AGDG - Amateur Game Development General

This time I'm not posting progress since you told me my art was shit.

i hope we can all refrain from giving him replies. I believe in you guys.

>>167744419
Your art is shit.

SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.

But that's fine, you can still get better. Did those fags at least tell you WHY your art was shit?

Anyone need art? Looking for a programmer.

>>167744554
No.

>>167744554
post art

>>167744554
I am looking for an artist but first tell me what software you are using.

>>167744597
Sure, but first can you tell me a little about your game?

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>>167744554

>>167744603
Photoshop

>>167744712
Wow disgusting, nevermind.

>>167744712
Sorry but I'm not interested in photoshop at this time. Good luck in your endeavors though!

>>167744820
lol called it

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>>167744712
>using proprietary software

>last 100 posts in the previous general were purely shitposting and actively ignoring any progress that was posted
are you proud of yourselves?

>>167744712
ew

>>167744912
Well, I spent that time making rain work, even though I can't solve basic character and camera movement. So, y'know, priorities.

Still better than the shitposters.

>>167744912
Rude.

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I added Health system, Collecting coins, explosions when hit, and boss moment for extra difficulty.

What do you think ?

Has the recap happened already?

Do spec maps always turn out shitty in unity, or am I just using them poorly somehow?

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>>167745738
Man I remember when I use to try and make mods for HL2. I joined 5 mod teams as a modeler and they all fell apart without fail. Atleast I got actual experience making in-game models though.

In what situation would you want to use triangle strips instead of triangles? Isn't it horribly limiting to be forced to arrange triangles in a specific way?

>>167746752
>engies

>>167746752
They're significantly more efficient to draw

>>167747260
That doesn't really answer the question.

>>167746436
it's thursday

>>167747431
You would use it in a situation where you want to minimise the amount of draw calls (aka always)

>>167746752
I'd only use them for big regular meshes, like terrain for example. Or some special effect meshes like trails.

>>167747557
This has nothing to do with draw calls.

>>167747678
strip = 1 draw call
tri = many draw calls

>>167746752
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16881807/once-more-triangle-strips-vs-triangle-lists

>>167747714
You usually either use a indexed triangle list or triangle strip with current hardware, you are never drawing single triangles. You can have multiple triangles or triangle strips in a draw call. Using one or the other doesn't change the amount of drawcalls.

>>167745936
Sure it takes about a week to get the basics down. It takes years of practice to really get competent at it, though.

>>167747917
Strips use less memory because you don't double up vertex coords

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3 days I have fought with UI design. I just can't come up with design that looks good and shows everything you want.

Speaking of draw calls, I often see people mentioning one magical call which draws everything and it makes me wonder: how?

I guess you can load still objects into one vertex array, but what about the rest? Or do you supposed to use frame buffers?

>>167748130
try harder
also post your current design

If i want to put my game on steam later, how do i implement their achievements?

>>167748231
I didn't understand a single thing you just said. What kind of game are you making where you have to think about that shit?

>>167748231
>frame buffers
yes, that's what they're talking about

>>167748231
What's a draw call?

>>167747987
You don't double any data in an indexed list either (except for the indices).

>>167748231
Maybe people are talking about defered rendering (lighting and stuff can be done there with a single additional draw call).
But for actual meshes you have to consider that putting everything in a single mesh makes culling pretty much impossible also animated meshes have to be seperated most likely.

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I am biting the bullet and doing something I should have done a long time ago. I'm flattening the map to mostly 1 layer. The 3 layer thing just wasn't working... people had no idea where they were or what was happening. Feels really shitty to throw out a ton of work. But after flattening one section, it just feels so much better and clearer what is going on. It also makes the shortcuts so much clearer. The thing is, people just can't form mental spatial models of an abstracted psedo-3rd dimension.

It's hard to even explain what was going on, but there were essentially three "slices" of world that overlapped. Doors would take you between the slices. So everything was spatially congruous, there was no warping or teleporting. But it essentially felt like there was because when you moved through a door, you were in what seemed like a totally new place.

>>167748487
What is defered rendering?

>>167748327
>What kind of game are you making where you have to think about that shit
It's not about the game, it's about the method.

>>167748616
foreground and background can work nicely if done sparingly, see: rayman 1

>>167748774
Sorry, I meant by layers, actually three superimposed maps. Each layer has a foreground, midground, and background. You would weave between the three maps as you went through doors.

>>167748676
You draw your meshes with a simple shader to bunch of frame buffers (called g buffer) and then do the lighting calculations later, this method is used by UE 4 for example (probably with added shenanigans).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_shading

>>167748904
without any hints how those layers connect spatialy that does sound confusing.

>>167746478
Is this a mod you were working on?
Looks comfy.

>>167748904
ah in that case, look at abe's oddyssey, that had something like that, and it was rarely confusing

>>167749096
Thanks for the reference point. It's a game I've wanted to play for a while.

>>167749248
Then you should play it before continuing on your game, it'll probably give you gameplay and mechanics ideas.

