/twg/ - Total War General

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First for goblin genocide.

That's a shitty op image.

>first time dealing with a rebellion
>shitty rebel force gets utterly crushed in a decisive battle
>figure I'll leave them alone to fuck off while I go deal with an orc invasion to the south
>army goes from nothing to a full stack in that time and lays siege
Jesus fucking christ I'll build that tavern next time

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My enemies are many, my equals are none

In the shade of living trees they said Athel Loren could never be conquered

In the land of vampires and necromancers, they said Sylvania could never be humbled

In the realm of chaos and snow, they said Norsca could never be tamed

Now they say nothing, they fear me, like a force of nature, a dealer in chivalry and death

I say, I am Louen Leoncoeur! I am King of Brettonia!

Get your fucking anime waifu's out of Total War.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

Elfs > Humans

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What is the best unit in the Brettonian roster and why is it the Blessed Trebuchet?

>>170213207
Trees > Elfs > Humans >>>>>>>>>>> Manlets

>>170212787

Yeah, but going back to Carcasonne every time I had a lord busy defending my borders was annoying as shit.

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>>170213195
Imagine being the captured maid slave (male) to a dark elf who, after being an evil raiding/pillaging/torturing monster all day, likes to come home and be extremely lovey dovey and gentle with you in secret

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>>170213207

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wew

>>170213351

was Manfred a dorf all along ?

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>>170213410
>this will never happen

>>170213351
Can't argue with that, manlets are the worst

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>probably gonna be another year before I get to play as tomb kangz or lizard memes
>another 2-3 years before even learning about the historical total war
>it probably won't be Victoria total war

why do I even live anymore

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update

diplomatic relations restored with the Kingdom of Macedonia after 39 years of war

alliance announced with the Kingdom of Bactria

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My emperor couldn't possibly be this cute!

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Rock the boat!

Whats life for the hummies that live in Sylvania? And for that matter what if carstein actually won and conquered the empire? Eternal night? Wouldnt everyone die of starvation? I dont think the vamps want to just rule skellies all day. Do they?

>>170213776
Could you get skeleton slaves?

>>170213776
Vlad's a bro, others not so much.

>>170213762
>>170213072
Burn it!

TO MARIENBURG
34 MILES

>>170213776
They want to have an upper class of nobility made up of vampires running the empire, skelies is just something they do for war because they can.

>>170213776
Probably like the Van Helsing movie. Little dreary hamlets of withered croplands and pessimistic, fearful people who on a regular but not above replacement rate interval, get predated on by the local count.

Wait did the Warhammer fantasy world really got destroyed by chaos? I knew end times where near but I tought the action was still going, instead chaos genocided the whole world. That is really disturbing, details about it? Someone survived?

>>170213286
Blessed Trebuchet is shit because Bretonnian infantry is shit
Arty is only as good as your ability to defend it

>>170212747

what a dreadful fucking OP image

why did we get saddled with this partricular retard, /twg/...

>>170213776

think Bretonnian peasants, only that your liege lord can come by and feed on/kill your family just because (s)he's bored

>>170213776
>Whats life for the hummies that live in Sylvania?
No bandits, no rapegoats, no uppity elector cunts. Just some ghouls and cute Vampires that want to drain you.

>>170214005
Sylvania was already spoopy before vlad showed up, I think they would run things much as they are now but with the nobles being immortal.

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>Belegay Nohammer in charge of reclaiming his ancestral hold

>>170212982
Seconded, there was a time when this general was about WAR and not anime pussy.

>>170214167
You can't even open the diplomacy screen with them as Belegar.
For fuck's sake, CA.

>>170213729
I appreciate you.

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r8 my magic resistance

>>170214054
Humble bundle brought in the weeaboo faggots

>>170214005
>>170213932
>>170213776
many vampire counts treat their human population fairly well, often better than peasants in Bretonnia
it's just that oppression is the norm and outright despotic vampire nobles are in equal numbers to the relatively fair ones

>>170214397
135/100

>>170213776
Sylvania has really bad soil and more tombs than villages; very sparsely populated in general. There's a ton of dangers lurking in the woods, since the place is naturally saturated with dark magic (even before Vlad moved in) the undead can just kinda get raised at random. That's not to mention feral versions of all the VC's monsters and possibly a lot more unnamed ones.

You are very strongly encouraged to stay in your own villages, which does lead to some inbreeding, but there are still plenty of normal-looking ones considering the Von Carsteins are noted to be inclined sire an attractive servant as a vampire instead of someone they thought would be competent.

Vampires could absolutely not stand being the rulers of only mindless undead. The worst ones think of humans as less than dirt, but they need subjects.

>>170213592
Poor little enchantress too short for her portrait ha-ha-ha

>>170214397
13.5/10

>>170214449
That image is old as fuck by now you know

>>170214795
She just floats around.

It's kinda cute desu.

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>start game
>migrated to himyar
>take settlement
>convert to judaism
>migrate back to starting town
>begin
every time
who /judencaliphate/ here?

>>170213729
What mod are you playing ?
I'm on a EB2 (last version) campaign but it crashes more and more, it seems pretty unstable as a mod, i'm looking for an alternative for R1 or M2.

>>170215053
youre old as fuck by now

>>170215314
>juden
>not superior slavic religion, inheritors of the mystic terraforming secrets of the ancient hyperboreans

>>170215314
>>170215523
>not settling in libya to convert to cuthulu religion

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>>170215314
If it ain't Semitic Pagan, it ain't right.

