Pocket Lotus Edition
>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn (embed) (embed)
>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK (embed) (embed)
>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr
>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki
>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0
>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609
>Friends list sign up Doc:
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>War of Factions:
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>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/
>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
Previous thread: >>170037784
All memeing aside, do you guys think the game will survive? I love the game, but it's slowly being destroyed by shit like revenge gear, shitty connections, and players nonstop quitting unpenalized because of said shitty connections.
I definitely think it's a really bad sign that they removed the player count in the last update, and I want the game to live.
Reminder that having a main outside of Lawbringer or Raider is prohibited here
third for stop bullying soldiers
>>170060519
I think like any ubisoft games its going to have problems, but the team behind for honor genuinely seem dedicated to making the game better through player feedback. I think they have learned a lot through the success of R6S.
>>170060519
It just came out, they already said that they will nerf revenge gear. They say revenge is a necessary mechanic but it being spammed every 2 seconds and easily triggered in 1v1 situations is not what they intended.
They are aware of quitters and want to look into it but I'm not sure they will actually do shit about it.
>completely new to the game
>puts me up against people 50x my xp
is the game dead or mming just shit
>>170060519
>revenge gear
being looked into
>quitters
being looked into
>connection
fuck off if you want dedicated servers
>>170060601
True, but it seems like they were braindead to implement shit like revenge gear in the first place. How did no one on the dev team think this would be a problem?
Did they even playtest revenge gear builds when they made it?
>>170060638
mming is nonexistent. Enjoy your stay.
>>170060519
> you guys think the game will survive?
Interview said they were aware of these issues and would fix them. so that defiantly not a yes on the game surviving but it's not a no either. I guess we can only wait and see. I think the game will survive personally however.
>>170060534
What about Kensei, Beserker and Shugoki? I thought /fhg/ was OK with people maining these?
>>170060640
I don't want dedicated servers, I just want the game to be fucking stable. I'm sick of peoples shitty connections dragging the game down, and for the game to suddenly lag up and when it's done I've taken a heavy hit I had literally no chance of blocking
>>170060519
I think it will. Majority of playerbase will leave pretty soon though. For Honor was always going to be a niche game, normies wont last more than a month.
Anyone else unable to play the game outside of story mode? For some reason, the game just won't connect to the servers or something and I can't play. It just gets stuck in infinite matchmaking. It won't even get past the loading screen for a custom match offline. The world map updates the territories, I can see how many friends are online playing the game and I can't switch out my gear all fine, but actually playing the game gets me fuckall.
What the fuck? I've tried verifying the files and everything was successful, no errors found.
>>170060685
Do you mainly play 1v1 or 4v4 modes? I've noticed the problems in 4v4 but hardly anything in 1v1.
>only 8k until I can buy the flower power weeb squad bundle
Feels good. Dang what do I spend my hard earned steel on next? The new champs are months away. I don't play enough KANGZ to buy the thor bundle. The fire wings are cringe. What do?
>>170060712
what system are you playing it on? PC since you verified the files?
>>170060558
We need to add captains in dominion. Having soldiers only on one point is retarded.
>>170060742
Yeah, on PC. I've played since the closed beta without this sort of issue ever happening. I left the game for like 2 days or so since I was pretty burnt out, then this shit happens.
Requesting a drawfag version of Lewdkeeper consoling a Lawbringer who gave up on life.
>>170060676
>fighting kenseis on my skill level
>they all play like orochis, going for sidedash attacks and top lights
>>170060718
I mix it up. I've experienced it in all modes, but the worst situation by far was in 2v2
>Last round is a tie breaker, nearly kill the warden I got paired with, but my friend died and the Orochi ran over to fight double team
>Warden is one hit from dead, I can still do this
>Warden backs up to regen health
>All of a sudden lag and the game is syncing
>When the game starts again the Warden is mid heavy hitting me and I get killed
I quit immediately, that was bullshit to the point to where I wouldn't be surprised if they were lag switching
>>170060686
Yeah I figure a lot of people will leave and not come back because the game takes skill to enjoy, though revenge gear is turning off a lot of people. Hope they fix that shit soon
>>170060807
Why even do duels as LB if you are so weak willed
>when you are one with your opponent
I love these kind of moments in battles, they make me all warm and fuzzy inside!
>elimination
>they get a bot level 3 peacekeeper
>it just fucking cleans house
>>170060853
You gotta learn to punish the warden zone attack with GB on reaction, it's unsafe on regular block.
>Tfw PK players are still alive
>>170060558
We need this meme edited.
>>170060837
Where are you located? I've had almost no problems at all in 1v1 or 2v2 hold a few times the game has hiccuped but I notice a lot of issues in 4v4 modes. US for me.
>>170060745
>We need to add captains in dominion
I feel there should be some method for spawning captains. like every 100 renown a player earns should spawn a captain for their team.
>>170060784
This might seem like a dumb suggestion but maybe restart your router?
>>170060886
>Soldier Surge
>>170060890
US as well. It definitely happens way more often in 4v4, but it still happens occasionally in the other modes
>>170060853
I love the same thing with Warden/Kensei matchup. You just have to feel the flow of the battle to win.
>Wouldn't it be fuckin rad if I put a quit to desktop button in the lobby
Fucking why
>play around with +defense boosts as THE LAW
>stacking gear stats with the defense boost from "Righteous Deflection"
>Have just shy of 4 bars of health after fighting a roach and hostile law
>Eat a ground zero catapult strike
>Survive
You can't stop the LAW.
Who /afk/ here?
>>170060745
>We need to add captains in dominion
Fuck that shit, it's one of the reasons I fucking hate skirmish so much
>Faggots just stick to the stronger AI on their team
>Go to fight them
>During the fight the fucking AI will GB giving the enemy a free heavy
It's nonsense
>>170060964
How do you do that? Just go to AI matches?
What's a good reactive class to play who can really capitalize on a good parry or guard break? and with strong feints
I've been playing raider and there's really not a whole lot for him to follow up with
I guess now that the majority is quitting I should especially just wait for a big sale so I can join when the game gets some fresh blood.
>>170060917
>This might seem like a dumb suggestion but maybe restart your router?
I'm willing to accept any suggestion right now but unfortunately, it didn't work. Other games don't have any connectivity issues though. I played The Division through Uplay a few hours ago without any problems whatsoever.
>>170060875
What do you mean exactly? GB when he is about to do the zone attack?
Been playing BB a lot so I have the natural instinct to dodge.
>>170060807
LIVE HOLLOWING
>>170060996
Kensei and Warden, I guess? Kensei is the feint machine, and Warden can follow GB with le vortex.
>>170060886
I'm aGIMPnewbie but I can give it my best. Anyone got a clean background of that image (the US map part)?
>>170061025
Just take the in-game faction war map.
>>170061007
nah you get a free GB if you block wardens zone, thats why its unsafe
>>170060917
I was thinking about archers + a captain group at side points. They spawn immediately when you take one and assist middle with arrows
>>170061023
thanks anon, I'll try out kensei
really don't give a shit about warden
>>170060995
Dominion vs AI. On PC if you use a controller you can just turn it off while the sticks are in a direction. Also 640x480 at 20% resolution scaling is great. You lose very quickly if all 4 players are afk.
>>170060969
i think you meant to say
TACTICAL GENIOUS
>>170061095
It's a crutch for shitters
I've only been playing warden, conq and nobushi so far
just started watching the vikings tv show though and thought what the hell, I'll try to learn one of those. Can't figure which fits better though, thinking either valk or warlord
how do you beat orochi? whats best vs him?
>>170060964
>Bought the game to not play the game
give me your best conqueror memes
NOW!
>>170061189
learn to parry 30 frame attacks consistently
good luck
>>170061056
Yoo, I did not know this and it sound so good! Will surely come handy in handy in my next battles. Thanks, m8.
>>170061290
actually are they really 30 frame?
cause 500ms seems plenty with extra on top
>>170061246
>>170061052
shiiiiiiiit, didn't think of that! Working on it now
>>170061068
>I was thinking about archers + a captain group at side points
I really like that idea actually, would you want them periodically spawning or spawning somehow related to player actions? (like holding a secondary point for a few seconds to spawn them or spawning them for your team every X renown)
>>170061005
Don't know that to tell you. If /fhg/ develops some ideas to deal with server issues maybe we can add it to a pastebin.
>>170061189
>whats best vs him?
To crush the orochi, see them driven before you and hear their lamentations in the chat.
>>170061290
is there anyway to filter out classes in 1v1? Im new and all I get are orochis
>>170060964
Afk master race. Moral cucks be seethin
>>170060995
Tie a rubber band to your controller
>>170061175
Warlord is top tier because of defensive play and has a good offence. Valk is very good after the buffs with fast pokes and can keep people locked in combos if they don't know how to get out. Whichever one you choose, someone in fhg will probably be upset so pick the one you have fun with.
>>170060558
>>170060745
I want a "super soldier" for every faction which is basically a soldier that has risen from the ranks with hard work and a shitload of training.
>The footman has had enough, now you'l be the one getting his shield cut in half!
Visually they could have a lot of scavanged gear from the other factions,
>>170060519
1v1 and 2v2 will retain a small number of hardcore addicts playing against eachother all day. The ability to play the other modes is going to be effectively gone much sooner than anyone probably expects. I'm talking inside of 90 days
>>170061380
not really.
you can play bots if you have that much trouble
or ask someone on discord to teach you or something
Any tips on how to deal with berserkers? They are so fast.
>>170060964
https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/5xdfwh/how_were_fighting_afk_farming/
>>170061541
>I want a "super soldier" for every faction which is basically a soldier that has risen from the ranks with hard work and a shitload of training.
wasn't there already kind of this in the campaign? The soldiers with the health of a captain but could block and enter full guard mode? shieldbearers or something.
>>170061578
>leddit
lmao get owned cuck
Fucking hilarious people are trying to help Ubisoft charge hundreds of dollars for cosmetic dlc purchases. Have you ever queued for Dominion vs AI? Truly.
>>170061370
Spawning them every X renown sounds a bit unbalanced. Spawn them once a cap mb? Will enable some neat tactic decisions like killing archers and not capping the point.
>>170061578
"Toxic behavior" meaning that which threatens to put a dent in steel purchases in the p2w 4v4 modes. Maybe if levels 1-3 weren't such a drag, people wouldn't prefer to slog through it while sleeping
>>170061637
>Have you ever queued for Dominion vs AI? Truly.
Orders bruh
>>170060964
is there a discord? are there any 4 man group setups purely for afk farming?
>>170061667
Not worth the time spent to do completions or wins, the gain is too small. The only orders you have vs AI that are worth doing are executions, kills, or point captures. ALL of which are easier if your team is afk.
LEWDKEEPER teach me how to make webms please! Help this poor Sheep!
>>170061681
I've been asking about this for a while but sans discord
>get a group of 4 or more friends who will always keep the group running
>no reports
>profit
>>170061715i want valk to gently hug me with her breasts in my face
Law and disorder needs to be a real show
Just finished Vikings campaign. Jesus that dialogue.
>>170061812
>intro is an action montage set to carpenter brut
FUND
I know im few threads late but
>>170034615
This emblem is so fucking simple
And its the best one ive seen and way better than any of my emblems
Fuck
>>170061715
Webm for Bakas
Set ratio to -1 360 for long fights
-1 480 for medium videos
-1 720 for short videos or videos where you need to see chat text
3mb limit
Advanced - Tick the top box for two line hyperthreading or whatever the fuck it's called for way better quality to size ratio
>>170061657
>>170061637
not that i really care about people afk'ing vs bots, but come on, it's 2017, you really thought they were just gonna turn a blind eye? AFAIK every major online game has taken action against afker, you expected it to be different this time? just enjoy your free steel while you can, but don't act shocked and surprised that they are doing something against it
>tfw going to b away from pc for the week
At least I can still shitpost
>>170061715
webm for retards on gitgud.io (i think?) is great
have to record with something tho
I want to bleed all of my white blood for Nobushi.