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>>167749248
the key takeaway is that the other layers were nearly always visible from where you were, or the layer had a transition animation that made it clear where you were going

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Woops, posted in the old thread without even paying attention, working on a HUD element to show the player they don't have their sword, gonna add a small bar next to this next to give players a rough idea of how much time is left

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>>167749050
Yeah I long time ago, was making an RPG with a friend with no programming experience using the HL2 engine. As you can imagine, it didn't very far beyond me creating models and him placing them in the engine.

>>167746127
needs fewer, faster bullets

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A reminder:
If you want to be a good dev, don't forget your other needs.

>>167750201
I have food and water, so far.

>>167750201
Psychological needs are a meme

>>167750201
Why is the purple layer titled "psychological needs" when there's also a bracket labeled "psychological needs" that doesn't include the purple layer?

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>>167744318

>Have no fucking clue how classes work in Python
>Just fumble through trying to write a small text RPG trying to figure out classes while getting hundreds of errors
>Go on stackoverflow and read one article
>I completely understand classes now

I am unstoppable. Know me anons, Now I am become scripter, creator of worlds.

>>167750334
Read the pyramid again, anon.

>>167750393
>psychological needs
>psychological needs
???

>>167750334

Try reading again Mr.Dyslexia.

Physiological needs.

>>167750201
How can one be "safe"? We can never be "safe".

>>167750201
>mfw since high school i've been living with only basic needs for 12 years now.

>>167748231
"Draw Call" tells "Object Manager" to Draw all Objects. "Object Manager" tells every "Object" to draw itself. "Object" calls it's own draw function.

>>167750415
>physiological needs
>psychological needs
spot the difference

>>167750201
>feeling of accomplishment
>this is below creative activities
So you need to release a successful game before you can make games.

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>>167750524
>1 draw for every object
>unordered context switching

Where are the pixelshit tutorials?

>>167750668
No, you just need to feel like you did. This is why idea guys are and always will be one step ahead of devs.

>>167750740
>pixelshit

>>167750740
lol anyone can do pixelshit, you don't need to learn anything. This is another fact I've learned from agdg memesters

>>167750740
on /ic/

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>>167750740
I HEARD YOU GUYS LIKED TUTORIALS

>>167750468
True, life can not always go the way we want it.
Things in life just happen.

There is war in your country. You pack your things, food and water and some warm clothes. And try to leave the dangerous place. You will not try to find love or make games if there is an active thread around you. But if you are hungry and without strength, you will take any risk to get food or else you would starve anyway.

So I think it is meant, something you actually can see control and circumvent. And not the things you can not control.

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>>167750740

>>167751086
>that disgusting animation

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>>167750740
.

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>tutorial that teaches the exact thing you need
>stops right before getting to the point
>last upload 6 months ago
>in the mean time, the same guy made other tutorials, so it's not like he died
Every time.

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>>167751165
>>167750740

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>>167751165
>>167750740
.

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>>167751195
>tutorial that teaches the exact thing you need
>skips explaining all the parts you're confused about and expects you to just copypaste it

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>>167751165
>>167750740
/

>>167751365
>steal

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>>167751165
>>167750740

>>167751456
Standing on the shoulders of giants.

>>167751512
Be a giant

>>167751575
I'd rather make inspirational one-liners in /agdg/ than make games.

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Selling my game project. Estimated profit: 10000$. Buyout: 2500$.

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>>167751730

I think you may have misread the title.

>>167751607
>not doing both
How do you expect to inspire anyone

>102 posts
>3 (THREE) progress posts
holy shit this place is bad
if you don't have progress, don't post

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>>167751837
Oh shit, I accidentally became a professional. Time to leave, boys. I'll always remember you , most likely not though.

>>167751897
progress is for nodevs.

>>167751897
I've been in a 750 poster thread with 1 actual progress post, this is good.

>>167751897
>not posting progress with a comment like that
at least I'm not a hypocrite

>>167751897
>3 (THREE) progress posts
How many of those are from you?

>>167745738
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>>167748616
>>167749603

>>167751897
I count 4.

>>167752227
I count one :)

>>167751897
>no anime posted
What did you expect?

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>>167752419
>the OP pic attracted all the gay fags to the thread and repelled innocent anime devs

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neko mimi maido robo-pepe café

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>>167752531
oh

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Comfy progress!
Almost finished with the treasure report UI.

Later today I'll write dialog for the other NPCs and maybe start working on the main menu. I want to get this over quickly since I started so early.

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>>167752523
I've been telling you for years now.

Anime is progress.

>>167752634
Oh shit your ship is sinking

Imagine your game is complete.

Now, convince me to stop playing Baldur's Gate to play your game instead.

>>167753138
No fucking chance. For one, it's not even an RPG.

>>167753138
It has catgirls

>>167753138
Reminder that you're not just competing with current releases, you're also competing with the entire backlog of games ever created.

Keep it as a hobby frienders.

