/fog/ Fallout 4 edition

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>>167716193

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Have you gone on an adventure with your waifu today?

Did you tell her how much you love her, and how happy you are to be with her?

>>167714846
But it does have sex mods.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/68016-crazy6987-sex-animation/

Also anyone who expected to have anything better than this before the game had been out for two years at the minimum, much less expecting anything this soon after SSE became a thing has is only intelligent enough to have managed to have expressed their dumb ass opinion through dumb fucking luck while hitting a keyboard at random.

So are the NCR ever going to rename themselves the NAR or something to include America I stead of just California?

>>167717302
Why would they?

>>167717389
Because if they ever get to the central states or even the east coast it wouldn't make much sense in the entire country being named the New California Republic

>>167717494
You are mistaking the NCR for an effort to recreate the United States , which it really isn't. It's a new country that happened to adopt some old world history to base itself on.

They aren't taking what was once part of other states to reform the union, they're just growing their new country. The USA was only the USA because of a bunch of history shit relating to being colonies and being rather different from one another.

Reasons to ignore 'hurry up and save your son! He's been stolen! Save him now now now now now!' Bonus points for lore reasons that I can work into a roleplay.

Go.

>>167716193

You know whats fucking hilarious?
We might get a real life NCR, California is trying to become a sanctuary state, which basically means it wants independence from America.

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Post your characters!

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anyone know if this is any good?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21853/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout4%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D21853%26preview%3D&pUp=1

>>167718164

>Hitler wow edgy wow am I popular?

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>playing fallout 4
You guys don't actually do that right?

>>167718537
I do actually, but I go back to 3 every now and then

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>>167718621
>not exclusively playing 1, 2 and NV

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>>167718164
r8 my landlord

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>>167718758

>Voluntarily playing NV

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Screen of the day lads. Went for something a little different.

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>>167718859
>being alive
>ever

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>>167718537
>>167718758
>playing any fallout game

>>167718758
>stop liking what me and my friends don't like
Hiveminds only set society back anon, besides NV is shit and fallout 1&2 are far too dated to enjoy.

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>>167719052

>>167719174

FO1 is a very unrewarding experience

FO2 is a good game once you get past the constant avalanche of 90s memes and XDDD SO WACKY! shit

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>Lost two hours of progress because the bottlecap mine I threw while preparing to take on a radscorpion, well away from any enemies, exploded an inch from my face and instantly killed me

Why does Armorsmith Extended delete the clothes of the Diamond City Security?

>>167718123
Make the game actually difficult so that you can justify building up influence and resources first.

If you can just run in to fight Kellog with a 10mm, two stimpacks and some leather armor what's the fucking point in not immediately beelining there?

>>167719825
Also how do I fix it?

>>167716193
So I was reading about load order for FO4 from this page: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10844/?

>This has been attributed to Gambit77 the author of Armorsmith Extended and also one of the two authors of the Armor and
Weapon Keywords Community Resource (AWKCR)

______SHARED RESOURCES
______SETTLEMENT BUILDING MODS esms
__________BUG FIXES
________SETTLEMENT BUILDING MODS
________GAMEPLAY TWEAKS
____FOLLOWER TWEAKS
_____AESTHETIC TWEAKS
______SETTLEMENT TWEAKS
______ ITEM SORTING
______BODY REPLACER
________WEAPONS
________ARMOR - CLOTHING
________CRAFTING
______WEAPON MODDING
____ARMOR - CLOTHING MODDING
Armorsmith Extended.esp
all other what have Armorsmith Extended.esp as master

^Legit or placebo? FO4 is much more forgiving than NV load order-wise but I was curious to know if having the right grouping for certain types of mods makes a difference in how smooth the game runs. LOOT just rearranges my plugins all over the place after ordering dependencies.

>>167720128
You can fix it in FO4Edit by getting the FormID of the uniform by pickpocketing it from the naked guards that won't wear 'em or you can use this http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18638/? if you're lazy like me.

>>167720324
Thanks m8

Anyone have SS of the new texture pack?

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>Curie keeps asking about a romance when she knows I belong to Cait
*autistic screeching*

Piper does this too

Is everyone in the commonwealth an adulterer?

>>167719989

I have it on Survival. Thats the point. I CAN'T do that, but the game expects me to.

In NV the game makes you chase Benny from Goodsprings to The Strip going through towns logically. In F4 you pop out the Vault, get directed to the Minutemen then Mama Murphy just says 'yeah Diamond City see ya'. Then you take a small detour from Diamond to save Nick then its straight to Kellogg. There's no 'I have no clue a, best to explore on my own'.

>>167720324
It's placebo. Don't trust anyone except LOOT

>>167720739
>being monogamous in a post apocalyptic wasteland

>>167721225
I read that in Danny Devito's voice. I never realized I wanted a dog with his voice until now.

>>167721372
See, I heard Seth MacFarlane. I haven't watched Family Guy or any of its bastard children in about 5 years, but there you go.

>>167718129
>Donny essentially starts a real life legion with far more power at its disposal

I GOT SPURS

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>>167718164
>tfw I played NV with a mouse with a middle button that never clicked right, and didn't find out that you could move the camera with it until just last month
Closest thing I have is the outfit I wore during a playthrough last... September according to the filename. Fucking weapon isn't even the EVE version for some reason.

>>167718129
Please tell me that's not true. I don't want to be in this blue state hellhole if that happens.

>>167721372

I heard it in Stephen Russell's voice

>>167721372

Barf from Space Balls.

I haven't seen that movie in years.

>>167722023
Oh its happening, Trump threatened to remove all goverment funding for california if they go through with it. Which means they'll do it to prove a point, and regret it sorely later.

Anyone remember the old rumors surrounding FONV saying there'd be like multiple options for character backgrounds and you could play a prologue for each?

Like in one you're a chinese saboteur raiding hoover dam pre-war and then you're a ghoul in the main game?

>>167722023
>Please tell me that's not true
http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-calexit-organizers-say-they-ve-opened-1482187671-htmlstory.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/6/california-secession-shows-states-rebelliousness/

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-road-map-california-secession-20161224-story.html

I can't wait till you useless fucks are out of the US, and begging us to help you financially

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>>167722565
I keked too hard, help pls

>>167716193
holy shit i wasn't expecting to ACTUALLY find the kind of thread i was looking for

>>167722703
you must be new to /vg/. Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you run back to /v/

>>167722547
No, but I remember how Todd lies about everything, so I believe you

>>167722760
i wonder how much traffic this board gets.
also i don't usually browse many boards, just your usual casual fag that comes in every x amount of time

>>167722565
Damn dirty commies trying to help refugees from war-torn countries all terrorist muzzies i say

>>167720739
polygamy is a thing in the commonwealth.

