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MRGLRGLGLGL

Play Cunnyverse

Status on the tourney?

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nth for reminder that golden cards give you better RNG, do not dust them

daed gaem

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>>170044491
if only, anon
if only

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...Bane?

>>170043592
Speakinh of which, which deck should I use for better farm? The bot is retarded with secret pally

>>170043776
Underrated post. The game is trash, new players shouldnt even bother

>>170042143
>I keep seeing people say Karazhan is more worth it than packs so maybe I'll get that.
Adventures have a slightly better gold/dust ratio than boosters, but a much better $/dust ratio, plus a few guaranteed staples like Maelstrom and Spirit Claws.

>>170045702
Last expansion was not only horribly bad, but also commited a lot of it's resources to support archetypes that are just rotating out.
New players can't really do much with cards that works only in reno/dragon decks. That's the fucking worst thing.
Fucking meme streets could just move into wild with 2015 expansions.

If I buy the first wing of BRM and LoE can I still buy the rest of it with gold once it's out of rotation?

And will it still award cards?

>>170046578
Yes (also with cash), and yes. I just spent 700 gold on BRM just for this purpose, just in case something in it ever becomes really fun/broken for wild play.

>>170046236
>Last expansion was not only horribly bad, but also commited a lot of it's resources to support archetypes that are just rotating out.
Also self-contained archetypes like Jade, which will never get another ounce of synergy. At least with Reno, there's always a hope that the next set will replace him, and that they're just waiting because they don't want them both available in standard at the same time.

>>170043816
reminder if you have finja to put the water package in your decks and splash up the ladder while the meme's still spicy.

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>>170045702
I really enjoy the game so far and I want to keep enjoying it, there just don't seem to be any great options for brand new players like me aside from the welcome bundle, which I already took advantage of.

>>170045951
I'm just not really sure how to optimize the dust or what to use it on, and it's kind of a turn off when I hear the content isn't that great, rather it just has great value once you destroy it.

I guess if I had a good idea as to what I wanted to do it would be a different story but I'm still very much learning. I've been playing less than a week.

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What do you think it smells like?

>>170047547
whats wrong with his right hand?

>>170047547

>tfw you know the smell because you did work experience at an elderly support home

it's not great, and men at 90+ are still horny cunts

>>170047769
massive knuck

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Random.

>>170047547
Lena Dunham's pussy.

>>170047330
There are not any and there never will be. They want you to cough up those $500 dollary doos

>>170047330
Karazhan is the worst of the 4 adventures, but it still has a number of good cards. I think every class got something decent. Even if many don't see play in meta decks, you can still make effective use of them.

Any reveals since announcement?

>>170047330
I would wait until the next set comes out before spending any dust. After a few weeks and the meta settles down a bit look for high performing decks that aren't very expensive and save for those.

>>170050709
adapt your murlocs

>>170050749
With the way they're nerfing who knows. Just last week Finja became a thing and the set has been out for like what 3 months?

>>170053104
Paladin is going to get only murlocs for class cards this time, isn't he?

>>170053462
Finja became a thing because some pros used it in tournaments. Ladder is way different from tournaments, namely because there are decks other than shaman and reno mage.

Give me a quick rundown on the NA tournament so far

should I still put STB in my miracuru deck?

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>>170053897
>shaman banned in every match
>it's a reno mage, pirate warrior, finja fuckfest
>inept pointless casters

I'm not even watching and I know, anon.

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>controlling the match entirely with my basic shitty lock deck For 99% of the match
>opponent summons sylvanias followed by two other legendary cards
>lose

So do I need like half a dozen legendary cards in my deck to be even close to being viable at a certain point? This is how most of matches have been going in ranked since I started going below rank 22.

It's just stupid how these cards completely fucked me so effortlessly, after I dominated the entire match, when I have no access to similar cards as a beginner.

Why the fuck are these people so low ranked with their stacked decks?

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>>170054364
>Pirate warrior and finja
>With patches, STB, and warleader banned

LOL friend, you don't know the half of it

>>170054457
People will argue that Hearthstone isn't pay to win but Legendaries remain deck defining with powerful effects which literally aren't printed on other cards.

Hearthstone only got bearable for me when i lucked on a trash golden legendary and dusted it for something competitive.

As for being low ranked, it's the start of a new month, give it time for the ranks to level out as people grind ladder.

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real men play hearthstone.

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Can someone explain why players that have hit legend start each month any lower than rank 10? Why would you have clearly experienced people with a lot of cards go down anywhere even remotely close to scrubs and new players? Every month. Every single month. Who does this benefit? How do the strong players benefit from starting so low on the ladder so often and having to climb all the way back up through nonmeta elo hell? And how do the worse players benefit from playing against really good people they obviously have no business playing against? You have to be a moron or a sadist to come up with this shit.

>>170054457
every deck should have 1-4 legos

>>170054457
>controlling the board for 99% of the match
You gotta learn when to go face instead of just trading into minions because all you're doing is stalling until your opponent gets to his good cards otherwise. Just think "what can happen if I don't kill this minion, does he get a favorable trade or be able to use a spell that he couldn't otherwise?", since half the game is knowing your opponent's deck.

>why are these people so low ranked
Blame Team5 and their shitty ladder system. At the beginning of every month the ladder resets and even Rank 21 gets filled with netdecks that homebrews never ever stand a chance against.

It just baffles me how they insist on making the game so new-player-friendly but it remains obvious they don't actually play the game and rely on community feedback from 13 year olds.

