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Previous >>166025841

>[Dango Event Rerun]
http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/louy8k/
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20170118.php

>[King Hassan Limited Pickup]
http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/jx9iij/

>News
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaUHCxrWXRo
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php
- New ver - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones&androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
- Upcoming animation update for remaining F/SN Servants

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45

>Grand Time Temple Solomon and General Profiles Translation
http://pastebin.com/yP9nRYZM

>Fate/Grand Order Material Book III
https://www.mediafire.com/?e97zcwaov6noys2

>FL Spreadsheet (last reset: Dec.7)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org

>Materials, experience and event AP simulators
http://fgosimulator.webcrow.jp/

>Alternate servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html
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Neat thread /r /fgog/
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Nursing!
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So why do people get mad that Nasu wanked Nero and made her do no wrong and get circle jerked but turning Altera into a literal OC donut alien who has nothing to do with Attila the Hun at all besides some shitty excuse as to why she should even be considered human, then combining that with about some totally unnecessary and forced back story about how she's above God level, immune to death and all this other shit and is only beatable by Arturia to wank her even more acceptable?

Not to mention Altera effortlessly stomps both Tamamo and Nero when they're effectively grail boosted to origin level by their regalia, meanwhile Altera doesn't even use hers because lol can't have Nasu's new favorite OC wank seem inferior so when she loses its only because she never used the power the other two used even though she could have if she wanted to
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I want mama to train me.
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Xth for best archer.
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Fluffy Caster!
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nth for F/GO backstory TL never.
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What are they so afraid of?
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Best boy.
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Is it wrong that I'm enjoying this event a little?
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>>166054226
They're seeing a BBC for the first time after only seeing tiny white """""""dicks"""""""""""
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Are Tamamo and Nero the only characters with transformations on Extella?
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>>166054221
too fluffy
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lewd tamamo
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It exists!
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I want to gently eat dangos out of my daughter's naked body, but I'd be too busy licking her to care about the dangos
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>>166054447
I want to perform lewd activities with this fox.
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>>166054186
Nero is presented as legitimate. They wanked her, made her do no wrong, while presenting this as undeniably how she was in canon, then made every other Roman Servant revolve around her existence.

Altera isn't presented the same way. They've gone beyond full retard with her, and that works in its own strange way. Beyond that, there's no Servant so far that has been twisted to have their existence revolve solely around Altera.
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>>166054186
>who has nothing to do with Attila the Hun at all
You were right about nero, but everything you said about atilla is wrong

She still did everything atilla did, effectively she is atilla. It's not that she had nothing to do with it. It's just she added on some alien stuff as well

Everything you can think about atilla, Nasuverse atilla also did. But imagine if there was an atilla prequel story that revealed he was an alien as well for no reason
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>>166054447
>I'll never sleep in the same bed with Tamamo
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>>166054545
What did you do teach me the trick
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>>166054619
>canon
Actual history, I mean. I've been in these threads too long.
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>>166054385
Depends if you're enjoying it for the right reason, like this >>166054545
>Tfw started off with zero hearts and used up a good dozen on ascensions but still have a decent stock with more to come
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>Extella outright calls Tamamo a sub servant
The hate group isn't mad about Nero as much as it's mad about this, isn't it
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>>166054870
They even had Artoria shill her.

Kinda
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>>166054870
Read extella zero

Nasu said there are unseen version s of extella zero, like one where Tamamo was the main. But extella itself is based on nero route.
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Anyone have that screencap detailing Andersen's wank journal?
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>>166054870
Not even a Tamamofag but Nero being wanked to hell and having 2 routes is literally shoving a shit character down my throat
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>>166054870
We're more upset how they're literally forcing a "meh" character down our throats.
Heck they actually made her character worse since her Debut.
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>>166054186
Time softens the blow.
We had like a year since her introduction til Extella, knowing full well that she wasn't really human, heck, Type-Mars was a common guess back then.

Plus, it's quick to judge if people are mad or not, at least here, spoilers or not most poeple will form their opinion adter playing the game, which's been out for a few days.

And at the end of the day, the Altera in GO is Heroic Spirit Attila the Hun, Stheno made it clear, she's not Sefar, she's the warrior that lead the huns, the Extella backstory doesn't affect her.
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>>166054870
Tamamofags have no room to complain when they get two happy endings
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>>166054870
You can not care about tamamo, and still find nero terrible
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>>166055202
mfw despite being the least wanked gets the best ending(s).
She's the real winner.
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>>166054870
Nero's hatedom will hate on anything Nero-related. The fact that she is shoved down everyone's throats only makes it worse.
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>>166055051
>>166055145
Isn't Nero really only a problem in FGO, though?
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>>166055192
>spoilers or not most poeple will form their opinion adter playing the game
Do you actually believe this?
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>>166055192
>And at the end of the day, the Altera in GO is Heroic Spirit Attila the Hun, Stheno made it clear, she's not Sefar, she's the warrior that lead the huns, the Extella backstory doesn't affect her.
She's not sefar, in the same way tamamo isn't ammy, but the backstory does still effect her and is canon. She is and always was still atilla the Hun despite people shitposting, but she's also alien
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>>166055352
Not anymore.
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>>166055352
>okay-ish in Extra
>obnoxious in CCC
>unbearable in Septem
>mfw i have no face in extella
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>>166054784
I'm just really fucking new

although I do need claws and hearts, plus the event shop music is really nice
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How are you supposed to solo missions again? I want to take King Hassan alone on something but am I really not allowed to do that? Do I need to fill my first three slots?
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>>166055352
Holy heck no, extella makes it so much worse.
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>>166055352
Ever since FGO Extra in general became REALLY Nero centric.
Between the Nero getting a bunch of events, being the "face" of the anime, being the face of Extella, the whole Septem incident, the whole Extella incident. and who the fuck knows what'll happen next.
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I want to be Altera's prisoner!
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>>166055472
>heck
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>166055445
Bring two level 1 Bronze and let them die.
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>>166055445
Just put someone like Spartacus with a taunt CE and a Mashu support and make them die as soon as possible
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>>166055445
Take a level one Benkei.Use taunt.Let him die.
Take a low level support.Preferbly with taunt.Let them die.

You're left with just your spooky skeleton.
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>>166055352
Extra was her best showing. Extremely likable in my opinion.

CCC was when it started going bad with that dumbass bride costume and ruining of the character.
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>>166055638
>not switching from her stupid dress to bride in Extella
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>CCC unconstrained classless Gilgamesh
Karna has a good shot at winning this one if he just had a decent master.

>Berserker Heracles
Karna definitely wins this one. He could probably OHKO with Vasavi Shakti, which would be super effective against Heracles because of divinity.

>Ozymandiaz
A terrible match-up for Ozzy. Karna is completely immune to sun-based attacks and his status of becoming a deity after his death means any of the temple's authorities are useless. And on top of that Karna still has Vasavi Shakti. Karna wins without breaking a sweat.

>Achilles
Karna is only a step slower and on top of that he has much more firepower thanks to prana burst and his astras. He's more skilled, more levelheaded, and has a higher physical performance capacity. Achilles has the shield, but Vasavi Shakti trumps that.

>Quetzalcoatl
Quetz is a divine spirit. Vasavi Shakti kills her easily.

>Medb
Karna has an iron will and Discernment of the Poor to help him resist Medb's charms. Without those, Karna makes short work of the Queen of Connacht.

>Merlin
Karna has B-rank magic resistance and Kavancha & Kundala to reduce magical attacks even further. And DotP would help him see through Merlin's illusions. Karna wins yet again.

>Cu Alter
Karna was already shown to nearly kill him despite attacking while mortally wounded. There is no doubt that Karna would come out the victor of any pitched battle.

>Legend of Dracula-empowered Vlad
LoD Vlad has all the classical weaknesses of a vampire and a conceptual disadvantage against Karna due to being a monster fighting a hero and a creature weak to sunlight and flame fighting a sun deity. Karna matches him in speed and has perfect counters, though Higashide forgot that last part in Apocrypha. Vlad might die just from biting Karna since he'd be biting a solar spirit.

>Scathach
Plain unfair. Karna has her beat in firepower, skill, and bodily performance. She couldn't even beat Cu Alter. Karna would win.
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>>166055638
I can agree with this.
She was fine in Extra, she was a shitty emperor who regret her mistakes but was still a likeable, but then they started removing the fact that she was a bad emperor and a huge part of her character vanishes.
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>>166055352
>liked Nero in Extra
>Septem made me like her less
>now can't stand her
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>>166055202
doesn't soul survive in nero's ending as well?
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>>166055752
>she was a shitty emperor who regret her mistakes
Extella at least makes note of this almost right at the start of the game
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>>166055708
3/10, if only for the effort you put into it. Have an appropriate image.
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>>166055708
>this much falseflagging
Have your response here.
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>>166055708
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>>166055708
Imagine being THIS autistic
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>>166055708
Karnafags, everyone.
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>>166055708
So basically only shit like Buddha and KH can beat him?
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>>166055708
If you're going to falseflag
atleast use an image you heathen.
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what if extella was a dw:empires type game
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>>166055821
Calling that surviving is questionable
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>>166055706
Bride costume is retarded. Thats why I prefer regular Nero a million times more than Bride in FGO.

>>166055752
Precisely this. I don't dislike her immensely, but she used to be my favorite Saber character. I don't understand why they would do what they did to her. It makes no sense.
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Guan Yu 5* when lads?
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>>166056109
Needs more characters first
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@166055708
Shit bait, shit falseflagging, shit everything. Might as well kill yourself son.
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>>166055708
>can't kill Jabberwocky
>instant killed King Hassan
>slower than Dantes
>beaten by Nero
>can't beat Tiamat
>can't solo Goetia
>can't beat plot armor
It is shit.
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You wouldn't burn Siegfried would you?
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>>166055950
>>166055953
>>166055969
>>166056001
>>166056008
>>166056038
>>166056108
Easiest (You) of my life. Have one back.
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>>166056317
No, but I burned Ana.
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>>166056330
Imagine
being
THIS
autistic
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>>166056330
>I was only pretending
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>>166056330
You earned it man.
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>>166056330
>Writing a fucking wall of text
>Easiest
Here's one more anon
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I love Medb even though im not a strong warrior even though she has shit personality even though im average I want to be by her side
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>>166056398
>burning chuuni cute loli
Shit taste.
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Post Tamamo
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>>166056330
>Easiest
>had to write walls of text and intersperse legitimate points with bullshit to make it more believable

Go on, indulge yourself.
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>>166056570
Try harder
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>>166056598
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>>166056598
Tamamo
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I need my bro
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>>166056694
I said Tamamo not Liz
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>>166056598
Tamamo
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Bond with me, Jimmy

post em
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>Finish Nero's part of Extella
I NEED PICTURES
PICTURES OF UMU

Broken Nero hurts too much
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>>166055708
>B-rank magic resistance
>Useful against a guy who can use True Magic
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>>166055752
>she was a shitty emperor
Extra Materials notes that she was a talented administrator and diplomat who expertly navigated the Roman political scene and who enjoyed immense popularity with foreign peoples and with the vast majority of citizens of Rome. Only the Roman senate and the small number of people in the highest caste had anything bad to say about her. The bad press she gets is due to a concerted effort to discredit her, even though she was both competent and beloved in her time as emperor.
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>>166056598
Tamamo
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I guess I'm the opposite of everyone that hates Nero because of Extella. I went into it neutral on Nero and now I really like her.
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I'm sad
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>>166056881
Dumb shit in Extella aside, I still love Nero in the Extra series. I only hate her in GO for ruining Romulus and Caesar. Fuck the bride shit, though.
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>>166057028
What i recall is that she was well loved by the people because she did stupid things that would beneit the lower classes. things like huge public panquets and basically no-taxes.
Things that would get the common man to love you but the higher ups in the government to despise you.
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>>166056881
>turns down sex with Hakuno in the bath because she wants to wait until everything is taken care of
>everything is ruined because Archimedes couldn't just solve his linear equations like a good goyim

I would say it wasn't fair if the ending didn't exist
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>>166057048
I like Tamamo and Nero.
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>>166057028
This is some hardcore dindu if true
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>>166057048
The wank is stupid as fuck, is the general consensus.

But Nero as a character herself has always been charming as fuck and really well received despite/because of her Saber clone status. Extella putting focus back on her just reminded a lot of people how entertaining she is when she's not surrounded by people falsely telling her she's perfect and flawless, like her GO showings.
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How come Lancelot has a birthday line unlocked even though I've only had him for two days? My birthday's next month.
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>>166057180
Part of her character in Extra was that she did shit like that to try and show the populace that she loved them, but had a really twisted idea of what love was due to her upbringing. Then she died, broken and alone, because she failed at letting the people know.

It's a pretty big deviation from who the historical Nero was, but I can appreciate it for what it is. Her telling Hakuno about her final moments before killing herself were pretty sad.
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>Will NTR you in a instant if she finds out it is what turns you on

Best Wife.
Kiyohime would be open to any weird shit you are into in the bedroom
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>>166057237
As much as I fucking abhor giving any credit to Sakurai and her Nero wank, this is kind of, sort of, almost justified.

