/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

Game Maker is a respectable development platform.

if you're a faggot

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I'm finalizing menus. Battle preview soon.

>>167470893
>do nothing
Oh look the Aggy Daggy option.

>tfw I'm sitting here looking at the thread and not programming

How many subtle 4chan memes are you putting into your game?

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>>167470772
well like i just need to learn how to sprite and how to use dev tools
really just looking to make a pixel shit RPG that has elements from multiple games
>>167470830
actually i want to do a small project to learn how code, if random anons like it, i'll do something bigger. If alot of people like it i'll do a nice game and sell it
if it turns out to be shit i'll just leave with some computer science knowledge

Bhutan did nothing wrong.

>>167470995
>pixel shit RPG

rpgmaker, they have their own thread too

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Any AGDG games make it to Steam recently?

Already got:
Social Interaction Trainer
Abyssal Zone (not AGDG lol)
Aliens Go Home Run

>>167470994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xeq9l7DNY

Only the finest.

>>167467281
let is the most retarded fucking term, math or programming, doesn't make any fucking sense

it's a declaration you don't need to give anyone permission, you're not asking politely, you are saying "this is how it is"

>>167471212
riks of rain

>>167450907
Where did you learn to make a game like this?

>>167471306
r e c e n t l y

>>167471298
It is a poposition.

It's a very good term. It's not a request for permission.

>>167471298
I bet you don't say please and thank you either when googling, do you?

>>167471261
>pronouncing doge as do-she

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>167471298
autism

>>167471323
I went to college for game design

>>167471098
i want gameplay very similar to the old paper marios.
like a pixel action RPG but paper mario gameplay would describe it more accurately

>>167471419
too bad you are using it in the context of a statement, it's wrong and confusing, I can't understand you, speak english motherfuckers

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>tfw object oriented programming

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>>167471625
>current year + 2
>being a commie

you have to go back

>>167471625
>OOP
>90s
>pepe
yeah that fits

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>>167471625
Tfw mixture of functional programming backend and OO game.

>>167471323
youtube tutorials, UE4 answer hub, and playing DMC3/4. It also helps that I had moderate programming experience from various other projects.

>>167471212
>Social Interaction Trainer
Is not an /agdg/ game.

>b-but googs posts on /agdg/!!!
Show me one (1) post where he posted progress of SIT on /agdg/. Actual progress, not an advertisement.

>>167471323
>game
Where?

>>167471745
Any tutorial examples?

>>167471751
He posted... incremental... advertisements...

>>167471625
Literally the only paradigm suitable for gamedev

>>167471751
oldest one i could find
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/156531550/#156585510

>>167471794
are you looking for anything specific? modeling/animating? programming?

>>167471935
Modeling and animating for that type of DMC style game.

>>167471261
I could only stand 10 seconds of this. Disgusting.

>>167471917
older.... there should be posts from 2014 but the archive doesnt go back that far.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/122500883/#122533669

>>167471883
data oriented ECS is the future

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Got doors kinda working. What does aggydaggy think about non-linear stories in vidja? Should I force some type of linearity to form some cohesion or just let the player go through it as they will?

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>got a BSOD while deving a month ago
>now backup my project folder to my mega account at least 5 times over the course of a day

How much backup is too much backup?

>>167472203
I like nonlinear storytelling. Something tells me your game will benefit from it.

>>167472203
from the thumbnail I thought this was sourceshit

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Which model looks better? I kind of want to get away from using the default but... my modelling skills... are not that good.

>>167472258
Just use version control and have a remote where you store it. Now you've got a changelog AND a backup!

>>167472353
the source "look" is pretty aesthetic

>>167471958
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFt_AvWsXl0fEx02iXR8uhDsVGhmM9Pse
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvgIVNDU-Dxjb3eukDF5W0l0-6ShO9OiM

I pretty much used these two tutorials for learning Blender. As for DMC style animation, just study DMC animation. Like, there are youtube videos with the full DMC4SE movesets. Pull those up and use them as a reference. Or record yourself playing and study that. Try to use exaggerated, dynamic poses for your keyframes, make quick movements, and slow down for the recovery frames. General animation stuff.

How do I make root motion work in Unity? It just resets back to the origin.

>>167471212
There's this if you haven't seen it yet. But, there are a few more out there

http://homph.com/steam/

>>167472405
The plot thiccens

>>167472810
I know because I run it

>>167472405
it looks like scp 178

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>>167473127

>>167473127
I want to say that is Rust, but it looks like some sort of disabled Rust.

>>167472884
Homph, post feet please

>>167473127
>>167473278
Is this your "first visible output" milestone?

>>167473386
It is Rust, what do you mean by "disabled"?

>>167473437
Rust is disabled because it doesn't have monads or traversables

>>167473474
True, but that doesn't exactly warrant a distinction between "Rust" and "disabled Rust".

>>167473437
the whole 'main:loop part, maybe I haven't been paying attention to the latest developments but, this looks weird, even for Rust.

>>167473474
No, no, you've just had too much of the Kool Aid.

>>167472664
Please, there's not a single answer anywhere on google for this. It doesn't give me the option to unbake the transform, it just says that root motion is driven by curves.

