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Best girl edition.


>New Information:
You can gain glory from killing revenants, these glory points are used for unique items/disguising yourself as another character

You can summon story NPCs such as Ginchiyo or Hanzo to complete levels with you.

Various factions based off historical Sengoku period houses exist for you to join, they each have unique stat benefits, rankings and weekly "faction battles"

>Various images and video from an incomplete playthrough

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2kimuai3qvfpt58/AABlTxra7Hl9wdxWX1xNuLPZa?dl=0

>What does each element do?
http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Status+Effects

Previous thread - >>168024447
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>>168062595
Saoirse is better
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>>168062678
no genitals
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You asked and I have heard your cries.
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Okatsu had a really cool fight. When's the next good axe?
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>>168062678
Spirit fuckers get out.
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Suzaku with (critical) effect stacking gives a ton of damage, you can easily go over +100% close combat damage.
From what I could tell the effect also apply to living weapon as long as its activated when your health is low (Suzaku does this automatically) so if your goal is to have the most ridiculous living weapon possible then this might be worth looking into. Suzaku's summon is also very strong, it flies around you in a circle then dives down and explodes, pushing around anyone near you.

Too bad Mototada's set is so heavy.
I respecced to use it, figuring I'd get used to playing with heavier equip load.
I stuck with it for one region but in the end I kinda regret it, playing without A agility made those missions less fun for me.
Maybe I'll try it again if I find light armor with good (critical) effects.
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so.. is there a max level? Or can I in theory play through the game multiple times and eventually get 99 in all stats?
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Wait can you upgrade green stuff to plus 5?
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>>168062846
Yes to both.
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>>168062772
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>>168062917
seems that way
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>DSP has 70 deaths up to spider mission
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>>168062846
experience gain slows right the fuck down the second you approach 100+
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How do I find proper builds instead of just pouring all my points into my main attack stat
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>>168063040
where and how?
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so i have my spirit to 40 and magic is to 20
only because the raikiri sword scaling for spirit. should i just respec and put spirit to 25 and i wont miss out on tons of damage from those 15 extra levels to spirit?
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They should have put dwarves in the game so some quests would have had more axes as rewards instead of everyone's fucking family sword they're throwing after you
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>>168063339
This is not Drifters.
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>host is lagging
>manage to ace nue anyway
>hop on elevator
>lag wave
>resolves itself with me at the top of the shaft and the host and elevator at the bottom
>die on impact
>>168062720
She has a mouth.
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Being able to block in the middle of combos makes all human fights slow and boring.
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So which guardian spirits work best with the talisman? I've only been using Enko so far desu.
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>Honda boss
fuck you too
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>>168063181
soul matching, retard.
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>>168063080
>He's the reason she can't have kids.
Wait what the fuck, I didn't get that implication from it.
That's kinda fucked up, I didn't expect that. One thing to imply rape but another to imply such brutal rape. Fucking hell.
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>>168063605

Why so rude?
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>host charges nue blindly
>gets absolutely destroyed within the first 5 seconds
Every time.
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>Drop blob boss first try
>Fight the blob the same way in the Twilight Mission
>Keep glitching out and falling between the blob and the dock

Man fuck this thisssssssss
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>having no real trouble with Umi-bozu
>suddenly get glitched off the pier by some shonky collisions
>well, no problem, I'll get those souls back easy with how laughable that boss is
>enter arena
>instantly get killed by a giant fucklaser that does like 20k damage
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Super Onryoki has a bit too much HP in the mission with surprise axe bro. Maybe it's my gear or the fact axe bro kept dying.
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>>168063725
helping for Nue is so shitty since you still have to go through that awful underground part after.
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where my spear bros at
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>>168063824
he does have a shit ton of HP. just kick him a shit ton and always revive axe bro when you are safe.
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>>168063669
because how did you upgrade normal items?

trying with a +0 divine and +1 divine and see what happens should be what you'd normally check first
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>>168063995
FuuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUCK
I got greedy and died on literally the last hit
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>>168063858
I'm literally doing this for that for goodies.
Respeced and want the perfect shit.
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>>168063862
respeccing I think
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>>168063862
Didn't get any replies so maybe you will do. Do you use the spear parry? The triangle skill I mean? What's the timing on that, I simply cannot get it to work, although sword parries are ezpz.
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am i retarded or do i have to use a homeward bone after you light the last fire in the umi-bozu level? i dont see a way to get back after you drop down from the overturned boat.
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>>168063481
I wonder how this will play out in pvp.
Hopefully some interesting guard breaking strategies emerge.
Maybe people will carry around a secondary weapon specifically for guard breaking with a lot of +Break and do ki pulse weapon switch attacks.
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Is it possible to get warrior of the west smithing texts?
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>>168064220
I had to use a travel talisman. I think you get one from a corpse when you drop down
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>>168062524
>To my knowledge.
Okay weeblord, nobody gives a fuck about your chink history studies.
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>>168064220
Had the same problem. I just sudoku'd my way out of there.
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>>168064220
There is a false wall with a talisman on it
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>>168064359
possible to get smithing texts for everything. Even masks. Good luck with that though
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>>168064220
Nurikabe
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>>168064359
drops off muneshige, good luck
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So how do I actually use respec books?
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Fuck, which clan do I join? Date, Toyotomi or Furuta?
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I can't beat the bird lady third boss sigh
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>tfw only like 6 people up here to co-op with
woshibit, you're my nigga though
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How hard is the Umi-bozu Twilight mission? I just did the other one which was level 30 and the mobs were pretty tough.
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>>168064495
>>168064454
thanks guys i forgot those things existed
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>enter first ng+ mission
>literally 10 minutes later full divine red demon set
nice endgame
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>>168064497
>>168064482
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>>168064553
Learn when to block and when to dodge.
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>its a host doesn't know to use the emote he JUST got from fuku episode
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>>168064729

To be fair I had that issue too. I didn't realize the emote menu had a scroll bar and I couldn't find sorry.
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>>168064727
I"m like level 19 or 20, am I too low a level?I feel like I do no damage
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Is there a point in saving the locks of hair? If you use the reincarnate to reset skills, do the benefits from those go away?
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>>168064681
+0 divine yea
literally shit gear
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Reminder to farm the "Squirming Sprites" Twilight mission to earn tons of purple tier crafting materials.

It's fucking mindless if you co-op it. You might even be able to pair off and complete the mission even faster by splitting up objectives.
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>>168063605
But you can't upgrade a normal green to +1-5? This is my question.
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Which consumables can be put in the storehouse?
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>fighting Oni scum
>breaks away to create rift
>summons giant wall dude
>cue music shift and anal-devastation
This things ranged pebbles almost one-shot me; any tips, or is retreating to the shrine my only option?
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>>168064914
No, they stay with you forever. Just use them as you obtain them
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>>168064482
>>168064359
>>168064497
>tfw got Red Oni Ii's Spear and Armor Texts on my second kill

I guess I should craft a set eh?
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>>168065196
Who the fuck drops the ninja set is what I want to know.
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>>168065152
I think I read somewhere that you can bow to the walldudes to let you pass
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>>168065339
walldudes respond to gestures. If you pick the right one out of two chances he'll let you pass.

The number of people I've been helping only for them to be obliterated is something else
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>>168065448
there are some that react after only one gesture
I think it's like this
correct one -> pass
opposite of correct if not neutral -> falls on you immediately
incorrect one but not opposite -> another chance
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>Bow to kappa
>Kappa doesn't bow back

This game was a mistake
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not ONE of the fucking people that summoned me for the sea blob yokai boss fight has survived. They either fall off, don't have the fires lit and die to the adds, or just get instant killed by the fuckhuge lazer...WHAT IS GOING ON!?
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>>168065326
Gee, 3 schools, warrior, ninja, and mage. I wonder.
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>>168065448
>>168065591

I don't get this. I've heard people mention the wall falls on you but if I end up messing up it just kinda starts a fight with me and it's extremely easy to kill. Am I doing something different?
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>Finish umi-bozu twilight mission
>get high level loot of every type of weapon and armor except 1kat which is my main
Fucking rng
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>>168065056
to upgrade from +0 to +5 you need divine gear already at +1 to +4
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>Toyotomi has more glory than the next 3 clans combined

What were they thinking with these bonuses? Some are just outright bad like the "your camp has to be losing for this to do anything" one.
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Anybody ever get a glitch where they stop dealing elemental damage entirely?

I had this while visiting the Umi-bozu mission. It was horrific.
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>>168064205
Spear parry is pretty much instant compared to kat so it's tighter
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is it true you can upgrade individual guardian spirits when you beat the gayme?
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>>168065657
the weapons too?
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>can't get to my PS4 at the moment because reason
>Decide to watch some streamers
>Everyone is playing fucking Nioh
>And they're so goddamn terrible at the game it's painful to watch
I refuse to believe people are this bad at video games.
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>just before cat boss an enemy drops the spear for the bull armor
>now have complete set
>beat boss on first try

I feel like spears are easy mode, the only one that gave me trouble was muneshige
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>>168066043
stop watching souls players
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>reforging getting brutally fucking expensive at higher levels

For fuck sake. Well, is there any way to make tons of gold? I didn't have a need for money up until now but I need a fuck ton of it now
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I like this game a lot but I'm fucking trash at it. I just got to the vampire boss and she's just beating my ass. It's the only thing so far that's felt really difficult to me.
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>>168066043
>>168066120
>the popular streamers dont even into souls games much
>they all play like absolute shit anyway and are raking in max cpm because its a new game
no point watching them. most i've seen spam heavy high stance moves
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>>168064818
No. The guy literally spent all his handcannon shots shooting it AND her from outside the door upon first seeing them, hit it 20 times, talked to her, without pausing hit it 8 more, had to be messaged what to do, then still takes 10 swings at both of them before he emotes.
He his from nue too and if I wasn't in this for the loot i'd have let him 1v1 the revanants he insisted on summoning.
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I feel a little dirty.

I just beat Nue without getting hit once. I just used the high stance heavy attack on the scythe and waited for him to do the laser attack, I'd step back out of the way then step in and heavy attack. And doing this he'd repeat the attack 3-6 times in a row. Then I'd just back away til he did it again, getting a few bonus hits in here and there.

Got the nue mask too
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>>168066025
Yes.
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>>168066320
And he dies to the cyclops outside pseudomune's room.
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>>168066338
You know during before the charge, during lightningbolts, and electric breath you can attack him to instantly drain all of his stamina immediately

>>168066134
Yoaki realm with a companion m8ty
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>>168066338
Some enemies do easily get caught in a loop.
The crow tengu too, if you dodge around him while attacking him he'll just do the spin kick over and over.
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>>168066531
does yogi realms give more money or something?
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>>168066531
I'm aware.

Id just always get blasted by his lighting when he regained his ki
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I did it lads, I beat the game.

Glad I ended up buying the game.
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Holy fuck that Tachibana & Honda fight was awful.
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>>168066134
Take the loot drop kodama blessing, play missions with lots of trash mobs, and use a loot drop guardian spirit. Ignore revenants because you don't get money for killing them, and they're not worth the time it takes to kill them unless they're a high stance spamming bum that are basically asking to be countered to death (and you can't guarantee that they are). Destroy mobs as fast a possible, and sell the garbage. If you're not trying to level up, feel free to purple branch out and leave your amrita behind if you can't be fucked to beat the boss.
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>cheesing bosses with sloth and carnage with flame buffed lmao2kats

So this is the power of being a shitter
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>>168066531
>Yoaki realm with a companion m8ty

sorry, what ?
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>>168066718
Better yet
>cheesing bosses with sloth and carnage and a neverending living weapon
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>>168063059
>DSP did better against some bosses than me
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>>168066627
I haven't checked but it certainly is faster. After that you just sell all epic and below items and save your divines for important shit
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DON'T DO THIS TO ME GAME
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>>168066838
Tell me your full shitter ways
What is this neverending living weapon?
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Few quick questions:
>How useful are certain stats outside of your weapon(s) of choice?
>How critical is it to misspend skill points, ie. for weapons you don't use?
>Everything said and done, is it better to go for variety/utility over min/maxing?
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>>168066919
use the talisman that gives amrita on hit and blast away while your living weapon is active and it will keep refilling from all those hits
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>>168062595
Still fucking waiting for ebay to deliver the game. Wtf had it preo-ordered for a month ffs
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>>168066950
Moderately to incredbily. Strength and Skill give you better ki pulses and ki pulse recovery white gauge speed which ties directly into your offense. Body and Heart give you life. Stamina and Strength raise your equipment. Spirit and Magic can aid with defense using certain gear.

