/scg/edg/ Star Space Dangerous Citizen Elite General #125: VISIONs

Morning, suckers.

File: 1472202658260.png (173KB, 352x361px) Image search: [Google]

173KB, 352x361px

>>166641182
Good morning, anon.

What should I be looking at if I'm aching real bad for a freelancer fix? Open world pirate/trader kind of thing. I picked up EVERSPACETM which seems alright but it just made me want to play something that looks as nice as it does but lets me roam freely doing my own thing in a gameworld.

File: 0091_-_gu0XYfy.jpg (10KB, 234x250px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 234x250px

>>166641003
>VISIONs of ded Edition
I'm sorry, but did Star Citizen already flop? Oh, that’s right. The game isn’t even finished yet. In fact, it’s only half done. Does not having perfect physics in alpha count as a fail? Is that what you’re saying? Because if you’re saying that I can assure you that you’re wrong. Why would you make this topic when the game is still in development? CIG is still working right now and they have been the best kickstarter developers in the history of kickstarters for how many years now? They’re competing against some of the worst developers in the world who just happen to have a lead because they’re making much smaller games. But you know what? They still fucking suck. CIG is one of the best fucking studios in the world, they made 2.6 last year and would have released 3.0 if the backers didn’t whine. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you’re going to be embarrassed when CIG release Star Citizen and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Mass Effect Andromeda just flopped when it really needed to succeed just like the Call of Duty did. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I’m fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you’re the only guy making all these anti-CIG topics because you’re a faggot hater who doesn’t like the devs because they’re good. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking devs on the board, like I give a fuck. It’s so easy to spot out your threads now, you’re a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don’t you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That’s just you, you’re always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

File: 1475478520672.webm (2MB, 720x540px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 720x540px

Atv soon, hopefully it's better than last weeks.

Also Ben should never appear on camera ever again.

Mfw no Dan Te Man community manager.

>>166643098
god it's so easy to trigger sc fags because deep down they know they wasted money

>>166595997

Fuck that shit! Rocket chair!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4bszgrfE-k

>>166646372
When's the retaliator ejector going to function anyway
Or starfarer ejection pods far that matter

>>166647118

Good question lol. Also what stops the attacker of actually targeting the pods? Or are they easily maneuverable and can warp out like in eve? Who knows?

>also... fuck I miss Dead Space! Fags canceled the series but that shit is better than mass effect.

>>166647349
Well if it's anything like the existing ejection seats they'll be small and hard to see enough to act as protection. I have never visually seen someone eject, though the scoreboard tells me they did.

>>166643098
Poor pasta, senpai.
Make one for ED

>>166647495

That might be bad news for me because I was really hoping for the ability to scan wrecks so that players could salvage. If pods are undetectable so will wrecks (at least theres that possibility) and salvage may be limited to scripted missions instead of just shooting any NPC/player and be able to extract something.

If thats the case, salvage will suck!

File: new_retro_wave_by_k4rlswede-d5sbi0e.png (348KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

348KB, 1920x1080px

>>166641003
What is the most New Flash Wave ship in the Star Citizen?

>>166648231
avenger definitely

is this game play to win yet?

File: 20170126172751_1.jpg (344KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

344KB, 1920x1080px

What the fuck happened to this neutron star? No way I'm charging my FSD in that.

File: 20170125111105_1.jpg (238KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

238KB, 1920x1080px

>>166650010
As a comparison, this is a normal one.

File: 1485185550493.gif (355KB, 133x242px) Image search: [Google]

355KB, 133x242px

>>166650010
Does anyone else get legitimately scared by stuff like this? Like the time I jumped into a system between 2 very close stars I actually jumped out of my chair. Also was too afraid to get too close to the black hole in Maia. For some reason, just the natural hazards and bleakness of space really freak me out way more than cheesy aliens do. Im betting with VR it would be too spooky to play for me.

>>166651497
>Does anyone else get legitimately scared by
A screenshot of something not scary?

No.

>>166648231
>What is the most New Flash Wave ship in the Star Citizen?
Dragonfly.

>>166645345
>>166647593
OK I will try to make a new one since you don't appreciate/recognize it. Nu-4chan.

>>166641003
What game is this?

That spaceship looks awesome.

>>166651908
>OK I will try to make a new one

Please don't. You have no skill for it.

>>166651972
Elite Dangerous.
Don't play it. It's shit.

File: 20170126180242_1.jpg (385KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

385KB, 1920x1080px

>>166651497
Normal black holes like the one in Maia are harmless, which makes no sense. But Sagittarius A* will fuck you up if you get close.

I definitely suggest you get as close as you can to a black hole, hard to show in a screenshot but everything will be warped when you look around. Quite trippy.

>Does anyone else get legitimately scared by stuff like this
Considering I've been away from the bubble for 3 days now and I'm planning on cashing in a 60MCr mission + exploration data, yeah, I got a bit scared when that fucker showed up on the screen. The jets from it was huge, and once you are in one you lose control of your ship: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxyoX65Edv0

>>166652323
Oh.

Are there more pictures of those ships at least?

File: 20170126131703_1.jpg (234KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

234KB, 1920x1080px

>>166652578
Here's mine after 3 days of exploring. I need a new paintjob.

File: 20170126125715_1.jpg (180KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

180KB, 1920x1080px

>>166652660
>>166652578
Another one, this one from behind + Sagittarius A* in the background.

>>166652660
Neat, thanks.

>>166652813
Looks like an anus

>>166653008
The Great Galactic Anus

File: 1473179514673.png (2MB, 2000x1124px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2000x1124px

I missed the last Anniversary sale. When is the next time Ill be able to buy The Rack?

File: how can a spider be so smug.jpg (199KB, 672x672px) Image search: [Google]

199KB, 672x672px

>mfw just discovered my corvette is immune to the 4 reverb cascade torpedo meta
>because of a secondary bonus to shield generator module integrity

>>166656727
buy what?

>>166657325
the rack m8

>>166657390
Iraq?

File: 1484842743986.jpg (29KB, 450x448px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 450x448px

>>166657283
>hitting the ECM just as a fucking cloud of packhounds bears down on you, triggering it correctly and flying through a swarm of inert missiles
>fagging torps hard by swinging around and watching them drift by, temporarily scrambled until they simply pop, PD blasting away on their reinforced casings the entire time

hilarious module

watch out for the eight-torp stealth asp, though

it will fucking ahab you

>>166652578
It's a lot of fun for 30 bucks. Hating it yet still playing and posting what 2/4 of the thread is. 1/4 is hating on dads, and the last I'd actually discussion and helping noobs.

If you like space and wanna try it out for 30 bucks you'll have a good time, it's not really fleshed out though, which is where the hate comes from. You end up doing the same thing over and over again eventually. And the $30 expansion adds more of the same.

Personally I enjoy the game when I'm looking to just chill, it's not an action/adventure game, it's relaxing.

>inb4 you're only happy cause it's cheap
True, I'd be mad if I paid 60.

File: cute yes kawaii.gif (1MB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 640x360px

>>166657585
I have a friend who has a 650m/s viper with torps and pack hounds, we're gonna practice

I plan to build a similar thing but on a DBS, which I could stealth with and I have midnight paint on it

File: 20161107185036_1.jpg (652KB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

652KB, 2560x1440px

>>166658331
DBS/E is a good platform for silent sunning stealthery as the hulls run so fucking cold to begin with.

my courier does 820m/s with cascade mines, an imperial hammer or plasma accelerator, and then lighteight drag packhounds or a penetrator FSD rocket. eager to slip into a larger cmdr-on-cmdr engagement and just fucking blitz by bombing everything as it was made to do. still not certain as to the efficacy of its tiny ~360MJ shield that could allow for the hitting and running but I've got some modules to try putting together a rather substantial hull tank that won't weight it down too much if ever necessary. torps come off to me as a tremendous hardpoint investment for something that can readily be defeated while you get like eighty buster mines for the slot

:3

File: Screenshot_0144.jpg (624KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

624KB, 1920x1080px

Five bucks.

>>166660663

Was it worth it?