The real-life Nero is heavily suspected by historians and experts on ancient Rome to have actually been a very popular and competent emperor, and all the bad press about him that we see today was because of people from during his fall/after his death trying to discredit him and prop up their own families and alliances.
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>>166054186
Don't top Servants stomp her even without Regalia?
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>>166057429
Popular sure
Competent not really,like at all
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>it begins. There's no stopping it. I've opened Pandora's box

My sides
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>>166057420
Well, looks like I'm grailing her.
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Which servant would give the best head?
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>>166057429
popular=/=competent.
You can be popular by giving out alot of free shit, but that won't make you competent.
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>extremely slowpoke here trying to trace back the whole fate universe
>watching the 3rd holy grail war
>tons of children got murdered in absolute fear
>Toki's wife got strangled-raped in front of the body of her dead husband
>Ill got her neck snapped twice
>sakura was indeed raped by worms and part of her virginity was given to very guy trying to save her
>saber is just a little girl in front of true kings
holy fucking shit this ride sure is fucking wild
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>>166057296
The auto unlock
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>>166054062
King and Nurse are cute!
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>>166057694
DUDE
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>>166054371
That's mouth's perfect for sticking a dick in it.
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>>166057694
>3rd holy grail war
Shows how much attention you're paying to it,anon
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>>166057694
>raped
I'm pretty sure that didn't happen
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>>166057574
>>166057683
I should reign myself in a bit, when I say competent I mean "didn't burn the Empire down."

Shit like playing a tune to the burning of Rome and locking people into concert halls is widely agreed to be total bunk. He wasn't some paragon of progress that made a golden age, but he wasn't much of a tyrant and he wasn't any real detriment despite his alleged shit tastes.
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>>166057694
>saber is just a little girl in front of true kings
Best part desu even if the three of them were shit kings.
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>>166057694
Kariya did nothing wrong
Lancelot did nothing wrong
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>>166054385
What event? It doesn't even have a map. Might as well be dailies.
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>>166057757
I actually have both of these on the same account
I haven't leveled Nursery Rhyme at all despite having rolled 2 of her
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>>166057429
No, you people that say this makes sense are missing some steps inbetween. Its like when people realize Edison fucked over Tesla, so they go way too far the other way with it, when there can be middle ground.

She was a shitty ruler who made very poor decisions, however the populace liked her, upper class hated her, but still did some kinda shitty things.

Learning about someone who was historically a monster doesn't mean they must be a saint, just because they weren't as monster as they thought. Its not justified to basically make her out to be the golden greatest emperor to ever live like this.

In original Extra she was what she needed to be in order to make sense. A shitty emperor, but her heart was in the right place.
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>>166057429
>The real-life Nero is heavily suspected by historians and experts on ancient Rome to have actually been a very popular and competent emperor
I think what you meant to say was that many academicians generally agree that Nero was less unpopular and incompetent than the accounts of people like Suetonius and Cassius Dio would suggest. If you prodded any university professor worth their salary they'd tell you the idea of Nero as a popular ruler is speculation based on more or less convincing evidence, but speculation just the same.
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>>166054415
Yes, because fuck the rest of the cast.
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>>166054447
Made for bullying.
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I want to imagine Lily Jeanne, NR, Jack doing something like this trying to sneak into the adult Servants only area of Chaldea where they all get drunk.
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>>166057757
Now that I realize it, King Hassan could play the role of Queen of Hearts to Nursery Rhyme's Alice.
It would be cute.
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>>166057921
>>166057896
I direct you to >>166057831
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kek I love how Gawain struggles every time he has to address Nero with respect in Extella
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>>166054447
When she wrapped her legs over yours I instantly got a boner. Holy shit Tamamo really wants your dick.
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>>166057831
Fair enough senpai.
She wasn't terrible but she wasn't amazing.
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>>166057879
Same, but it's the opposite for me. I don't have enough exp to finish leveling my King Hassan.
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>>166057420
>Can be tricked into cheating on you in an instant if someone tells her you're into that

Shittiest waifu ever
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>>166057959
Best family
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>>166054562
>not sticking the dango's into her pussy and eating them one by one covered with her juices

C'mon Jackfag step it the fuck up.
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>>166057829
Actually..
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>Every other sentence Hakuno says is flirting with Nero
This is nice
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>>166058095
>"I fucking hate all of them"
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>>166058064
>Only posting one half of the best shittalking in the game.
Literally a crime.
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>>166058197
Not really
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>>166058150
Is his penis in his knee?
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>>166058201
Wow dumb, clumsy, and a loose whore. Sakura is literal garbage who has nothing going for her.
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>>166057237
He's getting it from this.

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Playable_Saber_(Fate/Extra)#References

>inb4 TM wiki
It's easier to just link the reference section instead of digging up the exact same text from BL.
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>>166058201
>This is the person who beat Gil and Zouken...
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>>166054186
Honestly, I think that Solomon is how you should legitimately present someone beyond the scale of power without compromising anything. In case of Arturia and Gilgamesh, they were first introduced as fucking jobbers and then powercrept and wanked which is what sometimes causes a backslash (see Iskandar for the same thing only minor scale). Altera is the opposite level of retard. Does anyone gives a fuck about her character when she's there to induced a fake sense of pity due to shallow waifu antics and the most retarded backstory divorced to her being Attila. She's just literally powerwank: the character without any substance.

Whether you like Roman or not, the model Nasu did with him was the most effective and how he should do on other characters. Solomon was established by other works prior as a mysterious super relevant lore figure (notable Apoc and Garden of Avalon), but what Nasu did was to introduce Solomon first as a character completely divorced of his powers, as Roman, make the fanbase get to know him, get to like him (or not) and then reveal the Solomon thing. The powerwank was only secondary to the character and he had a legitimately heartfelt sacrifice (so far...) and farewell scene which seemed to mean something unlike Altera's forced 'death' which later turns her into a loli (just to complete the shallow waifubait fanservice). Nasu worried about the character and the characterization before the powerlevel shit without compromising the powerlevel, in fact it appears better because he's not shoved down our throats. I think this is what Nasu needed to do more with other powerful characters.
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>>166057118
He'll always be the true best ROMA in our hearts.

And in actual history.
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>>166056598
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>>166058201
>Not reading HF manga as I am holding back for the movies
>Click this without thinking
>They drew this scene

HNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG
I was not ready for this today. I would lose it if it is animated.
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>>166054646
we hear way more about what she did as an Ayylmao

we know fucking nothing about her life as attila which is why she's a shit character
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>>166058274
She can cook and do housework.
But then again, Shirou is at least twice as good at those things than her.
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>>166058260
SymboliSm, open your mind.
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>behold the fourth general, a servant who wields twin blades despite being an Archer.
>also I don't know his name
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Finally got the game

There's a lot in the Extra materials. Has anyone bothered to read through it all yet? There's an entry for Romulus, and Nightingale among others.

Such a missed opportunity if there really aren't any DLC characters eventually.
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>>166058438
Read the Attila wiki article then
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>>166058446
I don't think you understand what "symbolism" means
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>>166058150
Symbolism =/= things actually happening. You'd have to be blind to miss the rape symbolism there, but he didn't actually rape her.
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>>166058095
>Immortal grumpy old man for a king.
>Hates all of his disciples.
>Will kill them on sight for being too pathetic.
>Still get along and work together better than KotR.
Hassans are the best. Camelot was a mistake.
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>>166057604
I doubt he got any sleep with her singing all night.
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>>166054870
I don't even like Tamamo that much but my autism gets triggered hard by the fact that she has so less screen time in the last route, they should have had the same amount of screen time as they were previous extra heroines. Or the final route should have just been Altera since it's her game. I really liked the story but this is a decision that annoyed me to hell
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>>166058517
Extella was supposed to come out before GO, but got massively delayed. It sold well enough that Nasu said there'll be more, so there'll probably be GO originals in that.
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>>166058673
It gets worse when you realise her team won the first poll and she won the poll between her and Nero.

>inb4 t-team and w-wife

They're popularity polls more than anything. That Crunchyroll shit proved people will vote for what they like over what deserves it.
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>>166058537
>>166058619
Damn you guys are boring. You probably missed half of the story with that mindset, no wonder why you're only interested in posting lewds. Anyway I'm done.
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>>166058684
Nightingale was supposedly a CCC character who originally got cut. Don't know about Romulus, but I think he was in the planning phases when they started Extella since he was mentioned here.

Robin Hood was also in the planning phases of this game at one point

Seems a lot of guys were cut though?
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>>166058620
> one has crippling MPD
> one is massively affection starved
> one is in it for the money and fame
> the boss is so much a zealot he barely has a will of his own and just kills what bells tell him to
> still a more functional group than KOTR
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>>166058673
>gets the worst outcomes in her own game
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>people complaining about the flavor of the month waifu wank
>don't complain on how nasu is still pulling shit out of his ass to wank Gilgamesh and make him keep up with better characters
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>>166058881
At least Atilla was daughter-zoned in the end, so Guda isn't cucked.

Atilla's wish from FGO also came true. She wished she could start over in life to be something else other than a destroyer, just to see what it was like to be something different.
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>>166058834
I'd guess Romulus got referenced because they were working on GO around the same time and Romulus has some tenuous relation to at lest two major characters in Extella.
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>>166057949
Coming to think of it, does Rider wear contact lenses in all her other scenes?
She never wears the blindfold in Tamamo's castle.
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>>166056108
I love Mordred.
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Post Taiga.
Please.
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>>166057949
I hate her lips on extella
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>>166059000
More like the rest of the characters have to keep up with him. Gilgamesh has always been at the top.
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>>166059009
His entry is near the last page of materials

It pretty much just says he would be a very high ranking servant if summoned, and says that evidence of him can be seen in this story when Nero shouts the name of his Noble Phantasm once.
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>>166058095
Asako has some nice sweater bunnies.
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>>166058673
>the final route should have just been Altera since it's her game
Nuh-uh.
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Neat, now I can stop using him
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>>166058878
I can't wait for other Hassans to get in with all their personal baggage and still be better than KotR.
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>>166059120
No, you get Redman.
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>>166054062
I want to give candies to Nursery Rhyme.
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>>166059326
>not giving her your semen
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>>166059326
What then?
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>>166059206
>fully ascended Saber Gilles
You bastard, he's been through enough already.
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>>166058834
It probably wasn't her intended role, but I like the idea of Nightingale being Hakuno's unknown Berserker from Gil's route.

>>166059009
Altera does go around waving his dad's sword.
Caesar is also brought up, just for reference's sake.
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>>166059035
Same
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I should always be doing the final 40AP free quest to farm the event right? I'm not sure what the point of the second to last 40AP quest is for .
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>>166054062
>>166057757
>>166057994
>>166057879
I just rolled both within the last week.

Maxed king but do not have enough exp for all of my casters.

Least I can get some skill gems while i get these hearts
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>>166058813
To be fair, the team poll was made when only Tamamo had her full team revealed, and the poll was made so late in developement it wasn't going to change much.
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>>166059370
That comes after I befriend her with candies and train her to keep secrets. Stop being so impatient.

>>166059386
I befriend her.
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>>166055145
by meh character you mean Altera right
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>>166059540
Obviously not
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>>166059251
speaking of f/sf, i like the idea of zealot getting introduced and having fangasms every time king hassan does anything
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>>166059613
Like killing her?
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>>166059456
>I want to farm white dango
40(2)AP drops white dango only. This is the best place there is to get white dango.
>I want to farm gold dango
40(1)AP drops both gold and white dango. This is the best place there is to get gold dango.
>I want to farm everything plus hearts
40(1)AP. Drops a decent amount of gold and white dango, although not as good as 40(2)AP.

Remember you can exchange white dango for gold dango and viceversa at a 2:1 rate, so there is no wasted dango.

>Which CE should I use to maximize drops?
LB Lunar Bathing Goddess > Lunar Bathing Goddess = LB Moonlight Fest CE > Moonlight Fest > LB Mooncell > Mooncell
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Chen Gong gets an entry in materials

It mentions "By the way, in Lu Bu's story, you'll finally get to see what drive's Lu Bu's mysterious thought patterns".
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Does every single Servant (except Mashu) have a bond CE?
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>>166059460
You can always buy those exp cards after you are done with materials.
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>>166059397
Nightingale's entry mostly mentions "This is the inspiration for Atilla's nurse costume" and then keeps talking about how atilla looks in a nurse costume for the rest of the entry.
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>>166059389
Gilles can take it. I'm tempted to give him a couple Grails, actually
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>>166058201
BASED TASK OHNA HE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON

>ufotable will remove this scene
thank god we have this manga because so far it has been pretty damn good!
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>>166059653
Oh shit, thanks for the detailed info anon
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>>166059651
why?
her only character trait is being a religious zealot who is not really a hassan, king kills the hassans who betray the faith.
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>>166059389
Man his armor is ugly.
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>>166059902
>copied all these Zabaniyas but couldn't develop her own
She's dead.
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>>166059802
>yfw sexy nurse is canon
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I like Liz's song in Extella
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>>166059389
>Saber Gilles and Lancer Kiyo don't have BBBAQ decks
>but Musameme does
What went wrong?
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>>166059607
she's more boring and more wanked than nero
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>finally stopped being top stupid to emulate Fate/Extra on my PSP
Here I come, EMIYA!
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>>166060024
If more Hassan's get in I just want to see more lines of him roasting them without mercy.
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>vs. Finn MacCool and Diarmuid
>bring Void Shiki
>instant death procs on Diarmuid
Poor Diarmuid, he really can't catch a break
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>>166057420
Holy fuck, already art on pixiv.
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>>166058446
OPEN YOUR THIRD EYE
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>>166060224
>top stupid
dumb chinkposter
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>>166055480
>Ever since FGO Extra in general became REALLY Nero centric.
Since FGO? Nero has always been the face of Extra.
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>>166058316
And this is the creature that needs seven counter guardians backed up with infinite mana to just keep in check. What's your point?
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Apparently Cu gets along well with Archimedes, if he knew Archimedes plotted against humanity he would accept it quite easily believing this to be something he would do. As a warrior he respects his cruel side.

