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The secret Tier 1 Edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/

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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

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Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR

FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

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Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/

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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U

Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

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Old thread: >>167788893
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First for best girl!
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LITERALLY 4 DRAGONCRAFT IN A ROW IN THE ARENA
WHYYYYYYYY
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>>167817610
why did you put hsg in OP
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Remember to play Sword and Forest for quality waifus and good decks in the same bundle.
Daria fags need not apply
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>>167817773
Do you hear it yet Anon?
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>>167817869
Rune has some of the cutest cards, though
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best girls
cutest girls
elf master race
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>>167817869
Already doing it anon.
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I want to have consensual sex with Arisa in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation!
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>>167817869
I don't think you know what the word ''waifu'' means. Please go back to /hsg/.
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Real talk, would you play Shadowverse if the following elements were absent from it?

>All the sexual pandering to certain body parts (big tits; big asses, thighs, armpits, feet, etc)
>loli characters
>sexuallized adults
>sugestive voice acting
>a complete rework of blood followers in order to remove the whole semen demon sub theme

Basically anything that is sexual gets replaced with something else, be honest, would you still play?
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good night bloodkin!
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Looking for a concede
22486
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>>167811340
Oh yeah you're sitting solid.

Alright so here's what's up
>https://shadowverse.com/articles/detail.php?id=column-013
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/4qsj49/some_bare_bones_deckbuilding_tips_for_dragoncraft/
Breath of the salamander is a valuable card that lets you trade for value and board clear for value
Oracle/Aeila/Fervor give you additional pp orbs. Letting you play a 4pp follower on T3, a 6pp follower on t4, etc.
Dragon Emissary draws out one of your 5+ pp cards and reduces its cost by 1. A valuable fillter when you hand doesn't fit. And Wyvern Cavalier which reduces the cost of a card in your hand by 2 meaning you can do a stronger combo that turn
Urd supports your storm followers by allowing you to play them, attack face, urd them, then evolve and face again allowing for 12-17 damage from hand. Combined with a later genesis dragon, seabrand dragon, demonic strikes, etc you got a lot of guff to give
Blazing breath/Fire lizard/Dragon warrior/etc have damage effects allowing you to trade the card for value. These also combine with Siegfried/Wild hunt and other chip damages allowing you to trade regular joes for value against high cost fatties and
Serpent force is GOAT to trade a 4pp removal for a foe's 5/6pp evo
Date and Eyfa pull double duty to round your curve and pressure
Sahaquiel+lucifer heals your dmg you took ramping, clears shit, and most importantly, adds even more pressure you put on their leader
Mushussu is another value pressure card like Unica that forces them to stop hitting you in the face and deal with it or be increasingly battered
Goblinmount's a good pp neutral card to soak up aggro shitters or their removal to shield your eyfa/Genesis' down the road
Ramped cost reduced dragonclaw pendants are a slightly more expensive banner that works on spells and most importantly, all those effects you used to chip now kill alone or in combo-
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>>167817876
W-WHAT
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>>167818015
It is the year 2017, waifu in our pop culture is just a word that means "cute/hot anime girl" and "sexy anime girl that I would marry"

It doesn't matter what it meant before to the connoisseurs in /jp/ or in the nip 4chan equivalents.

We took the word and we gave it a western meaning, learn to deal with it.
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>>167818180
Thanks Otohime-sama
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>>167818074
yeah but would I have gotten into it? it would get a lot less "free advertisement" like fan art
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>>167817929
You see, that's not a Daria fag card. Neither is Merlin, which is why they're cute and beautiful.
Now look at any regular Daria deck, the only thing they got going for it is Daria herself, and she's a bitch.
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>>167818074

Yes, they have good skeleton artwork and its a wonderland of artwork that fulfills everything I could want as is.

If they're missing the sexual fun cards, then I just go visit a board on 4chan or I supplement with another game.

Oh, the game's okay too.
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>>167818074
Yes, I want a digital ccg, and this one doesn't suck
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>>167811340
>>167818235
By ramping up, using cost reduction to extend this effect, and heavily trading for value you neutralize any advantage the other player had then run over them by burning out their removal and hand causing them to die

>https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/gamewith-otk-dragoncraft
3 Salamander+3 altered fate and you can play OTK discard dragon which uses wildfangs and altered to smack them with lethal from hand. It's by far the cheapest dragon deck albeit a bit rng on drawing what you need. Though you can tech storm and other disco draw/damage to close that gap.

>https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/master-rank-31-wins-out-50-matches-storm-dragoncraft-soroasutayiteng
You got a good chunk of a decent storm dragon list

>https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/budget-midrange-dragoncraft
Don't have a good budget ramp on hand but you can put together one better than this using ramping, cost reduction, and cards that provide huge value and gain value from overflow to run them over as they can't match the pp value you're shitting out

Do me a favor and meme with a Wyvern cavalier'd Zirnitra. Play her at 6pp on T10, evolve her, use serpent force on her for 6 face then see what they do facing three bodies for 16 face next turn. inb4 didn't topdeck baha concede
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What can I put in/replace to make this better?
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>>167818074
Probably yes. I've been playing Hearthstone for two years now, loved it the whole time, and still enjoy it, but Shadowverse just does what HS did, better. Not to mention that most of my favorite card art and dub lines are from non-sexualized characters anyways (Taboos, Valhallan, Alucard)
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>>167818349
Are you telling me you wouldn't want Daria to spellboost you?
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nerf when?

>inb4 "IT JUST BRICKS LMAO"
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>>167818349
Daria has best girl
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>>167818349
>the only thing they got going for it is Daria herself, and she's a bitch
w-witchette
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>tfw fucked up be ending my turn early
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>>167818462
Levi, piercing rune, Daria and Clarke all need to be nerfed or removed.
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>>167818462
Daria is completely ok. High play rate but only 51% win rate. You just need to git gud
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>>167818462
What the fuck is supposed to brick about Daria anyway?
You draw one and then you spellboost the fuck out of her and play her for basically free.
Then you get like another 5 cards to play for again basically free.
Where the fuck is the brick here?
The chance of not drawing her?
Wow, just like every other, non-aggro decks wincon!
>lol it brix if u dont draw ur wincon wtf
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>>167818462
18 pp, spell-boost lowers cost by 2.
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>>167818454
if she washes those her parts she used to spellboost those oglers
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>>167818478
>>167818535
Uh oh, I'm sorry about that. Emmylou is alright.
>>167818454
I mean, I would, but she is still a bitch.
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>>167817756
not even the first, you failure
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>>167818462
>whining on 4chan changes anything
I hope nobody believes in this
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>>167818175
Good night vampy chan.
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>tfw Erika will never look this good because Cygames will never change to 3D Leader models like this
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>>167818884
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>>167817756
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>>167818884
At least this game actually has good fucking models, imagine even having a slight interest in duelyst and having to look at that god awful art.
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>>167818074
>would you play Shadowverse if the following elements were absent from it?
No
I quit during DE and veight is legit the only reason I've stayed in RoB instead of going on hiatus again
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>>167818692
The deck can brick when it opens multiple Darias, too many Clarkes/Craigs/Golems without followers to spellboost or too many spellboostable followers without cards to spellboost them. However, those situations don't happen as much as people say they do.
Also, half the retards who say the deck bricks a lot think that not getting to Daria = bricking, what is not true at all. The deck doesn't need Daria to win or to flood the board, the deck needs Daria to not run out of resources. Their main strength is absurd amounts of burn + insane board flooding way above the curve, and Daria is not required for any of that.
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need a concede
70937
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>>167818979
Post evil Erika, she's sexier.
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>>167819000
>Duelyst
Is that game even alive still? I quit after they changed from 2-draw.
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design the final card nep needs to be tier 1 /svg/
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>>167819000
Why the fuck did you bring up Duelyst?

Do we need to always compare this game to a shittier game to argue against any improvements Cygames can do?
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>>167819210
It's become sort of a niche game. I don't see it blowing up, but I can't see it straight up dying either. They're introducing a lot of new and arguably interesting stuff to the game. I stopped playing a lot when they gutted shadow-creep and killed the only thing in the game I had fun playing.
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I hurt myself today.
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Which vampire or necro deck allows me easy climbing and expert CPU wins?
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>>167819209
honestly don't know what you are talking about
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>>167819224
7 cost Shadowcraft follower

4/4 6/6

If you have 5 followers of all different costs in play at any time, deal 9 damage to the opponent and destroy this follower

BAM

VIABLE
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>>167819508
The "shadow Erika" with different eyes, from the "campaign". She looks sexier.
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>>167819506
aggro for either, climbing is a numbers game, you don't even need 50% win rate, and speed of games can expedite your climb considerably.
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>>167819224
Last Word: Give creatures on your board Storm
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>>167819574
Which keycards do aggro necro decks use?
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>>167818539
>Attacked first
>When you needed to evo/use a stat booster on it
>When theo ther player uses mentor'steachings on you then giant slayers it

>>167819464
>Identify problems with deck over a period of time
>Identify what could help with that
>Tweak deck
>Repeat
>Accept that the ramp/draw just wont go your way some times
>Some times too long
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need a concede please 21450
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>>167819224
10pp last word Necro(30) your allied followers gain last word: summon a tyrant
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Aight, I can't keep myself up anymore, gonna make something to drink and black out, goodnight /svg/ and remember to play Sword and Forest.
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>>167819786
Stop cheesing
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is soul conversion any good in aggro shadow? i rarely use it
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>>167819786
I gotchu senpai
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>>167817869
>in the same bundle.
what are you talking about? are they announcing something new?
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>>167819543
>same pp as Khawy
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>it's another bullshit loss to roach episode
i hope elf becomes worse than dragon next expansion
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>>167819224
5PP Spell, Necromancy (1): Deal 3 damage to a random enemy minion. Repeat for remaining shadows or until the enemy board is clear.
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>>167819786
fuck you, Tager is better too
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>>167817869

You're waifus are not to die for, though.
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>>167819910
It's good for fishing out things like Howl when your opponent is almost dead but you're running out of juice.
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>>167819224

>3pp spell
>summon 2 skull beasts Necromancy (2): Add a Necromancy card from deck into hand

>>167819910

I usually use it best for conjurer's ghost and a Turn 5 howl in a situation where I know the board is going to get wiped (again) so rather than lose cards for it so I can get more fuel and commit to the field and still be able to get back on it after the themsis, sala etc is played.
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is this used in anything or I just got 2,5k vials for free?
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>>167820110
Used in control decks
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>>167819946
>elf
>not tier 1
>ever
good joke.
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>>167819910
only use it for hell unleasher or if opponent is almost dead and you need a topdeck.
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imo soul conversion takes a spot which can be taken by a 2pp follower of, i dunno, yet another demonic strike since aggro shadow lacks burn
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>>167820110
Used in many stall control decks that consistently get to turn 9.
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>>167819937
exactly, so now you have to decide whether to run Khawy or this in Nephthys decks

It's balanced
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>>167819000
>>167819275
I dunno why you all hate duelyst. It's not appealing enough to me to play without a general but I have no clue why you all think it's pure cancer. It has interesting spatial gameplay you can't find in other card games. Is it literally just because it's run by SJWs?
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>>167820352

Last I heard, they are also being jews now.
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>>167820254
Khawy is broken, people would never drop it, they would most likely run both. You are just adding more RNG to a class that is already full of it.
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>>167819910
use it on a ghost.
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>>167820440
and how does that make it better?

again, it's balanced
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>>167819946
>Spot the havenfag
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>>167820591
But is it fun?
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>>167820352
I don't hate the game, I still play it. I beat both of the new bosses. It being on a plane is something that I really like about the game. I just think they should hire new artist for the generals, because they look god awful. And I'm just mad that they killed shadow-creep, but I just switched to another cancer.
>>167820383
The devs added loot boxes and shit just like every single f2p game out now.
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kek
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>>167820810
everyone hates otk roach, hope this helps.
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>>167819224

>3PP 2/2
>last words:Restore 2 defense to your leader

There.
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>>167819910
Useful whenever you have a Reaper out or to fish for finishers in later turns.
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>>167820828
>But is it fun?