>>167753138
I can't, my game doesn't appeal to shit taste.

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I've always wanted to created something, to me the idea of living, dying without having created something "special" sounds terrible, without exaggerating.
I spent the last few years learning Japanese and succeeded, got N1 for those who knows what it is. For that reason that also means that I have completely neglected art and my goal to make games. As of today I realize I still feel empty, and I sometimes wonder if I shouldn't have used these past few years focusing on art rather than learning another language.
In the past I had spent something like 6 months studying art fundamentals and a bunch of pixel art tutorials and "studies", too, but then it all stopped in favor of jp stuff.

I know how to study/learn a new skill/what discipline is, but in this case I feel like the problem is different. If I were asked to learn yet another language/any other skills, I could do it, but for art I feel lost because my autism can't get a good grasp on it. I do not feel motivated by the thought if grinding stupid fundamentals, or even forcing myself to draw daily if I do not even feel much enjoyment out of it. After all if I really wanted to draw wouldn't I be doing it every day already? These past days I've forced myself opening Aseprite or picking up some paper and a pen and drawing but it just feels too hard, or rather than "hard", I would say unnatural. It's as if I was missing on something there. I know I want to create something big, I'm the biggest idea guy there is and I can already envision the game(s) I want to make, but I can't get myself to train my art skills.

One solution I'm envisioning would be to work on my game anyway and get better at art that way, like using my game as a catalyst for my motivation. I rather like the sound of it but I keep reading or getting told that to get good at pixel art you need to get good at art anyway... so then we come back to that dumb vicious circle.

Anons, tell me about you guys, as I refuse to believe I'm alone feeling that way.

>>167753252
nobody wants to play old shit

>>167753306
fite me
3 o clock
schoolyard

>>167753306
I like playing old shit

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>>167753138
you play as the president, it simulates everything.

>>167753252
why do authors, musicians, and film makers even bother, I mean, they are competing with every book, song, and movie every created, and all that shit has been around and produced much more vigorously than video games.

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>>167753306

>>167753306
Only casuals play modern games, they are mostly shit

>>167753464
It's like you make boring games on purpose.

>>167753464
>has to look away in embarrassment
>feels bad how long you've been working on this
Y-you have really put forth some effort here!

>>167753464
>everything
Even the price manipulation on imported goods by Big Gherkin?

>>167753559
implementing all that finance shit right now.

>>167751090
more likely:
>war in your country
>you get drafted

alternative would be:
>war in your country
>pack things
>try to leave
>get shot for treason

>>167753610
>implying Merkel won't just surrender on day 1

>>167753280
>I'm the biggest idea guy there is
This isn't compatible with "draw kindergarten-tier art for years until you reach an arbitrary level of 'quality' "

If you want to get good at art, you need to love doing it, or else you'll just have to deal with the suffering, and also realize that you will never like it even when your quality is satisfactory.

Learning art isn't the same as learning anything else, because art is extremely subjective. Even your skill is subjective, you can draw very appealing things and cringeworthy shit AT THE SAME TIME and not really understand what the difference between drawing those was. You can't measure art skill or quality.

Furthermode, art isn't just "art". Every thing you draw is different, and even the same thing can be different from different angles/poses. You can be a master at drawing motorcycles, but fall flat on your face when it comes to drawing people.

>>167753138
You get to punch skeletons, hookshot demons and throw lances. You also can play as a warforged with a battletoads style mighty boot or a kobold that shoots things with a crossbow or blows them up with flasks.

>>167753610
>war in your country
>shapeshift
>live in woods
>steal from nearby village
>befriend young loner/crazy old coot
>save village at great risk and self-sacrifice

>>167753280
Anon, art has not much to do with learning.
Art has to do with beauty. Embrace the beauty of life, then you can embrace art.

>>167753280
>One solution I'm envisioning would be to work on my game anyway and get better at art that way, like using my game as a catalyst for my motivation. I rather like the sound of it but I keep reading or getting told that to get good at pixel art you need to get good at art anyway... so then we come back to that dumb vicious circle.

Do that. That's the only way to rehab from ideaguying.
Now stop posting and go download your favorite engine to get started.

>>167751472
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>>167751086
>someone actually trying to help and post useful stuff

SHUT IT DOWN MODS THE SHITPOSTING IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH

>>167753306
>>>/school/

>>167753610
>war in your country
>pack things
>try to leave
>get shot for treason
I figure this is probably the way it will work for me if war happens.

>>167753306
Who says someone plays old shit. They play old classics. Better old classics than new shovel ware.

Guys have you looked at all the crap on Steam lately, do you want to contribute to this?

Design games with people in mind. People you actually like and not people you want to rob their money from for buying your shovelware game.

Ask yourself: Would you play your game?

>>167754120
>Ask yourself: Would you play your game?
I do, a lot.

>>167754120
Well there you have the difference between someone that loves videogames and loves making them and someone that makes them because they can get money or an ego boost from them.

>>167752634
How does she know where to drive with the sail in front of her face?

