/bfg/ - Battlefield General

Was just about to make a thread myself lad, thank you.

Is playing medic the most thankless job in BF1

I like BF1 but these /bfg/ threads are just not really getting enough replies to warrant a thread on /vg/

>>168846694
yes

>>168847118
Are you breaking up with me

>>168846694
I always say thank you after being revived, if someone doesn't after I revive them I don't make that mistake twice

>>168847468
It's not you.

>>168848989
I just did 30 revives in an operation and amazingly I was third. I was running literally all over the goddamn place man shit is actually intense if you focus solely on staying slightly behind and saving as many as you can.

>>168849881
It's a fun role to play, especially when you're playing with buddies and constantly having the beg for reanimation

List of classes in order of how fun they are to play

>Assault Scout
>Medic
>Support
>Assualt
>Tanks
>Planes
>Hill Humpers
>Nervous Tanks

>>168846694
>Thinking millenials care about anyone but themselves.

>>168851153
>Assault
>Assault Scout
>Support
>Tanks
>Hill Humpers
>Nervous Tanks
>Planes
>Medic

>>168851153
>>168853268
Is a nervous tank the equivalent of hill humper
Like the art truck barely outside spawn firing at objective C/D from a mile away?

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Maybe if we post emblems this thread will have a semblance of life

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>>168844497

Being an FT pilot isn't all that it's cracked up to be.

>mitrange hit someone with cav rifle
>37 damage
>swinging sword is so hit and miss it's easier to run people over
>can't sprint and aim/reload at the same time

What's the point of cavalry again?

And while I'm at it, what's the point of the 5 round medic rifles. Unless you are a wizard with headshots you have to reload after every kill, even the lower damage 10 round rifles it's easy to consistently get 2 kills per magazine, or 3 if you get a few headshots. The 5rd ones aren't even that much more accurate.

>>168856210
I actually went back to the Cei-Rigotti because I hate the Selbs recoil and sound.

>>168856446
It's the main one I use because 10 rounds is the best balance between damage and mag size, plus it has the best sights of all the medic rifles. I like them more than the mondragon. Factory model too. Only thing I don't like is the inherent spread which makes mid-long range less dependant on your aim and more on luck.

>>168844497
Why are there no 64 player servers for anything but conquest and ops?
Shit is so boring on huge maps with 23 other players

>>168857994
64 players was way too many for rush maps. Grenade spam is bad enough normally, nevermind when you have one MCOM to attack and 32 players camping it ready to rain down explosives at a moments notice. I don't care about TDM or domination because those modes are shit.

>>168853567
yeye

>>168854040
gonna be postin some highlights in a while

Also if anyone wants to be added to the BFG PS4 team page on battlefieldtracker drop your username

>>168858695
I'm talking about BF1

>>168856210
Honestly it's best to get somewhere fast and then dismount. You're basically a super soldier once your boots hit the ground.

t. Rank 12 cavalry

>>168859472
I-i would if I wasn't so bad

>>168859824
Yeah I know I'm just saying 64 player rush was a mistake and I'm glad it's not in 1. with 64 player rush every MCOM ends up being metro conquest flag B shitshow where you just hope your meatgrinder can push through their meatgrinder.

>>168860547
And in 24p it becomes a one sided roflstomp 9/10
I prefer the meat grinder
Who the hell wants to play a game mode where your options are to steamroll or get steamrolled? Literally no fun

>>168860292
It's okay, you can just follow me around and be my heals slut

>>168861517
At least in 12v12 you as an individual can make a difference. A squad wipe in 32v32 means nothing whereas a triple kill in 12v12 can be crucial. The less players there are the more the game comes down to individuals skill, you can't just throw a grenade in the general direction of the enemy and get a kill.

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Also about carrying rush just reminded me

>BC2 rush
>team gets absolutely fisted on the first point, pushed back and camped at spawn
>get the UAV with zoom optics and the missile strike
>sit so far back from MCOMs I can barely see them
>missile strike them all to blow them up
>win the map and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it
>meanwhile teammates going 2-25 kd/r

>>168862539

Typical BAR baby

>hurr da durrrrrrrrr ttk is the only thing that matters
>how do I bipod???????

>>168862539
>he doesn't use the MG-laserbeam

>last game played was the night before the patch

>>168864927
Are you talkin to me

>>168865434
I was talking about myself
Forced myself to take a break and now I'm afraid to go back.

What do you think of the secret dog tag? Will you go through the effort to get it?

>still playing this shit

LMAO

>>168866230
how bout u go an fuck off this thread then u peice of shit u think we need a stupid fuckwitt like u telling us about looking good who the fuck are u take your worthless advice and get the fuck out of her

>they made the Medic Codex guns the Selb and the M1907

why did they do this. i'd rather use the Cei than either of these pieces of shit.

>>168867479

>Mark Hunt memes have reached battlefield general

really makes you think

>>168846694
Some games I feel like there are at least 7x more medic bags everywhere than ammo. Then again I'm a console pleb.

>>168862483
>support scout combo

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>>168844497
I tried hillhumping today.

strangely relaxing, went back to ADHDing everywhere as an Assault the next round, but just hanging back and head shotting someone who sits still too long, spying with a Periscope and firing the regular flares to an objective is a change of pace

Why is the Mg.15 NA Low Weight so perfect bros?

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What DLC's do you all want to see happen?

>>168872209
Less black people, more Eastern Front and prototype weapons from all nations.

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>>168872397
>more Eastern Front
So woman soldiers?

>>168872553
wrong war

>>168872209
It doesnt really matter what they choose because no one really knows shit about WW1

>>168872209
accurate uniform pack

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>>168874796
Why not just changeable uniforms and switchable Heads?

>>168873425
How so?

>>168873270
They will find a way to weasel it in...

>>168875915
the vast majority of people today are very ignorant about WW1 history and its major battles

WW2 is way way more popular and "iconic" if you will

for someone who does know WW1 history, whats the FUNNEST weapon they're likely to add in expacs?

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>>168877587
>The Artemis Rifle

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>>168877587
Not a weapon, but the Tsar Tank as a behemoth for the Russians.

>Its unique and improbable design resembled both a gigantic gun carriage and a monstrous backwards-facing tricycle. Its large front wheels measured nine meters in diameter (nearly 30 feet), while its smaller back wheel, used for steering, had a diameter of only one-and-a-half meters (about 5 feet). It was nine meters wide (nearly 30 feet) and 18 meters long (nearly 60 feet). It was designed to carry cannons and/or machine guns in two turrets, one on top of the carriage and a smaller one slung underneath. Additional machine guns were placed inside the sponsons (armored pods on each side behind the wheels). Its crew of ten had to climb along its “spine” to get to their stations. The Tsar Tank was designed to have a top speed of of 17 km/h (11 mph), but in reality it only achieved 8 km/h (5 mph), though this was still faster than any other heavy tanks in use. And heavy it was-- designed to weigh 40 tons, it actually ended up weighing 60 tons.