Also
>liking cait

>>167723180
CA accounts for 20% of the homeless population in the US. Maybe they should fix that first

>>167722361
Isn't California one of the states that gives more money to the government than it receives from it?

>>167723348

Technically. It's hard to calculate the value of things like easy transportation between states and the defense of US military, etc.

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>>167723180
Yeah those poor refugees need help.

>>167723180
>refugees from war-torn countries
Well I'm not them so without appealing to post-christian religious thought (equality/equal value of all human life in the eyes of god) you cannot summon a moral imperative for why we should let them in and I can list many practical imperatives for why we shouldn't... soooo.... Either join a church so we can all laugh at your woooo~y spiritualism or get out of my face.

Is it even possible to choose a specific texture for a mesh in OS without it crashing? I've got some armor that I guess is using the plugin to change the texture used, and even though that texture is listed when I view it in nifskope, it won't fucking display it.

Is there any way to remove things from the level lists?

>>167723478
Which war torn country is that?

>>167723558
Oakland CA

>>167723478
>People are suffering in America so we can't take in any refugees at all

>>167723228
i'd like an aggressive bitch turned decent to be dominated by

>>167719174
Objectively incorrect.

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>>167723661
Group preference is, in a word, evolution. Yes.
Anti-scientific creationism to imply something other than the natural order.

>>167723792
She's an aggressive bitch turned to a clean agressive bitch who won't let you have any fun.

Also dominating and molding the inexperienced and/or innocent Piper and Curie as the sexually experienced older milf turned wasteland badass that is Nora is the objectively best taste.

So I gave a park to a gang I don't want to support in the long run in Nuka World. What happens to it after power play?

>>167724119
I have no real interest in arguing with someone who takes stock in Darwinist values.

>>167724230
If you give any gang less than you give the other gangs that gang revolts and you wipe them out

>>167724230
You'll have to clear it out afterwards and then reassign it i think.

>>167724284
>Darwinist values.
You mean evolution, and science? AKA the real world

>>167724167
well technically nora is the only choice but again that depends on you as a person and not you as nate

>>167724386
Unnecessary cruelty is unnecessary cruelty.

>>167724447
Not taking care of your own people but trying to take care of the rest of the world is unnecessary cruelty

>>167724167
Fuck, that's hot. Shota Piper/Curie mods when?

>>167724284
Yes, most people have no real interest in inevitable and implacable defeat. Superstition always cedes ground to empiricism. But, since this is a fallout thread I'll let you duck out, however the next time you're chuckling at bible-thumpers talking about how dinosaur bones were hidden by satan to test their faith in the 6,000 year old earth... Do so with some self-awareness that there are those who chuckle at YOUR baseless dogmas.

>>167718123
>Absent minded do gooder that feels compelled to walk every old lady across the street and help every cat out of a tree. Enslaved Synths?! Not on your watch! Raiders harrasing farmers?! Not today, ner-do-wells! Crime in Goodneighbor?! Not if the Silver Shroud has anything to say about it! Your son is still your number one priority, but you have to help anyone you can in this crazy, crazy world.

>Your son is gone. But its not so much that you are ignoring the problem as it is you like being angry at something. You have a chip on your shoulder and you like it that way. Fuck your sun, fuck the Institute, fuck the raiders, fuck the Minutecucks. Fuck 'em all. The rules don't apply, so time to apply a bat to someone's skull.

>It's hopeless. You love your kid yeah, but with Nora/Nate gone...what's the point? You loved your partner more than you did your kid. It's a sad fact but there it is. Now...maybe it's time to move on. If you find him you find him, but maybe you need to let yourself love again...

>Just finish the fucking main quest. It takes like...an hour you lazy fuck.

>>167724561
I think you are looking for the word loli.

Also you don't need age and experience gap that extreme for it to be exceptionally good taste.
>>167724418
I'm not sure if I'm just tired, but I can't make sense out of your fucking post.

>>167724976
/ss/>yuri

>>167724976
i could've phrased that so much better but i didn't bother

>>167725018
/ll/ > /ss/

Cus /ss/ is for plebeians.

>>167724670
>Morality and a desire to see that as many people have safe, good lives as possible is baseless superstitious dogma
>tribalism and cold, sociopathic decisionmaking will win out in the end! You know I'm right.

aight

>>167724383
Nice.
>>167724284
I was wondering about AFTER that. Say I gave the Disciples Kiddie Kingdom, they revolt and I dicksmash them.

What then?

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>>167723228
Well I am devoted to Cait. You might say I'm, old fashioned. Literally.

ayyy

>>167723792
The collar's not just for show :^)
She's my Master!

>>167725182
You go to the settlement and kick their butts, then reassign it.

>>167724878

I know the main quest doesn't take long but I don't want to be the guy who shows up in full T-60 to fix a pump at a quarry.

Equally I don't want to be a housewife who bumbles her way into being a Sentinel for the BoS within a week (awake time) of taking out the trash in 2077.

>>167725295
If it's difficulty you want there is a mod that makes the game really hard. I just can't remember the name of it right now

>>167725260
>I am devoted to Cait
Cait isn't real m8

>>167725295
Tell the guy at the Quarry to go fuck himself. You destroyed the Institute, that little prick can go suck off a Deathclaw. You don't have to do EVERY quest, especially when it's in character not to do it.

Admittedly the Housewife thing is a little harder. I just wish they made her a cop, or and EMS, or SOMETHING useful. A fucking Lawyer? Really? At that point the game should have only had a male option, since a soldier in an infantry unit presumably knows how to take care of business.

>>167725295
There is a mod that lets you make Nora a veteran too. Also a mod that lets you skip over the bullshit of being Nate/Nora.

That or just ignore what the game says about you being a lawyer and come up with whatever you want for a backstory. Not like anything but you being pre-war is relevant at all.

>>167725553
My husband is a Ranger, and taught me me lots of survival skills over the years, so it's not that far fetched that Nate would have done that with Nora too

>>167725517
why must you hurt us

>>167725553
>>167725295
One of the biggest things with FO4 is knowing how to pace yourself so you don't blow through all the content.

Another good motivation is that you want to be able to have all the resources in the wasteland at your disposal, you want to rack up as much power before you knock on Hell's Gate as possible. This means, first and foremost, making friends. Minutemen, Brotherhood, Railroad, shoot maybe even the folks up in Farharbor or those Raiders up in Nuka World. From everything you know, the Institute has powers ordering on black magic. You need all the guns you can get.