Of course!
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>>167820867
>The devs added loot boxes and shit just like every single f2p game out now.

I still remember when the devs used to post threads and advertise a bit on /v/. Never expected them to go this jew this soon
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Need a concede for dailies kind anons

31349
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will my penis be ok
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>>167821109

I wouldn't know anon.
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>>167819946
Nah, the next xpak is gonna be:

Forest: titania's works on petal fencers/T3 faeries, Leo's resolve-esque T3 of petal fencers, an amulet with a cd that gains 1t when at least 3 cards are played that turn that gives faeries/petal fencers/t3 rush so it actually stays up unlike SOME elf that eats shit immediately then loses you the game as a result, more tempo support leading into non-roach win cons that aren't removal bait like canopies/gigas or useless like forest dragon., more fairy producers that aren't suicide, more low-mid cost combo consumer cards
Sword: More tempo support, ambush royal support, and heals/healing wards to fuck the meta in the ass. Specifically def boosters or even higher atk boosts for the tempo
Rune: More snowman, mid-tier snowmen cards, when a spell is cast, and dirt rune support. Especially golem support.
Dragon: More draw and a cheaper uriel for flute/spire memes, more disco support, JO dragon support, a bunch of stuff based around megalorcas to give dragon a tempo deck, and some additional pp gain/pp reduction for thicker ramp
Shadow: Bunch more shadow generation, more healing wards, and more last words/Adds last words cards
Blood: Vengeance gets huge support turning it to T1, Curve of blood themed timeless witches that shit out 2-3 semi-weak timeless witches so you can use soul dealer to vengeance and live while literally every deck can otk you from hand at that point, more gimmick cards making bats useful if you didn't lethal by t7.
Haven: More low pp-high cd-high value amulets making eido-skullfam great again, full curve of spell immune followers, golds that add immune to damage/transform spells and effects, some more healing enhance shit for sun/elana

Neutral: Does nothing but motherfucking sit on its goddamn fucking hands so Neutralcraft powercreep doesn't get worse than it already is
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Have you guys seen my daugtheru? I heard she got bullied out of the meta.
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>>167821290
Cygames wants to buff archetypes that aren't getting played so Dshift will get more cards along with Discard Dragon
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>>167821349
Doesn't aggroblood still use her?
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>>167821084

Thanks!
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>>167821290
>>167819946
They could also expand the class mechanics with increased board/hand size, amulet only board slots, drains increase beyond max hp with vengeance functioning as a percentage of your current hp. (activates at 40 current hp), unlocking unfilled max pp orbs, retaining some/all pp, global shadow gain multiplier/cost reduction while in play, adds/returns x cards to the deck (to help with deckouts)

>>167821358
Dshift needs to fucking die forever and I don't think they'll make a 1x only "ban" list either.
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>>167821349
Succubus in training.
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>>167821349
2/3 would have been GOAT.
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>>167821349
>tfw mini-soul devil is actually the stuffed toy and not the little girl
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>>167821465
she trains on the soft toys

that plushie has seen some things
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I wonder could you link your English account with the Japanese Shadowverse account??
Because im trying out the Japanese version and it takes alot longer to install then the English wow
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>>167821358
They should buff the really really bad archetypes first that don't even have T3 decks at all like Laelia or Mana Elk
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>>167821465
>>167821948

Don't badmouth my daugtheru. She's cute and pure.
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is there a better feeling in SV?
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>>167821993

Laelia is her own archetype, sure

Mana Elk is not an archetype by himself, he's part of a gameplan where you chuck fairies on the board and try to add value to them.
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>>167822126
Yes, I unexpectedly made an opponent concede when I started roping him because he BM spammed me on the first turn because I wanted to make him suffer for his win when I got a shit hand
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>>167822126
>unga blood

kys
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>>167822219
I'm pretty sure he can be an archetype whereby you only run followers with 1 power
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>>167822219
he has the same problem as Archer, necropolis queen, wight, etc in that they just get blown up and nothing happens.

>>167822126
When my daria chemo deck breaks you harder than bruce wayne's back.
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>>167822126
i dont follow, why dont they just concede with the button? are they on phone and just close the game or what
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What decks do you think are the most fun to lose to? I always love fighting against Nep, and getting cucked by Roach is also pretty funny to me for some reason.
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>>167822619
Just closing the game gives the other player that wait for around 20 seconds, so salty dudes like to do that
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>>167822623
I always laugh when I get killed by OTK dragon or conjuring force.
It just gives you that reality shock that the game is more than just levi and piercing rune.
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are we dying
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>>167822623
Thorn burst forest
Ambush royal
Cursed general combo royal
Castle Arthur's Resolve
Snowman conj force rune
Dirt rune
Discard dragon
Full JO dragon
Flute memes
T2 Atomeme tyrant
Vengeance bloodcraft
Eido-Skullfam Count havencraft
Full neutralcraft

Just knowing that I got noscoped by memes and this absolute madman has the chutzpah to take it into ranked to make the meta great again makes me feel all tingly inside

>>167822862
People who aren't neets are asleep or going to sleep soon. The discord sucked a lot of the underaged trash off so we weren't burning through a thread every 90 minutes too.
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>>167822623
Rose queen games are always fun, playing as or against
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Shit I love love the japanese dub But IT will take doubly long to reroll for more then 5 Legends since installing takes like 20 minutes while the english version takes 3 Minutes I dont know damn
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>>167822623
I enjoy any match where I get blindsided by them not using what you would expect.

Dirt rune, disco dragon, rose queen, anything satan, etc.
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>>167822623
Anything but Daria and Roach
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>>167823215
What do you mean installing?
You don't need to reinstall anything on your phone when rerolling, just clear game cache.
And I don't think you can reroll on steam.
Even if you could, you'd still be better off downloading an android emulator, rerolling on the phone version there, and then linking your two accounts.
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>>167823215
???
You can just use the undub from the op if you want the jap voices. And don't fall for the reroll meme, it really isn't necessary in this game.
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>>167823748
Im on Ios so I have to delete then reinstall the game and stuff its a long process and I wish cy would add an option to the global version to change the voice over between japanese and english

If theres a playable browser version like for granblue fantasy Thats japanese I Will try and play it
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>>167823313
>Oh man what the heck? The dragon didn't play anything again! Dude's gotta have bricked so hard haha. This will be eas...
>You lose!
I hope I remember meeting my first disco king for years

>>167823748
Can't steam reroll sadly, Bluestacks went premium, and AndyOS is a piece of hot garbage.
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>>167824069
>Bluestacks went premium
When? I rerolled using bluestacks like a month and a half ago.
And even then, there's like 10 different android emulators.
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>>167824069
Nox works fine for me. I play FE:Heroes and Ragnarok Mobile on it.
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>>167823912
Undub?
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>>167823918
use an android emulator like nox or bluestacks
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>>167824129
Weird ad shit

>>167824164
Here goes, thanks man, I got the pack fever somethin fierce.
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>>167824164
oh nox is a thing now? i remember being a literal who when it appeared, i hope it doesnt go scam like everything that starts obscure and free
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>>167824391
Yeah, it works pretty great.
You can make macros and run multiple emulators at the same time. I used it to reroll on FE and get 2 *5 in like 2-3 hours.
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Just pulled Zirnitra. Is this card just totally useless?
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>>167824645
She's not very good. You can make use of her on some meme dragon decks.
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>>167824745
So every dragon deck then?
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>>167824645
For the most part. If you traded for value well to have an evo left, you can drop a 3/1 storm, 5/5, 5/5 on Turn 6 then bm emotex3
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>>167824864
>Kaiba tearing up his blue eyes white fafnir.gif
Baha was a mistake
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>>167824645

Saw a list this format that ran her as a value card in some kind of midrange deck where its heaviest card was olivia
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i have 3160 gold and these are my only legos, wat to do
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Reminder to kill yourself if you play Daria.
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>>167825212
Why so few roaches?
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>>167825212
>dykecucks
>calling anything trash
uh
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why doesn't aggro blood pick that flowerbed amulet (together with dark general)
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>>167825061
If you run emissaries and cavaliers with zirnitra and olivia you should be able to bypass the usual problems by being able to vomit evo'd "rush" dragons at shit until it dies

>>167825171
>>167825171
Neutralcraft with a baha/luci win con.

You can play aggro rune/haven/blood/dragon/sword for a month to fill out your card list
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>>167825212
is it a concealed momposting

also
>losing to vampires so much
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>>167825395
You're a fucking idiot
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>>167825395
>why doesn't aggro blood pick that flowerbed amulet
but I do

>(together with dark general)
not that though
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>>167825545
>not that though
but they should go well together
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>>167825395
Takes up a board slot when you really want to flood it so you always have something to evo and hit face with. When you draw it any point after turn 1 it's pretty dead too as you don't get to wait out the full 4 turns of it.
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>>167825402
explain further
i managed to get to d2 with my own forest/runecraft decks, lately feels like im losing a lot but im not sure if im shit or my cards are not good enough
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>>167825683
I understand you'd like to play your own decks but are you using key cards for those crafts?
For example, having Levi and Piercing Rune for runecraft or Ancient Elf for forestcraft.
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>>167825683
Keep/make list of your mulligan choices, where you lose tempo, where you gained tempo, how you won/lost for like 20 games. Then come pack and post a jpg of your deck and neutral+leader legos+golds.
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>>167826001
>list of your mulligan choices, where you lose tempo, where you gained tempo, how you won/lost for like 20 games
what te fuck
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>>167826041
Alright so "mulligan" is when you select 0-3 cards to redraw. Keep track of what you had, what you choose to redraw, and what you got

Keep track of what you used to gain control of the game and where you lost it

Keep track of what killed you then work backwards
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>>167826158
Why do people callit mulligan anyway, and not, you know, simply redraw?
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>>167826389

It's a term that became standard because Magic had been using it for years
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>>167826542
Magic took it from Golf
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>>167826389
>Because we've always done [pants on head retarded thing] that way comic.bmp
And why do people call search for x tutor?
Why is aggro called like 6 different things?
Why does whalegames make non-aggro prohibitively expensive so we could maybe have a non-cancer meta?

because people are weird and insane
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>>167826621
what do they even redraw in golf?
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>>167826662
Jargon spreading between hobbies is hardly insane. It's mostly just convenient because that way people already know what you're talking about.

