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>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
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>New players:
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>Multiple hero video guides
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>Wikis:
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http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki
>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0
>Gear modifier values
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>War of Factions:
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>PVP Stat Tracker:
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>Story mode collectibles:
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http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
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Previous thread: >>169916403
Lawmen, keep up the fight! Your cause is just!
Anyone feel like sharing a good Macro program/macro for dominion farming? MacroMaker doesn't seem to want to work with the For Honor window.
ded gaem
>>169941704
They also seem really fixated with Shugoki for some reason.
Nobushi is cute
>>169942283
yea here you go
>>169942363
>white instead of asian
>mask off
???
>>169942363
Nobushi is good with children! She'd make a great mom someday!
Post Kenseis
>>169942453
>white instead of asian
Thats like...most anime.
>>169942578
>playing eliminations for orders
>Kill my opponent and run off to help a teammate
>2v1 a shugoki and win the round
>teammate begins bitching about honor
>"respect the 1v1"
>Next round comes
>He's the last one standing
>Gets harpooned by a valk while fighting another guy
why is "muh honor" a thing in 4v4?
>>169942391
>what is a PC
Nice job bud really uh.
Really nailed it on that meme.
>>169942703
I've enjoyed a good duel in 4v4, don't get me wrong, but expecting a fair fight with those numbers is foolish.
>be Lovebringer
>constantly flip opponents like a pancake
>all the while my team just beats on them
Am I cancer yet?
>>169942703
Because people are idiots. It's great when you are doing elimination, your opponent runs away to pick up buffs and you either have to waste your time chasing or go do an entirely separate 1v1 because whatever teammate you decide and help will probably stop fighting cause muh honor.
We are going to make it, knights. We are all going to make it.
I wonder if I should go with these colors
it fits the samurai colors more
Thought I accidentally wandered into a human match while I was trying to complete orders, this warden counter guard broke me and then vortex spammed, saw on death he was lvl3 bot
I went from lvl 1 bots to lvl 3, tha fuck?
>>169942897
Don't you lie to me.
>>169942897
>day 3 of 14
I have hope, but I've seen this all before
>>169942363
>>169942493
>anon that was writing the Warden/Nobushi fic was banned by mods
>no way to find out if he updated it
I keep trying to dodge Shugoki hug as LB but he grabs me anyway, should I just disengage entirely when he tries?
>>169942706
Plug in a controller.
>>169942953
from what I understand, level 1 bots replace people who've left, but level 2 and 3 bots are the ones who start with the game.
I could be entirely wrong on this
How great is this game?
>>169942706
>you cant use controllers on PC
>>169943246
7/10.
>>169943108
didn't that happen to lewdkeeper or was that the same person?
I saw lewd spamming over on the reddit knights discord a few evenings ago
>>169943187
this was purely an AI match, no humans except me. But I think you're right. But as far as starting bots go I think they change when your account rep hits a certain level? thought I would go through 2 first though
>>169943130
Unlock and roll, I find that attacks track rolls less than dashes.
>>169943327
Different people, but i can understand her ban tho.
>inb4 ">her"
I just don't understand the writefag bans because all they do is put down the pastebin link and sometimes ask questions regarding direction.
>rep 11 Lawbringer
>people expect me to be a god
>>169943593
That's true of all high reputation players. What's your secret, though? I'm a Rep 4 Lawman and I wanna reach Rep 9.
>>169943156
>>169943259
So how do you solve the problem of having to press spacebar or its equivalent to start each round :^)
>>169942703
I've had something similar happen it's pretty stupid, the best part was when I asked him about how his honor helped when he got 3v1d he said he would stay honorable and didn't blame them.
It's like these guys live in a different reality from the rest of the world.
>>169943812
turn matchmaking on and you dont have to do that
:^)
The game went as expected.The Law won.
>>169941262
I don't know, it seems highly suspect that a video doesn't disclose how much time they consider a frame to be in a GAME WITH DYNAMIC FPS
>>169943682
You have to make hard reads on the shoves.
>>169943998
>Planting a double agent in the enemy team
Genius
>>169943998
>>We've received quite a few noise complaints at this address, sir.
>>169944090
its on PC, and PC runs at 60 fps
So, does a light parry stagger your opponent longer than a heavy parry?
Who is the most honorable waifu?
>>169944317
Femwarden.
>>169943682
Hes all i play, up untill yesterday when i wanted to get my warden to rep 3.
I play a lot of dominion because i'm shit at duels.
>>169944317
Femwarden obviously
so, as a zerker I can easily fuck people who dont react as fast as others but how the fuck does high level zerk play?
they even properly counter GB me after feint into GB or some of the craziest, feinting into a light attack in another stance and getting parried. PARRIED!
>>169942363
poledancing slut
>>169944194
>tfw no more buddycop art
>>169944317
Raider. No pretensions about false honor, no hypocrisy, no arbitrary societal code. She is true to herself and just wants to smash shit, she needs no words to speak for her.
>>169944558
Did the drawfriend get banned or something?
>>169944317
femwarden but I want to have babies with femroach
>>169944212
...lmao. Not much you can say to an idiot.
>Play Lawbringer against people who aren't retarded
>Every single thing I do is easily counterable
Jesus christ
>>169944317
>>169944758
yea im not sure why im trying to respond to someone trying to defend peacekeeper
>>169944769
I feel ya, safe attacks are not in the pool for Lawman
> playing with conq in dominion
> actually get into a match with no one that's prestiged
> first minute of the match get into it with a noob lawbooger
> I'm not too great at conqroach, reason I'm just playing around
> he does some pushes and I manage to position him into a corner
> notice him not moving anymore
> he leaves
kek
>>169943998
>Deathgamer665
the true mixup
New to Lawbringer, can his unblockable overhead riposte be really easily parried? Should I just do his light?
>>169943998
What do you expect, you have way better gear than them. Whoever has better gear wins.
>>169945035
His unblockable is only useful for clocking someone who's not looking during a teamfight. Under no circumstance should you use it in a duel.
Why don't they just call duel Assassin and Warden mode?
2 and a half hours and I shit you not I have seen but ONE opponent that isn't one of them.
>>169945035
Unblockable is guaranteed after parrying a light.
>mfw ever since the update my NAT goes from green to yellow to red which indicates how much time I have left before the game leaks the rest of my RAM.
Does raider get any confirms off of his tackle or does it literally just do nothing in 1v1s?
>>169945108
>Warlord
>Roach
>Shugoki isn't really worthy of implication but he's going here anyway.
>Against four VERSATILE-tier Lawbringers
Is fun not okay with you?
>>169945138
I haven't even seen all too many Wardens recently. A lot of PK and Warlord. Went up against a Rep 10 Kensei, that was probably the most interesting duel in a bit.
>>169945162
why? do they get more triggered after a light parry as opposed to a heavy parry?
>>169942953
What the fuck is happening in this GIF?
>>169945249
Raider has no guaranteed heavies on anything outside of putting an out-of-stamina target on the ground.
He can get lights off his charge, though.
I can't start the game, are the servers down?
>>169945341
Electrocuted to death.
>Played Nobu non stop since I got the game
>Decided to play a character that's more aggressive and fast
>Try berserker
>This speed
>These easy dodges that I don't even have to time
>This free damage any time I dodge
Wow I see why people love the assassins so much, I feel like I'm playing on easy mode.
>>169945304
gonna guess he did alot of upper heavy feints followed by an actual upper heavy and possibly side dash heavies
Why the fuck does it seem so much harder to block Warden bullshit? I can block PK just fine, regardless of what mouth breathing redditors might think, but Warden fucking hits me every time.
>>169945341
It looks like they were moving a scaffolding or something metal and it got caught in a powerline.
>>169945341
nerve gas
>>169945341
The tall metallic object the workers are hauling comes in contact with what is probably a power line. One of the workers is somehow revived, but he goes back down for good when he touches the metal in his attempt to escape.
The video likely originates from China.
>>169944317
FEMCONQ A CUTE. CUTE
Has the patch hit consoles yet? Valk is supposed to be broken now or something but she still gives me no trouble and does shit damage.
Stop deploying war assets against Vikings.
>>169945453
He spammed upper attacks and GBs He kept trying to do the dash-GB where you block an attack while dashing in, but it wasn't working for him. I 3/0'd him twice.
It was honestly disappointing. I had fought his PK and Orochi leading up to it, and both of those he just did the basic bitch shit to try to make it work. Things like spamming Orochi uppers or PK zones. Turns out his ultimate technique was more of the same and throwing out like 9 GBs in a fight.I didn't say it was a good match, only that it was interesting.
>>169945138
How do you use Lawbringer in duels?
>>169945771
cliff
>>169945726
speaking of which, just started that show last night and got through the first season
Liked it, except for all the cucking. Comfy though
>>169944653
purity/truth/honesty != honor
>>169945771
Ledges.
Hope your enemy drains their stamina and you can shove bully to keep it drained.
>>169945418
pls respond
>>169945765
>9 GBs in a fight.
Pshh, I just fought a Raider who used 20+ GBs during our duels.
I kept teching them but it's like he wasn't getting it.
>>169945293
Lawbringer reminds me of Tachanka in Siege. Everyone loves to meme about him but nobody is actually good with him. The people that do get good with him are just people playing the character they like.
>>169945771
Be hyper aggressive
If done correctly you can get 2 and a half Heavy combos off without running out of stamina.
The less room you give them to move, the better
>>169945958
Purity/truth/honesty=HonorABLE
>>169946040
lawbringer's appearance more than makes up for his lack of viability
>>169945654
don't think so. Was talking to someone about how Ubi removed the playercount from the social screen and he said his was still there, PC lost it on the patch.
>>169946008
every time I get someone like that where I tech 10 times in a row they quit, usually the first time they get smacked
>>169945391
>horrible winrate in duels
>top-tier winrate in dom/4v4
Back-smashing/side-tackling murderer confirmed
Shit in 1v1, but ignore them at your peril
>>169945338
It's how it works senpai, ask Ubisoft 'why'.
>>169943998
>that name
Just how deep are you in the memepile?
Get main to P3 before picking up an alt Y/N
Thinking of getting Shugoki or Conq for an alt.
>servers unreachable again
for fucks sakes ubi
>>169946101
Still needs an arbitrary societal code to declare it so, same as the rest.
Even if they nerf Warlord his moveset and abilities are still so damn flexible. What are they going to do nerf his damage to shit? Make him have slow stance switch speed?
>>169946221
I could tell you.
But then I'd have toNO SUPERSTESyou.
Did anyone else just suddenly get 2 Day Champion Status?
>All these people being rep 3+ on multiple characters
>People say they have no lives
>I'm still Rep 2 with only one hero but I also don't have a life
>>169946313
hey we'll get another 3 days I guess
>>169946465
Yes.
>>169946465
It's Ubisoft saying sorry for the server outage on Saturday.
>>169946465
Ubi is doing that because of all the downtime last weekend. It's for the weekend, 3 day. Today through sunday. Adds on to some if you had some already
Also, servers being shit again today. GG ubi
Is there a way (on PC) to see people you played with recently in this game?
In Uplay friends list there is a 'friends suggestion' thing where it lists people you played with in other ubisoft games recently but i don't think it works with this game because mine is still full of people I played with in the Wildlands beta.
>>169946403
The only two complaints I ever see about Warlord is his throw distance and Headbutt.
Does Conq's shove have any application other than pushing people off ledges/into walls?
>>169946608
It's the best ability in the game and is one of the primary factors that makes Conq toptier.
>>169945472
block left, react high.
>>169945338
heavies recover more quickly from being parried, presumably because parrying them is easier than parrying lights.
>>169943998
When the hell does purple gear start dropping?
Wait does the defense stat actually do somthing now?
I was using Max attack, secondary stamina reduction on my Lawbringer.
>>169946749
And I am asking what other applications it has
>>169942703
I try not to 2v1 because I expect every person to have a revenge build which ends up fucking every one
>>169947102
Reputation 3 and up.