The only two stats you could get away with not throwing points into is dexterity and magic. But you'll still need at LEAST 9 magic for post game shit.
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>somehow roll change to attack body and change to attack skill on the same 2kat
>only use skill cause body's a shit stat outside reqs.
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>>168066971
Ah I saw that, but never thought it would work.
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>>168066904
CUTE
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Anyone up for some co-op? Shit at vidya and reached a point where Oni kick my shit in cause there's too many in the immediate area.
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>>168066904
Tome wants that big irish-english dick, look at that eye.
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>>168066904
What did she mean by this?
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>>168065819
ok so you can only use gear you have and you can only upgrade with souls matching thanks.
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>>168064352
I already do this, low kusa to mid 1kat. stacking para/poison from kusa and using elemental damage buffs on the sword. I fight almost exclusively with ki damage when using 1kat, it's crazy powerful on men and still kills most yokai. The series of rapid slashes from the kusa (the skill, guard and triangle I think) does so much fucking damage from behind.
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>>168066904
Gonna bring her on a ship and show her the big European tower.
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>>168067125
Not that Anon, but you can basically tank through the final boss without ever going out of Living Weapon
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>>168066950
forgot to answer the question
>>Everything said and done, is it better to go for variety/utility over min/maxing?
Yes and no. Soft caps happen really early, but if you want everything from your desired playstyle niche you'll be still pumping points into that stat forever.
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>>168066904
>tfw fell in love with a fictional character again
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>>168062772
Where is it?
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>>168066971
>use the talisman that gives amrita on hit
That just a random drop or you get it from somewhere ?
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>>168063813
With only +10 vs water, it can't one shot me. get better gear/put some fucking points in body.
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>boss fight in poison mines

Whoever though of this need to commit sudoku desu. I don't even feel bad about abusing the pathfinding and doing nothing but drop attacks.
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>>168067306
this is what I did coincidentally. I had to downgrade my tactics because 3 kelly was whooping my ass
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>>168065196
I've been fighting Li all day and haven't gotten shit.
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What's the point in wearing light armor? I notice no difference in movement speed from A to B
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>>168067438
>Abusing
You mean intended.
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>>168065653
That's why I don't random queue. I got it a few times and generally I'll put fire on, attack him and notice boss is firing towards other side of arena. Summoner is hiding over the other side letting me kill it. He'll eventually get some courage and attack it while running off the side.

They always have a spear too
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>>168067306
How do you get your ki guage to recover like that? I didn't realize it was possible, thought it only ticked down.
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>>168067463
It's Ii. not Li.
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>>168067419

>put some fucking points in body
>body
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>>168067546
it recovers whenever you pick up amrita
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>large amount of damage
On what planet
Even with the most specialized build I can think of this shit hits for shit
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>>168067654
Oh, I remember seeing that talisman ability in the Onmyo tree. Thanks friendo.
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Are enemies more aggressive in twilight missions? The tengu that was basically the boss in that rat spirit mission was kind of a joke in comparison to the ones that were just regular enemies in the lickitung monk twilight mission.
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>>168067438
It's easy shit
I just hugged the right side and hit like 4-6 of its body parts at once again and again while fire talisman'd

It's still not a good fight but it is very easy
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>>168067291
>good eye
G-grandpa-sama! Not in front of the children!
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>cheese the shit out of Ii
>"hurr i will recognise your skill as samurai"
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So, now that the dust has settled, what do you guys think of the game?

Gameplay is fun for the most part but many areas are too similar, enemy variety is shit and some of the bosses are Lords of the Fallen tier bad. 7.5/10 imo
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>doing some coop
>spawn in, host is on the other side of the map right next the the boss area
>wants me to go all the way over to him before he starts the fight

Why are these cunts so fucking stupid holy shit.
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>>168066950
1) Most stats have a secondary bonus besides weapon damage, so they're good for whatever secondary purpose they have. Some are incredible (Ki is more important than health) while others are eh (Weight limit is almost always a non-issue).

2) The game will THROW skills points your way, and they are, theoretically, infinite anyways. You won't miss four or five skill points.

3) Most of the min/maxing comes from baller ass gear rather than your actual stat build due to low soft caps, but Dex gives you access to the utility that is ninja tools, and Magic is broken as all hell at the moment (to the point where I'm predicting a nerf). Spirit is the one stat I do recommend getting to 25 regardless of your weapon of choice/build, if only because Guardian Spirit bonuses are fucking spectacular, and more living weapon never hurt anyone.
That being said, you will always be gaining Amrita, and there isn't anything else to do with it besides level up, so you'll always be dumping your extra levels into your preferred stat(s).


>>168067402
It's in the Onmyo skill tree, not a dropped/bought consumable.
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>>168066697
kusa and 1kat can both put down revenants fast as fuck. I've been gaining glory through a variety of methods trying to find the quickest. pretty sure it's random encounter spam and praying for no retards
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>>168067730
Agressive not really but twilight missons have boosted yokai stats
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What's the fastest way to get proficiency with each weapon?
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>Have to fight either Nobunagavamd his wife or muneshige and the other guy

WTF IS THIS BULLSHIT
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>>168067798
WE
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>>168068029
Kill things
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>>168067839
8.5 with NG+ done and 75 hours played. One of the better games in a long time.

No Souls game or BB is a 10 for me though, because they always drop heavily in quality towards the later parts.
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>>168067828
Should be "Iai's/Honorubu's internally"
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>>168067839
That nits the nail on the head pretty much. Could easily be a 9/10 if they had more money and time
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Is it bettet to sell items and equipment at the shrine or disassemble them at the blacksmith?
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>>168068042
No. You weren't and never will be.
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>>168067828
>Shiggy and Li want honorabru duels
>keep spamming their guardian spirits, literally cheat and have 30 times as much health as you

Ye, fuck those guys. I always headshot and stab them on the ground when the fight starts so they go into it at like 75% hp. I also usually cheese Li by doing a dash attack, jumping behind him and hitting him in the back 3 times. He can't do anything against that
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>>168067839
I think the ARPG elements and loot actually hurt the game, still good but could've been a masterpiece otherwise
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why is everyone talking shit about my spear and 1kat
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>>168068282
Materials are by far the best choice. Disassemble.
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>>168068042
Anon please, Yasuke at least has shit to back up his place in history.
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>>168068282
Fucking blacksmith.
You'll need the mats and gold later for forging/reforging.
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is there a item set with bonuses thats magic based?
the mothman boss set gives amrita and living weapon shit but i want to be scumbag mage
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>>168067839
8.5/10 for me. The end game being such that even at the extreme later days of this games life there will STILL be speicalized builds makes me happy
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Let this be the last general. It's already dying, a whimper of Japanese games development.
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>>168067579
That's what I said. Li.
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>>168067649
What, you don't like having a higher max health and being unkillable using an elixir? Every build in this game is viable, you just need to find the broken bits (in this case, stacking elements on spears and adding magic) and put them together.
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>>168068282
The prevailing suggestion is to offer up or sell your Whites/Yellows, and disassemble Blues/Purples.

It's a shit exchange rate, but it's better to get some Amrita and more elixirs for your stockpile or some pocket change than some garbage materials. If the upgrade rate for materials wasn't so bad I would disassemble my common stuff, but it takes like 50 of the low material to make one high quality material, so fuck that.
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>summons dog
lel
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>>168068524
The fucking mage set perhaps. Hi-Nezumi or Genbu for spirit
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>>168068041
>at skin ar
Just keep going and unlock NG+ Difficulty, then get some NG+ gear, level some more, and come back. You can swap between NG and NG+ difficulties at will and it won't remove any of your progress.
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>mfw I only now realized amrita consumables charge your spirit meter

well goddammit
I've just been popping them likes souls after missions on the map screen
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>>168068652
There is only one letter in Ii's name.

That letter is "i"
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Just defeated the short haired girl that wants the D.

I'm way too tired to go on. I hope I'm at the end soon, 1kat spirit is kinda underwhelming to play. I wanna start a new character.
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What the fuck does the kagutsuchi magatama upgrade to the Smith do?
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>>168068812
Nah. Quick slot them and pop some little or one medium and its set.
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what's the strongest possible spear build?
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>>168068652
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>>168068812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZiybyi5GZw
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>>168068701
>>168067828
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>>168067887
>and there isn't anything else to do with it besides level up,
Haha that's what you think
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>picked team red because better passive
>Most people picked team blue for some reason???
>Team blue is winning
>Find dead team blue everywhere
>bonus glory for days
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>>168068906
Body, stam, strength, skill, whatever if you like magic or ninja, and spirit.
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>>168068812
Pop the smallest ones. I had ox spirit on. 6 small ones fully filled his gauge (600 amrita) but 2 of the 500 amrita ones didn't.
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>>168067839
8/10 a bit too many corridors heavy maps, some bosses are low effort and some are amazing, enemy variety is bad. Also agree what the other anon said that the huge amount of loot hurt the game in the long run.
I'm glad I bought a PS4 for exclusives.
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anyone know how much more your spell effects last with the omnyo mystic art?
i wish sometimes the game would explain these buffs a little better like how much more it increases the time on that shit and how much some of the magic last before its donezo
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>>168068906
All three damage scale stats, two stats for your armor class. 25 on primary scaling, then armors to 15, secondary scaling to 25, then armors to 20, tertiary scaling to 25, even out, possibly add spirit or Dex, then whatever you fucking want
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>Die to Nobunaga
>Cutscene happens
>Gane crashes
>Have to restart the level.


So mad.
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>>168068736
i know about the mage hat giving speed up casts and shit. i want an actual set with bonuses for having the armor
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>>168068967
>...some reason???

You mean flat +luck or %gold and %amrita?
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>>168069158
Almost double the length give or take. It's exceptionally useful.
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>>168068967
I'm pretty sure Toyotomi has 4 or 5 times the amount of people than the next biggest.
It's gonna be funny as fuck went they see that more people in the clan means a smaller reward from the clan battles.
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>>168067798
I already have all the ones I want. You get loads of glory in youkai realm hard mode.
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>>168068906
A book of reincarnation and confessional you fucking heathen.
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>>168068854
Yeah, Li. That's what I said, why are you being so weird about this?
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>>168069323
You mean that shit that you'll get regardless, and literally infinite of?
That shit that is super easy to farm?
Yes for some reason???
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I've spent all my money on respecs multiple times and I'm only half way done with the game, am I gonna be fucked later
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>>168069158
Like 50% longer.
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>>168069426
You're an idiot if you can't see why people choose it. Also, no response for flat +luck and silver tongue. I'll just be over here rolling in purples.
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>>168065653
Same thing here, most of them don't even realize the big glowing rocks are weak spots and they just attack the water.
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>>168067291
NO FUCKING WAY! MURAMASA FROM NINJA GAIDEN'S IN THIS GAME?!
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Vote or die

http://www.strawpoll.me/12319766
http://www.strawpoll.me/12319766
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Can we at least agree that this experiment was a failure overall and that we should stick to From's games from now on? Every single new thing they tried here failed, from the loot to the combat to the co-op.
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>>168069603
Thanks
Shitters like you are giving me lots of glory
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>>168069621
The game shares a Iot in common with ninja galden.
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>white tiger
why
i liked his comments
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>>168069418
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Is turtle, dare I say it, /ourspirit/?
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>>168069834
> he hasn't gotten to the end of the game
> he hasn't seen the teaser for the next set of campaigns

Anon
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>>168069778
How much glory?
>>
Who wants pre-order codes? I got two extra, for some reason.