Two factions at 17 draconis are at civil war and one of them is giving 8-15 missions spawns of massacre missions. you can make upwards of 350-400 mil per stack of missions in an hour and a half of shootan dudes

File: corvettetest.webm (3MB, 600x336px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 600x336px

>>166660994
Looks all right, I guess.

Ten bucks.

File: 20170123195429_1.jpg (461KB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

461KB, 2560x1440px

>>166660663
>when you bought both coriolis bobbleheads

the standard one is very reflective and tends to catch the orange holo-glow as it rotates in the dark of space and looks really, really neat.

wireframe is capable of catching light in cool ways as well but i'm ultimately not sure which i like more. both indeed rotate around on an improper axis for a coriolis.

the chrome paintjobs are wicked though for sure, i've caught my corvette reflecting barnard's loop in some screenshots and it's just an eerie inky black when in normal space buzzing around


>>166661034
o lawd not again

>>166661034
they still havent patched that?

File: Carrack jump.jpg (288KB, 3000x1554px) Image search: [Google]

288KB, 3000x1554px

>>166656727
Glad to see my proudest purchase, Carrie, still popular.

Go get her on the next sale.

You can expect to see her on sale either when 3.0 comes out and they do an exploration related sale. Or wait till next December, like every year.

>>166660663
>Cutter
my nigga

>gold
nigger

>>166661282
why would they? people are doing the missions as intended.

>>166661520
It's chrome.

>>166661735
The way it's implemented (the same faction asking you to kill several of the same ships multiple times) is causing forumdads to grumble that it's a bug.

File: geiz.png (360KB, 533x450px) Image search: [Google]

360KB, 533x450px

>bannerlord and 3.0 coming out end 2016/early 2017
>hurr durr

everyone is lying, ASSHOLES

>>166661034
Yeah, made 400kk on a vulture today.

>>166641003
Wait, starting OP with a picture from Elite:Dangerous? You can do that?

I... I didn't knew

Apparently the lack of meaningful updates caused plebbit to start having autistic fits of rage about muh controller balance again. It's still incredible how people convince themselves that their $200 plastic dildo is the superior input device because 'muh skill'. Not only that, they somehow believe that accessible mouse controls are detrimental to the appeal of the game and instead of balacing weapon sizes they want CIG to remove gimbals entirely.

>>166651497
I know what you mean, the vastness of space scared the shit out of me when I was a kid and those feelings came back when I started playing this.

File: 20170126203421_1.jpg (489KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

489KB, 1920x1080px

Is black holes pulling you into them literally as soon as you enter the system a thing? That's just what happened to me, was pulled out of supercruise as well, thankfully only 1% damage on the hull.

Picture relevant, my screen 1 second after entering the system.

>>166662775
Did you have your throttle up and just fly into the fucking thing? they can't draw you around in supercruise right now as far as i know.

>>166662958
My throttle was up, yes. But it took less than a second, usually you are put at a decent distance away from the object you jumped to. I guess I was put extremely close since black holes have a tiny radius compared to other stellar objects.

File: 1481924958898.jpg (262KB, 1484x1080px) Image search: [Google]

262KB, 1484x1080px

>>166647349
> Also what stops the attacker of actually targeting the pods? Or are they easily maneuverable and can warp out like in eve? Who knows?

Believe it or not, the idea of Chris Robert is that killing people will be frowned upon.
Like...
Destroy someone's ship (fair) : 1000 bounty on your head
Kill pilot who ejected (unfair) : 10 000 bounty on your head

Silly we know... I don't understand how it got in his head that every single player behind a video game don't instantly turn into a serial&massively-parallel killer that Vanduul would be proud of.

ATV when?

File: 20160821110104_1.jpg (204KB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

204KB, 2560x1440px

>>166663409
you can be dropped in supercruise rather close to objects with large drop-zones such as red dwarves, neutron stars, and black holes. they're intended to be partially hazardous and if you're not cautious you can fly into them real fast a result. doing so with a neutron star can now get you killed pretty promptly if your angle is fubar enough

>>166663826
Ah, that explains it. Thanks.

>>166663628
2 weeks

>>166662775

You don't know real fear until you exit a jump inside a star.

>>166661034
>mfw 17D is 170+ LY away

kill me now.

>>166665132

Just get a fuel scoop and an extra fuel tank, lad. Not too bad. What ship are you in?

File: 20170126141615_1.jpg (228KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

228KB, 1920x1080px

>>166665221
well, right now I'm in the middle of nowhere in a mining/trader type 6. but I'd probably take my Vulture parked at TZ Arietis

>my fucking face when

File: 20170126211637_1.jpg (129KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

129KB, 1920x1080px

>>166665132
>170LY
Anon...

>>166665132
Use an asp/dbe/conda/hauler taxi to get there and then transfer your combat ship. It'll take ~1 hour, though.

File: 1482639720106.jpg (112KB, 784x708px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 784x708px

>>166665626

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=223HFmhtOOY

>>166665626
You can always self destruct, anon.

>>166665686
cant afford the conda. of the other 3, which has the best jump range?

>>166665791
stop shilling your videos here, goon

>>166665876
Asp, but they all are pretty close.

>>166665791
>no video all year

is he feelin ok???

>>166666232
i hear he's making a new video commando o7

>>166650010

That's the difference between a pulsar and a more sedate neutron.

so wait, how do neutron star FSD boosts work? is it only a Horizons thing?

>>166659059
>bombing courier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OhOKDfKhNc

mixed feelings.

File: 20170126213622_1.jpg (263KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

263KB, 1920x1080px

Well, this is an interesting system. That star is fucked. Planets do orbit around in the game, right? What will happen here because that black hole's orbit goes through the yellow star.

>>166666981
I thought all neutron stars in Elite was pulsars.

>>166664737
Thoo-FUEL SCOOPING

File: 20170126213431_1.jpg (306KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

306KB, 1920x1080px

>>166667776
It is hard to see the black hole in that picture, but it is there.

>>166666666

Can I repurpose my t6 for exploration?

File: 1484594180277.jpg (195KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

195KB, 1920x1080px

>>166668665
yo what

How can you tell if your Kill Warrant Scanner worked and you'll get the extra bounties?
Discovery Scanners have that Inception boom sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMD-t1OjGys

File: galactic face.png (686KB, 618x705px) Image search: [Google]

686KB, 618x705px

>>166668985

>>166669052
it should say "completed" on the HUD right under the progress bar that fills up as you scan your target

>>166669052
it says "completed" on the KWS

>>166669297
>2.6.2
"and after that, all the subsequent patches"

LMAO ded. He avoids saying 3.0. DS was right (again).

>>166669297
ayooooooo hol up CMDR

>can only pin one blueprint

but why? id pull up a website with the blueprints and alt tab anyways, so why not be able to view multiple?

>>166670001
"what we're aiming to do in the fairly near term"
>giving artists the tools they need to create customizable missions (3.0)

They haven't even started on it, it seems.

>>166669608
>>166669741
Fuck that's what I thought, thanks. I guess my last 3 kills were just really unwanted guys kek.

>ATV is literally an hour of Tony Z talking about pipe dreams

I used to love listening to Tony Z talk but now I'm just angry as it's nowhere near anything like that and he's constantly saying "when 3.0 rolls out it will all begin!". So where the fuck IS 3.0?

I'm bitter and mad.

>>166667776
>through the star

It won't. The star is orbiting the BH at the same time.

>all pulsars

They all have polar jets but that doesn't necessarily make them pulsars

File: You know...png (989KB, 675x730px) Image search: [Google]

989KB, 675x730px

>>166669297
Tony Z is an alright guy, but hearing him talk about their AI every couple of months and basically always saying the same thing is somewhat concerning.

>>166670628
>>166671962
Based on the last few Tony Z videos, the S42 delay and the fact that they're still working on basic NPC shit like sitting down at a table I get the impression that their AI is fucked beyond belief and they can't get it to run the way they want it to.

File: 20160731095135_1.jpg (111KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

111KB, 1920x1080px

>>166665626
Where you exploring right now, anon?