>current emperor is son of a 0 loyalty sextus perennis
>civil war happens, sextus is emperor of defectores romanes occidentales
>true emperor and every other member descended from sextus vanishes from my family tree
>kill sextus and end the war
>emperor is gone from family tree forever

good game

>>170215471

RTR1.9
if your game is crashing try making a new save, moving diplomat/spys around then saving or clearing building queues that usually does it for me

>one of the fay enchantress's lines in battle is "hear me lileath"

what did she mean by this?

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>he plays campaigns exclusively
>he doesn't play 1v1's like the game is meant to be played

I bet you guys play softcore in arpgs and only PvE in mmos

its like you guys want to be made fun of

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>>170216110
Morgiana is a literal Elf so of course she worships the elven pantheon, that's not even a secret, and the Grail Faith is not a monotheistic religion, the Lady of the Lake is only the highest deity for Bretonnian Nobility, the regular human pantheon is still in place.

But then again TWWH is building on 8th Ed and End Times Canon, where the Lady and Lileath are the same thing.

So whats the best starting move as Louen? Recruit up a bunch more peasants and then beeline for Marienburg before they grow too big?

I waited a few turns and they recruited at a staggering rate on very hard.

>>170214485
>>170214625
>being a Sylvanian peasant
>have to till your fields on tainted earth
>constant fear that rabid monsters will attack your village
>of your 8 children 2 starved, 1 died of magical poisoning 2 were eaten by the local Baroness and one of your luckier sons got the blood kiss and now treats you like trash
>last year your second child's corpse rose from its grave via ambient magic and you had to pay a fine to the local necromancer for destroying the body to save your (remaining) families lives instead of waiting for him to come bind it
>recently there's been an unearthly wailing keeping you awake at night, the local necromancer has told the townspeople to lock their houses and mind their own damn business besides
>you're only 48 but you already have the frail impotent body of a 70 year old (and you still have to work, naturally)
>but at least you're not a Bretonnian peasant

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>>170216428
b8

>>170216487
1. Praise Ze Lady

>>170216110
Why do people even care that she's an elven god anyway, gods are gods, doesn't matter if they take the form or a pointy or round-eared mortal.
She cares about Bretonnia more than any of the elven factions anyway.

>>170214397
1.35/10

>>170215983
>RTR1.9
Thanks, I'll try the save thing. Not right now, I just crashed after a large battle vs Carthage so pretty pissed.

>>170216487
I had the most success going for the orcs straight off, when the event pops they're going to bring their army against you, and then going after burger town. Don't bother taking the village attached to it, it's raid bait.

>>170216674
because the wood elves frequently go on wild murderous blood-orgy rampages through the lands of brettonia in the form of the wild hunt, and they also frequently kidnap children and murder people for even looking at their forest the wrong way. So I'd imagine the general populace would be pissed if they found out the lady was an elf godess who had been lying to them since she blessed the first ancient brettonians

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>>170213776
I imagine life in Sylvania is a lot like in the movie The Witch.

>>170214397
1 + 35/100

How to get rid of VC as Dwarfs? I can't raze their settlment and they won't vassalize because this game is fucked. I installed Conquer Anywhere thinking I'd be able to raze Sylvania but it's not working.

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>3 mods in and dwarfs are finally losing the badlands bowl

welp its time to teach the dwarves about chivalry and help them take back the realms

>>170216942

>talking about endtimes lore

DELET THIS

>>170214040
Yes, the world was destroyed.
Everyone with a name mysteriously survived so people would still buy miniatures of their favorite characters.
All the same races are back but with trademarkable names.
And now there are space marines for the 40k audience.

>>170217236
>talking about canon

FTFY :^)

>>170216942
The Wood Elves are hated/ignored by most of the other Elf factions, especially High Elves whom the Bretonnians have a good relationship with.

Think of them as American blacks. No one hates them more than African Blacks. Even an Elven Goddess decided "nah fuck this I'm out" and handed her boon to Gilles, so the general populace discovering she's an Elven God would just up Bretonnian spirits even more. Might even improve their relationship with High Elves.


What I'm saying is fuck the forest niggers

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Going all peasant might be harder than I thought

>>170217198
What mods?

I feel like I struck a good balance with unit mods on all other fronts, but there are no good ones for Greenskins and they still lose the Bowl 8/10 times.

No cheat mods like "+200% upkeep on Oak of Ages" shit, please

>In three campaigns as Bretonnia, Bordeleaux, and Carcassone I have never gotten Lyonesse to confederate with me
>which means I usually have to deal with a Mousillon rebellion every once in a while, or stick a Paladin there to increase order forever.
>Will confederate with Bretonnia for no reason when I play as other lords

>New Wood Elven AI means they NEVER leave the Forest
>They sit in the max garrison towns with stacks they can only afford because LOL AI Bonuses
>The Athel Loren maps are bugged and reinforcements ALWAYS spawn in behind the elves, and usually get swarmed
>retarded recruitment so stacks of 10+ Glade Guard or 15+ Wardancers, fighting them is tedious as fuck
>Can't autoresolve because Bretonnian units blow in Autoresolve
>Cannot leave lands for fear of Spy Satellite AI knowing exactly when its safe to move out and strike
>ALWAYS take attrition damage everytime you switch to normal stance
>In all but my Louen Leoncouer game my economy could BARELY sustain a full stack with decent units and a shitty defensive stack
>which meant I could never overwhelm them with numbers advantage because I could never field a third force.

Bretonnia blows. I think i'm just not cut out for them, I've never had this issue with ANY other faction excepting Skarsnik.

>>170217310
Lileath wasn't of much importance to the Elves, so she found someone who was in actual need of her powers.

High Elves would sooner follow Vaul or Asuryan, Woodies value Kurnous and Isha above her, and the Dark Elves go to Khaine for power.

>>170217424
>Faction is based around a mediocre anvil and a godlike hammer
>Bang two anvils together
>HUUURRRR dis ain't uorkin' so good

Ya think, lad?

