/xcg/ - XCOM General

Firebrand :3

Pistols are useful

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Wakaliwood voice mod when

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEoGrbKAyKE

Can anyone else not upgrade the weapons made by E3245? There's no upgraded versions of any of his stuff but it says there should be on his mod pages.

>>167783628
Definitely.

Also whats the best pistol only class mod

>>167783861
LALALALALA

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>>167783628
Correct.
Know what isn't useful? Swords.

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RULES OF NATURE

>stun snek with based arc thrower
>walk up and blast it next turn
>it doesn't scream or anything
>just dies silently and slumps over


She felt nothing.

>>167785626
>she

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>That feeling when you are 18 Hours into a Long War 2 campaign
>Only *just now* realize that missions always "trigger" at a specific time, rather than being "randomly" discovered

I don't know why I thought the missions expired at random times. I thought squad size/infiltration management was a risk-reward mechanic, rather than one that you calculate for.

>>167787063
You can't hide your mistakes from me, subhuman.

>>167786660
Just because it was a he when it was human doesn't mean it's not a she now, anon. That's what all that snekslut hypno-induction therapy was for.

>>167787063
>deleting your post because you made one capitalization error

>Data tap
>Rebels activate 2 pods
>Smoke up everyone and flash bang as many as I can.
>One in half cover gets one shot.
>One gets merc'd in full cover.
>Third and last also gets plastered out of full cover.

Muton Elites feel a little unfair against almost-rookies.

>>167784492
*BEEP BEEP*
Best class mod coming through
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=618814983

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>it's another episode of "the last attack your squad needs to make to clear the pod is a graze and now you're fucked"

J A K E
A
K
E

>>167790321
>blame Jake for Lump's sins
That's not the way, anon.

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>>167782982
I have found the Ace Combat soundtrack goes breddy gud with the removal of ayylmao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdpZdUyXXEY

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Post 'em

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>>167791476
all ive got atm

>>167791654
What's happening? To make this animation happen.

>>167791995
jumping down from a ledge

>>167791995
looks like reaction fire when jumping through a skylight

from certain camera angles soldiers look like angels

>>167790321
>Drone appears
>Try to kill it.
>1 armor 2 damage
>1 armor 1 graze
>1 armor 4 damage

Every time.

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>>167793887
the only solution

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>>167791476

A shinobi about to remove snek

>>167793887
It's always the last hit that crits for the full HP amount. Sectoid with one health? Doesn't matter if you fire an smg, it's gonna crit for 12.

>>167794656
that looks so fucking stupid

the magazine is the size of her head

>>167794881
B-BUT THE TACTICOOL THO

>>167794881
to be fair, the guns XCOM uses are enormous. I want to put in some real t1 weapons like the bagel did but idk where to edit values to match long war's.

>>167794881
big bulit for big ayys

>>167795049
just use xskin it will makes things a bit easier

>>167795173
you're gonna have to elaborate senpai

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>>167794656
>>167794881

Can't help you on the armor; I think it looks nice. Same shinobi taking out a Faceless

>>167795371
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=707548632&searchtext=xskin

it lets you simply pick what skin your weapon uses in the attachment menu

>>167795635
>Thin men are now Vipers
>"The aliens don't need an infiltration unit anymore"
>Faceless

>>167795635
Almost looks like a stand.

>>167795858

Like a what?

>>167796620
Those super beings from jojo, it has that semi-weird pose going on.

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This was a good one. Two-man, two-day infiltration jailbreak, ghosted my way in, alarm goes off when I busted the doors, left the building and conducted a frantic retreat under fire from a 3-man 1-MEC pod to the evac zone. Got everybody out without firing a shot.

>>167796909
Is there an ability to return to infiltration?
Is there an ability to give other units infiltration?

Would be cool if you could sneak in, pop your stealth to open the door and call in evac, then return your operators the stealth and give the VIP infiltrate as well.

>>167797125
There's at least 2
Not that I know of.

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>>167785363
>Implying shinobis one-shotting fucking everything isn't useful

>>167785363
What class gets the pistol skills in Long War?

If I call down an evac zone on an Alien Relay mission, will it stay there forever? I'm set up in a good position near just a few turns in.

>>167797212
Maybe if you got a good hacking opportunity, some of those will return the squad to concealment, but that leaves it RNG dependent.

>>167797308
None of them get them in their regular learnset, but you can get the pistol skills in the AWC.

But since shit is random I'd say pistols are not useful

>>167795858
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOHpXiDFlbA

>>167797754
I remember a thread on another site once debating what the best path for Bradford was, and the winner was pistol-spec marksman.

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>>167797125
You can do that with a shinobi

I run ops like that with just one unit

>>167798265
David's character is named David, fuck it why not Lori's?

>>167792351

Avenging angels

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time to rest

>>167797754
If LW2 makes pistols not useful, then the entire mod isn't useful itself.

Do soldiers level too fast in long war 2?

>>167797754
>>167801261

Pistols are still useful in LW2. You can train any solider to learn every Pistol perk, it just takes time, and the order is random.

>defend a datatap mission with immediate launch
>limit is 8, send in the A squad
>A team ends up on one side of the map
>Technical adviser with 5 rookies is with the datatap on the other side of the map
>14 people in total to control
>kill everything and prevent destruction

Honestly that was pretty fucking wicked, I liked that setup.

