/scg/edg/ Star Space Dangerous Citizen Elite General #127: Musician's

First for ED a shit and SC a scam.

dads or cultists

which is more toxic?

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Deja vu, we've had this thread before.

>>167280983
>/scg/edge general #127

Thank you CMDR Obvious.

Is 17D still shitting the bed or are conflict zones spawning now?

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>>167281290

Jumping around now between game modes, starting/resetting the game. No missions.

>>167280983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA

Who /underground racer/ here?

My 350R will be pimped out with the best gear.

How is 17d different from any other civil war system?

>>167283046

The factions at 17D give an abnormal amount of missions, and they'll almost always be massacre missions due to the system being so remote. Often times it'd give a full 20 missions worth of massacre missions, and you could stack them together, go grind it out on the CZ, and return and cash in anywhere from 50 million all the way to 300 million for a couple hours worth of work.

>>167283174
Are there any requirements to get all of this cash?
Or could I do this with a p shitty cobra mkIII?

>>167283271

They're firing rails and plasma, so expect to die from an errant shot if you wander out into open to do it. (You can't solo it, I think)

But so long as you're tagging a some and they die, you'll get credit, and you'll complete them.

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man sucidewinder a dad in a cutter that costed him 30 mil

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let me save you 30 minutes

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>NPCs now have plasma, rails and missiles
>that almost completely ignore heat buildup

What were they thinking

>>167285138
how
need proof

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>>167280420
that's a really cool pic, which game is it from
;_;

>>167286580
Star Citizen, it's an imagination game where we talk about really cool things we'd want in a hypothetical super-game that can't work and never will.

>>167284686
>>167283271

You can solo it, but depending on your loadout it may be incredibly difficult. With a Cobra, you'll have a lot of trouble but if you want to try, play your ship to it's strengths. Cobra has a pretty decent hull tank so throw some hull and module reinforcements on it and make sure you A-fit your thrusters. Cobra is fast as fuck so you can easily out run any ship that gives you a hard time. The trick to CZ's is to knock out as many smaller ships as you can early on so that your friendlies will all gank the same ships. When you drop in, look for an enemy that is getting fucked and has no shields, and wail on it with your friendlies. Stick to wolf pack tactics and don't stray too far from allies. If the going gets rough, low wake out and back in. If you start noticing that there are more enemies around than friendlies, low wake immediately and back in to reset the instance. It'll be tough in a Cobra but definitely doable, and after a few goes at it you'll be able to get yourself a DBS or Vulture if you do very well (that is if 17D ever starts working again.) I'd recommend buying a Viper and A-fitting it and trying that, since it'll be a lot easier to dodge PAs and railguns with a Viper than with a Cobra.

>>167285854

Because otherwise CZs and NPCs in general are piss easy. I somewhat like it like this since it forces you to use your brains but it's ridiculous that no matter what, EVERYONE will have rails and PAs. I have no idea why they don't scale it to make low-intensity CZs have enemies with actual weapons and high-intensity CZs have enemies like they are now.

Also it's always fun when for no particular reason, every enemy in a CZ turns to fuck your shit and you get hit by 8 different railguns at the same time.

>>167283046
there are only 2 factions that ever go to war in 17dongs so the missions spawn like crazy for each one.

>>167287024
>every enemy in a CZ turns to fuck your shit and you get hit by 8 different railguns at the same time.
This is part of why I'm hesitant to outfit for combat and actually go into a CZ

>>167285854
the only thing that fucking sucks about NPCs is that they don't give a shit if you're in silent running or not, they'll still hit you.

>>167286286
it's easy anyone can do it.

turn shields off
bang up your sidey a little bit, so it's like a love tap away from death
wait for said dad to be undocking and going through the mail slot
fly into them and die
the station then kills them

most people (dads included) forget that if you're going faster than 100m/s near the mail slot you're technically speeding, if you're speeding and you hit some one you get a reckless flying fine, but if you're speeding and some one crashes into you and they die you're technically their murderer so the station fires all guns on you.

>>167287352
I'm gonna do this. Does this get rid of bounties?

>>167287147

If 17D takes off, go there in Open, you'll have a lot of /edg/lords there farming kills. All you need to do is get one shot in an enemy and it'll count for your missions. Contrary to what you might hear about people in Open, there's a lot of good people there and 17D is a great example of everyone working together to get fat stacks of cash.

Also if you're a newfriend in a Cobra or Viper or any other cheaper ship, don't worry about getting killed too much. Your rebuy is probably going to be pretty small. Most of the time, you'll always have enough time to jump out to safety if your shields get knocked out. Remember to be smart in a CZ and you should do fine.

>>167287591
yeah just like any death it puts them as dormant

>>167287682
>>167287591
add me we'll wing as a crew of law enforcers at the cg
CMDR courcyplayer

>>167287661
have the CZs and missions started spawning at the 10+7 dragons yet?

>>167286962
Don't be silly, I'm sure we'll have VR that can simulate everything Star Citizen strives for in a few decades.

>>167287873

Doesn't look like it. I'm waiting for another kind anon to confirm when it is good to go before I haul my ass all the way over there.

>>167287873
>>167288513
I just checked, nothing but donations yet. No conflict or CZs either. Skimmers still work for missions right?

>>167288597

Unless the mission specifically asks to destroy skimmers, they do not count towards other missions such as massacres.

>>167288437
Then start working on it now, it's not just gonna pop up.

>>167287164
Thats fair enough so long as they're using fixed weapons. Quite a few of my favourite moments with ED were with a Vulture I fitted with two large fixed beams before they the nerfed power supply shitting on dads who use chaff as a crutch and then try to run away in a perfectly straight line in silent running. Plenty of juicy hackusations. That said time on target was complete dogshit as soon as anyone was clever enough to juke but they rarely were. ED is pretty much space jousting: the game.

>>167285472
The TLDR is kinda interesting

https://relay.sc/transcript/around-the-verse-the-music-of-squadron-42

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>>167290643
Pastebin it pls.