Any good ideas for new mood effects? Preferably some more subtle than what we have now.
>>170062001
I bot farm in hearthstone and I afk farm here. Jewbisoft can get fucked if they think I won't start macroing to simulate an actual player.
>>170060558
They need for the soldiers to spawn at a consistent rate at all times regardless of who controls the point, as it stands right now both teams can just say fuck it and let it run through it's cycle as is.
>tfw no female SSBBW Shugoki waifu
>>170062162
I want you to bleed, too.
>>170060558
The peasants are for fertilising crops.
>>170060853
It's like that one episode of king of the hill where Dale thought he was a bounty hunter.
>>170062275
>They can't detect programs that could potentially do makros
You realize plenty of people have been banned for those alone?`Most of them didn't even use makros, they just potentially could have.
>>170061564
p-please respond.
>>170062318
Does the kick have any heavy followup?
>>170062254
Burning hot weapons during executions, some sizzle and light smoke as you cut through the enemy
>>170062001
They won't ban anyone. They understand the people doing it are the most dedicated players and the ones most likely to stay long-term. You must not be familiar with Ubisoft.
>>170062364
Practice against level three bots. They will use all the combos a player will against you. Learn to anticipate their attacks and block/parry accordingly. Drain their stamina; they can't do shit without it.
>>170062417
>1000 degree sword vs. peacekeeper
You know what we need? An edit of the goosh goosh scene with shugoki and peacekeeper
Assassins were a mistake
>>170061715
See
>>170061910
You'll need something like Shadowplay which is what I use to record gameplay first. Then convert it with WEBMforbakas.
>>170062404
The side-dodge heavy can be followed with a kick.
>>170062417
A tier 5 feat that sets your weapon on fire would be awesome. Not just as a mood effect, but for added damage, perhaps.
>>170062423
>People that get their gear by doing nothing are the most dedicated
Makes sense, yeah
Can someone explain to me why the fuck I have to be connected to ubi servers to play the single player? Such bullshit getting disconnected on my realistic playthrough
>>170062364
Patience, just wait a little while and give some reassuring shoves and the little tyke will tire him/her self out, this only works if you're a conqueror though.
>>170062469
And what is this scene exactly?
>>170062514
because youre a cuck that puts up with it
>>170062540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Co408pyEM
>mess with big picture once
>this shit
Banig
So I got my unique Lawbringer weapon (all parts, maxed out) and am soon to complete my chosen armor set. Should I save up for the burning wings or wait for more aesthetic stuff to be released?
>>170062565
I would very much like to see this with Shugoki and Peacekeeper
>>170061578
Gosh I can't wait to play Dominion AI just to search and report AFK farmers and record short evidence videos.
Get b& kids
Get b&
I'm not even kidding, this will be my endgame. Sounds more fun than current 4v4.
>>170062361
Considering that people still bot farm in seige, ill take my chances
>>170062627
Doing god's work, anon/
>>170062565
Disgusting
>>170062627
A worthy crusade.
>108 gear PK get parried 4 times in a row trying to spam
Ah... so this is... the power... of afk farming...
OFFICIAL "WHO IS THE MOST FUN TO PLAY" POWERRANKINGS
S
>Shugoki
A
> Conq, Zerk, Valk, Nobushi
B
>Warlord, Warden, Law, Kensei
C
>Raider, PK, Roach
>>170062751
>Conq
>Fun to play
>>170062751
>nobushi overkensei
fuck that
>>170062513
Yes people that play the game all day and then care enough about it to leave it on at night are the most dedicated players.
>>170062751
>warlord
>not dragging their asses to the pit
it's like you dont like making the enemy team rage
so is this game even worth getting into at this point? I keep queuing into people that have 100 hours to my 3
So white colors on gold armor tint is objectively the best scheme for knights, right?
>>170062751
>"""official"""
S
Warden, Nobushi
A
Shugoki, kensei, Lawbringer
B
conq
F
The ones I haven't played but I'm sure they are not fun. Besides that I'm not touching anyone of those snowcunts
>>170062751
>>170062856
Conqueror and Raider need to switch places.
>>170062898
The most dedicated players are the ones that get their gear normally. Your logic is none at all.
>>170062920
well, they don't have matchmaking yet
game is full of bugs and memory leaks
you could wait for a patch or play SP\bots\2v2s and hope for noobs
What is guaranteed when a Kensei parry's an Orochi?
>>170062627
gonna do this too
the law will be brought
>>170062627
God speed anon. Doing it for free is my life's purpose.
>>170062967
guardbreak into sideheavy
>Want to wear black with yellow trim
>Only suitable color-scheme is part of the Flying Lyse outfit and costs 15k fucking steel
God fucking damnit
>>170062997
>Doing it for free is my life's purpose.
>>170062960
Uh, no? Those are the consumerist brand-loyalists that shill for Ubisoft and willingly buy micro-transaction packs.
>>170062967
i've been side heaved as orochi and I can't even block it, wtf?
>warlord attack coming in from left
>full second ahead of time push stick 100% left
>get hit
>look down
>at around 265 degrees
They need to allow deadzone changing or some shit because it's fucking pathetic how often the controller doesn't read block-changes/hidden stance properly.
>>170062932
why take the risk of a bear hug here? for style points?
still learning shoguki but it seems unnecessary considering his health
I miss playing against Wardens
Atleast they used heavy attacks sometimes
>>170063052
No, those are simply lazy fucks?
>>170063115
It takes more effort to leave your computer/console on at night though? Please stop shilling for Ubisoft, it's pathetic.
>>170062751
Peacekeeper played properly is fun as fuck. Deflect is so satisfying combined with her cute little shouts.
>>170062963
yeah matchmaking isnt even a thing; I just keep getting people way above me. Id be pissed if I paid for the game but I got it for free
How do you get out of Valk's trip combo?
>>170063172
absuing iframes and dodging into her weapon at the right time
>>170063052
Is that why they don't use microtransactions to get their gear and use a script instead?
Hmmm...I need to think about this...yees...think...
>>170063158
>It takes more effort to do nothing instead of actually playing the game
Hmmmmmmm.....
>>170062932
Is bearhug always guaranteed if you have your armor up and he goes for a shoulder bash?
>>170063052
>Play single player
>play 4v4 modes
>10k steel by the time I hit Grade 3.
Maybe you should stop being shit?
So whats the deal with constantly getting 'match making failed'? My NAT is green connection is stable but I can't play a single PVP game bar the occasional duel. What the fuck?
>>170063052
>been play 4v4 and doing the quests
>sitting on 20k steel after upgrading my gear to 108 AND getting a new execution
you're shit m8
>>170063229
Depends how you time it.
Does high block damage resistance make a noticeable difference? I rarely ever notice block damage in the first place.
>>170063296
P E E R T O P E E R
>>170063329
No
The guy that tested it on Reddit was taking 2 block damage off a raider top heavy with no gear, 1 damage was maxed gear, 3 damage with that stat at minimum. It's negligible as fuck.
>>170063343
Not just any p2p it's a p2p that tries to connect everyone to everyone else in the match directly instead of just to the host.
>get your whole team to jump off ledges and kill themselves
pro strats.
>>170063235
>>170063298
Shit? I'm over here gaining extra currency while I'm not playing and you're moralfagging for Ubisoft. I can't understand it. I bet you bought a Nintendo Switch. Anything to please the corporate overlord. Stay upset Redditors. Must be the same people that get upset at me helping my teammate in 2v2 with the sneaky Warlord ringout.
>all people in the lobby leave
>go to main menu
>it hangs for 5 minutes
Why is Ubishit so shit?
>>170063227
>>170063235
>>170063298
Ubi shills are out in force this morning. I spent all night afk farming if it makes you feel better
>>170063380
What about that plus block damage?
>play 5 hours ago
>duel has high activity and 2v2 zero activity
>play now
>suddenly 2v2 is hot shit
What gives?
>>170063468
Get a job
Poorfag.
>>170063514
Can't remember for that one, but I imagine it's just as shitty
>this warden sword design
hella lewd Ubisoft
>>170060886
>We need this meme edited.
Been working on it, made it so all the factions have 0 territory and aren't gaining any. What should the soldiers faction/symbol be so he can gain all 60 territories. Soldiers? Sheep? What color is his faction? gray?Sorry about the questions, first time making OC
>>170063551
So I can spend it on giving my money away to Ubishill? I guess that's the moral thing to do, to spend $599 on a single video game. Oh wait, I can just leave the game on while I go to my job and pocket the money. Really makes you think.
>tfw have spent like 15k steel opening chests trying to get Nobushi unique items and haven't found any
At least I got a kind of cool golden blade.
I wonder just how over the top this game's cosmetics are going to get in the name of Ubisoft's greed.
>Yellow NAT
What the fuck guys?
>>170063640
I would say use the webpage map instead of the ingame one. Also probably flip the soldier across the vertical axis.
>>170063707
Got this a bit ago as a drop
allo fellow Nobu
>>170063734
All I want to see is cross-faction cosmetics exclusive to your chosen faction.
We should make a list of all the useless stats in the game. What I have so far is:
Block damage / Block Damage Resistance
Health Regen on Execution
Exhaustion Recovery
Stamina Regen possibly?
>>170063707
I know that feel
>Spent 17k on chests when I got conq to level 3
>All the helmets look shit
>All the chests look shit
>Didn't get the weapon or weapon handle I want
>Didn't get a shield with the stats I wanted
I'm not sure if I should keep on throwing money down that drain, or just start upgrading my shitty-looking items
>>170063830
I hope you enjoy grayscale
>>170063830
Try playing someone like Shugoki, and then reconsider your stance on exhaustion recovery and stamina regen
>>170063854
I just don't want to waste steel on shit I'll regret later.
>Assassin order
<Assassin order
>Vanguard order
>Friend order
I am upset
Whoops, didn't see there was a new thread. Anyway, so I play Warden for Vanguard, Warlord for Heavy (yeah I know, i'll burn in hell, yada, yada) and Serker for Assassin.
Got fairly good with Berserker and Warden, the former basically being my main. But I want to try different things out and not limit myself to basically just 1/12 of the game. So I got this order to do Skirmish with Hybrids. Which Hybrid hero is good? I don't mind if he's hard to learn. And don't want it to be too easy. Thoughts?
>>170063854
The first three you're more-or-less right about, but Exhaust Recovery isn't useless.
>>170063854
whoops,
>>170063930
meant for >>170063830
>>170063927
Valkyrie or Lawbringer imo
>>170063927
Valk
>Fast with good combos, flavour of the month. Strongest of the three
Nuboshi
>Slower than valk but with more range and higher damage. Middle-strongest
Law
>Slow with no combos, one of the weakest characters in the game. Infuriatingly shit
>>170063927
THE LONG DICK OF THE LAW WILL PREVAIL
>>170063830
>>170063887
Are stats basically the same as far as their location is concerned across classes? I know with the conqueror chest his three stats is block damage(or resistance), execution regen, and sprint, so all in all it doesn't matter what chest I have, does the same apply to other classes?
>>170064062
Got your Guimond weapon, yet, Lawman?
>>170064062
Lmao ur all crybaby faggots
See
>>170060807
>>170064074
yrr.
>>170063927
Valk and nobushi are good, I enjoy nobushi more but apparently valk is stronger.
The law is fun in 4v4, but you will have a hard time in duels.
Tho devs talked about possibly buffing him (>implying implications which i didn't imply), so who knows, he might be the next hot thing
So is the patch live? Because I can't Counter Guard Break anymore
>>170063551
>give ubisoft your shekels goy
lmao jesus atleast on /v/ the shills actually try.
>>170064134
It's been live all week.