>>170054921
the thing is rank 20 even at the end of month is filled with bots on 1:1 netdeck renolock

>>170055495
Because then even the casual mobile players might notice the huge gaps between content releases / changes in hearthstone. You get put back to the start of the race so you keep running your hamster wheel without giving too much thought to what is going on.

>>170055558
They have this fantasy of the "returning player" that they don't want to turn away, too bad the ladder swings at the end of every season is causing them to hemorrhage new players hellgate:london style

>>170055576
it really sucks that i can do a little googling and literally call out every card my opponent is gonna play to the letter. Most of them don't even look at the fucking board, they just obsess over curving out.

>>170054921
>not p2w
only blizzdrones and legit shills will try to say this game isn't p2w. By nature of ot being a card game it's p2w. Also shills like to being up chinktrump being a f2p player. You literally need to make this your job to be a f2p player. Or get a clue and bot your games every day

>>170055793
same thing on tournaments too.
every deck in NA and EU is the same, at least chinks are teching some cheesy cards into them

>>170054921
Those people should be castrated, it couldn't be more p2w. It however still remains fun regardless.

At least is not crazy in thinking some of these decks are way too ridiculous for the rank I'm at, I thought I was just severely lacking cards, which is still true, but at least it'll calm down.

>>170055497
Well shit.

>>170055558
I know what you're saying but in I don't think there could have been a solution for this scenario.

Oh well, it's not like I haven't played mtg and felt the same thing. It's just annoying that they put these people with me, there has to be a better way.

so, I've asked s few times and people tell me Kara is better to buy than packs for the dust value.

there are definitely some cards I could use in there too but what are the safe cards to dust? Is there like a go to, agreed upon list of shitty cards I'll never need that I should disenchant?

If I decide to buy that is. Part of me is still tempted to try my luck on $20 worth of classic packs but no one seems to think that's a good idea.

>>170055576
Compared to the first week of a season when 4 out of 5 opponents are Tier 1/2 netdecks? Naw.

And you can't really blame them either, they just want to ladder out of the Rank 20 mud as fast as possible. It's the whole ladder reset system that's the issue, it desperately needs some fine tuning.

>>170056001
It kinda disgusts me that Blizzard expected a tournament meta to grow around this when they don't put anything in the client to support it at all. (e.g. modifiable banlists, client-supported brackets, streamer interfaces ala King of the Kill)

>>170055857
it is p2w, sure but you guys sound like you are expecting to hit legend with fresh account day1. there is literally not a single f2p that lets you compete from start unless its new.

>>170056271
its worse in $/dust ratio but the real problem is you might get 20 packs worth of expansion fillers and millhouse memestorm as your pity timer lego

>>170056271
>Is there like a go to, agreed upon list of shitty cards I'll never need that I should disenchant?

Nope, nobody can ever know what Blizzard decides to push in one of the future expansion leading to some cards from Kara or other now shit tier cards to be broken as fuck.

>>170056375
Not really. We're just opining on how Hearthstone is almost comically stingy, even by p2w standards.

f2p these days can expect upwards of a year + before they get even remotely viable, which isn't helped by Team 5's chronic balancing issues. At this point, it shouldn't even bother to present the f2p path in my opinion, as it literally is just 4 months minimum of being stomped with the tools to counter being dangled out of reach,.

>>170056694
>year+
well, that's actually true.
If you started around rotation

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Say your line hearthcucks

Why can't they do daily card reveals like before?
Now the hype is pretty much dead already because no reveals

>>170056517
I get that part I guess. part of me still has a hard time understanding how a beginner is going to get more value out of potential dust gain though. I mean, I don't even know what is worth dusting or crafting. There are definitely some cards out of Kara I could put to good use I'm sure but one of my issues as a beginner is just a general lack of cards in the first place, which is why just opening some packs sounds so appealing.

So for me, it becomes a question of do I want these predefined cards or an overall larger collection with the chance of some good cards.

Idk, I'm still new so maybe I'm missing the big picture.

>>170056562
Hmm well I guess things are always subject to change but people made it sound like the real value of getting Kara would be the dust so I have to imagine there are so safe bets as for as that goes.

>>170057030
Meta slowdown + no power creep guaranteed!

>>170057758
> people made it sound like the real value of getting Kara would be the dust
we're just salty because every other adventure introduced amazing legendaries and in Karazhan
Moroes was dusted by every poorfag the second they got him because of how bland, uninteresting and not good in general he is.
Barnes is good only because he can pull out a random 1/1 sylvana or ragnaros from your deck by pure rng
Curator is good but to get full value out of him you have to build your deck in very specific way which is going to be even harder once azure drakes and Finley rotate out, there is a chance we might get some interesting murlocs and dragons tho
Malchezaar is meme legendary which is really bad on paper unless you want to compete in fatigue every match or want to have fun with legendaries
Medivh is horribly slow and introduces even more rng to your deck, so only the greediest mages use him.
Neutral cards are mediocre, priest and warriors didn't get anything interesting.
On the positive note every other class got at least one very good card, and arcane giants are amazing as long as jades don't exist.

>>170055495
it benefits blizzard because it cripples the new player experience and they will be more likely to quit or open their wallet

What's a paladin deck that can actually win? I got a pally 3 wins quest. I swear to god this class is cancer tier garbage and can't for the fucking life of me cheese out 3 wins. I got one lucky win from some retard conceding instantly.

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>>170059308
the only half way competitive deck paladin has is anyfin can happen murlocs. personally i prefer aggro murloc pally.