Any good mods for the orcs?

I w

>>170217424
if you're gonna go all peasant at least bring some more trebuchets

>"Gold! Freely given-"
fuck off

>>170217576
there is no need to be upset, noble knight

>>170217668
early game, don't have the building yet

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>>170217450
one doubles orc units size

another buffs savage orcs in a few ways

the last allows orcs to settle anywhere but its only really helped skarsnik

i feel that all 3 are very lore friendly. orcs are an endless green tide and they dont really give a shit where they fight

>>170216942
>had been lying to them since she blessed the first ancient brettonians
She never pretended to be a human goddess, her followers just assume she is.

STTAAAAAAAA-
>critical failure

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So lately I've been raiding my own provinces just so rebels will spawn and I'll be able to level up my lords. Does this go against Sigmar's teachings?

>>170217768
which mods?

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>retreat distance is "as the crow flies", not travel distance

I got real sick of this shit chasing turks around the mountains of eastern anatolia back in M2, why is it still happening with vamps running a marathon around a river?

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>no webms
FUCK THIS SHIT

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>>170219456
>upward, vertical swing
>met with another sword
>decapitates

Question:

Would the empire campaign benefit from having research times halved?

I note than in every other campaign you can get most or all tech by around turn 140. Empire you're lucky to have half of the tree.

>>170219456
glade guard have cool melee animations

Proper Combat mod any good?

How do I erase those pesky vampires up the north as Bordeleaux?? They never leave their fucking city until they have 2 fucking stacks and I have no chance anymore because muh peasents

>>170219751
ambush stance

Rate my late game stack
Lord
Witchhunter
3 hand gunners
3 halbreds
3 GS
Cannon
Hellblaster
Rocket launcher
2 demis
2 demi breds
Steam tank.

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>when the sassanid empire is available for purchase

Is lore of life any good?

I find that grey wizards or light wizards are more useful.

Am I just not noticing the healing?

>>170219812
>Witchhunter

0/10, they are much better out in the field, and that army is much better served with a light wizard as its embedded hero

>>170219812
>late game
>not 19 steam tanks
pleb

>>170219751
>Playing as carcasonne
>Mousillon never leaves the entire game, stacking on their walled settlement
>Eventually run up to their doorstep and declare war
>They randomly bumrush bordeleaux and get killed without my help
>Take mousillon
okay then

>>170219751
>>170219809
I've had success baiting things out of cities with a small stack (Lord and a couple units) which raids for a turn or two and a big stack in ambush stance next to them.

>>170219960
Its really good
The healing isnt as noticeable when the fighters are unbalanced like Chosen vs Peasants, but its great for turning an even fight in your favor, and the buffs are great all around

>>170219845
The Persians get cucked again

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>>170219845
>When the greeks beg for the privilege of being your slaves

>>170219812
>Rocket battery
I hope you don't plan on hitting anything with it, never does enough damage before the lines engage

>4 demis
good spam

>3 units of melee state troops
pffft

>>170220014
I know they're just so much fun. I like them for character. Also accusing a giant then machine gunning it to death is worth it.

If I kept him but made space for a light wizard where would he go?

>>170220085
One day I will afford a full panzer (Franzer?) Division.

>>170220246
Remember if you go full Panzer you're going to be called a paedo

>>170220242
I find them weirdly effective for me against the AI. I tend to micro them a bit and they get a nice amount of kills. Even against chaos.

How would you do it then anon?

Why is vlad such a fucking king. The guy is the most charismatic fucker and yet he's a monster in battle. It's so fucking appealing.

>>170220339
I'm not sure I see the connection anon but I've been called worse.


Why are witchhunters considered pleb tier for battles?

>>170219751
just kill them on turn 2
what's your fucking problem it's only a bunch of zambies

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>>170220368

>tfw Vlad lost the sylvaniabowl and now Mannfred controls Altdorf in my Britonnia campaign

>>170220556
>what's your fucking problem it's only a bunch of zambies
I'm just new at the game and just auto resolve everything

>>170220171
well played, persian scum

>>170220364
I personally try to make the armies thematically correct so that I'm not playing WoC with different colors.

Lots of state troops (swords, halberds, spears, xbows, gunners), only 2-3 GS because they aren't meant to be everywhere

No more than 1 demi halberd and more use of reiksguard and other cav units

No more than 3 arty, no more than 4 missiles because you have to dedicate stuff to protect them.

So I have a lot more stacks on the map as a result and 2v2's are a norm

>>170220660
If you don't feel comfortable with battles then try a few custom matches. Start off with slightly one sided match ups (in your favor) and you'll get the basics quick.

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G O B L I N S

>>170220802
I'd gladly trade all my demis reiksguard or proper knights (and some outriders) but I find the AP is a bit too useful as a tin opener. It's also really nice having anti large cav.

Demis just never felt right in the empire roster but they're too damn useful.

>>170220246
>I kept him but made space for a light wizard where would he go?

remove one of the demis w/o halberds for him, and use his net to freeze enemies in place for the arty

>>170220470
>Why are witchhunters considered pleb tier for battles?

they are bad in melee, their missile attack is underwhelming and can miss (unlike the arrows of waywatchers/glade lords, which have a decent amount of self-guiding), and accusation has been nerfed into oblivion from where it was at release

>>170221225
Thats the problem with the first game in general. Few factions play as designed due to the lack of mechanics limiting special and rare units. So the core units who are supposed to comprise and show off the faction's identity are just roster filler.

If this continues into the next games certain factions will suffer from the same identity crisis and anything not ap will be useless as is right now.