>>167473591
>'main: loop
That's a loop label, which allows me to break out of the entire loop even from a nested loop.

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>700 lines of code to get a triangle on the screen
>DX11/GL4 driver runs faster anyway

>>167471212
Tier-1 dev was threatening to push the button

>>167473783
>>DX11/GL4 driver runs faster anyway
No, no, they really don't.
http://www.pcgamer.com/doom-benchmarks-return-vulkan-vs-opengl/2/

>>167473783
Maybe if you're an Nvidia peasant.

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Reposting last nights progress, translators will be able to suggest translation edits while theyre playing the game

>>167473965
are you john carmack?

>>167474120
No, just some random anon that assumes you would know the 101's of optimizing if you're going to use Vulkan.

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>>167473853
fukken memes

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oh shit here he come

the king bone

>>167474452
>still .gif
>still slowdown on particle explosion

>>167474538
vp8 webms are deprecated

>>167474538
gif is better for pixel art

prove me wrong

>>167474607
nothing wrong with gifs, but there's definitely something wrong with your games performance.

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>>167474607
>mixelrixels need gif

>>167474452
that last frame where she distorts into a wall oh my god

>>167474785
>mixelrixels
multilayered memes

>>167474452
>walking on air

brava

>>167472405
left

>>167472119
Yo but realtalk, unironically this. Figuring out a decent pooling system for Components still fucks with me though.

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>>167474538
>>167474713
>>167474785
ok sorry i'll fix it nah

>>167474059
I must've missed this, I like what this implies
what's the gameplay like?

>>167475357
you know you only need to simulate a small portion of the particles and have the rest follow

it'll look basically the same and run 10 times better

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>>167475357
>text clips out of bounds
>text jumps to new line on reveal

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Done with this attack. Probably shouldn't have bothered polishing it yet and tested it in Unity first.

This is one of the regular enemies and is supposed to be a little bit mindless and just follows orders, since it's a wooden version of a golem. So I tried showing that a bit in the way it moves.

>>167475357
you
I like you

>>167475505
cool

>>167475357
>blaming shitty performance on your image format
C'mon now

>>167473127
>>167473437

I code in C++. Why would I want to code in Rust or Ruby on Rails?

>>167475505
looks pretty nice, my dude
how long did that animation take you?

>>167475357
Why is it slowing down with the particles?

>>167475805
the whole weekend, so 2 days. that's given that I procrastinate a lot. started watching Blood-C.

>>167475764
Rust is safer and simpler and has a nice module system, build system, and package manager.

>>167475505
I think the weakest part is the end attack. It looks cool as it starts and lunges in, but sort of becomes awkward at the end in that crossed pose. Maybe have some sort of snap back out of the pose?

Need to add some smoothing to the particle emitter on the eye, unless this is a robot. Too many sharp angles.

>>167475925
Does simpler imply simplistic? I do need some of the more esoteric elements of C++ for efficiency reasons. Especially controlling data access patterns and cache coherency.

>>167475907
Sounds a good pace to me.

>>167475406
Its a hacker rpg set aboard a colony ship en route to Proxima Centauri, so you have things like the ships systems to hack into, change the course into a star, sabotage the oxygen generators etc. Or try and situate yourself to be the most wealthy person once the ship lands and the colony is formed, things like that.

Gameplay is like scanning a target system to see what programs it has running, then trying to form an attack based on its defenses. For example if you portscan an address and find out it has a mailserver running, you might devote your CPU to running a fuzzer program to search for any bugs or vulnerabilities that mailserver executable might have, and if you find some package them up with other exploits you have (to get past a firewall, or deliver it as malware via an email attachment to the admin). Or use your CPU instead to mine cryptocurrency so you can just buy your way in, or try and figure out the mailserver address via some story mechanism like a disgruntled employee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nTB5azSvAQ

Here is a playthrough of a couple demodays ago, obviously a lot is missing.

Thanks for asking.

When the root motion node is set to root transform in unity, why does root motion stop working? It gets rid of the option to bake the transform and replaces it with one that just says "root motion is driven by curves".

>>167476029
hmm I can try that out. I was wondering whether movement of the arms should look slow and laborious to emphasize heaviness, or if it moves fast like a blade that cuts the wind.

thanks for the input.


>Need to add some smoothing to the particle emitter on the eye
that's because the framerate is dipping down due to the screen recorder slowing things down. it looks acceptably curvy when I'm not recording to video.

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>>167475876
>>167475667
because every particle is it's own object with physics and collision detection

>>167476126
No, Rust is good for that stuff. It is a systems language.

It simplifies move/copy semantics, has traits (concepts in C++ parlance) instead of OOP, doesn't have grvalues and forwarding and all that nonsense, etc.

>>167476317
BLOW UP MY POST SENPAI

>>167475357
>>167476317
now this is shitposting

>>167476317
can you make that a regular part of the gameplay so that NPCs spew out random shitposting (taken from /agdg/ in real-time) when you talk to them

>>167476420
Ah, so it's an FP circlejerk language, no thanks.

>>167476317
hahahaha you fucking retard

>>167476317
>that death screen
Fucking radical I love it

>>167476317
I love these retarded gifs more than I should

>>167476501
It's really not. It's about as functional as ML while still mapping to hardware tightly with no garbage collection or anything.

