Roguelike General - /rlg/

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first for mourning arelgee's slow, sad death

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Bye faggot
And now I think its the part where I have to kill dungeon guardians so I have a chance against big J

>>167338658
Great work anon! Looking good for the serpent!

What's your strat for zerkers?

Is it normal to get the stone of nature on the nature quest in Zul or is it really just a happy chance?

By the way it does apply easyspell, anon was right! Herbal healing down to 4%.

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>>167339121

>>167337346
What game is that?

>>167340068
Boku no Regum

Ultima ratio regum

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>>167340198

Wow it's the Ultimate Rectum

>>167338841
The general strat is that a zerker can 1v1 pretty much anything if you have your resists covered, so as soon as I descend I dig an antisummoning corridor and kill everyone in my comfy little hole ( I have aggravate so they all come to me)
I have antitele so thats one less bad surprise if I would hit a teleport trap or get teleported away
The biggest danger is Quylthugs cause telepathy dont see them so I avoid big open rooms as much as possible, summoners and casters in general will kill you if you cant get to them and you have to stay in the open. I almost died at one point cause something breathed disint on my hole and I got insta surrounded by summoned dragons.

>>167340808
How do you plan on handling the serpent, He who fears no antisummoning corridor?

>>167341203
Well Ill try to kill some of the really bad uniques before but I think I will probably die in the fight

>>167341537
Can't he summon copies of uniques like the unicorn of order?
Good luck and may the rng bless you angry space marine

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why the FUCK did RNGesus give me this weapon, when I decide to play a sword user, instead of a mace or axe user, for the first time in 400 games?

J U S T

>>167339701
>>167153739

>>167342102

It has *Slow anyway so it's shit

>>167342102
>dire flail
>2H mace/flail
>slow

The vampiric brand and extra Dex are nice, but that's a crappy fucking artefact.

Apparently Chamaleon cave never spawns dungeons, so it acts like a regular dungeon even with always fun rooms.

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>Pakellas has been removed.
I fucking hate these devs

>>167345352
is removing things from crawl still a live meme?
chris pls

This thread is more dead than pakellas

>>167345952
yes, this ride never ends

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>>167345952
Yes.

Question: I'm on an OpAs of Dith, found a shop on D11 that is selling the plutonium sword for 960g. Should I just say fuck it and go for it once I have the money?

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God, I hate vecna with valuts so much. He keeps blinking inside.

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>staff of resistance:genocide

>>167347852
Yeah, it's pretty good and statue form is still good to use with weapons.

>>167346547
Well, this general always had DCSS as its most discussed game but now that it's dead the thread obviously followed suit.

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>>167347854

I'm starting to believe that when I found the one ring in theat D1 vault I just got really really really really really lucky

>>167349806
The chance is something like 1/666 so yeah you're pretty lucky.

>>167349979
Does that apply with monster generation too? I thought it only applied to the object when you killed smeagol, I'm talking about the plain gold ring.

Wearing chain mail, is stealth worth training when I have +3 aptitude as a DDFi?

>>167351364
No, not really. The only time you would want to train stealth in heavy(ish) armour is if you have shadow dragon scales or if you nothing better to train, like in extended where you literally have infinite exp.

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I started out disliking barachians, but the melee beyond earlygame is pretty fun when you just jump around and fuck shit up.

>>167350109
The plain gold ring only drops the one ring with a 5% chance (unless you are a ring yourself).

Most likely is sauron with a 1/10 chance.

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>>167351987
>The plain gold ring only drops the one ring with a 5% chance
Nice to know, thanks anon.

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So I guess vampiricism doesn't work on monky fisty characters?

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Is he /ourguy/?

>>167352936
Does it count as a brand? I thought PCB-R made those work for punching.

>>167353547
nah they don't work with monks. I wish.

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>>167353059
>thinks tallowmere is a roguelike

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Fucking FINALLY

I hated every second, being able to teleport away at low health is the most annoying feature for uniques
Had to blow something like 30 healing pots

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This is fucking poor
I'll have to grind cash to rerol shops for more *healing*

>>167355418
>savescumming
ishygddt

>>167337346
For DrTm should I be leveling str for the dragon form bite/blade hands? Or should I be leveling dex for EV?

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Now you understand my choice for vaults. Permawalls block J's AI and he keeps smashing his head against the walls hoping it'll break. I just need to keep recalling until I find a good valut with tons of elbow curves and no free space whatsoever, then I just go to town with him.
But not yet.

>>167356517
Always Str, but as a DrTm you should be choosing chei(if you're not a pussy bitchboi) for juicy 1-shots and he gives +15 to everything anyway.

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So, I think I'm doing rather well. I've made it to lair 4, and found the entrance to the swamps. Got a stash on lair 2, etc. Where do I go from here? Should I finish up the lair, and backtrack to find the mines? Or go back to the dungeon for a bit? I assume the swamp is going to be tons of poison shit, and all I have is a ring of resist poison. Will that be enough?

>>167356976
Optimal strategy:

dungeon to 10/11/12
lair
orc
dungeon to 15
lair branches
(easiest to hardest: swamp,spider,snake,shoals)
vaults 1-4
depths
3rd rune(for a caster I would recommend slime or maybe abyss, DO NOT DO VAULTS:5 as a caster.)

Also, I would get a halberd/glaive and start training that to min-delay and wear heavier armour like ring mail/swamp dragon scales. MfIE is best played as a hybrid and it would be a waste to not take advantage of the +4 polearms aptitude.

>>167356672
So pick chei and dont get in sticky situations?

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Friendly reminder that despite crawldevs being Greekaboos, it will NEVER be as flavorful as PCB

>>167357539
Yes, blade hands + chei is very,very strong, you can eventually one-shot the unique pan lords who have REALLY fat HP bars.