>>170220660
what why
the battles are the best part

Threadly reminder that if your Franzer division isn't:

1 Franz on deathclaw
1 beast wizard on gryphon
6 greatswords
4 demigryph lancers
4 steam tanks
4 handgunners

then you are all fucked up.

>>170221343
>Witch hunter
That's such a shame. I loved playing as saltzpyre in Vermintide. I've definitely noticed he doesn't seem to do a huge amount but will plink lumps off enemy high tier stuff. Thus may be because it tend to keep him by the handgunners so they all fire together.

I'll stick in a light wizard as well though.

>>170221587
>franzer division
>not using jade wizard
>not 18 steam tanks

the fuck is wrong with you, you don't like healing tanks mid-battle?

So I'm playing a beastmen campaign and I'm trying to decide between Minotaurs with shields and Minotaurs with great weapons. I noticed the one with shields gets 10 extra armor. I take it that's a big deal? The shields have a higher upkeep than the great weapons by 38 favor. The great weapons are anti large though..

Is it just me or are saxon units just not very good? They just seem to break so easily and their cav is booty.

>>170221689
senpai you need more than one stack for the chaos/greenskin shitstorm, and if you can spam that many steam tanks and still manage 3 fronts the campaign is on mop-up stage already.

plus, you never really need more than 3 steam tanks to absolutely rape 90% of the stacks you face.

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>>170221571
I don't like the taste of defeat

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>Gobbo Archers

>>170221694
Armor is a big deal for beastmen but the shields are the big deal, minotaurs are tall enough to be shot at even in the thick of combat.

Great weapons are never a bad choice though.

>>170221895
cute pup :3c

>>170221694
Take shields for missile resistance.

>>170221548
I concur.

I'd really like my empire armies to feel more like they should. It seems like around tier V they just go mental. Steel faith helps a bit but I'd really like to have an excuse to still use flagellants in the late game for example. I'd be even happier if reiksguard were a tier IV unit with armour piercing or something so I could stop using demis. Then another order might be anti large. It'd feel more empirey than
>suddenly half animals everywhere

Also has anyone else noticed that the empire economy runs almost entirely (via tailors) on the production and sale of floppy hats? I think that's wonderful that every settlement. Even a tiny village has a factory churning out floppy hats by the metric ton.

I saw a vision of Gilles le Breton. He told me you were a faggot.

>>170221685
yeah its unfortunate that they really have no use on the battlefield compared to on the campaign map, where they are far more useful. When the game was first released they were a must-bring for the empire because of how much damage accusation did vs enemy heroes, then CA nerfed it along with spirit leech but unlike spirit leech it hasn't gotten much attention since then. Its a shame because the other missile heroes (master engineer/waystalker) both have a use in armies either thanks to their buffs or their own killing potential.

>>170221694
it depends on who you are fighting. Any faction that tends to brings lots of missiles needs minos w/ shields, cav/monster heavy factions minos w/ gw. Typically for me this means

Minos w/ shields
>elves
>dwarfs
>empire

Minos w/ GW
>vamps
>chaos
>brettonia

>>170221765
>grand campaign

Good javelins + defensive shield infantry, and their cav is better than it should be.

>AoC

javelins are your friend here, only use the scout/saxon cav for trying to gen snipe/helping your spears w/ cav and chasing enemy skirmishers. Don't ever leave shieldwall formation

>>170222202
A knight shoved me in the mud this morning. I'm not worthy!

>>170222245
I wish I could just change the equipment of my units instead of having to disband and train another one.

>>170222245
I get the feeling the whole empire needs a buff and polish.
It feels very much like the first faction that got worked on and now with all the experience and bells and whistles of the others it needs to be made great again.

>>170222258
I raised the dead the other day and a zombie slapped my ass. Is Nagash trying to tell me something?

So i got the carpenter as Bretonnia, and i got armoury and royal stables too but can't make pegasus knights or trebuchet, am i missing something?

>>170222453
I'd like this as well. Also if armies had hero slots rather than them taking up space for line infantry.

>>170222492
Brettonia definitely made it obvious how lacking the Empire as a faction is compared to some of the others

>>170222167
Considering Brets got everything with a lance anti-large and didn't bother helping out Empire or Chaos with it. Considering Reiksguard and Chaos Knights don't perform well for their cost it not like giving them some love would break the game. Of course those factions of other large anti large but again it would help out those parts of the roster, Regular DrOgres aint that great a cav answer anyway

>>170222632
Bretonnia was just given too many tools

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what does living saints modifier give?

>>170222909
immunity to fatigue

>>170222632
>>170222739
What gets me is they are (objectively, without bias or undue influence) clearly the best faction that isn't lizard men. It feels sad that they need a tidy. I'm rather hoping that an old friend DLC (if Boris) comes with a big rebalance for Empire and some new stuff.

It'd also be nice if there was a way to boost growth in a meaningful way as empire (I know that priest + edict + tech helps) but by the time I usually get middenheim for example the idea of building the big temple there or the blazing sun chapterhouse in talabheim before I've painted the map red seems impossible.

>>170221981
>>170222083
>>170222245
Good info ty

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Anyone else do this?

>start a campaign
>going fine
>get bogged down in war with undead
>get raped by wood elves
>lose by turn 80

How do I git gud as Bretonnia?

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>>170222167
>mass steam tanks
>"man i wish this faction was more lore friendly"

I dont know how you even managed to turn your computer on.

>>170223197
>objectively, without bias or undue influence

That's not how that word works, but I do agree that the face of Warhammer Fantasy should be getting more focus than it has been receiving. Though, personally I think the Empire's biggest flaws in the game are more campaign than battle focused. I'm not familiar with all the lore, but I'm pretty sure someone called Elector-Count gets to vote on things, etc. Would be nice to see the Empire the focus of an expansion on the game's political system to better distinguish the Empire from other factions like the Brets.