>>167290178

>space jousting
>he doesnt drift strafe enemies while playing eurobeat

>>167287873
>>167288513
>>167288597

I'm wondering if we should start getting worried that they stealth fixed it.

Alright lads I think it's time to try exploration. Any tips?

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Now just to check if the CZ is up before accepting these

What should I upgrade to from my diamondback explorer? Liking the multirole ships so far

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>>167291759

>>167291226

Quite a few in the last thread
>>167200551
>>167201040
>>167202237
>>167202360
>>167203919
>>167204127
>>167207987
>>167208614

>>167291958

Python would be a good next step if you have the cash for it.

Jesus, all the cool shit is rare. I've been exploring and I've come across one Neutron Star. And a decent amount of class As. That's it.
Are black holes and the like really that rare?
I mean I know they are, naturally, but damn.

>>167290949
Not much point when after the first pass their shields would be down and I could just spin 180 in FA-OFF and finish them off. I tried all kinds of fancy shit on launch and nothing quite matched up to scaring the shit out of them and then blowing out their ass as they ran away.
Vulture used to be absolutely godlike. I remember upgrading to a Python and trading it in one day later because it wasn't even half as good.

>>167292107

They become more common with higher star density. There are fuckhuge fields of them out near the galactic core. Also neutrons and white dwarfs.

>>167287661
ohhhh mah lawdddd dis gonna be funnnnn

>>167292328
Oh nice. That's pretty sweet. Planning on hitting up Sag. Prime eventually. So, good to know it'll be interesting.

Anything worth checking out on the arms or the galactic edge?

>>167287779
I added you a little while ago but I think you hate me.

>>167281684
Same with Fehu

no you didn't no space between courcy and player

>>167293054
Im the noob who added you a while ago.

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I have almost 200mil to burn and I want a good combat ship for those massacre missions.
What's a good loadout?

>>167292761

Crushing hopelessness as you look back at the galaxy in the distance and there's nothing around you but emptiness and death.

OK where on earth do you buy a 6C first class cabin

>>167294838
jamason memorial

>>167294838
https://eddb.io/
This kind of shit should be in the OP.

>>167294879
>not Elite in anything
Shit.

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I've been warning my buddy about EA for a while, but he keeps getting his hopes up about ME Andromeda. He just sent me this. I hope he is ok.

Should I try to turn him to SC now, or wait until he is more angry? I think he is just sad now.

Cargo rack, or passenger cabin on an explorer? Picking up stuff along the way seems like a decent way to bring in some extra cash

>>167295117
>buying into Mass Effect after 3
we don't need any more retards here

>>167295431
AspX I'd go with a cabin for extra explorer cash.
Anything bigger I'd try picking both.

>>167295431
64t of fuel

what a shit game

>exploration takes a fuckbillion years to detailed surface scan planets in a system

I regret everything about this choice. Oh my God.

>>167297102
Only scan Neutron stars, Black holes, Earth-likes and Water worlds

>>167297510
How do you find these? Just pick a spot and go?

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>>167297724

>>167297724
Filter map by non-sequence stars, those are black holes and neutron stars. Rare, but there are areas in our galaxy where they are more common.

im finding no one at the cg what happend

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>Just heard about confirmed release date for The Commanders
>Check the Dev Update thread
>Really loving what I see, an actual fucking step in the right direction for people to do shit with each other
>Scroll down and already see a dad bitching about magically being transported to another player's ship
>2 people jump on him saying how this is finally a step to interact with others and that gameplay has to win out over immersion here
Things are finally going right for this god damn game. Its beautiful. I also see Frontier is still leading Explorers on a wild goosechase for more information on the ayy's and the Formidine Rift.

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>>167295571

I mean, what game franchises last long with EA at the helm?

>>167298843

Don't worry, there's plenty of time for Frontier to tweak it into something utterly mediocre and unpleasant.

That's kind of their thing.

2.2 looked promising in the exactly the same manner at first.

>>167299785
Ehh I disagree. I never found Fighters from the start that appealing without having a player to fly it.

So, have The
guardians gcreated the Thargoids? That would be dumb

>>167298843
>being an ADD/ADHD sociopath
call of dooty is that a way, son
now, this is a simulation for grown ups

>>167299984
Holy fuck did i have a stroke while typing this

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>Browsing the Elite Store
>Most ships have less than three things for sale
>Cobra MKIII has 39

>>167300118
you know for a fact there is a dad out there that had one for each day of the month and the rest for special occasions.

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>>167299990
I know you're just acting like a dad but fuck you anyway for reminding people type shit like this unironically.

>>167300290
All memes aside, is there a way we could reach a compromise with the dads in this matter?

>>167299990
Do you feel in control LARPer?

>>167300425
You cannot compromise with the dads because they do not play other video games and thus need absolute control over this one. You'll argue for 20 years and then become one as well.

That being said, opinions are slowly turning, if gulag posts are any indication.

>>167300207
>tfw Dad is still playing his game on my birthday
>tfw he tells me he has a special surprise for me
>his ship is a special color he only uses one day a year
>it's available all days of the year
>tfw you just want a normal birthday
>tfw he buys you a commodore 64 in 2017
>he wants me to appreciate "the classics"
>tell him its all garbage bull shit inferior in all ways to what we have today
>he kills himself
>find his computer
>tfw see he still has my birthday color on his ship
>delete his save

>>167300425
Absolutely not. Best case scenario is we drive the dads away from Elite like they did the rest of the player base.

>>167299876

We were also supposed to get instantaneous ship and module transfer because quality of life consideration but you saw how that turned out.

>>167300425
No. Its been proven time and time again they're ultimately too deep in their delusion. Its either 100% immersion or nothing. No compromises that aren't for immersion. If its not furthering the game as a job-sim they'll bitch and moan endlessly. I hope Frontier continues their attempts to ignore them for the Commanders.