>>170064008
>>170064120
I am on the ropes between Valk and Nobushi. Nobushis seem to give me the most trouble when I play Warden, that range is quite an advantage if one knows how to maintain it.
I suppose I'll be a weeb for a while, see how things go, if it's not my thing, I'll go Valk.
>>170064062
I am sorry my honorable friend, but besides aesthetic I don't find anything else interesting about the law's long cock.
>>170064162
hope you're not using a controller
>>170064156
Well I havent played all week only came back today
I was finally used to counter guard breaking and they change it
>>170064086
Only the axe and the pole, and the pole isn't that great imo.
Surely somewhere within the Myre, there is an Orochi that knows how to fight? One who uses feints, zone attacks, parries, deflects, and every other tool in their arsenal in combat? Where are these warriors that are worth a hundred men?
>>170064232
That's just the axe. Get the pole and spike and it will come together, trust me.
>>170064216
I am not. I am very used to my KB+M and have got quite good with it. I don't understand the controller appeal (although I do have both PS and Xbox controllers I used for like Prince of Persia and what-not). Every second or third game I beat someone as a Berserker I get asked whether I am using a controller. So hey there you go. It's just personal preference I reckon.
>>170063551
FUCK UBISOFT DON'T GIVE EM FUCKING ANYTHING
>>170064216
Not him but I'm using a controller playing Nobushi
What am I missing out on?
>crashing all the time cause of memory leak
>people on forums saying turn off UPNP and make your nat yellow
>4 games without crashing now
>>170064354
14 frames of reaction time
>>170063740
GUYS?!?!?
>>170064354
waaaaaay faster stance change.
you can actualy use your hidden stance to change your guard and not just to dodge
>>170064421
And I can't do this on controller why?
I like For Honor. It's fun. But I think I'm giving up on Ubisoft after this game. For them to make a great game, they'll have to feel like they need to. If they can get away with all the same old tricks every time, why bother putting in effort?
>>170064463
the hidden stance thing?
I used to find it hard to switch guards while remaining in hidden stance. Maybe i'm just a shitter, but I haven't got this problem with m+kb
and yes, switching guards, and thus efficient feints, is much easier with m+kb. fact.
>>170064463
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>>170063161
>Peacekeeper played properly is fun as fuck.
>properly
>>170064312
No... Because of how the game determines Hidden stance. Controller is dogshit.
>>170064354
Refer to this handy "diagram"
The window for Hidden stance is really fucking narrow.
>wake up just now; didn't mean to pass out at 11pm (it's 4am now)
>TIME TO FOR HONOR
>Dominion
>it's a fucking shitshow
This isn't anything new but losing in about 7 minutes was incredible. Why is gear a thing.
>>170064539
It's the same shit, you can also make your analog sticks more sensitive if you want
Lawbringer decapitation execution when?
I have no idea where the gb counter is supposed to be
does the tutorial lie or something
>>170064629
oh and to add to that the deadzone is really fucking massive, so instead of switching the block when you start moving the stick, it tends to only switch after you're 75% or so through the motion.
Fucking hilarious
>>170064678
>does the tutorial lie or something
yes
>>170064685
i wish you could change deadzone on mouse
sick of my guard jumping by itself
I feel like I'm fighting bad Nobushis when I can beat them as Lawbringer. Especially when that kick has such serious combo potential.
>>170064629
Ah, well good to know I made the right decision from the get-go then! I will go and try her out in a few, see what I can and cannot do. Cheers!
>>170064685
I can understand why they wouldnt want people to change deadzones on consoles, but man, at least let us do it for controllers on PCs.
>>170064624
Properly is deflections and counter-attacking, not just spamming light attacks.
>>170064774
It's just a ton of things that really fuck Nobushi to death with all the compounding problems of controllers. Not great.
>>170064656
see >>170064629
suppose your guard is on the left. you go in hidden stance, and want to change it to right. it's really hard to do this without canceling your hidden stance. not saying it's impossible, but it's nowhere as easy as it is with m+kb,
changing to top? no, you can't do that.
I fuckin love Shugoki.
>>170064875
>Shugokis who just fish for GB or throwing people off ledges
I fought like, six of you faggots tonight who refused to actually fight and would legitimately wait out the clock like it's SF x Tekken until I'd get impatient and approach them.
>>170064875
Me too. Three main predictable attacks and slow enough that I can easily parry him. High risk parries, though.
>>170064685
>>170064774
Yet another benefit of playing the version with twice (2x) or even three times the framerate. If you're too much of a sperg to figure out how to change your controllers deadzones, you don't deserve to.
>>170064875
I do too, he's so damn easy to kill.
>>170064940
You haven't fought gayness until you've played Matador with an intelligent Shugoki.
>>170064709
how the fuck can i learn it then
D E A D G A M E
15 mins trying to find dominion in "your region", in the middle of EU, not once
always some brazilian 500ms ping potato we have to play on
fuck that
and fuck this
>>170064875
I'm still learning SHhgoki but really enjoying him so far. I'm doing fine in 1v1s, but when I get ganged up on in dominion I start to struggle. When I've lost my armor, and people are interrupting my parry -> gb, what should I be doing? I can wait for revenge, but what about after i pop it?
>>170065064
Correct, the game is on it's last legs. I hope you enjoyed the broken mess.
>>170065037
All charge attacks are best used mid combat at close-medium range when the opponent is ill prepared for it. Idiots who start sprinting from across the map deserve to get dodged.
>>170065101
VERY HIGH POPULATION
>>170064868
What works on controller is swiching the second you attack, only left or right though. So I guess you could enter the stance with top guard so you have 3 possible outcomes.
>>170064220
Well, they didn't change anything in terms of the Counter Guard Break timing. They simply made it so that if you GB someone, and they GB you - you can tech out of it. You couldn't previously. That's literally the only change. People misinterpret those patch notes so much.
Do I level Conqueror next? Femconqueror?
How do I play one
I have no idea how to beat Warlord with Nobushi
>>170065064
>>170065101
Here we go again.
>>170065285
You can replace "Nobushi" with "anybody" and you'd still be correct. All other characters are playing checkers, Warlord is playing Star Wars Chess with animations turned on.
>>170065285
How to beat a good Nobushi with Warden?
>>170065341
>be agressive and vortex them
wow shocking
Can't even finish daily because everyone is AFK.
I hope you are getting punished for your filthy deeds, afk scum.
>>170065071
idk i just hit people with my big stick
PSA: Lawbringers can get out of the Warden vortex by dodging and shoving.
>>170065240
>>170065338
Quite the hyperbole! I hope they don't ruin my character from people being bad. What can you possibly do to Warlord without going from top to total bottom?
>>170065338
>lock in kensei
>have to vs warlord
[sweating]
warlord is one of those characters where i really just feel like i can't fucking do ANYTHING
>>170065240
Preferably stand near a wall, wait for a parry or sometimes even block is enough to get a free GB into a 100% side heavy into a shield bash, if the enemy hits a wall with shield bash then go for another heavy and repeat, if they dont hit a wall just go for a light and repeat.
Or if someone is trash then you can just spam them with shield bashes and heavies
I feel like I have peaked in my skill
Might be time to uninstall and move on
Anyone else constantly dropping out of matches today?
>>170065637
Yes
>>170065415
You are retarded.
How do we save this shit of a game?
>warlord starts whining about how OP Nobushi is in group combat due to her AoE
what the fuck
>>170065773
you can't
it is a fighting game
>>170065740
That's not nice. Also completely unwarranted.
>>170065425
>Quite the hyperbole!
That would imply it's not entirely true. Warlord has no counters currently, he is awarded from simply staying passive and being reactionary, has a fuckton of damage to even rival assassins - can literally trade with assassins due to the super armor on his heavies, has the most control in his guard break movement, has the best unblockable disrupt move in the game - which incidentally also gives you free damage on people if it hits, so on, so forth.
I mean for fuck sake, the only reason the Warlords don't win the tournaments is because of Conqueror's iframes on his shield bash. If not for them, Warlord would literally have just slipped to the top spot without even sweating it much.
>>170065783
Warlords are known whiners. They are the class I have seen complain the most often hands down, followed by Raider. But Raider I understand.
>>170065773
Better gamemodes, remove or heavily nerf the gear
>>170065773
We wait for the next big general to come along so you shitposters can go fuck that place up.
I stopped playing this gemu weeks ago because I was only matched against shit players in duels and I got bored
did the general playerbase improve yet?
>PK who got honor 5 by just spamming light attacks
I dun gettid...
>Law and Conq emote spam
is there anything better?
>>170065817
What tournaments? I'm not a Redditor.
I think Warlord is just tops because he's well-rounded with no obvious flaws. We should try to get more characters up to that level so the game isn't boring. Nerfs are BORING. Buffs are fun.
>>170065415
No, they can't
Side dash attacks cannot be caught by a GB because the attack portion of it starts up very fast, Shove is much slower
>>170065824
Raiders are bros. I don't think I've had a fight with a Raider since release that I didn't enjoy. Might be because Lawbringer and Raider is a mirror matchup.
>Finally get around to finishing off story mode
>Final fight against Apollyon you have to use an Oroachi
>Final battle is just spamming light attack until she dies
How anti-climactic
So wtf is up with PK's face? Is it just a fucked up in creation or is she being a retarded looking quasimodo canon?
>>170065880
what dont you get?
>>170065824
>But Raider I understand.
Being a raider is suffering.
>When you get revived you are now at 20% health instead of full
Yes or fuck
>>170066014
It's a basic as fuck placeholder face that isn't meant to be seen in bright light.
Conquerors face is the same.
>>170065773
What is there to fix really?
>>170065880
that's the best feature of PK, though
>>170065945
armored heavies(this is a huge one)
superior block lights which are fast from either side
headbutt confirms off of everything
fullblock counters for free dmg
headbutt overall being insanely fast and an amazing offensive tool
easy wall throws because of his insane throw range
>>170066009
Warden deserved that final battle with Apollyon.
>>170066014
>>170066062
I haven't seen these images. Pics?
>>170066087
>PKs most fun and best feature
>Not her MURITORO
>>170066054
But they're Raiders!legendary!
>>170065878
I'm kind of in the same boat as you. What I've been doing is adding the few good players I find to my friend's list and have a couple of matches with them every so often but a lot of them have quit now.
I don't believe this game has much left for its players. I entered a tournament and it was entirely Warlord headbutts, Shugoki running around trying to knock you over for a free hit or GB, a few diehard Wardens trying to make it work, PKs darting in with a zone only to back out right afterwards, and tons of Conqs shieldbashing to the ends of the earth. Basically, entirely no-fun cheese. I shouldn't talk though since I was one of the Warlords using homing headbutts. Got shit tons of hatemail after the tourny too for being a 'no-skill scrub' which was interesting because everyone was using cheese, I just did it more successfully.
Warlord isn't even my most-used character or most-liked, the game balance is just awful in FH
decided to do story mode
fuck this is bad
>>170066216
It'sLEGENDARY.
UNGA BUNGA
ME HEADBUTT
>>170066213
I just want to fuck people up with a big axe. Instead, I have to ledge because it's one of the only edges I have over other classes. I feel worse for lawbringers though.
>get drop kicked from sky
>get excited because it was a really good kill
>It is an AI
I hate fighting a Valkyrie or even just being near her because of that retarded fucking voice.
>dare to launch a light attack at Warlord
>instant FBS into counter into headbutt into heavy that all confirm
>>170063081
You gotta take it where you an get it. It's risky because wardens can cancel GB, but if you let him shield bash you enough times then most are too slow to react.
>>170062856
>>170062960
not liking to play our boy conq
do you not like bashes you fags?
>win dominion 1200:200
>game crashes before endscreen
>>170066298
Raider, I'm a Lawbringer. Keep practicing, my man. We are the same, and I believe in you.
