After the recount Edition
>What's new?
Large UI overhaul imminent, Indev video sometime this week
>WoW Event; Play Warcraft hero with friends for free mounts
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20532383/
>Lucio and Valentine's day stuff has been released
https://youtu.be/MRlkCiPVmII
>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE
>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.
>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20564324
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581814
>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20564325
>Latest In Development Video
https://youtu.be/3KTsPR2oeSE
>Hero Rankings, various Statistics, Talent Calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator
>Current Tier List
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist
>Where do I find you Nova Skin memers?
"/join /vg/" in game chat
>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki
Previously: >>169190105
First for Lucio buff
>when you play brexit outpost and get double samuro and vikings on your team while they get kael
lost at draft
Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/
https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker
They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
WHERE
is
it
/hotsg/???
>>169434791
>Zeratul VPs lucio
>ETC, Varian, Anub'Arak and Malfurion walk up
>VP ends
>Anub'Arak cocoons Lucio so that he can't escape
>Not that he could anyway, because lucio has no escape
>After the disable is finished, it's Malfurion's turn
>Malfurion roots the cocoon just as Lucio comes out, rooting him. He then Twilight Dreams, silencing Lucio's lack of escape
>Then Varian charges lucio just as this silence/root finishes, stunning him. He then taunts lucio, because his lack of escape could get away.
>Finally, to deliver the killing stun, ETC powerslides on top of him, then mosh pits just as that disable ends.
>Just as the mosh pit ends, malfurion prepares to deliver the killing blow.
>Suddenly the camera pans to their team's core, as azmodan and an ultimate evolution azmodan tag-team it while tychus and leoric watch.
Lucio has no escape you shitters, he's too easy to kill.
Has anyone tested the meme team of Cho'Gall, Murky, Vikings, and Abathur? How'd it go?
What kind of skin would you most want for your favorite hero?
I'm honestly pretty happy with Anub's base, but him having some kind of zerg skin with more flirty voice lines with Zagara would make me happy.Also Diableah when?
>>169435015
But he can't escape! He just dies instantly every second he's alive and in the game, don't you understand!
You're bronze! BRONZE!!!
>>169435128
Why does baleog look like ben stiller with tits, and why does erik she got his/her face smashed in?And why is Olaf my new waifu?
I will start a Lili fanfiction Tumblr /hotsg/
xth for putting Lucios on suicide watch with Temporal Loop.
>>169435270
A Sonya skin that isn't ugly would be cool
>>169435338
Include lots of bestiality and anub or zag or aba parasiteplay
>>169435128
>Tfw you have all those heroes to 10. Feels good man
>>169435473
I want a spacelord Sonya good guy skin with some blue lightsaber swords or something. Would b coo.
>>169435473
What
Sonya has one of the best master skins and her other skins are nice too
>>169435473
The skin is not the problem, she is just fucking ugly
Do NOT bully Sonya!!!!
I'm interested in this game, downloading it at the moment while looking at tutorials and shit.
The tier list in the OP caught my eye though: how big is the gap between the "Not optimal" tier and the others?
Kinda disappointed to see Arthas there tbqh
>>169436241
I want Sonya to bully me.
>>169435270
>some kind of zerg skin
the dreamhopefully next indev video
>>169436346
Just uninstall right now, it's shit
>>169436346
It's not a very impactful difference. The stronger ones just tend to do better in most situations however they're beat by other heroes in niché or not so niché situations.
Arthas is good, only retards would think he's suboptimal.
>>169436346
In Quick Match? And on low level?
Irreleveant. Relax and enjoy
>>169436346
That list is mostly for Hero League, where the meta is a lot of mages and other tanks; Arthas is best against melee assassins, or ranged attackers like valla.
Consequently, quick match is currently filled with melee assassins.
>>169436750
WHEN is it, /hotsg/ said yesterday reee. I've been waiting all WEEK.
>>169437080
It's tuesday you batter beating butter bastard
>>169436803
But Anon... if you feel this way, why are you in this general?
>>169436914
That makes sense, so the higher rated Heroes are well rounded but others can still perform certain jobs better, thanks for the input.
>>169436938
Cool, will do.
I figured as much; the closest thing I have played to a MOBA is Overwatch, and at the low levels there isn't much a difference between character tiers either.
>>169437172
I can't wait that long
>>169436914
>Arthas is good
>>169437049
Great, I'll check him out then.
Still, I'll follow the OP's recommendation and try all the heroes I can during the free rotations before actually buying one.
>>169437448
He's fine.
He only needs minor buffs but he has his role and he's good at it.Even if I wish he had a different kit.
>>169437448
>gets picked in pro games
>wins
>gets picked in gm hl
>wins
>bad
>na meta
>na understanding of the game
>na guldan and arthas are bad
>the difference between a good specialist and shit ones
>>169437203
> the closest thing I have played to a MOBA is Overwatch
You're starting with the right game then
-You've got a lot to learn, but two general tips that help a lot: When you auto-hit, there's a small frame where you need to charge your next autohit; use that downtime to move instead of just standing or following automatically (stutter-stepping)
-You can use your body to block the enemies path, its especially effective in this game compare to something like League of Legends (bodyblocking)
uther's rework is coming out next hero release
lucio+uther is going to be the new meta and it will be really really horrible to play against
>>169437646
>Quick Match Platinum 41423 (MMR: 2018)
>>169437561
What kind of kit would you want him to have?
>>169437448
Honestly I think Arthas should get re-made. His model isn't bad, but he kinda looks like a doofus.
There's nothing really frightening about his kit either, he's mostly just a sliding ice-block. He doesn't really live up to the legend
>>169437929
>waiting 5 extra minutes to play because ???
>>169437448
I want Leoric and Arthas to go on a journey of self discovery and crippling depression together
If Kel'Thuzad would somehow find his way in the game, what would be his second skin?
Necromancer or Archmage?
>>169438057
His kit is fine and cute and fun but his model and all his skins are atrocious.
>>169438057
That seems fitting to me, since I always thought his presentation in Wrath was kind of underwhelming.
>Bronzies are still saying Murky is S+ tier
>Bronzies still think March is the better heroic
>>169438185
If Kel'Thuzad gets into the game, I want him and Xul to become chums.
>>169437782
That sounds useful.
Thanks for the advice m8
Reminder that as soon as we leave the stunlock meta we will enter Lucio cancermeta.
What is the most fun class and why is it tanks?
>lead your team
>engage when the time is right
>your whole team is depending on you, following you around
>servicing out of position enemy heroes to your bros on a sliver platter
>cc out of the ass
>you can solo most squishies
>bodyblock for days
>peel for your team and save their asses
>tank mage skillshots all day every day
>>169439258
>servicing out of position enemy heroes
You slut.
Kazeindel here guys, I'll be holding a battle.net cash card raffle tomorrow. Probably around 10-12 central, somewhere in there.. If I don't forget. Who wouldn't want free Blizzard Shekels?
>>169440298
literally who
>>169440495
^this
>>169440248
D-don't tell everyone, anon~
>>169440495
I don't post in the threads too often, but every so often I hold raffles and give away blizzard balance cards. I'm the Abathur autist of VG pretty much.
Reminder that:
3x sustained + healer + bruiser
...is substantially better than:
3x sustained + healer + tank
>>169442279
depends
>>169442279
Roles matter less than which hero it is.
People outside of gold know this
>>169442386
Almost always the case but yeah of course it "depends" because theres that 3% of scenarios where its not the case
>>169442548
It literally always depends on map and enemy comp. That's all drafting is.
>>169442548
yeah ok
*picks illidan, butcher and greymane and dives ur helpless backline*
>>169443135
*sanctis u*
*holy grounds u*
*imposing wills u*
What the fuck do you do as Tyrael in fights besides ult your teammates to save their asses?
Man, Anub just needs to not run out of mana instantly.
My fucking team kept starting fights before even activating the Shrine, we would all run out of mana and then we'd try to do shrine. Impossible.
>>169443283
is tyrael a tank or a bruiser
an intruguing question philosophers have pondered about for years
in the end the answer is he's nothing without sanctification or holy ground so you'll lose before 10
unless it's some map where the gates are close enough to prevent mass diving like that
>>169443741
You dish out dmg, slow the enemies down and grant your allies shields and movement speed. You're also supposed to jump on out of position enemies and bodyblock them to death which is easy thanks to your e.
Also offensive sancts beat defensive ones.
>>169443945
He's both and you're bronze.
He has very strong dmg for a tank, 2 slows and movement speed for his allies. Also literally the most mobile tank in the game so you shouldn't ever die except when you suicide to get your trait off. Early game your trait is supposed to make you trade evenly and late game you're a monster with more slows than anyone could ever ask for.
>>169444494
yeah good luck saving your teammates from super duper dive mania with your pussy ass 150 health shields and 5% slows
your only hope is for that 1 healer to be malfurion and he lands some DOG roots
>>169444954
>5% slows
Try 50. Tyrael is literally one top 3 strongest tanks right now and if you don't see that then you're a literal bronzie with no understanding of the game nor it's heroes. Shit gets me mad, dumb fucks who honestly believe Tyrael is bad when he's insanely strong.
>>169445680
i bet you're plat
anyways heroes aren't always good nor always bad
tyrael isn't a good choice for covering a weakish backline by himself compared to ETC or something and you know it
Is Tyrael unstoppable while warping to his sword like Sylvanas travelling to her wave?
Anyone ever take possession on Sylvanas?
>>169446057
Tyrael has no animation while teleporting like Sylvannas does, so there is no "during".
>>169440298
Marry me queen of the slugs
>>169446921
GO BACK to your memes Gucci.
>>169440767
>the
Memes tonight bae about 2 hours
>>169447379
You're not allowed to meme. Be there for the raffle tomorrow though for a chance at shekels you slut.
Will there ever be a good skin for Stitches or ETC? Both of them don't change the look at ALL, just glue more shit to them.
If they can make BW a monkey, Anubarak a mecha, they can make a decent skin for these bitches.