>>170059308
Handbuff can rack up some wins if your draw is good
Or you can N'Zoth in Wild I guess

>>170059452
Does secret still work there?

>>170059483
yes

>>170059502
Jesus. I wish that meta was back. This is far, far worse.

>>170058449
Hmm, well I appreciate the breakdown, although I don't feel any closer to making a decision.

I feel like I going to be in the same rut of just not having any options no matter what I do, unless its dropping $100.

>>170059576
Do your dailies, open classic packs, play arena and brawls and try to have fun.
They will announce all the Un'goro cards before end of the month, if it's any good just preorder it.

>>170059502
it's worse than pirates, which are worse than reno
patron is really good for farming pirates and paladins

>>170059576
the decision is really safety vs risk

kara has some good cards to round out decks with even if they aren't like super overpowered cards, many cards are fair
for every class other than warrior and warlock theres some nice cards that are useable to run or upgrade your deck with, i think for starting out it should give some nice paths to explore

the experience should be pretty fun of doing the bosses and the class challenges, and you need kara anyway so you never go wrong with it basically, its a good baseline

as for the packs that would be the risk thing, the problem is that generally packs are just a bit unfavored so it's like playing the lottery, you are hoping to get lucky here which generally doesn't happen

also packs are kinda infinite but you only need kara once for a set price
after that the whole decision making shifts to packs and which pack you can even use collection calculators for and put in cards you value and which you don't, which cards you already have. you get an objective tool to decide what to do if you crave this kind of decision making

so i really think just get kara out of the way, it will feel the best in general. just for the fun and hours of beating the bosses it will justify the 20 bucks if you are a bit liberal with money

as for the dust, i really agree that is super tricky and generally i would not go into it like that, you will have to learn more about the game and doing a bad dust it's really terrible. i tried to look into dusting guides and even those aren't 100% where one meta some cards that become staples were on the dust list etc so that point is very true

something like a guide for legendaries might be more appropriate or ask here and people should give you advice. basically dont worry about the dusting right away just collect some cards first

also do the trump basic series it teaches a lot of concepts and has decks you can build and then you can increase their power from the cards you have on top of that

>>170059576
Dont listen to
>>170059862

Just walk away and never look back. You need to invest at minimum $300 if you want to not get steam rolled on ladder. There are better card games, just walk away lad

>>170059993
Why does he have to play ladder? He can play meme decks for fun

>>170059993
Modern masters soon. Good fucking stuff there. Linvala for christ sake

>>170060029
and pay 200+ on packs so he can he all the meme legendaries

>>170060029
We live in an age where if you have a f2p deck it's better to play Ranked than Casual, and those are kinda the only options

>>170059993
my friend that i introduced somewhat recently had the stuff he needed to build pirate warrior after a month-ish of playing and only buying the welcome bundle
budget hearthstone is completely doable, especially with the to-be-added login rewards on the horizon

>>170060095
>budget hearthstone is completely doable, especially with the to-be-added login rewards on the horizon
one un'goro pack has been added to your account

>>170060029
Go to sleep, ben. Even in casual you have botters playing pirate warrior.
>>170060045
This. It is a great time to get into mtg if you want to play a card game so bad

>>170060125
Cut out the extra step and just give him 40 dust

>>170060095
>login rewards
I wouldn't really be hype for 3 outdated packs and 3 Un'Goro packs though

It needed to be like 20 packs of your choosing to even be worth mentioning

>>170059993
no matter if you listen to me or to him, just don't throw your money away.
Your collection won't magically improve once you throw money at Brode, YOU WILL HAVE TO grind your way into this.
Even if you spend 300$ and craft the deck you want, it will get boring after a while, you craft Gromm, play with him for a month and then you need Tony for a mage deck.
Be patient, it will feel better this way.

I SERVE THE FIRELORD

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No free pack for you next week cause you are gonna get a lot of golden legendaries in the heroic tavern brawl. Make sure to have fun anons and dont forget to preorder the new expansion HAHAHAHAHA

>>170060224
>tales of a blizzard employee

No. Their goal is to get you in the game with nothing and tell you to "grind and just do your dailies :^)" Which assuming you have 8 spare hours a day will net you 1.5 packs. Which will frustrate you into spending money. HS follows a typical mobile game format which trys to frustrate you into spending money. Just vote with your wallet and tell them to fuck off until they improve the experience for new players

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>>170060362

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>>170060362
enough is enough ben

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anyone else /goldenrag/ yet? only a month until he stops being free

>>170060882
nope, don't wanna randomly open either one so waiting until more close to the deadline

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nice pack

>>170061270
YOU FACE JARAXXUS
EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION

>>170059941
MK thanks for the advice. If I decide to pull the trigger. It will be Kara and the I'll just keep using gold on classic packs

>>170061270
I got him from my welcome bundle. He's really satisfying to use and win with.


OBLIVION!!!!!

>>170061487
It's funny, because just that game before I complained about jaraxxus in a warlock vs warlock match

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>>170061552
>jaraxxus in a warlock vs warlock match

Did I hear "Sacrificial Pact value" ?

