XCOM General - /xcg/

1st for small maps are a blessing.

2nd for small maps are a nightmare.

3rd for small maps are for faggots

4th for small maps are for rookies

5th for small maps make my dick hard

C-C-COMBOBREAKER

are people busy playing. sleeping or what

pistols are useful

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Xth for dodge: grazed (1 damage)

why are the EXALT missions in LW1 so fucking bullshit? this is the least amount of fun you can have playing this game. especially the 4 man extractions.

How the hell do you liberate a region? I'm 3 months in and still nothing

>>166417654
are you using the comm hacks? if your covert op has high enough mobility you should be able to chain them

>>166417471
>tfw too busy trying to learn modeling to play long dong 2

>>166417865
>
No he's just winging it :^)

>>166417471
Busy watching JoiNrbs crush L/I LW2. Also jacking it from time to time.

>>166417779
Ok, here we go again.

First, complete a secret mission in the region. This isn't labeled as anything special, no way to know what it is, sorry.

Second, you'll start seeing Liberation missions pop up in that region. Complete two of those.

Third, that'll unlock the Network Tower. Complete that.

Fourth, that unlocks the ADVENT HQ. When you complete that, the region is liberated and you unlock the Avatar Project.

So I'm infiltrating a regional base or something right now. Is this how you bring the avatar project down or at least how you learn where you are at the moment with the avatar project? I wish Dor came back so he could port more female titanfall outfits.

>>166417936
assuming that comment is sardonic I don't know what else to tell you

EXALT missions are pretty easy if you plan well

About to embark on my first ADVENT tower mission, what should i expect? They have a 6 Regional Strenght

Just got Xcom 2 from the humble bundle! Big fan of Xcom: Enemy Unknown, played it all the time back in high school.
Can't wait for my favorite suqad members to die again :(

>>166418348
>hey have a 6 Regional Strenght
I would honestly suggest you fuck off and do it again when the heat level is lower for the region. Infinite reinforcements are no joke.

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>>166417779
>>166418110
>>Liberating a region.
>>No Air Force to keep it free.

Seems legit.

>>166418348
Play hard, play fast, TAKE A SPECIALIST, know that when you hack the tower, it stuns everything on the field for two turns.

>>166417865

yeah it's not hard to chain except when there's 2 yellow moves between each.

>>166418110
>JoiNrbs

who

>>166418709
You can't control the ground from the air. Air Force exists to support the ground grunts, not the other way around.

>>166418849
https://www.twitch (notspam) .tv/joinrbs

One of the testers for Legend LW2 and one of the best LW1 players in the world. He streams 7-7 every day since LW2 release. He's pretty damn good.

I'm continually amazed that no one here knows this guy.

>>166418608
WELCOME BACK COMMANDER

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>>166418884

There is no point in ground control if you get glassed from orbit.

>>166419252
they can't glass shit from orbit

they need us for their new bodies

>>166419252
But they don't want to glass stuff, they want to hold territory.

>Grazed War 2: Low Percentage Shots

What went wrong?

>>166419603
Nothing. I enjoy seeing my guys survive getting hit while in cover.

>>166419331
>>166419419

Good point tho the problem comes once they move into the phase of 'dispose of all non-essential human life' the plan.

>>166418613
Do i have to put all the resistence member on hiding AND avoid all missions in that region to lower the strenght? How long does it takes?

>>166419737
I think the main thing is too not run missions, so I could be wrong. Maybe put people on recruiting and supplies and not do missions?
I'm not very familiar with it, but running missions in other regions while ignoring that region should reduce the strength. I don't know how quickly.

>>166419715
it's "processing" not disposal

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Why does it feel like the atmosphere in /xcg/ has become a lot more angry and hostile since LW2 released?

>>166420360
Because people are angry and hostile to change. Just like when X2 came out.
It also brought more people back to the general. So more chance for loud angry vocal people.

i beat base xcom 2 at commander difficulty when it came out but im having a lot of trouble with lw2 on standard difficulty

is it just because i havent played so long? will i get used to it or should i play on lowest difficulty?

>>166420360
Rookies desperately need to shit on something.

>>166420360
/v/ happened

>>166420520
If you haven't played with the previous LW X2 mods, then there is alot of stuff you won't know. Some more play time will fix it.

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>>166420360
graze graze graze graze
graze graze
graze grazegraze grazegraze grazegraze graze
graze graze graze graze

then flashband + gremlin aid and still get oneshotted from full hp
I also enjoy sneaking around only to find out Ayyliens used those 5 rounds to swam the objective forcing triple pull
and lastly 8 Ayy pods and 20 aliens on screen

all very FUN and engaging

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what are they talking about

>>166421368
>I bet you can't sssswallow that flamingo
>You're on Ssssssamantha
>Damn girlssss you're too ssssassssy for me

>>166421368
Getting moved to a sunnier post

>>166421087
Sounds like a case of git gud you gutless simpleton. I'm 3 regions into my commander run and things have been smooth and by the numbers except on two missions.

Just kidding, I can't get to mission 2 because of persistent unresolvable bug over the 10 times I've tried to start a campaign.

>>166421368

Their favorite Manolo Blanco tail-socks.

>>166421772
>Just kidding, I can't get to mission 2 because of persistent unresolvable bug over the 10 times I've tried to start a campaign.
Sounds like your config is fucked.

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>>166421368
>>166421703
>record scratch
enter xcom

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HAHAHA! Get fucked ADVENT! Now I'ma high tail it outta here.

>>166421914
I saw that post and tried deleting the configs and verifying files, even disabled everything but lw2 and unsubscribed from old outdated mods. Right now I'm on the full reinstall of the game stage and don't know what to try after if it doesn't work.

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>>166421916

Excellent job Commander.

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>>166421916
VIGILO CONFIDO
VIGILO CONFIDO
VIGILO CONFIDO
EARTH BELONGS TO HUMANS

>>166422127
>humans
Fuck I meant humanity. Sounds better.

