/scg/edg/ Star Space Dangerous Citizen Elite General #124: Ambush

Nothing of value in the other thread, flag for delete

>>166281897
>/scg/ comes to exist directly on Spectrum as it's easy to follow while playing the game
>only a few sad shitposters lost in the abyss try to maintain a general here yet fail due to lack of interest, cut off from the hive mind
>/v/ occasionally comes by to see and thinks they were right all along and the game is dead

yea fuck that niggerop
jesus how incompetent do you have to be

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>>166282328
Stop making shitty OPs. This is all we have man, can't you see that?

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>>166281897
>implying goons won't say they were "merely pretending just to troll derek"

Christ who even say troll anymore? Fucking old people.

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General looks dead. Might as well post my ship getting mindfucked.

>>166282172
>>/v/ occasionally comes by to see and thinks they were right all along and the game is dead

/v/ wasn't even right the first time. The TORtanic wasn't.

That brings the number of times /v/ was right about vidya up to zero

>>166281814
More ships need cozy non-cockpit/bridge glassed in observation decks.

I Would almost(I did and then melted it) buy a caterpillar just for that tractor deck.

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>>166281814
Nuuu there were a few good posts in the deleted thread.
Now gone.

HAVE BEST SHIP INSTEAD.

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It seems like all of the original ships will have to be reworked for Item 2.0. I wonder if they will just adapt the current designs without change or will the Aurora, Mustang, and 300 series all get bigger.

>>166285924
I still don't know what will happen to 300s and Freelancer variants. They don't even show them in 4.0 ship releases. I have a 325A and a Freelancer DUR and I feel like I will be the biggest douche with worst deal for his money in 3.0. If I don't hear something until near to the release of 3.0, I will melt those and buy Cutlass and Gladius.

>>166287007
I'm sure the Freelancer will be awesome later on. It's supposed to be the hardest to scan your cargo, so a good smuggling ship.

As far as the 300 series, who the fuck knows? Cargo pod underneath maybe?

What's the best way to rank up with Tod McQuinn? I need those grade 5 multis

>>166289005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ryCDOZ3Xg

>>166289005
As with all the engineers, just bring the right materials. Crafting three modifications of your current grade will unlock the next grade.

You'll want to bring a lot of materials if you're looking to get experimental upgrades.

anyone want to go fuck up the heretics studying xeno ruins

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>>166291639
i really hope ayy lmaos are enemies

>>166292390
even if there not you could probably still kill them\

>>166292390
thinking about it the traitorous alliance will probably make friends with the enemy so we will have to purge not only the ayys but the alliance

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>All i do is transport biowaste for hours
What am i doing with my life...

>>166292390
considering the original game is in a state of galaxy wide war, yes probably

timeline is probably as follows

frontier -> dangerous -> OG

>>166293454
>>166292942

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Whales are dangerous creatures when provoked.

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>>166293348
poop hauling is still a thing? I thought that got nerfed into the ground

>>166294612
was it a shit way to get money after the nerf

>>166295046
it was a great way to make money, one of the best

>>166295880
it was a pun

>>166297605
>planets will actually have colour
shit is gonna be so jarring compared to the blackness of space. I guess that's a good thing.

Can anyone shed some light on how bounties work in ED? I accidentally hit someone and got a 6000cr bounty that is down for 6 days when in the past it was more like 6 minutes and a tiny fine. So I tried buying a Sidewinder and going back to the system where the bounty is so the authorities could kill me, which they did. So I paid the insurance on the Sidewinder, and not only is the bounty still active, but the 2 million or so credits I had yet to collect in my own bounty kills has vanished. Am I doing something wrong or is this game just a pile of retarded shit?

Is there a way to forget about something that you spent 150$ for a whole year? I want to forget about his until either sq42 or 3.0 gets released.

Looking to upgrade my ship, asked in the failed thread, I'll ask again here.

Been flying an Eagle, but want something bigger, more all around, but still fun to fly and good in a fight. Fuck the Cobra, I got money in the bank.

I was recommended the Asp Explorer and the Vulture. Any other ideas, confirming these, etc...

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>>166297605
I can't wait to play SpaceEngine

>>166299546
AspX can hold his own in combat with a proper fit, but the vulture is just so much better

a bit pricier is the FAS, which is fantastic now that it has a military internal slot. Needs rank tho

>check out Yuri's weapon reward
>an fsd reboot missile
>nice, i can finally kill these cowards in open
>after some reading find out about 35sec immunity after drive reboot
why Elite developers hate pvp so much, you only lose cargo if you die anyway

>>166300262
>>166299546
>>166300262
FUCK I'm dumb

Vulture is great but if you want to go FAST while being an annoying hard to hit tiny piece of shit that can also go silent, you may want a DBS

Viper mkIV might be alright if you want a combat/multipurpose combo but be prepared for medium ship tier agility. great directional thrusters tho

>>166300291
Archon Fury makes good use of 'em.

He's one of the only dudes I watch; he has a loadout with Li Yong Rui's special multis, one regular multi and a rack of yuri's fsd fuckery missiles on a stealth dbs; I've seen him drop some pretty big game in it.

>>166299546
If you can get the rank the imperial courier is a great choice. Strong shields plus 3 medium hardpoints make it a good fighter. It still counts as multipurpose ship so it can be built for other trades if that's what you want.

How do you max out things like jump range? The wiki says the Python can reach up to 30ly But I've just bought the best FSD for this ship and it is well below that. Is this something to do with the engineer stuff I keep hearing about?

>>166302689
A rated FSD, D rated everything else. Makes for a shit ship but it jumps far. Also you can undersize things like the power plant or power distro if you can. makes the ship even shittier, but you get jump range

OR you could go to an engineer that does grade 5 FSD and almost double it with a good grade 5 roll

>>166302689
Yeah a grade 5 fsd will get you a really good jump range. In the mean time you can drop all core modules except FSD down to D grade to increase jump range.

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WE MUST PURGE THE HERETICS STUDYING THE FILTHY XENO TECHNOLOGY

>>166299546
check this out

and also look up sidewinder to andaconda

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/164436-Ship-builds-for-everyone-and-everything!