>>169447643
I fucking hate the monkey skin for BW. And she's at 20 for me. Honestly her master skin and final coloring for it is the best.
>widowmaker skin for Nova
How the fuck can they be so retarded? Widow is completely different from nova besides being a sniper, and they WILL have to add her to HoTS at some point, so that skin makes no fucking sense.
>>169446967
The fact they used "VG" and think they're the only autist shows it's either bait or new.
>>169448219
Your waifu won't be in the game ever. Time to uninstall friend.
>>169447990
monkey bw is seriously one of the worst skins in the game
>>169447990
>>169448442
What's wrong with ya'll?
I admittedly got Monarch BW, but I like skins that replace the character entirely.
>>169448507
I don't mind skins that replace the character, but Monkey BW has both an obnoxious sound and looks fucking stupid and unsettling.
>ban murky and varian
>game is fun as fuck again
Gorefiend when?
>>169449973
>ban murky
Hello bronzie
>no stuff dinosaur dehaka skin
>no pajama li li skin
>no firelord Jaina
>no waterlord Ragnaros
>no spacelord Sonya
>no football tychus
>no marine Stitches
>no ninja tracer
>no d3 diablo
>no janitor leoric
>no lich kael'thas to piss off kelthuzad fans
Why live?
>>169451804
>not banning murky
you are the real bronze
>>169451804
>>169452516
everyone calling each other bronze
>>169450590
NO It's going to be aGuldanskin
>>169452781
>calling people bronze
Hello paper
>>169452516
It might be true, murky is 2nd most banned character in every bracket except bronze, he is like 10th. Rag is the first most banned
>>169452890
>calling someone paper
Hello
>>169452495
Isn't there already a marine Stitches? Or do you mean a better one?
>>169453374
Never made it out of alpha.
>>169448219
>and they WILL have to add her to HoTS at some point
That's not even remotely true.
Blizzard can only manage roughly 15-16 characters a year and there is absolutely not a fucking chance that this game will have a lifespan of longer than 5 years. There's a very good chance Widow will never make it into the game.
>>169453680
>>169448219
How would they even balance her ult? Long duration Maphacks on demand is not something that fits into MOBA's
>valeera is ba-
>>169454067
>>169453869
2 minute CD, 6 second duration.
Make the upgrade 8 second duration, and kills while it's active lowering the CD by 10 seconds.
Then give her a second ulti called Widow's Kiss or some bullshit like that, that's just a heavy damage snipe, that also does a fuckload of damage over time.
>>169453680
>and there is absolutely not a fucking chance that this game will have a lifespan of longer than 5 years
Warcraft 3 got new content around new years
>Murky takes march.
>Take a stack to trigger chink furry magic hustle.
>Li Li's moans through the facefucking.
One piece swimsuit fucking when?
>>169435128
no but we did this meme-team. clearly we should have replaced hammer with a nova.
>>169455821
Really? What was it?
>>169457248
They increased the maximum size of custom maps from 8mb to Infinity which is better than actual official content
>>169454067
Only literal retards who can't play her think she is bad
I need to play 15 games for some shitty mount
Please play with me someone
>>169458920
drop your btag and i'll do it with you
>>169459195
Radagast#1633
>>169459325
sent :-)
>>169459631
thanks dude, god bless
name a skin you want for your main that isn't in the gamehard mode: no cross-franchise skins
>>169460440
My main is probably Chen, so I don't really need a skin because his Master is actually cool.
But for my second fave, I would love a skin for Anubarak that makes him more explicitly egyptian, with gold and mummy wraps.
What's the verdict for Valeera?
>>169460440
>having a main
How important is the meta in this game? Does "troll picking" exist?
>>169460765
For ranked mode, meta is pretty important and there are heroes you can pick that usually piss your entire team off.
What's an exciting pro match from a recent patch? Feel like watching some tryhards
>>169460563
you can have a main and still be flexible, if you're that anal retentive about the concept of a main then pick one for every role you pick for then
>>169460563
take your pick
>>169454067
>>169454448
>>169461008
>there are heroes you can pick that usually piss your entire team off.
Like?
>>169460440
a medivh skin that makes him a starcraft Sentry :^)
hard mode answer: put the fucking green base skin color on the master skin
>>169454067
>level 20 vs lvl 19
>>169454448
>cant seal the deal
>>169461008
So what does the meta consist of? Tank, melee assasin, two ranged dps, and a support?
>>169461701
>sentry
>Medivh skin
>not Tassadar skin
How dead is this game if there's only two people in the /vg/ chat, and ranked queues take 5 minutes at least?
The hero roster is actually full, The next hero will change that. I can't wait forWinston
>>169462230
>vg chat
I don't like talking to retarded 9gag rejects
>>169462391
please talk to me.
>>169461258
l5 mvp black
>>169462035
>he would of lived with 4% more health
>>169462391
I understand, but usually alive games have some sort of /vg/ community. Just my impressions.
>>169462127
it really should replace tassadar in the game, and then they should reintroduce tassadar as a zoner / control mage.
>>169437448
>>169438057
>>169438278
IMO, my impression of his HotS model has always been that he's a manlet.Or more like a lich-let now I guess.
>>169438278
I really like his Crimson Count and Mystic Kingdom skin, but they put his base model to shame.
>>169435338
>>169456418
>>169456830
>>169457108
with panda watch out for propaganda
This game is such cancer.
>>169465642
have a (You)
>>169466039
Didn't need one.
>>169466053
Not right now, but you never know when you will!
Why does Kerrigan suck? Why does Greymane suck?
I have lots of fun playing them too unfortunately
Been absolutely wrecking as Zeebo
He's insanely good. Why were people crying after his rework again?
>>169466325
because people didn't want to get used to having to aim their spiders
>>169466195
They're both great heroes. Definitely high tier at minimum.
WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE STILL PICK WALL ON TASSADAR
SPEND 20 MINUTES TELLING THE FUCKER TO JUST TAKE ARCHON AND WE CAN WIN THIS STALEMATE
AND THEY TAKE WALL AND WE LOSE EVERY TEAMFIGHT
MEANWHILE THE FUCKER IS JUST TRYING TO AA THE ENEMY HEROES EVERY FIGHT WITH NO SHIELDS FOR TEAMMATES
FUCK THIS GAME
>>169466526
the worst is a solo support Tassadar in QM
Just make him a specialist already
>>169466195
kerrigan is top tier on shrines
greymane is good again with bullet
I'm thinking about getting auriel... i have a huge boner for ressurections but man.. her healing ability is soooo unsatisfying to use..
>>169466135
Can I have one more just in case then?
>>169467034
resurrection is the shittier ult
>>169467071
I only pick ress because krisalis si incredibly boring to use and it's just a rip off the divine hand anyway
Is the diablo crusader dyke fun to play?
>>169467065
Here you go, pal. Don't spend them all at once place, okay?
*hands you a freshly picked (you)*
Take care now, y'hear?
*waves goodbye lovingly*
>>169467143
no
>>169467143
she's a great hero for learning how to play Warriors
>>169467379
>cropped porn
>always a disappointment
>no exceptions
why not crop something decent for once goddamnit
>>169467143
no, she's braindead easy
fun warriors:
diablo
stitches
leoric the dick
rexxar
>>169467714
>porn drawn by non-japs
>ever not a disappointment
>>169467714
most r34 is shit and there's barely any for heroes of the storm and it's all shit
>>169466915
>greymane is good again with bullet
funny since most of the time people still take the other heroic
>tfw this could have been the leaguebaby killer and the best moba, but shitzzard had to fuck it up and make it trash
Still hurts. Models in this game and the heroes overall are so good, except for overtrash heroes of course.
>>169468132
Not true, i fapped to some good nova/kerrigan stuff
Lucio is hilariously fun, just spend al day switching songs, going fast and plinking people into fits of rage with your no damage gun
>tfw you break it down
Did valla's E used to have two charges at one point, or a cooldown reset?
>>169467809
shouldn't Dehaka be fun?
I can't find a game
>>169468567
>actually enjoying last hitting
>>169469485
I remember there was a vault has two charges talent as well as a vault reset hungering arrow to that was extremely painful eating three hunger arrows while running her down
I think it was in row seven where Death Dealer now sits
>>169470045
>actually enjoying being a subhuman
>>169470143
Yeah, they sadly nerfed it, because I abused it and made it popular in beta.
>>169470307
>because I alone am intelligent enough to discover talents that effect the same ability typically have the best synergy
>>169470237
Autism is a typical symptom of sub-humanity, though,
>>169470531
Because everyone used the W build, and I didn't, then I had the highest win rate on Valla, and semi pros started wondering why I'm demolishing them, and copied my build and playstyle.
>there are meme loving fucks that still think it is funny to horde coins on black hearts bay
Is there any way to remove maps from the queue? Literally nobody knows how to play mines.
>>169470901
just pick up 4 their slack bro
>>169471034
There aren't even 4 people in this thread right now that play the game.
why the fuck didn't they give an orange tint to arthas so you can be the other lich king
>>169471553
What do you mean? You can be two lich kings?
>>169471694
the current lich king is orange, if they gave arthas an orange tint we could be playing as him
>>169471126
I know how!
For fuck sake is there a STOP/HOLD button somewhere so I can stop my skill animation like in any other normal game?
For example I am playing Muradin and I want to hit someone with the stun and he keeps strafing. I press the button to use the stun, the idiot moves again so I just want to cancel but nope, can't do shit.
>>169471754
Isn't he just frozen at the frozen throne?
>>169471858
Be patient and aim better. There's commands to stop moving, but being able to cancel the cast time of any skill you start casting would break the game for a few heroes.
>>169471858
>play ragnaros
>his W is actually wonky as fuck
>want to just shoot it forward into the enemy, but the game wants it to just go backwards and do nothing
>wish i could cancel it when the game wants to fuck it up, but can't
Are there any heroes that can afk bot games besides slug and kinky?