My first chei win was with a statue-form draconian, so it might be worth getting that if you find it.

>>167356976
Finish Lair, then do Orcish Mines, then finish the rest of Dungeon.

Swamp isn't *that* poison-oriented. In fact, in terms of danger that arises from poison damage, Swamp is safer than Lair. But rPois is nice to have on hand.

>>167357765
>>167356976

He'll need rPois for swamp for sure, the poison clouds that swamp dragons breathe are massive pain, even for tanky chars, and swamp drakes breath mephitic clouds, which cause confusion with rPois and shut down his spellcasting.

>>167357732
alright cooll, one last question does spiderform speed me up and piss off chei?

>>167358167
No,pretty sure spiderform isn't fast anymore. I personally don't bother memorising it on a transmuter.

I just train UC to 10, get chei, get enough transmutations for reliable blade hands, then just starting destroying stuff.

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How to capture a snek: part 1
Part 2 is dying

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Realize you haven't brought enough snacks to the party.
Rinse.
Repeat.

Jesus fuck. Went down to lair 5 and ran into a centaur, komodo, Polar bear and black mamba all adjacent to the stair tile. Blinked away with 4 hp and poison ticking. incidentally, how do I get more potions?

>>167357297
>>167357765
>>167358130

Thanks for the advice. Lair 5 is making me kinda nervous. I'm thinking maybe I'll do one more dungeon layer before lair 6, or maybe start on the mines. The only glaive i have is vampiric, and I already can get hungry as shit from my spells.

Also what level should I get my armor to, in order to wear mail?

I can totally not do this

>>167359592
Vampiric glaive is fucking amazing, you only need 16 skill to swing that at 1.0 speed, which is super easy for merfolk.

There's also no real armour skill breakpoints, ring mail offers some okayish defence and shouldn't higher your spell failure much. It is a pretty light armour, it's only a tier above leather. On a pure melee merfolk, I didn't raise my armour skill past 15 so you really don't need much.

Ice beasts wreck swamp, so I would start training polearms and maybe dodging, if you haven't done so.

>>167359965
forgot to mention, that the game plan is to poke shit with a glaive behind your ice beasts.

You should be a semi-melee dude with a decent weapon , not still wearing robes in lair and using a spear, which has the same base damage as a short sword!

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Always remember to plan ahead when shit hits the fan.

>>167359469
I literally don't understand how you got into that position. You hit to earthquake?

>>167361450
You lure the snek down the spiral from its left arm, then you carefully guide him in the maze. If he gets too close you read a manuscript on the opening of the phases, for since 'tis a spiral everything comes back to the same point
Also I can like
cast earthquake

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H-h-hiya, fellas!

>>167361796

>you miscast blink

God....dammit.

>>167337989
>>167346547
how new?
this thread has been slow as fuck for ages

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And then, just when you least expect it, your quest is over.
It is time to reach and touch the gates of Twilight for a brief moment, before falling into the oblivion of the true death.

For this is bliss. You have reached heaven through violence and must shed away this mortal coil for something more.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I HAD FINISHED ALL MY POTIONS OF FUCKING *HEALING* AND LIFE AND I DIDN'T HAVE FUCKING ANYTHING LEFT EXCEPT FOR MY POTIONS OF RESTORE MANA AND SOME REGULAR HEALING
I HAD TO RELY ON FUCKING EHRBAL HEALING
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW TENSE IT IS TO RELY ON SOMETHING THAT CAN FAIL 1/25 TIMES AFTER PLAYING FOR MORE THAN TEN HOURS
I WAS FUCKING SHAKING THE WHOLE TIME ANY TURN COULD HAVE BEEN MY LAST JESUS FUCKING CHRIST I FUCKING HATE YOU PCB I'M FUCKING GLAD I GOT RID OF YOU FOREVER
FUCK

Now let us ride the peaceful boat of Morpheus towards a better tomorrow.

A tomorrow where PCB's endgame does not exist.

>>167363000
Chei appreciates the change of pace

>>167332152
Sure as shit it's risky but it's like 50 excellent items per magus.

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For Maya, who almost made it.
I botched the final screenshot, but I kept stairdancing until I could find a nice pattern vault and retired there. So that he could have something nice to look at before.

Gonna put this bad girl in the OOK ladder.

Kinda sad it doesn't say *TRUEWINNER* anymore when you kill the babble in the arena.

Tomorrow I'll quote that post from that dude saying I'd win nightmare mode to show him who's the top autist around here
I RUN THIS FUCKING GENERAL

>>167363516
>5 excellent items
That can't be right. Still, 5 is pretty great.

PCB:
Is there a limit on randarts? Currently playing a Death Sword and have decided it would be really cool to literally graft every artifact in the game onto my being. I've realised that with enough money, all non-weapon artifacts can be reforged into weapons and then assimilated. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

>>167365350
>Currently playing a Death Sword
I hope you know what you're going through and are a masochist

>>167365232
Huh, that's strange, I would have thought that given all your many runs, you would have a decent looking highscore table full of your previous tonberry monks who got so far but fell short. I wonder how that happened....

>>167365481
I'm playing like 6 characters simultaneously. I played ZAngband for years (before they royally fucked it) and death sword seemed interesting. I'm not very far with it desu, lack of AC seems like a concern but I'm hoping if I find enough defender class weapons I'll be able to stack it up fairly nicely (though I imagine there's probably a shitty cap on it)

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>>167365583
Listen kid, you've been on my ass for days now.

What do you want.

Regarding your "question": I changed OS, this is my second character. Did you not see I'm playing on windows?
I know you know I played with linux before because you quoted it several times in your... unique way.

>>167341651
if he tries to summon uniques and doesn't get ANY results, there's a 1/3 chance to throw out some clones, otherwise he summons greater undead

>>167365350
Death swords can't reforge.

