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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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SMT HD Game and 3DS game planned in the works:
http://shin-megamitensei.jp/

SMT HD Project teased at Nintendo Switch Presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALfkAh4iZ6o

Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX

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Hey.
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>>166988254
Hoy.

>>166988117
+3 to all stats seems pretty good yeah but it's not like it's all that much.
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So how do you even tell demons without a mouth are smirking?
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>>166988967
They oneshot your party during their next attack.
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>>166988967
A black/grin icon with a smirking face appears on top of them.
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>>166988967
Their eyes turn green.
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>>166989129
What if they don't have eyes either?
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>>166989339
They quickly draw ones on their face(s).
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>>166988050
You get Samurai gear
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Why does Infernal Tokyo have a better soundtrack than regular Tokyo?
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>>166989821
>dat Infernal Tokyo overworld music
I would go there and read through the demons's bios for hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50MTGAvcngM
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>>166989985
Infernal Tokyo was meh. Nothing memorable compared to the regular Tokyo theme and Roppongi Hills Cop.
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>>166989985
sounds like a metallica song

I like the melancholic tone of regular tokyo more.
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>page 9
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>>166992271
we're all furiously masturbating while waiting for more about the SMT projects I guess, so thats why no one's around.
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>>166992365
I'm sure as hell not masturbating to the bitch in your image.
Fuck her and everything related to her.
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>>166992934
>Fuck her
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>>166992934
>Fuck her
Yes, please.
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fuck THIS
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>>166993271
I don't want to go to jail for animal cruelty.
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>>166993271
Nah, i'll eat her instead.
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>>166993324
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>>166993324
I don't really get the doggo meme.
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>>166993552
Is there any pic with all of Nemechi's forms?
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>>166993609
It's in the game.
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Man... Io is kind of boring. I was all for her when I started but nah.

She's like that girl you fall in love with but once you start spending time with her you are going to end up cheating.
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>>166995090
>DeSu2 characters are shallow and shit
Say it ain't so!
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>>166995167
Airi and Otome are fine.

This is also my first time playing
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>>166995090
>playing DeSu 2
>expecting good characters
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>>166995232
Airi's a shitty tsundere and Otome is bland as fuck. Admittedly the scene where she and Makoto sit on you is pretty hot, but that doesn't really redeem her.
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>>166995232
I can see why you would like Airi but Otome doesn't have anything going for her.
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DeSu 2 grills > DeSu grills
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>>166995428
Nurse play. It gets me going.
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>>166995518
I was talking about the character itself but I guess that's fine too.
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>>166995482
In terms of tits, sure.
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>>166995482
Only because the only good girl in DeSu was Amane
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Can I move my American save of Apocalypse to a Europan copy using some homebrew? I want save bonuses from my European version of SMT IV
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Post Jacks.
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>>166998624
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>>166998624
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>>166996095
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>>166999272
My only regret playing DeSu was not letting her die.
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>>166999312
how gay are you anon
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>>166999382
It's not about sexuality. She'd get the dicking for sure. But it would be rape murder. Order undecided
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>>166999382
just leave her as a cocksleeve for your general black frost
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>>166999272
She wanted the MC's D didn't she?
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Persona 4 has more structured combat than SMT IV.
Feels pretty bad man.
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>>166993271
screw that
fuck this instead
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>Marin Karin
REMOVE THIS SKILL
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Is it safe to say that smt is mainstream now?
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>>167002206
hopefully not
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>>167002206

>SMT HD trailer on IGN only 45k views
>Persona 5 trailer 1.8M views

we are still somewhat safe
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>>167002206
Not really. As long as you don't see nintendofags sperging out about the exclusivity.
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>>167003707
You really think it's going to be a Switch exclusive? The 3DS game sure, but HD project sounds too vague to be a Switch-only thing.
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>>166995232
All of the character development in Devil Survivor 2 is locked behind the fate routes. You have to spend time with them to get their depths.

>>166995167
>>166995278
Only Ronaldo and Yamato are shitty for separate reasons
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>>167004063
Dunno. I don't see Atlus investing in an HD project solely for one brand new console whose future is cloudy at best. But then again, companies aren't known for doing good decisions anyway.
I'm betting on a Switch/PS4 release even though I'm not considering getting either of these yet.
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>>167004063
No, Atlus is going to stick to handhelds with 2D sprites because that's how mainline can make money. They just need Doi to be on point, just like he was during 4 and Apocalypse.
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>>167004154
All characters in DeSu 2 are shitty. No exception. Some however are just far worse than others. A shame really, since I do enjoy the designs for some of them but the writing just ruins everything.

>You have to spend time with them to get their depths
What depth? All the DeSu 1/2 characters are walking bland anime tropes. Some just have some luck and are likable or have effort put into their dialog.
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>>167004570
I mean the HD project is clearly not sprite based though.
>>167004317
That's pretty much what I'm thinking. I'm a Nintendo fanboy with a Switch pre-order but I don't really care about exclusivity as long as I can play it.
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>>167004154
Io is at Fate 3 and still boring. If there is a fate 4 probably STILL boring
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>>167005164
>I'm a Nintendo fanboy with a Switch pre-order but I don't really care about exclusivity as long as I can play it.
The world needs more people like you. I'm gonna wait until the game actually releases to even be hyped for it though. YHWH knows how things turned out for Apocalypse.
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>>167004587
Fumi's Fumis best anime trope.
Best character of the persona-tier spin-offs.
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>>167005373
Looked better as a thumbnail in my ordner.
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>>167005373
>literal muh genius hacker girl #99999
Her design is great though. Love me some cheongsam.
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>>167005481
That too, actually.

>>167005610
Didn't say that her character was thought out. She's just the best because lesser evil
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>>166997161
>it worked
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>>167004587
I honestly liked the idea of Japan having a MIB themed agency handling supernatural threats in DeSu2. Yamato literally the hero that mainline needs to deal with YHVH.

The DeSu characters might be bland anime tropes, but at least they got more stuff done.
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>>167005806
why bother with it if some untrained high school kids have to carry the pros anyway
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>>167005806
Don't get me wrong. I really loved the overall plot of DeSu 2. Gameplay tweaks, character designs, music (sans the really bad auction theme) were great as well. It's just that the writing is really atrocious and the endings were pretty dull. And those "comedy" parts were cringy as fuck.

>The DeSu characters might be bland anime tropes, but at least they got more stuff done.
I agree. And the DeSu 2 characters also end up doing a lot of shit but the MC and Yamato basically always get the credit for every shit done.
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>>167005996
This shit right here. It would make more sense if more of the party members were part of JPs already but only 4 or 5 are part of it.
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>>167005370
Haha thanks, I sold my PS4 shortly after impulse buying it cause I wasn't feeling it; always been a largely /vr/ guy with modern Nintendo and Microsoft consoles. I do love my PS3 though. I just love games, whatever. Looking forward to ATLUS games in general on the Switch. Their 3DS/DS output has been so good, I can't imagine it will be bad on a mostly portable HD console. My hype is definitely more general, but shit that HD trailer looked cool.
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Do it accures to me that you cannot make Mitamas in smtIV-a . So how would I go about making a super Pixie like in nocturne and all the other games?
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>>167006553
It occurs.
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>>167006553
DLC :^)
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>>167006486
I'm not really feeling anything towards either PS4 or a Switch to be honest. With or without a SMT game. But I really hope Nintendo pulls their shit together and actually make the Switch at least a moderate success and Sony works on boosting the library on the PS4. Xbone can suck dicks.
Honestly I just wanted a 3DS2 or whatever name they'd come up with.
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>>167006553
I always expect that Pixie to smoke a cigar or cigarette even though I've seen the image a hundred times.
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>>167006553
elements
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>>167006190
MC gets credit because he's the only one who has the charisma to keep the others in line, rally them behind a noble cause, and make women lust after him depending on the player's choices. He can even get away with peeking into the peeping at the girls during their exams, only getting a light scolding for Otome.

Yamato on the other hand is the man with the plan and a good idea of what to do after the Septentriones are defeated. Most of the JP staff are sympathetic to his cause, with only Fumi giving a slightly believable reason for her decision to side with JP.
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>>167006989
>Most of the JP staff are sympathetic to his cause, with only Fumi giving a slightly believable reason for her decision to side with JP.
It's cringeworthy how most of the characters's reason is "meh I guess". Makoto and Io in particular drove me insane with their wishy washy attitude.
However, in contrast, Daichi having the balls to stand up and offer a third way was fucking surprising considering how he was cowardly buttmonkey during the entire game.
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>>167006717
I would have been happy with a 3DS successor too, maybe we'll still see one. Though honestly I hope we don't and Ninty actually focuses all their energy on the Switch. I love my Xbone though tbqhfam. I can play all my JRPGs elsewhere, and I play Forza and mostly backwards compatible 360 games I bought last gen on the X1.
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>>167007342
>mostly backwards compatible 360 games I bought last gen on the X1.
Wait, Xbone has retro compatibility? Didn't knew about that.
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>>166999614
No, she's his imouto.
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>>167007313
Makoto is just very loyal to Yamato and wants to pay her debt to him for giving her a job and a purpose. Io just don't fit into any extremes, which is why she sides with Daichi: The both of them want to change the world but not thru either Ronaldo and Yamato's ways. Otome on the other hand just wants to mommy the world.
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>>167006717
A 4DS?
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>>167007573
Makoto was loyal but it always seemed like she was a push away from giving up and siding with Ronaldo. Specially at the near end game. She even defies direct orders from Yamato and doesn't kill some of the rioters and shit.
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>>167007760
Too bad Ronaldo decides to kill her on the Sixth Day if you side with him before the route split. Really, the only thing preventing Makoto from siding with Egalitarian is Ronaldo himself.
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>>167008059
Why did he killed her though? It's been a while since I played DeSu 2 and only went through Ronaldo's route once. She seemed such an interesting character at the beginning of the game.
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>>167007573
I can go for Otome being my mommy
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>>167006553
Use elements to pass down skills, farm Incenses from Mitamas in the DLC.
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>>167008405
Something about the other JP staff killing rioters, Ronaldo chimping out and killing her too because reasons.

Fuck Ronaldo. Worst Law representative ever, swear to God.
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>>167001148
>tfw i requested porn of argilla on her atma form on /trash/
>it was delivered and it looks great
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Is Ronaldo Mexican?
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>>167009662
It's not his fault. If you think about his position, it does make sense and why he wants equality. His reasons and decisions are absolute shit though. Not even the writing couldn't possibly save him here.