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>>167725130
To belief that you can apply this to every single group with no cultural or genetic differences is the dogma. You cannot take a syriac musselman or rwandan tribal and plop them in anytown USA and it work out well. This lack of congruity with facts actually leads to you being trapped in an outcome antithetical to your desires. Detroit became filled with africans and is now becoming a little africa.
Slave morality is simply defined as "intention before results", that if you had the best of intentions in throwing somebody into a burning pit then you are good. That if you "coldly" pulled somebody out of the pit without thinking the happyright doubleplusgood things about them that you are evil. (ie: helping somebody you recognise as having genetic propensities to aggression and low intelligence eugenically better themselves)


So long as this is how you calibrate your morality you will accomplish little that is ultimately moral.

>>167725818
>Rangers
>Fags

Figures. What Bat?

>>167725945
2nd, at Lewis right now. Not a fag

So I can't edit my robots or build structures in the workshop.

The Robot workbench settings are all shifted so Torso is in Legs, legs in arms etc and certain selections not even available. The structures tab isn't even available. What mod is causing this? And if none, what can be done?

>>167726062
Tits or gtfo, london, no girls on the Internet, etc etc

>>167726173
I guess our 3 year old daughter was a miracle then

>>167725553
>>167725705

I'm really digging the cop idea. It'd fit the build of my Pistols only. Plus the law degree sees a direct transfer from cop to judge.

I'll justice my way through the game I guess. I suppose I can put off my childsearch for justice. Plus the police had power armor, and I can pick up mods for that too.

>>167725891

This is my issue.

>>167726062
Cool. Planning on going to RASP this summer.

But you bring up a good point. Nora may have some knowledge, but it's a little shakier than the Soldier

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>>167725517
Me (the character that I'm roleplaying) is devoted to Cait!

I didn't know we had to make these distinctions.

Not that irl me wouldn't also be. But yeah, the person pictured is a videogame character anon.

Cait probably wouldn't like irl me though. She's actually hot, and I'm not. Skinny, flat, and pale is a bad combo according to every other lesbian I've met.

C'est la vie though! Back to playing!

>>167725945
Not that anon but there are SOME women on this site. It's not a total sausage-fest. Tho it really depends on the board and how much you trust the few polls that do get done.

4chan culture justs makes any sort of trait beyond being an anon irrelevant unless an anon ounces it for some semblance of ethos for whatever the fuck they're going to post.

>>167726238
Huh. They never did say what Nora was, did they? Only that she had a law degree? It wouldn't be too outrageous for a former Lieutenant or something to pursue a law degree for a career track in the DoJ. Did the cops have PA though?

>>167726421
FBI, CIA, NSA, Secret Service would all hire someone with a JD

>>167726238
What, that you have to pace yourself?

>>167726421
>>167726482
Holy shit Nora could have been a spy

>>167726126
Halp, pls ;_;

>>167726421

I think there's a render of it in one of the art books. Just some surplus T-45 or something. I may use PA for hardcore shit, like Glowing Sea but I'm hoping to endgame as a BoS answer to a Courser. A Judge Dredd/Blade Runner style gunslinger.

>>167726302
So you're a 400lb man irl

>>167726549
DAMN COMMIE SPY

Well my next playthrough is an Infiltrator Nora with ambiguous morality. My first female character in any RPG

>>167726670
There are mods to make her a Chinese spy

>>167726421
>Record found. Driver's License S91328862. Lawyer.

>>167726590
I wish the game let you fuck around with your own body more. I was hoping i could become an Augmented god

>>167725930
>White Man's Burden

yup

>>167726731
But that's only that one robot mission. Easily avoidable

>>167726731
N-NANI

Sauce?

>>167726609
Who knows!

That might be better than what I actually am!

Being straight or a male is lucky!

>>167726793
The mission where you help the robots make their ship fly

>>167726793
http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Lookout%27s_dialogue
Second row.

>>167726238
Personally my favorite backstory for Nora is that she was on the fencing team in college before becoming a corporate goon that was just a lawyer on paper but got up to some shadowrun type shit as her real job.

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has this ever actually happened to anyone?

>>167726915
The game is too easy. Why wouldn't you be able to finish a fight?

>>167726525

Less the pacing, I love reaching Diamond City/Vault 81 having seen some serious shit and being an experienced wastelander cause it plays into the questlines for Classroom Stories/Piper interview. Its more believing that a pretty prewar housewife could handle the first events of the story (killing a Deathclaw, even getting in and handling the PA, killing a human being like a Raider) that gives me issues, not to mention the survival aspect.

I just need a good back story (which I have with the cop roleplay) and a reason to abandon the NOWNOWNOW Shaun search and explore (which I can handle by gathering forces/exploring for clues).

I guess I might be OK. Until Nuka World, but maybe she'll have a psychotic break.

>>167726915
The ellipses convinces me that this a joke, or it's simply leftovers from Skyrim where that was actually possible. Though, as >>167726991 said, I've never had to give up on a fight.

Breh, someone led me astray F4SE hasn't been updated for the most recent patch.

>>167726782
Yeah but that would mean avoiding one of the fun quests.

>>167726991
You never came across super mutants or a protectron at a single digit level before even reaching Abernathy Farm in survival mode? Sure, neither of those examples would back down for any reason, but still.

My roleplay in fallout 4 is that my character was actually a synth copy of the sole survivor, who died in the vault but had her memories duplicated and placed in a synth in an off-site lab, but something went wrong and the synth developed its own personality while retaining Nora's memories. So while it had its own life and goals to achieve, it also had this nagging other half that demanded it try and put old ghosts to rest and find Nora's son.

>>167726884
I mean, it's a thing in oblivion and Skyrim so it's probably a thing in FO4, you either holster or block while holding a certain button depending on the game to "yield" and they might be like "okay fine, retard"

It's hardly a thing in FO4 because there are hardly any points where you may need to start a fight with someone who isn't already hostile.

>>167726845
>>167726848
Only played as a male.

Neat

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>>167727112
>F4SE hasn't been updated for the most recent patch.
k

>>167727041
Are you kidding? Have her go open season, man.

>>167726731
Great, even less opportunity to role play.

>look up problem online
>only other posts about it are people with massive load orders

Does Mod Organizer work for Fallout 4 and if not, what should I use instead?

What do caged animals do to a settlement? Does it mean I can have a friendly deathclaw that protects settlers from attacks?

>>167727720
MO 2, but it's buggy. If you don't like it use NMM

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>>167726761
>White Man's Burden
I actually don't disagree! So long as we don't get bogged down in falsehoods that say we owe something to anybody because sky daddy reasons.