>>167476317
>because every particle is it's own object with physics and collision detection
and it still can't handle a 522x299 resolution, maybe your engine is just shit...

>>167476317
>>167476483
>spew out random shitposting (taken from /agdg/ in real-time) when you talk to them
This. I don't imagine it would be too hard to do

>>167476309
Even if it is just a small change to get out of the pose faster or move into a slightly different pose at that point. Plus it is just opinion, anyway.

>>167476317
Is it your implementation of the collision system? Maybe you are using it wrong. That number of particles should be tractable by most systems.

>>167476420
Thanks. I may read into it more, but I have to learn some other language at the moment for some reasons.

>weekly recap is approaching
>i didn't make any progress this week
>don't want to lose my sweet multiplier

>>167476668
physics and resolution are not related

>>167477306
The solution is simple:
Make progress.

>>167477349
but this is my time off
and there's only sunday left

>>167472625
Thank you, anon, this is super helpful!

>>167476317
Now this is the kind of shitposting we should have more in this general.

>>167478638
If the point is for the game to slow down like that, then mission accomplished.

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>>167477110 >>167478821
I think you are grossly misinterpreting my intentiones with this game here


>>167476668
>maybe your engine is just shit...

gotchu covered senpai

Learning some visual programming thing called Processing.

Try load the tutorial area and just enjoy the bombardment.

Kill me.

>>167479120
what did xe mean by this

>>167479120
stay far away lad

>>167479120
>Processing
There's this literal fag called Daniel Shiffman / The Coding Train on YT with an exhaustive series of videos on Processing. Coding Challenges or something.
While his way of being annoys me to no end, the actual programming aspects of his videos are interesting.

>>167479350
I cannot stand this person. Also the explanation for brand new coders is maybe not so great. Way too much front loading of information.

>>167479350
>>167479654
Also his name sounds like Daniel Shitman when he says it. I laff.

would the free masons help me sell my game?

>>167480047
Nah, try the jews instead

ALSO, if you are making a language as a teaching tool, don't set the x,y origin in top left? You can relate things to either writing or maths basically. You may write from top left, but graphs, the closest analogue, are bottom left, with positive y going up and positive x going right.. As god intended..

>>167480231
>graphs, the closest analogue, are bottom left
Holy damn, that's a level of ignorant we don't see here often.
Look up graph quadrants, nub.

>>167479350
>>167479654
I don't get it, why does he bother you guys?

>>167480631
I find him obnoxious. His whole giddiness makes me want to puke.

>>167472203
You will still need to force some abstract linearity if you want your plot to have any kind of gradual climax or proper ending.

Look at the Zero Escape games (particluarly VLR and ZTD) for a good example of how to do nonlinear storytelling -
You can't progress through certain key plot lines until you have a certain code or piece of knowledge required (usually literally requires the player to remember a code, not just unlock flags in the game). Because of this, Plotline B can talk about the big twist at the end of plotline A since the game knows you have to have completed A to have found the password to get into plotline B

>>167480631
It is just way too energetic for me. I cannot stand such a thing. It is like watching TV commercials.

>>167480495
Er. You are maybe not thinking about this correctly. I thought the implication clear. The writing method has positive y going down and positive x right.

>>167480047
have reddit help sell your game

>tfw want to use git but github makes all of your shit public unless you pay

>>167480865
>what is bitbucket

>>167480865
It's free if you're a student.

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updated the title screen, how good/bad is it?

is there anyway to join a jam? (to work with/for)

>>167481002
67 points out of 75

>>167480865
you can use local git repo senpai

>>167481002
Something about the font on the buttons looks weird. Maybe try something else?

>>167481002
14/88

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rate

>>167481567
shitty font

>>167481567
not a binary heap / 10

>>167481567
does the job / 10

But surely there is a library priority queue that's efficient for any pattern of priorities?

>>167481839
there probably is, C5 seems like a decent library for it, but I don't care to set that up to be quite desu

>>167481567
You should use an array, lists have too much extra time required to iterate through because of the chained references

>>167482037
c# lists are a reallocating array

https://referencesource.microsoft.com/#mscorlib/system/collections/generic/list.cs,cf7f4095e4de7646

>>167481823
>tfw to smart to use heaps

>>167481567
Add comments please. Also what is '-1f'?

>>167482314
a float thats smaller than zero

>>167482314
A float with the value of -1. Welcome to programming.

>>167482370
You make no sanity checks in your code. Is zero valid as a priority? Is negative one? What happens when you index '-1'? Is that intended?

>>167482391
Thanks man, but I have ALREADY done an hour of Processing.org tutorial. I am basically an expert.

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>>167482537
Oh shit, I'm sorry! Didn't know there was someone with actual experience here.

>>167482720
I guess I should have announced it. Lets make it official.

print( 'I am a Computer Programmer: Ask me Anything! ((AMA))' ) # little programmer humur for you there

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>>167482314
annotated it for idiots ;D

>>167482471
a true samurai does not fear death, and neither should your code

>>167482831
>Not thread safe

>>167482214
Does this mean that add/remove are expensive operations in a c# list?