>>170066216
RAAIIIIIDDDEEEEEER
>>170066164
which one is that
>>170066342
Nah, the heavy isn't confirmed after either allblock or the headbutt. In fact neither is the light, because if you were guarding/attacking left into his allblock, you end up blocking the light poke that comes at you.
whos a better all-rounder class between orochi and kensei?
ill probably never be really good at this game but id like to main a class that has a decent chance against anyone
>>170066425
Deflect light attack bleed
>people who can't CGB
how? it's simple
>>170066360
All me Tbh, second post was an addition.
>>170066446
what about dash poke
>>170066405
When it comes to PKs and wardens, I just get torn up. Everyone else it's mostly fair, maybe valks have a slight edge. We both have buffs coming at least.
>>170066493
After headbutt? That's confirmed.
>>170066515
gay
>>170066506
Be patient. When it comes to PKs, I find cornering them is best. The less they can move around, the easier a time I have ripping them apart.
Soon the chains will come off for us both.
>>170066446
Full allblock (1 second of holding it) is a guaranteed light or heavy depending on attack/character. Often that can depend if they are blocking on your left. The biggest example of block direction importance is the full parry combo only working on right and top blocks.
>>170066163
>>170066340
I just took this pic. Hope they fix her face before the games launch. ;)
>>170066548
Yeah man, that's where all my PK victories come from. Cornering the little bitches so they can't dodge anywhere.
Someone bandicam here? Do you have the same problem that bandicam is no longer able to focus on For Honor after you tabbed out once (windowed mode) ?
It's the only game that does this.
>>170066446
you sure?
>>170066630
PEACESHITTERS BTFO
>>170066548
>>170066631
Or sending them on a tour down a cliff.
>>170066631
So it is for all assassins. Movement is their advantage. Take it away from them.
>>170066278
side step and punish, its pretty easy.
>>170066630
Oh my god, peacecutie so CUTE!
>>170066630
Jesus Christ
>>170066630
>peacecutie
>>170066630
That's a man, baby!
>>170066473
>beat a warlord through his revenge mode build 1v1 as kensei
>he cries after the match because i guard broke him
????
>>170066743
if you have a side dash attack
can you get an untechable guardbreak after you sidestep his headbutt?
>>170066658
I was pretty sure about it but I guess not. Seems like you and >>170066623 are right that it confirms after the allblock's starting animation is done.
>GB and parry bot using, slow walking roach
Oh my god all the cliches at once.
I didn't even say anything because he doesn't deserve my official salt that's why I unload it here.
What gear stats are needed to survive 3/4 vs 1 battles? BESIDES revenge.
>>170066473
Every time I encounter a person that can't CGB, I abuse it mercilessly. They'll learn one day.
>>170066473
I get scared, OK!?
>>170066917
the thing is i've seen people Rep 5 + who can't, it's not even like it was catching them off guard because i just did the same combo
>allied brawls
>no friends
okay
>>170067007
add LegatusValefor if you're on pc
i need to do them
>>170061541
that's conqueror
>AAA game
>people still don't fall down sometimes for no reason when you throw them out of stamina
>people still don't fall down sometimes for no reason when you shove them during revenge
such fucking stupid bugs for a released game
>try to keep block on orochi's zone
>he goes for the top lights
>he goes for zone if you block top
>try anything else, he just parries
the fuck am i supposed to do against this.
>>170066061
Yes.
Now the skill Protected revive puts you to 40% health.
>Saturday
>That slow ass event order progression
Not gonna happen huh
>>170067089
Assassins have a bug where you they spam changing guard direction and they don't fall over
>>170066729
Orochi and beserker can be annoying, but nearly on the same level as the PK.
Who looks cooler at rep 3
Kensei
Warden
Conqueror
>tfw our faggot is legendary
I can't beat any PK with any vanguard character. I don't know what to do. Please, wise general, lend me your aid. What do I even do against light attack spam? I can't even move my stance to block them sometimes.
>>170067193
Conq main here, I look like shit and it makes me sad.
Warden is probably the best
>>170067214
Warden should do ok, I don't know enough about kensei. If you're a raider, throw them off a fucking cliff, it's all they deserve.
Hopefully I can get to rep 5 before they start hammering afkers. I just want to be fashionable without getting crates. Does that make me a bad person?
>>170067214
Wardens scare the shit out of me. They're very hard to predict and open up.
>>170067198
Jesus Christ.
>>170067317
You paid for the game, and as long as it doesn't hurt other players, I don't see why Ubishit should even care about it.
>>170067193
Warden has the most customization options out of all these. Definitely a dev favourite.
>>170067198
....what?
>>170067404
Apparently they do because they've been encouraging people to report with video evidence. Understandable, having afks on your team is not conducive to victory. People don't like doing it alone with matchmaking turned off because having multiple afks on your team lead to faster games and thus more exp and steel but it does piss off the people who are trying to play normally
>>170067521
It doesn't matter if you do it with AI.
>>170066878
how do you know hes not just gud?
>50 ai kills in elimination
That sounds like a massive waste of time
Anyone else really enjoy playing Peacekeeper?
When I started the game I picked her first thing and played with her a ton, problem was I didn't really test the other classes much, so I never realized how important blocking is.
So at rep 2 I realized that I'm shit out of luck unless I stop "dodging" and start blocking/parrying.
But now that I've put the time into it it's become so fucking satisfying to play with her.
>>170067546
I don't think you understood what I meant. It's ALL with AI, just with either matchmaking turned off or with people on your team.
why they lie like that
and WHY can't i select just "my region" i'm ok with waiting if the ping is stable as a result
>>170067143
holy fuck that looks really weird
how
>>170067610
I'm sure enjoying that 0-3 in duels.
>>170067559
Technically, playing video games is a massive waste of time.
How do you punish a PK that does nothing but wait for you to attack then side dodge attack?
>>170067610
>Anyone else really enjoy playing the most broken class?
Fuck off we're full.
>>170067143
Someone fucking did this to me earlier holy shit I thought it was a laggy connection thing he would smack me as I tried to counter the nonexistent GB
>>170067214
get gud enough to parry lights
use spacing and longer ranged attacks whiffis etc
attack fast and put a lot of pressure
>>170067641
I don't think she's that weak.
>>170067681
Isn't that Warden/Warlord/Anyone who's great at blocking?
What's best to go for stats wise with a rep 3 warden?
>>170067715
>parry lights
Do I have to sell my soul for that or something?
>>170067736
It's 0-3 against her.
>>170067653
feint
>>170067554
Because it was unnatural, you can't parry every single light attack and counter every guardbreak of both opponents in all 3 matches. You can if you are a bot maybe, not if you are a human
>>170067757
>It's 0-3 against her.
Ahh.
>>170067736
Warden is too, but less so. I've personally had much of an issue with the warlord, but I do see a lot of complaints. Peacecunts are objectively easy mode though and you should kill yourself.
Eldritch eye/tentacle armor designs/effects when? I want to serve the horrors beyond the realm of mortal men.
>zerker's punch does damage
>raider's knee to the face doesn't
uhh ubicucks?
>>170067757
>Do I have to sell my soul for that or something?
vigorously train for days
or if you're unluckyly slow, summon satan
>>170067473
Lewdkeeper is all over Reddlt, Tumblr and Discord chats. She's a full on public cum dumpster. I can guarantee there will be porn of her next.
>>170067559
No reason to play vs ai when you get reduced rewards and each order is around 2 games worth of xp/steel.
>>170067832
>Peacecunts are objectively easy mode though and you should kill yourself.
Not trying to start shit, but why? What is so objective about that?
The low damage, low range and low health pools kind of force her into a corner. Yeah she's too good against the classes that can't stop spam, but spam is a terrible tactic in general.
PK OR OROCHI? PK SEEMS BETTER BUT OROCHI HAS MORE FUN FEATS
The cgb is still 50/50 and no patch 1.03 in sight for the ps4.
>>170067953
>More fun then stealth.
Not Possible. Nothing is better then sneaking up on someone lining up a catapult only to throw them off the edge.
>20 executions in dominion PVP
>as conq
>1 execution every 4 matches
good times, solid jolly good times
>>170068004
>not leaving nail bombs on bodies in elim
>not teaching people the mistake of rez spamming
>>170067953
why not both?
>>170067934
>can switch faster and light attack than every other character can
>can backwards dash faster than most characters can spring
>damage is not low by any means
>stamina for days
You're a faggot and you know it, stop being obtuse.
Why is it that everytime I face a conq, shugoki or warlord, we play on a map with almost no breathing room?
>>170067787
well, i can, unless its a pk
orochi\warden if im not in top condidion
guardbreaks are easy mode
>>170068076
Because there's too much overlap for me to want to level both. I'd probably do PK since its better but I'm worried they'll nerf her into the ground
>>170068028
Guys help me, I'm trying to do the daily Brawl with a non Vanguard hero order but it won't let me.
This keeps happening.
>>170063468
>>170063489
>implying i bought steel
>>170068082
>>can switch faster and light attack than every other character can
Sure, that's true, but again her damage and health pool work for this. She needs more hits then pretty much every other class to secure a kill.
>>can backwards dash faster than most characters can spring
True.
>>damage is not low by any means
Yeah it is. Just go into practice and check for yourself, almost all her attacks are on the lowest side for damage.
>>stamina for days
Everyone has stamina for days if they don't spam attacks.
>>170068120
Nigga you cannot. Not every single time.
>>170068228
>everyone has stamina for days
This argument between you two didn't interest me until you decided to reveal that you were retarded.
what class do you get the most leavers?
i'd say shugoki. Most time people ragequit when i play the fatty
>>170068264
its not that hard man
>>170068106
Because Duel's are terribly balanced map wise.
>>170068163
>they'll nerf her into the ground
If they are going to "nerf" anything it's going to be the light attack spam, which is already trash at higher level play.
>>170068297
I would think Warlord or PK. Fat boy isn't terribly hard to fight for a skilled player.
>>170066878
Have you considered the fact that maybe you're just bad? If you honestly consider countering GBs so impossibly hard that you think people are cheating when they do it every single time (easy as fuck) you should present yourself as a labrat to the nearest science lab because you are in the bottom 0.0000001% of humans in terms of reaction time. Maybe they can identify the gene that makes you both retarded and slow at the same time.
Parrying, as you say, literally every light attack is quite hard, but I've done it before plenty of times to characters that almost exclusively use them like Valkyries or Nobushis, or Warden top lights, they're so predictable.
>>170068212
STEEL BUYIN'
>>170068297
I've had multiple people quit in the first round of a duel because I no-sell them with Lawbringer.
>>170068228
>Yeah it is. Just go into practice and check for yourself, almost all her attacks are on the lowest side for damage.
Irrelevant when you can't do much about stopping them from coming in.
>Everyone has stamina for days
Except you CAN do like 7 attacks and dodge around and your stamina is about half way down. I do like one attack and a dodge and I'm out of breath.
>>170068264
>>170068308
street fighter parrying is harder
>>170068310
They are 100% changing PK zone.
I keep fucking failing attacks that come out of a dodge, do i click attack button when im dodging or after the dodge?
>>170068360
>>170068212
JEW ENABLIN'
>>170068291
Oh you caught me. That's some great proof that all my points are wrong right there.
>>170068395
>Irrelevant when you can't do much about stopping them from coming in.
What are you even talking about? Unless you're referring to lite attack spam which is bad against most classes then she's as easy to block as most every class in the game.
>Except you CAN do like 7 attacks and dodge around and your stamina is about half way down.
Only if you don't block. Attacking doesn't drain that much stam unless you wiff or are blocked.
>>170068418
changing it how?
>>170068308
Of course it's hard to parry a light attack. If that wasn't hard then nobody would ever attack first anymore, like ever. That is the meme meta in theory but it's just not a thing to parry every single one.
>>170068363
I've had a lot of people recently (mostly Orochi and Kensei) ragequit at the end of the second or third round. Lawbringer just seems to upset people without even trying.