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tfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxXlOxroFiQ

>>170223528
nah feels cheap and exploitative. I never use pikes in attila anyway

>>170223531
>farm orcs
>get ridiculous traits on your starting lord
>???
>profit

>>170223561
I wasn't the anon advocating for the Franzer division. I do find the idea amusing as it is impractical - and lore wise, impossible.

>>170216487
move to marienburg border, recruit 4 archers, next turn take marienburg with the legendoftotalwar cheese strat, kill orcs next turn, move on gorsel after that

>>170223605
Warhams 1 was a proof of concept that got more ambitious as the success gave them credibility and resources. Thats why the subsequent factions got better. Look at the progress from WoC --> Beastmen --> WElfs --> Brets, from incomplete rosters and campaign messes to full kits (in Brets case a little more than full and too much) and good campaign mechanics.

But Warhams 2 has to improve on a lot given the "largely expanded scope of the series".

>>170223605
>that isn't lizardmen
I think he was making a joke anon.

As interesting as the idea of the elector counts having a political say in the campaign I thought and I'm sure /tg/ will correct me, that they only elected the emperor?

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>>170223528
Witness me

>>170223528
Yes. If I know I'm facing a charge I mix spears slightly in front of my swords so that the spears can brace and impale horses, and swords can cut apart anything bogged in.

>Karl Franz slaughters several hundred orcs
>trait gained - likes orcs

wat?

>>170223646
>cheap and exploitative
Well shit if it comes down to being cheap and exploitative or winning then I'm gonna choose winning.

>>170224059
it's like saying I like skirmishers since it's real easy to run them down and even easier to kill

>>170221689
>jade wizard
lol, never thought of bringing an enginseer

>>170223871
True. I'm fairly confident in CA now. They lost a lot of trust with Rome 2, but Warhammer has been a damn good success story so far. I hope they keep the momentum.

>>170223931
>joke

Sorry, the general 4chan retardation has killed my sense of humor.

I would assume the electors at least get some say. Maybe not official power, but the guys who get to pick the next emperor surely have a lot of power themselves in any backroom dealings at least.

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may the lady forgive me for asking this but...could the brets understand and approve of how the vampire counts hold themselves to such noble standards and put filth peasants in their place?

assuming we are talking about the counts and not the red duke who just makes a mockery of her ladies land with his evil

>>170224205
Then why does it come with a leadership penalty when fighting them? Surely it'd make more sense for a leadership increase?

>>170224419
no

>>170224421
that's my logic, take it up with CA if you want their logic

>>170224351
>Rome 2
Ya thats the reason the first iteration was so conservative I think. After the unimaginable debacle of R2 and the luke-warm at beast reception of Attila this was make or break time for CA. While there are other projects of course this one really needed to turn out well. But it did way better than expected.

>>170213072
>start installing Nappy again

sigh

>>170213709
total war is dead

>>170224351
I find this site quite good for shit like this
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Elector_Count

So the emperor is meant to be in charge of the elector counts who are in charge of their regions. Sort of.

I also still can't believe they blew up this setting for World of Warcraft the Tabletop Game.

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ROLLAN

>>170222909
thx

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>Durthu declared war on Empire
>Karl goes to raid Durthu's shit
>Durthu too much of a bitch to do anything about Athel Loren getting raided

>Durthu confederates with Wood Elves like a pussy
>now he's back with some Elf Faglord backing him up
>swing around south through Carcassone and loot King's Glade, which has only its garrison to defend it
>got enough money to build Level 2 Wizard College
>a pair of Brayherds followed Karl into the forest and are not raiding it

LaughingKarlFranz.jpg

Good thing you don't need to kill the warherd to finish bret campaign cause I'm 150 turns in and I have no idea where those fucks are.

>>170225838
Beastmen hoards tend to wander endlessly.

I want to have sex with the fay enchantress

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>Vampire Counts' last stand

I would pay actual money for a squig DLC
>bomb squigs
>gnasher squigs
>giant squigs
>mangler squigs
>the colossal squig
Is there a possible squig based gobbo faction?

>Take over Marienburg right away with SUPERIOR TACTICS
>Quickly beat up the Greenskins to remove that retarded -20 order penalty
>move onto Gorssel and wipe Marieniggers out
>depending on the situation:
>Head to Mousillon and beat up the Red Duke
>Clear out Skarsnik
>Get the attrition research and bully Norsca

How is that for a early Bretonnia plan? I know I can take Marienburg early on so thats not an issue.

Also what the shit happened to Karl Franz, the Vampire Counts, and Wood Elves? The Empire gets completely fucked now, Franz doesn't even take Reikland for several turns. The Vampire Counts and Vlad just take turns resettling and razing towns with the Elector Counts, and the Wood Elves NEVER leave Athel Loren, I thought they go on rampages and shit giving you an opportunity to at least fight them off incredibly disadvantageous home turf.

>>170226409
>Bomb squigs

That would be so obnoxious as a unit. It would work much better as an ability on a hero/lord

When is the 2nd game coming out?

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>>170226747

>How is that for a early Bretonnia plan? I know I can take Marienburg early on so thats not an issue.

solid plan. you'll need to take marienburg within 2-3 turns of starting or else the burgers will have enough men to start fucking with you.

once marienburg is captured the rest of the game is easy as you'll have the money to do shit.

also get the shit that makes brettonia into an industry because it gives more cash and makes your economy no longer rely on peasant shits.

and lastly confederate with bordelaux and send alberic to marienburg with the traits that gives you 200% income from ports.

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We pushed hard into the north but I think our adventure is at its end.