>>170061676
This is the biggest reason I play burgle rogue

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>Mulch 12/12 Edwin
>He gets Nefarian

>>170062272
HAHAHA
NICE STORY YOU SHARED WITH US

HAHAHA

>>170062272

>Play Dirty Rat on turn 2
>Pulls out Rag

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>8 Card in deck that can Draw Card
>Turn 9 and still didnt draw any of them

I really like this game

csgo and hots are back on

with pitytracker is it even useful to add in packs from screenshots that were ages ago or ones where i didn't capture all the packs but just some?
does that even make sense probably doesn't right?
just start adding any pack from now on and then eventually it will become useful

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http://www.gwentdb.com/news/64-10-000-gwent-beta-keys-giveaway-grab-yours-here

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>>170063216
>just start adding any pack from now on and then eventually it will become useful

Yes, It's also fun to look back in the future

Cunnyverse or Gwent guys?

>>170059941
Why is Karazhan needed? Just curios

>>170063348
ok i'll just start from here on into un'goro then, definitely seems fun

how do you enter them, do you have it open on the side and just enter as the game pops up the cards before moving to the next pack or do you take a set of screenshots and then add them from those after opening?

>>170063436
adventures are great value, there isn't anything better to spend gold.

>>170063278
>>170063403
Gwent is as fun as playing Shaman or Secret Paladin at their prime and most of the popular decks are literaly autopiloted

>>170063472
I just enter it as I open them, only takes a second per pack.

Given that Un'Goro is a completely new set you'll have accurate tracking starting with that set at least.

For classic and other (not that you should be buying older sets after reaching your last pity timer), the timers will become accurate after resetting them once

>>170063436
it all depends on what you wanna do with the cards so technically it's not needed

if you look at any of the serious decks though, they will run adventure cards because there's just some really good ones in there, you can only get those from adventures thus it's a need in that sense

like you can say ok i need 4 classes to play a tournament (or do well on ladder, or have fun), but i don't have LOE so obviously i can't run reno mage, lock or priest
well you can still play tempo mage right? that's kinda true but stuff like that will also have an adventure card. maybe one that is actually replaceable since reno in reno mage isn't replaceable and that would be true too i think

the point is that by just getting the adventure this constant running into some card to replace is just gone because you will have access to 100% of those adventure cards and you can focus on just the random stuff from the packs that you have

>>170063517
I guess if you have the gold, sure.

I can't help but looking at it from a paid content perspective. $19.99 seems like quite a lot.

>>170063436
>cancer or aids?

www.twitch.tv
/pokemontcg_eu
PogChamp

>>170063614
alright i'll just have to go for un'goro and enter them like that

i think the other trackers wouldn't be too off because 3-4 brawl packs orso ago i got a legendary there
and from msog i got a legendary in one of the last i opened and then stopped as well

>>170063907
I play the magic card Pot of Greed!

>Pirate warrior can still kill you on turn 4
Nice game hearthtards :^)

>>170064404
Just ramp to Reno bro

>>170064404
dude just close the game lol just walk away close your eyes lmao

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>>170064404
Don't worry senpai, Brode-chan will kill off the pirate decks soon.

>>170046236
After playing ~30 rounds of the Tavern Brawl, i'm honestly surprised at just how much of Gadgetzan is unusable garbage.

Worst part is some of them are actually good ideas, but are ruined by prohibitive mana costs. Defias Cleaner and Streetwise Investigator could have been such good tech cards.

>>170064917
>30 rounds
Man it only took me two games to see that 90% of the set is trash.

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>>170064404
Sure Brode, a 1 mana 1/1 charge minion that can be summoned on turn one doesn't sound that bad.

>hots now has a tournament server where they can use the delayed patch instead of the live patch
>ow has a custom server browser where you get xp too

>>170065328
>hots
they still haven't taken that down?

>>170065383
I hope they fucking did

>it's a lose your arena match because the shaman hit a 1/8 lighting storm episode
awesome

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play Hearthstone.

losing because your opponent randomly drafted and then drew the exact card he needed is super fun

this game scuuuucks

>throws every card that can be played on the field if it can be played
>only get bonuses from doing so
>wins within 6 turns

What class this?

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>2001+16
>STILL no End Turn hotkey
is the technology just not there yet???

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r8 my rogue saver

>>170065293
If you think it does it shows you need to tech in some elven archers.

>>170067876
Add a Cloak of Shadows that does the same for spells and I'm set. Like an 8-mana, combo Ice Block.

>>170067876
I just want a "your combos trigger twice" lego

Vanessa Van Cleef when

>>170067719
Midrange shaman, jade shaman, pirate warrior, jade druid with a good starting hand, rogue with a good van cleef starting hand.

>>170068027
Are you retarded? I said class and I mean hunter

>>170067985
>>170068001
I want it for maly rogue to be viable.

>>170066952
not until you buff raider

>>170067762
I wish the game would get proper keyboard and controller support.

Like holy shit it's infuriating how the client is so barebones so its a guarantee it will never happen.

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is /hsg/ a bad influence?

>Went to rank 10 with pirate Warrior in wild without losing a single match
>got 8 friend requests
>even played against the same paladin three times back tot back with my hand staying exactly the same each match
>killed most ppl at turn 4
>feelsgoodmane

Today was a good day

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>expansion announced
>thread up for 10 hours
>150 replies
ima go play some Seraph over at svg. smell your rotten corpses later

>>170064404
>>170068745
Daily Reminder that every class in the meta are losing most of their cards except pirate Warrior lmao

>>170068745
do you feel in charge now?

Within my last 20 matches playing cthun druid, I made it to turn 10 around 30% of the time and getting to play cthun only 1 match. 90% of the matches were lost. Great game

>>170068745
Have you discovered who goes thar?

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I'm honestly starting to hope I just get a permanent Hearthstone ban for botting.