>>167826695
If I remember correctly, it's a casual variant where you can redo your first swing if it's super shit.
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>>167825996
well i cant use these because i either dont or cant craft it
i prefer to play the game by myself learning it the hard way first hand but lately feels like im getting stuck easily so i kind of need a word of two on where to go from/what should i aim for now
>>167826001
that sounds like a good idea but not worth it yet, whats d2 on doto terms, 2.5/3k? pretty much trash
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>>167826695
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulligan_(games)
When can you use a mulligan in golf?
A mulligan is a second chance to perform an action, usually after the first chance went wrong through bad luck or a blunder. Its best-known meaning is in golf, whereby a player is informally allowed to replay a stroke, even though this is against the formal rules of golf.
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>>167826769
oh, i thought you were offered 3 random golf clubs and you could change them once or something
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>>167826662
>Why does whalegames make non-aggro prohibitively expensive so we could maybe have a non-cancer meta?
We have a cancer meta and the two biggest sources of cancer can run only 3 legends each.
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>faggot dragon banish all my three seraphs
Remember guys always tech three Odins.
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Why is Feena a 5/6 that summons a free 2/2?
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>thorn burst costs 2
>crimson sorcery costs 1 and is way more useful
you can't fucking defend this
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>>167826898
Even a bargain dumpster deck has a lot of power, what it doesn't have in 3x legos and golds for consistency it makes up for in flexibility, mulligan choice, knowing when and what to evolve, when to face/trade, what removal to take and what to use it, being able to reliably trade for value, and holding/taking the tempo of the game to empty their hand and chip them to death before they get their win con out.

>>167826965
Let me meme with ambush royal without needing to take out a loan damnit.

>>167827030
He could have just took a better deck and have killed you before you could play 1
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>>167827101
Because the shit she competes with are 4/5s that do a free 3 damage and a 4/4 that does 3 damage for 1 mana inevitably followed up three times by doing 4 damage for 1 mana.
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>>167827114
Not really. He didn't banish her for 2 rounds. If I had one more removal I would win.
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>>167827106
>the craft about spells gets better spells
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
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>>167827394
>the craft about board flooding is the best at flooding the board
jk that's also the craft about spells
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>>167827114
>knowing when and what to evolve
this is like a really big issue now since i feel like i waste them too much and cant predict removals and shit, i guess im not playing enough
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>>167827394
>the craft about faggot pixie magic is only allowed to win with a fuckign bug because the devs won't allow other win conditions to be good
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54222 concede please
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>>167827472

Unless you are playing Rune where Levi is a no-brainer, you can sometimes choose to just a removal to gain/reset the board.
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what if rose queen instantly converts all allied fairies on the field and casts them for free
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>>167827101
She already gets half evo power meaning she's probably not gonna survive if you crash her into their evo like most players do with their T5 evo. Lionel lets you play a <5pp forest card from your hand for free. Pegasus elf kills whatever can be targeted. Monika summons a knight, kills their weakened t4 evo and effect kills whatever else they had forcing a rush/removal/evo on t6 or eat 5 face. tmog wyrm is a 6/7 that turns some half dead piece of shit into a 5/5. Soulhungry wraith is near guaranteed 7 face T6. Charon is a 6/7 with a 4/4. Commander of destruction is a T5 7/8. Mastema is 8/8 bane face that has to be dealt with immediately. A soul eater that can't or wont be killed followed by a death's breath quickly rips the game away/etc.

>>167827106
Almost everybody is gonna get a range of timeless witch cards ranging from an on-stat on curve follower, and a cheaper follower than fanfares 1-2 other weaker ones to avoid the dod it then face for 2590290509 meme
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>>167827778
Not sure I have the surviving ones for that. People have a penchant for gobbling up my stupid little faeries. If it was an additional effect sure I guess though I imagine that might conflict with any attempt to tempo with stat boosts and the other fairy boosts.
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anyone got an updated aggro blood list?
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>>167818074
Yeah, I play SV to play card games.
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So why is mentor teaching not play in non-aggro deck? It's basically a better insight. Without spellboosting of course.
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>>167827564
thanks man i love you !
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>>167827564
>Bricked
>No plea, Mainyu, or cloud chorus anyway
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>>167828397
The spell boost is like half the reason you run that card though.
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>>167828397
Insight is good because it's a draw neutral 1pp spellboost that fills in your leftover pp and also cheaply lets you immediately roll the dice for a topdeck if you're fucked unlike needing to get a dingdong out so you can crash it into something if you need a draw to fix your hand.
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>>167828397
Further, you have much less loose pp to spare in royal. Unlike rune that also gets reduced cost followers and spells you have to slug it out raw dog all the way on what you got or you die.
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>>167828961
>you have much less loose pp to spare in royal
This is the main reason. In a real control deck it would be a good card purely as deck thinner
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>when the turn 4 double reaper hits just right

Where my reapahbros at?
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>>167829923
Do you meme with phantom dragon?
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>>167829923
>Olivia
What is this meme?
>>
Do you really need 3 Seraphs in a Pure Seraph deck?

Can it just be 2?

I got lucky in my packs for the past 2 days and completed all golds needed for it. Just missing 3 more cards, and I have 1 Seraph.
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>>167829923
>There were people who thought reaper sucks when he got revealed.
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>>167830130
you can use 2 but you might want to use satan as an alt wincon against control decks if you do
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>>167829990
I'm not gonna lie, I don't know why Olivia is in that deck. I'm reasonably sure I added her when I got drunk last night.

>>167829979
I want to, but he really is a super piece of shit.
Tyrant and Atomeme are good enough for me.
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>>167830130
2 can work but 3 gives you more consistency. You need to add another win con if you don't have 3 as you're very reliant on it.


>>167829923
Chemo bros unite
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>>167829923
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>>167829923
>olivia in aggro shadow
hello B0
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>>167829923

Right here.
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>>167830259
Well I do have 1 Satan.

That leaves one more card. I'm 39/40 for that now.

I have one Odin though. Maybe I can sneak that?
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>>167830349
Coco 2pp +2/0
Ethereal form 2pp Necro(4) gives +2/0
Malicious ghost 4pp gives +2/2 random
Curse of rebirth 4pp Gives +2/0
Keen enchantment - 2pp give an allied follower +2/0
Cloud Chorus - 3pp Give +0/+3 to an allied follower
Wind God - 5pp Fanfare give +1/+0 to all allied followers. At the start of your turn, all allied followers gain +1/+0
Gabriel - 7pp Fanfare give +4/+3 to an allied follower

Fucking board clear/transforms reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>167830349
who would think olivia was clingy
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Is getting top 1000 in master easy?
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>>167830753

Currently only #4000+ with 2400 MP. I will let you judge.
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why have people suddenly remembered cloud chorsu
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>>167830623
If this were one expansion ago I might have given it a go, but fuuuuck non-targeted removal.

I think a stealth meme would be great, but I'd use Tenacious ghost and that other silver who gets it off necro instead.
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>>167830807
Well, thanks.
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>>167830753
you have to constantly climb to be at top 100/1000 at the end of the month
so, no
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Sword and blood are done, five more to go.
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>>167830130
2 is the norm for elana seraph
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>>167830908
I'll be the first to say it, Bahamut was a worse decision than not only daria or OTK roach, but both of them combined.

Soulhungry wraith
T5 it's at 7/7 for 4 necro
T6 etheral form+ curse of rebirth for 11/7
T7 gaberiel for 15/10 to face
Then get DoD'd
Reeeeeeeee
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>>167831101
What is this. A deck for ants?
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Ugh I really wish they would take out the extra evolve in arena when going second. Like it evens out pretty well in constructed a lot of the time, but I cant even count how many times I have lost just because I had less evolves. They already have a notable card advantage, that evolve is fucking bull.
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This will never stop feeling amazing.
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Heal for sword when
Good board clear for sword when
Cyclone is not good
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>>167831573
Yeah, you can't guarantee your trade shit

>>167831656
It's a 5pp board clear though and your gimmick is around using followers and stat boosts to trade for shit. Use arthurian light and stat boosters.
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How does Roach OTK get around wards?
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>>167831656

>heal for sword

Here. Actually a better play than Unica because you will get the 2 defense heal right away.
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>>167831829
Bounce, crashing your board into it to open the way
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>>167831829
Dance of Death and Pixie Mischief.
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>Plays elf deck
>Doesn't use elves or fairies
>Uses disgusting bugs
Explain yourself shadowbabbs
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>>167831849
Seconded. I prefer her over White Paladin. I run Unica too though.
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>>167831994
Bug-dono needs breeding grounds!
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>>167832071

Unica cannot trade into two 2-drops, though, but yeah, no reason not to run both of them.
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>>167830590
Post current list.
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63567 concede please.
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>>167832572
Thanks immortal man
>>
>play control
>go first vs other control
>lose cause of 1 less evolve and didn't draw olivia
>go 2nd vs aggro
>lose cause they perfect curve and didn't draw my wards fast enough
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
Man Daria is goddamn dumb. Like I feel like she would still be 100% solid if she didn't have the spellboost cost-lowering effect. But holy shit she's just insane.
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4 players in a row were blood aggro. What is happening? Do they hate winning?
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>>167832913
Why can't you removal or trade for value through 1 evo and a card of draw value?
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OMG

OMG OMG

OM EM GEE

KRIPP WILL BE STREAMING SHADOWVERSE TOMORROW

I REPEAT

KRIPP

IS

GOING

TO

STREAM

SHADOWVERSE

!!!!!!!!!!


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>167833063

No saltnad? He made me laugh at how ridiculous his reasoning is.

>daria with carrot
>complaining about aggro as shadow
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>>167831656
never
sword is cancerous already
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What's your reason for not playing the best deck in the game anon?
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>tfw

It's my alt account though. Already have 2 Merlin on my main.
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>>167833192
I don't want to do maths.
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>>167833192

Simple. I hate elves. Will gladly make them into zombie chows.
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>>167833192
I'm not having fun with it.
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>tfw it finally happened
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>>167833241
>tfw want to play MTG but too expensive and no good online client
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>losing streak against random fucking shit decks because you can't play around anything they do
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>>167833207
It's not that hard anon.

>>167833241
>t. Rowen

>>167833247
I prefer tempo forest myself but it doesn't win me games and I'm aiming for top 1k this month. Probably will start grinding like an autist once I'm done with my project next week.
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>literally forced 50
Shadowbabs will defend this.
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>>167833424

t. Shitter who thinks he is a hipster playing the tyrant from last expansions

I got Will of the fuckers too many times to enjoy playing this shitty class.
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>>167832987
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO9d2PpP7tQ
Every single day destitute shadowverse players wake up in their heap of dead bats to begin another day of trying to gain even a measly 50 score an hour. These wretched souls rerolled the best they could, but even that and their easy grab packs were not enough to crate viable decks in this metastasized tumor meta. In their desperation they turned to banner memes. Storm haven. Storm dragon, Aggro blood. Sadly, the chemo teching against the Daria roach scourge slaughters them in droves leaving nothing for these poorfags.