File: 20160930131151_1.jpg (660KB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

660KB, 2560x1440px

>>166667415
you're your own worst enemy in such a ship and collisions have to be avoided at all cost, you'll indeed just ram and die if you're not careful and even glance. had a few strafes at a gunship once when i had the chance in a random hazres and he did indeed sure enough clip me eventually, the build wasn't very complete back then though.

this said i never intended to be trying to go and shitbomb people running solo in such a ship, more aimed at fangdangling around in engagements where i'm not necessarily welcome while being so fast that I can't be driven off or really dealt with in a fashion that wouldn't pull someone away from a perhaps more important role than dealing with the interceptor looming around waiting to smack people's shields or condemn someone to death with an FSD disruptor while plinking away in between with a super-penetrating hammer or phasing accelerator. i've got enough leeway with the build that it could pack in a rather heavy long range gun without much speed loss on the right-side offensive mount for more versatility in engagement range.

i might add that kite-combat laden it can accommodate a 3A FSD that'll push it to 36ly in a pinch using just about the full volume of the reduced-size tank per jump, meaning that while fuck can it get around, I need to be aiming between KGBFOAM systems in order to make it viable as every jump needs to be scooped if i want to go that far. in terms of a generally fun craft that can be used for errands, mild combat, and getting around, little comes close. being potentially such a gadfly in any encounter just makes it all the better.

File: 1479517978856.png (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1920x1080px

>>166669297
> Full NPC Crew for Capital Ship comfirmed
powertripping org leader on suicide watch

>>166672408
Currently making my way back from SagA*. I'm done for today.

>>166491776
>>166597410

File: 20170126224921_1.jpg (225KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

225KB, 1920x1080px

>>166672408
>>166673426
Forgot the screenshot of my current location.

So, can I get from ranger to elite in a single trip to the core with tourists?

Why do limpets drones randomly explode when collecting debris?

>>166673824
If you have any material selected when you launch it, it will only collect that specific material. Make sure to unselect before you launch them.

>>166673250
What time?

File: ready.gif (539KB, 500x358px) Image search: [Google]

539KB, 500x358px

So it seems like 3.0 closer to christmas?
I'm pretty sure they're going to give us 2.6.3, 2.6.4, 2.6.5 +++++++ every other month with minor bug fixes to buy time for the 3.0 team to fix the AI.

File: epic meme.jpg (149KB, 833x615px) Image search: [Google]

149KB, 833x615px

>>166674090
Only 1 year delay!
On top of the 2 year delay, of course.
Plus the 3 month delay of 2.6.

But at least we get a flight balance (spending 5 minutes tweaking an xml file) and some bug fixes.

>>166661034
That sounds pretty cool. I've just bought ED last week, how exactly do I take advantage of this?

>>166673824
>>166673968
They also time out, how long depends on your conrtoller.

>>166673824
They're retarded and will crash into wreckage and asteroids

>>166673970
It's around this, frankly you can just watch the entirety of their Q&A it's interesting
https://youtu.be/sMD-t1OjGys?t=1677

>>166675059
This seems to be the case

>>166674921
Do you have a heavily armed combat ship? Because it involves going into conflict zones and killing AIs in other heavily armed combat ships.

Is there a faster way to Navy rank in the Fed? Trying to get the Sol permit but each mission only give be a few percent.
I figure this is the norm, but maybe there are mission the have a better percentage boost?

>>166675762
I have a Python but I can only afford or power multi cannons and pulse lasers at the moment.

>>166675280
No confirmation of full NPC capitals there.

The question was never "will capitals have tons of NPCs?" the Bengal is listed as needing hundreds of crew, 100% player crew will likely be impossible (and boring if it was).
The question discussed here was "will taking a capital ship out as the only player on it be viable?"
Not that they couldn't do that. I just don't think they will for gameplay reasons.

>>166674921
>Some of the factions there are in civil war
>Stack those massacre missions by swapping through Open/Solo
>Hop into one of the conflict zones and kill shit
>Get to Allied status for million+ payouts
You used to be able to kill skimmers with dumbfires on the cheap at Faraday Keep but Fdev hates fun and killed it.

>>166675967
If you're shields are good enough and you know how to fly, you should be good. Just retreat if shit gets hairy.

>>166675967
Just be aware your opponents will apply plasma accelerators and railguns liberally, and they will all have shield boosters and military bulkheads.

File: 0531_-_1lnY9Ec.gif (535KB, 640x636px) Image search: [Google]

535KB, 640x636px

>>166669297
>buy AI modules to plug in to ship consoles
>no need for NPC crew
How BTFO do you think those shitposters are right now? The ones who tell you to kill yourself if you think you should be able to hire as many as you want for your capital ship?

I think they're probably typing refund emails right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE

game never

>>166661034

I'm doing alien ruins grinding right now, but this sounds way more lucrative. Exactly how good does my ship need to be to pull this off? I'm in a Viper IV right now with more than enough in the bank to outfit it with whatever I'd need. (Working towards corvette)

I started yesterday.

Viper mk3 here, Really like this ship. Whats to add to my garage next? I need something more than just a dedicated bounty hunter/hit an run in conflict zone boat.

>>166677356
Why? Solo capitals being viable just means the meta shifts to solo capitals. That is if anything in that video had confirmed that.
Just don't expect to see many player fighters and bombers around if that happens.

>>166678308
Enhanced performance thrusters for your viper.

>>166678318
>the meta shifts to solo capitals
LOL no it doesn't. Players will be more useful than NPCs. Unless you have to pay over the top prices to hire 99% accuracy aimbots and literally "pay2win" with their cash shop, players will always be better.

I'd take 10 players in to a serious battle before I'd take 10 NPCs.

>>166679160
10 players all in their own solo capitals, yes

>>166679160
>I'd take 10 players in to a serious battle before I'd take 10 NPCs.

t. player who hasn't played overwatch or dota with other people

>>166679160
But you just said it's solo viable?

So it will be like Elite.

>>166669297
>Another balance pass coming.
What are the odds that we get Cruise mode back?

>Outposts look like they are from NMS.
Was that supposed to be impressive or just informative?

>Solo cap ships confirmed.
This is good news for pirates. The current AI is shit tier, barely. If the NPCs you can hire are as capable as the enemies in the game are now, a solo player should not be a threat.

>Multiple concurrent reputations.
Dapper gentleman pirate that heals you up and treats you to tea after jacking you for your ship confirmed?

>NPCs have memory of your actions and will judge you based on them.
Can you force AI to work for you and then be cruel to them in order to make them hate you and hate life as much as possible? I got a bit of a chub typing that.

>>166679570
>What are the odds that we get Cruise mode back?

We've got cruise mode in a less broken state thoiugh

File: 1484097075735.jpg (250KB, 869x943px) Image search: [Google]

250KB, 869x943px

There goes any hope of S42 or 3.0 releasing anytime before Q4 this year

>>166679646
Not really arguing for or against cruise. Another way of saying it:

>What are the chances CIG will undo a bunch of work they took a lot of time to do in the first place?

>>166679530
Unless you define an argument I can't respond properly.

Are you saying viable = able to beat people using NPCs? Or are you saying viable = meta imbalanced and overpowered? Or are you saying viable = a player is able to hire NPCs in a capital ship? Because yes, they are viable, you just saw them say so in AtV. You can hire NPCs or even AI modules to take over roles on your ship. Get over it.

>>166679464
Terrible nu-gamers who play flavor of the month shooters aren't a good representation of players who work together in online PC games.

>>166679284
>has a problem with fleets in star citizen
Do you have a problem with 10 hornets killing a solo player in their hornet? Because there were more of them, etc.

Too bad that CIG disagrees with you. Tony and Chris are much better at game design than you, and I've been vindicated for trying to educate you how hiring solo NPCs isn't a problem.

Just some friendly advice, the problem you have with this issue comes from your envy of others.