>Berserker traps are fucking invisible in dominion
>No indicator, no visible model, especially at B area
>every peacekeeper becomes a warden
or
>every warden becomes a peacekeeper
Failure to answer results in all classes becoming peacekeeper
>>169946589
He will still be top tier if those are nerfed or even near entirely removed. He has lights that can function as pseudo-parries, uninterruptible heavies and the ability to feint, top tier stance swap speed, ability to dodge and jump attacks that make him mobile for a heavy, shield counter off a parry, heavy health without half the drawbacks of a heavy, a zone attack with forward distance, and his damage does not rely on combos. This is almost all built into his abilities and moveset, not simply numbers they can adjust.
So, you're not allowed to attack in this game right?
Seems like if I just turtle up and play defensively and read their feints, they can't do anything at all. Guard break to break my turtle and I just counter it. They try to feint and it only works a couple times if that before I catch on to their style. If they attack me, I just parry and get a free GB + heavy.
I started my first 2 reps with absolute suffering by choosing to attack, but ever since I've started only counterattacking my opponents, my gameplay experience has gone way up.
However, now I'm meeting other opponents who do the same as me. As I go up in level, me and my opponent both attack less and less. It actually got down to 30 seconds before me and this Warden I was dueling started scrambling to do damage to each other in hopes that whoever had the highest percentage of health left would win, but I guess it actually ends in a draw even if one person is 100% and the other has 1% left.
What are they gonna do to the game to make it so this doesn't happen at higher levels? I'm rep 5 now and I see more feints than actual attacks and both my opponents and I have our guard break counters almost perfect.
I never imagined a day when I would actually enjoy Dominion over dueling but I'm getting to that point because even chaos is more fun than the turtle fights.
Opinions on what could be done?
Maybe make running out of stamina disallow to parry, slow your guard changes and dodges or at least allow heavier chip damage?
>mfw my opponent decides to attack
>>169947530
I'm sorry for thelossof your picture Anon
>Never played PK
>Pick 'em up on the road to rep 1 every character
>Mash light attacks
>Win every time even against rep 4s and upward
Holy shit what is happening? And she got BUFFED?
>>169947558
you've reached level 2
at level 3 players will attack frequently
Post 'em
Thinking of replacing loss with AESTHETIC, thoughts?
Tried to make the brand, how'd I do?
>>169947167
pressure, free damage (comboing it into an attack), stam drain
>>169947703
>See people playing
>They're having fun, balanced fights all around
>Get a bit of an urge to play myself
>Boot up game
>Two miserable rounds of dominion later, realize the people in the videos were level 15 at most and that I'm Rep 3
>Lost sleep hours ruining my own mood
>Gotta work tomorrow morning
>>169947964
>pressure
that probably only works on shitters though
>combo into an attack
can be parried
>stam drain
it's not much though
is there anything more satisfying than pulling off a 3-part vortex?
>>169948059
For Honor, for me, is much more fun to watch than play. When you watch a good player playing a character you like or that is difficult to play, you can focus on the aesthetic of the fight a lot better without having to concentrate as much. It's a good watch, especially Shugoki or Kensei players.
There are way too many Warden players though.
>>169948281
once they're out of stamina it drains more stamina meaning it takes 50 years for them to even stop having a grey screen, pretty sure it also guarantees a light
>when they can't stop your memes
Why is it that orochi's top light and zone, as well as warden's top light and zone, but not as bad, seem to go right through my guard?
And yes, I checked, I recorded it and went back to make sure my guard was in the direction of the attack, and it was.
>>169948415
What the fuck are you saying
Its boring as hell to watch
Show me your face for when the LAW finally gets buffed!
>>169948474
both of those last 2 were blockable
>Enemy runs to ledge
>I wonder what he's trying to do!
>Fails at GBing me multiple times
>Okay enough of this shit
>Grab him and toss his ass off in one attempt
>WOW NO HONOR WTF
This is the only time I even ledge and this is probably at least one out of three games
>match loads up
>peacekeeper, valkyrie, nobushi, and female warden on the same team
it's like sisters
>>169948320
Pulling off a 100-0 vortex.Winning with only parries and feints, like God intended.
>>169948496
>>169948578
>>169948550
the entire thing can be stopped at every shield bash or side switch
>>169948578
You know, if every character had reliable offense like this, tournaments would be less boring. Assuming they had reliable counters/escapes.
>>169948431
>once they're out of stamina it drains more stamina meaning it takes 50 years for them to even stop having a grey screen
i see, sounds useful. can't classes still dodge/roll out of the way when they've got no stamina though?
>pretty sure it also guarantees a light
forgot about that
>conqueror whiffs his shield bash
>recovers in time to still slap me with a light, interrupting my own light
Why is this considered ok?
>>169948572
I miss adam and morgan
>current year of our lord
>not having your face painted on your face
>>169948717
they can't roll, no
they can dodge but chances are they'll be flustered from being rushed and it already has stupid tracking
>>169948474
enjoy the nerf
>>169948735
For Honor would make for good skits ;_;
how do i git gud at warlord? I mastered the fundamentals but he feels so... slow. Do i just turtle? what are his best punishs and gaurntees?
>>169948640
How? Dodging to the side?
>>169948985
I play other classes it's fine
Servers shitting right now?
>>169949009
>Warlord
>slow
Try LB, holy fuck.
>>169949009
Headbutt spam. Full block for guaranteed poke. Turtle. Your lights are faster than assassin lights.
>>169948735
I liked them on TV, and Adam was alright for awhile after.
Seen his twitter lately? He's gone full political. 9 out of 10 posts is him bashing something about trump, he's never going to have solid work again. From what I can tell he just lives off a few speaking engagements here and there
>>169948578
>Winning with only parries or feints
NO, this is what makes higher level play boring as fuck both to play and to watch.
>>169949070
>the least stressful way to handle a mirror match
>>169949053
yeah
>Valk unblockable into unblockable knockdown
Totally needed those buffs because of her win rate :^)
>>169949297
>Dodge either unblockable
>Get a free GB punish
Wow so OP
>>169949172
I don't mean turtling, I mean pulling off a perfect series of baits and punishes. Absolutely playing the fuck out of someone and killing them in a combo is the best feeling.
>>169948637
could of just thrown her to the right during the first guard break but still pretty good nonetheless.
>>169949297
people are going to tell you to dodge that shit, the shield bash is easy enough to dodge but I can barely dodge the legsweep as LB in time
>>169949116
so i just turtle and poke? how does that work out at higheer skill brakets?
>>169949351
>She gets one for free from a knockdown
:^)
so assuming someone isn't running the no bleed feat;
as nobushi on a GB, should I do that throw into a bleed poke or go side heavy? Out of habit with everyone else I usually side heavy if a toss won't kill them but trying to git gud with nobushi
>>169948496
>>169949448
You win at higher skill brackets because this entire game revolves around defense and that doesn't change no matter what bracket you're at. Warlord has a strong defensive game, and has attacks that are fast enough to get chip damage against equally defensive enemies.
>>169945765
rep 10 you say?
hundred bucks its boosted via ai battles
>>169949708
He was a Rep 10 Kensei, a Rep 1 Orochi, and a level 14 PK. He was awful at every single one.
>>169949467
>getting knocked down
Literally how.
>increase gb startup
>reduce tech window slightly
>make gb feint-able
3 easy steps to make every character viable
So what is the possibility of alternate faction skins for each hero? EG Warlord for Knights, I need my knight with a sword and broad man, they had them in the campaign!
>>169949934
Possible, if Ubi stays committed to this game. Cosmetics became absurd with enough time in Siege. I could see the same happening here.
>>169948578
>>169948637
as nice as it is to see a PK getting cheesed, this isn't balanced and warden's shoulderbash needs to be reworked.
How do i get good with nobushi? I picked her up recently and im enjoying her but I'm also losing a lot unless im dueling idiots. what can you do with her hidden stance?
I paid good money for this game, then a week later they introduce a Small patch (emphasis on small) which also introduced a fucking memory leak.
Im now on a time limit every time I boot up "For Cuck" and I cant even get a fucking refund because of the 2 hour policy, I shit you not.
the developers made the game barely playable and steam will not honor any refund despite the fact that something like a memory leak should've been fixed within the first day and put out in a hotfix the next day if not the same day.
remember when I put emphasis on "Small"?
in other words they shouldnt have any fucking problem pinpointing where the leak is IF IT STARTED AFTER THE FUCKING PATCH!
What are some strings as the law?
>>169949815
>Remove the guard invincible frames from heavy attack/ make feinting throwable
>Suddenly baiting parry attempts is punishable
Wow i just fixed the game guys.
>>169950063
i planned EVERYTHING
that's hardly cheese
>>169950063
Just back-roll out of it.
Just hit the Warden if you're on a class with a fast attack.
Just full block cancel if you're on a shield class.
Just read the Warden right and counter it.
>>169950135
not bad
>>169950106
Top light.
If you are feeling frisky Top light into top light is pretty saucy.
Enjoy THE LAW.
>>169950135
you can gb parry attempts already
+ that isn't offense, you require the opponent to take risk and parry
>>169950106
shove into gb/heavy
rinse and repeat
>>169950371
GB after the shove can be teched.
>>169950371
Neither of those is an actual string. Just trying to spook newbies with shove so they don't react to your next move.
>>169950283
You can gb parry attempts already on SOME characters with particularly late feints or slow heavys like the law or raider but most of the top tiers have fast feint cancels and can tech the throw.
It is offensive because it makes going for a parry a massive risk that can be punished with a free heavy/instant ledge kill. Meaning people will actually block substantially more.
This change plus an increase in chip damage off heavies would fix most of For Honors core issues.
WHY THE FUCK DOES THE PLAYERS MET TAB NOT WORK ON PS4 FOR THIS GAME? i want to talk shit after i make nerds rq
>>169948985
Every bit of that damage could have been stopped.
>>169950569
that probably explains why i barely get any hatemail
>>169950589
only the attack and first shove, if they are knocked into a wall its rip from there
>>169943108
>Writefags banned
Truly the worst general.
>>169950220
the problem is that the shoulderbash has a response for everything. they side dodge? cancel into untechable GB. they attack? cancel into parry
the only way you walk away from that is if you dodge roll backwards, then the situation returns to neutral and the warden is free to start the vortex again.
not saying you aren't reading your opponents well to pull those webms off, but shoulderbash can branch into way too many things to be considered balanced.
>>169950229
>Just back-roll out of it.
back to neutral, warden is free to resume the vortex
>Just hit the Warden if you're on a class with a fast attack.
in that guy's webms he was cancelling into parries, assuming you're playing a class with a fast enough attack.
>Just full block cancel if you're on a shield class.
alright, so 3 classes get a reprieve, doesn't make it balanced.
>Just read the Warden right and counter it.
the only safe move to make is dodge roll backwards with no chance of punishing the warden, all other scenarios can end in the warden punishing you.
How can i counter a shugoki as a berserker?
>Play Berserker
>Enemy lets their guard down after one block thinking I'll back off
>nope
>Continue spamming my infinite, causing them a shitton of damage while they panic
This never gets old
>>169950674
No? You can dodge every shield bash, wallslam just ensures the heavy followup if you get hit by the bash.
>>169950508
>opponent just blocks
it's not offense because it doesn't require a commitment from the opponent (unless they have literal grandpa tier reactions)
gb is offense because you cannot block or dodge you have to either tech or attack
being able to feint the gb with enough time to light attack their tech attempt would be legitimate offense and encourage active play instead of purely reactive play
>>169947558
>punish oos more
...anon, stamina only matters for attacking.
Punishing its use would do the opposite of what you want, if the game otherwise stays as is.
How about:
>all attacks cost a moderate amount of stamina if they whiff/get parried/are feints
>heavy attacks cost nothing for a blocked hit & actually replenish some stamina if they hit unblocked
>light attacks cost a little stamina even if they hit unblocked
>blocks/dashes cost as much as a light attack
>parries cost half as much
>GB is fine as-is
>like you said, OOS slows your guard changes & allows significantly heavier chip damage
But how to fix feint-spam?
Give each class a mix-up instead, & give feints a cooldown/charge-up so you can still use them multiple times in a row but it doesn't get stupid. (would also give players something to think about if certain classes have more feint charges to work with- conq would have 0, raider'd have 5, replenished on kills/executions)
I've been trying to git gud with Shugoki, what are some helpful tips for dealing with peacekeepers and orochis? I've been trying my hardest to duel a lot of them, but the flurry of light attacks is unbearably hard to defend against. It feels like once they break your hyper armor you will rarely ever get it back due to the constant barrage of attacks and grab attempts, and that leaves you with pretty much trying to land a lucky parry and pray that you are near a wall. Any honest tips from any gokis or maybe assassin mains that fight gokis often?