I was thinking of some absurd scheme involving bw or lucio and luring a lane minion or a monster camp, but I think the lane minions get leashed super easily and mercs hit too hard.
Can you play free heroes in rotation in ranked/unranked as long as they are lvl 5?
>>169473018
Yes
>>169470652
It's no unsual to end up with 30 coins in other person if the other team aren't retards and guard the turn in
Dark elves are for ___.
>>169473416
oh heavens no I mean intentionally farm coins from camps, mercs, and chest to delibraterly not hand them in.
>>169473474
falling before sunfang
>>169466325
Aiming spiders is hard. Also, any skill you don't build for it now 66% more useless.
Frogs in particular have been gutted.
>>169473474
>Sex goddess Tyrande has a Jersey Shore tint
>>169473474
why wasn't this out when tyrande was in literally every game?
wtf i hate blizzard now
>>169473504
Coin denial bruh
>>169472506
pls, i wanna know, help me geniuses
Hey there, let me just add 8 bots to your game.
Btw, you can't join another game until this one finishes.
You are welcome.
>>169474853
>caring about brawl
>Stopped playing 10 months ago ,decide to try it again.
>Don't wanna buy the meta heroes everyone is using like Ragnaros,Varian,Valeera
>Buy Zul'jin because I like troll berserker concept
>Realize regeneration is kinda worthless unless you put 2 talents into it and sacrifice your dps.
>Ulti is nice but I die 85% after it ends unless we completely every one
>Decent hero but kinda worthless without a healer babysitting him overall
>Try Chromie
>Basically a long range skill shot artillery but useless in practice. Anytime some assassin/tank decides to put his asscheeks between your gnomish head you are fucked.
>Most of her late-game talents are lackluster.
Maybe I'll try Samuro next since I haven't seen him once for my last 20 games.
>>169473504
A cannonbal costs around $5 a piece. A decent gold coin is worth about $1000
Only an idiot would buy 10 canon balls for 10 gold coins
>>169476728
I am top damage and top kills with the goddess of chrome in every game
You are just shit and should kill you are selves
>>169477051
>It's hard to hit bronzies with tunnel vision.
>>169477245
It's not hard at all, learn to play scrub
>someone fucks up and loses up the fight
>tell them
>xd i trol now happy 2 lose xdd
>>169476728
Samuro is going to feel extremely underwhelming, he's in a really bad spot right now. Worse than Zul'jin.
https://youtu.be/kWbmVleUGWo
>>169477845
Me when the acid hits.
>>169476728
>regeneration
>worthless
It's an amazing sustain ability for in-lane and you get the first talent for it really early on.
>>169477845
shitty forced meme but that was funny
>>169477546
You are not particulary good at detecting sarcasm.
>most siege damge
>most hero damage
>most exp contribution
>still lose
Great game.
>>169477672
>baby mode 5th highest winrate
>bad in whatever bronze hell you people are inhabiting
he literally presses q and does more than half the roster inbronze
>>169478980
>still don't even get MVP cause some guy just landed a few more killing blows
Post Pandas
>>169479236
Can you get mvp if you lose?
>>169479236
Killing blows and assists have the same rating.
If you have a Nova with 20 kills, and a Malf just in the vicinity with 20 assists each, they both get +20 for MVP rating.
The only way you don't get MVP if you're sticking with your team is by dying a lot. Alternatively, only ever splitpushing like some fucking idiot.
In short, you either never were in teamfights, or you fucking suck and die a lot. Get good scrub.>caring about MVP in the first place
>>169474995
I have already played the main game to the death and I really like of this brawl.
>>169479375
Yep.
was mordky nerfed? he used to be in every qm on both teams
>>169479265
Is murky still a useless piece of trash cunt faggot?
>>169445975
Still not plat and that's such a shit argument. Of course no hero is good in all situations, that doesn't change that Tyrael is among the best tanks there are right now.
>>169480976
Can solo diablo at 20.
will auriel be free next week? i wanna try the slut before i buy
>>169481439
Too bad being master at a shit game that doesn't take skill doesn't mean anything.
>>169482092
What's your mmr?
>>169482092
it means his opinion is more valid than yours cunt
>>169482168
I don't play garbage games.
>>169482173
It means nothing.
>>169482198
>lala i can't hear you
your parents fucked up real hard boy
>>169482250
I'm sorry for your mental issues.
>>169481824
He can solo any hero at lvl 20, i had no problem taking down full health butchers and etcs
>>169482292
>>169482443
Stayt mad.
>did placements
>placed into diamond 3
Why?
Alarrak nerf when?
The waiting is killing me. I want leaks of next hero, we didn't get anything not-shit since Alarak. I want Stukov already!
>>169484132
>another shitty SC literal who
No thanks
Alright you steaming piles of memes, the raffle starts in an hour.
>>169484225
go back to one of the million wow generals
>>169484310
give me money I'm poor
does it work on EU?
>>169484396
Not sure, since it's bought in the US. Doesn't hurt to try though.
>>169484396
No, if you have an EU bnet account it wont work.
How the fuck do I ban cancerous nigger mines from my map pool? Literally nobody knows how to play it.
Raffle in thirty minutes.
Why does Li-Ming take so little skill to play?
>>169484310
>>169485468
filter this namefag
>>169454067
>not taking improved E
>taking unsafe route
>being alone
>casting an useless Q instead of gusting
GG BRONZE
Is it normal to lose more points than you win in ranked? Is it calculated based on your performance?
weeeeeee
i'm donating 2 prizes to the raffle kaz is doing. nothing special just a couple of free hero cards i had laying around.
so the winner of the 20 shekels also gets codes for lili and jaina. amazing i know
>>169487109
>own every hero
>already spent more money than I should have in Heartstone
I wish I could get excited about community things, tis the woes of being a Richfag.
>>169487224
Donate a $20 card and feel good about yourself.
>>169481439
did you miss the fact that the discussion was about that specific situation where tyrael isn't good?
>>169487269
The discussion was about Tyrael being useful for anything but sanct and then shifted to Tyrael being good or not.
>>169487265
i like this idea desu senpai
How do I play skellyman? Everytime I try to engage with tomb the enemy team melts me before my teammates can even react.
use entomb on a retreating team, not to engage
Alright time for the raffle.
Rules: Link to this post, and have your battletag in your post so I know who to add in game and whisper the code, and for THEDONALD to whisper.
THEDONALD feel free to do a separate roll for the winner if you want.
I'll be rolling a random nuymber generator. The winner is who's last three digits are the closest. Good luck
>>169487496
no, it was about picking a bruiser as a solo tank rather than a "proper" tank
>>169487697
anybodykilla WEW LETS DO THIS LAD
>>169487697
Intigracy#1281
I already have both of Donnie's codes so you can just give them out to whoever if I win pal
>>169487697
Grimmjow#2226 EU
if I win and it doesn't work on my region give it to someone else
>>169487631
maybe in ye olde times. tomb is useless now when 90% heroes can just teleport or jump out
>>169487705
First posts in the discussion:
>>169443741
>>169443945
i'm just gonna give the codes to your winner
>>169487905
you might notice one of those posts is replying to another
>>169487697
Eh, why not.
Mike#2739
>>169487697
bobtehnoob#1354
>>169443283
That's the reply to a shitpost. At this point it was arguing about Tyrael and no longer about tanks or bruisers apart from one post asking if he's one or the other and another saying he's both.
my mistake, anybodykilla#1106
>>169488138
It's alright, I know where you are. You're literally ont he top of the in game list so its not hard to find you.
Raffle with last about 15 or so minutes since people will trickle in
>>169488124
those first few posts don't disappear just because tyrael came into focus
>>169487697
ForeverWeon#1104
p-pls give me something
>>169487697
Victacobell#21364
>>169487554
1. Never engage with entomb. Entomb is a seperation/disable meant to block the path of heroes who have no ability that allows them to get out, and as a tool to say 'Kill this one' or 'Kill these two'. If an enemy team member is a bit too far out of position, exploit their mistake with Entomb, but ONLY if at least 1 teammate is nearby.
2. Your order should be Q, W. W should be used primarily to keep you alive, not for the damage; unless some other target is very low, primary target should be anyone with a high HP pool.
3. March of the Black King used to be a good ultimate, but they reduced the hitbox on it so that it's difficult to land more than one or two hits; try to use it when you are retreating, but have a decent health pool; they will not expect you to turn them around and start bashing their faces in.
4. Leoric's basic attacks HURT. Learn to weave basic attacks in between abilities, and learn to stutter step so you can get in his surprisingly high attack damage.
5. Your E should be never be used to chase, unless the target is on comically low health. Even then, it's dangerous to use your only mobility tool to chase after one hero, as two more may be nearby trying to save him.
6. Try not to die. Though Leoric has a lot of tools that allow for him to get back from the grave quickly, you are not Murky; you give the enemy full EXP whenever you die, so you should be careful.
7. With that being said, Leoric is a tank that needs to get into the thick of it to be effective; choose talents that allow you to heal, like Ossein Renewal or his Q improvement talent that heals 2% per target hit. If you do end up dying, these talents will pay dividends.
>>169488473
Thanks m8, I played him like a retard basically.
Both ults are viable picks though right? I like the march better but most seem to expect me to take entomb
>>169487265
>>169487498
>giving money to poorfags
But how will they learn?
>>169487697
zin#2950
>>169488234
Roll
>>169487697
orion#11765
>>169489232
Close enough
Raffle closes in eight minutes
>>169487697
Denon#2864 - EU
Raffle is closing, Ill be posting the winner shortly
how the fuck am I supposed to ever rank up if I always get matched with retards, solo pushers and people who don't know how to group up?
>>169488419
We have a winner folks.
Ill be adding you and whispering the code.
>>169490034
you have to grind through games all day and solely play HL
>>169490140
W-wew.
How close was the roll?
>>169490260
Roll was off by 40.
>>169488419
Are you EU or NA? You need to accept the request for me to to give it to you.