Cu joined Nero's side since it was interesting, but went "Ah shit" on the inside when he realized Archer was also there. Seems he really doesn't enjoy being around him.
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>>166060251
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>>166060251
I bet this was Riyo's goal all along.
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still not asking for it
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>>166059902
>Nameless zealot. What hast thou begotten with the miracles of Hassan-i Sabah? Proof of thy own blindness? Fool. Bring me thy head.
And then she dies.
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>>166060452
twitter link?
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>>166059134
they're better in that picture than half the lips wada draws.
I swear the way she draws the mouth is make or break for half of her designs
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>>166057420
>Non cannon dumb female master is a literal cuckhold

How can femmaster fags ever recover
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>>166060452
> the historical figure most known for getting raped by romans both figuratively and literally is now getting a surge of porn drawings due to a japanese mobile game
>>
That's odd, in materials when it notes that Gilgamesh ripping between the barrier of the far side and descending into SERAPH on his own is a skill of some certain class.

It seems to have the name of that class typed out, and then crossed out. I can recognize a few letters, but not most of it.
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>>166060452
>that anatomy
>nigger lips

Disgusting
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>>166060586
Recover from what? I like NTR
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>>166060167
I think the idea is that he's supposed to charge his NP faster thanks to QAABB. Or more likely it's just DW being a bunch of lazy fucks who gave every launch Saber the same deck.
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>>166060586
Using female master is already a sign of mental illness
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>>166060586
>malemaster doesn't constantly get NTRd
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>>166060653
>having fuller lips due to being a mature woman =Nigger lips
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>>166060549
She can kill his ass faster.
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>>166060737
>j-just fuller lips

Those lips can block out the fucking sun
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What did he mean by this? Doujins soon?
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>>166060376
Seems that Archer also knew or suspect that Archimedes was full of shit too as hinted in Archers side story.
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>>166060586
Oh my here comes the vanillababby.
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Would DW go bankrupt if they let us reply old missions?
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>>166060848
>disliking NTR is the same as vanillababby

Melvin is a literal cuckhold confirmed
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>>166060376
>Cu joined Nero's side since it was interesting, but went "Ah shit" on the inside when he realized Archer was also there.
Top bantz.
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>>166060817
Doujins with Drake, Boudica and Nightingale?
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>all this new porn
>still no porn of Medea
Kill me
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>Gawain appears in the legends of King Arthur as an illustrious knight, rivaled only by "Lancelot of the Lake"

What did materials mean by this?
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>>166060817
>Doujins soon?
Maybe. We should get some fanart at least.
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>>166060790
>being this autistic about bigger lips
lmao
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>>166060167
Gilles's gimmick is to NPAA on one turn, then NPBB the next to get 3x damage on his Busters, especially since he permanently gets +50% Buster up
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>>166055562
What's the endearing appeal of Nobu besides looking like a Hidari character and her accent?
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>>166060987
T. Nigger
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>>166060949
RIVALLED
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Who's the shit kings now losers
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>>166060936
He'll also add Quetz, there is no way he won't like her after reading the Babylon chapter.
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>>166061012
I'd rather just BBC
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>>166061012
>gilles has a self buster of 5 turns

They added that with the strengthening didn't they?

5* Strengthening when lads?
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>>166060890
Ooh, did I hit the nail on the head? Why bother replying?
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>>166059613
That sound cute as fuck
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>>166060452
She deserves better
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>>166060940
I know the struggle.

>>166061078
Jason is too easy to bully.
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>>166061046
>Has no argument
>responds with nigger
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>>166060549
To be fair she's stronger than most other hassans and has more faith than most other hassans.

It's just her presence concealment that is kinda shit for being an assassin.
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>>166060940
Make new Medea doujins before she blows everyone up!
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>>166061012
>he permanently gets +50% Buster up
That really is crazy. Looking at it, just with his own buffs at max he will get +52% on buster cards and another +100% attack with his NP. And he can charge that NP fairly fast as well. It's kinda crazy.
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>>166060578
https://twitter.com/3p98touhu/status/821025297147404288
>>
Apparently Liz is considered an Anti-Hero fully, and Iskandar really is about as strong as Altera somehow. Though they give some excuse that he saw the fight as a warm up since he wasn't used to fighting on SERAPH. The Mooncell summoned him as a high class servant to take her down after sensing her existence.

I don't know if he just has a shit time showing he's apparently strong normally then, because he didn't do much in Zero.

I suppose that means Avenger Liz is possible as well.
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I tried making altera

What do you guys think?
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>>166061314
It's actually not, because NPAA with max lv Golden Rule doesn't get him 100% without crits
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>>166061451
> bondage tan as tattoos
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>>166061451
That face but otherwise would cum on her stomach.
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>>166061451
Lips looks weird, I would comment on her hair too but that kind of hair probably isn't something you can make on this game
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>>166061451
Kill yourself.
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>You'll never be raped by sneks
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>>166061107
>Possible Quetz doujins.
This is fine.
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Oh shit got a second CE drop. Would love to get a 3rd and spend the dango on QP.
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>>166061451
Her eyes are the worst part but the rest is also a mess.
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>>166061396
The whole deal with DUDE is sketchy as fuck. It's like they know he can't compete with them but still shoehorn him in and give excuses when he jobs.
>>
Waifu cat or baraki?

Only 5* is king h
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>>166061396
>Iskandar really is about as strong as Altera somehow
This is just fucking retarded.
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>>166061698
Cat for hands, Banana for everything else.
>>
Data book mentions that a Roman soldier was tasked to bring Archimedies back safely and not harm him when a city was being destroyed. Archimedies was like "Fuck off, don't step on my diagrams. I've got work to do still". The soldier flew into a rage and killed him.

I know this is apparently real life, but these motivations don't make sense.
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>>166060646
Beast.
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>>166060936
He'll definitely do some public use/prostitution shit with Nightingale, he did an original work recently of public sex workers who are used to relieve the stress of the public
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>>166061550
I'm already dead inside

>>166061543
Well I tried something with a bit more off shape but see through like her veil is

Im sure altera has short hair

>>166061641
I got this card off jap DB and made some progressive changes
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>>166061812
You say that, its certainly a fan theory. In the data book the class seems to start with "S".
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>>166061802
If you were from glorious ROMA and some backwater Grecofag were acting like you were some nobody and bigtiming your general you would be pissed too
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>>166061936
Shitposter Class obviously.
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>>166061996
>Sicily
>Backwater

its like fucking next door

Rome shit I swear, stop being bigots and tear down this wall already so I can immigrate to Londinium
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>>166061909
Change does eyes please.
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>>166058673
It was always Nero's game

She appears on the startup icon for the game and is the starting route

Stay ass blasted
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>>166061291
Someone better do it. She looks serious.
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>>166061396
>complaining that Alexander the great is a strong servant
>but you don't complain when fucking Nero who isn't on his level is
>or Jeanne D'Arc

The dude meme posting got in your brain. Alexander has a lot of fucking ridiculous lore that Nasu has been ignoring, including one he's Solomon's incarnation and can control his demons. He underpowercrept so far.
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>>166060229
are there tls of these lines?

>>166060549
her zibanya is the ability to copy others though isnt it?

>>166061283
so is kings
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>>166061591
can we go more snek?
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>>166062113
Well I was using HUKE's art as base before so it looks pretty bad
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>tfw had a dream about titty saber mounting me
>I tried to push her off of me
>she gives an autistic glare
>Holds my arms down
>rides me again
>i couldnt move

Save me /fgog/
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>>166060817
pls no more fate anal,the gatcha is already buttfucking me
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>>166061396
>because he didn't do much in Zero.
That's because Urobutchi cared about the characters instead of their powerlevels unlike Nasu does. Because Extella was about LOOK HOW POWERFUL IS THIS CHARACTER than their personalities and characterization.
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>>166062204
Nero was only strong due to regalia she is dogshit tier and can't beat anyone without it

Altera shit on her even without regalia of her own
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>>166062204
>>but you don't complain when fucking Nero who isn't on his level is
Only five servants in Extella are called top servants. Gilgamesh, Iskandar, Jeanne, Gilgamesh, Atilla, and Arthuria.

The others either have some cheat device to temporarily raise their level, or are just within normal tiers.
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>>166062251
TOO THICC
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>>166062204
>DUDEposters seriously believe this
Just because some sluts are overwanked it doesn't mean your bro isn't too
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>>166062204
>he's Solomon's incarnation and can control his demons
Now I understand why he can be summoned as a Caster too.
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>>166062306
>>I tried to push her off of me
Fucking die
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>>166062251
So she's the only Avenger that's not a meme (yet) right?
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>>166062306
>I tried to push her off of me
???
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>>166061396
>I suppose that means Avenger Liz is possible as well.

Wrong
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>>166062359
It's funny because the only two who belong there are Arturia and Gilgamesh but hey Nasuwank takes over

just proves that there is no reason for 99% of servants in this franchise to exist when they are shit tier irrelevant, but at least Nasu finally abandoned the compatibility meme and proved he's all about power levels and always has been
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>>166062351
>Because Extella was about LOOK HOW POWERFUL IS THIS CHARACTER than their personalities and characterization.
It really wasn't about that though

Atilla was strong, for a number of reasons, but her plot didn't really revolve around that. Nero and Tamamo weren't really strong but just had Regalia. There were moments where they had to overcome some strong leader on the enemy side, but that wasn't necessarily power levels.
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>>166061909
>when you got downs and your bf still beats you
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>>166062463
>Wrong
Wrong
Enjoy you Avenger Liz (Eggplant) in halloween
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Can Zealot use several Zabaniyas at the same time not just in quick succession like when she killed Jester and his buddies?
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>>166062414
>>166062460
I tried to be the one in charge but she overpowered me and took her long sweet time milking me and for whatever reason she put collar on me
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>>166062306
>I tried to push her off of me
gays not welcome.jpg goes here
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>>166062359
No karna? but well he wasnt in atilla team.

>>166062561
>abandoned the compatibility meme

You say this when people beated attila only thanks to bullshit reasons?
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>>166062690
Probably. What'd be the point of using more than one at a time against cannon fodder, though?
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>not wanting to have sex with a cow makes you gay
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>>166062586
anon the moment Altera showed up they spend the next 4 scenes wanking her power level

The entire "hurr 80% in one day too strong for Cu so he ran away" shit was all power levels

Also
>weren't really strong
last I checked they won two grail wars which is more than anyone on your list except Gilgamesh and Arturia can claim to have done
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>>166062765
>beated
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>>166062695
>I tried to be the one in charge
See
>>166062736
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>>166062765
Karna should be there instead of the second Gil
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Fluffy Love for everyone~
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>>166062386
You're fucking retarded. I don't care about Iskandar, but I do care about history and Alexander the Great is far more important than fucking Gilgamesh to any historician worth a salt. Gilgamesh was a who fifth king of Uruk. Nasu just powercrept him massively and underservingly with shit that isn't even his own. He wasn't even the oldest king and hero on his own fucking story. Alexander the Great was butchered on the opposite direction.

And let me remind you Saber and Gilgamesh jobbed to a fucking teenager in their first appearances, so their showing is far worse so far. They just got focus on other works to wanked them a bit. Don't have a short memory. Point stands: Alexander the Great, whom Iskandar is based of, is historical and in his legend and romance super famous and powerful.

>>166062401
The Persian Iskandar's bullshit is hilariously OP. This guy was like King Arthur for that era (in the amount of literature he inspired and many versions) with a lot of legends with praise him as ruler of the world and his horse also does other retarded shit.
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>>166062765
>No karna? but well he wasnt in atilla team.
I could check Karna's entry again to see if he was called a top servant, but I don't think he was at the moment.