If you thought I was suggesting we destroy all other groups or that our visible strengths had some cruel implication then I guess that is your own preconceived biases at work. We can choose what to do either way. But the only way we would be successful is to be honest about the state of things, the fat man who never believes himself fat will never diet and exercise and will never cease to be fat. To not recognise that there is a "best-practice arab-muslim society" that will look wholly different than "best-practice secular northwestern european society" will lead to greater suffering for all groups involved. The nation is a unit of people, the nation-state is derived from that group. When you reject nationalism and natural biological differences you cannot enact these best-practices for each people but instead enact an (at best) mediocre practice for all people.

So then, the master morality is simply to work with other groups where they live (and have evolved to live and are most happy living) to deal with the causes of their suffering. To expand civilisation outwards and not to import other social-racial grounds with other and often countrary needs that one constitution cannot possibly cater to. In other words, NOT refugees.

>>167727697
Or worse
"What is LOOT?"
or
"Oh wait never mind I forgot to check the .esp/apply archive invalidation"

>>167727112
Yea it is. I just updated it today.

>>167727779
>MO 2, but it's buggy

buggy how? I can handle a bit of bug depending on what it is.

>>167724119
are you trying to imply humans haven't evolved past basic animalistic instincts? we're higher beings with empathy, we should be trying to help other countries as well as our own.

>>167727823
Sometimes it will crash when using wyrebash, fo4edit, bodyslide. Sometimes it deactivates all your mods but doesn't tell you until you load a save. Built in LOOT does not work you need to get the program. Nothing game breaking

>>167727947
Oh that's not too bad then, I can work with it.

>>167727573
http://f4se.silverlock.org/ Just tried a download from here lad.

>>167727840
-> >>167727781
I AM implying we have not evolved outside of the material universe and the laws that govern it. Yes.

Even for what you wish to accomplish refugees are not the way to do it. We are not interchangeable gears (one race, the human race) and no amount of "empathy" will change that. We can help, but not in the way that is currently being suggested by the mainstream left.

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>>167727947
>>167727823
>>167727979

oh and the default save location is in hidden system files so you have to change that. It's not that bad at all

>>167727987
k

>>167728096
All right. One thing though, I can't seem to actually find M.O. 2.0 anywhere.

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Is there ever a point where you see the guns the army is using here?

>>167728162
Mod Organizer 2. It's literally the first result

>>167728176
They are laser rifles...

Friendly reminder that the only saving grace of FO4 is the gunplay which Bethesda made id do

>>167727573
>input event hook
>papyrus API

Isn't this what SexTech has been waiting for?

>>167728162
https://github.com/TanninOne/modorganizer/releases

>>167728248
>>167728557
all right, thanks, I was just dumb I guess.

>>167728176
>>167728353

Fallout needs more fucking laser and plasma weapons. Ballistic weapons were a mistake.

>>167728383
I actually like the settlements and hope that mods expand on them.

>>167728692
I wish they made fewer settlements but expanded them so that they could be much larger.

Instead of having 10 settlements, I'd rather just have the castle but make it a giant Castle Town

>>167728383

Meanwhile FNV has ____black jack mini game____

>>167728692
>hope that mods expand on them
when was the last time you checked the nexus? Tons of mods expand on them and add new ones

>>167728828
Well I mean I've seen a lot of them that let you build new places and add new objects, but I haven't seen any that meaningfully improve gameplay with them. For example.

>Be able to recruit settlers as expendable redshirt followers
>conduct diplomacy and trade with other factions.
>random settlement events that can impact stuff like food supplies or happiness and can be fixed by going on miniquests.

Or more out there stuff like

>AI will claim settlement areas over time if you don't, and form feuding communities that will fight with you and each other.

>>167729027
That will take years, but there is one or two that improve settlement AI, and lets you recruit random settlers

>>167729114
Which ones would those be? I have only just got back into fallout 4 after like half a year.

>>167729027
this isn't a CIV game m8

How is the new hi-res texture pack for FO4?

Shit?

>>167729195
>Implying my toaster can run that

near 60GB isn't worth it for some fancy textures anyway.

>>167729195
Shit. 20gb of repeat data, barely any improvement.

>>167729173
Not with that attitude. Look at what Skyrim did with AI warfare.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75200

"You can now wage war across Skyrim for control of territories. Skyrim is logically divided into an array of over 60 randomly generated zones.
An army’s total soldier count is divided among the zones they occupy along with a portion of the army’s wealth in gold.
Each territory occupied generates gold for the army, which can be used to raise more soldiers.
The more zones you hold, the more gold is generated overtime.

Whether you engage in the fight or not, it will go on in the background. Territories will be won and lost across Skyrim.
Depending on who holds the territory you are in, you will see different armies paroling the lands and settlements."

>>167729257
what do you mean repeat data?

>>167729243
>>167729257
>butt hurt fags playing on toasters

>>167729195
It's good, but vram heavy. If you don't have 8gbs don't bother

>>167717302
I'd be surprised if the NCR really went farther out than the Mojave. As of the events of FO:NV, the NCR is overextended as fuck, and if they don't wind up controlling the Mojave they are gonna be fucked without the water and power. Economic, social, and political issues are right on the horizon for them.

>>167718123
I haven't played too much FO4 as I don't own it (played it at a friends while housesitting), but for me the only thing was when Nate/Nora leave at first to go find Shaun, especially at Concord, they realize how fucked the world is and realize they need to poke around, help the few non-hostile people out before being in the right state to find Shaun. Also to some extent, rebuilding Sanctuary Hills would be a way for Nate/Nora to not only bridge their old life, but they would feel it is a way to remake an ideal (as possible) place for their child once more.

>>167729356
>just got a new 6gb 1060

JUST

>>167729304
first release 5 years after Skyrim came out....

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>>167729457
>6gb 1060

>>167729458
L-let me dream

Now that the idea exists it might take less time for other people to make something similar.

>>167729356
It's objectively shit even for those of us who can run it at 60+fps. The community has already made better.

>>167729335
I mean >>167694328
Look for yourself: https://imgur.com/gallery/G7iMv

>>167729619
thanks m8
>>167729515
what?

>>167729582
FO4 is harder to mod. It's one reason why F4SE isn't as far along as it should be.

>>167729704
you wasted your money

>>167723661
Sort your own shit out first before you sort others out mate.

>>167729727
>you wasted your money

everything I want to play runs great, so no, I didn't

>>167729794
Not that anon, but you bought a 1060, so yes you did. The 1060 is not an upgrade unless you were running a 960 or worse card

>>167729727
>FO4 is harder to mod.
I've heard people say this, but what does it mean exactly? Is it not a bethesda game with .esps and creation kit and papyrus?

>>167729897
>unless you were running a 960 or worse card

try a 560 ti 448

i don't have a shit ton to spend on a card, and it was a good deal

>>167729991
There's a lot more shit within a single reference. Then there's other misc shit like being unable to have any number of dialogue options other than 4.