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Hey laddos, so today I'm doing up the vampire counts regiments of renown (still wip) and I've come across an old problem.

specifically I want lets say mount A to go to mousillon and mount b armour to go to vampire counts.

pic related is what I got, just asking if anyones managed to reskin a faction of the empires horses without changing the rest for example.

>>170227074
Anywhere from this summer to next year by most estimates.

>>170227083
>using industry
>not forcing peasants to work the fields

Next you'll say we should give them rights or something.

>>170227103
it would be cool if non legendary lords didnt always die after getting their army wiped out so you could go on far flung crusades. You could just disband the army I guess.

>>170227181

funnily enough I tended to just use suicidal waves of peasants with knights watching.

It was pretty funny watching them getting gunned down by dwarves. like D-day but replace competent soldiers with retards.

>>170227181
maybe their busy standing around on the battle field? there is on downside to massing peasants if you have no farms right?

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I HURT MYSELF

TODAY

>>170226409
You forgot
>Dismounted Squigs (Great Weapons)

>>170227460
Either come back with experience and riches or don't come back at all.

Although I didn't retreat and after she lost Ek didn't run her down so she gets to run back to an outpost and try again in a few turn.

>>170227679
>-356 chivalry
>2 green knight summons

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>>170227679
Not through honor and chivalrous decisions will the great questions of the day be decided - but by iron and blood

-Fay Enchantress

>>170228116
What does "Villain" do?

>>170228116
>>170227679
CA must be shitting themselves, you've played bretonnians in a way they didn't want despite the penalties. But hey, at least you're not procrastinating(-10).

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>>170228371

>>170226747

In my experience the empire does significantly better on average than it used to, but if the vampires get the ball rolling they'll still fall apart.

>>170228116
>>170228510

how the fuck do you have two green knight summons?

>2 full stacks of warherds of chaos
>1 stack with 7 Minotaur with shields.
>they snuck past the front line and found my army full of waywatchers making its way forward for chaos hunting duty.

Well here goes a lot of money.

Why does it feel so satisfying to kill stunties, /twg/?

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I went on a trip

Would you like to see this game limit the amount of special and rare units you can field like tabletop does?

>>170228779
green tide event + conquering estalia got me all the way to whatever the level of chivalry that gets you your second summon, and then it went down from there as I united the Brettonian peoples under one flag

>>170229057
no

>>170229057
absolutely, makes non-ap viable as well as help give every faction its identity

>>170229057
Yes.

>>170229057
as an option, maybe? picked at the start of campaign. I'd use it but some people like stacking cash and blowing it all on steam tanks.

>>170229057
How do the TableTop rules work desu ka? :-3

>>170229057
As an option, I'd love it.

>>170229057
Itd be nice if it were an option.

>>170229489
>>170229612
ugh you optionfags disgust me
you'll never stop until you have an option for everything!

They're going to do naval shit in the first warhams expansion arent they, High and dark elves have speciality water based shit and the whole thing with all the bretonnian stuff being related to the coast and bordeleaux having a special port.

Plus the whole "bonus damage whilst attacking at sea" thing on alberic.

Ok guys I'll pass it along, thanks

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>>170229057
it does in multiplayer already by capping lord choices per army for example anon, however singleplayer is free grounds.


Anyway I still can't figure out how to assign subfactions to horses/steeds BUT I did overhaul how the sternsmen/vereks reavers look for non mousillon vc factions.Fallen knights of the blazing sun seems to look quite nice after buggering around to make them look spooky.

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>>170229401
pretty simple

Core --> everyday shit invariably common throughout the faction

Special --> elite-tier stuff, cavs, monsterous infantry, mundane war-machines, etc

Rare --> odd sights to see, extravagant war machines, things the faction cannot produce on a large scale

You can look at any faction and guess pretty well whats what aside from a few things (like miners are special since they are needed far more in industry than warfare, but also not as shitty as they are in game)

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>>170229672
I wish I had an option for you to be nice to me

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>level 4 hero takes out my lvl 8 hero

>>170229759
We have no idea, they keep saying they won't but it seems like something they really need to have in some form or another and the things you mentioned make it seem like they plan on adding it.

>>170229985

I kinda really don't want it to happen but it seems almost inevitable. The hints they're dropping with the bret patch are real, plus the whole skaven stuff going on in the background as hints for their arrival.

>>170229789
I didn't realise that particular winged helmet clipped so horridly. god dammit
back to the drawing board

you guys think they're gonna do a meaningful sale on the dlc's for tww anytime soon?

>>170229759
There are ship models in the game, vamps have a "blood ship" and some of the traits have mentions of only being for LAND units. They definately wanted to have something similar to the shitfeast that was rome 2 naval battles.

>>170230234
Funny joke, anon.

>>170230234
Maybe when the expansion will be out. I wait for it too, I want to buy Chaos

>>170229057

it'd be nice since the late game basically involves spamming 2-3 stacks of top tier units and auto-resolving to victory.

would be nice if the AI followed it as well and made better armies.

>>170230061
>>170230234

They said Bretonnia was the plast "major" piece of DLC for the Old World Edition. Wouldn't expect anything more than a Lord-pack with alternate starts.

>>170230459

I'm not expecting anything more than that, /for now/ I expect water based shit to hit with an expansion, it's been mention here before that they have plans on combining maps together.

>>170213776
Depends on which Vampire Count is in charge. Some, like Vlad, were renowned as fair and just rulers who enforced a rule of law and made life in an otherwise cursed and miserable province downright tolerable. Sure, he'd eat someone every once and a while but he's better than the von Draks. Others, like Konrad, are lunatic psychopaths who slaughter people for kicks and giggles - which represents very little change from their old, non-vampiric overlords. Most of the Vampire Counts are somewhere in between those two extremes.

