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>>167664424
>>167664057
After sailing for what felt like ages 2 turns is 6 irl months, doesn't seem terribly realistic, we have come ashore at what looks like a prosperous land
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>>167664424
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>>167664497
The next city over has the name of the greatest man to ever live, seems like a fitting place to claim as our home!
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>>167664424
First for barbar invasions
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>Playing Vampire Counts.
>Realize that Bretonnia has been destroyed.
>Figure it was the Wood Elves.
>Notice Marienburg has 14 settlements.
>Middenland and Talabecland took out everyone other than Marienburg and Ostermark (who are down to 1 settlement) while I was genociding the Dwarfs.
>My Dwarf genocide pulled my reputation down with everyone other than Marienburg.
>Kislev went almost 100 turns unmolested until Archaon spawned in.
This is the last time I kill the Dwarfs before claiming the Empire Provinces. I'm just glad I noticed it before they started declaring war/breaking treaties. Most of my armies are balls deep in the badlands.
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Playing Durthu in the NEET elf mini campaign is a joke right? Everyone gets massive late game armies by turn 40 while you have useless dryads and at best some treekin by then because you have to build defensive in all your settlements. Add to that that every fucking elf faction declares war on you all the time. I saved on turn 57 and had to go back 15 times by now. Feels like pic related
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>>167664848
Huberto?
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>>167665109
what is this?
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My enemies are many, my equals are none

In the shade of living trees they said Athel Loren could never be conquered

In the land of vampires and necromancers, they said Sylvania could never be humbled

In the realm of chaos and snow, they said Norsca could never be tamed

Now they say nothing, they fear me, like a force of nature, a dealer in thunder and death

I say, I am Franz! I am Prince and Emperor!
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>>167665230
>he said nothing about greenskins
>gets his ass chopped off by goblin
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>no historic tw game for years
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH ROME
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>>167665161
He's trying to poop again anon
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Okay, how do I fight non-humans as a Vampire? I can only raze their towns, right? And my provinces can spread corruption only to adjacent ones. So I can safely create one-province-wide safe zone and then what? March across provinces after provinces of attrition?
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>>167664686
The gods will differently, however. As to which gods, nobody can say for sure.
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>>167665502
Raiding prevents attrition damage, but some vampire characters can spread corruption in local provinces. If you can get corruption high enough, attrition will be disabled, so chanelling stance can help bring troops back up to strength. However, that takes a while, so there may be a fair bit of bouncing back and forth between a safe province and the front lines.
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>>167665325
Remember the Rome 2 release? Good, now you don't wamt historic titles anymore.
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>>167665307
GONNA STAB
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>>167665898
Rome 2 became okay after a metric asston of patches though
Also Shogun 2 and Attila were perfectly fine even on release, WRE was literally shit-tier before but that was probably intentional anyway
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>>167665547
After an uneventful auto-resolve battle, Dimmidi is ours, and with it - the gems that it produces.
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>>167665502
usually lack of corruption will only be an issue in norsca and the badlands, as most dwarf provinces are close enough to human provinces to get to 50% corruption with some effort. For norsca and the badlands raiding and rotating armies in and out to avoid attrition is usually the best strategy if you really feel the need to purge them (I usually do this late-game, if ever).
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>>167665325
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>>167665898
>implying

If that was the case most would have stopped at empire, or even M2
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>>167666192
None of these games were the sequel to ROME
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>>167666062
The local population seems to be slightly annoyed at the arrival of a new KANG
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who /no hope/ here?
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Stuff

>We Bret you're pretty excited for Bretonnia - we are too. In the meantime, enjoy this screenshot.
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>>167666402
it's trebuchets that shoot pegasus knights?
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>>167666402
Not noticing any new units here.
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>>167666252
One was the game directly after Rome and broke everything that worked perfectly in it, and was the sequel to M1 which was damn good.
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>>167666402
we peasants now
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>>167666402
Is that a spear chucka?
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>>167666350
Alright, the GOD IS DEAD spam is legitimately unnerving.
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Should I get Warhammer from Humble Bundle for $12?
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>>167666461
gray infantry unit?
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>>167666718
yeah
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>>167666718
Yes.
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>>167666728
Pilgrims maybe? they were shown during Festag and that resolution doesn't help
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If the WRE is supposed to be the "best empire" then how come it's always the first one to fall and how come in some campaigns the ERE even manages to survive?
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>>167666298
>meagre fertility
>no port is sight
You fucked up, kid
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>>167667218
Because it's too good for this world anon.
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>>167666402
>No new units

What a shame
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>167666402
what are these guys circled here - they don't have the usual blue/red peasant color scheme
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>>167666298
As the populace revolts over and over, and as the KANGZ from the east converge like vultures upon our freshly-founded KANGdom, we finally get to the point of this campaign...
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>>167667582

Probably battle pilgrims
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>>167667585
Stop saying KANGz,you're playing Alans
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>>167666717
why does it keep spamming it though?
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>>167667585
Here we go, the Garamantians are upon us

>>167667723
I have not yet turned this land into a proper kingdom worthy of that name, for now it's still just a KANGdom
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>>167667218

Because the WRE were for the most part the original romans and their dominions, over hundred of years of ruling without any defined opposition had made them a lazy bunch, more eager to waste their money on debauchery than to actually manage properly the empire as it had no immediate threat in every direction. So when the nomads came in in waves it kind of fucked the WRE hard as their border patrol as by then been reduced to a bunch of levies only there by principle and wouldn't actually be able to defend their fort from any respectable force. Afterward it was like domino as the WRE struggled to keep power while fighting both the invading nomads that seemed countless coming out of bumfuck nowhere and their own client states that saw in that newly found weakness a chance for sovereignty. Kind of like trying to prevent a house of card from falling apart when you have 4 person poking stick at it.

The Eastern side were for the grand majority client states of Rome, with many of them holding them in reverence as they allowed them to rule their own shit more liberally than the Seuleucid and countless others before them that only sought to insure their subservience by crushing all resistance and dissidence. In comparison, the Romans were pretty nice fella who only asked tribute and if given actually respected their words and fought for you. So most of them were more than eager to live upon the beliefs and way of doing things that allowed them to survive in the first place.

Basically the eastern side adopted the original Romans way of doing things while the actual Romans had started to fall to decadence and ennui by then.
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>>167668081
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH ROME
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>>167666350
Wew, a Begotten reference, that was unexpected
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>>167666402
Looks like grail pilgrims in the gray/brown. I can't really tell if the men at arms in the picture are spearmen or a potentially new variant. A Sword or mace version would be cool.
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>>167668353
>So when the nomads came in in waves it kind of fucked the WRE hard as their border patrol as by then been reduced to a bunch of levies only there by principle and wouldn't actually be able to defend their fort from any respectable force.

This was actually by design, the limitanei were meant to serve as a light holding force on the frontiers of the empire, which would buy time for the other parts of the army to respond to threat wherever it occurred as part of a defense-in-depth strategy, which was necessary given how much land the romans had to defend
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Breastmen got fucking wrecked in 8th edition holy shit, why did they take out everything?
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>>167668849
It was done by people who didn't really give a shit about them
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Hi!

I'm Ian, and today on forgotten weapons...
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>>167666350
At I first this looks like a joke to me but the more I look at the picture the creepier it gets. At this point I'm pretty anxious at the thought of some inhuman figure with hollow eyes shows up out of nowhere and bang my window while screaming "NO MORE HOPE NO MORE HOPE". It's fucking pitch black outside, there's no traffic at this time because night and I'm alone in my home.
Fuck
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>>167668808

Nice info, didn't knew that bit, doesn't sound like the best of system if you're attacked from more than one flank but I suppose that wasn't supposed to ever be a problem from the roman point of view, given that no bordering empire or nation would dare start shit with them.
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>>167668081
>the KANGZ are upon us
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>>167669182
what was the FPS like in that battle?
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>Boot up Rome 2
Im not sure about historical accuracy but... WHERE ARE THE AXES?

I counted Thracian Falx and axes for Armenians and one pair of clubs for Gauls.

Was good axe rocket science in that era?
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>>167669256
55 or so
They just had reinforcements, it wasn't like there were literally 12500 niggers on the screen at once
In this battle there were and it was like 9 fps when the battle started
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>>167669447
Is this DEI for Atilla or some shit? Its got the ugly ass unit cards and ridiculous easy mode kill counts down.
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>>167667582
Pretty sure they're Battle Pilgrims, see pic.
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>>167669808
It's FotE
And no that's because I'm using endgame troops against literal tier 1 starter units
I didn't even give them any ranged or cav
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>>167668779
>I can't really tell if the men at arms in the picture are spearmen or a potentially new variant. A Sword or mace version would be cool.

It's hard to tell due to the low resolution, but they don't seem to have any spears (or halberds for that matter). Probably a sword-and-board version.
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what's difference between sword and mace in this game? and are there axes?
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>>167670284
In the new Zelda? Nobody knows yet, we haven't seen much of the game.
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>>167670284
If weapon has armor piercing statistic it ignores half the armor.
Thats how it works in Atilla anyway. On the other hand Warhammer is based around arming Dwarfs with axes and hammers so id imagine they took that out.
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>>167670360
A mace (or morningstar in the rulebook) essentially gives a charge bonus. Since flagellants are in the game already we can assume it boosts WD with not much ap and a decent charge bonus for an infantry unit.
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>>167670284
in attila, maces and axes both have bonus vs infantry and better ap than most sword units. I believe maces also differ in one of the stats that the game doesn't show like weapon reach or attack intervals
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>>167670674
>Total War Warhammer follows the rulebook
Dont be silly, theyre all designed around the same base game.

As you can see Dwarf Axes dont ignore armor like the Falx does for instance.
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>>167670360

In Warhammer every unit does a certain amount of "normal" damage and Armor piercing damage, you can see exactly how much of each by hovering over the weapon damage bar on their stat card. The armor piercing damage ignore armor completely and the normal damage is affected by armor

A unit that is listed as "armor piercing" is simply one with a high ratio of Armor piercing damage to normal damage
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>>167668445
What a fucking slaughter

It was uncomfortably close too, the anvil barely held on long enough
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>>167670985
>8hp
is that why combat is so fast?
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>>167671037
Wrong.
As you can see "armor piercing is extra modifier" that ignores half the armor for soft damage.
>>167670985

Melee Damage AP is unavoidable damage that some units excel at.
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>>167671220
You combine all health modifiers and you get hp per soldier.
29+8+57 - 94 hp

Not sure about speed.
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>>167670985
But CA kind of does to a point. Dwarf warriors have a choice of handweapon/shield or great-weapon. Although its an ax and in any other game that would be an AP unit, but in Warhams its not because a handweapon does not have the armor-piercing rule.

Forsaken and Flagellants have maces (I forget what Forsaken are technically classified as but I mean look at them), and those units have higher charge bonuses as well as increased normal weapon damage.
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>>167671087
FUCK

This is actually fucking risky now
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>>167670985
falxes don't ignore armor, they just have higher ap. I'm pretty sure the armor piercing yes/no is just there for autoresolve, similar to how some infantry have a "mounted yes" note that simply means they move farther on the campaign map
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>>167671224
>Melee damage so is unavoidable

This isn't true in warhammer, there is also physical resistance and ward saves.
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>>167671224

>Wrong.

Except I'm not wrong.

Units like Crypt Horrors that have "Armor Piercing" listed as an ability on their unit card still have armor piercing listed as "No" on Honga.

In fact looking around on Honga I can't find a SINGLE unit that has "Yes" on their unit card for Armor Piercing. Even dedicated AP units like Chosen with Great Weapons and Cairne Wraiths have "No"

It is ENTIRELY about the ratio of AP damage to normal damage. As far as I can tell the entire feature you are talking about has been removed from Warhams
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>>167671372

Forsaken don't have maces, they're listed as "Sword infantry"

They don't have swords either though, they have sharp bits at the ends of their mutant arms.

Flaggelants are listed as "Mace Infantry" and Crypt Ghouls are listed as "Cudgel Infantry"

Those are the only two with maces or mace-like weapons
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>>167671224
>>167671664
guys its not that hard weapon damage is split into normal and ap. Normal damage will be modified by armor while ap damage goes through armor but can get modified by physical resistance and ward saves. Worked the same way in R2 and Atilla.

Any bonuses are treated as ap damage
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>>167671372
To a point yes but thats simply damage that always go through.

AP damage is unavoidable if the weapon hits.

Armor piercing means Base Damage counts armor as a half when you roll die die.

Melee Attack and Melee Defense governs the chance to hit. If the formula is the same as in Rome 2 and/or Attila, it is around 40% base chance to hit, with each point of Attack above Defense giving +1% chance to hit, and Defense above Attack -1% chance to be hit. So unit with 60 attack and 20 defense attacking unit with 40 attack and 40 defense will have with each attack 60% chance to hit (60-40=20 40%+20%=60%) and vice versa (40 attack against 20 defense 40-20=20 40%+20%=60%).

Cap is 90% top and 10% minimum.

Then if you hit the guy AP damage applies and soft (base) damage counts vs armor by a dice roll. ARMOR dice roll that is.

Thing that game doesnt say to you is attack interval - Great Axe Marauder and Empire Halbediers which have attack speeds of 4.6 and 5.5 respectively compared to the average of 3.8.
Keep that in mind.
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>>167671894
ALSO SHIELDS!
Shields will absorb 25 to 50% of ranged soft damage so feel free to pepper great weapon assholes.
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>>167666402
There are peasant swordsmen at the upper far left. They are to the left of the white figure (Fay Enchantress I would guess) and to the right of the grail pilgrims.
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>>167671894

>Armor piercing means Base Damage counts armor as a half when you roll die die.

This doesn't exist in Warhammer.
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>>167672135
>ignoring the 400 melee damage ap right above the bit you circled
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>>167671664
Warhammer threw armor piercing out of the window then and focused on AP bonuses instead.

Atilla focuses on armor piercing with Axe units and such.
>>167672135
Indeed.
They gave it 400 AP damage instead.
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>>167671378
GET KEKED REBEL FUCKING SHITS

This truly is a fight for survival
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So according to honga, shields give a ton of armour in warhammer. Is this true? It would explain why the unshielded gors do so badly
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>>167671857
Forsaken don't function as normal swordsman either, they have a semi-ranged attack like halberds.
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Why would anybody recruit the Great Eagle instead of the Forest Dragon, I don't understand what the point of this unit is.