>>167754293
Female intuition

>>167754293
Female intuitiion.

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I finished the container menu, it now behaves as it should.

Gonna work on filling the contents of the container based on a database.

>>167753280
I would translate stuffs from jap to eng if I were you.

>>167752634
Female intuition

>>167754120
>Would you play your game?
It's a tricky question considering every dev plays their game for a shitton of time. Better to ask your buds andor various communities.

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>>167754347
>>167754353

>>167754120
>Ask yourself: Would you play your game?
trick question. i barely play games, why would i play a game i know inside out?

>>167754565
>i barely play games,
It shows, gogem. It shows. Not in a good way

I wouldn't mind making a game about female intuition desu

>>167754565
That's because your games don't have any actual mechanical depth.

Serious question, googs, you have a distinct art style, why have you not considered just making animated shorts?

@167754120
@167753802
@167753353
@167753410
@167753498
@167753513

thanks for the (You)'s

>>167754637
>Serious question, googs, you have a distinct art style, why have you not considered just making animated shorts?
but i have made animations.

>>167753464
>it's a googum menu simulator

what a surprise

at least democracy 3's menu looks nice

>>167754751
>at least democracy 3's menu looks nice
only for the uninitiated

>>167754637
http://pigpen.newgrounds.com

>>167754751
it's pretty cluttered and Dem3 isnt even anywhere as complex as what i'm making.

>>167754881
are you making a grand strategy game?

>>167754739
I mean go all out, the games you've made are usually really, really, experimental and off the beaten path of what's normally considered a traditional video game, it seems like you're hindering yourself by trying to push yourself into making games. I know I've done a lot of hobbies over the years, some of that has been animations and stuff, and everything I've made has been influenced by video games and I always tried to make shit seem like a game. At some point I realized I should just embrace it and just like, make game.

Where does your passion lie? I've wondered that for awhile now.

>>167754924
>genres
there's strategy and political/economic/conflict simulation

>>167752634
Cute. Have you tried swaying the ship as well though? Looks very static.

>>167755042
Yeah, I tried but it was messing with how the mechanical arm and rope work so I had to disable it. I do agree that it looks static like this.

>>167754925
im a polymath baka.
i desire to make all the things i make, games, animations, comics, music, im even writing a novel.

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>>167753687
>>167753729
I should probably try to find what "my art" is then. It's true I can't hope to create anything by feeling so negative about "art" in general, I need to work on my perspective on all of this.

Despite what I said, there are a few drawings I did that matter a lot to me and I did enjoy doing, but that's because they're related to my project. I think I probably got too caught up in this "getting good" /ic/ mentality, or generally what's often parroted around artwebsites. Of course I'm not saying any of this is bullshit either, but I guess I can't relate with those as I am now, so I should probably try to find and carve my own path for the time being. Perhaps once I've learned to love drawing again I'll find the need to acquire more fundamental knowledge to support myself in the future.

>>167753774
I think I will. First step should probably be working on a miniaturized version of my project that I could finish in a couple weeks / few months.

Thanks guys.

>>167754416
I already occasionally translate Japanese stuff, usually for /vg/ or /jp/ bros when it's relevant to a shared hobby, but nothing more than that. If you mean making money out of it, it's not really worth it, to give you an idea, working at McDonalds is more worth it. The one time I did make good money out of Japanese was when I was hired as a personal internet teacher/coach and asked 15€ / hr.

If you mean out of enjoyment, there's nothing really enjoyable in translating Japanese stuff. English isn't even my native language. Once you know Japanese you're happy enough being able to comprehend thing from a native perspective, other languages don't matter and aren't useful anymore.

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Which color palette for clothes looks best on this dudeguy?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12293162

>>167755164
So I've noticed, but I've never really felt much heart put into the games you make. At least with your art and animations I can tell you make damn sure to create something striking.

>>167755590
Truth is googs should just partner with others who can supply what he lacks, but he is too keen on the 1MA thing.
Like, imagine a googs + cactusquid collab, it would be amazing.

>>167755590
well it turns out you have no abilityto feel heart through media. such is real life.

>>167753280
Just find what you like to draw and do it
You have to force yourself a bit sometimes and if you want to make good figurative art you will have to force yourself to study even if you don't want to

>>167755380
that's a dude?

>>167755760
I dunno, there's a lot of games I've played where I've felt it was made with genuine care, that the person(s) behind it loved what they were doing and wanted to make something they themselves wanted to play. All I'm saying is making video games isn't one of your strong suites. I'm not about to tell you to stop, that'd be fucked up.

>post anything
>someone gives me 4 (You)s saying i'm sourcefag

so this is the state of /agdg/ huh
explain to me why the discord isn't superior

>>167756116
>not my strong suit
>i make esoteric shit no one else is making because it interests me
>somehow make a living off of it
explain this

>>167744318
>tfw you want that shirt because it looks good but you dont want to be recognized

>>167756383
>but you dont want to be recognized
Yes, the amount of people that will see you in that shirt and also know about this thread is incredibly high. Approaching infinity, even.