So they toil again, game after game where even perfect draws are not enough to save them. They toil for 3,4,5 hours a day just to finish their dailies if they can even finish. Entire weeks to advance one score reward. They cannot win because they do not have enough packs and they cannot get packs because they don't have the cards to win.

Please bm "Don't let it get to you" and concede to help suffering aggro blood players to move out of the D ranks and into a control blood today


>>167833063
So what, he didn't even whale full deck lists and he's in B rank or something else sad on top of misplaying shit.

>>167833192
Doing my part to help the meta not be cancer faggot.
>>
May I please have a concede?
39980
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>>167833269
Some of you hags are alright. Don't go into ranked right now.
>>
Why are the top Nip streams almost always nothing but Forest?
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>>167833531
>will of the forest
>tempo forest
Tempo forest requires you to dump fairies on board and buff them with cynthia, wind god or gabriel so wotf isn't used there. Forest is far from being shitty since it doesn't play dude on curve.

>>167833564
Says the guy who main control shits. I hope you run into 100 dshift in a row so you can't play your usual game by stalling the game till turn 30 while your opponent can't do any sort of counterplay against your 2 billion removals and wards.
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>>167833753
Thank you!
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I'm so tempted to spend it just to have that nice round number, but then the winnings are just gonna ruin it all again.
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>>167833152
>saltnad
He is past being "salty" he is just whiny.
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What the fuck
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>>167833753

>>167833806
It's powerful and consistent.

>>167833770
In 2 years i'll be able to play a Limil's way soul-dealer vengeancecraft to make you proud.
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>>167833770
>Not going full neutralcraft.
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>>167833839

All I see is that fucking elf whore and a probably evolved roach for lethal. Why do I need to sprain my brain to figure out whether if it is fucking PTP, Tempo or roach when I hate the whole class?
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>>167833880
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>>167833968
but then I can't play azazel
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>>167833880
Really spellboost your Oglers
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>>167832993
Because the opponent can do the exact same to you and you end up at a loss cause the opponent has 1 more evolve.
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>>167833976
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This is my waifu Vampy. Say something nice about her.
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>another maintenance on tuesday

What's up with that?
https://shadowverse.jp/news/maintenance/news-0117
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>>167833152
>>complaining about aggro as shadow
control/last words shadow heavily suffers from aggro

>>167834149
i think it's hard to count of how many guys she was waifu
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>>167834149
She doesn't have themis.
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>>167834169
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>>167833192
But I'm playing it
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>>167834167

>control/ast words shadow heavily suffers from aggro

Not when you have Healing Angel and Spartoi Soldier around, and he added neither to his deck.

You know what's the kicker to all this? He has 0 霊 Null Death's Breath and Foul Tempest.

Really makes you think, eh?
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>>167834059
Do you believe in the heart of the cards?

>>167834150
They just rolled out in gookland. Likely fixing hiccups.
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>>167833192
I've never gotten a single ancient elf.
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>>167834249
yes it does
check its stats, it has around 30% winrate vs all aggro
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>>167834150
FREE PACKS?
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>>167834150
GBF collab
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>>167834150
>5 hours
The hell they are doing?
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47180

Need a concede please
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>>167834167
Spartois, Carrot, foul tempest, wight king, commander, Rider/death's breath, etc. If your draws are shit, soul converson and attendant/unleasher get you some nerds up on top of zombie guy and the other last word cards ensuring you're throwing fits every turn.
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>>167834221
Did you start grinding from ladder reset anon?

>>167834270
Craft them.
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>>167833880
Just themis bro
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How memetastic is Lionel in Roach OTK?
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>>167833806
On Twitch? You get a better variety of players on Nico, pretty much most of the top 100 in Masters stream.
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>>167833192
>>167834221

Really wish I got more time per day to grind it up.
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>>167834270
Ancient elf is core across their entire deck list.

>>167834418
Try him and find out.
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>>167834418

>turn 5 do nothing

Only works if you are dealing with reactive control decks.
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Looking for someone to help concede to a private match daily

85102
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>1st
>1st
>1st
>1st
>1st
Fuck this coinflip game holy fuck. Rock paper scissors to decide when??
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>>167834360
just check its stats
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>>167834363
I had 20k in last month.
This month I wanted to see my name in top 100. Not anymore tho.
I'm aiming top 1000 too anon
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>>167833180
>t3 classes are cancer
D0?
Do you complain about Blood too?
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>>167834509
>>167834509

Anyone guys ?
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>>167834615
Boxing match to decide order when?

>>167834753
It's been 6 minutes, just spank your baby maker
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>>167834509

Thanks eris !
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>>167834746
He complains about anything that beats his autopilot deck when he misplays
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>>167834426
Nip meaning Japanese, so yes on Nico. It seems like the top streams are always Forest, then everything else is some mix of Blood and Daria.
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>>167835103
What happened?
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>watching thejordude, he is in top50 masters
>someone asks him to play control sword
>"Uhh, may be not in ranked"
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>>167835103
>>167835179
Please don't. There's >>>/adv/ for that.
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>>167835184
Really enhances the albert
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>>167835103
Emotionally accept what happened, it's over with, drop it, and move on instead of carrying it everywhere?
I think you need to edge to playing a dragonflute+wyrm spire deck to rehabilitate yourself.

>>167835184
>Killing your score with a deck that's suicide incarnate
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>>167834618

Personal experience > you're stats

MP gain is the only proof I need and I will love fighting more aggro variant.
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So does bloody mary+bloodfed flowerbed do 2 damage/turn to the other player?
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>>167835347
>>167835349
i just really like to play control sword for some reason
I wish it was good
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>>167835184
>Control deck with shitty draw, no healing and shitty board clears
>Viable at high rank
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>>167835475
Well, it's decent against OTK roach, so here is that
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don't i hate doing rune dailies

fucking daria bricks 300% of time

>>167835435
so, my personal experience i stomp control/nep shadow with aggro blood and aggro shadow

but unlike your personal experience mine is also supported by shadowlog i.e. by the experience of hundred other players
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>>167835475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swisi8t0cn4&list=PLCC0B4A7C5C720161

>>167835548
Attempt to tweak your deck composition. You have very good cards to choose from
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>open the catalog
>lazily scroll down
>click on the luna thread
>it's /gbfg/
Why do we have some muddy-colored dragoon as our OP picture?
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>>167835627
Because memerites master is dank when he doesn't take your noxious dragon serious then gets melted by your sicc draw engine
Because JO has made dragon great again
Because gbf has a sv collab now/soon
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Private Match Daily 95447
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>>167835447
Just wait till daria nerf and CS will be tier 1
Literally no point in playing control sword atm when aggro has a better winrate overall
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>>167835768
But it also has shitty matchup against other control decks
It's not only daria
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>>167835535
if you get lucky and draw your taunts and heals. cancer roach has way more consistency since it can tutor the only card it truly cares about whereas maid leader is rng, even if it's a favored matchup you'll still lose at least half of your games against them.
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>>167835548
>daria bricking
This NEVER EVER happens to my opponents.
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>>167835745
Thanks, anon.
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>have to deal with memes in the sky if I want bahamut

Thanks
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>>167835768
Everybody's going to get a bunch of high value wards that heal, timeless witch clones, and Liza's all along their curve featuring leader gimmicks. They have the aggro and late-game solid, they just need those to bring midrange back creating an interesting meta where quickly adapting to the current meta will let you farm netdecking retards
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>>167835801
>sword
>heals
what
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>>167835931
unica and healing angel
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>>167835903
ez right
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>Arthurian light and Leonidas are both golds
>Probably wont get banner and you kind of don't want to since you can't attack your own amulets to make space
;_;7

>>167835931
Unica, healing angel, Lucifer. Lucifer's great in that it can bypass wards to damage the enemy leader on top of some good bulk. If you feel he's blown his removal load you have him fucked.
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>>167835446
Yes
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>>167835548

Your idea of a control shadow is one running attendant for urd shenanigans or something, right? Those are not control.
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>>167835951
unica is a 2/2 ward and i don't run healing angels just because i want more removals
>>167835996
yeah, just topdecked him against aggro and won. It's too slow against daria tho
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i am a pussy, after clawing with claws and teeth my four rune wins i will go to take 5th win in unranked, playing daria makes me feel tired/

meow
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_______ Master titles when?
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What are the most prestigious Flairs? Surely there's something better than Unbridled Madness.
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>>167836360
https://twitter.com/LowolyMa/status/806110621649375232
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>keep losing to control decks with bahamut cause I don't have my own
>thinking how much I need my own set of bahamuts
>first pack I open today has a bahamut
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>>167836409
I still haven't ran into this guy despite playing against roro 3x.
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>>167836519
You just need more anon.
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>>167806412
Jesus Christ refine your list and stop running underpowered cards like Wild Hunt and Dragonification.

This is my current list that was doing pretty well all considering.
Needs more Uriels, 1 Poly Roar, 1 Urd and maybe a Date or two instead of the Mushys.
>>
>Mouse is sticking
>Play the wrong card
>Probably about to lose to the experienced level AI
>T-Thanks
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>>167835903
Fangblade is better than Bahamut
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>>167836716
Don't think you need amulet tutors.

Poltphonic will come really later anyway
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>>167836798
The goal is to drop Poly as soon as possible, turn 7 is possible.
Yeah you could drop Uriel tutors if you add a 3rd Roar, but you have to realise if you drop Poly Roar turn 8+ it's gonna get Odin'd and Bahamut'd
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Need a quick concede
60911
Have some fine anime ass
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>>167836716
Thanks senpai
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>getting all bronze 1 silver in pack
i bought it with crystals too
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>>167818074
At this point, probably, but I absolutely never would have gotten into it without those things.
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>think for a while preparing the roach combo
>the enemy elf who failed to kill you with theirs surrenders
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>Get punished by daria for playing followers
Damn this game is fun
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Is golden's dragon den anything but suicide? It's ramp cycle but it clogs the board and you can't field it and rites for flute or pendants for effect spam
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>>167836889
Thanks anon
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Guess Can't attack makes the AI go retarded
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>Run an anti-Daria deck on ladder
>Lose 15 matches against non-Daria
>Crush all 2 Darias I run into
I regret nothing
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>>167837390
I stopped to counter daria in my rank no one play that deck anymore they are like 5% of my ladder.
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Reminder that Isabelle still needs correctional rape for her evil ways with Daria, dshift and bullying shadow with earth rite.
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imo dragon with owl guardians and fervors is more cancer than daria
>>
bye faggots
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>>167837505
>Hasn't seen Emissary Fervor, play a cavalier, then play a fervor
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>>167837534
Consider that maybe card games aren't for you? In some 200 years they've never made a ccg that isn't cancer.
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>>167837448
>>167837390
I'm AA1 and they're at least 25% of my games.
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>>167837664
Forest is famous here.