>>169950761
>straight up ignoring the "read" component of the last point
So apparently Orochis good?
I just dont fucking see it man
>>169950761
well i mean, i did those 3 actions preemptively, i didn't cancel as a response i just did them
>>169950589
You say that but I tested this very situation.
I made my friend repeatedly Shield Slam and i'd try to dodge it with Kensei. Even when i knew it was coming and specifically timed my dodge, i only escaped about 40% of the time.
The timing on the dodge is super specific because of the obscene tracking and weird I-frames on the dodge, do it too late and you get beat during start up, do it too early and the cronq will do a 90 degree spin on the spot and smash you.
Theres a reason it works at tournament level. Its really damn strong.
>>169950780
When they're low health I like to feint to bait a bearhug, step out of it then heavy as they walk by. Aside from that just get in attacks in when you can and don't try to trade
Why is it always so fucking laggy? Like 1 whole second of delay constantly, sometimes just straight up refusing to do anything for a while etc. Makes me rage so hard I could literally murder every single ubi employee
How do I beat Zerk as a Shugoki? I can't block it all.
I like Nobushi, but I don't understand this unblockable.
It's a kick that knocks my opponent out of range of any follow-up attacks????
How do I use this?
>>169950761
>"""""vortex""""" in neutral
retard
every hero's light attack beats the gbc and even some their heavies do too
>not everything is safe wah
jesus christ you've never played a fighting game before
>>169950761
back roll is a safe exit.
for warden to cancel into a parry, he needs to read that you're going to attack. you seem to forget that the vortex working requires the warden to predict what you're going to do. this option is no different. also canceling to parry a side dash is miles easier than canceling to parry a PK light, because even if you know it's coming it's a bitch to time.
any situation can end with you being punished, my man, that's the fucking game. attacking ever can be punished. trying to vortex can be punished. trying to punish the vortex instead of just backrolling can be punished. i don't get your deal.
>getting bored with the game
>want to try new characters
>get matched with 108 gearscore teams as level 1
this game is going to die if matchmaking isnt fixed
>>169950902
yeah, if you sit there trying to read them instead of dodging immediately you're going to eat the shoulderbash and the followup attacks.
there is no safe counterplay to the vortex besides completely disengaging, which I consider to be a badly designed mechanic
>>169950956
You can easily get a poke the nest in (the kick counts as the first step). Just spam light attacks right when the kick lands. What I never figured out is what to do when they're not too retarded to evade the kick
>>169950104
>I have never worked with code in my life and have never had to bugstomp a program.
You could have just said that instead of making that rambling skidmark of a post.
>>169950883
despite reading this i still think shugoki's armour shouldn't regenerate when he's getting beaten on
>knights have bright and shiny armor in good condition
>vikings are remarkably clean and have well kept armor
>samurai have faded paint, chipped lamellae, beaten up wood pieces despite being the elite who historically had beautifully decorated armor
????????
>>169950883
honestly just quit against PKs, even ones that are playing the character for the first time can beat good shugokis
>>169942703
>play raider
>honor means nothing to me
>only the taste of victory
feels good to not be a huge faggot like some of the cucks i play with
>>169950941
Yea fuck this I'm out of here, uninstalled this piece of shit. Unplayable garbage.
>>169951046
You can read what a Warden's going to do without standing around with your thumb up your ass like a buffoon. Do you need 30 seconds to decide what to do?
Warden is charging a shoulder bash. You have to read whether he's going to bash or GB cancel. If you get it right, you punish him. If you get it wrong, he punishes you. The chances are just as against him as with you.
Work on being less predictable and stop playing into other people's shit. Do what they don't expect and you'll get out.
>>169951302
Samurai are constantly being invaded and cucked.
>>169947636
Shes braindead especially with higher ping
>>169951302
well the samurai in this are like, recovering from their homeland being wiped out
it'd be odd if their stuff was imaculate
So im a Warden and Kensei main
I know I know Warden is this and that but atleast I got good with kensei
My stats on both those heroes are really fucking good and I basically got both to rep 3 with max gear. So after I got those 2 pretty high up I wanted to try another hero
No other hero I have played has given me the rush kensei and warden gave me literally all other heroes feel like shit to me
The only one so far I have gotten to rep 1 is fucking OROCHI and I still dont fucking feel orochi yet I still play the fucking hero I cannot believe I actually am doing this with orochi
Am I just burned out of the game or what?
>tfw I can't make a Tzeentch symbol for the life of me
also pardon the Khornate one its so common I didn't bother refining it
>>169951537
>my stats are really fucking good
>1.4 duel K/D
>65% duel winrate
I don't have a reaction gif that laughs quite hard enough.
>>169951537
Orochi is pretty shit to be honest hes a meme pick at this point
>>169950932
Orochi is...eh. As assassins go, he's middle of the pack between Berserker on the low end and Peacekeeper on the high end. He has a bunch of built-in footsies tools that let him dip in and out to control space on his terms. The only reason he's so notable is because he's FUCKING EVERYWHERE. He is hands down the most popular character in the game.
>>169951121
really? I feel he's quite dependent on the armor though. Without it i feel he'd just crumble under any aggressive players. Maybe if he got a rework of some kind i could see it going, but right now he's pretty reliant on his few little gimmicks to win against a lot of opponents.
>>169951316
it feels like his stance swapping needs to be faster so he has a chance to react to the almost instant dash pokes.
>femkensei
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>169951706
You dont understand
I have failed to go positive on every hero that isnt Warden or kensei
>>169950749
it's like the mods only want us to complain about classes and talk about meta.
Can't even enjoy fanart or fapfics in this general and sure as hell other For Honor places don't allow them as well.
>*gently headbutts u from behind*
baa! >:3
>>169951702
I know right? its almost like he plays real players and doesn't pad himself into the 80's against AI
>>169951783
>not being a beautiful japanese woman
>roommates all have the flu
>off till monday
Well know what I'm going to do. I've got like 6 packages of these, a microwave and mini fridge in my room. Along with some pizza rolls and hot pockets.
Going to barricade the door and get to work.
>>169951901
>>169951726
for characters like kensei who dont have many fast combos/multihits it can make him really difficult to deal with
>>169950862
>>169950862
>>169950862
One of you fuckers better reply to me before I wake up tomorrow or I swear I'll recruit PK and start running for buffs/ganks in 4v4s.
>>169950862
>>169950862
>>169950862
>>169951926
>He thinks it's impossible to have a high K/D and Winrate without boosting
Dude I already said I don't have a reaction gif thats smug enough for this you can chill out.
>>169951901
S C O T L A N D
C
O
T
L
A
N
D
so assuming someone isn't running the no bleed feat;
as nobushi on a GB, should I do that throw into a bleed poke or go side heavy? Out of habit with everyone else I usually side heavy if a toss won't kill them but trying to git gud with nobushi.
>>169951537
>64.2% winrate
>good
>>169951724
I dont know why I keep playing him
I just cant get my mind around the other characters man
>servers down
anyone else getting this message?
>>169952020
Possible? Yes
Probable? Not really.
In your case? Not Possible.
Thinking about going into duels as peacekeeper for the first time.
I'm rep 6 orochi and rep 4 lawman, to give you an idea of who I'm probably going to be put against.
Am I gonna win?
>>169952209
can you do zone attack and mash light?
>>169950862
sounds really fucking stupid considering LB relies on the feints and has a lower stam pool than everyone else
>>169952161
>Iosefka
Oh, you're one of the new idiots that moved to /bbg/ and drove everyone worthwhile out of that general. I thought this feeling felt familiar.
Please never reply to me without my permission ever again.
How can I beat PK, Zerk, Valk, and other fast characters as a Shugoki? I can't block everything.
>>169952345
Use your Hyperarmor to trade with heavies.
Parry
>>169950569
there isn't one at all on pc, you have to remember people's uplays and add them
>Tfw after fighting a lvl3 PK bot for 3 hours I still can't handle the light attack spam
SOMEONE HELP
>Can't connect
heeeeelp
>>169952325
>he thinks this hasn't been posted 10 times in for honor general already.
How new? Did you just get it today?
>Xbox rite?
>>169952129
It can't hurt to go for the bleed, since that's more guaranteed. It also helps that Nobushi explicitly has a perk that lets her do more damage when an enemy is bleeding. So you want the bleed on first before you start trying to do big damage.
>>169948985
Nerf what? Ken just needed to sidestep
t.Conq that gets fucked by them all the ti.e
>dominion orders
>player vs AI is full of players afk grinding for rep and steel
>player vs player is full of assassins with maxed out revengeance gear
>other orders are skirmish based
haha, can't wait to see what orders are waiting for me tomorrow!
>Playing against gear score 108 Berserkers with shitty connections
life is suffering
>>169942703
I blame soul babies and their made up fight club rules
Okay, how do I play Conqueror, exactly? I made someone rage pretty hard last night, pic related, but I played pretty sloppily despite the win.
Only playing Conq because I'm kind of annoyed by PKs/Orochis, even though, it's my understanding, they still fuck Conq?
>>169952268
Is that the criteria for winning?
Then I guess I'll win, even having never touched the character.
>>169952209
Matchmaking is BS. I'm new and I'm matched with Prestiges. There is no MMR.
>>169952787
>im trying now im going to fucking destroy you
Man, you must've steamed him really good to get him somotivated.
>>169952551
So just PK and orochi?
This bug is starting to get a little ridiculous.
>>169952787
>How do I play Conqueror, exactly?
Unfortunately his whole schtick is turtling or abusing that retarded shield bash spam.
You can also try to bait attacks with the heavy->allblock feint but his tools are rather limited.
>>169952787
old pic, stop being a lying fag
VIKINGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
KNIGHT SUPREMACY
>>169952929
This literally happened last night unless the guy was trolling me with copypasta. I could even post the video
>>169952883
All I did was respond to his shit and bully him into a corner.
>>169952925
So... basically what I was doing. That's kind of binary.
So when you guys complain about assassins do you mean all assassins or just orochi and peacekeeper?
>servers down AGAIN
can ubisoft do anything right? at least let me play your shitty unbalanced game
>>169953047
Each assassin is a pain in their own way. Peacekeeper is simply the most egregious of the three.
Are there any classes besides Warlord and Conq that counter PK? im getting flustered
>>169951890
I blame the prude /pol/acks who play Knights.
Not only is this game becoming boring as fuck but this general is as well.
>>169953047
Only PK. Orochi is a worse Warden.
>>169953114
even Berserker?
Hes pretty shit
>>169953047
don't even have a problem with orochi or zerker
PK is broken though
So i just started using warlord, and almost everyone i fight in duel cant dodge the headbutt and rage. I see now why everyone bitchs about him.
When the fuck are we gonna get the emotes that are currently bot-exclusive?
>>169953157
Berserker has Beyblade powers and the ability to feint literally everything.
>>169950749
>>169951890
You just could make a /aco/ for honor thread
We could talk about the lore sprinkled in this games story mode
holy shit it's the crusades
>>169953280
haha if only it was the last day of the round haha
>>169953047
Just PK
Orochi has some feint cheese into 50-50 but basically one orochi out of a hundred even tries that. Most are plain old masher roaches
>>169953209
You wanna know the funny part? This is a NERFED Warlord. Before the open beta, he was even worse.
>play PK for the first time in 4v4
>level 1 gearscore against 108s
>mash lights and win
this character is dumb
>>169953047
A good berserker can be frustrating but they only really have one way of playing, so they're predictable and not terribly difficult to deal with.
Orochi is more fair than PK, I'd say; they just deal fuckhuge damage and the top light spam is obnoxious. That said, while frustrating to fight, they're not wholly irritating.
PK is a fucking cunt.
>>169951890
>discuss the same shit day in day out
>no real progress
>nothing to spice up the general
>just stale 'gameplay' discussion when nothing is really being discovered
This is legit one of the most stale-bread fucking generals I've ever seen. People act like we're gonna become /meg/ or /xivg/ levels of awful when that's not the case.
Anyone got the table of guard switch times?
>>169953314
Orochi has a 50-50?