>>166422098
That sucks, I haven't had a single crash or gamebreaking bug yet. I'm assuming you deleted all the mod configs?

>>166422127
>>166422114
it was the right thing to do

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>>166421916
VIGILO CONFIDO

>>166422375
Yep, regenerated em all but the bug still persists. For anyone else who might be dealing with the same, it's the bug where you don't have any way to scan for intel to pass time, just the black market and then nothing to scan at all where you should be able to land the avenger and scan until missions pop up.

>>166422932
best of luck with your game anon

I have no supplies to buy decent weapons and armor. Enemies keep 1shotting me. Just git gud or does the binary life/death persists later?

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no collaborators

>>166423712
"Soft" Cheat

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>>166420360

Same thing that always happens when something high-profile releases.

>>166424908
or course tygan doesnt use tomorrow

>>166425124
only fags use anything other than yotsuba

it's a classic

>>166425124
>>166425341
>Not using Minimalistic

>>166425341
go back to the retirement home

>>166425371
bitch I'm not even old enough to drink until saturday

fight me

>>166425341
I use tomorrow because the white hurts my eyes

>>166425481
na you are ancient, older than dirt, older than the sun, you might as well be an ayy

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has anyone beaten LW 2 yet?

>>166425362
post pics

i need a new theme for 4chan x

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>Shit crashes at the monthly report screen repeatedly.
Am I alone in this hell?

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So what does the other money amount not in parenthesis mean when you're scanning at a haven? It doesn't get given to you at the end of the month, so whats it do?

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>>166425960
Ignore random anime girl on the side

>>166420004

Pretty much the same for XCOM

>Used to the weird Long War 2 thing of turning the loading screen into some creepy shit
>Suddenly the transition makes a crackling radio sound
Fuck, was this always happening?

has beagle posted his ini edits yet

>>166422932
oh, try resubscribing

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When are we getting multiple SPARK classes? I miss my mine trapper MEC.

>>166428426
Soon ™

also, is Spark useful in LW2? I don't have any dlcs and I want mechs in my LW

>>166426057
I think the left is the amount you collected so far and the parenthesis the possible amount you could get in a month.

Don't quote me on that tho.

>>166428646
I got a FIFTY TWO day repair timer for almost losing the SPARK in the mission you get him, so I've been pumping every defensive option.

They never ever shoot him, so I can't judge it too well.

They're giving them 5 ablative health in 1.1, so I think they'll no doubt be useful at that point.

Old thread i left as it got full so couldn't see all the replies. But what is the ideal squad and base build? Lost to two side by side sectopods and some guy suggested more grenadiers. What makes them better than say 3 specialist?

>>166429171
grenades are incredibly overpowered

>>166412732
Is there a mod or way to prevent concealment breaking for interacting or hacking mission objectives?

i.e. planting x4 charges, hacking relays, hacking vip containment units etc

I feel like if you were able to sneak past all the enemies under the time limit you should be rewarded. I mean you don't get corpses but you get out alive.

If this is somehow op is there a class, skill, or even item that accomplishes this? I can't be the only one who wants this right? I want to be able to metal gear it up sometimes.

>>166429878
You talking with or without LW2? Cause doesn't LW2 nerf the cover destruction capabilities of the grenades?

Or are you talking about armor shred potential?

>>166429171
Grenades do everything, better grenades do everything better. They remove cover, opening aliens up to fire, shred armor, guaranteed damage, sometime bonus effects to keep enemies down if you can't finish them, open passageways, proxy mines are the best way to start a fight, salvo lets you do the above and take a shot, and probably much more.

>>166430056
I think he's talking vanilla, where grenades were the stuff of dreams and legends.

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>>166416664
>>EXPANSION STATUS: UNKNOWN
>>166428646
>>Soon ™

Any idea what the 'Official' Expansion will be? Pic related?

>>166430319
I'm still hoping for an optional Advent Mode.

>>166430319
EW came 13 months after release, so we should be hearing something soonish. maybe in two months since they had the dlc being bigger this time around.

>>166429065
Hmm, might get the dlcs then before 1.1 hits.

Thanks anon.

>>166429171
Grenadiers are amazing. I would say focus on either left or right side on each one, maybe some middle perks inbetween. Left is blow cover and do damage and right side is support.

Specialists I used for Revival/Aid Protocol and range hacking only.

My current best squad has

2 Sharpshooters, one focused on holo targeting and the other full damage/aim/crit, he also has some amazing AWC perks. The perk that makes killing someone on lower ground and gives you a turn back is OP with steady aim.
2 Grenadiers - Either 2 full damage or 1 damage and 1 support
1 Ranger - my officer
1 Technical - fire perks pretty much all the way + focus on mobility + exo suit
1 Shinobi - just to give my snipers vision, sometimes I bring a pure melee
1 Gunner
1 Assalt - Arc thrower build
1 Specialist

For lower than 10 men I just remove stuff based on the mission

>>166430319
Maybe messing with genetics? Like mixing soldiers with aliens?

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SWEET FUGGIN HOLY SHITFUCK CHRIST ON A CRACKER

WE

ARE

LEA - VING

does anyone know how to fix the under the lagvenger bug?

Is there a way to console command the fog of war away?

I want you guys to appreciate just how many xeno fucks are chasing my poor sniper

>>166430717

Get rid of your Avengers Menu mods

>>166431128
i have none

>>166430319
I bet cash money that the expac will feature alien allies

>Soldier gets mind controlled
>Stun him
>Next turn I stun the Sectoid
>Soldier is now stunned forever
>Can't evac

MAGNIFICENT!

>>166431419
Comissar his ass and move on

>>166431453
He's the only one left

>>166431419
Throw a fucking Flashbang you mong.

>>166428781
Left was building up as I scanned at the base with a bunch of people set to supply, and none of that money was actually adding to my real supplies so it can't be that. Maybe its the build-up to next months?

>>166431361

I dunno. They've gone out of their way to hammer home how the aliens are "pure evil"

>>166425752
Probably some of the play-testers.