I'm not sure why Bradford begged me to evac though when two of the rookies bit the dust, as no one else was in any remote danger, and there were only two enemies left on the map with one being disabled and the other guaranteed dead

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Even in the ADVENT future,
>the UK
>white

>>167801491
Can reinforcements have loot?

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Wow dude, that's an epic meme image, I can't believe your wit!

>>167803721
. . .I don't get it
are you losing your shit because she's black but has a last name of White?
My Uncle's last name is green, but he doesn't have green skin

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>>167791476
I haven't even beaten a tower mission yet, I just started a new campaign. Got this though.

>>167804320
sounds like you may have an ayy as an uncle

>>167804320
thin mint detected

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>>167804320
Da's bekause your git unkle ain't orky enuff

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>>167791476
How does the ADVENT Soldier who walks by, his view angle clearly going over the XCOM operative, not actually see the XCOM operative?

>>167804869
Too busy watching snek porn on the inside of his helmet.

>>167805001
>too busy watching snek porn
it's either this or "i'm too lazy/my payrate says this/i don't even want to fight"
that explains why they have the detection radius

>>167805390
>pay rate

they're fucking clones

>>167805390
Also explains why all the pods on the map don't rush to the sound of explosions

>Building across the street explodes
>Fuck that, I'm not getting paid enough to fight them

>>167805505
Clones need money too. They need those advent burgers.

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You're walking down the street to the store when a Viper comes and slaps your ass while saying "Sssexy boy."

What do you do? Remember that she has a plasma rifle and acid.

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>>167805714
allahu akbar

>>167805714
WELL GEE HEY THERE MISS DO YOU WANT TO SEE MY GUNS?
*wrist flamethrower to the face*

>>167805714
If I'm a civilian, the scary snake lady can do what she wants to me but I'm off to join the resistance the next day.

If I am already XCOM/Resistance, see the above two anons response.

>>167805714
>You will never have a snek molest you in public while people either watch or refuse to help

>>167806248
not even xcom would help you

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>>167791476

>>167795835

Faceless aren't infiltrators, they are living mines and traps.

>>167806248
That's kinda hot.

>>167806674
>so good he has ghost operatives
wow

REMOVE POD SYSTEM REMOVE POD SYSTEM

>>167806801
>dark event called faceless infiltrators

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I want a hyde port to remove ayy in a wife-beater while shouting gibberish.

>>167807127

Technically the event is called alien infiltrator in vanilla.

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>>167807193
I don't know your Hyde, but I sure know this Hyde.

>>167807193
I too want a Sam Hyde

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>>167807502
How about a MEC skin?

>>167807634
I think I'm going to start giving eyepatches to soldiers that survive bleeding out now.

>>167807634
>Mike Pence
he better be a stun-specced assault

>>167807502
>no trigger discipline
Like pottery. I remember this failure of a person.

>>167807634
>Pray Away
>not Telsa

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=859601422

>>167807876
you just made the wrong assumption in thinking Sam needs or cares about trigger discipline when he's mostly going to be emptying that gun

>>167807935
This is great news, now if somehow they can find the viper skin bug caused by the DLC.

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>>167807993
Needs to empty that weapon into his head and stop giving the internet cancer, tbhfamlam

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>>167791476

You know what doesn't fail when anyone who can walk in a straight line is off assaulting the HQ and a mission that absolutely must be done appears?

Taking three technicals including a squaddie, a squaddie grenadier, squaddie gunner, and a competent sniper and specialist. Glad to see the age old tactic of blow up the entire fucking map still holds up to this day

>>167808484
thank you for the weebm

>>167805714
blush and look away, blinking coquettishly

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wew beagle

>>167809657
>flamethrowers disable shooting
Wait what, seriously? How the fuck was I supposed to know that? Thanks Beagle, might actually use those stupidly short ranged farts now

>>167809960
>Using LW2 Technical class instead of the LW Shocktrooper class mod someone made

>>167809657
I disagree with his opinion, but I cannot fault his reasoning.

>>167809657
I'm surprised how well he managed to explain his points.

>If you up the rng for the player you have to up it for aliens

>stuff isn't always explained the best to the point it's a "what the fuck man"

>it's hard to tell whether missions were lost before you started even

and one of the more important ones

>killing aliens is actually fun and the stealth while novel at first isn't what is fun about xcom

>>167809657
And that's how beagle was found dead in his home.

You know what I miss about OG XCOM?

That Imperial Guard-ing the fuck out of early missions was a viable tactic.

>land
>smoke the ramp
>FOR THE EMPRA- I MEAN EARTH
>lose four guys to ayys out of sight
>fifth through fifteenth run out and fire like mad in the general direction of the shots

I miss burning down farms and leveling cities because room clearing is a bitch against anything other than sectoids or floaters, in which case its a nice dose of TACTICAL

>>167810426
>>killing aliens is actually fun and the stealth while novel at first isn't what is fun about xcom

this, it's really entertaining in the base game to solo a facility sabotage mission with an experienced assault once in a while but it doesnt make for good core gameplay and at the same time thats an assault thats spec'd out specifically to do that type of mission and is sub-par for normal ones

>>167810426
>killing aliens is actually fun and the stealth while novel at first isn't what is fun about xcom
This is what I hate the most about LW2. I want to kill aliens, I hate the feeling that I have to stealth an early mission to get my first engi or to stop a dark event that will force me to restart the entire campaign. The funnest I have had was taking a full ten man squad on a supply raid mission and getting into an intense fire fight.

