/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

>>165639421
I couldn't get the OP pasta, so I just copied it. Sorry.

>>165639468
It...It isn't hard at all.
Literally you just copy/paste the pastebin version.

>>165640336
I didn't notice it until afterwards, but when I opened the pastebin link, I accidentally selected the "(embed)" after it, breaking the link.

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Fucking hell these kidnappings.

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bump

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>>165639421

>>165644867
>no Zuntir, Vabok, Kubuk, or Olin
>abandon and retry

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>mfw I got too greedy when grinding my swimming

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>>165646627
>find your body
>put on your armor
>grit your teeth and wear the frostbite scars proudly

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What did he mean by this?

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>tfw you realise that one of our resident drawfags is so well known that he has a suggestion on google search

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To the guy that said he cant enjoy games no more. I mean i cant enjoy them either, Unless i have a job. Im unemployed right now. And its all i can do while i apply to jobs and i hate it! But when i work and i don't feel like going out cause there was to much traffic that day. I can gladly go home play some games and wait till the weekend before i go out. By the way what the fuck is /pol/ doing in my Df?

>>165651049
Everyone likes war when it's their side that's winning.

>>165649387
Race war now, gas the elves. Time of the rope is now

>tfw always read the updates on bay12 in batches
>reading about these "agents"

holy shit

toady is a madman, there's no way the code will be able to handle this

>>165651049
>likes war
>hates weapons
Curious is the trapmaker's art

begone page 10

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>>165652638
It can almost do it now, the groundwork is there.

>>165653313
he just wants to fight with his bare hands

>>165656195
fuck forgot to turn the trip off, sorry lads

>>165652638
he has been a madman since he started the game ten years ago buddy
I can't believe I was born on the right time to see this masterpiece get created
Its easily the most ambitious game ever created, and its facing complexity and problems no other dev has faced before

>>165656281
np nig

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Where the fuck is the Troll raw

>>165658370
Probably standard?

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>>165658495
Im fucking retarded

someone made a post in a previous thread about how they raised the starting discipline skill in their worlds so that average people respond to threats more often. also something about bandit stuff.

Are you still here? Can you or anyone else explain how to raise the starting discipline skill when creating a world?

>>165659037
not him but just enter creature raws and paste [NATURAL_SKILL:DISCIPLINE:X] into every creature you want augmented
where X is a number from 0 to 15
most of the creatures you want to change are likely in creature_standard

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>>165659037

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Cheating#All_Skills_Legendary

Go there or if you are fucking lazy asshole. and for everyone else benefit.

Put this under Creature:Dwarf in creature_standard.txt

[NATURAL_SKILL:DISCIPLINE:16] Thats legendary. 1 is Novice,


>>165659304
or do this


I reclaimed a fort in world with dying dwarves. And got all this shit automatically with it. Pretty cool.

>>165659304
>>165659585
thanks guys

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How do I enable multilevel view in TWBT?

Ya know what i love about cheating? I get to do sick shit like this! a veil made of SKIN! and i can make some of goblin skin! so whenever i kill a creature instead of its skin being useless. I make clothes with it out of the gui/create-item menu! YES! My warchief is gonna look badass!

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>>165661619
are you 12?

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>>165661619
fuck i forgot my picture.

>>165661717
yea and im unemployed.

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can't this guy go five minutes without talking about himself?
he's easily the worst '''''''famous''''''' user in the forums I've seen
yes, I do count meph

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>>165663309
>"haha it would be a shame if someone used the new mechanics to make a vore mod if you catch my drift"
>"yeah I have no idea, but let's return to the matter at hand..."
>"a VORE mod, if you catch my drift" *nudge nudge*
The forum would be a slightly less unpleasant place if he disappeared.

>>165663309
that's why non anonymous forums are cancer

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>>165663309
>>165664334
>>165663904
You guys are paying to much attention to people. So what? the guy is obsessed with himself. Let him be. For all you know he has nothing going for him in life except this.

By the way am i the only guy here who is OBSESSED! with the new specify image thing toady added? Seriously every time i create a Temple. I create a statue of that god with a image. And i carve them on walls in that temple. Anyone else do this? I thought this was gonna be a garbage feature but it is actually pretty badass to make figurines of this image and sell em!

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>>165663309
>But in MYYyyyyeee fort!
>o3o
What a tardbucket.

Anybody remember if there was a way to set ALL beds to automatically be bedrooms?

Man i hope Dfhack can come up with a way so i do not have to make bedrooms for each bed!

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>>165663904
>>165664334
worst of all is that people were talking about fucking adding torture to the game in the fof thread and he derailed the conversation

>>165664945
max, dont defend him, he doesnt deserve it

>>165665357
What is wrong with torture so much? I mean it makes sense. We are playing a game based in a fucked up world. Torturing goblin spy's does not seem edgy compared to other shit in this game.

Also i got to say i have a king. Who mandated we make backpacks, than that we cannot export backpacks.