>entitled nu-gamer

>>166679849
Why would they

File: CuXY5VmWIAA9ny4.jpg (74KB, 750x537px) Image search: [Google]

74KB, 750x537px

>literally no thread for 6 hours
>current thread devolved into "muh solo npc fleet" "muh wifes son" "I'm going to earn a javelin inside 1 week of casual gameplay"

>>166679907
>Do you have a problem with 10 hornets killing a solo player in their hornet? Because there were more of them, etc.

No, I'd have a problem with solo captials allowing 5v5 fights to be capital warfare that rejects any player that wants to fly a fighter. Cool your autism.

>>166679907
>trying to educate you how hiring solo NPCs isn't a problem.
See
>>166676074

And he isn't envious of your ship dude, he just doesn't want the game to revolve around soloing the biggest ships.
The Bengal being the only thing people get on one ship for would suck.

>>166680062
Star Citizen turning into Starsector is the spiciest topic this general gets, goons wish they were this abrasive

>>166657390
completely off top posts and i'm reporting but you can purchase all manner of racks, shelves, and storage furniture at places like bed bath and beyond, department stores, home depot any day of the week anon

>>166679923
Why are they making more balance passes? What has changed since 2.6 launched that make another change to the flight necessary? The first wave after Evocati got version H, and what was the release candidate version, R?

Literally dozens of balance passes already, they can't slow the ships down any more without it being comical, the only way to go is up.

>>166679907
Enjoy your solo cap ship forever alone guy, because I'm going to enjoy taking it away from you.

>>166680893
>Literally dozens of balance passes already, they can't slow the ships down any more without it being comical, the only way to go is up.

You think the only balance pass on flight is to add cruise back in? a thousand things they could do.

>>166661034

Can someone confirm this is still going on

I don't want to make the trip and find out there's a cease fire or some shit

>>166675967
>>166676074
>>166676107
Had a couple of close calls but I've made 5mil+ in the past hour at least, now the rewards are starting to go up. Is this supposed to be bugged because I entered the conflict, killed one guy and about 5 missions completed?

File: 20170126173919_1.jpg (316KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

316KB, 1920x1080px

>>166681245
it still works. made the trip in a hauler. just made ~10M credits. and I wasn't even allied with the faction. should make a metric shitload more this next pass

>>166681793
One kill counts for all of them.

>>166677356
I'll try to lay out why I think solo capitals will never be viable based on game design directions I expect them to take.
If the state of the game one year from release is everyone in their very own capital ship duking it out, it would leave all the players who joined in later with pretty much nothing to do besides grinding, because all dynamic events/community shit would be scaled for the average Joe in his SDSD Freudian Nightmare. Discouraging new players is an effective way to kill a game so they will have to gate the amount of capships somehow.

That's why I expect them to gate the number of capital ships in one of two ways:

>Make capships pain in the ass to fly alone.
And you won't be flying it solo unles you're a masochist.
> Make the grind for them really fucking painful.
Which would limit the number of players who can grind for them or buy them for cash, but it would mean that wallet warriors would be willing to pay literal tens of thousands of dollars to fly one. This would very likely cause many autists to make it their literal full time job to scam/take by force the ship of any Han Flyin'Solo they could find for that mad grey market dosh.

tl;dr: Flying capital ships will be either extremely painful for you, or you'll be dryhumped by hordes of profit seeking autists every time you take your ship for a ride.

>>166680893
>Enjoy your solo cap ship forever alone guy, because I'm going to enjoy taking it away from you
Exactly. That's what I've been arguing. Embrace it. How does it feel to realize I was right?

>>166678229
If you get surrounded these guys will wreck your shit pretty quickly. If you're careful and stay with a group of friendlies and stay away from large groups of enemies.

>17 drac is back

Can you hear the constant winding up of friendship drives of /edg/lords going to make their fortunes?

>>166681010
Well, lets break down the common complaints about the current combat. Feel free to add anything you think I miss.

>As soon as you run out of boost you are dead.

It was explained that boost would use more energy than AB, on the whole, because you would have multiple thrusters engaged.
The same stupid people who were jousting in 2.5 are boost-jousting in 2.6. The match ups are decided by boost capacity, not any real skill.
If you spend any amount of time racing, you will know that >70% people can not negotiate a turn in their ship because they have no idea how speed affects their turning circle, hence they fly at full throttle and go screaming past the first turn, off the track, every time.

The solution to combat and racing is to dramatically increase the top speeds of all the ships, at least double what the max speeds are now. Eliminate AB, and make the throttle one sweep from zero thrust to top speed. This will force people to slow down in order to turn, and make using the throttle an integral control, like it should be. Another benefit is that precision mode is now a critical necessity instead of an option.

It's just numbers on a screen. You can't prove, in game, how fast you are going as an absolute number, beyond a certain speed. Time over distance is irrelevant here, they could make the display say anything at all and we would not know any better.

>>166681978
wew holy shit

I don't see fighters mentioned in that image though commando

>>166682093
>"solo capitals will be viable"
>"well I'm going to steal it"
>"actually they won't be viable so I'm right"

wtf

Do you want Elite or not?

>>166683010
They don't understand that TEST in their 50,000 fleet of Auroras against a single person in an aurora is fair, exactly like 5 people in 5 Javelins against a single aurora is fair.

The issue is their envy, not fleet dynamics.

>encounter 50,000 auroras
>run away because you can't win

>encounter 5 Javelins run by 5 players in the same place
>go on the forums and cry about it because it's not fair how you can't take them on and win

>>166683201
Define viable, because you don't have an argument.

I should be able to hire crew to fly my Solo javelin around the PU. If better players take it off me because NPCs aren't as good as players, that's fair. It's ideal, to me.

Bad game designers are the ones who want to limit gameplay possibilities and force their shit ideas on to others.

My idea doesn't force anything, it opens up gameplay and gives people options. Shouting down NPC crews is taking away gameplay.

>>166681812
>the the order

>>166682093
No idea who you are. I never argued against anyone having anything in any game. I'm not a scrub. If you find an exploit, I'm going to copy you, do it better than you, and see if I can't break it open more. I'm Machiavellian as fuck, please give me an opening to ruin you.

I'll never complain about someone getting ahead or finding a loophole or gaining an edge, usually because I'm too busy trying to get those things for myself. If you think I want things to be fair for anyone, in any way, you got the wrong anon, friendo.

>>166683217
Stop saying envy, that is not the reason.

>>166683498
So why exactly do you want to fly your Javelin solo? Would you want to fly a Bengal solo?

Multicrew was a mistake.

>>166683736
>So why exactly do you want to fly your Javelin solo?
Because it sounds fun. It opens up more gameplay options. For example instead of spamming chat for an hour to find a group of people willing to take orders from you on spectrum and sit at pointless consoles tweaking little displays, you can ask those people to fly escort fighters instead, or repair things or be boarding parties. It also accommodates roleplay and coordinated fleet battles.

Don't you think it's ironic that there are several boarding ships in the game, and hardly anyone will be able to dedicate their play style to be a drop trooper if these whiners had their own way? They'd be stuck at consoles all the time, it's boring. I'm pleasantly surprised to hear about AI modules, I think that will be great. More expensive than NPCs maybe, but definitely a good investment if you don't want to rely too much on others.

>Would you want to fly a Bengal solo?
Not really, unless it was just a casual play session while my org mates landed their ships on my deck while I fly it around. Unless it had a bunch of firepower and could be fun in fleet battles.

>>166683715
expecting competence from FDev

>>166684261
>For example instead of spamming chat for an hour to find a group of people willing to take orders from you on spectrum and sit at pointless consoles tweaking little displays

Oh I always wanted that to be the case. No one wants to sit in engine room.

As always we're all just going to have to disagree with each other and wait until any of these mechanics exist.

>>166683724
I like your whole post. You basically embrace the freedom of what I'm arguing for. I'm in favor of stealing whale ships. I want them to have NPC crews. I want to steal them and teabag their corpse while reading their PMs. I want everyone to have options. I've played too many shit games since 2010 to tolerate garbage and limited design.

Holy shit how long do these civil wars last? I'm already getting 5million cr missions now I'm at friendly rep and 8million+ are starting to show up for allied. I had no idea you could make this much.