But is rreally easy to counter desu
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>>167837560
fucking dragon almost won despite he memed with poly roar because drag warrior + owl guardian + goblinmount + 2 fervors

fucking cancer, healing shouldbe removed from the game imo

i hope he was mad when i finished him with a golem that he couldn't remove + blade mage + dod on goblinmount + d. strike when he thought he already won
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>>167837661
here >>167837534 all card games are like this.

but the only with miracle/magical creation from nothing is HS.

>pic
RNG
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>>167837274
They wait until they have a follower that can survive the attack otherwise they think it's a waste.

Which it kinda is if the other guy is out of evos.
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>>167837889
I can guarantee your opponent was not as angry over this card game as you are.
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>>167837889
We gushed health, had ramp issues, and hand ran out leaving us a topdeck death
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Are you upset?
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>>167837940
>
yugioh has a lot of problems but rng isnt one of them
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>>167838021
>Yugioh
>Trampy sleeve
No
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>>167838021
>vampy sleeves
KYS yourself
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CHARGE YOUR CRYSTALS FOR ME, I'M GOING IN! t5 soon(tm)
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>>167837889
If I knew I made somebody this mad because they almost lost to an off meta build with their T1 deck, I wouldn't be mad at all.
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>>167838021
Yu gi oh still a good game.

the only problem for me is money
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>>167835349
Gonna need source on that sir please :3
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>>167838172
Rowen smiling is a bliss
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>>167838128
R4nk was a mistake.
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btw, isn't owl guardian better than goblinmount?

>>167838210
if you check shadowlog, ramp dragon despite having 47.79% winrate overall has 51.6% vs tempo rune, so i played vs my counter
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>>167838283
Filename

>>167838305
Thank you JO brothers for sending me your power
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>>167838376
I'm dumb as all hell excuse the indecorum, Thanks tho!
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>>167838376
Good job! Don't let your memes be dreams!
>>
what the fuck did i just vs, a combination of dirt rune, Dshift and Daria all rolled up into one
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>>167838339
>btw, isn't owl guardian better than goblinmount?
Owl have a better evolve effect and can deal with 3 followers from daria really easy
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>>167838339
Goblinmount demon 5pp, 3/7 ward deal 3 damage to all other allied followers, 5/9 evo
Owl guardian 6pp 4/6 ward, 5/7 evo ward, discard one of your lowest and deal 5 damage to an enemy

Honestly, I'd rather just lizard+sieg or cavalier something for a power turn 7

>>167838484
Dude probably doesn't have a card set
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>>167838581
Is almost impossible to goblinmount not be DoDed t5.

Owl can be evolved kill daria and kill one ogler.
Discard can be a pain but owl still strong.
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>>167838581
>Honestly, I'd rather just lizard+sieg or cavalier something for a power turn 7
those aren't wards though
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>>167838762
Owl can kill 2 followers and be removed from something
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>>167838652
>>167838843
Most of the decks run only 2 DoD so goblinmount being removed will most likely protect your Lucifer which you can drop a couple of turns later. It's fine.
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*satan cat waiting room*
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>>167839093
30-40 more minutes
for honor open beta is like 2 hours away
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>Shadowverse story mode continues in granblue fantasy
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Dead game
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The one time I queue up as aggro versus dragon, his turns are something else

>turn 3/4 Imprisoned dragon
>turn 5/6 Goblinmount
>turn 7 Owl Guardian
>turn 8 Neptune
>turn 9 Owl Guardian into evolved LIZARDMAN

I think OTK roach scarred this man for life.
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>>167839582
Daria killed it
I'm not having any fun and i don't think i will have it until the next expansion comes and fucking murders the game by creating the unholy abomintaion of the TIER ONE META DECK which is going to be so fucking retardedly overwopered Daria will be remembered as a nice and fair deck.
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>>167839668
Roach is only strong when everyone is playing aggro without wards.

yeah fuck elf
>>
>Going to be gone for the rest of the month
>Won't be able to get Feena sleeves
Fuck
>>
>Blew all my vials on a sword ambush deck
What have I done
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>>167838652

the chance to have dod on t5, let's count it
if you run 2 dod the chance to get a copy (assuming you didn't get one yet) on the first draw is 2/40, on the second it's 2/39 etc, if you run 3 it's obviously 3/40, 3/39, 3/38 etc

i suppose you don't mulligan for dod so, the chances not to get it in the initial 3 cards are like this:

2 dod - 38/40*37/39*36/38
3 dod - 37/40*36/39*35/38

then, if you go second you also draw 6 cards and if you go first you draw 5 cards from t1 to t5, so it will be something like:

2 dod (1st) - 38/40*37/39*36/38*35/37*34/36*33/35*32/34*31/33 = 0.64
2 dod (2nd) - 38/40*37/39*36/38*35/37*34/36*33/35*32/34*31/33*30/32 = 0.6

3 dod (1st) - 37/40*36/39*35/38*34/37*33/36*32/35*31/34*30/33 =0.5
3 dod (2nd) - 37/40*36/39*35/38*34/37*33/36*32/35*31/34*30/33*29/32 = 0.45

so, your chance to have at least one dod on the 5th turn are

36% if you go 1st and have 2 dods in the deck
40% if you go 2nd and have 2 dods in the deck
50% if you go 1st and have 3 dods in the deck
55% if you go 2nd and have 3 dods in the deck

it's far from guaranteed
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>>167839731
Or maybe Americans are just sleeping.
>>
>>167839798
is a mobile game, you can play even shitting
>>
>>167818074
Would? Yeah. But if it's suddenly removed from the game sometime in the future I would not stand for it.
>>
>>167839807
I did the same. I don't even care at this point
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>>167838339
>1.6% over 50%
What a "counter"
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Nerfs?
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>>167839768
>55.4% winrate in Master
>even or positive against everything that isn't Daria, Sword, or Tempo Forest

Roach was a mistake.
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>>167839904
survey packs :^)

>>167839925
blame ceridwen
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Need for concede, we can play it out if you'd like.

33864
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>>167839807
Don't let your memes be memes. Really should have stuck to only crafting core leader cards though so you got more value out of them.
>>
Reminder that roping Daria players is a public service.
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>>167839807
I have a complete discard dragon
>>
>>167839904
It's hardware tweaks for the sv rollout in gook land. Probably adding more servers, fixing some translation issues and shit.

>>167840290
Disco's only 6 golds though. 3 of which are used in all dragon and 3 that are used in disco and ptp decks
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>>167840175
>anotherplayerhasjoined.jpg
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>>167840175
Thanks, Rowen-sama!

>>167840336
We can still play a full match if you'd like, I'm up for it. I closed the room, though, make a new one if you want to play.
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>>167840385
17298

Some t2 if you want.
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>>167839798
Feena a shit.
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>>167825212
>those tabs
>that fucking graph
is this the 90s?
>>
>>167840452
I'm probably never going to use them but it's the virtue of missing out on them
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>>167840445
Best of 3?
>>
>>167840558
Sure
>>
>>167840509
just grind them quick
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>>167839668
>Tried to do my blood dailies in ranked
>For the first time ever run into this deck
>7 times
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>If you can but satisfy me, I'll make your every wish come true.

could you satisfy her, /svg/?
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>>167840793
Sexy is mine
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>>167840681
I can't grind 20000 points in 5 hours
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>>167838021
>yugioh
kys
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>>167840574
I accidentally pressed no on creating a new deck
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>>167840901
Last sleeves are like 12k points
>>
>>167840901
Sorry, my mistake, I meant 40000
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>>167818572
why piercing rune?

t.low rank shitter
>>
>>167840876
do you like her with green or blond (evolved) hair more?
>>
>>167840969

You're either trolling or know nothing about the game.
>>
>>167840962
>tfw to intelligence to count correctly
4000 I meant, fuck
>>
>>167840324
>Disco's only 6 golds though. 3 of which are used in all dragon and 3 that are used in disco and ptp decks
implying they don't run forte in otk dragon
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>>167841109

>Forte in OTK
>muck up your emissary draw

You sure about that, dude?
>>
>>167840962
>40 matches or so in 5 hours
Do it
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>>167841161
emissary draft for what, for... draconic fervor?
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I've been at this point 4 times in the past 3 hours.
Always one off.
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>>167840969
Because turn 4 piercing rune + levi the balanced mage (2 ping damage + 5 face damage and a 4/4 body for 4pp is pretty busted)
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>>167841310

If this is dragonnewt otk, then you use that to fish out either feena or fervor. You don't need dork since you can use Eyfa instead for similar effect.
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>>167841373
You'll make it soon anon.
I've been stuck at 100 points away from Masters for the past 3 hours but I won't give up.
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>>167840793
>T2
>play enchanted pact
>play rise of the dead after mini Pluto dies
>get the real 8pp pluto
>enemy Bahamuts me

That was neat.
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>>167841373
When you arrive in AA concede for A3 pls
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>>167841535
I heard you can't.
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what now
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>>167841502
>>167840793

Pact is just great overall.

>3PP for 4 damage threshold without needing shadow
>7PP for an extra follower
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>>167841373
>>167841478
I was stuck 100 points away from masters for close to 200 games. Sometimes it just happens.
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>>167841630
>tempted to buy 1 of each just for the card sleeves
>but my autism won't let me unless I buy 3 of each for a full playset of each animated
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>>167841373
Nope. Kill me.
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>>167818539
there's literally an option to prevent that.
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>>167840574
I'm donezo for now, good games, they were fun. Thanks for playing
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>>167840936
gg m8
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>>167841812
i know that feel. want to buy 3 of each so badly but also don't want to spend so much money right now
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>>167841373
>playing easy mode aggro sword
serves you right fag
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HAHAHAH HD-SHIFT IS FUN LELELEL
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>>167842067
You mad?
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>>167841825
You are running Demon Strike & DoD right?
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>>167842005
And the worst thing is if I decide to buy 3 of each, I would have to keep buying 3 of each everytime they release new prebuilts. Fucking autism man.
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>>167842131
Yes, but I draw fucking Albert instead.
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If you summon DateMasamune at 7pp can he still be kaleidoscoped back into your hand?
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>>167842168
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>>167842170
Then you actually had a 50% chance if he left the vanguard & pirate up
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>>167842252
Please, of course he didn't.
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>>167842051
As if playing csword is any better.
Literally the shittiest control deck available, you get to turn 9-10 without having more than 3-4 cards in hand. I'd love for sword to get a decent draw engine (even fucking dragon has better draw now) but cygames refuses to make sword good at anything.
The follower based class that gets bodied by Runecraft because they can drop more followers, draw better and burn your face at the same time. Sword is a fucking joke now.
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>>167842220
Should be, yeah.
Give me 10 minutes
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>>167842220
Yes. Enhance doesn't change the original cost of the card.
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>>167842267
Well some people are really fucking greedy, and it isn't necessarily a bad play.
If you knew that he runs burn damage you'd try to close the game out asap.
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>>167842230
That's OCD not assburgers man.
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>>167842308
is that your excuse for playing braindead deck?
Play other control
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>>167842308
The only csword control deck that works now is a super greedy deck because you have bad card draw so you want every card to be fat but then you brick. I'm tempted to run 3 mentor's teaching along with 3 maids just for more draw.
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>>167842220
Enhance don't actually change the base card, which is what card effects look at.
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>>167842426
The only good control in the game is Haven and Dshift.
>implying I want to play that
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>>167842308
>Literally the shittiest control deck available
It literally has the highest winratio.
Shadowfags in denial are the worst.
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>>167842220
Oh hey cat just answered the question for me
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>>167842220
>It just happened
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>>167842376
implying tuna doesnt have assburgers
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>>167842483
i play Csword in A3 and probably won like 10% of my games against control shadow
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>>167842575
Yeah, Shadow wins versus Sword very easily, and yet can't break 47% winratio. I pity them.
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>>167842483
>It literally has the highest winratio.
Huh?
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>>167842483
Against what exactly? AFK opponents?
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>>167817610
>Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
>Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):

which one you guys recommend to use?
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>>167842523
Talking about these bro
>>167841812
>>167842005
>>167842168
I dunno anything about your image.
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If you forgot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-z17xLpnx0