>>167481262
>>167481398
>>167481440
will take that into consideration

>>167480865
I was in your position last week and decided to try out bitbucket. Would highly recommend.

any game devs want a voice actor?

>>167483014
only if they go beyond the initial capacity, which you can set with the constructor

it always adds some padding too

>>167482831
(You) x2, I am winning here

You wanted a rating; it is shit and broken and not useful in production.

Serious question though, do you know how to comment properly?

>>167483113
Show us your talent first

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>>167483113
Depends. Moan and read this.

>>167483643
seems pretty useful to me, dunno how fast it is, but since I'll be adding a lot more stuff than I'll be removing I figured searching would be fine

what's a proper comment to you?

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>>167483849
But if you're a girl read this instead.

>>167483883
I'm not actually joking about the issues. You should do some bounds checking and handle when a queue has no items properly. You will find this can introduce nasty bugs later and it costs nothing to do it correct now.

Proper commenting is certainly not what the two example you have given is. At a minimum give a header description of each function, the accepted input and the expected outputs and any side effects it has on the object. In each body just write super brief what you are going to in simple english.

The rest is preference, but try and highlight anything that looks more than utterly trivial with a comment. The -1f absolutely would need a comment, but really you should codify it in a variable, which you can then use in your bounds checks and such.

If you properly commented I wouldn't have to guess what is your intentions were and what actually is an error. At a guess i'd say there would be maybe 4 or 5 comments outside of the function header comments, so it is not like it is a lot of work.

can someone explain the appeal of programming languages that aren't object based?

trying out love2d, have a tiny bit of experience making text adventures years ago in inform, which was object-based. none of this shit makes sense to me. it's all totally floaty and disorganized, which forces you to break everything up into 600 files just to make sense of it all.

is love2d worth it? people recommended it as a good beginner framework but it seems like the community is small and half dead and no real games have ever been made with it, which seems like a bad sign to me.

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IT KEEPS HAPPENING

do you guys use twine

>>167484790
after you generate a map floodfill to make sure you can reach all areas, then remove any rooms that weren't reached.

>>167484798
I dabbled a little.

>>167484790
Your code for validity checks obviously returns true when it should not.

I'm putting a check for collisions x 10,000 per tick event in my game unless you want to buy the Gold© edition

>>167484790
Aren't you the dev who hates on anime?

>>167483883
>>167484368
Oh, and parallel arrays like the two you use are always a bad idea. Use some sort of struct or use something like Pair which your language undoubtedly has in some form.

>>167485039
Not the dev.
You keep asking this. Do you plan on trying to drag his reputation through the mud or something? Cause it ain't working, weeb.

>>167484790
Post generation code to pastebin. Will fix right quick.

>>167484790
>>167484854
>>167484856
>>167485101

I have a vague idea of where the problem is. The level is generated using crawlers that dig out corridors and place rooms, ensuring that every area *is* connected. I suspect the code (which is split into multiple phases) creates a single crawler which terminates itself immediately after carving a single block.

If I can't figure out what's causing it, I'll add a floodfill check. It would be rather expensive, though, so I try to avoid doing it.

>>167485095
heh, thanks

>>167484753
Certain programming languages are better at solving certain problems. Some have OO added after the fact like php and some fake it like JavaScript. Some don't have OO like lisp and prologue, which are also very useful for AI.

I don't know if the future is going to be more OO or if it will die and a new way will develop. I think that it's become an overdone fad.

You can have done long discussions on it with comp sci majors. Google can probably do more justice than my shitty explanation, it's been a while since my classes.

I'm on a roguelike binge and have been disappointed at the lack of RLs with interesting combat, especially when it comes to guns and shit, so I'm developing my own. Would it even be possible to randomly generate cover in a room in some sort of sensible, balanced way?

>>167485453
no that is literally impossible what are you some kind of mad man?

>>167485542
I don't know man I've never done this before and I have no clue what I'm doing and it's two in the morning and I don't want to resort to the good old roguelite "hand-make rooms and then randomly place them" cop out just yet.

>>167485453
Really depends on how exactly your guns work. Definitely sounds doable... but I don't think I've seen cover done in an interesting way in a turn based game.

I take it you already played the Doom roguelike?

>>167485620
Make room presets with a bunch of locations that can spawn random shit that fits there and them pseudo-randomly place those rooms to make a map.

>>167485671
I'm not really sure exactly, I'm still working on basic map generation and shit for now, but making cover interesting in a turn based game isn't what scares me, plenty of tabletop RPGs do it, XCOM does it - making cover placement tactically interesting is what scares me.

>>167485620
but there is no possible way to do what you want to do it is literally not even possible

first you have to figure out what balanced cover looks like in your game (cover works differently in different games after all) and then make a ruleset that will spawn that cover. pay attention to things like if the cover also covers entrances to rooms and the distance between things

>>167485379
haskell is the best for literally everythign

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friggin filesize limits, although i need audio anyways so here

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38060766/GMS/FITE/p/fk32.mp4

i added punch sfx

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>>167485868
I fucking hate Haskell because of a single man

>>167485912
Oh shit you can walk around? From your tweets I thought you could only ever move forward...