>>167300837
If they want immersion so bad they should give them only online and real time physics kek
7 real years to get somewhere

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>people actually fly the keelback

>>167300980
they should also keep all the ships floating in space as they logout
want a safe logout? log while in a hangar

>>167300784
Did frontier really scrap that because of forum dads?
I thought they even took a poll and the majority said it was fine?

>>167300980
>only online
Unacceptable Anon. Other players saying something over chat or killing you in seconds then stealing your shit breaks immersion.
These are things they have actually said on the forums

>>167300980
But you see thats the thing. Their definition of immersion is disgustingly warped between being actual immersion and making sure nothing intrudes their safe space of mindless repetition.

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>>167300705
>delete his save

>>167301164
>actually threatening pirates and assassins break your immersion
pusssies
either you go 100% immersion or you don't

>>167301114
Dads would absolutely lose their minds, even though that sounds dad as fuck.
I mean if you really use dad logic that's the only way the game should progress.
No closing the game whenever you want, otherwise you get a retarded Animal Crossing-esque punishment.
Fuck it no hyperspace, make traveling even more tedious.
Get rid of all flight assistance.
Increase the gravitational lock on large masses.
Larger insurance costs because 20k for a 400k ship with 500k of gear makes no sense.
Dads need the dad dick.

>>167301420

>Increase the gravitational lock on large masses.

Of all the things in this game, this one irritates me the most. Hell, actually all of supercruise just makes no fucking sense.

>going to a station
>accidentally put the thrust just a bit above the blue line
>overshoot it because deceleration is slow since im so close to the station
>this make sense because space is big!
>target another body far from me
>instant deceleration

I've actually used the "target something else" trick to instantly decelerate myself to save from overshooting. Why do they do this?

>>167301376
It would be funny if every time a shooting star hit your hull your ship got a little fucked up.
As well as other space debris and dust hitting the ship in hyperspace.
That could mean dads would have to dock nearly every other system instead of just jumping 15 times in a row.
They'd love it :^)

>>167301013
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1sgN_K8ttE

>>167301639
>supercruise
>dropping out into the orbit of planets
>dropping out in general
There is no real justification besides hiding loading screens.
The way gravity works in normal space makes no sense, the way gravity behaves in supercruise or hyperspace w/e the fuck is childish science fiction.
Yet dads love these parts of the game...

>>167294636
Well, now I have to go.

Also, just started my return trip from a lengthy passenger mission.
I have my filter for only refueling stars, blacks, neutron, etc, etc...

The problem is that I keep hitting systems I already scanned. Which is pretty gay, I want double the exploration. Aka, a different route home.

Is there a way to filter out visited stars?

>>167301793
>The way gravity works in normal space makes no sense
will they ever add weather? wind, rain, sandstorms, etc...
because that would be funny to see how

>>167301975
>Is there a way to filter out visited stars?
I recall a filter for "visited" and "non visited" systems, yeah.
Try messing up with the left panel.

>>167302057
>having your hull ripped up by an electric space storm
Dads wont defend this.
That was my first thought before I bought the game, I really hoped a space game would finally do space weather.

how many dads have you slain during this CG anons?

I'm up to 23.

>>167301975
>lengthy passenger mission
nigguh if you're the same guy who just started exploring a few hours back, you're fucking small time
t. on my way back from a TWO WEEKS passenger mission
I wonder if year-long explorer anon is still around, a hero among true fags

>>167302228
i got 8 a cutter whos rebuy was 30 mil a fed corvet probably 20 mil a anaconda python fdl the list goes on

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>Missions aren't being offered in high enough number
>Sometimes the CZ disappears

This will probably be working better tomorrow, right

>>167302207
I meant in planets, maybe when atmosphere planets are a thing, will they ever?
space weather like that could have been cool too, yeah

>>167301125

They took a poll and said it was just to gauge opinion, and that nothing would change unless, and only maybe, the response was overwhelming.

The result was moderately split, but they did it anyway.

They most likely decided to do it before the poll ever went up and were just looking for some way to justify it to the community.

Why would they even consider it in the first place after letting the playerbase get hype?

Backpedaling and disrespecting the player's time is just their modus operandi and always has been.

>>167302516
Space isn't as boring as space sims make it out to be.
I feel like a good space sim would make the environment its self a hazard, because space is full of crazy shit.
Going at FTL speeds with particles around you and all that friction should have at least some sort of repercussion.

>>167302120
I think it only filters IN visited stars. Which is the exact opposite of what I want kek.

>>167302296
>you're fucking small time
No shit. As I've stated was only like 3500ly to the star in question and now I'm on my way back. Longer than anything I've done by like 3000ly. My first go at it.
And I did it in my Vulture cause I'm a fucking madman. Even though I have my credits lined up for my AspX. I just wanted to start.

>year-long explorer anon is still around
Few threads back, someone said they just returned from a year long flight I think. Made like 200mil in exploration creds.

>>167302656
>exploration creds.
I have 0 but I have rank in exploration.
How the fuck do I get creds?

>>167302718
Turn in your pages at a starport. Under the Universal Cartographics tab.

>>167301657
So...what was he packin in that keelback? I'm not sure what I just witnessed. How'd he drop a python so fast with missiles?

>>167302718
I think completed passenger missions count for exploration rank.
Last general someone posted a thread from the forums with dads complaining about it for whatever reason.

>>167302718
Oh, if you died you lose all your potential earnings though. Soooooo hopefully you haven't kicked it recently.

>>167302902
Fucking dads. If you're out there scanning stars, that's literally exploration.

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I'm on a trip to Colonia ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

So many jumps. This was a mistake.

So is Pulse/Beam/Burst just a sliding scale of efficiency/DPS?

>>167301639
>I've actually used the "target something else" trick to instantly decelerate myself to save from overshooting. Why do they do this?

If they didn't the window to drop within the safe distance of a station or location would be impossible to catch.