>>166430717
delete your config folder

>>166431673
doesnt work

>>166431593
Yeah, I meant like collected for the next supply drop.

>>166431595
it'll be some race that we havent seen

and for the most part the advent are evil, most of em are probably mind controlled, maybe they'll emphasize that? I dunno.

>>166431595
>>166431824
I think it'd be cool if it were the grey sectoids

>>166431824
What about EXALT?

>>166431948
>eggsalt is back in the flesh
hoo boy

>>166431948
don't exist

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>>166432137
>Getting to say its "Its always fucking something with these guys" for both ADVENT and EXALT

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>/xcg/ after long war 2 release

dear god it's pic related all over again

>>166431748
that usually works sorry pal

>>166430319
vahlen is the villain mark my words

she'll probably have some rogue group ala exalt or some organization within advent that functions without control or does some schutzstaffel shit

Does LW2 have EXALT?

>>166431361
No, they make out all the non-ethereal aliens as genetic blankslates with no personailty of their own. Its perfect for an alien rescue plot. But I see the expac as a post game thing because the war has barely started after the game ends and Advent is still around

I just realized that Bulwark blocks your own SPARK from shooting things in point blank. How does that even make sense?

>>166432164
That would be the point of the expansion

I want a snek to eat me

"pure virtual function error"
fucking
anyone want to help me check the crash report+mod list and see what keeps fucking up since the patch

Do we know what the future plans are for LW2?

Is what we have now pretty much the whole thing, or will a ton of things be added?

>>166426035 here, for anyone having this problem for me it turned out to be configurable birth dates that was fucking everything.

>>166433624
korrams is that u

>>166433817
I imagine theres going to be Second Wave options.

Rapid targeting is a fucking boss perk

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FIRE!

>>166433326
Jake

What graphics setting affects Fire tanking my framerate

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>tfw there's hope for the Halo Reach Weapons mod

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>pods can attack after being activated
[ENRAGING ACTIVITY]

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I have a really hard problem utilizing stealth on missions in LW2. Even if I don't take utility items and boost mobility, it seems like there are too many enemies on the map, and not enough turns available to go around them safely. How are people making this work?

>>166434569
"FXAA" (MSAA is often ineffective in XCOM 2 and has a severe performance cost)
- "Tile AO" (SSAO is one of the most demanding effects in any game)
- "Medium" shadow quality(~25% performance boost)
- "Simple" depth of field instead of "Bokeh" (action scene performance hog, little visual difference)
- "Screen Space Reflections" disabled (nicer reflections and lighting but a ~10% FPS penalty)

>>166434982
This doesn't answer my question m8. I use Tile AO, no DoF, and Medium Shadows and everything runs perfectly until I make a huge hole in a building or theres fire. Decals maybe?

>>166435110
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=620508289
i followed this and fire seems all good i dont know what specifically its tied to

>>166434756
And some people honestly think Long Dong the 2nd isn't magnificent enough.

>>166434910
My goto is to blue move everyone about, then orange move everyone, that way you don't just sprint across half the map just to get spotted by civilians, you can easily see them and anything else in your way.

>>166435579
That's the only way I ever move my troops, regardless of how I'm playing the mission. My problem is that on nearly every map there are multiple pods between me and the objective, and not enough time to go all the way over or around the buildings and landscape to avoid them but still get to the objective in time.

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>no time to infiltrate, fuck why not let's go ham
>9 rookies on moderate-heavy hacking mission
>first turn move everyone to roof
>second move aggro 4 pods
>evac in 8 turns
>epic roof defense
>5 make it out

I swear playing stupid is way more fun than playing smart sometimes

>>166435807
>operation death wagon
my dude

>>166435702
You either stealth in with 2-man shinobi & specialist squads or you don't at all and go loud when you have the advantage

Is there a way to get custom pistol models to replace the one in LW2?

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>map design forces 2 pods both consisting of 6 aliens to patrol around each other
>activating one forces you to activate the other one next turn
>the 2nd pod that activates gets to attack you on the same turn
Magnificence is an understatement.

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>>166437140

rockets and flashbangs lad

>>166437290
It isn't that simple, lad.

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BF4 ports when?

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Wakaliwood voice mod WHEN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEoGrbKAyKE

lewd war mod when

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>current year
>not liberating sneks under the promise of "First Earth, then Snekland"

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>>166438034

>needing a reason beyond mating

>>166438034
>Deflected

>>166426069
Kirino deserved to win by the way.

>>166438271
I just noticed that lol

>>166437552
I'm suprised that there are still no Battlefield ports yet

>>166438034
All the other subdued races are probably implanted and/or psychically kept in line so that betrayal is not possible. Also they've had to do with probably centuries of mind control.

>>166435221
>Follow all of this
>Go to geoscape and get 12 fps tops
I read it's likely mods conflicting but I can't figure out what.

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>>166438789
Then you could imagine how they would feel about their liberators allowing them to freely think for themselves again

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>LW2
>freezes then crashes when accept is clicked after choosing the dlc on title screen

Guess I'll remove the few gameplay mods others have used for LW and clean out the cosmetic shit.

Also, do I delete the config files and let them regenerate before installing LW and other mods?

>>166438928

You should, but i didn't and it works fine for me.

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>only three pods in the mission
>this happens

every time

>>166420360
Some of us who abandoned xcom 2 came back

and we have seen that nothing has improved and criticize the lack of improvement and general buffoonery/incompetence that most of the autists who stuck with the general have come to accept and put up with.

Xcom 2 isn't a bad game, but it was still a failure from a design perspective; nothing more than a rehash of the first game. Long War 2 is just, I don't even know wtf lumpy is trying to do with long war 2, but it's retarded.

Maybe firaxis or lumpy will get their shit together, but largely I suspect they won't. Especially with being surrounded by so many sycophants for so long.

>>166439640
Open up your heart to some sunshine and have some fun.