On the other hand, I can actually load cells in the CK. The one time that happened with the GECK it crashed 30 seconds later.

>>167729991
Running the mods are the same. Textures, and outfits, weapons are the same. But getting events and AI to change and reverse engineering to make this possible, which is what the silverclock crew does, is extremely more complex than it has ever been.

>>167729757
I feel as though we should still attempt to do both.

though it'd be a lot less fucked if it weren't California attempting to carry the entire load

>>167730219
>But getting events and AI to change and reverse engineering to make this possible, which is what the silverclock crew does, is extremely more complex than it has ever been.
More complex in a good way (more possibilities but more intricacy)? Or more complex in a bethesda breaks everything for no reason way?

>>167730124
>There's a lot more shit within a single reference.
Can I get this spelled out in idiot-english? Is it more flexible but has more moving parts? Or just more complicated? I don't know offhand what that means.

>Then there's other misc shit like being unable to have any number of dialogue options other than 4.
How the fuck can they hardcode something so basic? Dammit todd.

>>167729114
>>167729157
S-srsly does anyone know which settlement mod lets me recruit my settlers?

>>167730440
>More complex in a good way (more possibilities but more intricacy)? Or more complex in a bethesda breaks everything for no reason way?
Nothing is broken, but getting things to work has been much harder. It's a new engine so it's going to take time to get more complex things to work. Now that silverclock is updating again things will get better.

>>167730721
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/searchresults/?src_cat=22

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/searchresults/?src_cat=48

I don't know but it would be under one of these categories. Just look for it

>>167731115
All right I'll start looking then.

>>167729619
>https://imgur.com/gallery/G7iMv
What the fuck i can't see any different

>>167730894
Yeah I guess what I'm asking is do we gain something for getting things to work being harder?
Is there some theoretical benefit to it being harder, like more ability to do things that couldnt be done before?
Or... is it just harder because bethesda?

Digging an irrigation ditch is harder than carrying a bucket of water but allows you to do other things with your time overall, for instance.

>>167731212
Creation Engine is a brand new engine created for FO4. It has some things that are only slightly different than the old gamebyro, but there are a lot of big differences. We don't know what we will be able to do with it yet. It's like speaking only American English for 30 years then having to learn a brand new version of English where some words mean the same thing, but saying Hello is like saying nigger

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>>167731618
>saying Hello is like saying nigger

>>167731115
So far I have found a mod that creates like 30 generic settler followers, but nothing that just lets me command the settler NPCs themselves. Did a very good job of raising my hopes and then completely obliterating them by having the gall to name itself "recruitable settlers."

>tfw no plasmacaster

>>167732863

I'd cast Maxson's plasma if you know what I mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70YAqJ8sS40

FO4 should've been set Pre-War, or immediately after (as in FROST)

Bethesda needs to stop advancing the timeline

>>167735049
I'm hoping they continue the Planet of the Apes reference with COA and have them reset the timeline and we get post apocalypse set 20yrs after the war.

>>167735049
>recorded lines
>cut content
God damn it, why.

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>tfw nothing that changes all pipe weapons to some ridiculous mall ninja tacticool varmint rifle that was a pre-war fad

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>Tfw no mod that properly portrays factionless power armor uses as roaming knights errant or lord-protectors of villages.

Seriously how did they not see this angle? Power armor is basically the full plate of the post-modern world. You could pull off all sorts of parallels to knightly quests, coats of arms, and chivalry and shit with it. Pic fucking related.

>>167736665
because everyone is either awful, can find / fix PA, or gets ganked by people who want the PA or hate the sort who uses PA.

>>167736834
Well I mean yeah it won't be the same kind of chivalry that actual knights have but my point is I feel more could have been done with exploring the concept of independent power armor users. So long as they can hold on to it, they're basically supermen, so they'd accrue all kinds of reputations and drama and all that jazz.

>explosive assault rifle, explosive auto 10mm, ripper
>Power Armor

we literally just space marine now

>>167735049
>>167735280
I'm assuming they cut it because it gives too much of a backstory to the protagonists.

>>167737035
They already gave them more backstory than they should have, is the thing. Either go all out or don't be doing it

>>167737035
>>167735049
This makes me wonder if there's any left over dialog for synth Nora or synth Nate.

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>>167737421

I extracted the sound files and listened to a ton of it one day, there wasn't really anything like that

I heard that a ton of voiced lines got cut in a patch soon after the game's release, but I dunno why they'd remove them.

>>167737220
Exactly, it seems they just didn't know what to pick betyween the two options after spending so much time doing "build your own backstory" style RPGs

>>167727947
>Built in LOOT does not work you need to get the program.

I just ran the built-in LOOT for MO 2.0.7 and it worked fine, no crashes or anything.

in new vegas FOOK do the acid-blood grenades need a specific recipe to be craftable?

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>>167718123

The Glowing Sea, duh. Just because your Pip-boy magically knows where to go doesn't mean finding Vergil would be easy. Sure, we know to go to the most brightly glowing point, talk to the Children of Atom, and get directed to his cave, but... what?

I mean, you have no indication that the massive glowing crater is anything you should even try and go near. And without the magic waypoint, you are looking for a single cave (with a Deathclaw outside, that might make you miss said cave by avoiding it) in a vast, ruined, highly radioactive hellhole. You can always temporarily leave in failure. The CoE can be how you find him later.

And really, you won't be that powerful or well equipped if you 'rush' the MQ. Leave behind the rusted, half ruined, power armor and go it in your vault suit and with a pipe gun. It's actually pretty rough going. By the time you hit the Institute you will be pretty skilled, likely with a better gun and gear, but you aren't God-Emperor or the Wasteland yet. You can nope out, and do whatever after getting access to the 'tute.

The biggest, though, is already in the dialog with Nick. The SS knows time has passed, just not how much, and that their kid is likely long gone. It isn't til you hear about Kellog that it becomes urgent again. Just take your time going to Diamond City. After all, a strange addict was your source, so not exactly sound reason to rush there.

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Should I play FROST with a companion?

>>167742857
Is there a mod that makes it so Followers require food and water, or take on rads? If so, then sure, as long as you can afford to feed them.

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>>167718164

So I am finding Fallout 4 boring, and hard to play due to it, so I was thinking of adding some mods to make it more enjoyable.
Usually I don't do mods for first playthroughs (besides ones that make the game better) but this is an exception, its that boring for me.
I currently have installed the better dialogue option mods and the No Collision Settlement building mod (it's so there won't be a gap between stacked walls.)

Got any suggestions? Was thinking of durability like from NV, I am into that sorta thing.
I was looking into this one specifically, is it any good?

nexusmods com/fallout4/mods/17156/?