2eeh-dlnd-9aak

badr-fdnq-bggl
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>mfw have killed every boss on the first try after skilling guardian spirit talismans

its just like muh dark souls
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>>168069635
>all those weebs
>all those people who don't get scaling
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>>168069635
>votes
Doubtful, all the revenats have 2kat.
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>>168069940
Revs are dropping anywhere from 80 to 200 and it takes me like 10-20 seconds to kill each one.
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>>168069930
>he hasn't seen the teaser for the next set of campaigns

?
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>>168069787
Its a distant prequel.
>>168069907
No because its shit.
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Am I gimping myself out of quick end-game farming with co-op by not having PS+?
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>>168069982
>The one retard who doesn't understand how to make each weapon broken
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>>168069982
Explain, senpai.
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>>168070109
yes
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look at this qt
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>>168069952

>this actually worked

t-thanks..
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>1kat skill that makes quick attack on ki pulse switch works even if you switch to 1kat from another weapon
>tfw all those possibilities for advanced play with two weapons
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>>168069635
How about we vote for what REALLY matters?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12319820
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I'm starting to farm something for the first time with Hanzo's set. Ain't no fun, even if that fight is over in like 20 seconds. Halfway through he started dropping fucking Onmyoji stuff instead.
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>>168070154
Body has THE worst scale and lowerst softcap
>>168070083
>he doesn't fucking know
Anon....
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>>168070213
Do the right thing and only take one, fampai.

If you use the Sanada armor, either use a different helmet or disable it in the options. The helmet looks like shit, but the rest of the set is great.
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>already spent over 150k on respecs, down to being completely poor again, not even close to done with the game
should i just fucking restart at this point
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>>168070241
Where's bondage girl?
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>>168070353
Who? I haven't gotten that far in the game.
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>>168070332
How far into the game are you?

If you're only at region 2 or 3, maybe. But cash really isn't a big deal.
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>>168070332
>only 150k
heh
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Ok so I literally JUST NOW realized there are stats needed for armor so the bonuses work. I am level 100 and only had 10/10 str/skl so half of my armor didn't work at all. Respecced to 15/15 and now I can really see the difference.
14/30/25/15/15/5/5/16 1kat heavy-ish armor build.
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>>168070389
The icy girls with toilet paper.
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>>168070389
>>168070353
flying bolts?
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>>168069635
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12319766
>Maining a weapon
>not using everything.
But I guess I've used 2kat more than anything else technically.
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Since I had no idea what I was doing and dumped 40 into heart, what is a good build for 3kat with some magic?
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>>168070247
Know what?
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How do you get more ochotko cups and do they factor into the rewards rarity, or just drops during the mission?
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>>168067379
>again
Slut.
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Start of 5th region. How long until the end when I just play main missions?
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Can I switch clans? What's the best clan for axe, Kato looks pretty tempting.
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What is the credits theme and why did they use it.
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>>168070446
I'm really early, only at the very start of region 2. Does the amount of money you get ramp up as the game goes on? Because I feel like it took me forever to get to just 100k and I blew it again on a respec
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>>168070083
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>>168069762
loot system is bad because it stops at 150. They should have gone full Diablo and make loot stop at 999
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>>168070724
>Does the amount of money you get ramp up as the game goes on?
like you wouldn't believe
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Dual Swords and Kusiragama are top tier y/n
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>tfw i always miss 2 kodama
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>>168070815
literally whom is the guy on the top?
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>>168070835
Spoken like a true shitter who's never used runewords
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>>168070615
Common drop off Revenants
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>>168069886
Calm down buddy, I'm joshin you. I know its actually li.
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>>168070874
kusari yes, 2kat no.
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>>168070902
>whom
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>>168068384
It's easy.
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What is the end game (future pvp) level? I am around 100 and want to get down to the reforging bussiness without having to soul match too much because shit costs too much money.

>>168070892
I always miss one faggot even with the kodama bowl hat
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When do I unlock more Onmyoji training? I've got 18 magic currently, will probably hit 20 after the next story mission, but I've only gotten the first mission from the dojo.

Also what's the highest you've seen Infinite Onmyoji go? I'm aiming to just sling spells all day but I feel like that's a pipe dream.
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>>168071104
There isn't one and you should end yourself if you want a meta
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>>168068858
I kind of agree. I'm 1kat with an emphasis in spirit and magic and I wreck everything in seconds.
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>>168071104
It's going to be 150 minimum since that's the cap on equipment levels.
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>>168071036
yes, whom is that character?
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How would you rate the weapons? I would say Kusirigama is obviously the best, but I'm not sure where the other ones place
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Need some help against the twilight version of the blob faggot. Anyone willing to help?
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what are the best passives to have? Mainly if you're agile and aggressive rather than tanky.
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>>168070892
slap on a kodama sense charm and never take it off
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whats the peacock do with the spirit guardian talisman thing?
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>Die once to White Tiger
>Come back and put all my buffs on before I enter the gate this time
>Rejuvenation
>Fire Talisman
>Battle Focus
>Carnage Talisman
>Literally obliterate him in one spin attack with the axe
>He didn't even finish his intro roar

Man wasn't meant to achieve damage levels this high. I'm going to have to go back and fight him with the sword like god intended.
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How do I unlock more points at the blacksmith girl? Do I just have to spend money?
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>First character is a katana and spear plonker
>Plenty of nice spears but very few good katanas. I've yet to see a purple katana
>Second character is standard ninja. Piles of axes. Axes love this ninja. Very few kusariagama but hey maybe they're kinda rare
>Third character is a strong axe guy
>Instantly find a fantastic purple katana with water damage. Still using my starting white quality axe
WHAT DOES THIS GAME WANT ME TO DO?
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>>168071212
anything that boosts Dash/Evasion Endurance, Running Speed, Low/Quick Attack bonuses
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>>168071180
What makes Kusirigama so special?
Do the skills push it into being godlike? It's pretty lackluster early on
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>>168069635
Trying to find a good spear to take off a revenant is a fucking chore.
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>>168071164
>It's going to be 150 minimum since that's the cap on equipment levels.
Equipment levels aren't a requirement.

Also it won't matter because it'll have level scaling.
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anyone tried night rain or tiger sprint? seems like normal Iai is best
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>>168071246
I'm going to need to see a webm of this.
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>>168071127
I'm doing something similar with infinite ninjutsu, give me a second and I'll tell you
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>>168071336
It's a meme.

People think that fast spinning = good.
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>>168071341
normal is probably the best
i thought the running one was ok and the rapid slash is weak shit
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>>168071415

I didn't record it but try it yourself

Battle Focus + Mad Spinner II alone literally shits on any big yokai and adding Carnage & Fire more than doubles the damage.

Fast enemies can get out of the spin but any big dudes basically get destroyed.
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>>168071341
Well you can have all 3 available by putting them in separate stances.
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I'm trying to do a 2kat and Kama build, but I find myself defaulting to 1kat because its so fucking powerful. I like magic and the spirit powers as well, is there like a nice build for this idea?
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>>168071647
>its so fucking powerful.
You are weak
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>>168071180
spear is absolute god tier for handing multiple enemies. high stance normal attack has insane reach, the low stance pole vault whisks you out of tight spots and gives you a free drop attack, spear stance change is stylish stunlocking, i could go on
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1. Kusiragama
2. 2kat
3. Spear
4. 1kat
5. Axe
>>
>+10% close combat damage
>every point in Stamina gives 5 more Life

Who /best clan/ here?
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Where do I get the blueprint for that tokin hat that scales with spirit? Does it come with a full set?
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>>168071798
Don't forget low stance heavy is a sweep. High stance also has already twirl or a shock that goes into a multi-hit
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>>168071907

My brother

Todo is secret god tier, it makes heavy armor actually worth using
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>>168071550
Wouldn't water be better since mad spinner II can surely apply it quickly enough?
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Hey guys im really having fun with the kusarigama and 2kats what would a nice stat spread look like?
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>>168067798

Wait you can play as a black Anjin?


Don't play with me nigganon

AFRO SAMURAI OR NOT!?
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>>168071907
christ it's like this game WANTS stamina to be the cheese stat
>>
>>168067798
>>168072104
yes he's a confirmed skin
>>
>I'm just summoning every sub-mission I can because I have so many cups and it's feeling tedious
Main missions are too long and I don't feel like having my hand held but I find on sub-missions I just want to get them done as quickly as possible so I can move onto the next region.
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>>168072069

Good point, I have water talismans so I'll try those next time
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>>168072104
yes, you can
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>>168071336
Not an expert, haven't played much yet. I just really like the reach of the mid stance, while low and high stance are amazing for proc'ing status stuff.
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>>168072075
Ten in the armor stats, focus on your main damage stats (look at your weapon details to see what they skill all off of), at least 25 Spirit, and drop points into whatever skill tree you want. Most likely ninjutsu because Dexterity is the kusari's best scaling stat.
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>>168068042
Nobunaga literally actually had a retainer from africa though
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>tfw I want to try other weapons than 1kat but literally spent all my points on 1kat skills and everything else seems to be really underwhelming to use
spear looks fucking nice tho

>>168071907
>10%
what? that's op as fuck. do you need to wear all (h) armors tho?
I am /maeda/ because off I use grapple a lot
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>>168070314
To be fair, sanada armor is basically samurai leader armor but with a different helmet and no coin symbol on the back of the coat.
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>>168072203
Large skeletons literally go down in two ki blasts with 1kat
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>>168069635
>main weapon
I use all except for kusogama and 2kat
>>
SPEAR OR 2KAT
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>>168072267
Fifteen in armor stats for the end
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>>168072456
Axes are nice. the only downside is those annoying pickaxe niggers can't be hit with midstance when theyre crawling around
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When do you get the first unique 2kat or kusogama? I'm rolling in 1kats and I got a spear, but no 2kat or kusogama.
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>>168072552
both
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>>168072552
Spear
2kat is shit
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>>168071260
The game wants you to do all of it on one character
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>>168072586
I have trouble hitting thise fuckers with my 1kat middlestance attacks too so I usually just switch to low. What I dislike the mist about axe is the pommel strike lowstance attack.
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>>168071830
Axe is the weapon of MEN
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>>168072586
>midstance
>when high stance heavy instantly breaks the ki of literally every enemy in the game

LOL
>>
Fuck this whole shit with RNG and armor/weapon schematics.
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>>168072174
>>168072153


HELL YEAH.
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>>168070332
Why the fuck would you restart? Just grind some co-op for money.
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>>168071336
Has all the range of reaches through stances, hits as hard as 1kat, hits faster than 2kat, has bully moves that leave enemies open to yet more bully moves, free final blows, damage buffing, better scaling with better scaling stat than 1kat.

Its incredibly OP if used correctly the only issue is that means you'll do the same 4 moves for humans and an entirely different set of 4 moved for yokai. Forever.
Its turboshitter mode but its boring mode too.
>>
Does anyone know what "Yokai contacted" means in gameplay records?
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Why the fuck is like nobody using the spear?
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>>168070475
>there are literally people who play this game with any stat under 15
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>>168073209
I've been using a spear the whole game my dude. IMO it's the second best weapon after kusarigama.
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>>168073209
I am, it's good as fuck. I'm using 1kat, spear and axe about equally. Not looking forward to levelling 2kat and kusarigama for the mystic arts, though.
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>>168073234
You explain to me why I need strength as a super fast ninja
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>spear parry gets a free knockdown

ITS NOT FAIR
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>>168073198
yokai that has responded to your gestures
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>>168073430
longsword gets a knockdown with perfect block. Kura can just sweep enemies off their feet
>>
Has anyone done any summoning/being summoned? Is it fun?
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>>168073467
Ah, makes sense. Those tanuki, man.
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>>168073430
>hi I don't read
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>>168071260
>he made more than one character
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>>168073412
You're supposed to use all of the weapon types.
You can still be a ninja with 15 strength.
>>
I still can't decide which 1kat parry to use.
Haze Gives a free grapple but the counter window feels shorter.
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>>168073430
Spear parry also has the tightest parry window in the game next to bare handed.

1Kat's Square parry, Haze I think, gets a free attack that does a metric fuckload of ki damage, is much easier to pull off, and gets a free follow up regardless of whether or not you actually put them into the ki drain state. The triangle parry gets a free back attack, as well.