>>167810634
I don't get the joke

>>167809960

The whole burning thing in LW2 fucked me up so hard in a mission i couldn't believe it, see, i didn't realize that Advent Engineers got incendiary grenades at one point, so because i assumed they just had flashbangs and he was the alien furthest away from me, i didn't make any extra effort to take him.

Then he grenaded me, set 4 of my soldiers on fire, and they could literally do nothing except for hunker down.

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>>167809657

He is right, LW2 was a mistake.

I like the infiltration mechanic though

>>167812018
Should have taken a medic :^)

>>167813004

You're probably joking, but one of the biggest mistakes i've made on LW2 was not making sure every squad had a medic, i could've saved so many soldiers if i just had a medic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwO9YV6sZ4Y

you can never have a mission like this in the burning trash heap that is LW2

>>167813176
This is something I really dont get in lw2 - how the fuck are you supposed to have dedicated squads or make sure you have the right classes when the number of guys you can take fucking changes every mission?

So how long til we get options to make LW2 more like the previous games, whether it be official options the LW2 devs put in, or mods made by other people?

>>167813606
The final version of the Spectrum mod is trying to add OG XCOM mechanics. Take that with a grain of salt.

>>167813520

Well, in my case i pretty much used the squads as an excuse to "roleplay", i made themed squads, like, "ok, this is the A team, they have 1 of every class, they can handle anything" then i have another squad that was just a huge squad, so i'd use them for missions like destroy relays or stuff where more brute force was needed, and then i had a third squad which had a couple of good soldiers and then i just rotated rookies through it to level them up.

And my squads had a max of 6 people, and if there was a mission where i could bring mroe than 6 people i would just either add rookies if it seemed like an easy mission, or members from other squads if it seemed like a hard mission.

I don't know what's the intended purpose of squads other than managing where your soldiers go, in reality you don't have to use squads at all, just keep all your soldiers out of squads and pick who you want to bring when a mission pops up.

>>167814369
assigning squads to regions could be neat but that wasnt touched on at all

>>167814369

>>167814762
Or you could use them as platoons, assigning 20+ soldiers to each one and rotating within them as needed.

>>167814762

You know, that would be a pretty interesting mechanic. It's already sort of there with the havens and the resistance fighters.

It's probably not even hard to implement.

>>167815205
>>167815242
i like this we should try to expand on this some how

Does Long War 2 fuck with dice rolls? I reverted to my last save, and suddenly doing the exact same thing no longer works. I thought dice rolls went unchanged even if you loaded an old save.

>>167815601
>>167815242

Well, the recruit job already exists right? From what i understand, right now what it does is that it recruits resistance members and automatically adds them to a haven right?

It's probably relatively simple to make it so that it just recruits rookies and automatically adds them to your armory, then you could just manually add them to havens and give them jobs as normal.

I'm not sure what would be the point other than having better soldiers in those resistance missions though.

>>167816165
you could make the skyranger be used for something else and the stationed troops would be performing mission in the region

>>167809657
The mechanics just need fine tuning.

This is the first version of a large mod.

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>>167809657
>Long War 2 is beatable! You just have to realize...That you're going to lose. You're going to lose missions, lose soldiers, lose regions to retaliations, lose money from advent swiping it, lose Intel from BS dark events, etc. You're even going to lose the game and probably have to restart. Your job in Long War isn't to win, it's to lose strategically.

Ok maybe its time to boot up my XCOM EW game.

I played EW LW1 version 14 or 15, cant recall but MECs were still fun from the sounds of it.

What mods are essential for LW1? Since i come from back from XCOM 2, i feel like playing EW will be hell on earth because of how clunky the game is and unmoddable compared to 2.

>>167817139
>EW

Go back further anon. Back to your roots.

It's time to smoke the ramp again.

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>>167817301
Nigga i played UFO Defense back when i was in primary school, i played though Terror From The Depth in my summer days and played though UFO again in the PS1.

I glued my screen when EU trailer came out and played that shit in my PS3 (i fucking hated EU for that reason alone).

I still have to play though a complete camping of EW (LW, fuck vanilla) and FMP along with Piratz while doing a thesis.

I have time for gaming at least 1 hour per day, i need something to be satisfactory tactical game that fills my void for tacticool operators operating on aliens while begin fair.

I just dont remember that well if LW1 was more fair than LW2 or XCOM 2 alpha strike madness or not, i did hear somewhere here that there is mods for LW1 but i cant find shit on google.

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>>167816032
It does, and it does it to fuck with the player explicitly I'm sure.

I had this save where I ran the VIP through an overwatch to the extraction point and survived. Got that hangar glitch. When I reloaded and ran it through the overwatch again every time the shot killed the VIP.

It's all sorts of bullshit.

Is there a way to edit the between turn reinforcements? Sometimes its two sometimes its four.

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welp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMjvqPJ5tKY

>>167818595
this isn't first contact, and it isn't anywhere close it to anyway.

that's fucked

>>167818595
I saw this on reddit,
This isn't intentional, apparently only ONE mission is supposed to come up when you liberate everyone, but it does every region instead. It'll be fixed on 1.2

>>167816449

What we desperately need is Guerilla War mod to come out, then mash LW2 and Guerilla War together into a freak supermod, and then have the ABA2 guy come up with some cool aliens, and finally hire some dude to make new models and shit for all the new aliens and weapons, including the LW2 ones.