Also, why is the elfs skirmisher cav (or every single one of them really) so laughably weak. Their stats are good but they always take ages to fire and they just can't rack up any kills.
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>>167672263
Anon can I ask why exactly you, the Alans, are in the middle of the fucking desert?
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>>167672135
That seems redundant, why do they have a flag for armor piercing and straight up armor piercing melee damage?

>bonus vs elephants
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>>167672393

>Why would anybody recruit the Great Eagle instead of the Forest Dragon, I don't understand what the point of this unit is.

The only real justification for the Great Eagle existing is multiplayer/Custom battle where the fact that it costs less than half what a Forest Dragon does is significant.

>Also, why is the elfs skirmisher cav (or every single one of them really) so laughably weak.

Glade Riders are pretty good and allow for full horsefucker armies to actually work in campaign.

Hawk Riders and Sisters of the Thorn both fire way too slow
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>>167672393
great eagle is good for catching enemy fliers

>>167672252
the armor piercing yes/no flag in these screenshots doesn't mean a fucking thing, the ap system is the exact same as it was in rome2 and attila
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>>167672549
Because all games are built up from the same base game mechanic?
They simply use new textures, setting and crunch new numbers.

Warhammer was a good choice for them because both Rome 2 and Atilla use same base warfare tactics.
Also this means they cannot really move past 19th century - Fall of the Samurai was probably latest era we will ever see (and you know how was game all about attrition and infantry there)
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>>167672671
>the armor piercing yes/no flag in these screenshots doesn't mean a fucking thing, the ap system is the exact same as it was in rome2 and attila

Finally someone who gets it, I don't understand how people are fucking this up, the AP yes/no is a tooltip toggle for majority ap damage units
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>>167672842
its not even that, as shown by the giant screenshot. I have no clue what it is there for
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rome 2 crashes right on battle clash
not at the start or anything, but right when the armies are about to meet and i give an attack order, i get black screen then game closes down
i'm playing with dei
it's weird because i played the game like two weeks ago, didn't modify any files since then, now i can't play

any idea what it could be ?
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>>167669012
If you think about her, she can see you.
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>>167672263
I have no way of hiring any more troops outside of mercenaries at the moment, so I am sending my battered army on a counter-offensive at the Garamantians. Not a lot of money for the mercs either.

>>167672541
I've also converted to Minor Religions and am playing on legendary.

This is the only religious building avilable to Minor Religions followers, and I have no religious edicts at all.

That building costs 7 thousand gold to build, and can only be built in minor towns and not cities, and happens to be the only way to spread Minor Religions, as I also have no priests nor the ability to hire priests. It also requires gemstones to build, so I looked at the most infertile useless bumfuck-nowhere province I could find that produces gemstones, and settled there. Needless to say, I have no meaningful way to mitigate that -12 squalor, and the people seem to be praying to Nurgle or some shit in those shrines.

This is a challenge campaign, obviously.
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Just curious anons, if I were to stream a legendary WH campaign in the next week or so, what race would people be most interested in watching?

I was thinking Vamps.
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>start playing as Vlad
>all political interactions are still done by Mannlet
come ooon
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>>167673021
Sounds retarded to be honest
>giving up germanic qts for shitty nurgle memes
Literally worse than hitler
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>>167672842
> AP yes/no is a tooltip toggle for majority ap damage units
Doesnt look like it
The fuck does it do
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>>167673071
Vlad ain't got time for that.
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>>167673036
G O B B O S
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>>167672393
Glade riders are the best skirmisher cav in the game and can kite for ages, especially the poison version.

Eagle riders are expensive but are a real pain to deal with if the opponent doesn't have flyers or archers of their own
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>>167673036
Beastmemes?
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>>167672671

>the armor piercing yes/no flag in these screenshots doesn't mean a fucking thing, the ap system is the exact same as it was in rome2 and attila

Then why do some units in Attila/Rome II have a Yes while 100% of Warhammer units have No?
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>>167672992
pls respond
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>>167673150
That's actually not a bad idea. Their legendary start is a bastard though. Perfect.
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>>167672943
>>167673115
>>167673218
I don't know if that thing means anything or if its wrong. In R2/Atilla/Warhams have the same AP system. In warhams units that have majority AP have the AP tag in the tool tip, every single one. They also have the AP marker next to weapon damage. Whatever that source is its wrong, the game tells you.
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>>167666637
Thought that too at first but you can see the gobbos flying.
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>>167673241
Sorry anon. No idea.
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>>167673423
welp
i validated steam files, apparently i'm missing 10mb of data for some reason
let's hope that fixes it
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>>167673021
>building a -12 sanitation building in a province with gems

hope you like plagues anon
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>>167673404
AP system is here but the discussion is about what armor piercing does.
Few sources online claim it cuts armor by half for normal damage.
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>>167666402
>jester agents when?
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>>167673535
it's gems, not germs
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>>167673021
>not going minor religion with WRE
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>>167673607
I wonder if that was scrapped after EE R2, never heard anything about that. R2 MP was the staple for years and something like that would have been noticed.
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>>167673021
Awwwww, the KANGZ left me a gift! How nice of them!

>>167673707
I'll think about it for the next campaign m9

>>167673535
Oh I'm gonna LOVE me some fucking plagues this campaign
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>>167673526
it did ! great
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>>167673965
Yea it would.
On the other hand Thracian Warriors lose to Oathsworn so i guess its taken out.
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>>167673021
damn those "dark cult" buildings are spooky


Weren't there a cthulhu reference in one of them?
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>>167673968
>moving away from the place you built the cult when there's another rebellion threatening
u goof'd
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>>167673968

>>167674440
No worries m8 I've left a garrison for exactly this purpose
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>>167674710
The rebellion was swiftly crushed, but it was not the only threat that emerged that turn - the KANGZ send another full stack at us!

Fun fact: I can't actually move between the 2 cities without taking desert attrition without taking a massive detour through Roman territory, so I had to tank 1 turn of attrition in order to get to this town to capture it, and will have to do the same again to reach the KANGZ capital.
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>>167675008
And so they come, with an overwhelming force of tier 2 sword heavy infantry, onagers and lots of spears. This is going to be a tough one yet again.
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>>167675323
How the fuck are you not getting destroyed, holy shit
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>>167675637
Ai is retarded as usual.
On the other hand Atilla buffs units too so he is quite fucked there.
He is going to be ran over with legios.
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Any Attila overhaul mods yet?
DEI is getting boring.
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>Playing as Alans
>Not exclusively using horse fuckery to General snipe and mass rout
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>>167676374
>play on Legendary
>you gotta kill 85% of a unit for them to shatter even with General dead
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>>167675323

>>167675637
This should tell the story reasonably well. One of my mounted archer squads is firing whistling arrows, the other fires flaming arrows, for a total -12 in morale for the whole enemy line. With well-timed cycle-charging, I am able to just barely force a chain-rout just as my anvil collapses on itself. With that said, every battle is only barely won, and I get an uneasy feeling every single time at around the mid-point of the battles.
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Middenland WHEN?
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>>167676682
YEEEES GET KEKED KANG SCUM


Also, I made a mistake, it's actually -16 morale and not -12. Whistling arrows is -12, flaming arrows is -4 on top of that.
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>>167676682
>>167677087
Hey,at least youre not playing Arabs.
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>>167677192
>barb_philosopher
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>>167677502
>-10 morale per region
>not in battle
You can literally have generals wanking off in the region for -30 morale easily
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>>167677647
grace is a bitch beggar without fun
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I'm about to get Attila for $5 with all DLC. Are there any mods that I NEED to get, or is vanilla enjoyable?
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>>167677087
A few turns later, I've finally stabilized - I'm starting to convert the settlements into my culture type, I have a steady income, my religion is on the rise, the public order is increasing, and I'm finally able to recruit my own units again!

The Garamantians have probably continued to build up in the meantime, so they remain a threat, but for the moment time is on our side.

I will call it a day at this point, and go stream some Alien: Isolation.

Tune in tomorrow for the next episode of my Legendary Desert Nurglite Alan Adventures, where I will (hopefully) defeat the Garamantians for good, and look for conquests elsewhere.
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>>167678792
Can Alans compete against mongols with their cavalry?
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>>167678776


I'd get AoC if you want that medieval-ish feel.(unit variety mod a must though)
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>>167679741
Alans get Cataphracts - less ammo for more armor
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Yes game, we almost didn't make it.
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>>167680170

It's because most of the allied AI army died Anon
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>you will never live in the Warhammer Fantasy universe
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>>167680353
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>>167680353
how is this a bad thing?
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>>167680353
>>167680431
That's sounds terrible.

People, things and creatures everywhere trying to kill you, even in shit like Altdorf. You probably half to double check your toilet before the deed for Sewer Skaven and after the deed to make sure your poop hasn't devoted itself to Nurgle.
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>>167680653
it's more exciting that my current life
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>>167677087


how many goddamn legion deserters are wandering around down there anyway?
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>>167680353
W-why would you like to live there.
Humans are literally fucked.
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>>167680353
thank fucking god

>Sylvanian peasants lived under Empire tyrants then Vampire tyrants suffering the terrors of the night living short morbid lives

>Empire peasants fucked over by evey bad thing imaginable and terrible leadership for centuries

>Bretonnian peasants treated as subhuman garbage, also living short miserable lives

>Be an greenskin, more than likely get offed quickly in a fight

>Be a skaven slave, work, starve, fight, die, get eaten by other slave

>Be Nehekaran, Nagash nuked everything, die to plague

>Be Tilean, be comfy, then get eaten by Skaven

>Be orc, die fighting something early on

>Be anything, just die

Unless you are born a prominent noble of an order race or the baddest of the bad your life is short and terrible.
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>>167679741
alans wipe the floor with huns, in pic related I fucked up several times because it was a forest battle and got some of my cav charged while stationary, and still beat them
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>>167680787
my life is long and terrible right now
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>>167680535
>>167680653


You don't get to wear one of these without getting strange looks, for one.
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>>167680868
long and perfect
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>>167680868
Sounds to me like its mundane.
Just how we all are, its a fact of life laddie.

You want to go full crazy go join Foreign Legion or something.
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I bet there's no anime in the warhammer universe, what's the fucking point then?
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>>167680787
You can live pretty long in a lot of the Empire provinces. Averland is said to be relativly peaceful(which means more cults and other hidden threats I guess). Reikland has a strong military and they activly defend in the small towns and wreck beastmen shit. It's not totally grimdark. 10 million reiklanders doesn't die every second like some believe. You can probably live out your whole life without experiencing a big orc invasion.
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>yfw Morghur doesn't actually reincarnate, it's just that Ariel is such a fucking slut every "incarnation" of Morghur fucks her and she gives birth to his(their) child.
>This is what truly makes Orion hate him(them), as he brings satisfaction to her that he never could
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>>167681154
Americans please go back to bed
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>>167681206
Your God is a cuck
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>>167680950
>improve life by association with the french
suicide would be a greater improvement.
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>>167681115
Gorbad Ironclaw, Grom the Paunch, Vlad von Carstein, the centuries of The Age of 3 Emperors, the Skaven war with the plagues that knocked out 75% of the Empire population over a thousand years before Franz, various Chaos invasions including the Nurglite EndTimes fun.

Ya naaaaah
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>>167681537
Worked for Serbs.
Until they tried to coup the country.
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>>167681639
Oh wow, things happened in a span of thousands of years.

The horror.
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>>167681752
Serbs are the worst people on Earth.
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>>167681639
And the empire always has 60000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 troops to hold against everything(except taking back Marienburg of course) despite this.

This wouldn't be possible if they didn't have long eras of relative peace. There woudn't be a fucking society like the one the Empire has without some long periods of "normalcy" in the majority of the Empire or any other human nation.
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>>167681841
>what are muslims
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>>167681537
There's barely any french in the foreign legion though, that's the point of it
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>>167682020
People who know that they're scum and so less scum
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>>167682020
>people
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>>167682020
Nope, Serbs are worse. Europe could have had a golden age if the little fucks hadn't gotten so god damn butthurt over Austro-Hungary, that they shot the person that was most sympathetic to their cause in the establishment.
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>>167681810
>>167681937

Is the best place to live as a peasant, undoubtedly. Is it any good, fuck no. You accidentally lock eyes with a witch hunter, you are dead. Live under an Imperial tyrant like the Von Draks, you get beheaded just to play it safe you MIGHT be up to something. Beastmen are always a thing and when shit goes south and it does, someone like Mikael Ludenhof is going to throw your ass under the bus (or minobus)

Empire is just a slightly lighter shade of grimdark and their politics are among the most retarded, in a wonderful way.
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>>167682221
>Von Draks

More like von Dead.
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>>167682178
>WW1 wouldnt happen if Ferdinand wasnt shot
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>>167682178
>World War 1 started with the assassination of the Arch-Duke
hmmmmmmmmm
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Can't wait till this gets releases :^)
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FUCKING WHEN?
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>>167682350
>>167682451

Tomorrow
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>>167682178
>he thinks WWI happened because arch-cuck ferdinand got shot and not because european elites were competing for control over profitable colonies
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>>167682334
>>167682318
>>167682616
Let's say you have a house that is dangerous, not up to code. A lot of people are working to fix it, to turn off the gas lines, shoring up the walls, and trying to take out the mold. They're not doing a great job of it, but they're fucking trying.

Then some asshole comes in with a molotov cocktail and chucks it in the house. The repair crew puts out the fire. That same asshole lights up some dynamite and chucks it in. The house explodes, and everyone gets mad at the member of the crew that takes a swing at the asshole literally blowing up the house.

You don't just shrug and say oh well, bound to happen, you can't blame that guy.

The arsonist was Serbia, the house was the Balkans, and preceding the shooting of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, the Serbs had been doing their best to kick up shit because they couldn't get over not being the biggest.
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>>167682117
Its existence supports the existence of France though.
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>>167682741
>The arsonist was Serbia, the house was the Balkans, and preceding the shooting of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, the Serbs had been doing their best to kick up shit because they couldn't get over not being the biggest.