Spear getting a parry only feels unfair because of the spear's kit is just so good. But it's also the worst parry in the game.
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Needs some advice with stats for a 3kat build.
Was thinking something like this, any thoughts?
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>>168073898
Is the shove better than the parry?
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>>168071647
>1kat
>powerful
No.
>>168072552
Both or 2kat.
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>all these shitter revenants dropping raikiris
Literally the drake sword of nioh
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>generic underground poison level
>uninspired and pathetically easy boss

Why did they even include this area? Was it just to copy dark souls as much as possible?
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>1v1 fight
>ghost heads spawn when boss is halfway down in health

Why is this allowed. Bridge guy wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't flinching from these green heads darting around
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How are people saying the 2kat is shit? The scaling is amazing, I honestly feel like it's the 2nd best weapon next to the kusirigama
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>>168074353
>1kat has 20 billion unique amazing swords
>axe has literally fucking nothing

REEEEEEEEEE
WEEB GENOCIDE WHEN?
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>>168074101
Try stacking damage from behind boni with your 1kat "damage from behind" secret art. You then do more damage than anything other than full charge axe swings, much more quickly. Any build in this game works if you get the boni for it. Reforging exists for this reason.
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>>168074460
Those assholes annoyed me, i made sure to kill them as soon as the guy let his guard down.

He was pretty easy to parry on that overhead swing.
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>>168074460
>He doesn't know how to fight while Oni-bi are floating around
Wait until the Onyroki one
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>>168074551
Anyone know if there are any good endgame axes?
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>>168073926

Dex and Magic to 20. Spirit to 25. These basically are not optional and are needed to unlock all skills in the game and get the full effectiveness of guardian spirits.

Also consider boosting Str/Skill and Body to 15. This is usually around the highest requirements most armor needs (str for heavy, skill for light, body for both).

With your remaining points you'll want some heart and stamina.
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>>168062595
what weapon should i focus on using onmyo shit? i feel like i dumped too much into magic/spirit and not enough into any other stats that i won't do shit damage with any weapon, i feel impotent as fuck even with my debuffs
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>>168074614

Damage from Behind on armor reduces the damage you take from behind, it doesn't increase your damage
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>>168073926
Body past 10 is shit. Anything beyond 15 is wasted. Put those points elsewhere.
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>>168074460
switch to low stance and do a running r1 attack
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>>168074551
I'm able to craft more than a dozen swords, and like 2 axes.
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>>168073793
>You're supposed to use all of the weapon types.
Literally impossible given the samurai points you don't have access to.

You can at most use 1 weapon really well and one weaponly shittly or two weapons moderately but that's it.
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>>168074739
why dex so high, is the ninjutsu stuff even good aside from power pills and quick-change? also why spirit to 25 if you aren't using spirits that have high level unlocks?
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>>168074798

Some of the late game armor needs 15 body. I haven't seen higher yet but you're not getting any bonuses from those sets without that much body (and str or spirit).
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Rate
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>>168074934
Are you bad?
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>>168074805
don't forget that those axes are generic, whereas like half the swords are either part of a set or have some special bonus stat

this katana favoritism needs to stop
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>>168074779
Now, this is where you hit the options button and actually read what it does even if you are 100% sure of yourself because the game uses the same terms for different things, and I admit this is dumb as hell. Spirits grant increased damage to enemies backs, Kingo's set does to. You can roll it on weapons.
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>>168075040
Being good or bad has nothing to do with the point distribution. Samurai points are hit the hardest from soft caps often taking 3 to 4 levels for 1. You're out of your mind, anon.
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>>168070961
>I know its actually li.
Li
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>>168074934
>Literally impossible given the samurai points you don't have access to.
What? In no way is it impossible. You get points for leveling stats AND gain familiarity with weapons, which means you'd get more points by using more weapons.
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>>168074941

You need 20 ninjutsu to do all the training missions to unlock the full tree. I guess you could get 20, do the missions then respec.

Also ninjutsu is decent if you fully spec into it, magic is just insane so it doesn't look as good in comparison.

You can also go with less spirit if you really want to, but even then most spirits still need around 20 and you're somewhat limiting your options since it's not exactly like you're locked into a guardian spirit.
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>>168074661
lol

no, respec to katana while you still can
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>>168074954
>not just dumping more points into stamina for the sexy B agility heavy armor

Axes scale C+ with stamina
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>>168074953

Dishonorabru
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>>168074934
Switch weapon types more often, and don't be a purist. The game throws points at you just for using them. I used the spear for thirty seconds because it had a fire element on it when I was on the water temple level, and got a samurai point.
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>>168074954
As tempted as I am to greentext that low spirit and that C agility. This isn't souls, there's nothing to rate, if it works for you then its fine.
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>>168073990
probably cause you can always do a shove but not a parry. also the shove hurts ki a lot.
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>>168075097
With Kingo set, weapon, bat spirit and sword skill it should be possible to get it to well over 50%.
mite b good
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>>168074934
>>168075125
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>>168074770
anyone? i feel like a retard baby
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>>168073898
>But it's also the worst parry in the game.
But the most stylish.
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>>168067306

Do you have to use that particular spirit for this to work? Which one was that?
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1kat is really that mediocre? Like is there any reason to use it over 2kat?
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Does the Okatsu almost-kiss scene change if you use that fragrant branch before fighting her?
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>>168074934
>You can at most use 1 weapon really well and one weaponly shittly or two weapons moderately but that's it.
Says you, shitter.
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How do I get there?
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>>168075346
How's the sword look?
>>168075375
wider utility
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>>168075492
you have to drop down a well
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>>168075492
You die an unnatural death like that Revenant there.
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>>168075054

Probably because historically Japan has mostly used spears, katana and bows as their weapons of choice. Infact, I don't think Japan ever had an axe designed for military use.
Would have made more sense for them to add clubs or something but I guess they just went with axes.
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those 2kat yoki are really overtuned
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Just started as a 2kat spear fag.

Is there any worthless stat i should never ever touch?
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>>168075375
1Kat is solid as fuck. It does literally anything you want it to. Best parries, solid damage and range, and adaptable for any situation. Also most uniques

2kat is good for status/element proccing. I would actually put 2Kat as the worst weapon in the game right now, because it's not even good at being the 'fast' weapon when Kusari and low stance Spears exist, both of which are just as fast but with more range. Barring Chaos/Yin-Yang cheese and style, there isn't much to 2Kats at the moment.
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>>168074954
>C rank agility
I hope you're doing ok with that handicap.
Refashion that mask into something better.
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>>168075342
just respec if you're that crippled. i see pure magic only being possible once you're in end game already and have access to gear to make it possible.
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>>168075632
Depends on if you like ninjutsu or magic
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>>168075346
senpai are there any good axes and spears in endgame
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>>168074770
>>168075342
i'm getting desperate for the spoon
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>>168075346
>I AM BECOME DEATH
Wielder of garbage?
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>half the general says 1kat is great
>half say its mediocre as fuck
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>>168075360

Just need one with good Recovery and Action. Might might be useful too if the boss hits hard.

>Which one was that?
Saoirse
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Does upgrading magic and onmyo power boost the duration of buffs and debuffs?
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~30% for crafting an exotic is good but are better off making more gear with the low quality stuff with the 10% chance?
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>>168075761
if you're gonna use genbu then spear. If Hi-nezumi probably kat
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>>168075738
I don't really use spears or axes, but I've gotten a lot with seemingly good stats.
>>168075786
t. raikiri shitter
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>>168075698
man that sucks, people said it was easy mode but getting through levels is hell
i just thought the spells were cool
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>>168075181
Not familiarity, proficiency.

>>168075245
I've got 3 to my name. All i need now is 2kat and axe.

That anon is talking about being able to use any weapon equally when that's simply not the case. You only have enough points to get all the skills you WANT from only a single weapon, assuming you're using all stances. Given that the passives that aren't the critical health ones are also useful, those also require points to be placed into them. If you mean using reincarnation to swap weapon types then yes, that should be done. If you mean being able to have enough points to have access to the essential skill each weapon class has to offer, you're sadly mistaken.

Compiling that is the end game divine gear reforging/inheritance game you're going to be playing
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>>168074770
>>168075342
You'll be fine with most stats at 15.
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>>168075892

Pure magic will never be possible. Magic is insanely strong, but it offers very little in the way of damage. It's mostly utility.
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>>168075727
Magic might be cool. I've only glanced so far.

Also, are elixirs consumables or reusable? Haven't really used any putting around the first level after the prison break.
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>>168075879
>t. raikiri shitter

>He only knows about raikiri

Don't project yourself on me, faggot. Learn about the fucking game you fucking nigger.
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so how do I unlock the "The Way of the Onmyo: Adept"? my magic is already at lvl 20
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So Night Rain is pretty much the best version of iai for regular use, right?
Almost no charge time, massive damage, massive stat buildup.
Regular one is only good for knockdown combos.
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>>168076204
Consumable. You can get armor effects that have a chance to not use up an elixir
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>>168074770
>>168075342
There is no Onmyo weapon like how the Kusari exists for ninjutsu. You're just looking for/hoping to reforge a weapon with a Scaling Magic bonus.

That being said, your real bread and butter are your element talismans for turning your weapons into nukes. Look into 2Kat and spear for maximum shenaniganry.

>>168075816
The thing is that 1Kat isn't anything special. It's merely 'solid.' It's strength is that it lacks a weakness. It does damage, it has tools, and it's attack speed is safe.

But people compare it to the Axe high stance's four digit damage numbers, the spear's range and utility, the Kusari's fucking everything, and 2Kat's ability to shit out procs, and it really looks like the 1Kat does nothing out of ordinary.

>>168076204
You get a pool of at least 3 free elixirs every life (and more when you save Kodamas in that region), but you can build up a stock pile in your storage from enemy drops, and increase the maximum capacity you can carry at one time through upgrades.
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>>168076204
>Magic might be cool.
It's cool for the utility. Given that you won't even SEE the weapons that have magic scaling unless you're lucky in rolls or reforging, i wouldn't recommend dumping into it.

>>168076312
>so how do I unlock the "The Way of the Onmyo: Adept"? my magic is already at lvl 20
Progress through the story.

>>168076204
>Also, are elixirs consumables or reusable?
Both. There's a base amount you get that increases for finding the green dudes. Any amount over that are expendables. Any extras you get over cap are placed in the warehouse
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>>168076312
you need 15 for adept and I think it unlocks after the first mission in the fourth region. the better question is when and how to unlock the master missions for onmyo and ninjutsu
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How the fuck do i put things into the store house? I want to save some armour sets but i havent been able to figure it out. There doesnt seem to be a button prompt and pressing all buttons hasnt worked. Fuck, i feel stupid.
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How the fuck does soul matching work
How come sometimes my inheritable skill transfers over and sometimes it doesn't
Should I even be bothering with this or should I just play the game and use the highest level drops I find
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>>168074661
The only green axe I've gotten was Haja and I'm about 3/4 through all hard mode stages. You can forge anything as a green with divine fragments, though.
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>>168071178
Mastermune Dante from Dragon May Cry.
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>>168076539
Different weapons have different limits on what they can inherit.
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>>168076204

Elixirs are a mixture.

You get 3 that are refilled whenever you pray. As you find more Kodama you will get more, but this only applies to a region. In one region you might have 6 elixir that restock when you pray, in another only 3.

On top of this, you can find them as consumables. These ones are one use only though and do not restock.
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>>168075945
>Not familiarity, proficiency.
Yeah that.
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>>168076539
Don't bother with soul matching until end game, because it gets retarded fucking expensive, and it's better to just farm purple geared revenants for decent shit rather than try to foot the bill for keeping one weapon around for more than five levels.
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>>168076539
>How come sometimes my inheritable skill transfers over and sometimes it doesn't
To transfer you need the weapon you want to transfer from to be max familiarity and the effect you want to transfer must not be the same category as one of the effects already on the weapon.
Which effects exactly belong to the same category isn't 100% known yet.

fextralife wiki has tried to make a list but not sure how accurate it is.
http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Reforge
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Does Nobunaga have a schematic for his armor and weapon? If so it would probably be best to grind the Yukionna/Nobunaga fight right?
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>swap to low stance
>dodge hop places
>use less stamina the running
>go like 10 times further on one stam bar
>go like 10 times faster too.