Then we need 2 years of balancing and fine tuning, and we'll have the perfect game. Until everything breaks by the expansion, and then when we finally have it all done Terror of the Deep 2 is going to come out and no one will play the mod ever again.

>>167817778
Don't you know that it is the aliens that save scum, no you?

WTF are the red patches on the R6S armor sleeves for? IR?

>>167820843
looks like a reflector

>>167805520
>Oh, shit.
>XCOM?
>Probably XCOM.
>Fuck, guess we better patrol... uhh... this way...
>*HELP -brrrt- XCOM -brrrrt- ASSISTANCE REQ -pew pew- AAGGH*
>We're gonna die, aren't we?

>>167807634
What's wrong with Bradford's face? Is... is it just him smiling that's so off?

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>>167821325

That's a faceless, Bradford doesn't smile.

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>>167818595

>terror mission on cemetary map
this seems like a bad omen

>>167809657
why do people still take this cuck seriously? he's gone off the deep end over the past year

>>167823401
it's the second worst terror map next to street hurricane

>>167824382
because he made some good points. Why don't you try to start an actual conversation on how you disagree with him.

This game is fun as fuck, its a shame that i'm shit and have to save abuse in order not to lose important soldiers. I can only play a mission or two per day because of that.

>>167824591
>first appearance of sectopods
>there are two
>heavy floater pod

it was pretty shit m8

got out alright though

anyone else dislike the laser sound efffects used by the LW team? they sound really shitty compared to EW

>>167825368
I'm about to research them am I in for a massive disappointment?

>>167825526
you need to build them to stand any sort of chance

the models are superb but the sound is lacking for the machine gun variant, shotgun and sniper are good but the pistol/rifle/smg sounds are kinda chintzy sounding if thta makes any sense

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Still hoping someone would pick up the Dr. Vahlen in an xcom virgin killer sweater.

Well. If we had any drawfriends.

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>tfw your starting continent isnt fucking interconnected

>>167826461
God damn it anon I have too much fucking homework for this shit.

>>167805505
Prolly why the pay is so shit

>>167808484
You first

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Does anyone else like the way repeaters look on some guns, even though its kind of silly?

It just looks so neat.

>>167809657
my boy bagel just straight ethered Lump god DAMN

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Why are HQ raids so much fun?

>>167828301
She should be breeding not fighting.

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>watch NL play LW2
>remember itchy trigger tentacle exists

I don't know what the fuck they were thinking putting this nonsense in as a default. People are going to think that bullshit is part and parcel of the la so hard buttfuck meme and not disable it, or not even know to edit the .ini in the first place.

>>167809657
so I guess we won't be seeing a finale to his LW2 campaign on youtube

>>167811847
>the true battle is between the player and the developer
>if the player wins the game, the developer, I, Johnny Lump, will have lost
>also he fucking criticized my perfect, magnificent design logic and therefore needs to die

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>>167828431
I believe in equal opportunity employment anon

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>>167828639
I think they were trying to make overwatch traps more dangerous

>>167828681
what else is new?

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so...am i going to have to reload? stuck here after a hit and run shot and can't do anything

>>167827586

Me too.

>>167828639

What the hell is itchy trigger tentacle?

>>167829685
enemies have a chance to receive a free action (usually an attack) when they patrol into you outside of concealment

the name is derived from an EW/LW second wave option that conferred a similar ability to the aliens when a pod is activated

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>>167809657

>awakened Beagle

>>167830071

Ooooh, i've seen that. It made me confused because at first i thought it was just the enemy that spotted you that could do that, kinda like in Vanilla when a pod discovered you in concealment, but then numerous enemies did it at one point.

>>167809657
>the game is too complex guise
>i cant figure it out without losing some guise

fucking casual
get lost

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>>167830102
>>167809657
HE AWAKENS

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>>167831315

>>167829610
I get freezes like that rarely but they fix themselves after a couple seconds

Does long war2 allow bigger squad sizes?

>>167832082
yes

>>167832082
yes and no
you can go up to 10 soldiers
but the more you bring the longer it takes to infiltrate
not infiltrating all the way to 100% will increase the difficulty of the mission

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Do you miss Thin Mints?

>>167832405

I think snakes are far more bullshit, so yes.

>>167832382
What if set 25 soldiers with mod and just zerg rush it without infiltrating?

>>167831605
i had to just kill the game and restart

mission went smoother the second time around so i guess it wasn't all bad, though

Is my long war bugged? Sometimes squaddies come back from a mission and level four times to sergeant.

>>167832471
then you will be doing swarming missions
not sure how many enemies will be on those but sounds fun to give it a try

>>167832471
you'll probably take a lot of losses so hopefully the mod will include free rookies or smth

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War is hell

>>167833015
modding was a mistake ~ Jake Solomon

>>167833015
You went overboard, but I do want maybe one of these in my campaign. Sauce?

>set up ambush
>going perfectly
>guy gets acid
>panics for five turns and cries like a little faggot
>ends up gravely wounding my squad because he's crying and he had some nades I could have used

Is it alright to throw this guy to advent so he gets processed? Not like he won't be super useless once he gets shaken.

