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/hsg/ EU finals and NA starting rounds today edition

>/hsg/ Tournament Information
EU Semi-Finals, Third-Place Match, and Grand final are scheduled for Friday starting at 2pm EST/19:00 GMT
NA Tournament will start after the assumed finish of the EU Grand Final this Friday at 7pm EST/4pm Pacific

Stream: twitch axolotlhooves

>Deck lists, news etc
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://heartharena.com/
https://hsdecktracker.net/

>Open Tournaments
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>/hsg/ general & tournament discord
https://discord.gg/EqXJCGb

>Optimal pack buying / crafting strategy
Save up all gold 120 days before each expansion (6100g). This means saving for the next set starting the 18th of April. You can craft remaining top legendaries without the chance of pulling them from packs.

>Simulate your 50 pack pre-order
https://speedodevo.github.io/packr/

>Track your Un'Goro pity timer
http://pitytracker.com/

Previously
>>169887024
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cunnyverse
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gwent
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HS needs more thick girls.
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gwent
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eternal
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Brawl of Ages™
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>>169974275
Stale pastry
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duelyst
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path of exile 2.6: legacy league, divination cards
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hsg tourney day hype
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>playing murloc shaman
>play tidecaller coin tidecaller turn 1
>play another murloc he clears it
>play seer and alt tab away
>he buys I went away
>play a fierce monkey and then goes to town on my face
>doesn't clear the board
>turn 4
>play call in the finishers+everythin
Who said aggro wasn't full of mindgames?
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>login to shadowverse
>get 40g
>play a couple games
>pack, 130g, 50 dust
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>>169974706
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>>169974816
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>>169973965
And I struggled to get a job involving writing tests for a shitty carpooling app.
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>>169974816
that has to be a troll or blizzard account
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>>169974275
funnel cakes with a bitter powdered frosting
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>>169974371
>you will never dance the night away in a hot, sweaty grind with frodan until he asks if you want some company tonight in a sweet but dominant manner

why even live lads
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>>169975202
Why would you think this when there are "you mad, poorfag" shitposters that even come to here, a forum seemingly dedicated to complaining about the freemium business model of the game?
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>>169975415
why did I think this image was blue
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>>169975415
because we know blizzard employees post here
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Is there a more cancerous card in arena?

>heres the AOE board clear your class wouldnt normally have access to
>heres heal 12 as warlock
>heres shadow word death as mage

Fuck this card is stupid RNG
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>>169975517
it's ok, strapons are fine because then you can't see under her knickers

she's got a sports bra on and everything
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>>169975525
C'mon, you know the exact type of person that comes here and uses "well at least I'm handsome and have a fell paying job you must be pathetic" as a defense in an argument would say that.

It's Hanlon's Razor, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
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which old gods cards do you predict will make a come back or be (more) valuable in the un'goro meta
basically which cards of that set will be nice to have for strong or fun decks in un'goro

>legendary
>4800dust
n'zoth
ragnaros lightlord
fandral

>epic
>2400 dust
call of the wild
cabaltist tome
faceless shambler

>rare
>1000 dust
thing from below
bloodsail cultist
infested wolf
mire keeper
addled grizzly

>common
>800 dust
evolved kobolt
bloodhoof brave
carrion grub
darkshire councilman
ravaging ghoul
feral rage
psycho tron
mark of y'shaarj
n'zoth's first mate
possessed villager

what do you think about:
corrupted healbot
princess huhuran
hallazael the ascended
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>>169975570
only until you play it, when you'll be offered flash heal, blood imp and shatter
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>>169975705
m8 we know blizzard comes here because of this

and they stole OC
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>>169975718
I would say that all of those are already fantastic cards that are played in their respective archetype styles (granted they are good) except for:

-infested wolf/carrion/huhuran grub are likely too slow unless they push the greedier control-killer midrange hunter style
-addled grizzly and mire keeper might just be too weak to make the cut in any druid deck, same for healbot (outside of silence priest xD) and psycho-tron, cabalist tome is probably the tech card most contingent on the meta
-control shaman might get the boost or likely just stay irrelevant, but it does have synergy with volcano and I'm going to play that shit anyway

other then that I'm not sure what types of decks are going to hit the card lottery this time around

>>169975631
Nice.
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>>169976321
i think i sorted them reasonably well
it's hard to pick. some cards i just like and think could be good like addled grizzly

the hunter cards for example maybe they are too slow just think at least they will be given a look

anyway so sure depends on what happens just wanted to see how limited the potential list is basically since currently very few of the cards are used, just wanna know if that changes
if any one card stands out it's probably n'zoth for some reason maybe it's just because of the deathrattle teaser with priest though and it won't actually be good

guess we just don't know yet
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will the na hsg bring the same fun or more than the eu one?
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Are you ready to get those 12 wins in the heroic tavern brawl goy?
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>>169977441
NA 4chan in leagues better than International 4chan
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Volcano is a worse elemental destruction
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>>169977635
how much does it cost?
it's normal this feelsbad right because some guy is gonna get a ton of legendaries and basically a pre order from the gold winning or something
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>>169977875
1000 gold to enter, that's 20 days worth of gold.
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>>169974209
oh shit thanks
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No packs for you next week hearthcucks. Dont forget to preorder Un'goro HAHAHAHAHA
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Not even last months' pirate warrior could enrage me to the point that dragon priest does. At least the pirates knew they were shitters, but not these faggot priests, oh no. They think they are very skilled at the game when they drop a huge body that gives the perfect big minion or removal they needed to win the game. And if they do it 4 times in one game, that just shows how good they are at the game the fucking smug bastards.

It should have been a token from a fucking legendary to even be remotely close to balanced.
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>>169977959
so you need 5-6 to run about even and even that is deviating from the "optimal" saving strategy since you will be changing 10 un'goro packs into 2 un'goro and 6 msog

is the cumulative in this history like does it mean that 50% of the players only went 2 wins? and 85% "broke even" or ran a loss?
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>>169978231
http://secretagentcomingthrough.com/
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>>169978231
kek
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>>169978283
3.5% of the runs ended in 7+ wins, which would break even/net a profit.

Should tell you enough.
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>>169978314
wait the page actually exists kek
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>>169978407
>mfw
ok so thanks a lot for the psa to stay clear because it will feel alluring and some people will get huge rewards that will make any person feelsbadman
blizzard really has great marketing lets hope they make great cards too!
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why is everyone on the ladder such a salty cocksucking faggot
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>>169978689
because the game is frustrating
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>>169978612
Did you come from reddit or twitch?
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>>169978997
i came from the mean streets of gadgetzan
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Show me the best purify resurrect deck in the world, or I'll eat your soul!
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Post deck names
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Say your line hearthcucks
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>>169973965
doesn't this bug still happen today?
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>>169979423
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man this brawl really displays how bad goons are when they need a +2buff hero power and your opponent to have a trash deck before they're even good
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>>169979453
Un'goro will slow down the meta and reduce rng effects!
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>>169979453

preordering helps Blizzard with extra resources that can be used to improve the game
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>people think freeze is good in this meta
My sides, do you know the reason it wasn't good against druid? Because of double keeper and offboard burst, well guess what? Everydeck is running a perfect answer to doomsayer and damage from hand, so good luck LOL
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>>169979847
who the fuck thinks that exactly?
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>>169979453
Aggro is going to disappear.
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>>169980034
JUST
Meanwhile ill craft whatever the fuck i want with my 10k dust. KEKU
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>>169980019
This fucking shieldbearer general like you, my sides. Fucking yuro retards.
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>>169980034
>trying to argue ambiguous statements
He'll literally lie out his arse and say that that's a good chunk of cards
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>playing against goons pally
>it's free wins
Please stop playing goons on ladder you're making me feel guilty i'm not even playing tier 1 decks ffs
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>>169980506
does your father hit you anon?
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>>169980674
No because he left 12 years ago
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>>169977441
We're considerably better both at having fun and the game imo.
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I hope the new aggro rogue goes the way of including the stealth package that way I can include this card in my deck and feel like a rigth meme man
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>>169979453
the pre-order is a great value discount and daily login rewards come in generous amounts
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>>169979423
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Hows that saving up going /hsg/?
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>>169980034
i tried to calculate but since my tgt pre order isn't pure because i surely must have bought at least a couple more packs with gold i can't actually make a strong point out of the haul. i'm pretty sure i was super disappointed and didn't last that long, i was naive thinking it would be great so it can't have been too many more packs

anyway the points i was going for was that i got lots of duplicate commons, missing a ton of the high value or fun epics and the vast majority of epics/legendaries i did get were garbage tier

the common duplicates i counted them up to be 91 duplicates, now i can't say from how many packs those are for sure but if you put those 91 dupes into real packs of 4 commons maximum per pack that means almost 23 tgt packs i opened were fully filled with duplicate commons
91 common dupes is 470 dust when disenchanted so 1 epic
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>>169981154
Why don't you make the full playset for the common ones? It's free 10 dust.
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don't play heroic brawl
https://www.twitch
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so it's either curve out like a god or lose on turn 3 from cabal talonpriest
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>>169981154
I saved so much since MSoG only had 3 playable legendaries. I like buying packs though so I'm only saving gold now.

>when you realize every class gets 2 legendaries next expansion because there will be an influx of dust in the game due to the standard-only people dusting 3 sets worth of cards
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>>169982410
>don't play heroic brawl
I had fun with it last time. But yeah don't play it if you dont have a load of gold already, or dont want to gamble 5$.
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>>169982410
Holy shit Kripp is absolutely based
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Can I spectate someone?
Farnie#1139
NA
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>>169982665
what did he say in the vid? Can't open that atm.
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>>169982410
why is he bouncing in his seat?
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>>169982807
Both times that the Heroic Brawl came out, it was right before an expansion release and when the meta was absolute shit. Even a good player with the best deck can easily go 0-3 so it's a huge waste.

It's pretty obvious stuff really.
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>>169982807
Just crazy conspiracy meme spouting. It is not important, fuck that gypsy.
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>>169982807
He said heroic brawl is a literal scam, pointed out the fact that blizzard released it twice week before an expansion pack, said the system is rigged so you can easily go 0-3 even with a good deck and being a great player and that going 0-3 in that brawl is like going 0-3 10 times in arena which is absolutely impossible and even if it did happen you would still earn 9 packs more than going 0-3 in the brawl. And finally he warned people to not give blizzard money playing this brawl.
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>>169982807
he said brawl is rigged, it always came out before a new pack expansion, going 0-3 in heroic brawl is the same loss as going 0-3 30 times in arena which isn't possible because someone will disconnect at least one time
that streamers are hype because it gets them viewers but you should not play it or pay for it
and that he will play it only one time just so he doesn't interrupt his weekly brawl videos for youtube meaning he would literally not even play it once if it wasn't for that
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>>169982931
Rania's under him
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>>169982970
>>169982971
>>169982993
>>169983005
thanks guys. At least he speaks is mind. Reynad, even when he rant about the game, never say anything bad about blizzard. I guess Kripp as slightly more integrity.
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>>169982570
When are the old gods getting outta use? This shit kills me, I swear.
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>>169983057
d-doing what??
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>>169983312
anon its simple:
- next month we lose: BRM, TGT, LOE
- next year we lose: Old Gods, One night In Zeriyah, Meme streets
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>>169983353
Thanks for clearing it up. This system probably has its use, but I fuckin hate it.
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>>169983312
First expac of 2018. Year of the Mammoth will be:

Old Gods - Kara - MSoG - Ungoro - 2017 Set(2) - 2017 Set(3)
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>>169983409
the real problem is that they dont followe the "usual" TCG standard format. Usually its a first in/first out thing, but for some reason blizz remove like 3 sets at the same time, regardless of being released at the start or end of the "year"
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Wow, you're so smart to free-load and refuse to sponsor the development of a game you obviously get enjoyment out of. We're all very proud of your selfishness.

t. a lonely cuck on hearthpwn
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>>169983532
>Usually its a first in/first out thing, but for some reason blizz remove like 3 sets at the same time
That's what MTG used to do. 3 sets per block, 2 blocks in standard at any time. I haven't played since Kamigawa so idk what they do now.
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>>169983792
Who do people keep bringing MTG to the conversations?
Nobody gives a literal shit about your dead autistic manchild IRL card game.
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How do I tackle this draft?
Should I go full control deck?
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>>169983951
pyro or riot
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>>169983895
because its the only other relevant game with rotating formats
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>>169983895
>wants to talk about rotation
>WHY WOULD ANYONE BRING UP THE ONLY OTHER GAME WITH ROTATION EXPERIENCE
not even saying mtg does it right just talking about how it has been done before
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>>169984102
>>169984308
Sorry i'm autistic
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>>169983748
isnt it early for you to be already shilling?
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When is the new ranked system coming in, where people don't start at 20 at the start of the season? I'm tired to play against people with all the meta shit as f2p
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is there more trinity series today ?
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>g-guys r-reno is inconsistent cancer d-deck!
>all his decks require drawing finja on 5
TOP LOL Defend this aggro tards
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>>169984730
never, they're just adding floors at 15,10, and 5 which should make those ranks a complete joke
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>>169984601
if you got a pack per post you'd be doing the same cuckboy
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>>169984752
yesterday was the last day of groups and in about 1.5-2 weeks i believe the live tourney playoffs happen? not sure if the actual date is known yet though

there will be the conclusion of EU and start of NA /hsg/ tourneys played and streamed, starts in 4 hours
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>>169984878
where do i sign up?
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>>169984983
in 3 hours?
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>>169984847
That's what I was asking for
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>>169985047
theres a discord link in the OP which is where they do all the organizing

ask there, im thinking a last resort good angle would be to make yourself available as a backup because surely someone will not show and then you will be the person to take that spot when it happens

gl and meme on, btw there are card bans and if you play a meta deck people will hate you even if its allowed, should try to come up with some memey fun deck
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>>169984983
>>169985071
klandri is unable to participate today so the EU finals will be moved to Saturday.
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>>169985524
when will NA start then? you have a lot of matches to get through...
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>>169982410
>2017
>posting full streams instead of clips
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>>169985524
Nevermind.

>>169985562
6pm EST most likely. I have a sheet that has it all scheduled out, gimme a moment.
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>>169984308
>>WHY WOULD ANYONE BRING UP THE ONLY OTHER GAME WITH ROTATION EXPERIENCE
just saying that Netrunner as rotation as well, and some other less known tcg
but yes your right, mtg is the most known one
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>>169985582
the clip stopped while he was still going to say interesting things about the brawl

>>169985625
that's a terrible time for me in europe but it's friday so ok. hopefully it will start earlier in the weekend
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When do we get new spoilers?
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>>169983895
You are playing a dumped down mtg for WoW casual you faggot. DUH people will bring MTG as an example of how things are done.
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Just a reminder:

Anime tiddies, manly vampires, and skeletal duelists >>>>>>>> Ben Brode rapping for views on his dying game
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>>169985886
MTG is too expensive
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>>169985625
>>169985524
Andy why the flying FUCK are you changing your schedule all the fuckign time to accommodate everyone and their mother who cant follow a fucking schedule?

This is not how tournaments are organized, you make a schedule and stick to it. If people sign up and dont show up its THEIR problem.
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>>169985914
>skeletal duelists
go on
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Kazakus is so fucking cancer. Rng decides every single game with this shitter in
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>>169985954
And Hearthstone isn't?
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>>169985954
I agree since I stopped, except to play casually at home with friends, but you shouldn't be surprised that both game are often compared.
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>>169985968
See that anger and inability to work with people?
That's why you, anon, aren't in charge of these tournaments.
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>>169985974
One of the cards and free alternate heroes of Shadowverse is basically Skeleton Knight from Berserk.
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>>169986106
too bad turn 8 doesn't exist in shadowverse either
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>>169986051
Compared to MTG not at all
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>>169986106
Correction: Skull Knight. My bad.

>>169986172
I've played way more long matches in that than in HS recently.
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>>169986091
>in charge
>tournaments for 4chan user
I would never want to do that. I am in charges of other things and stick to what is planed.
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>>169986220
get out of C0 lmaooo
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>>169985914
Wizard's soul > Magickal gatherings > MTG > Shadowverse > HS
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>>169986270
I'm in A0 now senpai, just started ranked last month too
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>>169981154
Thought I caught up to you today but I am exactly 100 gold behind
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anon from yesterday who just got the free c'thulu thing,

should i buy a 100g pack of the grand tourny? is there any promotions with that
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I can't express how much fun I'm having losing every single match at rank 20 against people with the most broken legendaries that decide games on their own
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>>169985968
i agree but if the people playing are ok with it then it doesn't matter too much
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>>169986825
patches does 1 fucking damage lmao
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>>169986630
nope
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I refuse to believe that a player who grinds his way to the top, or a player who spends a ton of cash on the game, has the same chance of hitting legend with the same deck.

>be pirate warrior
>golden shaman gets 4 times taunt totem just enough for him to survive with 1 health

cunt ass game
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>>169986929
I'm just saying that because I have a pretty busy schedule myself and was thinking about participating (in the next I guess), but seeing how it changes everyday there is just no way that it would work, for me at least.
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>>169986961
Patches is just one of them and people have like 5 in their decks. Cards like Reno should not even be in the game and especially not for 6 stars what the fuck are they thinking? The mana costs make zero sense in this game
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>6 stars
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>>169987296
Get fucked aggro shitter.
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>>169987356
friendly reminder it's the midrange decks reno shits on
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>hit rank 15
>nothing but cancer shamans

holy shit kill me please
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>>169987356
I play cthun druid, so fuck you
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when youve been looking forward to the hsg tourney every day and accepted it being pushed back constantly and then you realize it happened again and the na part starts at midnight
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how can someone be this mad at a rank 19 mirror match where he leaves a 5/5 on board when he is at 10 health without taunts
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>>169987670
Sounds like he was aggressively hitting on you
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>be me pirate warrior
>everyone complains about them filling up ranks
>face nothing but jade druids, jade shamans or aggro shaman
>literally only faced 1 pirate warrior at the moment

what the fuck is going on, and why do I face so much people with 2 oozes nowadays?
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>>169987874
>everyone hates pirate decks
>people start to play oozes

MHH NO IDEA SHERLOCK
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thanks for playing hearthstone goys
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THIS IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>169987874
>tfw when double mirror image double elemental double ooze tempo mage
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>>169988101
>That fight took me one try
>Everyone else freaks out about it
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>>169988045
thank you brode you are my greatest ally
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>>169988276
show feet
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>>169988402
L-Like this anon?
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>>169988397
We should write a saga detailing Brode's rise from Pizza Delivery Man to Shitty Game Developer to Passable Rap Artist.
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1 in 153 players will get this reward
are you one of the lucky few goy?
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>>169988508
what do you call stockings that go under the feet
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>>169988710
what a deal
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This was probably the most pay2win game I've ever touched. Fuck you all for wasting my time
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>tfw you realize blizzard just made arena standard so good decks are less common = less people getting good rewards and buying more packs

fucking jews
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I am a masochist and I will continue grinding all my daily quests until the day the meta is slow enough that I can pull pic related off.
I'll disenchant all that I don't need day one of the expansion to craft the deck.
I'll play it daily until a new patch arrives and then I'll uninstall.
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>>169988953
i like the change, wild is gay
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Got 2 legendaries in my arena draft, time to go 0-3
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>>169989005
those legendaries are pretty garbage though
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>>169988710
thats at best, at worst no one could get 12 wins
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So I've spent $300 so far and will probably spend another $300 in a couple days. I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing, which pack to buy or what deck to build

Help pls
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>>169986258
>>169986091
Don't even get me started on who's in charge
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>>169989493
Good goy
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>>169989493
use amazon coins for a better deal
get all the adventures
don't buy tgt or old gods packs
get a decent amount of classic
keep 200 to drop on un'goro
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>>169989493
how bad is your collection? every meta the best decks are usually the cheapest. at least just hold out for ungoro.
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>>169989572
do you feel in charge?
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>>169989609
does she swallow?
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>>169980034
"good chunk"
this fucking guy holy shit
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>>169990253
no, she just pegs cucks
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>>169990334
i'd peg her butt with my donger
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>>169990467
thats not pegging
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>>169990556
with my donger
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>>169980034
redditfags are such cucks
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When is the end of the EU tournament?
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>>169990942
you missed it
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>>169990739
>meta is in terrible shape
>take 2 months to nerf a card that was cearly op on release
>login rewards are pitiful
>showcase such shit cards like Longneck in the preview then make people wait 2 weeks for more cards
but then
>brode releases a rap video
and suddenly blizz are the greatest game devs to ever walk the earth
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all aggro is cancerous
control value (jade) is cancerous
meta/combo is where it's at
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I finally have 1600 dust again. Do I get Tirion or Lightlord as my next legendary?
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>>169991265
save it god damnit when will people leard
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>>169991187
jade isn't control value it's midrange value, the equivelant of a deck full of inspire minions except the can be played on curve
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>>169980360
same boat. honestly most people should have a decent stockpile since there were only like 3 craftworthy cards in msog and thats if you played every archtype. not to mention dusting LoE and BRM will get you 2 legendaries worth if you only care about standard.
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>>169991265
>do I want an 8 mana 0/1 or 8 mana 0/1 that heals for 8
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>>169991103
Idiots with a big nice smile who never do any good make it further in life than honest people. Charisma is greater than knowledge or talent.
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>>169991265
>Tirion or Lightlord
Paladin is shit and you need both to make it playable so might as well hoard. If you have to choose, Id say rag since both just gets hexed making the heal go further.
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>>169991265
Nice fish

Fishgirl meta when?
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Have you bullied aggro shitters today yet?
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Post your face when no more Flamewaker
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>>169991851
those candles look like big load of cum
nice game
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>>169992062
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>>169992062
Feelsbadman tempo mage was the closest we got to a midrange mage deck, now we'll never get to have a swing turn against aggro, our best anti aggro tool is a 3mana maelstrom portal that destroys our own board and doesn't summon a 3/2
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Rate
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>>169992735
>2 mana 4/2
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>>169992735
YAMEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>169992735
>2 mana 4/2 with conditional charge
just a weaker milhouse
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>>169992735
Should read "If you control 2 other pirates gain Charge"

Also it's stupid broken.
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>>169991342
Why save dust? I'd rather just get a good card now rather than wait on something that might be good. Do you think the quests will cost a ton to craft?