These Faceless Infiltrator things gotta bugged. I've had decently ranked soldiers/officer stationed in the Havens and I still am losing half my supply. Haven't found a single one and I'm at the end of May.

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CAN YOU RESET DISORIENTATION BY FIRING ANOTHER FLASHBANG AT THEM
THIS IS A QUESTION OF LIFE OR DEATH FOR ONE OF MY MEN RIGHT NOW

>>166440124
YES

>>166440124
yes

>>166438789

Andromedons never really felt like a slave race to me; you'd think the elders would've chosen something that can handle earth's atmosphere

>>166438897
There are ways to breed out free thought altogether, given the technological level of the eldar. Undoing might be possible, but very hard when the populace you're supposed to be helping is resisting you at every opportinity.

>rookie panics due to mindspin while right next to the evac
>survives getting shot at for two ayy turns
>gets hit for 1 protected damage while moving to evac and panics again
>survives getting shot at for two ayy turns
>gets hit for 1 protected damage while moving to evac and panics AGAIN
>survives getting shot at for an ayy turn then gets mind controlled
>mission over

the ayys can have him for all I care goddamn what a shitshow

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>>166440621
>There are ways to breed

>>166440124
Yes, you can refresh the timer, but you won't stop some abilities they activated if they're already disoriented. Overwatch is a good example.

>>166421368
"Why do we have breasts?"

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I got a loving snek. What do

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>>166440767

REMOVE IT

>>166440124
>>166440154
>>166440163
>Saved lives with it
>One Officer still put somebody else Gravely Wounded because he somehow crit them while he was suppressed AND disoriented
Lucky motherfucker. Regardless, nobody died. Thanks Anons.

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I might be seeing shit, but unless I'm not something's definitely wrong with the Kevlar/Ceramic Vest utility. If you lose 1 or all 2 points of protection Red Fog acts as if you lost some health and penalizes your mobility, aim, etc. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

>>166440767
PR program
Propaganda aimed at other sneks
rid of the eldars of all their thralls
begin the galactic resistance

>>166440767
She'd lose her armour if she molted though. Would you want a naked snake slithering around the battlefield?

...never mind

>>166440917

>naked snake

this is a sneking mission

>>166440621
Perhaps with sufficient psy reserch they could find a way to undo the effects. If it is mind control.

They could also be test tube babies conditioned to obey.

>>166440767
I hope someone finds out what the dlc broke to give them custom armor.

>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=634813287
>There are more accents than that, but these are the accents/voices that I've received explicit permission to. The rest, I haven't gotten to yet.


Has anybody else ported the missing accents to 2 yet?

Whats the secret to Apocalypse?

I just sold all my ground vehicles and bought bike with janitor missiles then equipped all my dudes with the machine guns.

Am I pretty much set?

>>166440892
You know, a mod that deploys a hidden pirate network plane/drone to naturally recruit humans and others with a chance to be discovered and destroyed might be cool.

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>uninstall and reinstall entire game
>takes 4 hours
>reinstalls all mods too, takes 2 hours
>delete and regenerate configs before even going in
>do LW2 gatecrasher for the 11th time, excited to finally have squashed this bug
>get to avenger
>still no fucking way to scan to pass time

Please, if anyone knows what exactly I can do to stop this I need to know. I'm using only LW2 and mods confirmed to work with LW2, and all those have been redownloaded just before this last attempt.

1/2, this is right after scanning the only thing I could, black market. No option to scan in my region to pass time and gather intel.

If you could introduce a new enemy to fill out a niche in combat what would it be?

>>166440917
>Molting gives a bonus to willpower to all nearby male soldiers.

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>>166441479
2/2, this is hovering over the resistance icon bottom center, it's supposed to take me to W Asia and my scan site, but it pans me over to the north pole where there's nothing.

I'm literally letting one minute pass per second here to see if I can get something else to scan. The black market got me 3 days in, but I'd really like to just fuck this bug up and play a campaign.

>>166440767
>molting out of fire/acid/etc in the span of maybe 30 seconds at most

whoever made this wasn't even trying to keep this game serious

fuck, why not throw something completely retarded in there like breast hypnotism ability

>>2016
>still playing xcum

>>166441595
An enemy that's sole purpose is to suicide by explosion.

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Sneks are cute

>>166441194
>They could also be test tube babies conditioned to obey.
I'm guessing it's all of it. Everything from conventional selective breeding and conditioning to implantation, psychics and gene manipulation.

>>166441735
I agree, should have 3 turn cooldown at least.

So is there a mod that lets you 1) change the location of your hq or 2) select it

My hq is in africa and I hate being surrounded by niggers.

>>166441931
snakes shed their skins like once every few weeks/ months

and they can't do it on-demand anymore than you can grow out your fingernails on demand. I hate how unrealistic this mod is. 3/10 would not download

>>166441658
Why just males? Lesbians exist, and I'd say paramilitary girls lick a lot of carpet.

>>166442023
>Boy I sure do hate niggers.
>I want my base there.

Which reminds me, is there a Moonman voicepack?

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>>166442023
>not having an army of seth efreken mercenerees

>>166441479
>>166441717
Click on west Asia. Not the radio tower, the name.

>>166442187
I didn't choose the location of my HQ, it just started there.

>>166440767
mod name?
EWfag, just picked ayycom 2 for the first time since finishing my initial L/I

>>166441735
It's even less than that, a turn in XCOM during combat is about 10 seconds long if everything is happening at once. Add this >>166442061 and it kind of is a stretch of an ability.

>>166442264
Tried, there's nothing to be clicked. There's supposed to be an icon there, like the black market has.

If I had even a single other location to fly to, I could pass time for missions by just cruising the planet but I can't even do that yet. I can't go back to W Asia.

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>>166441854
Do you find spiders cute too?

>>166441717
You don't have an HQ anymore, that's why it shows north pole. Does the same shit for me.

You spend time by scanning in regions now, there's a radar button next of the title of the region when your avenger is there

>>166442061
I know that. But you can't expect full realism here, they're alien snakes. As much as I hate other M, Ridley molted like 3 times getting bigger in the span of like an hour.