The ship is only simulating a planet-sized mass so you can maintain control for the approach. If you try the same thing was a real mass like a planet, changing targets doesn't help you decelerate and you'll still overshoot.

Of course then the question becomes: If the ship is only simulating the mass for the SC approach, why doesn't it also prevent overshooting automatically since there isn't actually a huge gravity well fucking with the FSD?

>>167302368

CZs don't randomly disappear, but you do have to be within 1000ls of it to see it unless you've previously spotted it within the current session.

What do you think will be the largest population demographic of star citizen when it releases? (lel)

Will it mostly be carebear dads, 15 year olds trying and failing to be pirates, or competent human beings? My money is on carebear dads.

>>167303463

The station is only 142ls from it. I'd see it if it was there. (I also use my scanner, no dice.)

>>167303106

Follow up:

Is it worth it (for PvE) to go all pulse lasers?

I'm using a mix of Multicannons/beam now, but I am annoyed at running out of ammo, and how fast those beams burn through my thermals. Like, holy shit.

>>167302902
>>167302975

Exploration Elite requires very few credits earned because scanning payout is utter shit. At release it was only 60mil, then they later doubled exploration payout (double nothing is still nothing lol) and bumped the requirement for Elite up to 160mil.

Since passenger missions can award millions and count for exploration rank, but they didn't bump up the rank requirement again, players are getting Elite in days with passenger deliveries that took the dads literal months to do scanning planets.

>>167303915
kek faggots

>>167303896
What are you flying? Beam should be faster but not retarded fast.

>>167304264

Python *A. 2 Multi on largest, 3 beam on everything else. I get a few seconds of concentrated fire, but most of the time I feel like I'm tailing the enemy and twiddling my thumbs (even with all energy to weapons)

Trying to decide if I should try 5 Burst or 5 Pulse.

>>167303896

Beam is up-front burst damage. Highest laser DPS but bad distributor draw and heat generation. Good for alpha strike or if you spend a lot of time off target (eg: jousting/evading) and you'll recharge/cool off between passes.

Burst and pulse have the same distributor draw but burst has slightly higher DPS at the cost of higher heat generation. This means bursts have the highest efficiency in converting your WEP capacitor into damage and therefore higher sustained damage if you stay on target all the time with your cap run dry. Assuming you can handle the heat vs cooler pulses, anyway.

>>167304673
I liked 2 MC, 2 Pulse, then a fixed Beam on the chin. Hadn't even touched engineering, so it was stock and I found it useful.

Did any of you guys complete that mission dealing with alien ruins? is it only one or is there a mission for every ruin? I believe they've found 3 so far.
YT and google don't help much, and that big ass thread in the forums is a pain to navigate.

>>167304673
What class are your Power Plant and Distributor?

>>167304857

A's. This was my baby I built after the last set of 17D, so I maxed out everything I could.

>>167304857
Fuck, I keep forgetting to take that off.

>>167304857


https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/python?code=A2pptkFfljduspf5-----040402034f052d2dm9320iv62f.Iw18eQ%3D%3D.Aw18eQ%3D%3D.

It's meant to be an all-around sort of ship, so that's why it has planetary hangers and a cargo rack.

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Its so fun to bully Vultures who are bounty hunting in haz-res. They don't know what they're doing and let an unengineered Cobra 3 push their shit in. I popped one guys drives and left him sitting there, who knows if he is aware of the reboot button. I know I'm a part of what makes this game bad but it feels so good.

>>167304705

Note that engineering can completely change things up. Efficient mod on beams dramatically cuts down on their heat and distributor while not impacting their damage much.

Same thing happens to pulse and burst sure, but since distributor draw significantly under your WEP recharge/sec is just wasted damage potential it's not always the best idea to make too many low-energy weapons even lower-energy.

>>167302882

He has seeker missiles in the small hardpoints and torpedo pylons in the mediums. Not sure what mods the missiles have but the torps are reverberating cascade, which causes them to directly damage the shield generator when they explode against the shields.

All four hit and did enough damage to the generator to knock it out entirely.

Had he known enough to suspect that a trolly setup (interdicted by a freighter lol) would probably be packing a trolly loadout, he could have just backpedaled and shot down the torps with his chin gun because they fly so fucking slow and you literally have to ram into them to get hit.

>>167305196

How much can engineering help, exactly?

It is something small like 10-20%? Or can it go up to like 50%?

I've never done it, and only heard it really mentioned in terms of "Rolls" so I assume it's something like what the enchanter does in Diablo 3 for item stats.

>>167306053
Engineering completely changes a ship, and if you do it right in most cases it's just a flat upgrade.
It's possible to give the Cutter 5000+ MJ shields, an Anaconda with a 60 ly jump range, and a bunch of other crazy shit.
Now it's pretty much impossible to fight an engineered ship if you don't have one yourself.

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>>167306053

The difference is like going from E grade to A grade all over again if you choose mods that play to your weapons' strengths and get good rolls on the outcome.

Like for instance Overcharged grade 5 on multicannons can result in ~35% more damage with a drawback of ~50% more distributor draw.

But since multis are low distro draw in the first place this means going from say 23 to 31 damage while distro draw goes from 1.0 to 1.5 on a large multicannon. By comparison a single pulse laser of the same size draws 2.8, so 1.5 is still fucking nothing.

Then there's the chance of getting a special effect that can be a game changer. eg: one of your weapons gets corrosive effect, which means your target takes 20% more hull damage. So that same multicannon above is now doing ~37 damage vs hull for the same 1.5 energy.

>>167306053
Fuck yeah i did a little engineering on my light fighter courier. all i really did was upgrade the thrusters and i boost up too 550 and my speed at 4 pips is like 400. I still have weapons and shields and shit too so i can kill all the speedy cobra mkIII dads.

space depression is taking over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinWA0EenDY

>>167306713
>>167306898

Well, that's horrifying power levels I was not ready for.

That changes things.

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How can a ship look this fat and fun.