I don't and haven't enjoyed Hearthstone for over 90% of my time spent on the game. The only exception was during LOE and the skinnerbox dopamine kicks during new set pack openings. Only to turn into massive disappointment and regret when you opened garbed the majority of the time.

I play rocket league because I like playing rocket league, I play overwatch because I like playing overwatch, I play other games because I'm having fun playing the game.

I play Hearthstone because I need to do my quests to keep up my gold to get a chance of improving my collection.

>>170069123
>didn't drop overwatch after the first month
fuckin' hell

>>170069123
if its choice you want give me your password and tell me to disenchant everything until you have 0 dust 0 gold. Its a good first step if you want to stop your addiction

>>170069235
I'm currently just playing custom overwatch games now and then. Mostly 500% 0 cooldown games where I can fly around the map as junkrat using the mine as propellant and bomb.

>>170069235
it's a really good game though you stupid loser

>>170069235
>>170069294
>>170069415
>they bought overwatch
enjoy casualised cs

>>170069472
*tf2

>>170069561
*first person LoL

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>>170069123
>>170069235
>>170069294
>>170069415
>>170069472
>>170069561
>bought Overwatch when it was on sale in November
>played ~30 hours
>haven't touched it in months

a) name a game that gets stale more quickly than Overwatch.
b) name a game that has more tryhard 12 year olds role playing as lesbian Brits

protip: you won't.

Why spend money on OW when Paladins exists?

>>170069694
Hearthstone

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>>170069694

>tfw you own 2 copies of ow
you jelly poor heartbabbs? maybe if your game wasn't so expensive you could enjoy like me too xD

>>170069694
Hearthstone

what if the average hearthgoy just has a shitty pc because they haven't been able to save up for a new one?
is it really their fault?

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>Spend 100 bucks on Hearthstone

>>170069694
Hearthstone

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>>170069694
>Have to spend 150 bucks per set to get the right core cards while the rest is garbage
>Meta is stale cancer within a day

I don't know my man

>>170069694
Hearthstone

>make a new account
>shit tons of players with legendarys in the 25-20 rank
>auto concede pretty much 75% of games
>go back to old account

How do people even get into this game now a days?

>>170068895
Are you the same guy asking for help? still need?

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>Got the play 75 murlocs quest

It's genna be a fun day

>>170070652
they don't

>>170070652
SV give more than 50 packs to newplayers just by downloading the game

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>Win 3 Game
>Lose 2 Game
>Win 3 Game
>Lose 2 Game
>Win 3 Game
>Lose 2 Game
>Win 3 Game
>Lose 2 Game
>2 Hour passed
>Gained 1 and a half rank, Today was good

>>170070745
But you can't let anyone see you playing it otherwise you end up on a pedophilia watchlist.

>>170070652
I get mad and shitpost how much of a pay2win game this is and leave after my daily quest

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>>170070652
>go hunter
>use all your charge cards
>win games even though you have only basic cards

On he plus side you tend to make people mad when you beat them using the cards you start the game with

>get a good hand
>the guy immediately concedes before I get to do anything

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>Try to play a whacky lock & load secret hunter
>Lose

Ha ha ha great stories to tell your friends

>>170070872
>20 games in 2 hours

I fucking wish.

>>170068925
What is Jade Druid losing?

>>170072316
The game vs pirate warrior

>Hunter rare spell

>Intimidating shout
>2 mana spell
>Give your beasts+1 attack this turn only, give enemy minions stealth

Will this bring hunter back?

>>170046827
>Also self-contained archetypes like Jade, which will never get another ounce of synergy.

>the game is boring and the meta is stale
>I know, lets make archtypes that can't change for the next year and a half in standard!

Ban and co. are literally retarded and proof that you can get rich and success if you're just lucky enough.

>>170068692
Only if you take it seriously

>>170056271
Kara is basically only for Maelstrom and Firelands portal. Giants are meme, legos are shit used for meme.
Claws was nerfed.

>>170073128
How about creating something that's not just "buff all beasts in the field" for hunter? This whole class is a failure

>>170072316
Azure drake

>>170060029
Ladder is genuinely easier than ranked.
My botting stats can confirm this.

>>170072812
>>170073613
druid if the claw instead of drake
matchup fixed

>>170073128
Probably not because as hunter you're always playing from behind vs. shaman so you actually want to trade with his board. Hunter not being able to race fucking shaman is top kek, but that's Hearthstone 2017.

And vs. pirate warrior it doesn't really matter anyway when you're being hit with a weapon every turn.

>>170073773

How about

>Hunter epic spell

>Enter the Un'goro
>6 mana spell
>Destory all minions except for each player's highest attack beast

>>170071335
>go hunter
>use all your charge cards
>lose because pirate warrior is fast, shaman heals and taunts up 20 gorillion times and reno renos reno reno with a bit of rng

>>170073890
So a shittier version of Enter the Colosseum that gives the advantage to the hunter 90% of the time.

>>170073754
You would be surprised how much the card cycling means in the deck. I tried it without Drake. Every game where you draw your alternative instead of Drake, you notice how much it means.
The spell damage is great as well.

>>170073890
Tbh something like give two random friendly beasts Taunt could work without being too strong.

Helps to stop bleeding for a moment against aggro, can set up a doomsayer.
Or maybe it would be another unseen card like Bestial Wrath.

>>170074118

How about just make taunt a non-issue for hunter?