We know he's strong regardless though. Maybe he turned down the throne when it wanted to call him a top servant. As he insisted he wasn't that great.
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>>166062830
Defeated, ok i should go to sleep now, good night.
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>>166062359
>Only five servants in Extella are called top servants. Gilgamesh, Iskandar, Jeanne, Gilgamesh, Atilla, and Arthuria.
>two gilgameshes
>6 Servants

anything you want to fix
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>>166062824
I'm sorry your boyfriend isn't as strong as a planetary threat
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Some nip made gudako

Maybe I should make my own
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>>166062586
Stop shilling Nasu in Extella. His writing is shitty.
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dudeposters on suicide watch
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>>166062908
I strongly believe Scat is a worse offender than Gil
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>>166062736
>>166062846
Look she punsihed me for being defiant and collared me. Isnt that punishment enough? She knew i was being tsundere and that i actually liked it
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>>166062765
Bullshit reasons is a result of power levels

Nasu wrote himself into a corner by wanking Altera and her faction to high heaven so he had to literally just make some bullshit ability up for Nero's NP which isn't event listed in materials for her to win

If he hadn't decided to go the ALTERA THE ABSOLUTELY UNBEATABLE UNLESS YOU'RE ARTURIA EVEN IF YOU HAVE REGALIA route then he would have had options but instead he just exposed himself as a shitty writer who has to ass pull on the fly because he turned Extella into DBZ with Altera as the fucking Saiyans and Arturia is Goku - nobody else is relevant
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>>166062928
I recall them calling him one a few times during the final route
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>>166062359
>Jeanne
Good joke.
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>>166063045
Fuck her with Gudao
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>>166063096
>so he had to literally just make some bullshit ability up for Nero's NP which isn't event listed in materials for her to win
Its not an ability

it was just "This is very nice looking-AGH, you're hitting me with a sword while I'm distracted. Because I'm an autistic robot that's never understood beauty before!".
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Is wank the new cuck?
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>>166062908
>historical accuracy memes
>wants that in fate
>calls other a retard
>claims iskandar can control demons
Oh boy you are just so mad you can't think straight
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>>166060376
>Cu joined Nero's side since it was interesting, but went "Ah shit" on the inside when he realized Nero was also there. Seems he really doesn't enjoy being around her.
Fixed
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>>166062359
I think a lot of people understimate DUDE's NP just because Gil and Ea are OP as fuck. Against a normal Servant it's pretty overwhelming, specially since there are Servants stronger than Iskandar himself there.
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>>166063137
Ruler container
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>>166063301
>butthurt gudako fags
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>>166063085
Oh, definitely, but I'm giving you an example. Gilgamesh was wanked even if he spent his first appearance in FSN jobbing to Japanese teenagers and with less legitimately reason of what they could do with Alexander the Great because he actually has a shitload of retarded lore, on top of being actually famous and well-known.
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>>166063402
this one's an astolfo edit though
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>>166063461
Im implying that butthurt gudako fags made their own version to bash gudao
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>tfw BROSKANDAR is finally getting the wank he deserves
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>>166063278
>claims iskandar can control demons
Here ancient fanart.
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>>166063240
sorry nasu doesn't get to pull that bullshit when the entire moon cell is shown to have beautiful scenery long before she got pulled into Nero's theater

it's just an ass pull because he realized he turned Extella into power level bullshit and had to find a way out and he couldn't find a good way to do it other than that shitty excuse of writing
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>>166063535
>thinks everything is an autistic character war instead of a joke
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Can someone remind me why Cu Alter's Gae Bolg looks differently in all 3 Ascensions? Are those just various Curruid bones?
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>>166063562
Damn ancient deviant tarts.
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>>166063535
ah okay, I just figured male vs femalemaster stuff was fgog only
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>Kiyohime will never get anything vanilla again
fuck off riyo, fucking ruining this character for everyone
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>>166063590
Artificial mooncell shit doesn't compare to the beauty of human civilization you dumb fuck.
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>>166062314
Underrated
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>>166063713
>cuckbait
>now even more of a cuckbait

Really makes me think
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>>166063590
>sorry nasu doesn't get to pull that bullshit when the entire moon cell is shown to have beautiful scenery long before she got pulled into Nero's theater

>Nero
>Implying he won't pull the "But Nero's theater is a thousand more times beautiful than any random scenery in the mooncell" card
>Because Nero is so great and fabulous, that her theater is a masterpiece and the greatest

Still not an ability though
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>>166061480
This is why I run him with Jannu

>>166059727
Here's the thing about that.
I used it on Beowulf. I got NR, and Tamamo dupe 1 day, 2 days later i get Beo and used the shit from the event on him immediately, then I King Skelly 3 days ago. I have been leveinlg a lot of shit and only going on class so its been a bit slow.
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>>166063432
If you gave all the retarded lore to the characters that have it, Karna, Arjuna, and Rama would be able to blow up the universe on a whim.
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>>166063096
Stop being retarded, if this was a powerlevel contest he should just go for the route of bullshiting new abilities or power ups. Take Nero fight as a example it was just altera stopping looking to nero because the np was distracting her (the reason is bullshit we know) when he could just bullshit a upgrade to ip or some shit like that.
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>>166062220
>Your cursed arm is shit. Bring me thy head
>Your poison is shit. Bring me thy head
>All of you are shit. Bring me thy head
>>
>Nerofags need to deal with the rep Brain damage anon gave them and the wank induced hate
>Alterafags ned to deal with alium OC donut steel and wank
>Tamamofags need to deal with Cuckposting.

Extra is suffering.
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>>166063385
Summon Saint George and you will have a far better ruler servant though.
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>>166063742
Shit recreated from Nero or Tamamo's memories and will of old Earth is no different than Nero summoning her tiny ass theater

>>166063802
I'm arguing it's shit writing, which it is. Because Nasu just finally dropped his compatibility meme and just fully embraced only power levels mattering until he had to actually end the game - which is why we have to deal with the bullshit of Nero beating Altera even when that would never happen given everything he said about her and her faction earlier in the game

It's just shitty lazy writing from someone who wrote himself into a corner by ignoring one of the supposed tenants of his franchise which is that power levels aren't anything- unless your name is anyone in Altera's faction
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>>166063278
Bro, google the Iskandarnameh. Alexander the Great has two legends, one Western and one Eastern and the Eastern one (the one of Iskandar) is full of retarded bullshit, like how Iskandar built a magical wall that would keep all demons and evil out with its mighty protection.

Literal what seems used as basis for Lord Camelot.
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>>166062110
Sicily is trash filled with criminal subhumans
other ountries worry about roach immigrants, italians have to worry about roaches coming from the south of their own country.
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>>166062220
>The Cursed Arm. What hast thou grasped with the arm of a devil? Thy own folly? Now… bring me thy head.

>The Hundred-Faced. What hast thou built with endless wisdom? The hunger of a hundred souls scrambling to seize a single faith? Fool! Bring me thy head.

>The Serene. What hast thou managed to protect with a body dipped in poison? Thy own solitude, which faileth to guard even wildflowers in bloom? Fool. Bring me thy head.
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>>166064001
>It's just shitty lazy writing from someone who wrote himself into a corner by ignoring one of the supposed tenants of his franchise which is that power levels aren't anything- u
Seems to be the opposite of what you're saying entirely. He tried to show power levels aren't everything, by having someone use their brain or exploit a weakness to beat power levels. But it just wasn't done in a way you liked.

You don't like it but it doesn't prove he forgot that power levels are the only thing, it proved the exact opposite. It proved that he didn't forget it. Since it was shown that Atilla was stronger than Nero, so Nero exploited Atilla's feelings to win instead.
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>>166063673
It looks like left Cu is giving a loving handjob to right Cu.
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>gold chest
>caster stone
every fucking time
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>>166064001
Powerlevelfags might be more autistic than Altera if they can't understand the theater scene.
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>>166064174
nice try nasu shill, Altera would've one shot her before she ever summoned the theater based on her original depiction just earlier in the fucking game where she almost did just that
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>Giant Attila
CUTE
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>>166064152
100faces has 100heads, he can spare one to make gramps happy.
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>>166063839
I agree but Karna and Arjuna aren't as well known as Alexander the Great. Alexander the Great was famous and had his own retarded lore to draw shit from. That's my point. He had all: fame boost and stupid powercreeping lore like King Arthur. There was no need to made up shit for him when he was full of it.
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>>166064263
>black tights
Instantly the design is 100% improved.
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>>166064174
Not him but i kinda agree that the 'Wow it's so beautiful, oh no i got stabbed" thing is really silly.
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>>166064358
>Two characters in Hinduism, which is still a large religion today, one of which is a central character in one of the most important religious texts in Hinduism, aren't well known

Sure. Not as well known as Alexander the Great, maybe, but still very well known.
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>>166064393
>he never got stabbed because he got distracted with something pretty
It's like you never lived
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>>166064263
I so hope this gets shut down by Nasu
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>>166064152
Why does the king have such damn good lines?
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You're walking around the campus with your waifu and these two gents walks up to you and slap your waifu in the ass, what do?
>>
>>166064358
>herk not having nothing for years is alright
>but if iskandar doesn't have some of his stuff from persian fanfics it's a problem
Dudefags pls stop I thought that the bro shitposting was ironic
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>>166064152
KUBI O DASEI
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>>166064263
Why do you post a game we'll never get translated?
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>All these big name artist getting into F/GO

Thank god they missed C90
Good for about half a year more
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>>166062438
My wives
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>>166064534
Me too, even if the art's nice there's something about it all that rubs me the wrong way.
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>>166064263
I like it but she should still be wearing her jacket
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Medb a CUTE
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>>166064594
Buy them a toilet.
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>>166064263
What the hell?
I like Flo now.
>>
>>166064358
Not well known in Murrica maybe but for the people that practice Hinduism and the Eastern as a whole? Yeah, nah.
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>>166064594
Fuck them up
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>>166064480
An autistic, almost emotionless alium, being distracted by some random theater to the point where she drops what she's doing mid-combat to get shanked is kinda silly.
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>>166064465
You know what I mean, I would have also wanted them to stick to be faithful with the curries and not wank Scat. But my original point was mock the ones who complain Alexander the Great shouldn't be a top Servant. Of course he should be. Like Ceasar and Augustus should kick Nero out as best Roma (Romulus too I guess - but the thing is that imperial Rome was a bit autistic with its monarchy past and looked up more Alexander as model of ruler).
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>>166064594
Say I'm very sorry that my waifu ass hit their hands and ask them to not beat the crap out of me.
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>>166064152
I hope he's BFF with midget Hassan
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>>166064534
I so hope your life support gets shut down by Nasu.

Imagine if all the creators actually went around and shut down every doujin works ever
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>>166064281
>You disagree with me
>I'll just scream shill now.

Its the specifics; this isn't a new ability out of nowhere, that's a bullshit argument. Her ability hasn't changed. This isn't proof that Nasu has forgotten power levels, that's a bullshit argument. We know Atilla is stronger, so her being beaten by some tactic isn't proof that Nasu has forgotten everything except power levels. That argument doesn't even make sense.

"This is a really shitty way to handle it, and doesn't make sense", that's an actual argument here.

Half the time when I'm arguing with people, I get that they hate it and I agree on that part, but their reasons are dumb. You aren't representing things well at that rate. Make sure the reasons line up and it'll be delivered better.
>>
>Nero thinks Archer could be a Grecian servant
Could this be a hint at his true identity?
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>>166064594
What if arjuna is my waifu?
>>
>>166064594
I try to intimate them.
If that fails i'll slap their asses.
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>>166064652
>>166064603
See >>166064695 It's not about Iskandar. That's just an example. I also wish for Herakles to get the respect he deserves.
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>>166064693
It happens to the best of us
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>>166064720
Imagine if you weren't a retard
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>>166064746
>Grecian
>yfw Red man was a pseudo servant since the very start
>yfw Emiya was actually apollo
>yfw nasu planned it all

BRAVO NASU
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>>166064837
imagine all the people
punting you in the dick
for all of eternity
>>
>>166064718
He has killed every Hassan who succeeded him. It's how they all end up.
>>
Is there a translation for King Hassan's bond CE yet?
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>>166064837
The chance of it being shut down is almost nil, if you look around DLsite there are hundreds of thousands of blatant rip off of popular franchises in the form of RPGmaker porn games

If I'm a retard for noticing what you said was completely retarded then I don't know what you are.
>>
>>166064693
Yes and the point is that she's not just an emotionless alien
>>
http://poal.me/wsso0b
http://poal.me/wsso0b
http://poal.me/wsso0b
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>>166064819
>I also wish for Herakles to get the respect he deserves.
You can just forget that ever happening.
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>>166064603
>two buffed guys who are Zeus' children get fucked despite being wanked as strong
>nasu even said Herakles (sane) would have a personality similar to DUDE

What did they mean with this?
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>>166064725
doing some bullshit that would only work once isn't proof power levels aren't all that matters

Altera beats Nero 10 out of 10 times when the story doesn't require Nero to win
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>>166065028
>do I want to see people ERP with Melvin
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>>166064927
i thought he just killed the ones who went to shit, not necessarily all 18 of them
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>>166065008
You are indeed retarded
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>>166065034
N-Narita might change this and we'll enter into an Herakles era.
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>>166065146
How?
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>>166064152
why did he help arm in the order
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>>166065135
You are right, the guy you replied to has it wrong.
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>>166065135
All of them are shit. That's his point. Only Cursed Arm in Camelot escaped his judgement after coming into contact with him.
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>>166065217
Still replying
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>>166065090
You could say that about any underdog victory though.

The plot needs the underdog to win so it comes up with some reason why the weaker person is the winner. That's not something exclusive to Fate
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>>166065037
It means both job to Gi
>>
Historyfags, who is the most iconic Roman soldier?
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>>166065135
He kills all of them eventually. His title is hassan who kills Hassans, he's killed every assassin that's ever strayed the path, fallen, or skills have rusted. As soon as they start to fail in their job a bit, they hear the bells.

Among the 18 he says the only one who's missed out on his wrath is cursed hand once.
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>>166065285
Yeah explain to me how I'm retarded for not questioning the doujin industry.
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>>166065016
Doesn't he constantly compare herself to a machine whose sole purpose is killing and destroying? why would she be enthralled by some random theater?
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Do people still think Alexander isn't top tier? It's like nobody understands what entails an army of 30000+ Servants
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>>166065308
Longinus
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>>166065289
Wake me up when Nero beats Altera without an ass pull
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>>166065308
Longinus, Asterix and Obelix
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>>166065154
>we'll enter into an Herakles era
Unless Herakles is fujobait or female, it's not happening. He was doomed since FSN.
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>>166065308
Probably Saint George or Longinus?
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>>166065090
Nero wins by appealing to Altera's blooming emotions in their first fight after the scene with Nero calling her out on them.
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>>166065154
Narita could have just had normal Archer Herc in SF and look what he did instead.
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>>166065308
rank and file?
maybe Longinus
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>>166065291
>Ikemen Herk doesn't job
>Bitchy 20s ikemen Alexander when?