You fucking idiot. Whole thing started because Germans were surrounded from 3 sides and German High command was worried Ruskies will stop being retarded one day and modernize.

Also
>A-H wanted to keep its empire strong
>lets annex Bosnia
>what could possibly go wrong
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>>167682918
delete this
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What year is this supposed to be anyway?1204?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuVEIVIf5bE

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=858213115

This map looks absolutely amazing.
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>>167683127
Twelve twelve! It says in the title you bingbong
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>>167682741
> Serbs had been doing their best to kick up shit
>KuKs sent unacceptable ultimatum to Serbia
>Serbs accepted everything
>what do we do now
>lets invade anyway

Croat pls
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>>167683239
I first read that as Adolf Adventures and I'm a bit disapointed now
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>>167682451
>>167682350
Just give it up anon
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>>167683127
Looks okay i guess.
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>>167683339
Maybe it did at some point,but it no longer does
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>>167683953
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>>167683953
>Medieval Kingdoms Total War 1212 AD
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>>167683003
Whatever the intentions of the participating parties may have been doesn't matter. What matters is what actually happened.

>The Serbian royal family is friendly to the Habsburgs
>Unacceptable
>Get brutally murdered by a conspiracy of military officers
>Made an international pariah due to this, further fueling the eternal Serb victimhood complex
>A few years later, A-H decides to annex Bosnia because Habsburgs have an EU4 player mentality (Which is retarded, but irrelevant at the moment)
>Serbs get pissed because they also want to paint the map
>Decide to make a terrorist group that runs rampant across the Austro-Hungarian empire.
>Smirk at every condemnation because big brother Russia will protect them.
>Arrange the murder of Franz Ferdinand and his wife because Serbs love killing royal families I guess.
>A-H demand Serbia to bring the assassins and their plotters to justice.
>Serbia "lol u mad"
>A-H have had enough.
>Give an ultimatum to a literal terrorist state on their borders.
>Serbia responds with whining to Russia.
>Dither.
>Eventually accept nearly all the points, with a great deal of whining and handwringing.
>Except for the point about allowing Austrian forces to police Serbia
>War were declared.
>In the face of the overwhelming criminality of Serbia and its actions, its unashamed praise of assassins killing innocent people, and its questionable claims, Serbia is granted all of the territory it asked for, and more.

>And then Serbia decided that THAT wasn't enough for it either.

Serbs are the worst.
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>>167684487
>m-muh victim complex
>A-H did nothing wrong
>CNN tier fact wiggling
WW1 was bound to happen laddie, Balkans or no Balkans.

Actually maybe A-H shouldve attacked Italy too, seeing they shot Franz Josephs wife in 1898.
Good thing you werent a ruler though seeing Ruskies lost an ambassador in Turkey lately.
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>>167684487
but at least they remove kebab
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>>167685591
Not until other people do it for them
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>>167683598
>HOLY
>ROMAN
>EMPIRE
555-Comeonnow
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>>167685370
You the kind of guy to take money from the collection plate when it passes around because somebody else was bound to steal it anyway? Even if something is (supposedly) inevitable, blame should still be allotted to the person that fucking does it.

Oh, and the grasping at straws with Empress Elisabeth? You're going to ignore the fact that Franz Ferdinand was assassinated by a state sponsored terrorist group, and Empress Elisabeth was killed by an anarchist?
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>>167664424
post comfy empires
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Im bored
Post funny memes
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>>167685845
>he wants realistic HRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
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>>167685990
And you are that guy who only looks for a provocation and not proper reason things happened.
>grasping at straws
>state sponsored terrorist group
If i recall correctly assassin was denounced by Serbia and in the end couple officers were put on trial during ww1 for secret society connections.
Ofcourse its easy to point fingers when you ask for a casus belli, isnt it?
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>>167685993
Would be perfect if it included Anatolia for maximum comfy
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>>167686045
"HRE was a mistake" - Charlemagne
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>>167686020
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>>167686520
>bordering the eastern blobs
>comfy
ahah no.
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>>167686643
I dont get it
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>>167686784
>(
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>>167686830
no really, what does it mean?
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>>167686020
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>>167687091
It's Pepe. He bullies wojak as in that picture.
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>>167686450
If you recalled correctly, you'd remember that the trials that Serbia put on for the assassins occurred AFTER the war started, and only when the prime minister got worried about their power. Gavrilo Princip, the murderer of Franz Ferdinand and his wife was reinterred in 1920 in Sarajevo as a hero. Serbians love murderers.

And yes, it is REMARKABLY easy to point fingers when there's an assassination and we know the organizers, the members, the perpetrators, and the chain of events. Talking about this smoke screen of "Well ANYTHING could have caused it" is bullshit wishy washy historical semantics that are dancing around the facts of what actually happened.
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Are there any mods that make Warhammer's campaign harder while keeping the unit moral and stuff the same?

I'm tired of only being able to field two armies to their seven and have to deal with their incomprehensible moral bonus in battles. I'd like to be able to field a ton of armies and fight off a ton of their armies while having fun battles
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>>167687469
anon...
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>>167687469

>I'm tired of only being able to field two armies to their seven and have to deal with their incomprehensible moral bonus in battles. I'd like to be able to field a ton of armies and fight off a ton of their armies

Radious

Not even memeing, this is probably THE primary feature of Radious outside of the fan-fiction units.
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>>167687469
yes, it's called "Normal difficulty"
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>>167687464
>events. Talking about this smoke screen of "Well ANYTHING could have caused it" is bullshit wishy washy historical semantics that are dancing around the facts of what actually happened.

Meanwhile you are dancing on the fact A-H and Balkans was a backwater area to begin with.
You literally took out Germans, English, French and Russians out of the equation like they were all fine and dandy and not sabrerattling each other at all.
Its obvious you are either Magyar or Croat and that your own inferiority complex is spewing into a historical factual conversation here.

As i said you dont give a shit why anything happens, you only look at the spark that blew the lid off.

WW2 started over Danzig, didnt it now?
So why do we even bother with ANY fact before that happened, huh? Who gives two shits about annexation of Austria or Czechoslovakia partition, they didnt start the war.
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>>167687932
There aren't enough enemy armies on "Normal Difficulty" is what I'm saying. I don't want to be gimped like they do on harder difficulties but I do want them to have that better economy like on harder difficulties.
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>suddenly "insufficient graphics memory"
>halfway through battles it freezes and lags and the audio gets all fucked
>tfw can't play TW:WH anymore
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>>167688243
anon...
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>>167688243
You want Shogun 2 campaign by the looks of it.
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>>167688354
>>167688354
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>>167688243
Choose a lower battle difficulty.
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>>167688594
Not him but the battle difficulty slider is bugged. You can change it but the modifier stays at the same level as your campaign difficulty.
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>>167659731
So uh, this is still happening.
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>>167688141
Yes, I'm focusing on the Serbs now, because this entire debate all started over the statement regarding the fact that Serbs are a bunch of shitty assholes throughout history. The parallels with WW2 are outside of my interest. The actions of other countries are outside of my interest. My interest is on the inevitable spinelessness of Serbs unwilling to understand history. Online, Serb nationalists (What kind of asshole gave those idiots internet?) whine that they're being unfairly blamed for WW1.

To go back to my earlier analogy, the Balkans, and the overall diplomatic situation of pre world war one Europe, it was a house. A very dangerous house. A poorly made house. A house that would be criminal to live in. The people of Europe were keeping it, roughly, working. They were idiots, and ransacked the Ottoman Empire's stuff when the chance came- I guess in this case they tore the sprinkler system out and sold it for crack money.

So. Shitty house. But then some asshole came along, chucking rocks at it. That asshole is Serbia. When the thing came crashing down, they turn around and complain that they shouldn't have made that house so shitty.

Then the Serbs tear out the wiring to sell for crack money. And wonder why no one will invite them to parties.

To move on to your analogy about Danzig- let's say I said Germans are shit. You complaining about the Versailles Treaty, the rise of communism in the USSR, and the Great Depression would all be relevant in describing the situation that the war started in: but I keep saying, "Germany invaded Poland, starting WW2."

I'm not wrong. Bringing in every other little thing doesn't change the fact that Germany set off aggressions, and started the war. Serbia assassinated Franz Ferdinand, refused the ultimatum from A-H, and set off the war.
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shut the fuck up about serbia already, no one care about the balkans anyway
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>>167688141

This.

I'm a Croat, and IMHO, WW1 would've happened anyway - one way or another.

Serbs wanted it because they were butthurt over Bosnia.
A-H wanted it to get the Balkans.
Russia wanted to keep A-H away from Turkey (so she could gobble it instead)
Germany wanted it's Lebensraum - and the only way forward was East.
France wanted revenge for the 1870
UK wanted Germany not threatening it's overseas territories.
and Italy wanted her Historic Dalmatian Clay

Gavrilo was just a spark - the Nuke was set to blow a long time before.
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>>167668983
FUCK
you got me
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>>167689470
Imagine if Willy 2 was never born.
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>>167689470
Even if it would have happened either way, that doesn't change the fact that Serbia started it.

"Hitler would have been such a nice leader if he hadn't killed all those people."

"Abraham Lincoln would have had a great time at the theater if he hadn't have been shot."

"Hillary Clinton would have been really happy if she had been president."

Stop arguing what might have happened, focus on what did happen.
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>>167689470
>Italy
>Historic
>Clay
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>>167689248
>still blaming the nation because of diaspora nationalists going apeshit
>when Italians do it its only an anarchist, lets be reasonable there

And i really can bring as many things as i want on the table here. A-H was a nation on the edge of fragmenting with Magyars that didnt want to give any privileges to any other minorities. Ferdinand idea of federalized Balkans was a pipe dream that wouldnt be allowed by Magyars in the first place. Slavs were alienated by Bosnia takeover.
A-H in the whole was lagging behind whole Europe just like Russia was with no end in sight.

Meanwhile Germany was getting isolated from 3 sides and didnt want to lose only dependable ally they could get in Europe plus Russia was showing signs of progress. All it would take was one army reformer and Prussians would be outnumbered 3 to 1 when war started.
Brits were pissed because Wilhelm wanted big dick fleet. French were pissed because muh land. Russians were wanking on Poland and felt humiliated because Japs royally fucked them decade beforehand.

So once a HAPPENING well...happened Germans gave carte blanche to A-H.
A-H doesnt do anything for 3 weeks. Your heir gets assassinated and you keep quiet for 3 weeks?
Then Germans strong-arm them again into action and ultimatum pops up, Serbs accept it and A-H still attacks because ultimatum was designed to be rejected in the first place.

You are literally looking for a scapegoat because backwater Austria Hungary ended up in a fuckall feud between rest of European powers and lost everything.
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>>167690229

Yes, yes, we know:
We had a WW1 because (by sheer chance) a Serb kicked off the first game of the International
Shooting Championship.
Happy?

Now shut the fuck up and kill your Gobbos.
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>>167690536
Now look at ultimatum.


1. Suppress all publications which "incite hatred and contempt of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy" and are "directed against its territorial integrity"
2.Dissolve the Serbian nationalist organisation Narodna Odbrana ("The People's Defense") and all other such societies in Serbia.
3.Eliminate without delay from schoolbooks and public documents all "propaganda against Austria-Hungary".
4.Remove from the Serbian military and civil administration all officers and functionaries whose names the Austro-Hungarian Government will provide.
5.Accept in Serbia "representatives of the Austro-Hungarian Government" for the "suppression of subversive movements".
6.Bring to trial all accessories to the Archduke's assassination and allow "Austro-Hungarian delegates" (law enforcement officers) to take part in the investigations.
7.Arrest Major Vojislav Tankosić and civil servant Milan Ciganović who were named as participants in the assassination plot.
8.Cease the cooperation of the Serbian authorities in the "traffic in arms and explosives across the frontier"; dismiss and punish the officials of Šabac and Loznica frontier service, "guilty of having assisted the perpetrators of the Sarajevo crime".
9.Provide "explanations" to the Austro-Hungarian Government regarding "Serbian officials" who have expressed themselves in interviews "in terms of hostility to the Austro-Hungarian Government".
10.Notify the Austro-Hungarian Government "without delay" of the execution of the measures comprised in the ultimatum.

So, let me get this clear.
>rewrite schoolbooks
>censor paper
>purge government
>dissolve all nationalist organizations in the state
>your government is going to be ran by people we send from now on

Would any of you anons ever accept such a thing as an independent nation?
And then its accepted except the part where Austrian officials control the whole country like a puppet. The insolence!
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I wonder if anyone else will be getting some goodies for the Old World Patch

>WoC and Beasties are missing Lore of Shadows (and Bretonnia)

>Greenskins are missing a shit ton of characters

>A nice WElf adjustment

I really hope we are getting a little more than Bret stuff though that will be a lot of new content in itself

Also fuck this convo, not even /his/ related to TW let alone how boring it is
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>>167689134


There is no one there, ONLY THE CACKLING OF THIRSTY GODS!
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>>167690667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCEUZ4rFiac
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>>167690536
>>167691108
Jesus christ serbshit go back to wargame and shut the fuck up.
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>>167691398
Prefer that they buff Kemmler and Gelt tbqh
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>>167691398
You think we will get Skaven anytime soon?
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>>167691723
I feek that needs a fundamental change in the games magic system that we will not see until possibly the second game. I just don't see how you can make those 2 or any magic-based lord perform what they need to do with the current system in place. Wurzzag does alright as a magic lord but even then its not that great.

>>167691941
New race 2nd game, base. Maybe even the pre-order bait.
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>>167692106
>second game
Wont that be in like 4+ years?
Id assume Medieval is next game theyre gonna remake?
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>>167690061
>no wagging willy
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>>167692204
Fantasy and History have separate teams. #2 is already getting worked on, history will be a new setting apparently, not much more than that is known.
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>>167692204
Warhammer has three standalone games planned that will apparently all fit together into one big game. I doubt we will see a historical title before they are all finished, but they are apparently working on both at the same time.
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>>167690667
I'm satisfied. As long as somebody admits Serbs are shitters.
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>>167692348
So basically they are going to outjew Paradox with DLC?
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>>167688296
Try lowering the graphics, specifically anything to do with textures or unit details.