Tell me about these Neutron Highways, /edg/

Worth the effort?

>>167308361
Yes. Can save you an actual hour or more depending on distance.

>>167308361
Very much so. Do be careful if you're carrying a passenger that they won't flip their shit because you're taking next to no hull damage from itl.

>>167308768

Skimming neutrons for FSD boosts doesn't cause hull damage unless you fall out of SC inside the stream.

In which case your passenger won't be upset for very long.

>>167308853
Does Module damage not count? Because your FSD takes a VERY minor hit.

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how long you been following this game, /scg/?

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>ten centimetres from touch down
>[mission updated]
DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE

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>>167309980
since i bought it in November 2012

>>167309980
since I completed freelancer in 2001.

>>167312358
>Freelancer
>2001
:thinking:

>>167312835
(alternate timeline)

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>>167309980
Early Nov 2012. Thought about it for a week or so then tossed in for a lancer.

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>>167313026
wtf... thats not the image I meant to post.

2011-1994D isn't spawning any missions that make money :(

>>167290774
http://pastebin.com/tmqyYREb

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>>167291759
Nothing but lies.

>>167313150
>>167314996

I found those in a private group one. Did those, but I was unable to get anymore. It's really, really inconsistent.

>>167309980
Bought in July 2013, been around /scg/ since that one time Lando "accidentally" leaked 40GB of assets.

>>167315776
keks. pretty sure that was a legit accident, they were not happy.

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grenades are fine citizen

>>167317698
3.0 in july 3303?

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Keep refreshing your Pages folks. I had to clear my donation missions before getting the ones I wanted.

>finally see a few massacre missions
>mission failed
>mission failed
>mission failed
>mission failed
Good job, frontier.

>>167290774
>'dream'
>Has a giant bar across the very center of the cockpit

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>>167318686
mission failed mission failed mission failed
mission failed mission failed mission failed
mission failed mission failed mission failed
mission failed mission failed mission failed

Maybe if you faggots would shut up about the location or at least use a codeword we might be able to harvest some sheckles.
>STFU

>>167320254
>You must be a 4chan Plus user to read this post

>>167320296
Would be nice.. but then we have retards like >>167318237 who post here

>>167320585
He needs to learn how to use the snip tool.

>>167320254
Considering these bugs are months old, you should stfu.

>>167320619
No shit they are old, so stop drawing fucking attention to them we all know about them all ready if you want e-cred go back to plebbit faggot

>>167317698
At last, something to do on those long supercruise trips.

>>167321007
>muh sekrit club

>>167321110
>you must be 18+ to post here

>>167321301
What does that even have to do with his post. Insulting sekret club mentality is not exactly associated with being underageb&.

>>167321301
Then stop posting. 17D has been a known place for over a year, FD either doesn't care or can't do anything, stop pretending it's some elite 4chan secret, it's not.

when stackin 17d do I need to pick the same faction or can I do all?

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If ArenaNet was in charge of Elite Dangerous, they'd literally patch 17D and take away all the credits earned from it and ban people who farmed it, and tell them to write a letter of apology to the devs before getting unbanned.

Please stop bullying Braben's team.

Are CZs okay to do in an unengineered FDL?

>Bought vulture
>2kk left
>Buy a FSD so I can get somewhere
>Buy a multi-cannon
>Buy some trahs shield available
>1,3kk left
>Rebuy is at 450k+
>Still getting btfo at CZs

Is there anyway to tell how many jumps the calculated route will take without counting it manually

>>167323120
Left panel

>>167323031
>>167322381
The trick of getting gud at CZ is to avoid being randomly focused by npcs by any means including task kill. You can't do much when five enemy ships ignore everything and focus on you anyway.

>>167323208
I mean in the galaxy map

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Here is a clip of me getting jumped in my Cutlass. It was unwatchable once I compressed it down to fit directly here, so here is a link to the clip instead.

https://a.uguu.se/zQe6PKsNfWeF_that%27smyline.webm

With the SH after me and all the NPC pilots still alive, I had no choice but to leave. I'm not mad at the guy or anything. He did exactly what I would do, attack while your target is attacking something else.

The only reason I posted this clip was that when I realized I was getting jumped by a player, I raged for a second because I was irritated someone was interrupting my comfy lil sesh. I snapped out of that and decided I wasn't going to be a trophy and dumped all my missiles at him before realizing I couldn't win that fight.

PvP is awesome and I fault no one for bringing the heat. Heart rate definitely shot up seeing a player name, and that's good. The balance for a random encounter was pretty good. I had just enough time to react to avoid serious damage, and I could turn fast enough in boost to actually fight for a turn or two.

>>167321674
>his
>>167324313
>that link
nope

>>167324350
google uguu.se it's a temp file hosting site with 100mb limit for 24 hours. It embeds with 4chanx.

>>167324350
Anon, are you ok?

>>167324419
>>167324313
mixtape.moe is better

>>167324634
>Server Transfers — Due to a lack of funds, we are losing our Main Dedicated Server today, because of this, Mixtape (and other Sapphire services) will go down to complete transfers to other servers on our network.

I tried to upload there too, but it fails.

>>167321784
Much more efficient to stack from one faction only. Say you take 20 missions from one faction and 80 kills will complete them all. If you'd taken 10 from each you'd only be half done.

is it over? CZ is gone and I'm not getting massacre anymore

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new ship?

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>>167325223
Old ship from the earlier games

>>167325223
They're really pushing the boundaries of ship design there. It's a brave new world now.

>>167325324
>>167325223
Looks fake

>>167325103
Try switching modes, they nerfed mission spawnrate it seems.

another cutter down at the cg 40 mil these people just like speeding

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>>167326113
You're going god's work son
oh wow this captcha

anyone want to join my new player group the 14th rent a cop legion we make sure people are following the speed laws at cg's

>That fucking AtV
5 minutes about the music would have been more than enough. It's cool and all but I honestly don't give that much of a shit.