>>167009842
He's semi huefag or something.
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>>166998624
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>>167007456
Yeah, not every game, they've been rolling out 3-5 titles at a time (they have to do playtesting on everything) and Catherine just got added recently. The emulator is pretty impressive and actually improves the framerates and performance of most games.

Full BC list:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/backward-compatibility/available-games

I got like 20 of my old XBLA games in my 'ready to install' list one day, it's pretty cool..
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So far I've managed to get Demiurge's kit onto a pixie.
I will start farming those mitama now. Thanks.
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>>167011468
Not interested on the Xbone but I fucking applaud Microsoft for the effort.
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>>167011805
It's hard to hate on that kind of fan-service, for sure.
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>>167012139
More than what Sony did with PS3 games on the PS4 and Nintendo with their Switch. Or what Sony did with the PSP to Vita business. I ain't gonna buy your stupid Persona games again Atlus. Not while my PSP works. Fuck you.
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>>167012326
Exactly. I'm withholding judgement on the Switch situation until they detail what's going on with the Virtual Console. I don't have high hopes, but I'm hoping nonetheless.
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When the fuck do you unlock the 8th skill slot apps in Apocalypse?
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>>167012326
umd is a shit format that is best killed
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>>167012835
Level 90 or thereabouts.
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>>167012835
Lv 75
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Critical Eye or Charge?
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>>167013624
I find Charge to generally be better but Critical Eye has its uses.
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>>167013102
I'm not saying the opposite. But having a shit ton of physical games and have to pay for them again to play them on another console is fucking retarded.
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How do I build a god tier Alice in SMT IV APOCALYPSE? I want to take her to end game.
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>>167013624
Charge has better potential because you can get a crit off with a charged attack. Critical Eye is weaker but gives you more smirk chances. In the end game you are pulling off so much damage that smirks don't really matter that much, so charge is just all around better.
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>I play Shin Megami Tensei for the "challenge"
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>>167009789
Post it faggot
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cucksona is the future of devil summoner
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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

Vote this time, manchild.
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>>167017747
no mt2 no vote
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Ronde is trash, desu
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>>166988205
>http://shin-megamitensei.jp/
HOW MUCH DID IT TAKE???????
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>>167021132
What new ~deep lore~ would they even reveal in SMT 5?
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>>167022638
An epic even less sweet?
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>>167017747
y no MT2?
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>>167022638
Something about there being Lucifer who is against YHVH who is the mastermind behind everything, sort of like the Wizard of Oz.
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>>167022638
stephen is the true bad guy of the series
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>>167022946
Apocalypse showed that Lucifer is just YHVH's bitch, though.
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>>167022638
the YHVH of Mars
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>>167026710
u g l y
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>>167023110
That's nothing new. He got his shit pushed in by Michael
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>>167023110
I thought Krishna, Odin, and Dagda were calling Lucifer YHVH's bitch because he was too complacent to kill him.
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>>167022638
you can succ cocks to summon demons
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>>167022638
You are a reincarnation of a goddess
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>>167022638
you were the true digital dummy
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>>167030603
>>167030963
These. We need a slutty protagonist.
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>>166998624
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Quick someone stream Tokyo Revelation.
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>>167031848
its awful
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>>167032325
You're awful.
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>>167016168
ahh fuck it i'll post it see you guys in 3 days
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>>167032823
You could've just posted it on imgur or something but whatever, less is better.
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When we pretend that we're dead~
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>>167032823
That looks dangerous.
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Man I appreciate Dagda more on a second run through.

Also Nozomi's face looks really fucking weird during cut scenes.
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>>167005806
I've always thought that Yamato is the only character in DeSu2 who'd fit right in a mainline game.
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>>167033845
how dangerous can it be?
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>>167033986
You in charge of taking pictures.
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>>167033986
>Australia in charge of pictures
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>fatlus in charge of translating
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>>167006190
>And the DeSu 2 characters also end up doing a lot of shit but the MC and Yamato basically always get the credit for every shit done.
Probably because they waited for those two to figure everything out for them and it gets even worse in Record Breaker where they literally stop even trying when they get Yamato back. Their reason for even looking for him at all was so he'd do shit for them. Even Miyako ends up a pointless addition and has him clean up her own mess.

The DeSu2 cast was too bloated. Remove everyone who isn't JPs, Ronaldo, or AO and you still have the same game.
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>>167034817
Also, god damn, is DeSu2 just bad socialist propaganda?

The Yamato vs Ronaldo reasons were obviously capitalism vs socialism, and Yamato's ending was ridiculous in how it showed that the "merit world" was just awful.

I don't think I'll get the other endings cause playing the game 4+ times is just too much for me, but I'll watch it on youtube.
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>>167035404
it's /pol/ vs tumblr. I found it funny but apparently it triggers some people on /smtg/
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>>167035492
Usually SMT is quite the status-quo defender, since both Law and Chaos endings tend to create terrible societies, while the Neutral ones leave things good as they are. I'll see if Ronaldo's ending is bad too
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>>167035404
Yamato is an anarcho-capitalist

>>167035620
Ronaldo's end is a breeding ground for welfare queens
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>>167035620
Ronaldo pretty much brainwashes the world into being nice, passive and egalitarian. It's literally something the Archangels would've done to make their Millennium Kingdom work.
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>>167035820
Law endings are not usually "passive and egalitarian", though, they're most often than not tyrannical hierarchies where people are forced to obey the greater will
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Anyone got a high res image of the Demonica?
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>>167035945
It's more like they're happy to obey than anything.
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>>167034817
>2.55 MB
>4128x2322
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how do you fuck up taking a screenshot of a ds game that badly?
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>>167035785
that explains the JPs color scheme
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>>167035404
Should've just gone Alcor end
God is your bro now and you get to repopulate the world without niggers
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Does any of you owns a shirt or any other piece of clothing-related stuff of SMT? You know, aside from the SMT IVF pins.
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>>167037304
Just a phone case.
A hoodie would be nice, though.
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>>167036506
The worst part is that he could have used the SCREENSHOT FEATURE OF THE CONSOLE. Unless he's playing the original version, but it doesn't look like it.
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>>167037041
Niggers would end up dying in yamato's world anyways.
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>>167030963
Isn't that basically DDS
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event is in a few more hours http://itsalmo.st/#ffanniversary

Still no links to a stream, is there any hype? think we'll get ANYTHING that isn't mobile? pls Square don't go full Nintendo on us, no Super Cloud Strife Run announcements
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>>167038157
ff x smt
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>>167037419
What screenshot feature?
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>>167022638
- An ancient evil awakens! -
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>>167038157
Wrong general?
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>>167022638
Nyx use to be Alcor's fuckbuddy
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>>167035620
Humanity dooms itself to never progress in Ronaldo's ED. It ends up heavily hinting that the same shit is going to happen all over again.
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>>167038210
The 3DS can take screenshots natively, either by posting them to miiverse and then grabbing them from the miiverse website, or I believe, but suspending the game and then just hitting the upload button on any website that supports photo uploads in the browser. Like pic related.
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>>167040542
you can also take easy photos if you have cfw
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Is there any Desu2RB walkthrough or guide for the Triangulum Arc?
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>>167040831
you don't need one. all you need to know is to pay attention to yamato events to unlock the true end, and there's optional extra scene in the ending if you pay attention to alcor and miyako events. everything else is automatic
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>>167041006
What you mean pay attention? Answer the questions with the right answers?
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>>167041167
that, and just do them period.
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>>167041167
Go right to their events and the main story events whenever you see them. Some people have gotten butthurt that they were locked out of the true end because they ignored Yamato.
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what would mayas face look like with my cum all over it
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>>167022638
>The rose was an icon of veneration in the pre-Christian era, and was used in ancient Rome to symbolize devotion to the goddess Venus. Following the Christianization of Rome under the emperor Constantine, the rose became identified with the Virgin Mary. The rose symbol eventually led to the creation of the rosary and other devotional prayers in Christianity.
>Christians view roses as reminders of the Garden of Eden, a paradise in a world that reflected God's design before sin corrupted it.
>Roses, which have long served as symbols of the Virgin Mary, have shown up in some of the miraculous Marian apparitions that people worldwide have reported. Mary is known as the "mystic rose" or the "rose without thorns" among some Christians, because of her role as the mother of Jesus Christ, whom Christians believe is the world's savior. Before sin entered the world and corrupted it, tradition says that the Garden of Eden featured roses with no thorns, and thorns appeared after humanity sinned. Since Mary played a vital role in God's plan to redeem the fallen world, Mary became associated with the original purity of the uncorrupted beauty of the roses God originally designed for the Garden of Eden.
>The Rosary, which means "crown of roses," involves offering a group of prayers to Mary like a spiritual bouquet. People hold or wear a beaded necklace (which itself is called a "rosary") and use the beads as physical tools to focus their minds on 20 different spiritual mysteries from the time Jesus Christ spent on Earth. During some of Mary's apparitions, she has promised rewards for those who faithfully pray the Rosary -- from protection from evil during people's lives on Earth to rewards in heaven after they die.

Jesus Christ MC confirmed.
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>>167034028
best hierarchyfag
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>>167032325
You're taste is shit.
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>>167041006
>>167041204
>>167041419
Does the Arc take long to beat? It took me like 45 hours to beat the main story
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>>167042835
*your
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>>167043010
no. it's short.
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what a fag
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Hoyo
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>>167043349
YHVH had the dumbest fucking animations Ive ever seen. Who at Atlus thought making God literally smirk and wink would be a good idea
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>>167048678
Someone with a sense of humor who doesn't like God
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>>167048678
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Where the FUCK do I buy Chakra Drops in SMTIVF? I swear one shop was selling them but doesn't seem that way anymore, God damn I have nearly 0 of them.
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So, when did you guys take the Raidou-pill and accepted King Abaddon as the best SMT game ever?
Also, can Citra emulate SMT4 / Apoc yet?
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>>167050523
>not hacking the pill
faggot, soul hackers is the best you are gonna get
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>>167051509
Objectively, metaphysically, interuniversally true statement.
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What's the best way to level up skills in SMT4A? Can you throw skills onto low level demons somehow?
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>>167052035
What do you mean?
You can't level up skills, and you can teach any demon almost every skill there is regardless of their level or affinity.
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>>167052035
Put all skills you wish to level up on MC on a low level demon. Lower the better

Save it in the in your comp then level it up till the whisper event.

Delete/fuse said demon and re summon.

Repeat as needed
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>>167052310
>>167052310
>Put all skills you wish to level up on MC on a low level demon.
How?
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>>167023110
Apoc only.