>>166303157
look at the imperial

I bet you like dicks in your ass

>>166303689
at least i don't have a xeno reproduction organ in mine

>>166303778
>wanting to bolt ayy lmao plasma guns on my ship
>same as wanting dicks i your ass

nice projecting

>>166304008
you're right i just want to go make some forum dads angry

Anyone in Elite Dangerous have that video with the encounter with Thargoids, and getting ganked by a pirate during the cutscene and dying.

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>>166303661
>Combat orca
>shields
>no HRPS
>no MRPs
>no chaff
>DPS weapons instead of burst weapons
>lightweight alloys

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>>166304227
fine by me

>>166304794
still xenos need to be purged

Are there Thargoids yet?

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>>166303157
How uncouth

>>166305214
no if there were i would be on a crusade

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>>166305450

>>166300262
>FAS
Federal something something?

>>166300572
>DBS
Same as above, dunno the acronyms.

>>166301348
Sounds good anon, I'll look in to it too. Thanks.

>>166303661
Thanks for the link. I'll take a look.

>>166305668
>doesn't finish the flip to land on the other platform

>tfw don't play star marine because of aimbots and you'll never be at the top of the leaderboards because of exploiters tryhard orgs and cheaters

>>166305892
rather paranoid of you

I get that there's a few out there but I've never encountered an obvious aimbotter, it doesn't have to color your experience. in fact 99% of players being shit evens the scale with potential botters pretty well. I got 1st in the free for all mode the other night for probably the second time in my life in any game.

>>166305892
>you'll never be at the top of the leaderboards because of tryhard

wew stop right there lad

who else should be at the top?

Aimbotting needs fixing though, I can't be bothered to bump into that shit

>>166304794
we will purge together once the xenos show themselves

>>166305834
federal assault ship, diamondback scout

also that guide has terrible loadouts for combat, see >>166304593
for example

i fear that the xenos will form a alliance with the alliance

>>166281814
>federal assault ship, diamondback scout
Thanks. What are the perks of those?

>also that guide has terrible loadouts for combat, see combat orca
kek while that layout blows that sounds fun. might try that eventually for shits

>>166306409
>who else should be at the top?
People who are better.

i'm starting a purge list for any heretics who admit to studying the ruins

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>>166307426
now you're just waxing philosophical, what are you saying, that effortless skill should beat time and practice? 'tryhard' is a buzzword, if you're trying hard you're more likely to do well, that's just common sense.

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>>166307823
Come at me mon'keigh

>>166307939
>that effortless skill should beat time and practice?
Yes. Time sink and exploiting the stat system should not reward people.

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>>166307426
And how do people get better?
If there's some kind of boosting or whatever going on that's obviously shit, but tryhard is a stupid label.

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>>166308174
>stat system
you've never even played star citizen have you

>>166307029
the DBS is a tiny piece of shit (for whoever is shooting at it) that is probably the best fighter in its class thanks to its great speed, agility, perfect hardpoint placement and superior amount of utility mounts. Kinda shit shields but that's par for the course at that size

the vulture fits in the same category except it has way too much shields and firepower for its size


FAS is basically a DBS, just bigger and better


I'm basing every comparison on the DBS cause that's the one ship I bought once I got out of an Eagle and fell in love with it. Three anacondas and a corvette later and I still compare combat ships to it

>>166303043
>>166303118
Gotcha I already removed all weapons to get a little extra I didn't realise how far you could take it.

>>166294513
He's not wrong

who wants to go purge the heretics at the ruins

>>166310151
what are "the ruins" I'm curious

is there actually explorable alien architecture somewhere in ED? sounds neat, send pics

>finally make time to watch around the verse
>ben
>surprised to see him alive
>calls the enemy space ships in pirate swarm 'planes'

ah, what?

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>>166310407
its just pillars kind of like crop circles but they left some posts up

>>166310901
ether way any people i see studying them are kos

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>>166308454
Not him but he might be talking about pic related

I used to play shitloads of E:D but lost interest a while ago. I wanna get back into it but I'm wondering if it's worth getting Horizons as well or if I should just stick to the base game.

>>166312382
if you do you can make forum dads mad by blowing up there ships when there doing a puzzle

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>>166312165
Just like planetside 2

>find two respawn vans in the middle of the desert
>one guy is just repeatedly headshotting another as his friend revives him

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>99% rep
>mission failed
>mission failed
>mission failed
frontier please fix this shit

>>166308485
Awesome descriptions. Helping me a ton.
So, all my recommendations and approx prices;

>Federal Assault Ship -- 20,000,000 (I'm 11mill short of this, could save up)

>Asp Explorer -- 7,000,000 (not as good as Vulture so forget it)

>Vulture -- 5,000,000 (probably my best choice)

>Imperial Courier -- 3,000,000 (looks sweet, how long does it take to rank up to get it?)

>Diamondback Scout -- 570,000 (solid, but I can afford better)

>Viper MkIV -- 440,000 (ok, but I can afford better)

So either save up for FAS, get the Vulture, or rank up for the Imperial Courier.

>>166307823
What's your purging ship?

>>166312984
https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/vulture?code=A0patfFalddksif30u7l00000204B25j33v6002f.Iw1%2FkA%3D%3D.CwBhGYEYJTIJkfMxSSA%3D.&bn=Boule%20De%20Nerfs
if you overcharge that power plant, you'll have enough power to run everything

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Chris Roberts should release more content.
Sandi Gardnier should stay the fuck out of this game and stick to her tickle porn fetish "yes search porn hub".
Lisa Ohanian had the best tits.
Dereck Smart was useful to get CR to put up or shut the fuck up.
Ben Lesnick is just there to appease fans.
Evocati is a bunch of try hard whiners and think they are special snowflakes. "yes im in Evocati"
Ship sales with warbonds are stupid, as they do bring in new money but fuck over those who have backed longer.
LTI is a joke and should be made for everyone to kill the grey "fag" market.
Friday Dev show should be geared towards the best of SC players not the Devs.
Weapons are broken, ships armor and subsystem HP is broken, a simple fix could fix this but developer chooses not to due to incompetence of not knowing how to play game.
*Getting bored writing but I could go on and on.