>>167485346
Why do you hate anime?

>>167486059
yeah it's a dungeoncrawler, so when you aren't encountering enemies you get to explore

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Hammers.

>>167486428
The Night Train is correct.

>>167485912
Hmm.

I like the sound effect, it's unique and fits the mood.

But I'm also mildly annoyed by it. It sounds like you're far away / not creating the sound. Or perhaps like you're not actually hitting something.

Maybe a contact sound at the end of the sound effect would help...

I can't fucking into programming and I never will. I've been trying for 10 years now and have never been able to progress beyond totally basic beginner stuff before I hit a wall and give up. I don't have the right kind of brain for this type of shit. I can write, I can make music, but I can't make a game. It's so disheartening because it's the only fucking thing I've ever really wanted to do. These ideas and goals have been bouncing around in my head since I was little and I'll never be able to make them.

>>167486707
what is teaming up, alex

>>167486707
Maybe don't be a little bitch and just do it for once?

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Made some progress.

- GUI got a minor color overhaul to get away from defaults.
- Encapsulated most of the code better.
- Mouse dragging for camera controls is super smooth. Same goes for zoom.
- I can load block configurations and buildings from external files. Currently doing this at pseudorandom.
- Basic turn structure is implemented. Simulation won't start until everyone is done giving orders. Player can't fuck anything up during simulation and the current time in the simulation is displayed in the lower right.
- Webm shows current maximum simulation speed with nothing actually being simulated. Looking into making multiple simulation ticks possible during one frame, but I doubt this will proove useful later on. Stuff actually happening will drive up the tick time.

I guess the next thing is to throw virtual people into the streets. Excited. For now.

>>167486707
Programming is fucking easy.

Try learning art if you want to hear about true suffering. You can't make a game without art at the end of the day.

>inb4 muh dwarf fortress etc.
It's shit. Artless games are niche and shit. Get fucking real.

>>167486748
Tried it over and over again and I'm not able to create the type of stuff that people want to use in their games. Everyone just ends up ghosting each other after a while, assuming it even gets that far. And really, how many programmers are willing to just sit there and take dictation from some ideaguy saying "oh, the game should have this, and this, and this"?

>>167486604
i think i get what you mean, I feel like it works but also am vagualy unsatisfied by it, I'll keep working at it

>>167486927
What's wrong with niche?

>>167486927
Then why can't I learn it? I mean, the explanation is probably that I'm fucking retarded, but that's something I can't fix. I'm just locked out of it. I have never been able to get my brain to retain these concepts.

>>167487017
It's funny when people get maximally ass blasted because they happen to not be in your niche.

>>167486937
That really depends on the idea guy's ability to actually direct shit.

I don't need someone to say "wouldn't it be cool if players could fly in hover cars?". I need someone that says "this is how the car's suspension is supposed to work, and give me the option to play around with the dampening factor".

>>167486937
>how many programmers are willing to just sit there and take dictation from some ideaguy saying
The vast majority of programmers working in the industry.
The problem is, you're shit and you need to learn how to make a design.

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>>167487047
That's fucked up, I'm too much of a dumbass to grasp Dorf's fortress mode but I still appreciate it for what it is.

That and the adventure mode is pretty good

>>167487041
>Then why can't I learn it?
Because despite what agdg shitposters are constantly trying to push not anyone can learn every skills.

This is why in the real world with real people outside of internet memes and 4chan shitposting we have people learning a specific set of skills to work with.
Instead of trying to learn everything you should focus on improving your strong points.

There's a reason why 1MA games are all mediocre, and no amount of "but he did that alone!!!" is going to fix it.

>>167486937
You'd be surprised. Don't get fooled by aggy daggy over exaggerated idea guys hate. I wouldn't mind working with idea guy/project manager. Get a game under my belt and stay the uncreative monkey I am while coding. Nothing bad about that. Also, >>167487059

>>167487262
>looks at WingMan
Whoops, I take everything back. I am a huge faggot.

>>167487041
just like read sicp and make exercises dude

What systems would I need to make a management game? How would I have a list of worker and their attributes and assign them to specific buildings? Is it just moving things betweens arrays?

>>167487059
>>167487102
I have a ton of detailed design documents regarding game systems and gameplay I've been fucking with for years and years...but it's all just words. It's not like stories or lore or whatever, I know all that stuff comes later, if at all. But I can't even prototype this stuff.

I WANT to be able to just give up but I can't because eventually my mind gravitates back to the subject and I begin jotting it all down again. I just can't MAKE any of it. The absolute bare-bones of a generic platformer is too much for me to handle.

>>167487262
That's just it though, my strong points are just auxiliary things that come at the end of a game's development cycle. As selfish as it sounds, I have my own vision I want to achieve, but I'm lucky if I can barely get some rectangles moving around before it all gets too complicated for me to understand.

>>167487334
I mean, I'm just an anonymous dude out in the woodwork, how is anyone (with any actual skills) supposed to trust me that my game ideas are worth putting their hours into?

>>167487473
How are you moving all that stuff with physics? Are those "animations" done manually like they're qwoping around?

>>167487473
spooky

>>167486707
As someone who teaches coding, it is just some people can't.