>>169953372
I wish the general was slower
>>169953018
Yes. I prefer to not spam the bash, but I suppose if they aren't keen enough to simply dodge then keep bashing. Also, I don't know if you knew this (I only found out a couple days ago) Conq gets a free untechable gb off of blocking a heavy.
>>169953478
double overhead light > zone/gb, if i'm not mistaken
>Play peacekeeper
>Do pretty good.
>Duel like a real man
>Don't really understand what people bitch about
>Decide I want to try Kensei
>1st match is against two 108 PKs that have 99% revenge uptime and spam light attacks dunking our whole team with the lead one at 26 kills 1 death
So this is what the real meme keeper is like? It's the first time I've seen it.
>>169953478
Only thing I can think of that even comes remotely close to a 50/50 is his Upper Light / Zone being fast enough that it's hard to reaction block.
>>169953550
I wish the devs weren't shit and would fix their game.
>>169947703
R8.
Keep the loss one, it's great. Scope my AESTHIC emblem top right
Anyone else having trouble contacting the servers?
>>169953614
Welcome to ubisoft games
t.rainbow 6 siege
Why did they give law man literally no tools excepta great taunt?
rate my conq lads
/maddog/ reporting
>>169953662
I'm in right now.
>>169953710
generic/10
Good lord honorfags are autistic
>orochi keeps hanging around ledges
>shove him off
>u have no honor
After that I got him again in a duel, he alt f4'd while it was loading. Thanks for the easy bot win I guess.
>>169953126
Kensei is especially good at countering PK with their hyper armor and fast swings.
I'm saying this as a PK main. The heroes i have the hardest time fighting are Warlord, Conquerer, Good Wardens, and Kensei's
>>169953478
Dash into attack/gb
>>169953710
blue team/10
There are only two types of people, red team and blue team. Sorry to say you picked wrong, buddy.
Now rate me
>>169953710
>ripped tabard
>shitty rusting armor
>arm wounds from tying a dumb chain around it like nigga wtf
>retarded ornament
>shield doesn't even have spikes
>strong leg game though
3/10
>>169953697
To weed out the weak.
Only the stronq can dish out the law, and survive.
>enjoy the game
>don't like any of the characters enough to main them
fuck, i hope the dlc characters give me something i enjoy
>>169953682
Seige is actually enjoyable enough for me to keep coming back to it.
The pros of them having terrible servers is getting that sweet and sexy renown boost for a week.
>>169953126
How does a Conq counter PKs?
>>169953682
This.
Fucking game had pretty much consistently down servers for over a week in February last year.
This was before it got dedicated servers. What's the point of matchmaking/P2P when the matchmaking service is never up, again?
Do Nobushi's dodges feel like shit to anyone else? They seem slower than other character's and there's like a 2 second delay before you can dodge again.
>>169953971
I also really like for honors gameplay
>>169954012
if she had the speedy assassin dodges with her range, she could out footsies way to easily. its defiantly a balancing factor
>>169953971
isnt it only 3 days
>>169953767
>>169953906
how do i improve the fashion lads
>>169953863
very nice
flail looks a bit common though my friend
is that the elite or mythic set?
>>169953280
Kangs are getting blown the fuck out
How can they ever recover?
>>169953971
To be honest I thought siege was gonna be ubisofts only good game
Low and behold I love For honor and have played it for like 70 hours already
Ill stick with the devs for a little more
Till the roman centurion though
>>169954132
>defiantly
?????????
So what can we do about roach and peaceshitter spam? Limit 4v4s to only two repeat classes per team?
>>169954132
So I guess I'm just supposed to block and use swift recoil to gain distance? It's fucking hard to get away from the assassin classes.
>>169954157
They'll come back the the Samurai/Knights have before. 2 days from now they'll be at the weebs door and the cycle will continue.
>>169954157
How do you see the territories out of game?
>>169954157
Probably just fine because they have 2 weeks to do it, and its impossible to hold territory.
Please stop acting like the faction war matter outside of the last two days.
>>169954214
yeh thats more or less the whole fight as nobu, you win by keeping distance and the opponent needs to close it.
the dodge speed and slow guard exists to force this i guess, imagine if she was as fast as roach or pk but still had the range game
>Nobushi's advanced video is just 3 minutes of "Dude look at what you can do with hidden stance"
>No one ever uses it
Seriously what's the point? No one ever gets hit from hidden attacks because everyone plays assassins and have god dodges.
>>169954157
And what will you say when they will eventually take their land back and rape the other two factions again?
>50 kills in vs AI skirmish
snoozeville here i come!
How do I improve my blocking reactions?
I cant block any of pks first lights efficiently how do I get better at this?
(console shitter)
>>169954421
>kill 50 bots in skirmish
>only get 100 steel
fuck off ubisoft
>>169954391
it costs way too much stamina compared to a regular dodge, i only ever use it to get a kick safely
>>169951028
matchmaking happens before hero select. There's an account level mmr.
Still, if that takes too long to match, the screen literally says it is matching you with anyone
>Try Conq after delivering the LAW
>Bullying roach
>Free revenge 1v2
>Shield tackling into unsuspected players
>Those armor customizations
Kniggers and Swamp Slants need to combine forces to see what happens when you steal a faction's entire territory.
>>169954454
Go into custom game and set the bot to a level 3 peacekeeper
Prepare for fucking rage, but keep at it and your blocking should get better.
>>169954504
>matchmaking happens before hero select. There's an account level mmr.
i know, thats what they need to fix
>very high pop elim
>high pop dom
3 months from now itll just be pk twelvies in elim with every other mode dead besides a few autists in duels
>>169954421
>90% dailies are skirmish or elimination
>both gamemodes are 100% dead
thanks ubishit
>>169954593
what are you on about? elim has the highest usage next to dominion
>>169954570
>tfw Ive sat at how to play trying to blocking valks lights which are the same speed as pks
>fail for about an hour
>go and try to get help
>go practice against a level 3 pk
feelsbadman
>>169954276
"war of the factions" link on the OP
>>169954276
I will call out ubisoft for being hacks
How do I beat Valk or PK as Shugoki/Warlord?
>>169954839
>How do I beat (insert hero) as PK/Warlord
Kill yourself dude, for real. You're playing on ez mode and asking for tips?
Is this post bait?
>>169954575
I'll be the one guy playing skirmish alone
>one thousand hours of skirmishing
>the reason he fights, lost to the ages
>>169954920
But I can't beat PK or Valk as Shugoki. Also I'm new at Warlord. I don't play PK at all.
>>169954768
elim skirmish are impossible for me to find a game in, all regions all skill levels and it just times out the matchmaking over and over
are the servers unreachable for anybody else?
>>169954920
Not him, but I sincerely think you need to learn to read.
That said being able to beat PK as warlord is the easiest thing in the fucking game.
Literally just all-block and retaliate with lightning-fast stabs.
>>169953863
>a metal fedora
lmao
>>169949159
>He's gone full political. 9 out of 10 posts is him bashing something about trump
I don't give a shit what your political views are, but nothing is a bigger turn off than injecting politics into shit like video games and it's all people can seem to talk about
so are we gonna actually take down the VIKANGS or what?
>>169955415
ive had to unfollow so many people because of it
mainly because they are crybaby liberals from california who are extremely butthurt and cant shut up, but i would unfollow if it was the reverse too
>Tfw weekend soon
>Tfw knights will actually be playing
GGEZ
>>169955415
>nothing is a bigger turn off than injecting politics into shit like video games
So you hate Deus Ex?
>>169955527
This is the worst meme of 2017.
Guess my hero
>>169955527
Deus Ex is full conspiracy theories
>>169955491
>With my online friends when trump is elected
>All west coast liberals, cool guys outside of that but the indoctrination is real
>"Why did the mid west betray us, why would anyone vote Trump? Ignorant americans ruin us"
>I say "as someone who lives in the midwest and has seen the mass deindustrialization of the area and the general rampant poverty the message of trump "im gonna bring jobs back" is way more attractive than anything Hillary offered, i dont even think she campaigned over here and assumed they would stay blue"
>Their response "fuck economics man who gives a shit, what about gay rights!"
Its really frustrating, i myself am center left all things considered but these bourgeois liberal attitudes really bother me. Only wealthy "intellectuals" could possibly dedicate their life to causes like making more token black people in videogames.
>>169955850
do they use something that isnt a sword
servers fucked for anyone else?
I feel like
>Wow!
>Wow!
>Wow!
spam is the perfect blend of "fuck you you fucking negro god damn fuck" and also just like, a cheeky "you just did that shit lmao ur a smarmy cunt m8"
Ps4 is a good time.
>>169955850
where did you get those stats?
>red white n blue armor color
>eagle ornament
This feels so damn good
I've been trying Orochi, but should I just stick to LB at this point? Or is there a different class you guys think I should check more into?
>>169948572
>morgan_(22).jpg
.... you have a morgan folder? How many fucking pics of her do you have?
>>169956064
I assure you, we get our use out of the phrases even on PC.
>>169955850
warden?
>>169955850
Conq.
>>169955527
>game has political themes =/= game pushes an agenda
>>169956086
just play whichever one you enjoy the most
What's the fastest way of getting steel?
I know playing dominion, but, is it faster to just play peaceshitter and wreck everything? Does that give you more steel than if I were to do terribly?
>>169956095
not much. Last one says (38)
>>169956190
Pay $100 get 150k.
>>169947529
pk becomes warden
i'd rather deal with ryu over and over
>>169956049
Yes
>>169956075
Just type in for honor stats
>>169956129
No
>>169956180
Isn't having political themes injecting politics into video games?
>knights taking all of these territories
>on a week day
The fuck? How is this possible?
>>169956253
>warden is ryu
What is this meme? Kensei is the most fundamental class.
What is this matchmaking. If there are gearscores why match me, a no prestige noob, against a team that will roll me?
>>169956275
raider?
>>169956308
DEUS VULT came early this week.
Rejoice, fellow Christian.
>>169956308
they had a huge surge the second the servers came back up.
Servers went down again, same thing.
In the twilight hours vikings and weebs will creep back.
Curious to see how this weekend compares to the last one
>>169956298
I'm pretty sure its what he meant by "injecting politics"
>>169956086
>Highest level is LAW
Once you go versatile you can't play another class and smile.
>>169956451
The moment I finished prestiging my LB and played another class I smiled.
I could actually hit people and do damage again.
>>169956451
Yeah he's pretty fun, but I feel it's mostly because I really really enjoy parrying people, and he has such a nice combo out of parrying, his ripostes or his GB + side heavy + shove + arm, but I also am liking Orochi and Kensei because of how much damage they do, and parrying as an orochi makes it so you can punish your opponent super hard, so i'm having a difficult time
>>169956298
A game can present ideas to you without explicitly pushing a particular message, for example i could make a game with story arches showing the weaknesses/pitfalls of capitalism but that wouldn't necessarily translate to an endorsement of communism.
Are servers rip? I cant connect on PC
>Stop playing and wait for patch
>Come back
>First round over
>Shit rewards all around
>Everyone's just running in circles now
Man, this game is fucked.
>>169956594
>>169956298
Could you assholes stop being the typical /vg/ shitters
>>169956605
Same
>>169956659
Not until Ubisoft fixes their bullshit so I can log in, no.
How do we fix the defensive meta?
>>169956627
The betas and the first week was great, but now it's just in a very sad place.
I could understand last weekend because the ghost recon beta. For some reason any time they do a beta or free weekend their servers fuck up. For Honor did the same thing to the siege servers during our beta.
But why this weekend?
Anyone a loyalist here?
>Pick only 1 faction
>Play only those faction classes
>>169956691
it worked after i restarted the game and uplay
>>169956605
>absolutely killing it in this game as LB
>servers go down mid game
>>169956741
So dont be a faggot in the general then?
Only you can make a general good
>>169956850
Teams should be faction locked.
>>169956817
The new Division DLC just dropped, and they are offering free 8 hours of gametime for the game now. Everyones trying it out. So they give it more server space so people don't dislike it because bad servers.
The rest of the ubi games suffer. Like you said, same thing happened to siege during the For Honor Alpha/Betas.