>>166313353
>*Getting bored writing but I could go on and on.

You could, but it would only further prove how little you know

>Ben Lesnick
>"appeasing fans"

lmao

>tfw you get a great kill on some fag in a much better ship and realize shadowplay isn't on
I was drifting backwards firing at him, but thanks to how COMPLETELY FUCKED the flightmodel is the fucking decouple just turns on randomly and realigns you, so it started moving me towards some rocks. this guy was right in my face and I got a rear collision warning, so I slammed on the boost and did a hard upward strafe. he didn't catch it in time and went nose first into the rock, exploding in front of me. fucking great stuff.

speaking of boost and general mechanics, what the fuck are those retards at CIG doing, holy shit! boost is x? bravo you stupid fucks, trying to use freelook, decouple, boost or turning off comstab and gsafe is an absolute shitshow. you pretty much have to hit keys until you get the right one and then hit all the others again to reset what you didn't want, unless you want to stop and look at your hands.

and god damn, did they INCREASE ttk as well? I spent 15 minutes in 1v1 against a 300 series and did not get a single kill despite hammering on that shitter constantly.

oh yeah, and he still won because every now and then my ship would just stop responding and leave me to drift. what the fuck? is this their ebin new fuel mechanic? because there's no goddamn fuel gauge in my ship, so I just randomly lose power with no warning and get thrown out the fucking map or left to try and swing my guns near the other guy until I hit a rock or he picks me off. what the fuck.

all around 0/10 CIG, get your fucking shit together.

>>166312984
Regarding the imperial courier rank. Not too long if you can find a good mission grinding system. Last I checked Aditi was quite good for rank if you took missions from there and delivered to the nearest populated system.

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>>166313353
>Ben Lesnick is just there to appease fans.

>>166312165
who gives a shit about leaderboards at this point

>>166313171
>Ben appeases fans
I'd be appeased if they cut him off and put his donut money into new server locations

>>166313502
Try me. Original backer, Evocati, high on the ladder board for Squadron Battles, play in competitive EA Discord server, been to CiG Studio, met CR, ER , etc. Spent over 5k on this game, and am able to afford it without affecting my life.

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>>166313848
>competitive
>competitive EA Discord

>>166314042
>>competitive EA Discord
Since you are out of knowing what im talking about then, the top players formed our own Discord where we have competitive battles with one another due to CiG broken ladderboard system. We square off with the best of other orgs.

>>166314169
how do you know who's a top player if you don't trust the leaderboards?

>>166314042
I think you are also confusing EA with Electronic Arts... Vs Electronic Access, its just a name, I didnt make it up..

Do we have a SC version of the navy seal pasta?

>>166314254
>>Thinking the leader board is not broken, you must be new here, its been broken for a long long time.

So, the leaderboard is the only content available in SC?

>top Battle Royale player preferences
>Mustang Delta with Omni VI

Different ships have different scores right? I thought the Sabre was the best dogfighter but it seems it isnt getting much.

>>166314950
this doesn't answer my question at all

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So 2.6.1 at the middle of february according to the schedule report.

That will be delayed to early March.

3.0 in August at the earliest because we will most likely get a 2.6.2 closer to May.

SQ42 at early 2018 + a "sorry"-letter from CR.

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The more I listen to the fanbase, the more I see how persistent universe and complex physics are incompatible with competitive play.

E-sport games are made of games that are very deterministic with nothing left to chance, only to skill or statistic at best (like knowing 50 or 60% damage). The simplicity of their physics engines reduce lag, miscalculation & bugs.
Finally, those game tend to be all symmetrical, a team can suck but they always aim for equal potential.
You never get character class that are only meant to help other get points.

tl;dr
e-sport players should keep their autism for other game than SC

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>>166320919
>E-sport games are made of games that are very deterministic with nothing left to chance
What is lag input, ping, crit chances, armor checks, equipment stats and random chance?

>>166313056
anaconda for now

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>>166305574
>implying there aren't

>>166321814
can't kill them yet

Is the Diamondback Scout good? More importantly, is smuggling a viable way to make money?

>>166321439
For now? I've been to the ruins, try purging my corvette I dare you.

>>166320919
What's the unique selling point of Star Marine anyway? People will put up with shitty mechanics if something is interesting. So far it looks like deathmatch - is there anything else planned?

The issue for Star Marine will probably be that for anything it does, another online shooter will have done it better.

>>166322250
HERETIC

>>166322043
The DBS is a nippy fighter comparable to the Cobra MK III, but with intrinsically low heat and a better jump range, it's the premier silent running ship, which is great for PVP, for pve bountyhunting it's still quite viable, though I found the cockpit a mite exposed.

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>>166322250
>fed
>doesn't want to study ayy lmao tech to then bolt onto his ship and remove xeno with it

>>166322565
That's pretty good. Is smuggling viable? I.e., buy something legally at one station and black market sell it at another

>>166322693
but using xeno tech is heresy anon

>>166322693
>Implying I'm not defending our brave scientists from gankers

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>>166323224
>Implying I'm not defending our brave heretics from heros

FTFY

>>166323168
not if you make it your own. reverse engineer and recreate the same principle/effects using human tech, not whatever bioshit or magic ayys would use

>>166323224
>bruteforce puzzle
>scientists

>>166323397
>heretical puzzle

>>166323364
FIGHT ME WEAKLING

>>166323397
Bruteforce?

Is there anything achievable in elite that isn't done by brute force of will?

>>166323085
Well, yes and no; is it a viable way to supplement your income?

Yes.

Is dealing exclusively in pilfered or illiegal goods worth the risk compared to legal ones?

Not really, but the consequences are piddling - quite a few passenger missions, especially the lower rank ones involve ferrying wanted criminals around, which are I suppose also a king of smuggling - people smuggling.

>>166322404
Star Marine is mostly just so they can test FPS combat and say "hey look we have an fps gamemode" while allowing players who just want to run around and shoot people to do exactly that without all the fuss of flying somewhere people are forced to disembark.
before SM there would just be people beelining Kareah every life to shoot the one other guy who is just trying to clear his wanted level just so they can play around with small arms

>tfw Frontier's constant nerfing of money making ways are their attempt at simulating an ever-changing economy.