>>167743296

Get Endless Warfare

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post ur're new MC waifus : ^ )

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>tfw you don't want to waste ammo

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>>167743736
Wait until you can see the white's of their eyes!

>need food and clean water
>find flamethrower
It's amazing how far you can get without the necessities of life as long as you have the little luxuries.

ok I'm not sure what's going on but I can't get out of the cryogenic pod after kornflakes murdering husbando

tried restarting the game

pls help

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>>167744982

Try an alternate start mod

>>167744982

Wait 60 years.

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Getting back to NV.
(Because F4, just lets me shoot shit, instead of finding other options)

Planning to make a pistol guy. Middle aged man.
A retired Mojave ranger medic. He became a sheriff of a small town, after gambling away his money at the casinos and drank away his job as a sheriff, but who later became a courier to ease his money troubles.

Being a formerly somewhat corrupt sheriff, he doesnt shut down morally suspicious options, if caps are involved.

Luck special will be low, couldnt have otherwise gambled away caps.
Above avarage perception and agility.
avarage strenght, and slightly above avarage endurance.

Bartering and talking are good ways to solve problems, before the revolver of his, named Problem, starts talking.
Because of his earlier career, he is also proficient in first aid, as well as basic explosives.
__________________________________

And this is why I like NV alot better than Fallout 4. The story doesnt compromise my own storyline for the character. There are numerous ways to approach a solution, instead of just shooting at it.

And I dont need to find my son in a "hurry"

>>167745123

>And I dont need to find my son in a "hurry"

NV autists everyone

>Fallout 1 = Saints Row 1
>Fallout 2 = Saints Row 2
>Fallout 3 = Saints Row 3
>Fallout 4 = Saints Row 4

But what is Fallout New Vegas

>>167745208
and you must be the sort of autist who thinks quotation marks are for emphasis

>>167745071
The greatest immersion mod of all. All it needs is a wait timer counting down 1,892,160,000 seconds.

>You awaken still tired

>>167745491
Are you, or are you not >>167720748

>>167745064
there should be an alternate start mod where you wake up in the pod next door, tragically mute due to the unreliable nature of cryogenics, think "oh shit, someone shot Nate from down the road in the head at some point. What the hell?" and then leave to go on your wasteland adventures.

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>>167743736
I'm playing Horizon instead of Frost but I've taken to carrying a rifle for humans, a shotgun for mutants that skit around a lot, and a melee weapon for easily one shottable enemies

>>167745630

There's plenty of alternate start mods. The biggest issue with FO4 isn't the muh babby main quest, but the fact that 3/4 of the game's factions are tied to it

why are legendary armor mods so shit?

>>167745734

>Bladed baseball bat

that's foqin sick shit m8

>>167726915
i remember in fallout 3 when you shot people inside ship city you could put your guns away and they'll be like "lol you get one more chance". maybe its the same for settlements in this game?

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anyone know anymore good new vegas bikini/skimpy clothing mods for the type3 body?

>>167745776

Stat bonuses and martyrs are good

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>>167745628
Nope

>>167745378
Saints Row 4 is objectively a much better game than Saints Row 3, and Gat Out of Hell takes what made 4 fun and does it even better, so I guess that's New Vegas even though the same doesn't apply.

>>167745208
>implying you're not just a Beth apologist

>>167745734
I have Horizon downloaded but not installed. I'm enjoying what Frost has to offer, but I honestly kind of want a bit more vanilla Fallout lunacy instead The Road. How does Horizon compare?

Can I have my immersive, dangerous survival AND Stomp around in power armor with a super sledge?

>>167747364
Horizon is harder than Frost t b h just because you can't heal normally, you need a doctor or medical items both of which are very expensive. But yes you can.

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Can I use the console to remove Talia from faction Covenant she is in and add her to faction Minutemen?

Right now I can't go back to Covenant because I don't want to kill her and the area turns hostile after their quest.

>>167749592
just fucking kill her already, and rape the corpse

>>167750058
>rape the corpse

Whoa there edgelord, that's a waste of perfectly good meat.

>>167749592
You can kill her and still use her body.
Just adjust corpse despawn timer (here is a mod for that)

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>>167750058
She's obviously just caught up in all this based on her journal and the dossier on her in the locked house, plus she's nice.

If npc's just sandbox or something lame if you change their faction then I'll just continue avoiding going back to Covenant.

I'd rather exile myself in the wasteland and let her live her life than have to fight her.
I'll watch over Covenant and make sure they're safe from raiders and mutants, but I can never show my face there or they'll kill me. The silent guardian, shunned.

>>167750275
Gay

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Making a new character for Horizon. Kind of wanted to have some kind of dirt or grime going on, but I when I go full Raider Warpaint it feels like too much.

Show me your war face, /fog/. Show me your grime-fu.

>>167718129
To bad seceding from the union is generally considered blatantly illegal, and if some form of military action wasn't taken, they'd be slapped with so many sanctions on them, that they'd effectively be isolated.

Fuck though that might be better for everyone.

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>My Midna rig is over a year old now

God I feel old and nostalgic all of a sudden ;_;

2016 just seemed to fly by

>>167752295
Remember when these threads moved at a brisk pace and had thought provoking discussions?

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Why are my textures messing up?

>>167726362
Everyone is a male until proven otherwise on the internet.

But yeah there's a few women here and there. Not that it matters we're all faceless banter bots when it comes down to it. Except shitty trips.

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>>167752907

That's usually the sign of a dying video card. My condolences.

>>167752791

Eh I guess, but /fog/ used to move fast when people were fighting.

>>167726421
>Did the cops have PA

Doubtful, I mean martial law was pretty close to effect which is why so much PA is around. Maybe some PD's had PA, but I doubt it, mostly seemed to be national guard/army deploying it as riot suppression.

>>167752907
your GPU is dying you should buy a new one
Might as well preorder Skyrim for Switch.

>>167752907
amd or your card is dying

>>167754209

Amd

It's a driver problem?

>>167754246
I've got the same problem and I'm also using a AMD video card.

>>167728775

So many dank settlement spots and they fill the map with a dozen generic farms. Like Boston Commons was such an obvious spot that I'm almost sure it's undiscovered cut content

Old Gullet Sinkhole would've been really cool too, or the canal lock near Oberland, maybe that one town on the cliffside to the west

>>167754246
Bethesda didn't and probably won't ever fix their shit for AMD cards, your card is most likely fine

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What?

>>167754246
>>167752907
Your card isn't dying, I had a similar problem inside the Corvega factory. Restarting the game should fix it.

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how the fuck is this allowed but I can't upload a screenshot of a shitty titanfall port without getting banned?

>>167755472
High definition smudge.

I mean if I recall corredtly, the HD texture-pack they did for Skyrim was pretty shitty too, did anyone expect anything else?