File: vindicated dad.jpg (104KB, 600x690px) Image search: [Google]

104KB, 600x690px

>>166684967
That's the whole point of this game isn't it? The gloves are off, sort of. The best spess man wins.

>>166684986

I'm boosting there now. How hard are the fights?

>>166684986
It varies. Could be days. Could be weeks.

>>166661136
>>166661282
>>166661998
The big thing recently was that skimmers counted for the Massacre missions, and you could just go pop those all day with no resistance and make 200m/hr. There was a settlement controlled by the target faction that spawned skimmers and had no base defenses except a random npc ship.

They did patch that, to where skimmers don't count for regular massacre missions anymore. It's still grindable for massacre missions by going to the CZ, but no more special than any other system handing out massacre missions with CZs atm.

There are still massacre skimmer missions but those are a separate thing entirely and want you to attack a specific settlement. The thing with 17D was that you got a regular massacre mission to destroy a faction's ships, but skimmers counted towards those ships.

File: 1485477156148.jpg (126KB, 600x690px) Image search: [Google]

126KB, 600x690px

>>166686065
Your comic was almost good, so I fixed it for you.

So what makes 17 Draconis special? Why can't this be done in any system that has a civil war?

>>166686558
But he didn't confirm you'll be able to fly your Javelin solo.

File: 1484538363101.jpg (9KB, 256x223px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 256x223px

>>166686558
>Has fun getting teabagged.
I am not judging you at all, just observing.

>>166686713
>he can't read

>>166686710
Logical extension of their statement regarding hiring as many crew as necessary.

NPC + AI modules will probably be all you need, while you sit in the pilot seat. A 'commander' or navigator might be necessary but people who want to play solo would just complain and get their own way.

>>166686220
I had to be careful at first but it's not too bad now I've upgraded my shields and hull. I've been grinding less than 2 hours and I'm just about to go back out with over 50 million worth of missions open at friendly rep. If you have any spare money and a donate mission comes up take it to advance more quickly you'll have no trouble making it back.

>>166686594
Missions are in-system and skimmers used to count for massacre missions and there's a convenient base to bomb.

Wait wasn't needing to group up one of those things stopping SC being grossly p2w?
Or stopping the game having unending vertical progression like Elite does?

>>166687431
Ignore the cap ship debate in here its a settled issue and the people who think they will be able to solo a cap are delusional and in denial.

>>166687560
>settled issue
True. They will be soloable.

>>166687653
you will be able to start the ship and move it around solo. You will be able to hire a small (3 to 5 tops) complement of NPCs to man gunnery or engineering stations.

you will have no combat effectiveness at all in ships larger than like a starfarer.

Something like a polaris will be both defenseless and in offensively ineffective with a single human on board.

>>166687849
>you will be able to start the ship and move it around solo
So... flyable solo? That's what I said.

why are you faggots all obsessed with capital ships being viable solo?
only niggers think that its a good idea to fly it solo
only niggers think capital ships will become meta
only niggers think capital ships are worth for a single individual
what do you want to do with a solo cap ship?
fight 1v100 ?
fight a whole org?
do an ICC mission with a 155 meter long ship?
it would take you 30 minutes to get out your pilot seat and move to an exit

>>166688352
Because he bought one.
And can't socialize.

>>166688352
>what would you want to <explore X mechanic for?
>to <insert lots of ideas for fun and emergent gameplay here>?
>haha, you sound stupid, nigger

>>166688352
really you'd have to be insane to want to be in one of those things alone, things the size of the starfarer and caterpillar are already fucking spooky when you're alone and paranoid, even in a constellation or freelancer it's easy for stowaways to hide and get the drop on you. after a couple times getting shot in the back of the head and waiting a week to get their ship back they'll leave it in the hangar unless they have crew.

File: l7zBIMK.png (192KB, 289x289px) Image search: [Google]

192KB, 289x289px

>>166688890
>one player swatting 100 lesser poorfag plebs
>fun and emergent gameplay

>>166689126
Stop posting shit-tier pictures.

You don't really think 100 players can't take out a solo Idris, do you?

>>166688352
They want to
1) wave their dicks around.
2) win pvp by being a giant ship with impenetrable shields and massive guns.
3) be autistic as fuck and play the cap ship solo without have to be a tolerable human capable of maintaining cooperative relationships with other humans
4) be a shithead without consequence because they're in a cap ship and are beyond the retaliatory power of the average individual.
5) exercise the power of a group without being part of a group.
6) win contests by paying currency.

It really does boil down to autism. Leetists want to be the best rated fighter jock, autists want to feel like leetists by engaging in unfair fights. People who want solo caps are the same people who gank lowbies in WoW. They want to pretend they're good at the game in general and pvp in particular without actually being good. They don;t want parity of power between players, they want a massive advantage so that they can feel tough while actually being completely safe from harm.

And I'm saying this as a dude that owns a polaris, Caps should and will require multiple actual humans to operate beyond simple mobility. Large multicrews will be the same. If you want to be an autistic loner with no friends because you are so personally intolerable that you literally cannot cooperate with another person then you will be stuck in ships about the size of a constellation or smaller. Meaning ships that a solo leetist in a Superhornet will still be able to shit on.

>>166689307
I dont think 100 players can be in one area.

>multicrew ships in ED and SC
Kinda new, what are the other players supposed to do exactly?
In SWG multicrew ships (POB) you could have a co-pilot manage the droid commands, but those were only a few and it could get boring. At some point it was changed so turret fellows could also activate them so you didn't really need a co-pilot.

File: Mrh7vrK.jpg (154KB, 590x512px) Image search: [Google]

154KB, 590x512px

>>166689307
Doesn't matter specifically how many it takes cunt, you're still pushing the power of individual players to absurd differences.

>>166689379
>exercise the power of a group without being part of a group.
This, this is the entire point of getting in a capital ship.
You work together to become more powerful than a handful of fighters would be.
You don't get to do that alone, that's the equivalent of multiboxing.

File: 1427165913189.gif (4MB, 406x339px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 406x339px

>mfw just got baron

h-how is the grind to baron compared to the grind to duke

>go to 17 drac conflict zone
>join faction against the order
>check transactions
>none of my kills are counting for the missions

why

File: 1443901100396.jpg (290KB, 600x904px) Image search: [Google]

290KB, 600x904px

>tfw no 2.7
>have to wait until 3.0 before PU gets a supposed network fix to be able to play this game

>>166690843
I know right, I can't fly your Cutlass Red or anything

>>166690538
This happened to me the first time I tried Massacre missions and I never found out why. I just abandoned the mission.

anyone else getting this weird black screen bug in ED? its almost like I'm DCing from the server, but whatever I'm doing ATM still counts.

>>166688890
breaking something complex down to variables is always a good idea for people to understand the idea behind it.
you completely failed though, nigger.
>>166688462
I fucking hate autists man
>>166689059
You're 100% right.
Do these guys even know how fucking big the cap ships will be?
You could be boarded my 5 teams (who dont know they're boarding the same ship at the same time) and no one would know what the fuck is happening.
>>166689126
>>166689307
God fucking bless CR told us that flying a cap ship isnt automatically an instant win
>>166689379
well summarized my fellow anon
>>166689469
nigger goon
>>166690843
2.6.1 should fix the FPS a bit

File: 1402499032509.gif (2MB, 158x246px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 158x246px

>>166687143

>arrive
>plan to buy modules at Paradiso because I slimmed down for faster better jumps
>it's all F and G garbage
>nearest system with good modules is 200ly away

FUCK

>low intensity conflict
>everyone is packing railguns and plasma accelerators

New to this game

What the fuck is the 'meta' for ED

I was told "Energy on your biggest, kinetics below that". Also are gimbal and turrets better than fixed? Or is the damage offset not worth the accuracy trade (assuming I can aim worth a damn)