So, on the whole, worse off than a normal Empire peasant but better than a Brettonian peasant.

>>170230381
if you mean the next tww game, I might as well just buckle up and buy the must haves then

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Fuccboi btfo

>>170229832
savage as fuck, how will he ever recover

>>170230664
the must haves are blood, and nothing else anon. just buy whatever factions appeal to you's dlc

>>170230730
I just got em before I realized that I should ask the general on the likelihood of a sale worth more than 3 bars of chocolate

>still
>no
>steel
>FAITH
>OVERHAUL

REEEEEEEEE

>>170230681
>close victory
>you annihilated his strongest troops while he just managed to damage your fodder soldiers
of course

anyway do "close victory", "phyrric", "total", etc. affect the game in some way or are just esthetic?

>>170230604
I really don't see them implementing a TW Empire style system with controlling continents. Just a bit too clunky.

Some faction should have a way to cheat it (Lizards and WElfs, Slann and Worldroots), some factions should exploit it (Elves).

I really don't care if there is naval combat but that's just me, TW and Warhams were both founded on land battles. And I would like to see mroe go into land battles, army/character customization, Avatar MP, and everything else before water based stuff. Maybe amphibious assaults so Norscans can raid villages via waterways. Also map expansion to raid more shit.

>>170231087
they give differing xp to commanding generals and have chivalry effects for brets, possibly affect grave sites for vamps

>>170217513
>In all but my Louen Leoncouer game my economy could BARELY sustain a full stack with decent units and a shitty defensive stack

>Tfw in my Bordeleaux campaign I made 10k a turn

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I've never seen this before.

I'm really enjoying total warhammer so far, it's my first total war game and I was wondering if I should try out any of the previous total war games.

Are any of them comparable in unit variety and faction variation? I really like how different all of the different races play.

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>>170227679

Anyone got that full world map which shows Ulthuan and the like?

Anyone got the updated TW:W rolling chart with Bretonnia factions added? I'd appreciate it.

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>went to fuck norsca up as a goatman Khazrak
>some fag from Kislev demands tribute from me every turn
Dmitry you are fucking next.

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>>170233014
You know, maybe we should work with the Empire and Kislev and fight the Chaos Gods. The Chaos Gods are uncloven as well.

I am definitely not a human, by the way.

>>170225101
>>170232974

Come on Gelt, Ungrim, or Mannfred

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>Dawi got pushed to the brink by Greenskins and Bloody Hand
>Come in from behind and nab a few settlements for a beachhead and then raise the rest so the Dawi can reclaim their lands
>Dawi drag their feet, never resettle anything and dick around with 1 Greenskin settlement for 20 turns
>Forgot about these fuck faces.

Sorry Dawi you are on your own this time.

>>170233120
No we simply must to get rid of competitors.

I hate that there's no way for units to attack in a line.

I know that if you group them up they charge together but they always end breaking up and following some other unit.

>>170225101
Lets see!

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wtf is this bullshit

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>>170225101

>>170233778
ehh anon are you locking the groups before charging? that essentially does make them charge in lines.

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>>170217424
Wiped out the chaos invasion w/ only peasants

>all lords were prophetesses
>no paladins used at all
>only cav units were yeomen

now I have to scrounge up enough chivalry to get the errantry war and finish the campaign. Does anyone know if there are special un-chivalrous traits for wiping out the empire/dwarfs?

I FUCKING HATE CHARIOTS

So why is life in Brettonia so bad for the peasantry? Is it just medieval serfdom on crack?

>>170234695
Inbreeding, always starving, have 0 rights, expected to give up everything if a knight demands it.

>>170234175
>don't have beastmen dlc

fug :DDD

Are the peepoo men worth picking up? I enjoyed the horde gameplay of chaos warriors, even though their dlc was pretty half-baked.

>>170234695
Because grimdork. Obviously a society cannot function if 99% of the country is perpetually starving, inbreeding, dying from plague and paying 9/10 of their income as taxes, but warhammer was never concerned with such paltry matters.

>>170234680
I wouldn't even mind them so much if it weren't for the fact that there is no way for the player to even be as close to as good as the ai when it comes to using them

>>170234809
>Are the peepoo men worth picking up? I enjoyed the horde gameplay of chaos warriors

beastmen campaign gameplay is pretty much a better version of chaos, and minos/gorebulls are some of the most fun units in the game to use in battle

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new main faction vampire counts versions of regiments of renown now added

get them while they are hot.

>>170213410
The dream.

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>>170234921
Cheers, I think I'll give them a shot.

>play Orcs
>absolute majority of their regiments of renown are filthy fucking gobbos
Disgusting, utterly disgusting.

>>170234961
>KotBS helmets on undead units

BY MYRMIDIA, NO!

>>170235207
>he doesn't like the teef robbas, deff creepers, or mangy marauders

>>170235207
a scheme worthy of skarsnik

>The dwarves own everything in the badlands except Karak 8 Peaks
>I'm stuck fighting the elves

Will they actually take it or are they saving it to be nice?

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>>170234961
I almost forgot
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=699310314

>>170235257
It's far too late for them now anon, they shouldn't have went into sylvania

Crooked Moon campaign. Skarsnik get's a Bad Moon Banner that's pretty dope. What's the best unit to throw it on?

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Her feet are going to be absolutely filthy if she survives this

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I want to fuck the Lady

>>170235729
Would you help her clean them up?

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steel faith was promised
here I lie, lost and bereft
vanilla is shit

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I'm about to play Welves for the first time, what are some tips for them in the GC? Do I bully bretonnians, smelly dwarfs, or smelly italian wanna be scum?

>>170235803
no, but I'm sure there are plenty of anons that would

>>170235949
>italians
who are you referring to?