>>168876827
And what's fucking annoying about that is that it literally mixed old world tactics with the invention of the machine gun, recon planes, and improved communications routes, a perfect storm of tons of new ideas and the worst human conflict in history should be covered more in school classes. The multiple ally web that was had is similar to what's going on today desu.

>https://youtu.be/jFsiH77rNig
We should be the ones solving this, /bfg/

>>168881091
dogtags and weapon skins are for fags

>>168881161
The mistery is cool though

>>168881304
I'm in touch with what is cool and that is not cool.

I have about 2k kills with the lewis supressive. It's just amazing.

>deploy bipod
>*pop pop pop pop pop pop*

Not even the hillniggers stand a chance.
Plus handing out those ammopacks just guarantees me a battlepack every game.

>>168881091
why did DICE mean by this? you have to put alot of time and effort in order to get those dogtags.. fuck that.

>>168884806
>>168881091
I got it, took me an hour. Most of that was just loading screens and running around.

I think the secret is that masterman did propaganda with the armenian genocide that pissed off the ottomans. Maybe that'll be part 2.

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Can't wait to see how bad this thing sucks.

>>168886382
worst piece of shit Ive ever seen based on the stats

>>168886382
if this thing doesn't 4HK at low to mid range then it won't be worth it at all

>>168886382
>20 round mag
>lowest rpm

jesus fucking christ, why would anyone use this thing

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>>168886382
>Telescopic
>No Bipod

>>168887915
nevermind that, this one stolen from bf1 cte subleddit includes all upcoming weapons

https://imgur.com/gallery/Gz7EJ

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Autoloading 8 .35 master race

>>168887915
that gun is my new main desu

I claim it first, you fags can keep your autistico

>>168887915
>gotta use the autistico
that's gonna break the vow I made, to drop that thing as soon as I got the codex.

>>168888101
as a autist whos used every gun extensively and knows the game better than anyone else here

the shotgun and the sniper are the only ones there that are worth using

>>168889145
Even better than the Gewehr 98 and 10A or just some fun side gimmicks?

>>168882461
I thought battlepacks were awarded randomly. Ive gotten some after entering a game that literally ended the moment i spawned.

>>168888158
Autoloading is the worst weapon in the game.

>>168889521
>Autoloading is the worst gun in the game

t. baddie

Objectively the best stats of all weapons, including fastest TTK across all ranges. The only downside is low ammo capacity, but you can manage that anyway.

>>168889562
Yawn
>http://symthic.com/bf1-compare?Selbstlader_1906_Factory_vs_Autoloading_8_.35_Factory

Its not even selbstlader 1906 good, and that weapon sucks too. 5 round magazines on anything BUT a sniper rifle render the weapon practically useless.

>>168889521
Dropping x amount of med/ammopacks guarantees you a battlepack.

>>168889876
The Autoloading 8 shoots 20% faster, that's 20% faster TTK, which is quite a bit. And it recovers from recoil 75% faster, which is what allows you to shoot the Autoloading 8 at max RPM with basically no spread for an extremely quick kill.

Just stop trying buddy, the Autoloading 8 is the skill cannon of BF1 and the weapon the real players use.

>>168889287
>g98 and 10A as the pinnacles

but yes, probably sidegrades, will be used based on preference. The sniper has serious potential but I'd have to see it's sweetspot and velocity before judging completely

the smg isnt great (same rpm as the mp18 which no one uses for an idea) but I'll be trying it because I have self-respect and dont use the automatico. the medic gun is really hurt by only having optical and factory options. the lmg is just straight pure trash

"worth using" was kinda harsh wording. only the lmg seems "unusable" and even then every gun is worth playing around with even if its shit, for fun. the sniper could be real good, the shotty could be pretty fun, and the smg and medic rifle will probably be overshadowed by better weapons but can still be used fine.

>squadmate can switch between Villar Perosa, MG08 and Wex
Needless to say we won and he ended the match with 151-10 k/d.

>>168891764

How? Glitch or straight up hax?

>>168890552
>autoloading

Level 88, 2+ kd and 1.6 win ratio and I have never heard of it.

>>168892001
Hacks. I was following him and watched him use all the Sentry weapons while his player model was Assault. He also dropped bandage pouches.

>>168892001
>>168891764

It seems to be a new popular hack, I've seen probably 5-6 people doing it since the patch.

>>168889876

>Using meme stats from symthic in any argument about how a weapon performs in a BF game

FREE spotted

Oh my god we survived the night

>>168894459
breath deeply men, shout out with pride at this small victory

>>168872209
An operation for Vimy Ridge and Gallipoli

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>>168872209

JAPAN

>>168895019
I literally know nothing about what Japan did in WWI. Can you give me the highlights

>>168894735
I like this post

>>168894802
If they're doing more free maps, Gallipoli could be on that line up. Wouldn't make much sense to only give your Ottoman models only 3 maps, same reason why I suspect the USA to be in a DLC too

>>168894459
>tfw australian
>the only sentinel against the dark, keeping the thread from the page 10 abyss
>dawn breaks in US
>11pm here, I can rest once more

>>168895298
USA will be for sure I bet, the market is too big to not jerk off over the Americans' 6 months of action or whatever it was. Canadians will get cucked.

>tfw no Passchendaele map where you misstep and drown in mud

>>168895148

This is the only major land battle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Tsingtao

The rest was bote autism and minor skirmishes.

>>168895470
We love you and your bravery anon

>>168895148
would also be interested, couldn't sleep last night so I played battlefield and then watched the movie Pearl Harbour, which of course was world war 2 but that jap guy said some pretty awesome quotes

>>168895621
I just want you ton know that it is me, and only me, that administers this thread overnight (by myself)

>>168895491
DLC is determined by the effectiveness of a nations involvement in WW1, not the time, thats why USA will be the biggest DLC

>>168895839
>In the later stages of the European war, particularly after their success at Vimy Ridge and Passchendaele, the Canadian Corps was regarded by friend and foe alike as the most effective Allied military formation on the Western Front.[1] The Germans went so far as to call them "storm troopers"[2] for their great combat efficiency.

>mobilized 620,000 out of a population of 8mil

I'm biased but I want my Vimy Ridge/Passchendaele map

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>casuals can't even handle these easy as fuck assignments
lmao

>>168898625
fucking casuals ruin everything..
i bet some people will cry about the 75 heals/resupplies/revive shit...
jesus..