His whole deal in II is that he isn't his bitch but lets YHVH think he is.
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>>167035785
Yamato hates capatalism. Money is specifically not part of the Merit system.
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>>167053459
> i was just pretending to be you cumbucket! -spits cum-
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>>167053054
Fuse nigga
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>>167053616
He was. YHVH even gave him Kuzuryu to fuck everyone over and he doesn't, only using it to stop Satan from going into space. Also trying to find Satan and kill him before YHVH has him awakened to kill everyone.

III was all about him making a new demon to fuck over the "grand design" of YHVH, and SJ he cheers the Mothers from the sidelines since they beat YHVH's bitch ass and he spends his time laughing at Laws remnants.

Only IV and I fall into the whole "YHVH is behind Lucy" deal.
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Anyone else get a little bothered by the style discrepancies? It's not as bad in 3D games like Nocturne but in the games that use 2D sprites it's really noticeable. I have nothing against the older Kaneko art but when you put it next to his newer stuff it just feels weird. Add in Doi's art and it just feels even weirder. Admittedly I'm not a super huge fan of Doi's demon art but it at least fits in a bit better.
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>>167057014
smtiv art clash was cringy as fuck.
none of the new demons fit
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>>167057892
What do you think the chances are that we'll get another mainly Kaneko designed SMT game? In the HD project trailer, they weren't using Doi's design for one of the archangels if I remember... But then there was Doi's Odin.
I actually like Doi's Odin better than the old one, since it was just a naked purple guy with a silly helmet.
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>>167058184
if the 3DS game is strange journey HD then we'll have a mainly kaneko game again
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>>167058184
all the FINAL redesigns were fine, but the IV ones should never be used again.
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>>167058318
I want an HD SJ, but at the same time I'm not sure how I'd feel about it being 3rd person if they decided to go that route. I think it'd be really fun to explore the sectors in full 3D but at the same time, I worry it would end up being really watered down in comparison.
If they did make it 3rd person, I'd really want a nice variety of alternate Demonica to wear. I shit my pants when I saw the black Demonica, and I'd love to see more like that.
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>>167058441
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>>167058643
they don't usually overhaul on their HD releases that much, right? so I don't think they'd change it to 3rd person.
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>>167058817
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
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The HD project reminded me of Nocturne.
I think it will be a remake, sequel, or somehow set in the universe.
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>>167059003
It only reminded you of it because it's the only other 3D mainline.
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>>167059742
No.

That's the hospital.

And the scene with all the demons is aping the presentation of Nocturne.

A sequel to Nocturne can still be a mainline game. SMT2 was a sequel.
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>>167059918
Not him, but I kinda see what you mean, and even agree with you a bit, but I got more of an SMT I cover art feel from the demons.
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>>167059918
>And the scene with all the demons is aping the presentation of Nocturne.
Literally Nocturne baby.
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>>167060271
Demons staring at the screen was literally the title screen of nocturne too.

I think it's more of an SMT thing rather than an SMT 1 thing.

...But I do think the project is Nocturne related. The hospital but mainly the three bells or gongs that rings.
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>>167059918
>That's the hospital.
What makes you think that's the same hospital? Or even a hospital at all?

>And the scene with all the demons is aping the presentation of Nocturne.

It's a MegaTen thing.

It's not that I don't want it to be Nocturne related, it's just there's no evidence it is.
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>>167060389
Nocturne is my least enjoyed and played SMT, man.

I would just like to see that atmosphere reimagined.
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>>166998624
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Any vids of the fiends or any one of them on cycle 9? I want to see how broken they are
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Anyone does have the smt4:a dlcs (EUR) in cia format?
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>>167065168
Just buy it.
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>>167038157
SMT x FF when?
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>>167041641
>Odin revives Akira like Dagda did with Nanashi
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>>167038157
get ready for a SMT mobage, faggots
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Ronaldo is such a fuck. Who wants to live in a world where Tim who trained hard to get to +10 STR is equal to Matt with +3 STR?

People who won't want the merit system just want to leech off of everyone. Yamato is right.
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>>167065145
Alternatively, how important is minmaxing for the end-game content? Cleopatra, Mephistoles, Stephen, Mikado-DLC, late-cycle fiends
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YOU'RE NOT ME
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>>167065789
That's right, fuck Bernie!

>>167065819
Eh, it's not that important. Just farm incenses with the DLC.
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>>167065789
Yamato's ending would be the best if not for sucking Polaris' dick
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How many days is Triangulum Arc? I'm hating it due to having to start the game all over again
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>>167065354
I want SMT MOBA though.
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>>167067725
without polaris cucking mankind they would abuse the world of strenght and end up with your usual mainline chaos crap
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>>167068952
I'd play it. I really want an SMT MMO though. Imagine was okay, mostly a walking simulator, but if they could make a good quality one like FFXIV, that'd be great.
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>>167068952
Mobage, not MOBA. Think that Final Fantasy game that had a Ariana Grande collab recently for some reason.
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>>167069117
>expecting good quality from anything SMT

lol___
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>>167069213
>Think that Final Fantasy game that had a Ariana Grande collab recently for some reason.
Should I even ask what this is?
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>>167069259
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ariana-grande-will-be-in-a-final-fantasy-game/1100-6446560/
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>>167067938
Triangulum arc lasts 5 days.
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>>167069548
really? it's gonna take me like 10 days to finish it, ugh
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>>167069614
So what? You sound like you don't even wanna play it.
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>>167069693
I'd enjoy it more if it was like Overclocked where the extra story was directly after the events of the main game, not having to restart and level and skill crack everything again
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>>167069768
You get to carry over your demons, skills, and macca. You shouldn't have any problems until the last day.
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>>167069768
>I'd enjoy it more if it was like Overclocked where the extra story was directly after the events of the main game
It literally is directly after the events of the main game in a way.
If you're starting Triangulum after finishing Septentrione then you should be able to carry shit over, so you wouldn't be starting from scratch.
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>>167069768
you don't need to skill crack everything again if you start it as a NG+
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>>167069768
>being this retarded
You're one of those people that constantly look for something to bitch about, aren't you?
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>>167069816
>>167069868
>>167069931
>>167069987

God dammit, I didn't realize that you could select the Arc in NG+, thought that I needed to start a new save file for it. Thankfully I didn't get very far anyway
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>>167070036
It pays to look before you leap.
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>>167059003
I hope they don't remake nocturne, that would be so disappointing
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Is there a Pierce like skill for Magic

Death Call + Status moves would be interesting but Null Curse zzz
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>>167070683
Depends on the game. There's pierce skills you can put on your demons that'll make all magic of that element pierce in Apocalypse.
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>>167069213
I know what mobage is, genius. Mobage is garbage. MOBA is good tho.
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>>167070909
>moba
>good
Not sure if I understand. How can a genre that spawned such disgusting cancer as League of Legends ever be considered good?
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How do Stats work in IV Final?
My Nanashi is at level 67 now and my DEX stat is at 203 with gear, which only is going to get better I guess.
Is it still worth it to pump points into Dex? The level up screen kinda inplies Dex is at cap since 200.
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>>167071119
LoL is shit MOBA.
You're probably hating on genre because you sucks at it anyway.
>defending p2win mobage over based MOBA ever
You fucked up.
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>>167071190
There's no cap, keep going.
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>Mizar Power Change and then Multi-Strike
So this is what I missed out on by going Magic Hero. Regrets.

>>167070768
DeSu 2
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>>167071213
Alright.
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>>167071202
>defending
I wasn't defending mobage you fucking spastic, I was saying that MOBA is a garbage genre that's done nothing but spawn garbage games whose mere existence is an affront to the RTS genre they spawned from.

>u h8 it cuz ur bad lol
Are you literally 12 years old?
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>>167071257
No cap at 200, at least. I think it's 999, but you don't really have to worry about that.
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>>167071278
>u h8 it cuz ur bad lol
You can't prove it otherwise. If you played in it within shitty 2k skill bracket full of crying manchildren then its a good enough evidence that you're horrible player and should stick to your turn-based dungeoncrawlers for babies.
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>>167071430
>If you played it
I don't play garbage games, buddy.
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>>167071287
Yeah, I'm going to ignore the no level cap dlc.
So I higly doubt it's going to be an issue.
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>>167071481
>posted DeSu2
>'I don't play garbage games'
Lmao@ur life. Go cry somewhere else skilless scrub.
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>>167071430
>Dotafag thinks he is somehow less cancer than a lolbabby.
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>>167071541
>buttblasted lolbaby can't get over the fact that his shitty low-skill letsplay bait is a laughingstock of the entire genrre
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>>167071539
>if you post a reaction image or screencap of something that means you like the source of the image
This guy might actually have brain damage. Do I suddenly play Overwatch because I posted this image too? Or is it because it adequately describes my reaction to your posts?
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>>167071673
You might as well considering how shitty your taste is
>mobage is good guyse!!
Neck yourself already you moron
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>>167071921
Please locate that statement in any of the posts I made during this exchange. Keep in mind that I am not the original poster, and only made the following posts: >>167071673 >>167071481 >>167071278 and >>167071119
I'll wait right here for whatever excuse you can come up with when you're unable to provide evidence of this statement I didn't make.
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>this thread
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>>167071658
>If you don't like the cancer that is dotards, you must be a lolbabby.

Just think for one moment, how often did you see somebody who plays one of the lesser known ones sperg about assfaggots or shitpost about either dota 2 or lol back on /v/?
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>>167072064
The internet is very serious business!
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>>167072034
>b-but it w-wasn't me!!
Loving every laugh
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>>167072327
And if you look through any of the other posts in the exchange, you'll find that...there's no such statement. Man, that really activates my almonds. Here they are, in case your lack of higher brain function rendered you unable to remember.
>>167065354 >>167068952 >>167069213 >>167070909
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>>167072069
Grab some basics of english before talking shit in the internet, stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>167072396
Why are you talking like fedora-tipping redditor? Are you twelve?
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What if they made a SMT card game
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>>167072596
>when in doubt, launch personal attacks
Still waiting on that evidence, bro. Where is it? Find the post, go on.
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>End, End, End, Demons all End without Moving
>Hero moves does objective

AI is really bad at times. Not sure why they aren't advancing on my team that I am just skipping turns.
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>>167073902
>>Hero moves does objective
what did he mean by this
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>>167073998
move, attack demon, activate control, repeat until mission clear
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>>167071119
Smite is pretty fun anon. It's the closest thing we have a to MegaTen MOBA since it has gods and other mythological beings from different pantheons.