>>170068418
>They are 100% changing PK zone.
Gonna make it as fast as the Wardens then? that's fine as 90% of players struggle against his as is.
>>170068545
probably going to make it same speed instead of being a third faster than anyone else
>>170068545
The obvious answer is to make the start up on par with Wardens. As of now it's literally too fast to react to.
>>170068545
they should make it so she cant start an attack from a different direction and turn it into a zone for a start
>>170068212
VORTEX ABUSIN'
>>170068573
>nobody would ever attack first anymore, like ever
welcome to for honor
that's already how it is
I don't even feel bad. Normally I do try to avoid pushing people off ledges, because I prefer having gameplay. But Warlords can go fuck themselves.
>>170068613
Literally anybody can heavy cancel zone. That does nothing but gut her mind games.
Drop the speed to Warden level, done.
Wait, so the Warden vortex is
>light
>bash
>or grab
>light
>ad infinitum
?
>>170068515
>Unless you're referring to lite attack spam which is bad against most classes then she's as easy to block as most every class in the game.
She can switch and attack before most classes can switch, you've already admitted that's true. Guess what that means, coupled with the fact her stamina seems limitless? You die by a thousand cuts with almost no ability to counter, unless you play purely defensive. Then she can GB and bleed you. Your bitch is getting nerfed.
Post Lawbros
>>170068586
>>170068592
>>170068613
how fast exactly is it though?
I have more problems with warden zones than PK zones
>>170068648
Yeah surprising to see people comparing about the non defensive classes considering they are objectively the most powerful. Even with the win rates to boast.
>>170068194
in my experience, black raiders are almost always cancerous so you probably deserve it.
>>170068781
Peacekeeper zone is instant.
>>170068781
warden orochi zone\top light 30 frames
pk zone 20 frames
>>170068676
no she can turn lights into zone if she presses the heavy on top of the light fast enough and it will show an indicator for a light from whatever direction she was attacking in before the zone
>>170067990
Don't worry, it's 50/50 on 1.03 too. They only made it easier to tech.
>>170068753
3 classes have guard switches too slow for her.
That's it.
And while that is indeed a problem that will be fixed, other then them you can block her light attack spam.
If you're still playing at a level where light attack spam is your bane that means you're playing with one of the 3 classes that can't stop it correctly, or you're you're still playing against bads as Light attack spam doesn't exist at higher levels of play.
Parrying is the strongest thing in this game. 2 hits from light attack spam is not worth the 3rd one being parried into half of your health as a PK.
>>170068781
I think it's like 200 MS where the Wardens is 300.
The problem with the Wardens is that it reaches so fucking far and deals more damage.
That's why so many people are caught off guard by it.
>>170068864
>>170068903
I think it's balanced though, warden's zone can hit you from across the map while PK's you have to get in the face
or am I wrong?
Is legendary the new badass?
>>170068935
>you're playing with one of the 3 classes that can't stop it correctly
Bingo bango bongo. Hell, I'd be fine keep your cunt the same if they just buffed mine.
>the law runs to buff while 4v1ing you
>spams the fucking hook
>I kill 2 in revenge anyway because lol revengegear
>round ends in a time out and lose
>he spams the fucking emote
>"You play like a bitch"
>"LOLOLOLOL DO I TASTE SALT?????? GIT GUD SCRUB"
this game is going to give me aids one day I swear
>>170068935
I guess the tournaments with all the PKs spamming lights and zones and feinting heavies to open people up are all just shit players then
>>170068297
Warlord with an insistence on ringing out as much as possible and carefully killing people 2v1 without letting them build any revenge.
>>170068757
>>170069029
> I'd be fine keep your cunt the same if they just buffed mine.
That I agree with completely. I wish all classes could block at the same speed. considering how important blocking is at a higher level of play.
>>170069034
Wait, wait...a Lawbringer RAN from you in a 4v1? That's like the ideal situation for a Lawbringer to fight in.
>>170068297
I've not once been leaved upon when I play Berserker.
It's like a 33% chance people leave in the fucking loading screen when I play Warden.
>>170068907
thats not exclusive to anyone and its called kara-cancel
>>170068935
You act like most PKs don't do that shit. Guess what, they fucking do. If you don't, good on you, but I don't really believe you. Your class is broken and it'll be fixed soon.
>>170068004
Ive met many PKs using this stealth feat. Its an absolute waste. Not a single time I got caught off guard or anything.
A PK using it trying to stealth around is a dead weight for a team.
>>170069042
They actually just nerfed her light attack spam so it can't be exploited like it was in that last tourney.
She also has only won a single tournament. With Warlords/Wardens and Conqs winning pretty much all the others.
>>170068757
Having been assigned this task by the gods of the post number assigner, I am slowly making my way towards infamy as a Lawbringer.I'm only rep1 lvl 2
>>170068228
But that's not true anon. Peacekeeper light damage is second only to Kensei. Her light damage per second is a little better than most AND she can switch direction instantly.
You would know this if you actually played anything else.
>>170069175
> but I don't really believe you.
The thing is you can't.
One you start playing against people who are really good at blocking and parrying then it's just not an option anymore.
And yeah it exists, really trashes on people at lower levels. But as someone who's played pretty much exclusively PK it really drops off in use as time goes on.
So how exactly is a Shugoki supposed to beat PK?
She switches her attacks around faster than I can fucking block and breaks my armor with two hits faster than I can swing one light. The only real success I've had is parrying her attacks which is almost fucking impossible. honestly starting to feel like I just just leave every duel against a PK to save myself the frustration
which three heroes can't block PKs light spam?
>>170069124
he got the shield buff and then ran back to spam the hook
yeah it was brutal thank god the other retards couldn't parry
>>170069260
Forgot the image to boot.
Does anyone play with a Steam Controller?
Is it good? My xbox360 controller is starting to crap out, thinking of getting steam
>>170068757
Haven't touched him since I leveled out warden. Hoping for buffs soon.
>>170069094
Die traitor dog.
Insta kicked out of 4 ( F O U R ) elimination matches after the loading screen in last 5 ( F I V E ) minutes.
Get ready for weeks worth of free champion pass
>>170069331
You gotta parry the first light into GB
>>170069026
youre wrong cause its literally the fastest attack in the game that she shouldnt have
When im trying out a new hero on training mode and got all the combos right on lvl.0, how many level 1/2 bots should i be able to kill in succesion before moving to lvl3?
>>170069201
You think you've never been caught off guard because you never noticed when they snuck up on you.
It's that fucking good.
Would you say this is worth it?
Block damage seems mostly useless
Wtf is happening in dominion??
2 games I joined the team is literally running around in circles in spawn.
>>170067231
Should Warlord just be removed all together? or can he be fixed?
>>170069338
If anything, my tactic in that situation is to impale charge the enemy into a wall or off a cliff. Long Arm is okay, but not ideal.
>>170060448
Who else here Big and Black?
>>170069402
someone's got to have the fastest attack?
>>170069438
I'd take a fraction more block damage, to potentially kill someone through a block than gain like, 5 more health on an execution. Execution health regen is the least affected stats of them all. You could stack it fully and it still wouldn't do diddly dick.
>>170069334
actually 4
raider, lawbringer, shugoki, nobushi
>>170069380
>Die traitor dog
just a quick reminder that the emperor refused to assist angron in his rebellion when he did the exact same for every other primarch
just a quick reminder that the emperor refused to remove angron's butcher's nails despite being a powerful enough psyker to be able to
just a quick reminder that the emperor condemned angron for doing the very things the emperor told him to do
just a quick reminder that dorn was autistic enough to fill a moat with the corpses of his own loyal soldiers just to enter a fortress of somebody who insulted him that wasn't even a fortress but rather actually a bomb
>>170069334
shugoki, raider and lawbringer?
>>170069448
Looking good for a filthy fucking criminal. White/gold is objectively the best color scheme.
>>170069295
But in a game of parries light damage isn't what wins the game.
It's parry follow ups. Which destroy PKs.
>>170069440
First event is pvp dominion games played. Don't know how it would work when the game doesn't re-queue you though.
>>170069448
Maybe I've just been unlucky, but I spent 15k on crates didn't get a chest, shoulders, weapon or shield as good-looking as those.
Also I'm not a big fan of the fedora helmets, and waiting on the one bucket-helm to drop.
What Are the matchups for everyone? Who counters who? Does every character counter 2, people and gets countered by 2 other people or something?
>>170069523
add fem to that and you got it BB
>>170069331
As the other anon said. Her first Light attack is slow enough for you to parry.
But in the end they should be speeding up your guard change.
>>170069412
I think Id notice PK stabbing me in the back unexpectedly.
>>170069523
You disgusting savage, you belong in a ditch.
>>170069438
Health regen on execution is also worthless, get a piece that has the primary stat as sprint speed
>>170069402
Who should have the fastest attack in the game then?
If anything the quick cloak and dagger class should have the fastest attack.
>>170069585
That's unlucky. I have that as well, but it would just nag at me that its the Roman Gladiator/Chaos undivided set.
Conq literally gets chaos undivided weapons set, and whether paired with the armor or the not-gladiator set, it looks badass.
I just have to go with the WC footman captain look, though.
>>170069624
>add fem to that and you got it BB
I got you
>>170069609
Warlord and Warden Counter everyone.
>>170069672
if her zone was punishable on block it'd be a lot more balanced
>>170069630
Naw man, you're dead too fast.
It's like the Sopranos ending. cut to black. You just re-spawn and think nothing ever happened.
Lawbringer and Warden need a proper crown ornament. Samurai need some oni horns/spikes. Vikings need animal fur/pelts.
>>170069547
Just a reminder that Angron was the only primarch too weak to conquer his own world.
Just a reminder that Angron was the only primarch whose own legion hated him.
Just a reminder that Angron was a broken failure that never achieved anything in his life outside of combat.
Just a reminder that the Iron Cage was to atone for the loss of the Emperor and to reforge the Legion into codex compliant Chapters.
But this is all meaningless since the Thousand Sons are the best legion.
>>170069672
>>170069526
no one should have a fastest attack
she should have a 30f one like everyone else.
>there are still people that think PK is OP
>Not even Top 5
>>170069759
Got to parry that shit.
But I'm fine with it being Warden Speed.
>>170069727
yeah, that's the stuff. I love my raidfu and love to tackle other femraiders to the ground!
>>170069726
I have no idea what chaos undivided is or what you mean by "gladiator set" or WC.
What I'd ideally like is:
>Bucket helm from your pic
>The chest you've got
>The flail which is black with a skull on it.
If I can get those three things, I'll be happy. However, it's a long slow grind for crates until I find the pieces I need.
>>170069534
>>170069550
i've beat many spammy PKs as lawbringer though
>>170069672
>1 cloak and dagger class gets the fastest attacks
>two other cloak and dagger classes get the shaft
>>170069201
Nah, stealth is fucking amazing on Point B with all the soldiers. Nobody sees you and gets fucking devastated when they get close
>>170069878
>The devs give the PK a 50% win rate in duels
It's sad when you think about it.
>>170069857
Why is there a flying baby with a skull face
I dont understand how to play Berserker at all
Seems completely useless
>Hat gives Nobushi graying hair
50+ is my fetish..!!!
>>170069727
>big strong tall viking grill
just make her white master race and adda nice fat girlcockand she is perfect waifu material>>170069730
>>170069831
>warlard has a bear pelt hood in the single player campaign
>never seen a single warlard online with it
can you even get that bear pelt? or did ubi cuck us just like they did the knights with those wings the beta captain had in the knights campaign?
>>170069862
should she have the same health and dodge speed as the other classes aswell?
>>170069943
That's actually brilliant, because PK is so small, it can be easy to mistake her for a soldier. Can you do hit and run tactics using the crowd as your cloak?