>>168899619
The Chauchat will be a 3 hit kill at close range and 5 hit kill at long ranges
Get fucking ready

>>168899858
neat. anything about the new shotgun?

>Japanese server
>See enemy standing still some 50 meter away
>bam bam bam with 1906
>ENEMY HIT 86
Too bad I can't see their names unless my teammates finish them off otherwise I'd report every single one of them. Fuckers think if they hack subtle enough they'll go unnoticed. Imagine how many subtle hackers like those are in a match. Not to mention invisible fuckers running around with pistols and aimbotters.

>>168899890
This, Also I want Standerd Issue Rifles available for all classes.

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panic

>>168900279
>>168899890
>https://youtu.be/Bhq7kBQoR0o

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>>168900620
>MarbleCuck

>>168890552
>>168856210
>>168892159

The Autoloading 8 .35 is amazing. I saw MarbleDuck's video on it and I was very skeptical, I don't think that guy really plays BF1 and I'd used the Selbstlader 1906 before and I found its small magazine and long reload time to be too big of a detriment.

Post-patch though, it's a much better gun. Both the Selbstlader 1906 and the Autoloading 8 .35 are only good for one opponent at a time, but where they shine is their fast rate of fire. The 1906 shares the same damage model as the Mondragon and Selbstlader 1916, meaning 3 hit kill at all ranges, while having the same speed as the Cei-Rigotti, 300 RPM. In practice this means that it's a mid range beast - if you don't get 1-spotted by a sniper, you'll destroy anyone you set your sights onto. Just don't miss, you can only miss two shots max. And you can't engage multiple foes unless you get lucky and kill one person with your rifle and then one other person with your sidearm.

The Autoloading 8's advantage over the Selbstlader is its 360 RPM, it has a faster TTK even when factoring in the 4 shot long range kill. In practice though you'll probably not be tapping at 360 RPM so which one you choose comes down to personal preference for me.

You'll be reloading a lot, and ducking into cover a lot but that's part of the learning curve of the weapon and for me it's a small price to pay to master the skill of using it.

On the other hand, my idea of the worst gun is the Selbstlader 1916. It has the slowest RPM meaning that even the Cei-Riggoti will out fire it and literally every other weapon of every other class will beat you in a face off, assuming two players of perfect skill. The large mag is useless unless you don't know how to manage your reload. IMO there are real benefits to picking the Mondragon over the 1906 but absolutely none to picking the Selbstlader 1916 over either of the others.

I would like a game mode with no crosshair, mini map, or map spotting, but with 3D spotting,friendly fire and 100% damage. I'd play hardcore but it's an even bigger sniper fest than usual. One thing I like about hardcore is that players use more realistic individual unit tactics, unlike standard mode where they all just follow the blue dots and shoot at anything else that moves. I see a lot more players use cover and check around corners and such in hardcore. It was like that in standard during BF1's launch window but by now everyone has learned the tricks to bypass that and go for faster play.

I want someone to hack BF1 to allow us to use whatever unit skin we want.

servers down?

>>168902715

Racist.

>>168902728
yup, EU here

also

>Get a taste of the first #Battlefield 1 expansion pack. Available now in the CTE, servers deploying tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/833722978915536900

WE WUZ SOLDIERS N SHIET

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ah, time to unwind with some good ol' battlefield!

>servers down

>>168872209

Russia

>>168892159
>never heard of it
That's becausee the weapon accounts for less than 0.5% of the usage in the game.

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>SERVERS DOWN

>>168889958

Pretty sure it doesn't though.. It's random and from what I've read pretty much the only thing the algorithm takes into account is that people shouldn't go too long without receiving one

>>168862539
I agree with him on the scouts, sniping was much harder (and as a result more rewarding) in BF4, but support is objectively the best class in BF1 (how the fuck can a class that gets infinite limpets and infinite grenades not be the best one?) also every singe support weapon is a viable gun (benet-mercie is still a fully automatic sniper, MG15 is a laser cannon and the BAR is still amazing)

also, should have known it was just a typical "they nerfed my favorite gun and I'm in tears" rant.

>>168888158
this and selbstlader 1906 are objectively the most patrician guns in the game

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>>168888158
fixed

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>>168913536
lel

are recoil patterns the most pointless customization option in shooters ever?

>>168898625
What the hell

Literally no one complained about this in BF4, and everything was locked behind assignments too

>>168915440
welcome to nostalgia, where everyone pretends everything in BF4 was great and perfect and worked perfectly and everything in BF1 is wrong and awful

SERVERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Fucking fags DDOSing the servers on a holiday again.

They ought to turn these fucks over to ISIS for a proper execution.

>>168898625

Where can I find a list of these assignments?

>>168917005
>They ought to turn these fucks over to ISIS for a proper execution.
Don't worry m8, those swedecucks will do this by themselves

Ayy we're back up

>>168917518

Still not working for me on PS4

Should I roll with rifle grenades or a medic crate?

>>168917674
medi packs

This whole time I didn't know I could switch to full auto with the Rigotti

>but remember the Zimmerman telegram
Huh. Did they just add this to the American dialogue?

>>168899929
Maybe he was wearing cavalry armor or you hit his leg you faggot.

>>168918894
Its there since launch

>attacking team in operation
>already lost one battalion on the first map
>people die and immediately starts to skip
>often I'm probably less than 10m away when they fall
>rush to get out my syringe and save him
>already gone by the time I get there
FUCKING WHY. WE'RE LOSING. WE NEED EVERY TICKET. FUCK.

The spirit of liberty ain't got no protection against those things.

Is Hardline vanilla worth $6?

>>168920825
the daily peak on PC is 1000 players

your choice, I guess the campaign is okay if you're bored

>>168919796
>dead teammate actually waiting for a revive
>its an ambush and there are 3 enemies hiding right where he died
At that point you should probably just skip.

>try out Gewehr 95 Infantry for first time

>having a difficult time aiming before someone kills me

Any tips?

>the new carbine is a longer range mp18 with worse hipfire and a smaller mag for a better ttk at range

>the new sniper looks good.

>new shotgun is the fastest firing 1 shot kill shotty but has worse range than the m97

>new medic slr looks best in class with a 2 shot kill range out to around 40m

>new LMG has a 3-5btk making it the new best cqc support gun and only really loses to the BAR from 13-30m where it proceed to be comparable to the BAR telescopic


Things are looking Gud. Finally another MG that won't be straight garbage like most of the other support guns.