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REAL FUCKING HILARIOUS LUMP

>hail of bullets is going to cost 5 ammo in the next patch
why not just move it to tech sergeant and get rid of cyclic fire, at least then there's a useful ability at that level

>>167832803
Troops coming back definitely sounds like a bug.

why the fuck does the viper's tongue-thing not have a cooldown?
>be viper
>sit in heavy cover in the back
>spam tongue twice a round
>recieve auto-win

>>167835895
>the second strongest muscle in the body
>having a cooldown
Why doesn't breathing have a cooldown like hello?

>>167809657
Nothing of what he said is wrong.

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>>167835895
Because missed shots proc Hellweave
>snek tries to grab soldier
>missed
>takes damage
>gets set on fire
>fire renders it incapable of hitting or doing much else
>suffers an agonizing death befitting of all vipers
Hllweave ain't the best item but the effect it has on snek makes it worthwhile.

>>167809657

You tell'em, Beags

>epic improved AI
>improved pathing for patrols
>theyll try to find you

they just stand around and the only reason they arent executed worse than vanilla is because coverbonuses are buffed

>>167837953
it's even better when they all just stand around in one big clump so you have to engage 10 ayys at once

>>167831272

>nyuurrr, he doesn't worship my sacred calf

>>167824715
nah he said cuck, that's a flawless argument

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Post the names of your most succesful squads.

>Magician's Red
Formed out of the remnants of my old ace squad in this camp. Cleared two HQ without devastating losses.

>Metal Gear
The sneaker squad, made out of only shinobis and those who gain Conceal/Phantom from AWC. Easy mission guaranteed.

>Bad Company
Support squad from my last camp, did no really take on any of its own missions, instead just contained filler troops for other squads to use. Remarkably low casualties considering these were usually sacrifical low rank newbies.

>>167809657
If Beagle is so knowledgeable, how come he isn't releasing more videos?
Checkmate, aussie shitposter.

>>167809657
I disagree with his complaints on the infiltration system, having some strategical decisionmaking is great. His comments on RNG may or may not be correct, and the lack of information on the mod is annoying but not a dealbreaker.

I think 90% of the problems of the mod are summed up in the last 10% of his post. JL made an experiment with a radically different style of xcom game, with stealth, and I don't like it.

>>167838838
im not actually a long dong fan
but complaining that a game is too complicated and you have to find stuff yourself?
reeks of being a newfriend cancer which is destroying gaming as a whole slowly and painfully

>>167839880
Easy Company
the rest are just substitutes

>>167839880
>shinobis
I will never not cringe when someone mentions that class name.

>>167841236
Same, but saying something else like weebwarrior or narutos is just evading the cold hard truth that for some reason the scouts are now shinobis, it is imo just retarded.

>JoINrbs thinks supply raids should give 1/3 the alloys/elerium and troop columns should give none
wew

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This is fucking impossible.

>LW2 normal difficulty
>First mission all guys in full cover
>First alien shoots one hit kills a guy through full cover from several tiles away
>Second one shoots and takes a guy to one HP and he freaks out
>Being flanked by a drone that is close but I still have 50% at best on all my guys
>Even when I do hit it's a graze even though I turned them off the slider doesn't work
>All my guys have 30% at best on the aliens except for the one who is flanked and 4 tiles away, in that case I have 60%
>All miss except one guy who hits the drone (Graze for 2 dmg) and one guy who hits the flanked guy (Graze for 2 dmg)
>Next alien turn another guy gets shot and one hit killed through full cover and another guy also gets hit
>Quit and load
>Make different moves this time
>First alien turn again for this fight
>A guy gets one hit killed through cover and another one gets taken to 1 HP and freaks out
Guess I need to le git gud at the random number generator that decides if I'm going to lose the game at the start of each turn.

>>167842791
use your flashbangs, and don't be afraid to use half cover to get flanks. other than that there's not much you can do about troopers making 10% shots besides alpha striking them

>>167842967
Oh you reminded me. The one that one hit killed my guy the second time was flashbanged.

>>167843162
yeah, up until predator armor is a thing long war can be pretty shit with unlucky rolls

>>167842791
>getting shot
>on normal

get not shit first in vanilla

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Advent strength is at 10. Raiding first alien HQ. Enemy activity: Swarming.

I can't friends, I have no more grenades. Only 3 flamer charges, a flashbang and one medkit.

This is the end.

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>all these anons playing through long war
>I keep getting stuck under the Avenger because I refuse to stop using uniform manager

Holy fuck it is so tiresome having to restart the game every single time

>>167843949
Should've downloaded guerilla ops and done some guerilla ops first, senpai.

I think I'll just start a new LW2 game, my first one I lost an entire squad of soldiers, didn't realize I could build the GTS at game start, and now I'm just constantly grinding.

>>167812018
Does Hunker down put out fires?

>>167816293
Have a squad stationed in the avenger that uses the skyranger for quick strikes that need to be done anywhere. Plus call the skyranger in for evac missions for all squads when needed.

A regional garrison mod would be cool.
Maybe just make them part of the rebel personally and then you can deploy missions from the havens using personal as soldiers.

Easier way to train personal as well as giving them more use. Let you transfer troops from the avenger to the regional garrisons, and maybe add a new "Hunting" job for resistance personal that gives the guys combat experience, and has a chance to give various corpses as a reward and even a very small chance to lower advent strength in the region.