>>165666258
>Torturing goblin spy's does not seem edgy compared to other shit in this game
it's utterly irreconcilable with dwarven ethics. dwarves in DF are literally lawful good at its most extreme.

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>>165666258
the thing is that bay12 is pretty weird in some stuff
You can bash a mother with the corpse of a baby and nobody bats an eye, but certain subjects will get bashed for various reasons
The fact that rubik talked about torture, and that the general consensus after him was positive towards adding the mechanic is a very good thing, because toady'll know that its a feature well seen by the community
RandomDragon had to step in the conversation and derail it
now he's bashing Toady again, because he didnt do what he wanted

>>165666686
WTF.

Goblin sites are the only sites in the game that can't support farms (elf sites don't have farms in vanilla, but the plots they use to grow their trees can also be used for farms). I think that fact carries a pretty strong implication that gobbos aren't meant to eat. That, and the fact that they are the otherworldly servants of demons.

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>>165666528
>>165666686
i guess i honestly dont care if they add torture, or if they dont. both work for me. Than again i just enjoyed the combat, and this new Detail system! I love it. I made a axe blade of gold and studded it with copper. And i told him to just make an image related to cyclops. And i got this. Pretty cool! my fellow dwarven trading brothers should pay me well for it! I mean think of it. You get sawed in half. And before you die you admire the beautiful copper image on the blade of a historical event!

>>165667447
yeah man, but imagine a torture system with the same level of detail
Personally its both the fact that you cant control your strength, and the fact that you can't 'interact' with the people sorrounding you that makes me want torture added

If I play goblins, and im at war with dwarves, humans and elves, when do the sieges start to show up? still at 80 pop?

>>165644867
One miner? Get out.
>lmao 7mine

>>165669269

Yep, although I don't think humans send ambushers.

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>>165670649
>tfw my embark is 3 miners
>every single wave gets me at least 2-3 new miners no matter what they come with
>when I get 10 legendary+5 miners I create a warpick squadron

fuck me a weregoat just came and butchered my fisherdwarves
this is what I get for wanting to make a fishing village, he was on them and tearing them apart before they could get back to the safety of the cage traps

>>165671471
>what we mining today boss
>goblinite

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>>165671471
I always take a Women who will be Doctor and one who is Trader.

I also try to take a male Warrior.

>>165672913
My embark is
>3 dorfs with 5 levels into mining
>1 dorf with 5 woodcutting/5 carpentry
>1 dorf with 5 cooking/5 brewing
>1 dorf with 5 plant gatherer/5 grower
>1 dorf with appraiser, judge of intent, record keeper and that 4th skill I forgot for universal starter noble
Then all children get onto farming thanks to therapist, while all men get drafted to military, and women just get jobs that are needed in the fort, which usually is more fisherdorfs/fish cleaners/millers because fish&flour based diet is breddy good

>>165673114

>He doesn't embark with a mason

There's not really any reason to run your fort like an armed camp after 34.11. With the new standing order system for the manager you don't even have to issue direct orders for most things anymore.

>>165673484
I don't need a starting mason, I usually get one within first 2 waves, and even if I don't, you can train one quickly just by mass producing shit rock cabinets and pots

>>165673619
YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT! rock art is important! Fucking get this elf out of here. Disgusting ROCK ART is DWARVEN LIFE!

Look at this! im ready for this! i cant wait to do an aussie fort where it will be just like real life living off bugs and other giant insects.

>>165673815
ebic

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>>165673815
I keep doing this. Damnit.

>>165673114
>paying for woodcutting
>paying for brewing
>paying for cooking
>paying for plant gathering
i don't even

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If you had a memorial dedicated to you, what would it say?

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>>165674872
Probably not a whole lot

>>165674005
I really need to start playing with perfectworld
too bad Im a complete ignorant on everything that its not vanilla

>>165674005
thats really fucking cool, its even called earth and has evil region in america and southeast europe

can you make bigger-than-standard worlds with perfectworld? because if that's an actual world-sized world, I quit life

>>165675749
>>165676371
i dont use perfect world i found this here

http://dfworlds.alexjj.com/worlds/earth-10

>>165674005
Why is the entire ocean evil lawd jesus

>>165677631
Because he forgot to set good/evil squares in large regions to 0.

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Does being legendary misc object user affect much or is it basically irrelevant?

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>building a fort
>playing with libraries and taverns
>no military yet despite being in the caverns
>forgotten beast appears
>kills a bunch of dwarves
>I draft the rest and have them attack
>it kills everyone
>except two kids
>forgotten beast goes to the taverns, where some visiting bards and soldiers are
>gets rekt
>now a fortress of foreign bards and two orphans
Pic related, the survivors.

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>>165679608
Seems like the miasma and death has got the foreigners down too.

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>>165680421
>he is one hundred eighty-nine years old
Huh

>>165680779
I had a dwarf that was 283 year old before the one I screencapped bit his head off.