I would have much preferred a segment on the creatures that the UK office was working on.

Fucking hell, CIG.

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>>167328047
The pacing is bad the last quarter of the segment is pretty good.

What's the ETA on RTV?

>>167328191
>RTV
Don't you mean Star Citizen Happy Hour(tm) with Jared Huckaby and Tyler Witkin?
8pm UTC, but don't expect anything meaningful.

>>167328191
RtV is dead, anon.

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i got a treat for you guys

>>167328698
>>167328860
>Costed
I hope you get ganked, CMDR.

>>167323031
The trick i found is waiting to join a side until either i boost away or the fights well underway.

Little patience goes a long way.

>>167328698
>>167328860

not trolling hard enough

I like the rent a cop idea though.

>>167330197
i didn't screen cap it but they reported me and of course said were going to go do something productive now kid

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>>167330647
run back to your parents kiddo you're wasting my time

>>167330647
>Reminder that grown men reported you to David Braben because they got upset.

>>167330821
>>167330837
i its not like i did it randomly i posted these 3 things in local chat ever min or so
remember speed kills cut your speed to >100m/s

don't waste your bounties cut your speed to >100m/s

flying fast could lead to a fine 5% of your total ship cost. don't speed

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>>167328698
>>167328860
>costed

>>167331079
FUCK I'M A AUTIST

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>>167330992
Delusional dads think they're above the law. Reminder that each daddy you kill gets you edg points that you can redeem for a Archon Delaine dakimakura.

>>167331215
so what does it mean that i killed 2 cutters for 70 mil credits and one corvet for 20 mil

>>167331215
Whats the best way to identify if the player is a dad?

>>167330992
>>100m/s
That means GREATER THAN, you dumbfuck.

>>167330821
>implying a dad would ever fly a clipper

>>167334743
But that's a cutter.

>>167334874
i can never tell the two apart

>>167333068
usually

>cmdr name is semi serious / RP name / their own name
>flies a cobra mk3 or something multirole
>if you interdict them they panic

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>>167335103
>tfw have a full name from an animu
>dads think i'm one of them
send help

>>167334992
Cutter looks a bit more like a dildo

>>167335505
>full name from an animu
you are worse than any dad

>>167335898
and the clipper looks like a private jet

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>>167335898

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>>167335505

>tfw have a full name from a gay pornstar
>dads think i'm one of them

[SMACK]

>>167336312
>gay pornstar name
>2.3 hits
>ayy baby show me that ass

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>>167336312

>>167319113
>>167318237

Any ways to refresh besides exiting to main menu and switching modes?

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>Someone argues that a toggle fire button for turrets should exist.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense even though turrets may not be that good right now, I don't see wh...

>picture

Wow, I guess the dad meme really is true.

>>167337568
If ftroop was serious about sinking credits they could add a refresh button for 1000 creds.

>>167280983

>caring about Rogue One in any way

Anyone who cares about that pile of garbage should not have any authority over any other human being.

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>>167320585
>>167320254
Oh I'm sorry, Am I making you a little butthurt?

>No one knows about this guys!

>>167337568
Stop exploiting, anon.

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>>167338212
Fuck outta here, dad

>>167338093
it's the realest meme in this board

>>167338093

Improving turrets would make flying big ships slightly less painful, and we can't have that.

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Remember when they used to sell stuff almost weekly?

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I fucking knew it, better get started on your Elite exploration rank.

>>167339626
reeee
Where should I go?

>>167339704
Anywhere really, just do long range passenger missions, usually called sightseeing. A dad on the forums calculated that it goes 2000% faster than exploring normally by scanning neutron stars.

>>167339847
I'm assuming I need a beluga?

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>all of these are donation missions

We really aren't allowed to have fun, are we?

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>>167339898
Nah, I'm using a conda with 3 First Class sized 6 passenger cabins. As long as you can fit one First class cabin, preferably size 6, you're good to go.

>>167340141
Conflict zones are gone anyways. I'm sitting here with 18 Massacre missions and nothing to massacre.

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>>167340141
>>167340280

I'm sitting here and I can't decide if this is just bugged to fuck or they actually fixed it

>>167318237
too bad there is no CZ

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>>167340280
>>167340416

I just went from Open to Solo and I got some massacre missions but looky here what I found when I undocked. Try switching modes, you have to undock and go out of the station to detect the CZ.

>>167340416
Bugged. Frontier can't fix for shit and there was no update anyway.

>>167340416
>fixed
Fix what?
Isn't this supposed to be how that BGS works?

>>167341465

Nobody knows how the BGS is supposed to work, not even Frontier themselves.

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>>167340550
I can't find anything in all modes.

The system civil war seems to be over and I'm a little concerned with the way the NPC's are talking.

Full retreat? Leaving the system to find a new home?

>>167340550
i've been flying around in all modes, literally nothing

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>relatively new to game
>bounty CG in fedmich starts
>been playing there all week learning to fly
>just broke into the top 25% of contributors

>>167342071
You only needed 9m to break into 25%... 10% is 21m....

How fucking slow are you? Only kill Federal Dropships and Up. Nothing else.

>>167342071

Good lad, keep at it. What ship have you found yourself in?

>>167341779

I wouldn't worry about the NPCs. They say that kind of stuff in any system currently in war. Besides, the factions in 17D have nowhere to retreat (or expand) to. They are forever trapped there in that shithole of a system to be bait for mercenaries and pirates to make loadsamone from their overpriced missions.

>>167341894

I've been mode switching to stack missions and now I can't find it either. I have no idea why it decided to show up for me that one time I decided to undock. For what it's worth, I was in solo at the time. I'm going to keep trying undocking/docking/switching and see if I can get it to show up again.

>>167341779
^This Anon here
>>167341894

I found a High Conflict when I Kept swapping from OPEN to SOLO. It exists.

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>>167342542
>>167342743

Here it is again, like anon above me, I found it in solo again.