>>169991504
Paladin isn't shit. I've had good success with it on ladder with my murloc combos. The hand buff shit is bad though, so they got screwed on that. I think they will make a comeback once midrange decks come back into fashion.
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>>169992735
For the Lifebinder on crack
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>>169992735
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>no token focused paladin
>no holy control paladin
>mrmrlrmlrmgmrglrglmgr instead
heh Greebings t.Ben Broke
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>>169993140
>Paladin isn't shit
You realize the big meme this expansion was that Paladin and Hunter were removed from the game?
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>>169993140
Quests are legendary and each class gets one, so 9 x 1600 dust.
Unless quest cards are a reward for the single player missions but I doubt it.
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>>169993657
there are no single player missions in Un'goro
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>>169993798
Source.
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/hsg/ EU semifinals start in 30 minutes
>>
HSG TOURNEY HYPE
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>>169993854
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20475356/a-year-of-mammoth-proportions-2-16-2017

Under Adventuring in Expansions
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>>169993854
The second expansion of 2017 will be our first step into this new design, and we plan on building on this concept over time. Additional details about our free single player content will come at a later time.
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>>169993879
>EU
>>
I DID IT
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>>169994212
nice one lad
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>>169993431
>totem shaman taking off even though it's carried by the shitter cards
>lol no time for jades
Epic XD
>>
Newish player here, would it be a better idea to save my gold till Ungoro hits or just arena anyway?
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>>169994691
switch to gwent or cunnyverse while u can
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>>169994691
if you believe in yourself go arena
if you really want to hop on the hype train just save gold
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>>169994691
Best idea would be to play some other game.
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>When some nigger is mocking you and you're about to let him go, but then he thinks that it's funny
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>>169994691
if you want a game with a huge variety of deck types and really good ftp experience play Shadowverse. If you want pain and suffering being ftp and all play Hearthstone. Havent played Gwent cant form an opinion on it as a cardgame
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>>169994821
nice 0/1
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>>169994691
open classic packs for essential legendaries like ragnaros and sylvanas
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>>169994691
Save the gold, if the expansion bombs you can always arena anyways.
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>>169994717
>>169994764
>>169994834
fuck off shills
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>>169995007
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>>169994894
It also has taunt though
I correctly read that he didn't have Hex though, or he would have committed it by the time I spent 2 PW:Shield.
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>>169995007
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>>169995007
it looks like youre the shill here anon
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Is Blizz removing Sylv and Rag because they let coin-flips determine games or because they're too strong? I really hope they take a look at Lightning Storm. I don't think I hate any other card more than it from either end.
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>>169995078
>gets fucked on ladder
>gets fucked in tournament
>i-it's the g-games fault!!
the most pathetic hearthstone "pro" in the scene. im glad he's gone
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>>169995220
ja ja ja whatever
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>>169995179
Because they are strong classic cards that never rotate out. As bullshit as they are, Rag and Sylvanas made sure no one would need to spend 3200 dust every expansion to have a pair of playable legendaries.
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>>169995179
because they are two cards you could safely craft and play in decks since hearthstone was created

you cant have cards like that in standard
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/hsg/ semifinals and finals start in 1 hour and 10 minutes (earlier message was wrong). NA starts afterwards.
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>100 dust average
dispel this myth
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Even rank 15 feels good knowing I won't tank to 20 if I play fucked up on the weekend
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>>169995179
if you actually bothered to read why you would know the answer.

sylv is too good for deathrattle synergies to exist in the future.

rag is so good at 8 mana that other cards even close to that mana range are just judged as "is this as good as just having rag instead"
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>>169995682
is it real or a trolle?
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>>169995765
40 dust 9/10 times
120 dust 1/10 times
420 dust 1/40 times
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>>169996058
read OP
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>>169995682
Where can I watch? Never had time for it as of late.
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>>169996105
47.5 dust
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>>169995793
>>169995308
both are right
imagine the powercreep we would get when new cards would have to compete with them
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>>169996189
Never mind, missed it on OP
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>>169996178
what about this >>169985524
>>169985625
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>>169996191
57.5 actually
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>>169996350
oh snap i only read the text and not the screenshot
so the eu hsg is back on hype
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>>169996105
>>169996191
(40 x 35 + 120 x 4 + 420) / 40 = dust average
I dont know the rate of goldens, if its even worth applying
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>>169996536
i made a mistake and did it over 30 packs by taking 40x25
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>>169996536
>its another anon does math with his made up numbers episode
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*sucks 100 dust out of his thumb while sitting on a dragon dildo bought from the reddit store*
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>>169996105
Even if you say you get 1 legendary every 20 packs instead

(40 x 17 + 120 x 2 + 420) / 20 = 67 dust on average per pack

>>169996748
>made up numbers
Are you retarded? We know how much a pack with 4 commons and 1 rare is, we know how much a pack with 4 commons and 1 epic is, and we know how much a pack with 4 commons and 1 legendary is
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thought hearthstone had the worst casting lineup in all games until I watched hots
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>>169996969
OW is worse

every moba is worse purge is okay though
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>>169973965
FUCK ME
Playing against a litteral tempo mage with turn 1 wyrm, turn 2 apprentice, coin, frostbolt face, and 2 fireballs to kill me later. The fucking mana wyrm was 5/3 turn 5 fuck this shit.
Being good at arena is a fucking meme.
>>
i'm watching hots hgc western clash day 1 too because it's a great game to play, very enjoyable and totally fair ways of earning the heroes
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>>169996907
you dont know the rates at which cards appear in a pack. Only Blizzard does and unless you have about a million pack opening data everything you do is irrelevant
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>>169996907
>All packs have 4 commons
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>>169997039

can't tell if this is ironic or not, they have been giving people free shit for so long for people to stick around
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>>169997054
>>169997061
look at this shills hard at work

>GO BUY MORE PACKS GOY
>dont forget to preorder and spend $50 on 15% of the new content
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>>169997158
>new hero reveal live on stream now
get cucked
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Buy another 50 packs goy, you will get half of the content.
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>>169997179
Just because you use the wrong numbers doesn't mean I'm a shill. You can open 2 rares, it's not even that strange.
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>>169997267
>1 shitty lego
>half the content
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>>169997239

>the probe has me more hyped than the chosen of ungoro
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>>169997338
>You can open 2 rares
wow, an extra 20 dust over 20 packs, enjoy the increased average of 1
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>>169997450
same lol
been too long without a new starcraft hero and those got me to try hots in the first place
>in 3 days its on ptr
>week later it's live
great development cycle
>>
>spending 50 on ungoro when you can spend 0 on hots and have way more fun
lmaoing @u rn LUL
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>>169997771
How much time and money will it cost to grt the cool cardback for getting level 12?
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new overwatch hero is on the ptr already too
what does hearthstone get?
>wait a month for 2 card changes
>a teaser with some shitty cards and 2-3 weeks until more get released
>a $50 pre order
>a brawl thats rigged against them to take their gold away
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>>169997998
forgot
>taking a shitload of cards away
>1 week of login rewards
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>>169997998
>>169998094
At least our bots doesn't destroy the game

>implying /hsg/ plays Hearthstone
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>>169997998
Hearthstone is the best Blizzard game because it makes the most money compared to the effort put in
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>>169997897
way shorter than the 100 wins in hearthstone to get the hs card mount in hots
i'd say within 2 evenings and you are there for sure
with recruit a friend before you are level 5 you get 2 heroes and one of the xp boosters
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>>169998307
If modern day bots are indistinguishable from humans does that mean they pass the turing test? suring blizzard for banning bots when
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>>169995220
The only Hearthstone competitive match I ever watched was Lifecoach. He roped every turn... Never again.
>>
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581816/patch-preview-party-frames-portrait-flames-and-killstreak-fame-3-3-2017

ui update too
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>>169998632
were you here in the dark days when there wasn't a rope in private games? very dark and boring times.
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>>169998582
You could tell before as they would play 1 mana spells on T1. Even then, bots have reached legend every season. It's sad.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvm0of3iDUU
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fucking hyped
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>>169998819
That's because heroes isn't written in unity and the dev team isn't completely useless.
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>>169999286
will Kripp play this? Im tired of seeing him play shitstone and finishing his shitstone quests
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>>169998819

worriedbrode.jpg
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>>169999415
probably
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>>169999415
nah, kripp said he was over his poe addiction for now.
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Play Gwent or I'll have you bent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p_OuMW4bfE
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>>169999286
>free expansions
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Come over here and pull your pants down anons.

I'm gonna show you how to make your own Un'goro crater
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>>169999574
Gwent doesn't have waifus.
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>>169999831
ben all these other games get really nice content. why isn't hearthstone like that?
>>
>>170000000
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>>170000048
We want HearthStone, Heroes of Warcraft (TM) to have a 10000% Operating Margin. With just 10 preorders we have enough to pay for tha code monkey army that makes the cards.
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Hey fellow anons. Neb Edorb here with a fantastic suggestion. Lets preorder the new expansion Secrets of Un'goro crater and compare our pulls on release game. We can make a game of it were the person who opens the most legendary minions wins. Hehe what great fun that would be. So lets get down to it. Im gonna preorder the new expansion right now.
Whose with me?
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>>169999574
I;ve got BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS
>>
Anyone know where Zeriyah lives?

Savjz is currently in her apartment. It looks exactly like mine. I live in Irvine a block away from Blizzard HQ so I am pretty sure its just like a block away.

Anyone have a clue what Apartment complex in Irvine she's at? Everything here is owned by The Irvine Company Apartments.
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>>170000005
thats wrong
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>streamers and 'pros' in charge of evaluating cards
https://youtu.be/7mDxLeSb0KI
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>>170000463
why?
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>>170000687
>someone could be living literally next door to you
>"why?"
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>>170000463
i use to remember it, but forgot how i found out
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>>170000463
Go to all the nearby buildings that look like it, and check for "C. M. Zeriyah" (her legal name) on the buzz in list
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>i can't wait for that anon across the hall to knock on my door unexpectedly...
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>>170000795
yeah why
are you trying to do something to our girl?
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>>170000463
Wait for her at the Blizzard HQ gate and stalk her when she finishes. Then give her the D.
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>>170000957
Its Irvine. The safest city in America. No joke.

There's no "buzz in" list here. This isn't Philly

>>170000976
I would actually avoid her like the plague.
>>
all devs need to be locked up and given a fresh hearthstone account

>reaching legend grants them freedom
>every pack they open is a meal
>>
https://youtu.be/hqkZ_nI9jTo?t=399

Why is Kripp so right about everything?
>>
>>170000463
what is the name of your apartment complex, post the google map and i will let you know if it looks familiar
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>>170000876
Well I live on Alton. No idea if that jogs the memory.

Blizzard HQ is a block away, on Alton & Jenner.
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>>170001086
Can you kill Ben Brode for us?
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>>170001237
Oak Glen Apartment Homes.

The problem is that everything here is owned by the same company, so there's literally like 7 other apartment complex with similar names that all look the fucking same like an overpriced soulless hellhole.
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>>170001239
i remember the place she lived had numbers over the garages, and balconies

and it was like a giant complex that circled the parking lots so its all enclosed
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>>170001205
Brode is a fat fuck
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>>170001442
Yup, that would be it. But they all are like that scattered over Irvine.
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>>170000463

inb4 we are all accomplices to murder and rape
>>
post the hsg tourney stream link
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>>170001581
she might live in like 2114, or around that.

i dont even remember how i found all this shit out, i think i was just going down the rabbit hole one night while drunk

but i remember the apartment had numbers ranging from single digits all the way into the hundreds or thousands

i am pretty sure she lived in irvine not alton
>>
yo, tourney starts at 2:30. dude's running late
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>>170001758
alton is a street name in the city of Irvine

thanks for the info. My complex only has 3 digits max for apartment numbers, so if its 2114 she probably further down in Irvine down by The Irvine Spectrum.
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>>170001196
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>>170001967
it is possible it could have just been 214

you should check your registery for Christina Sims, or Estrada
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>>170001773
so in 15 mins?
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>>170002110
yeah. unless he's still busy then maybe longer.
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>>170002253
i choose to believe you are a good natured human and aren't taking me for a ride here
>>
Tourneyguy just posted on Discord, the show is cancelled due to family happenings. Says he's sorry.
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>>170002407
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>>170002530
don't believe that guy. this is what he said.
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>>170002407
Fuck that guy I will make the tournament
everyone get in here
twitchdottv/kolento
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>>170002621
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>>170002621
is that a jojo reference?
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>>170002840
Yes
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/hsg/ general & tournament discord https://discord.gg/NVBCXr2
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>>170002621
We really need someone else to organize tournament. Jesus christ we have them like once per year and their schedule is completely fucked up. Also all the freeze and shit because mister is using a fucking mac
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>>170003149
maybe so but what exactly do you expect from a bunch of grown men playing a children's card game? i'm happy we at least get something.
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>>170003149
then do it yourself m8
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>>170003446
I didn't expect much but still am surprised

>>170003476
I don't have enough time for that sadly. I wish, when I'll do have the time I will.
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how do I get lucky?

every match I play as pirate warrior starts with me drawing after mulligan every 3+ drop, no weapons and patches

every fucking game
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Okay since i know someone from Blizzard is browsing this thread from time to time i have a suggestion for the quest visuals in the game.