Cblood today
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>>167842818
>sun santa

hmmm
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>>167842815
i'm not going to rename my images to appease you autist
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>>167842698
Of all control decks I mean.
It is stable at 51% for weeks in master.
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>SunSatan
>Mental break
So it's relaxing? Wouldn't have figured really.
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>>167842958
Which control sword deck? The super greedy one with bahamut or the mid range one?
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>>167842958
Checked Shadowlog and you're right
Don't know why that is though, it feels very weak to me without any form of draw or sustain. Maybe it's feeding off the Roaches? Don't know
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>>167842892
elf/bishop mission
cblood today is a straight out lie though since he only plays sun santana with other control decks in between as a break
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>>167842981
Mental Break as in breaking their will to play.
That's why he says "break seikou/break successful" when the other guy concedes.
It's chuuni as fuck.
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>>167843032
>lie
he played Cblood when i tuned in
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>>167843138
So literally Mind Crush
I like it
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>>167843009
Iunno, people report these in the same category. I use the one with Bahamut myself and find success with it on masters as well.
>>167843027
It has good matchups accross the board aside from Daria (which you should be able to beat very often when going second), while going even with Dragon (one of the most popular classes) and destroying Roach.
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>can't use motomete because of wolf
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>be me
>run dirt in masters because no other deck feels comfy
>40% winrate on sunday
>holy shit this is awful
>edit deck
>slightly over 50% for a couple of days
>60% yesterday
>I'm okay with this.png
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>>167843241
Post dick.
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>>167843329
>3x Levi
>3x Rune
Gee, I wonder what's carrying your deck, how about adding 3x Disaster Witches and a couple of Demonic Strikes as well?
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>>167843329
how to make dis prety pictur
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>>167843329
>comfy
More like boring as fuck. Holy shit this is probably the most boring deck in the game.
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>Playing Take Two
>Humpty Dumpty uses Cyclone Blade and kills an Odin
>"A TRUE WARRIOR OF VALHALLA"
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>>167843464
shadowverse portal > create > twitter image
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After this expansion rune will be the craft with worst popularity of all time.
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>>167843398
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:^)
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Would a storm ramp dragon deck work?
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>watching satancat having to deal with that whore of a tia getting bounced multiple times
How horrifying.
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Bouncing Tia up and down and getting her off a bunch
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>>167843664
wtf are you me
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>>167843787
Why not seabrand instead of girugamesh
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Can you get 3 evo points again if you play second Olivia?
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>>167843859
Yeah.
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>>167843829
What is this, 2016?
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>>167843843
Only had storm at 7pp, at that point saha + gilgamesh does 1 more damage.
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>>167843329
>twin guardians
>1x calamitous
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need concede please: 62959
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>>167844060
Seabrand is a single card though. Saha combo requires 2 cards and since you don't run fervor you have a lesser chance of pulling it off.
Just remove sahaq and gilgamesh since they're the only 2 neutrals, sahaq will be a dead card unless you draw gilgamesh.
If you wanna run sahaq just run a normal luci baha deck.
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>>167844227
Thanks!
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Every time I catch a streak with Roach I feel like I don't deserve it, holy fuck the amount of people that just gives up at some point for no reason is insane.
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>>167844243
Hmm, maybe I replace saha+gilga with fervor and seabrand then.
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I like cat but everytime he plays leobrick deck i wanna hit his face
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>>167843447
While the additional Piercing Rune relative to the last list has no doubt done something for the deck's overall performance (mostly against Aggro decks), the match data I've collected has proven that the most influential change has been +2 Timeless Witch over 2 Veteran Alchemist. I'm less strapped for sigils in a deck with relatively few of them in the first place, she has better stats for trading with obnoxiously big followers, and she helps to derail Roach and Shift when things get critical. Timeless also completely locks Daria out of the game once they're out of evolutions. She shuts down most of the Apocalypse deck too.

I also kicked the one-of Apprentice Alchemist and worked in the third Kaleido Glow again, but I'm not liking that change as much aside from removing bricks from the Gobu pool.

>>167843474
Hey, I respect the opinion. Different strokes for different folks. I don't like playing any kind of Sword and absolutely hate what Forest has degenerated into just to stay relevant.
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>>167844357
In addition, if you guys want easy win at lower ranks, do play Roach, right now some dude left the game in a situation that I felt on the backfoot because he doesn't know how the deck actually works and can't count tokens. In fucking masters.
I imagine people at A and AA will do that even more often.
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Someone post a control shadow deck
Hard mode: no neps.
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>>167844651
easy wins at low rank is as simple as playing aggro

I think I won 95% of games playing aggro sword until I got to A0
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Is she also a goblin? She likes shiny things just like Gobu.
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>>167844954
No, gobus don't have horns.
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>>167845009
Are you a gobu expert?
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>when your most feared matchup concedes
Nghhh
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I love healing
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>>167845105
How exactly does Guardian Sun fear Roach? It's like the 1 hard counter.
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>>167845105
Your most-feared matchup should be dshift
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vial my animated zirnitra y/n
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>>167845324
yes
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>>167845324
no.

She is used in some decks only because is not 100% you don't need to vial right now.
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>>167845324
spell boost her
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16442
Need a concede please.
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>>167842818
>5 win streak with ramp dragon

Rank 1 confirmed.
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>>167845476
Thank you Rowen.
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>>167845596
But dragon is tier 1
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>>167844227
who's THIS cutie?
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>>167843787
Sahaquiel is pretty weak here since there's only one card in the deck you want her to use, unless you're desperate enough to suicide your Olivia as removal. You could replace the neutrals with some combination of Seabrand, Zirnitra (since you have Olivia anyway to help power them), and Fervor. You could keep a girugamesh or two I guess.
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Which would you cum on first?
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>>167846061
The card.
I'm a cardsexual.
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>turn 6 satan
Why is this allowed
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>>167845818
Pretty sure it's unused alt art for Soul Conversion.
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>>167837493
>>167846061
Where is the goddamn proper pic of Isabelle. I need those boobs right now.
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delet this
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Private match quest help please
86389
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>>167846641
Said there was an issue with the opponent's connection, redo the lobby.
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>>167846527
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>>167846516
what's her name in rage of bahamut?
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>>167846061
>tfw going to buy 3 copies of the mag for 3 feenas
Too bad the poster is folded. Creases in posters are shit.
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Damn this bloodcraft mission took forever
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Why is making a good blood deck so hard
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>>167846976
blood don't deserve good cards.
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>>167846976
>>167846960

remove vampy
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>>167846943
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=49164341
ソウルウィッチ [Soul Witch]
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>>167846813
She needs at least 3 nakadashis with a full ahegao.
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>>167847356
thank you fren
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>>167847591
kono hentai baka
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So wait
How can Control Blood ever contest non-aggro decks
Haven is not going to hit your face before Satan or Serapth comes
Forest just waits till OTK
how the fuck does this shit deck even work
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what deck would you make?

don't say aggro sword because thats the only deck i have right now
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>>167847924
By preying on non-meta decks such as my own
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>>167847959
Vials these jeanne and make a seraph
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why this bodyguard looks like she is ready to have sex in any moment?
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>>167848083
fairies are like that
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>>167848083
It's her duty to breed new soldiers for the queen
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Sword is so fucking OP in T2. Every single one of my 5 win is with Sword.
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>>167848083
she will defend her princess no matter what it takes

(´・ω・`)
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>>167847356

He should have picked a better cartographer.

Too bad the card sucks
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>>167848249
*too bad is a blood card
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>>167848210
you ignorant slut, sword is just consistent but not OP.

I have 1 win each with sword haven dragon shadow
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>>167848210
Shadow and dragon are better
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>HURRRR ITS ME AGGRO RUNE
>WATCH ME TOPDECK PERFECT LETHAL
Fucking die, all of you.
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>>167848083
She defends Tia by taking the dicks that were meant to put inside her princess.
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>>167848471
To be fair, there are usually many options to top dick which result in lethal when playing aggro rune.
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>>167846813
>193KB
Anon. It hurts.
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>>167848210
>noskill loserd can only win with sword
>>
anyone have a decklist that can make this card work? or one that uses earth sigils in general
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I just want Tempo Forest to fucking work
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>>167848896
You can play regular Dirt with her (suboptimal Dirt build) or a Daria/Dirt build with her (suboptimal Daria build).
She is a meme card.
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>>167846813
>lose to this slut and her daria slut buddy
>want to masturbate to her being gang banged in doujins as revenge
>not a single doujin to be found

Fucking hell.
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>>167848970
I want my wife to be good again
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>>167848970
It's fun to play at least
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>>167848896
If you want a Dirt build, I have one for you, but it doesn't use Pascale. She is a meme card as of right now.
If you want to fit her in, you should probably try to find space for Remi and Rami.
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>>167848024
then what
>>
Connection issues all day all night
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>>167849441
only when you play against corean
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Before creation there was-
AAAHHRGGG
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Just got memed on by discard Dragon
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>>167849839
>dubcucking in /svg/
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>>167850080
I do it ironically
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Someone can concede for me? 13029

>>167849430
Make a seraph deck anonny
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>>167849839
>before creation there was destruction
That doesn't make sense.
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>>167850535
To build a new house you have to blow the old one out.
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>>167850446
thanks
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>>167850696
Where did you get the old one then?
>>
LETS TALK ABOUT 1DROPS

how useful are 1drops? how many 1drops do you use? someone told me today that in HS there is a considerably higher winrate for players who play a 1drop on the first turn

at the moment I'm only using 3x quick blader in my aggro/mid sword deck because I found that most of the times I lost it was due to running out of cards in my hand
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>went 1st every single time today
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>>167839284
>>167839304
>>167839093
where are all these drawings from?
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>>167850997
almost everything from pixiv
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>>167850938
I went first 14 times in a row. I tried switching to T2, unranked, it didn't matter, I still went first for all games.
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>>167850856
There's dozens of creation myths that start with the world being born from a primordial chaos or someone taking charge of the chaos and creating things from it.
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>>167850938
>>167851143
play aggro and win
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>>167850884
If you are Control 1 drops are necessary.
Aggro mosto f time use 5-8 1drops.
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>>167850938
unnecessary*

>>167850938
>>167851143
play aggro or dragon in t2
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>>167850938
>Switch to aggro
>Go second
>Switch back to control
>Go first
Nice forced 50/50
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12225366
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Need a concede or give a "let's do this" in game if you want a win for the 20 private win quest : 79745
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>>167851485
but why
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>wolf for 0 mana homecoming to clear board full of wards and make fuckhuge roaches.