>>167342743
alright gonna go from open to solo and see, did you undock every time? or did you just swap in open space?

>>167342743
>>167342843
>>167342852

I just found it in solo. Which is a shame, because I wanted to do it in open with some friends.

Still hard as fuck to stack the right number of missions though

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>>167342743
wow literally 10 seconds from posting my reply, i hate that i can only get it to spawn in solo though

>>167343004

I'm going to drop into the CZ and switch to Open to see if it's still there. If it is, I'm willing to wing up with fellow /edg/friends.

>>167342373
I don't go to hazres sites, just normal ones. Where can I see how much is required for each tier?

>>167342542
Diamondback explorer.

>>167343078
not a bad idea

>>167343161

Welp, it's not here. So I guess this is some kind of bug that affects the game's ability to generate CZs over Open, which really makes no sense since we still have to connect and link to the transaction servers even in Solo.

Let's just chalk it up to Ftroop's incredible coding department. I'll keep trying to see if there's any way for it to work in Open or maybe a Private Group but I'm just glad I can go back to farming.

http://pastebin.com/xraxfYyP
Updated Elite Info pastebin with one link. Coriolis hasn't been updated in ages, use https://coriolis.edcd.io/ instead. You can add engineers mods to ship parts and the Beluga is on it etc

>>167343120
You can't. I'm just telling you the amounts where I hit them. (I'm in the top 10%)

It's really not that difficult to get there. The community sucks ass when it comes to grinding money and you have to imagine ForumDads and Casuals scoot around in Vipers/Cobras with shitty builds.

Treat HAZRES like CZ's. Find Pirates without Wings if you're a bitch, follow pirate until either:

A) They Leave
B) They Get into a fight with Miners/Other Pirates

If Step A) Fails, find a new pirate to follow
If Step B) Happens, wait until the pirates shields drop. Target Power Supply. Not Power Distributer. Power Supply. It will cripple Anacondas, Pythons, FDLs with one-two good passes of 3-4 Kinetic Weapons or 1-2 Shots with Railguns.

It aint that hard.

>>167344807
It must be lower now with all the dads getting their bounty claims in. I'm in the top 25 with 7.6 million.

I've found that anacondas aren't that big a challenge, but fer de lances fuck me right up. They seem faster and more maneuverable than my poor dbx.

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Setting off on the next leg of my trip to Colonia.

so to get the conis to work you can only flip between open and solo to stack missions effectively

missions / CZs are only appearing in solo

>>167346759

Correct, and the CZs only appear half of the time in solo. And the CZ mission stacking crash bug is still in, so get ready for even more frustration when trying to run 17D.

http://us5.campaign-archive1.com/?u=32d8ef31243db6075c45571bd&id=fbb91d8b72&e=21df7a13ff
Newsletter.

>>167347062
debating whether or not this is even worth it, i only really liked 17D because it was fun to fly in a wing with friends and shoot the shit while shooting shit

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>>167347213
>This week’s vault update provides a glimpse at the updated Aurora greybox.
Any subscriber here who can post it?

>>167347221

It took me about a good 15 minutes of mode switching to rack up a decent number of missions. It's not nearly as easy as it used to be but if you're short on cash, it's still a very good way to rack up some dosh quickly in an afternoon.

>>167348012
Is Aurora going to be the starter ship in SC?

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>>167347221
>Hurrdurr it's not worth it. Too hard.

>I've been grinding for 2 hours and I've made 184mil.

Get over yourself.

>>167347221

I guess maybe I should have read your post fully before responding, sorry. I've been trying but as of yet, I haven't gotten the CZ to pop up in open or PG. If it does at some point, I'll def post here but yeah, I wouldn't come here if you're looking to wing up.

>>167348170
nah fuck that if i'm gonna make money by myself i'd rather just go to robigo

>>167348478
To do what? Shitty Accept/Fail/B. Market slave missions?

>>167348170
>15 minutes to stack up your missions
Well it looks like I'm off to 17D as soon as I get home, Fedmich can wait. I have more money to make.

>>167348749
yeah, while doing chores and shit.

>>167348723
>*Not to scale

FTFY

>Made it into Top 10% in Fedmich. Not Even Tier 9 yet, guaranteed 29+ Mil when it's over.

>In 17D now, making Millions upon Millions on top of that waiting for Fedmich CE to end.

Wow. Game so hard.


Also which of you faggots was the Fed. Corvette sitting outfront of the slit? Name started with a J.

Oh, hey, CZ finally appeared in open.

Now if only Jet Bridge started offering more missions.

>>167324313
being able to react to and survive (without even dodging) a full assault from behind by one of the heaviest hitters in the game is not good balance. they need to bring the ttk down across the board

>>167328698
>Cut your speed to more than 100m/s

canadians in charge of math

>>167324313
they need to broaden the zone where missiles lock/stay locked to a full forward hemisphere. you had no chance to land a missile on that guy because you have to fire them right at him while he's moving perpendicular to you at 300m/s. if you could swing low and put them ahead of him so that he's in line with their momentum you would have actually had a chance.

Oh yeah, look at that, CZ is in open now, get over here anons.

On an unrelated note, since when could a FAS out-turn a Vulture?

>>167350365
>they need to broaden the zone where missiles lock/stay locked to a full forward hemisphere

Yeah just remove any veil of skilful application they were pretending to have

>>167350643
I'm not saying you should be able to fire at people behind you but missiles are 100% useless right now because the only time they can even come close to their target is if your target is flying away from you on a parallel vector, which just does not happen in this game unless you're catching someone unawares. having to stay nose on them to lock is fine, but you shouldn't lose that lock when they momentarily leave the little square in the middle of your screen formed by all the fucking struts.

being able to judge where to send a missile so it has the least maneuvering to do to reach it's target (since they can't maneuver for shit) would in fact be an application of skill, but you can't do that. all you can do is point it directly at the enemy and hope you got your positioning right and that he doesn't change direction the second he notices the lock (he will).