>>166313848
Your obsession with being a "top" player coupled with your insistence that the game does not affect your life, and the added information that you've spent $5,000 on pictures of pretend spaceships leads me to believe that you're a massive, cocksucking, tryhard faggot.

>>166293348
You part of the DSA too?

>>166323397
Science in real life is mostly hard unglamorous grind too, kid.

Something being fun in this game would destroy my immersion.

>>166326178
>muh immersion

>>166320919
e-sports gamers seem to be alright with hidden knowledge in their games, even though it's a form of chance. See: all of the fps games played as esports

>>166325195

But the game already has an economy simulation.

I'm trying to rank up my Fed Navy status, but I've only seen/been offered one Navy related mission.
I'm grinding missions in out of the same system/base. Anything I'm doing wrong?

>>166323942
That sounds alright. I haven't played the game since the Horizons update and hearing about Thargoids got me all excited to dive back in. I want to go all-in on making a space career of legally questionable shit (smuggling, bounty hunting, etc)

>>166327084
That is strange. I assume you're allied with the factions? Try switching between open and solo, if nothing comes up try another system.

>>166327084
If you're at 100% rep to the next rank, make sure it's not just rounding (99.5+%) and turn in one or two missions just to be sure. Keep refreshing the mission board since the mission sometimes takes a while to spawn.

Otherwise, keep grinding missions for Fed-aligned factions.

>>166327393
Perfectly viable way to play the game, I used to be based out of the anarchy system HR6421, the Children of Raxxla are a criminal faction give good missions, they have a starport there, and there's either a pristine or metallic ring there to mine and hunt at.

>>166326557
Sure it does.

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we did it

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Best ship.

>>166329725
audibly chuckled

>>166321937

Unloading a full salvo of PAs and ramming one with my cutter didn't even dim its outer shield ring slightly, so it's probably safe to say the one in the script is completely invulnerable.

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>tfw combat in E:D is still a giant meme unless you play with people you know
>the tools to do this are non-existent

ED exploration question: do you get some kind of notice when you're the first discovering some system?
As of now I'm just firing advanced scanner and moving onto the next system ignoring deep-scanning every body, but if I'm the first to get there I might want to do it. Do I have to check system map every time?

>>166336810
The only notification is whether or not there's a CMDR name on the object your scanning.
So yeah you have to look at the map every time. You get paid at least half as much with just honking anyway.

>>166336810
You get a prompt with all the celestial bodies that you are the first to discover when you actually go to sell the data at a station. Yes you have to scan each body individually and check the map to see if no one has nabbed it first.

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>>166336775
>tfw E:D is still a giant meme

>>166337241
>>166337298
Ah thank you, as soon as I sent my post I just arrived to some shitty undiscovered system and noticed.
This is kind of annoying, some kind of notice after honking would be cool.

>>166337664
it hurts. I just want the game to be good.
It's so fucking close but FD keeps flopping.
They need to capitalize on the player numbers they're getting instead of waiting another 6 months before releasing more content.
There's like 10k people playing now. They're gonna get bored fast if FD doesnt move.

Fuck the 10 year plan. Do it in 5 and you'll have a good game.
Also remove engi RNG and relationship grind. It's fucking retarded. Literally no one likes it.

>>166337858
If they just put the player name on the labels you see when flying around it'd be much better.
The system map should be something you only need when you want to go somewhere specific.

anyone want to come purge some heretics or just pissoff some fourm dads at the ruins

>>166337858
just set up the next jump then open the system map and check, you'll have time to cancel the jump if a system is freed up.

>>166313682

THAT IS NOT SANDI GARDINER, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE HER.

>>166339308
Perception = Reality

>>166338414
The forumdads are in solo mode. I actually think you shouldnt punish people for playing open.
Also the area is heavily guarded.

If you want to PvP you should go to Eravate or something. There's always someone there that wants to fight.
If you want to kill unarmed explorers then you should kill yourself.

>>166340123
You know if they made the cash rewards for everything 25-35% higher in open mode with the option for even more for CG stuff we would never have this problem again.

>>166340576
Killing others just because doesn't give you anything either, correct?
They should also change that.

>>166340576

At this point, I don't even want that. It's nice to atleast pretend that the game is singleplayer.

>>166327493
Kek, I don't think I'm allied with them. How do you do that? And will that stop me from ranking up in the Empire, they have a cool ship or two I want.

>>166327595
How do you check percentage?

>>166341905
>How do you check percentage?
Right panel has two bars for each superpower, global rep and rep to the next rank. To rank up you need to do the special navy mission they give you when you hit 100% rep to the next rank.

Space legs?

>>166340576
Sandro suggested this awhile back and the forumdads responded with thread after thread of crying and fist shaking.

>>166343352
Space penis first.

>>166343419
link?

>>166316347
I want to believe 3.0 in may.

But whatever, I'm going to europe for 3 months in march so idgaf

>>166343419
has anyone on the forum ever suggested, 'maybe everyone here is retarded and you should stop running ideas by them, and just try them to see if they work?'

THESE FUCKING HERETICS USING XENO MAGIC TO SHIFT THERE SHIP TO A ALTERNATE PLANE

P-please buy Engineers to grind while you waiting another 6 month!
http://imgur.com/a/JGUbF

Is the Imperial Eagle better than the normal Eagle in every way?

>>166349581
It requires more characters to identify it. This can be taken as a disadvantage.

>getting millions a minute just switching menus and watching anime
>heater is on
>blanket

living the dream

is this eve online

>>166349973
Imagine if someone wished for "EVEO with player affected world and all that but real time combat and no high sec carebear zone." and the pinky on the monkey's paw curled up

>>166308098

Those things would be hilariously underpowered in the ED universe.

What's the equivalent of the Millennium Falcon in Star Citizen? Yes I want to be Han Solo.

>>166351549
Probably a fully engineered Diamondback Scout or Asp Explorer in terms of form and function

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>>166351549
hotly debated. was supposed to be constellation but it just aint. for function and aesthetic I say caterpillar

>>166349772
What?

>>166312984
>So either save up for FAS, get the Vulture, or rank up for the Imperial Courier.