I don't like this meme
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>>167851670
unnecessary.

Control decks are greed and need space to drop tons of 9+ drops
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>>167851681

can you feel the interactivity flowing through you?
>>
Remember when people cried about aggro
I wish aggro was back
I don't want Dshift
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>>167851681
>Falling for the control Blood meme
Control Blood is hands down the worst control. It has the worst wards, and it no longer even has the best heals. Saha into Luci is infinitely better than any play control Blood can do, and Themis isn't a meme card that can't clear Baha, Satan's Servant, and 9/11 in control mirrors.

Control Blood just fucking sucks, it does nothing well other than punishing all in aggro retards.
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>>167851681
>getting punished for playing a control deck
This game is so shit
>>
>changing the deck a little slightly improved the matchup against Rune

It's nice to see small changes actually help.
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>>167851831
faggot
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>>167852024
Devs are die hard combo cucks that refuse to allow proper counters for combos. To date, we haven't gotten a single anti combo card. No deck/hand discard, no draw hate, no cost manipulation, no counter spells, nothing. Every time a degenerate combo decks over performs they go "lol just play aggro".
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>>167852024
>control decks need to win all matchups

this really make my vampy bloodkin
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>>167850884
1 drops are weak on this game and very strong on Hearthstone, especially because that game is dominated by aggro. You only need 1 drops if you are Forest, aggro or if you want a more aggressive midrange list. They are bad in control and not mandatory in midrange.
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Help with a private match please !

15806
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thanks for the win buddy, its ok counting is pretty hard
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>>167852009
>Control Blood is hands down the worst control
Try playing Control Forest then come back and try to say this again with a straight face.
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>>167851681

>turn 10
>not aggressively killing them

The last time I deal with a blood, he capped me with mary+claw+wolf for 11 damage.
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>>167852558
>mary
Control Blood dropped that.
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Trust no one, not even yourself or yourself looking the opposite direction
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>>167852537
t. he evolved and killed my albert and I killed him with demonic strike
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>>167852270
Control decks at least deserve a chance when going up against something. The last I checked control blood had something like a 16% win rate vs dshift. The fact that there will never be a control meta means ungas and combo decks will reign supreme until this game dies.
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>>167852558
>>167852635
Mary is unplayable in control Blood, because there's simply no fucking space for a 4/5 that does nothing til turn 9 and 10. Control Blood needs draw, wards, and heal. The deck doesn't have a single reliable way to do any of those. The wards are 2 1/1s and a fucking 3/2. The heals are all "be dead to heal lol", and the draw is "kill yourself to draw". Fucking control decks need draw to get out of a shit situation, to dig for better answers. What's the fucking point of making your own draw kill you? Control Blood is like a combofags wet dream of what all control decks should be. The easiest fucking prey imaginable to them.
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Do Nep decks need draw cards to draw into Nep? Or is having 3 Neps enough to draw her consistently?
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>>167851648
>20 private win quest
Is it a permanent chievo?
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>>167852879
>Does x need draw
Yes.

If x is control, it needs more draw, if x is combo, it needs even more than that.
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>>167852876
Blood don't need good cards.

When blood receive Yurius everyone was bitching about overstatted and nerfs.
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>>167852876
>What's the fucking point of making your own draw kill you?
The class was created with the Vengeance mechanic in mind, that's why.
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>>167853084
Vengeance is a shit mechanic when one roach can easily hit 8/1 on turn 8.
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>>167852265
Basically this.

HS finally got a hand manipulation card, maybe they'll try to copy it.
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>>167852879
Mine has 2 Neps and no draw, and I win most of my matches in A2.
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>>167853184
I never said it's good, I am only explaining why "your own draw kills you"
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>>167853184
The game was a a lot slower in vanilla and vengeance used to matter. The craft was designed in a much different climate.

>>167853232
What card is that? I figured blizz would stay away from that sort of thing.
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>>167853084
>Make mechanic with a steep cost for a pay off
>Forget to actually put the pay off in
>Ignore it for the rest of the game's life
>Meanwhile other classes get rewarded for protecting their life total, or increasing their hand advantage
Blood is the only class in the game with a negative class mechanic.

>>167853061
Aggro Blood wouldn't be a fucking thing if they stopped making degenerate combo decks that required the fastest possible aggro to beat, or if they actually made a fucking viable Blood deck that didn't require ignoring the class' mechanic and 90% of the card pool. Blood is a badly designed class in every way imaginable. Like, the entire fucking class needs a fucking rework. Otherwise they just have to either ignore it forever or power creep it into relevance.
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How do you even fix vengeance
You're basically dead if it's active

Maybe make it, that if you drop below 10 it stays active forever even if you heal above it again?
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>>167853553
After you take 10 damage it activates
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>>167853553
Simply make vengeance stay turned on once you reached it.

But then it could be way too strong.
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>>167853481
They could make things active when vengeance is not on or something like that.

but i doubt these game devs want to be loyal to the initial project blood will never have good cards because of this.
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>>167853553
>How do you even fix vengeance
Make it start at 12, or change followers with vengeance fanfare to permanent effect, so that when you drop low vengeance will automatically active.
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>>167853401
"Dirty rat", it's a minion that summons a random minion from your enemy's hand.
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>>167853703
Even the best cards with vengeance are bad.
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Concede or I beat this elf.
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>>167853881
Thanks dragon man.
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>>167853703
>It could be way too strong
No ti fucking won't, vengeance cards aren't even that fucking good. Rev is an inferior Themis late game, even at 4 mana. Devil is worthless without an evo, Drain would be on par with Piercing Rune. That's it, those are all the fucking viable vengeance cards.

This "it could be too good" mentality is the exact reason why we've had this trash mechanic in the first place. The over balanced it, they thought it would be much better than it actually is, and never looked at it again. It's the only mechanic they actually put that much thought into making sure it wouldn't be too good. Meanwhile, Spellboost is a fucking thing that keeps getting more and more support each expansion, and not just un intended support like a spell, no, but actual broken cards with the spellboost tag.

They haven't released a single viable vengeance card since fucking vanilla, not fucking one. They want you to pay half your life and stay in kill range to use 3 fucking mediocre cards that got power creeped ages ago.
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>Draft Bahamut
>Free 5 wins

Fuck that card so much.
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>Dragon dailies when you don't have a single decent Dragon deck and only 2 Fortes.
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>>167854058
If there's one thing you need to remember in take 2, that is always play around Bahamut.
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>>167853553
Printing anti-combo tools would help. As it is right now, control blood basically just prays it draws into queen vampire and then it doesn't really have a good win condition. They have to stay alive way too long. Better early game tools in general would be nice. The damage in this game has gotten way too high since it came out.

Alternatively, you could probably help vengeance by printing combo cards for blood that aren't bloody mary tier bad but I don't think anyone wants that.

>>167853789
Neat, it's about time. It's a sickeningly Blizzard card to print but it's better than nothing. Imagine SV printing a card that lets you choose an opponent's card and force them to discard. How much complaining would there be in this general that they have to watch their opponent's hand
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New to shadow here. Anyone want to offer any tips or what I should change toward my list. Is the 6 mana taunt (ghostly rider) worth running even if it messes up the consistency of the nep?
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>>167854113
Can't play around it when we're both topdecking.
Whatever, 4-1 for the nth time isn't the worst it could be. But fuck man, I had the last game in the bag until then.
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>>167854089
>not just putting some random shit in with prince of satan for every daily deck
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>>167854208

-3 widow
+1 Lurching
+2 Unicorn Dancer
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Discard Dragon needs card that discards card from his opponent's hand. Just a couple of cards like "Fanfare: both players discard a random card". 'We need anti combo decks that aren't mindless face trash.
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>>167853553
Vengeance is fine
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>>167854208
You run 4 different PP costs tops, you want that khawy+mord pop. Pick one of 2378, 2478 or 2678 and stick with it.
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Roach have a cap of 5 atk
Spellboost have a cap of 2pp minimum
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Hmmm
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FIRST DSHIFT
NOW PTP FOREST
ARE YOU PEOPLE FUCKING BEGGING ME TO PLAY DARIA
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>>167854678
not vampy

0/10
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>>167854678
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>>167854120
>Imagine SV printing a card that lets you choose an opponent's card and force them to discard.

No, a thousand times no.

Firstly it goes against shadowverse being a non-priority based game. Have no noticed how no card in the game lets you do anything on your opponent's turn? Yes it simplifies (or "dumbs down" if you want to be cynical) the game but Cygames has commuted to that game design and they're not going to overhaul the game for one card.

Secondly, the card you want printed is essentially MtG's thoughtsteal and I could write a book of reasons why it works there but wouldn't work for SV.
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>>167854313
Thanks for the tips man, deck feels real smooth now especially vs roach
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>>167854961
Thoughtsieze*, time for bed.
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>always play my first 3-4 turns as roach very fast
>after that always take forever for my turns to make them think I am calculating lethal all the time
>they play scared as fuck and sometimes just concede eventually

Who /mindgamer/ here?
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>>167855276
I wish i had balls to play roach. is the first hard deck in my life
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>>167854089
You can put RoB Forte in the deck, It's literally almost the same shit
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>>167855374
Its pretty easy man, after like 20 games u dont even have to calculate because you know how much dmg that sequence does.
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>>167855424
I do, it's still garbage, especially because there are fucktards who legit play Daria on unranked.
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>>167854961
But that card doesn't involve playing outside of your turn. If you able to play the card, you're also able to make the one extra choice immediately afterward to pick which card gets discarded. It's not like MTGO where the opponent has to confirm after every single action because they could have an instant to play.
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>>167854961
>Firstly it goes against shadowverse being a non-priority based game
It doesn't, actually. And while I agree they shouldn't print word-for-word Thoughtseize (instead of say Dirty Rat or Loatheb) it would still be better than having zero ways to interact with certain combos.
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>>167854985

No problem dude. Go spread the good word of Nephthys-sama
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>roach
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MATCHMAKING IS FUCKING RIGGED
WHY DO MY ENEMY DIRTS GET DREAM DRAWS
WHILE WHEN I PLAY DIRT IT IS FULL OF SHIT
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>>167855276
As seraph haven I just play recklessly vs roach anyways because the only way I win is when you brick riduculously. So get fucked!
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>>167854961
SV will never have instants because it would be a nightmare to implement in a card game aimed at mobile. No one wants to wait around after every play so the game can check if their opponent wants to play one. There's a good reason that MTG still doesn't have a good online client otherwise we could all go play that.
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>>167855891
calm down bro don't play while tilted
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>when I play roach deck, the general thought process is "fuck math, I'll just chip, then just do the most burst damage when I feel like it"
>end up hitting exact lethal everytime

I'm either really lucky, or I've subconsciously been able to roach math and I can feel when I have lethal without thinking about it.
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>>167855974
I WANT MY DAILIES DONE SO I CAN UNINSTALL THIS FUCKING SHIT GAME AND KILL MYSELF
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>>167855837
I never played YGO, is this a good card? Is it actually used or is it more of a tournament card to tech against cerain decks/players?
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>>167855909
Play more Temple Defenders
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>>167855837
Would allowing a players to ban one card from the opponents craft before the mulligan phase be a good idea?
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>>167856060
Is a 100% tech card.