>>167351012
1 joust and someone is fucked if you have missiles.

But that doesn't matter. Shouldn't be making their application dumber than they already are, should be tying it into sensor mechanics more and having to work for a lock.

>>167348309
http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Starter_Ships

No

>>167349218
I was that meter maid I. A sidewinder

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>CAUTION, OBSERVE LOCAL SPEED LIMIT

So who wants to join me as the rent a cop union of ed

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So... what do you guys do in SC? Except just flying around?

>>167352293
Yeah just like you walk around in CS:GO senpai

>>167352293
Listen to music, watch bandwidth for other players, look for player bounties, look at other players' modules so you don't get caught unaware by someone's torpedo pylon if pvp breaks out .

>>167351214
you do have to work for a lock, by staying on target and that's fine. but there's no reason you should lose it so easily

>>167352608
Which is the most simple, easy thing to do if you can fly for shit. Even with a small cone in front of you.

>>167352293
>>167352581
I'm sorry I'm so autistic I thought you meant supercruise

>>167352293
You wait
It's a tech demo right now, I don't actually play it lol

>normal res
>shoot wanted npcs constantly until running out of ammo
>occasionally blow up an ana on da or python with the help of the system police
>hazres
>follow a python until it gets into combat
>wait patiently for its shields to fall
>they never fall
>when they get low the npc uses a bunch of shield cells because it can ignore heat
>after several minutes of watching two ships using this tactic shoot at each other I decide to shoot the python
>it's shields go down, it starts getting hammered by enemies
>but it focuses fire on my dbx
>have to boost away for shield regen
>python keeps following me
>it's shields are back
>can't get its shields down by myself with just two medium pulse lasers
>have to leave the hazres altogether to make it stop following me

How do I git gud

>>167354173
Have you paid Braben for Horizons and grinded Engineers for the privilege of playing the base game effectively, anon?

>>167352659
please read my post again. I have no problem with how locking currently works. but losing it should not be so easy. currently, the only way to get a successful missile hit is to have good positioning relative to the other player's vector, but with how trivial it is to change your vector on a dime in this game, missile success basically boils down to luck and hoping they're overwhelmed enough by something else not to see it coming. if we could actually strategically fire them ahead of the player's vector rather than behind it, as we must do now, the skill in missile use could only increase.

>>167354523
>currently, the only way to get a successful missile hit is to have good positioning relative to the other player's vector

Nah, they just have to be low energy.

Which players constantly do if they're bad. If they're good, you'll never hit with them because anyone decent won't ever get hit with missiles.

>>167354463
My multicannon has corrosive ammo so yes

Don't know who braben is though :^)

>>167354601
wat
none of that makes sense
>missiles shouldn't even have a use at all in skilled play
this is what you're saying.

>>167354821
>Skilled play
>Make it even more piss-easy to keep a lock than it already is

yeah that'll totally fix missiles.

>>167355151
keeping a lock does not require skill at all right now, so making the lock persist outside the small cone it does now does not really affect anything. it wouldn't even matter if you could fire a missile when your target was behind you, because it's not going to fucking hit anything. allowing a wider lock zone would at least allow people to lead their targets, which currently you cannot. that's at least half the reason missiles are shit right now; your only option is to fire them at the opponent's exhaust trail rather than being proactive.

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i need phrases to say to let cmdrs know that the rent a cop group is guarding this station

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>>167355946
>we will be handing out speeding tickets at this location, in person
>if you do not stop to accept your fine, we will be forced to apprehend you
>the pit maneuver will likely be employed

>>167355946
>traffic violations in this vicinity will be punished with extreme velocidensity

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>>167356534
>extreme velocidensity

>>167354173

Use FA-Off to try to circle your enemies. Also, try to get yourself into a DBS instead of a DBX. You'll have a lot more successes that way.

>>167355476
>your only option is to fire them at the opponent's exhaust trail rather than being proactive.
load of shit.

Missiles are terrible right now because they're totally arcade-y and based on nothing that could actually resemble skill, leading to them being either OP as fuck or useless and just swinging between that.

Once they're tied into proper sensor mechanics (and when those fucking mechanics exist) it'll be a lot better. but simply removing difficulty in applying an already piss easy weapon isn't going to improve anything.

>>167357439
>either OP as fuck
never found a scenario where this is the case in the current version. even put S3 and S4 on my LN and snuck up on people already engaged in AC, they never seem to hit, because you can only fire at where they are, not where they're going to be, and they can't maneuver enough to catch up.
there is no removal of difficulty regarding holding a lock, as it's not hard in the first place, only limited.

>>167356186
>>167356534
yes, do this

>>167328330
>Jared Huckaby and Tyler Witkin
>don't expect anything meaningful
I thought anything with those two assclowns involved that was a given.

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Why don't the ships spawn faster

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>>167359251
mfw i should be at 17 drac but would rather piss off dads at the cg

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>>167359251

>Jumped away because no ship spawns
>Jump back, fresh instance
>Pick faction
>Immediately fucked to death because 0 ally ships

That'll teach me

>>167349898
He was using energy weapons and completely dropped my rear shields and was doing damage before I got my turn started. He wasn't able to kill me with a single pass, which is appropriate since I'm in a bigger ship that should be able to take a hit or two. The missiles were to give him something else to do other than shoot at me. I would not have been able to stop him with size 2 missiles, even with a full load. It wasn't lopsided, but if I had pressed the issue, I would have lost. I ran in part to open a gap, also to make the NPCs target him instead of me.

>A SH using energy weapons not being able to alpha strike a Cutlass is balanced.
>Cutlass not really keeping up, even with boost, is balanced.
>He had shit aim and was going to boost strafe me until one of us ran out of energy.

>>167350365
I'm ok with the missile lock envelope. A skilled pilot won't be very vulnerable to missiles, but shooting missiles forces them to fight the missile for a few seconds rather than try to kill you.