I think the issue is that they are both put in "the mentor/father or big brother" roles which exist to get fucked and die for their ward.
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>>166065357
Retard
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>>166065441
>Fate
>Normal

For once I just want to see a normal Holy Grail War that proceeds normally and ends with a guy making a wish to the grail and get what he wishes for.
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>>166065389
He's pretty good but overrated.
30000+ servants who are meh as fuck isn't that impressive. i'd basically be the same as an army of Medea's skeletons but marginally stronger.
A top tier servant wouldn't be hindered too much and would be give enough time to nuke Iskander or kill enough Servants so the reality marbel breaks.
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>>166065402
Why the fuck does it even matter?
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>>166065389
It's like as if most servant actually could beat that many people easily shocking
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>>166065090
Yes, that's a point I was trying to make as well there. Although it looks like I deleted a word.

I think one of the previous posters was arguing that this is proof Nasu only does power levels now.
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>>166065441
Better than making him a jobber at least.
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Did you know there's a higher chance of rolling garbage 4* and 5* instead of good 4* and 5*?

For example, chech all the times you've rolled trash like Marie, Martha and Book and compare it to the times you have rolled Arturia Alter, Heracles and Atalante.
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>>166065389
>an army of 30000+ Servants
30000 weak shits without an NP of their own. Even an E- Anti-Army NP would kill them easily.
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>>166065389
Even Gawain could kill all those guys with one Galatine.
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>2017
>powerlevelfags still get mad when their fights don't go the way they think they should because muh power
Keking at you
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>>166065554
Fate/Grand Order Zero with Caster Solomon and Olga's dad when, Nasu?
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>>166065642
>>166065673
Not him, but most Anti-army NP's are capped at like 1000 units.
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>>166065642
>>166065673
>forgetting that most anti army NP can only capture up to 999 targets

Good luck firing off excalibur one after another
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>>166064617
Fuck off Saber Alters mine.
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>>166065308
I can only think of Spartacus, Longinus, Cincinnatus and Marcus Antonius (as in Cleopatra's Mark Antony).
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>>166065626
How often do you roll the story gacha for Alter?
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>>166065706
All it does when a fight doesn't have its logical conclusion is prove the author is a hack incapable of writing something that isn't trash.
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>>166065563
But the servants aren't meh tier

It's been said constantly that they are all heroic spirits, many of them weaker than him, many of them stronger than him

The only stats we know about them is that they all have some low ranking independent action. For all we know there's a few servants in there that are equals in combat to guys like Lancelot and Gawain
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>>166065612
Oh wait, I misread that again. I'm posting too fast.

No, this is proof power levels aren't everything. Yes situational stuff works, half the shit in Fate is situational.

As long as it isn't DBZ, where its just who has the higher numbers, its not power levels. If someone with lower numbers can beat someone with higher numbers ever, its not power levels. Shirou beating Gilgamesh is anti-power levels. Arthuria beating Heracles in UBW by exploiting the terrain is anti-power levels. Nero beating Atilla even if its bullshit is anti-power levels. If you build a trap in a situation for someone and it works, that isn't "proof" that power levels are the only thing. Its the exact opposite. Situational stuff works the exact same. As long as it worked, and the lesser numerical one wins, then its anti-power levels.
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>>166065818
>a fight didn't go how I thought it should
>t-the author is thrash I tell you
At least seeing you like that is fun
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>>166065798
>Spartacus
>Roman Soldier

Im pretty sure he was a dacian slave POW or something
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Do people seriously believe Alexander the Great is a weak Heroic Spirit, having historically created one of the largest empires in human history spanning from Greece to India, being personally taught by one of the founding fathers of Western thought and having supernatural powers and being mentioned many times in the Bible, the Quran, Zoroastrian AND Greek mythology? DUDEposting has gotten so out of hand lately, jesus. I bet none of (You) have even heard of Alexander romance.

And to reply to some retarded anon, yes he can control an army of fucking Indian demons in his own real life legends. Nasu should've given that on top of his army of normal dudes. He is massively weaker than in his own legends.
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>>166065829
>forgetting fucking Ptolemy is on it and he's probably got some hilarious stats and abilities
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>>166065829
>For all we know there's a few servants in there that are equals in combat to guys like Lancelot and Gawain
Unless they have strong individual skills they're still fodder.
You could have a servant with A's in everything but without an NP or good skills he'd get fodderized.
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>>166065818
>everything should go according to my logic because I don't understand emotions
Go home Archimedes
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>>166065818
Or that powerlevels aren't linear and its a rock paper scissors + situational circumstances battle.
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>>166065817
Not him but I've had her from the start of the game, it's her Lancer version I want. I dump quartz into the story gacha just to try and get her, actually.
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>>166065626
>Book
>Bad
Second best art/crit servant

>Atalanta
>Good
Worse than Emiya only good for quick memes
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>>166065389
It's just a few hundred guys. Maybe a thousand.
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>>166065920
>one of the biggest empires
>lasts nothing
It's thrash
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>>166065920
American education is embarrassing.
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>>166065948
>have EX in every stats beside NP
>no skills whatsoever
>Gets destroyed by Divinity E
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>>166065565
Because if it can't happen consistently then it's not compatibility, it's a one time bullshit to try and save awful writing
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>>166065962
>"I just want to do math"
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>>166065563
>30000+ servants who are meh as fuck isn't that impressive. i'd basically be the same as an army of Medea's skeletons but marginally stronger.

what is actually said

>Army is heroic spirits
>A number of them are called stronger than Alexander himself, Drake is given as an example of someone in his army, all of them fairly strong but no NP. Only limited by no NP.

meanwhile what people interpret this into for some reason

>Army is weak fodder ghosts and none of them are anything, basically familiar tier, in fact probably as weak as living humans or walking skeletons. Probably all E rank shits

People can't ever break past this misunderstanding for some reason. Because even when the materials say otherwise, people still see it the second way.
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>>166066052
>no Byzantine servants representing the greatest empire
What the fuck
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>>166065920
Let's not even mention "Lord Camelot" is a knock off of his Wall of Steel of legend.
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>>166066093
>a number of them are called stronger than a weak guy oh and by the way no NPs
Really impressive, specially when everyone now has an anti army NP
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>>166066095
>Summon Belisarius and Justinian
>Both cuckolds
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>>166065983
>rock paper scissors
Let me explain how this actually works. The rock breaks the scissors, goes straight through the paper and the bigger/harder rock beats the smaller/softer rock.
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>>166065850
If Nero can't consistently beat Altera it's still 100% power levels
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>>166065626
You should actually be more grateful about rolling Book than Atalanta gameplaywise. She is basically the only decent option to use as an offensive caster against assassins.
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>>166066093
NP's are kinda sink or swim in the Nasu verse.
If you restricted Karna's NP's and put him up against Cu who did have his NP's Cu would probably win.

I'll give you that his army is underestimated but at the same time it's not that impressive since the whole RM can collapase if you kill enough soldiers.
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>>166066024
It's tens of thousands. Assuming Japanese grammar isn't being fucked up in translation, that's a minimum of 30000 and a max of 90000.
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>>166065962
Fuck that green one

She's the best one though
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>>166065948
But that's the thing, we don't know if they have strong individual skills or not. We know absolutely nothing about them beyond that they were given a low rank of IA from his reality marble

When the author goes out of his way to say stuff like "there are servants in here much stronger than Iskandar" and that they are the same as aby servant - lacking only a noble phantasm - we have to assume that they have strong personal skills as well

And before you go "Oh they don't have a NP so they're trash!" Go look at Sasaki
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>>166066181
>People actually think this is how it works
Nah, it can't be real. People can't be that stupid.
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>>166066052
Camelot sure lasted a lot and was fine after Arturia died.
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>>166065983
Nero beating Altera is tissue paper beating a titanium blade

it only happens in a world where the author decided to ignore the reality of his own world because he forgot that fact in his desire to wank titanium
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>>166066195
I'm not sure you understand what power levels means, then. Nothing in Nasu matchups are set in stone. No battle will absolutely go a certain way, and even rules of "this must certainly happen" may be broken.
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>>166066291
>Sasaki
Absolute trash that every single servant with an NP would easily kill.
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>>166066170
>Really impressive, specially when everyone now has an anti army NP
Which if you actually read the mats makes Alexander gain advantage against them. The only reason why Ea worked was because it was anti world which attacked the RM itself and not the army. Iskandar was ready to deal with anti army or anti fortress NP, the real weakness is specifically ANTI WORLD nps.

But the DUDEposters secondaries never read the mats or Fate/Zero or basically nothing except shitpost.
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>>166066249
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>>166066170
>Anti Army NP directly beats any army
>Saber says that Excalibur only had a 50% chance of beating Iskandar's army in Zero, she was unsure of her odds before the final battles if it came to it.

Not how it works, its like saying an anti-unit NP surely kills anyone.

>>166066242
Its said his army went into the tens of thousands, so you'd have to kill a lot of guys.
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>>166066384
>Army can handle anti-army NPs
This is not how it works at all.
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>>166066095
Anna Komnene might be cool for Fate
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>>166066358
And yet he out duels and pushes back some of the greatest mythological heroes out there
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>>166066291
Tsubame gaeshi is basically and NP.
And literally the only reason he WASN'T destroyed in Fuyuki is because of Caster's field.
If you threw Sasaki at someone who had full use of their NP's he'd go down to most of them, with him securing a kill or two with Tsubame gaeshi, which is basically an NP.
Skills and NP's matter way more than stats, and there's a reason why when nasu compares Heroic spirits to regular people is "with an average Noble phantasm" and not "with average stats"
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>>166066347
OK tell me what other situation Nero ever beats Altera in then, go ahead I'll wait
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>>166066479
■ Military Tactics: B
Tactical knowledge used not for one-on-one combat situations, but for battles where many are mobilized. Bonus modifiers are provided during use of one's own Anti-Army Noble Phantasm or when dealing against an enemy Anti-Army Noble Phantasm.
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>>166066512
>duels and pushes back some of the greatest mythological heroes out there
All thanks to Caster.
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>>166066512
something something Caster had a role in that something something.
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>>166066512
Because of Medea's no NP field, among others.
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>>166066649
Only for Heracles because Sasaki can't hurt him. The rest is all skill and terrain advantage.
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>>166066479
It's explicitly stated that Iskandar's military tactics give him an advantage to deal against armies and anti armies attacks. Specifically, it's stated that he can take anti armies and anti fortress attacks. What threw him off was the anti world because there was absolutely no way to negate it as Gilgamesh wasn't targeting him or his men but the world.

Alexander can move and place people in his NP as he wishes, by the way. That's another informed ability that isn't used because he's a mentor/big brother character and those types are required to die to make the other ones grow. Same shit with Herakles basically.
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>>166066717
Emiya would've just nuked him

Cu could've nuked him with thrown Bolg too
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>>166066594
So uh.
What the fuck are those Bonus modifiers?
If it said gains resistance to anti-army i'd be fine, but it just says bonus modifiers. for all we know Gawain could just throw out Galatine and still wipe out a sizeable chunk.
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>>166066574
Nero beats Altera whenever Nasu wants her to do so.
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Being Grand Lancer requires being a god killer, right? Would Longinus be a candidate in that case? He did deal a killer blow to the big G's avatar.
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>>166066479
>this secondary
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New Battle Moon Wars when?
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>>166066717
No, Caster made that field that made it impossible to use NP's at a distance, so you can't just bellephron, Gae bolg, Excaliblast etc. him.
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>>166066774
>What the fuck are those Bonus modifiers?
Instead of killing everyone instantly 1 in 10000 might barely survive for a few seconds.
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>zero babies get mad when people think that iskandar is weak
Okay have some cute things to change the subject
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>>166066784
so ass pulls in other words, way to prove my point

Nero never beats Altera, Altera loses to Nasu
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>>166066770
>EMIYA
>Its said that nuking is negated by the boundary outside of Ryuudou entirely, all NPs are blocked, and Sasaki has the highest speed value in the war

>Cu
>Cu himself says out of anyone in the war he'd never fight Sasaki again, his fighting style is too hard to adapt to and too annoying. He can't deal with it, he'd rather fight Heracles.
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>>166066731
>That's another informed ability that isn't used because he's a mentor/big brother character and those types are required to die to make the other ones grow.
Doesn't that mean it's a pointless ability since he'll never actually use it?
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>all armies and anti-army categories are the same size meme
Reminder that Medb's Chariot My Love Anti-Army NP has a maximum target number of 50 people. She would have to use it 400 times assuming Iskandar's "tens of thousands" army is just two tens of thousands. Now imagine Arturia having to use her Anti-Army Swordbeam 20 times, since her max target number is 1000. She can't do it. Not enough mana.
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>>166066848
Maybe you should actually read a bible instead of using this to create some edgy case.

There's a reason Longius is a saint in Christian lore. Him stabbing jesus was actually a mercy to show that he was already dead, so that the Romans wouldn't break his legs on the cross.

He didn't kill anyone, he did it so that they would not lay a finger on that man again or put one more wound upon his body.

This fulfilled one of jesus final prophecies, that he would die unbroken.
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>>166066981
>Its said that nuking is negated by the boundary outside of Ryuudou entirely, all NPs are blocked
You just answered you own question dumbass.
Kojiro had access to "his" NP while everyone else had to do without theirs.
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>>166066334
Or perhaps that reality never existed in the first place because in every single series, strength doesn't mean shit and the person who wins is someone that the plot demands to win.

Powerlevels mean absolutely nothing because the plot will always favor a character over the other no matter what.

If the plot demands that Mata Hari beats Ozzy, it will happen. Powerlevels are pointless and is just theoretical garbage that means nothing in an actual work of the franchise.
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>>166066574
I don't get what you're trying to say, it's dbz powerlevel stuff BECAUSE Nero occasionally beats Altera?

That's pretty much the opposite of how it works. Do you think Shirou beating Gil was dbz stuff? Or how Hakuno+[servant] fought her way past a large number (5? 6? I can't remember) with no use of any sort of noble phantasm and incredibly limited magic knowledge?