Ben please consider this for the sake of all of us here.

The ingame visuals for the quests look very boring. A quest should excite the person that plays it. It needs to feel "epic" and the progress visuals should give this primeval feelings. Instead of having it appear like a paladin secret what about adding a progress line like in pic related with mini checkpoints on it which move according to the progress of the quest. It gives a feeling like the player is actually on an adventure through Un'goro. With proper visuals you have at your disposal you can make this look fantastic and i believe its a major improvement over the current boring quest visual
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/hsg/ EU semifinals & grand finals starting in a few minutes
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Stream to start imminently with klandri - Sayonara.

Speaking of which, Sayonara, please get online lel.
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post the stream axelweutbhjwqebtq;jwet
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>>170004193
/axolotlhooves
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>>170004193
twitch
.tv/axolotlhooves
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Does the game keep crashing for anyone else on iOS since the new patch?
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>>170004309
>>170004423
thanks senpai
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Why the fuck does Blizzard keep releasing the Heroic Tavern Brawl right before an expansion? People just aren't going to fall for it, especially now that this is the second time they tried it.

Just release it right after the expansion drops and now you've got an enormous gold vacuum.

It's not even a matter of being greedy, it's just stupid. If their goal is to vacuum up gold so players spend more real money this is how you do it. You drop the brawl after the gold people were saving was spent on the expansion, not the other way around and you just pray that they're retarded.
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Eu semifinals started
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>>170004834
>Just release it right after the expansion drops and now you've got an enormous gold vacuum.
nigga people stack gold NOW. everyone is broke after the expansion hit
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>>170005078
Don't care.
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Hey Pizza boy, what's wrong with your chat?
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>>170004465
It's a bug on iOS, don't tap on opponent's played cards to skip animations. I know it's hard, but keep your fingers away during their turn.
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>>170005221
And now you have a bunch of people who want into the Heroic Tavern Brawl with no gold. Since the expansion literally just dropped the meta is unsolved and people are 100x more likely to want in. This basically forces people to relocate pack money or buy in. Either way Blizzard wins.
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>>170005308
>>170004465
does it make the screen flash and go black so you have to restart it entirely?
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>>170005404
>15000 people in queue
about that...

i wanna play but i'm gonna wait on someone to play with instead
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>>170005661
No, it just instantly closes the game. Happened a lot of times when I played on my friend's iPhone
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>>170001260
>implying Brode couldn't destroy any of you with his bare hands
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>>>/v/369265164

Trying this "choose my Arena Deck" thing again. Hopefully the thread won't die like the last one.
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>>170004465
Since the patch, I earn the Galaxy cardback every time I open the game on my S7
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When does the year of the Mammoth starts? I dont want to miss the free dust, I have enough right know for both rag and sylv
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What are the stats so far on standard arena? Any clear tier list yet?
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>>170009625
before April 30, 2017
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>>170003697

>every game

Probably a 3 game sample size.

Fuck off with your "unlucky" rank 18 fuckhead garbage mentality.
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what's kolento's appeal
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>>170010968
autism

autists relate to that, thats why so many people watch trump
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>>170011404
If I had the auts i'd probably watch amaz or lifecoach
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trump and thijs are our auts
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If you play shaman you are the cancer
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What's the most worthwhile content I can spend $20 as a beginner?

I have the welcome bundle and have opened a handful of free/gold bought packs but I want to increase my collection, a little at a time of course.

Should I just get classic packs or what?
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>>170012403
>What's the most worthwhile content I can spend $20 as a beginner?
A game on steam

I'd start with FTL and Golf with Friends
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>>170012403
If it's already in Bnet funbucks then your best bet would be buying the karazhan adventure. It's the only one that isn't cycling this year.
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>>170012403
if you just wanna have some fun and not feel too cheated, karazhan

for any of the card packs i think you will find 20 is gonna be pretty disappointing, classic is good but you need a lot of the cards
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>>170012585
>>170012730
>>170012840
Well, I appreciate the honesty.

its starting to sound like this game isn't even worth playing unless I'm willing to drop hundreds of dollars on cards. Might as well just cut my losses here.
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>>170013268
try shadowverse there you can play and earn properly from playing
hs you can't and they seemingly cripple stuff to get you to pay
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>>170013268
either pay or be prepared to grind for a long time and choose a couple of decks to play because you wont have dust for everything you want
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50 more wins with this godawful cheap class

What deck can I use to cleanse my palette of this shaman stink
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>>170013268
Beyond adventures, the starter pack, and preorders, it's generally not a good ROI when compared to just earning gold for free.
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>warrior doesn't attack with patches
I thought it was a joke.
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>>170013953
Happened to me today.
Fucker still won because i didn't draw any answers.
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>>170013517
eh, I WANT to play this if anything... It's just discouraging to see responses like "well, if you spend $20 on this you might not feel completely cheated.'

I was hoping there would be some better beginner friendly options beyond the welcome bundle.

>>170013542
Yeah that's what I'm trying to do but people are saying it's still going to be disappointing so what's the point?

>>170013779
eh, these adventures sound fuckimg stupid to desu, especially when it looks like they rotate out periodically.

This game stinks.
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>>170014641
Just play Wild like everyone else then.
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>>170014641
HS is NOT a free to play game, despite Blizzard advertising it as one.
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>>170014641
it sucks big time dude pretty sure everyone gets mad about it daily but it's not like we can take a bunch of good ideas and make the game way friendlier like so many other games now do
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>>170014641
Adventures have retarded dust value even if you hate the cards.
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Grand Final of the EU tournament starting now. Come check it out.

twitch.
tv/axolotlhooves
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>>170015413
youre offline right now, andy
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>No card reveals till the 17th

Why must they do this to us senpaitachi
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>every aggro deck is using some finja niggershit

Fuck man FUCK when they have finja in their opening hand
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>>170015776
Fug, fixed it.
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shadowverse new expansion already has more card reveals than ungoro lmao
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I hope reckful streams again on expansion launch day and is super butthurt about Kripp having all the viewers like last time
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post the imgur of na avatars
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>>170015948
To be fair, it is coming out before Un'goro too.
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>>170016210
dont make fun of reckfur or i will eat you
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I had fun in the tourney at least, thanks /hsg/
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>>170014712
Won't I be at an even bigger disadvantage as a beginner?

>>170014748
Never thought it was, i was just hoping there would be more value in dropping $20 as a beginner.

>>170014858
They should hire me, I'm an idea guy.

>>170014859
But again, I'm just starting out, so does that same dust value still apply? I wouldn't even want to dust them, is want to try using them.

When I look through the Kara cards, I definitely see things I could use in my already existing decks but the 'this might go out of rotation' aspect worries me.

I'm completely willing to spend money on the game, I just can't do a lot right now so $20 is really my limit.
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> tfw previous best was 5

I'm scared hsg, hold me. This mage deck doesnt even include firelands portal
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I want Malygos
I dont have the dust
I have 300 gold
I'm gonna yolo it
Wish me luck
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Cunnyverse wins again
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>>170016380
amaz>reckful
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>>170016918
C U N N Y V E R S E
W I N S
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where do I sing up to suck your dick, sayonara
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>>170017101
>>170014575
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>>170016564
It takes 2 years for cards to leave Standard, and if anything in Classic leaves (which isn't regular) you get a full refund.
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>>170017139
I'm not going in there, friend
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>>170017270
Truly a game for poorfags and plebs
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>>170017270
The picture doesn't tell how valuable is a pack in each game
Three points must be considered:
1. How much gold for a pack?
2. How much real money for a pack?
3. The most important one. How far does a pack let you advance your collection? To answer this question, it is necessary to analyze the contents of a set, the probability of finding a card of each rarity, the number of cards in a pack, the average dust value of a pack, and the dust value of the most rare kind of card.

As long as all these three points haven't had a precise answer, your picture means nothing.
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i still cant believe how dead this shit is
fucking game prints money and costs pennies to maintain, yet no effort is put into it

blizzard should force team5 to do a 60 minute stream everyday where they communicate and answer questions

give those sacks of shit something to do all day
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>>170017861
Hey anon, those devs need time to buy food and take care of their families
Be grateful the game is free ;)
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>>170017825
No matter what, the outcome is the same. Cunnyverse always wins.
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>>170017825
>As long as all these three points haven't had a precise answer, your picture means nothing.
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>>170017996

>zeriyah will never teach you her makeup skills for when you're her age
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Good job to all competitors of the /hsg/ EU tournament, and a special congrats to Champion Sayonara.

The NA tournament will start at 7pm EST. I have to get some worthwhile food in my gut before then, so derp, Syndere, get your decks together and let's get ready to party, American style.
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>>170018023
what do you mean, its all natural, no makeup or photoshop at all
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>>170017197
Is Kara considered to be classic?

In terms of ensuring I get some decent cards, it seems to be the way to go but it'll suck if it rotates out next year
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>>170017825
1
100g for 8 cards in sv
100g for 5 cards in hs
and sv has better legendary drop rates

2
2 for sv (1 if you buy one a day because there is a daily deal)
1.50 for hs

3
no clue but sv cards are overall better it seems from people being able to more easily create decks that work well enough even if they don't have all the cards exactly
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>>170018203
People bitch about kaza but if you use pure math you will see that 80% are great cards that are used a lot. Kaza is top tier.
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>Get a 72 point Mage Deck with 3 Portals, 2 Bomb Girls, 2 Flamestrikes

>3-3

I don't know why I bother trying to be good at anything. I should know that all I ever will be is mediocre.
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Final Placements:
Champion - Sayonara
2nd place - Erakhe
3rd place - ComputerEasy
4th place - klandri

5th - Myrak
6th - Blue, Mohzez, Velka

9th - dervis, Piesank, SakuraFish, TheCoolOneMC
13th - HappyFeet, JiggyWlt420
15th - Flibikazoah, TheDarkRider

17th - BlueMun
18th - Falant
Didn't Show up - Pythagoras, SeiferLizard
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>stay up to watch the hsg tourney
>its pushed back by an hour because fucking shithead andy cant min/mix food
PRO STREAMERS EAT ON STREAM REEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>170018405

anime wins yet again
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>>170018405
>>170018080
weebs win again.
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>>170018080
what are the first matches?
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>>170017971
Not saying otherwise, I don't know this game. If I asked for clarification, it's because your picture alone doesn't make sense and because I'm genuinely interested with the answers.

>>170018278
Thanks!