>>167487626
Management games are mostly funny databases in terms of data

>>167486927
>>inb4 muh dwarf fortress etc.
>It's shit.
call me back when YOU can buy a small island from the donations to your "shit" game

>>167487789
I guess furry fetish games are good too since retards pay for them

>>167487753

no i was experimenting with raycast behvaviour. it automatically tries to stop incoming objects from hitting it in the face. it has "please get that out of my face" threshold.

>>167487473
How are you doing that? IK combined with joints?
If it's not too complicated i think i'm going to steal it

>>167486810
Addendum

Unlocked the fps for shits and giggles. Simtime was 2.6 seconds for 1440 ticks.
Hiding the city rendering during simulation reduces that time to 280 milliseconds. Of course this is basically "i++" in a few functions, at this moment, but still.
Allowing a "blind" simulation may be a neat work-around. I'll keep this in mind for later.

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>FIxed the separate room spawning
Forced the crawlers to stay within room boundaries, seems to have fiixed the problem

>Fixed player spawning
Player was randomly spawning in a secret level area, no longer

>(RE)Implemented melee attacks
Gotta make them less powerful, but now the player has means to fight even without ammo

>Secret rooms
No longer visible on maps (see webm), also now they have actual loot. Still gotta make the fake walls block light (you can see the light shining through in the webm).

>Player sprite modularity
Made the player sprite of individual parts (body, head, weapon) for futureproofing

>>167487841
yes they are, anything that makes money fulfills the definitions of "good"

>>167487626
Theme Hospital is a management game. Visualise those spreadsheets.

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>>167487959

>>167486707
i couldn't either. get Playmaker or Blueprint. literally all the fun of game design with zero coding involved. i never would have gotten this far without either of them.

>>167487689
Post non-critical game system design document. Something that's useless to steal, but showcases your style of detail.

>>167487959
Hopefully you're trolling.

>>167487689
>how is anyone (with any actual skills) supposed to trust me that my game ideas are worth putting their hours into?
Define worth. If I have someone in discord who deals with gamedesign, ideas, manages andor creates art, I am cool with anything.

>>167487841
>implying making a buck from gay furry shit is pisseasy

of course some of them are, you doofus

>>167488158
ahahahah

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I'm designing the GUI. quick /agdg/, should I use the word "Options" or "Settings"? Also should it be "Video" or "Graphics"?

>>167487369
using an engine isn't doing everything alone

>>167487689
>I can barely get some rectangles moving around before it all gets too complicated for me
Please, if you're that good at designing you shouldn't have problems with that in any drag'n'drop engine or any uml-like thing.

- make rectangle
- assign speed to rectangle
- when user presses a button, move rectangle
There, you have your rectangle moving

>>167488232
using a premade language isn't doing everything alone
using a premade computer isn't doing everything alone
using premade hardware isn't doing everything alone
using premade chemical elements to breathe isn't doing everything alone

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>>167487689

i'll repeat myself because i was in your exact situation and now i'm literally making money from games.

learn

visual

scripting

honestly coding made me want to kill myself. i started with playmaker for unity and moved onto blueprint. you can do everything with visual scripting you can with code. it can get messy as im sure people will post there spegetthi but for me messy looking blueprints is objectivly easier for my brain to process than dealing with any kind of code at all. i have dyscalcula so that shit was impossible for me.

>>167487887
Yeah, but what's the system actually moving the arm up like?

>>167488191
Settings
Video
Audio
Game
Controls

This is the only acceptable naming convention.

>>167488000
>>167488037
You guys have a very bad understanding of English and the ways it can be used.

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>>167488343
>he lives in someone elses universe

>>167488408
>expecting intelligence from people that don't appreciate dwarf fortress

>>167488371
Which would you say is better - Blueprint or Playmaker? Just personally speaking.

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>2017
>un-ironically making retro-style pixelshit games

I thought this was a stupid indie fad that would die out. It's just a dumb attempt to make a game stand out, when it has no other interesting merits to stand on.

>>167488486
>anyone who doesn't appreciate dwarf fortress lacks intelligence.
Thanks for proving the point about the niche and elitism.

>>167488572
it's just laziness

>>167488572
where is your game?

>>167488595
what point exactly?

>>167488640
well, it's NOT being another generic pixel platformer to drown in the masses by constantly having similar game be shat out every week.

>>167488781
I know what it IS NOT, i'm asking what and where IT IS.

>>167488572
And who's going to make the art for the game then?

You?

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>>167488572

>>167488835
I haven't made one yet.

>>167488853
Yes.

>>167488918
There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. The average nodev.

>>167486927
>It's shit

You're shit kiddo. Of course the graphics aren't good and people don't play it for the graphics, but they are willing to put up with those graphics purely for the gameplay ,if that doesn't speak for how good of a game it is, then what does? You're right that YOUR game needs art, because you're just gonna make generic garbage so the gameplay alone won't be capable of pulling the rest of the game.

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>>167488949
He's being a dick and troll about it sure, but I kinda feel like he has a point.

Don't get me wrong, pixel art can look amazing, but there seems to be an extreme oversaturation of it on the dev scene.