>>170069941
You think someone with two axes, or someone with a full sized fucking sword should be faster then the class that uses a fucking dagger?
found this browsing through the archives
how reliable is this information? does peacekeeper really counter 7 of the 11 other classes?
>>170070003
It'll probably be a dlc ornament. I'm sure all the non-dlc heroes will get new cosmetics as the game goes along.
>Fighting Valk as a LB
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>170069982
It's a computer.
True AI in 40K Always goes mad and kills everyone so they put computers in humans to cage the AI and force them to bend to your will.
The Human part of them is pretty much gone at that point.
>>170069857
>only primarch too weak to conquer alone
>destroyed every kingdom on the planet with a squad of starving slaves before they were surrounded by tens of thousands
>over half the primarchs needed the emperor's help when they werent just straight up accepted as royalty by the savages they were surrounded by
>never achieved anything outside of combat
>implying any loyalist primarch achieved anything except death or disappearance
>>170070057
No, she counters 10/11
>>170069815
all of them
>>170070072
Fighting anyone as LB really
>>170070072
Bait the lunge, dodge the sweep, avoid the tackle. Poke with top lights and, when they commit to movement, launch a heavy attack to hit them before they reach you.
>>170069985
Combos.
Combos make the damage they deal huge.
>>170070057
Naw, Warden, and Conq are also pretty great against her. A good Nobushi who never lets her close will also ruin her as well.
so how much of this event do i have to participate in to reap the rewards at the end? or does everyone get stuff no matter what? I like me some casual dominion, but it does get tiring after a while, especially with the lack of hero variety and afkers.
>>170069727
>>170069523
why are black raiders always the cringiest players?
>>170070116
>Who is Lion El Johnson
>>170069943
>>170070010
>this is what PKs actually believe
Space Marines are shit
Imperial Guard for life
>>170070008
dont all assasins have same health?
A fucking lvl 3 valk bot killed me 3 times before i could kill her once
Why am i so bad
>>170070116
>destroyed every kingdom
>surrounded by tens of thousands
how does this work
>half the primarchs needed help
All the others had already united their worlds. Dorn and Guilliman were already forming empires. Every single primarch took their planet in war before the crusade arrived.
>implying any loyalist primarch achieved anything except death or disappearance
Gulliman is back. They're all coming back.
>>170070010
Absolutely. As long as nobody sees you go into the crowd and don't lock on you'll blend right in. I've had cases where I'm mowing down soldiers and two enemies run straight past me.
>>170070370
It works, it happens every damn game.
>>170070030
>full sized fucking sword
but no, there shouldn't be a literally best class in the game.
all class categories should be standardized
True warriors sacrifice their enemies to the eldritch horrors beneath the sea.
>>170070408
>IG
>Dies to Devs with heavy bolters.
Yeah I wish people thought like you. Would save me tons of points off the actual strong Heavy Weapons.
>>170070504
I do this all the time as a Raider
>>170070094
Ohshit
>>170070462
>They're all coming back.
4 are coming black. 4 good and 4 bad that is.
Good is going to get the Lion and Russ, not sure who the fourth will be.
>>170070561
I do this as a Lawbringer. May your enemies lie broken beneath the waves, fellow servant.
>>170070462
>surrounded by tens of thousands
>how does this work
razing all the holdfasts and pillaging all the cities does not equal genociding the population
>Gulliman is back. They're all coming back.
wardfags out
>guilliman took his planet in war
lmao he was literally accepted by the nobles of macragge and given a gentleman's life
>my whole team isn't past level 10
>Enemy team is all prestige 5+ including some cheese wardens
>This happens
>"gg"
I'm beyond mad.
>>170070503
And PK isn't the best.
I'm simply saying her attack being faster makes sense.
>>170070030
Im actually ok with PK having the fastest attacks, what they need to do though is making everybodys guard switch the same speed as Warlord.
>>170070648
how is that even possible?
>>170068736
yes
you beat it by dodging backwards then rolling away
but shitters don't like that so they try to dodge sideways and get gbed
>>170070117
>No, she counters 10/11
this
>>170070662
Yeah I main PK and I 100% agree.
It's bull shit that come can't block fast enough considering block is the most important tool in the game.
>>170070675
As I said, my whole team being fresh beginners against seasonned veterans.
We got pushed back to the spawn
STOP GIVING ME NON VANGUARD ORDERS I WILL NEVER PLAY ANYTHING BESIDES KENSEI
>>170070772
>>170070629
Yeah man the guys that killed Konor peacefully joined Ultramar. They definitely weren't forced to come to heel in war.
>>170070596
>>170070596
>implying vulkhan doesnt live
>implying corax isn't still hiding
>implying dorn died on that ship.
>>170070759
You have to remember match making only puts people into a lobby before they pick a class.
You could have had a team of 3 rep 7 Wardens who all just so happened to try a new class at the same time.
>>170070057
Jesus Christ, according to that list Lawbringer is literally the worst character in the game.
>>170070759
you could've easily just ran past and capped their zone
you're just as bad
>>170070912
Yes, and?
>>170070629
He didn't do a very good job of pillaging and raiding if he left an entire army to surround and kill him.
>>170070892
>this meme persists
No, matchmaking goes to "Player Skill: All" every single one of my fucking games so clearly it has no interest in balance
>>170070659
objectively the best attacks in the game
orochi only has warden tier top\zone
berserker only has sides and his zone is crap
>>170070882
>Yeah man the guys that killed Konor peacefully joined Ultramar. They definitely weren't forced to come to heel in war.
and before that rowboat lived a life of ease in a nobleman's house and by the time it came to conflict he had an actual army to command, not a bunch of dying orphans and gladiators
>>170070892
Nah man I played with them and seen how they were, they were all clearly beginners
>>170070924
Nigger I barely spawned I was getting jumped on by a zerker and a warden, I couldn't run past shit if I kept getting staggered
I just fucking love playing some lvl 1 hero and shitting on some reps above 3 that just rage quit after losing 2 rounds in a row
>>170070953
I don't know. I've had some success with him, I'm not sure he's as bad as that list would suggest.
>>170070978
how would you suggest going about purging an entire planet of life with 100 people using roman-era weapons
>>170070882
Thing is Games Workshop has said 4 are coming back from each side.
And Lion, Russ and Rowboat all make sense to be the ones who return.
The others might come back later, but in the cycle it's 4 from each side.
>>170070057
I would argue that Warden v Warlord favors Warden and Warlord v PK only favors WL slightly, especially if she doesn't fall for headbutt baits
Warden's also probably favored vs Shugoki, I never had a problem with that matchup because the lights are so quick to break armor
>>170071034
>pick roach for the first time ever, lvl 1
>have to fight against honor 3 roach
>just block and dodge
>3-0
I would've loved to see his face.
>>170071038
he's just Warlord without the good parts
How bad is /tg/ still?
Trying to talk 40k there sucks now
>>170070892
Sure, but that is how match making works.
>>170071000
>ah man I played with them and seen how they were, they were all clearly beginners
That is unfortunate then.
>>170070992
The point is that his achievements speak for themselves. He won. Angron didn't. He built. Angron didn't.
>>170071000
you're bad, stop making excuses
>>170070982
>best attacks in the game
>In a game about defense.
Even if that was true it wouldn't fucking matter. Classes that block and parry will always be the better classes.
Any Kensei experts here who can tell me what to expect vsing a peacekeeper? Is it normal to lose most of the time? She's just so hard to keep up with
>>170071224
All classes can block and parry anon :^)
>>170071038
He's not terrible. Problem is too many people play him offensively.
>>170071258
Punish the bitch when she runs away with skull splitter
>>170071224
yes, she has the best attacks in the game, that go through defense in a game about the defense. its the problem you dip.
>>170071148
yet he couldnt even beat angron in single combat while angron was dying of a brain aneurysm from the nails the emperor refused to remove
>>170071260
But not all classes follow up well.
>>170071324
What the hell are you talking about?
The ONLY attack she has that goes through defense is the bleeding stab which you can only get after using a heavy.
>>170071360
Good thing wars aren't just a series of 1v1s
Russ should have gunned him down when he had the chance.
>>170071360
>>170071148
Primarch fags are in this General too?
The cancer that ruins 40k lore
>>170071221
Are you able to perform the basic human task of reading?
Me being bad is the whole gist of it: we were clearly outmatched.
>>170070057
People complain that her attacks are unreactable but Tru3ta1ent, which this general considers trash for some reason, was parrying PKs all day yesterday, including the second quick attack after a wiffed first and her zone. People are just too slow and bad to play against PK so they complain.
>>170071360
Doesn't matter anyway. Rowboat wasn't the 1v1 combat guy.
That was always Russor the Lion
>>170071451
>implying 30k isn't the only good part of 40k lore
>implying primarchs aren't integral to 30k lore
>>170071451
>The base of every Marine chapter
>Ruins the Lore
What.
>>170071538
Horus Heresy is fucking terrible
The power level shit the MY PRIMARCH CAN BEAT YOURS ruined /tg/ for me
>>170071528
>That was always Russ
who also lost to angron
reminder in the canon the only primarch anyone thought had a chance of beating angron was sanguinius, even horus didn't want to fight 1v1
As a Warden, what is the best way to open up a Conquerer? Shoulder bash? GB spam? Pulling the plug on my ethernet cable? Calling the FBI?
whfags should leave
>>170071404
what are YOU talking about?
play the game for more than a day.
How the FUCK can some people even suck in dominion
>>170071651
Have you tried expressing your feelings through song?
>>170071034
>mastery 5 pk
>i'm a mastery 1 kensei
>make him ragequit
>>170071097
>level 3 orochi
>against a mastery 2 orochi
>shit on him
>>170071258
try and bait them into dodging with your overhead unblockable, and then react to it
i struggle too cause i'm retarded and struggle to block fast enough, but you just play like you would vs anyone else: react to what they are doing appropriately
>>170071641
Except certain primarchs are better at certain things than others. Some will beat some and lose to others. That's how balance works.
>>170071659
Kill me pete
>>170071480
you're telling me you're incapable of disengaging from a fight
yes you're fucking bad
>>170071648
But Angron was being enhanced by rage nails.
So Robbie rotten is a viking
>>170071651
Just side step the Bash and laugh.
>>170071662
But that's actually her only unblockable attack.
Like that's not even a joke. that' it.
>>170071793
>enhanced
>constantly destroying his nervous system
>clouding his judgement
>preventing him from being able to capitalize on the primarch's natural tactical prowess
k
Seeking dedicated Raider on PS4. I want a real fight.
>>170071781
Alright.
>>170071836
>>170071881
youre an idiot.
>>170071729
regarding the webm, can you really just block a pk into a GB? or did she fuck up her tech
and what was the second strike? a block into a side dash light? I dont play kensei but im trying to learn any info on PK that I can
>>170070892
I bought the game a week after realease and got matched regulary agaisnt prestige 3+ right from the start.
>>170071729
Yeah Kensi is pretty great against PK when they are good at blocking.
>>170071893
You can say all that about Chaos's touch but it still enhanced them in combat.
You also have to consider the "good" guys weren't giving it there all as it wasn't in there nature to hurt a brother like that.
Same reason the Emperor and Lion got beat by people touched with chaos.
>>170071975
Wow, you got me so good.
I guess your lack of any proof is enough.
I guess the fact that her move pool only lists the follow up bleeding stab as her as the only unblockable attack just isn't good enough for you.
>>170071836
We Are Number One But When They Say Number One It's RAIIIIIDEEEEER and LEGENDARY when?
>>170071994
she fucked up
>>170071651
Do some bash mixups and hope you win the guessing game. If he is playing Conq properly and rarely attacks, playing completely passive and safe, you will not open him up any other way. He will rarely even try to parry because it is not worth the risk of getting opened up through a mixup when you can play completely safe. He will only attack with an iframe sidedash into shield bash into an attack if it connects, and otherwise just sit and wait.