>>167846363
No. Running into puddles/rivers does.

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Could someone please make these outfits.

I'll give you some of my wageslave money.

>>167846627
senpai I think you mean to be saying personnel.

>>167846363
It does with the stop drop and roll mod, otherwise no.

>>167846736
>$200 per character

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>>167846914
sold!

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>faceless meeting mission
>everyone but 1 guy took SMGs

What class do I make rookies with 13 mob? I'm only recruiting 16+ mob, one of my originals had 13 mob and she's always dragging behind the team and barely able to help out.

>>167847353
i wish someone would make a mod to remove those missions or just make you auto win them theyre so boring and all the resistance guys look like fucking retards because their customisation is random

>>167847616
assault for run and gun so you can dash more

SOMEONE PLS MAKE MOD FOR COSMETIC GEAR FROM STALKER GAMES

THE MODELS FROM THE GAMES ARE ALL SHIT QUALITY IN COMPARISON TO HOW XCOM 2 LOOKS SO ITD BE BETTER IF YOU MADE THEM ALL YOUR SCRATCH TO BE BETTER LOOKING RATHER THAN RIPPING THEM FROM STALKER

THX

>>167847807
>SOMEONE PLS
no
do it yourself

>>167847864
no
thats why im here asking others to do it
youll do it wont you

thx

>>167847898
well too bad
because nobody will do it for free

>>167847807
>>167847898
I could actually take some time and port the models but I could be doing something else and have no incentive. The fact that you're intentionally being a fucking faggot is just the icing on the cake.

>>167846884
>I think you mean to be saying personnel
Man I'm tired.

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How can I make it so that my rookies always start with a certain armor or weapon skin that has been added into the game?

Can XSkin do this or do I need to fiddle with the .ini?

Retroactive AWC

What month do you start out on again?

Also are the continent bonuses randomized?

>>167848475
>I could actually take some time and port the models
cool

thanks man look forward to it

>>167848738
Literally CHEATING

>>167809657
I cannot agree strongly enough on the last point

fuck stealth in xcom, bring back high explosives and the leveling of entire cities NOW

Thinking of customising a bunch of weapon mods so you have to actually build them all even the conventional weapons, which will cost you, and they all have different stats. Is there a mod already that does this though?

>>167841236
What are you even doing on 4chan if a little bit of moonspeak triggers you so?

>>167834345
>Chance for newly recruited members to be faceless

how does that work? Like, do you recruit them and then when you go to a mission they reveal themselves as faceless on turn 0? I have yet to play LW2

>>167850009
It's not about moonspeak triggering someone
It's about it just doesn't belong there

>>167850009
I don't even watch Anime or read Japanese comics or even like Japanese games.

I just come here for the game general threads for XCOM and a couple of others.

>>167850121
It's a stealth-focused class that uses a sword to kill things. Why not call it "Shinobi"?

You can say "it doesn't belong there" all you want, anon. Just do everyone a courtesy and append "in my opinion" to the end of that.

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Wait a minute, the workshop provides power now?
Shit this changes my whole layout idea.

What's the most optimal LW2 base configuration?

>>167850272
sure this isn't just because of the power coil?

>>167850258
Eh, I'd rather name it saboteur or fencer, oh well, I can change it myself,
>>167850272
You're building it on a coil, everything provides power on it

>assigning haven advisors to match the nationality of the region

Idk why but this feels nice.

>>167850258
Not the guy you are quoting, but just look at the name of the other classes

>Assault
>Grenadier
>Gunner
>Ranger
>Sharpshooter
>Specialist
>Technical
>Psi Operative

All names that fit a militaristic and 'tacticool' theme. And then you have 'Shinobi' which simply does not fit.

A shinobi specializes in infiltration, close combat and information-gathering through scouting, why not call him "Scout" or "Infiltrator" or "Saboteur"? Those names are actually in the same vein as the other ones

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>>167850363
>>167850378
No, things on a power coil that don't give energy cost no power on a power coil.

Things that do give energy get a +7 bonus to production when built on a power coil.

Gentlemen how do we make SPARKs not shit in vanilla?

>>167850559
Senpai I think scout fits better too but I'm not even complaining, ninjatos are fucking BASED. You're being very pedantic about something that effectively means nothing in game.

>>167850750
Install the "Metal over Flesh: Upgradeable SPARKs" mod.

Works really well without making them overpowered.

They even start stronger

Is there a way to flip lasers and mag weapons? I want it to go gunpowder > magnets > laser > plasma

Having magnets come before lasers just seems silly.

>>167850750
better health, armour, hack, defence and aim growth through levelling, allow weapon mods and pcs upgrades, increase their main gun damage, allow more heavy weapon charges, introduce 10+ more customisation options

>>167850947
You just contradicted yourself there buddy.

>>167833268
check loverslab

>>167851080
I meant the other way around, because going from fucking lasers to magnetics seems like a downgrade.

It feels wrong to even type "lasers come before magnets"

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>>167846736
This.

There's a lot of tacticool but there's no ghetto operator mods except for the pot with a flashlight taped to it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=732105995

Is there any way to update this to work with LW2?

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So I just unlocked lasers, what would be the good thing to research next?

>>167851784
Adv lasers then hybrid mats and combat armor

>>167851439
anti-tank rifles and rocket launchers are definitely needed in LW2.