>tfw you scrim your friends shugoki and try to learn guard breaks
>tfw after like 30 minutes you realize they cant be teched
well shit
>>169956850
I feel dirty playing other factions
Vikings all the way
>>169953209
you can dodge it but you have to focus pretty fucking hard that you risk getting fucked by something like GB, same thing with warden's up light and zone attack, and EVEERY FUCKING PEACEKEEPER LIGHT EVER FUCK ME NIGGER
>>169956760
I just want to play AI Dominion matches for fun but I can't even do that anymore...
>>169956850
I'd consider that if I chose vikings. Switching after this season regardless
>>169956760
>>169957202
I know ubisoft is shit but its mostly the communities fault
>>169956850
I'm on the Knights side and originally planned to play Warden and Lawbringer, but I just don't really like their playstyle much and I've ended up maining Nobushi. I have no interest in Peacekeeper which only really leaves Conqueror so I guess I'll either learn him or wait to see if I like the new season 2 Knight hero.I'm trying to resist the urge to sub Kensei because I don't want BOTH my characters to be Samurai.
>>169956850
My faction is whoever my main is. If my main changes I'll switch factions at the end of the season.
>>169956754
Make parrys risky and attacking safer should be the general goals
There's a bunch of ways to do this.
>Speed up all normals by at least a few frames
>Give everyone a "warden top light"
>Make heavy attack and feint vunrable to guard break (kills the parry/feint OS)
>Increase chip damage
>Decrease stamina costs of blocked normals
>Make parry timing more strict
>Make the parry input come from lights instead of heavies (prevents feinting)
>Make guard break harder to tech (this would hurt novice/mediocre players a lot though)
>Make guard break feintable
They would only need to do a few of these and some of these arent the best thought through but its very easy to fix. Its just a matter of whether or not ubi will fix it.
>>169957234
same.
I was going to switch before the end of the round, but I fucked up the math the day the round ended and thought it would be tuesday evening, not monday and missed it.
Not because I prefer vikings or whatever, but my twitch voters chose it in a poll when the game came out
>tfw this game is dying faster than Titanfall
at least hope that we dont beat Evolve and Battleborn
>>169957319
Are you me? I'm >>169957234
I also ended up maining Nobu while neglecting knights
>>169957340
Jesus christ are you also me? Was going to switch, realized I was a day late and tried to get ubi to make an exception
OI
POST EMBLEMS
>>169957369
Nigger please
The free DLC will carry us
>>169957202
no kidding. Your teams end up just being a bot and 2 afking fuckwits twirling around at spawn. They really need to crack down on the afk stuff asap. This week has had me questioning whether or not i really feel like playing much more for a while. I miss the magical time before op gear and afkers.
>>169956850
I wanted the reclaim the holy land so I picked knights and I don't regret it all. Their armor sets and ability to customize them are terrific.
Sometimes I make my character do a slow walk just to admire them aesthetics
>>169957403
>>169957369
Its dieing on PC
Titanfall and for Honor are fine with the console cucks
Why do games on PC always fucking die? is the moba cancer that powerful?
>>169957403
>>169957517
Damn anon, what's that look like shrunk down? I'd be worried none of the detail shines through.
>>169956385
I'm legit mad though. Have they mentioned anything about matchmaking? Because I keep getting destroyed since I have no gearscore and the teams I fight against all all prestige.
>PK zone attack bug still isn't fixed
Yep, she definitely needed buffs. Yep.
>>169956850
i've enjoyed all samurai but sat on shugoki for a long time. Lately though, i've been finding myself reeeeally loving the raider and even the conqueror. I'm almost tempted to unlock the forge set for my raider i like it so much.
>>169957337
>give everyone a "warden top light"
it's not that much faster than a lot of lights and it's one of warden's only special qualities
>>169957610
Most emblems are unidentifiable when shrunken down, provided they're not emoji's. Thankfully i mostly play duels, so the other player gets a nice little blown up image of it.
>>169957649
>PK can no longer cancel her zone attack on block
Such an easy fix to make this character slightly less cancerous, but this wont happen.
>>169957564
> is the moba cancer that powerful?
It is. Half the people I've added from playing this game are already back on Overwatch/DOTA.
I wish I were casual enough to enjoy either, but they just bore the ever-loving fuck out of me.
>>169957823
I dont really care For Honors fun as it is an d I already got fucking 70 hours into it
Im just gonna wait for the Centurion
Legit, how is this balanced or fun?
>>169957649
They should just leave that glitch in at this point and give everyone else 50/50 or unreactable mixups. Having every other mixup reactable is turning out to be incredibly boring at high levels vs turtles.
>>169957907
its not your first character
>>169957564
Titanfall always have bunch of PC players playing it tho
mostly fast fags from tribe
>>169957792
I was about to say you were wrong because I can see emblems just fine in 4v4 modes but my TV is actually really huge so now I'm worried no one can see my emblem
How do you fix the turtle meta?
>>169956371
[YEEEEEEEEEEAAAARGH INTENSIFIES]
So is fucking orochi good or what
I dont fucking like him yet I still play him
>>169957907
i dunno, i think we won though
>>169957732
Its not that much faster but its fast enough to avoid being parried 100% by high level players unlike most attacks in this game.
That makes a huge difference.
Also warden has his extremely good (albeit risky) ZA, double hitting side lights and strong vortex to give him flavor other characters lack.
I think having a "go to" poke for most characters would make the game less stale.
>>169957907
>blanked out name for no purpose other than so people can't search your name up and see that you have a Rep 20 orochi main and you are just baiting for (You)s
Here's your (You) then.
Who else has the bad /best in my friend group/ feels?
>Regularly have to carry the team when we play
>Sometimes winning is impossible because they can't finish off their guys
>One of them insists on trying out new characters even though we're playing 4v4 mode, they don't know the moveset, and have no fucking gear
>Can't play without them because the others in the group won't just kick them from the game
Life is suffering
https://youtu.be/Vo3v_RAjXKk
>mfw we won this game
> friend playing
> I can't get on
WHAT IS THIS
>>169957997
If you don't know that Orochi is good, you're a bad player.
It's definitely in the upper half of the bell curve.
>>169956850
I'm a column loyalist, not a row loyalist. I picked heavies.
>>169947529
warden by far, at least his shit can be reacted to
>>169958078
I cant wrap my head around it
Maybe im a shitter but fuck
>>169958028
having some kind of way to break defences, like the shoulder bash/shield bash/shove would be more ideal for breaking the defensive meta
>>169958031
I don't mind if it's a friend, it's annoying with randoms though.
>>169956016
It's always "People who supported Trump are fucking retards" and never "I don't support him"
They can't even fathom why people would have supported him, especially when one of his biggest promises was to enforce already fucking existing immigration laws
>>169958078
Except he literally can't do anything against a good player
valk is fucking cancer now holy shit
>>169958078
orochis like a shit warden
>>169957943
Lol no worries mine is 'uge too, but i recognize this is not something everyone has. Don't make your emblem for others anon, do it for you. The one i linked actually has a whole backstory based off a dnd character I had.
>>169954157
God damn it. I'm not home so I can't play but itching to contribute to the crusade
who should i get too rep 3 next? Digits decide.
>>169958163
>fast lights
>fast sidesteps
>good damage
He's basically a better kensei.
>>169957403
I like simple emblems >>169957403
>>169957907
>>169957938
>>169958030
Yea okay, what now? I have no prestige's or decent gear. So wtf is up with matchmaking?
>>169958326
conk
>>169958330
Exactly this. Kensei has one of the top 1v1 winrates currently.
Orochi is probably good, most of its players probably bad. Simple statistics.
>guy has twitch in his name
alt-f4
>>169958407
Why? The absolute best feeling is getting a streamer and stomping them into the ground 3-0
>>169958393
>new picture name blanked out is shorter than the other one
>just googled someone's picture and trying to pass it off as them
Stop lying. We don't give two shits what your name is. There is an entire google doc of people's names in the OP. People post webms and images with their names in them.
Stop being a pussy.
>>169958393
This games matchmaking is shit tier, it's a common fact. Ubisoft prioritized fast matchmaking over fair ones since the skill restriction goes from strict to extended in 5 seconds. The game doesn't even bother waiting to find the best possible match.
>>169958031
>brawling with a friend that is terrible and constantly causes you to almost lose but you're too nice to say anything
It truly is suffering
>>169958461
No good streamer puts their twitch username ingame anyway.
No reason to fear the channels with 2 viewers.
>>169957403
Anyone else unable to connect to servers?
How do you fix it? My friend in the same city just got in no trouble and I was playing fine two hours ago.
>>169958153
Yeah, i myself am an immigrant and as i said before I'm generally left of center on political issues but these days i find it incredibly difficult to talk to my liberal friends about politics. Anythign that goes against the poltitically acceptable hot spots (like global warming is bad right?!) are no go zones. I can have more fruitful political discussions with my right wing, pro life, conservative christian mother in law. Who by all accounts im told is an evil fascist that should be punched for disagreeing with me on certain issues.
My entire life i watched movies painting conservative christians as evil but these days im finding more and more that they are genuinely decent people who deserve nothing but respect (if not admiration) while our liberal intelligentsia deserves nothing but contempt.
What if berserker lights were the speed of peace keepers?
>>169958683
That would honestly be fine since he always has to lead with and continue with a heavy to apply pressure unlike the PK who is rewarded for mashing lights.
>>169958683
I cant get into zerker or any assassin
>>169958137
It's even worse for a friend to me because they're actively making us lose
>only way to win at high level play is to fight defensively
Turtling was a mistake
GEAR WAS A MISTAKE
>>169958850
You mean like a real fight?
Trying to play berserker pisses me off
>Play duel
>Generally cool people, can feel myself getting better every match
>Play 4v4 for orders
>Nothing but cancer, games are a clusterfuck and things can go either great or awful even against the same opponents
>>169956850
Yes. Autism is one hell of a disease
> Picked knights because they are the coolest
> Only play knights
> Refuse to play peacekeeper because she is a girl and a slut
> Feel dirty when playing conqueror because I get kills too easily
> Feel bad playing warden because everyone talks shit about him
> Lawman is the honest choice, but I can barely win a duel with him
Waiting for the next patch to buff lawman so I can finally have fun in the game
>>169959041
Are you kidding me revenge gear is the only defence against a gank squad
>>169959128
That's bullshit and you know it
>>169956371
holy shit delete this before people see it
>>169959232
>defending revenge gear
kill yourself desu
Someone add me so we can play 2V2 on the PC
DiggerN1ck
>>169958850
All that needs to happen is to increase the stamina cost of bashes and blocks while also making parrying have a smaller window.
Conqueror and Warlord are fucking aids. And as much as Lawbringers want to play the victim playing against them is aids too.
>>169959232
>Are you kidding me revenge gear is the only defence against a gank squad
Yeah except for when it's used in a 1 vs 1 situation.
>>169959128
There is a difference between regular old defense and the current defense meta in for honor
Making a move just seals your fate
>>169956754
Quadruple the near nonexistent chip damage.
>>169959364
Lawbringer has no choice, and for him, you still have to relatively skilled to play defensively, because you have to parry. Most of the game's players can't do that.
Conq and shitlord is easy because of their full block bullshit
>>169959230
Nigga, git gud or learn to stop giving a shit. You know what characters DON'T get complained about by shitters just for existing? None. And if you're going to be repping my boy THE LAW you better suck it up and get better, because at this point you should know what you're getting into.
>>169959232
>Are you kidding me revenge gear is the only defence against a gank squad
Except revenge gear gives you fucking revenge in 1v1 fights after like 5 blocks, or even if you take damage. Revenge gear purely helps shitters
>>169959321
PLEASE
>see google doc for ps4 players
>none of the regulars at high rep duels
>>169959567
I'm trying my best
Can't deal with people feinting and parrying lights is hard
Being lawman is suffering
>tfw on tilt because I'm getting outplayed
>go back to kensei
>play some soothing music
>salt fading
Give me some more chill music, /fhg/
Who /alreadybored/ here?
>Still see stuff regarding being able to make vikangz black
>See an advertised article on goybook about first non-Japanese samurai was black
>ohboyherewegoagain
>Top comments are "WE WUZ SAMOO-RYE N SHIET"
I swear if I start seeing shit about negro knights I'm going to think this was all an Ubisoft ploy
>>169958675
The simple fact is no one can actually give any valid reasons why illegals should be allowed to stay and continue draining our economy through benefits, sending money out of the country, and not paying anything beyond sales tax. The only real reason they have is "muh feelings"
Meanwhile if I go to Mexico illegally they'll throw me in fucking prison
>>169959317
No you
>>169959364
Yea basically
>>169959457
See you would have a point if it weren't for the fact 1v1 never happens in modes where gear is allowed
>>169959570
The only 1v1 that happens in 4v4 modes is right at the start of the round and it doesn't last long enough
What does "FHTR Score" mean?