I do agree the ability is too ridiculous to do every turn, which is why I suggested a three turn cooldown at least. Maybe limited to once/twice a deployment.

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>>166442510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dMnnVjo1HU

Here, take a look at 39:11 of Beagle's LW, he has a haven, a radio tower icon, and a generic scan site that he can pass time at.

Here's a zoom in of my West Asia. I have no haven, no radio tower icon, and no scan symbol, nothing to interact with at all.

The game isn't giving me a haven on the geoscape, but I have rebels and a haven in the command room.

>>166442370
You can't click on the name of the region?

>>166440767
Napalm

how do ayys even compare to LWPP soldiers?

>>166442346
Should be playable advent.

>>166442210
This
>start in South Africa
>we Boers now

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>in stealth mode
>pods keep homing in on my soldier's position
It's like splitscreening with your cousin who's beating you in a 1v1 match because he keeps looking at your screen. Fucking bullshit.

>>166442817
Nope. Gonna cook up some dinner while time passes at a crawl on the map, but I don't see much point in it if I can't pinpoint why my havens aren't showing up.

>>166441479
>>166441717
>>166442730
One last cry for help, if anyone with more in depth understanding can help figure out why this is happening I'd appreciate it very much and maybe even order you a pizza with toppings of your choice.

>>166443354
Try deleting your config files?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Xcom/comments/5oxml3/help_please_stuck_after_first_mission_long_war_2/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=comment_header

I wiped my config files in My Docs when I had the black market CTD error in LW2. Also runs a lot smoother now

>>166443670
That's actually the thread I was using to do my own attempts at bugfixing, went through all the steps listed there all the way down to a full reinstall. Still no results after the 11th attempt.

so what does the recruit job do exactly?

>>166443780
I'm going to suggest you uninstall, then restart your computer and reinstall.

I don't know what could be happening but sometimes when a program is being fucky I restart the computer and it gets fixed.

>>166443780
Well fuck
For mine, I nuked the configs except my soldier library, then I wiped the mod folders, then verified the XCOM2 files in Steam.
It was a combo of the CTD plus gameplay mods not turning off even when unselected (Vest / Ammo slots, all the LW packs, etc) and this solved both of them

>>166444024
Finds rebels and rookies
The former are automatically added to a haven in Hiding
The latter are available to recruit normally

I think my next playthrough I'll focus on that first, Intel second (for missions) purely to max out my rebels. Believe it's 13 who can be doing shit at once

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It's even more fucked than I thought, I got a mission in W Asia and flew there to infiltrate, the UI shit the bed entirely and the squad select music is playing now.

It's going to take another 6 hours to do another reinstall, fuck long war for now, I'm defeated and haven't even seen my second alien.

>>166444073
The only thing I haven't done is go to the mod folders themselves and dump those, I thought they redownloaded after my full reinstall, but maybe something stuck around. I'll give that a try when I'm feeling up for it.

If I keep playing well will I eventually see the Avatar Project's progress in full, or will I lose the game randomly forever having partial information?

>>166427094
can this actually happen to operatives in long dong 2?

>>166430319
Confirmed to have more water based PCPs, such as canals and sea walls and supposedly beaches, is the leaks found during the Alien Hunters update is anything to go off of. As well as ADVENT security walls for the slums

>>166444625
Yes

>>166444681
>sea walls
Do want

Anyone else have their guns just randomly gain attachments in LW2?
Like, I got a scope and a suppressor on a gun but it's also got 1 free reload for some reason; another one has +1 to ammo count.

>>166444681
I want to believe

>>166445285
Sounds like a bug to me.

>>166442415
n-no
y-yes

>>166416228
>>166415956
I remember it from the Grizzly Tank's voicelines from RA2

How much does "significant reduction in infiltration" really mean? Because an advanced suppressor I slapped onto a dude only reduced it by 4hours. Sure, it'l stack up if everyones got one on but at the moment it makes me wary of those perks that say they reduce it by a lot.

Why does hunker down work even when you're flanked? Having just 65% to hit on adjecent ayys is retarded.

>>166416664
>not naming that guy John Cena
What the fuck is wrong with you

>>166444625
wait what
ingame pics or this is bullshit

Keep having to restart , a bug in LW2. there is no home base when you start on the geoscape, so i can't progress past the first 3 days (black market)
Anyone else run into this?

>>166445878
I don't know, but I don't really feel the difference too much. I took it on my pure scout Shinobi, but I'm not sure I would in the future.

>>166445940
iirc hunker down was not an ability the AI would use in vanilla, so maybe it was never tested for AI?

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>boot up LW2
>timers still work the same

>>166445967
ecks dee

>>166430507
>Arc Thrower
what the junk LW2 brings back the arc thrower to get ayys?

Sry guys I was been busy hitting gym very often, and not been looking forward to this stuff.

>>166444281
Debugging stuff like this literally makes me physically unhappy and sweaty. I hope you can finally get this sorted out.

>>166444423
You need to discover the Avatar project. You can lose without ever "finding" it.

>>166445746
I think they meant the picture caption.

>>166446265
Yeah, the assault gets it as their secondary mostly for when they are far away. It stuns enemies for a turn and even has some perks you can pick up.

>>166446265
Arc trower can only stun ayys, but the specialist can get an ability that allows him to capture mechs and use them for Heaven defense

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Commander, I have a very serious question to ask you

Are you one of the faceless?

>>166444281

>The only thing I haven't done is go to the mod folders themselves and dump those, I thought they redownloaded after my full reinstall, but maybe something stuck around. I'll give that a try when I'm feeling up for it.

Do that, it might be loading some bullshit from the mods shader caches for some reason and that's why the UI is all messed up. I have no idea if that is a thing that can happen but since you've tried everything else and it hasn't worked might as well give it a try.

>>166445878
Quite signficant in large groups I think, it's a percentage reduction. Managed to cut down my infilitration from 10 to 7 days.