>Hunter common minion
>Ironbeak Sparrow (Beast tag)
>2 mana 2/3
>Battlecry: silence a minion with taunt

or

>Hunter rare spell
>Precision shot
>3 mana spell
>destroy a random enemy minion with taunt, deal damage to the enemy hero equal to the health of the minion destroyed

>literally play sylv in my deck as a counter to finja and other unclearable high stat bulllshit
>I wont be able to do this in the future
what the fuck why move sylv, everyclass better get a nuke card like twisting then.

>>170074394

>complain about sylv

Mage will be in a way worse situation. Tempo mage is basically dead with all the power creep and reno mage is weaken with reno rotating out.

They refuse to actually make Mage top tier in a meta like huntertaker, patron warrior, secret paladin and these Shaman eras.

Lifecoach is streaming!

>>170074394
high stat? they have 4 health at most
nothing compared to jades

>>170074551
>complaining about mages
Mages have always had solid decks to be played since beta up until Gadgetzan and even now you've had RenoMage classified as a Tier1 deck

How about letting a few other classes in the spotlight, eh?

>>170074551
>Mage will be in a way worse situation
Mage can't be worse than hunter and paladin this expansion.

>>170074705
sometimes they do get the double warleader, and dragon priest health buff cards win the game on their own

>>170075002
>>170075227

But mages never have a meta defining deck.

Opponent plays Finja, I have Dragonfire Potion in my hand. Do I
>wait for his effect to trigger, therefore killing more minions with one card
or
>wreck it asap
?

>>170075298
What is freeze mage, mech mage, tempo mage, reno mage? What about less known but decent tier 2 deck like grinder mage and aggro mage?

>>170075470
asap imo now they have to play with shitty draws

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why do HotS casters look so professional, while Hearthstone is stuck with spergs like Sottle, Admirable, and Raven?

>>170075504
>freeze mage, mech mage, tempo mage, reno mage

Those are not meta defining by themselves. Mech mage falls out of favours quickly because they lacked draws. Have you ever heard of one meta that is named after them?

So the fact that they're refunding dust for year of the mammoth but letting you keep the card means there's no reason to not just go ahead and craft Rag and Sylvanas? Are they pretty much free?

>>170075586

Yep. Too bad I only have enough dust to craft one of them.

So guys: Sylv or Rag?

>>170075547
man i'm so glad hearthstone casters took the meme route it makes for a way better viewing experience just take the 'can you spot lethal' joke ones had me laughing a bit.

>>170000000

>>170075586
If you don't have them, definitely, they're pretty much free. I'd wait until the last few days though, in case you might unpack one of them in the meantime.

>>170075562
>Have you ever heard of one meta that is named after them?
Anon, they are meta defining decks from tier 1. Decks like pirate warrior, shaman and secret paladin are on the whole next level where they warp and twist meta around themselves.

>>170075586
not really it's all an elaborate ploy to incentives wild play so they can charge double when they re-release nax

>>170075710
>Decks like pirate warrior, shaman and secret paladin are on the whole next level where they warp and twist meta around themselves.

Exactly. I want a mage deck like that. In fact, I want a mage deck that is the most cancerous in the history of hearthstone, which the huntertaker can't even compete with.

>>170075710
This

Meta defining is when a bunch of decks healthily compete with each other, like making love with your beautiful partner
But the shit secret paladin and pirate warrior did was figuratively rape

>>170075547
i like the hearthstone casters more cuz its just luls

>>170075683
i dont get it

>>170075854
>I want a mage deck that is the most cancerous in the history of hearthstone, which the huntertaker can't even compete with.
Pirates and shaman are more cancerous than huntertaker. Higher representation, higher winrates.

>>170075958
>higher winrates
Didn't Brode recently say that from statistics, the highest winrate ever was from huntertaker at ~70%?

>hots brawl type people dislike for still need 3 games even though it's basically a long brawl
>they put it so you only need 2 for that one

gets you 1000g too btw
bunch of t1 heroes are 2000-4000g

>>170075958

I want a meta where a mage deck surpassed them all.

>>170076102
so what?

>>170076051
>the highest winrate ever was from huntertaker at ~70%?
It can't be. Tier 0 decks have about 55% average winrate with all the match-ups and shitty players pulling it down.

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>new (((expansion))) announced
>still getting lapped in threads by weebstone

>>170076332
Yep, shitty meta, 6 meh cards, so much to talk about

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>>170076332
>this is what Shadowshitters ACTUALLY believe
MEGALUL

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Can someone teach me how to build decks?

>>170076332

Weebstone is also having its expansion soon.

>>170076561

Because people actually play the game instead of watching?

>>170076561
Not him but are you able to comprehend English?

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>>170076305
My mistake, it was actually around 60%

http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/2209-ben-brode-on-the-meta-balance-and-shaman

>>170076623
there's no such thing as deckbuilding in hearthstone, I am sorry

>>170076561
why does a dead game have such a quick general?
really makes you think

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>>170076623
I just want to go beyond rank 19, god dammit.

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>>170076629
>>170076665
>Shadowcucks this desperate to defend their pedophilia simulator
>in a general that isn't even theirs
BLIZZARD IS TOAST
HOW CAN THEY EVER RECOVER

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>tfw can't go to 5 and then turn on the bot to farm on 20 until the end of month anymore

>>170076768
Your ironic shitposting is getting a bit desperate m8

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>>170076750
What do I even remove from this one? The secrets feel kind of weak.

>>170076684
I just don't know know how everyone has expansion cards or full Jade shaman/Druid sets even at his shit tier rank.

>the pirate package
>the water package
>the jade package
>the dragon package

This shit needs to stop.