>be a whale
>decide it's time to take the Idris-M out because you lost your Javvy flying solo, and it will be a week before the next one is ready.
>need to be careful with this one, only 2 more flyable cap ships other than this one. Might have to hang out at ArcCorp instead.
>been buying UEC at the cap every day for three weeks straight, now it's time for payback.
>buy the best, top tier NPCs for each position. No expense is spared. Almost 40 crew members are replaced with the best AI money can buy.
>unlimitedpowah.webm
>got to ease into this kind of power and feel it out. No rush, I bought the permanent crew. They are here to stay.
>what would Star Fleet do?
>maiden voyage of the Kouhai Hikikomori will be to do some I.C.C. missions to honeymoon the crew.
>tfw you got a sweet name for your ship but no one sees it because no one does these starter missions anymore since real jobs are available.
>oh well, better spend some time cultivating my relationships with the crew, not only to keep them happy, but because I'm a good cap'n.
>are they ever going to fix that airlock sound bug?
>Ain't Nobody Got Time For That (Original + AutoTune)
>feels like I've worn a groove in space going back and forth to the I.C.C. probe, but Tess thinks that the ship and I are ready for bigger things, and also she doesn't have any more missions.
>time to go destroy some pleb scum miners. They won't stand a chance. This will be like Mike Tyson fighting moot.
>but first, what is with that fucking airlock? They said the premium NPCs were not meant for the maintenance NPC positions, I wonder if their AI is bugged and triggering the door or something?
>tfw you're the cap'n, but you can't order someone to go investigate weird noises, so you have to go look yourself.
>go through 12 doors and down 7 decks to reach the cargo area. I don't hear the airlock sound anymore. I'm going to be pissed if it was nothing.
>unlock main cargo door and start opening sequence.
>littlegirlscream.flac
cont.

File: 20161217135049_1.jpg (1MB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2560x1440px

>>166695886
no it's more nuanced than that

there's four classes of damage and they go kinetic thermal explosive and absolute which is only dealt in 60% part by plasma accelerators. absolute deals flat damage beneath all resistances except raw SYS pips to my knowledge

kinetic and explosive shred hull once you worm your way beneath an opponent's shields, they can be countered in part with expensive reactive armor plating for your ship but reduces your capacity for thermal resistance. typical hull is irresistive to these two classes of damage.

thermal is most effective against shields as they are naturally irresistive to this damage type, and isn't quite as good on hull. can be super-countered with mirrored plating but that too can be expensive and you take a kin/exp hit.

fixed weapons deal the outright most damage but require skill on the player's part to effectively level-with-target and use. they are not dumb and have a small arc of gimbal themselves right where the pips sit so you're hardly being shafted. more maneuverable ships able to swing on a target typically get the most mileage

gimbals sit in the middle of damage, work around a frontal, larger arc and introduce somewhat-inherent accuracy problems as the computer struggles to hover the gun over where it needs to fire. they do less DPS but can grant you potentially enormous opportunity cost as you will be able to fire at targets off-axis with your ship with ease, increasing overall enemy fire exposure. sensor grade now contributes in how effective these are in their transverse ability.

turrets can swing the hell around 360 degrees on their surface, limited only by the contours of the ship. they deal the least overall dps, cost the most per module, and offer the greatest potential opportunity cost to be gained with slower ships incapable of turning as quickly. reasonably versatile but limited for very serious application in my eyes for most snakes.

chaff counters gimbals and turrets, fixed guns dgaf

>>166697850
>door finishes opening to reveal 15 griefers who try to call themselves pirates who have gathered in the cargo area.
>they thank me for unlocking the door and tell me they are taking the ship and I can leave in an Aurora if I want. Like fucking hell.
>it's time to throw down knee grow.
>stupid faggots are gonna learn. I got cheat engine now. They aren't stopping it in SM, I can slay these normie assholes with ease and be on my way.
>tfw you cheat and still get pwned, not because you don't practice at all, but because your waifu was folded weird and you weren't comfy enough to concentrate.
>i'm totally reporting these assholes this time, this has to stop.
>why the fuck do CIG nazi mods keep telling me that boarding parties are part of the game? How am I supposed to report all these cheaters if I keep getting banned from Spectrum?
>tfw the new captain of your ten benji ship taunts you in chat by offering you a crew spot.
>he is obviously multi boxing. All these "other players" keep telling me the guy is really nice and he might give me my ship back if I come play with him and his friends.
>he must think I'm the stupidest person on the planet.
>that's some stupid bait if I've ever heard it.
>i'm way smarter than they realize. They don't know how powerful I really am.
>agree to be part of griefer's crew. I'm going to double cross the fuck out of this guy.
>stupid idiot doesn't realize this is still my ship. All I have to do is sit in the pilot's chair and initiate the self destruct. Aloha snackbar motherfucker!
>captain ruins games offers for me to sit in the captain's chair after he defiled it by sitting in it. Got to keep up appearances. Politely decline and offer my services as pilot.
>retard thanks me and say I can have whatever spot I want.
>rush the pilot's seat and kick out the dumb fuck NPC. Immediately hit self destruct. Take out captain no one believes you and 20 other people that were having fun at my expense.
>worth
cont.

File: 1484234094585.gif (2MB, 695x392px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 695x392px

>>166697850
Imagine if they caved into the whales who cried about losing ships during the actual launch and made the respawn timers much, much shorter.

>>166697982
>loling so hard it literally hurts, got to take a break. What happens online does affect you in real life, huh.
> these losers are probably plebbitors, guess I'll go lurk and drink some griefer tears when they complain about getting owned by a true space cap'n.
>there are several posts mentioning a fun play session on an Idris, that can't be it. Surely those retards are raging at how I got even with them.
>check one of the posts to see if maybe they mention my Idris and point me the right way.
>tfw you're in bizarro world because surely these people understand I had every right to blow up my own ship, and I am certainly not a griefer.
>reply to the post and out myself as the true cap'n of the Kouhai Hikikomori and explain that I owned the ship and I didn't like that griefers had taken my ship and explained that under intergalactic law, I had every right to scuttle my ship since it was taken illegally.
>tfw you're banned from Spectrum and banned and muted from every SC sub, but you own the Completionist and are actually untouchable.
When is CIG going to fix the airlock doors so they lock when I sit in the cap'n's chair? Should be a no brainer.

>>166697850
>>166697982
>>166698093

Fuck off retard we're finished with this topic

File: Praise Roberts.webm (2MB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1280x720px

>>166698152
Roberts bless you, anon.

Triggering faggots like you is why I write.

Hard as a diamond right now.

File: 1405623242890.jpg (45KB, 429x491px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 429x491px

>>166698364
>writing all that for one line

>>166698364
enjoyed reading it

File: 20170126203315_1.jpg (774KB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

774KB, 2560x1440px

>when u functionally god in such a fast ship with 6971 rebuys for it

File: 1484621214173.jpg (39KB, 900x900px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 900x900px

>>166699985
Could you go over that one more time for me? I'm a little slow on the uptake.

whats the fastest thing I can get to elite for founders world access

>>166695886
Efficient beams and fixed cannons are where it's at nigga.

>>166694371
not using passenger missions to get elite in exploration and then use founders world to make ships

>>166700703
Trading, I think, is the fastest. Just try not kill yourself.

>>166702178
>have to make 1 billion space shekels to get elite in trading

killing myself

>>166702178
no you only have to earn 150 mil and passenger missions give out 1-20 mil depending if your lucky or not also its the sightseeing ones that i mean

>>166694371
>tiny population military economy
>buy modules

Dun goof'd.

>>166703045
Passenger missions count toward explorer rank?

>>166703164
the sightseeing ones

>>166695886

Why would you put your kinetics on your smaller hardpoints?

Kinetics are used against the hull, and hull is where armor toughness comes into play, causing smaller weapons to do reduced damage to bigger hulls.

>>166703164
its fucking broken because i was able 20% in the last rank before elite per day

I want a flying tank. A brick with lots of guns strapped onto it.

Which ship in Elite is best for this?

File: beyond.png (562KB, 719x587px) Image search: [Google]

562KB, 719x587px

>>166704078
when chona is on lock down

>>166704252
>>166704078
fuck my bad but i would look at the corvette

>>166704351
Oh God that's going to take a fuckbillion years to get. It doesn't have to be the best at it, just something that can tank a lot of hits and strap on a bunch of firepower

>>166704725
well alot of the fedreal ships are pretty tanky there was one instance not to long ago where the tactic used for the drop ship was to ram your face into there face

>>166704078

Federal Gunship.