These are situational events that wouldn't be possible if it was some dbz "well he has more power than me so I can do literally nothing" like if krillin fought beerus
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I don't get why people assume that any anti-army guarantees victory against any army. I mean, Iskandar's NP is ranked EX and lets him field an army of some tens of thousands of soldiers. Cu has an anti-army NP ranked B+ which can target a few dozen people per strike. It's spammable, but it can't be used an indefinite amount of times and it has a charging timer. But why would you assume that the latter is a perfect counter against the former? For a more extreme example, Serenity has an anti-army NP as well, but who in their right mind would think that she would stand a chance against thousands of armed soldiers charging at her?

People get too hung up over those categorizations, I think.
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>>166066774
His army is compromised by tens of thousands Heroic Spirits. It's going to be difficult to spam anti armies attacks when he can move the positions as he wishes. What fucks him over are Anti Worlds attacks, not Anti Armies. Even Arturia isn't sure Excalibur will do shit, so she hesitates. And Excalibur is far better than Gawain's sword. He had the worst compatibility for Gil who took him seriously and Ea him from the beginning.

The reason why Iskandar will job is the same as Herk, don't fool yourself. He's a walking Worf Mentor Figure and will suffer that same fate unless they introduce to a cunt bishounen version Caster version of him in his 20s who will have an army of demons and other shit like that.
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>>166066981
>Its said that nuking is negated by the boundary outside of Ryuudou entirely

Couldn't he just nuke him from the stairs? Sasaki can't move very far from the entrance.
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>>166066961
>>166066961
t's not that he's weak. it's that he's super hard countered by certain Heroic spirits.
He Does well against heroes who can't last against his army, but he basically Auto-loses to people who can.
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>>166067125
Koijirou had no NP, also even if he wasn't in Ryuudou I mentioned he had the highest speed value in the war. If Saber and Lancer can dodge Archer's NPs, then Sasaski already could as well. Not to mention he has skills that say Archer can never adapt to him.

All you showed is that you didn't read the full post.
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>>166067014
It means that we'll have our Iskandar (20s) version where he's going to be more like the Alexander of the legends and history.
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Considering every servant, bar Babbage possibly, is Human/Humanoid I'm surprised I haven't seen a lv 100 Sanson.
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>>166067101
>>166067154
Anti-Army memers BTFO
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>>166067109
I wasn't raised religiously, forgive me. That sucks then. I guess it's either going to be Scat or Karna, and I hate both.
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>>166067230
>cunt bishounen version Caster version of him in his 20s who will have an army of demons and other shit like that.

Would whale.
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Who do you want?

>Datamine
Achilles
Arthur Pendragon
Astolfo (Saber)
Avicebron
Bradamante
Calamity Jane
Caeneus
Chiron
Diarmuid Ua Duibhne (Saber)
Gilgamesh (Prototype)
Inshun Hozoin
Kazuradrop
Kingprotea
Ivan the Terrible
Li Shuwen (Old)
Meltlilith
Mochizuki Chiyome
Mother Harlot
Nezha
Parvati
Passionlip
Perseus
Perseus (Lancer)
Qin Liangyu
Red Hare
Semiramis
Sigurd
Sieg
Sita
Sherlock Holmes
Suzuka Gozen
Tomoe Gozen
Valkyrie
Violet

>Other
Agravain
Black Iri
Ereshkigal
Jason
Goetia
Hassan of Intoxicated Smoke
Kingu
Lion King
Solomon
Tiamat
Ushi-Gozen
Ultra Heroine Z
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>>166067230
>Even Arturia isn't sure Excalibur will do shit, so she hesitates. And Excalibur is far better than Gawain's sword
Not really, not in this case.
Gawain swordbeam is the contrary to Saber's. Saber is a high power focused beam, Gawain's is a powerful widespread attack that can cover as much as 13KM with one swing. His swordbeam counters armies better than Excalibur.
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>>166067338
Generally if you're that desperate for an Anti-Servant servant you'll take a Berserker, or Gilgamesh if you've got him.
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>>166067230
>And Excalibur is far better than Gawain's sword.
Actually Galatine is better for this specific purpose since Galatine is a wide blast instead of a straight line, in the same way Balmung is better than Say Clarent for dealing with a huge crowrd or Caladbolg being the best at just fucking up shit in an AoE. there's a reason Excalibur is anti-fortress and not anti-army. it's a directed beam, not a wide blast.
But you're not wrong in that his army is strong, but it auto-loses to certain concepts and servants. like >>166067264 said. if you can't outlast his army you lose, if you can you win.
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>>166067470
Both of the Gozens. Who are their artists?
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>>166067431
It's going to be Lion King or the entity behind Romulus's dream or even the god that created Japan.
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>>166066228
Da Vinci is better
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>>166067154
>Cu has an anti-army NP ranked B+ which can target a few dozen people per strike. It's spammable, but it can't be used an indefinite amount of times and it has a charging timer.
The real reason people give Cu a leg-up on Iskandar is that he's literally known best for being a person that takes on armies single-handedly. Combined with his survival and skirmish-focused skillset, AND a good nuke on top of it, he's well-suited to that sort of thing.
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>>166067014
No, it makes sense that he haves that kind of skill in lore even if he doesnt use it it helps to show more about him too. A pointless skill would be Saber riding in stay night.
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>>166067470
Solomon and Sherlock.
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>>166067274
Lancer dodging Archer's NP is because of protection from Arrows. and Saber has instinct.
Kojiro is amazing for what he is, but he's still pretty average as servant and would lose out to alot of servants because """His NP""" while impressive, is pretty situational since he needs to be on level-ground to launch the attack from that specific stance.
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>>166067431
It doesn't suck, he's still the most famous lancer in history. But he's no atheist super hero that people make him out to be when they don't know shit.

No he didn't stick it to god in defiance and hatred, kind of the opposite.

He's got a lot of legends about him, some say he was blind until Jesus blood splashed on him, and he could see. He was a man who chose to go against orders and prove Jesus was already dead in order to fulfill the gospel. He's often associated with the centurian who said "Truly he was the son of god" after seeing the world turn dark and earthquakes and fire briefly happened right as Jesus passed away, or maybe he said it before that part.

He didn't kill Jesus, but his spear was still dipped in his blood. Its been mentioned in Fate already that the spear of Longius is on par with Rhon, or maybe it is Rhon?
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>>166067152
>>166067135
The fact that there's no way to explain Nero beating Altera other than awful writing is proof that power levels are all that matters

If compatibility were really a thing in Extella Nasu would've made it at least seem convincing like Shirou vs Gil

There's no fucking way Altera went from easily one shotting Nero with her regalia in their first encounter after she beat Tamamo to being so fucking incompetent so as to let Nero get her NP off and then be captivated or whatever bullshit

She would have just killed her instantly like she almost did the first time, Nero has no chance in that fight without plot armor because Altera's power level is too high
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>>166067470
Assassin Li Shuwho to complete the original Extra cast.
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>>166067101
Well we have only seen Gilgamesh interrupt his RM. Fundamental though, Iskandar's rm in not only maintained by him it is also maintaied by the army. We don't know the scale needed to interrupt the rm but the whole army doesn't need to die in order to beat it.
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>>166067470
punished ushi
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>>166067638
Cu can't beat luck and Iskandar has Luck A+. He's one of the worst compatibility.

He also ran from Altera.
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>>166067676
It's more of the fact that he'll never use it making it a pointless thing. Same way with most servants Riding skill just "being there"
It's kinda like Vlads LoD. In normal circumstances it might aswell not exist.
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>>166067338
Considering every servant, bar Babbage possibly, is Human/Humanoid I'm surprised I haven't seen a lv 100 Nightingale.
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>>166067638
He doesn't have a skill or NP that says he can fight armies single handedly so he wouldn't be able to do fuck all, fuck off Cu memer he ran away like a bitch against Altera without even trying to fight because he was so outclassed and Iskandar is said to be on her level in Extella
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>>166067230
>Even Arturia isn't sure Excalibur will do shit, so she hesitates. And Excalibur is far better than Gawain's sword.
You have never read Extra, have you?
Galatine can truly eliminate the whole Iskander army far better than Excalibur.
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>>166067470
>Achilles
>Arthur Pendragon
>Diarmuid Saber
>Proto Gilgamesh
>Ivan the Terrible
>Nezha
>Qin Liangyu
>Sherlock Holmes
>Valkyrie
>Solomon
>Abigail Williams
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>>166067834
Cu has his "ONE V ONE ME BRUH" Rune though.
Iskander is fucked against Cu.
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>>166067724
>There's no fucking way Altera went from easily one shotting Nero with her regalia in their first encounter after she beat Tamamo to being so fucking incompetent so as to let Nero get her NP off and then be captivated or whatever bullshit
>She would have just killed her instantly like she almost did the first time, Nero has no chance in that fight without plot armor because Altera's power level is too high

You either didn't read Extella or you're actually retarded.
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>>166067501
That's not what I meant. I mean he is good against basically everything so I am surprised those that like him haven't gotten grailed him even on twitter. Or maybe I haven't searched hard enough.

>>166067847
I'd make Nightingale 100 if I had one.
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>>166067786
It's worth noting that Excalibur has broken a reality marble before. I doubt UBW is anywhere near as "powerful" energy wise as IH, but it seems like sufficient output of a ton of magical energy does make reality marbles unstable
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Can't you just like, kill Iskandar and then the RM goes poof? I mean it shouldn't be too hard if you have an AOE or ranged NP since the dude chargers upfront like a fucking imbecile.
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>>166067230
Excalibur is the sword for blasting really big things, Gallatine is for blasting everything nearby all at once. Its range is 13 KM in all directions.
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>Extella 2.0 reveals Iskandar is Velber 01 while loli Genghis is Velber 03
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>>166067834
>>166067870
>Resorting to memeing about a game you haven't played

In that same game Cu defeats Iskandar.

>>166067870
>He doesn't have a skill or NP that says he can fight armies single handedly
It's literally what he's known for.
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>>166067638
>a good nuke
It's like 50 people per strike and he has to pause a few seconds every time. The best thing about it is that he can use it repeatedly, but I'd still bet he'd run dry and disappear in a puff of fairy dust before he could manage to tally up any serious casualties with his thrown spear.
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>>166067786
Yeah. doing enough damage to the army dispels the Reality Marvel.
So someone like say, Sieg or possibly even Siegfried could jus blast away at the army until the RM breaks. then Iskander is fucked.
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>>166068050
>loli Genghis
Yes please.
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>>166066005
>Not him

Then why the fuck are you replying, cuck?
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>>166067962
>Cu has his "ONE V ONE ME BRUH" Rune though.
It also doesn't stop the rest of the army from getting in the way, it just stops two people in particular from running.

The rest of the army immediately jumps him after he uses it.

>>166068031
No, Iskandar only pays the intial cost. The cost afterwards is split between every in the army. Its stated that the RM will only poof after thirty turns, or if half the people in it die.
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>>166067962
>Iskander is fucked against Cu.
Iskandar can face Altera one to one while Cu ran away from her because she was too strong.

His luck is A+, his spear isn't even going to graze him. Maybe it'll bounce off and impale Cu instead.
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>>166067638
>skirmish-focused skillset
How is this even an asset in an open field where you've got nowhere to run and nowhere to hide?
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>>166068052
retard I'm literally talking about what is said in Extella, the same game where Cu runs from Altera and the same game where they say Iskandar isn't 100% due to his moon cell body
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>>166067470
>Will roll everything I have for if necessary
Sigurd, Parvati

>want to roll for if I can
Perseus (both), Mother Harlot

>might roll for if have any leftover quartz
Calamity Jane, Valkyrie, Caeneus, Gilgamesh (Prototype)

>want to see them get released before deciding
Mochizuki Chiyome, Tomoe Gozen, Kingprotea
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>>166067870
>>166068069
Disengadge and Protection from Arrows probably play a huge role here. he can keep using Disengadge to heal up and come back in to fuck shit up.
Also doesn't have a rune that forces you to fight him in single combat?
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Nerocucks vs Alterafag is the new Gilfag vs Melvin confirmed??
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>>166068050
>loli Genghis Velber
50ft tall younger Ushi?
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>>166067870
>He doesn't have a skill or NP that says he can fight armies single handedly so he wouldn't be able to do fuck all
Go read his legends
Go read Hollow Ataraxia's take on his legends

They both feature him fighting armies single handedly. You don't need a personal skill to do everything. Archer doesn't have the skill sword fighting" but he's still an exceptional fighter with swords
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>>166068050
>Nasu makes all the famous conquerors fucking aliens

No. Attila was bad enough.
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What's with all the secondaries lately that think high luck = Gae Bolg literally misses? Is this Extella-related memeing?
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Why is Altera so wanked? Outside of being an ayylmao. Seriously she has a god's lightsaber. Does Atilla the Hun have that in real lore?
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>>166067974
are you retarded? In the first scene where Altera shows up she barely swings her sword and doesn't even invoke her NP and Nero is BTFO by that alone

She wasn't even trying, in an actual fight Nero has absolutely 0 chance to even fight back
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>>166062359
>>166062765
>>166062876
>>166062928
They call Karna a top Servant in the final route and his dictionary entry in the japanese Extella Material says he is one. Romulus too.
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Rerun when?
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>>166068321
Play the fucking game
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>>166067552
Takenoko Seijin for Suzuka and Shirabi for Tomoe.
>>166068031
You don't really need to kill every single guy in the army even, if you get rid of like half of them, the RM would collapse.
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>>166067338
Considering every servant, bar Tesla possibly, is Cuck/Cuckold I'm surprised I haven't seen a lv 100 Medb.
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>>166068321
>Does Atilla the Hun have that in real lore?
It's a stand-in for Atilla's penis that he raped all those women with
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>>166068304
Nasu said so in mats since CM III, dumbass. Gae Bolg concept is based on chance and fate, high luck stat overturns it. Arturia's B luck made him miss.
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>>166067470
Saber Deermud, Hassan of Smoke, Solo Man.