>>169490228
But I just keep dropping lower and lower, I lose like 210 points each game. And the people keep getting worse and worse.
victacobell was nice enough to have the codes posted here so whoever wants me go nuts.
lili - 8586-895813-69324-991710-3090
jaina - 5965-296480-96801-777558-1865
>>169490618
nobody wants those sluts
used goods
those are the most expensive tho, everyone wants them
>>169490618
I claimed the tight virgin jaina pussy
thanks
>>169461468
Gazlowe and Nova. Usually Abathur.
>>169462075
More or less. An even mix of ranged-melee, a support is a must. Two warriors is common, so don't freak out if someone picks Artanis and Varian for example.
Thanks to those who showed up for the raffle, good luck on the next one.
>>169490857
As much as I love Abby, I generally ask people if they're okay with me playing him when it's a good map for him/the comp looks fine for it. Usually don't get much fuss when they see his level.
vikings
>>169487697
SW20#2173
eu
>>169491157
It's closed senpai, you missed it.
>>169491326
that guy must feel stupid now
>>169491157
>>169491326
>>169491585
this is hero league, you would think people would respond to a sylv push but noooo
at least I can get the mount when I do team league
>>169490516
pick s tier damage heroes if you're in mmr you dont belong
if you still drop you just gotta git gud
>>169484225
WoW hardcore fan detected
>76 unique posters
>Only play with 8 other memers
Where the fuck are these trash players and when can I queue and lose with em?
Well this game cannot get more unbalanced than it is now
>>169488672
Sorry for slow response.
Yes, both are viable ults; However, both are situational, which makes your judgement call more important.
March is for if your team does relatively low burst, or if it will be difficult for them to capitalise; Entomb is for if your team does actually have followup - preferably ranged followup, because you will most likely be walking into the tomb that you just set up yourself.
>>169493340
It's been worse. Believe it or not, it's more balanced now than it's ever been.
>QM
doesn't matter at all
>enemy team has chogall
I love these auto losses because nobody knows how to play against chogall
>>169491870
>0-1-3
>wahhh i lost!
Only constant is you
>>169494413
>lowest winrate hero in the game
it's you
>>169466325
i remember when you could win games by casting spirit. felt good.
>>169493340
I take it you didn't play it when Kael'Thas was undisputed the best hero in the game, then?
>>169494661
Yeah I guess I should only play Tychus from now on so I can hard counter chogall every game
>>169494389
Nothing really matters
>braindead trash mongoloid idiot team doesn't respond to pings
>gives the enemy 3 bosses in a row because they simply can't fucking respond and move
>lose a free win
>demoted to d4
just git gudand caryr right xddD
>>169494967
Cho'gall doesn't even need a %hp hero to beat, just fucking kill him and the match instantly becomes 5v3.
>>169491870
>naz
>3 deaths
>not spider build
LoLbaby here, having fun with the game but really want a decent tank, tried Anubarak but he seemed very fragile (i played Maokai in LoL) can anyone recommend me a solid tank or is Anubarak as good as it gets?
Why the fuck do tournament players keep banning Zarya? Is she better than ETC?
>>169496429
If you want a tank you could grab Diablo for his anubarak spell armor at level 7, but immense 40% health buff and sick ultimates
I don't like tanks a whole lot, but I run a very high survivability build on tyrael
>>169496429
Johanna is the quintessential tank. Un-fucking-killable,deals no damage and every ability she has is CC
Varian with tank build/ult is pretty fun too and really strong right now
Muradin and Diablo are the good old tanks that have always worked
ETC is a "squishier" tank but makes up for it with mobility and playmaking
>>169496429
anub'arak is only good against mages
the beefy tanks are muradin, johanna, ETC, diablo and somebody else
>>169496519
>infinite shields for everyone
gee i wonder why
>>169496429
>Johanna
>ETC
>Diablo
Here you can see what the "best" builts are (with the highest winrate), but its recommended that actually read the talents and think why exactly people pick this stuff:
https://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/HeroAndMapStatistics
You can also filter for Master, Diamond and Plat and see what those players pick.
Anub is actually a really good champ, but also needs to be followed up. Not that easy in Quick meme.
>>169496674
>"infinite" shields (with that 10 sec cd)
>vs taking out 3-4 players
Hmmm
>load into game
>instantly in chat
>"lol we lose"
>varian feeds
nice game
>>169496519
She's incredibly strong in a double tank setup. She essentially acts as half tank, half support, and half assassin. She enables hypercarries by supporting them and gets a fuckton of damage from doing it.
>>169497253
Boggles my mind how it's impossible to play this game solo, and how stupid people are, considering how braindead and easy it is.
>>169497342
Do you watch a lot of tournament stream or do you just read guides?
>>169488384
Play bird lad REEEE
>>169498916
Gucci you missed the raffle you shit
>>169494413
How do you play against him tho? In Qm you cant pick tychus against him or any %hp damage, if you dont have that youre fucked
>>169498830
I watch a lot of streams and play at master level HL. I never read guides.
>>169498916
BUFFS WHEN
Why are Illidan players like this?
>>169501652
Kill yourself faggot bitch.
>>169501652
You don't understand his basement dweller hatred of 2 years. Unemployment will do things to a man.
http://i.imgur.com/OrfRAte.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0rROTP8.jpg
>>169502857
>>169502857
>>169502857
>send as gift
MIEN
DIEK
>>169502857
might be fake desu
>>169502857
PLS BE REAL FUCK
>>169460440
>having mains
i'm shit as medivh, but he needs his disco skin from hearthstone and i will practice till i'm worthy
>4chan is now getting ebin trolled by reddit
amazing
i feel like the reminder anon is the only sane one here apart from me
>>169479265
>>169503952
good for you
>want to play HOTS, haven't for months
>update and all that
>start it up
>"aww shiet nigga lucio comin at yall bich, ya digg hoe??"
>uninstall immediately
>go back to playing LoL
>>169502857
>still not on plebbit
>>169505348
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/5wbsbt/the_new_loot_tab_leaked_new_images/
>>169504849
>he doesn't enjoy the most overpowered support in the game beside malfurion
l o l
>>169504849
>LE MAGA FACE WHITE SUPREME PIZZA :)))))) I TRIGGERED BY THINGS I DONT LIKE IN VIDEO GAME FUGGIN SJWS LOL
>>169507454
youd like to suck on that brazilian monkey dick wouldnt you
>lucio doesn't have a white skin recolor
>medivh has a black skin recolor
hmmmm
>>169507635
>>169507617
>>169434426
Artanis Tier-S now?
What did I miss /hotsg/?
>>169508658
Basically he can swap while using dash now, which gives him a lot of utility that he didn't have before in addition to being the same unkillable Artanis from before.
>>169508206
Literally a redditor.
>>169508658
They turned him into a better AA + Leap Sonya.
>>169508658
Phase Prism (E)
Added functionality: You can now cast Phase Prism during Blade Dash
>>169508658
His swap is now better than Stitches hook while also being better than Stitches in everything he can do
Stitches rework when?
>>169509001
When the roadhog skin comes out
>>169501920
>FEEL THE HATRED OF 2 YEARS OF UNEMPLOYMENT
>>169509134
I guess they could add Roadhog and take Sitches' hook away and give him some other ability. Would let them add another shitty OW character without overlapping with an existing character
How do you know when you lost the game in picking phase
>teammate picks abby
>teammate first picks tychus
>teammates pick abby murky
>"jajajajaja"
>>169509134
I'd rather have Roadhog with a short CD short range hook thats more of a sustained annoyance than a death sentence
I'd also rather not see any time wasted on the implementation of Roadhog into the game
there hasn't been a single good new hero since Chen and all the reworks have been garbage
where can i buy cheap heroes? do sites sale hero keys?
>>169511023
murky
>>169511023
>since Chen
Tychus was the start of decline. He was first absolutely shit hero and everyone after him was either equally bad or even worse.
>>169511339
no, the rework is absolutely terrible, murky used to be a high risk high reward hero, they turned him into some meme overpowered ambassador of anal dilatation with a single viable build, he's only second to Rexxar when it comes to the most fucked up reworks for low brainpower assholes.
>>169476728
>stopped playing in beta
>start playing again
>buy Zul'jin
>have a lot of fun while blowing up other people
You just have to play more defensively until 20 then you DINGO and get health back while nuking cunts
Are the esports games on "OP" Murky patch yet? Have they used Murky?
Why should i ever pick jaina over chromie? She just seems like short range low damage chromie
>>169512253
On demand slows for executioner comps
Chromie is easier to kill
>>169512253
she's actually useful even if you don't have a team doing the heavy lifting
>>169512253
Much easier to land your spells, can actually 1v1 some heroes, slows anything she hits, vulnerability from cone and landing the ulti on multiple enemies is really strong, especially if you cone them
>>169512253
Jaina can actually damage towers and camps. Solo them too.
>>169512253
A mix of burst and sustained damage with very effective talent choices that lets her spec into either extremely well. An innate slow and effective crowd control.
Her damage is not incredibly intermittent and all of her some spells deal damage that can damage multiple targets, unlike Chromie who will be lucky to tag more than 1 or 2
>>169513787
Remove the word 'some' that I accidentally tossed in there
>>169467143
yes but not in comparison to other warriors
>>169470143
Hungering Arrow Reset came at 7, double vault came at 16
>>169512253
Jaina has talents that allow her to not only have a certain build, but to counter what hurts her most at times.
More reach for better poke, shields against divers or even just solo camp clearing and so on.
Jaina has terrific burst AND a good amount of utility in a package, but has to expose herself more to use it. She can, however, actually duel people even if they're right in her face if her all her CDs and health align. Can't do shit against Illidan in your face as Chromie, in comparison.
>>169509001
his trait makes him kinda useless.
They need to steal something from Deity Of The Moba2 to make him better.
>>169515279
Pudge is also just a bad Vengeful Spirit in Dota 2 so they're already clearly stealing shit from Valve already.