But as far as I know, you can always generate more randarts in the dungeon as loot, and deep enough ones are actually really good.

>>167365350
sorry but the shop that does reforging is racist against swords and rings

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>>167365908
>What do you want.

>Get to Orcish mines
>Crystal Plate, Shield of Protection, amulet of regen
>Wrath infused +8 Shillelagh "Destroyer"
>Hold down TAB for 5 minutes
THEY SAY THAT A HERO WILL SAVE US
NOT GONNA STAND HERE AND WAIT

>>167365908
>psshh, nothin' personal kid

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>>167363293

>>167365908
>Obnoxiously posts nonstop things no one cares about
>Insists people notice him
>Screams VICTIM when people get annoyed
>Posts furshit
This is Pottery. It is made of the highest craftdwarfship.

>>167369580
GO GET 'EM RAY!

>>167366470
>>167366574
WHHAAAAA???? Dammit seriously? How can I graft the power rings onto my mighty frame?

>>167370549
you cannot

however if you have enough 'tism you could just grind angband 99 for infinity years until you get a big pile of ?artifactcreation

>>167370745
but that doesn't help with getting Vilya and co onto me... makes me sad to think that if my character ever finds The One Ring, all it can do is sit in my house :o(
wait a minute, I'm literally a sword and I own a fucking house? how the fuck does that even happen?

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I started a MfWz randomly, but immediately didn't like it, so I tried to get him killed but somehow he's survived that and got a +12 glaive from an acquirement scroll.

Why is it the characters that I give 0 fucks about get good RNG?

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what's a roguelike that lets me be a reclusive druid who lives innawoods that kills any interloper that dares desecrate my wilderness?

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Welcome to the big leagues, kid! Now let's see if you've got the balls to take it all the way.

>>167371989
unreal world

>>167372126
something with magic

>+10 hand crossbow "Minotaur's Peril" {elec, +Blink Str+3}

Worth 1000 gold as a minofighter? Mace n shield now.
Really wish I could hold a mace and this crossbow at the same time fuck you roguelikes why are you more casual than Souls games

>>167372329
>Implying that making fire isn't magic

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>uses shitty 3D display
>most items drops are locked on higher XL
>magic costs shitload of mana but deals dogshit damage, on par with melee attack
>you keep your XL and items when you die
>boss can generate traps
>traps can be generated anywhere, including on the hallway
>traps can hurt you 100 times when you auto attack as long as you step on that tile
>not turn based (real time)
>boss time
>fuckhuge 3D size, can't even see anything if I'm behind the boss
>grind at least 20 health potions because his health is ridiculous
>boss is at 1/4 health
>generate grinding traps that cut 1/4 of your max HP
>automagically step on that trap
>cut down my HP 4 times in 1 second because lol real time
>die

That's it, I'm uninstalling this shitty game.
Does the fucking developers even play this game without wizard mode ?

>>167372603
>steped
Seriously wtf is this game it looks truly awful

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>>167365908

>kid

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>>167374165
he is a barneyfag (a.k.a. paedophile) so calling you "kid" is probably just his way of saying he wants to fugg you
take it as a compliment anon <3

Death-Sword newbie again ^_^ what happens if I absorb a weapon with an ancient foul curse? I would try it and see but I'm guessing it might be something really bad. Do I get cursed essences or something??

>>167374597
you can't get "bad" effects, so it's safe to eat everything you find
although things with AFC, aggravate, permanent curse, etc, will give you fewer GOOD essences than a similar non-cursed weapon would

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what was your exp with it /rlg/? my fault if image name sucs

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conquest of elysium 4 is pretty comfy, but the game puts a lot of emphasis and pressure on constant expansion, as eventually demons and shit start invading.

anything similar in terms of tone and setting out there?

what's a roguelike that lets me be a reclusive druid who lives innawoods that kills any interloper that dares desecrate my wilderness?

>>167375328
>although things with AFC, aggravate, permanent curse, etc, will give you fewer GOOD essences than a similar non-cursed weapon would
Though I don't think there's any method for you to can uncurse a weapon, so there's no reason not to eat it anyway.

>>167375350
I have mixed feelings.
The interface is absolutely lush (for a touchscreen device). I can't imagine playing a roguelike more smoothly on a tablet.
It has some neat ideas, but also really messes up on a few things, like identify being damn near impossible to do reliably, a serious lack of explanation (buffs/nerfs, enchantments etc), and hunger is far too big a problem (I get it's to stop farming but it's still a little too strict).

is cataclysm ded?

>>167375328
>>167375430
Thanks for the info anons. how much of a cap is there on my potential upgrades? stat boosts for instance?

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>wah wah wah charge draining isn't fun

Maybe you should just carry 5 (five) staves of healing like me, then.

>>167376790
charge draining is worse in vanilla angband, where it actually costs permanent resources

>>167376790
>mystic
Are they fun later on? I think my best one died around level 30 and the powers were mostly punch: now with acid flavor.

>>167375819
well the costs increase exponentially. +5 strength costs twice as much as +4 strength, and so on
so realistically you won't hit a "cap" you'll just get to a point where you probably won't get better without hundreds of hours of autismgrinding

there is a hard cap at 10,000 essences though. deathswords often hit this for to-hit and to-dam but there's no chance in hell of reaching it for anything else

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>>167370549

Edit the source code and recompile it so the shop allows you to reforge artifact, it shouldn't be that hard.

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>>167365232
They're pretty wacky mate.

>>167377094
Not particularly fun or competitive compared to monks. The stances and stuns (and detection in the early game) are very nice, and I'm doing 550 per turn at the moment, but the whole elemental/status punch thing doesn't wow.