The FAS is basically the Vulture's big brother and costs quite a bit more to kit out. Saving up for just a stock one won't serve you very well. Better to get something usable now and upgrade to it later.

A-ranking a ship typically costs several times the stock purchase price. If you only have 9mil then you can't even properly outfit a Vulture (20-22mil to A-rank).

You CAN A-rank a Courier for 9mil and getting to Master doesn't take long at all running missions in the Empire.

The Vulture's main advantage over the courier is that its large hardpoints don't have their damage reduced vs tougher targets. So it's more specialized towards taking down bigger game by dancing around them and punching holes in their engines/power plants.

>>166349581

It's more expensive and overheats more easily.

>>166339308
You are aware she has done nude scenes in a movie. Who goves a shit she has done tickle porn. Fucking white knights everywhere.

>>166339674

THAT IS NOT SANDI GARDINER YOU DICK, I LOOKED IT UP AND THE REAL TICKLE PORN ACTRESS IS MAE DEMMING, NOT SANDI.

______________;^)_______________

>>166355358

>Replying to bait

Refer to
>>166356687

>>166350096
SC or E:D?

j/k we all know it's both

>>166351549
probably the merchantman DESU

>fast
>bulky, but full of engines and big guns
>freighter
>smuggler
>unusual design

although we won't know until it comes out. It might end being "le wacky starfarer"

>>166357307

Neither. Play Space Engine. Or maybe wait for the end of this season of Elite and see if FD unfucks the game. They probably won't. Actually, go play Starsector or Freespace 2.

>>166358562
no I meant... man is everyone on this site incapable of linking two subjects together without them being in the same sentence?

Is Star Citizen a game yet?

Ok, so I have a passenger stuck in my cabin. I have no transactions. No idea what to do. Can't switch ships or take out the cabin.

>>166359023
sort of

>>166359023
no, just various testing modules

>>166340123

"Dads" will go away once EvE cancer metastasis itself to star citizen. It will start with players buying several cheap ships and just suicide bumping onto others while some team mate goes in and scoop/salvages anything the player dropped.

In the end it will be neckbeards online once again and shit will be lowsec

>fucking remember this

>>166349776
how

I seriously need a money making scheme to pay for the rebuys of my PVP corvette because fuck the FDL I'm not buying htat overpowered nigel thornberry looking piece of shit

>>166283850
Ehh..... Tortanic kinda was.
Just because they kind of salvaged the wreckage doesn't mean it wasn't at the seabed for a long time.

>>166364906
still sounds a lot more engaging to me, you'll be able to have organized crime, with crimestat raiders squealing in from null to do hits and get out, then the grey types swoop in and pick the husks bare, while the guy orchestrating the hit stays clean and makes easy money. at least it will be pretty slapdash trying to pull that kind of thing off and pretty awesome when you do, and if they do add player advocacy like they want to it would make for amazing detective gameplay if done well. imagine having a known gangster rival who has a place right in the nice area on Terra, who you're just waiting to bump another ship on the pad or something just so you can nail him with anything.

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>>166316347
Everybody in this general has been saying "3.0 at August" since the release of 2.6.0. We might meme it to reality at this pace.

>>166351549
The Constellation has been explicitly designed since day 1 to be SC's Falcon, but in terms of aesthetic it'd be a drake ship. Right now they only have a heavy fighter (Cutlass) and a larger transport (Caterpillar), if they ever have a ship exactly between those two in the Constellation spot, it'll be the Millennium Falcon exactly.

>>166365839

No fucks given for suicide bump as long as insurance has everything covered, but hell! I really want ninja salvage mechanics lol.

>>166356687

Only Derek faps to Sandi. Everyone else knows that native americans are dangerous people (much evil and murder) and just stay out of it.

>>166359023

The fuck it is. Its an elaborated screensaver.

You can always try the alpha if you have a NASA quantum super computer though. Runs at 50 FPS.

>>166341905
Nothing stops you from ranking with either faction. You can be an admiral in the fed navy and a king in the imperials if you wanted.

Just do missions for them, that will raise your reputation with a faction

>>166281814
Re downloading Star citizen since you could only move around in the hanger
Will it be fun?

>>166370894
Maybe.

There is a couple of nights worth of content right now, but that is it.

>>166349581
No. They sacrificed maneuverability for speed, which makes it a viper 3 with fewer hard points.

ded

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Post favorite weapon loadouts.

>Aurora LN with 414 mount and a Raptor IV missile. The rest doesn't really matter.

325a or avenger?

Must be good on a budget at both racing and combat with no regards for cargo (gaining REC).

>>166378695
>325a or avenger?
325a

I'm planning my first trip to Sagittarius A* and I'm currently outfitting my Asp Explorer.

With my current setup I have 41LY jump range, this is with a first class passenger cabin since a passenger mission to the center gives about ~50MCr. But I'm wondering about fuel tanks. Is a 32t fuel tank enough?

>>166386891
well as long as you have a good fuel scoop yes

This horizon extension or whatever you call it, all those updates we had this year were shit. Not a single one were relevant and added a single piece of gameplay. All we had was grind. Even landing on planet is fucking useless.

What are they planning for next year ? Did they planned anything at all ? Did they talked about the future ?

I'm still waiting for guild / alliance system, being able to control one, have your own space station (for you guild, eventually you would just have a station on earth that you can upgrade, add parking slots, and manage your own shop, etc.

I'm still waiting for a system were people can meet up whatever their faction, were you can organize some games like space races, SRV races, some battle, tournaments, etc.

Well, you got the idea. I'm still waiting that Frontier add socialisation tools, stuff to do with people, etc.

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>>166322404
>What's the unique selling point of Star Marine anyway?
Getting data and player feedback for development purpose.
That gamemode wasn't and will never be meant to outdo Battlefield, Call of Duty or even CS.
And the design goal of Star Citizen is also something that won't be comparable to Battlefield-like match.
That's why the kids here look so stupid complaining about the tech-demo

>>166326551
If for you 'hidden knowledge' mean knowing all maps and game trick very well, ok.
But those game are still made much simpler/stable for the sake of balance.
Compare by yourself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_eSports_games#First-person_shooters
When you have asymmetrical map it's the units that are, and when you get roles specific units it's the maps and teams. All of those game have been made for balanced pvp.