>>170071994
you maintain your guard as you dash, and you can dash guard break any attack as kensei provided your guard is in that position before you dash
in the webm i just guard broke her straight up and she didn't reverse it, and the dash was just me dash attacking to the side with my guard up
>>170072000
chaos renders you immortal potentially, the nails kill any human eventually
there was literally no reason for the emperor not to remove them from angron's head except he was upset that angron said "no" to his offer
oh wait all the other primarchs who said "no" had a second chance or the emperor did something to convince them and they ended up receiving the emperor's aid anyways
Anybody with a Halo emblem here? I tried making some of the symbols but it always ended up being impossible because there are too little layers and/or shapes
>>170072168
But that doesn't change the fact that they enhance you in CQC.
Sure it would eventually kill a human, but it still made him stronger and dulled his senses in a fashion that made him better at up close combat.
nigger there are so many attacks that just ignore my guard, it's not normal at all
>>170072148
>0:10 no longer in the game
>>170071836
Here's a little lesson in plundery
You are a Raider LE-GEN-DA-RY
So the Lawbringer can become invinsible now
Does Orochi have an outfit/ornament style like Tozen? Dude looked like a legendary samurai should.
>>170072321
In this episode of Lawbringers - cops go deep undercover
>>170072326
>putting the words "Tozen" and "legendary" in the same line of the same post
you're basically begging to be memed
>>170072357
It's almost like I did it intentionally.
>>170072321
Still low tier senpai
>>170072148
do you fein into side dash?
>>170072376
>everyone implying that the new girlyman just isnt alpharius
What the fuck is all this 40k garbage? Piss off.
Can Lawbringer please get a decapitation execution? That axe is too shiny not to use for its intended purpose.
>>170072471
Naw Cypher is with him. Cypher would never work with Alpharius.
>>170072479
What is with all these beserkers in duel mode.
Begone!
>>170072321
french homosexual gay faggot
>>170072610
I'm as much as 40K fag as anyone else but there's a time and place for this shit.
>Come back after a month
>Game is still hot garbage and every duel is peacekeepers and warlords
What does it mean when my amount of steel is blinking?
How do you beat warlord/conq turtles as raider? Is it even possible? I feel like even played perfectly you can only slowly chip them down with 1 hit light attacks making the fight last 20 minutes
>>170072507
Decap executions are so fucking tasteless though. First thing I spent Steel on was getting Attitude Adjuster for Warlord.
>>170069885
>parrying an 18 frame zone attack with indicator flicker from neutral
>>170072746
I've just had Impaler and Back Breaker for so long, they became boring. And my only other options are gut stab and butt stab. It'd be nice to take a head for once. I'm sure there will be more emotes, executions, mood effects, and ornaments. Just waiting and saving steel until that day, I guess.
>>170072746
Warden's spinning decapitation is pretty ill though.
Only the best for posterboy.
>>170072737
Poke'em with feints.
It sucks I know but it's the best you can do, Raider isn't the best character right now.
>>170072878
It's also fast as fuck, which is always a bonus.
>>170072737
>how do you beat the best character in the game as the worst character in the game
>>170072675
At least its less roleplaying erping faggots, i prefer our god emperor overlord.also black templars a best
>>170072421
in the pk webm i feint my overhead and dash after, but you can catch people out by doing a hard cancel into side dash
but... i dunno, it's risky. you catch someone out with it once, and then after you just get parried.
I don't think I've ever had someone run away to get powerups at the beginning of an Elimination match that wasn't a roach. What's up with that.
I don't think this is supposed to happen
>>170073036
It doesn't matter what it is. I'll take baa :3 and Lewdkeeper over literally off-topic discussion.
>>170073182
They struggle more then most in 1v1.
And they have the fastest disengage.
>>170072905
The issue with that is they never parry or even attempt to. They just block in that direction. If I feint nothing happens. If I don't they block and then gb fuck me. I thought this would do it too but reason why they should ever go for a parry with their low block change frames.
I thought trying to mix lights mid heavy but they can switch guard faster than my light can come out so that doesn't work either.
If I turtle them they just never attack and if I do happen to get a parry they are often out of range for GB so I can only follow up with 1 light hit. This is the only way I've been able to damage them.
>>170072970
Sorry for trying to git gud without giving up
>>170072675
Which heroes do you most often find are played by people with the best attitudes? Which are played by those with the worst attitudes?
I need to do an order to play 8 duels with a friend, but I have no friends.
Anyone from here want to team up? I'm on PC.
>>170073267
try to open them up with zone as raider, thats the only tool you have
>>170073345
>worst
Definitely peacekeeper players
>best
Lawbringer
>>170073345
>worst
Pk and roach
>best
none
I remember a time when Peacekeeper would try to get Lawbringer to notice her. Now it seems Lawbringer can't help but notice her.
>>170073345
kenseis are the best bros, always stay for multiple matches and talk about tactics and want to try different things
worst are any of the top no skill spammers who have massive egos and talk shit
>>170073267
Start an heavy attack and cancel it into a light.
It stun them as well, that's what I meant with "poke'em with feints"
just answer me one question
why can everyone spam at me and I cant do shit but block or parry (lol ye right), but when im spamming they are interrupting it ASAP?
also, is game already dead? it takes forever to find game. NAT green, english region
>>170073184
They look dangerous! These aren't regular bots, these are SS tier bots. Just look at that intimidating pose.
>mood effects
>>170073530
what hero are you playing
what hero are they playing
>>170073530
you can see how popular the game mode you are trying to find a match in, if its low activity then yeah it might take few minutes
>>170073492
I must befriend a Kensei, then. It'd be nice to have another person to duel with and master our heroes/
>>170073345
Peacekeepers and orochis are definitely the worse.
It's strange but it's even worse when they're french, almost all my bad experiences from this game come from the french.
I struggle more against high level bots than other players.
>>170073574
I'm with you. Should have been blood dripping from the blade or maybe some sort of eldritch aura.
>>170073267
>Sorry for trying to git gud without giving up
well, play at least twice as good as them, maybe youll have a fighting chance.
>>170073636
dont fight against AI, you learn wrong kind of patterns
>>170073636
they literally read your inputs so that's no surprise
they also do things at random which will throw you off for no reason
>>170073345
>worst
PK, Warlord
>best
Everyone in this game is a piece of garbage with overinflated ego. The attitudes are a different degree of bad.
What is an unbiased, objective tier list for every character based on gameplay only, so no putting a character higher up for looking cool.
Also, keep 'theoretical' dueling to a minimum. I want a tier list based on the cold, hard facts. Of course you can outplay an opponent with any character in certain scenarios, but exceptions should not be considered when making your list.
As a Lawbringer main, I will still resign him to the lowest tier because I realize while I may get wins and outplay people, it is much harder to do so with Lawbringer than it would be with Warden or such.
>>170073345
worst pk\roach
best law\kensi
>>170073720
>everyone is an asshole
found the asshole guys
>>170073736
Shit tier:
The character I playand Lawbringer
Top tier:
The characters that beat mebut not Lawbringer
>>170073736
there are tiers but thats all and yes lawbringer is bottow tier but so is raider
>>170073736
If I recall correctly the top 5 for 1v1 according to the devs was
Warlord
Warden
Conq
PK
Kensi
But I might be mistaken.
>>170073858
winrates dont give a correct idea because whatever class seems cool or easy will have the most shit players
>>170060448
Is it physically possible to block valkyrie light attack spam? it's like PK but with range
>>170073858
>Kensi
>good in 1v1
what
All fucking day
I've had THOSE fucking teams
The type of teams that farm minions in mid or afk on the cap
that then leave their team to 3v4 or even 2v4 if there's 2 of the pricks playing together
The to top it all fucking off like a bit shit on an ice cream
Every fucking match I've played today
Around 9 or so
Has kicked me out at the fucking end of the round
So i have to suffer the entire fucking match
The I get no fucking reward or xp for it
Fuck off
>>170073345
The only nice Peacekeepers are the sexual deviants who instead of complaining instead turn it into a domination thing when they die.
Orochis are always faggots.
>>170073748
>Lawbringers
>Not the SFIV Dan players of For Honor who deflect every death on anything but themselves
>>170073665
>>170073691
So I should not fight against AI to practice??
>Higher eliminations and objective counts
>Still have a lower score than someone else
Is there something I'm missing in dominion?
>>170073940
Then how do you propose we figure this out?
The only objective answers we have are win rates.
>>170073946
its possible but when it comes to any light attacks you have to be looking for it, meaning you have to predict that what they will do and for that you have to learn the fighting patterns people follow
>>170073983
it'll just teach you some really weird habits
for one, being able to trick people with feints/mixups is a big deal, but bots will never ever fall for stuff like that
>>170073996
Stand on the objective.
1 point every second.
That's the fastest way to earn points in that game mode.
Remember to respect your fellow duelists. If they seem to be using the same technique over and over, teach them to use their full repertoire. If they do not understand a basic game mechanic, show them how to do it through repeated practice. Communicate so everyone learns something each match and above all, be kind.
Have a good day, anons, and good luck.
>>170073983
only fight AI to warm up or learn the basics
>>170073998
only count the very top end players
>>170073996
You get more points for eliminating someone on a streak.
So if I eliminate 3 that has a streak of 2-3 kills i get more points than you if you eliminate someone that hasn't killed anyone.
>>170074083
Oh.
I thought the game was basically telling me "nah m8 you're playing this mode wrong" by giving me a bad score
>>170073508
Sorry to be a dick but that's what I meant when I said they just change guard to block upper before my light can come out. I'll fake heavy right and cancel into light and they just block up before it hits.
Their guard change is way faster than my mixup and they never fall for it. I just played 2 games in a row vs a conq and warlord and neither of them missed the block on it once the entire fight.
What I'm taking away from this is that it's literally almost impossible to win at the moment until balance changes. Just though there might be something I didn't know.
>>170073345
Never met an angry Shugoki so far
>>170073196
Then you're a permavirgin like them that needs to fetish video games rather then talk about the meta.
>>170074170
every class has different way to earn extra points, check the move list page under renown
>>170074075
Special AI encounters against faction leaders should be a thing. Like periodic events that pit you against campaign bosses like Tozen, Apollyon, Gudmundyr, Stone, Holden Cross, Momiji, Okuma, Mercy, etc. Each of them being Level 5 bots.
>>170074109
Yeah then if we look at tournaments.
It's Warlord, Warden, Conq and PK.
And we don't see Raiders and Lawbringers so we can't accurately rank them.
>>170073367
whats your uplay
>>170074191
I played agains a team that had 2 of them and I called them Team Diabetes, one got super butthurt.
>>170074170
Yeah it's weird.
But it's pretty much impossible to get more points then standing on an objective.
Unless you're getting a Player Kill every 4 seconds.
>>170074191
I've seen a few upset at how under powered they are.
>>170074184
I have problems getting lights through against them too but I can still get some wins with just letting heavies go through and zone of course
with raider correct spacing is very strong because we usually lose in close quarters but can surprise people with the range of our heavies, solo or chains. just have to keep backing out once you land or not your hits and try again
>>170074383
Did you give him a hug to make him feel better?
>>170074276
The.Leviathan
>dueling nip
>he gets me good with gb spamming
>ok fine if thats how u wana be
>do the same the next two rounds except i ledge him
>he leaves the third round
Are there any more salty players than the zipperheads
>>170074407
Fuck no, I just kept insulting him for being fat.
>>170074191
Pretty hard to be angry when its a challenge to have the brain power to think.
>>170074271
thats all the information you need, which classes are over represented in tourneys, knowing if LB or raider is worse is meaningless, they are both bad atm and thats enough to know
>>170074020
oh so we have another PK tier hero who can just kill you by spamming lights
>>170074492
Eh, psychological warfare is a viable strategy against the hotheaded. He should have kept cool.