>>167352113
smeagol drops it 1 in 666

>>167363293
yesss

Is there a description somewhere of what the monk postures actually do?

>>167382204
shit i'll try to give one off the top of my head
>black tortoise: fucks your damage but gives resists + sustains + reflection + levitation (?)
>blue dragon: increases your damage but gives -50 AC and vulnerability to AcElFiCo
>red phoenix: reduces your damage but gives +10 speed
uh maybe there's one more too? i dont remember

they're all kind of useless on tonberry monk because the defensive ones decrease blows while the offensive one just increases your damage dice without affecting blows
although genbu is nice early for the reflection against warlock packs i guess

you can check the exact effects on your damage by looking at ~W, it takes all those bonuses into account

>>167382570
+speed sounds nice, though I'm guessing that comes in towards 50 and is thus probably not a huge deal.

I'll have to keep tortoise in mind. First game in a while that I haven't found an early reflect shield.

>>167382886
oh yeah also holding a posture stops SP regeneration and maybe costs a little bit over time, so you can't just keep them on forever
resting automatically cancels your active posture

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Well that's a little disappointing. I'll need to think hard on what all to swap out for Zeus.

Are there any roguelikes with deep magic systems?

I've played alot of DCSS but the magic system largely comes down to having a couple of different damage types, some AOE and a blink. Late-game enemies shrug off just about all debuffs.

Saw you in /cum/, lad.

I just recently started getting into Poschengband and was curious about the Android Runeknight combo, and decided to try it out following the pastebin guide.

I'm honestly very confused about the guide, since I can't even get off the ground, being too weaksauce to even handle the thieves' quest. It says to go to Camelot 1 to get gold and gear but it took me around 5 attempts to even make it there without getting assblasted by ambushes on the worldmap, and then I got rekt by Weirs the moment I entered.

Am I doing something extremely wrong here? Skipping something that isn't mentioned in the guide perhaps?

>>167389235
the guide is written for an old version of PCB

the level 1 dungeon right outside town is named Stronghold instead of Camelot now

Camelot starts at level 20 instead of level 1, so heading there ASAP will probably get you killed

>>167389235
I'm reasonably certain the dungeon just outside of town (now called Stronghod) used to be called Camelot.

I also vaguely recall something about runeknight's infinite money shenanigans being 'fixed', but I haven't played one in a long time and may be wrong on that.

>>167389736
>>167389773
I had a feeling there was something very strange about going to a level 20 dungeon right off the bat, but you never know sometimes.

Does this mean that the race/class combo is not really viable anymore, or is it just the infinite money glitch that is gone? I didn't really care about that to be honest, was more interested in playing something unique and different and it sounded like that.

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>use shift-move in a corridor
>this happens
why doesn't it automatically stop outside of melee range anyways

>>167389970
it's just the money shenanigans that were patched

What roguelikes aren't about going into dungeon and has actual world?

>>167390128
cataclysm but it isn't a roguelike

>>167389970
The money trick was fixed by making a rune apply a 99% off discount on the item.

However if this also effects your android points, it's going to be terrible combo. I don't know if it does, but it should be easy to see.

>>167390756
>if this also effects your android points,
it doesn't

>>167390123
>>167390756
>>167390850
Thanks guys, will have to get around to trying it again sometime soon then.

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>Hades, Ruler of the Underworld invokes the Hand of Doom! You resist the effects!

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>>167392830
One or two more -rokit and I should be ready for J. And maybe some more speed and !*heal*

>>167363000
since crawl .12
it's OK, keep implying how new others are and you will eventually fit in faggot

>>167369570
Oh hey that's actually cute thanks anon

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Nodens is the most dangerous unique in the game y/y

>>167397372
>doesn't resist stunning
nah

>>167397441
>wasting turns hoping confusing lights will stick on a level 92 20 speed enemy

found the shitter
wizmode it and get back to me

>>167397441
I'm going to bed, you better get me comprehensive confusing lights data by tomorrow pal, I'm not made of inventory slots

Makin' a little list.

>>167398030
there are ways to apply stunning other than confusing lights anon
mauler earthquakes, samurai strike-to-stun, clubmaster clubs
monk can too but it's not very reliable

but anyways the check to stun with conflite is 1d(device power) vs 1d(monster level) so it's not super reliable but not hard to hit either. nodens gets +10 to his effective level for the check for being a unique and having the "powerful" flag, but he'll still be stunned more often than not

confusing lights also applies fear (doesn't stick very often vs uniques i think)
as well as confusion (most uniques are immune), slow (all uniques are immune) and paralysis (at 1/3 the power of the other debuffs, and all uniques are immune)

so it's most OP against big non-unique targets, really

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Planning on adding Brogue, I heard there's a patch that alets you shout commands to allies.

Comment on my pcb start route for melee
1-30:
>do thieves quest
>warg quest
>angband 6-12
>Do some lower level dungeons, stronghold, orc caves, do angband again to 23/24
>Try to find resist base, levitation
30+
>go to wilderness mountains below angwil
>level 50 mountains, detect dragons and kill em
>do angband to ~50


Not sure what to do after, dragons lair is a bit too hard, probably do quests such as cloning vats, castle.

Since now Reposte is a thing, can i just pump dodging like a madman even with a slow as fuck triple sword and still get a 50% chance of guaranteed hits?
Or is the reposte mechanic also tied to weapon speed and accuracy?

>>167401940
What's your race/class combo?
Usually you can simply farm angwil/Zul dragons with 3 AcElfiCo (and at least 2 Po) up to level 40 if you're not a demigod or something with 300% xp penalty. Then you're better off cherrypicking fights in arena until level 50 and then clearing all the nasty dungeons.

>>167402084
Usually human weaponmaster or something similiar. Sometimes I feel that my level out paces my gear.