>>167756456
the chance is non-zero

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> [+] Pops are no longer pure data - now they are individual entities.
I really wanted to keep pops as data, but its way easier to implement stuff when they are actual object.

> [-] Too many pops can slow down the game - game can run 100 years(of ingame time) before becoming too slow.
I haven't actually counted how many pops is too many pops for my rig. I need to find a way to postphone the slowdown, but its not a huge priority right now - there is no point in dealing with endgame slowdown when there isn't even gameplay yet.

> [+] Now that pops are individual objects in code, I can attach properties to each pop, which will open up new alleys for future sub systems.
Currently they have "species" property. Species determine, what kind of planets a pop finds desirable.

> [+] Distance between stars now is also considered whenever a pop migrates.

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When dealing with low gravity, humans can make more gravity for their habitat, by constructing an inward slanted merry-go-round. The centrifugal effect would generate a force which feels like normal earth gravity.

I don't know of any solutions to lessen the effect of heavy gravity. Suspending people inside a liquid would help with walking and other movement, but the heavy gravity would still be rather heavy on internal organs like blood in blood vessels.

Does /agdg/ know of any ways that heavy gravity can be reduced?

I am asking this since different species would be naturally inclined to like different strengths of gravity. An alien from heavy gravity world would be able colonize lower gravity worlds with relative ease, when low gravity alien would find it extremely difficult to colonize any world that has more gravity.

I don't want to go the route of magical gravity field generators.

>>167756491
The same is true for an actual sharknado. Preparing yourself for one though is a waste of resources.

>>167756576
>Triegipt: Thrice the number of pyramids you get to see in regular Egypt!

Anyone knows a spline editor that deforms a model along a curve in Unity?(for free)

>>167756228
Simply because there's no "literally insane shitposter" there.
Then again the chatty format makes it get filled with useless garbage.

so where do you guys get your free textures for commercial projects?

or do you make them?

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I replaced the wisps' static placeholder graphics with a step forward in placeholder graphics so I can work out some visual shit as I go

I'm just using objects because it's just a crude test but I'll try to clean this shit up and start using particles today instead

Also I accidentally synced their movement frequency to the end of their shots and they look funky as fuck but it gives them a bit of personality I guess, so I might keep it

There's a lot of cleaning up to do but in general terms they're all around pretty good so far

Eyedolons (a type of enemy with 4 floating thingies that shoots laser at you if you get too close) are proving to be much harder to make so I'm gonna leave them for later

>>167756228
1: Can't say anything without verifying email
2: Names

>>167757128
http://www.texturise.club/

>>167757128

http://www.textures.com/

>>167757128
>free
All free art is shit.
All free textures are shit.

We programmers were idiots for making engines and coding libraries for free, artists have not be thankful a bit to us.

>>167757632
free libraries are shit too

>>167757672
How awesome it must be for you to be able to tell shit like this in our recent years.

>c libraries out there for free with games
>c++ libraries out there for free with games
>java, lua, python or any coding libraries out there for free with games
>meanwhile artists tell everyone to fuck off because muh hardwork when there is nothing that can remotely be used in a final game for free

>>167757632
There are tons of free art of the best quality available online

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Tell me about the last problem you solved using linear algebra

>>167757672
what

>>167758136
distance between points?

How exactly am I supposed to use Delta Time for online games? Do I use the server's DT or the client's? Am I even supposed to use it? Cause different clients will have different FPS running, so I can't exactly make one game slower and one faster right?

>>167757672

Do you make your input-output system or random number generator from scratch? Or do you just add a small include at the top?

>>167757128
>Free textures
>Commercial project

>>167752768
what games have you made in all these years

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I finally finished cleaning up the background.
I'll probably add some stones, grass and other details later, but I really want to stop looking a it for a while right now.

>>167759103
I just want to make a few bucks on steam. not a big project.

>>167757632
>We programmers were idiots for making engines and coding libraries for free

There are programmers out there right now whose sole purpose is to put other programmers out of jobs by making software that no longer requires a programmer's maintenance, or software that programs itself.

However if it makes you feel any better, we're putting other people even faster out of jobs. Programming will probably be the last job to go before we transition into robot utopia/dystopia where machines do everything for us.

>>167759350
>Programming will probably be the last job to go before we transition into robot utopia/dystopia where machines do everything for us
Nope, will be prostitutes. The first and the last job for mankind.

>>167759616
>laying with an std-ridden harlot instead of owning a SuperSucker-9000 sexbot

>>167759767
Fetishes

>>167759350
>do everything for us
But won't all the production only go to the people who own the robots?

>>167759616
nah it's gon be the arts.
specifically the lucrative art of designing emotionally resonant simulated-prostitution services.

>>167759868
Universal Basic Income or bust.

>>167759991
>getting an allowance from mommy government
HAHAHA gogem is a retard socialist why does this not surprise me

>>167760067
bust is a perfectly fine option.
kill and eat the rich. let us eat cake.