Worst case could either be a graphics card or ram issue.
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>>167680787
>be human
>go to norsca
>lift
>become a marauder
>lift some more
>become a warrior of chaos
>lift even more
>become chosen
>continue lifting with your /fit/ chosen bros
>boss of this gym, Archy the /fit/Chosen calls you and your bros
>kill everyone who's not /fit/

Sounds pretty comfy desu
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>>167688296
I usually turn off the shadows first.
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>>167692604
>Total cost for CK2 DLC: £178.70
>Total cost for TWW DLC as of now: £47.94
Unless you're counting the new games as DLC, I doubt it
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>>167692604
Aside from the blood policy the DLC has been solid. WoC needs some better campaign implementation but have a solid roster for MP but was also the early adopter bonus and was clearly rushed as a production.

Over the course of the games there will be a lot of paid content and they always stick a piece of free shit beside it. With all the games getting connected together the shit you get will carry throughout the series.

Fortunately CA has been burned so bad in the past they are keeping on their toes and the DLC quality has been improving albiet some have a problem with the mini campaign tack-ons.

Overall people may bitch about DLC (comprising of 95% of steam negative reviews), but lo and behold people are buying it in record numbers anyway so who knows if the silent majority actually has a problem with it.
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>>167692779
>forever bound to the armor
>no free will
>belong to Chaos body and soul
Yeah...nah.
>>167692930
I count new games as Fall of the Samurai.
Unless they bring as much content its DLC.
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>>167680083
Not him.

What's a good unit variety mod for AoC?
I just tried Age of Vikings. Unit roster was only slightly better than vanilla.
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>>167692779
Need to skip the marauder step.
All marauders represent vikings, and are by very nature worthless cowards.
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>>167693234
no free will, no free problems
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>>167693234

I don't see how not having free will is a problem considering you don't have it IRl eithier.
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>>167694243
>>167694483
Well if i for instance try to be cautious about by rapey and pillaging ways Chaos might as well turn me into a spawn.

Speaking of such things...this new Everchosen (Archaeon?) he is a half Norsk half Empire bastard right? Any other mixed breed characters in the fluff?

Did elves ever bang Brettonians?
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>>167687091
It means that life has no meaning and there is no meaning to getting a gf and that getting a gf is easy as long as you realize it is both pointless and impossible
In other words just get a waifu
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>>167694679

Black orcs are Chaors/orc hybrids

Gnoblars are goblins who got fucked into being another race by ogres

Manfred is half dwarf(Presumably)

Azhag is half vampire
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>>167695050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isxvXITTLLY
>>167695179
H-how does Ogre bang a G-goblin.
Ive never seen Warhammer female goblin...
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>>167695179

So greenskins are the Elves of Warhammer?
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>>167695179
Sounds pretty tin hat
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>>167694679
Half-Beastmen turing into ungors or the hornless bray. Ghorros Warhoof, the Sire of a Thousand Young was the embodiment of "If it's a hole its a goal".

>>167695179
this guy is memeing, but doing it well
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>>167695395
>Ghorros Warhoof
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Am I some kind of meme spouting reddit tier shitter if I want to try Radious for Warhammer? Playing it right now as the Empire, and the unit rosters seem pretty bare bones even by base Total War standards. From what I can tell, there are a few more Empire units hidden behind DLC, but not a lot. I feel like Radious' literal unit autism (MOUNTED BOMB NAGITANA NINJAS) fits a lot better with Warhammer than historical games, since everything is pretty wacko ridiculous anyways. Do other people use different unit expansion mods, or are you not really bothered by the roster sizes and I'm just subjectively autistic?
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>>167695816

>Am I some kind of meme spouting reddit tier shitter if I want to try Radious for Warhammer?

Absolutely
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>>167695816
When are we getting flying towers dlc?
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>>167695537
exactly, maybe one day he can be a Leggo hero or something
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>>167695395

I totally forgot about beastmen, they have lots of half breeds too. Beastmen are infused with the power to rape men and have children with them.

Shadowgave refers to a beastmen born to a human mother, Morghur always comes from a human mother when he is reborn. Crowfather was born of a woman too. Harpies are the female version of shadowgave's That's why they are more human than other types of beastmen.

And you know those furry giants the beastmen have? yeah well Giants can actually have children with anyrace with a penis. THe originally got fucked to retardation by the ogres, but they also got fucked by followers of slaneesh(Chaos Giants) and Beastmen(furry Giants).
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What's up with the Waystalker in battles, the guy should hit lords like a truck but he's always obstructed or doesn't seem to do much damage.
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>>167696048
>Centigor
>horse cock
Goddamn
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We'll never be able to see six gors hold down a young Imperial State Soldier as a Ghorgan pierces his tiny asshole with its huge cock.
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>>167696148
then move him into positions where he isn't obstructed. Also get the Arrow.
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>>167696307
>oy hol the twolegged weakling down
>you gonna take it all da way, imperial boy
>buckle up
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>>167693338

this one

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=576108597&searchtext=Age+Of+Charlemagne
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>>167695816
>unit rosters seem pretty bare bones even by base Total War standards.
Nigga, you serious? I played Atilla today and this shit was way worse.

>be playing age of Charlememe
>be eternal anglo
>spear unit
>sword unit
>axe unit
>archer guys
>cavalry dudes
>javelin guys
>better versions of those units

Compare this to the least finished faction (CW)

>5 LL (some of them can be flying)
>heroes (can be flying)
>moral elite squad
>4 types of frontline infantry with different tiers
>4 types of cav
>a giant
>a shaggoth
>two types of trolls
>a squad of dragon ogres
>hellcannon
>manticore
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Holy shit forest dragons melt super fast, is CA sure these guys are dragons? Guess not every Woodelf unit can be an Eternal Guard (dismounted sawn off crossbow)
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>>167696307
>Cannibalistic Minotaurs who want to want to drown themselves in blood doing the sexual

wrong one m8 you need a Slaanbull for that, which we will never get
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So, what are the odds of Bretonnia getting another hero?
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>>167696896
It's gonna be green knight, we see him on the promotional art
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>>167696831
>Slaanbull
explain
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>>167696972

As a hero, not a lord?
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>>167696985
A Slaanesh-dedicated Doombull, the following is ripped from lexicanum:

As with human Champions, a Doombull may swear allegiance to a single Chaos god, or worship them all with equal fervour, and this is often reflected in their appearance. Doombulls of Khorne, sometimes called Bloodbulls, often have red-tinged flesh and fur, and their horns are sheathed in heavy brass. The Plaguebulls of Nurgle are fetid, bloated creatures, with gargantuan stomachs filled with corpse gas, and ridden with poxes and boils. Slaanbulls, who worship the god of extravagance Slaanesh, decorate their bodies with many gory trophies, and jewellery looted from others is hammered into their bare flesh and hung on their horns. Most bizarre are the Tzaanbulls, dedicated to the Lord of Magic, Tzeentch. Their brightly patterned skin, wreaths of twisting horns and an aura of crackling Chaos energy mark them out from others of their kind.

The source they used for this was Warhammer Armies: Beasts of Chaos (6th Edition)
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>>167696896
As long as they get at least 3 damsel options. Life, Beast and Heavens.

Maybe another if we're really lucky. but i won't hold my breath.

>>167697169
It makes a lot more sense.
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>>167696985
Slaanesh worshipping Doombull (Minotaur Lords)

Maybe you can dig out a conversion miniature somewhere of one.
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>>167697169
We already know that they'll have three lords, and that TGK is not one of them.

Why do people keep not knowing this?
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>>167696729
Forest dragons are for their wide area terror and their charge. Don't let them get tied down or focused down with arrow fire. but terror can shatter the opponent when used at the right time. bassically you want to send the dragon into the rear of a unit that is already is suffering moral problems.

If you want a monster that can get stuck in I'd go with treemen instead. or a unit that can hit and run the great eagle is better. You can always put your lord on a forest dragon, and then it makes it even better at doing an anti air and cav unit.
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>>167697236
The tzaanbulls sounds cool with the brightly patterned skin.
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>>167697393
>People are shocked at the Idea of ethereal heroes, even though belegar is already a thing. The green knight will just never be killable. but probably only appears at certain times or possibly just still woundable.
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>>167697393

I know they have three lords, what I'm asking is if they'll get another agent.
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>>167694679
>Did elves ever bang Brettonians?

Welves sometimes, yes.
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>>167697525
You know what would be cool?
If we could put favors/marks on each units when we recruit them...they did that in Gothic Armada.
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>>167697525
>>167697825

Ya they are pretty cool but the only hope is if that is a part of the Warhams 3: Chaos Gods Edition.
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>>167696048
>not just Centigors owe familial debt to Ghorros

Implied horse cock rape.
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>>167680353
>ywn be a qt vampiress who owns a spoopy manor in Sylvania
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>>167695050


Rejoice! For a Fay Enchantress provides you with feet!
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>>167698478
>tfw there will never be a mod that gives her a really tight dress
>tfw no Fay butt.
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>>167698526
What the hell's your problem?
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>>167698194
Yes, thats how bray, some ungors, and the lower tiers of Beastmen society are made. Some even speculate there are harpies and giants that have a Ghorros bloodline essentially living out a monster girl harem decades before that became a thing.

Getting belligerently drunk, fighting from time to time and fucking anything with a fuckable orifice is a pretty decent way to live a life, praise Slaanesh.
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>>167695050
>feudal lords take 90% of what you produce
>"gift" it back to you as subsistence rations
>peasants bred to be physically and mentally weak
>the smartest snap and become forest dwelling brigands

fuck yo shield
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>>167698478
Why does she walk barefooted?
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>>167699108
>TFW no daemonette gf
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>>167698526

Malkfu was better imo
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>>167699146
>your stronger but stupider brother gets picked up as Man-at-Arms
>bags your childhood sweetheart because bitches love uniforms
>spends his lifetime hunting your band in the woods
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Where do I even go from here? Grimhold in the Karak province has been razed by someone and it is far too expensive to rebuild for almost no gain.

Seeding anything outside the little forest is barely worth it, do I just run around and sack shit for money until I can fully upgrade my only real settlement? I can't really fight the other Elfs, they're sitting on more than a stack plus garrison.
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>>167699108
>you will never teach a daemonette the one pleasure she has never experienced
>love
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>>167699291
>with the implementation of Dark Elves and Slaanesh daemons are releasing a new DLC

As you know we released Blood for the Blood God DLC to implement gore without affecting the rating. In continuing that theme we are released Ass and Tits DLC to really drive home sexual violence and intimidation Warhammer is known for.

I'd pay shekels for it, pure pottery
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>>167699829
>Cum for the Cum God DLC
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>>167699829
>Slaanesh DLC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QukbyOMRc
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>>167699627


wait for them to get involved in forreign war, sack some bret or empire settlements for dosh in the meantime

when the time is right you stab em in the back and consolidate your little magical forest, it'll be easier to defend it from their counter attack
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>>167699281


she's riding bro
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What did CA mean by this?

>>167680787
>Be ogre, comfy in the mountain, eating everything and taxing the weakling
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>>167699923
>>167700061
I mean how do you implement those guys without it?
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Will Ogres have ninjas?
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>>167700951
Alot of bondage, little skin.
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>>167681937
>>167682221
Didn´t Grimgor just settle down with his pals in that single pass where Chaos shits could come through to the Empire lands and killed chaos people until he grew tired of it?

My lore is rusty by didn´t that lead to relative peaceful times in the empire lands?
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>>167701168
Oh yes. Most certainly.
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>>167701316
If my lore isnt rusty GW killed off Warhammer for more SPEEEHS MUHREEENS
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Is there a way to increase the chances of getting the bride event in m2?

in my stainless steel game I'm constantly seeing reagents pop up for the AI and like 80% of my generals including faction leader are unmarried, even those that have a job as governor rather than commander. It's unrealistic as fuck.

Looking through the files I can't find anything about it, only in sound and images but no actual event.
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Finally picked up Warhammer Total War as it was like twelve bucks on the humble bundle monthly. Pretty fun so far, regret having to wait so long to play it. Been playing other games + pretty busy.
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>>167701363
Unatco?
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>>167701316
Ya until Crom the Conqueror got in there and Grimgor's army routed while they dueled and Grimgor failed to rally his troops. Crom isn't in the 8th ed book but can be found in Storm of Chaos. Would be a good replacement for Sigvald once the Undivided and Dedicated are split
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>>167701682
Your family spreads and breeds based on how much land you hold.
Say you have a king with three sons and each of those have like a son already.
Assume that they are all adult and alive and married.

As far as the limits for the family can spread, like the king can have one more son, all his sons can have another kid, and their kids can also reproduce.
Say you built this family while you owned half of Europe.
But then you ended up owning only four provinces.

Nobody would breed until you had like two family members left.

>>167702110
Formed by executive order after the terrorist strike on the statue, I have somebody in place though. I'm more concerned about Savage.
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Can I just put these things everywhere for some sick movement ranges?
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>>167703589
Only in your core regions. So up to 25% I guess.
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>want to start a new campaign in Warhams
>no roll image

/twg/, I...
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How the fuck do I have fun playing as the Romans in Attila?
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>>167704730

You wait for Ancient Empires
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>>167702403
but why

I just want hereditary titles. is that so much to ask for? stainless steel gives me all these neat little titles for governors, I love that, I want to see all these kinds of duchies switching hands, like the prince of whales had two sons and one daughter and expanded his family to Ireland, with two of his sons holding the duchy of dublin and galway, with his son-in-law inheriting the title of prince of whales. That's really neat, but two of his sons are 40+ and unmarried and one is 70 and married with no children.

The Langely family is going to die off because the game won't allow them to get married and have children. I don't like that. If they didn't have children naturally or if they died too early I would be fine with that, that's just how things go. But I don't like a forced limit like that.

I guess it comes down to I'm trying to play m2 like ck2 and the game doesn't allow that
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>>167704730
Install Fall of the Eagles so you're overpowered.
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>>167704797
I don't have the time to wait until I die.
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>>167705067
>I guess it comes down to I'm trying to play m2 like ck2 and the game doesn't allow that

Pretty much unfortunately.