All I'm saying is that SC isn't made for balanced competition, that's even why the game aim to be 90 % npc, so everybody don't have an overall 50% death/kill ratio

>>166351549
Before it was meant to be the Constellation, but even if some people live in denial we all know it's the Caterpillar.
>old shit that always break
>cargo hauler that could eventually lose some modules.(I hope they get back to it)
>huge engine screaming to be modded
>side control room.
The Constellation line is far too high-tech, versatile and armed to be the Millennium Junk. The Falcon have never been an explorer, nor a gunship or even an agile ship. It's Han Solo who was awesome.

>>166351549
caterpillar = Phoenix > anything misc cuck related > that one guy who only thinks about how it looks and will mention that SC has no falcon looking ships

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>>166388418
You get a nice scripted apparition of invincible alien you can't interact with but can get you killed through a glitch.
If NPC were chasing you and the even start, they'll still jump on you midway between star and kill you because the alien froze you

>>166388418
>I'm still waiting for guild / alliance system, being able to control one, have your own space station (for you guild, eventually you would just have a station on earth that you can upgrade, add parking slots, and manage your own shop, etc.
How do player factions work?
Are those just people submitting "ideas" to FD and they go "ok, they'll now have this and this station" and that's it?

I just bought elite dangerous
Give me your protips

>>166393426
Refund it.

>>166393426
Refund this shit. I bought it too 3 days ago and only now find out that you cant set multiple waypoints on galaxy map.

>>166393426
Refund it.

>>166393426
Refund fag.

>>166393426
Bop it

>>166393426
Start out with bounty hunting in a high resource extraction site (you can find these my looking for planets with asteroid belts). What you want to do is wait for the security ships to attack wanted ships, then make sure you get a least a few shots on the wanted ship so you can steal the bounty. High res will earn you a lot of money quickly, but be careful as you're still in a sidewinder and will die quickly if a ship targets you. DO NOT attack ships if they are in a wing.

Once you have a good amount of money decide what trade you want to take up. There are plenty of cheap ships that will be starters for certain trades. Decide what suits you and start earning some credits.

>>166394617
Buy an Adder

RIGHT NOW

>>166392189
I don't know, I think there's something to do with all this stuff. You could say that a space station would cost between 100M to 1B according the size and its place in the galaxy and then the system, and it would benefit your guild/alliance/faction/whateveryounameit. Ofc it would require a few players to finance it and everytime people park on it, buy on it etc. would give your alliance a percentage. You would be able to collect stuff to your station, do missions to improve it, improve it with money, etc.
You would also have to make sure people is with your alliance by doing missions, and other guilds would be able to do missions on your station or solar system to upset people and eventually create some revolts, war or whatever and eventually raid your station to steal stuff from it.

There's a fuckton of space stations in the game, no point on creating new ones. Just make sure that not everyone can buy one with an high price, which would require a lot of people to buy it.


I think that would be the great part of this kind of system, to involve a few people working together, doing missions together for their benefits, and this would open a lot of quests to do within a group.


But I think you should permit some people to create their own space shop on those earth that are just useless. At first it would be a building with 1 dock that you would be able to buy (buy a pre existing one or put it where you want), and then you would be able to add more dock, more building and decide what you want to sell and you would have to bring them to your shop and manage it.
That would require the game to simulate NPC coming to your station once in a while, and manage how many people would come according the population of the system, and how big is your shop so you would make some benefits.


I know this is probably a shit idea, but the idea of owning something in the game and managing it sounds neat

>>166395261
What I meant is: there's already something called "player factions" but I'm not 100% clear on what those are or how they work.

>>166349772
>>166353867
>>166371957
So you guys recommend the normal Eagle over the Imperial one?

>>166395408
oh, well, the factions in the game are the federation, empire, alliance and some independent factions. basically some part of space are within their control and the idea is that you can get involve in a faction, do some shitty missions (grind) for them to expend their power and eventually defend (grind) some systems from changing ownership.
The system is broken (or maybe they fixed it, it's been a while that this bug exist) so it's pointless to get involve in this shit.
This faction system is just here for more grind. Some anon should correct me if I'm wrong tho, I tried it a few hours and stopped it when I realised it wasn't fun and added nothing of value to the game.

>>166393426
If you refund it before your two hours are up but don't close the game you can keep playing but will still get a refund.

>>166396023
I know what minor factions are, kind of, I was referring to a subset of those classified as PLAYER factions.
After a quick google search I got this:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/177719-Establish-your-own-Minor-Faction-and-FAQ

So just like I imagined, it's just groups of fags suggesting minor factions for the BGS, but not clear if there are extra gameplay implications or interaction for the groups/individuals who "created" them.

>>166394608
Twist it

>>166397082
load it

>>166397321
Light it.

>>166397380
throw it

>>166351549

Seems like it's pretty obviously the Freelancer to me.

Decently armed and armored, living quarters for a small crew, and built as a freighter.

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>>166397515
You should never throw a bong kid, ever.

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>>166397720
>thinking about a bong before a gun or a molotov cocktail

I just came back into the game and apparently I have a Viper waiting for me in a hangar, I used to roll an eagle around a year and a half. Should I stick with the viper or buy one of the new ships?

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>>166397915
molotov... that would work too.

>>166398314
viper III is a decent fighter if you have nothing else, Diamondback scout is better but slightly more expensive.

next multipurpose upgrade is Cobra III/Viper IV, next fighter is Vulture

Eagle with 100% railguns is fun tho

>>166398538
Alright, it's a viper IV actually, I forgot there were more than one. Any set up recommendation? Also do I lose the ship for good when I die?

Ok, asked this yesterday but still having trouble.

I'm trying to up my Fed. Navy rank, I have Recruit at 100%, but I can't seem to get the next Navy mission.

I keep running mission out of a station that is green on my HUD, but no mission. I did my first Navy mission here, it's definitely Fed.