>>170017996
Uh, do you believe I'm trying to defend Hearthstone? If I follow your logic, it is better to live in an African country than in the US, since the currency there goes in the trillions per day in an average wage :^) I'm just asking for a bit of logic, anon. Comparing the gains of gold without giving any knowledge of the actual value of gold in these games is meaningless, and saying that is not taking a party, it's just being reasonable.
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>>170018278
you conveniently """"forgot"""" the fact that you need 3 of a legendary in cunnyverse and only 1 in HS
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>>170018585
You forgot that a shadowverse pack is 8 cards and on average 50% of those are rare or better.

Legendary per 10 packs.
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>>170018585
you get legends much more often in SV
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>>170018585
Ow, that's brutal. How about the dust system in cunnyverse? How does it work? Is it easy to craft legendaries?
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>>170018558
http://challonge.com/BennyBrodesLockerNA

>>170018629
>>170018656
Bruhs. You have a general thread.
>>>/svg/
Like, I don't get it. Go there.
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>>170018697

Their game is so shit they have to come over here to recruit for it or it'll die.
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>>170018585
you don't need 3 in many cases it just makes you more consistent from the chance to draw one
i have sv for a month and didn't spend anything didnt do quest daily only when i wanted to play a bit, 17 legendaries
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>>170018694
they dust for 1000(golden for 2500) and require 3500 to craft
>>170018629
since we've established cunnyverse legendary is worth 1/3 of a HS legendary, it's more like 1 per 30
HS you get a legendary every 20 packs on (((average)))
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>>170018697
You have your own board, go there.
>>>/trash/
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>>170018813
>HS you get a legendary every 20 packs on (((average)))
BWAHAHHAHAHAHA

Shills in full force tonight
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>>170018813
That's not really true, you can still play 1 or 2 copies.
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>>170018908
That's statistically true though
Doesn't mean it's rare to get only 1 legendary in 50 packs, just means that it's just as common to get 3
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>>170018813
in hs you need to dust 4 legendaries to craft one
in weebuniverse you need to dust 3.5 legendaries to craft one
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i'm confused why tourney guy gets to advertise here

any other streamer would be banned
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What kind of card would Blizzard have to reveal that would make you preorder the expansion on the spot?
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>>170018975
of course, you can play garbage decks and stay in B0 MEGALUL
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>>170017996
Wew shes hot
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>>170018998
In shadowverse you get 450+ dust from each pack, only like 100 in HS.
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>>170018813
>>170018998
What's the average dust value of one pack in cunnyverse? In Hearthstone it's 100 dust. (Of course, you'll only get 100 dust if you disenchant everything in the pack.)
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>>170019042
would be great if hs gave that option to new players who make it to rank 20
i bet they would love being able to play normal games in one of the beginner ranks
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>>170019018
you post your stream too anon
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>>170019107
>*In Heartstone it's 40 dust.
FTFY
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>>170019081
this picture is 5 years older
before she started photoshopping her pics
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>>170019018
he is streaming this board m8
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>>170019038
Rager synergy minion or spell
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(((100 dust average)))

here's your 100 dust average lmao
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>>170019207
Nope. 40 dust is the minimal value of a pack, not the average value. 40 dust is what you get if your pack contains 4 commons and 1 rare, as well as 0 golden. The average is 100 because you can get more than 1 rare per pack, as well as golden, epic, or legendary cards.
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>>170019130
there should be more gaps in ranks in hs, like it isn't really 20 ranks when there's like a 3win difference between most, there should be more ranks
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>>170018345
I can see the value of them in my deck certainly, I'm just worried about longevity and I'm still confused as to whether or not it's considered classic since that other anon brought it up, I can't tell if that was the implication or if he was just mentioning it. I don't quite yet understand all the classifications of card and what not.
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>>170019038
Class legendary that is a better Justicar for warrior only
Quest that deletes jade cards from my opponents deck

>>170019318
Ok shill
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>every single ladder match at Rank 4 is a coinflip
>constantly either hard countering an opponent or running into my own deck's hard counter
>tfw playing 10 minutes games of rock-paper-scissors
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Stop talking about weebverse
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>>170019345
look at the card, there is symbol on a text field.
Spiral is for classic, tentacle for old gods, tower for karazhan etc.
Blank space is for basic cards you get for free.
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>>170019473
But I'm tired of Hearthstone Varg
So very tired
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>>170019318
>The average is 100 because you can get more than 1 rare per pack,
stop lying, at best the average is 60-70 dust
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>>170020186
Nope, there are statistics anon, and you can find them easily on google. However, as I already stated, you only get 100 dust per pack on average if you disenchant everything, which you don't.
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>>170019545
Okay thanks... Not sure why that other anon brought up the classic card thing since it had nothing to do with Kara but whatever.
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*dusts kazakus, aya and patches*
hey nice, 100 dust average :)
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>>170020507
Patches and Aya are the most degenerate cards ever printed. You'd better dust them.
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when your team doesn't qualify for one of the coolest tourneys and you get to stay home to play gwent
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>>170020292
>you only get 100 dust per pack on average if you disenchant everything
and only if you open 500 packs
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>>170020507
Cards you don't disenchant still participate to the dust value of your pack. In fact, if you get a legendary in your pack and don't disenchant it, the dust value of your pack is not increased by 400, it is increased by 1600, so the fact that you don't disenchant everything should only increase the average pack dust value. However, such things haven't been taken into account when calculating the average dust value of 100. 100 is only if you disenchant everything, which you don't. That means that the actual average dust value of a pack in Hearthstone is in fact more than 100.

>>170020740
No, statistics don't work that way. It's an average, that's all. If you pick a single pack, the dust value can be 40 or 1600 (or even more).
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>>170019038
20 mana molten giant for warlock only.
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What's the banlist for the NA tourney?
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100 dust average? wow
better get that pre-order with such great value
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>>170020813
40-8000
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>>170020827
http://pastebin.com/vMxNCM5d
there you go
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>>170020813
>No, statistics don't work that way. It's an average, that's all. If you pick a single pack, the dust value can be 40 or 1600 (or even more).
no thats not how it works, you arent going to average 100 dust opening 10 packs because stupid faggot shills like you count golden epics and legendarys in your "math"


average dust value from a pack is not 100 unless you open a ridiculous amount
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>>170020890

What are you talking about, a single 50 pack pre-order gives you 50% of the collection :) just ask reddit.
>>
>Blizzard doesnt hire people to make Hearthstone better
>They hire people to lie and sell the game online

I preordered 50 packs of mean streets when it came out, and got all golden legendary cards in each pack!
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>>170021015
>Luckydo Buccaneer
I have never seen this card.
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>>170021005
Yes, on average the dust value of pack is always 100, the number of packs doesn't change a thing to the content of a pack. In a single pack, the chance to get a golden, epic or legendary is always the same, whether you buy 1 pack, 10, or 50. It doesn't mean that the dust you will get within 10 packs will be 1000. It only means that, if we count the dust value or 10 packs 10000 times, on average it is 1000. If you're lucky, you'll get more than 1000, and if you're not, you'll get less. Of course, as I already stated, these numbers are only true if you disenchant everything.
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>>170021015

>tfw $100 isn't even guaranteed to get 75% of the cards in an expansion, even with dust

(((They))) sure have a good business model going
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>>170021005
You don't seem to understand how statistics work, friendo. The quantity of packs opened doesn't matter when calculating the overall average value of a pack. The likelihood of opening a 40 dust pack is higher than opening an 8000 dust one, but the figure being calculated is what the average between every possible outcome (weighted in turn by likelihood) is.

Then again this is a SV player I'm talking to so they probably can't think beyond which game has more little girl titties.
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>>170021238
yes it does moron, if you open 39 packs and get no legendary card, the average dust per pack is going to be much different if you buy that 40th pack

of course you being a shill ignore that, and lie about the average (of people opening 500 packs of a single set) applies to a normal player

>>170021317
retard
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>>170021239
What are you talking about? This 100 pack simulation clearly shows 75% of the important cards owned.
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>>170021317
>titties
no
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>>169995771
how can people be this bad at the game? every month since i started I've been hitting at least rank 5 on the minimum, this game is so fucking braindead. you don't even have to do any work, just play the cards in your hand, jesus
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>>170018517
LOL
>>
>average player will only open 100-150 packs of a single expansion AT MOST
>HURR DURR AVERAGE IS 100 DUST
>all these average numbers are taken from people that opened 500-1000 packs

go find out the average dust after opening 50 packs

who the fuck are you cucks even trying to convince in these threads

there are no new players here, go shill on /reddit/
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>>170021386
Just like if the first pack you open is 5 golden legendaries the dust average is going to be much higher than if you open another 8 packs to find 40 dust each.

Go to fucking high school.
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desu the only other good card games are pokemon and mtg
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>>170021532
the chances of you getting 5 golden legos in one pack is much smaller than the chance of you getting 40 dust in a single pack

maybe if you were OUT of highschool you would understand that when factoring into the math blizzard is telling you to sell
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>>170021531
40 packs is where your argument is exhausted due to the existence of the pity timer. It's entirely random variance and if you weren't an idiot you would know opening more packs beyond the pity timer reset doesn't make later ones magically more valuable.
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>Blizzard has shills in dead threads with barely 100 posters active.

Kek, they are desperate.
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>>170021748
No Your Wrong Shill!!
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I was talking to my friend earlier. He moved to the features team last month and started working on something "REALLY COOL" that has been commonly suggested across the community.

He says it isn't Un'Goro related, and will come out some time after the expansion.

Apparently it will be something that every type of player will like. Call me a shill or whatever, but this news is something to be excited about. There is hope.

screencap this post if you doubt me

I think it's going to be tourney mode
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>>170021386
You don't seem to understand the concept of "average". When we talk about average, we're talking in absolutes, we're not talking about what you've got in a specific instance. If your pack contains just 60 dust rather than 100, you're under the average. If your 10 packs contained only such packs, that is to say, if you got only 600 dust in those rather than the average of 1000, you're still under the average when comparing your packs to the absolute number instances. If you take ALL Hearthstone packs ever opened in the universe, add their dust value, and divide the result by the number of packs, you still get 100.
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>>170021748
Put up or shut up faggot, stream yourself opening 50 packs

Since you know you will get 100 dust it is worth it
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>>170021657
That doesn't change how that chance of 8000 dust increases the average. You're saying that people who open thousands of packs magically get more valuable packs.

If 100 people open 40 packs, the value should be identical to 1 player opening 4000. The one player doesn't magically get better pulls because he opened more.
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>>170021824
Call your friend a faggot, since everytime you have posted here about news he gave you and how "exciting" it was everything has been a major let down and failure on Team5s part
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>>170021845
kys cuck shill

wow, that was an easy argument to rebuke
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>>170021915
Thanks for helping me here dude, I'm glad there's not just morons here.

The worst is that I don't even defend Hearthstone, I still believe that Blizzard are fucking jews, but the fact remains that 100 is the dust average of a Hearthstone card pack.
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>>170021887
>>170021915
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>>170021915
>The one player doesn't magically get better pulls because he opened more.
Hearthstone is a slot machine, you need to learn how slot machines work.

If you believe this, you are dumb.
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I suck at drafting and need advice. Do i go for the dragon synergy or pick up another portal. I also have faerie dragon.
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>>170019038
The only thing that could keep me interested in this game is a tournament mode that Blizzard and other third party sites can use to host tournaments, even for Championship qualifiers/points

Too bad it will literally never happen
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>>170022145
Did you even read the rest of the post.