I will go try zul -> arena, thanks.

Btw I heard about heaven/hell and using scroll of acquirement there, does anyone know if this is still possible, and where is heaven or hell?

>>167402183
Quick tip: since dragonloot disappears if you're not in a forest terrain in the mountains, there's a way to get a nice open area with tons of forests at DL50 under Zul:
You must reach the town, go up in the map go west from the town, then south two maptiles and then east. As weird as it is it's completely different from just reaching it just by going down two maptiles from the town because of how map localization works in PCB.
Anyway if you go left down down right you'll find a nice cozy area with tons of forests to kill dragons without bothering about the loot, near enough a city to re-sell all the stuff you find and buy supplies when running low.

>>167402253
Not since 5.0, Chris reworked the worldmap.

>>167402312
>You must reach the town, go up in the map go west from the town
Meant to write "You must reach the town (go up in the map until you find the white * in the mountains), then go west from the town".

>>167402312
Thanks

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First time I've seen that.

>come back after a few days
>my rlgrobin SpEn on lantea is still in the same spot
Yay

>>167402397
Is the whole "getting dispelled while invulnerable paralyzes you" a joke by the way?

>>167402505
It sounds shitty enough to be true.

>>167402497
Do people still play rlgrobin? I remember last time some asshole kept splatting high-rune chars and it kinda died out.

>>167402253
To actually enter the heaven/hell dungeons you must kill the serpent.

The effective level of tiles on the world map is capped at 60 for loot purposes now, so it's no better than e.g. dipping into dragon lair.

>>167402505
It doesn't actually inflict the paralysis status but it makes you lose 1 turn worth of time.

Also it's not just dispels, it's whenever invulnerability wears off. So if you're gonna use it in a tough fight have a plan to either win fast or re-cast it.

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>>167351764
The fucking map.
Is that a FUCKING COCK?

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>>167402894
I do.. I found book of necro and death now, im all set for late game

>>167403058
>It's still got the grunt language set as default
Good memories. Did you change the sprite? It used to be Ilsuw in her .19 yoga pants.

>>167403113
No, im playing on git version and i deleted all the rc stuff that were in there last year somewhere

>>167403172
Ah, then you just like grunt. That's good, it's a nice fakelang.

>Love Qud
>Has been in development for like a decade
>There is still no ending
>It is unlikely that an ending will be released in the next few years
help me

>>167404010
It's the journey that matters.

>>167404010
With goons you lose

>>167404010
I give Biskup a lot of shit, but he's the only fucker who kept updating his game after it got monetized/kikestarted.

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>>167365908

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Did they seriously nerf labyrinth loot? This is fucking dogshit

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>>167406696
The arti is shit as well, not sure what i expected from a spear

>>167381009
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Surely not, it would be stupid broken to get it at like 150ft. Is this in PCB-R only?

>>167383825
Wait, you reforged Razorback? You fucking mad man!

>>167406976
Randart birth option.

>>167392830
>>167393907
What you playing as?

>>167377102
10,000 essences in each area I'm guessing, but theoretically if you got to 10,000 in everything what would your resistances be at? Stat boosts? I'm just curious, doubt I'll be autie enough to actually do it. I'm especially curious what your AC boost would cap out at, given that's the weak spot for death swords.

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Will the j ring hurt me too much? The -5 dex is kind of big..

>>167407907
MP+9 and Int+6 are cool, but *Contam is a big turn off, I'll throw it to lava because you probably need some resistance.

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NOPE

>>167377270
>edit the source code
come on anon I know it's easy enough to do, but if I was going to do that then I might as well wizmode. What's the point in playing if you're just gonna cheat?

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Do or die.
>>167407069
Wandmaster

>trove asks for 5 pots of resistance
Fugg

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That was a bit iffy until I destructed away Morgy near the end.

>>167408976
>tfw no 555

>>167408976
Wandmaster? PCB-R?

>>167410926
Only pseudoelliposchengband.

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sweatingman.jpg

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so not only can you not reforge ANY artifacts if you're playing a deathsword, but the weaponmaster won't even enchant weapons, instead telling you to go enchant yourself...
....which funnily enough actually works! I just got 3-4 levels worth of direct hit-dam weapon buffing this way. who knew?

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>>167410963
HAHA EAT SHIT

>>167407907
>Dex-5 for a Spriggan

into_the_trash_it_goes.jpg

>>167411184
Why are you selling stuff without ID'ing it before?

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>>167369580
>reaction pic indicating anything

>>167369460
>>167374165
>>167406364
Now thats a nice meme.For a child.

>>167374496
Go to bed,Goodra.

>>167402397
very useful buff

>>167408336
lol "oh hai guys bye"

>>167410627
jeez, morgoth showing up in the J fight is pretty scary

>>167406364
Love how he adjusts his hat after he falls

>>167413618
Shh. Let him have this, anon.

>>167413878
Isn't Goodra the slime pokemon?

>>167410627
>slightly under 1 K HP with unmaxed Con
That's a stupidly good liferating you got there, are you playing a demigod of Hades or a half titan? My tonberry monk had 1100 at maxcon and he had 108% life rating!
Or maybe devicemasters don't get hp maluses?

>>167406926
All PCBs, IIRC.

>17 minutes delay between posts
>page 10
What?

>>167406926
1/666 is a 33% chance, anon. It's pretty rare.

>>167420896
>Several threads on page 1 that consist of 90% image spam
Good shit.

>>167413618
By this implication I should be able to post this pony reaction image without any negative reaction.

>>167421260
Looks like we must
ROGUE
HARDER

How to deal with orc priests while I'm DeAs 5lvl

Evoke feet

>>167369580
>poppy o'possum
>furshit
maybe just a little bit yeah sure

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>>167422512
>furshit
Eeh. Kinda.