How is there no thematic consistency within singular deck archetypes? Wake the fuck up, Blizzard.

>>170076858
Just go to 5 in Wild and set your bot to farm in Standard

This game would be better if they offered 20 gold for 3 wins instead of 10 so you can earn 100 gold in a reasonable amount of time.

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>>170076768
How do you know that this number is not higher than the entire Hearthstone's playerbase?

>>170076728
Because 4chan is full of Weebs

It's logical that a weeb game thread will have more people in it

>>170076768
>>170076561
Shadowverse made 100 million in its first 6 months
Hearthstone made 114 million in its first year

i need a new mouse
what's a good pro hearthstone mouse?

>>170077208
no it would be better if it offered 5 gold for each win, and if you got 1 gold for dealing 15 damage, 1 gold for killing 10 minions and 1 gold for playing 15 cards a game

that way you dont have to win to get anything

the reason hearthstone is a bad f2p game is because you have to win, thus everyone netdecks and dusts mediocre cards to craft broken decks

I wanna get to Legend this month for the card back and then never bother with it ever again

When should I start laddering? The way I see it, right now it's a bit of a grind because the season is still fresh and everybody's playing top decks at low ranks so I best wait a few days, right?

>>170077418
You need like 300-500 games to get to legend. You should start right now.

>>170077418
>I wanna get to Legend this month for the card back and then never bother with it ever again

Several times I've had this thought running through my head. I almost decided to go ladder this month to try and get it again.

But then I thought, I fucking hate playing ladder. I actually hate most of this game.

Why do I want to spend 100 hours doing something I hate for a meaningless card back for a game I hate?

So instead I downloaded the witcher 3.

>>170077345
really nailed it in my opinion
the quests where you need to win they fucking suck
lots of the hots quests are just play with characters from this universe or complete x amount of games
only 1 quest is where you need to win and that's the most annoying one but it awards double (even though that one you can also do in like 15 mins doing vs ai games)

would really improve the enjoyment of hs and you can still play to win ofcourse

same with overwatch did now, that custom games server it still grants xp so if you just wanna fuck around instead of playing quick play or ranked you aren't penalized, just play what you think is fun

>>170077418
Personally I haven't done it but the people who have told me three things
>1. I didn't learn anything new
>2. It wasn't enjoyable
>3. Don't do it

Should I just dust my reno if I don't play wild?

>>170077418
just start playing now and don't stop until legend.

>>170077708
Only dust Legendaries when they actually go out of Standard

>>170076728
it made 100 million in 6 months. its playerbase is like 90% gooks is why it has so low views on twitch. they have their own streaming sites

>>170077708
You never know when you might want to play it or when a brawl where it's broken might appear.

>>170077974
Didn't know a walking corpse could copulate

>>170077974
hearthcucks certainly deserve it. pizzaman shits up the game for years then he raps and all cucks come out to suck his balls

>>170077660
the first time i got legend was with patron warrior. i learned a whole lot about the deck and about the game in general. i had fun to since the deck was fun to play. the other 2 times i got it was with boring curve decks. those times i didn't learn anything, it just felt grindy, didn't feel like an achievement, and wouldn't recommend it.

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So without giving me a math equation or posting a ridiculous chart of numbers can anyone explain how the new ranked will work?

can I casually play 20 hours a month and still get rank 10? Are those new rewards still even worth it?

>>170077825
>they have their own streaming sites
sauce?

>>170070872
Wish I had your luck. For me it usually goes
>win 3 games
>lose 4 games
>win 1 game
>lose 3 games
>win 3 games

>>170078073
Sylvanas manages

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>>170078331
I had that fun today

>playing casual
>jade n'zoth shaman appears

I hope the fucking control meta never comes and we get stuck in a neverending aggro meta. Fuck that shit. Dying turn 4 feels great compared to this shit.

>>170078321
Probably nico. It's pretty bad, though.

>>170078429
pretty much, I hate how it's so polarizing between 'kill you at turn 4' and 'outvalue your deck 10times over'

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>>170070872
>at rank 20

>>170058449
>Priest didn't get anything good
Funnel cakes would like a word with you.

Sire purify sucked, and bishop is only good alongside ressurect in a tailored deck. But PoF is used in virtually every priest deck. Its a generally very good card.

Warrior did kind of suck, but the weapon was unique, and protect the king was cool too.

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Is /hsg/ the most cucked general on /vg/? Your throats seem to be filled with Bencum and you are always craving the Bencock no matter how many times he fucks you over

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>zoo lock is back

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Remember when Hearthstone was fun

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>>170079574
>>170078186
>>170077974
I thought this samefagging trend ended with the new decade.

>>170079614
And it will be gone with PO removal.

>>170077418
>I will in no way encounter top ranked players with top ranked decks when I reach the top ranks if I wait a week before playing.

noggin'
joggin'

>>170079617
>tier two
>control priest

That hasn't been true since beta.

>>170079574
Can't you just stay on /pol/ or /v/?

>>170079617
someone explain to me why tier lists have varying amount of decks in tier 1

>>170079887
>why doesn't rock win every time I play rock paper scissors???