Anyone else just not bothering with Super Mutant areas in F4?

The muties are so fucking boring to fight against and the loot is always crap.

>>167745123
>he is incapable of modding fallout 4
>he is incapable of installing Start Me Up and Tales from the Commonwealth.

You should just kill yourself t b h

>>167759118
get good hahahahaha

>>167752295
i must have missed but how come you got rid of yo trip

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>>167759421

I'm probably not going to post as much as I used to

I might make a comment here or there, but I'm pretty bored with this game. I might make more stuff if there's another game on the way for FO using the same engine.

>>167759751
nah i completely understand
i think most people are, its just a struggle to keep the general alive sadly

>>167760439
Blame new vegas shitters, and blame LoversLab for being lazy

>>167760824
(You)

>>167760439
I think bethesdas main mistake was that they made the game the PC edition of Fallout Shelter... They focused so much on settlements and power armor whereas before they would round out everything to a mediocre degree. Like in skyrim everything is acceptable but nothing is good... in FO4 everything is terrible but gunplay and settlements, gunplay being given to id.

So basically if you want to make anything that isn't a settlement addon you're facing this herculean task of building something virtually from the ground up, whereas in earlier games you were just tweaking what was already there.

>>167760824

>Blame New Vegas

Fallout 4 doesn't allow roleplaying, you can't keep a thread alive talking about an experience everyone else is having.

>>167760936
>Like in skyrim everything is acceptable but nothing is good

The music is

>>167760952
>doesn't allow roleplaying
No you're just severely autistic. There are mods to improve the rpg system but you act like they don't exist.

>>167760952
This kind of ties into my point.. >>167760936
To allow replayability and roleplaying one would have to crack open the quests and allow paths and put in minor factions and the like a la NV... But since beth only made the "muh baby, go go go saev babby!" with a scant few extra sidequests you would quite literally have to start rewriting the entire story from the ground up with "dey tuk muh babby" as just one co-equal element of many. If people could actually replay the game they might be inclined to start tweaking things and making it better for their next playthroughs.

It's this kind of self-perpetuating cycle of nobody is having fun so nobody wants to mod so that other people can have fun. In skyrim people were having fun, uninspired fun, but fun... so they had this energy build on itself. A quest tweak here, a perk mod there, a crafting tweak there... Little tweaks that lead to massive projects and there was always something going on.

We're not having fun so the thought of doing a huge overhaul like what I said to the story is exhausting and since nobody cares and nobody is having fun nobody wants to do it. Y'know?

>>167761332
Nothing can improve the RPG system of F4 without a total overhaul of the game.

>>167762318
This, the problem isn't skill builds part of rpg we're talking to actual role playing enabled by the world and quests. Like quests in NV where there can be 5 different solutions to the same problem spread over a few locations, but in FO4 there is one location and maybe two ways to complete it that just change how you go down the one corridor.

It would be a major overhaul that nobody feels like doing. Why make an entirely new game to mod, when we can just wait for the next FO?

>>167762667
>when we can just wait for the next FO?
>waiting 10 years

So, I really like the pipe revolver rifle. What's a good mod to make it not suck?

>>167762753
For those of us who mod we have SSE in the meanwhiles... Besides there are rumours of a new obsidian fallout either new orleans or NV2: electric boogaloo.

Are you saying you WANT to literally rebuilt FO4's world, factions and quests just so people can mod the remake? I mean, it would be the infusion of fresh air the community needs to get over the hump of the s tory being bad, the world being bland and there being few minor factions with little content... but you're suggesting one hell of an undertaking. Seems much simplier to just pack it in and call this one a loss. The base thing isn't really that good so why break ones back to dredge it from the swampy sewagey depths which it resides? I'm not even that much of a fan of the location, nora is a qt but that sure aint worth thousands of hours of work.

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>>167762948
Weapon Balance Overhaul if you don't mind/want to buff all the other shit guns too

>>167763236

I don't really want to affect any other guns, just the pipe revolver. Nexus has a few mods that affect just it, I wanted to see if anyone else here had tried them out and what their experiences with them were.

>>167762948
Find one with a good legendary attribute. Found an explosive version once. Pretty gud.

Almost done my pipegun replacement mod.

Need to properly integrate 9mm ammo first.

This is what I hate about leveled list integration... you have to start a new game for changes to be seen

>>167765169
Pipegun replacement mod?

>>167754209
>>167754357
>>167754919
>>167756504
Stop it! His card is dying there is nothing wrong with this gameeeee REEEEEEEEE

>>167766208
Yes I'm replacing all ingame pipeguns via leveled lists, for those tired of seeing pipeguns everywhere.

Pipe Pistol/Auto/Revolver = 9mm/9mm Auto/44 Revolver
Pipe Rifle/Bolt/Auto/Revolver = Hunting rifle/Hunting Rifle/Handmade Rifle/Hunting Rifle

The pipe weapons are still in game, but no NPC's will be carrying them anymore. Everyone that was carrying a pipe pistol etc, will be carrying a 9mm 1941 Colt.

>>167766596
Doing God's work

>>167766684
Basically goddammit, someone has to..

>>167766596
Thank fucking christ.

Pipe weapons were a near concept but there's far too fucking many of them for my tastes, especially since they're all the fucking same three things basically

On another note, I'm thinking about doing a Raider run to finally take advantage of Nuka World, (and because I'm bored) and was wondering what sort of build should I do I'm leaning towards Melee, but I don't know. (Previous was a pretty basic run and gun power armor heavy build, and a stealth archer I dick around in survival with)

Also what faction should I go for, leaning towards institute if only because I haven't done it yet.

>>167768472
Heavy Sniper, I wouldn't consider melee viable in nuka world period. Its more of a novelty.

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>>167752907
If you've got AMD, its a long, long time bug with drivers. Go to desktop, right click, AMD Radeon settings (you better damn well have Crimson and not the old CatContCentre drivers), click the gaming tab then click the three dots next to Fallout 4 and remove profile.
Restart the game after this and it should work.
Hell, even without doing all that, restarting the game will fix it anyway.

If you've got Nvidia, your card is fucked.

>>167769416
Huh, different anon but thanks, that was happening to me as well. Didn't know what was causing it but I just ignored it cause it would go away whenever I'd restart the game or load up a different save.

Didn't even realize the AMD profile for FO4 was on.

>>167769805
Yup. I think it'll produce another profile, but that was a legit answer given by AMD if I remember correctly, so I'm assuming the second profile they make for it shouldn't have that issue (somehow?).
That or it doesn't make another profile.
I don't know exactly, but that's what I remember being told to do.

>>167769954
Not sure. I'll keep an eye on it. Normally I have those turned off by default because AMD handles game settings poorly and I prefer to do it manually.