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>>170236135
Tilea, border princes, etc.

Which Warhammer faction uses pikes?

>>170235949
You don't really need anything but Durthu and a posse of Treekin. They smash apart pretty much anything you'll face with barely any losses. Shit got boring fast for me.

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There's something extremely satisfying about waiting for your Trebuchet bombardment to finish so you can frontally charge hundreds of Knights into fucking shits

Fuck hammer and anvil, its hammer and hammer

>>170236463
tilea/border princes

though empire has a few pike regiments.

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>>170235729
Rejoice! For a peasant of Brettonia provides your ranged fire support!

Questing knights or Grail Companions?
Questing knights have loads of AP damage and more melee attack/defence.
Grail Companions are fatter overall and are immune to fatigue.

>>170236528
So it's not worth it to play Orion?

>>170236786
Orion's fine. He's got some good tools and he's surprisingly hard to kill
He's just not as cool or as tough as tree hitler

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>that fag in the last thread making up the next expansion rumours

s-stop it

>>170236834

>not as cool

He's infinately more cool, he's basically an avatar of kurnous. Plus durthu looks like a tree clown.

>>170236972
>avatar of kurnous
A fucking ungor.

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threadly reminder that tomb kings right now

>>170237016

ur a fukkin ugnor m8

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Hmm...

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>>170237228

and we know how she's taming them don't we anon.

>>170225101
gib

Rollan

>>170225101
Give.

>mfw I just confederated Carcassone after they're down to 0 settlements and got the Fay Enchantress with a shitton of items after I left them spending the entire game fighting against beastmen and elves and shit

Just got Rome II and almost all DLC's, what are some general tips and tricks for campaigns?
My experience is just some casual play of Shogun 2.
Also, what is the speculated next historical total war?

>>170238139
Hammer and anvil everything.

>Also, what is the speculated next historical total war?
In the next 6 years, probably China.

>be a colossal retard
>fuck up taking Grunburg in the beginning
>have to postpone secessionist slaughter to deal with raiding beastmen, which prompts remaining secessionists to raid
>secessionists cleared out just in time for a rebellion
>rebels killed just in time for orcs to appear out of nowhere and raze Helmgart to the fucking ground before fucking off into the ether again
>Helmgart being resettled just as vampire counts declare war on me and start moving assets across Averheim
Is it possible to salvage this

How do we fix magic?

>>170238401
Make caster LL's magic stronger than 'standard' magic

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>>170225101
Please

>>170238401
let the fey enchantress suck beastdick

>>170238698
>let
*force

>>170238851
>implying you would have to force her

>>170238942
that's a good point

>>170223646
>nah feels cheap and exploitative
Having a spear-wall against cavalry rushes is... cheap and exploitive? You serious? Thats exactly how it was done back in the day though. Stop the charge with spears, and cut them down from their horses (or pull, if they were clad in too heavy armour).
If anything, it is how you best work against cavalry, and that you can emulate such tactics in a game, is quite great.

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>>170239015
>phasing pikes through the bodies of your own troops, allowing the pikes to kill the enemy without the enemy being able to engage the actual pikeman unit

Ah yes the ethereal companions of alexander the great, who let the macedonian phalanx shove their sarissas through their body, making it so that any enemy that tried to engage with them was pierced by the pike magically appearing from their chest

idiot

So is it just Warhammer that archers no longer get a range boost on hills or what?

Can someone give me a list? I know damn well they do in Rome and Medieval 2.
Please don't tell me that in every warscape game that there's no longer range bonuses.

>>170239296
>Please don't tell me that in every warscape game that there's no longer range bonuses.

anon...

>>170238229
Just keep fighting, for me vlad dicked stirling and I was able to confederate them on turn 10, now im just sitting pretty wondering if marienburg or the vamps are gonna hit me first since I can't fund a second army to hold both ends

>>170225101

SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS

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>>170236689
I FUCKING HATE VAMPIRES

I feel like my grail pilgrims are really underperforming, especially considering they are supposed to be sword/flagellant hybrids. With the fay enchantress's buffs to them they should be doing better imo

>>170239296
>Please don't tell me that in every warscape game that there's no longer range bonuses.

oh you poor soul

I just crushed Vladdy with Mannfred and destroyed his faction. Is there any way to get him as a lord now?

>>170239545
Nigga where are your knights

>>170239751
>>170234293
>>170217424

>>170239791
Ok fine

Cavalry charges aren't as effective vs undead compared to other factions anyway

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>>170239707
>I just crushed Vladdy with Mannfred and destroyed his faction
Stop making up lies again, Mannfred.

>>170239707
No, your vampire dad will never love you.

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>Start bretonnia game
>Just spending my turns auto resolving against greenskin stacks since you can get an early game, large XP boost against them
>Louen gaining sick nasty gains from levels and traits

Is this what i'm suppose to be doing?

>>170239987
yes, its kinda lame t b h

although since you are playing louen you probably should have focused on taking marienburg asap for that sweet port income

>>170239987

Yes.

Then stack Chivalry up so you can summon Ramirez, then take Marienburg.

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>Playing Bretonnia
>Mess up diplomacy big time, by turn 60 no one wants to confederate with me
>Whatever, Marienburg gives me all the money i could want so Louen is on vacation slaughtering norsemen
>The next turn, Lyonesse finally wants to confederate
>This makes me stronger enough that Bastonne accepts confederation too
>Then Pavarrone, then Bordeleux, then Artois, then Carcassone
I think i won't even confederate Artois because they invaded a bunch of minor empire settlements and i don't want to fuck up my borders.

>>170239987
>>170240031
>>170240413
>not taking Marienburg turn 2, and killing the orc neighbors turn 3, Grossel turn 6, and Moussillon before turn 10