>Scenario 1
4000 packs over 100 players
>Scenario 2
4000 packs over 1 player

Literally the exact same number of packs opened, akin to the exact same number of pulls on a slot machine.
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>>170022259
end ur self
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>>170022145
I know nothing about casinos, but I know that the pack generator in Hearthstone is based on random number generations, and that the chance to get a card of a specific rarity is always the same for each pack independently of the number of packs you bought. The only exception to this is the pity timer, which still applies to everyone in the same way.
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>>170022162
>three dragons total
you don't have enough to justify sorcerer on synergy alone
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the average is clearly closer to 400dusts I mean just take into account all those screenshots that get posted here saying 'guess the lego' You don't see any saying 'guess the rare' do you?
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>>170022259
>>170021915
it doesnt work that way because of golden drop rates, what do YOU not get about that?

the only reason people throw around the 100 average number is because its based on people buying 500+ packs on one account and DROPPING more golden cards in them
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>>170022162
FIRELANDS PORTAL
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>>170022319
>>170022062
>>170021887
>>170021784
>>170021386
Wow, I honnestly didn't think 4chan was that full of two-digit IQ people.
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>>170022029
Like what? I'll usually just post if the brawl will be new and crazy or an old one.

Back in at the start of wotog reveals he told me that one of the old gods was going to be crazier rng than anything anyone has ever seen

I don't think I had any good reveals for msog
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Average dust from a back is 70 dust at best

>>170022462
Excellent job refuting with absolutely nothing kid.

Stream it or shut up. Maybe if you ask your boss real nice they will let you use the official account.
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>new expansion gets announced
>feel hyped, decide to start playing again
>finish some quests, play tavern brawl, open a few packs, net 200 dust
>already feel the enthusiasm fading after a few games on ladder (pic related)
Back to twitch I guess.
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>>170022375
The calculations for averages are not made based on best packs opened, moron. You take 1000 packs (whether they come from 1 or 1000 players doesn't change anything) and count the dust in everyone of them. Result: 100 per pack on average. What do you fail to understand, brainlet?
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>>170022385
So you're saying that gold cards become more common as you open more packs, and your only evidence for this is "because I said so"?
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these nerfs really hit my Jade Shaman deck hard lol
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>>170022464
You revealed the Classic cards being rotate out, turns out Blizzard is just jewing us out of dust

You said a bunch of "big changes" were coming, and we lost adventures making the game more expensive

We got two shitty nerfs and no buffs to other cards

Everytime news comes out the game just gets worse
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>>170022234
Then you'll be delighted to hear Heroic Tavern Brawl is making a return next week!
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>>170022627
>So you're saying that gold cards become more common as you open more packs, and your only evidence for this is "because I said so"?
Are you actually retarded? Gold cards become more common as you open more packs.... because you open more packs

Hard to grasp concept isnt it?

Roll a 20 sided di 5 times, then roll in 200 times and count how much more often numbers come up
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>>170022668
>turns out Blizzard is just jewing us out of dust

They are giving full refund without needing to dust. How is that jewing?
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>>170022595
1.You just replied to a joke post
2.A person has to buy 1000 packs for that to be relevant information
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>>170022664
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average is something you specify
it is based on the sum as the limit approaches infinity
that's where the 100 value comes from, it is correct

the thing what the other side is saying is how relevant is that to a player opening packs when their amount does not approach infinity?
it's more reasonable to fill in the sum for the average as the actual numbers of packs opened and not put in the limit as it approaches infinity
for that we will get a dust value that's clearly below 100

that's the average dust value that the majority of players sees and gets value from
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>>170022819
Is rolling a 20-sided die 100 times any different than 100 people rolling a 20-sided die once?

The answer is no.
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>>170022820
because you only get dust for 1 legend or 2 commons
because you only get dust for either golden or common, not both
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>>170022773
>capable of releasing shitty $10 ticket tavern brawl
>can't create basic tournament mode that's existed in MTG since the dawn of time

i want to kick ben brode in the teeth
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>>170022326
Do you have stats on this? Is the chance on first pack after opening a legendary the same as on 39th? Are you sure it doesn't use the same kind of distribution as crits in WC3 (and Dota2)?
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>>170022918
wutface
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or put differently say we each open 10 packs

our average dust value across all packs will be 100

but it will be because one of us opens a golden legendary and literally everyone else opens jack shit

is it then fair to say we all should treat packs as having an average dust value of 100 when clearly almost all of us are seeing garbage dust values?
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>>170022935
>I can't game le system and craft a bunch of legos for le free dust
>Bli$$ard is jewing me xDDDD
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>>170022668
I didn't say big changes were coming, I said there was a lot of stuff being revealed at once. Or at least thats what I remember my friend telling me

maybe I did say big changes, fuck I forget

Also he now sits a few desks down from good ol BENNY B and apparently when Blue's video staryed being big on reddit he was laughing so hard that everyone gathered around to see what it was.
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>>170022918
Thats not how packs work in hearthstone you fucking clown

you are just trolling at this point

Drop rates in hearthstone are PREDETERMINED, you get legendarys you get goldens you get epics rares and commons all by design

the more packs you open the more "good" cards you get
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>>170022918
yea becuase the 100 people have separate pity timers

check and mate SHILL
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Safe to say that the loss of Thalnos + Spirit + Bucc combo is huge for Shaman, both Aggro and Midrange
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>>170022326
how can that be right when we had the chinese rollback fiasco that showed that the rng seed number has predetermined your rarity rng in it
gambling sites would use this so that the calculation can be verified to see it wasn't messed with by showing that the system was supposed to roll a certain outcome (thats where the csgo gambling scandals come from)

also the graph i remember seeing has a sharp upward stream from 30-35 to 40 as the pity timer kicks into full effect to make sure that legendary drops
so every pack in that sense is not the chance
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>>170022869
>>170023036
THIS
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>>170023158
>>170023252
This "enhanced luck" stops after 40 packs when the pity timer expires and you're back to hard RNG until the next pity timer expires.

That's why literally every figure I gave with actual packs was a multiple of 40.

Of course, retards can't seem to keep more than one number in their head at a time, which is why they think Blizzard has an irrational desire to make their life in particular miserable.
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>>170023434
>This "enhanced luck" stops after 40 packs when the pity timer expires and you're back to hard RNG until the next pity timer expires.
No it doesnt retard
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http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Card_pack_statistics

27 868 card packs for 139 340 cards in total.
71.65% of common.
22.84% or rare.
4.42% of epic.
1.10% of legendary.

Also, for 75 545 cards, 2.06% of common cards, 5.54% of rare cards, 4.52% of epic cards and 7.31% of legendary cards are golden.

The total is 98.25 dust per pack on average.
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>>170023330
did you come to that conclusion all by yourself?
wew
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>>170023434
>HURRR DDUUUUUR
>IF 1000 people open 1 pack each, the dust average will be the same as one person opening 1000 packs

how can one shill be so retarded
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Instead of the average dust value per pack, you should consider the median value instead.
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>>170023478
[citation needed]

>>170023602 (You)
*replies to poster that didn't read the post*
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>>170023503
wow, its almost like your average increases when you open thousands of packs, because of predetermined drop rates on golden cards, that require you opening hundreds of packs to get

thank you for proving the point
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"Average" value of a pack might be 100 dust but it still feels like at least 80% of packs are 40 dust. Every individual pack is more likely to be 40 dust than anything else, but it's offset by the very small chance that you'll get a high value pack. It's like how slot machines on average pay out almost as much as you put in: you still lose 90% of the time, win pocket change 9% of the time, and 1% of the time you win enough to drag up the payout ratio almost to one.
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If anyone needs 80g on NA, add Tomdorf#1394. Accepting first invite
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>>170023539
lots of fags here and on reddit were saying that Shamanstone would continue after the nerfs

I'm just pointing out how that couldn't be further from the truth
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>>170023503
nobody is disputing the average dust over an infinity amount of packs isn't 100

they are saying it's not relevant to users because nobody will open those amounts of packs, thus they experience a different average

when you calculate average for example the number of steps to walk to the bathroom, we can all do this and it depends on where our bathroom is.
we can make a combined average of what our number of steps to the bathroom is.
it literally isn't useful because i still need 15 steps and the guy next to me needs 30 steps
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>>170023718
>Opening more packs increases the chance of getting a golden card
[citation needed]
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>>170023718
That's funny, do you also believe that man has in fact never set foot on the moon and that reptilian people control the United States government in secret?
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>>170023751
>"Average" value of a pack might be 100 dust but it still feels like at least 80% of packs are 40 dust.
because the average is based on accounts that opened thousands of packs and got golden legendaries, which you have to open between 150-300 packs to get
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>>170023434
>hurrp duuurp pls brode shit in my mouth mmh i want to eat shit all day hurr
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>>170023828
wew trying real hard tactics now shill
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>>170023824
The average dust over 40 packs is 100, because that's the maximum drought you can go before the pity timer expires. 40 packs is an extremely reasonable figure for the average player to open.
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>>170023824
The average doesn't change, but what you get can be more or less than the average. That's called R A N D O M N E S S .
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>>170023645
averages are basically always never used in hard statistics, especially in situations like this where the outputs are this top heavy

it's like talking about the average gains of playing the lottery, fucking retarded
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>>170023773
mid jade shaman will become the next iteration of shaman i'm sure, but it's unlikely to be quite as oppressive as aggro due to lacking pressure

currently rank 6 with mid jade and get eaten alive by jade druids unless i run a much more aggressive version that suffers against pirate warrior/aggro rogue
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>>170023878
How is recognizing the statistic facts being a blizzdrone? Noone here even is defending Blizzard. The indisputable fact that a Hearthstone pack contains 100 dust on average doesn't change the fact that Blizzard are huge jews and that Hearthstone is not designed to be fun but to make money.
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WAKE UP SHEEPLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUIcCyPOA30
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>>170023961
>The average dust over 40 packs is 100
No, it isnt. Because you arent going to be opening that many golden cards in 40 packs
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>>170024003
The problem with median values is it neglects that exact chance of a top-heavy result. Let's say there was the following figure for the lottery.
>51% chance of nothing
>49% of $10 billion
The median gain would be $0, neglecting the potentially absurd payoff.
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>blizzard has honest to god shills patrolling this thread

whew
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>>170024110
Uh, yes, if you're not unlucky you definitely are.
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>>170024178
Yeah, when they dont have OC to steal I guess this is what they do.

And of course Zeriyah got scared off the internet because she tried posting here. Now all her social media is private.
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>>170024102
>hurrp give me more shit plz i love eating shit durrr
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>>170024178
it really makes me consider whether all the zeriyah posts are actually work colleagues trying to live out a fantasy
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>>170024220
Feel free to stream it.
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Maybe we should start with defining """""""Average""""""
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>>170024110
It is *unlikely* that I will open a lot of golden cards in 40 packs, but the only reason people who open 4000 packs get more is because there's a larger sample size. The results would be exactly the same if 100 different people opened 40 packs each. The per-pack chance is exactly the same over multiples of 40.

In another example, if I flipped a coin 10 times, the amount of "heads" I should get is about 5. If I flipped it 100 times, it would be 50. You are saying flipping the coin more *increases* the chance of getting a "heads" result, which is inherently false. It's literally gambler's fallacy. The results are the same if I flip a coin 100 times, or if 100 people flip it once.
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>spend a few seconds extra on turn 1 grabbing a drink
>guy proceeds to rope me every turn
>get this after the game
>instantly deletes me afterwards
and this was when i was playing a meme deck in casual. what is wrong with these faggots?
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>>170024103
The top option is much more sensible.
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>I don't believe the mainstream statistics recognized by everyone out there are true!
>Everyone is lying!
>This is a conspiracy!
>Everyone who disagrees with me is a blizzdrone that will defend Blizzard no matter what!
>BLAH BLAH BLAH NOT LISTENING NOT LISTENING
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>>170024467
Quick strawman harder
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy
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>>170024420
>In another example, if I flipped a coin 10 times, the amount of "heads" I should get is about 5. If I flipped it 100 times, it would be 50.
Flipping a coin is not predetermined , why does everyone arguing the 100 dust average not realize this.