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>>166446021

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>LONG WAR 2 Upcoming Patch Notes
>http://www.pavonisinteractive.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=23646
>Fix bug causing AI to adjust their patrol paths in response to XCOM's movement without any direct knowledge of them. (Default behavior can be re-enabled via config)
LUMP YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD

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>>166446506

>>166446413
Huh for once i rather have assault made him a sword build, sometimes CQC-Sword Hybird build.
>As the Skulljack is not even enough.

https://static1.e621.net/data/85/9d/859d83f7cc749d2c08b81f6a3c8ad597.gif

>>166446756
COMMANDER WATCH OUT

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>shoot a gas tank
>GRAZED: 1

WHAT

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>>166446756

>>166446825
in better quality
https://static1.e621.net/data/db/19/db197ee962ad1e497ba0fe474103721a.webm

>>166446756
can they change their venom into a Aphrodisiac when they bite me, i would be down.

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>>166446842

If I'm playing lw2 without dlc, that means I don't have to fight rulers, right?

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>>166446707
I KNEW IT

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>>166446707
>Set lose mode to 28 days, 24 on legend
>Made liberation sequence missions a little easier to detect
W-Wait. Lump, what are you doing?

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>>166446707
>- Reduced Spark build cost to same as Mechanized Warfare research
>- Increased spark rifle damage from 5.5 - 9 - 12.5 to 7.5 - 10 - 12.5, gave aim and ammo bonii as you upgrade weapons, gave spark more aim at high levels
>- Sparks now get 5 ablative armor HP
>- Adjusted down some PCS trading post costs, Spark gear costs, armor research costs, armor costs
>- Decreased tradecraft infil bonus to .75; Ghostwalker bonus to .98, Covert bonus improved to .95, Reduced Spark infil penalty to 1.34

Is it time?

>>166447392
Is this saying we have less than a month to make our first move against Avatar before they complete it?

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>Full Cover

>>166447563
If I'm reading this correctly, yeah.

>>166447392
>>166447656
Doesn't that just refer to the countdown timer once the AVATAR bar fills up?

>>166447578
Quit and reload

>>166447548

Dreadnaught squad confirmed

>>166447705
Yes, they increased it, it was 12 days before.

Apparently most of these changes are because people thought the game was too unfair. Autist betatesters are not a good measure of gameplay.

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>>166446707
>Increased spark rifle damage from 5.5 - 9 - 12.5 to 7.5 - 10 - 12.5, gave aim and ammo bonii as you upgrade weapons, gave spark more aim at high levels
>Sparks now get 5 ablative armor HP
FUCKING BASED

>>166447923
No, I agree with you. Most of the design decisions are completely and utterly retarded and were held up because the beta testers had intimate knowledge of the game.

Hands up, how many of you failed because of Avatar bullshit because the Liberation missions simply refused to spawn?

How many of you even knew that there even WAS a Liberation mission chain?

Out of those people that did, how many of you knew that there was from an outside source? i.e a Youtuber, which were probably the beta testers?

The mod doesn't have anywhere close to the proper documentation it needs, even though they have the in game encyclopedia, most of this shit still comes from outside sources.

How can we be expected to win when we are bumbling around in the dark with only guess work to go on because the devs didn't think it was needed because the play testers didn't give them the feedback that nothing made sense without talking to the devs.

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>>166447785
You want autist playtesters for good gameplay design and complexity.
You need the 99% retard peasant playtesters for your game to actually be fun/sell.

Your game will suck if you only take into consideration one without the other.

>>166445996
saw someone mention it in some archived thread but the post was deleted

>>166089890

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>>166448071
>SPARKs actually worth something
About time

>Flamethrower - a weapon that was designed to smoke enemy out of entrenched positions
>Flamethrowers in LW2 don't do shit if enemy is behind a chest high plastic sign

Damnit just lost one of my most experienced shinobi because of sextoy panic. Fucker couldn't get to the LZ in time and was captured.

Is there any chance of a rescue mission happening? Also I would have retreated earlier, but the game didn't let me. I assume it's so that you can't call the dropship right next to where the VIP is, but in all honesty you I think you need a way out if the opposition is unexpectedly strong.

>activate 2 pods at the same time because a patrol uncovered my soldiers by flanking just as I was ready to ambush
>get tied down in trench warfare
>another pod runs in
>fuck
>alien reinforcements drop in behind my positions
>FUCK
>meanwhile shinobi is sneaking around to activate the VIPs and run out since if the timer runs out, everyone is dead
>discovered after hacking the door
>shot twice
>tries limping out
>gets psi-panicked right in front of the LZ
The only one who survived was a grenadier who was lucky and survived sprinting through the enemy lines and the worthless 3 resistance contacts who were in the cells. What a massive cock-up.

>>166448272
Indeed, but it feels like half of the gameplay isn't designed very well at all. It's very scitzo, many decisions directly contradict each other.

They wanted to be able to have fights last longer, but kept the timers. Ok, they aren't THAT horrible as long as you know how to engage. But since fights are suppose to last, if you are in a good position, you will want to dig in,right? Well congrats, Advent knows where you are because pods talk to each other and they can hear the gunfire and explosions. Prolonged firefights mean adds incoming and on higher difficulties means that every individual member of a pod might get to take MULTIPLE actions against you.

This makes it so that engaging with pods doesn't work in your favor at all on almost ALL missions in the game except the ones that force you to engage. Combine this with reinforcement drop ins that continue to get worse and worse every time and you want to finish missions as fast as possible even on missions that have no timer, because these reinforcements are another form of timer.

The game at this point doesn't know what it wants to be other then a masochists wet dream. Sure it's possible to beat, but the majority of the game will be spent running from pods in stealth until you get something like a supply raid, or a retaliation.

LW1 was hard, but fair, sometimes bordering on anti fun. LW2 took everything that might have been fun and nerfed it into the ground, with play testers admitting that they looked for things that made the game 'easy', at least in their eyes, and didn't just try to discourage, but actively shat on it.