>Hosts see this and don't immediatly copy it.

So how many of you shitters are still walking/running.

Abuse that lowstance dodge ki cost reduction.
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When do I unlock the third tier of Onmyo missions and when do I get Genbu?
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>tfw I assembled Red Demon Li

Fuck yes. I am so fucking ready for this.
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>>168074551
This is pretty annoying>

I just want some rares for the weapons I actually use.

Why did they favor this heavily in favor of 1kat?
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>>168076504
L3 to switch to your inventory
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>>168069965
>mfw I killed frog boss in 30 seconds since I learned to bind spirit stones
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>>168077189

Every fucking revenant since like level 30 has been wearing that goddamn armor.
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>>168077504
Anon, Munishige is a level 27 fight. I think you're exaggerating. Ii is like a level 65 fight.

I think you might be confusing Crimson Master armor with Ii armor.
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Man, William's life seems to be a complete shit prior to his travel to Japan.
Even fucking demons up is better. He likes doing that anyway.
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>>168077116
Yes and yes
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So, anon. How are those divine fragments coming along?
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When do people STOP using the Raikiri? Every Kat user I've ever seen is using it.
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>>168077180
Pretty well I guess
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>get a 2kat with change to attack body A+
>manage to somehow roll change to attack spirit/skill A+
>manage water +15

I think i'm good guys. I'll soulmatch this shit into the fucking ground and bankrupt orphanages if thats what it takes to fund this.
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>>168077642
>Fucked mermaid pussy since he was like 5
>Bad life
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giant centipede has to be the worst boss in the game, very uninspired.
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>>168077721
A few dozen levels when they realize they won't be able to keep using it due to the costs of soul matching
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>>168077721
Late game where 1kats go back to sucking cause now everything has Change to Attack -blank- shoved on it and DON'T use worst scaling stat.
Sorry.
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>>168077721
Is it even that good? I found a better kat in the level you unlock the Raikiri.
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>>168077786

Forging, motherfucker. I'm at Sekigahara and at least half the katana users are using Raikiri's. It's just too good.
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>>168077721
When the game stops handing them out like candy. They're not even better than current weapons, my spirit's just 25
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>>168077921
If I were to use a spirit weapon I'd probably use this fucker
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>>168077643
Much obliged.
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Which enemies drop Antiparalyze Needles in stage 3?
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>>168062595
is it worth having bare minimum magic investment to use sloth/carnage on other builds? does your magic power actually affect them in any way?
inb4 "quit using easymode shit"
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what are the "change to attack (stats)" can you get on weapons?

Can you get all stats on weapons bonus?
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>>168078027
I see three bonuses that need to be reforged on that thing.
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>>168077642
>fucking loli mermaid since he was a kid
>literally his only comfort and "comfort"
>so tight even tome doesn't stand a chance
>gets to see places few gaijin ever do/can in that era
>buddy buddy's literal lords and gets rich/jacked/rich off of demon hunting which he enjoys
>literally becomes a self contained spirit bomb
>handsome as shit compared to the average person
>gains like 80 fuck toys over a few months time
Take the kind bad with the really really REALLY good i guess.
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which 1kat parry tree is better?
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What's the armor Will is wearing on the boxart?
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>>168078284
The Triangle one. It actually lets you follow up with a guaranteed attack.
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>>168078162
I'm busy wasting all of my money trying to reforge this piece of shit. All I need is a single weapon that has an inheritable skill that isn't complete dog shit
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>>168078027

It's the element that makes a weapon good. It doing half the job for you by making a boss be stunlocked until it dies is amazing.

Elements are OP to the point it's not worth using a weapon without them.
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>>168078438
You mean lightning is op. And only in the absence of sloth. The lesser elements are hit or miss given a bosses resistances, lightning included. If you can't trigger discord easily and the boss is lightning resistant besides it's no better than any other weapon
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>>168078387
Doesn't haze give a powerful stab too?
I get a grapple after it pretty consistently, but i don't always get one with the triangle parry.
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Wait, is refashioning "glamour" for weapons and armor? If so this just might be GOTY for me. I wish Monster Hunter had that feature.
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>>168077685
Anyone else feel like the Revenant system kind of destroys any sense of gear progression throughout NG+? Everything you get is at around the same ilvl, so you can just farm revenants all day until you get the shit you want making the Mission Clear Bonus shit nothing but dismantle fodder.

I guess the missions are still worth doing just to get that check mark, but I dunno man, I feel like it'd be better and grindier, admittedly if they took it out at NG+.
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I'm enjoying it more than I did the beta. The beta felt like the worst parts of Soulsborne-inspired games - all difficulty, no fun. Basic enemies that could shred you in one combo, weapons that did little damage, etc. I never got past the first area and I'm a vet of the Souls series. This is a lot better though. Played it for about 2 hours and almost made it to (I assume) the end of the village. Weird how the revenants are more difficult than the giant yoki though.
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>>168078576
Its transmog, yes
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Where do i get genius strategist (way of samurai boss) armor blueprint? Just farm the shit out of the guy intil he drops it?
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>>168078661
the revenant system is your only guaranteed way to get easy divine gear which you'll be recycling into shards to fuel your infinite reforging attempts. Not that I don't agree with you; sucks some of the impact out of the cup system where you would ideally be grinding those out to feed into a mission to raise the chance of divine gear.

But given the sheer volume of shards you're going to need, I don't hate it
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Moth girl just flies away without letting us copy her, surely she'll return in the DLC.
Sengoku history nerds, is there anyone Ootani has a connection with in anyway that didn't die at Sekigahara?
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>Nioh

Bandit/Low tier human
Samurai

Skull
Cyclops
Oni
Big Tongue yokai
Umi Bozu (lesser)
Mudman
Nurikabe
Wheelmonk
Flying bolt
Raven
Umbrella

Skellyton
Big Skellington
Statue Monser
Dweller

Spider

>Dark Souls 2 (No DLC)
Skeleton
Wanderer
12 types of Hollows
Ironclad Soldier
Old Knight
Gaoler
Heide Knight
Rupturing Hollow
Undead Aberration
Executioner
Undead Huntsman
Bonewheel Skeleton
Hammersmith
Grave Warden
Manikin
Desert Sorceress
Gyrm
Hollow Mage
Hollow Priest
Spider Drone
Alonne Knight
Alonne Knight Captain
Amana Priestess
Leydia Witch
Undead Crypt Knight
Dragon Acolyte
Drakekeeper
Dragon Knight
Dark Priestess

Pig
Kobold
Ogre
Dog
Poison Moth
Poison Brumer
Rats
Rotten Vermin
Cragslipper
Basilisk
Dog Rat
Parasite Spider
Dragon

Flame Lizard
Dark Dweller
Darksucker

Nimble Shadows
Bell Keeper
Banedigger
Elite Giant
Goblin
Lion Clan Warrior
Primal Knight
Grand Tusk
Stone Soldier
Ruin Sentinel
Syan Soldier
Stone Knight
Lizard Man


Damn...Really makes you think
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>>168079567
>nioh
fun

>ds2
shit
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>>168078557
>lightning is OP
eh, water.
Lowers physical AND elemental defense so you can stack it quicker then stack your Yang quicker then keep them down using your method of choice longer as the YinYang debuff lasts longer.
It basically turns 1kat low and all of 2kat/kusari into a tornado of razors and lemon juice.
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>>168078426
>Change to Attack (Skill): B-
MUH DICK
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Does anything happen if I choose not to give Saika the tortoiseshell hairpin?
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>>168078661
Here is the thing. Reventant gear drops at their initial values, they lose any skills that were gained by reforging and soul matching, so a lot of times they'll end up being inferior to post-game rewards which are scaled to dropping a more favorable roll.
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>>168079662
It's not fun when you're only in the 2nd region of the game and have already seen every enemy type
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>make a magic and ninja esque build
>ninja and mage armors require body or stamina

why?
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>>168079808
Pretty weak excuse you're making
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>>168079850
Because you treat this like souls
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>>168079878
yeah it's great knowing that every single fight will be the exact same thing I've done 50 times before, excellent, really excites me
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>>168079850
Their requirements are much lower than heavier armors.

Besides, this isn't a game where you go all in on only a few stats. Especially since they all softcap at 20, and only one actually needs to go over 25 for anything (spirit). You are expected to spread them out.
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>>168079695
Thats actually crap for divines.

They roll multiple A+'s fairly easy.
You could be rolling around with Change to attack skill/heart/strength A+ With water +20 all on the same weapon.
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>>168079808
there are a few more like ninjas and mages but yeah enemy variety is easily this game's biggest weakness
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>fuck all axe revenants, no one is playing with it
>random weapons off the floor dealing just as much damage as axes
>half the unlock are these super slow charged swings that do shit all damage given how hard they are to actually land

have i fucked up by going axe?
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>>168080357
Maybe. Good thing respeccing is actually kind of cheap.
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Anyone know why I can't see the Unit Leader's chest armor for refashioning?
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>>168080357
Not at all if you love dashing the Ki out of literally everything to bits.
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>>168078426
>Green katana
I'm a bit jealous. Hanzo won't drop it or the smithing text for the life me.
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>>168080636
God I need the kusarigama. It seems hanzo is fucking us both
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>>168080636
What's your build looking like at endgame?

Can you take a stats screenshot if near ps4 please
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>>168080357
Its a nice Ki breaker for literally everything but don't main it. Main spear and use axes for shit like Ki draining yokai.
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I seriously want to use a kusarigama but I am complete shit with them and just end up using my 1kat in any fight. How do I use kusarigamas properly?
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>>168079019
so you guys just farm Revenants for gear so you can dismantle said gear and use it for forging divine gear? Fucking stupid I used 10 ochoko cups on a mission and got like a +2 divine weapon. Man they need to rebalance this shit. And the cup droprate is so fucking bad.
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>>168081087
Cup drop rate is practically designed so you're sucked into playing co-op and fighting revenants. Pretty efficient at making you want to spirit for people.

For what it's worth, even if it says 6% or whatever. The actual drop rate for divines seems to be really high in that case
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>>168080936
Unlike every move that says "throw at an enemy and pull", highstance trip, and kick.

Highstance throw, trip, perfect pulse, final blow, highstance quick. Dead revanant/humanoid.

Anything that blocks you you'll kick the stamina out of then repeat the above process.


Its boring as all hell but OP as shit if thats your thing.
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>>168080740
It's just an unoptimal mess of everything, I'm too lazy to respec. I've been pumping most of my post-game amrita into Spirits, anyway.
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>>168081195
Actually got more cups from big chests than from Revenants.
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>>168080936
I find Kusarigama to be situational, useful but situational.

With high stance, I mostly use the heavy attack for a long range strike

Mid stance is great for fighting groups

Low stance is good for single targets.

FYI, I recommend using it more against slower targets, a lot of its attacks are kinda long and leave you open. Against faster enemies, use another weapon.
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>>168081247
Unlock*
Fuck you autocorrect and your cancerbook panderings.
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How much magic should I be aiming for?

Any particular requirement on an awesome spell, or just enough to ready all 4 slots?

I mainly just use magic to buff, not really the type to throw fireballs around.
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>>168081350
it's okay in the case for fast enemies as well, the dash attack with it is really good, as is the kick
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>>168081382
Unlike is a word.