>>165680879
Seems a bit too old for a dwarf, don't you think?

>>165681080
Not if he's a vegan.

>>165681080
not if you delete dwarven maxage

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>>165681080
This is vanilla DF. I didnt mod anythig.

>>165681604
I'm afraid that he might not be just a regular dwarf.

>>165681604
he was a vamp or werebeast

>>165682030
Yeah I've just found a corpse drained off blood in the moad.
Guess the werebeast saved me from a vampire.
Killing 30 other dwarves in the meantime.

>>165678372
do you liek hitttting with stieks?

>>165678372
Bashing people with shields is Misc User, iirc.
Also, it's essentially the "improvised weapon skill." Makes you deadly with everything from carving forks and anvils to disembodied limbs to live vermin.

>>165682423
Shield bashing is still horribly worthless even with legendary misc user though. Shields just suck as weapons. Too much contact area, no force.

>>165682526
I wonder what's better for bashing, shields or bucklers

Does anyone know if DFHACK has a find feature on embark? Like if i wanted to find a place with specific ore such as Tetra, and Gold. Or Tertra and flux.? I am using the prospect all command. but did dfhack ever implement a find?

>>165684661
30 seconds with the DFhack manual:
>If prospect is called during the embark selection screen, it displays an estimate of layer stone availability.

What do you fags look for in a mod?

Is putnam's weapon stuff full of shit or should I use it?

>>165685193
i know about that. Im using it right now. I was asking if there is a specific find function such as ( prospect find gold) but i don't think there is. O well. Found a good spot anywhere. Gonna play where i live on world map.

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poo when?

>>165661021
I don't know if you're still here, multilevel is dfhack command, so you want to put its settings in dfhack.init.
When you downloaded TWBT there should have been a file called README that contains the relevant multilevel commands and default settings.
If you fucked up dfhack will yell at you on startup.

>>165686523
does rendermax work with the newest version?

>>165686685
I'm sorry to say I don't know; I've never used it.

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>>165682526
Izzat right?

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happening

>>165690125
the fuck is that

>>165687730
now I dont know what hungry heads are, but my mind thought of them as little vicious beings waiting to be bigger and uncontrolable
Now I want to have the tools to make creatures change from [benign] to [evil] after becoming adults

Imagine having a caste of psycopathic dwarves that were identical to normal dwarves and had a fixed small chance of being born
They behave like normal dwarves for twelve years and bam, they start killing people and not having any remorse
We could totally get chronical mental diseases in the game using this method, what the fuck

>>165690471
looks like typical minruls

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>>165690471
Rutile.

>>165690563
>A fearsome, long-toothed mouth the size of a man's head, flying on bat wings. It is found in deep caves.

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>accept a qt 28yo human performer girl into your fort
>check her kill list
>see this
It seems that she's a war vet. It's a pretty impressive kill count for a lesser hist fig. It's likely all from the same battle, too.

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>>165692315
Seems like her pa is already a mercenary in our service, too.

>>165692315
>only killed female elves
Seems like she has a complex.

>>165692847
>imblyign anyone can tell the difference

>>165692926
Well she obviously could.

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>>165692529
It also seems like her highest combat skill is lashing. That's kinda hot, I guess. And kinda worthless. She only got those kills due to worldgen magic.

>>165693126
Worthless? Aren't whips OP?

>>165693126
Whips aren't as strong as they used to be, but they're still really good. Pick one up from the next human caravan and put her to work with it.

>>165693262
I think they were finally nerfed.

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>>165692847
why can't we have emotionally damaged tsunderes in this game you life-less toad
I just want overly emotional cuties getting jelaous of my female friends

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If your dwarves had twitter, what would they write? What would the gobbos write?

>>165693660
Isn't coleguita one of the words for "friend" or "little friend" in spanish?

>>165694334
spanish for friend is "mellon" or something

>>165694887
Correct. Also the password for getting past trump's wall.

>>165694334
yep, it started as a friendship anon

On an unrelated affair, can I make sentient people butcherable?
and how would I go about making the heart of a species give me an ability

>>165694887
dont know what the fuck is that, it certainly is not spanish

>>165695010
I'm irrationally angry with you for not getting anon's reference.

>>165695224
Well guess what, I didn't get it either.

>>165695224
if he's referencing to something, I'm completely oblivious, please explain

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>>165694993

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>>165695381
>>165695440
Here's a hint: it's a reference to the classic genre-defining work of literature (and now film) of which Dwarf Fortress is directly and unambiguously derivative.

>>165696039
I didn't know Spanish existed in the LotR universe.

>>165696039
>no simmetry
>no stairs stack
>cluttered chambers
>slim corridors

tolkien is a hack

>>165696513
>the endless stair

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>>165696240

>>165696039
I still don't get it

Sorry

>>165698521
>>165696240
By the nine gods of disdain, y'all stupid.