>>167071278
>RTS genre
It's also in third person, not top down view.
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>Asahi getting btfo by some angel.
>Says she looks like a whore.
>Even the twink with mustache can't hold his keks.
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>fighting Matador
>Critical Eye
>Andalucia
>smirks
>Andalucia again
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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A while back somebody said that an npc in blasted or infernal tokyo hinted that the angels were the ones who let out the demons. But where does that happen? I just went through both talking to everyone, and all they said was that the angels were likely behind the nukes launching not letting out the demons.
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>>167076338
What is Don Ramon's alignment?
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What was the name of the megaten fansite and forum with Pascal on the starter page? Anyone remembers?
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>>167078257
Why do you care? That's been dead for a long time.
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>>167078257
>Pascal on the starter page
asahi.com
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>>167078473
Because it's cool and I want to see it again.
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Everyone wants the Hero, even the guys.
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>>167078165
chaos
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>>167078747
http://www.smt-dds.net/
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>>167079526
Someone said this before but if the general ever goes down we should move there.
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>>167079526
Thank you my man.
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>>167079810
I don't know, forums scare me, especially the ones with black fond, and I'm 29.
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>>167080210
yeah, I could never commit to forums because I don't like having a set online identity.
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>>167080210
>>167080278
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>there's still no serebii/serenesforest for MegaTen
Guess the wiki is good enough.
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>>167076338
smt x le chavez
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Anyone have that image of the main character of soul hackers looking like Max Stirner?
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>>167080331
I'll give some more fuel.
>Hell bend on doing the massacre route last because it's harder and the ending /smtg/ approves off most
>Get soft troughout the game and do it first, so I can have my happy 100% save file on the friendship route.
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So, was he gay?
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>>167082715
Why has it been taking 5 years to load images on 4chan? Like, I'll click the thumbnail and it will literally take 30+ seconds to expand.
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>>167082715
>Jonathan
Of course, willingly entering the sausage party hot tub that is Merk

>Flynn
disgusting hippie that took Yaso-Magatsuhi's forma to fuse and get free inhalations, but as a Godslayer, he has no need for sex. The lower the life form, the larger its offspring, because the death risk is high. Therefore, Kalki doesn’t need any descendants or fellow. There is but only one Godslayer!
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>>167083519
But Angels have no Gender and one of them was roleplaying as a woman anyway, I atleast asume that's where Doi-Merk´s tits come from.
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>>167082715
Krishna is for Flynn
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>>167083797
Who isn't, though?
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>>167083512
Bandwith shittery, I guess. Blame gookmoot.
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>>167083512
No problems here. Maybe it's because I'm using 4chan X
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>>167081264
pls respond
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>haven't played an SMT game in over a year or so
>finally got Apocalypse
I forgot how addicting this series is. I've been playing nonstop for the past week so far.
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>>167007342
xbox one is a ps4 jr fuck out of here
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>>167051615
Soul Hackers is the only good SMT game
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New Digital Devil Story summary translation when
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>>167087448
That was like half a thread ago, not having this convo. I'm sure /r/megaten would love to fanboy out with you
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>>167086351
I really need to get around to making a custom 3ds theme with this

I just need to figure out what to set as the bottom image
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Is any of finals dlc worth it?
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Why was Inanna mad at Danu for taking her powers, but not equally hating YHVH for destroying her civilization?
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>>167088834
>the translation of Avatar Tuner Volume 2 and the rest of the saga willnever be released
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>>167089946
If you pay for it, nah not really. You could use the same money to buy a new full game from a sale.

Although Cleopatra and Mephisto are great demons, and Stephen is the ultimate boss of the game.
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>>167090316
If Stephen was the ultimate boss of the game, then why didn't he kill YHVH himself?
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>>167090316
I have like 6 dollars left over from 4 x awakening promotion still sitting in my account, so it's sorta free.
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>>167090157
I'm at this point where I don't even care that much if QDS won't be fully translated, I just want the third volume to be translated as soon as possible.
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>>167090432
He's amassing an army of Messiahs to fight The Great Will. He needs them to get strong, so he can't do that for them.
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How do we fix YHWH
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>>167095049
>YHWH
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>>167095143
That's the first step in fixing
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>3DS project is Card Summoner 2
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>>167095975
I would be perfectly okay with this.
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>>167095049
We fix YHWH by making Law look like a better option, and point out that people willingly join his covenant of their own free will because they want salvation. Also shit on Neutral for being indecisive and refusing to address humanity's problems.
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>>167095049
We do away with the traditional alignments.
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SMT needs more Western Cryptid demons.
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Thomas, how hard would you fuck Leanan Sidhe?
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>>167101817
can't get it up
>>
Hoy
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Is going through the effort of putting High Phys Pleroma on Matador worth it?
>>
Guys
A New World or Yamato's Way
Fuck Daichi and Ronaldo's way.
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It's nice Final gave the Fiends their unique skills again
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Any tips for beating jezebel in smt devil survivor overclocked? No spoilers please
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>>167107883
Drain, Null Fire
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You are not worthy of Valhalla.
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>>167107883


one leader should have ice dance with ice boost/amp and another leader should have bufudyne and whatever ice damage boost you have left.

the third leader should be more concerned with the other demons that pop up so it matters less what he has.
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>>167108863
Fuck you, Odin! I'll make my own Valhalla when I've killed YHVH, with blackjack. And hookers.
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>>167108073
drain as in drain fire or drain the attack?
>>167109176
cool, what level should I be at? I'm level 50 atm

I'm using keisuke (I have mari though), yuzu and atsuro and my mc is a mage with 15 vit and str as per the OP tips suggestion.
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>>167109415
>drain as in drain fire or drain the attack?
Yes.
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Nocturne is both a disgrace and a shitstain to mailine
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>>167109476
w-which one
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>>167109490
>IV/IV Final are both a disgrace and a shitstain to mailine
Fixed.
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>>167109537
Yes.
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>>167109415
Drain the Attack
Drain Fire
Null Fire

Once she is out of MP she is fucked. I had a Drain Fire Demon on one side and a Null Fire on the other which I just drained with Hero who had Anti Fire.
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>>167109741
cool i'll try this
keisuke or mari though?
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>>167109628
IV is meh, FINAL is a huge improvement
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>>167109790
>Keisuke for anything

Literally the Cielo of DeSu
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>>167109490
>>167109628
Why? Do they deliver late or something?
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>>167109874
>Talking shit about Cielo.
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SMT is both a disgrace and a shitstain to Persona
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>>167109790
Keisuke is faster but Mari has more VIT. Both are good.
>>167109874
But Keisuke is great. Cielo is far, far worse than any DeSu character.
>>167109881
We had to wait almost a decade for both games.
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>>167110054
>le snowy pikachu meme
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Pfft, look at all the fags playing their shitty weeb RPGs, how about you play a REAL SMT game for once kids
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SATAN GUIDE MY COCK
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>>167110753

Fuck off, Mara.
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Wat do
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>Shiva
>DOUBLE EXTRA

Shiva fuck off I'm not even playing DDS
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>>167111669
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>>167111723

you know it's surprising that no enemy in either SMTIV game has beast/dragon eye.
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>>167112018
masakdoodoo
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>>167112018
Given how broken Smirk can still be if you've got more than a couple of turns, that's a good thing.
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>>167112018

Mots in Twisted Tokyo have it, don't they?
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>>167111865
Damnit Dagda. Why am I so horrible at making choices.
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>>167077960
It's very easy to miss dialogue. Just leaving one area for another can change NPC dialogue.

It was a female demonoid if I recall right too.
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>>167112580
I think I triggered Dagda, sorry m8
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Choose 5 oldKaneko demons to get redesigned in the HD project.

Hard Mode: No High Pixie
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>>167114462
None, fuck redesigns
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>>167095975
>a modern megaten themed trading card game for the 3DS

Fuck, I didn't know I wanted this.
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>>167114462
I actually think her 3D model looks fine
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>>167114462
just bring gagyson back
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>orochi fight in DDS
>he actually runs out of MP midway from spamming so much
SMT games are truly magical experiences
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Do I pick Navarre or Toki as my goddess? It's been driving me upset for the past hour.
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>>167119191
>even considering toki
>ever
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>>167119191
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>>167119191
Toki. This isn't even up for debate.
>>167119445
>DDS reaction pic
>bad taste
Every single time.
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>>167119587
>liking Toki
>telling anyone they have bad taste
Shouldn't you be over at /pg/?
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>>167120063
Why would you choose Navarre over anyone else though? That green idiot doesn't deserve a third chance.
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>>167120181
>That green idiot doesn't deserve a third chance.
I won't disagree with you on that, but Toki is the only one choice someone could choose that is worse than Navarres bitchass.
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>>167120181
But Navarre is objectively the most useful partner with maybe Hallelujah.
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>>167120436
toki a thottie tho
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>3ds blown open
>Still no demon summoning homebrew.
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>>167120517
>he doesn't want Toki to sneak attack him and retaliate with pierce armor
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>>167120181
Navarre is one of the few characters who's friendship with Nanashi feels genuine. Plus he's way more useful in handing out free buffs. Toki is a law fag in denial: talking about pursuing freedom and strength while secretly coveting YHVH's world.
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>>167120581
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>>167120657
Inb4 it bricks your 3ds.
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>>167120632
>Navarre is one of the few characters who's friendship with Nanashi feels genuine
But we're talking about Dagda's fun fest here. You need to go full asshole and turn Nozomi or Isabeau into your megami, it's the only way.
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>>167120484
>Hallelujah can stop all status effects and apply endure even in the early game
>becomes significantly less useful after he powers up
Fucking why.
The amount of damage he dishes out isn't even worth the tradeoff for less consistent Warding Shouts.
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>>167120940
My fellow isabro
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I finally made it to the final battle in Apocalypse but I keep getting killed by the second part, any advice?
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>>167121107
Hit until it dies.
Don't let your HP reach zero.
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>>167121043
>new gimmick is that piercing magic attacks that are strong as fuck
>half the partners get pierce in the endgame

Half-Demon Hallelujah was a mistake.
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>>167121068
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>tfw stuck on YHVH second form in Apocalypse

Is there any skill that can make the battle easier?
I take one of his turns, I cancel his smirk, I use dekaja and the fucker still fucks both my teams.
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>>166988205
Does Apocalypse track what endings you've achieved like the SMT4? I got bonds and am NG+, is there any reason to go back for Massacre, Law and Chaos? Should i start filling the compendium on this file and not beat the game again?
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>>167122463
Yeah, you get titles for your online card thing IIRC for each ending.
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>>167119191
navarre, pick that delicious green bubbly ass
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>>167120657
Why haven't you hacked your COMP yet?
>b-but I don't want to become a demon summoner!