Its unlike the word you are thinking of
>>168081417
20 is soft cap of course, but I guess just put in enough to unlock all the skills you care about.
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>>168081417
it's kind of shit at throwing fireballs. In reality it's strongest offensive capabilities comes from summoning your guardian spirit. The fireballs are pretty much only good for applying debuffs to get discord
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>>168081350
>against faster enemies
Just close the gap but leave a good foot more space than you would with, say, a 2kat.
This gives your shit the space needed to wind up before the enemies swing hits you.
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Fuku has a fat butt.
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>>168081195
So whats better running levels with 5-10 cups or farming Revenants and forging stuff if want +5?
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Should I bother doing all the side missions before doing the main ones or just do the ones that give me more spirits?
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>>168081561
I was thinking more of since the attack lasts longer, if you don't stunlock them, it takes longer to end the animation and get out than other weapons.
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>>168081503
I typed unlock and it autocorrected then when i wrote the correcting post I literally had to write "unl" and "ock" before deleting the space.
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>>168079764
Do the skills really make that big of a difference? Feels like most of them are pretty minor. I guess I haven't really seen what you're capable of getting, though.
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>>168081654
It's likely you won't get the exact pieces of your set you want for awhile. So a little of both, honestly.

>>168081683
all of them
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>Finally beat Yuki-Ona and Oda Nobunaga.

Now just for the warrior combo and I'll be done with all the missions.

>>168081740
>Do the skills really make that big of a difference?
Skills are literally the only thing that matters.
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>>168081683
Might as well do them all. If you don't get a spirit, generally you get schematics
>>168081724
I'm not saying autocorrect wasn't being a shit. I'm just saying unlike is a legitimate word.

Dunno why it would autocorrect unlock tho, thats a word too
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>>168081709
Just learn to block cancel animations.
It'll save you some pain in boss fights.
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Anyone willing to help with the first mission in the second region? Got destroyed by bat bitch, can't make it back through the Oni swarm guarding the boss due to no more elemental talismans. Ochoko cup already up, waiting and praying
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>>168081859
I unlike this whole situation.
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>>168082004
Thats improper usage of unlike

The proper usage is unlike what you just said
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>>168082071
Its not entirely unlike proper grammar though.
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>>168081087
>cup droprate is so fucking bad.
wish i could trade these, i don't need the cups but they keep dropping instead of actually something useful
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Anyone know what makes an armor appear in refashioning?
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What exactly counts as a request to the blacksmith? I'm trying to get the achievement and forging tools doesn't seem to count. Making 60 weapons/armor sounds annoying.
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>>168082148
>i don't need the cups but they keep dropping instead of actually something useful

oh yes, if only we could like exchange them
already got 80 and I don't need more
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Hey is there any way to accidentally overwrite a character save with a different character save?
Because I think I somehow did and I have no idea how.
Right now I am sitting here having lost A LOT of hours of playtime and I have no idea how it even happened.
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>>168081913
You should be able to run past all the oni pretty easily from the third shrine.
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>>168080636
after saying this a few minutes later he dropped both the kusa and the scroll that contains his apparel
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>>168082202
>80

fucking how I only have like 5.
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Fuck yo bitch ass and your one-shit laito attack.
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2kat or spear?
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What's your hot opinions on weapons, lads

After two playthroughs mine are:

Kusarigama>>2kat>1kat>Spear>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Axe
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>>168082368
>not farming revenants
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>>168082434
Both
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>>168082439
muh nigga
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Why does everyone join Toyotomi clan? because the amrita bonus? literally who the fuck cares? why not go for an attack bonus one? or are they all shit ?
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>>168082439
About the same but I dunno, I had more fun with the axe than spear even if the axe is well enough objectively the most "Eh" of the choices for now.
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IRASSHAI!~
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>>168082368
I got lik 100 something.
Literally had 5 hosts insist on killing every revanant and then for some reason 8 chests spewed out some number during the whole deal. >>168082434
What your other weapon?
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Can i get the better straw hat the general guy in the second area cutscene is wearing? I need to go weeber
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>>168082383
The sword I got as a completion reward.
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>>168082439
I really want to like axe but i'll save judgement for when i get more skills.
Really like Kusari and 1kat, not a big fan of 2kat and i liked spears in the beta, but haven't played with them enough in the game.
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How the fuck have people been having problems with Umi-Bozu?

He's the easiest boss I've fought so far, I didn't even use fire, his attacks are so easy to dodge and you get so much time to hit him after that incredibly telegraphed laser beam.

You people fucking suck at video games.
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>>168082260
Hadn't found the third shrine. Thanks, kind anon who took pity.
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>>168077721

That was probably my favorite boss fight so far. It was really well done.
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>>168082786
The sword I had.
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Light armor or medium?
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>>168082934
What top?
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>>168083097

The whole set is the frontline set
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1kat > 2kat

we all agree on this right
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Can someone tell me the fuck mystic arts for weapons are and how hard are those to obtain?
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Anyone doing multiple saves? Does anything carry over between saves?
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>>168083262
>I don't like having any strength
As expected of the dumb frogposter
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>>168083184
>want to use Unit Leader
>can't unlock the chest piece for refashioning

help
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>>168083184
How big of a benefit is it to have A agility over B?
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>>168083301
FUCKING READ. They take quite a bit to obtain and then you gotta fight something in the end to unlock it
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where's the best place to farm hank of yokai hair?
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So what is the exact objective in a twilight mission with the objective "Traverse the encroaching darkness"? Am I just supposed to get to a specific point or do I have to kill some specific enemies or what?
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>>168083392

Assuming you mean keeping my weight under 30 it makes a rather big deal. It makes the dodging feel more souls like and I can i-frame most bosses so far quite easily.

>>168083376

I think it's a random chance to be unlocked when you pick it up, but I'm not 100% sure how it works myself. Keep grinding for the chest pieces and see if it unlocks
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>>168083514
> Am I just supposed to get to a specific point
Yes
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So I beat the game and did every side mission. It says I'm still missing a mission in the Omi Province? I wanted to net the trophy for completing all missions in the game, but I can't seem to find the last one. Is it a glitch or is it supposed to be future content or some shit?
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As soon as I learned to hold block when dashing this game got significantly easier. It's funny watching the dark souls "pros" streaming this and getting comboed to death despite having half ki because they refuse to block.
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>>168083672
Awesome, because I tried engaging some of those huge ass yokai that spawn in threes and I had no fucking idea how to handle them. If I can just skip them, that's great.
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>>168083818
it's all the way at the bottom. The twilight version of that mission was horrifying as you had to kill spider she-bitch.
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>>168083750
I think the biggest problem some people have in the beginning is that they have to block out of a combo instead of dodge.
If you don't block after getting stunned you'll just eat more damage. I catch myself doing it occasionally.
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>>168083334
What's with people saying 1kat has no power? I melt enemies like butter
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>Try to do Way of the Ninja Veteran
>Hanzo is just spamming projectiles forever and bouncing around
>Acting all smug when he wins
Go fuck yourself Hanzo. Give me my weapons or at least have a limit to your fucking projectiles and I would rape your ass into the ground you cheap fuck.
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>>168084069
That was the easiest for me. The AI is so awful in this game.
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So are all the unique weapons seriously 1kats or do other weapons get their share?
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>>168084069
You get two of those things that prevent like 90% of his projectiles. Make him eat your hard wooden katana.
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>>168084176

As you start meeting more major characters other weapons get a place in the spotlight
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So from what I've gathered regarding stats

>Damge scaling slows down after 30/40/50
>Spirit should be always be pumped to 16
>Magic/Dexterity require 20 points min to unlock the various missions

Is this right?
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So now that all is said and done it's 100% confirmed you can't get Ohtani's moth girl spirit, right?
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>>168084043
Its actually fairly middling.
1kat melted that yokai?
2kat/spear will do it quick and all kusari has to do is look at it.

Doesn't mean it's actually weak but as it stands compared to how OP the top-tier shit is its not that great.
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>>168077721
Never

They don't give you smithing text for anything better for a long time.

I just got a cool wind katana from a mission but it's blue tier and I don't have any smithing texts to work with. It's annoying as fuck.
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>>168084243
Yeh, it'd be like taking his Saoirse from him. Real waifu niggas don't do that.
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>>168084371
When I started the game I used kusari for yokai and katana for humans.

Later in the game I found a katana that has bonus damage to yokai and now I'm just 1kat 1kat and switch depending on what I'm fighting because it was so much more instant damage then my kusari
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>>168083726
There's a follow-up mission to the dual swords dojo in Omi. Go grind out that proficiency.
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>>168084456
Literally all I wanted was a moth girl and they've denied me it in the most specific of ways.
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Holy shit this mask is so good but soul matching is getting pretty costly, is there any way to get a higher level version?
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>>168084243
Yeah. Seems like there are a couple spirtfu's we can't get. Hopefully there will be more added in the DLCs.
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>>168084232
Try 20/25/30/ depending on stat and beyond that its a downhill curve.
Ever significant level (every 10 levels you can) whatever stat you pick gets a nice boost so say you're level 60 and you just dumped a point into heart and instead of only getting +1 ki cause its the 21st point you'd get +3.
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>>168084531
Yeah.

Forge it.
Or just get something better and refashion it to look like that?
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I really wish this game didn't have such pathetic aggro ranges. It's just way too easy to run away and run past the entire level. The enemy having such atrocious AI really diminishes the game for me personally. Enemies are too passive.
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>>168084656
I think he meant the stats.
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>>168084674
>He didn't experience Alpha ranges
That's nice to know you have nothing to compare it to
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>>168084674


yeh, Sad! tier compared to beta and Alpha. But because of this I just fight everything to death. I come across and back off to heal or apply items. I could dash through the entire game and avoid everything till the boss sure, but that ain't fun. I like the fight AI though, especially twilight and revenants. Some cool shit can occur.
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>>168084486
As someone said above stats matter more than the weapons/gesr themselves half the time.
Kusari requires a good bit of skill point dump for its bully moves and sweeps which are what lead to it being scarily effective.
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>>168084656
I can't forge it, does the bridge ghost drop smithing text for it?
I don't care about the mask itself just the 40% toughness boost
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>>168081643
Literally Perfect.
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>>168084650

I'm primarilly playing dual-kats. I was thinking of putting 40 points into skill, 20 into magic, and 16 into spirit. Would it be better to dump the rest into body or heart or stamina?
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>>168084859
I got both kursi and 1kat skill tree completed.
I find myself preferring the moveset and damage output more now for 1kat though, I feel like I have more movement and control over my character as well vs kusri.
I still keep one on hand though for those hard to reach enemies.
(Umbrella demon, child yokai, floating elemental heads)
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>>168084824
I did. They ruined the difficulty completely.

>>168084849
AI is garbage, you can dash attack over and over to kill anything in the game.
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>farming that one guy for the Warrior of the West set
>won't drop a purple helmet, have a purple of everything
>kill him 30 times
>31 time he drops the smithing text

WHAT

HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE CAN I DO THIS FOR
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>>168084650
>Ever significant level (every 10 levels you can) whatever stat you pick gets a nice boost

Is this true? That seems really wacky, means respeccing will require careful planning
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>>168084884
>I don't care about the mask itself just the 40% toughness boost

>Toughness +1
>40% boost.

What?
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>>168084674
Enjoy that shit.
Alpha every enemy homed in on you as soon as you spawned and beta the second they had actual line of sight you were a marked man.
It was literally 8 on 1 until you got lucky or cornered or you charged ahead and tried to kill them individually before they packed up to hunt you down which meant moving forward which just aggroed more till you were going from one fight to the next with no ki or items left cause ranged user would stop every so often to sideswip you from out of sight.
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>Just beat Onmyo Veteran
>Six casts of sloth
>9 Casts of Lightning and Water Shot
>6 Casts of Guardian Spirit

So the game is over I guess. I feel the buff duration mystic art is a lot more worth it than the cast speed increase one because I already have a hat for that.