>>166068345
nevervember
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>>166068293
He's so exceptional he has no chance against any actual hero in a straight up sword fight, he even says he's a shit swordsman

So if that's the standard for Cu beating armies he's fucking shit at that
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>>166067638
You could just look at it the other way and say that Cu fought some famous heroes but still gets decimated by heroes several times throughout FSN.
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>>166066848
>Being Grand Lancer requires being a god killer, right?

No
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>>166068175
>Iskandar can face Altera one to one
You're joking right?
That makes 0 sense. That'd be like Kojiro killing Siegfried.
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>>166068042
> 13 KM all directions
that shit is unusable in things like fuyuki HGW is it.
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>>166068378
>Shirabi
well tomoe should look decent atleast
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>>166067470
Akkun for sure. Been saving for him to come and possibly Da Vinci return.
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>>166068378
>if you get rid of like half of them,
They are tens thousands of them. Max output for anti army is like 1000. This is specifically why Gilgamesh aimed to the world instead of the army, he wasn't retarded.
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>>166068378
>this guy's doing tomoe
I have good faith in the design, in that case.
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>>166068380
Considering every poster, bar Melvin possibly, is Cuck/Cuckold I'm surprised I haven't seen a lv 100 Anon.
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>>166068427
High luck stat overturns the INSTANT KILL. It's still a guaranteed strike directly into your chest. But by all means continue to refer to materials you haven't read.
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>>166068154
So it just stops Iskander from running away? i suppose that could give Cu a chance, since even with high luck, without instinct or something like that Gae Bolg could still hit him, and Iskander doesn't have any good 1v1 showings other than running at Gil then dying.
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>>166068327
I really hope for your sake you just read a summary. Otherwise you have the reading comprehension of a toddler.
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God damn it I liked Altera long before Extella and now people are going to be using her for shitposting and act like I like her because of Extella when I haven't even played it. Why did you have to do this shit to me Nasu?
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>>166067470
Achillies
Mother Harlot
Perseus
Holmes
Hassan of smoke.
Li Shuwen
Heroine Z
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>>166067638
Armies kill people. Cu is a person. Cu dies to armies.

It's logic.
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>>166066848
Why do you think being grand lancer means that?

Things we know about grands so far
>Pretty much nothing;
>Known candidates are KH, Merlin, and Solomon
>Roman speculates that maybe seeing the future has something to do with being grand caster, but isn't sure
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>>166068497
that's what Extella says
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>>166068497
Play Extella.
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>>166068674
>Cu is a person
He's an inhuman demi-god.
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>>166067470
Solomon, Parvati, Ere, Lion King and Agravain.
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>>166068760
>demigods aren't people
That's racist.
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>>166068657
Literally replay the scene after Nero beats Tamamo you retard, you sound like the one who read a summary

Altera bursts out swings her sword and the entire area around Nero is wiped out and she realizes she's fucked even though Altera hasn't even invoked her NP

The only reason she survives is because of regalia bullshit transporting her back To My Room

She has no chance against Altera in any fight based on that, prove me wrong shitter because you sound like you haven't even seen the scene
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>>166062359
Romulus and Karna are also top Servants according to the dictionary.
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>>166067827
I can't wait to return Yoshitsune's smile with the power of headpats.
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>>166068658
>Didn't play it
>Doesn't actually know anything about her except "muh waifu"
>Now hates the game where you do find out about her deeply
>"Nasu whhy?"

Get shreked
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>>166068827
>he has no chance against Altera in any fight based on that
Except for when she gets a better grasp on the Regalia, starts to understand Altera's attack patterns, and Altera starts to love having a rival and wants to fight evenly with her?
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>>166067470
>Meltlilith
I want the compass tool.
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>>166068868
She's not my waifu and it's not even the same Altera as in GO.
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>>166068658
If Altera was written for Extella, wouldn't liking her from GO and not reading Extella essentially make one a waifu secondary?
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>>166062359
Why the fuck is Jeanne there?
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>>166068693
>>166068705
>It's real.
So despite all of Altera's wank.
DUDE can still, despite having no previous showings, despite having no good skills or NP's for unmounted combat. fight her?
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>tfw we will never have a 军神 themed event with 3* Sanada Yukimura Archer, 4* Uesugi Kenshin (Female Saber) and 4* Lancer Guan Yu and 5* Sun Tzu Caster who will dethrone waver
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>>166069015
It's just his substory who gives a shit
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>>166068914
Regalia doesn't fucking count anywhere aside from moon cell, even then Altera never uses hers for no reason other than plot bullshit

Even when the story is set up to give Nero a bullshit excuse to win Altera still only loses due to Nasu being a shit writer
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>>166068578
>This is specifically why Gilgamesh aimed to the world instead of the army, he wasn't retarded.
Gilgamesh, the egomaniacal jack of all trades master of none knows more about how to fight than the omniscient readers posting dumb shit in this thread. Really makes you think.
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Devilish

>>166068980
She's basically the same, they share brain records and memories. Their lore is entirely the same. Extella is the game where she's explored.

Atilla from the start is the brain unit of Giant Atilla, Atilla on Earth and in Moon are just familiars created by Giant Altera to use as envoys.
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>>166068989
Because her reset button probably. Top Servants are basically the guys that SE.RA.PH summoned to protect itself while solo Servants are the ones summoned to populate the new virtual world.
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>>166069087
Alterafags in denial
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>nip artist accepted my friend request
feels sugoi
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>All this Liz abuse in Extella

Feels good after dealing with Lizfag for god knows how long
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>>166069015
See >>166068050
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>>166069087
>It's just his substory
Its literally in the extra materials, that's what started this entire argument.

Extra materials were all translated with the english release.
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I want to fuck Titan Altera so badly holy shit doujins when?
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>>166069253
>All this Liz abuse in Extella
There's way more Liz abuse in CCC though.
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>>166069015
>DUDE can still, despite having no previous showings,
What 'previous' showings? He was literally only in Zero, and unlike Seibah, Medusaless or Gil he never jobbed to a fucking school teacher or random teenagers.
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>>166069154
Altera on Earth has no connection to the one on the moon other than providing the memory feedback for the imputes for Titan Altera to not become Sephar instantly. They're disconnected after Earth Sephar died.
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>>166069253
Liz is made for bullying. It's her most endearing quality.
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>>166069087
No, it's in the main story and in the materials. So fuck off Alteramemer.
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>>166069336
her tiny tits are cute
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>>166069371
Learn to read
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>>166069371
He ran to Gil, then died to spam.
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>>166069154
The base of people who liked Altera was small, tame, and no one used her for shitposting purposes.

Now she's got fucking linked to powerlevel wanking when she never was before. I'd take the fucking trade off of learning her personality from her profile and lines if it meant the autists who have latched onto her now never did.
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>>166069496
Yes? And he won Gilgamesh's respect. After he lost his chariot and ate a Ea from the beginning. He had bad compatibility with Gil.

He doesn't have bad compatibility with Altera who doesn't have any Anti World NP.
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Kyatto!
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>>166069454
>Liz is made for bullying.
That's actually Passionlip, who had it even worse than Liz, although she just appeared in one chapter.
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>>166069583
Most servants, heck, even fucking Shirou can hold of Gil's swordspam for awhile before going down, I Don't recall iskadner even attempting to protecting himself from the rain.
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>Bond Choice in Extella without a chance to save prior
>Last save was 20 minutes earlier

PANIC
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>>166069636
>someone made for bullying means there can't be someone else also made for bullying
CCCfags sure are an obnoxious bunch.
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>>166069583
Altera is anti civilization and anti humanity why would she give a fuck about his reality marble bullshit, she has the sword of Mars
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>>166069529
If powerlevel autism affects your enjoyment of a character then you're going to have slim pickings to choose from.
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>>166069682
I just back out to the main menu, then go back into story mode, seems to work fine
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>>166069737
Yes.
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I wish Nito was my mom.
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>>166069737
No fuck off
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>Extra is rock/paper/scissors
How the fuck am I supposed to predict this?
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>>166069664
Because Gil doesn't take them seriously, retard.
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>>166069813
Learning the patterns of the different enemy types
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>>166069737
>>>/pol/
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>>166069756
I never said I enjoyed her less, just that now she's an instrument for melvin tier retards to shitpost about things Nasu himself doesn't think about.

I fucking hate seeing her used like that when she never was before.
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>>166069813
Each enemy has a fixed pattern. Fight enough and some slots will unlock, you'll also memorize yourself their patterns. Or use the show all inputs cheat.
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>>166069737
No he's the epitome of normalfag, are you retarded? Is Chad the quarterback our guy too?
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>>166069529
Nah, fuck that and fuck your stuff

Its the same as Zero, in the sense that she gets some momentary fans at the moment but they're gone a few days or weeks later at worst. Even though no one really cares about her at the moment, people just care about Iskandar being strong.

People were told since FGO that Atilla is super strong and people still have a problem with it and argue about it, but that's not going to change any time. People have been shitposting her for her appearance and power since the start. In FGO she's called a bad memory for all divine spirits.

However getting back to the point, the momentary fans will be gone soon, we'll be left with a game that gave her a lot of good and cute moments that were worth it. She's heavy waifu/daughter tier for a lot of people now, when she had almost no personality in FGO.
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If power levels don't matter then why does Nero need the regalia boost just so that she can still be weaker than Altera and then only win due to bad writing?

If compatibility mattered more than power levels then she wouldn't need the regalia
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>>166069724
>Altera is anti civilization and anti humanity
>making up shit
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>>166069841
>thinking Gil taking Shirou seriously would have made any difference

This is why people laugh at Gilfags.
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>>166069737
Everybody wants a (You), this proves Trump is a shitposter like us.

Here's yours.
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>Alterafags actually thinking the ones bringing up Altera isn't to shit post against her
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>>166069865
>Nasu doesn't think about
nice headcanon retard, when he writes that Altera is stronger than regalia boosted servants he is thinking about power levels you dumb fucking shit

>>166069950
What else is she shitter she's literally the spawn of an anti humanity Ayylmao and carries around the sword of a war God which almost eradicated humanity
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>>166069813
Skills override attack commands made by all players on that turn. Hakuno and Tamamo also have stuns to remove rng
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>>166069935
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>>166069813
R/P/S is a meme

Its really more about predicting patterns. The game starts you off on a floor that's the most piss easy to figure out patterns ever. Its basically AAABBB or GGGAAA at first. They get you to slowly figure out how it works. You can see a few of the enemies moves, you can see maybe AxxGxx. You know taht means the pattern is most likely AAAGGG. If you're unsure of anything you can use an item mid-battle or use a master code cast.

You'd literally have to fail every command during a battle for two rounds in a row in order to fuck things up, before you start to understand how the system works.

Then they start working into you with enemies that have patterns that are ABABAB or AGAGAG. Maybe even AABAAB on the next floor. Its not too hard to pick up after a bit, see all the patterns. But it is monotonous. Everything is patterns, its never random. The game is all about figuring out patterns and guessing each move.
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>a whole thread about powerlevels autism from Extella

W-What if we talk about FGO?
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>>166070214
>Implying Extella isn't FGO

Nice try shill
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>>166070108
Nah fuck off retard, Nasu doesn't think about this shit indepth like you fucking autists do. Why the hell do you think he retcons shit all time and just makes it up as he goes?
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>>166070108
>What else is she shitter she's literally the spawn of an anti humanity Ayylmao and carries around the sword of a war God which almost eradicated humanity
Show the stats of her mats page. Pretty sure it says Anti Army.
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>>166070214
[insert ironic response about cucking and dango and how much better it is to talk about it instead]
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>>166070214
casters are the strongest class in fgo
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>>166070214
>playing no content FGO
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I know we say gil, artoria and DUDE are all shitty kings but can we name some good kings who can be servants?

Richard? Charlemagne?
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>>166070214
Wanna talk about sakuraiwank?
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>>166070347
>I know we say gil, artoria and DUDE are all shitty kings but can we name some good kings who can be servants?
We just got Solomon though, you can't really top him.
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>>166070289
Show me where he retconned Altera into being weaker than Nero oh wait you can't because he didn't
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I'm glad Extella came out and finally settled the hypohtetical powerlevel bullshit you people kept arguing over.

It's good to have an official updated powerlevel chart with a lot of servants going at each other in the same title for proper power measuring
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>Tamamo starts rubbing herself on you to masturbate while you sleep
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>>166070282
Where's Merlin if its FGO?
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When?
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>>166070436
Yeah it's nice having Gawain admit to being weaker than Karna and getting all flustered when Karna tells him it's no biggie.
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>>166069813
Memorize their patterns.

It gets more interesting once it's a Servant battle.
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>>166070424
I'm not getting baited into your autistic powerlevel argument no on will remember a couple hours from now.

You're thinking about shit Nasu doesn't because you have autism.
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>>166070347
Dietrich, he's basically German King Arthur. Just lesser known.
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>>166070325
Casters and Shielder.

>>166070401
Keep him out the silly arguments and posturing.
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What ces do I put on these lads
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>>166070436
>official updated powerlevel chart
You mean the one that doesn't mean shit because powerlevels don't mean a thing?