It doesn't matter. If you hack your COMP you can get a badass red and black interface, enter the demon auction site to buy qt demon sex slaves, FREE offline messaging with other users you have come in contact with, access to Laplace Mail so you can see your future and change your destiny, and see the death clock of those around you.

YOU LITERALLY HAVE NO EXCUSE.
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>>167123046
I don't want that stupid 3DS lookalike.

I want this COMP.
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what the fuck is this guys problem
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>>167124457
He's a virgin
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>>167124457
MAY YOU BE BLESSED NANASHI
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>>167081264
This exists?
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>>167098994
I'm glad they have my home state's trademark demon.
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>>167123434
I want this COMP.
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>>167126305
>Jazz for your Soul
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>>167126745
>Jazz for your Soul Hackers
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>>167122560
Guess i'll start being a dick to my friends this time around. I hear that the strict alignment points system was killed, but if you get to Dagda's big ultimatum and choose contrary to your actions throughout the game you'll lose your entire inventory. Is there anything else about massacre i be should be on the watch for?
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>KID
Don't scare me like that daddy.
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smtg what is the name of the demon with purple skin and hair covering her breasts
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>>167129481
Yaksini. Learn your demons you casual.
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>>167129541
thanks love
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>>167129991
nich go away
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>>167048678
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>>167129991
Do I get extra coupons if I challenge him to a duel?
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Childhood for idolizing Meguro.
Adulhood for realizing Koduka making much more sense.
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>>167133015
>Koduka
literally WHO
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>>167133015
Nah mate
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>>167133317
I bet you're "babies first jazz"-loving personashiter.
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>>167133015
Not quite.
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>>167133015
Well, yeah, that's a no-brainer. Meguro can only come up with uninspired, generic shit. He's the worst Megaten composer.
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>>167093031
You can't "fight" the great will. Its not an entity proper. What exactly he thinks he's doing is left ambiguous.
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>>167090432
One reason is that its part of neutral's "thing" to not have supernatural figures override human actions too directly. And this is apparently so important that he has to let neutral lose if they can't win without him directly fighting for them.

In iva its also possible that this is part of the contrived godslayer plot. Since he transcended his humanity someoe who is a regular human needs to do it. Nevermind that even if that were true he could still help more directly like satan did.
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Where do i buy this jacket?
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>>167133015
who's doing V
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>>167096772
Its too late for that though. Atlus shitting on law less is one thing, but even law disliking yhvh has been a staple of the series literally since its second game. Its true that that aspect doesn't show up in every game, but its been established so strongly that yhvh is a totally unlikable dick that trying to make him seem positive would be a bizarre 180. Hell, iva has steven set him up as like the biggest threat in the multiverse, since he is such a tempting yet oppressive idea.

The strange thing is that in devil survivor he shifts gears to be much more positive. Enough so that even on neutral endings he is not an antagonistic force. But this is highly strange, since even though different worlds have different rules it makes it suspicious whether to trust that that world is as it seems.

The real takeaway at this point is that yhvh is seen as transcending mere law. Even in II part of the entire reason for fighting him is that he is seemingly exempt from what he wants people who follow him to do. He breaks the no smirking if law rule, etc. In strange journey you can restore the yhvh analogue even if not on law, etc. If anything, that line of thought should be expanded.
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>>167106745
Both are shit. Enjoy having no technology.
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>>167111669
Brace for the inevitable disappointment either way.
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>>167114462
michael, raphael, gabriel, uriel, and metatron.

Lets be honest. All five of those are way too late 80s early 90s. They can maybe aesthetically look similar to remind you who they are, but lets be reasonable. Michael in religious art looks androgynous or young, despite sometimes having big muscles. Why did he turn into a grizzled masculine guy who looks like he should have some kind of military general hat on?
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>>167136009
No fuck off
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>>167136078
this, they should never EVER touch the fucking archangels again.
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>>167136204
After what happened last time, they're probably never going to again. You can see the regular Gabriel in the SMTV trailer.
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>>167136204
Why? The ones in IV were incoherent, but they were by far the best guest art. They looked cool, despite not looking like real entities and not matching anything else in the game but lilith.

Making new art =/= making that art. Get someone who isn't retarded to make new art. The status quo isn't god. They've looked shit since the beginning of the series. And its time to replace the truly bad art.
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>>167136436
They looked fucking awful and the current designs are fine.
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>>167136009
>All five of those are way too late 80s early 90s
Absolutely not.
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>>167136009

I'll second this, I actually like metatron, but I'm going to be one of those people and say I like the IV designs way more than the normal ones for the archangels, because at least they're interesting even if over designed.

Kaneko's archangels are complete generic garbage.
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>>167136480
They're really not. They don't even match the aesthetic of the other angels. They look very out of place. If you look at the angel art, all of them look either feminine or androgynous, or some kind of inhuman thing. Which is consistent with historical angel artwork. The main archangels are the only ones who look overly masculine in an overt way that focuses on them themselves rather than their affiliation with an army. And its not even a way that makes sense. They wear armor like vests and have bare arms that look like they are trying to look like a random person who gets into street brawls in an 80s movie, except their shirt is a breastplate. It looks like shit, their 80s hair looks like shit, and it doesn't look anything like the aesthetic of the side. Unlike say, mastema who does in fact match the side better.
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>>167133015
>Meguro will probably make music for the HD project because it looks like Nocturne 2: Electric Boogaloo
fuck
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>>167136770

Bu...But. Generic neon colored romans that could be literally any random angel are ze best designs ever.
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>>167136940
>>167136770
>>167136556
You guys are fucking retarded.
The new angels have nothing to do with the source material.
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>>167137103
n-no its too 80s!!!
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>>167137103
But look how FLASHY the new design is!
It's so much better than that ugly ass 80s/90s style!
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the only bad on is raphael
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>>167137103
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>>167137204
kek
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>>167137103
>Has lily
>Nothing else is like source material
>Super generic

Sorry anon, but you're retarded. Just because Kaneko makes it doesn't make it good.
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>>167137103
iconic, yeah right
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>>167137245
Just fucking try to defend the IV designs. Try, name one good thing about them.
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>>167137316
You cannot be serious.
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>>167137327

I don't even like the IV designs.

Just saying if you legitimately think Kaneko's archangels are good you're retarded.

They should be redesigned again is all.
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>>167137382
>Just saying if you legitimately think Kaneko's archangels are good you're retarded.
But they are. You're just spouting that they're generic and too 80's, but neither of those things are true, and trying to not be "generic" is what resulted in the overdesigned mess that the IV ones were.
You just sound like a contrarian with the "you just like Kaneko" rhetoric.
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>>167137382
Already been burned once, I riot if they change them that drastically again.
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Redesign Alice into a trap.
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>>167136940
They don't even look like romans. Roman armor had short sleeves at least. And so does classical angel artwork. The art swung and missed by combining armor with an 80s street gang. At the very least michael should have looked closer to his main religious depiction. And the others built around this fact.

>>167137103
No one's saying that the ones on the right make sense. They're pointing out how fuck ugly the one on the left is. There's a reason that the archangels are nobody's favorite characters. It looks like she forgot to get dressed all the way then stepped into some nuclear fallout. Not only that, being sleevess with armor was a design clearly made for a guy, yet she got a sex change between I and II. It looks like cheesy 80s garbage that would get away with being a tmnt villain due to shitty kids comics having no standards or need for characters to be colors that make sense. This level of cheese is something that doesn't match the games, and definitely shouldn't be what are ostensibly the main law figures. They are eyesores.

The IV designs make no sense in game, but are decent as stand alone art pieces. The shitty kaneko archangels are indefensible from the ground up. They hail from a long past time and need to be put to rest so that the archangels can actually be taken seriously as characters. Compare with mastema who actually matches the law aesthetic.

> You're just spouting that they're generic and too 80's,

Anon, we're not the same person. And you are putting yourself deep in the red if you even try to deny that they very obviously look 80s, since that's not something you can seriously claim if you look at their hair. And this is not in a good way.
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>>167137531
She's already shit, may as well just put that final nail in the coffin.
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>>167137484

Not that anon. I never said they were too 80's.

Just saying throwing in a lily or a spear and then painting them purple and green, throwing on some wings, and acting like they're super true to mythology and well designed is just lol.

and Kaneko has a lot of great designs, but he also has a lot of shitty ones, like the archangels.
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>wahh wahh why dont they look like umaru-chan wahh
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My demons are a bit different
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>mfw these idiots who want the archangels changed will never ever get that to actually happen
Whine all you want.
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>>167137806
>he doesn't want qt waifu angels
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>>167137204
the one in the middle suck, who designed that shit?
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>>167137843
Behold my demons!
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>>167137854
Because obviously people thought posting about this on an obscure english board would change japanese games.
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>>167137854
i'm writing a senator now
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>>167137934
Stay man that those "generic 80's designs" are gonna keep being used buddy.
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>>167137936
i hope that is thorman
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>/smtg/ being active again
holy shit
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>>167138167

Only when we discuss what is or isn't shit.
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>>167138931
The same character perhaps?
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>>167137531
>Looks exactly the same but is Teddie
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>>167137531
So, Teddie from P4?
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>>167138931
Speaking of narumi, I legitimately don't get his character. Is he meant to be implied to be actually pulling his weight in the detective work department, or is he meant to be incompetent and you humor him since you live with him. The game seems to go back and forth. Most random scenes show him being wacky and doing nothing, but the chapter ends make it look like you're working together seriously.
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>>167139769
>that image
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>167138305
desu is shit but less shit than ronde but more shit that nocturne
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>>167139790
>>167139812
why do you guys ruin everything
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>>167140437
where do you think you are, candy ass?
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>>167140437
Do you accept that humans can not be left on their own yet?
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>>166998624
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>>166998624
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>>167137660
you're wrong by the way, just fyi
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In Final I've just killed Shesha a second time, am I far off finishing the game?
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>>167145730
There's actually a lot left.
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>>167145730
You're almost to the half way point
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>>167145730
You'll be around level 80-85 when you're about to get done with the game. Use that to gauge your progress.
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>>167145767
>>167145779
>>167145835
Damn, right on. Cheers.
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female protag when?
i want to lose aganist demons and suffer the wrath of delicious BDC (Big Demon Cock)
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>>167146621
You already do.
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>>167146621
There should be an option for both. Though, I don't know how many women actually play smt
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>>167147080
Enough that in any game where it would make little difference there's no reason not to allow it. All the yaoi shit in the last two games probably wasn't to appeal to their male fanbase. Its admitting that some girls play it. For a game like final fantasy its different, but for silent self inserts there's little reason not to have it. It would take minimal time to add.
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Tell me anons, would you actually want a 3d remake of nocturne?
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>>167147494
No. Put it on a decent system instead.
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>>167147519
So, the same game, but just ported to a better console?