The place titles in SS is like in the original Medieval Total War, a little bit of fluff but ultimately pointless.

Conquer more land and they'll breed more. I'd also refrain from adopting nobles, as there is then less room for your actual family

>prince of whales
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>>167705313
>a little bit of fluff but ultimately pointless.

But they gave some nice bonuses?
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>>167705678
Yeah I guess, they're all +1/2 command
+1 chivalry/fear/piety +/-1 loyaly and so on.
Fairly small bonuses and most generals have it so they even out at the end of the day.
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>>167704353

For your indecisiveness you have to play a campaign of ____Dorfs!____
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>tfw no Total War: Ancient China with added romance and politics features
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>lets try something older
>Installshieldwizard pops up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4
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>>167706480
Will it add bound feet too?
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>>167706480
>China
>romance
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>>167669012
Image search that shit haahaha
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>>167707297
Its only an old edgy art video. Dont scare the kids.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begotten_(film)
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>>167707456
Oww :((
When to she comes you look behind but those fingers of yours are hers
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>>167707456
The story opens with a robed, profusely bleeding "God" disemboweling itself, with the act ultimately ending in its death. A woman, Mother Earth, emerges from its remains, brings the dead body to arousal, and inseminates herself with its semen. Becoming pregnant, she wanders off into a vast and barren landscape. The pregnancy manifests in a fully grown convulsing man whom she leaves to his own devices.

The "Son of Earth" meets a group of faceless nomads who seize him with what is either a very long umbilical cord or a rope. The Son of Earth vomits organic pieces, and the nomads excitedly accept these as gifts. The nomads finally bring the man to a fire and burn him. "Mother Earth" encounters the resurrected man and comforts him. She seizes the man with a similar umbilical cord. The nomads appear and proceed to rape her. Son of Earth is left to mourn over the lifeless body.

A group of characters appear and carry Mother Earth to another place, where they dismember her, later returning for Son of Earth. After he, too, is dismembered, the group buries the remains, planting the parts into the crust of the earth. The burial site becomes lush with flowers. Grainy photographs of God Killing Himself are shown. In a final scene, "Mother Earth" and "Son of Earth" are seen again in a flashback, this time wandering through a forest.

literally what
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>>167708048
So scary.
Here, for you. This was actually made by Konami, its not fanmade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ht4dbyPIcM
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>>167708310
>>>/ic/
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>Mark of Chaos files
>data.ork
You cheeky cunts
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>>167664686
Antioch?
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>>167709016
FUCK I LOVE ANTIOCH SO FUCKING MUCH
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>>167669012
Its from some indie movie. I came across it on YouTube or something. Its meant to be one of the scariest movies ever made.
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Can't wait for Grail Chariots lads.
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>>167708314
>all those dislikes
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>>167701168
I hope so
>Ogre Maneaters end up bringing all the bits to mod in a bunch of crazy shit.

Can't wait.
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So what is the new Bretonnia roster?
I know about the 3 LL's and the first legendary Hero. What else is added? Is there a list?
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>>167704730
you get good
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>you will never live in Feudal Era Japan
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>>167711395
There is no list.
A magical support wagon.
Knights with Great weapons.
Shittier knights of the realm.
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>>167711395
legendary hero isn't confirmed yet. just that the green knight will be in the game in some form so all but confirmed.

But other than that.
>brand new unit
Hippogryph cav
>units we know
Battle Pilgrims
Questing Knights.
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>>167711959
The Grail Reliquae was shown too.
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>>167711959
>>167711395

>Green Knight is powerful as fuck but takes up 2 unit card slots

maybe like that
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Playing as VC and just about finished taking over Reikland. Got the initial Chaos invasion coming in from the north but they are not yet at war with me. Will the other factions finally ally and trade with me once Archaon himself shows up or will i be sandwiched between Chaos, Wood Elves and the forces of order if i keep expanding west?
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>>167711720
>You will never be killed by a samurai on the roadside just because he wants to try out his new katana
Why even live?
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>>167712820
Yeah that's true I thought it'd be a part of the battle pilgrims but it doesn't look like any of the units are carrying them.
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>THE AIR WAS FILLED WITH SMOKE AND BLOOD
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Anyone else have issues with Attila replays causing crashes? Happens with all of mine.
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Is there any non-dead mod that remove the vaseline from the soldiers in Shogun 2?
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>be hungarian knight
>ride out with your men-at-arms to face the new eastern threat
>camp for the night
>suddenly hear this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rmo3fKeveo

wat do?
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>>167714687
greet my fellow steppe horsefuckers brothers
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>>167713680
>using Katana instead of Naginata
Get the fuck out pleb
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>>167714687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4zm9L4rIGw

Bretty gud.
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>>167714771

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mohi

WHAT NOW
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>>167715167
wait it out until their leader dies ;^)
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>>167715167
savescum
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>>167714815
You are small time.
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Fucking Swedes think they can take on the might of Great Britain.
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MIDDENLAND WHEN?

MOUSILLON WHEN?

ANCIENT EMPIRES WHEN?

TOTAL WAR: CHINA WHEN?
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>>167715464
>when the spikes hit just right
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>>167715585
Fucking British think they can take on the might of Sweden.
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>>167711395
PEASANTS

PEASANT VARIANTS

KNIGHTS

KNIGHT VARIANTS

A MAGICAL SKELETON WAGON
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Is tomorrow finally the day?
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>>167716215
next week
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>100% ambush success chance
>ambush foiled
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>>167716215
What day?
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>try another Vampire counts game
>do better this time
>HOWEVER
>last time the Chaos invasion started around turn 90
>this time? Around turn 45

Explanations? I'm still not good at the game but I'm besieging Altdorf around turn 50, taken about half of the Empire, while before I screwed around with the dwarfs and turtled
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>>167716185
>Scandinavian Highlands
There is an alt history mod in a different genre with that.
My bad for offtopic.
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>>167716185
>that blob of blue in North Africa.

Afrika Korps?
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>>167716401
The Chaos invasion can happen earlier if you expand (relatively) quickly
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>>167716432
They literally lose it within 10 years of the game starting.
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>>167716401
It's to do with Chapters I believe. How far you are in your quest.

Reminder: Chaos Invasion is literally the prologue to Total War:Warhammer(even the campaign ending text implies it) in preparation for the madness to come in the 2 expansions.
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>>167716735
Also I hope there will be a faction ending cinematic for each faction when the third game releases as it will then be an actual campaign ending.
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>>167716696
No, Barbary Wars except the US was really fed up with their shit and decided to end it permanently.
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>>167716215
I think they would have prefaced it by hyping up the stream if it were the day, so no. Tomorrow will not be the day.
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>>167716914
Hahaha beautiful. I love that sort of shit in ETW.
The Mughals sailed an army into Europe to invade Portugal in my current campaign.
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>>167716696

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3VabkjGjoo
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>>167717759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6YL0AwWJQ4
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KATANA SAMURAI DE GOZAIMASU
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waitwaitwaitwait.
Age of Sigmar is a literal direct continuation from End Times? I thought it was like, an alternate timeline where Archaon was never crowned or something.

How do they continue on after the literal end of the world?
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>>167719143
*forms Yari Hen*
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>>167716735
If I slap Archaon's shit and meet the other "victory" conditions like controlling all the stunty and orc turf as Grimgor, does the campaign end?
Because I kinda want to trash all of the Old World before I go. Like, I REALLY want to set the Wood Elves' forest on fire.
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>>167713520
I've found that as VC, there's nothing souls can't fix.
I paid off the Dwarves, the Empire, and the Elves and got them all to ally me and help against Chaos, but they really didn't do much. Also Franz was in a constant dick-waving contest with Karak Kadrin for a while there. No idea what his problem was. Once the Dwarves under Thorgrim took Karak Kadrin in their confederation he was all hugs and smiles with them again.
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>>167719398
You can still play once you "win" the campaign
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>>167719789
Noice. Gonna raid the fuck out of everything. Does Archaon come back after you beat him once, or does Chaos kind of collectively shit itself and flee back to the waste?
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>>167719254
they fight in some astral bubble universe. >>167719398
A lot of achievements require you to play past victory to raze everything or play specifically for them.

Playing as Chaos and razing everything was actually kind of fun. especially when using an army that had armored chaos trolls as line infantry and dragon ogres as cavalry.
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>>167719895
Once you destroyed chaos after the final invasion (Archaon's) they do not come back.

But as the other anon said we'll probably have some later events to spice up late game once the expansions are released
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>>167720305
So I could hold up in the badlands, which I control all of, build up a massive WAAAGH! while Archaon is tearing through the north to get to me, and by the time he gets to me, he'll hit a green wall?
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>>167720305
well once they release the 4 armies of chaos demons , we will probably get some heavy shit
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>>167716735
So if I don't want to deal with Chaos early, I should just turtle and ignore the main quests?
Sounds a little daft
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>>167720416
yeah that's pretty much how you play greenskins
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Which games have the best campaign AI and battle AI?
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Is there any way to fix the [HIDDEN] trait that replaces the savage orc upkeep reduction trait when you confederate with Wurrzag?

I really wanted savage army in muh greenskins playthrough
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>>167717213
In this game I forgot the Maratha Confederacy was at war with me until they decided to land some troops in Iceland.
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How bad is Kemmler really? Would i be better off going for a Strigoi ghoul king?
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is there a /twg/ mod collection for attila that isn't just >radeous
pls
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>>167723768
He's like a vampire except without any of the good melee stats.
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>>167723768
Both of the vampire bloodlines are objectively superior in every way that matters.
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I miss the old days of bartering territory being an option in Diplomacy. My bros are holding a province I need, I can't confederate/satrapy/client state them, so must I prepare to make war?
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how do i deal with chaos dogs?

they are fast, they run around my troops and attack them in the back

they run away from my horses, they run away from my swords and my sticks

i don't like this
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>>167724356
>recruit handgunners
>commence the great hunt
>200 gold to the hunter with the most chaos dog pelts
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>>167724171
Send in agents to incite unrest. Wait for a rebellion, then stop your allies armies from putting it down, sabotage them with the agents if you have to. Wait for the rebels to take the city then grab it yourself.
Takes a while but its the only way i know of without warring them,
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>>167724171
if they are really your friends they will sue for peace after you take the city

>>167724686
i don't like handgunners because they need to stand in the front
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>>167680893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_i5hMAJ3c4
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>>167724831
It does remind me of the Ebdani campaign I did.
Basically, I compounded distrust with the Picts and Caledonians over the course of, like, 30 turns. It was boring waiting to get the war on, but kinda worth it in the end. AI wasn't doing shit to purge Jeebus from Britannia, and the High King's total rule of the British Isles made it a land of peace, where worship of banned pagan practices are tolerated. Problem was - the Picts and Caledonians had holdings in Mainland Europe by the point, and basically became a blight on Spain.

Also, the Huns basically sat around Ravenna, the last WRE settlement, in this big raid party. It was kinda funny because they outnumbered the WRE by a big-ass margin, but just sat there like a bunch of money-leeches. That campaign was so fucked.
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>>167725052
Nah, get melee troops, attach blood sausages to them, cover them in BBQ sauce. Then, when the chaos dogs attack them, assemble the handgunners on the flanks and lay into the chaos dogs with volley after volley. Watch the population be culled.
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>>167725669
>I compounded distrust with the Picts and Caledonians over the course of, like, 30 turns
how?
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>>167725960
I broke non-aggrssion pacts, trespassed, basically teased them into war.
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I like Total War.
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chaos dogs

help
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>>167727313
Guess my advice didn't work out?
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long time lurker here; just started a Wood Elves Archer only run on youtube, would appreciate some constructive criticism if any of you have a spare few minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz4t5IWOqow
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>>167725497
Larping is simultaneously the lamest and coolest thing ever.
Like, it's fucking lame, but it looks so fun. I want to see a bunch of BIG GUYS painted green plowing through those soldiers.
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>>167728216
>not serving the Chaos Gods in REAL.

enjoy being dictated by your puny sense of self-conscientiousness, mortal
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>>167725497
ugh, this is why we need drummers in our spearmen regiments
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>>167728216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUrYlD-HUmo
2:15
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>>167728791
drummers and state troops singing and marching when set to walk
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>>167728826
Oh my god.
That is SO LAME
but it looks SO MUCH FUN
Fuck, im conflicted
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>>167729170
I bet what's holding you back is how 'cringe' it looks. It definitely looks like everyone there is having fun and not caring about what anyone thinks of them, just LARPing to their hearts content
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>>167728826
>>167728930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp4n4xW1Qvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcpEY5KZ6Zc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IY0NfkNedk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn45LNYfsio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-HSIOLAHfs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkJIFyg5K_M
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>>167729409
That's part of it.
Also, I've got this kinda conflicting opinion. I respect that they made all that stuff, and I don't think I could do better, but some of it looks kinda shoddy. But I'm aware it's the best they could do, you know? So there's this weird conflict of "fuck that looks really low quality, but fuck that's kind of impressive that they made all that".