>>168921432
Git gud

>>168922406
ty gg ez

>>168921432
like the other said, just git gud

when my aim is on point I can top scoreboards with the g95i even with other good players running around with autisticos

you should be fighting in the 20-40m range at all times, dont try long range shit if your tracking isnt very good and dont just run up on people if youre not confident in flicks, youll get shreded by automaticos up close until you get very good at quick switching to your frommer stop

>>168924631
I see, thanks.

I can't switch weapons fast enough.

Actually I need to get better with aim. Been using all the automatics thus far so the sudden change to bolt action isn't helping

>>168924746
As someone who uses the infantry rifles whenever I can (IE when I feel like I can get away with playing scout and dont have to carry as a more useful class to win) at least personally for me they're guns that you have to use quite a bit to get a feel for and you kinda have to use them exclusively if you want to get the absolute max out of them. Switching back and forth between scoped rifles and infantry versions messes me up a bit and I notice my aim being slightly off

switching will become reflex. I don't even wait to see if the shot hits, I know it instinctively and the pistol is already out and firing

play around with the zoom settings as well, find the one thats most comfortable. This can make a big difference

>>168922390
where is your proof that the chauchar is 3 - 5btk

>>168917674
Always use medic packs, never use the crates.

>>168888158
But anon, Autoloading 8 .25 Extended is the real master race.

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>>168929565
>8 .25

>>168929565
why packs

>>168929851
doesn't constrain movement, can throw so far that you can heal someone on the opposite alley across an amiens street

>>168929362
right here in my pants ;)

>>168930237
Nice thanks

it will be a 4 - 6btk

How can the average player be so fucking bad, christ. It honestly feels like half of the server is filled with literal bots.

>>168930674
t. video game pro

>>168930914
well, I did make money from other games. not shooters, but I am, in fact, very good at the game. not trying to brag, but top 0,1% easily

>>168931330
I too lie on the internt

>>168931425
t. wageslave nu-male beta cuck normie who can't fathom that there are people who don't have a 0,5KD and 200SPM like him

>>168931532
I'll have you know I have over 300 confirmed kills with the BAR

Can't those cunts just fix the gewerhr 98 empty reload?
There's still a bullet there you fucking cucks
Did anyone else noticed this?
It bogs me

if your KPM is under 2 you should pretty much just uninstall, youre a lost cause

>>168932987
>uninstall
t. PC pro
Real men play console

Whyy can't I see the battlepacks I'm earning? Literally says could not load battlepacks but I'm playing online just fine.

>>168932904
But you clear the chamber when you pull the bolt back to stick in the new clip?

>>168934370
you can only collect your earned battlepacks while buying 5$ worth of battlepacks now. they are sort of freebies

>>168935024
You better be memeing me

>>168934951
In the animation of a empty reload
When the soldier pulls the bolt open you can see a bullet inside just like in a single bullet reload.
Then it just puts the clip of 5 in there
The right thing would be for the gun to be empty when you fire all 5 rounds right?
Didn't get your question.

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>Heals
>Resupplies
>Bullet resistant
>2 shot kill rifle
>Starts with a horse

Cavalry is literally the best.

>>168935626
I guess I just don't see the bullet in the chamber on xbox, looks empty to me.

>>168936595
Dude
I'm even more pissed
I play in the ps4
Getting real tired of this shit
Also
I'm talking about the infantry version

>>168890552
>>168894248
Face it, you're just an angsty contrarian wanting to use shitty weapons and claim they're good. I'd say the kolibri is worse but at least it provides comic relief and humiliating kills. The autoloading is completely inferior to the 1906 and even then they both suck dick because of the pitiful mag size. Even if you're aimbotting the most people you can kill at any given time per strip clip is 2. Hahaha holy shit your gun of choice sucks man.

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>>168930241
>>168930369
>>168929362

http://forum.symthic.com/battlefield-1-general-discussion/battlefield-1-cte-discussion/11118-cte-20-2-2017-changelog-and-weapon-stats/

Right under the chauchat

3shot out to 12m
4shot out to 30m
5shot past 30m

>>168929565
>Autoloading 8 .25 Extended
disgusting

>autisticos faggots literally BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT

holy fuck I NEED this patch NOW, this is absolutely amazing. I cant wait to see the huge stream of tears of shitters who thought they were hot shit using a crutch weapon

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Rate it you memers

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>>168938235
>she thinks this """nerf""" will have any impact

>>168937124
True I run with the carbine. Do you even see any spent casings coming out of the rifle when he chambers a new round? I got nothin.

>>168938451
>>168938451
Very rarely
The whole game is well done but the let the coolest things buggy
For a game with better spent case mechanics

>>168938235
Am i the only one that thinks the autistico was never really that great? I mean, its only good for 1v1 in close range.

>>168935804
Agreed tbqh

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Stat comparing time, motherfuckers

>>168929647
>>168938093
Wait, what's wrong with the .25 extended?

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>>168940120
Post vehicles too
Cavalry master race here

Fucking PC CTE fags getting access to the DLC even earlier than they're supposed to. I paid good money for this premium pass, and I haven't even got that community mission battlepack yet.

>>168941018
well otherwise they would be doing work for dice for free

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>>168940120

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>>168844497
Will the DLC save Battlefield 1?
Its quite clear that Battlefield Youtubers aren't having fun as BF4 and are playing Siege instead.
Shame I love BF1 for it WW1 setting

>>168942526
nothing will save the game from having zero depth and being designed for console casuals

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>>168940120
>>168941791
You are like little baby

>>168942526
absolutely DLC will save it

in a year I expect the game to be better than BF4 ever was, problem is most people are extremely impatient and will likely have given up on it before dlc packs can come out

>we live in the age of incomplete games being released at full price and then having the privilege of telling ourselves "at least the DLC will fix it for sure pls take more of my money"

I want to go back to 1999.

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>>168945146
>BAR babby
No skill whatsoever

>>168945551
I've actually switched to MG15 low weight and the Gewehr carbine as my go to guns now but its taking a while to catch up.

>>168945675
No need to be apologetic, m8 we're all friends here.
Aren't we?

>>168945231
>impatient
maybe not everyone wants to pay 120$ and wait a year until a game gets good

>>168946032
Until the thread dies

> Conquest


Empty map, Rambos wandering around aimlessly


> Operations


Only allowed to join games already half over on the losing team


> Rush

20 players


I want to like this game. How do you enjoy it?