But anon, every console but the ps2 is shit or can't run nocturne.
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>>167146621
Shin Megami Tensei if... localization when?
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>>167147494
No. It has no plot, and little interesting to look at. Its selling point is gameplay. Which already exists. If they were really going to make a full scale badass remake, remake II. Or at least I.
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>>167147658
Anon, lets face it, the games never really had a immense amount of plot, gameplay is what sold most people, even apocalypse, the newest one is just "You died, kill faggots killing everyone, kill your friends boyo, kill YHWH to make muh universe, get concubine, become god".
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>>167147829
That's because they were written too much like tabletop rpg plots which focus on establishing a world, and leave you to have your own adventure that's mostly pointless sidequests. But the world itself alone deserves more detail. And the plots can be expanded. Which is my point.

Take II. If you took that plot, but gave it to the people who made xenosaga to remake into a 3d game, the result would be pretty great after a few expansions. Preserve enough of the original that the main characters are obviously themselves, but add new characters and additions such that even people who played II will be surprised.
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>>167148015
Id say that 3s world is actually really interesting, it just never got enough polish.

Kagutsuchi being at its brightest and fucking with demons for a while in noticeable ways for demons outside of battle was something I always wanted, the locations we go to are suprisingly well designed and if it has better graphics and some more polish in its story, I think it could really become something much better. The locations and town being a bit more alive, more models and people to talk to in underground malls, more organized daemons in the demon HQs, it would help it a lot more.

II has a lot of potential too, Im not against it gettinga remake at all anon, but maybe 3 needs it a bit more.
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Rank the IVA best friends in terms of likability

Navarre > Isabeau > Gaston > Asahi > Toki > Nozomi
Hallelujah >
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>>167148512

navarre > asahi >hallelujah > isabeau > toki > gaston > nozomi
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>>167148512
Dadga>>>Random pixie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone else
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>>167148512
Asahi > kill them all
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Is it just me, or is DeSu not on the pal eshop. Why?
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>>167148512
Asahi > Isabeau > Navarre = Gaston >>> Hallelujah >>>>> Nozomi >>>>>>>>>>> Toki
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>>167148729
See, I can almost sympathize with dagdafags who don't want to admit how dumb as shit his actual plan was and ignore it in favor of their headcanon. Because the idea of leaving your humanity and becoming a god with asahi is actually the makings of a good plot that the game failed to deliver on. Because the plot about two kids in over their heads who eachother are the only stable things in their lives as things change around them, and each change is horrible and who care about eachother more than anything else is interesting. And them sticking with eachother through it all and undergoing a change so radical that nothing else even tenuously remains the same would be interesting.

Instead we get an asshole who doesn't seem to care about anyone brainwashing two people into slaves as part of a plan to turn humanity too autistic to work together so that a skeleton can become wind. The benefits if any to this are never even expanded on in any way that sounds like it should convince anyone.
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All the shit taste ITT
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>>167133015
What was the last good Meguro album?
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>>167146954
I don't understand this Flynn being a girly boy meme
You ever seen Flynn's model in game?
Easily the most jacked mainline protag after Space Marine.
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>>167150683
I don't either desu. Maybe its just his hair.
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>>167150683
Everyone's just gay, anon. Don't think to much about it.
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>>167150030
Dagda hates dumbshits and almost everyone is a dumbshit.

Dagda made it clear that you were his protegé and were meant to obey him, but he kept tolerating you clinging to your human nature, but trying his best to show you that his way was the best, and it was.

Nanashi was and is a silent protagonist whose entire personality is made up exclusively from whatever options of text you can, and this is smt, nobody here is a good guy or a good character, nanashi is a product of its game, don't act like wanking your friends is any better than autistic lonesome godhood with a concubine for a skeleton that just wanted to be one with the universe.
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>>167150683
His Japanese VA is the poster boy for Shotas
That's maybe half the reason for the trap Flynn pics that are uploaded to pixiv

Also the ponytail
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>>167150784
>don't act like wanking your friends is any better than

?? But that was my point. The bonds ending is retarded like every neutral ending, except more ridiculous since its now happy go lucky. The only good aspect it even has over normal is a real demonic representative. And even that is someone utterly irrelevant to the plot. My point was that people really wanted dagda's ending to not be retarded because it was the game's one shot at a good ending. But it was retarded anyways, and some people were in denial.
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>tfw remember Devil Survivor doujins exist
>look em up on sadpanda
>find https://exhentai.org/g/920498/613bd954a0/
>find https://exhentai.org/g/334671/e5111bf8cf/
These untranslated ones need to be translated. Holy fuck.
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>>167151042
Almost everything in smt is retarded, expecting a good plot from any smt game is kinda delusional anon.
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>>167151242
>Longhorn Train did an smt doujin
Thank you for showing me this anon
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>>167151623
If anyone here actually knows moon enough to want to translate some doujins, I'd appreciate it.
>those expressions in the Daichi doujin
>especially Yamato

There's also https://exhentai.org/g/952014/086e443cb6/
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I finished watching the DeSu2 anime recently, out of curiousity.
It wasn't fantastic, but it wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be either. Needed to be longer, though. Too much shit got glossed over or shuffled around.
Best part was getting to watch demons fight. I wish there were more MegaTen anime.
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>>167151840
The problem was unnessesary edge on the story, DeSu 2 is way more lighted heart than the rest of series. Also killing everyone makes nicaea a moot point since that shit is a warning to save someone in the game, the entire plot goes full retard because the games point the damn death as something that the player should avoid and say fuck you to destiny.
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>>167148512
Gaston > Navarre >>>>>> Isabeau >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toki > Asahi
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>>167153608
and fuck everyone else
I actually forgot to include them but they're all shit anyway
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>>167151840
The dark aesthetic it had was really an improvement. But yeah. It trivialized the final like three septentriones, giving them two minutes an episode and making the struggle just about hibiki versus yamato. Then it made polaris "god" even though the story deliberately avoided that the first time around.
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>>167148512
Navarre > everyone
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>>167154458
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>>167154458
How did they manage to make Navarre likeable this time around?
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>>167124457
Gaston was under a lot of pressure to clear his family's name after Navarre soiled it. Plus, he didn't want to be vaporized by Merkbah, who purges anything he deems filth.
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>>167155249
Pretty easy. Write him completely different from how he was before.
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>>167155249
Not trying to kill you + plenty of self introspections during the game + being an actually useful partner.
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Let's fix the shit designs.
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>>167135659
But YHVH was made that way by humans to show off the strength of their respective civilizations, and humans deep down covet Law because it provides order, food, shelter, and peace.
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>>167155591
Let's make the archangels robotic flying faces so they follow a theme and are like YHVH
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>>167156113
Fear not
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>>167151267
Bonds route in Apocalypse was even more retarded because it reveals that humans secretly wanted to be ruled by a mommy goddess and coddled like children.
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>>167157253
What game did you play? There is no mommy godess in bonds. Danu is irrelevant to the plot and isn't implied to be relevant to the new world, and the godess of tokyo doesn't seem to do or be anything other than a symbolic representation of tokyo getting back together that nobody but your party even knows about.
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>>167148512
Dagda > shit > everyone else
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>>167155249
by making him the best partner during boss fights
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>>167150123
Persona 3 Reincarnation
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>>167151242
I thought that all the Desu doujins were NTR shit.
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>fuse Krishna
>he actually does learn Salvation
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>>167158529
I prefer doggo, honestly.
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What's the build order for auto attack warriors now? Boots, Gladiator's, Frostbound, Qins? That provides 40 physical defense and 300 health, not very defensive for 4 items in.

Maybe Boots, Gladiator's, Hide of the Urchin, Qins?
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>>167160937
u wot
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>>167158815
They're not. And they're good.
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>>167121575
This

Cuckposters are the worst
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>>167121865
Drain phys and pierce whatever, don't use imposing stance. You wait for him to use rampage, then you just smirk his ass
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:/
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>>167160937
>>167161306
FUCK. Wrong general.
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>>167148512
Navarre > Isabeau > Asahi > Gaston > Hallelujah >> Nozomi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toki
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>>167162112
I'll allow it. Nozomi should be closer to toki though.
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>>167161821
I like it more than any other Satan of the series.

I feel like Doi had a big creative streak while doing designs for this game, but most of them weren't used in the final product.
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>>167148512
Gaston > Navarre > Isabeau > Hallelulah > Nozomi > Toki > Napaea > that one Ashura-Kai henchman > Asahi
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>>167162112
>Nozomi
>above anyone
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>>167162263
>>167162524
I really dislike Nozomi, but I have to say that Toki is one of the worst fictional character I have ever seen with my own eyes. She's as autistic as her fanbase
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>>167162553
lol, okay
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>>167137531
nigga kys
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Apocalypse Satan > Persona 1 Satan > SMT2 Satan > Devil Children Satan > Majin Tensei Satan > MT2 Satan > Spiral Nemesis Satan

fite me
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>>167147080
A lot of women play it in Japan apparently, and the female fans are pretty vocal on pixiv and twitter, and before that on their own homepages. I think the reason why they're making some of the protagonists young and androgynous is to appeal to a female audience, so they can either self-insert even if Flynn or Nanashi are guys, or they can just find them cute. As for the western fans I'm not sure, but there are girls who like the series, they're just not pandered to like the Japanese fujos. I'm surprised there aren't that many megaten BL doujins, actually, there's so much potential. Personally I'm fine with only male protagonists as long as the female characters overall keep being interesting and/or cute as usual.
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Is there anything to be gained combat-wise from going massacre? If you go bonds, you get the assist gauge, which is broken. Is there anything like that on massacre?
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>>167162553
Yeah. Her character seemed like it was cancerous from the ground up. Lets list the ways.

-Is a literal loli to overtly appeal to pedophiles in an ostensibly serious rpg. Most games are more subtle, or at least don't take themselves as seriously, like disgaea. She is designed to look young even relative to the other characters, talks about being too young, and has an orgasm in game that no one on earth was fooled by the plot reason to justify its occurence.

-You find her with her life having been brainwashed into a literal slave by crazy people. Her character comes off like someone you should feel sorry for due to her life that was shit even in the circumstances. Instead the game assumes you want to fuck her.

-She goes from being brainwashed to having a crazy obsessed mentality over you. Nothing about this seems like its a sane mentality at all. To date her before helping her come out of that would be to literally exploit a crazy person who doesn't know how to respond to not being used as a slave since they never experienced it before. Hell, her calling you master is probably because she's used to referring to people in charge of her group as master. Did I mention she's a loli? The game is asking if you want a crazy brainwashed loli who neither knows nor wants anything but your dick.