The Warboss (I think? I thought it was some sort of mountain giant until they started shouting Boss) is a good example of that. They put a lot of work into that, and I respect that, they're clearly in love with it and that's awesome and why it looks like so much fun. I'd never TELL them it looks shoddy, but there's a snob part in the back of my brain being an ass.
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>>167729690
Its not so much a quality thing as a limitations thing. The human frame is only so large and whenever you try to portray something larger than that, you get space marine cosplay syndrome, where everything looks like a child wearing adult clothes.
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>>167729935
Yeahyeahyeah, no, I get that, I really do, which is why I hate that I feel that way, because it's really not fair to them. I just can't shake that, you know?
It's not the first time a dumb feeling stopped me from having fun. I don't do much tabletop 40k despite enjoying painting orks because I'm shy.
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>>167730259
Everyone feels that way about, its just you realize that everyone else ignores and focuses on having a good time, and so you start to go along with it.
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>>167698478
why does that horse have goat eyes?
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>>167731071
Because she's the genetic result of decades of filthy peasants inbreeding.
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>they still wear muscle cuirasses

LMAO WHAT A BUNCHA FAGS! WHAT'S WRONG, CAN'T AFFORD MAIL?
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>>167731071
that's what horse eyes look like m8
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>>167731071
beastman sleeper agent
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>>167731071
That eye type is common with a lot of grazing land animals. Supposedly gives them a wider field-of-view to sot predators. I think deer have those kinds of eyes too?
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srs tho guise, any mods that make mail in R2 not look like complete ass?
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>>167731437
Did you just assume that armor's gender?
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>>167698323
>ywn be a qt dark elf girl who owns a harem of human slave girls
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>>167731625
>ywn be a savage Warboss who bashes all the warring greenskin tribes together and raids the everloving fuck out of everything that ain't green
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>>167731481
wot m8?
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>>167731713
>ywn be a man sized rat that totally doesn't exist and is simply a heretical concept made up by deranged peasants throughout the empire
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oh no the romans are coming wtf do i do?
is it possible to clean up these jaggies?
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>>167731906
Stinking rat-vole-rodent piece of trash!
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Holy shit. Empire's been busy in Reikland.
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you guys werent kidding about those fukkin wood elves huh
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>>167697484
>Tree Kin/Treeman
>Lore of Beasts ward Saves from Durthu
>Lore of Life healing on trees
lmaoing at u r damage output
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>>167733118
nope
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>>167731986
all you can really do is kinda hide it. crank up the contrast, hit it with a bloom filter to blur the edges, and add a DOF effect to hide the stuff in the background.
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>>167731986
>>167733782
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OI STUNTIES!
'OW'S DIS MAKE YA FEEL?
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>>167731986
fugg i got my shit kicked in by the romani
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>>167733782
I hear ya. i was hoping something i could do during gameplay, but i'll see if i've got what it takes to clean up my screens

Man, this game was a disappointment, visually. DeI is alright tho. I haven't had this much fun playing TW since warhams first came out.
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Jesus christ. Fuck these VC quests with a rake.
>Send and deploy a vampire somewhere on the other side of the world
>Send a necromancer and a banshee there as well
>No, you can't use the vampire that's already there! Use a banshee!
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>>167734750
>Greenskins
>use a hero to assassinate a hero from another greenskin tribe
>I've already bashed all the other greenskins into me WAAAGH! before I noticed the quest

Well, zog.
There's still those blood spear boys up north. Hope the stunties ain't got em.
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>>167734206
I like this.
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>>167734686
don't use steam to take screenshots, its auto-jpeg compression is absolutely terrible for total war. the free version of FRAPS lets you take bitmap screenshots. use paint/paint.net/gimp/photoshop/whatever to convert to jpeg instead
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So. I played some Attila. It had been a while.

Holy shit, I swear I won't talk shit about Warhammer ever again.
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>>167735820
sup reddit
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>>167735820
kys faggot
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>>167735820
May boils burst thy scrotum!
>>
If you had to go on a pub crawl with any three legendary lords, knowing at the end you'd have to duke it out with the four legendary lords (Also of your choice) if you survive, what lords would you pick.
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>>167736078
>>167736104
>>167736190

Hello, Attila defense force

>Buildings get damaged after a single turn of siege
>They still get damaged even if they attack right away and you win the battle
>Every single one
>Armies can walk for fucking kilometers and kilometers bypassing all your guarded settlements and attacking the undefended ones from fog of war in the same turn
>Short as fuck battles, everything dies like it's made of paper
>Ranged units have 2 arrows or 2 javelins, run out of missiles right away
>Armies retreating on the other side of the map, literally impossible to follow
>Retarded generals staying away from main army, literally snipeable by cavalry in every battle
>Retarded siege AI attacking 1 front
>Able to defend a settlemen with 4 units against a 20

I could go on
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>>167735820
Fuck off cunt attila has more depth then warhammer. Haven't played nearly same hours on warhammer as I did for attila
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>>167680868
This
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>never played total war before
>tutorial campaign is clearly trying to tell me to retreat against 3 armies but fight anyways
>over 80% of my skelly bros don't make it

wew, thank god for giant bat monster
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>>167737102
Most of those apply to Warhammer as well. You spend most of the time chasing enemy armies who refuse to fight you. I honestly wish Warhammer had more defensive siege battles despite the shitty battle maps but it just never happens since the AI has no balls to siege and attack anything
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>>167738023

While I kinda agree, I sort of can end up catching up with the enemy armies in Warhammer. Use the Block Army agent ability before the first attack and the enemy won't be able to retreat much if not at all.

Heck I tried to play 3 games of Attila today and no matter how much I blocked or ambushed the Ostrogoths they just fuck off to the other side of the map in 1 turn or retreat behind a mountain.

About the sieges, I completely agree
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>>167738023
Yeah I played 20 hours of Warhammer so far and didn't fight a single defensive siege yet

They always try to starve me out for 10 turns so that I can send an an army half way across the campaign map and fuck them up with the garrison reinforcing

Generally I really wish the game had more depth, there isn't much going on
I feel like I will keep playing this only because I have a soft spot for fantasy Warhammer and I got a shit ton of hours in the good Total Wars
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>>167737641
I hope you gave it a name.
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>>167737641
Don't worry about those skelly bros anon, they are just sleeping in the ground for a bit. All it takes is a sprinkly of magic and they are back together as good as new.
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>>167738678
Generally the AI will attack right before you start starving. They build their siege equipment before they begin the siege.
>>
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=858213115


This map.
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=855426115

What else do you guys think I should add to the mod?
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Dragon Ogre Shaggoth or Chaos giant?
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>>167739760
Eternal Guard (Grenade Launchers)
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>>167739760
a building that give big bonus to income becaose I am tired of play elves with money problem

also is it compatible wit radiuos?
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>people aren't excited by the release of the battle map editor
I mean its not a lot right now, but the possibilities are too tantalizing to ignore
webm related
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>>167737102
>Buildings get damaged after a single turn of siege
you know that a turn is several months right?
>They still get damaged even if they attack right away and you win the battle
damage is tiny in that case
>Armies can walk for fucking kilometers and kilometers bypassing all your guarded settlements and attacking the undefended ones from fog of war in the same turn
are you complaining that the AI picks a weaker settlement to attack? build walls then
>Short as fuck battles, everything dies like it's made of paper
literally longer battles than most other tw titles when you get to mid/late game, shogun 2 had shorted battles, so do warhammer and rome2, the only thing that made med2 battles longer is the slow as fuck walking speed
>Ranged units have 2 arrows or 2 javelins, run out of missiles right away
you are literally lying, the lowest tier roman archer has 14, only skirmishers have small ammo pools, which makes sense do you think they carried fucking hundreds of spears to toss at people?
>Armies retreating on the other side of the map, literally impossible to follow
happens rarely due to terrain, its kinda a bug, basically if the AI is retreating and there is impassable terrain behind it, its range extends to get behind that terrain, kinda shitty I agree with that
>Retarded siege AI attacking 1 front
lying, it almost always picks at least 2
>Able to defend a settlemen with 4 units against a 20
true in every single total war game, in fact in med2 I could defend against any attack with one peasant unit, by movign him into the inner keep
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Fuck damn France. The Crusades are over man, you didn't have to do it.
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>>167740676

It always crashes for me, I'll have to wait until they release the full one at the end of Feb which works on Win7
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>>167740797
>"crimea is ours"
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Is it worth investing in the leader trait that decreases stamina consumption rates for chaos in TW:W? It sounds like it could be really good but since it doesn't give an actual numerical value for the effect it is hard to tell if it's actually worth investing 3 points into.
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AWOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>167740087

Giant
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>>167740274
>>167740448
p-pls no bully.
It should be compatible with radious.
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>>167741446
Why? What're the advantages?
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>>167741446
>>167740087
I'd pick shaggoth every day
It has a huge speed advantage, and if I'm not mistaken, also has a bonus vs large, which makes it perfect against enemy cav even if they have a numerical superiority
That and they look amazing
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>>167741195
yes it is a must have, especially since most of the chaos units are heavy and slow
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>>167738885
Different player, but my original Varghoul is still going strong and winning battles singlehandedly. I called him Fluffy.
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>TEB building addon that allows you to specialize a settlement as either a military settlement or a economic settlement.
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Rollan
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>>167743007

WELCOME TO ESTALIA GENTLEMEN
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>>167665547
>>167666062
>conquering city that isn't province capital
Enjoy your public order
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Is today the day?
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>>167706480
>tfw no Total War: Be Genghis Khan and burn down China
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>faggots are actually mad that CA is adding an OC unit
Why? If anything, Bretonnia can use even more of them, stuff like dishonored knigts or squires, brigands with vanguard deployment, or even war hounds would be awesome.
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>>167744331

>>faggots are actually mad that CA is adding an OC unit

Wait, who?

In these threads?

I thought there was more or less unanimous agreement that the tabletop roster was far too anemic.
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is there to stop Chaos invasions? or at least destroy the Varg and Skaelings? they don't do any serious damage, but they keep outrunning my armies and are SO. FUCKING. ANNOYING.
also chaos corruption.
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>>167744331
>>167744427

They should be happy they're getting anything new for their literally who faction who no one even played in TT.

This is basically their own special 8th edition units which they never got.
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>>167744924
is there A WAY, i mean.

since they are Horde factions, they don't have cities and stuff, right?
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>>167744924

You can get rid of Varg and Skaelings by just going to Norsca and wiping out all their settlements.

Watch out for attrition

>>167745219

Chaos is a horde so you just need to keep killing them until they stop coming.

Keep in mind that they'll spawn indefinitely until the cutscene for the "Final, actual, for-real-now" Chaos Invasion Event happens.

You'll know when it is because the Chaos stacks will be lead by Legendary Lords instead of generic lords
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>>167723768
He gives you extra levels for your necromancers when stationed in a province that has the means to recruit necromancers.
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>>167723768

>Would i be better off going for a Strigoi ghoul king?

Mechanically? For sure.

But it's not like this game is so hard that you can't afford to have a stack lead by a slightly sub-par lord.

Personally I always get Kemmler just for the voice-acting.

If you haven't played his quest battles he's worth it for those as well.
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>>167729170
>>167728216

As someone who has done his fair share of LARPing I can confirm that it is, in fact, fucking fun as hell.

Once you're in it you more or less become blind to the lame fakery
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>>167725497
>>167728538
>>167728826
>>167729409
/twg/ larp when?
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>>167744331
I HOPE the only reason some people are mad, is that instead of new, unexpected, never seen before units, they are getting a knight on a hyppo

>bretonnian peasants w/ warhounds never
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>>167701168
Mark my words. When the Ogre Kingdoms finally hit the shelves, and if CA will allow for other factions to recruit them as mercenaries, then the top mods for them will include these kind of things https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Ogre_Kingdoms#Crunch

You know you want this.
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>>167745186
There is a list though which shows that Bretonnia was the 5 or 6th most played race in TT.
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>>167746468

That list isn't reliable at all.

What it actually shows is a poll from a single Warhammer website about how many people (from that website) had an army collected of each race

I mean, it's better data than no data at all, but it should be taken with a big ol' teaspoon of salt none-the-less
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Do we get a stream today?
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>>167743007
Vlad von Carstein
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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary lord for the Empire when?
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>>167747483
hopefully never
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We have surpassed nagash~~
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>>167747812
>2 black coaches
LaughingNagash.png
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>>167747812

>that army composition

dude.
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>>167747812
>losing the moot
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talking of Moot, why are there no halfling units? Moot should be its own country, like other provinces, and have its own units.
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>>167747812

>Black Coach
>TWO Black Coach

Oh

My

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
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>>167713701
It's probably:
Battle Pilgrims
Battle Pilgrims (Grail Reliquae)
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>>167747871
>>167748097
Am i the only one who thinks black coach is good?
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>>167748493
Doubt. It'll probably just be a separate "chariot" unit
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>>167748731

Probably.
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>>167714687
greet them and destroy the germ menace together
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>Map creator isn't even done
>Been out for like a week
>Community already putting out shit like this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=858185291

It can't even 'technically' do siege maps, and people are still making siege maps that are miles better than what CA has managed to make.
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>>167673036
Why would anyone be interested in an unlosable campaign?
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>>167696669
Beastmemes are the most unfinished faction.

Chaos actually a solid roster, just their campaign mechanics are dick.
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>>167673036
Vamps are gay, play Beastmen.
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>>167696669
>picking a mini campaign from Attila
lmao, everyone knows AoC is barebones
>>
>Speaking to Eurogamer, CA's Rob Bartholomew said the next Total War (currently in pre-production) will take place in "an era we haven't tackled yet", with creative director Mike Simpson driving the point home: "Yes… It's not something we've done before."
r.i.p medieval 3, we can only hope for 1212
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>>167750165
>Stone Age Total War
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>>167750165
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>>167750194
That'll rustle the jimmies of some creationists
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>>167750213
no anime on /twg/
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>charging shock cav directly at a phalanx

why are rebels so desperate
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>>167750165
>there are people that want the next TW to be WW1
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>>167749747
Are there mods that improve Chaos?

Are there any good thorough mods, not just cosmetics and stuff?