>>166399103
The sub faction in question will be cordial (more than half the influence bar) and have the Fed logo next to their name in the mission list. Best thing to do is find a fed mission giver that is cordial or better and just sit there and switch from Open to Solo and/or private to refresh the mission list and wait for a Navy mission to spawn.

>STORE CREDITS
>$20.00 USD

wat do

Whats a good PVE build for the vulture or FDL that doesn't use multies. I have multies on my 'vette and Python but I want to go fast and I'm sick of multi-cannons. I have engineers maxed so go crazy.

>>166399490
Buy windows and a door in SC

>>166399490
upgrade your starter Mustang to Avenger Titan.

>>166398960
on your right hand menu in your cockpit you have an assurance value somewhere. That's what you have to pay every time you die if you want your ship back, we call it "rebuy". If you don't have enough, you can take a loan but the rule of thumb is to never EVER EVER EVER EVER fly without rebuy

https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/viper_mk_iv?code=A0pataFal8dasdf4272729290400B3032t29v6012f.Iw18UA%3D%3D.EwBjEYxcfVQCwgMxiA%3D%3D.&bn=entry%20multipurpose%20fun

an idea for a multipurpose build that doesn't completely suck at combat. Don't forget to set up your power priorities unless you want a total system failure when you deploy your weapons.

Git gud at using these railguns and you'll love them because one small railgun does more DPS than one large beam. Lots of distributor draw tho, can be a drawback on small ships. Consider swapping for FIXED beams. Seriously if you use anything else than fixed hitscan weapons I wil personally track you down and murder you for failure at gitting gud. Gimballed kinetics are fine if you're not *that* gud and/or lazy like me

the one flaw of the viper IV is that it's so much slower and less agile than the Viper III it's worse in combat compared to all other ships in the class, even the Cobra III. If you have one for free, use it, it's a good ship to gid gud because it forces you to use FAOFF maneuvers and vertical/lateral thrusters in combat

>>166399362
Looks like I'm doing everything right, just getting unlucky with the mission spawn. I'll try this. Thanks.

Who else is waiting for the inevitable alien SC expansion before buying in? I want sleek, smooth alien tech. Not disgusting, blocky human garbage.

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3.0 will destroy Elite, screenshot this.

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Do you think the pirate skin the shop will be this?

I think it looks pretty good and would deinfiely pick it up if the cockpit lighting is truly neon pink.

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>>166400693
>3.0 will destroy Elite
Roberts, hear our prayer

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Just discovered that
>Line Of Defense Tactics - Tactical Advantage
Is available on Steam
http://store.steampowered.com/app/267220

Are you hyped up ?

>>166395994
Yes, but I would recommend a viper 3 over an eagle. The eagle is fun if you're popping other tiny ships, but lacks the firepower for anything cobra sized and up. Although I haven't tried rail guns since the magazine buff.

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>>166401109
>Roberts, hear our prayer

>>166401827
I have a few other ships, the Eagle is just for fun.

>>166400693
...we have almost all of that. only thing we don't yet is planetary landing (he was literally delusional for thinking that was any time soon anyway), and female characters. we got blacks though, so surely the tolerators are mollified for a while

I'm looking for a game that :
>have the same control tier of E:D for the ship
>not as realistic so there isn't as much grind
>there's a community on it and you can do things with people

>>166403512
Star Citizen

>>166403512
that literally just sounds like the selling points for star citizen

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>>166401460
>negative

>>166399103
>>166399362
>>166400591
Didn't work, but I got to Cordial in another system and finally got it.

>Federal Navy Strike Contract
This sounds and looks like a massacre x whoevers mission. Any time I try that I get a bounty out the ass/I can never find the fucking ships.
Can anyone explain how to do this mission properly?

>>166404360
>the passing of the Lýðveldið, or golden buttplug, is a tradition dating back to the early founding of Icelandic culture.[9] The island eventually took it's name from this practice.

you learn something every day

newfag here.. im sick of doing shitty 10k cr delivery missions, but the good ones that pay 50k+ require me to travel to places i cant reach. so who do i get there? the map is impossible to fucking read i cant just jump to a nearby system then the next closet and go like that.. can i? and how?

>>166405675
you need a better fsd bub

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>>166375586
>they're actually patching this away all the way down to S2 mounts

>>166406443
source? it'll be the 281 then, can't stop this suicide van

>>166406717
>it'll be the 281 then

281 doesn't exist, its 221.

Hardpoint itself is getting reduced from S4 to S2.

>spent an hour killing wanted people, collected around 500k with my eagle
>attempt to kill a lone sidewinder
>it kicks my ass and I lose all my progress
fug

>>166406897
>>166406717

oh and source
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report

>All Auroras can now equip a Size 2 missile rack

>>166406897
fuck, maybe I'm thinking of a 381 or a 481, there was definitely an 8rack for S1 missiles though. still though, source? is it just because people are al-quedaing in AC? I tried it yesterday and they S4 fucking sucked for tracking anyway, though might have been my shitty connection.

>>166407148
221, 341, 481 is how it works.

Essentially doubles the number of S1s every size upgrade.

S4s are practically 1HKs on most ships, though. Might have just bought the wrong one.

>>166407030
>balancing the entire lineup which is shit by making the combat variant even shitter
I pray that's now what they mean, and it's just that the base auroras can now have the size 2 mount.

hell there's a good chance they'd forget to remove the capability to put the size 4 on anyway, even if that was their intent.

>>166407317
has to hit first. that was my problem. I was dropping them on a 300 from <700m and he was still shaking them. but like I say, shit connection. all kind of retarded stuff was happening. that was me with >>166313654

>>166407030
>Dead player was able to capture a control point

kek I got that one and it was still fair because the fucking console refused to acknowledge me for like 15 seconds and I got shot in the back trying to make it work. then as I was about to respawn I got the terminal hacked bonus.

>>166407030
So, what's the missile size on the Auroras again? I don't know where you find that chart with ship data.

(please spoonfeed me)

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>>166407829
Fuck, I mean to ask for the LN, they are all the same now?

>>166407998
LN has two S4 hardpoints.

Think the rest have S2.