>>168946836
64 player rush is retarded

vanilla cq maps are garbage because the flags are laid out in one long line with little room to flank, and the flanking routes are all death traps with very little cover or chokepoint bullshit like argonne

i dislike every single vanilla cq map in bf1. the only reason why i even play is because of friends

>>168947348
32 player rush is perfect though

>>168938442
>50% increased horizontal recoil

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

*breathes in*

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

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>>168940307
+1 tbqh

>>168947418
yeah 24 is a bit too small i guess but if you don't live in the us or eu, often the only rush maps you had in bf3/4 were 64 player meatgrinders

i just play cq with friends on bf1, as it is the easiest mode for people to play together without wasting 10 minutes on stupid bullshit like operations matchmaking, and having friends helps you forget how awful the bf1 cq maps are

>>168947441
wow I adjust my mouse a tiny bit further

automatico users BTFO how will I ever recover protip I can't

>>168947685
it's hrecoil, not vrecoil. you can't compensate for hrecoil for every shot

>>168947898
I'll buy an aimbot or something idc

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>no one plays BC2

>>168948104
desu broken guns make a game fun

the autismal balancing on the bf1 guns makes none of them particularly exciting

i want to take the German Supports stupid helmet and throw it away in the river

>>168948351
BC2 didn't have some pretty unbalanced shit. In hardcore especially slugged shotguns were absurd. No drop or spread, OHK at any range, you got to keep the crosshairs because there were no iron sight

Also frags rounds from bf3/4. if you had height advantage on anyone you can just wreck them even at ranges snipers have trouble with. You could shoot light vehicles and choppers and kill the people inside if you knew the maps you knew the right corners and ceilings to shoot and tag people in cover.

>>168948351
well, thats what happens when you BF4 fags didnt stomp and discredit the symthic autists as shitters, so they got hired by DICE and now they're literally completely in charge of weapon balancing

from what I've heard and read the BF4 BFG platoon got bullied by SYM, pretty embarrassing

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>>168947458
>>168945146
r8, pls no hate

BARbro here, redpill me on the MG15

>>168949706
Low weight MG is good on almost all ranges. The bipod makes it a monster, and even at close ranges its pretty strong. BAR is like the assault class machine gun people wanted really, doesnt fit the LMG role as well.

>>168948360
Why throw something that they really used in the early stages of the war?

>>168949631
> pilot rank 50

REEEEEEE

Seriously though, how did you get that high so fast?

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>>168948926
i had some fun using frags on a scout chopper but they weren't particularly overpowered in bf4 and they were nerfed to oblivion in bf3

the sraw, now that thing was fun as hell and maybe a little bit too good. but dice la hates fun so here we are

>>168950102
companion just factors in all points you've ever got on the class instead of counting from rank 10 since the update

>>168950102
>Seriously though, how did you get that high so fast?
Technically i didnt, its glitched. It counts all my work pre update. In game im rank 19 pilot. Also, im a damn good one. I pop flares, spot, and take out enemy aircraft first, THEN i fuck with infantry. I've turned the tide in many games of operations on my own i tell ya hwat.

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>>168944190
Battlefront reskin I've been saying it since the beta too bad fags still bought it regardless

>>168950438
oh shit, I'm just now realizing I'm level 42 medic all of the sudden.
I remember them explicitly saying that everyone would just start at level 10 and have to rank up from there no matter how much xp they had before the patch. did they change their minds or did they do it like that by accident?

>>168951301
It's nothing like battlefront though. Battlefront is way more fun.

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Holy shit this new phantom program shit is complicated. I ain't got time to learn morse code

>>168951360
they just didn't bother coding bf1 companion to reflect class rank correctly

in the actual game, you'll still have to start from level 10

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>>168951360
It's a weird bug that it calculates your rank outside of games but once you're in game you can check your rank while customizing loadouts.

>>168950104
>not particularly powerful

wut, they were only weak when you ran into someone at close range, pretty much everything will out DPS you. Other than that the huge amount of suppression would throw peoples aim off and you only had to be aiming in the general vicinity of them to be doing damage. They really needed a good understanding of map layout to take full advantage, just like regular shotguns I guess.

Who /mini-grenade/ here?

You get TWO and the EXPLODE like real grenades, but you can throw them across the whole map

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>It's a your whole team goes one way and leaves the most used flank ass out to the enemy episode

>>168950438
>>168950462
Oh good, I was going to be pissed because I've got almost 3 million medic score and I'm only level 14.

>>168954853
> that little crevice in Argonne forest on the opposite side of the train tracks from the 3 door bunker entry

WHY DOES NO-ONE EVER WATCH THAT REEEEE

>>168955248
strange, in my experience. that chokepoint usually has a few dudes throwing hundreds of grenades into it hoping someone on the other side actually dares to try and run through

>>168954853
>It's a your team can't hold the objectives nearest to your own spawn episode

I'm looking at you Empire's Edge

>>168956343
There's always a memester or two who does nothing but try to backcap those spawns.

I really wish spawn beacons were a things. So many maps have certain areas that would be perfect for them.

>>168949631
unironically neck yourself fighter faggot

Red pill me on CTE weapon changes

>>168956890
t. attack plane cuck who has to hold back tears when thinking about how far it has fallen from the beta days

>>168956669
I spend way too much time trying to deal with these shitheads
>jumps out of a plane
>rides a motorcycle/armored car
>BOATS, BOATS EVERYWHERE
Why do fucking boats respawn so fast???

Empire's Edge again
>Lock the doors of the bunker on A
>Hiding in one of one hundred places on G

>>168955248
That bunker on ops is ridiculous. Its almost hilarious how one support with an ammo crate can cause the biggest grenade spam possible, making it nearly impossible to get through the bunker.

>>168957079
>implying I'd ever stoop myself down to the subhuman cuck level of using planes outside of air taxis to get to flags

kys

>>168957106
I was doing some work on my laptop, so I went to G, hid inside that little cellar in the wall behind the barrels in the dark, still able to cap the point. then just sat there for about 20 minutes while I worked, looking around a little bit to make sure I didn't get kciked for inactivity. pretty much held G the whole map and they would come back in force, recap and leave and I'd slowly cap it again.

Spawn beacons would totally change the way I play several maps. Almost all of them have a shitload of good hiding spots really close to points that people otherwise ignore.

>>168957590
pls keep using attack planes, ez targets for me. guarantees my air superiority. Best game ever was 105-2 thanks to attacucks like you not challenging me.

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>each console has 2-3 times as many players online as the PC
it's just not fair bros

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>>168960152
Come, join us

>>168958115
Fighter is by far the best anti infantry plane, there is nothing the attack plane does better than the trench guns. the attack plane is only good for the anti tank loadout. if you have a gunner on point no fighter can ever shoot you down because the rear gun just shreds vs the fighters HMG's.