>>169515898
Every ability in dota was stolen from Warcraft 3
>>169515981
I don't remember a hook ability in Warcraft 3
>An enemy displacement is better when it also puts you into the enemy team
:thinking:
>>169516201
there wasnt, a majority of the warcraft 3 dota abilities were custom and did not exist inside the base game. The guy is just a dumbass
>>169516608
We can revisit this discussion when hook isn't blocked by minions and the enemy team can blow up Artanis when he lands a prism.
>>169516681
DOTA IS A SCAM
DO NOT BELIEVE THE ALL STARS LIES
WC3 IS 'THE' ORIGINAL
DOTA STOLE EVERYTHING
IT DID NOTHING ORIGINAL
IT WAS ALL SUPPOSED TO BE BLIZZARDS MONEY
Gonna try nazzebo, which is the superior build the spiderman build or the pepe build?
Is poison spear worth using at all after the buff? Seems like ferocious healing would be better in almost every situation
>>169518179
either spiders or mixed. frog build is pretty bad
>>169518179
Never frogs.
>>169518308
It's cool for poking, which is what you often need to do in uncoordinated environments.
I never really liked healing though, so take it however you want.
>>169518179
spiders are the pleb build
thing of the deep uprooted zombies is the thinking man's build.
>>169515981
Somalian semen infused cuckoldry blizzfanboyism.
>>169518940
FUCK YOU
DOTA IS SHIT AND A RIPOFF
>>169516879
>Blizzard gets asked if they want to make Dota 2 because it'd be cool if Blizzard spearheaded the upgrade from a WC3 custom map
>Blizzard tells Dota to fuck off
>Valve takes Dota into its arms
>Valve makes a billion of dollars from it
>Blizzard gets assblasted enough to make their own MOBA to try and cash in but only have a perpetually dead game
blizzard pls
>>169519171
IT'S NOT FAIR
IMAGINE HOW GREAT HOTS COULD BE IF WE HAD MORE PLAYERS
THINK OF ALL THE ECELEBS WE ARE MISSING OUT ON
>>169519079
Semen.
https://my.mixtape.moe/tzystg.7z
all fonts you can find within the hots files
pass:li li feet
>>169519679
ya, if only hots was good
>>169487697
>clever ploy to find all the battletags of poorfags
>>169521508
SHUT UP DOTARD
YOUR GAME SUCKS
IT'S SHIT FOR THE SAKE OF BEING HARDCORE
FUCK OFF YOU CUNT JUST KILL YOURSELF YOU DESPERATE FOR ATTENTION MORON
GO BACK TO YOUR OWN DEAD GENERAL
GOD I HATE YOU CUNTS
Havent played for some time.
Did they fix Artanis super swap?
>>169522942
Working as intended. What you should ask is: Did they fix stitches and Uther yet?
Are players with master skins held in higher regard? Like if there is a master sylv on the team the people go like "wow she must really know her shit"
>>169522942
Theres nothing to fix.
>>169523290
Occasionally at low mmr.
>>169522465
>hotstard calling any other game bad
>hotstard calling literally anything else dead
comrade no
>>169523290
In general I tend to trust people with master skins more than those without them if I don't know their name.
Especially true for unconventional picks.
>>169523290
Usually i just think "wow they wasted 10k gold on that shit skin?".
There is only a small handful of master skins that i personally think are an improvement over the base skin. Vast majority just look like shit cause of weird overly sized shoulders and ridiculous helmets added for no reason.
>>169523290
Nah, it's a "Wow they wasted all that time on a hero and still don't know how to play them properly".
Money doesn't fix shit skills.
>>169523147
I was talking about the bugged swap but just checked the changelog and saw that Blizzard fixed that bug with the January 12 hotfix.
I can wait NO longer
WHERE is it, FUCK
This is taking way too fucking long
>when wow friends hate game so much they offer gold to have their accounts played for the event
yikes
>>169523630
>>169523719
basically this for me
>>169523492
Comrade yes. We dont need your Dota filth here with your last hitting and boring heroes with even more boring names like "AXE". Who made this shit up, a 10 years old? All DotaFAGS GTFO!
>>169525332
>this is the game hots is losing to
hm
>boring heroes
are you actually enjoying seeing murky in every game or
>>169525332
Even more that they suddenly start producing heroes with names now that they stole all they could from WC3. "Crystal Maiden", "Invoker", fucking chinese rip-off tier.
>>169525785
Again the Dota is bigger argument. A game that is out sooner is more popular, Dont you fucking say so. Its so suprising im losing my mind. And even if murky is annoying now at least blizzard giving out patches frequently not like that garbage dota.
>>169526057
Dota came before LoL but LoL is more popular.
>>169526213
League was out before Dota 2 was out of beta.
>>169526213
You know why? Because at the time that was the "HOTS" of mobas. It was new, fresh, and easier for beginners because no day and night cycle and so on. And in the same way Hots will rise above them.
>>169526057
you know when people say other mobas are only bigger because they're older
then overwatch kind of comes out and becomes one of their biggest games
also; league came after dota and it's quite a bit more popular, although I don't know how they compare in terms of gameplay
>>169524595
We just got some orcs, you will not be seeing him anytime soon.
>>169526262
>moving the goalposts to Dota 2
I'm onto you mister.
If someone here think that dota 2 is better, than go and play a match for 1 fucking hour with your 'le Anti mage very originaleoeoeo' hero and tell me witch one was more fun and less frustrating to play, hots or dota2.
>>169526571
I mean the indev
>mfw managing to win a game on tomb
>as vikings
>Against two stealthies
>>169526724
I hope for some Protoss pussy or Diablo Demons!
Any maybe some sexy skins, but as much as i know blizzard i dont think they will. Maybe femdiablo. What are you hoping for anons?
>>169526879
anything at this point
also wondering when we'll hear back about that loot system
>>169526879
YOGG'SARON
Where is my fucking lovecraftian horror, huh?
>>169526879
>Any maybe some sexy skins, but as much as i know blizzard i dont think they will.
>ignoring the latest Tyrande, Chromie and Valeera skins
Seems to me like they're loosening up on this as it probably brings a lot of sales
At this point SJW controversy over a sexy outfit would probably benefit the game
Stukov when
>>169526879
Lifeguard bikini Morales with a watergun and surfboard
I need a proper skin to roleplay the healslut meme
Why the fuck isn't this a thing already
Like she's the bloody definition of healslut support
Other supports can do atleast something she can't
Only heals
>>169527678
Healslut meme is stupid because MMO healers get grouped in with the FPS healers and the ARTS healers. It triggers me to no end, as a former raider.
>>169526676
I'm a dotababby, burned out on Dota 2 last year with their retarded limited-time achievement shit and have been playing HotS for months.
I miss pre-7.00 Dota.
I miss real laning.
I miss last hitting.
I miss denying.
I miss drafting.
I miss having the freedom to do more than sit there and soak and praying that my teammates will stop being retarded.
I miss wards.
I miss dust and sentries.
I miss items.
I miss the variety in Dota 2 games. HotS having more than one map does not make it less one-note than Dota 2, ironically.
I miss the heroes in Dota 2, because every HotS hero makes me think "Oh this is half of old PL", "Oh this is half of Troll Warlord", "Oh this is half of Drow but sort of better".
I miss the mechanics.
I miss the theorycrafting.I miss the e-sports memes.
I haven't even looked at Dota since I burned out, and it's really hard for me to even bother thinking about going back so I'm still playing HotS.
HotS is an alright game in its own right.
But comparing it to Dota and trying to make value comparison between the two is kind of stupid and pointless because they're drastically different games.
It's just all shitposting and bait. If you want HotS to be "better" or get a bigger playerbase, Blizzard needs to stop with the handholding and casualisation. Sure it gets normies playing but even normies get bored of that shit once they realise they are doomed to lose a game with no ability to personally put in effort other than represent the team at a 5v5 feeding clash. Either revamp HotS into a different game altogether, or just straight up rip off Dota and LoL completely instead of half-assing it.
There's no point in comparing MOBAs, they're all different shit.
>>169528156
>I quit DotA 2 because I got bored of it
>Why isn't this game a ripoff of DotA 2?
Nah, fuck off. Heroes is honestly the easiest game to carry in because you literally never lose until the core is dead. Can't do anything against a fed enemy that can kill you in two autos. The long list of things you listed are all terribly boring and after over a thousand games I never want to do any of them ever again. Heroes is more relaxing and more fun. Locked in a life or death struggle to get a minions gold, fuck off.
You can't Nerf Lucio cause he is black it would be racist. Lucio lives matter!
>>169528737
>can't read English, the post
>>169529094
That is literally what you said.
Are you OK, anon?
>>169529047
he's already a racist sterotype
>yo boi wat up
>has gun
>needs auto aim
>LOUD MUSIC E'RYWHERE
>slap some skates on him no one will notice ^_^ OC donut steel
>>169455821
>Custom content
>Counting as new content
Doesn't count, since it's user-made content. In this day and age, Warcraft 3 if it were released as new, wouldn't have nearly as good a content maker as what we've had in the past.
>>169529203
I said they are two different games, so comparing them is stupid, but if HotS is going to be less dead than it is currently now, it needs something better to offer to players than what is currently available. It's an alright game as is - I'm still having fun - and can probably stay stable if Blizzard keeps it on the same path it's been for the past year or so, but it's going to stay as a relatively dead game until something drastic changes because it's too stupidly simple. Nowhere in my post did I say that I wanted HotS to become like Dota,
Gaben thought there was something worth stealing in HotS' talent system, so clearly Blizzard devs still can make things that other companies think are worth stealing but they're just too attached to keeping the game as-is instead of experimenting and/or improving the game.
>>169528737
>reading comprehension
>>169435270
But they already put in the best skin I could want.
Now if only he were stronger.
I need an up to date Valla build. last time I played shit was so different
>>169530487
All of her builds are viable in different situations. Learn when each talent is good and why.
>>169530487
Arrows if the enemy if full of stealth shit.
Hatred otherwise.