>>167760067
>in a society with jobs for < 1 % of the human population we should keep a system designed for a society with jobs for > 99 % of the human population

>>167759303
The girl is too far away from the campfire, the position of her hands don't match with the source of heat, put her sprite in the same x axis as the kid on the right

>>167759991
>>167760134
And who's gonna enforce that? The rich have their robot army here.

>>167760067
This is a thread about gamedev, socialism also doesn't refer to social programs it refers to the workers control of the means of production.

>>167760207
I know, I'll for preview images, but in game it would probably inevitable.

>>167760067
>universal basic income
>socialist
It's a social security program, I know what you're thinking about but it's not UBI. Try again.

>>167760223
the rich will. the rich millennials of silicon valley are the ones pushing it right now because they realize with wealth distribution going the way its going they'll be the ones to inherit the mobs at their mansions sharpening guillotine blades.
baby boomers obviously get away scot free no fucks given like the bandits they are.

>>167759616
Anyone else finds "the oldest job" thingy to be weird? I mean wouldn't "hunter" be older? For someone to prostitute himself, he needs to gain "something", be it protection, food, money etc. Which involves there existing another job before it.

Maybe I'm just autistic, but that's the way I see it.

>>167760509
Nah those hunters were amateurs

>>167760509
>>167760574
Yeah they did it for fun or free time

>>167760509
hunters/gatherer were all freely done for the common good of the tribe.
prostitutes invented economy by ditching socialist survival activities for capitalist secondary activities.

>>167760509
Not really, those guys started hunting to get their own food, because they needed it to live. It wasn't their job.

cave men never existed

>>167760992
/agdg/ - amateur game development general

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>>167753464

There's just too much text on the screen at the same time. You should look at how paradox separates information if you want to do a information filled screen.

>>167760835
It became their job when other people (family,friends,tribe) depended on it.

But yeah I'll stop since I'm not very bright and might very well be wrong.

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PANIC

quick what are some monsters I can put in the first area

Do any of you have any good articles on match 3 design? Any insights of your own?

>>167761389
your mum

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How do I draw.

What sort of rates would I be looking at for a pixel artist?

What about composer?

I always see people talk about doing this and telling people to do it but never any advice on how to find them and how much you're looking at for it.

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>>167761470

Oh fuck the colors are all messed up, I just noticed my monitor was on another setting. Woops, here is fixed.

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puff puff u can combine emotes now

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>>167762270
But what's in the pipe?

>>167762270
Uhm, where's the gameplay?

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>>167762443
thats fucked up bro

How can pixel art be real if pixels aren't real?

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>>167761648
>>167761470
Here I made an improvement.

>love2d
>lua
rofl.........

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>>167762270
Neato!

Artist here, willing to work for free on the right project

>>167762951
What is the right project?

>>167761601
Because defining rates so broadly is impossible.

Depending on your game & your standards, the music will be different genres, have different requirements, different complexities.
There's also the amount of competition in the supply, one can go to any gamedev or /mu/ thread and find electronic/chiptune artists for peanuts, orchestral is harder to come by, vocals even harder.

Just find some artists you like and ask them how much they charge

>>167763021
The opposite of the left project

>>167763021
I'm pretty open, what's your project?

>>167763021
It's always porn. What else would anyone freelance for on /agdg/

>>167762584
its a webgl chatroom basically. There will be some things for people to do tho.

>>167763078
Open how?

A person who specializes in the creation and colorization of visual media here, seeking potential employment with one who creates worlds from mere thought expressed into words and numbers!

Please demonstrate your imaginations of your current visualization!

>>167762270
>Frame by frame 3d animations
Interesting

>>167748616
I can think of ways around that.
Some smart transition between layers.
Other layer visible in the background.
Designing locations so they have clear, common focus points (other than door).
3D Minimap.
And most important, a small scale tutorial.

>>167763119
There needs to be an emote for the wizard drinking from a hip flask, and one where he's doing the "DARE YOU ENTER MY MAGICAL REALM" face

>>167763142
Why don't you just tell me about your project and we can get this thing going

>>167762270
!emote smoke
!emote dab

>>167757335
how are you doing that fire-y effect? I'd love to replace with orange use that for the torches in my game.

>>167763295
It's a large scale shitposting empire meta RPG where people are always connected even when they think they're not.

I am now injecting disinterest into your avatar.

>>167763371
Sounds interesting, contact email?

>>167763295
I want to know about the "right project" first

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>>167748616
The problem wasn't the gameplay or the art, the problem was that your art didn't properly signal your gameplay.
Having a game happen on "2 layers" is an old as shit concept, that everyone understands when it properly shown.

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>tfw don't want to go back to my main game after Comfy Jam
Guys, hold me

>>167763449
Could be a lot of different things. Tell me about yours, I'm sure we can come to some sort of agreement.