The "average" dust in hearthstone exists because once you exhaust every outcome that fits the formula it works out that way. But it only has on accounts that have opened hundreds of packs
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>>170024467
this imo
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>>170024467
>redditors recognize these statistics so obviously we all should!
tip that fedora harder, nerd
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>>170024420
>>170024583
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>>170022580
I know what you feel but I have hope in the next expansion Priest will be finally tier 1
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>>170024103
>the pedophiles control the world
Will Cunnyverse ever stop winning?
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>>170024431
I'm not that bad, but after a shit ton of games where someone takes 30 seconds for an obvious hero power or pass their turn with no mana, I sometimes get salty and rope for a couple of turns until they either play faster out of frustration or we take turns roping each other

it's probably not healthy but it's incredibly agitating to have certain games with braindead decisions take 10-15 minutes longer than they needed to because someone was talking to their friends or watching a movie at the same time
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>Shills want to sell 100 dust average in 40 packs
>none are willing to put their money where their mouth is

Funny.
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>statistics
>relevant in a deterministic world
Debate me
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>>170024160
yes but in this case it's 95% chance of 40 dust 5% chance of 400 dust
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>>170024593
All the results are exhausted after 40 packs have been opened and the pity timer resets if it was exhausted. Gold cards are completely random and aren't impacted at all by how many packs you open. Your argument revolves around a player opening more packs getting more gold cards (correct), and thus the chance for a gold card increases with more packs opened (false)

If I flip a coin once, the chance of it being "heads" at least once is 50%

If I flip a coin 1 million times, the chance of it being "heads" at least once is close to 100%, but this doesn't mean flipping the coin a lot makes a "heads" outcome any more likely.
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>>170024776
Wow, so you actually believe that 40 packs is big enough of a sample to make reliable statistics. That's funny. I start understanding why you're so dummy-dumb-dumb.

Also, statistics already exist, I don't understand why you ask for more.

Also, noone actually said that 100 dust per pack is a lot. Are you assuming that it is and that I should instantly spend all of my money on Hearthstone packs just because 100 dust per pack is the reality? Breaking news: 100 dust per pack is what you're already experiencing right now, and it is not much, and saying that is not defending Blizzard.
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Show's starting, we got the NA tournament starting now.

twitch.
tv/axolotlhooves
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>>170021824
>He moved to the features team last month and started working on something "REALLY COOL" that has been commonly suggested across the community.

A fucking checkbox to keep opponents squelched?
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>>170025023
Thinking of sponsoring a tournament this July through you, where can I contact you?
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Would you pay 100 dust for a pack? No?

There you go
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>Breath of the Wild just released
>Path of Exile 2.6 just released
>Hearthcucks are STILL willingly getting fucked in the ass by Bli$$ard

Remember to spend $50 on a preorder that will get you less than 15% of epics on average, goyim
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>>170024770
sometimes i get distracted when my half-hearted fapping turns into full-hearted fapping

sorry any opponents that happened to
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>>170024952
>All the results are exhausted after 40 packs have been opened and the pity timer resets if it was exhausted.
You already said this and were proven wrong by gold cards
>Gold cards are completely random
This is also wrong, Golden legendaries almost always pop up around 200+ packs are opened

>>170025019
You are a idiot, you dont even realize how stupid you are.

PACKS ARE PREDETERMINED
YOU WILL OPEN MORE GOLDEN CARDS THE MORE PACKS YOU OPEN
THE DROP RATES ARE MADE THIS WAY

The average dust for 40 packs, is different than the average dust for 160 packs
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>>170025134
>Golden legendaries always appear after 200+ packs
[citation needed]

Also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy

Read that page. Tell me what it was about. If you fail to do this I just won't reply because it's clear you don't want an answer and instead want to vent that you didn't win the lottery.
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you can simulate 50 packs with the packr opener thing

under raw and total dust it bounces a lot of 4k and some 5k but also goes to 6k sometimes

so for many 50 packs like that the average is surely again 100

the problem is that when the 4k happens quite a lot, what the average dust value is doesn't really matter because tons of people are not getting the 100 average dust value from their packs

i guess its about the variance being kinda large

the 100 dust average argument seems to imply that you average out 100 dust per pack, this is true. but once again when it takes a lot of packs to get there and tons of people see less, the average dust value of whatever packs they have opened has not averaged to 100 yet. thats where some people take offensive, they find it false to peddle the 100 dust when you need an unreasonable amount of packs to get there leaving many people not able to achieve that value
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My usual dust from a pack is 40 what the fuck
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>>170024640
>>170024593
I've just come recently to the thread so I don't know if someone pointed this out.

The gambler's fallacy would be true for this case if the probabilities in blizzard's packs were the same each pack.
But it is known and I think they admitted it that there is some sort of pity timer chance-modifier.

So the chances of pulling, for example, a legendary, increase every time.

This is why if 40 diferent people open 40 packs the chances might be different and why larger sample sizes are not representative of the actual situation with hearthstone players (few people are able to get 40 packs of the same expansion)

and I'm sure there is aswell a pity time for goldens that is bigger than the one for legendaries, so that further increases the problem.
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>>170025134
>PACKS ARE PREDETERMINED
>YOU WILL OPEN MORE GOLDEN CARDS THE MORE PACKS YOU OPEN
>THE DROP RATES ARE MADE THIS WAY
I will definitely open more golden cards the more packs I open.
You know what? I can go even further.
I WILL OPEN MORE CARDS THE MORE PACKS I OPEN.
Unbelievable, I know.
How stupid are these blizzdrones, haha.
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>>170025118
>He still plays Zelda / Mario games
>He isn't burnt out of PoE yet
>He doesn't want Ben Brode's manly dick in his boipuccy
$50 is chumpchange and I'll have fun building decks for atleast 2 weeks

Stay mad

Bit tits are disgusting
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>>170025271
Gamblers fallacy does not apply to programmed results, fucking troll
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start playing Hearthstone.
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>>170025271
mfw I already had several time a golden legendary in a pack I bought alone for 100 gold
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Blizzshills are in full effect tonight... on a friday no less.

Funny actually.
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>>170025271
>r-read wikipedia! educate yourself, shitlord!
replying to your misunderstandings of 101-level knowledge is beneath anyone's dignity
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desu I'm done with this meta

just not gonna play ranked until Un'Goro comes out
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>oh shit suddenly loads of posts did something happen
>nerds arguing about statistics
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>>170025284
That's normal, it doesn't mean the average isn't 100.
Most packs are 40 dust. Some packs are several thousands. The average is 100.
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>>170025671
0% because Brode rigged the system to make all my packs 40 dust while everyone who spends $400000 on packs gets the gold ball every time.

50%
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>>170025671
100%, because I weighted the boxes beforehand.
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>>170025671
A better scenario would probably be the exact Monty Hall problem, even though your post is a variant of it.
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>>170025671
switching doors is wrong
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>>170025671
50%
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>>169981154
Saving up is going pretty well and with this strategy i think i ll be ready for year of the mammothhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnn9C6iw52Q&feature=youtu.be
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>>170025935
the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnn9C6iw52Q&feature=youtu.be
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>>170025118
Is PoE a decent game? I downloaded it last night thinking the new expansion dropped today, not realizing it was the patch.

My only experience is with D3, is it an easy game to get in to?
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hey guys remember when blizzard allowed control warrior to be gamebreakingly overpowered for like a year just because it was like 14k and 3 expansions to craft

when you think about how dead control warrior is right now the meta really isn't that bad
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>>170025402
stop playing hearthstone
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>>170026063
No, it's not easy

follow a guide for your first time playing, otherwise your build will be horribly suboptimal and you will permanently be unable to clear harder content

I recommend totems, spells, or traps for a first playthrough. anything that scales with %-based damage like melee attacks or critical strikes requires very expensive gear
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>>170026153
thank god Jade cucked that autistic deck
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>>170026063
it's not too bad just follow a build guide for something that is a bit budget and beginner friendly
i think ancestral warchief totem is really great to start with
and then follow the build cuz you wont be able to figure out how to be effective making your own build without knowing anything, plenty of other things to focus on
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>>170025304
There isn't a pity timer for gold cards, just legendaries (which is 40) and epics (which is 10). This resets if the timer is exhausted, or you randomly pull a legendary/epic. This is why a minimum per-player pull of 40 decks is correct for all purposes in this statistical exercise. It's not even a large amount of packs. You get one every 2 days at worst, more if you're not shit at arena.
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>>170025790
The preamble is "picking a gold ball"
there are two times you do that in the double gold one and only once in the mixed box.
Ergo 2/3 chance double gold and 1/3 mixed box.
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>>170025887
it's similar but older than monty hall problem

also easier to fool people with
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>>170026336
but the question starts when you already have one golden ball in your hand
then it's either from the double gold box or the gold silver box
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>>170026494
yes and double gold is twice as likely
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if one were to blow 1000 gold to Kikezzard for the Jewroic Jewvern Jewl, what deck one one jewse?
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>>170026247
>>170026273
thanks anons
i'll do some research myself, but is there a general place to look up this kind of stuff or primers for starting the game?
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>>170026153
But I liked control warrior, like I liked miracle rogue and handlock.
Now all that's left for me is a crippled miracle rogue. Control warrior is a joke in how it runs out of ressources against both highlander and jade and why bother playing control lock if t's not highlander.
>>170026494
Yes and it could be one of the three gold balls. You fail to consider the two gold balls in the same box as separate objects. Just go look up the solution.
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>>170026570
You'd have to be fucking retarded to do that shit

zoolock
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>>170026216
stop not playing Hearthstone.
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how is shaman still not deleted from the game

seriously if the next expansion doesn't purposefully give shaman the very worst cards possibles so the game becomes a 8 class game for at least 5 months this game can fuck off
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>>170026570
Pirate or dragon warrior, probably
deck's still good against a fair amount of the lineup you're likely to see, it's just played less on ladder right now due to STB nerfs
the balance would be between the two main reno decks due to their flexibility and how many jade druids are trying to prey on those decks
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>>170026728
shaman is like tier 2 at best now lel
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>100 average deniers also fail the Monty Hall problem
Hmm... really makes you, wait, actually it doesn't make you think because it's not surprising.
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>>170026561
>>170026610
i get it because when you first go in and get a golden ball, that is more likely to be the case when you went into the double golden ball box, to draw a golden ball out
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If the next expansion is even half as bad as MSOG was I can honestly see the game dying

There is no doubt MSOG is by far the worst thing that has ever happened to the game, not even the expansion itself but the culmination of awful design over an entire year going into MSOG.

If I was Blizzard I'd just say sorry, offer a refund for MSOG and rotate it out entirely.
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Is Mysterious Challenger rotating out?