>>167769092
Heavy sniper? Like focus on using heavy weapons from a distance, or Gauss rifles/.50?

Another idea I had, since I have a mod that lets me make more ammo for it pretty easy, is a Cryolator build, using it and the cryo mines and nades as the main thing, maybe energy weapons as a whole besides (or maybe heavy and explosives and go mad bomber), mad science gone wrong, and then forming a raider kingdom. High charisma to use the intimidate shit since I've never done that, maybe it's be a bit gimmicky but seems like it could be fun, I've heard running the perks to pacify enemies can be kinda fun.

Is there any nicemod that changes survival difficulty? I hate adrenaline :/

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>>167743570

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>>167751956
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14893/

>>167771565
yep!

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14650/

>>167726549
That has been my headcanon since day one. I became so ingrained in it that I forgot that it's never explicitly stated.

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>>167743570

>>167772519
Oh nice !
I was already using a mod to disable the save to sleep mechanic, since i was found it weird that my character had to abandon his quest to sleep( even though he was not tired), but i didn't want the adrenaline, because with their save mechanic off, i found it kind of a cheat.

>>167771565
I really like Horizon myself, makes the game a lot more strategic and slower paced without going full on FROST either. (FROST is a mod which removes the base game in a sense, and remakes things into a Metro 2033 style game. Horizon merely changes mechanics, difficulty, settlements stuff and healing.)

>>167773780
Forgot link:
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/17374/

>>167773849
I cant use Valdacil's sorting mod with this, right?

>>167775230
Unfortunately not, though it does have its own sorting, so its not entirely bad.

>>167770649
Pretty much, melee or mid range isn't that effective. I'd keep 4 weapons handy, tesla rifle, sniper rifle, and shotgun. Tesla for robots and mirelurks, sniper for sniping gatorclaws, and shotgun for worms.

>>167763141
> Fallout: NOLA
That would be good as fuck desu. I've been waiting for one in the South forever (DC Metro and Maryland are not South). Hopefully they don't go full retard like with Point Lookout, and NOLA has a lot of interesting history and culture to dig into.

pls no settlements

>>167769092
>>167775527

>melee isn't the best fighting style in FO4

what is this meme?

>>167776725

>pls no settlements

Why would you want to take the best thing about FO4 out of FO4?

>>167776993
To replace it with things that aren't tedious bullshit. I bought a Fallout game because I wanted to play Fallout, not because I wanted to play the Sims.

You're right though. Unvoiced protagonist and less shitty dialogue options are more important.

>>167776882
Not unless you beef out endurance perks it isn't, because you'll be swiss cheese before you can even get close to most enemies.

How could settlements be improved to enrich the game instead of feeling tedious/mediocre? What needs to happen, even if we're waiting on the script manipulation to do so?

>>167777969
blitz and stealth are your friends.

>>167761332
Having mods on your game isn't an excuse for it being shit.

Does anybody have some recommended texture pack mods for fo4 that AREN'T shit and that don't break the artstyle of the game?

>>167776882
its trash against anything bigger than a dog unless you crutch with vats

>>167755472
That's not what the textures actually look like, it's just some stupid bug that every one of Beth's open-world rpg's have had since Fo3.

>>167777239
Guess what; you're not forced to play with them.
Yes they're heavily incentivised, but you AREN'T forced to do anything with them!
>B-b-but muh quest that requires I use the settlement function read as: teleporter
Big fucking boo hoo. It makes you use the feature for all of what, five minutes?
>B-b-but I had to go and get those materials!
If you'd chosen to build up settlements, you'd have had them on hand.
Alternatively, how is it any different to any other fetch quest?
Besides, the BoS literally provide you with the majority of the materials required and Sanctuary has most of the materials required too.
>BUT THAT'S FORCING ME TO USE SETTLEMENTS
No, it is NOT forcing you to use settlements, its making you use the settlement function for a single task.
You are not required to delve into settlements at all.

While heavy handed, its entirely optional and a large amount of people love the feature. A large amount of people have wanted the feature ever since Fallout 3 (myself included).
Fallout has and always will be all about rebuilding the Wastelands of America. The settlement feature is just an extension of that.
The fact that its of a "minecraft" nature is just mere logic of allowing people to do things how they so desire.

>>167779757
> being this butthurt
I don't like them because they took time and effort away from the main game that could have gone towards making things less shit. Fallout: Settlements should have been a different game. The main series are RPGS, not shantytown simulators.

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>>167779285
the style of the game is already shit and deserves to be changed

Entire Vivid Fallout line, Seasons of your choice, Lush Landscape if Fall/Winter themed, any pipe weapon retexture, Rust in peace, Valius texture pack

>>167779757
Doesn't change the fact they spent an immense amount of time on Settlement development at the expense of other features, and even more in the DLC. If you ignore the settlements you're getting an even shallower game than you would otherwise. It's tantamount to buying an RPG and complaining about the dialogue. Haha.

>>167780078
Those shantytowns add to the RP though.
Yeah, they absolutely could've and should've been done better, but they do add to RP.

>>167780132
But the effort they spent on that could have been spent on tons of things, just one example being minor factions, which would be far more immersive than building an electric windmill out of some toasters, while adding more roleplay options and fleshing out the shit story.

>>167780090
>the style of the game is already shit and deserves to be changed
I'd really rather not have edgy sharpened and rusty as fuck dull textures. If I want to play a boring colorless game I'd play Fallout 3

>>167780132
>Yeah, they absolutely could've and should've been done better
They sure fucking could have. Enemies spawning inside the walls, overcoming any defense if you don't fast travel home. Despite converting raw materials into new structures, everything looks like amateur slapped together rubble from 50 years ago. The economy goes to shit the moment you get a couple purifiers up. And you, without any experience or assistance, are an engineering mastermind.

I really won't forgive them just because mods tried to fix half these issues a year later. They didn't care about the RP value, they cared about cashing in on that Minecraft mentality.

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>>167780875
I mean
Look at pic related with a straight face and tell me it looks better than the original Pip Boy

>>167781158
At least the knobs are on the correct side.

>>167743736
I save bullets for mutants.
Most of the combat can be done with the intimidation perk if you target the right person. I once intimidated a guy with a flamethrower and he just wasted about 20 other guys, it was amazing. Too bad it does not give any XP from those kills.

>Pleasantly surprised that jsawyer removes the karma penalties from 'stealing' from powder gangers
>try to pick up some stuff from (dead) legion slavers)
>u losse karma

fuck you nigga i already killed them that's a few rungs worse

I feel like the only thing that should really incur karma loss is
>stealing from neutrals/positive reps
>killing people that could reasonably avoid dying for your objective