>>167763418
oh, sorry, I don't use email. good luck sorry, i dont believe in luck, maybe you can find someone to oh sorry, I don't believe in people, maybe fate will oh sorry, I dont believe in fate, i prefer to make my own destiny that i can oh sorry, I dont care much for destiny, it's just halo but oh sorry, i dont like oh sorry, i dont sorry, i sorry sorry sorry sorry FUCK YOU

When you have a combined mask texture with a different mask on each color channel, is there a standard for which color is roughness, metal etc?

>>167762685

kek

>>167763503
What is your game?

>>167763551
?

>>167763640
Nope.

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Fishing hole is pretty much complete. Time to work on tiles and shit for the top-down area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9McGKrxOnB8

>>167759303
Instead of overusing dithering just add another color. In this case replace darkest dither.

Does anyone have the 3D model of the AGDG logo? I want to put it in my jam game.

>>167759303
the absolute darks need to be darker.
It looks good but needs more contrast.

>>167763360
In that picture I made two objects (one for each color) that spawn from a point (the black thing) with a random angle in a random point near the center that go up and decrease in size (the lighter color decreases in size faster) and once they reach size 0 they get deleted

it's very crude and it fucking tanks performance which is why i'm gonna replace it with particles but it looks okay

>>167763850
>can't make literally one of the simplest 3d models

>>167764029
I can, but why should I?

>>167763994
oh ok, I was wondering why it looked so weird when it moved and I realized it has depth tied to the y.

>>167760418
Except for people like Peter Thiel and a lot of tech libertarians

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Fixed this stupid month long bug last night that would cause the player to collide with itself if the box collider was too small. I can rest easy now

I just can't handle any sort of physics apart from basic acceleration.

Can anyone explain to me how to get Asteroids-like turning without mentioning all this rubbish related to radians? I've looked at multiple examples online but can't understand how they use all this orientation nonsense to somehow affect the velocity through some mathematical black magic.

I can read that they use this to somehow create a normalized direction vector, but I don't understand how this is used to affect the velocity to produce smooth turns.

>>167764191
libertarians dont matter, they can go live on their oil rig community until all the guns and narcissists results in a bloodbath and eventually come back home, fall in line and whine for the rest of their life about flat taxes.

>>167763850
Where can I upload an obj without an account?

I'll do it on pastebin otherwise

Humans can breath salt solution mixt with oxigen. But water wouldn help with walking.

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Cleaned up the extremely gross right click script, made it fully incorporated with the container menu and reduced that portions of the scripts line length by about 30 percent.

>>167764683
uguu.se

>>167764413
give us an mspaint of what you are asking.

>>167764783
https://a.uguu.se/z4FL2Gk82k4y_agdg.obj

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>>167765012
KANSHA!

>>167763820
>>167763929
Will try that later. The only issue adding a darker color would give me is that I would need to add it to the sprites too. Also, keep in mind that the background will get darker as you walk away from the fire.

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Reposting music for feedback one last time.

https://clyp.it/5ou3ygoi

>>167759303
>I really want to stop looking a it for a while right now
How come?

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>>167763171
I'm replying just to let you know that your art of baiting is appreciated.

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>>167764842
I want to understand the physics that go into implementation of Asteroids so that when a player presses left/right turn, the ship moves in a drift like fashion (left), and not as if the ship was anchored around a point (right) which is my current implementation.

>>167748231
There are lots of ways. You can use instancing, indirect draw calls (where the parameters of individual draw calls are on the GPU already), texture sheets or bindless textures, etc.

That said, it's probably not worth trying to cram everything into one draw call. You want to reduce the draw calls without unnecessarily making the driver or GPU work harder anyways, and even more importantly, you want to reduce most state changes, especially texture and shader changes.

>>167763548
What sort of things?

>>167765459
Not sure if I got it, but:
Controls change ship angle directly.
Acceleration is applied based on that angle.

>>167765459
All you have to do is have a velocity that isn't related to the ship's heading. You still apply acceleration in the direction the ship is pointing.

>>167765459
there is no black magic, this is simple vector addition, which is just adding two numbers to two other numbers

>>167765192
I'm not a very good musician, but I can sort of give an opinion
It's good, but the sort of funky rhythm and slides give it a really specific tone to it, like a sort of "cool, edgy" fantasy setting. I dunno if these are the emotions you want to conjure, but if they are it's pretty good. It's also a little repetitive, and I'm not really the biggest fan of the slowdown right before it loops. Maybe you could do like the Cave Story theme does and have some weird funky extra bit after it loops twice? I dunno, that's just like my opinion man

>>167765392
>>167765092
>>167763503
>>167762927
>>167754546
>>167753498
>>167752768

garbage

>>167766101
all me

>>167765980
Unsure about the slowdown myself, but the wife likes that part.
Probably dick around with a different ending at some point, thanks for the feedback!

I have to wonder how many programmers in here wish they had some real art.

And here I am, just creating assets for nothing in particular

>>167766101
Like your game? Oh wait, at east the garbage EXISTS

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>>167765459
in asteroids you can turn without thrusting but you keep your momentum, you just add speed in the direction you are pointing to your current velocity.