>>165698521
Oh wait, now I got it

It's not funny at all though

>>165698668
Yeah the reference is only really worth making if you know the other person is super into LOTR, otherwise that's a bit of a stretch.

Anyway. Moria is cool.

>>165665357
Uh?

So do we hate max or do we like max

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>>165665357
Fuck, teach me to eat and post.

>>165703306
Doesn't matter.

>>165703190
>>165703365
I actually like maxtm, but I always get the feeling that he writes certain posts, dunno why
maybe he has his own particular style

>>165703713
Yeah, it's really easy to know which posts he made.

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>>165703713
Sometimes people do this, and I don't know why, if you want to be certain you gotta check the filename/look for squarehatred.

>>165658370
>not memorizing where every flora&fauna is categorized

>>165696039
i'm pretty sure i've seen this picture anotated showing how shitty a fort it would be.

anyone has it?
didn't find it in my dank dorf meme folder.

>>165706459
considering that it literally has "troll pits" in there the starting seven would probably get killed on embark

>>165706459
Just the size of the embark alone would make it unplayable. Not to mention the stone count.

>>165706553
Assuming the trolls didn't just hang out picking their noses, they're very passive outside of an active siege.

>>165706553
Not in the current version. Trolls are docile as cavies since the mid-.40 morale tweaks happened.

>>165706553
>>165706786

>trollball isn't implemented yet

It's a bad feel, they can actually do it now too, with gibberish mid-throw included

What number will the next version be?

48?

>>165707101
thats a good question

>>165707101
My guess is .46, and myth/magic will be .50.

>>165707101
I'm leaning towards .48 still since he's putting in so much groundwork stuff and the whole identity links.

>>165667262
Yeah. It's not an oversight. Goblins don't eat because Toady One thought they'd be more fearsome that way.
Presumably they subsist on evil alone.

>>165673114
I just hit "embark now" unless the site is inhospitable and I really need a wagonload of logs or boulders or warhammers to survive the first year.

>>165708016
>>165667262
Goblins in DF are immortal and don't eat, doesn't this make them akin to golems?

Is a goblin in DF just an automaton to the demons?

Are goblins in DF even self-aware?

>>165674005
>no volcanoes in Iceland
>no volcanoes in Italy
You fucked up.

>>165674872
>In memory of Anonymous
>Suffocated in the year 2017
>At one with anime

>>165708453
Given the philosophy they engage in, yes they are supposed to be as aware as anyone else, but much longer lived. Elves also possess immortality but no souls, making them worse than goblins.

>>165708453
I wouldn't say akin, they just a have a thing or two more in common with golems than humans do. Goblins reproduce, they grow, they create a culture, they have individual personalities and goals as much as any other sentient creature, unlike any golems I've ever seen in fantasy.
Goblins' presumably supernatural origin doesn't really make them more like golems than any other creature; humans and dwarves and elves all poof into existence at the beginning of the world too, they're just not dependent on a specific brand of supernatural creature to do so. For all we know dwarves are created from the stone by their gods, or even by the same demons that goblins arise from. When the myth/magic arc releases we won't have to guess about it anymore. We'll have actual golems and creation myths and we'll be able to take a given world and decide just how similar any two supernatural creatures really are.

>>165709552
CLAY OF MY CLAY

>>165709679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vffl7NWmso

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>smoky quartz
>no smoke comes out when hit

>>165711351
>smoky quartz
>it's deformed and disgusting

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>Smoky Opal
>all it does is get high and complain about white priviledge

are there any plans in Toady's grand vision to add pulleys and tackles?

>rose quartz
>refuses to get mined

I need fort design ideas, mainly entrances and the like. Post yours or cool ones, just want a 110 pop cap fort that comifuly holds off goblins.

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>>165712949
Dunno, but he got cat behavior down perfectly.

newfag here, I want to embark on a mountain, are there any issues I should look forward to? I have embark anywhere on, and I think caravans can still reach me since civs show up in the neighbors screen

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>>165706553
>>165706758
>>165706459
>>165696039
There is. Actually a QUickfort design for moria. even a "mini" version. IT IS FUCKING HUGE!!! and it is fucking TERRIBLE! gameplay wise.


>>165713168
not quite i need to see this! in game.

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>it's great when we all get a chance to be merry together
is she just a very positive person or is she in her denial stage of sorrow and grief?

>>165714509
LOL o god. make her into a warrior. Maybe she will go into a martial trance after experiencing all that.


Also anyone else having quickfort issues? For instance my designations have half the plan missing. On every single one.

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>leave travel mode to sneak up on an ambush
>buncha human recruits start shanking an ostrich
>run off in terror after looking at me
>smart kids
>one runs up next to me by mistake
>yields immediately
>rest yakety sax around after ostriches
>zombie giant alligator runs up and eats an ostrich
>laugh and wait as it comes towards us

>>165713704
True, they don't quite derp like that, but it's close

>>165713608
Probably not LOL

>>165714509
>she didn't feel anything
damn son looks like there's something wrong with her

>>165714664
Thanks to this issue i finally used digfort for the first time. ANd made a template with excel. Lot easier than i thought.