>>167422241
DEAs is a challenge combo because you don't have the starting tools to really take advantage of DE's strengths.

I recommend playing DECj(conjurer) like this:
>train conjurations until you can memorise searing ray(at XL2) then train conjurations/spellcasting 50/50 until you can memorise battlesphere. Then do Conjurations/Charms 50/50 until battlesphere is below, or around, 10% fail rate and then battlesphere + magic dart should carry you

Draconian conjurer is a more tanky version, with worse aptitudes, if you feel that you don't like DE's fragility.

played yred seriously for the first time and ayy lmao what fun cucking uniques into being your slave

whose the best? Saint Roka's infinite smites are pretty nice but it's hard to gauge exactly.

>>167423068
>ayy lmao what fun cucking uniques
Do people really type this kind of things unironically

>>167422730
Ian is no doubt a massive furry shitter but he's not a drama whore which is nice

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How dangerous is desolation of salt?

>>167423491
>but he's not a drama whore
Are we talking about the same green goblin here
also
>1 month and a half hiatus because I said so

>>167423619
It's a wide open areas with small pockets where you can barricade yourself in and fight slighty more sane amounts of enemies.

You should be good though, as a makheb Ds with powered by death, and the loot has always been pretty good for me.

>>167423619
just cast wall of stone and forest creation and you'll be fine.

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Damn I wish I could use items, this activation looks pretty good

>>167412763
I didn't?

>>167413618
>>167413750
>>167413878
>I'M ON THE OUTSIDE
>I'M LOOKING IN

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This might be my last fight, let's see if I can survive this

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>>167426682
Yeah this is better to fight here. Hephaestus and Ares dead now

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>>167427168
Hehe you can't escape, bitch, Artemis dropped her bow but I didnt check the rest of the loot yet

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>D:3 acq scroll

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

>>167428358
you should have asked for tummy protection

>>167365908
>>167369580
>>167422512
>>167422730
Pic related

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>>167429118
Wow take two

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On a minda related note, is it worth to wear heavy as fuck armor early? The penalties would be terrible and crippling, but all that AC in the Dungeon and even Lair makes you virtually immune to melee attacks.

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>>167423652
>green goblin
I'm pretty sure he's a cloud? or maybe a sentient glob of mercury that draws furry porn, I dunno
Also: yes, he had to take a hiatus so he could catch up on his patreon rewards, which was a little shitty for everybody who wasn't waiting for him to draw them their fairies in business suits but he's also drawing a bunch of bizarre porn so I dunno.

>>167429429
Heavier armour gets more GDR(guaranteed damage reduction) so I tend to just wear plate as early I can with heavy-melee chars.

>>167429429
You'd need the Armour skill for it to be useful. 14 AC and 23 Encumbrance is not a good trade as is. Higher Armour skill would boost the given AC pretty dramatically, but until then, it's literally bad for any early character.

>>167405845
CDDA is updated after kikening, though by totally different people. Does that count?

So I got the binding of issac rebirth last week, and I'm really enjoying playing it after work while I watch something in the background. Should I buy the DLCs for it?

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Demon whip of pain or demon whip of elec? Both +0.

>>167431578
Depends on your necro skill and how deep you are.

>>167431578
electrocution is better, unless you have high necro skill and are with kiku or something.

+3 hand axe or hand axe of chopping?

>>167432073
dont you have a weapon better than a hand axe

PCB

Is there a way to set the INI file to auto load a certain save upon opening the game? Or a command line argument so I can do so with a batch file?

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I didn't know this was a thing.

>>167432558
You can double-meme now:
>what is the best mobile roguelike?
>dda isn't a roguelike

>>167431171
>>167330371

>>167432240
i believe the command line option for *bands to load a specific save is -u<filename> (no space)

so if your save is named "swordguy" you would run poschengband.exe -uswordguy

not sure how it works with spaces in filenames

>>167432073
They're the same in terms of shittiness. You'd probably want the +3 hand axe, though, because the enchantment gives it more accuracy. Chopping is multiplicative and thus nearly useless for a weak weapon.

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what is this shit even, a yaktaur pack and a centaur warrior in a lair:2 portal?

I'd be completely fucked if I didn't have dig.

>>167432861
>not sure how it works with spaces in filenames
Standard is to wrap it in quotes
-u"Jews Did WTC"

>>167429491
>Mary loods
Oh gosh
Oh jeez

>>>/trash/

>>167435363
chibi-chaser.tumblr.com

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Oberon forgot to put on his acid resistance. Now he'll never need acid resistance again.

>PCB doesn't have the branding messages from vanilla angband
why not
i want "You dissolve him!" and "You smite him!" back

I'm fairly new to roguelikes and have been trying to get into dungeon crawl lately. I've been picking a minotaur fighter with an axe and I rarely even make it out of the initial dungeon levels. Can anyone give me any tips? Most of what I find online is in outdated videos where the person mostly just talks about a bunch of elementary stuff I already understand like the controls.

>>167437113
Walk away from dangerous things

fight in corridors

that's literally it, you've solved Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup

>>167437113
You don't have to fight everything you see. You probably shouldn't walk towards every new enemy you see, unless you're certain there's nothing dangerous/scary behind them (like a fuckton of more enemies, or a dangerous unique).

Be sure to examine anything brand new you see.

>>167437113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFXhkJJNUGo&index=1&list=PLfj09fCH4Mh5qpiOr2XibxQ84yGlIw4Rw

watch this

Alot of the things that make a good player are intuitive and come through experience, but you should be able to gleam some insight from these videos. They're pretty recent(started september 2015)

Things I've learned trying to get this shitty Death-Sword off the ground.