>>170079887
they are all just as good as each other and better than everything else

>>170079617
the meta on the right doesn't exist anymore

>>170079958
I'd put decks that exist solely as counter meta on the side of a tier list

>>170079703
I didn't say that, I just meant to imply that the grinding until rank 5 will be easier if I wait a bit so rank 15 doesn't feel like rank 5 and make me quit prematurely

>>170043592
some drama is brewing, some faggots are upset over some comments about heroic brawl and the expansion announcement so they are pushing the ben brode rap shit to the extreme to cover threads :^) nothing to see here goyim

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>have mage quest
>try tempo mage
>opponent's are greedy as fuck priest and control shamana deck with perfect draw for heal and removals or control
>try reno
>opponent's are suddenly Jade Druids
>try freeze mage
>opponent is hand buff paladin with eater of secrets, eye for an eye and brann+han'cho buff on Leeroy

>>170079617
>Remember when Hearthstone was fun
When every game was Handlock against Patron with some Combo Druid in between

>>170080192
if something like that will make you quit then you won't have the will power to get there ever.

>>170081152
>food analogy

>>170081141
>opponent is hand buff paladin with eater of secrets, eye for an eye and brann+han'cho buff on Leeroy
this sounds like the worst deck in the world

>>170081501
Yeah, but it with the great draw he had and my perfect draw of almost no burn by turn 10, he fucked me up hardcore.

>>170081152
Well, he's not wrong.

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>walk home from work late at night
>almost at the door, hear my wife screaming
>open the door and see Ben Brode riding my wife like a wolfrider rides his wolf
>"H-hey, i scream. What are you doing to my wife Ben Brode"?
>he gets up and rushes over to me
>slaps me to the ground and laughs so loud the walls are trembling
>"Get back to your pc faggot. New quests are up" he says with a grin on his face
>me being a crying wreck at that point obey his wish and open up hearthstone
>its the total dominance quests
>"t-thanks Ben" i tell him with tears in my eyes
>suddenly Ben appears behind me
>pushes me to the grind while my wife is laughing and rerolls my total dominance quest
>"Thats not for you hearthcuck" he says while he heads back to the couch to plow my wife
>tears wont stop flowing but somehow manage to get back up to my chair
>the new quest is win 5 tavern brawls

>>170081884
Cunnyverse wins again

>play deck
>opponent is a counter to this deck
every time!

>>170081704
He's not right either, the 'stop complaining' folks are the biggest cocksuckers in history.

>>170081704
It's the equivalent of a restaurant charging for cups of water because the cups are colored differently and not giving out free water anymore. Even with his shitty food analogy the logic doesn't add up.

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>>170081884

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNgDw4K-HVg

Buy your pre-order and get 50% of the new set, goy.

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Will I make legend with murloc shaman /hsg/ ?

>>170082493
Anything shaman gets you to legend. The class is pure concentrated bullshit.

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this nigger priest kept stealing my jade cards and ended up playing bigger jades than me ayy

when does that faggy hsg tourney start?
where is the brackets

>>170082493
are you expecting me to believe forbidden tentacles zoo is rank 5

>>170082901
~5pm EST

http://challonge.com/BennyBrodesLockerNA

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>>170082901
We'll be starting at 5pm EST with BlueMun-Ragnador.

We were pretty on-schedule yesterday, only missed Misenaive-DonCacturne.

Some highlights of Day 1 included:
>horrible misplays
>85% meme decks
>UpdateGuy carrying the Majordomo flag with his victory
>ZardozSpeaks getting absolutely rekt at Hearthstone by an actual girl with a vagina and everything

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Preorder Journey to Un'goro

man losing to jades just fucking sucks

>>170083492
Only if there will be a shill rap battle between Brode and Kripp.

>>170083457
Start it earlier

>>170082992
That guy can play anything on rank 5 now, he won't downgrade if he loses.

>>170082259
>280 bucks on packs almost
>minimum amount of legendaries is like 6
>get 6 bolfs
yep that's hearthstone all right

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I mean, I want to nut hard inside her vagoo, but this is just ridiculous.

I'm so fucking bored with Hearthstone

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if kelly is a real girl that's baller as fuck
take no shits and just shitpost and play

Are the EU servers shitting themselves?

>>170083457
HOL UP

HOL UP

KELLY IS A GIRL(FEMALE)?!?!?

WHAT THE FUG!

>>170084096
kelly is cute

who the fuck is kelly

>>170077789
not even then ... keep em cause things like hall of fame might occur more often from now on like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnn9C6iw52Q

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is this mouse good enough for competitive hearthstone?
what do the pro players use?

>>170084219
my personal meat toilet

Greater Arcane Missiles is pretty fun

what's the point of AoE like flamestrike when you can't use it to clear dragon priests board or jade boards? AoE needs to get powercreeped like minions have been

how can anyone endure watching thijs

holy shit is like he gets off on being a flamboyant insufferable faggot

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>>170084404
tablets and laptops

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>playing tempo mage
>vs. druid
>he mulches my sorc apprentice
>spellbender
>created by babbling book
>mulch gives me another sorc apprentice

>>170084852
There's tons of shit that needs to be powercreeped like minions have been, especially Hero HP and the ladder system

>>170084912
Why even mention him? We all know he's a hack from all the traitor redditors here who lost out on packs because of him.

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post yfw:
>justicar is rotating out
>warrior quest reward will be gain 40 armor

>>170084912
he's our aut

>>170085125
>*back alley armorsmith blocks ur path*

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>>170084852
Light bomb would fuck over yuge jades
Instead they get a 5dmg Zoe on turn 6 instead which probably doesn't kill them anyways

>>170085125
>after gaining 20 armor your hero power becomes gain 4 armor
thats cool

>>170084394
this raises an interesting question

arent rag and sylvanas among the most famous WoW characters?

how do you get away with removing them from the main game