-Lo and behind you find out that she is STILL POSSESSED but this time its by a sex demon making her want you. So her obsession with you may never have been genuine at all. Its a combination of being abused and being possessed. Strangely, once she stops being posessed she acts the same. She secretly was glad asahi died. That's how crazy she is.

-she at the end of the game insists she still wants a world of str. Why? At this point she should hate the ideology of the people who abused her. There's no reason for her not to. If she's this obsessed why doesn't she conform to your ideology?

-She has no eyebrows. Girls with no eyebrows are not sane.

Did I miss anything?
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>>167148512
Asahi > Hallelujah > Toki > Navarre > Isabeau > Gaston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nozomi
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>>167163292
I'll allow it.
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>>167163098
She's like 12
I know SMTs casts are generally comprised of young individuals, but she's just way too young.
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>>167163098
No, I'm still going to have to say Nozomi is worse.
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>>167163098
-She isn't barefoot
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>>167146621
On the off-chance that ever happens, it'd make next to no difference to anything going on that you'd forget her gender anyway.

>>167147080
>>167162998
The women in Japan who play SMT aren't looking to self-insert, they're looking to ship, usually boy x boy, hence why it hasn't been done.
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>>167163542

Aleph wasn't even a year old.

And no, accelerated aging is not an excuse.
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>>167163098

Oh, right. I should have included that she more or less has no meaningful character progression after joining your team. She starts crazy, and she more or less stays crazy. Her progression is that in the last scene she sounds slightly less crazy? At no point does anything ever really happen to deal with her craziness. The game expects you to find it endearing, but actually its just creepy since the game expects you to be aroused by a brainwashed twelve year old.
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>>167163098
My problem with her is that there ends up being literally nothing to her character outside waifubait. Even Persona 4 characters had at least one other gimmick to their character, as shallow as they were.
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>>167164118
An excuse for what? The center shipping you with beth isn't meant to be seen as uber positive, and you and hiroko by the ending is meant to be seen as just how things are. Your characters are meant to be seen as their relative right ages with accelerated growth so it does lessen it.
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>>167164271
I think the game was also trying to merge her character with the cold badass assasin who doesn't exist outside of thier job archetype. Like boba fett and jaffar. Problem is that she is like this due to being abused. So instead of thinking she is badass you feel sorry for her. And her being a loli waifu who is all over your dick makes the cold badass part fall flat. And her cold lines about muh target aquired come off more cringe than anything.
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>age
>relevant at all
>definitely not arbitrarily assigned to fit the story
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Should Smirk return in future installments?
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>>167164529
Yes, but only demons of your alignment should be able to smirk. And vitality should return too.
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>>167164712
A modification of this would be nice for a SJ remake. Only demons of your alignment can smirk. Incentive to give a shit about alignments, but not so much that it gets in your way. Also, buff Sea of Chaos, Judgment and the law equivalent skill, please (should deal severe damage against respective alignments)
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>>167162998
>I'm surprised there aren't that many megaten BL doujins
Well there's no lack of them, especially for Nocturne, Raidou, and DeSu2. I've seen a number for other games as well.

I wonder if we'll have another demon bro next game because the nip fujos liked Dagda.
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>>167163098
delete this
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>>167157674
He goddess of Tokyo coming back when the firmament is still there and Mikado still exists while the people of Tokyo are still stranded beneath rock and stranded in darkness was pretty retarded.

Should've lowered the firmament then went off to kill YHvH or whatever. That alone would've made the ending less retarded. No way to fully salvage it though.
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>>167165410
More importantly, if the game wanted bonds to be an inclusive ending where toki and gaston ostensibly are still chaos and law, then it shouldn't have called it neutral, but instead had a plot about the alignments working together in general, with the future left open ended. Let there be "bad" versions of the alignments that all don't like, but don't retcon IVs demons into them. And don't ressurect everyone from the egg. That shit is too retardedly positive.
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>>167164118
Replicants aren't humans
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>>167165568
>And don't ressurect everyone from the egg. That shit is too retardedly positive.
Ressurecting Asahi was bad enough. First her father is killed, then she dies, and she's doomed to be forever irredeemed. That really motivated me. Then, she's just resurrected like fuck-all had happened. So stupid
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>>167165769
The game really stupidly ignores that any demon that can ressurect people is the most dangerous person on any side. Like, it seems like there's barely any limits to this power as long as they have their soul. Why was krishna not targeting dagda himself instead of you the second he knew dagda betrayed them?

Also, another cringe thing from toki is the part where she says that maitreya has no right to tell you how to life your life. That shit was stupid.
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>>167165939

Yeah, there's too many plotholes. So a forgotten god that nobody worships is ridiculously more powerful than a variety of other dietiies that by all right should be able to do the same thing or more, and actually actively have worshippers are butt fucking useless and weak.
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>>167166257
Hell, resurrection is so overpowered that every damn god would be telling their worshipers to observe them as a god with powers of resurrection.
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>>167166257
To be fair, the Divine Powers don't want anyone resurrected, do they? They just want to catch 'em all and stuff the souls into the Cosmic Egg.
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>>167166578
But they have reason to kill other sides' figures who can resurrect.
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>>167166665
Sure, but what I'm saying is that other gods not showing the power to resurrect doesn't mean they can't. I'm sure there's a few that have it in their divine wavelength, at least.

Something completely different: I hope SMT 5 does away with the races that can only be made by error. Or at least that the chances are significantly boosted, because FUCK having to reset and reset and reset for just one single demon that isn't even remotely good.
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>Null Auto
>Auto skill to null auto skill

Does the enemy still waste MP? Otherwise seems not worth it especially 15 Ag cost
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>>167163098
>Her character comes off like someone you should feel sorry for due to her life that was shit even in the circumstances. Instead the game assumes you want to fuck her.
You can feel sorry for her and still want to fuck her.
Maybe tender love making is something that could let her forget her shitty childhood and makes her happy. You never know until you try (asking is not necessary since she already said she wants it)
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>last Septentrione is a dreidel

Jews of course
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>>167169952
Strange way to say "cheesecake sampler corn kernel".
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>>167170542
Actually now that I face it up close it looks like a radish
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Any other stats I should focus on if I go dex in IVF?
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>>167170978
luck and a sprinkling of agility
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>>167163062
Stop perpetuating the misuse of the word "broken".
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>>167170978
Agility with a sprinkling of luck
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>>167170978
Equal amounts of agility and luck.
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>>167170978
str
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>>167170978
STR for men
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Playing P2 IS, so someone please tell me this isn't "permanent"

I'm not sure what caused this, if it's what happens when I enter the water temple or if it's from that sidequest I did at the abandoned factory where a cow thing cast some spell that didn't seem to do anything and died, but I lost all levels on all my partys personas

If it's that cow then I've been trolled pretty hard
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>>167137103
Nu-briel is out simply because P5 didn't go with it. End of story, they chose the old designs, not likely to scrap them to make new ones after the backlash.
And damn right they chose them, nu-archangels are literally impossible to make into 3d models with reasonable polycount/fidelity.
At least they started getting better from this hiccup and Doi has a distinct line-fetish that is easy to replicate in models.
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Will Kek be a demon in smt5 ?
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Im doing a solo run on apocalypse, how far do you guys think I can go?
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>>167174787
Until King Frost.
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>>167172627
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Kudan
>Prophecy
>Sacrifice self to reduce all enemy Personas to rank 1.
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>>167170978
Luck and Agility. STR is for gay men.
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>>167175770
why does that exist?
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>>167175641
I already beat the first shesha
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>>167176838
How dare you to prove me wrong, you asshole?
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>>167155591
Not that bad. Just literally drop the needless definition of the woodflesh and give them smoother surfaces.
This is the single problem with shit designs of IV. Absolute allergy to smooth surfaces.
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>>167177029
i'll give you another chance, what will kill me?
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>>167176245
Blame Persona 2 and the shitty battle system.
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>>167177151
Sheha's second round.

>endurance run where you'll do piss poor damage even with buffs and charge
>no healers unless you pick Asahi
>but at that point she is a very bad healer and can easily die if Shesha strikes her

Now die.
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>>167177574
then I will grind skelenigga.
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>>167174009
they used old Odin too
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>>167177718
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>>167165057
Links that aren't dante/demifiend or adachi/yu?
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>>167178472
Yu/Yosuke
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>>167175770
Holy shit it actually was the cow, I can't really decide if I'm mad or not, fuck it, I'm mad
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>>167178472
I don't know about scanned, I just see them all the time for sale.
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>>167178680
I found some of that pairing too. So basically there's almost nothing compared to the number of characters that could count as fujobait, I'm still surprised. Or maybe they're just not scanned. I've seen one of Narumi/Raido once on pixiv too but that's it.
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>>167180087
they're not going to be scanned because western fujoshits don't play megaten
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>>167179927
He also does it in Eternal Punishment.
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>>167180087
Abel/Naoya is also a hot ship among fujos, but their doujins are digital only and not for free.
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>>167180087
Why are you looking at scans for a rep of what exists? Especially for something that's not even that popular outside Japan aside for P3/4.
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Persona 4 was my first SMT game. What's the next closest thing like that I should play?
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>>167182326
Persona 3
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>>167182326

Tokyo Mirage Sessions
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>>167182326
Apocalypse
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>>167182326
Nocturne

captcha: frei FOR SALE
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>>167180508
there's a surprising amount of nanashi/dagda
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>>167182707
why does nobody draw Toki? do I need to learn to draw just so I can bring more toki to the world?
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>>167183127
waifufags are busy with persona
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>>167183127
Yes
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Really makes your brain neurons work on a high frequency
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>>167184541
lol
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the 3ds game is going to be SMT Dancing All Night right?
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>>167184541
did this guy ever admit just how btfo he was by YHVH second form after he wrote it off so shallowly
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>>167185114
>SMT Theatrhythm
>Divine Powers Battle at hardest difficulty
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>>167185114
>SMT Dancing Furiously
>first track is a remix of the SMT II Disco theme
I would throw my money at this project
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>>167165939
But Inanna was treated as a threat because she could resurrect and empower demons, plus birth new humans. Krishna's excuse for not taking out Dagda was that he thought the Celtic God was harmless and crazy.
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>>167185114
SMT Theatrhyrhm or bust.
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>>167185114
I hope it'll be DeSu 3, honestly.
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>>167185114
>not Card Summoner 2
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>not a demikids port
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>>167185114
It's Devilizer
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>>167185114
It'll be Soul Hackers 2.
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>>167163098
Would Toki have been salvageable if Inanna took over and her conscious was gone forever?
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>>167187912
Inanna possessing Toki was the cause of half the problems and solves none of the rest.
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>>167164480
faggot
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>>167187912
But Inanna possessing Toki was the direct cause of the most awful scenes in Final along with "I'm actually a half-demon"
She needs a complete do-over
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>>167134780
is tatsuya a michael jackson fan?
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>>167192308
nips love him so probably
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>>167190982
why
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>>167164529
Fuck no
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What the fuck is his problem?
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Today
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Hoy.
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>>167196087
muh observation
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>>167182707
Does Dagda have a dick?
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>>167200813
he has a massive dong in traditional lore if that's what you're asking.