>amber opal
>actually opal and not amber

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This woman has killed 41 enemies in the defense of our great fort, including goblins, elves, giants, and werechameleons. She once cut a forgotten beast in half with a single blow. And this is what they make a statue of.

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>make post
>thread dies

>>165718253
HAHAHAHAH. Well if you want the world to be populated with stories of her bad assery you better start making a bunch of figurines with custom images of her and sell em to every body who comes to trade.

>have a 60 dwarf fortress
>a glass FB attacks that spews toxic gas
>send war hammer dwarves in
>they all die
>beast crawls to the surface
>it kills 30 before it finally dies in a stone fall trap

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>>165719186
Also have the military kill anyone who isn't a storyteller.

>>165719186
Wouldn't do anything, items you trade away disappear into the ether as soon as they leave your embark. No one will see them or use them or even know they ever existed. Economy arc can't come soon enough.

>>165664945
>By the way am i the only guy here who is OBSESSED! with the new specify image thing toady added?
Not at all. I commissioned two gold statues of my civ's leaders striking down the goblin civ's leaders.

>>165719540
>thick lips goblin merchant

>nigger_merchant_oy_wuzzup.jpg

>>165667262
>>165708016
>>165708453
It's not that they don't eat. They do. Or at least, they're supposed to. Quite ravenously, in fact. But they don't need to eat to live.

>>165721878
Doesn't that make them homonculi?

>>165722075
Perhaps. We don't know if the demons made them or if they're just a kind of demon-world vermin.

>>165722281
You can make them without demons, just don't add a hell layer.

>>165721878
>They do. Or at least, they're supposed to.
According to what? The only thing that I'm aware of that causes creatures to eat is hunger.

>>165722075
>Doesn't that make them homonculi?
Why would that make them homunculi? A homunculus is just a miniature human, needing to eat doesn't enter into it.

>>165709045
>Elves also possess immortality but no souls

I'm curious, is this confirmed in the lore?

>>165722607
>According to what?
I believe Toady said as much a couple years back when someone asked about the decision in FotF.

Gobs have [BONECARN] as I recall.
>>165722757
Just experimentation, I've dismantled many elves, never found a soul yet.

>>165722757
I'm fairly sure it's explicitly denied. There are body attributes and soul attributes, and elves have both, same as humans, goblins, dwarves etc.

>>165723217
I've been all up inside elf brains, the soul is just a game tag, it's why they are the only crapsack race that comes with gods you can't even pray to for a bit of extra focus.

>>165723603
Oh really? Have you been all up inside of dwarf, human or goblin brains too? What do they have that elves don't have which you consider to be a soul?

>>165722779
If you have a source handy for that I would like to see it. I know it isn't reasonable to expect anon to have annotated archives of everything Toady has ever said, so I won't hold it against you if you don't produce. I also won't take your word for it, though. There's nothing in the raws that would cause a goblin to ever touch a scrap of food, much less to eat ravenously, and no one to my knowledge has ever experienced them doing so in game. There's no way Toady doesn't know that, and I find it hard to believe that he thinks they behave differently in that regard.

>>165723734
Dwarves don't have souls, they have beards, which are better.

>>165723763
I don't have a source, and it's definitely possible that the years have warped my recollection slightly. It's entirely probable that it was a discussion of thematic intent rather than mechanical reality, which happens often enough.

>>165724029
I recall him saying he had a problem because they kept butchering trolls and beak dogs.

So if I trap some goblins in a room for a few months, they won't die?

>>165725103
Only tamed grazers will die from that.
Read the wiki.

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If any drawfag feels like it, I would appreciate a drawing based on pic related. Obviously there's a lot more information there than will be relevant to even an absurdly overambitious drawing, but I thought I'd include it anyway.

I'm most interested in the one dwarf bouncing off of the other one, especially considering their descriptions.

>>165709045
>Elves also possess immortality but no souls
You might be thinking of Tolkien's elves, though that could be considered a bit of a simplification.

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>Evil Demon: What great and mighty god shall I tempt into a pact to secure my freedom from Hell?
>Eggut Glacierdent: *Peacefully farms mobs*
>Evil Demon: Yess, this one will do. Agriculture is clearly the most fearsome force with which to guard my true name!

>>165726010
Nope, Discworld ones for sure, they're better, maybe the Laundryverse ones, though the two are very similar.

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>>165726456
This was among the image search results for "agricultural champion".

>>165674005
Inland Australia better be 100% savage biome.

>>165730726
"oh, what cute little mushroom things, I'll order some for anon's mom, I get the feeling she'll love them almost as much as his dad does!"