>>169959674
im kind of bored, and i cant really try new characters until i afk them to rep 3 so i can stand a chance against people i get matched up with and that takes 2-3 nights
>>169959654
Then play a different character? I don't know why people suffer just so they can get e-peen points for playing a "non-meta" character.
>>169959690
>The only 1v1 that happens in 4v4 modes is right at the start of the round and it doesn't last long enough
You're a fucking retard. 1v1 happens nonstop in dominion and elimination. And there's no fucking defending getting revenge in 1v1s, ever
>>169959673
Mostly anything nujabes. I like Feather.
Though after my trips to /gif/ I've been liking vaporware or whatever it's called
>>169959684
conq is the only knight with visible skin
>long arm juggle a valkryie
>he gets super salty about it
how
like dodge right nigga
how the fuck is it this hard
>>169959674
Not me. I love the games mechanics but everything about it pisses me off, i'm afraid of breaking my computer.
I regret buying this game tbqh.
All right, which one of you fucks did I just go up against?
A pair of retards with the Nazi symbol as your emblem, trying to cheese us off ledges with your shitlord and shugoki, in brawl.
Such cancer.
>>169959674
i'm done
it was a fresh formula but holy shit you hit a certain point and you're just done. too many problems.
back to titanfall i go
>>169959824
Have you tried not playing 4v4?
>>169959779
You're either full of shit or incredibly lucky in 4v4 modes I only ever see fucking gank squads of roaches running around.
>>169959745
Try your new characters in brawl.
Duel is too serious, 4v4 is cancer, brawl is normally just right.
You might get fucked at first, but the people in brawl are usually anywhere from decent>pretty good, so it's a perfect place to learn, normally.
Im playing Berserker since I see no one plays berserker
I can see why people dont play berserker
>>169959673
L O - F I
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You degenerate furry.
>tfw you win first two matches of a duel, then lose the next three straight
>tfw the match was interesting enough that you're too stuck on thinking what you did wrong so you can't play another match
wish i would have rematched that guy desu
>>169960015
I want femzerker toshove the pommel of her axe in my ass while she forces herself on top of me and suffocates me with her strong thighs!
>>169960015
Everyone always goes on about how shit berserker is but they give me more trouble than any other assassin to fight.
>>169959919
Yes. In 1 vs 1 everyone does nothing and waits for the parry, and 2 vs 2 is too much of a gamble on your partner not being shit.
The less total number of players there are, the less certain heros become viable. You'll never see a raider in 1 vs 1, it's always Warden Warlord Orochi Conq Nobushi and Peacekeeper. I understand why 4 vs 4 is the more popular mode, 1 vs 1 is completely imbalanced even without gear.
if the connection bars on my duel partner are red does that mean i have high ping or they do?
every game i've played today is laggy as fuck
>>169960132
>every game i've played today is laggy as fuck
there's your answer you dumb fuck
>>169960193
Actually, the servers are performing exceptionally poorly today, you dumb fuck.
>>169960193
that's not a helpful response
>>169959684
>I swear if I start seeing shit about negro knights I'm going to think this was all an Ubisoft ploy
Martin Lawrence did it first.
>>169960098
I want femzerker tofuck me like an absolutely furious animal
>4v4 Dom
>1k+ vs 1k+
>Whole team is dead
>Entire enemy team is still alive
>Run around stealth capping points for health, picking off enemies one at a time and using their bodies as revive bait
>All that's left is their lone Kensei
>Both of us brawling in a corner with a sliver of health
>Weeb goes for an unblockable
>Kill him with a quick zone
>Team goes wild
Felt fucking good.
>>169960015
To be a good Berserker you gotta know how to deflect since its an automatic guard break and he does SO MUCH DAMAGE
>>169960115
just parry them
>>169959861
>A pair of retards with the Nazi symbol
>my poorly made swurstikur legitimately triggers neo-/v/ redditors
>literal wall text rants about racism and anti-antisemitism
>kill them as they're typing
>mfw im jewish
>>169959321
>>169959595
PLEASE
if I'm in murica, and I buy the EMEA/EUR version, at what point does it check my region? Would I need to go through a VPN every time I play?
I'm more than willing to pay 30$ for this, and that's the only way to get it at that price.its not like i value my ubisoft account or anything
what am I support to do after I shield bash someone as conq?
cant really connect into anything
light attack is too far and heavy just ask to be parry
>>169959684
HOL UP
WE BE LIKE
WE BE SUM
*smacks sword and board together*
LEMME GET DIS STRAIGHT
*reachs for trebuchet of chicken*
SUM SORTA
*deez vults*
NITES N SHIET?
>>169959960
In dominion it's very common for one smart player to pick a zone and camp it the entire game, so I'm 1v1ing them a lot trying to take and keep the point. But they nonstop get revenge because gear is broken.
And it doesn't matter how often it happens, getting revenge by blocking 5 fucking hits, or even taking damage, is fucking bullshit. There's no defending it
>>169960370
what level?
>>169960335
Is that really it?
I know doing the feint guard break works but it works like half the time
yfw you carry your team at a disadvantage
I usually play 1v1 only as lawbringer and if I see dirty fucking orochi, warden or pk, I just use a few grabs/pushes/feints to see if they are good or not, if good, I just go to the cliff and try to throw them off, If they are not good, I just parry and push them around the map spamming halberd hump emote as long as possible till they rage or quit, preferably both.
>>169960335
if you exhaust someone you can do side heavy into overhead for a shitload of dmg
>>169960527
Its the same with all assassins except maybe PK. Against most players you'll get to start up a combo that will probably kill them and against the really good ones you'll get damage FOR FREE
this game will be bargain bin by summer and f2p by winter 2017.
there will never be a for honor 2
ubisoft has fucked up beyond belief with this
it is aggressively boring
I'm rep 0 rank 14
I've been playing warden this whole time and good lord am I horrible at this game
should I just stick to fighting bots till I can consistently beat level 3's before fighting players?
>>169960652
okay buzz kill just leave
>>169960569I'm pretty sure I'm a scrub
>>169960650
Im just playing Berserker just becasue '
There are to much orochis and PKs
>>169960652
I'll wait for the end of the season and the first major content update to pass judgement. They managed to stabilize R6 Siege somehow, so I'll wait and see.
>>169960353
wow ur so cool how i can be so hardcore lik u
>>169960663
Well, if you can consistently beat level 3 bots, then you'll be able to beat most players.
Reason being that most players fight like bots, but worse. The players that don't fight like bots are the ones you will have trouble with, but those players are pretty rare.
>>169960652
The game printed money. I can see there being a for honor 2 with ubisoft learning from this but yeah the game won't last long at it's current rate. They just need to revolve cashing around nothing but pure cosmetics, none of this high stats bullshit where revenge kills you in 2 hits.
>>169960652
What's with tortanic posters shitting up every single general
>>169960821
guess I should stick to fighting bots then I'm still having trouble with level 2 bots so I guess I need to git gud before actually fighting people
>>169960823
There wont be a for honor 2 since this game is getting free content
ubisoft is in the long term game now
>>169960791
siege is still kind of a flop
>Round Six: Tiebreaker Round
>>169960789
There certainly are. Keep going little Zerk, yours is truly noble work.
>>169960949
dont tell me you listen to crowbcuck
>>169960949
But it's not dead, and I'll take that with For Honor since I expected half the players at launch that it has now.
>>169960902
One thing I should say, though, is that while fighting bots is good training, it's still entirely different from fighting players.
After you make the transition from bots to players, it'll feel different, and you might fuck up at first, but you should adapt quickly, since the point of the bot training is to improve reflexes for teching, blocking, parrying, deflecting, and to learn your character, and any special moves other characters have.
>>169960943
Free content doesn't mean much if the playerbase doesn't stick around because the game is unfair
People expect microtransactions from gook free to play games, not a game they payed 70 dollars for. That alone is fucking disgusting
>>169961036
i dont know what that is
>>169960823
i wouldn't say that
look at the credits. this game was made by like a thousand people over the course of many years
the buzz is bad, the reviews are bad, and ubisoft stock is reacting in kind
the game has incredible potential like siege did but it isn't a fps. it has no actual market potential beyond first-week sales at this point. it's done already, and good riddance. fuck ubisoft for p2p and for releasing a game that barely functions and just letting it sit
>>169960902
The lvl 2 bots are better than most people. People make lots of mistakes, even the lvl 1 bots can block better than most players.
>>169961126
You would be surprised
We gotta see why the devs do for this game though
>>169961060
alrighty then thanks for the help
>>169959783
Yeah, been listening to Fat Jon tonight.
>>169960019
>Jubei from Blazblue
>furry
I don't want to fuck the cat, I want the motherfucker to be playable. But apparently shitty waifus from shitty games no one played are more important to Mori
>>169961246
why didnt the gunman just pull the trigger? That was like a 3 hour disarm.
>>169961141
Expect all the bad reviews are literally for P2P
>>169961141
>fuck ubisoft for p2p and for releasing a game that barely functions and just letting it sit
More like fuck us since we bought it. I knew damn well ubisoft was going to pull their usual ubisoft bullshit but I gave in anyway since I enjoyed the beta a lot.
Ubisoft being faggots aside, even if we did get dedicated servers and no more gear stats the game would still suffer from a shit tier level of balance. The turtling meta is very real, just watch high level plays and tournaments.
What's considered a good KD for a lawman who only plays brawl?
>>169960798
6 million hours playing roach
Fuck it
Berserker fucking sucks I hate playing as him
I cant believe this but in gravitating to the roach
>Nuboshi keeps getting pouty when I parry her lights and go 3-1
>Dick becomes diamonds
>>169961546
You make baby Thor sad
>>169961546
Have you tried not playing a cancerous assassin?
>>169961546
play valk
>>169961360
it's a fresh game. i loved the beta and bought it. played it quite a bit and got my money's worth by any measure.
but the trajectory of the player population is really, really bad. the casual players are gone within a week. these are the ones that would need to sustain a game under a discounted or f2p model and there just isn't a game for them here.
there is nothing they can do with this gameplay to hook the casual gamer. instead, it will be p2p fighting game degenerates staring at eachother for 3 minutes until the next fighting game comes out, and nothing between them and a complete newbie.
i'm not trying to shit on the game in this general, and yeah i am coming off a ridiculous buttblasting in it tonight, but objectively it is in a dire state already
>>169961334
What pisses me off is I'm gonna buy the game because I always do when it comes to ME. But boy are my expectations catastrophically low.
Also, post a few tracks for your hero.
>KENSEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F90w-ZHNXnI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StKU43pJLCc
>WARDEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StKU43pJLCc
>BERSERKER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFYVcz7h3o0
>>169961618
You dont fucking understand for the past 2 WEEKS I have been looking for a 3rd hero to get to rep 3
I got Warden and Kensei to rep 3 and loved every hour of that
currently I have been trying to get into a new hero and I cant every single one I touch has been shit and I have gotten orochi is rep 1
>>169961682fugged up>warden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StKU43pJLCc
>>169961724
as garbage as lawbringer is right now, he's fun
>>169961724
Maybe your burnt out?
>>169961665
>be new player
>queue for 4 vs 4
>get put up against level 3 prestige players with revenge spec gear
>get fucked
>same shit in 1 vs 1 and 2 vs 2 but without the gear
The game really discourages you from being new, it doesn't even give you a break unless you just want to play against bots all the time
>>169961682
Nobushi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGftIcp2SC0It also works for Valkyrie, but for different reasons.
Let samurai win and no one gets hurt
>>169950063
>Hurr how do I trade lights with a slow, glowing shoulder bash?
>How do I roll?
>How do I feint?
>>169961856
Good riddance to bad garbage.
>tfw had this game since release and my highest level is 9
feels bad having a lifeatleast spring break is coming soon
>>169961856
You think I care what you do to your dinner?