Radious has 5 stars on the workshop and I don't know who I believe anymore
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>>167750329
Reminder that because CA referred anime, hence animeposting is permissible in /twg
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>>167750368
I love WW1, studying it for my phd, but fuck damn is it a terrible setting for a TW game.
I'm hoping for pike and shot.
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>>167750368
>>167750664
>play as germans
>gas the whole world while never actually leaving your starting region
>then just go and colonize all the ruins
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>>167750950
>be everyone else
>piss on a rag and cover faces
>steamroll Germany
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>>167751024
Did someone say piss?
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>>167750950
>play as germans
>starve
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As person who only recently got into Total Wars, I must say the games are really cool. There are only three things that could improve it:
1) greater city modification. Knights of Honour may be a knock-off of TW, but its city development is brilliant
2) deeper political/economical system. something along the lines of Crusader Kings II / Europa Imperialis / etc.
3) no period or region separation. would it be so hard to merge all those parts into one massive, Iron Age till Napoleon (or even later), progression? Like Civilization, a bit.
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>>167740797
Dammit Hapsburg
You had five jobs: prevent T*rk, Frank, Pole, Prussian, and Russian
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>>167740797
Crusades are never over. DEUS VULT!
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>don't like DeI, too cluttered and the supply system is retarded
>People of Rome keeps crashing my game even though I don't use unit mods
>Vae Victus is shit
>Ancient Empires will never, ever be released

fuck this I'll just go back to Caesar 3 or some shit. Caesar 3 meets Tropico meets TW:A would be my dream game

also
>Europa Perdita is retardedly balanced
>can't use its cosmetic changes seperately

I wanna die
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greenskins are fun
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>>167751649
>1) greater city modification. Knights of Honour may be a knock-off of TW, but its city development is brilliant
sure, the series has gotten worse at this with R2
>2) deeper political/economical system. something along the lines of Crusader Kings II / Europa Imperialis / etc.
yeah, the improved politics made attila MUCH better than it would have been otherwise
>3) no period or region separation. would it be so hard to merge all those parts into one massive, Iron Age till Napoleon (or even later), progression? Like Civilization, a bit.
literally kill yourself
closest the series came to this was Empire, and it suffered for it
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>>167750656
what anime
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>>167751912
Boku no pico
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Oi, people.

First campaign, playing as VC, is there any way to reduce/slowdown Chaos corruption?
Things in Sylvannia are ok, but in the territories around it chaos grows steadily.

Not too much into the game, btw, ~50.
Also, is bretty easy, only the green skins give me trouble from time to time. They go rape the dwarfs and eventually chill in my lands.
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>>167751649
>1) greater city modification. Knights of Honour may be a knock-off of TW, but its city development is brilliant
>2) deeper political/economical system. something along the lines of Crusader Kings II / Europa Imperialis / etc.

Attila is probably the most indepth game for all that shit out of the series.
Granted it still hasn't got a very indepth political/economical system
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>>167751687
France blitzed straight east in that campaign. Don't know why but they went to war with the Ottomans like turn 5 and then burnt down everything in their way til they got there.
Austria down to that one province, with Warsaw and they're about to get demolished by Russia or Poland.
Proto America just declared war on Prussia for no reason, dragging me into war with them. But they're down to just Berlin and I'm gonna move in next turn.
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>>167752043
3d campaign map was a mistake
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When will they make the announcement for the next total war?
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>>167752038
Most races focus on reducing corruption, but VC need to crank up the Vampiric corruption to combat chaos corruption.
More balefire braziers in every settlement that can spare the building space. It boosts local corruption, and boosts corruption in surrounding provinces, and the more vampiric corruption you have, the less chaos corruption you have.
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>>167752247
Late 2018
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>>167752247
Next warhammer game, probably a month or two after Brets
Next historical game, who knows
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https://www.pcgamesn.com/total-war-warhammer/total-war-warhammer-bretonnia-release-date

"Bretonnia will also receive three playable Legendary Lords for campaign mode: the hippogryph-riding King Louen Leoncouer; Alberic of Bordeleaux, who dreams of seeking the Grail but is bound by duty to his dukedom; and the kingdom’s sorceress-in-chief, the Fay Enchantress.

The faction is yours for free on February 28. "

How pumped are we boys?
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>>167752393
Inb4 Enchantress is another Gelt/Kemmler
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>>167752393

Kinda hyped to see Alberic and potentially a fleshed out Mousillon.
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>>167752454
They're fine with radious
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>>167752469
Grace said that Mousillon isn't coming along with Bretonnia on kikebook.
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>>167752589

So who could be the new VC lord then?

>inb4 that faggot konrad
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>>167752663
It is probably still The Red Duke, he just is coming at a later date.
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>>167752393
>Hippogryph Cavalry available to them.

Betting particularly veteran Grail Knights are riding those things.

>>167752454
Nope. Every new legendary lord after the base game is quite unique.

>>167752469
Well it's good that characters who had little stuff doing around in the lore are getting the spotlight in the game.

>>167752589
>>167752663
>>167752696
Mousillion will probably be a playable faction along with Middenheim if the rumors are true about the Old Friend DLC.

Though we need to wait on how will that be in reality.
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>>167752092
Shameful
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>>167752393
I'm really hyped on Alberic. Hopefully they'll give him a unique look.
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>>167752663
what's wrong with Konrad?
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>>167752393
who the realms of chaos is Alberic? he didn't even have a mini. why not that guy with axe?
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>>167753468
We already have 2 Carsteins we don't need a third.
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>>167751912
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann ?
>>167752296
Yeah, I'n trying that, but even with braziers and and some heroes the chaos corruption goes up by1/2% every turn.
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>>167753652
>Vampire Counts' units in the game are the ones corresponding to Von Carstein bloodline
>based in Sylvania
nothing but Von Carsteins make sense for them. Kemmler has nothing to do with Sylvania, and should be part of Mousillion roster, if any
and Horst is literally nobody
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>>167753848
Ghorst.

And not quite since he started as a flavor text in the Corpse Cart entry.
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>>167753848
That's why they're not going with Konrad; because he's another Sylvania VC. It makes more sense to do someone else and give them a unique starting position.
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https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/829328944377716737

Multiplayer stream.

No Bretonnia in sight.
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>>167754184
It makes more sense move Kemmler out and give Sylvania Konrad
he was a character in fluff and he had a mini. he deserves to be in the game
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How do I get good at Fall of the Samurai?

Is it possible to expand faster than a snail's pace without fucking my settlements over? Everyone is fucking pissed between modernisation, allegiance differences, and other bullshit, and I only have 3 provinces.
Making money is also slow as hell, line infantry is quick to make, but it's so prohibitively expensive that I can't push out enough of them if I want to expand, and levy spearmen suck dick.

Buildings are also stupidly expensive. I never have enough money to upgrade them, so my tech researches and I get modernisation faster than I can upgrade buildings and train agents to offset the unhappiness.

I don't understand. It's like they threw on a pile of bullshit to slow down the game. I never had any problems with discontent in vanilla until I had like 50 provinces.
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>>167753652
2bh I don't really see a problem with including all the lords possible in game
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>>167754396
> levy spearmen suck dick.
But they don't.
They'll suck ass against samurai sure, but they'll kick the shit out of enemy levy and line infantry once you get them close enough.
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>>167753621
Because Bretonnia doesn't have that many lords in their existing 10 year old army book so they went back to the third edition to grab a few old lords like Alberic so that Bretonnia would have two starting positions.

The modus operandi of CA at this point seems to be that every faction should have at least two starting positions. This of course doesn't seem to entirely apply to free content since dwarfs don't have a free second starting position but with the release of Brets as a free faction this means that all free/base game factions except dwarfs will each have two starting positions for a total of nine starts for people who only buy the base game. Sequel will have at least 8 starting positions for the four starting factions.
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>Autoresolve a battle that's 95% in my favor
>Lose 2 full rank 9 graveguard units
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>>167754692
but there's that Teodoric or Tancred of whatever his name guy. with the axe. he had a mini even.
>>
>Finally subscribe to HB monthly and got TW:W
>is on 3g and already reached data cap
no flooding the battlefield with waves of green meat till weekend for me
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>>167754396
I got through most the game only on revy infantry because I somehow convinced myself they were the standard infantry type.
Just rush cannons and you can do whatever you want.
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>>167754891

>He doesn't have an unlimited dataplan

lmao

lmao

LMAO
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>>167754631
>>167754897
I'm not really having trouble winning battles, my economy is just fucked.
I'll try the cannon rush though, thanks
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update on my campaign lads

seleucids are getting pretty wrecked but they still got a ton of soldiers

at the beginning of the invasion they had 23 stacks now they have about 16 so rough estimate around 20,000 seleucids killed so far

carthage theatre they have 1 garrisoned army left and 12,000 stuck in sardinia
>>
what if they make Total Wars for more fantasy settings?
>Witcher Total War
>Eberron Total War
>Diablo Total War
>Total Warcraft
>Might & Magic Total War

or even move into space
>Total Warhammer 40k
>Starcraft Total War
>Mass Effect Total War
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>>167755415
no fuck off
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>>167755415
yeah that's never going to happen and would never work anyway. LOTR would be awesome, using the new lord system/monsters/magic but I think a mod has that covered hopefully.
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>>167755415
>or even move into space


Wouldn't be Total War.
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>>167755415
fuck off you gaycunt
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>>167754184
Neferata/Lamia start position when?
>>
Currently dominating the Dawi as Grimgor. They've sued for peace at least four or five times, and I'm thinking of accepting their peace, but demanding an exhorabant amount of gold. Then, when they turn around, hit 'em really REALLY hard.

Seems like something Mork would approve of, yeah? Dunno if it's kunnin' enough to not seem cowardly for the Orcs though.
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>>167755776
would be tricky to implement. Silver Pinnacle is in ruined Karak, so they'd either need to be able to conquer Dwarf settlements, or start far away from anything conquerable. and if they can conquer Dwarfs - what next? let them conquer humans? Lahmians will need two types of cities then - some that can only be occupied by dwarfs and others that can only be occupied by humans/carsteins... can the engine manage that?
also their strength lies in political intrigue, they normally don't wage open war
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>>167755646
lol
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>>167756240
It's true though.

>Hammer and anvil on soldiers moving in tight formations in Mass Effect
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>>167755646
replace towns with planets
it's still jsut a reskin
>>
These fucking cock sucking dwarves keep banding together and over running me in like 15 turns when I play as green skins. Do I just spam goblin archers to counter all the ranged units they use? Motherfuckers even corner camp it's so stupid.
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>>167756341
>Only talks about the campaign map

Every time. Every time with these stupid "idea" people.
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>>167755415
>total warcraft
>a stack of 20 heroes rapes everything
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>>167756347
dunno, but AI greenskins ripped AI dwarfs a new one in my current campaign
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>>167756419
I meant actual Warcrafts, not WoW
since Warcraft IV is never coming *sniff*
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>>167756347
Bum rush the Dwarfs with Grimgor and confederate spam with other Greenskin factions. Farm a waagh up if you need more/better troops but can't afford them.
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>>167756325
>conveniently picking the one setting where it would be hard to do

Starcraft is already like that and 40k has battles in big open fields too, since it's space fantasy and runs on rule of cool. Order of war had the right depiction for the scale that could be involved.
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>>167756585
They rarely have battles that play out as the battles in total war games.


It will never happen anyway.
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>>167756557
But we already have the better version of that.

Do you really want to suck blizzards cock that badly?
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>>167756716
what has that to do with blizzard's cock? The setting used to be cool. Races & factions ain't half bad. It has potential as a global strategy.
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>>167755415
ELDER SCROLLS MOTHERFUCKER
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>>167756932
ohhhh yesssss. that'd be perfect.
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>>167756585
>Order of War
How is it? I see it goes for about $2 during sales, and I think I played the demo a long time ago
>>
>>167757083
Not really my thing as I usually either go closer with games like coh/men of war or play wargame RD but it's not so bad. Can't really go wrong with that price anyway, might as well try it out.
>>
Dogbert confirmed no bret news on stream. Everyone go home.
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>>167757242
MP is fun


So is custom maps
>>
I have 700 hours in Warhammer, and I picked up Shogun 2 just now. I tried Fall of the Samurai and found out I'm not that slick, so how should I go about starting my next campaign? Is there anything I should keep in mind that is drastically different from how Warhammer plays? My friend wants to play with me, so I want to get a basic grasp of the differences in units/gameplay before we start.
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>>167757242

>Not watching CA playing a bunch of maps that are much better designed than anything in the actual game
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>>167757771
A lot of the newer quest maps are really cool looking though. Also Black Fire Pass.
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>>167757242
>no bret news
At least a new KonoSuba comes out today. Why are Wednesdays always so disappointing?
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>>167755415
how about
>Elric Total War?
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>>167758006
>At least a new KonoSuba comes out today

Oh, that's right.
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>>167757853

>Really cool looking
>"Looking"

There's the keyword

The people putting together the visual assets are doing an A+ job, but the maps are almost uniformly just fucking flat plains with maybe an outcrop or plateau thrown in

Meanwhile, on the workshop pic related is happening
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>>167758030
>roflstomp whole campaign with single angsty superhero
naah, it'd be boring
>>
>>167758030

Go home Razorfist
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>>167758062
I don't like how barren it is. It's barely a city. Not much you can do about that I guess.
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>>167758062
they always have all the cool looking stuff outside the bounds of the map. it's look don't touch
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>>167758030
Aren't Warhammer's Dark Elves pretty much Elric's empire?
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>>167758062
>>167758239
>>167758250

its pretty fucking neat t b h
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTxQxgDDAb4

>we could have had sieges like this instead of the horrible ones we have now

fucking ca
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>>167758167
>Go home Razorfist
not until I tell you how Witcher,Warcraft, andWarhamer ripped off Elric.

>>167758147
>angsty superhero
he's the first though so it's fine.
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>>167755415
Hyboria: Ttotal War might work as a mod; Pretty much Bronze Age with some magic.
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>>167758324
ya I saw the video too. it's a pretty cool map.
though if we have them in the campaign we're gonna need AI that isn't brain dead.
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So I guess it's impossible to unlock the DLC for Warhammer without paying for it huh?
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>>167758353
first or not, he's still boring as fuck. I'm good at tuning out later variation to enjoy the origins of cliches, but Elric was supremely boring
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>>167758239

Fitting the entirety of what Talabheim is actually supposed to be into a Total War map would be a tall order.

It's literally 1000 times better than what is supposed to stand in for Talabheim in the CA map.
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>>167758524
wha?
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I seem to struggle in mid game for my war hammer legendary campaigns. Normally first few turns I continually sack a nearby settlement to level up my hero/leader, should I not be doing that and jus focus on a bunch of different settlements? My current dwarf game was going going well until a 4 stack vampire army popped out from the mountains to fuck me
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>>167758616
Like in CK II

You can just pirate all DLC.

I am asking if it's possible for TW Warhammer.

Because fuck giving those jews even more money.
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>>167758846
no
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>>167758846
>calls others Jewish
>while acting like a stingy kike

Every time.
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>>167758553
But that is also what makes Terry such a great thing to better CA content down the line. I expect to see a lot of map improvements next installment because they know what we want.