>>165730726
a set of plump helmet injectors, to be used only in emergencies

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>be dorf swordsman
>life in mountainhomes is piss boring
>heard about new dorf site opening up
>everyone says it's the shit
>migrate there
>immediately sent to militia
>nice
>actual work starts
>training 12 hours a day, another 8 of patrol
>manager lets me off once a few months so I can't complain about it
>still have to work while off
>job is cleaning vomit
>often sent off to the depths to fight unseen horrors
>not even the worst job
>kids often go missing under bridges
>bookkeeper is a literal slave
>commander has a side job as giant cave spider target
>some guy infected with vampireness locked in a room with levers
>fort grows at remarkable speed due to slave work
>king decides to move it with all his people and things
>massive work hush, everyone sent to carve rooms for him
>king in discontent
>wants nickel bed
>huge argument with manager
>a week later king goes missing
>found later in chamber, drowned, accidentally pulled a flood lever
>other forts go suspicious and want nothing to do with the Fastboats anymore
>tfw you can't go anywhere
>tfw you're 50 and there's at least 100 years more of this
>tfw you can't even torture elves because a fat shit is against it

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>>165732249
>that nose

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>>165709045
>Elves also possess immortality but no souls, making them worse than goblins.

>>165732249
Nice pasta.

>>165733038
Save it, it's all yours my friend.

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what do you eo if dwarf say he cannot help with cutting wood and miner

can miner cut wood with an pickaze

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Ayy

>>165735475
'Are you sure you're not sourself?'
"Definitely, I've never even heard of me."

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>>165735935
>SOURSELF
FUCKING FINGERS

So how much until we can play spy in dorf fort?

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>>165737046
Not sure whether the secret agents will be a player thing, but it would make sense on certain artifact quests. Fuck, I'm hyped.

I place my bets on a february release for the artifacts. The Myths will probably be delayed to the summer of 2018.

Btw, what happened to the Calendar? Is the Calendar-anon still here? I never posted any Felsite entry. Is there any deadline for this?

>>165735475
for the past months, all the bay12 updates have been about agents, but i'm not really sure what they are.

i kind of assumed at first that they were only adventurer mode stuff, and i don't play adventurer so i didn't look into it but now it seems he's workign 100% on that.

can someone explain me quickly what the hell are the agents?

will they have any role in fortress mode?

>>165737815
Toady has mentioned two different "professions" which require forged identities:

>Those used by thieves to infiltrate sites, in order to acquire information about artifacts, or simply to steal the artifacts.

>Agents used as proxies by gobbo civs in order to employ foreign artifact hunters to their aid.

The former category will affect fort mode, since we'll now have seemingly ordinary visitors who actually have their eyes set on our artifacts. The latter will mostly be for edgy adventurers who want to do quests for the gobbos.

>>165738008
Thanks man, that sounds nice.
Kind of wished he'd rush myths and magic instead, but the ways of Toady are inscrutable.

>>165738368
Who is the spectre?

>>165738460
A ghost, perhaps?

>>165738368
that necromancer is pretty hot

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>>165738460
Tis a ghost!

>>165738698
Thanks.

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>>165739003
Elf stands no chance against the dwarf romantic.

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Apparently dragonfire+dolomite block bridge=boiling magma, even when the bridge is retracted.

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RIP fortress. You were too good for this world. perfect caverns, gold, silver, tetrahedrite, emeralds, rubies, AND star rubies.

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>>165740598

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>>165740598
The poison vapour causes instant death, and it 'breaths' it. It also seems to have pretty damn good regenerative/recuperative abilities.

BUT IT DIDN'T POISON THIS BABY. FUCK ME WHAT THE FUCK.
>the baby talks.
toady I didn't want to feel these feelings.

>>165741375
wtf is wrong with your text

>>165741705
2Drendermode4lyfe

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Which one are you?

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>>165742585
me in the circle

SO guys. How much do you use dfhack to automate? Im using it for basics right now. But can some one please post a pic of their WELL going fort and all the shit they have automatically going?

>>165744481
>How much do you use dfhack to automate?
Nothing.

Now that we have the improve manager options, there's no need for it, either.

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>>165744730
well ok. Yea thats what i meant. i want a screenshot of everything you guys do with it.

This is how basic mine is. I made rooms, and i set up my work shop area. And now i have them making basic stuff for the fort as we grow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oumIL1LMI90

Trying to get back into the game after 5 years. How much shit am I in?
Also it seems that therapist and starter packs are outdated, will this fuck up the new version? And some tilesets and graphic packs are also outdated (cant remember which one I was using) >inb4 graphics in muh ascii game. Thanks in advance.

>>165745653
YOu dont need Therapist anymore Dfhack has a new one in game. Its far easier than constantly alt tabbing. Also fuck the starter park. Just get yourself a tilset you want yourself its just a txt edit to enable it.
Anyone else unable to get wheel barrows to work? It seems only ROCK haulers use them. But my dwarves who i order to make rock stuff just slowly drag it instead of wheel barrowing it.