>>169960453
I'm not very good but I just want to play
I been really enjoying and playing the shit out of Warlod, i been winning games and doing crazy combos on him, although i seem to have trouble against Warden and Peacekeeper, especially when I'm spamming too much to the point i'm low on stamina, any tips and tricks on Warlord?
>Warlord
>having trouble against Warden and PK
>>169950063
>complaining about warden when warlord exists
>>169961980
being good with warlord suppose to be a challenge?
>>169961980
>warlord
>crazy combos
>warlord
>having trouble with PK
>>169961989
This shit gets used ironically so much that I have no idea if you're being facetious or not.
I want centurion
What's the right time to open Chests? Renown 3?
>>169962152
Soon
>>169962094
It is my actual opinion.Deathmatch would instantly switch places w/Dominion if they removed powerups.
When did they add the whirlwind effect for executions/emotes/idle for nobushi? It looks kinda bland but at least it's different.
MESO
MESO
MESO
MESO
MESO
MAKE IT STOP
>>169962152
>another shield class
>>169962191
Ahh, well then I fully agree, spoiler included.
>>169962094
Not him but that is the definitive tier list for game modes.
>deathmatch - utter cancer
>dominion - can be pretty cancerous but can have some funny moments
>duel - good but can get repetitive
>brawl - fun chaos with non-repetitive duels
>>169961834
that just speaks to some balance issues and the skill ceiling. the former can be fixed but the latter won't, and i don't think they're going to see an incentive to do it. they have to increase value for their shareholders. this game would have to defy all odds at this point to do so, even if a skeletal f2p model is clearly there.
i'd like it if it did, because its failure would just move AAA games even further towards complete casual nonsense that nobody really enjoys. but that's already happening. casual gamers HATE this game and i don't blame them.
there's a brief period where you really enjoy it but the mmr puts you right into a point where you no longer can, and the bottom just falls out. fuck ubisoft and RIP in peace to a great, fresh AAA idea
>>169960949
>the #1 ubi game that has only been growing since summer and has had tons of free content and gameplay improvement updates
>flop
the servers are shit but thats the case with every ubi game, it has problems but its a pretty gud game and its picking up steam bc people are seein that.
FH could easily appeal to high level competitive play if they wanted to, and make an enjoyable to watch easy-to-enjoy mid level experience if they wanted.
>Daily order for 5 executions in Skirmish
>It's a shitty mode, but that shouldn't be too hard
>Everyone is cluster fucking the bots, literally jumping in last second to steal my kill
>End of the game have 3 fucking executions because faggots won't stop stealing my kills
STOP MAKING DAILIES FOR FUCKING SKIRMISH, NO ONE LIKES THIS MODE
Friendly reminder to all Lawbros.
You don't have the reach of a Nobushi but remember you're armed with a poleaxe. You can get hits on people who misjudge the distance.
>>169962295
it's a first person shooter
this game won't get a whiff of that kind of popularity
how do you deal with Warden shoulder charge cancel into grab?
If I hit dodge and he grab he then connect into heavy
if I try to tech it then I will be hit by the charge if he didnt grab me
>>169962320
if it's a order against AI, disable matchmaking so it's just you and everyone else is bots.
>>169957802
>lets make a move that is slightly better than warden and orochi zone completely worthless because I cant learn how to block!
>>169961141
>the reviews are bad
>78% on metacritic
alright bud
>>169962335
My favourite part of fighting Lawbringers as a Nobushi main is when we both forget we can't grab one another after a parry. Bonus points if both people do this multiple times.
>>169962320
you literally just have to hit the bot with any attack even if he blocks to get credit on any kill. Theres no "assists" in this game.
>>169959523
Grats you just made PK even more busted, since she can stuff anything you do at neutral anyway and you're forced to block her after just about anything.
>>169962342
I see ur point but I feel like the deadliest warrior esque take and simple combat is a pretty good draw ffor normies but idk im pretty sure ur right
>>169961989
Skirmish is so highly evolved that it can't be perceived, right?
>try warlord
>win without even trying against a rep 6 warden
What the fuck is this bullshit. Warlord is literally like, you are playing checkers and everyone else is playing hungry hungry hippos.
Holy fucking shit playing against PK as Conq is fucking annoying
>>169962349
light attacks beat both
Whats with the fucking tactic of people spamming their zone attacks and always being our of range?
Its like an orochi and warden thing only
>>169962349
If you're a class who can do it, do a side dodge attack. Kensei, Nobushi, Peacekeeper, Orochi, Berserker, maybe some other people I'm not remembering.
If you are none of them, roll away by unlocking and pressing the dodge button. You can't grab people who are rolling.
>>169962430
'Deathmatch' includes both Skirmish and Elimination.
>>169961546
>can feint literally every move including lights
>can GB after every feint
>does the highest amount of damage on top heavy so you can just throw them into a wall after feinting and delete HP
You're literally just bad at him. Stop trying to dash attack all the time.
>>169962457
I hope you mean't it the other way around
>>169962430
deathmatch = both elimination and skirmishi have never had less fun than getting gangraped 7 times in a row by gearscore 108 valkyries with damage boost and supersonic speed while trying to get the "complete skirmish with 5 or less deaths" order
>>169962349
>he cant dodge warden
MISERUM
>>169950780
What do you mean counter? Fast attack classes counter shugoki because they can get rid of his armor fast and shit and attack him when its down, he can't attack back if his armor is out
>>169962476
doesnt them canceling shoulder bash to parry your shit deal with that work for him?
>>169962507
Wait he can feint lights?
>>169962404
it's a AAA title, bud
do we not know how this works, bud?
i'm not saying it's a bad game. it deserves better. but the buzz is unplayable p2p and a laggy mess. drill deeper and you get balance complaints. nowhere do you get any appeal to casual gamers in any review. and it's a 78 from ubisoft which means it is a 50.
>>169962557
He can feint every single attack.
As long as you do 1 point of damage to a bot and your friend kills it you both get credit. If you have a not shit team in skrimish vs AI you can get about 25 kills each.
>>169962349
Either roll out like an autobot or stuff his GB with literally any attack.
>>169962467
Conqueror is actually a really good counter for her.
>>169961546
Berserker requires a LOT of work to make good. He's really, really high effort and he doesn't even reward you that much for it honestly.
>>169942161
>Go take a nap because servers are down
>Wake up, servers still down
>FeelsBadMan
>>169962209
I hope it's not another shield class or at least give centurion something to make it feel different
Bonkueror is my shielder.
>>169962565
just leave
>>169962556
If they're able to pull off all these moves consistantly, while also being able to judge if you are going to dodge/wait for tech/light attack, then they're honestly pretty good.
At that point you try to get them to do what you want them to do. Zones/backrolling, someone mentioned sidestep swings if able. beating them to the grab
>>169962673
>t. ubishill
The game is out now. You're no longer needed.
>>169962673
hahaha blow me
>>169962371
Bots get in the way as well, but definitely not as much
>>169962413
Executions my dude.
>>169962349
learn his patterns and take the shoulder once, stuff it with a light if he keeps doing it but he can feint bait and parry you. you can also just side step it if he does keep doing it or if he charges it then he cannot feint so its an easy sidestep (i think, i never really fight wardens who charge it much)
side dash attacks are also very strong, because the attack beats the gb and the step beats the unblockable. really just learn the pattern, its not that bad to take double side light once and learn if the warden loves to feint or not, from there you can just deduce what the best option is based on how he enjoys applying his pressure.
>>169962635
Servers aren't down. I had this problem earlier.
Open up command line and type
>ipconfig /flushdns
And see if that fixes things.
I literally can't deal with PK light attacks. I can just barely manage to block them but if they start mixing in heavy feints and zones I can't deal with it.
Who else here is wageslave knight?
>Balancing work, gym, and bringing the LAW
This is true suffering
im a shitter
I cant play berserker holy fuck
trying to play this character is making me mad
>>169962940
If you switch guard after first guard (such as trying to block a zone feint, and then reacting to a top light) depending on your class your guard switch after the first initial switch can be too slow to actually guard, I'm pretty sure. But also her 9f zone into very fast top light w/ light startup indicator bug into zone is really fuckin gay
>>169962030
Ehh just mixing and matching, although i can't seem to not do his shield bash counter on the ps4 only just guard breaking
>>169962052
Just her attacks, too fast for me although i def need practice on guardbreak counter
>for honor servers are down again
>uplay brings up an ad for the season pass
hahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>169961546
Berserker is generally poking, feinting and hitting people with lights until you can unleash the GB into a wall>top, or light>heavy>top-heavy combo for 85% of someone's health bar. Or just straight up dodge-light into top-heavy that surprises so many in terms of sheer damage.
You actually have work hard for your kills because most people won't give you the opening you want, so you sort of have to brute force it. Which is the point and why Berserker has one of the highest, if not the highest stamina count in the game. You're supposed to force the enemy to block, because you still do a respectable amount of damage through blocks as well. Only problem that arrives is that they're extremely easy to parry, so, extremely easy to parry. But that's what we got feints for.
>>169962457
>Warlord is literally like, you are playing checkers and everyone else is playing hungry hungry hippos.
what the fuck does that even mean
>>169963131
fucking feeling this shit on the xbone too right now..
>>169963131
Oy vey if you buy season pass we can get bigger servers goyimfor ghost recon
>>169963131
Flush your dns cache.
>>169963165
How viable is the exhaustion side heavy into top heavy combo for berserker? it's some crazy damage but i don't play or fight against the character ever and when I have I never really noticed myself being out of stam unless i was a retard and got parried
>really think we need to buff those iframes guys
>>169963278
Yeah a lot of the side dodges are stupid bullshit. I can kind of see them being coded to avoid Top attacks, but sometimes as Nobushi I'll do my sweeping side heavy and people will dodge RIGHT into it (not Deflect timing) and just fucking phase through it.
>>169963243
Pretty sure that doesn't even combo. I've only hit people like, once with an exhaustion heavy and that's been a killing blow.
>>169963278
shouldve gone for the unblockable desu senpai what idiot is going to let you get two top heavies off?
Well this is the last ubisoft game I ever buy. First I bought since Far Cry 3. Thought this would be fine. Nope. Out of the last 4 days 90% unplayable during peak times. These cunts need beheading.
wew lads I'm getting my ass handed to me level 3 bots are hard as shit
guess I won't be playing multiplayer till I git gud and stop being a shitter at this game
>>169963278
This is true suffering for LBs heavy ending combo
>They just dodge in the direction the pole axe is coming from
>Can see it clip right through them
>Ubisoft: "Hmm what should we fix? Oh I know let's nerf Conq"
>>169963473
>>169963453
Nah, the level 3 bots have the right mix of perfect reaction to your attacks, while being unpredictable and random with the shit they through out. I'm pretty competent at the game and even I'll get put away by a level 3 bot on occasion.
>>169963453
Bots are harder than humans because they read your input. They were too lazy to even code bots that would resemble a human reaction wise.
>>169963374
I'm just parroting desu. try it out? I only saw a clip and it looked like it comboed but yeah I could be full of shit.
>>169963453
Bots cheat and are better than players in a lot of cases. Fucking shield bots especially magically switch to block wherever you attack from last second more than half the fight
>>169963453
Im seriously telling you dude, the bots are better than most players. You'll be fine. Its fun, more fun than fighting cheating bots.
>>169950106
after a shove, especially after mixup, you can sometimes surprise them with a spicy no superstes
only gets you a light but still
So feint as zerker are you always getting a GB?
How about if they force us to choose between revenge buildup, revenge attack and revenge defence on only one gear slot? I think the main problem at the moment is that we can equip gear that allows us to be a god at revenge buildup, attack and defence. The additional damage and defence that revenge gives needs to be nerfed too and maybe make it so a hit as you activate revenge only cause a stagger instead of a fall. Most times, you get killed before you can even get up as a result.
>>169963526
They read inputs.
>>169963442
it's a fun game and really smart at the core. and if you look at the dev interviews and shit either these are game-making nerds who are really good actors, or it was actually a labor of love.
it's the kind of new IP that deserves to succeed and the kind of game that only a fuckface company like ubisoft can fuck up
imagine this in competent hands. and yes i realize it's tacky to just shit on ubisoft here and i won't post again but just imagine this game in the hands of a company that isn't completely inept
>>169944659
I didn't get banned I just haven't been drawing
I just wanted to finish that valk thing so I didn't have anything else promised and set in stone. I said I wanted to do more but I'mnot very good at drawingso it's hard to really produce something that gives lawconq copsjustice
Finishing a game takes too long, I often quit instead.