So basically unless there is armour on the map that needs clearing AND you have a dedicated rear gunner there is no point in not using the trench fighter.

bombers are just so fucking slow that even with decent front adn rear gunners i feel like in the time I do 1 bombing run I could've done several trench runs and actually gotten some kills, plus dropped flares. Trying to hit a tank that is moving using the bomber is a shitshow because if they are perpendicular to your approach trying to move the bomber onto them and adjust is just awful.

>>168961857
Bomber is actually the best in the game if you got buddies. That being said, the rear gunner isnt too much of a threat if you're a good fighter. I like to come at an angle and clip the wing quickly so the shooter cant get a steady shot.

>>168961857
attack planes with good rear gunners don't exist anyway. people who play with friends pick the bomber so the gunner doesn't fall asleep and can switch seats when needed. in attack planes it's just a random squadmate who joins, sprays a minute on the ground and bails out of boredom

>>168962738
the bomber is just too slow. Say the enemies have an attack plane with the anti tank loadout. The shells do a ton of damage and you don't have to hold steady behind the bomber and expose yourself to the rear gunner, you can dive in from an angle, hit once and come back for another pass, meanwhile your rear gunner has 360 degree movement and can be dishing out pain the entire time. Also the slowness of the bomber makes it easy prey for AA or even a few supports with machine guns. Like you said it's very easy to damage a wing even with the fighters pea shooter.

it's almost better to use the bomber like an AC130. forget bombing runs just fly in a way that allows your front gunner to do all the damage.

Is there a clear date as to when the new DLC is actually coming out?

>>168963954
yeah

>>168963490
in pub games, it's never safe to switch seats on the bomber thanks to random pubbies spawning in and refusing to leave the front gun seat. the best angle to attack a bomber is sideways anyway so the back gun isn't that useful

if you're up against a competent fighter pilot, the bomber absolutely needs fighter support or it's just going to get obliterated before it can do anything useful

>>168963878
it's very easy for the bomber front gunner to kill aa guns and supports if he's communicating with a good pilot. the bombs are half the point of using the bomber as anti-armour is way more valuable than anti-infantry, as a matter of fact, the bomber should focus on killing troublesome armour first and farm infantry second

the bomber crew shouldn't be trying to engage air but let fighter support handle it instead. vs the ground, it's unmatched but trying to handle air battles by itself is suicide

>>168963878
Thats what i meant, ive seen bomber gunner videos with 200 kills per match.

>>168921432
Use spot flare as an infantryman. Literally the easiest thing in the world. I suggest Frommer Spot and K-bullets as well, also trench mace as melee because it has the fastest kill times behind the back.

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>>168940120
r8 m8 no h8

>>168964262
people on the ground must've been totally braindead

I feel like overall the bomber is only as good as the other team allows. You can fly it well, communicate and get a good bunch of kills, but there are just too many hard counters. A single squad communicating and focusing their regular weapons fire on aircraft is more effective AA than the emplacements or AA truck and are far more difficult to stop. if you do take AA hits if it's coming from behind you can stop it, just eat the damage as you fly away.

The fighter has a high skill ceiling, as far as map awareness, knowing timing for plane respawns, knowing how to actually dogfight, planning your trench runs and keeping an eye on AA's. The attack plane has a similar ceiling, but relies on another player at certain times. With the bomber you have to hope your gunners aren't retarded, hope the other pilots will protect you and to a lesser extent hope the people on the ground don't just get fed up and focus you.

>>168965312
Will do. Been running with periscope but that seems better with an actual marksman/sniper variant.

>>168965730
do you want me to be harsh and real or nice and fake

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>>168967278
shoot

>>168966173
the bomber should never be used without a communicating gunner and pilot, and if they're communicating, the gunner can take out any infantry shooting at it with ease

the main advantage of the bomber is that its the only plane that can do both anti-infantry and anti-armour roles very well, if your team already has fighter support covered, it's a no-brainer to pick the bomber

if you don't have a friend to gun or fly for you, then tough luck i guess

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>>168956961

>Rothschilds bow to Heavy Tanks
>In contact with fighter planes
>Possess psychic-like accuracy
>Control france with an iron but fair fist
>Own fortresses & fields globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient factory production line
>Will win the first battle on frontlines ( rupture will be be the first map)
>Own 99% of loadout editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be heavy tank babies
>both deployable tankers said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Amiens & Ballroom blitz
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of two tanks who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of suffering and unprecedented technological progress with them
>They own infantry R&D labs around the world
>You likely have tanks outside you right now
>The heavy tanks are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Infantry scum. Who do you think set up the meeting between the Supports & the Assault high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Assault leader's first trip to Dlc in game literally a few days later to the fort vaux bunkers in Verdun, France.

>>168968117
two unfunny memes for the price of one

>>168938301
Shit except for win rate. Congratulations, you get carries.

>>168886720
It's a 3 hit kill, 35 damage per shot

>>168964215
Well, when is it?

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>>168963954
From Dice? Don't make me laugh.

>>168970476
how would I know

I can't wait until there's a real reason to choose lmgs over other weapon classes. Mandragons and selbstladers perform well at mid range without needing to deploy a bipod, assault weapons dominate close range, and snipers fill out both mid range and long range being easier to use than ever with sweet spots and iron sights variants. What the hell are you supposed to do with these things besides rush with the BAR?

>>168973715
My top class is support and I have over 2k kills with the Lewis suppresive.
On operations you can just deploy the bipod and hold off an entire wave of attackers/defenders. You can even take out snipers, they wilk be to suppressed to shoot back.

>>168974683
>spray 20-30 rounds at a stationary target with a restrictive bipod mechanic
>click on them 3-4 times with a medic gun
The damage comes out so slow you're just gimping yourself, you don't even need to suppress snipers with a medic gun because every shot will actually land on target and you don't need to expose yourself for so long to kill someone.

Why did all of my scraps get reset to 0 i had like 500 and could easily get to 900 by scrapping shit skins.

>>168975560
Good luck trying to control choke points with your 5 rounds per clip selbstlader.

Are the servers stil offline?

REEEEEEEEEE

>>168975951
literally came here to say this

the 5rd rifles should've had their damage boosted, recoil significantly increased and be put in the scout class. They are terrible run and gun weapons.

So who here will be getting the premium pass or already has?

>>168976927
I bought it. Too expensive desu.

>>168976927
I bought it when they threw in the deluxe items for free. I put a ton of time into BF1 and I wanna play the dlcs asap. So to me it is worth.

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pic of me and my squad I don't I need to point out who I'm am silly boys :^)

don't you just hate it when your team ignore every flag other than E and F on fao fortress..
its like whoever captures those two flags loses, its a trap.. people never learn.

>>168977965
B and C are a deathtrap though. It's much easier to cap other flags and push onto them rather than the other way around. You spawn out in the open and it's a shooting gallery.