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playing with the pipes.

I have to wonder how many artists in here wish they had a real game.

And here I am, just doling out code for dozens of potentially successful, yet artless projects.

>>167766101
>retard doesn't even recognize maid

>>167766268
Creating assets for a game is very different to creating assets with no objective in mind. When you only make the art you want it allows you to skip the parts you don't like, but for a game it will be necessary to push through them. This is where many artists fail

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Do not be rude to cats. Do not break their shit.

>>167766268
Theonian? Is that you?

I always said that artists have it easy, but when I have finally started to collab with some, I had to realize how wrong I was. For some people coding is really just as black magic as drawing for me.

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>tfw you're extremely close to taking a break from your project to make a small match 3 meets Hoplite in a week
help

>>167765243
Just burned out a little.

>>167766424
This is why I would love to find a game to work on, but the meme field is impenetrable

>>167766350
don't forget you can generate a unit vector that points in a given angle with sin and cos

>>167766527
I'm sad to hear that, but, of course, your mental health is more important. Take care.

>>167766759
Don't worry I'll keep working on it tomorrow probably. I don't give up easily.

I took 2 months to rewrite my program from scratch using Unity's AssetDatabase, an MVA framework that I made (mostly to enforce separation between models and views), and standard C# events (to make enforcing UI events more possible). It was quite a journey getting there but now I'm actually coding faster and I understand everything that is happening, even when I run into bugs.
I'm still not sure how it will stack up performance wise, but I made sure to design it so that every instance of an item that shares the same item database id provides access to most of its data fields through a reference to a single POCO through a data access object. That may decrease the overall memory footprint if the number of items in the active scene outnumbers the total number of possible items that can be displayed in that scene, but otherwise will probably increase it. Still I like that the fields are practically immutable, because I make the referenced field readonly.
Feeling pretty good right now...but I'm taking a day off. My mind is exhausted.

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>>167766101
Where the fuck do you think you are?

>>167767576
he's not wrong

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Made the skeleton of a map editor, got projectiles, animations, and collisions to work, Do I make a Tumblr now, wait until I have something to show, or resign to be an anime masturbator?

>>167767969
Yes you are completely wrong

>>167766339
you ok?

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>>167762270
I like what you have there, that shadow effect is great.


Continued with the trees from yesterday, tweaked the settings a bit and I'm mostly ok with them, at least i can make a new tree in like 15 minutes now. Also I imported some old plants I made a while ago.

>>167768815
tumblr when?

>>167766568
One sure way to find a game is to make one

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Sometimes all you need to get past that feeling of discomfort or stress you might get while devving can be solved with a shower.

Remember to stay healthy while devving!

>>167764413
>Not knowing what a radian is
>Wants to do math
Disgusting.
Then again I have used shitty APIs that expect degrees.

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I'm not memeing but how hard is it to create a game by yourself that is on the level of PT if you've had zero experience with coding, creating levels, modeling, animation etc.?

I'm not trying to be presumptuous but am simply curious if it's possible. I've fantasized about creating a horror game but haven't taken the plunge because of reasons listed.

>>167769379
Can't I just take a nap and hope to die in my sleep?

>>167769671
I'd say around 3500 difficulty units.

>>167769721
no!

>>167769721
no, because you'll be disappointed every time you wake up.

>>167769723
It'd say it's more like 200 Googum units

>>167769832
Better than being disappointed now.

>>167769671
You can do it with enough hard work and discipline. but learning multiple skills with a high difficulty can be demotivating. If you aren't willing to spend a year or two dedicated to it then you should just make pong clones and build up your skills that way as a hobby.

>>167770057
xD

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>>167769150
As soon as I have some gameplay.

>>167744554
Yeah post samples

>>167768815
>>167770290
There's a huge disconnect between the quality of the plants and the quality of the trees which are literally blobs with random triangles pasted on them.

>>167770290
id follow just for the art

>>167769671
For something as little and simple as PT I'd say programming and level design would be the easiest parts if you'll be using an engine like Unity or Unreal.
It might take you some days to master the very, very basics of C# to get something moving in Unity or by using Unreal's blueprints. There's shitloads of docs and tutorials for them.
Modeling and animations will take longer. While it's easy to make some windows and walls and doors in Blender, it might be a problem to learn enough anatomy to make just one enemy model that's decent at least. If it's a small-ass project, make the antagonist some spoopy unexisting entity or use a free model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwuPiaFU37w
Alternatively, >>167770117 is also a correct answer.

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Cargo storage is now fully functional. So basically the player launches a bunch of drones at items floating around, the drones grab them and tow them back to the cargo bay and inside of it, where they are stored into inventory.

>>167764721
is this a response to space empire dev?

Not really good artist here, will draw you one sprite of your choice. I'll pick the best among the (You)s I get. Go.

>>167770537
please draw my will to live

>>167770537
How about a big juicy feminine penis?