When do you get Genbu anyway?
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>>168085140
i assume the "total toughness" means it boosts his entire stat, not just the helmet,
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>>168085094
Just about every unique or special gear in the game (barring accessories) have smithing texts for them.
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>>168085094
Wait, I got the warrior of the west armor set schematic from just beating the story mission, is this a different schematic?
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>>168084527
Aight thanks a lot
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>>168085094
Every armor has a smithing text.
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>>168085140
It gives a 40 percent boost to your total toughness.
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>>168085231
Stop making me so sad of what this game could've been. How could they ruin it this bad? It's like you're permanently using the invisibility scroll in the final game.
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>can play as all the male characters in the game
>won't let you play as the 3 female characters in the game

why tho
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>>168085089
Enjoy that I guess, you can do that sort of thing in any game but I have no idea why you would.
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>>168085506
Different model sizes/hitbox I assume.
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>>168085505
Game is nice, stop raising your expectations.
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>>168085506
>everyone farming divine gear for pvp
>they dont realize you're going to be selecting preset characters from the game and using preset skillsets
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>>168085601
Nah that's ridiculous

It's because animations. You literally double the number of needed animations or you have awkward Fromsoft style women who act and walk like men.
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>>168085506
Really it's probably for the best. I don't think I would be able actually focus if I was watching Fuku run around.
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>>168085753
Yeah, but that adds another layer of difficulty
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>>168084992
Skill softcaps at 25 more or less but you'll really notice the downward curve past 30. Str is a good option but generally speaking you'll need 20 in stats for your armors of choice later on and 25 spirit is the highest req in guardian but you may want to look into if you'll even need that one.
>>168085127
Yup. Its where actual minmaxing would come in if the actual boost mattered but realize by 150 its like you added 2 extra points to one stat IF you spent those 15 boosts on it.
>>168085140
Thats 40% more of your TOTAL toughness. Got 143 toughness? Congrats you now have super poise at 200.
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Had to give up my beloved Water Dragon husbando for doge, but I beat this bitch in 2! Was super worried when everyone talked her up. Awesome boss fight to do drunk.

God the compressions terrible from PS4 share on thsi game damn Koei and your stupid logos. I love this game so fucking much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4cDmh3AF7I
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>>168085717
It's great in every way besides difficulty. There is very little sense of accomplishment. I like the game so much I would figure out how to make the mod to restore the original difficulty myself if it came to PC.
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>>168085729
>pvp
I'm literally doing it to become a god.
PvP or PvE.
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>>168085505
>Wants that clusterfuck of what happens when there are too many floating heads in one room, but with actual enemies to be the regular game
Nigger what

Shit goes to hell in a hand basket if you have to deal with more than 4 entities at once. Hell, you can tell when the devs wanted to make certain spots ass clenchers because there are so many enemies within a range. Mobs don't need to flood in just because a fly farted a block out.
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>>168085838

So 30 skill / 16 spirit / 20 magic or dex

Would be a good starting point? Than the rest into body or stamina?
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what does upper limit and lower level limit for forged items mean exactly? is it good?
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>>168085729
>>168086017
>pvp
>Nerfs coming too for pvp balance
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>>168062595
Nioh 2 with romanceable Okatsu and Fuku router when?
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>>168086096

Speaking of which is magic straight better than nin-shitsu due to the sloth talisman?
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>>168086263
I mean sloth is pretty OP

Otherwise they both have their benefits.
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>>168086026
This shit.
Its literally you make a noise by walking a little too fast and suddenly every ninja in the castle is in the same room you're in doing jump attacks. The first 12 drain your ki instantly and the other 20 do the finishing blows.

Its not even "oh i'll just sit at a choke point" or "i'll walk slowly". The second you're in the neighborhood the alarm goes off and they smell you and suddenly you're in a choke point trying to 1v1 while 3 guys with spears poke past the guys with 1kats while the archers shoot past them so you get 1 block before your health disappears.
It wasn't difficulty it was broken.
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>>168086143
It's what happens if you don't cater to pvp fans
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We should do a post game of PSN ID's for post-game co-op as more and more people get to the end
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>Just completed the East meets West tag team mission

Shoutouts to that rock over in the corner of the arena, that shit might not be possible for mortal men without it.

And that fucking healing buff the Deer guy has is absolute bullshit.
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>>168086217
I don't want to romance my router, no matter what kind of funny hat it's wearing.

>>168086263
Ninjutsu has utility and makes life a lot more tolerable with putting all those offensive consumables as things that regenerate, but magic breaks the game over its knee. To the point where I'm 2000% certain it's getting a nerf like bare handed shenanigans did.

Once the first wave of nerfs pass around, I'm certain this general will have the same rule as /wfg/, where it's faux pas to even mention broken shit for fear of it being taken away.
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>had to kill spirit cat because bald fag is a cunt
Holy shit now I'm mad.
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>>168086096
Try an even spread but more or less yes.
>>168086263
Sloths damn game breaking but otherwise both has uses.
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>>168086217
*Route
Fuck me

>>168086585
No bully
>>
How much glory does it cost to to buy Li's skin?
>>
>>168086745
None. There is no "Li".
Maybe if you ask correctly i can answer.
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>yasuke is called obsidian samurai on american version and dark samurai on eu version

fucking lmao
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>>168086638

Aight cheers, thanks for the advice m8. Going to respec as soon as I get home. Still not sure on ninjitsu or magic though. Might just go ninjitsu because I don't want to feel like I cheesed my way through the game.
>>
What the fuck is Itokuri's spirit guardian attack?
>>
>>168086457
Stop this. Enemies ignore you in the final game if you're like 5 feet away, it's crazy bad design.
>>
>die a total of 2 times between umi-bozu, yuki-onna, and spider slut
>tiger fucks me up for at least 15 times
I guess I still suck.
>>
>>168086502
Honestly I'd prefer
>>168085729
If they don't nerf shit for the main game.
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>>168084674
Kys anytime
>he never played demos
>he never experienced skelly archers shooting you from nearly beyond the draw distance
>he never had yokai aggroing from the location half the fucking level below
It was cancer
>>
>>168086818
not him but how much does it cost to be Red Oni Ii? When does he unlock?
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>>168086825
Less blacks to get buttmad over in EU and believe it or not they don't all jump up and down the second something MIGHT be racist.
Call him Dark Samurai and you'd get BLM and Warner Bros. kicking your door in and sueing your ass into oblivion.
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>>168086818
Yeah, yeah meme it up shitlorb.
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>>168086825
Obsidian Samurai sounds cooler.
>>168086953
The real qustion is what was the name in japan?
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Anything I shouldn't disassemble? I've just been disassembling everything I don't currently have equipped, on region 3.
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>>168087034
Dark samurai.
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>>168086596
Use spoiler text please
>>
There's a locked door on the boat in The Conspirators stage that I can't figure out how to open. Says it doesn't open from my side but I can't see a way to get to it at all anywhere on this boat. Anyone know? It's near the start of the stage
>>
Gyokuto's guardian summon seems terribad, I can not see any use for it.
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>>168087127
How do you spoil shit that happened 400 years ago?
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>>168087124
Is that actually true?
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>>168087163
america gains independence and your mum blew like 80 dudes in a night at her bachelorette party cause everyone was wasted and tammy bet her $10. She kissed you with that mouth.
Like that.
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>>168086830
Spirit caltrops
>>168086846
>lieing
Yeah okay
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>>168087154

Paralyzes the shit out of everything in the area and keeps the paralyze on for a good 10 seconds.
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>>168087314
>Lifag gets triggered again

Every night
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hey guys, about to start the actual game

I'm going with my main weapon as sword and secondary as the chain sickle with the shark as my guardian spirit.

so I should put most of my level ups in heart and dexterity for these weapons?

is this a bad combo?
>>
So what's the deal with the stats? Why is heart considered shit? Why even level at all beyond what you need to wear certain armor or get certain bonuses from spirits?
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>>168087139
Yeah that one tricked me out at first but I stumbled on how to get in there.

Go to the second floor of the boat and right above that room smash all the barrels and vases and you'll see a hole in the floor to fall down through
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>>168087437
Heart only effects kats and the ki it increases is at a very minimal amount.
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Is spider bitch the final boss of this mission? I want to nab all the kodoma before I end it.
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>>168086886
Too hard is more fun than too easy. I obviously want a middle ground but I do prefer the other extreme.
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>>168087382
I was testing it on some bandits and they just walked through it. Even kited them around it and it didn't paralyze shit.
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>>168086953
Obsidian is cooler though
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>>168087498
But if you're using 1kat, why wouldn't you level it up?
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>>168087481
Ah, I somehow smashed everything in that room but didnt notice the different floor texture. thanks
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>>168086854
Just sloth/makibishi his stunlocking fag ass
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>>168087401
Same combo I started with and most other probably did too.
That or 3Kat.
Shark is very good intro spirit simply for sense enemy if nothing else.

You want to put more points into spirit and dex, and eventually some magic if you want ez mode sloth talisman

Most other stats softcap around 10 and you'll only level them to get the minimum requirement for the set you want.
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>>168087498
>>168087565
Memes from before the game was out. People are so obsessed with softcaps. If you're using 1kat it's a good stat to have, along with Skill and Strength.
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>>168087401
Stats don't matter that much, just level up those few stats yeah. Skill is good too as is strength/stamina just to equip gear. Avoid too much omnyo magic unless you want Demon's Souls tier broken magic.
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>>168087724
>before the game came out
If you're gonna do that at least say Spirit. That was the one everyone meme'd about. Heart only affects three things anon. Three
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>>168087401
Respecs are cheap in this game. A good early game build is 9/9 in whatever armor stats you prefer, 16 Spirit for Guardian spirit bonuses, and dumping the rest in your preferred weapon's main stats (all weapons have 3 stats they scale from. One primary and two secondaries).

Don't even worry about building wrong. The only thing you need to not do is build into magic within the first two regions, because you don't get any of the "Real Fun Stuff (tm)" for awhile. Ninjutsu is alright; worth putting your few free Ninjutsu points into shuriken and the backstab ability, then whatever suits your fancy.
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>>168087836
Yeah, and if you're using 1kat the damage buffs are good. As you get towards endgame you're going to be wasting points on other shit when Heart is giving you decent damage gains. Body is the shit stat.
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If you respec, does that also remove the skills you've unlocked?
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>>168087510
Bump.
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I haven't beaten the game yet but I'm curious now, does anyone think it has potential for a sequel?

Mechanically there's a ton of stuff that can be improved, but so far it seems like it's already got 90% of Japanese mythology covered.

European mythology Nioh when?
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There are no "shit stats" retards. If you're using 1kat, Heart is good. If you're using spears, Body is good. It all depends on your weapon, can you not read?
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Is there an optimal way to spend prestige points? I'm tempted to pour them all into stats (HP/Ki)
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>>168087971
I believe it refunds all of your skill points from level ups and locks of hair. Not sure about weapon profeciency skill points, though.
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>>168087930
Yeah I love not being able to use any endgame armor because I shoved everything into heart on account of super leet damage with muh weeb sword. If you wanna go calling things shit stats, then you're gonna have to give more than >opinions. Going solely off of things they influence Spirit and Heart are the weakest while Dex, Magic, and Stamina follow them. Body, Skill, and Strength are the best stats
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Is Otani's armor available? And is there any head variant that you can get that has his boss horns/flowing white shit?
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>>168088030
I've been wanting more vidya with more contemporary Japanese ghost lore.
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>>168087205
In the game? Yes.
Historically? No. His name was Yasuke. >>168087538
Debatable. I would have preferred we called him The Beast or something cause he supposedly had the strength of 10 men and stood 6 shaku 2 sun (6'2") when most well built tall men hit 5 shaku flat and was claimed to be a fierce warrior even if he wasn't trusted a true katana, maybe have a gorilla or something as a guardian causs those bastards are strong and intimidating and just like him aren't from the island just like williams Saoirse isn't and thus looks different plus the gorilla is a deity of the people he probably came from.
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>saving spirit crystals to crush for Living Sword in boss battles
Is this a dumb idea?
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>>168088030
Well it hints at a sequel at the end, but it would probably be in Japan again.
A european style Nioh would be cool tho
>>168088081
I assume points gotten from magic and dex are gone tho
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>>168088159
I use them to recharge it if I fail at killing a boss.
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>>168088106
Whatever floats you're boat, man. I'm fine in NG+ with my full heavy armor and putting points into Heart for the +3/4 extra damage a level compared to 1/2 from Skill and Strength.
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>>168088159
I mean its a way to cheese the duels that are just the bossroom and nothing else.