>>166704725
>>166705021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ1oBDQHhfM

If I made my way out to 17 Draconis as a total newbie, could I be carried by friends, or do I have to actually shoot at them and contribute

>>166705823
you have to shoot at them but you don't have to 'contribute'

if you land one shot on them and they explode it counts iirc

>>166705071
Oh man this looks fun as hell. Time to grind some Fed rank.

File: 1370300171281.jpg (17KB, 500x352px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 500x352px

>>166705936

Think it's worth heading out there in open to see if I can piggyback from outside of wing

This is the second time in less than an hour of running 17D and my game blanks out with a black screen to where I have to end the process. What the fuck is this about?

>>166706240

>doing anything like this in open

You're going to get shitstomped. The Fed faction gives out missions, but the pirate faction does as well. There's going to be a lot of people there probably in fully engineered Corvettes and Annies shooting each other with railguns and you're going to get caught in the crossfire.

Just go solo and hope to shit that enemies in CZs are leveled so you don't run into every fucking ship in there having infinite ammo railguns like I have been.

File: 1362329360641.jpg (7KB, 109x127px) Image search: [Google]

7KB, 109x127px

>Fly out to the low conflict zone
>Choose New 17 faction
>EVERY NPC GOES RED, INCLUDING NEW 17
>Dodging Plasma and rail constantly

WHAT DID I DO WRONG

>>166707819

>people complain NPCs are braindead, which they were
>FD fixes this by giving tham rails that ignore heat, often with engie mods

Welcome to the VISION.

When you first drop into the CZ, reverse or turn around and get some distance. Don't choose your faction right away and fly into the center. Once you can see the furball and you let everyone pick their targets, go ahead and choose your faction and fly into the fray. Find a Corvette or Anaconda and fly with it, it is now your battle buddy. Fight whatever it fights. If shit gets too hot and you can't shake off enemies (especially if they're spamming you with plasma, and double especially if you're in a large ship), jump out and wait for your shields to recharge, then jump back in and repeat. Return to the station to repair if you have to. Remember that reloading your shield cell banks is much cheaper than having to foot a repair bill.

>>166707801

Went in solo but my weapons are F, for fucking awful.

What's the nearest half decent place to upgrade?

File: 20170126204746_1.jpg (202KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

202KB, 1920x1080px

this was a good decision

It does it to everyone its a known issue.

>>166710216
meant to link to
>>166707616

>>166710216
>>166710436

Yeah and from the research I did, it's been a known issue for over six fucking months.

>>166690248
go to Fehu and do scan missions. I was getting 6% per stack of mission from Marquis to Duke. It was by far the most effective way to grind imp rank. extra cash wasn't that bad.

>>166707801
>The Fed faction gives out missions, but the pirate faction does as well. There's going to be a lot of people there probably in fully engineered Corvettes and Annies shooting each other with railguns and you're going to get caught in the crossfire.

literally nobody sides with the Order. I'm out there now in a Vulture. everyone's just shooting the shit in public chat in between shitstomping the waves of Order ships.

that being said, I wouldn't recommend anything weaker than a Vulture simply because the NPCs are packing some serious heat for it being a low intensity CZ. the fucking suicide bomber railgun eagles are the worst.

>>166710608
>>166710216
its been happening to me too. oddly enough, its usually right as I destroy a ship.

>>166710695

I've got a Viper IV but my weapons feel like pea shooters. Not even noticable damage in solo, let alone open.

>>166710856
yeah, def get at least a vulture or better first. farm RES for a while if you have to.

>>166710856
>>166710953

Don't worry about missing out. 17 Drac goes into civil war every week or so. Not to mention others like Fehu also have pretty good civil war massacre mission payouts. Massacre missions were just fixed and everyone is doing them as intended so just focus on getting a solid A rated combat ship of at least a Python/Vulture/FDL/Xship and maybe some engineer stuff for it.

File: 20170127003722_1.jpg (379KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

379KB, 1920x1080px

goddammit why is it not giving me the 5mil and up ones anymore?

can you only hold so many at a time or something?

>>166711470
It takes more than an hour for me to stack all 15mil+ missions.

>>166711470
Why does your shitty game's GUI have to be in one color always, doesn't that grate on you at all?

>>166711597
what are you talking about? all I did was change the orange to purple.

I like elite dangerous.... but i didnt played it very much...... i bought it since like.... june 2014, when it was still not even finished ... the game was in beta....
i really liked it , and i wish i could play again... but i know its stupid, but the main reason i stopped playing is... my favorites ships i so wanted to pilot,.... the pilot seat was at the right of the cockpit, and like i didnt wanted that... i wanted to pilot at the left like my country... and just for that i stopped playing cuz it were my favs ships and we cant change the pilot seating, so it was bad....


i mean, the adder, and the imperial ships, were the ones i wanted to play the much...


beside this, the game is a big game....


i came to elite dangerous.... because , i dunno if you know them, but the old videogame ' elite 2: frontier' on the pc.... was a true 'iconic game..... really unique and crazy.....


because elite 2 frontier, was like a game from the early 90s.... so , limited in size and graphics..... yet..... the creator made a beautiful game that is so huge... it was a whole galaxy ( 100 billions star systems ), all generated, that you are inside, and go where you want....


so elite dangerous is kinda like a followup game of the franchise, but willing to put that at today's possibilities ( realistic graphics, more and more features, and online play )
anyways.... i guess another big thing that i dont like about elite dangerous, is the fact that its an ' online only' game......

it cant play like the previous titles of the franchise, which is an offline game...

>>166711470
that looks like my old monitor when its VGA connector broke

>>166711597
>>166713985
am I the only one here who likes purple?

fuck, at least it doesn't burn my retinas like the orange.

>>166714459
it's not that it's purple, it's the fact that it's pink-purple

What will be developed first, Star citizen or general artificial intelligence? If artificial intelligence gets developed first, will it able to develop better space sim before star citizen gets released?

Remember in November when cultists said they would probably be getting 3.0 in December? Remember at the end of December when cultists said they would probably be getting 3.0 in or before March?

Taking money from them is like taking candy from a baby without parents who was abandoned on a doorstep. Also the baby has no arms and legs, and its mouth is taped up. And its paralysed, blind, and deaf.

>>166716389
> taking candy from a baby
>Also the baby has no arms and legs, and its mouth is taped up. And its paralysed, blind, and deaf.
How did the baby get the candy in the first place?

>>166716547
Also how does said baby own any candy at all, it can't even hold it

>>166716547
>>166716595
The stranger who left it there also dropped off a bag of assorted candies, obviously.

>>166716793
doesn't make it the babby's candy

>>166716831
I feel as if you mighty be deliberately missing the point.

>>166651497
The thought of space scares the fuck outta me like nothing else, but even if every jump to a new system makes my heart skip a beat I am still awestruck by the beauty of it all (I seriously wish we could choose how close we are to the stars when we jump however)

Is the Diamondback Scout better than a Viper mk III for aggressive dogfighting?

Also, why isnt there a free tutorial or something for people to test the game a little?

File: 1484918962006[1].jpg (45KB, 625x469px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 625x469px

>>166710695
>literally nobody sides with the Order

tfw in conflict zone and weaving in and out of enemy ships and like BLAM BLAM BLAM gank all the mother fuckers god damn i feel like such a bad ass this is the greatest fuckign game ever why couldnt i be born 1000 years later so i coudl do this shit irl ffs

File: 17d.png (278KB, 640x411px) Image search: [Google]

278KB, 640x411px

>>166720830
They're fucked

>>166721226
You'd be one of those 10 trillion peasants.

>>166721309
I had no idea what I was doing and they seemed to have much more massacre missions on offer at the time. It did the trick though I only spent a couple of hours on it but was already getting 6 million credit missions by the time I stopped last night.