>>169963750
I only feel this way with skirmish
So Zerker can feint ALL of his moves?
JFC I WANNA PLAY 2V2 BUT I HAVE NO FUCKING FRIENDS
Any other Nobushi players figure out exactly how Hidden Stance actually fucking works yet ? Does it just shift your hitbox back a little ? It often feels pretty random whether or not it's going to actually dodge a hit.
What Viking class should I prestige? Raider, Berserker or Valkyrie?
>>169963828
Yes.
>>169963838
it gives you i-frames
>>169963473
>Ubisoft suggesting they need to nerf Conq
>Already a numerous amount of problems that are much worse
I don't understand, I don't see anything overpowering regarding Conq. Why couldn't they just give everyone who has trouble a little boost like they did Valk? Raiders are almost non-existent and LB is really fun has some shortcomings
>>169963838
>can't play Nobushi on pad because it's fucking hard to do HS with the PS4 analog stick
Jesus christ I'll be trying to shift into it to bait shit or to style on niggas and it won't come out consistently. It's so frustrating
Fix the goddamn goddamn connection and punish leaving already
>Doing Skirmish versus players for the daily
>We're behind by a hundred, but it's early we can come back from this
>OROCHI MAIN 000202 HAS LEFT THE GAME
>O-okay we can still do this
>PLAYER HAS LEFT THE GAME
>"Since those others left I'm leaving too"
>PLAYER HAS LEFT THE GAME
>Now it's me and three bots against a full team I have no hope of beating
This is the most frustrating fucking thing. Because one faggot can't handle losing it turns into a fucking domino effect of people leaving my team
>>169963958
They should just make Conqueror more proactive rather than reactive. I personally like Conqueror's aesthetic and some of her moves, but holy fuck are they boring to play as and fight against. A low-damage Warlord that's not as frustrating to fight.
The whole 'defense/passive' meta is boring as fuck
>>169964075
>her
>>169964095
>him
ftfy, faggot
>>169964039
Okay, you should really stop making up bullshit. We all know that the match you were in had 3 AFK players
>>169964095
>>169964147
>feminine mace
>>169963526
>>169963529
>>169963536
>>169963552
>>169963660
would level 2 bots be better than 3 then or do they still do the same shenanigans?
the only reason why I want to play with bots is because I have red nat(thanks 3rd world) and matchmaking is slow and I need to practice my slow ass reaction times
>>169963531
I'll give it a try next time I'm out of stamina. If it combos, it could be pretty useful, i mean, a lot of people get GBd by an exhausted guy simply because the timing is so off. Perhaps the same thing will happen with the top-heavy combo.
>>169963865
you know in your heartLEGENDARY
>tfw like Orochi
>hate most Orochi players
>decide to harm myself by play berserker
>have a terrible time as zerker
>won't switch due to muh code
Should I just wait for the centurion?
>>169964039
they can't punish leavers in a game with fairly strict mmr, a multitude of playlists and quests that fragment players across them, a story mode, and p2p connections
it's way too fragmented. any given ragequitter is actually a significant portion of the in-game, per-playlist population.
there is really nothing they can do. i was surprised they separated skirmish and elimination, even.
>>169953645
Zaku is 10/10
>>169964350
What's making you have a terrible time with Zerker? I'm still having fun, and I'm rep 7 with the cunt.
>>169964305
Now see if its a feminine mace it actually makes it LESS gay than if it was straight on mace vs shield. I've gone to college for a full year so I know my shit man.
>>169964270
Players are constantly rage quitting in 4v4 modes to avoid taking the loss, and it makes winning after they leave almost impossible because bots are piss easy to lead to a ledge and throw
>>169964370
They need to do something, because I'm getting turned off of 4v4 at all based on how fucking often faggots quit and leave me alone
>>169963278
Raider can confirm top heavy off wallstun?
>>169964653
If law can do it then raider can
>4v4
>Rep 3 Warden
>Rep 2 Conq
>Rep 1 Law
>Can't decide who to play
Anyone have any more pictures of higher level equipment? I want to be
a e s t h e t i c
>>169964587
they ought to. but look at the population numbers and look at the trajectory of that population. a lot of people quitting your matches are getting in their cars and bringing the game back to the retailer, never to play again. we're at like 25% of launch population on all platforms and it's going down daily. you might have 20k online, but that's 20k across all playlists, story mode, fucking around with emblems, etc. each playlist has a really small population at any given time, and they're further split by the skill-based matchmaking.
start temp banning those players and watch what happens in a p2p environment. there is really very little they can do.
>>169964769
I don't see what the issue is, that looked fun as fuck
>>169964782
>>169963526
In my experience live players generally have better offense than the level 3 bots while the bots have better defense than the average player.
Practicing against level 3 bots is a good way to find out what attacks actually confirm into damage and which you're just getting lucky with against opponents making mistakes.
>>169964782
Here's an absolute shit ton of high level lawbringer stuff
http://aerthasveras.imgur.com/
>>169963734
Ok, and the product is in the hand of a totally inept company, so?
It's another totally wasted game. All they had to do to guarantee a massive success of this game is A. some basic anti-cheat, B. some dedicated servers (not even fully dedicated, just sufficient enough to handle initial sync), and C. some bug fixes from beta.
And they fucked up all 3.
>i cant even play single player because the servers are down
wow i love modern gaming
>>169944494
>high level zerk play
Funny joke.
>>169964949
I want that Zaku helmet. Is that a pre-order bonus?
>>169950065
Dodge slow attacks.
Cancel lights.
Acts as the first hit of any combo you do coming out of it. Cancels overhead heavy recovery.
Can kick from it.
Can side dash from it.
>>169964769
Now that's a clusterfuck if I ever saw one
Wouldn't even be mad if I died there
>>169965040
totally wasted. but this is worse because it's an actual skill-based mp game that isn't f2p dogshit, isn't a fps, and tried something new. and it has failed because of the things you've mentioned and other issues.
and that's going to make investment in AAA games slide one notch further towards only the safest bets in the most tried-and-true, accessible, formulaic pieces of shit
ubisoft has actually fucked the entire hobby with this one
>>169964861
kek, this one is good
>>169963838
From hidden stance your bleed combo is only 2 hits also.
>>169964846
>>169965231
Honestly the absurdity of it all and how we all just kinda showed up on the point within seconds one by one made is feel fuck as fuck yeah. I was retarded and just mashed GB tho lmao. Thats part of what I really like about 2v2, not that it is 4v4 or anything but that you can get a lot of 'lite' secnarios like this when 2v2s actually happen
>>169964861
Beautiful
>>169964949
Oh shit thank you
>>169965203
There are no armor pieces for pre order, You can get every part through normal means only.
>>169965321
If you find anything missing, post a picture of it on a base loadout with no edits besides the part and send me a ,essage on imgurr
>>169964949
I think I have everything so I can do this for Berserker, if anybody wants that.
WHY DO MY BLOCKS AGAINST PEACEKEEPERS DONT REGISTER? FUCK PEACEKEEPERS THOSE OVERPOWERED FUCKS.
PK NERF WHEN?
>>169965262
Well I'm glad you are on the same page as me.
I am seriously annoyed at how this game turned out. Less than 1% extra total spending and we could have had dedicated servers etc. Genuinely just makes me hate jews more because you trace is back and it ALWAYS comes back to a jew.
inb4 shills who will say servers would cost too much etc.
They could easily host 128 tick servers with a brief ad during loading time, in fact it would be a net profit for them every match.
Ubishit are so incompetent that they throw away free money.
Wow Vikings looks like your stronghold is getting pillaged soon.
>>169965596
>with a brief ad during load time
nah lad ill take my p2p.
r8 pls
>>169965659
>will take p2p over an ad that he would not even have to watch
Are you a retard?
You will purposefully choose a worse experience for your entire game?
>>169965787
i dont like ads mate
i also only play 1v1 and 2v2 mode where i dont experience many p2p issues
>>169965596
Fuck off. I'll take P2P networking over being forced to watch ads in a game I paid for any day of the week.
Go back to your masters at Google AdSense, slimy merchant.
>>169965751
everyone uses that/10
>>169965852
Was my old one better?
>>169963425
Ones that try to panic dodge when stuffed into a corner.
I wasn't going to let the unblock rip because if he parried it I'd have been gassed and thats how comebacks start. If he caught the heavy with a parry and got me for a bar and 3/4ths so be it.
>>169965915
I actually do like that one better, mostly because I've never seen it done like that before.
>>169965656
p-pls be gentle with my valk w-wife
Are the servers down again? I'm on the startup screen and it won't connect.
>>169965825
whether or not you like ads, any mention of this game currently is paired with the fact it is p2p
casual gamers understand what this means because of cod and unlike cod, they are not addicted to this new IP and won't pick it up
whether or not the p2p connection in this game affects your personal experience, rest assured it will as the playerbase continues to erode and nobody picks it up because for honor is known as the p2p mess that is best avoided.
i'd rather have an ad than play against the same five people who are in my region, playlist, mmr range, and with a suitable ping
and that's what you'll be doing in a month or two
>>169965829
>>169965825
Shills detected.
>forced to watch ads
Made it too obvious google shills.
>>169966057
i dont care if the game has a small playerbase dude, i play plenty of other games that barely get 1k concurrent players. ill deal with it.
>>169964334
https://clips dot twitch dot tv/SavoryShinyMangetoutNerfRedBlaster
this was the clip. yeah the guys the faggot but I dont have a clip of someone else doin it
My most experimental work of art yet. I think it's important to push the boundaries of what's accepted and see what we can get away with so society as a whole can benefit from the contrast of ideas...should I bother with a guide?
>>169965751
>>169966204
then dealing with the hypothetical ads should be a breeze
seriously though i'm done. it is a waste of time to argue with people on the ubisoft payroll. when this game has 1000 concurrent players, your position at the company will be long gone.
Anyone else experiencing opponents with terrible ping?
>>169966406
You better be using a black Raider for maximum salt collection fampai
>>169966367
Ohh, I thought you meant that YOU, as the berserker was out of stamina.
Yeah, that's viable. I mean, anyone half-decent will be trying their damndest to just not get GBed or parried when exhausted, so, it's not that common that you get to actually slam someone on the ground. It's just a light into top, or a heavy into top, basic stuff. I mean hell, you can catch people with the same stuff if they're not prepared for it and then watch them go full panic mode.
The 'best' way to actually get that attack in on people who are good enough to parry it consistently is to do a dodge light>top-heavy>feint the top heavy>side-light
>top-heavy>if really want to fuck with his head then feint again and GB, or let it go through and most people will be expecting the feint again and instead eat 75% of their health bar.
>>169966653
you rang?
>>169966406
>>169966653
I'm Smut-Viking and I want everyone to know I only play Valk these days. I'll add this guide to the imgur as well.
JUST LET ME PLAY
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
probably gets asked a lot but who's better to main between kensei and orochi? just as an all around decent character with a chance to beat any other class
>tfw really really good duel lost to connection error
Does anyone think they could make this an emblem.
I wanna WAAAAAAAAGGHHH it up
>>169967102
Both are alright and can hold their own but people will automatically think you're subhuman for using Orochi. Give both a shot though and use whichever.
>>169967152
forgot file
>>169967220
what's wrong with orochi? is he cheap?
What do your 3 slots look like for your highest level guy?
Mine feel kinda meh but im monkeying with it a bit.
>>169967285
He's powerful, fast and spammed by everyone.
>>169962814
>bots get in the way
>Use the "I got this" quickchat and the bots won't touch your target
Hardu.
>>169967220
Orochi mains are a certain kind of person.
>>169945726
>bothering to deploy war assets
>>169948985
Source you nigger
>>169959783
Nujabes is overrated, there are way better artists of that genre. Also he looks like a kid with his retarded facial hair.
Guys, is the patch out for consoles yet? I need that Beserker block fix to keep playing.
>>169963473
Was fighting an AI pk as the law, fucking thing just span through every attack and seemed to recover immediately even as the attack went through it's skull, the AI in this game can be better than actual players