It's going to take many patches from 'normal' people playing the game to figure out a good balance of bullshit to fun ratio.

>>166448552
Blame Jake for that one. Cover mechanics didn't account for flames being able to go where the oxygen is and targeting is based on tiles, not by projectile.

>>166448834
I've said this before, multiple times, even when xcom 2 first launched

The game needs a completely new initiative system.

the original x-com's turn units were better than the shitshow that both new xcom games have.

Do technicals get a perk to increase flame range?
An increase of 3~ tiles is all that's needed to make these things feel less shit to use.

>>166448552
>>166449013
they will fix it, check the forum

>>166449140
Maybe, but I doubt anyone wants to. Aside from that, the real problem isn't even in the tactical layer, it's the strategy layer bullshit.

They wanted to make it feel like decisions mattered, that taking a mission and then having something come up meant you need to see about making a squad for that one too. But often the missions feel so unrewarding that you just don't bother.

23 intel? The only reason to take it is that it might be the Liberation mission. 3 Haven members? Ok, but when you already have 13 guys, anymore feels like a waste. Enemy Materiel gets you some loot, which is ok.

None of the missions feel nice to take, getting a supply raid is good, but you need to let the force level get higher for that, which is bad for the early game and piddling around trying to just contact regions isn't going to work.

Between liberation mission bullshit, invisible avatar project, Skulljack costing you even MORE time then it did before, while Avatar project raises even faster, with no way to counter it because facilities don't appear until you liberate a region AND the fact that it is possible for facility progress to transfer to the Avatar project permanently, nothing in the game is suppose to be taken slow, which is completely counter to this being a LONG war.

It's just rush rush rush, or get your face punched in. You can't even play a war of attrition since it's possible for the Avatar project to just complete because faculties progress transfers.

What the fuck were they thinking? Nothing about the strategy layer is interesting at all. It's not busy, it's just boring.

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>>166440917
>Would you want a naked snake slithering around the battlefield?
I would PAY to see a naked snake slithering around in public!

>>166449561
The strategic layer requires some actual complexity in it. it's been completely half-assed

there's no actual intel-gathering. You never need to assassinate key political figures, deal with moles, kidnap important aliens/advent/sympathizers, or break out your own. Some of the missions are kind of there, but there's absolutely no meat to them.

And on the resistance front, it's literally you against the entire world. The game doesn't even half-ass an attempt at making it seem like there's more to the resistance than your single squad of 5-6 badasses and their alien freighter. It's fucking stupid. Actual literal wars and engagements should be fought - some you can even get in on if it really matters - like recovering alien tech from a downed UFO in an active warzone.

Basically the game completely fails at making you into a special forces resistance force.

>>166449561
It seems like they were trying to make the strategic game more dynamic, and to be fair they did very slightly, but it's not in a way that actually adds anything to the gameplay unlike LW1 where you could genuinely feel if you were kicking the ayy's asses or if you were really falling behind.

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>>166449746
>there's no actual intel-gathering. You never need to assassinate key political figures, deal with moles, kidnap important aliens/advent/sympathizers, or break out your own. Some of the missions are kind of there, but there's absolutely no meat to them.
>And on the resistance front, it's literally you against the entire world. The game doesn't even half-ass an attempt at making it seem like there's more to the resistance than your single squad of 5-6 badasses and their alien freighter.
What the hell is this. Literally everything you just talked about is in the game.

>assassinate
What are assassinate or capture dark vips
>deal with moles
A mission where you have to track down and kill the faceless draining all your supplies
>kidnap important aliens/advent/sympathizers
Dark vips again
>or break out your own
You can rescure you own soldiers, rescue haven rebels, and other vips

The game doesn't even half-ass an attempt at making it seem like there's more to the resistance than your single squad of 5-6 badasses and their alien freighter
Except you will be running a minimum roster of 20 (I don't know how big it is supposed to be), and your rebel fighter for each regions actually matter and will actually go on missions from time to time, and other missions have rebel soldiers come to assist

Seriously, all these posts make me feel like we are not even playing the same game.

>>166416664
>EXPANSION STATUS: UNKNOWN
>XCOM 2 will eventually have a full expansion released. Currently there are three released dlc.

Nice surprise. Just played at release and came back for lw2. Great that i dont have to wait for a full xcom3 release after the shitty cliffhanger.

question:
LW2 stable/balanced enough? Or should i wait another few months?

>>166450017
Just try and see. As you may have noticed, opinions vary wildly on the current status of LW2. Just don't turn on ironman.

>>166449952
>What the hell is this. Literally everything you just talked about is in the game.

No they aren't

What's in the game are virtually meaningless missions where you gather intel mana, which is used to purchase scientists/some gear.

It doesn't even come CLOSE to making the game feel remotely like you're actually a resistance force, you fucking moron.

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We're pinned down commander!

>>166439640
>Long war 2 is bad because... well... i dont know :( johnnylump fix your game :(

>>166450064
thanks

>>166450109
Do you want to pick up little pieces of paper that have puzzles on them that you need to solve to decode the message? No seriously, what do you want? Were you expecting to find data that gave you the time of day and exact location of a convoy on the world map with coordinates so that you could pass the note along to rebels so that the same exact mission would happens anyway?

It's all abstraction, how else would you do a game like XCOM. It's not like supplies are actually little green boxes you store up in a shed like apples.
You just said you wanted this stuff in the game, and it is in the game. There is no denying that. If you still don't like it, fine, but you can't just cover your ears and close your eyes and expect everyone to take you seriously.

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>use sword on a sectoid
>Dodge: Grazed!
>7 damage
I ain't mad

So since the avatar project is ticking in the background; how the fuck do you get working on it and see the damn progress.
I think I'm 4 months in and I've not seen shit. Am I seriously just supposed to bumblefuck my way around and -hope- it comes to me?