>>170074520
h-haha but PK is perfectly balanced. I would know, I'm a PK main!
>>170074509
>they are both bad atm and thats enough to know
Lawbringers are honorary vikings. Raider and LB bros4life.
>>170074520
yes that is correct, but they all have low health pool so if you manage to parry one of their lights they are probably dead
>>170074446
>he teaches you to play better and then leaves when his work is done
what a guy
>>170074509
Sure, but the OP asked for every character in the game.
And we can't figure that out with tourney lists.
>>170074446
>gb spamming
Haha how is that even a thing nigga like counter guard break like just press a button haha
>>170074580
That and fat people deserve every insult they get.
>>170074643
well we cant figure it out in any way unless we trust there is one pro player who is unbiased and give us the objective tier list
but it really doesnt matter and the original question was plain dumb
>>170074632
Which you have a 33% of chance of doing
>>170068632
LIGHT SPAMMIN'
>>170074501
not cool anon, I main Shugs...
>>170068757
>>170074623
Lawman here, accepting your offer of brotherhood, and denying your offer of honorary viking status. I'm no savage, friend.
>>170074764
the heavy you get out of one parry deals more damage than their 3 light attacks + you have a bigger health pool, do the math, the odds are on your favor
>Beat max. gear Warden as Raider
>He rages in chat
>Shortly after my internet dies
O-oh...I got a new IP just in case
>>170074831
Fair enough LBro.
>>170074764
and by parrying the wrong way, you lose more stamina than the valkyrie.
So 66% chance to lose both health and stamina, 33% chance to put two hits into a valkyrie.
>Ubishits and niggerfaggots think this is balanced
>>170068297
Orochi or Kensei
They always have some folder'over'100'times superiority complex that causes them to alt-f4 because they can't bare to lose
>>170068757
>>170073975
Sorry you had a bad experience, but I have yet to meet a Lawbringer who wasn't bro tier.
Playing a shitty character must make you humble.
>>170074872
>Playing the class considered to be the most OP by the player base at large
>Using IP switches to win
Jesus Christ how can one man be so bad.
>>170074221
You are literally off-topic, fuck off to /tg/.
>Lawbringer main trying to level Kensei
>Now I find out that Kensei is apparently another shit tier character
Does anyone else gravitate toward weak characters for some reason? In every game, I gravitate toward them. Must be hipster blood.
>>170073657
>maybe some sort of eldritch aura
That's what Darkness is for.
>>170075124
Kensei is great, gut gud
>>170075124
decent people tend to cheer for the underdogs
If you kill somebody and you have the firewings, they WILL get mad.
>>170061812
>>170061840
Fixed the audio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9eqkXdiR90
>Two days ago, green NAT
>Internet gone during a round, get thrown out
>Start back up, yellow NAT that didn't go away
>Fast forward to a few hours ago
>Internet gone during a round, get thrown out
>Start back up, green NAT
Computers amirite
>>170075131
I mean an aura with eyes and teeth. Like some otherworldly monstrosity has possessed you.
>>170075172
I AM good with him for a beginner.
I'm not saying Kensei is bad, I'm saying that he is lauded as 'poor man's Warden' and 'A shittier Orochi' and shit like that.
>>170075208
nothing gets people more mad than riding the lightning as raider after beating them
>>170073574
>he doesn't like thesickdarkness effect
No, you are disgusting for not having taste.
>>170075124
Kensei isn't shit tier.
He's just not OP.
He's arguably the most balanced class in the game.
>>170075124
I gravitate towards what's cute. Peacekeeper is cute.
>>170075371
That's a really good hunter emblem, anon. I wish I had talent enough to make one.
>>170075172
hes not great
if youre great with him, fight me (in a bit)
>>170075306
>and 'A shittier Orochi' and shit like that.
Orochi is much worse then Kensei.
He's just better at noob stomping.
post emblems ya twitsI'll never stop mobile posting sue me
>>170075432
An other anon made it and shared it.
>>170075409
>Poor man's Warden
It's not balanced if there is an objectively better in every way version (Warden) of your character.
Just like Shugoki is an objectively better version of Lawbringer.
Better tools.
>>170075498
Still need to make a 4rth.
>>170075438
Get gud at mind games. Kensei has so many feint options in his combos.
>>170075498
>socialist emblem
Anon pls
>>170075421
>A common whore that probably beds farm animals in her off time
>Cute
>>170075208
Every time? It doesn't upset me much.
>>170075558
Yeah, and every single one of his feints can be reacted to easily. By the time he feints, you will see it and still be able to cancel your parry and counter whatever he has queued up next.
They really need to tweak the times or at some attacks that are unparryable but still blockable.
>>170075571
Built for sex.
Give me one good reason to play anybody other than Warden, Valkyrie or an Assassin who have the fastest attacks in a game where reactions are everything.
The weebs are at it again! Stop them. They are spreading their soy all over the map.
>>170075536
You're over blowing it though.
He has a bunch of other functions that are not like a warden.
They are just both Vangaurds so you think they have the same kit.
>>170075626
also he cant feint fast enough against pk'orochi
they just attack when they see the feint and you get hit
>>170075421
>Going for the triple stab
>>170075821
Umm, Warlord is a good reason I guess.
Considering he's on par if not stronger then the Warden.
>>170064813
>>170064624
I can agree, but you never see PK's play like this, Its always Light spam while spinning the stick. Sucks because I play Kensei so my attacks are free deflects but 9/10 of them never even try.
>>170075836
What does Kensei have that warden doesn't?
the only thing he technically has is the side dodge attack
The side dodge attack that's unsafe on block, easily parried and blocked with a free GB if you do block it.
Kensei has one mixup that's also very slow, easily read and parried by anyone who has played long enough.
>>170075924
You should always triple stab unless in range of a wall
the only way to properly balance this game is to make all guard stance switching times uniform among the whole cast, that way assassins (namely PK) can't just spam lights and spin the stick to win
Can Kensei block while he's dodging?
I saw a video of someone dodge with their guard in the direction of the enemy attack and he seemed to block/deflect it a bit as he dodged.
What is the practical use of this?
>>170076041
Play against Lewdkeeper. Yeah they'll use the zone cancel from time to time but they always attempt a deflect and can actually parry.
See
>>170063161
>>170076075
Again, you're taking the over powered warden, and wondering why a more balanced and skill based class is out classed by him.
Once the Warden isn't over powered he will better find his role.
>>170076107
Naw man, if you're low on stam it's much better to send them away so you can take a breath.
PK's without stam die fast.
>>170076208
>Play against Lewdkeeper
I'm a PS4 fag
>>170076308
no she fucking doesnt, she dashes faster than a lot of characters can spring
>>170076308
Ha...hahah...HAHAHAH
Are you SERIOUS?
There is practically no penalty to stamina loss because you can dodge, block and parry no problems. If you're a PK you especially have it easy when recovering stamina, just dodge back.
Have the drawfags been banned? They're all gone
>>170076308
This is the fucked up counterlogic I would expect from a PK main.
>>170076308
>PK's without stam die fast.
what if they just mash backdodge
You can't even sprint up to them
who /jugglemaster/ here
>>170076348
Different anon, but PSN? I play Lawbringer and would like to get some duels in with a Kensei main. Need to learn to deal with feints and fast lights.
>>170076409
Probably, these retarded faggots mass reported even the guys writing stuff for people. This is sewious bidness town obviously.
>>170076208
>Play against Lewdkeeper.
I've been trying to, but never manage to get the cum deposit.
>>170076308
>>170076379
>>170076382
>>170076436
>>170076438
I guess on an open map you guys are right.
I was thinking about the confined Duel maps which punish you for trying to back away.
>>170076501
I wonder where they are nowThe discords?
>>170076486
Hoodedvenom
>>170076515
The best way to get in contact with LK is the Knight Discord.
>>170076539
You know at some point, there stops being a difference between pretending to be retarded and actually being retarded.
You cannot punish an out of stamina PK at all. They can dodge, block, and parry just fine. All the classic ways to bully someone who's out of stamina suddenly become impossible.
Want to hit them with an unblockable 50/50? PK just dodges away.
GB? She just stops dodge spamming when you get close and techs it.
Normal attacks? Blocked or dodged.
>>170076697I have no clue how discord works. I've tried to use one multiple times, but it just goes above my head. It's like with Twitter, I have no fucking idea how that shit works.
>>170076668
Noted. I'll send you a friend request when I get home from work. Don't have a mic, by chance, do you?
>>170076770
It's literally just an IRC chat my man.
>>170076780
course I do, I like chatting up
not your typical /vg/ autist
alirght im out seeya later
>>170076838
Have fun.
>>170076705
Being backed into a corner does greatly limit your ability to defend yourself in duels.
Sure you can block, but when you're facing classes Warlord/Warden and friends if you don't have the space to back away the unblockable rushes will get you.
I do admit I was wrong when you consider most maps.
I'm just used to fighting Warlords in small spaces which is really bad for a PK who's out of stam.
>>170076770
His username is "[PC] Lewdkeeper#4918"
I kept his I'd because I'm not even jokinghe's the best ERP partner I've ever had.
why am I so shit /fhg/?
I feel like I can't even get the basics down sometimes, 1/2 of my 'parries' end up as attacks and i get a sword to the face anyway
>>170076998
Just practice, man. You'll get it down.
>>170076945
>>170076945
Why would you pay money for this game just to ERP as a whore peacekeeper?
Like..just do it on the internet for free? At some point you're basically trolling yourself.
>>170076945
remove erp
Anyone else successfully feint in the heat of battle only to panic during the parry timing and get hit by their heavy anyway?
>>170077113
He bought the game because he likes it, the whole ERP thing is just a little side kink of his.
We're coming for you, kangs.
>>170077178
But he doesn't even play the game. He just sits there. Why would you choose a competitive third person fighting game to act like that?
>>170077074
What is this trying to convey?
>>170077245
I hope this is true. Filthy criminal barbarians don't deserve to live.
>>170077163
fucking up a read is absolutely infuriating, yes
Raider's zone should not be interruptable by lights when you are a least mid way in
>>170077262
He does play, he got bored with the passive thing so now he just smut talks during round down time
>>170076308
Nah you're wrong. There's an exploit that prevents assassins from being knocked down when out of stamina.
>>170077314
>give an unblockable hyperarmor
that might be a bit too much considering it's one of the heaviest hits in the game if you chain into it
>>170077412
Really now?
What exploit is this?
>Every single game of versus AI dominion is has 1-3 afk farming niggers in it
>EVERY.
>SINGLE.
>ONE.
>Notice that I sometimes I get host from them
>Alt+F4 my For Honor program, knowing that the games shoddy peer-to-peer netcoding cannot transfer host to the AFK faggots, crashing their game and putting them to AFK in the main menu
Retribution.
>>170077451
It's also hecka parrybait
>>170077245
>we're going to take your territory when there is 11 days left in the faction war
ok, do it?
New thread when?
>>170077467
Devs made an update saying that starting next week they will have tools in place to punish this via bans and such.
>>170077458
It's an assassin-exclusive bug.
>Assassin is out of stamina
>Mash guard-switching
>Enemy guardbreak-throws
>Assassin never falls over like they're supposed to when out of stamina
>>170077451
if you can't parry raider's unblockable you deserve to get hit by it, hyper armor or not.
>>170077580
Neat, never knew that.
YOUR THREAD IS BREAKING
>>170077674
>>170077674
>>170064653
Which episode of wakfu or whatever is this from?
>>170077517
>>170077629
a feinted unblockable is a free GB 9/10 times against a good player since they'll either try to parry it or dodge
it might be a good balancing move, just don't know much about raider to say for sure
>>170077836
No, abandoning a game does not currently count against your W/L.
>>170074501
Roach players are salty all the time though.
>>170074809
>is that a mcdonalds emblem? Wait a second...
>mfw