The plot makes whatever servant it wants to win. There is no chart.
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>>166070645
One of those lads is sad not rad
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>>166070347
David, Ozymandias, Romulus, Solomon are already Servants, but you can't roll the later. Yet.
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>>166070627
I thought that was Karl der Große? Except for the part where he's not fictional.
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>>166070602
Nasu made an effort to include power levels when he made Nero have regalia which is confirmed to be a power level boost and then not only made Nero weaker than Altera still but also made Altera not even use her regalia

he takes power levels into account or he wouldn't bother making regalia about power at all
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>>166070707
He will be rad when I get more exp
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>>166070741
That's not powerlevels, that's convenient plot points he can use to cover his ass.
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I was about to argue DUDE being on Altera's level is fucking nonsense but then I heard Lu Bu fought evenly with Numeral Gawain for a bit

Wtf I love Extella now
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>>166070738
>Ozymandias
He was an idiot manchild both in Fragments and Camelot.
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Queen Medb!
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>>166070740
Well, you already said Charlemagne, so I just put forth another possibility. I do want to see the bullshit they pull with Dietrich if they do appear, because he was a subject of Etzel/Atilla the Hun during his thirty two year exile.
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>>166062908
DESU being the first recorded epic is kinda a big deal. Besides in pretty sure in most countries they make you read the epic of gilgamesh in literature class.
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>>166070849
He's a manchild because he's young, but he's a good king and is specified in his profile. Even in Camelot he was posturing and Sanzou called him out.
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>>166070846
So rider lubu with more skills and expertise will beat numeral gawain?
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>>166070826
plot points that have everything to do with power levels

if he doesn't care about power levels then why bring them up at all, why would it matter if Nero unboosted by regalia bullshit beats Altera based on "compatibility"

Because Nasu cares about power levels and cares about making sure they are noted
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>>166070846
Lu Bu is said to be on Numeral Gawain's level. Its said that in Lu Bu's ending you can understand the basis for his mysterious speech or something. Chen Gong showed up.

Lu Bu goes by the name "Unequaled under heavens and Earth"
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>Alteramemers still salty because BRO can keep up with her
You memers forgot about his EX NP?
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>>166070875
“Kesh Temple Hymn” is older.
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>>166069935
That's like saying compatibility doesn't matter because Shirou needed UBW to fight Gil.

In both cases it's an outside assistance that gives them the ability to win but the user is still the one who wins despite being less powerful
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>>166069737
Thank you janny/mod.

If only you were a bit more strict on other blatant shitposts around here.
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>>166070846
Fucking Lu Bu beat Numeral Gawain when I played Tamamo route
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>>166071064
>he's now unconquerable AND Unequaled

How can mere JET compete
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>>166069854
>>166069874
>>166070136
>>166070186
Oh, okay. Thanks.
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>>166070875
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_literature
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>>166071119
Someone you're equal to, you'll win against him sometimes or lose sometimes.

In one world he lost, in one world he won.
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>>166071048
Because Nasu loves situational shit over powerlevel wanking. Powerlevels mean fucking nothing in this series.
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>>166071086
UBW is something Shirou naturally has access to

Nero doesn't always have regalia, it's a total outside thing that Nasu invented to boost her power level and wank Altera and her power level by proxy
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>>166071016
Well.

I'd never have argued that before now.

But if Berserker Lu Bu, whose missing the thing Lu Bu is most known for (His skill), then yeah Rider Lu Bu should be fucking overpowered-

>>166071064
'Unequaled'

Guan Yu fag btfo. Even unequaled in heaven, puny god.

>>166071119
UNCONQUERABLE HOLY SHIT
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Guys, the FAQ says that when I reroll I lose my old account unless I have a binding code which it suggests getting so I can keep the account and hoard quatrz on it. So is there a way to fuse the new, rerolled account with the previous account by using the binding code? I tried this but didn't have any success.
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>>166071169
Just look up "Fate Extra guide, attack patterns"

For easy mode
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This is my son.
Say something mean to him.
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>>166071297
It's still a situational thing that Shirou has no possible way of activating without a "power boost" from Rin
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>>166071284
Except regalia existing at all to boost Nero's power level undermines your point

If Nasu cares about situational shit beating power levels then regalia wouldn't exist at all, Nero would just win as is

Instead it's power level boosted Nero who had to win, because Nasu wouldn't allow a weak Nero to win and shame his new power level darling who wasn't fighting with her full power anyway to give her another excuse to lose
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>>166071297
Yeah, that's clearly the only reason. It has no other purpose in the story.
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>>166071331
Lu Bu has fame and territory bonus at the moment though, since its a Musou game.
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>>166071425
Regalia itself is fucking situational shit retard
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>>166066093
>>A number of them are called stronger than Alexander himself,

I'm not sure why people think this is that big a deal when Iskander runs from a melee confrontation with Saber because he admits he's nothing special as a foot warrior and would get creamed. Being better than Iskander in combat but without NPs is really nowhere near a big deal.
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>>166071425
>Instead it's power level boosted Nero who had to win, because Nasu wouldn't allow a weak Nero to win and shame his new power level darling who wasn't fighting with her full power anyway to give her another excuse to lose
Please just stop. I feel like reading your posts is making me stupider.
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>>166071550
But don't you know he's now at the same level as a Planet that wipes out nearly all life on Earth? :^)
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>>166071550
Gilgamesh also avoids confronting Saber in a hand to hand battle in Zero. What's your point? He even placed himself in front of the Grail because he knew she wouldn't be able to attack him. Are you calling Gil "nothing special" too?
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>>166071438
why does it have to explicitly boost the power level though retard? Because Nasu wants there to be power level shit

>>166071516
>>166071415
yeah situational shit that is used to wank Altera since even with that Altera BTFOs Nero, but Nasu felt the need to add it because otherwise it shames Altera too much in his eyes to lose to someone who isn't power level boosted by what is effectively moon cell God mode

Shirou would eventually get good enough to UBW on his own, Nero would never get Regalia outside of moon cell shit

it's not remotely comparable to UBW
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>>166070645
Anyone?
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>>166070849
I think he got a pretty alright showing in each of those. In Camelot he had good justification for his actions and was fairly reasonable once you'd provided him with a new course of action. You could say he made more mistakes in Fragments, such as not trying to gather more allies and being too obvious about who he was, but in the end things were still very close to working out for him and would have gone his way if only Caster hadn't betrayed the pact between their masters.
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>>166071684
At straight up swordplay?
Yeah.
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>>166071343
Awesome. This makes things much better.
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Time to redo my thread introduction

Ahem

THE UNCONQUERABLE AND UNEQUALED ON EARTH OR IN HEAVEN, ON PAR WITH NUMERAL BOOSTED GAWAIN, LU BU FENGXIAN IS HERE!
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>>166071706
>yeah situational shit
Glad to see you're agreeing with me and we've come to the conclusion Fate is all about situational shit.
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>>166071827
How strong is numeral gawain?
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>>166071752
Nope, Gilgamesh is afraid to confront her physically. He even jumps the fuck out her range in UBW.
In Zero, he makes effort to avoid not just Saber but a completely beaten up Saber who had issues to move using the Grail as hostage. You're undermining Saber a lot. She probably can easily defeat Altera in battle.
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>>166071684
>Gilgamesh also avoids confronting Saber in a hand to hand battle in Zero. What's your point?

Precisely that. Saying "Stronger than Gilgamesh but with no NP" or "Stronger than Iskander but with no NP" is a real low bar when both are only dangerous because of their NPs and are noted to not really be anything special as warriors.

>Are you calling Gil "nothing special" too?

As a melee warrior without use of his NPs? Absolutely.
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>>166071643
>at the same level as a Planet that wipes out nearly all life on Earth? :^)
Why are you intentionally shitposting? Atilla isn't Sefar. Atilla is somewhere between Cu and Iskandar level power.
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>>166070458
Titan Altera is cute.
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>>166071867
except Altera being stronger than Nero 100% of the time isn't situational at all, it's consistent fact
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>>166071904
Do you have a problem understanding words?
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>>166071331
>implying LuBu servant is stronger than Guan Yu who is much more famous and have way more legends and most likely NPs
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>>166071827
>ON PAR WITH NUMERAL BOOSTED GAWAIN
Only on par with, and not greater?
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>>166071941
Attila is equal to Iskandar confirmed by materials and confirmed as being so much stronger than Cu that Cu wouldn't even think about fighting her you retard

>>166071904
Arturia struggled against nerfed Cu and he wouldn't even fight Altera at his best you idiot
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>>166071891
Strong enough that UNRIVALED can't beat him without stalling until nightfall so

Pretty strong

>>166072054
> Couldn't even beat Lu Bu with Zhang Fei helping him out

Go hang out with Liu Bei's brain damaged child
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>>166072009
How's that overcome? Situational shit, you're proving my point that powerlevels don't matter. Now fuck off melvin.
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I found Kek
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>>166072178
nice ingame digits
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>>166072157
You're just mad Guan Yu will end up with more NPs and skills than lubu
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>>166072103
Beat Gawain in one route, lost in another, so yeah just on par with.

Fuck off Lucius, go get wanked off more by Sakurai
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>>166072157
>trusting shitty reddit translations

Original nip text never used the word stall.
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>>166072149
>Arturia struggled
You mean Shirou's Arturia who didn't even get any prana pushed his shit as Nasu points it so delicately.

Arturia was the most nerfed one in that battle, bro.
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>>166072149
>Attila is equal to Iskandar confirmed by materials

You have no idea which materials you're even referring to not have any hope of quoting the page you're pretending to be reading from.

>>166072149
>Arturia struggled against nerfed Cu

You need to go reread that fight. Artoria is very decidedly pushing him back and only takes a wound when he uses Gae Bolg.
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>>166072178
>Micropenis so small you can't see it
/pol/ btfo
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>>166072174
You mean bad writing

Saying power levels only lose to situational power levels being higher or near equal is still power levels

If Nero didn't have regalia boost and was just normal Nero beating Altera then yeah, maybe compatibility or whatever other Nasu bullshit would exist but instead it's just power level A losing to situational (read, bad writing) power level B
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>>166069971
Thats the point if the fight retard. Gilgamesh lost because he is careless.
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>>166072261
Mad? Not at all ShuShitter

My boy just got power boosted to Numeral Gawain tier, and that's while psychotic and unable to show his true skills or even all the functions of his NP

Meanwhile your boy-

Oh Right

He isn't even in it
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>>166072395
He wouldn't have been able to do anything against UBW even if serious, Shirou wouldn't give him any time to pull Ea.
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How do I play the side stories in Extella?
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This is your Caster for the night.
https://twitter.com/muoto911/status/822221838486933505/photo/1
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>>166072486
Unlock the characters by going through the main story
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>>166072527
Can I exchange for a better one?
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>>166071827
I want to fuck diao chan
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>>166072638
Diao Chan is for UNCONQUERABLE's exclusive use, go hold pinkies with Mata Hari
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So what's better for caster pieces? The 30 AP or 40 AP node?
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>>166072390
This is like talking to an autistic wall. You're agreeing with what i'm saying but rewording it to fit your narrative.
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>>166072325
He's certainly saying shit in a dumb way and taking things out of meaning, but I can't exactly say he's far off either.

Its like a game of telephone, first guy says something, then it slowly gets more warped as it goes along. Then some guy is shouting a hyperbole version of it after awhile. Even if its saying something kinda close its still not quite right anymore. I got a snippet materials, will post in a moment since its on phone rather than laptop.
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>>166072735
>fucking THIS

Do not want
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>>166070214
>we are not /tmg/ they said

KEK
E
K
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NR or Helena?
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>>166072934
Tough luck.
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Someone bake
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>>166073303
No
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>>166073040
Helena.
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>>166072912
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>>166073303
Sure, I'll do it.
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>>166073419
Cu and Gawain confirmed shit tier, can't even match Iskandar
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>>166063907
why is gudako so scary
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>>166071716
You definitely want some NP charge for Beowulf, preferably Kaleidoscope but Sumo could work well too, his NP is his selling point since it's pretty strong.
King Hassan could probably use stuff that raises the effectiveness of his buster commands I guess? No idea on Extra Vlad.
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>>166073623
Because she's a literal cuck now, cucks are scary people. They ruin their own lives, kill off self preservation instincts, want to be less than dirt, and jack off to horrible things.

Jack off to people calling them shit and they'd want anyone except them, the thought of their lover leaving them saying that they don't satisfy them and they always hated them, the most masochstic fetish even more than ball busting. You want someone to emotionally destroy and reject you, especially the ones closest to you. As you get off on it.
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>>166073815
Why does that sound like me?
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>>166072276
He never really beat Gawain. Not even in Fragments. Gawain was sent flying by Lucius' attack and probably landed somewhere else on the battlefield. Arthur and Lucius started their duel almost immediately after that.
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>>166073856
You're probably halfway there already
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>>166072737
consult the spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TrfSDteVZnjUPz68rKzuZWZdZZBLqw03FlvEToOvqH0/edit#gid=1753945728
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where the fuck is the bread
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Hurry up or I'll bake it faggot
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>>166073815
Both her snake and kouhai left her in one day. What a shitty master.
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>>166074012
In the bread basket silly.
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>>166073815
>Because she's a literal cuck now, cucks are scary people. They ruin their own lives, kill off self preservation instincts, want to be less than dirt, and jack off to horrible things.
I'd like to have her as girlfriend. I'd fuck other superior girls in front of her for her despairgasm alone.
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>>166074093
>>166074093
>>166074093
Here's your new bread.
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