>>166711470
>The The Order ships
>The The
Good band

>Chris roberts doesn't have a star citizen tattoo but a number of fucking fans do.
Cool it down boys.

File: Capture.png (21KB, 786x124px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 786x124px

You think this is real boys?

File: 1473312093615.png (14KB, 633x524px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 633x524px

>>166723568
I don't even know anymore

>>166723568
at this point does it matter?

File: 2523535.png (30KB, 258x192px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 258x192px

>>166723568
Probably.

I wish space sims had never made a resurgence so I would never had to acknowledge these people.

File: 785678.jpg (35KB, 624x480px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 624x480px

>>166723723
Any large fan base has these people stop being a baby.

File: 1484987553086.gif (2MB, 480x270px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 480x270px

>>166723943
Why does this one have so many

>>166724828
space sims cater to autists for starters

File: thethe.png (291KB, 695x273px) Image search: [Google]

291KB, 695x273px

Please help the Order.

File: Federal_Corvette.jpg (1MB, 3840x2160px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 3840x2160px

>>166725845
fuck the order, I want my Corvette

>>166699985
What's the Courier even good for?

File: 1465247624875.gif (166KB, 586x360px) Image search: [Google]

166KB, 586x360px

FUCKING BLACK SCREENS REEEEEEEEEE

excited about star citizen

today's the day

>>166727924
prepare to wait four years, anon

File: 5SCrlts.png (2MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1920x1080px

Someone posted these on r/starcitizen as inspiration for first gen planetary play construction. and like god damn thats neat as hell. They cost $43,000 which is more than my two story 3 three bedroom with a full attic and basement house, but Imagine cart a bunch of those and maybe a few larger structures out to some backwater world in the racks of a starfarer to set up an Ad Hoc base.

Oh fuck me >>166728140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTITZ6jrWb8

>>166727924
todays the day for what?

>>166727924
I'm out of the loop. What is significant about today?

>>166720191
I'm going to say no, just because the viper has more internals. Otherwise, they're pretty close.

>>166727521
fast

Does anyone know offhand how many more hours until the "server tick" happens for ED?

File: 17 Draconis.png (94KB, 427x172px) Image search: [Google]

94KB, 427x172px

Thx brabo.

Now, what passenger missions are the best to level up my exploration rank and where do I get them?

why is everyone so hyped about the idris
its the worst designed ship ever
its 240 meters long and can carry 3 gladius
Gladius: 20 m length and 16m beam
F-15: 19,5 m length and 13 m beam
Idris: 240m lenght can carry 3 gladius
USS Hancook, built during WW2, 271 meters, can carry up to 100 fighter jets.

????????

>>166730238
BALANCE you autistic nigger

>>166730238
As an aside, the F-15 is a pretty big fighter, I doubt a ship built during WW2 can carry 100.

>>166730546
there is one carrier which is 332m long which can carry 85 though

File: bJz8bRe.jpg (56KB, 655x695px) Image search: [Google]

56KB, 655x695px

>>166730238
>>166730546
>>166730578
F-15 isn't carrier capable, I'm sure you could get 100 in there if you double stacked them. They are going onto and leaving the ship by crane, so it doesn't matter.

>>166730158
To my knowledge, you have to do sightseeing missions. Then the cash you get from the mission will be counted towards your exploration rank. Just like the money you get from exploring.

I'm currently doing >>166491776 which will net me 60MCr towards Elite. You need 150MCr exploration money for Elite rank if I remember correctly.

Just be careful so >>166605057 doesn't happen.

Where to get them? I got mine from Deciat. But they seem to pop up everywhere from time to time.

>>166730774
nigger doesn't get my point
even if you can stack only 50 on the carrier, thats still close to 20x more planes carried than the shitty idris

File: 1482862985947.jpg (37KB, 562x600px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 562x600px

>>166731552
F-15 can't fly off an Idris either, didn't matter if only had 3 or 50, leaving by crane.

File: Q8qn4c5.jpg (11KB, 241x200px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 241x200px

After I thought about it some more, if you were going to transport F-15s with an Idris, you would probably crate them up, since F-15s aren't meant for carrier duty. In that case I agree with the other anon, only being able to carry 3 crated up F-15s seems a little small.

We should probably make a thing about getting more room for crated up F-15s on the Idris, because this specific circumstance leaves Idris owners at a big disadvantage.

>CIG taking care of the poor Idris owners when?

>>166710132
I did 17D skimmers to get my Anaconda, but I miss my Python. It was so damn versatile. My Anaconda can jump 30LY and tear through Corvettes like a hot knife through butter, but I can't land anywhere but Starports and I turn like a dead whale.

>>166736929
Python was the first ship I fully engineered. Its a beast, a little more jump range and its perfect.

>>166737335
I only bothered with engineering once I got my Anaconda, but I imagine an engineered Python would feel amazing. Like a giant Cobra on speed and steroids.

Offhand question, but my friend is currently in a Vulture and keeps bitching because he gets his shields destroyed in CZs. He's looking for an upgrade but doesn't know what to get. What would be a good step up? I was thinking a Dropship or some heavy farming for a Python.

>>166737937
>he gets his shields destroyed in CZs
My engineered vulture doesn't have this problem.

>>166737937
This video spells it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dQCY76eRVg

for CZs I haven't done them in a serious capacity in anything less than my Python but I could easily see a fedship, FDL, or Vulture to be just fine engineered, especially fedship.

>>166738570
My non-engineered Vulture never had that problem. He really doesn't know when to back off of NPCs in a conflict zone.

I'm thinking he should get a FDS. It's tankier. He'll have to grind some rep first, though.

>>166738869
The problem with CZs is that you can take every tip, be extra careful and still have to deal with NPCs mobbing you as they continue to spawn in just because they aggro you first. The only way to alleviate this that doesn't waste your time fixing it is run the largest and tankiest ships and kill them as they come or play in a wing.

That earth-like in 17 Draconis looks pretty comfy. When will we be able to land on it and kill stuff on it?

>>166740524
In 3303

>>166740524
>Taking the civil war fighting to the planet itself

Jesus, Living in 17D must be absolute hell.

A endless civil war propped up by mercenary and corporate interests

File: 20170127184128_1.jpg (422KB, 1791x1041px) Image search: [Google]

422KB, 1791x1041px

I've seen some Star Trek Online mentioned and discussed a bit here few days ago so I'll just leave a note that there's a free ship today for everyone.

>>166740979

Isn't The Order a crazy cult, too? FD should put some CGs there or explore 17D more.

>>166742287
Or nerf it into oblivion

>>166723708
Yes, retarded people like this need to be told and thoroughly convinced that they're retarded so they never say some dumb shit like that again. And then he'll teach Jimmy "Chris Roberts" Threesacks not to say dumbfuck shit and that tiny sector of humanity will be repaired

>>166742005
what tier is it?

>>166742449

I think FD's solution to 17D is to keep every ship with railguns and never fix the black screen bug.

>>166743190
sadly 5, but there is one for each faction.
there's also a tier 6 science ship to be earned for doing some minor shit from the anniversary event

>>166743295
That's some advanced game balancing.

>>166743421
aw shame, I was tempted to update and log on for that.

>>166743295

It kind of makes sense that the funding of this civil war and general experience of the suvivors is becoming this extreme

>>166744112

I can understand that too to be fair, but the black screen crash has been around for almost half a year and it's still barely even addressed by FD, and it affects more than just 17D. It took FD 3 fucking months to fix Powerplay in a time where it was completely and utterly broken, and it was finally fixed only because of community outcry. How long is it going to take them to fix CZs if the only people that usually complain are "exploiters?"

does anyone else just have missions randomly fail all the time in ED? I go to a mission board and sometimes half the missions I accept fail instantly, even shit like donation missions

>>166744497

I've had it happen to me once, and it was after I quickly turned in like 15 missions, so that may have something to do with it. Anything that involves mission stacking is pretty borked right now.

>>166743985
there's a different free thingie every day this week, they're slowly stepping up the game, started with clothes, then some skill tokens, and today a t5 ship. Who knows what will we get for the last two days, but I guess a T6 would be too much of a treat.