I love overhead/ isometric racing games like death rally and minicar racing. How hard would it be to make one in unity?

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>>167488572

>>167489097
>oversaturation
I believe it's 3D that is oversaturated

>>167489157
Racing games are super easy. 3/10.

>>167489097
The only oversaturation that's always there is that of shit games.

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I made my map generator delete objects that aren't accessible to lessen some of the load. I'm not sure what to do with the dead space though.

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>>167489182
You thinking about the truckloads of open world/survival/exploration/sandbox games we've been showered with in a desperate attempt to make something a popular Youtuber will play?

Yeah, guess you're right.

Also, even though lots of pixel games are similar looking, the "3D sandbox" genre is even more same-y.

>>167488371
>>167488507
Oh, shit. UE4's site says I need at least 8GB of RAM (I have 4GB) and shouldn't even fuck with it if I'm on a laptop (which I am).

The visual style I have in mind is simplistic and low-poly, but with light and shadows. Am I fucked still?

Anyone else here always feel like prototyping stuff just to see if you can, with no real desire to make it into an actual game?

>>167489571
Never mind, looked it up and yeah, looks like I'm fucked.

Sigh.

>crash while debugging
>not one line of code changed
>nullreferenceexception
>line of code that instantiates that reference is fine

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>167489598
Sort of. I end up making tons of prototype but no games because I give up when it's time to make arts.

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>>167489598
I do that in my head and on paper WAY too much.

Now if only I could be assed to actually code and model as much as I draw It'd be great!

>>167490169
Make 2D game with sprites and environment consisting entirely of sketches.

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>>167490328
I actually thought about that, but I want to prioritize learning Unity, and I hear its pretty bad for 2D games.

Besides my dreams lie in 3D games anyway so I might as well focus on it from the get-go. I can't wait until I get a good grasp on physics control in Unity. There needs to be more games where telekinesis isn't just a glorified "gravity gun".

I'd definitely be down for letting someone else use my art though.

>>167489443
maybe have it generate rocks/cliffs and a heightmap to go with it? And don't forget foliage.

I am trying to accomplish and impossible task in blender. How do precisely measure a length of an edge? And then i when i'm scaling another edge i need to know how long it is so i can make it the same length

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tfw 2 all nighters in a row and very little deving. am i going to die

Guys, is it easier to do low poly models in maya or blender?

>>167490169
>>167490529
generic as fuck

not that that can't be fun gameplay, but it isn't inspiring

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>>167490696
Look at it's XYZ coords and do the math manually as you move them. There is probably an easier way but that's how I've done it.

>>167490820
These are just sketches on how powers could work mate. If I end up making a game like this some day, the setting probably won't be just "real life with psychics".

Any suggestions?

I have a question for unreal devs.

If I do changes to my data table ingame will it save thar value for next time or will it reset once I restart the game?

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>>167474452
Fun fact: a skull is not a single bone, in fact it's composed of multiple bones.

Are there any problems with ngons on flat surfaces which won't be animated?

>>167481002
I liked it the first time, I still like it now. It's good to listen to criticism but sometimes people are just being nitpicky as fuck just for the sake of criticizing something. That menu is fine.

>>167489598
I make mostly prototypes, because I tend to lose interest quickly in largest projects.
Also, everytime I finish a prototype, it gives me an idea to improve an old one.
It's not exactly nodeving, but it's close.

>>167482812
>single quotes around string
You don't know shit

Are there any guides or something that can help in UI design? I'm extremely fucking bad at UI design and I really need help with it.

>>167491390
Nah mate, I think he knows his stuff. He's got a hashtag in his code and everything!

>>167491390
># comment
Looks like python to me

>>167490735
You might kill yourself somewhere down the line. Yes.

>>167491413
Elements that need to be clicked often should be big or right against the edge of the screen.
Text needs to be legible with no more than two fonts on screen at a time.
Stuff that belongs together mechanically belongs together in the UI.
Less is more.

>>167490656
Yeah I could do that. I don't know how to make heightmaps, so it'd be a good learning experience. Though first stage is forest, so just trees could be good.

>>167491390
Good question! Great Question. Really shows you have been listening. I am so glad to field such a great question from a smart person like you. You know in my life I have seen many great questions and yours is a great one with a great subject to be asked about.

Thank you, next question..

>>167491459
>dying a nodev
no way

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>>167470747
not perfect yet, but slowly making progress on my daughter :)

hopefully one more day of fiddling and she will be ready to re rig and start redoing all my animations

i wish i didnt leave it so long, this has become a much bigger job then it needed to be :'(

https://youtu.be/XYjTtQopDPU

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aww yeah we finding summat dem there paths now

>>167491725
That's some fucked up swastika you got there.

>>167491725
Great, now make it work with a hundred npcs, with local avoidance, on a large grid.
Then please tell me how you did it.

>>167491797
*a few hundreds

For some reason (including recent hand surgery) I'll be unable to finish my game for the comfy jam (I can't draw).
Is it bad if I just make it later?
Or should I just abandon it?

>>167491797
Flow fields. Lucky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qyl7h7D1Q8#t=1660s

A* the large grids and then compute the flow fields things inside the visited grids. 'it just works'.