I really wish Blizzard had kept the secret meta going by introducing good new Paladin secrets.
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>>170027181
you underestimate the casual playerbase that doesn't really give a shit about balance
they're the ones that make money for blizzard, not us
whales too, but they're just a subset of the casual crowd that spends a lot of money in 99% of situations
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>>170027181
>I can honestly see the game dying
You mean you didnt realize that after TGT came out and secret paladin broke the game?
you couldnt tell that when they rushed out LOE after 2 months?
you couldnt tell it after it took 6 months to release Whispers?
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How's the tourney going? Can't watch it.
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>>170027181
>Priest gets good cards for the first time since GvG
>Priest has a playable deck for the first time ever
>Worst expansion
>When Old "4/7/7 Summon a Totem Golem and 0/5/5 Taunt" Gods and One Night in Arena happened
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>>170027308
it didn't die after TGT
or after LoE
or after Whispers
or after MSOG
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>>170027472
TGT was meh not actively bad
LoE was really good
Whispers was decent
MSOG is a fucking abomination
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>>170027279
>Wild 2022
>paladin meta is two of a mana acceleration card they got in a set where it was unplayable since paladin was trash, two challenger and the rest is all secrets
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>tune into literally any random female streamer on twitch
>cam is 65% of the screen space, distracting music, game is minimized with a dozen other tabs open, only casually playing between talking to chat and making silly faces after donations, drinking wine, headphone wire resting in low cut v-neck, Christmas lights hanging in room, map of places she has traveled visible in the background
why do thirsty beta males give these cunts money again?
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>>170027279
yeah. It died with avenge rotating anyways
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>>170027659
I want to be her chair and smell her butt all day
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>>170027659
Just get a GF, and tell her to stream vidya in skimpy clothing.

Dumb frogposter.
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>>170027472
>it didn't die
zombies are still dead

people still play wow, does that make it a good "healthy" game?
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>>170026728
>People crying over Shaman
I've been playing Shaman since the days of Beta. Right now, it's on a high. In a couple months, the meta will shift to fuck Shamans over. Just run some heals and taunts like Dirty Rat to get past it for now.
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>>170027960
>Just get a GF
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>>170027761
you are part of the problem, my man.
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>>170028092
>Just play Dirty Rat and gamble on it not pulling an 8/8 on Turn 2
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>not watching the NA tournament
goy pls
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>>170025671
66.7%
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>>170028282
triggered, use fractions you cunt
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>>170028282
667/1000 seems like an oddly specific probability.
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>>170025671
2/3rds
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>>170027423
Already got a 3-0 sweep, second game getting underway.
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I tried guys. Maybe next time.

Rogue deck has -1 Huckster, +1 Elise
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why does savjz overact everything nowadays?
he used to be a good level headed streamer but now its all "WHAT? HOW did that happen! WOW how did I win that?"
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>>170028667
he has to earn more money to fly and fuck zeriyah, overacting makes more money, especially when you are mush mouthed fin that can barely speak english
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>>170028667
he should take lessons from neviilz
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>>170028895
jesus christ that guys voice destroys my ears
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>>170028543
How come the rogue deck doesn't have Brann? He seems like he'd be an auto-include with all those powerful battle cries.
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>>170029203
b&
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>>170029203
Brann was banned my man.
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Hearthpwn innkeeper is only what makes deckbuilding in this game one level above masochism
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>>170028543
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>>170025326
>how do you do fellow kids

>>170025719
>pack average is 100
Is this the new shill line? First off, you need to have enough of the collection to even get to the point where you dust a whole pack. Then you need to factor in the quality of your pull, you dont have a 50-50 to get something good or bad. You have a 10% chance at best of pulling something you need or want (see all of the golden mayor nogenfodders) Also The only way you can get to your average of 100 dust is if you account for dusting legendarys, which means you got statistically fucked. Anyway you look at it HS rarity chances are awful and you will always lose from paying for packs in bulk.
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>>170029775
Any card that you don't dust is worth more because you don't need to craft it with said dust.
>>
Why can't Hearthstone have deck codes like Shadowverse?
>>
Someone update me on the tourney, please. What are the memes like?
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>>170030341
NA memes > EU memes
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>>170030523
go back to casting you fuck
i need hype over every dumb thing
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>>170030585
kys yuro
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>>170030692
>implying I'm not shitposting from my mud hut in Africa

typical burger
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>*blocks ur path*
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>start off 0-2 in arena
>on the verge of killing self
>end up going a modest 8-3 and wonder why i got so mad

how to stop this?
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>>170031341
>takes a 9 hour lunch
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Do you think Nozdormu knows about his son's rampant polygamy?
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>>170031859
does this confirmed have a dick? I always thought it was a girl.
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>>170031672
if you discover the answer, tell me
i'm pretty sure we just have shit impulse control, i'm almost always wondering why i was mad 5 minutes after it happens
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Is this image real or fake?
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>>170031962
The card art is literally Nozdormu's son, so yes.
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>>170032175
>Missed lethal by one
>Responds with Forbidden Ritual into concede instead of Mortal Coil own face
Deserved the loss
>>
>>170032175
link?
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>>170032217
>implying dragons have a binary gender
don't trigger me anon
>>
>>170032217
>Brann into Dragon Consort into Noz
:thinking:
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>>170027423
We just had a shadow rager, stealth buff card whatever its called, cold blood attack into conceal almost work.
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>>170025935
nice plan (doing the same btw) but that's old news , try to make some more up to date videos.
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>>170032603
>Brann playing wingman to Anachronos so he can fuck his own dad
Thanks Blizzard
>>
I've realized I haven't played a single game of HS for the sole enjoyment of playing it in about 3 months or so

Maybe I should just call it quits
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Confirmed pre-order cuck
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>>170026058
FREE ? the bait is real
>>
>>170033207
>Maybe I should just call it quits
Just take a break. I stopped playing after Christmas, and only started again 2 days ago, and it's a lot more fun now than it was then.
>>
Alp avatar
>>
>>170033739
not a bait just need the initial dust , i did exactly that too... relax man
>>
AlpDemiurgos please report to your match
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can malygos rogue be viable again?
>>
>>170036906
Malygos Rogue is dead without Emperor.

There would need to be a new card, similar in function to Emperor, to make it viable but even then it's questionable.

As for right now, Malygos is better than Miracle against Reno, Jade Druid, and Dragon Priest. Worse vs almost everything else and is auto lose vs aggro most of the time.
>>
>Turn 1 Finders Keepers
>Turn 2 Dust Devil

Why can't I get more people like this in arena
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>bastion nerfed within days of patch going live
>spirit claws took 6 months
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>>170037724
>As for right now

sorry, this is what I was talking about.
How good is it in the current meta given that aggro took a huge hit?
>>
>>170037812
>Symmetra still hasn't been nerfed
>>
Zardos you suck at playing and your mill rogue deck is shit and you play like shit.
>>
>>170037724
>auto lose

half the decks in the game are autolose against half of the other decks
it's the dumbest rock paper scissors nonsense I've ever seen, and the games where my decisions matter from start to finish are probably 1 out of every 10
>>
>>170037840
I'm not a Rogue expert or anything, but Malygos Rogue has a hard time with any aggro deck, period. Pirate Warrior is an auto lose, even after the nerf, Aggro Shaman, Aggro Rogue, Miracle Rogue are all bad too.

Malygos Rogue is good for picking on Jade Druid and the greedy Timmy decks that you see in rank 15-20, but other than that it's basically a meme.

Fun to play, though.
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>>170038231
I haven't played ladder since the nerfs, do you still see Aggro Shaman, Pirate Warrior, and Aggro Rogue?
>>
>>170038349
Yes, in almost every game.

The rank 10-1 meta is aggro, Jade Shaman, and the occasional Reno mixed in.
>>
>>170038329

>march, 2017
>still no gnome of colour
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just drafted 2 ayas, white eyes, and winds in arena

should i snipe kripp
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>>170038349
Not him, but pirate warrior is the most common aggro deck still around
I am almost certain aggro shaman will come back in a week or so with a few changes (possibly back to rockbiter/doomhammer again) as a T2/low T1 deck
Pirate is being the strongest of the three by a decent margin desu
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>>170038631
the answer is always yes
post here when you get a match
>>
>>170030067
The point being that there are so many bulk cards in each set that a majority of the cards you pull might be useless. So it's a loss of potential dust
>>
>>170038674

I played against a few doomhammer aggro shaman today, wasn't pleasant
>>
being a beginner in this game is suffering. there are so many times I get close to killing my opponent and then all the sudden they have 4 legendary cards out on the field or I get them down to 10 hp and lose momentum.

Do I wait for un'goro to buy some shit or what? I did the one time bundle thing and that got me a nice warlock legendary, lord jaraxxus but my other cards are lacking
>>
>>170039931
do your quests, buy packs and build your collection
You'll get there.
>>
>>170039931
learn about pity timers, disenchant shitty legendaries, make epics and good ones with the dust, make sure you did all hidden quests
>>
>>170039931

pretty much, the way ranked works makes it look like you're making no progress if you're new

just ignore buying the stuff that rotates next month(tgt, loe, brm)
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>>170039931
build zoolock
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>>170032175
PTSD yo.
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>>170040034
Takes so long. I'm tempted to just buy some shit but I don't know what's worth it.

>>170040083
I've got a few more hidden ones. The hard CPU is beating me down.

>>170040109
I do win some but I mostly lose ;_;

>>170040312
I will look this up.
>>
Status on tourney?
>>
you reminded me of my first rank 10 with divine aggro pally, dagesoka
thank you ; ;
>>
>>170040821
if the hard cpu is bullying you then you have no interest in ranking up past 20.
System is so retarded that even if you get legend last month you get relegated to the bottom to grind it again.
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>>170040961
http://challonge.com/BennyBrodesLockerNA
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>lose to netdeck
>you cannot lose stars at this rank

im beginning to think i need to spend money on this f2p game
>>
>>170041170
I have a level 20 Mage. I was able to beat warrior but the others I've tried have overwhelmed my shitty cards.
>>
>>170041170

They really need to fix that while they are adding in new floors at 15/10/5. They need to make it so if you reach rank 5 you start the next season at rank 15 so portrait farming shitters who rush to 5 at the end of the season start the next season in the 15+ bracket.
>>
>>170041313
You're at the beggining of long journey. You can make a nice effective budget deck pretty quick, but to play the deck you wish you could, it will take months.
Unlock yourself tavern brawls, it's a good place for beginners since you often get premade decks to play and can do quests/grind daily gold there.
Try arena since first one is free. If you think you can make profit out of it, do it as often as you can. Check out heartharena companion, he helps you in drafting deck it's in the op.
If you want to get into this game for sure, buying welcome bundle is good investment, you might also buy karazhan but buying packs is not worth it unless you preorder it for a cardback using amazon coins for a discount.
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>>170038025
Thank you friend
>>
>>170041767
Okay thanks anon. I've done tavern and arena, actually managed to go 3-3.

I keep seeing people say Karazhan is more worth it than packs so maybe I'll get that. I've certainly lost to a few stoners with that legendary that puts more in your deck so at least I'll get some useful cards.
>>
>>170041501
This is probably what I like the best about Elder Scrolls Legends. Reach rank 5 once and you will always start there every season forever now.

Also having a floor to every single rank is so relaxing. You can only lose starts but not ranks, makes ladder anxiety disappear.
>>
>draft weapon handbuffs
>never draw weapons

cool mechanic
>>
>>170042143
Also if you have any non-basic goldens you should disenchant them. They're worth a lot of dust and are just shiny, so let them go unless you use them.
Karazhan is not good, but net worth of dust alone makes it more worth than packs. Commons, rares and epics from it are fine, but legos are below average. One important thing: you need to clear the ai battles before you get cards, so you might need to get some more packs before you buy it.
Going 3-3 in arena is waste of time in terms of reward gains, but you will get lucky with drafring deck/git really gud and eventually hit higher rewards
>>
>>170043592
>>170043592
>>170043592
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>>170042607
>this content is really only worth it for the dust, which you get from destroying the content

This game is a headache. Maybe I should just buy some cheeseburgers and forget about hearthstone.
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