>>165745653
just get an updated graphic pack and get new version of DF, dont use LZP

>>165745965
Q over stockpile and increase wheelbarrow count
your rock haulers only use them because stone stockpile defaults to wheelbarrow

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>he is badly distracted after being away from family for too long
>check his relationships
>doesn't have any family

Why

>>165745965
>It seems only ROCK haulers use them. But my dwarves who i order to make rock stuff just slowly drag it instead of wheel barrowing it.
That's sadly just how the game works. We can hope that Toady changes itin the future, but in the current game, wheelbarrows are onlyused to haul rocks into stockpiles.

>>165745965
>>165745973
thanks mates.
b-but, what about this?
>DFHack (Out of date. Alpha version available, expect issues if you use it.)

>>165746208
Needs are determined by personalities. Your dwarf has a personality that makes him want to hang out with family, regardless of whether he actually has one.

It's not that weird, though. There are many fantasy stories in which orphaned characters wish they could see their parents again, and so on.

>>165746216
damnit. that sucks. well thanks.

>>165746150
yea, The anon above answered it. Only works to haul stone to stock pile cant use it for workshops.

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>>165746335
Yeah I guess, it's just the wording of it which suggests an existing family.
I'll keep him boozed up.

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Is there a way to remove names from the dead list in your fort?
I dont really want to see it cluttered by the names of 400 goblins that had died on my embark.

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>>165739003
>>165739595

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Nothing like creating temples with these new detail options! This is fucking awesome! No more plump helmet engraving in my temples!

>>165747646
Explain?

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What year do you start playing at?

>>165748274
125-150 usually.
Civs have time to develop but gobbos wont overrun entire world and enough megabeasts are alive.

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>>165748103
you can make dwarves Specifically engrave something. Or specifically make an image. yourself now. With Figurines and. Also with DFHACK you can Specify what to encrust. No more encrusting stupid toy boat instead of your statue. using ALT +A in a workshop brings up what specific items it should use in a little gui. I find it useful because i can now finally use that yak skin for something. YAK skin shields!

>>165748274
50. because i hate waiting for the slow load time.

>>165747179
https://dfhack.readthedocs.io/en/stable/docs/_auto/fix.html#fix-dead-units

>>165740523
Dragonfire is pretty potent stuff. I don't remember the temperature values, but it's hot enough to vaporise most or all mundane materials.
A bridge made of adamantine would probably withstand it.

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>>165747646
>>165748612
>using the example dwarf graphics
>not even square

>>165746208
He's >tfwngf

>>165748968
not my fault. I like the way it is easy on my ways. So the dwarves have to be graphics. I would have prefer they just be smiling faces. But whatever

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>>165749142

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Let's settle it once and for all.
Who's the best to play in adventure mode? Vampire, Werebeast or Necromancer?

>>165748884
Dragonfire's temperature is the same as adamantine's boiling point: 50,000. Though apparently the dragonfire itself will burn away pretty quickly, before anything gets to that temperature. The wiki does say that repeated blasts of dragonfire can melt adamantine (25,000) though.

>>165749567
Vampire Necromancer, duh

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>>165749567
Human.

Semper humanis motherfucker.

>>165749567
All of them make the adventurer impossible to peacefully assimilate into a fort mode fort's population.

For the gameplay, I prefer vamp, since they can breathe underwater. The only thing that that necros have that others lack is the animate corpse interaction, and that one just fucks your fps up if you try to use it to kill off cities.

>>165749758
>lost both arms
>become weak bitch
Werebeast or bust.

>>165749829
>Can still reanimate corpses
>Still have jacked up strength and agility
>Kicks are a thing, bites are too
No thanks

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Fuck, I just noticed that the banner on the homepage has an imperfection on it.

Notice the brighter line on the top left?

I bet Toady will never fix it.

>>165748274
somewhere in the 1200s

Next world i make. Im doing this

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=98866.0
[REACTION:ENCRUST_WEAPON]

[NAME:encrust a weapon with gems]

[BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:CUSTOM_SHIFT_C]

[REAGENT:gem:1:SMALLGEM:NONE:NONE:NONE]

[REAGENT:weapon:1:WEAPON:NONE:NONE:NONE]

[PRESERVE_REAGENT]

[IMPROVEMENT:100:weapon:COVERED:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:gem:NONE]

[SKILL:ENCRUSTGEM]

[PERMITTED_REACTION:ENCRUST_WEAPON]

That way my dwarves can use their gems to encrust their helms with their deity or their sword with with civilization

>>165748274
Younger than that hag

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How do I build over the brook?

>>165753472
Literally just build on it, like you would on any terrain.

>>165753472
Build floors across it, then build walls next to the floors.

Actually, if it's really a brook and not a river, shouldn't it already be walkable? Just construct some walls on it, it should work fine.