* It's easier to go punch a young dragon than spend an hour grinding in Stronghold 1.
* Dragon-Flies are a godsend.
* Orcs and ps are loot pinatas when you can step into a mountain and heal up after decking one.
* There's some sort of "fuck you" system to the teleports that leads to you landing near a mob 9 times out of 10.
* Death-Swords just aren't fun to play.

>>167437113
If you're playing webtiles, /rlg/ can spectate and help you out in dangerous situations and whatnot.

>>167437583
>>167437920
>>167438293
Thank you guys I will take your advice and watch those videos. I'm determined to actually beat this game instead of getting my ass handed to me.

>>167438564
I do usually play webtiles. I play on the Arizona server and my name is Oddant1 if you want to watch me get my ass handed to me. I'm gonna hop on and try out this tutorial series

>>167438564
You'll win for sure if you keep trying with MiBe, it's the absolute strongest race/background combo in the entire game, nothing even comes close.

>>167438826
It's the most likely to win a 3 rune game, but it's definitely not the strongest. You won't be clearing multiple Ziggs with a MiBe, for instance.

>>167439007
True, but at post-3 rune stage you can basically do whatever desu.

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>meet Hermes out of nowhere
>he summon Hades and Poseidon
>they summon more badguys
>well, this is the end
>Hermes, the messenger god teleports you away
Thank you, my friend. Also Im glad I wasnt my wearing my antitele amulet

>>167438502
rings are neat because they have unique gameplay
deathswords are just warriors with more grinding required to get good resists/damage/stats

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*skeleton nationalistic rattling intensifies*

>>167439407
What's all different? Built in teleports?

>>167439148
Even then, it's not *that* strong. Magic and stealth become much more attractive in the late game. The Berserker background takes away 1 Int point, nevermind the Minotaur's terrible magic aptitudes; and the -1 Stealth apt makes that same-named option more annoying than anything.

You could maybe chug away with Zin and TSO in the late game, but you'd be overwhelmingly relying on their abilities to keep you alive, rather making use of intrinsic properties of a MiBe.

>>167439921
i mean deathswords are just "melee guy who hits things in melee and gets better at hitting things in melee the more loot he finds"

rings learn new spells from eating jewelry with activations, which is neat/fun
plus they have the whole ringbearer mount thing going on
the point is they don't play exactly like an existing class but just grindier, like sword vs warrior

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>>167439201
Bye bye Zeus, all olympians are dead now !

>>167440042
>stealth
>relevant past midgam

>>167440064
Ok, ya sold on it. I tried ring a long while back (a few major revisions back) but, well, DS sounded more fun. On paper. Maybe if it was faster to get stronger or sturdier or something.

I have the early DS game down pretty solid, but what's the best way to start out a Ring? Absorb the free piece of jewelry and then glitter for a townsperson mob... but after that? Head into Stronghold 1? Head into the wilderness and look for a different body?

>>167440042
The strongest combo to do 15-rune is either a statue former^chei and Minotaur^TSO, have you ever even done 15-runes before?

>>167439879
do we have a rlg version of the "X ain't free" meme?

>>167441470
Rings aren't fun, don't be tricked. If anything, they're even grindier than deathswords because you're not guaranteed any early decent damage and spellcasting play takes 4 times as long as melee in real time.

A good start is stronghold to 5-thieves-warg-find good humanoid mount (lizard king)-grind as necessary.

>>167441470
around stronghold 4 you can spam glimmer trying to get a disembodied hand, which is something ridiculous like +15 or +25 speed (although it'll die instantly the first time you run into hounds because nohp)

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Never ever

>>167437113
As MiBe, don't be afraid to pop berserks,trog, and brothers in arms on anything you're unsure of. Might sound obvious but a lot of minotaurs love to think they can tab through everything.

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Do you people still play Incavead?

>>167447869
It's got that weird delay that makes it a little frustrating to play.

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>>167448135
>weird delay
Don't play in the webterminal, play with telnet. For me (europe) it's silky smooth.

>tfw finally got Angband with tiles to work

pleb and PROUD, motherfuckers

>>167448432
so you literally just downloaded it
it goes to tiles to default

>>167448486
if he's too retarded to recognize letters he probably had a lot of difficulty figuring out how to "download a file" or "run a program"

>>167448486
Not with the Linux/Source version. Requires some tinkering to get SDL working and disabling X11 at the config stage.

>>167448742
>Not with the Linux/Source version

They say a glass of Wine a day is good for you.

how can one man be uncasual enough to compile a rougelike from source but still casual enough to demand tiles

>>167449025
Maybe he's ironic

>>167449025
1) Compiling anything isn't really rocket science. It's literally just "skim through README or its equivalent; do relevant things; fix errors; make; rinse and repeat until it's working." It's not much more difficult than a roguelike itself, tbqh.

2) "Demand" is a bit much. I honestly just wanted to try out the tilesets, since I knew they were there but couldn't figure out how to get them working (until now).

>tfw no conquistador roguelike

>>167448609

Tiles were necessary to exist because AS whatever is simply trash to the eyes

>>167449656
>It's literally just "skim through README or its equivalent; do relevant things; fix errors; make; rinse and repeat until it's working."
It's literally harder than the most mentally demanding task 90% of people will ever face.
People who can actually use GNU/Linux are a tiny percentage of world's population.

>>167449656
many people give up at the point where they're expected to read + follow instructions, especially with computer shit for some reason
even more give up if they have to actually make judgements or decisions that aren't covered by the instructions

the average human is p. retarded anon

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>>167440637
Wew
I met the unicorn of order
I reduced it to 1 star of hp and then he finally summoned uniques, the destroyer, talos and huan
I managed to kill the unicorn and run away and managed to get only the destroyer to follow me, I had to burn a shit ton of !healing but the serpent fight will be easier without these bastards

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>>167450525
Nice. I wish the destroyer didnt disintegrate all the loot from the unicorn though, sad

>>167449871
>you'll never sail the seven seas with dicku's salty dog crew to conquer the new world and impregnate the locals

>>167432240
But why would you want to do that? It would only be worth it to save time if you were repeatedly reloading the same character over and over, why would you....... oh. never mind.