>>166450190
infiltration is a shitty mechanic

the missions themselves suck ass and aren't fun, either you slog through waves of enemies or you play splinter cell and try to fight nothing; it's shit either way

the biggest issues the game has - the turn/initiative system, and the lack of strategy layer complexity and dynamism have been completely ignored

and all criticism of the above is met with, "it's not a problem if you're good at the game"

>>166450443
infiltration is literally just a different kind of fatigue you fucking turbofaggot

>>166450321
>It's all abstraction
It's too much abstraction

Simplified too far, they removed the fun from it.

>>166450413
Yes

>>166450443
>its just a rehash of the first game
>but has all these strategy issues specific to it that LW2 doesn't fix
Make up your mind before you come forth with an argument.

>>166450443
>xcom games have always run fine without relatively simple turn based system
>lol nope, this one can't.
And infilatration is way superior to fatigue, which I still enjoyed in LW

>>166450506
Too much of an abstraction from what? Establish some sort of a baseline, because LW2 is way less abstract than the vanilla games, and I would argue it goes further than LW1. The only game with less abstraction would be something like Apocalypse.

I don't understand why X2 or LW2 suddenly have these standards it "needs" to meet not be shit, it doesn't make any sense.

>>166450506
I'm so sorry nobody wants to appeal to to your autism of adding an unnecessary layer of procedure for fucking resource management.

Does the mod that removes Avatar progress work with LW2 I don't want to fuck around with the invisible bar that is impossible to counter.

>>166450708
>he doesn't want to create a power vacuum by assassinating local leaders followed by destroying infrastructure with bombs and then finally supporting riots and revolt in order to free a region
what are you a pleb

>>166446115
Train officers idiot

>>166446115
>I'm incapable of changing some values in an ini
Everything is fully configurable for a reason you know. Its not like they locked you out of it.

>>166450841

Not the guy you are arguing with, but it sounds like you want to play a grand strategy game, not a turn based tactical game.

I mean yeah, all that would be really neat but expecting that from the vanilla game is retarded, it's never going to happen.

>>166450443
Git gud

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>>166430472
>>166432946

I'm kinda hoping that we get another DLC that deals with Tygan/Gene Mods/Vahlen/NeoEXAL and then, after a reasonable time passes, we get a much bigger expansion pack.

>grenade the lz because an ayy parked near it and I was in a rush
>it was on a roof and a corner of the box fell off
>the LZ is compromised, moving it to the other side of the map when there's 2 turns left in the timer t. Bradford
Thank fuck I'm not playing on ironman.

>>166416664

Have they fixed character pools yet? I want to rescue my VIP's and subject my dark VIPs to waterboarding in my personal dungeon.

>>166451319
>tfw when i first heard about the ability to call in evac i thought you'd have your VTOL float just above the ground and you'd have to get your troops into the back of it manually while maybe having doorgunners shooting shit
>instead it's just a magical time to go zone
rip

>>166451428
Why would you think this?

>>166451568
This was back before we had any footage of XCOM 2 in action and all I had to run off was how things worked in EU/EW and hey, on most missions you actually had the Skyranger there so I just assumed.

>>166451707
Never evac'd in EU/EW, huh?
Can't blame you, Vanilla never required it.

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>resistance recruiter evac mission
>forced to take c-team + 2 rookies
>rookies lag behind the group
>reinforcements intensify between main group + 2 rookies
>AI suddenly decides to split forces to go after both groups
>c-team makes it to evac, lose one VIP on the way
>have to wait 4 turns now, though
>fug
>rookies too far with larger half of ADVENT reinforcements, decide to have them chase through slum district apts
>the luckiest unluckiest pair of rookies ever
>rookie pair successfully run suppressions/resist snek grabs/fire from multiple contacts but are also getting farther from extract
>more reinforcements fall on top of c-team right as they were cleaning up
>there's no way to go out to save the rookies
>rooks have lead ADVENT almost back to starting point and are at 1-2 hp each
>both rookies die just as Firebrand arrives
>have c-team take down 4 more ADVENT on extract

RIP you heroes.

Why are the 2nd tier officer abilities so shit?

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>>166450347

That's OK dude.

You just need to practice your Sword Logic more.

>>166451810
rip

>>166448139
This.

I was finally getting some firepower and turning the fight around and then suddenly just got a game over screen 40-45 missions in.

Was magnificent.

I might not buy Terra Invicta day one after all.

>>166451810

Wait, who was the third guy?

Balanced playable vipers for long war 2 WHEN?

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Concerning modding in general: modding Skyrim I have to consider load order, dependencies with other mods, mod conflicts, wryebashing, etc etc. What do I have to take into account when modding XCOM2?

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I like the new loading screens
Spoopy

>>166452320
One of the resistance recruiter VIPs. I guess they count as "soldiers" if you lose them on these types of missions?

>>166452398
Conflicts. Thats really it.
If a mod conflicts with something or just doesn't work with something it'll usually say it on its page (in Long War 2's case its in the doc in the OP) otherwise is just common sense. Just hit subscribe and go m8.

QUESTION

How does Disable Any Class work with LW2?

I am asking because I want to install some custom classes like the Medic, cause I have autism and can't stand the hacker and the medic being the same class. Also I want to have a gunslinger and other such goodies.

I liked the separation of classes in LW1.

Sniper
Scout

Ranger
Assault

Medic
Grenadier

Support Gunner
Heavy Weapons

>>166452398

>load order

Technically there is load order here too, but no one bothers with it, that said it's pretty straightforward, if 2 mods conflict then the one that loads after overwrites the previous one. I don't think there's even a way to change the load order of mods, maybe with the alternate mod launcher there is. Either way it's really unimportant.

>dependencies

When you get mods on the workshop it tells if you if they need another mod.

>mod conflicts

Very few mods conflict with other mods, and usually it's just UI stuff so mostly minimal stuff.

>wryebashing

None of that insanity.

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>>166452504
>>166452572
That seems deceptively simple. No .ini editing either?

>>166452634
ini editing is optional if you want to tweak things.