Never take Death Blossom, it's a drop in DPS.
Take Giant Killer at lv 16.
Done.
>>169530487
Don't listen to this anon >>169530487
You either go w or q build.
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/valla#oP6U
W build, this is your standard and best in most situations. 10 and 13 depending on what you're up against. You get a lot of easy safe to hit burst aoe dmg from your w. Note that it changes your teamfight quite a bit. You don't want to w without full hatred.
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/valla#gTIK
Q build, standard on Battlefield of Eternity because it melts the immortal. You can also take it on other maps with Hot Pursuit on 1 but I don't quite recomend it. 10, 13 and 16 everything is valuable however Siphoning Arrow gains a lot of value with q talents obviously.
Auto attack build underperforms, can be fun to play but it's a lot weaker than the other 2 builds.
On 20 you can also go Rancor.
>>169532319
If you go want to go Rancor, take Manticore on 16.
Quiver in every other situation, 40% extra range is just too good to pass up on if you're not going full damage.
Should I kill myself?
>>169534412
How long have you been playing?
>>169534498
Since beta but not consistently at all
>>169530748
>never take death blossom
bad advice.
you're gonna be spending a lot of time running as valla, being able to do nearly full damage while doing so is great. basically turns you into a temporary tracer. not to mention, it is magic damage and piercing through evasion and the like, the most notable of which is illidan. not to mention, the upgrade is her best level 20 talent. but yeah, if you have no trouble having high uptime, don't grab it. i don't know why i didn't capitalize anything.
>>169534670
Then yes, you should kill yourselve
>>169534412
Are you having fun, though?
>focus on yourself
>don't argue with people, especially once in a game
>try to avoid learning/playing too many heroes at once
>always look back to see if there's a way you could've played something out better, regardless of outcome
>>169534412
Fresh accounts start at Diamond 3, so yes.
>>169534412
>>169534670
where were you ranked in previous seasons?
>>169535457
Silver, pretty much. When I win I always get like 225 points, I dunno if that means anything. My QM rating is apparently plat too. Again, dunno if that matters at all.
>>169534959
Yeah I have fun, I just hate how stressed out people get. Some people will tilt right from the start. Feels worthless to play QM though.
>>169527081
You are right. Than i get my hopes up for more!
I just solo queue
Im account lvl 28 and ive got like 20k gold
is this game funner with friends? how do you make friends?
also what heroes are good
I wish I had a death note that allowed me to kill valeera players by writing their usernames down.
I hate this character.
I just played a match where they had kaelthas, lili and all of the stealth characters.
That's fucking horse shit. They fucking raped us in eight minutes.
Why is there not a surrender button.
>>169543641
>lose against the worst comp in existance
>>169543398
>god bless
>neat
>I think it's significantly more enjoyable when played with friends
>no idea
>>169543641
I wouldn't mind a 4/5 or 5/5 surrender button, but I doubt we'll be getting one unless there are tweaks to the bones of the game.
How can they top Lucio? He's the quintessential support hero, how do you do better?
>>169544503
Lucio is not good enough to be a solo healer.
how to counter lucio
>>169545703
just stun him
>>169545703
dead game dead thread
>mfw I am playing with two hots autismos as a ghetto scrub silver player
>>169548616
It is late on a Sunday. What do you want?
>>169548712erp.
>>169549205
fuck off dude
>>169549205
Haven't we fucked before?
>>169549394
post some li li and i will
>>169550217
i dont think so
>>169514220
>being a furfag too
pathetic, seek counseling
why does kt's q talent reset on death when every other heroes dps quest doesn't?
>>169552331
Probably an experiment. Wasn't he one of the first Hero changed and given quest talents?
>>169552331
Medivh also off the top of my head.
Where the fuck is the Overmind
>>169521118
Nice.
>>169555804
AND EMBRACE THE GLORY THAT IS YOUR BIRTHRIGHT
>>169555804
HOW DO YOU LIKE MY MOVES, DAGGOTH?
Egg Hunt >>> Fishy Deal(Bribe)
hello
i have never played a moba before this weekend but started yesterday for the wow mount
to my surprise i had fun
i tried a bunch of heroes i think i'd like and really enjoyed Thrall, bought him and played a few games since
Is this a bad choice? how much do tiers REALLY matter?
i know for casual it's usually not at all, but how about playing ranked?
>>169562115
He is pretty good.
>>169562115
Thrall is very good.
Tiers matter to a certain extent, not for beginners though.
Hit up a guide just for some basics though.
>>169562163
>http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist
i actually just looked at the tier list and had misremebered.
yesterday i was playing Jaina and KT, so I was thinking of their positions
also Arthas looked fun
>>169562276
Even the writer of that list say the tier lists are pretty subjective but Thrall is amazing in most maps/comps because of his high self sustain and damage not to mention root.
>>169562393
Also, I was checking out the stats for his talents and saw that pretty much everyone takes Ride the Lightning over Mana Tide at 4. I get why, as in one CL can proc the passive, but I was going OOM without Mana Tide if I lived long enough. Anyway to fix this?
Also how much better is Earthquake? I prefer sundering generally, and I saw some build videos on EQ from a few weeks ago, but also saw it had been nerfed/sundering buffed (if i remember right) since then
>>169562616
In my opinion EQ is better for the massive slow and sustain but Sndering still have its place.
>>169562115
>Thrall
I think he's great, especially as a learner "melee" Hero.
>how much do tier lists matter
Eh, it depends. Most of them aren't really created by rank/mmr (Alarak may be S tier in Diamond-Master, but the average Silver player can't pilot him, for example)
>>169562616
learn to not spam your skills.
as an example you should only use chain lightning for laning.
>Want to practice Tass.
>Qm Tass solo support Vs Lucio and Morals.
>Unranked draft dodge.
>Targeted Tass ban from enemy team because people knew I wanted to practice Tass from dodged game.
>Dodge.
>Dodge.
>>169563160
Ignore this guy.
Don't spam your other skills unless necessary.
Lightning is a good poke. Use it often to soften up or confirm kills.
>>169562115
AS LONG YOU PICK EARTHQUAKE AT LV 10 INSTEAD OF THE OTHER ONE
GOD, WHAT IS IT WITH PEOPLE PICKING THE WALLS OVER ACTUALLY USEFUL SKILLS
>>169564094
He means to not spam wolf and wf on minions, not that you should use CL exclusively for laning.
>estimated time 180s
>elapsed time 600s and going
Great game hotsbabs. Real good shit.
>>169567490
>tfw 900 second queues for placements last season
>almost all ten games
zz
>>169567490
It's blizzdrones you uneducated swine.
Is sylvanas OP? Just had one on my team beat me in siege and hero damage on my main, and I tried pretty hard.
>>169569010
>on my main
what did he mean by this
>>169569010
her damage is mostly slow and spread so it's not a big deal. team comps and maps mean a lot so characters can be strong one game and pretty useless the next.
overall she's about average. many stronger characters with some like ragnaros that actually do better than her on her shitter-supposed "broken" maps.
I wish I was American. Why are the russian subhumans in all of my games, but never on the enemy team? If I had balanced teams, I'd win 80% of my games. Always some cringy retard to snowflake a trash hero, they can't make work, or go afk.
>>169571004
>I wish I was American
Ahahahahahaha no you don't
>>169569010
She can be, if she isnt getting counterpicked in some way. Her hero dmg in good hands is more impressive than most people expect, especially early. She can snowball you hard if you get ahead at some point in the game.
If you want to fuck with her, pick a mage youre good at, preferably Guldan. He destroys her
>>169572039
Yeah I do. Richest country with the most opportunities and variety. I bet even american "pros" for this trash game get paid double or triple of what a teacher would get paid for example in a different country.
Bets?
Why do I lose more points than I win?
>>169573581
u ded
>>169573581
left wins.
Falstad will die more than 5 times.
>>169573581
If you don't feed too much in early game I can see your team winning.
>>169573581
enjoy getting raped everytime you set foot outside your towers
>>169573686
you probably play below your mmr. if you lose, the game assumes its to players you shouldnt lose to, and if you win it expected you to win so you get shit for points
>>169573581
your azmodan bodied them so hard, jesus
>>169573869
>>169573965
>>169573992
>>169573994
I fed like a fucking madman. Actually our entire team did.
>>169574324
>Glaurung
That washed up idiot that got kicked from every team because he's a one trick pony? Or just some impostor.
>>169574610
Everyone's legit here, no impostors. Bets again?
>>169574787
Guldan Varian Sylv on Braxis? should be ez for blue
>>169573994
What a trash system, literally can't control how garbage my teams are, no matter how well I play.
>>169574787
>strong solo laner
>he'll probably be on murky duty
>very good wavelclear if the obj turns to shit
>can push like a motherfucker either with the zerg or the other wave thanks to Sylv
>peel, 3 stuns, poly and fear
>they have shit for a frontline and have to rely on KT/Auriel/Murky to peel
Your damage might be a bit on the low side, but if you keep Gul'dan and Sylv alive, you have good chances.
Is there any reason to ever use anyone but the Templar in D3?
>>169574886
>>169575030
We lost. Varian went twin blades and we almost pulled off the win despite him. But 0 frontline late game lost
>>169575618
The enchantress has great CC, and you don't really need the templar if you're already tanky yourself.
>>169575873
>bronze blades of shit
No fucking surprise you lost.
>tfw can't control temper the shitters are losing me games, and got silenced
This sucks.
>wake up
>nothing new
This is how games die
>>169577961
>wake up
>game is still garbage with a trash community
This is how games die.
>>169569010
depending who your main is, you might just be shit at playing them
>>169575618
>>169575995
look at the passive buff they give and pick the one that buffs your build
>>169579389
I have 69% win rate as them in master.
Can QM matchmaking limit the number of stealth characters in a match?
Kind of getting tired of joining QM and being a support on a team with a Nova, Zeratul, and Valeera. Pretty much get to expect that I will spend the whole game getting targeted since the majority of my team is invisible.
got my glorious ass from plat 2 to diamond 5. Apparently I'm standing against blizzard, god, universe and cosmos.