Otherwise just beat up enemies.
>>168088117
Yes to the first

I believe no to the second
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>>168088032
They link to other shit like ki, health, other weapons, etc.
Body leads/links to almost jack shit and skill is tied to literally everything outside magic/ninjutsu/health.
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>>168088365
Yeah, but Body increases spear damage, so if you're using spears, it's a good stat no matter what.
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I'm a bit confused as to how familiarity works, does it deplete when you unequip a weapon for a while, or does it stay maxed forever?

>>168087898
I didn't know about the secondary stat scaling for weapons, what are they for each type?
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Wait
Wait

Does R3 when aiming really zoom?
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>>168088151
>6'2"
That was all? It's alright but no way that's worthy of legendary statu-
>most well built men hit 5 shaku flat
Jesus christ really? I mean I know people were shorter but damn. Dude was a monster then.
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Is my level supposed to hover around the mission level? I've found that I'm about 15 levels below the mission level at the end of the fourth region.
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>>168088490
Yeah
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>>168088437
No. It really isn't. You can use the other 2 stats its linked to to boost its damage, boost your other weapons damage, and boost your stats.
Or you could waste all that potential and pump a useless stat for a slight boost in damage for one weapon.
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>>168088475
It stays maxed forever unless you use a certain spell that drains it completely, but creates magic swords that shoot at the enemy. Or if you soul match it

But yeah, otherwise once you got it, you got it.
>>168088548
Holy shit, I really wish I had known that, I've been default zoom headshotting all this time. God damn
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>>168088475
If you look at your weapon stats, on the bottom it'll tell you which 3 stats it scales with and at what rate A, B, C, D.
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>>168088117
Yes, but you need both the chest and leg armor for the purple robe to show up.
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>>168088490
Don't worry; took me a while to figure out as well.
>tfw figured it out after getting through an entire level of overhangs and distant bullshit
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>>168088543
Had the same thing happen to me.

Grinded a few levels, moved onto the 5th region and im back to being 10+ levels lower yet again.
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>>168088475
Maxed forever unless you soul match or reforge I think
>>168088475
2kat is skill/strength. Spear is skill/strength. Kusari is body/skill. Kat is I believe skill/strength. Axe is stamina/body
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>>168088475
For the secondary stats, it actually depends on the individual weapons weirdly enough.

For example, the first two sword types in the game, the uchigatana and the tachi have different scaling.

One of them has B+ Heart scaling, but D+ Strength scaling and C Skill scaling. The other has B Heart scaling, but C- Strength scaling and C- Skill scaling.

Individual weapons have unique Break and Parry values, as well.
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What's the most lowkey piece of head armour? I love how you can refashion all the armour, but I hate all the head pieces, I really wish you could get an invisible option like in WoW. Got the Legendary Strategist's set on now but the hat looks so fucking dumb
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>Tome says I look far better than when we first met
How cute am I?
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>>168088543
Are you doing all the side-missions as they appear? I've never grinded but I've always been about 5-10 levels higher than the reccommended. I've even held off leveling up for a lot of portions of the game just to wait for new skills to unlock and decide on.
Also had mizuchi for a while, so maybe the amrita up affected it.
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This game is weird, when do I get to fight jibanyan?
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>>168088716
There is an option in game settings to make your helmet invisible. Enjoy.
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>>168088716
Go into the options menu, you can make all headgear invisible.
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>>168088724

Yep, I've done every mission available, some even multiple times.

>>168088676

I'll have to grind or something I guess.
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>>168088716
Go to basic game settings, turn off all headgear!
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>>168088723
if someone who looked like that, who was also wielding 4 weapons and famous for killing demons asked you if you were cute, you'd say yes too
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>>168088762
I like you. Yokai Watch Musou when?
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>>168088496
Yeah. Oda was around 5 shaku and he was considered insanely tall.
Adult height is linked to freely available calories and proper nutrition growing up and most ate rice, rice, a bit of fish, and more or less locally grown and thus the same limited selection of vegetables.
This meant the average jap was missing a LOT in their diet to stunt growth ontop of physical labor being how most made a living to further divert energy from skeletal growth.
Its why japs are getting taller now that shit like fast food exist.
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>>168088723
Easy mode/10
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>>168088842
Make sure to equip a spirit with Amrita up, equip Amrita up Kodama too.
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>mfw extremely underleveled and undergeared
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>>168088786
>>168088818
>>168088852

damn, game too deep man
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>>168088762
At the end of chapter 3.
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what's the armour that has the long black scarf, looks kind of like the one on the cover. i know i've picked it up before but i can't remember which one it is for refashioning. I wish there was an option to see your character when you're at the starting point
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>>168089241
Youngblood.
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>>168089241
Youngblood armor type. If you open the gear menu, tap the touchpad, you can still see a preview of Wirriam on the mission menu.
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>>168089309
god, i know so little about this game, thanks dude.
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What's cool and fun about Ninjutsu? All I've really been using is stuff like kunai, bombs, fire shuriken. They're useful occasionally and it's cool they refill but they kind of lack any oomph or unique quality.

And Onmyo? Besides the apparently game breaking Morrowind level exploits with Sloth/Carnage or whatever, which I don't want to break the game with.

Am I missing something? Both seem pretty basic debuff/buff focused with Onmyo at best offering the Guardian spirit projectile talisman, which only stands out on account of the effects all being different. If I'm missing something like Smoke bombs or some other random thing which is actually super cool in either of these trees please tell me.
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Anyone know how to get that Kodama in a hole below the spiral staircase on Samurai from Sawayama?
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>yfw Muramasa
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>get a new piece of yellow gear
>allowed to use it for Refashioning
>still can't refashion the Unit Leader's chest piece

I'm going to shit
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>>168089680

Go to the top of the spiral staircase and you'll see some planks propped against a wall.

Break them.
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>>168085838
That's fine and all but... Toughness is useless m8.
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>>168089428
No prob, there's a lot to it and most of it explains it, other parts don't. If you ever have a mechanic or stat question, hit start and try to select whatever it is on an armor or weapon. Usually explains what it does. Otherwise for interface or gameplay stuff, ask here.
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>>168089782
That leads to the second spiral staircase. This kodama is below the staircase you access by going through the hole in the wall to that second staircase.
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>>168089890

Oh, then go back to that big square prison room underground right before you get to the stairs, one of the cells has a tunnel in the back that should lead you there.
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>>168088117
WHY CANTWE GET MOTHPUSSY SPIRIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Level 45, have yet to do "The Ocean Roars Again", super over-leveled?

Anyway when will I start finding Revenants dropping cool Kusarigamas or 2kats, I wanted to do a Kusari/Ninjutsu but Ninjutsu is underwhelming currently and I can't find a good Kusari so ended up just using both WotW 1kats, Raikiri and Yame-water-whatever-sword doing 330~ (is that good damage? I haven't had much issue).

Thinking about a respec to 1Kat, 2Kat and Onmyo. Build specs for something like that?
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>>168090036
Because the moth is a boy.
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whom else picking guardian spirits based on how cool they look?
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>>168089650
Nigger with Ninjutsu I can survive 1 death and then teleport above their head and get a plunge attack on respawn. And it can refill the scroll if I use living weapon using Hanzos gear.
C A L T R O P S are incredible on npc opponents to cause slow to multiple enemies, even yokai or bosses. Turning on invisibility scrolls allows for all kinds of scouting, boss running, twilight cheese shit. Same effect can be granted in battle instead by a smoke bomb, get a good respite to move around and get a breather in.

I don't use them, but poison and paralysis builds are also possible to be a cheeky cunt.


And caltrops are great because you're saving your sloth talisman for bosses. I advise against htem if you want challenge, but otherwise they turn bosses into super slowmo matrix fights.

But the true fun god eternal is the Kekkai talisman. Higher than spirit water Ki recharge and automatic purfiy/dispel on contact buff.

And bombs can crank damage like crazy by building fire proc, and their damage gets high from Ninjutus attack items/points. I too thought shit was just limited projectiles and simple stat buffs but then I started getting some good ninja shit.
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>>168089650
Ninjutsu is all about tools and giving you an answer to EVERYTHING. It also turns a lot of consumables that you'll never use because they go away (AND YOU JUST MIGHT NEED IT LATER) into respawning resources just like elixirs. So you can just casually Bomberman motherfuckers into oblivion without feeling bad, because you'll get another batch at the next shrine. Also the caltrops item can't be blocked at all, and basically guarantees one free hit if they get stepped on thanks to hit stun. Bombs build up super damaging fire procs, and poison damage scales with health, I believe, so it's always good. It also has shit like the run fast scroll, and increased capacity for ammo and healing items. And the invisibility scroll allows for speedrunning shit and other shenanigans.

Onymo, outside of breaking the game with Sloth/Carnage, offers lots of quality of life things. Increased resistance to debuffs, healing talismans, and assorted flavors of <element>ball that are the easiest way to slap Chaos procs onto big nig Youkai. Also with a proper magic build, your infinitely respawning (seeing a pattern here?) element buffs get super fucking strong, so you don't have to bother finding a weapon that has an element built into it.

Magic makes YOUR life easier. Ninjutsu makes your ENEMIES' life harder.
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Anyone else just find mid-stance not that useful? Using single sword and a spear right now, switched to spear because axe wasn't doing it for me
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>>168089686
When does this guy show up? Do I have to do a certain sub-mission or something?
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>accidentally walked into spider bossroom when i was trying to fins the path to the last kodama
>beat boss
>can't leave bossroom
is there no way to get it?
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>>168090413
Yeah its the first bathhouse sub-mission.
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>>168090438
redo the level
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>>168089981
Yep that was the one, thanks.
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>have a really tense almost victory on my first time on snowtits
>die instantly 5 times after
>decide it's time to stop messing around and finally buy sloth and carnage
>destroy 90% of her lifebar with LW square spam anf finish her with a couple mega bombs
slot nerf when
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>>168090162
>Nigger with Ninjutsu I can survive 1 death
Sure, but you can just join a clan that lets you instantly revive from any non-critical death.
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Just got to the teahouse, I'm assuming shimazu clan is best clan?
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>>168090490
fuck me
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>>168090775
But this way it looks cool as fuck, and I can do it multiple times.
AND I get to join the Date clan and keep my dignity.
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Can someone help me with the ninjas in the ship level?
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>>168090846
Yeah totally
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>>168090856
To be fair, this game is all about re-doing missions. So its really not even close to the last time you'll be re-doing one, might as well get used to it now.
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What's the highest stat requirement on armor?
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How the hell do you get the high-five emote to work? Every time I try to do it with someone, we both end up looking retarded standing there.
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So, if i have a set bonus, and a weapon is part of that set, does the bonus only apply when i'm using the weapon, or do i just have to have that weapon equipped? I have a set bonus for a sword but i much prefer using the spear
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>>168090775
Which clan do you speak of?
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>>168091076
Set bonus applies if you have enough pieces of a set to activate a bonus. It could be armor or weapons. You can get a WotW bonus by having a headpiece and the gloves, despite not having the sword or the rest of the set.
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>was playing entire game entirely with ax/1kat
>switched to whip-scythe/1kat
>fun mode initiated
How long till that becomes a crutch?
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>>168090159
Yea I've been using Kato the whole game, might switch to the tiger when I get it
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>>168091071
You have to press square to do the high five motion
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>>168091254
>whip-scythe

What the fuck man, c'mon
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>>168091560
yeah its obviously a flail pick.
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>Some guy shots dual pistols at me
Why don't I get this?
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>>168091657
DLC.

Seriously, it's got Masamune Date in it. SW Date uses dual pistols.
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>>168091774
>>168091774
>>168091774
>>168091774
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>>168089760
Did you lock it? Press Square.
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What's the best clan?
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>>168073926
2kat scales best with skill so you're definitely wasting points in body and strength
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>>168091560
Can't be bothered to look up the long ass Nippon name
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What scales with whip-scythe?
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What are some good Ninjitsu/spells for someone who's not investing much in either. I figure bombs/shurikins/direct spells won't hurt as much if I don't raise my ninjitsu/onmioji power, are poisons/debuffs/other things okay?
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THE FUCK DO I DO AGAINST THE NUE WHEN HE'S OUT OF KI
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>>168095601
hit him?
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