>>167436824
I concur

>>167438502
Can't tell what game you're referring to. Given many roguelikes share so many different terms, I do wish people would get into the habit of stating the game first if they're not replying to someone else to make it more obvious.

>>167450819
Why did you drink 5 potions of curing in a row?

>>167452050
Sometimes when he shatter I dodged behind the new walls, it give me some free turns until he is in range again so I can spam !curing instead of using my precious !healing

>>167449656
>1) Compiling anything isn't really rocket science. It's literally just "skim through README or its equivalent; do relevant things; fix errors; make; rinse and repeat until it's working." It's not much more difficult than a roguelike itself, tbqh.

you forgot "consult stackoverflow"

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>>167450819
Fuck unmakers, this shit is horrible

Does disintegration kill artifacts as well?

>>167453961
Nope.

>>167453961
artifacts are immune to item destruction, although everything on the ground that ISN'T an artifact will be destroyed by shit like disint/chaos/mana

artifacts can be destroyed/removed from the level by earthquakes or destruction though

>>167451304

Because Death Swords die stupidly fucking fast early game.

Aww, they nerfed Android Rune Knights eh? Pasta is probably super out of date heh.

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>>167455552
Then just don't play rune swords then anon

>>167455697
Yeah, the good old times are dead.

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>When you find so many cram rations on the surface you'll never die of starvation

bye

>>167453037
but anon curing doesn't restore hp....

>>167458232
!curing restores 50 hp and cures debuffs
_curewounds is just the 50hp part,
and _curing is just the cure-debuffs part

this is just devices having shitty inconsistent names
see also !enlightenment vs _enlightenment vs -clairvoyance

>>167455552
Only if you're stupid, but that's ok I totally believe you're not savescumming, honestly your reason is totally legit and not at all a poor excuse.

Well, damn. Rings and Death Swords are too grindy, and they nerfed Android RKs... Guess they only really nerfed the infinite money exploit, though, it wasn't too bad I suppose.

Someone suggest something in PCB to try? I'm having choice shock.

>>167458374
so a staff of curing only cures debuffs but a potion heals 50hp as well? my understanding was that curing just does debuffs in both potion and staff form, but a staff of cure wounds does most debuffs with 50hp on top?

>>167458423

Let me correct myself. Death Swords scumming the mountains to skip to level 5-10 or so die stupidly easy.

>>167458460
Try centipede, just so I don't feel totally alone. It is hard though. If you don't want anything too challenging though.... hmm.... try the demonform that ends up as a marilith. you get to simultaneously wield 6 weapons at final evolution, which sounds ridiculously awesome but I haven't managed to get that far with it.

>>167458589
Why do that when you can just go to about 200ft for the same effect only far less risky? if you're trying to save time it would make more sense than setting it up to constantly reload the same character. I would like to think that there's no way you're that impatient, but people on /rlg/ seemingly need to jump to level 30 in 30 minutes otherwise they get itchy. do all autists have ADHD or something?

>>167458580
Potion of curing: 50 hp and removes statuses
Staff / spell of curing: removes statuses (mostly useless except as a hallucination remover)
Staff of cure wounds: 50 hp

Dumb but true.

>>167459091
staff of cure wounds definitely does more than just 50hp, it removes a bunch of debuffs too. I'm wondering if it's different between vanilla and PCB-R though....

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>>167459164
Maybe it can heal more if you get a higher power one, I don't know.

>>167458374
Also !ccw is 6d8 heal so !curing is better if you want a guaranteed 50hp heal

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All right, finlly some big guys
Time to quaff that invuln potion so I can spend a few turn without quaffing, and maybe I will live long enough to kill them
I have a ton of pots so Im confident I can win, if I dont get overwhelmed by manastormers and ancient dragons

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Damn this Lajatang of speed is tempting, consideing min-delay is 0.4 and I can wear it with a shield since I'm a formicid.

But Axes + Makhleb is just too good.

>>167460086
Good luck!

you'll need it

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>>167460086
Serpent is running for his life!
I got double manastormed at one point and fell to 100 hp, but I can probably survive the fight, Morgoth still got half his hp though

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>>167460684
Must not die now... Its not over

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>>167461058
Morgy dont run you bastard... I have to get out of here or he will spam spells forever

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>>167461363
Ok, I think I won now, I dont see how I could die from these guys

>>167459164
staff of HEALING removes debuffs on top of its healing effect
staff of cure wounds does not

Hm. PCB Dragons... Steel Dragon felt pretty damn strong, might play with that.

I hear Tonberry is the absurdly OP race of the moment, though?

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>>167461625
The loot was disappointing desu, Ill have to make a visit to heaven or hell to feel better

>>167462534
Tonberry monk synergizes very strongly. Balrog warrior/swordmaster's pretty good as well.

>>167463152
What other races are good for monk?

>HuFi of Ash, training Axes
>Just enter Lair:1
>Sweet, a Volcano opening
>Shit, a seven-headed hydra
>and I've got my +2 axe cursed to me.
>Cheese it to the portal, maybe I can clear this and find a flaming axe for the hydra when I get ou-
>"Hahaha, nope, fuck you, you get a red draconian, a two-headed ogre, an ogre mage, and a molten gargoyle, all at once"
>"You've got a ring of resist fire, so it should be fine, right?"

FUCK YOU, CRAWL

FUCK YOU

Why the fuck is there an OGRE MAGE in a Lair:1 sub-branch, let alone a goddamn draconian, fucking hell