How is your meme session going?
>>169579660
ok, you were playing 2 specialist at master? if not why you expecting to beat sylv in both stats?
>>169579923
Russians and nova mains in every game. Barely wining anything.
>>169579923
Maximum /meme/
>>169579954
I wasn't playing a specialist, that's why I was surprised.
>>169580041
why were you expecting to beat sylv in both stats?
who's you main.
>>169580086
Because I almost always top stats, sometimes exp too. Not telling who my main is, in case I get laughed at.
>>169580159
So you're retarded. Got it.
>>169580159
oh ok, so you're a shitter who played with someone better at sylv than you are at your "main"
I made this decision based on your obsession with stats.
>>169580324
>>169580337
Angry gold shitters detected.
>>169580524
>get blown out
>y-y-you're gold! ;_;
ebrytiem
>>169580524
your opinions are invalidated by having a main
>>169580687
>>169580689
It's ok, maybe one day you can get to plat 5.
>>169580789
i don't want to de-rank just to play with you and your main
>>169581019
Plat is after gold, so you'd be ranking up, newfag.
>>169581120
if you had an ounce of sense you'd have understood that the
>implication
was I am above plat.
>>169581179
Whatever helps you sleep at night little buddy.
>>169581325
we're all laughing at your main
>>169581365
I suggest /xivg/ for your roleplaying needs.
This is the quality of games I get
Obviously I'm the 3.3k faggot
>>169579660
>be master
>have to come to /hotsg/ to ask how good sylvanas is
yeah sure buddy
>>169584804
>never seen a sylvanas rape this hard before
>came to bump your shitty faggot thread and try and force a discussion about the sexiest character in warcraft lore
Sorry for trying.
Thought I was just a terrible player with even worse teammates, but than I learned to instantpick tassadar, rexxar, li-ming and zarya. Now I have won 10 HL games in a row, even with below 80 IQ teammates.
Ask me anything!
>>169584887
>came to bump your shitty faggot thread
why? just fuck off
>>169585118
Kill yourself.
>>169585043
tell me your Li-ming secrets
>>169585390
>>169585118
>>169580687
>>169580524
>>169578103
Why are heroes shitter so angry? Is it because Mobas attract stupid people?
Just be more like /tsg/, /dng/ or /smg/. Everybody is mature and polite.
>>169585390
no thanks mister "master"
>>169585690
Please.
>>169585676
>Mobas attract stupid people
what part of you being in this thread dont you get yet
>>169580040
Won another two. Both as Abathur. Tried the Carapace build, wasn't bad, actually.
chromie got mvp
>Diamond II gamesDiablo was not a bot
>>169587742
Kill participation matters more than numbers. That's why she got it.
>autist splitpush afkers wonder why they don't get virtual cookies via MVP or free wins in a game not about splitpushing and about objective securing and teamfighting
Not sure if laffin @ u or just concerned for your health desu family unit
I'm in diamond, but I've never seen a single Medivh player, even though he's in the t1 list. Hmmmm.
Didn't see this in the OP but theres a site here for looking at balance changes for individual heroes
heroespatchnotes.com/
How important is not dying in this game?
Since there is no gold loss / gold reward on death, how much of an impact do you have on the game when you die 0-2 times=?
>tfw botting WoW for battlenet currency to spend on HotS and Hearthstone
ww@
Show me a HotS meme I haven't seen yet.
>>169591260
>>169589297
Extremely hard to get value from, but arguably the best team play hero in the game from sheer utility. Requires teams that aren't downies to utilize.
>>169590052
One person dying puts the friendly team in a rut of losing exp, objectives, opens everyone up to ganks, and can cause snowball loses regardless of lead. Not dying is probably the most important thing you can do.
>>169591630
>Requires teams that aren't downies
Then why is it a hots hero?
>>169591778
So pros can have one hero to play that isn't braindead easy.
>>169467143
i like her a lot, she's my favourite warrior so far.
she's good at taking tons of damage and her stun ult is nice.
can also clear camps well on her own
>>169467143
No.
She's great for people starting out though.
>>169469602
He isn't.
>>169467809
>stitches
>diablo
>no anub
>no arthas
>no sonya
>no muradin
>>169592936
>no etc
>>169592936
>stitches
>diablo
>not fun
gtfo nigga
>>169591851
Doesn't answer my question.
>>169593607
>stitches
>long range hook someone
>they walk away because stitiches is shit
Wow fun!
>>169593687
>shit = not fun
that's not how it works
>>169593687
stitches is always picked in diamond
>>169593635
I did actually. He's a high skillcap high reward hero that rewards team for working together and coordinating. He sees a lot of pro play but not much solo queue play because of this, doesn't mean he's bad.
if medivh is so good with good players, why does he have dog-shit winrate in masters and never in pro games?
makes you wonder
>>169593829
>hots
>high skillcap
Stopped reading right there.
>>169594062
Got me, epic win :^)))
>>169594046
He is contested in some pro games and even banned often.
>but solo HL he never picked!!!!!
Laffin
>play anub
>win
explain this ???
>>169595398
>play anub
>lose
hello????
>>169593607
Only fun part about diablo is charging people into walls and stitches has nothing but hook. Not even any cc. Both are also fairly immobile which is anti fun.
>>169595964
Everything about Diablo is fun and he's certainly not immobile with his charges and hellgate.
Stitches sucks though, shame about it.
>>169596379
He's immobile as shit. A 20 talent doesn't change that. Charge every 12 seconds and you can only charge enemies, that's the definition of an immobile tank.
Only fun immobile tank is Arthas desu.
>tracer can attack while moving
>lucio can attack while moving
>inevitable tank and specialist will be added that attack while moving from overwatch elsewhere
>true cancer team eventually will be in the game
Soaking up the fun while i can boys, it wont last forever
>>169596379
>Stitches sucks though
Bronze league advice
Help, I'm trying to play Azmo only until GM, but I keep getting Haunted Mines and Battlefield of Eternity as my maps.
What's a memehero to play on smaller maps?
>>169596763
Xul/Zagara
>>169596680
t. silver
>>169596763
Murky, Hammer. Don't play Zagara or Cul on Battlefied of Haunted Mines.
>>169596679
>tracer can't poke for shit and dies to cc
>Lucio is fun and balanced
>inevitable tank or specialist will be added to the game somefucking time in the next 5 years that can attack while moving
>will either be overpowered or complete shit and quickly get overnerfed/hardly touched in the proceeding month
This game is only fun one out of every 10 games.
You're expecting the people who released KT, Li-ming and Ragnaros in states that completely warped the game.
>>169596889
Nevermind I'm buying Rexxar.
He's propably good on 2 lane maps, and I won't feel like such a Diamondshitter.
>>169597534
I despise Murky, and have no real clue how to position with Hammer.
Been gone for ages.
Any news on whom to expect after Lucio?
>>169597632
my peenus weenus of course
>>169597632
>>169597605
Then don't play a specialist on those maps, and if you do play Sylvannas or something. Split push is shit and on those maps it's even worse.
>>169597760
>tfw no DT hero that can choose to become a Stalker
I want tofuckizumi!!!
so ur in the club and this guy burrows into ur gf
what do you do ???
>no hero teaser
>no indev
>no loot tab
>no voice chat
>no clans
>no unlocked progression
This is your LAST chance Blizzard! LAST CHANCE!
>>169597632
More unpopular OW heroes
>>169598321
Continue fucking my bae because I'm used to maggots in her womb and adding a few bugs to that is just a kinky extra play
>>169597632
Logic says Stukov
Koreans say protoss, but didn't specify who
>>169598939
>Logic says Stukov
Memes says Stukov.
>>169598547
I will bet gorillion dollars that we'll know who the next hero is by friday.
New season starts march 14th. New season = big changes = PTR that starts 6-7 march. March 6th is monday, In-Dev is ALWAYS on monday. So hero confirmation on friday.
>play Gazlowe every game
>always have top hero dmg / xp gain / struc damage
>always lose
Uhh, Hearthbabs?
>>169599419
>play Gazlowe
>always lose
what a shocker
>>169599419
Zagara does everything Gaz does but better
>>169600404
She doesn't feed nearly as good since she doesn't have access to sprint to hop into the enemies loving arms as fast as possible.
>>169599419
>bronze-goblin
>evades teamfights like it's plague
>>169599419
>avoid teamfights
>pve all game
>wonder why you lose
typical WoW raider pve shitter.
>>169599319
>I'll have to wait another full week
I CAN'T take it anymore
FUCKING WHEN
>>169600530
She has Nydus
>>169601810
Nydus is the worse ult most of the time.
>>169601141
>>169600875
Uhh then explain to me why I have top stats EVERY GAME?
Riddle me this, Hearthbabs!
>>169602015
Stats don't matter for MVP because you don't have kill participation, aka you played single player push simulator and didn't help during the most important times during the match.
>tfw you team stays on mid lane trying to fight the enemy team all game long
>have to go soak lanes as Nova
>team starts crying about a Nova laning
When will these idiots learn you have to actually soak exp off the lanes?
>Play Skele build Xul
>Push all game
>Win
Wew
>>169502857
>AIEEE
Based on official press release:
NEW HERO REVEAL will take place on FRIDAY at IEM Katowice.
Source: https://hotscenter.pl/aktualnosci/532/heroes-of-the-storm-i-starcraft-ii-na-iem-w-katowicach
>>169602454
>how to hit plat 101
>>169603263
Now in non-shitspeak please?
is diablo a tank or a bruiser?
>>169604754
both which is why he's broken. but tons of heroes are broken so it's "balanced"
>>169604492
Use google translate or your brain, you nigger.
Hint: Alexei Stukov = Russian/Polish name = IEM is in Poland.
come on, its got to be him
ITS GOT TO BE
right?