More unique settlements especially the more prominent cities and karaks (maybe even the Middenhiem canon that requires a giant to load). Larger maps to do more positioning/advancing decisions and help out artillery. Putting the crazy landscape of warhammer on the map instead right outside it. Settlement fights.

Warhams was a proof of concept to prove Sega will make money on it and they did it. It is a good game but if there are not massive improvements down the line there is no excuse.
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>>167759078

>there is no excuse.

Oh you just watch

I imagine it'll go something like "Our AI is too retarded to comprehend these big, fun maps."
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first time poster thanks to Humblebundle for tw:w,

tried VC and all was well including chaos waves,
but then wood elves appear and rofltomp me
with stacked armies and heroes on par if not better than chaos waves, what gives ?

also i don't fully understand if radious mods are reccomended or a meme.. .hmhm....... ??
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>>167750656

No fucking way this is real
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>>167759194

The woodelf AI is overly aggressive right now, you need to either make an effort to deal with them early, placate them with money so they don't attack you, or stack up like mad so you can deal with them.

And Radious is a complete meme

It's terrible.
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>>167752038

Also use agents. Every single agents always gives at least passive + 2 vamp corruption. You can boost them with experience, vampires are pretty good at that.

Some unique items give +5 vamp corruption as well. But you should rely mostly on balefire buildings.
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>>167759194
Radious is good,just don't get the units
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>>167759194
>Mel Gibson and Tree Hitler wrecking everything as the Wood Reich for no good reason

Welcome to patch 5, you have a few more weeks of it.
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>>167759558
The campaign rebalance is fucking atrocious.
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>>167759558

Fuck no, don't listen to this gaylord
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>>167759675
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG IT
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>>167759987

It's dumb and gay and so are you.
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>>167759987
>>167759558
Yeah, Radious from 6 years ago. Never use Radious post-2012.
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>>167758524
Are you the idiot from the last thread who deduced that pirating DLC is easy because...you can't find any info on how to do it on the internet?
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>>167759987
The units are stupid, not in the lore and most importantly bad for the game. Since R2 his shtick has been "Give everyone everything". I still remember a playthrough I did on Atilla for S&G where I had better heavily armored infantry as the Tan-new-kids than ERE.

Oh and in campaign reduce upkeep costs to the point where maintaining armies is trivial so resource management is little more than a roleplay option.

Its shit m8, its been shit for years m8, and is attractive to the lowest common denominator.
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>>167751972
gee, are you sure its not Natsuyasumi nor Otokonoko Delivery?
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>>167754808
CA doesn't care about your favorite lord
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>>167754338
I see that too. Konrad would be a good tanker, but I'd also love Abhorash and him having a lot of bonuses that revolve around Blood Knights while he himself is a close-combat monster.

>>167756032
That, or make the Lahmia gameplay somewhat similar to Wood Elves/Chaos Factions mechanically-wise.

As in the Karak has 20 building slots and is one building.

Lahmia and Neferata, despite being still competent combatants, would have to utilize stealth and deception, as well as political manipulations.

In her faction's case the actual win would be a political one where you take control of everyone by making them your puppets.
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Playing TW:Warhammer makes me think that Ubisoft should just give up the Might and magic license so we can one day see TW: Might and Magic
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>>167756557
>still caring about Warcraft 4

It's hard to tell whether you're an 18 year old that picked up WC3 and praises it so you can claim to be better than your peers or a 30 year old that can't just accept the game you liked when you were a teenager is dead and has been dead since WOW came out over a decade ago
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>>167759183
We should test out these maps with the AI to see how they do
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>>167750656
Gurren Lagann is shit though
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>>167760473
So don't download the unit submod and use a submod that increases unit upkeep
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>>167761386
apathy and acceptance is for the weak. hope shall never be lost.
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>>167761492
Then why even download the mod? What is left that is so worthwhile?
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>>167760815
Not the same anon but Tancred II of Quenelles would have been at least the best known and most written about option for the 3rd LL slot. He even has a DEEP HATRED FOR KEMMMLER and he and his father are responsible for driving him off hundreds of years ago.

With Alberic all is known is that Bordeleux is a boisterous and bibulous town and Alberic hates the living shit out of it. He himself being extremely self disciplined and very likely a dry man. That discipline is reflected by his knights under him.

If there is no special building for the worship of Manann thats kind of a bummer since its a huge thing in Bordeleaux

>>167761492
if you are gutting the pillars of his mod philosophy why bother with it, do SFO or something.
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>>167761205
>>167756032
CA will just "play" with the lore and say that Neferata is back in the ruined city of Lahmia plotting against the Tomb Kangz once the Land of the Dead DLC gets released

Vampires get another starting position and Tomb Kings have more to fight than reskinned imperials in Araby and savage orcs dicking around.

Especially important since the Kangz main enemies are supposed to be vampires but the vampires are otherwise way up in the old world.
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>>167761386
>>167756557
Warcraft 4 will be a HORRIBLE mess since WoW bloated the storyline way too much.

>Arthas dead
>Burning Legion leaders getting killed off for third time now
>80% of original leaders dead
>Thrall stepped down and decided to breed some mullatos
>Pandas
>demon hunters and paladins everywhere
>space goats
>old gods killed off

Only thing you can do is NAGAS i guess so they summon demons for you to kill for the fourth time
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>>167761653
Kemmler is over in Sylvania so there would be no point to adding Tancred.
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>>167761689
>reskinned imperials in Araby

BY SIGMAR NO!!

I want CA to actually make a NPC faction that isn't a reskin.

I want them to even invite people from GW to help them make the rest of the nations for TWW because why the fuck should we fight Araby that is in fact the Empire?

>>167761807
Thus the only reason would be retconning WoW into an alternative timeline and starting from where TFT finished.

Something that will never happen since Blizzard would this way prove that they were wrong.
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>>167761807
Except you forgot the part where the entire lore of the whole Warcraft series from game to game just asspulls new, previously unknown enemies and new, previously unknown allies to fight each other

So this time they'll have the Titans come to destroy Azeroth because fuck you it attracts demons and shit and then good guys will have to be morally grey and kill god to save their planet. Because why the fuck not?

>Arthas dead

But then we find out that ner'zhul became a wandering spirit released from the helm of the dead after arthas died and he is now possessing the body of the lich kel-thuzad and assembling a new army of spooky people to do spooky stuff
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>>167761979
I'm still not convinced the Bretonnia deserves to be a separate faction, since it's still generic humans, just like Empire, and you want more generic humans somehow made original?
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>>167761979
Best thing that could happen to WoW would be Burning Legion destroying the universe and survivors running to different Azeroth (maybe the one from WoD) and reboot it all.
Not to mention they did hire a writer to make such thing for them before.

http://wow.gamepedia.com/Thrall:_Twilight_of_the_Aspects

But yeah Blizz is too scared to risk it like this.
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>>167762083
You cannot have good game if you dont have good characters to stick with you.
And "new" ones sucked big time lately.
That Draenei mary sue paladin from WoD was only good for raping.
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>>167761979
Because Araby is an NPC faction so CA doesn't care about making them special. It's the same reason why the Vampire coast will probably be in game but will have the same roster as the main vampire faction and so on.

CA have created a bestselling game with a shoestring budget and rather than truly invest in making the game be all it can be are instead finding new and creative ways to continue creating cheap DLC for maximum profit.

King and Warlord is widely beloved because it adds new starting positions, but what people forget is the fact that each race only had one starting position in the beginning anyway was completely fucking stupid.
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>>167761861
He's in the game, Vampires are a human problem including Bretonnia. He has more of a story to him than Alberic the NoName. Not even a pure blank slate to do with whatever they pleased, but maybe Alberic will be alright but its not the expected choice for a 3rd LL is all I'm saying there were better known, better written options.
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>>167761621
Longer battles,better magic,diplomacy and more skill points
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>>167762331
Which are all things that other mods do better, so there is literally no reason to use Radious.
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>>167762285
CA at least seems to have admitted that single starting positions was a stupid idea.
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>>167762462
such as
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>>167762331
SFO does all that and better. Some will bitch about stronger garrisons but with Beastmen and WoC I cleared that shit out on VH. Also makes the cheap units easier to maintain and the expensive units more expensive which is a nice touch.
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>>167762103
Well even the generic humans aren't so generic.

The Empire has some crazy variety in fluff and cruch.

Bretonnia would need some more stuff. They never got something new for a long time. The Hippogryph Cavalry regiment is a good step forwards.

Also Cathay has literal living Terracotta Soldiers while Araby includes Djinns. And don't get me started with Kislev that has bears, mammoths and ice wizards.

>>167762142
Still not enough.

They should actually go and take the risk.

>>167762285
Well that's a good thing with the varied starting positions, but I will still wait at least for Kislev when they release all the planned DLC.
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>>167762273
The characters always sucked and Warcraft from game to game was always about inventing a ton of new lore to justify the sequel

>game 1: there are orcs in the swamp invading humans in the forest so they must fight
>game 2: the orcs are actually from another dimension and are demon fueled also oil is an important resource for a feudal society lol
>game 3: just kidding medieval kingdoms don't have oil also orcs dindu nuffin demons wuz bad also ner'zhul was (lich) KANGZ and there are undead as a separate faction now and we have our own special snowflake elves who are like dark elves but good guys

And then in WoW they decided to make heroes from TFT like Kael'Thas into villains because why not? Clearly Illidan needed to be killed even though it was the Burning Legion who invaded Azeroth through the portal again and whatever.

The only real argument you could make against asspulling a bunch of new characters is the fact that the game setting used to be much less fleshed out, allowing a lot of leeway for asspulls. But then Blizzard has continued to asspull shit and change lore like Deathwing being dead so he could star in his own game anyway so I don't see how it matters.
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>>167762539
Off the top of my head: Proper Combat, Cataph's Magic and the fifty skill point and lord level mods on the workshop. All of which wont break your comparability with other mods like Radious will.
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>>167762317
And your arguments are irrelevant because CA didn't design vampire counts to have anything resembling a horde mechanic in mind, even though they probably could have given master necromancers special traits that could enable them to start as a horde they didn't so oh well.

Hence why Tancred wasn't chosen.
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Lads, didn't CA announce that they had hired a historian to work with them on the next historical title? If so, are there any brit anons who can snoop around and try to find out who exactly they hired and what they specialize in?
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>>167762945
They are specialized in female rights and history- feminism.
Take that how you please.
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>>167762945
The wife of my dogs vet told me its going to be about the stoneage.
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>>167762758
Actually only real argument i gotta use is that Blizzard has gone progressively worse and worse at writing characters.
They cannot even asspull properly anymore.
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>>167762864
Why are my arguments irrelevant?

Tancred is a known Bretonnian character who has a story to him that is well known. Instead we get a NoName. Tell me why NoName is better? I don't care about Kemmler not being a seperate vampire horde. I don't care Vampires are a little bit away even though so is Chaos. Why is Alberic better than a character who had an impact on the story?

Tancred was the better option, CA chose differently I hope it works out but Alberic has a short paragraph to his name.
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>>167763070
Your wife's dog wet?
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>>167763272
nah, his wife is wet about the dog
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>>167763376
>>167763272
Didnt know pussies like dogs or being wet
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>>167762945
my wife's son's uncle's wife's nephew bets you anything that it's a fucking nu-historian majoring in lgbtqwertyuiop+ studies and social liberal arts marxism

who the fuck even makes a historical game with only 1 historian on hand to consult, seriously
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>>167763376
I don't see a problem with that.
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>>167763541
>who the fuck even makes a historical game with only 1 historian on hand to consult, seriously
Cheapskates obviously
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>>167762945

I just discussed this with the raccoon in my backyard he thinks it's going to be early renaissance
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>>167763541
This made my neurons go into overdrive
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>>167760394
No but thanks to a friend I figured it out.

Got my DLC now.
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>>167763708
Did you figure out who he's talking about?
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>>167758524
You unlock it if you beat the game on legendary with every faction
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>>167762945

A rat just jumped out of my toilet and wrote a message on the floor of my toilet

It said "Three Kingdoms"
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>>167763205
Your arguments are irrelevant because the game mechanics given to the vampires mean Kemmler starts in Sylvania. Hence having Tancred at war with Sylvania would be retarded as fuck.
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>>167763272
>>167763376
Fuck, I've read is as a "wife of my dogs veteran"
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>>167763847
Skaven confirmed
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>>167763763
Yes.
My wife's son= son
my wife's son's uncle= my brother
uncle's wife= my brothers wife
uncle's wif'es nephew= son
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>>167763847
>A rat
woohoo, Skaven DLC confirmed!

>>167763868
>>167761861
as was said earlier, Kemmler has no business being in Sylvania and was put there simply because it's the only vampire country right now, and he's too iconic. If they add Mousillion, Kemmler oughta be moved there, since Bretonnia is his place
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>>167763847
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>>167763052
It's funny because at my university the expert on latin american studies was also part of the women's studies department and the authority on women in history
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>>167763868
Does Karl Franz start at war with Manfred? No, he doesn't. What about Grimgor? No, he doesn't. Skarsnik? Nope. Wow its almost like that doesn't matter at all. While the aversion diplomacy adjustments are there rivals don't actually start off at war with each other aside from Chaos-based races and Dwarf-greenies. So try again, my dude.
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>>167763975
>>167764037

you better stop drinking when you go patrol those sewers , ratmens , skavens ? whats next ? frog peoples ?
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>>167764273
fishmen!
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>>167764273
yes fellow manthing, these silly peasantmen need to spend less time drinking, and more time praising hammerman
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>>167762945

I was just about to begin eating my alphabet soup when I noticed the noodles had formed three words.

"Pike"
"And"
"Shot"
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>>167764603
I guess it's settled then. I would never dare to question the great alphabet soup oracle.
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>>167762945
Yeah, the next title is Clash Royale: Total war
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>>167764253
Tancred's entire point in lore is that Kemmler is his sworn enemy you retard. How about you try again, you cum-guzzling faggot?
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>>167737085

Is there ever a point where I stop using zombies and skeleton swordsmen? grave guard look like complete replacements for the latter
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