>>167491925
Nobody will play a game for a jam two months prior. Make it as a stand-alone project, if at all.

>>167491274
isn't that only valid for newborns, which incidentally is the reason why some amer-indian tribes used some clamps to shape the skull of babies so they would be more elongated ?

>>167491950
flow fields kinda suck desu, not least because you have to visit every node to build them

>>167491985
Well then let it be, I'll make it later as a stand alone.
Thanks for answering.

>>167491996
>flow fields kinda suck
Confirmed for not knowing when to use tools.

I made a fucking pong prototype in 140 lines of shitty code using SFML.
That's a start of my gamedev path, after several years of reading gamedev articles and books.
So guys, if you made more than that, that's pretty fucking good, you should never stop.

>>167492017
units in both supcom2 and PA get stuck all the time, and they are really not that much faster than optimized versions of A* which are considerably easier to implement

>>167492052
My last project is about 2k line of code, and I'm using a lot of inline coding.

>still ded because noart

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>>167471212
Please look forward to it.

>>167492149
degenerate scum

>>167492149
Is that the naughty version? I would actually buy that one but if it is the shitty clean platformed one then no thanks

>>167491996
>not least because you have to visit every node to build them

what?

what do you think basic A* does?

>>167492068
>not that much faster than optimized versions of A* which are considerably easier to implement
If your goal is to have many units moving about then it is much faster than typical A*

>units in both supcom2 and PA get stuck all the time
In what sense? The fallback is to do just A*

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>>167492149
Are the yiff scenes hidden in it?

>>167471261
There was a voice actor who will now put down "the doge meme in smite" or something similar on their CV.

>>167492149
>tfw you like the art but not the gameplay

>>167492149
Does the steamkey unlock the real game elsewhere?

>>167492274
>what do you think basic A* does
uses a heuristic to only visit nodes that are likely to lead to the goal, until an obstacle is encountered

you're thinking of djikstra probably

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How do I make shit look better.
I'm terrible at textures

>>167492463
It looks like a turnip, retexutre that one to be a turnip and then for a carrot make it thinner, reduce the size of the leaf bits and elongate it

Why do games take so much time to create? Holy shit.

There's a lot of misinfo surrounding making games, and I believe one of those is how long it takes to make a game.

>>167492393
>uses a heuristic to only visit nodes that are likely to lead to the goal, until an obstacle is encountered

What in the hell do you think that looks like in the general case? In the worst case?

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>>167492261
>>167492290
Clean.
>>167492332
I'm sorry. Have an owl waking up.

>>167492587
a lot better than visiting every node, that's the point

>>167492596
needs to look more owl, looks like a reg bird

>>167492463
Vegetal anatomy and naturalism.
Take a real carrot and look at it.
Pictures don't work as well.

>>167492551
It's highly relative, pong is a game and you can make it in less than an afternoon, dwarf fortress is a game and it's still not complete.
It also depends on your scope, how many people are working on it, and how skilled they are at what they do for the game.

>>167492596
Can you fuck it ?

>>167492596
I'm sorry but that won't cut it on the market.
You would make (far) more money by just dropping game dev and making short animated movies with just the yiff scenes.

>>167492463
make it the color of a turnip and you got a winner :)

>>167492694
You straight up apparently didn't read my explanation (as bad as it was) or watch the video?

>>167491950 >A* the large grids and then compute the flow fields things inside the visited grids.

What part of that implies visiting every discrete node in your search?

>>167483849
sauce?

>>167492776
you can do that with A* too, it's called HAA*

>>167492732
>It's highly relative
Well yeah, I was talking more along the lines of the average game. Pong is simple because it's one of the earlier games, but even back then it might have taken longer to create because they were dealing with lower level code and such. I've read some stories about the development of games for various platforms and even back in the days of the NES it wasn't unheard of to spend a year or so on a game.

>>167492848
It's the same now, if you're using an engine/library, you're cutting down on the time you need.

>>167492747
If all I wanted was money I would likely be doing something like that right now.

I feel so fucking tired all the time even though i jog almost every day
why does my body hate me

>>167492798
>HAA*
Heirarchical (something) A*?

This is all beside the point. We are doing this to create realistic, reactive and performant path finding for large numbers of units. 'it just works'.

After some point using A* per unit and adding more units will eventually become more expensive than using flow fields.

>>167492957
No, i was just laughing at you

>>167492920
>jog everyday
>feel tired
wtf, what did you expect

try sleeping and having fun

Is scheme a meme language or can you actually make games with it?

Speaking of voice acting and sound.

Are there any royalty free audio software that lets you compose and edit vidya music/voice modulation/sound effects?

I've used Audacity a little bit, but it'd be nice to have a composing tool like E-Jay Dance, or something similar. Royalty free if possible.

I'm listening to this and it inspired me a lot:
https://youtu.be/AaVbgWgsDwg?t=12

>>167492981
good jerb

>>167492957
and you're not going to get optimal performance by building the entire map for every destination

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>>167492542
>>167492542

howzat

YOU

YES YOU

TELL ME ABOUT YOUR COMFY JAM GAME

IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE DON'T EVEN BOTHER REPLYING YOU UNCOMFY FAGGOT