personally i want to know what's up with nanashi's eyebrows.
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>>167191897
>>167189962
I meant go full horror occult where Inanna slowly becomes the more dominant personality, and then takes over Toki without any hope of getting Toki back.
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THIS CAROUSEL
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>>167205432
CONFIRMED
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>>167205432
implying they'd use those trashy 80s designs
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>>167206647
But they did.
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>>167206834
ugh, seriously needs a redesign
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>>167206834

Hero a cute.
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>>167207435
I'll redesign your face if you don't shut up.
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>>167206834
he looks a lot like fudou akira
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>>166992934
yeah I was excited for my waifu to get a spotlight in apocalypse but they turned her into shit, and chagned her voice actor. toki is my new waifu
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>>167121865
drain/repel phys. I used that black card ginza armor that repels phys, and fafnir
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>>167124457
nothing. he is always right
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What ending should I go for first in Apoc?
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>>167137103
angels were originally described as incomprehensible monsters because humans aren't enlightened enough to understand their forms. it is an interesting take rather than lol guy with wings
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>>167136009
You can go ahead and kill yourself now
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>>167145835
no that's when you finish the almost last dungeon
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>>167163098
b-but she's the only grill who's ever loved me
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>>167158864
Samael does it better
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>>167136009
EAT A DICK, SON OF MAN.
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>>167211723
UGH ITS TOO 80's HE LOOKS LIKE A STREET GANG MEMBER WITH THAT HAIR
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>>167211848
metatron's design is a joke that overstayed it's welcome
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>>167211723
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>>167211848
>>167212342
BEHOLD, THE LORD HAS GRANTED ME A SHINIER FORM. AM I STILL "LAME" NOW?
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>>167211848
is this gonna be a meme
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If it hadn't been for cotton-eye Joe
I'd been married long time ago
Where did you come from? Where did you go?
Where did you come from cotton-eye Joe?
If it hadn't been for cotton-eye Joe
I'd been married long time ago
Where did you come from? Where did you go?
Where did you come from cotton-eye Joe?
He came to town like a midwinter storm
He rode through the fields so
Handsome and strong
His eyes was his tools and his smile was his gun
But all he had come for was having some fun
If it hadn't been for cotton-eye Joe
I'd been married long time ago
Where did you come from? Where did you go?
Where did you come from cotton-eye Joe?
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I pity you
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>>167215269
I remember when we thought that Dagda was the skeleton version of Walter when FINAL was just announced.
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Hoy
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I think I finally understood Apocalypse's decision to have you choose between Dagda and Danu.
Danu represents selfless human emotions and the ability to connect with other.
Dagda proposes the opposite: be selfish and cut yourself out of others.
But why are they like that? I'll develop my thoughts here.

Some people think the Bonds ending is a happy ending, but they are ignoring the future that this ending will bring:
Someday Nanashi will grown old and will probably watch his precious friends die before dying himself.
Can you imagine how soul crushing it will be for him after the smile he gave in the Bonds ending? These Bonds will lead him to his doom, as Dagda predicts. He will die a horrifying death, he will watch the people he loved decay and die as his body decays too. The people who helped him achieve the ultimate victory will be the ones who will also chain him to a foregone conclusion.

Dagda's ending is the opposite: Nanashi won't die of old age and he isn't bound by no aspect of humanity. He is free, both physically and spiritually. He won't decay. However, that doesn't mean he isn't doomed.
Eventually, someone holding the same ideals of Bonds he discarded is going to destroy him like he did with YHVH.

Both endings have the hidden prospect of Death, which is why Nanashi being a teenager has more credit than what it appears.
Teenagers haven't developed maturity yet, they aren't aware of their own mortality, but Nanashi was forced to face his mortality at a young age because of Dagda. Nanashi was forced to mature. After reaching maturity he can only follow two paths and there is really no third choice in this case.
Simple put, Apocalypse gives you the choice between being a caring person or a sociopath because it is trying to give you the choice of how you are going to mature.

Nanashi's fantastic battle against God, be it with his friends or alone, could be interpreted as the hopeless fight against your final destiny. But the focus is in how you fight it.
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I want to comfort Asahi.
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asahi is my spirt animal
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>>167216996
That was really well put.

Now if something like that was in the game or if only Dagda worded his reasoning like that it might have been great, but at least it inspired you to come with this introspection.
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>>167216996
But what about the Divine Powers?
What they represent and why they aren't a path?
They present themselves as Salvation, but I think Utopia is a better name.
It is basically to chase an impossible dream. Krishna claims the people would be saved by joining him, but he ignores the consequences.
It is true some people might like the idea, but not all will. Joining him wouldn't be the end, even if it was done he would fail to become a singularity. People who were forced to join him would never accept the union, he foolish believes people will accept him once they join him:
"At the dawn of my salvation, even you will understand the meaning of my words".
Maybe you would, but what about everybody else? Asahi wouldn't, I'm sure. No one from your party probably would accept Khrishna.
His plan to form a singularity was dead from the start, parts of it would always be at odds against the other.
Krishna's dream requires EVERY SINGLE human to accept his Salvation.
It requires people to be willing to all work together at the end.
An impossible dream of perfect cooperation that will never happen, Krishna was nothing but delusional. The moment his new universe was created and all people joined him it would only end up like it did with Vishnu-Flynn: with him being rejected and fighting inside himself against the people who didn't want to join him.
Even the "leaders" of the Divine Powers don't agree with each other.
Odin wanted a place where each god would have their fair of space, with no false gods.
Maitreya wanted people to abandon all attachments and fight alone in search for Salvation.
Krishna wanted all people to become one in a great singularity.
Reminds me of Nocturne's Reasons, by the way.

Basically, the Divine Powers represent the impossible dream of perfect cooperation of the people, that all people would have the same mindset.
It is a perfect thing for them, considering the nature of their group as a polytheistic alliance of gods from different religions.
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>>167216996
Danu is a CUNT GODDESS looking out for herself since she benefits from the current observation system. She'd rather have humans dependent on her than give them the strength to live on their own and lose the power and high granted by human faith
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>>167220752
No, this is Patrick.
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>>167218656

They're all cunts.

Literally every god/demon in IVA is a cunt except for Tenkai, Masakado(who is barely there) Sukuna Hikona, and Krishna. The fucking VILLAIN of all people.
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>>167222704
Krishna IS an asshole
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>>167212423
are they gonna fuck
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3DS project announcement fucking when?
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giten translation when
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>>167215516
Those were some fun times. Anyone has that pic with Walter's and Dagda's face overlapping implying they were the same person?
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>>167031848

what the fuck did I just watch?

Is there more?

Why is there fucking Persona anime everywhere and no SMT anime
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gaakPfKyAI&feature=youtu.be
when did this play ingame?
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i need to stay up all night to fix my sleep scedule,i want someone to hang out with and play games with. i promise im a cute girl and not a grown man
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>>167228598

I just watched it for first time see >>167227567

and that demon was such a weak faggot. COME ODSE PRESIDENT AAAAAAAA OMG ODSE YOU'RE HURT KILL ME FOR MORE ENERGY

bad ass the MC is literally Masakado tho and rekts giant godzilla Ose's shit.

I r8 a solid 8/10

why the fuck was that dude gay dude like you don't have to summon demons and shit just to get that dick yo
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>>167228772
what the fuck are you talking about dude
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>>167228853

n-nothing

its not like I just watched Tokyo Revelation and saw your picture and wanted to talk about it or anything... heh...
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>>167228929
no one here can decipher your post
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>>167228929
its alright baby i still love you
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>>167228772
Nigga, breath in, count to ten and then exhale. After that, rewrite your fucking post.
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>>167228963

I said Gagyson is a weak fucking faggot who used Akito and is a little bitch. When Ose gets hurt his like KILL ME FOR ENERGY

such a pussy demon, as per usual of chaos
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based old divine man

Why aren't you literally a law fag yet?
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>>167226846
Not when, now.

>Guide to play the Windows version of Giten Megami Tensei, and other useful links.
http://pastebin.com/0gguMLyL

>Custom character names
http://pastebin.com/21W8HmWY

>>167229095
He also reappears in Giten near the end of the game. The name's Jukai, by the way.
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>>167230685
Is Giten even canon?
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>>167231997
Of course, you fucking retard.
>Return everything to nothing
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>taking any route but law in any game
what the fuck is wrong with you kids
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>>167232065
Only thing worse than lawfags are the neutral fags.
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>>167232238
Anything is better than Neutral.
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>>167232271
I think you mean that there's nothing worse than Neutral.
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>>167232271
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>>167232419
>not posting the superior version
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Well that OP was anime as fuck.
Also the final boss for DDS 1 was really disappointing in terms of difficulty
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>>167232646
DDS in general is incredibly disappointing.
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>>167232646
The final bosses of both DDSs are really easy. Also fuck that ending.
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>>167232959
NEW THREAD
>>167232959
>>167232959
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>>167232987
>11 posts left
What are you doing?
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>>167232646
Final bosses in general tend to be pretty easy.
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>>167216996
This is a whole lot of bullshit if I've ever seen it.
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Deader than usual today. What is a good build for Soul Hacker MC and Nemissa? I heard Luc is useful for MC, yes?
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>>167238736
people moved to the fag's early new thread
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>>167239630
Oh, I see. Is Luc useful for MC though?
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>>167239878
Luck build is best build along with endurance to tank hits.
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>>167241328
Sounds good to me.How relevant is STR?
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>>167243326
A little.

In the endgame with full Tarukaja my MC was able to do some decent damage although not nearly as much as a dedicated physical demon. But I guess since he is an MC and you can point as many points as you want into him, he can be a decent asset in battle, but what SH has over other megaten games is that Luck will also level up your agility and accuracy from time to time, not to mention that a death MC=game over, so you won't want him to be affected by hama/mudo and ailments.
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>>167244017
Alright, thanks m'dude.
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>>167234876
Good gods, how will I ever recover from that?
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