>>166405289
white people desu baka

>>166408141
>two
he's asking about missiles

>>166407998
LN currently has a single size 4 pylon mount. it's apparently up in the air whether that's going to change, so if you want to be a Qbomber you best get yourself some S3 or S4 mount to rent now and have your fun while you can. the mounts are actually pretty cheap, cheaper than the missiles.

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Las thread or some threads ago someone posted a ship that I'm trying to id.
At first I though it might be from ED, but after checking each and every ship from there maybe it was from SC.
Pic is roughly the approximate shape it would have when looked from the top, from the best of my recollection and ability.

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>>166409159
Idris viewed from the top?

>>166409159
The Glaive

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>>166405675

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>>166409332
It looked like a small/medium ship, had a body, then like two "arms" spawning from the sides towards the back, that's where I'm assuming the thrusters were.

>>166409484
Not that one either.

It was really square-y and the picture I saw was approaching/landing on a planet/moon so that's why I assumed it was ED's.

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>>166409916

So why did the ED devs chose to not give the game any meaningful content like the X series or Freelancer had it?

>>166409916
Go here
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/ship-specs

and here
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Ships

and stop being a lazy faggot

>>166409916
Must be the Esperia Prowler then

>>166403884
>>166403830
but people keep telling me sc will never get out of this alpha stage

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>>166405675
Sounds like you haven't plotted a route on the galaxy map yet. Select the system you want to travel to and click on the symbol to the right of the arrow to plot a route.

3.0 soon, nigga

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20570216T16&p0=137&msg=Countdown+to+Estimated+3.0+Launch&font=sanserif&csz=1

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>>166411253
Are you even trying?

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=39991231T235959&p0=187&msg=2.6.1+Release+date&ud=1&font=cursive

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>>166409159
>>166409916
Found it.
It's a fighter not a ship, no wonder it wasn't listed anywhere I looked.
Yeah, my memory and drawing are shit.

Has anyone tried Interstellar Rift at all? Is it worth the fifteen hamboygahs?

Looks like it could potentially be a decent "SC isn't out yet" placeholder game

>>166410369
yeah and bannerlord will be never released and cyberpunk 2077 is cancelled

it's just gonna take awhile

>>166411809
>Interstellar Rift
Also interested.

>>166411809
>released June 2015
>EA notices says it will take rougly a year to leave EA.

The only reason to pick that up instead of waiting for 3.0 which will most likely get released before IR gets out of EA is if IR is as good as Original Sin 2 in EA.

>>166410369
yeah well if you want less grind, more community and less autisim with more scifi fun SC has pretty much all that right now. you can't be a space trucker just yet and there's only a few areas, but the core mechanics are mostly there, and enjoyable. currently in the universe mode there is probably at least as much pvp as pve. the other night I got murdered by stowaways in my own ship, respawned, tracked them down in a single seater, boarded while they were out robbing a station, and waited to murder them when they came back.

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>>166406443
>>166407030
>>166407323
I really hope they meant the Aurora's that are size 0 now. Taking away the 4 size 2 missiles, which the LN has had for literally years now, would be a fucking awful yet consistent decision.

>>166413404
yeah, I'm hoping that they just mean all auroras can now equip 'at least' a size 2 mount.

To anyone doing the Wu Guinagi/HIP grind for Empire ranks, try Fehu for even quicker planet scan missions. A dad reported it back in December as an exploit and got a response that it was being looked at but it still works.

>>166417261
Fuck you sociopath, profitability within a reasonable amount of time is exploiting the game

>>166417261
How quickly can you stack 20 missions there?

>>166417585
No more than 3-4 refreshes to get a full stack at max rep. Wu/HIP would take me like 20.

Forgot to mention that you need an SRV, for those new to planet scan missions.

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FUCKING BUFF THE MUSTANG ALPHA

What do you expect/want from the Merchantman now that it's confirmed that they are working on it?

>>166424940
>it's confirmed that they are working on it
Where? They just posted a fucking concept art to calm down ribbit

Does doing missions actually affect the game world in ED? I'm trying to crush some commie faggots that started a civil war in my system and have been doing a lot of work for their rival.

>>166424940
>>166425205
I think all of the cargo ships, except Hull series, will probably be ready for 3.0. Cargo and piracy are going to be the only jobs at first, and it seems they won't release 3.0 without all the cargo ships being ready for it.

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>>166425205
Guess most know already but damn that's a spicy meatball
Glad I collect overpriced ayy

>>166425710
I like those alveola grids

>>166340123
Come up to Dimoco and help me in their civil war if you want fun and profit. I made like, 5 million today off massacre contracts alone.

>>166425365
>Merchantman not even in greybox phase
>ready for 3.0
So, 3.0 in 2018?

>>166351549
Viper MKIV

>>166425814
How much do you fucking smoke?

>>166425986
I doon't

>>166425863
The ship pipeline is the one thing that actually works better than they meant it to. I'm betting the corridor teaser probably means we will see more of the BMM Soon™.

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>holographic trails to next ring

Y/N?

>>166426257
y, only if they are a different color than the COLOR OF THE FUCKING SKY!!!

>>166425710
What a horribly inefficient design

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>>166425710
so how large is it supposed to be now? It would have to be really large to have corridors

>>166426425
Don't worry anon, Im sure thats a priority.

Its not like its been an issue on Broken Moon for 2.5 YEARS

>>166426591
THICC
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>>166426512
It's supposed to be an extravagant place to barter

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>>166426670
thicke

>>166426739
wow super intelligent alien race which has 10 times the lifespan of a human being + probably 10 times more advanced than humans
what do they come with?
fucking wooden/metal chairs which are uncomfortable as fuck
wow

>>166426245
>The ship pipeline is the one thing that actually works better than they meant it to.
Citation needed
The Starfarer took more than a year and that's a high priority Squadron 42 ship

>>166406927
Check their combat rank

>>166427058
The Cat, Herald, and 85x making in 2.6.

>>166427139
>Cat
Took 2 years
>Herald
Squadron 42 high priority ship, also took half a year despite being small as fuck
>85x
Pretty much an Origin kitbash

>>166351549
Conni probably. Maybe Carrack

I'm jumping back in on E:D. Thargoids got me excited I don't care

yfw multicrew and spacelegs debut at the same time