>>168978953
see you gotta hope to get a balance, this might be one of the only maps with a strategy to it

you could either trap most of the average player base in the fortress who are too silly to just use their home deployment, or you can try that shooting gallery idea and capture the points around those two open spots

Fap Fortress is a shitty map for conquest imo though, one of those maps that just have Rush and Operations in mind

>>168976927
>he didn't buy premium when it was 30% off
i don't think ea has ever done a sale on premium before then

>>168963490
I always want to jump into vehicles and man the guns and help my teammates out, but goddamn it's so fucking boring. Especially in tanks. At least in airplanes you can take pot shots at ground troops when you fly by, but in tanks they always just sit on some hill for 15 minutes until an objective has already been cleared out and then they move in.

>>168982646
if the driver is not a complete retard you can usually get some work done in the landship. Fucking everyone always picks the A7V though.

>>168968117
Got a chuckle out of me

>>168982820
because the heavy breakthrough is better than the landship for vehicle crew shenanigans, unless you want to sacrifice anti-infantry for anti-tank, then you can pick the tank hunter landship

I've grown to appreciate Huot for its absurd accuracy. It also made me realize just how many shots I miss when spray&praying with other lmgs. The reload is still painfully long though. I wish DICE would do something about it in the future.

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_live/comments/5vatcm/battlefield_1_cte_patch_2_xp1/?st=IZFI7P18&sh=ef0159b6

Grenades regenerate now apparently

>>168984034
wait what were the resupply timers on grenades before, if they only made them longer by like 2 seconds and added grenade regeneration i don't see how this doesn't make grenade spam worse

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>>168984034
>reduced smoke to 1
>non-support classes will know be even more prone to throwing grenades because they know they will get one back sooner or later anyway
>make ammo pouches a pointless pick

ILHBDEKLBSWDBFG:W

>>168984034
>The goal for these changes is to reduce the amount of grenades available while getting constantly resupplied, as it is common in choke points, without making resupplies unnecessarily long in other gameplay
>the stationary ammo crate that doesn't immediately disappear on use makes grenades regen 3 times faster
>the mobile ammo pack that disappears when used and has a longer cooldown between uses doesn't do anything
is dice literally retarded?

>>168984034
>AA cannons:

>Removed blast and impact impulse to prevent them from pushing and rotating planes
>Reduced impact damage to planes by 50% for fighters and attack planes and by 40% for bombers

Ahaha what the fuck

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>>168985682
>Airchavs get a THIRD AA nerf again

>hellriegel got nerfed yet again for the fifth.. sixth. shit bois i lost count

>>168984034

>Trying hard to ruin nades again like they did in BF4
>Nerfing AA
>More nerfs for the few fun guns to use in the game
>Instead of buffing bad guns they nerf good ones
>Still no buffs for the AT rocket
>Still indirectly buffing planes and not adding ways for infantry to not get farmed by them

I hate dice

>>168985682
Jesus Fucking Christ they might as well just remove AA from the game at this point. Why the fuck do they keep catering to plane faggots? ?

>let's fix grenadespam by heavily nerfing one of supports gadgets and making grenades auto regen allowing players to fire and forget

>oh yeah this nerf also hurts a source of resupplies

>also lets nerf every LMGs hipfire spread
I'm convinced dice hates support players. The chauchat better be strong enough to make up for the constant nerfs.

>>168988409
> all those people on leddit defending the aa nerf

Are we even playing the same game?

When is the CTE going up today?

>>168988317
how would they buff the AT rocket? I don't assault often but when I do I use that shit constantly and if anything, it's OP

>>168989858
it's just airchavs. funny how they were yelling the loudest when for once in a Battlefield game the AA was actually good and they couldn't just go 70-0 every game.

now it gets nerf after nerf and whenever someone dares to suggest the idea that planes might be a bit too strong they crawl out of their flying farm machines with epic arguments such as using infantry LMGs or "teamplay" without any further specification.

>>168991134
not him but maybe they could increase the damage done to tanks, but make the sweet spot narrower as well as increase the likelihood of a ricochet. Force people to get a good angle on you. Maybe reduce splash damage to stop people using it like a greande launcher+sniper rifle combo.

>>168988409
AA was not a good counter to planes before this patch anyway. I don't really think it will change much. The counter to planes has always been other planes.

CTE BOYZZZZZZ, go to bf forums and give ur feedback

>>168991807
as if that ever changed anything

>>168991807
every infantry player across all platforms stating that maybe the Trench Fighter is just a bit op still wouldn't get anything done.

>>168991134

The AT rocket is a joke, terrible, you can buff it by..

>Allowing firing from a standing position or at least crouched
>Fix all the invisible walls that make you blow yourself up when deploying it
>Increase damage on heavy tanks
>Increase projectile speed
>Decrease projectile drop
>Bring back mobility crits and rear damage bonuses

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>>168991938
believe

>>168992556
>Allowing firing from a standing position or at least crouched
stopped reading there, incredibly dumb idea that will never be implemented because it would never be balanced. so basically you want the rocket gun to be much more effective noob tube?

Opinions on the vehicle spawn selection change?
I think it's fine because people aren't changing loadouts much anyways and it makes it more fair for those without ultra-fast loading times.

>>168994960
>so basically you want the rocket gun to be much more effective noob tube?
way to put words into someone's mouth you strawmanning fucktard

>>168995065
>I want to be able to fire an AT rocket gun while standing
how on earth would that be anything else than a noob tube that deals much more damage?

some people are so fucking retarded I just have a hard time imagining how they cope in life

>>168995228
>>168994960

How do you think people fired RPGs in all the prior BF titles you fucking retard? They sure as hell didn't have to deploy a bipod to do so.

>>168995990
vehicles were also much more mobile, were far deadlier and had countermeasures available.

>>168996384

Vehicles in BF1 have far more firepower, countermeasures, and utility. They also have far less counters in that the AT rocket is garbage, AT nades have a short range, there is very little verticality to maps, Dynamite is trash, Limpets are slightly less trash than Dynamite, Mines are rare and easily spotted, and only the Bomber can do damage to tanks.

Having to deploy a bipod to shoot the AT rocket is moronic, especially considering it does 14 damage if you get lucky and don't have the shot deflect.

>>168995990
>RPG weighs around 15-25 pounds
>AT rocket weighs ~50 pounds without the tripod

>>168996891
>MG08/15 weighs 20KG
>some dude in heavy armor walks around firing it
hmm, almost like a video games are not real life....

>>168991807
So, the DLC content is on CTE servers RIGHT NOW, right?