I still miss the Gauss Long Rifle.

lw2 is bad

>>167851921
When should I officer autopsy or resistance radio?

>>167852140
you should autopsy the resistance radio. You could not predict the outcome, though it will be intriguing.

>>167852140
If you're expanding to regions not connected to your home region get radio, your home region already has a tower built.

>>167850750
programmable like psi solider in the turret room

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How much priority do you usually put on the creation of new weapons when you unlock the tier?

Putting a lot into making more laser guns would kind of drain my supplies at the moment.

>>167853163

why the fuck do they call it a "laser stengun" and not just "laser SMG"

>>167853163
If you haven't liberated a region yet make only the bare minimum for your best shooters. Once you have income, make a set for your heavy combat squad, should be able to outfit 10 people with lasers and research mag, then start passing down lasers to the B team while you build up mag guns for A team.

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So Tandem Warheads isn't working. Is this a bug or magnificence?

>>167853440
grenades do 3-5 damage at point blank

>>167853342
I haven't really developed an "A-Team" as of yet, mostly just passing around an assortment of different ranks to try and get people leveled up more evenly, but I guess I could arrange them all into an A, B and C team depending on how things develop. Been trying to run as many missions as it is feasible to without spreading my men too thin.

>>167853528

Well first of all, it's a rocket, so it's supposed to do 3-7 point blank. Tandem is supposed to make it do 7, and not just at point blank.

>>167853743
>Tandem is supposed to make it do 7, and not just at point blank.
NO. Tandem doesn't mean max damage, it means the 3-7 doesn't become 1-4 at the edges of the rocket AOE.

>>167853739
Once you run your first HQ assault you'll know who your A-team is. It's the ten reliable people you send on a 15 day infiltration you absolutely don't want to repeat. Everyone else is just small squad stealth teams, but a B team will form when ADVENT runs a retaliation and your A team is infiltrating an HQ.

>>167853440
reminds me of the way old tandem warheads worked. when you have the perk, damage is randomised based on its variables instead of a certain max damage guaranteed done at closest blast point range.

>>167803721
My last name is black and I'm white, and I used to work with a black man whose last name was white

>>167853739
Go laser first because they shit on ballistics and give an aim bonus but are relatively low investment but skip mag for coilguns.

You need hybrid mats then elerium first.

>>167853832

Ugh. So it was magnificence all along.

>>167854213
that's pretty funny.

>>167854213
My company had a Black, a White, a Gray and a Brown

>>167850750
Class system. Buffed stats. Also >>167850917

Anyone using the DLC with LW2?

How is it?

>>167856476

it's ""balanced"" for LW2

>VariableFreq advancing the modding community's knowledge pool

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pYXtZ2Ucd2CmHqzsJTzQRbHoxQ6eVmc0WdsQV9FUkrE/edit#gid=0

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>get told that doing your first supply raid in the second month at 0 infiltration with max squad size is really good
>mfw the 'swarming' part was literal
My head hurts after this and I want to go to bed

>>167850629
Workshops give power when built on a power coil fyi

>>167858932
>only 2 wounded
>0 deaths

looks like it was indeed a good idea, anon

SHIVs: I'm envisioning something very much akin to what they were in EW/LW - tough modular scout-tanks

Other than a need to implement some sort of tank-looking grenade launcher, these are pretty feasible. I'd better put time into getting the animations from EW to work though. It may be best to give them a dedicated ammo slot or grenade slot based on upgrades or the Chassis equipped than any utility items slots.

Since SHIV chassis can't jump, I think a 'winch' ability that works much like Grapple but given an action cost makes sense to me. The models don't have a visible winch to use but I'm not sure I want to force players to lose a SHIV unit if it can't make it to a rooftop evac. Winches may break concealment: I've only seen and used loud ones in real life.

To be clear, I do want a SHIV Chassis as an available superheavy armor for Sparks and Cyborgs but that would be with the humanoid torso. Advent will field some just to look like creepy Terminator or Necron units. But that chassis is different from SHIVs as independent units.

High hack score but no ranged hacking (direct interface).

SHIVs do have a screen on the back, now that you mention hacking. I wonder how we can get that to work like Gremlins. At least for the EW-style Drone as a secondary I can use the 'tablet held by soldier' visual but it would be a shame to not use the SHIV's screen.

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>>167852000

There is always LW One.

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>>167810426
>>167840394
>>167849720
>>167809657
So basically remove stealth, or at least reduce it to smash and grab situations and the odd Dark VIP assassination (I still think those are fun).
The game being "too" complex I don't really see as a criticism, just a statement of fact that the mod has depth. More documentation is kinda obvious, this stuff should be listed in game, or the devs should take time to coordinate with some people and make UFOpaedia.org an authoritative source.
The question is, how would you reduce stealth so it's not a necessity without simply making the game easier? Are there some simple changes that wouldn't require tons of re-working, or is it too intertwined with the core tweaks and changes of LW? Maybe toning down the difficulty through timers while re-working the shinobi class and changing up evac timers is all you really need.

I know I had fun with my Veteran LW2 campaign, but I also ran like less than 10 stealth missions the whole way through which means I probably was playing un-optimally.

>>167852000
Eventually, when I never get a PC that can run this game, I don't know if I should do LW2 or try a DIY version via standalone mods.

>>167860284
How about you play vanilla first, like an actual human being?