>>169604962
Alexei is not a polish name sadly. But i still want him in HotS
>>169605154
It's KelThuzad or Terokk
>>169605464
never and never, nice try tho
>>169605464
Where did this shitty reddit terokk meme come from?
>>169605154
Can the zerg not infest Protoss? Why are Terrans such betas?
>>169605754
Anon tried to force it when Dehaka was hinted.
>>169605952
They can't...don't really remember why though
>>169605754
Also
>>169603263
"IEM zu not only the struggles of e-sports. On Friday, March 3, one of the creators of Heroes reveal in Katowice new heroic figure in the Nexus! All were present at the IEM invite you to vonicjalną conference chair. 24:30. In another case - follow us channel on Twitch.tv not to miss this information."
hmm
>>169605154
This whole "WHERE IS STUKOV HE'S GOING TO BE NEXT RIGHT GUYS????" is such a stupid meme. Just stop.
>>169606189
It's big on reddit, gets many upvotes haha =)
>>169606484
At least they finally shut the fuck up about memeiv.
>>169606484
>>169606547
I cant help that you have shitty taste in heroes you would like in the game
>lunara voices the HS exploration night elf
is there anything she can't do?
>>169606707
have a decent E ability
>>169606707
be real;-;
>>169606890
post 'em
When are they announcing the new hero? The music man came out like 10 years ago
>>169607968
Read the thread fucko
>>169484132
stukov is shit why everyone want him
Should i buy that cocksock aurael? I took me forever to get 10k and i just love to ress people in games
But i am worried about her heal mechanics the just seem like boring shit and also weak so in any teamfight she will end up on the ground with malf's cock throbbing deep in her throat
>>169608097
If they are doing a big announcement it's probably going to be a big name, not a meme side character like stukov
>>169608162
She is fun, but she is kind of garbage right now and she is very team dependent, if you don't have someone who can do a good amount of damage constantly you are less than half a hero
>>169608260
Like they did at Gamescom? Oh wait, it was a meme side character from the most retarded Starcraft campaign and a russian whale. Stukov at least was also in Starcraft1. And he's also russian. Pottery.
>>169607289
>>169607289
>>169608743
Damn dude, you need to diversify!
>>169607289
>>169609148
Not a warrior means not fun.
>>169607289
Not sure if I should get Chromie or Sonya next. I'm not very good at either but now it's just finishing my roster in order of fun.
>>169610714
I'm a huge bellend
>Valeera free week
Are you ready for all the ambush build Valeera to lose every game for you in QM
How good is uncle Dieablo nowadays? His grabs and jumps seem fun as fuck
>>169611205
>playing qm
>playing non-ranked without a party of friends in voice
>>169611310
Very good
>>169611547
>playing competetive mode only
>in HotS
Bitch I would be playing a different game on the bnet launcher if I wanted comptetive.
How's Thrall atm?
What are the most braindead characters that you guys recommend for a beginner? I have some experience in dota if that helps
>>169612258
Raynor. All he has are auto-attacks and stutter stepping.
>>169612258
>Malfurion, Healer Support
>Raynor, Ranged sustained damage-dealer
>Johanna, beefy disruption tank
>Thrall, "melee" assassin
There are a couple others, but I think these are the best to begin with. Price, simplicity, etc.
>>169611978
Still great, unless I missed something.
>>169611640
I'm gonna buy him, 2000 gold isn't much for a god of terror when some retard human archer costs like 7k
When can I get to eliminate 1 character to not see every QM?
I'm so sick of seeing Valeera every single QM.
It's just so boring.
>>169612570
His cost is low because he's been in the game for like 4 years and the game is only 2 years old.
>>169612570
Yes, hes dirt cheap and good. Godly engage and disruption
>>169611876
Hearthstone?
>>169611205
How do you know the next free week rotation?
>>169605754
when they teased dehakaon twitter they showed a picture of his footprints and said "somethign outlandish is coming to the nexus"
the footprints looked birdlike and people thought outlandish had meaning (outland from wow)
together, it looked like clear hints towards an arrkoa and terokk was the best guess
>>169614080
Why don't i have him for free tho since i own diablo 3 on this beetlenet account
>>169614490
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: February 28 - March 7, 2017
Raynor
Muradin
Falstad
Leoric
Tyrande
Sgt. Hammer
Anubarak (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Tracer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Valeera (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
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Don't build Valeera like this
qm going well today
>>169614829
That build is pretty good I don;t know why you're talking about.
Can I get a quick bogdown on Rexxar?
When/How do I play him best?
>>169615369
Valeera is a CC/Utility hero not an assassin, Ambush build is bad
>>169614829
I think you can afford to go hard into assassinate if you take the slowing poison at level 1. But going in there without a stun, without a silence, without anything doesn't help your team at all.
>>169615517
nah
>>169614646
I think you get Valla for free if you own Reaper of Souls, I dont think you get Dibbls for D3. not 100 % tho
>>169615491
You play him when you need a strong solo laner, his strongest maps are Braxis Holdout and Dragon Shire, because Misha can take and hold points solo.
No clue about the current specc, just dont specc boars at 10
>>169616636
>don't get boars
>>169611640
You were right. Charging enemies into our fort was fun as fuck. And his health is fucking massive with the 25% spell armor i could just walk inside the enemy team and they couldn't do shit basically
Also he has massive damage output for a tank and all those delicious nonstop disrupts to any channeled ability hnnnggg
>>169615491
Solo laner
Objectives that require a body present (sky temple, braxis, good for bush checking), not a good solo tank, good against heavy frontline teams, misha controls are dick and she sucks right now. Wait for fix.
>>169593687
>>169595964
>not taking slow on his aoe
how do I get good with valeera ?
>>169618870
play zeratul
>>169618870
Wait till someone dive to your team and kill him.
>>169618870
Uh, use her stun to set up for an ally.
Alternatively to peel for your carries when somebody inevitably dives them.
>>169613364
pick anti stealth every game = valeera is fun
99% of valeeras can only use stealth openers
>>169618923
>>169618965
>>169619094
so she would be like a support or anti-carry?
>>169614646
valla was free
diablo was free if you owned ros and logged in during event
whats worse is i don't own sylv, but have her on 4 smurf accounts because vulture
>>169619305
She's an anti carry
Garrote is insane and the best to use most of the time
Cheap shot is for set-up
Ambush is a finisher rather than an opener
>>169619546
>Garrote is insane and the best
I find it absolutely perfect that at this exact same time on reddit there's a new thread saying that garrote is the worst one
I'll trade someone a legend carry in Hearthstone for a Master carry in HotS.
>>169620959
A targeted 2.5 second silence on a 9 second cooldown is outrageously stupidly strong. The only comparable character is Alarak and he doesn't get that duration until level 13, you can't even hit people with counterskills with it unless you get reckless swing. In order to pull off that same level of lockdown you lose 20% of your damage on every skill and make yourself vulnerable.
And on top of that you can spec into the single strongest and longest anti-spellcaster talent in the whole game.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581815/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-update-february-27-2017-2-27-2017
>>169622871
Blizzard you fucking pussies! So constant nagging by shitters about Varian's stun was enough to remove it after all?!
>>169623078
It was too powerful.
>>169623078
Mad Variancuck.
>>169622871
did they nerf or buff tychus
>>169622871
Wow fucking removing the stun. Was not expecting it. Maybe adding more cooldown or something...
Anyway,did fuckall to make the other two ults viable again IMO, so it's Varian's turn to sit in the nerfed and never picked again corner
>>169623308
Nerfed his range, press the advantage and that's the stuff.
Buffed odin range and the spell ldamage reduction.
>>169622871
>varian got nerfed
amazing
>>169622871
>It wasn't healthy or fun for opponents.
Cry enough and you get what you want. So f we cry hard enough we can get kel'thuzad.
>>169623452
thanks but I meant overall, it seems more like a nerf than a buff imo desu
>>169622871
>warbringer
>>169623598
You're right is more a of a nerf.
>>169622871
>removed Tass's permanent shield quest
WHAT THE FUCK
>>169622871
>murky and varian are nerfed
>no more varian E stun
PRAISE
>>169623749
blizzard is retarded
i'm not even mildly surprised anymore
>4 months to figure out the first rounds of nerfs after malf's rework weren't enough
lol
>Murky nerfs
>>169622871
>Lúcio already getting butchered
saves me 10k, thanks Blizzard.
>enjoying tychus today
>new version plz logout
>nerfed to hell
AND THAT CUNT VALEERA STILL ISNT NERFED
>those varian nerfs
>those tychus nerfs
ha ha good night
>>169624437
Valeera is balanced though
fuck, i loved tychus and they fucking nerfed, fuck!
>>169623749
>>169623965
>Yeah this quest is too hard too complete it doesn't feel satisfying
>let's make it easier and also remove the reason people picked the talent
Lol everyone on blizz forums asking for valeera nerf, she's shit and so easily countered
>>169625032
Valeera is the bane of QM anon they can't do anything about her.
>>169622871
>murky not removed from the game
the minor nerfs weren't good enough
>>169623598
more 'like' a nerf? they bent him over and went in dry lol, do you not realize how huge that is?
I dont care that much desu, I only see Valla these days
>our guldan literally drain lifes a completely out of position diablo
>with 100% health
>and 70% mana
>in the end diablo gets away with ~10% health when his team finally catches up
>>169607289
>>169614829
good combo but not a good build.
smoke and dfa are anti synergy
not much reason for more regen and tea too.
>>169624437
try her. she's not that good. "play zeratul" was the best advice here. just no quite strong enough to make up for no vp. she can get a lot of selfish qm stats but real teamfights (as in good drafts) are not so easy.
>>169625386
>20-4
>they had zaryas nades, lunaras reveal talent and chromies globe talent
were those people blind?
>>169624370
>16.5 to 15.5
DEAD HERO LOL
>>169622871
>completely shat on Tychus
Well you won't be seeing him in HGC anymore, BlizzardExcept when some memester team takes chogall
>>169623308
They fucking -gutted- him. Pretty much every ranged AA Assassin is C Tier or less, now.