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>>168997034
clearly it is power armor, which is why you die instantly to bladed weapons, they disable it and you die from the weight of the armor

>>168995990
first off, you already said you wanted the AT rocket gun to get a faster projectile speed while it's already much faster than an rpg.
you also said you wanted less bullet drop while it already has much less drop than the noob tube

in conclusion, you want the AT rocket gun to be a gadget that has faster projectile speed than the RPG, much more damage than the noob tube and much less bullet drop than the noob tube.

>guys it'll totally be balanced

you're probably one of those retards who thinks the automatico should be buffed

>>168997310
>you're probably one of those retards who thinks the automatico should be buffed
feel free to stop strawmanning, oh wait, that'ts your only known way of "discussing" things

nigger

>>168997375
>responded to nothing I said except the last sentence, that wasn't even a part of the argument
>"haha, u are the one strawmanning and not me"

>>168997310
>first off, you already said you wanted the AT rocket gun to get a faster projectile speed while it's already much faster than an rpg.

Are you trolling? From your statements thus far I'm guessing you either are trolling, didn't play BF3 or 4, are a tankwhore, are underage, or all of the above.

>>168997723
are you trying to tell me it doesn't have a faster projectile speed than an RPG?

>>168998059

It's much slower than BF4 RPGs and has an insane amount of drop compared to them.

>M1903 Experimental rate of fire reduced
>improved close range damage

Not sure how I feel about this.

>>168997375
>have retarded opinions
>get called out for it
>"hurr you a strawman"


Are you Brazilian or something?

>>168998238
I think DICE is afraid of any gun in the game actually being good. For whatever reason they think they have to nerf a stat when they buff one

Post player stereotypes beyond "Tanker/Pilot with 70+ stars who never spawns outside a vehicle"

>support who just HAS to use the mortar at all times, from on top of buildings or just over the hill from where you're standing

>rank 3, level 4-15 scout who lays prone with the 1895 sniper on EVERY map and kills you once a round, then vanishes.

>>168996681


tanks have exactly zero countermeasures in BF1, smoke is not a countermeasure, there are not lockons to break and you move so slowly it's completely obvious where you are in the smoke anyway. Some loadouts have a free repair button, most only have free repair only if your tracks break. apparently gravity is 10x stronger because drop on almost every weapon is absurd, that's if your rounds don't simply vanish after a set distance anyway. only certain vehicles have 360 degree aiming and then only with the right loadout. gunners are always limited in what they can do. dropping ammo/health is not utility that's dice trying to include SOMETHING else to make certain loadouts not feel like worthless shit.

>>168998990

>tanks have exactly zero countermeasures in BF1
Oh really? Let's begin then.

>smoke is not a countermeasure
While smoke may not have been useful in previous BF iterations on vehicles it actually does quite a lot in BF1, it breaks your marker and makes it very hard to hit you due to how shitty the infantry counters to vehicles are. Landing an AT nade into smoke is very difficult and landing a non ricochet rocket is even more so.

>there are not lockons to break and you move so slowly it's completely obvious where you are in the smoke anyway.
Tanks still move at a very brisk pace and all you need is to reposition slightly to cause ricochet rockets or simply move a few feet to avoid grenades.

>Some loadouts have a free repair button, most only have free repair only if your tracks break.
Every loadout worth using has a free repair button that heals mid combat, instantly. ALL vehicles can be repaired from the inside by the driver at no cost other than sitting still, this is insanely powerful as it means tanks can't be stolen and you can defend yourself while repairing, SOLO.

>apparently gravity is 10x stronger because drop on almost every weapon is absurd
Aiming isn't really hard, you can just use the shotgun to get free 1shot kills on infantry up to insane ranges anyway.

that's if your rounds don't simply vanish after a set distance anyway.
They don't.

>only certain vehicles have 360 degree aiming and then only with the right loadout. gunners are always limited in what they can do.
This is why you point the tank in the right direction and have up to FIVE extra gunners to protect you. With how little damage the heavy tanks take from infantry counters it really doesn't matter all that much to begin with, just don't drive into a wall and sit there like a moron.

>>168999748
tanks are slow, have you even driven tanks in prior BF games? MBTs are far more nimble than even the light tank and arty truck. smoke can sometimes cover you if you are at a distance, but if they are in AT grenade range forget it, the smoke just makes it harder to see them so you can kill them.

free heal does what, 25 health?

one gunner can cover 25% of the tank. you literally never have 5 gunners for any real stretch of time and it would be a waste of your teammates to do so. the gunner has no third person camera so vision is obscured. you have to be on a slanted angle to get the best from your gunners.

tanks are, like the bomber, clunky pieces of shit that only farm infantry because the majority of players would rather play scout and meme on other infantry instead of taking out armour. A focused tank in 1 gets shredded by multiple assaults because it simply cannot escape fast enough and has nothing to protect itself. hell even a couple of scouts with K rounds can make life very difficult for a tank. to which this is no counter whatsoever. a tank in prior games, even while focused could be extremely difficult to kill.

>>169001187
post your stats, you sub 1KD shitter

>>169001538
http://bf1stats.com/ps4/diddymal

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>>168940120
r8 h8
masturb8

>>169001187

>tanks are slow, have you even driven tanks in prior BF games?
Tanks don't have to be race cars now that they are actual damage sponges

>smoke...
Smoke is amazing because AT nades have a very small radius and throw range so you only have to pop smoke and barely move to avoid them, and you use the smoke to cover your escape, not engage in battle you mongoloid.

>free heal does what, 25 health?
25-33% of your health bar is fucking MASSIVE, it's enough to negate nearly 3 AT rockets and an AT nade and a half. If you use your repair properly it means no solo Assault can ever kill you because he simply doesn't have enough ammo.

>one gunner can cover 25% of the tank...
You switch seats, high level strats I know holy fuck.

>tanks are, like the bomber, clunky pieces of shit that only farm infantry because the majority of players would rather play scout and meme on other infantry instead of taking out armour.
Tanks are by no means clunky, they are firmly paced mass machines of mass murder that exist at the top of the food chain and have no direct counters.

>A focused tank in 1 gets shredded...
Now you're just going full retard, it's impossible to focus a tank because there is no cover to focus from, your only options are to lob in AT nades which can be hard to land and have a very very limited throw range, or to go prone and make yourself an easy target to try and fire a rocket. Tanks don't have to escape because they can kill with ease anyone who tries to stop them, deploying an AT rocket means you're dead if the tank is looking in your direction and in most cases you simply can't get into range to throw nades.

>a tank in prior games, even while focused could be extremely difficult to kill..
Tanks were very difficult to kill in BF4 but they are FAR harder to kill in 1

>>169003464
Well no shit you're a console player with low stats, just fucking stop.