>>167852000
i went back to lw1

jump in anon, the water's fine

>>167860130
Make it impossible to do most missions with a single japanese master. Tiny sneak and run missions can be fun and rewarding but they should be rare (see covert extractions in lw1). This can be done either by limiting mechanics that allow stealth completion [smg stealth, specialist remote hacking] or by placing stuff in a way that forces you to kill 3-4 pods every mission.

>>167861031
I was thinking of just keeping skyranger evac at a minimum of three for everything but Dark VIP assassinations. Pretty sure that would end stealth runs instantly.

>>167860030
But it's complicated to configure!

Anyone try rushing lasers and predator armor then skipping magnetic for coilguns yet?

>>167862003
There is nothing to configure.
Unless you mean changing two lines to unfuck the air-game, which you can do through second wave anyway.

>>167862003
>But it's complicated to configure!
what

>>167859845
>>High hack score but no ranged hacking (direct interface).

This is the only one that stands out for me as having a high hack score right out of the bat sound weird unless they gain that from an upgrade of sorts. Nice ideas otherwise.

>>167858932
>only 40 enemies

so small

>>167859296
They also give 1 power when not.

>>167862614
For YOU

>>167862982
Oh I thought it was 0.

>>167862141
You could have the a 'Interface Module' be a utility item, allowing for melee hacking. The ability to blue move and stun an enemy doesn't sound too imbalanced to me.

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>>167863654

Now that sounds more likely.

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>>167850559
>>Psy Operative

That also sounds quite out there when compared to the others.

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This is the first of these I've seen in the campaign, what does it actually accomplish for me? I don't need intel rewards, is this still important to do? LW2 wiki is very unclear for the moment.

Why do I want to "get ADVENT's attention?" Doesn't vigilance go up for every mission I complete anyway? Does getting attention mean something other than vigilance?

Why would I even want ADVENT's attention?

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Which one do I want?

>>167865360
Don't ADVENT move their troops between regions?
I think completing those types of missions will cause ADVENT to focus more troops into the region you complete it in.

>>167865841
Should've went walk fire first then locked on. Overwatch meme will be dodged by shadowstep vipers.

>>167865360
I think it's good if you want to draw their attention and strength away from one of the regions you want to focus on.

>>167865841
Locked On. Pump Action is meme-tier unless you're super dangerous and love CLOSERANGE. Suppression is just covered better by Gunners.

>>167865360
This basically makes that region a lightning rod for ADVENT's troop columns. If you do that mission, they'll swarm that region. It's great to make a sacrificial region later in the game by drawing their strength then abandoning the region (putting everyone on Hiding and ignoring it, basically) but otherwise, and especially early on, it's pretty shit. I'd skip it unless you're ready to abandon the region.

>>167865841
>not taking Walk Fire
Oh man.

I guess you could take Locked On is the choice here, Suppression in really special cases.

What custom classes do you guys use?

Dear /xcg/.

1) Does anybody here know if trail version of Autodesk Maya or Educational one can be used to extract, modify or make new animations for XCOM 2 and uploaded on Steam as part of mods?
2) Is there any written (not video) guide for extracting animations from X2 to Maya? Are there any best recommended guides for total beginners about modifying ones?
3) If I completely suck at moddeling (aka never did any), I can pretty much forget about adding separate weapon types?

Sorry for asking so many questions and thanks for any replies.

Since I finished X2 about 4 weeks ago, I completely lost will to play video games but I started to think that actually making something productive, like custom class mods Valkyria Chronicles inspired ones might help with breaking this apathy. Even if nobody is going to use it.

>>167865893
>>167866016
>>167866138
I don't want them there at all, they've got an avatar facility hidden away in there that I'm gonna have to hit soon. Passing on this one, seems like a player trap. I didn't even have my guys working intel jobs there, it just popped up hoping to get me.

>>167866301
Yeah, I think you can get pretty good timer Advent Ambush & Troop Transport missions after doing one of those, but if you have shit to do there, then you definately dont want that.

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>>167866268

P-please respond ;_;

>>167868638
'no'
Go Google those answers

>>167851252
They do it because in LW1 guess was the principle technology behind the magnetic acceleration and containment of hot plasma, which was created by superheating the atmosphere.

They tried to make it like xcom was progressively reverse engineering alien plasma weapons.

>>167868638
I'm sorry anon, I know nothing about modding.

>>167868707

Cant find answer for first one on DuckDuckGo. I can find guides for second, but there are many ones and I wanted to ask already experienced people about which one would be best for total beginner.

I figured out that asking on general would be best way to start, since Im completely inexperienced and I wanted to make two additional weapon types (hunting rifles and LMGs) along with the classes, but tied with upgrade with basic ones (aka if player would buy upgrade for assault rifle, one of those new types would get upgrade as well).

>>167859845
I miss the little buggers. I thought they were cute and actually useful. I brought them with a squad of moderate-high placed ranks as a anti armour role, flank protector/overwatch, flanking and take damage.


Anyone know whats the highest advent strength a region can have?

>>167869715
>Anyone know whats the highest advent strength a region can have?
Highest I've personally seen is 12. I think there's no limit though.

>>167869715
Highest I've seen was 13

>>167869894
>>167869859
Does completing any mission even item steals lower it?

>>167868638
Not as far as I know. Try asking on facepunch or /r/xcom2mods