And is usable as fuck in some metas.
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>>167856083
lol xd
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>>167856060

I've actually used it in my main deck when I was piloting mist valley ninja, because MST is a major cockblock but if I can block that out I'm set to go.
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>>167855974
I need sauce, for research purposes.
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>>167856083
That's actually a good idea, for some reason my list has 2 baguettegirls and no defenders
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>>167856089
I'd much rather have a format where you can have a side board and you play bo3.
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>>167856287
I play 3 in my current list and I'm 6-4 against Roach
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Can I just liquify Arch Summoner Erasmus at this point? Even if Rune midrange becomes a thing and he does become good some day, I feel like he's just always going to be worse than Secrets of Erasmus.
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>>167856456
Except you can have both in your deck
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Can you stack Titania's Sanctuary?
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>>167855597
How would you cost that? Keep in mind you are not only thoughtsiezing their best card but you also gain knowledge of their hand. There are a million better ways Cygames could stem off aggro that isn't printing a discard effect like that.
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>>167856456
>Can I just liquify Arch Summoner Erasmus at this point?
hes been free vials since forever, retard.
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>abandoned HS because of shaman
>losing interest on SV because of rune

Is SV going down the same road?
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>>167856254
Search for hewls in pixiv
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>>167856089
>roach
>albert
>daria
>dragon oracle (??)
>khawy/deathsbreath
>yurius
>themis

nice game retasrd
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Just lost as Seraph to someone playing Odin in a fucking Nep deck.
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>>167856719
Yep.
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>>167856719
Maybe card games are not for you.

You need to accept this or play RPG,RTS and FPS.
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>>167856060
Side deck card only useful in certain metas.
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>>167856719
Nope.
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>>167856719

Just play roaches my man

The sword and blood matches were for dailies
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>>167856858
This pretty much, there will always be a meta and it will be always changing around, the counter that counters the counters and so on and on.

The problem is when a deck is "too" good, like Daria and the whole synergy thing with her spellboosting, but even if Cygames does nerf it in the distant future, don't expect too much of it.
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>>167856765

Did they actually summon Nephthys or was it control shadow?
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>>167856089
Just gives siding and BO3 matches.
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wew fucking lad
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>>167857017
post dick
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How come all of a sudden so many people are running Sahaquiel X Lucifer decks, across multiple crafts? What tier is this, how come it suddenly got popular out of nowhere? I've been running into it as much as Daria today and actually losing to it more for some reason.
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>>167857104
it doesnt count if you play an OP deck
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>>167857174

That's the absurd thing actually, I'm running a less than optimal deck because I'm missing an AE and I'm running a wolfbolt tech.
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>>167857201
the Dragon is Tier 1.
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>>167857201
It won a recent tournament, so now everyone thinks they can run it and win.
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>>167857201
last famitsu tourney was last weekend I think?, I have been seeing almost zero seraph decks but a shitton of sun satans because of it
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>>167857060
They actually summoned Nepthys and pulled Mordecai off of it. I dropped Seraph on my turn because I still had a ward up and he was far from lethal, then he Odin'd me.
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>>167856728
>Searched for hewls in pixiv.
>Found nothing.
>Still needs source.
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>>167857201
HEAR
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>>167856561
I think you could make it more costly than Thoughtseize because the combo pieces you're targeting are also more costly. It could easily cost 3 PP at the bare minimum, so that you can cast it right after they play Goblin Mage. It also doesn't have to be thoughtseize, it could just be the standard "opponent discards 2 cards of their choice." It's still pretty punishing against roach because they use all of their cards to boost the roach. And the same thing with Dshift, since their hand will be mostly Dshifts and flame destroyers by the end.
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Is there even a way for Sword to beat Seraph?
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>tfw farming d shift nerds on ladder
Easiest points of my life right here
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>>167857410
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58260828
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>>167857443
The one that has 3 Odins
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>>167857443
3 albertos

stall until turn 9
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>>167857443
Doing a lot of pressure.

desu sword is one of the decks that give more problem for me as a seraph
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>>167857443
Shouldn't be that one of your more winnable match ups?
Post list
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>>167857595
>Doing a lot of pressure.
2 Cuckgel and your pressure is fucking gone
I hate that faggot card so much.
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>>167857397
People are running a least one odin in most midrange decks (nep and sword lol) nowadays you dumb i-win-card-cuck.
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>>167857201
ROWEN IS BACK
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>>167857658
sun satan is incredible annoying to deal with as sword, every little cunt they drop on the board as ward, and when you finally can get some board control, they themis you out of it.

fucking bullshit how ambush followers and magic protected wards are still affected by AoE
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>>167857658
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/master-rank-aggro-swordcraft-30-wins-out-55-matches-dai
I don't even play Sword, just netdeck this shit for dailies.
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>>167857679
Playing Odin in Nepthys is terrible. Not only it is a card that doesn't have last words, but its cost conflicts with Mordecai's of all things.
Just play Control Shadow if you want to use Odin in Shadow. It's a better deck than Nep anyways.
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>>167857676
>2 Cuckgel

Are you low rank? is really rare to anyone run this card nowdays
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>>167856728
Nothing found.
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Can you help me make a good Fairy deck?
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>>167857858
I'm at A0, pretty low. Every fucking hag has 3 cuckgel.
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>>167857898
here>>167857497
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>>167857996
On AA3 they all do too, that guy is delusional.
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>>167857826
>playing card that lets you win against your worst matchup is terrible cause it doesn't have last words
Right.
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>>167857935
No.
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>>167857935
I've tried. There isn't one. Play roach or don't play forest.
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>1st
>1st
>1st
>1st
>Switch to aggro
>2nd
>2nd
>2nd
>2nd
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>>167857497
>>167858052
Thanks fellow researcher.
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>>167858113

Are you retarded?
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>>167857497

Thank you kind sir.
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>>167858070
>AA3
Is the same of a low-master
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>>167858113
How retarded are you?
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Do people still buy darkness evolved packs or do they just dump them on RoB
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>>167858113
Running Odin means you risk burning him with Neptits. If you don't want to burn him, you will need to hold Neptiits until you draw Odin, which hinders your main game plan.
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>>167858143
>lose
>lose
>lose
>switch decks
>lose
>lose
>lose
>switch again
>lose
>lose
>play meme decks in unranked
>lose
>lose
>cry myself to sleep
I've lost 2k points in two days.
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>>167858289
I do because I still don't have some of the good cards from it, and I want all cards in the game anyway.
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>>167858143
Going first is better in control, dude you must not know much about shadowverse
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>>167858289
I dump them on RoB since the legos are more valuable there.
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>>167858350
>having one evolve less is better
Are you pretending to be retarded
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Is seraph haven good for ladder? I just got my first seraph today :^)
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>>167858350
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>>167858464
Everyone is playing greed control wit 3 odins.

But still win against daria and aggro decks.
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>>167858464
Won 6 matches in AA2 today with her.
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>>167858350
>Go first
>Most control decks don't play 1 drops
>Get one less card and one less evolve
You must be an expert in card games.
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>>167858464
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>>167858582
>control is the strongest it's ever been
>only loses to combo
>/svg/ still complains
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>play against wall daria
>she's losing badly
>establish board
>suddenly bahamut
It's like she expected her wall to fail miserably
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>>167858130
>>167858114
But I want to play with qt faeries.
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>>167858705
>only loses to combo
And a Daria who nut draws.
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>>167858705
There always be a retard bitching about the last """"""""unfair""""""""" game.

Mature adults just play and try to counter the ladder.
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>>167857201
Cause sahaq+luci is a free heal and luci is pretty fat so he can remove alot of shit. Not to mention you can evolve sahaq to remove another follower. It's a stupidly good combo in any control deck and since every control will be running bahamut, you have another fat follower to sahaq incase you don't get lucifer.
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>>167858908
>wall daria
???
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>>167858959
But Daria bricks 140% of the time anon
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>>167858959

Everything loses to a Daria that nut draws. Bringing that up doesn't make a point.
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>haven shitter drops satan on me turn 10
>concedes 7 turns later
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>>167859080
Saying control decks beat everything but combo decks is a lie though. I was just pointing that out. Also if your control deck doesn't have healing you also lose to Daria due to her burn potential.
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Just had a Daria retard waste 2 Petrifications (1 in an unevolved Cudgel and 1 on an Altar that was on countdown 3) when I was obviously playing Seraph.
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>>167859221
MOOOM
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thinking of making daria deck

should i?
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>>167859204
>ptp
What
>>
>Carrot in aggro Shadow
But why?
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>>167859452
Kill yourself before making it.
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>>167859452
Sure if you like winning and playing Daria mirrors.
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>>167859530
Infinite value bru
>>
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How do we make Flute stronger?
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>>167859452
just do it

its not as much fun as it seems , but sometimes its just hilarious
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>>167859458
ptp dirt is pretty decent famalam
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>>167859530
3PP 2/2 is fairly good and you'll have a second 2/2 that never goes away.
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>>167859452

Unless you enjoy not making any REAL decisions I can't recommend for you.
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>>167859585
You get 1500 when you vial it
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>>167859605
You also running the snowman?
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>>167859530
>helps you not run out of steam
>infinite shadows
>healthy veggies
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>>167859680
what is life but a series of fake decisons?
>>
>>167859713
You can play 1 PtP in regular Dirt and it will do well.
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>>167859713
no but i probably should
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>>167859585
>turns your salamander's and oracles
it'll never be strong
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>>167857996
It's not uncommon for high rank haven to cut a cudgel but it's very rarely cut entirely. It happens but the most common variant is 2 cudgel.
>>
New thread when?
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>>167859804
>>
>AI has so many emotes
>Only 5 in real matches
What a shame
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>Dragon ramps up and plays back to back big threats before running out of cards
A shame I had two Bakis in hand anyway
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>>167859998
omg xD radical freedom xD
>>
make a new thread you fucking niggers, im not doing it
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>>167860174
no
>>
>/svg/ will die in your life time

let it go friends

we'll pass in peace
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>>167860317
the 2chan thread still good
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>>167860174
nah
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>pass turn 1
>draw quickblader on turn 2
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>>167860375
>when quickblader is too slow
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>>167860375
TOO SLOW
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82164

concede pls
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>>167860375
It's ok, he'll give you exact lethal on 10.
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>>167859998
xd nerd
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>>167860891
>>167860891
>>167860891
>>167860891
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>>167860648
thanks rowen
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>>167858705
>control is the strongest
not with 0 homecoming and 3 oglers on t5 breh
The only reason control is being played a lot is Daria and roach
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