>>165753612
I can't, thats why I'm asking.

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>>165753472
walls

>>165753658
Guess you're doomed then. It's really unfortunate that the game gives you literally no information or details about why you might not be able to build there.

>>165753642
>>165753692
I can walk on it, I cant make constructions.

>>165753761
Then either you're making a mistake or the game is broken somehow (unlikely).

>>165753858
What kind of mistake can I make when placking a wall

>>165753896
Maybe there are logs in the way which can't be moved because they are targeted for another construction job?

What does the message say?

>>165754082
There are no logs and I dont get any message.
If I make a wall across the whole embark map theres still a hole when the brook crosses.

>>165754230
So you are placing orders for a construction on top of both the brook and ground to the side of it?

What happens then? Do the constructions disappear? Or can you not place them in the first instance?

>>165754605
They start building walls on tiles that arent brook.

>>165753472
Floor it up and then build walls on the floor tiles.

>>165755152
You can neither build floor on brook nor walls on floor.

>>165755152
>it's possible to build walls on top of floor tiles

>>165755187
You should be able to build on brooks. The other anon is mistaken in saying you can build on constructed floors.

So you place a construction on the brook, and the game allows you to do so, leaving an outline where the wall will be, yes?

>>165755725
>So you place a construction on the brook, and the game allows you to do so, leaving an outline where the wall will be, yes?
No.

>>165755187
>>165755227
>tfw stopped playing DF after Toady stopped updating that the mechanics are slipping from my mind

Alright I seem to have fixed it by channeling out the brook tiles and then placing walls.

>>165754639
If you designate a construction to be built and the dwarves can't build it they don't just choose somewhere else to build it. In the picture you posted there are no walls designated to built on the brook tiles. Start by doing that. If you get a cancellation, show us what it is.

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>>165755939
I can't designate a construction on brook tiles that's why they aren't showing.

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>>165755803
Works on my machine (TM)

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>>165755803
Does the game allow you to place a wall there at all?
Does it appear like either part of pic related?

>>165756159
>Does the game allow you to place a wall there at all?
n o

>>165756230
What does is say in the right pane when you try? Screenshot.

>>165756368
It doesnt say anything.
It's like you're trying to build a wall on a floor tile, it just doesnt work.

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>>165756441
>It's like you're trying to build a wall on a floor tile, it just doesnt work.

>>165756441
Ok I'm done. You guys can talk to him.

>>165756441
If you try to build a wall on a constructed floor it says "construction present" in the right pane. Type b C w, choose a material, hover the cursor over a brook tile, and take a screenshot. You're doing something wrong, and we can tell you what.

>>165756054
OK hold the fuck up. You say you can't designate a construction but there's clearly SOMETHING on the brook tiles where the wall should go. >>165753472 Those blue pillar things on black background on top of the brook, what are they?

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>>165756753
>>165756697
>>165756627


>>165756863
Those are just markers.

>>165756909
you can't just build a floating wall

>>165756863
Looks like marker designations for channels. They shouldn't prevent placing constructions.

>>165756909
Oh jesus. Should've seen the TWBT in your screenshot and realized you'd be using some kind of fucked-up DFhack UI. You're on your own.

>>165757001
That's a brook. The surface of a brook is solid ground.

>>165757001
It's not floating. Brook tiles support constructions. All of those tiles are completely valid construction locations.

>>165756909
Disable whatever dfhack bullshit you have going on there, it's overwriting the vanilla display and is probably what was giving you problems in the first place.

>>165757003
As I recall, buildings placed on top of designations which are set to never complete will never be built; the "don't actually do this" designation option applies to the whole tile, not just the designation. Which is why as soon as he allowed the channel to go through, he could place constructions.

>toadyfag still doesnt let dorfs build diagonally

>>165758319
He actually does, but the constructions need a floor tile in a cardinal direction. They don't have to stand on that floor tile when building, it just needs to be there.

I agree that it's weird. It's probably the biggest reason that many players avoid above ground construction projects.

How do you get rid of trash without using exploits? I;ve only figured out magma and sending mussel shells away in caravans.

>>165759118
>dig hole
>put hatch
>pile garbage on hatch
>pull lever

>>165759118
>sending mussel shells away in caravans

Are you a Trobriand islander, by any chance?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kula_ring

>>165759885
Sounds like unnecessary work.

Personally, I just make a two z-level deep hope and make a dump zone next to it, in order to just throw the stuff directly unto the hole. Two z-öevels are enough to hide the contents from anyone standing on the ground above.

>>165760158
The problem with that method is some retard brings his pet along for the dump job, kicks his pet into the hole, and then the pet gets stoned to death by peach pits.
It happens every single time someone with a pet tries to do a dump job.

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>Make a neat-o fort layout
>its all in chert
FUCK

>>165762209
>kicks his pet into the hole
what

>>165762989
If massive bedrocks made out of pure chert were possible IRL, it would probably be really painful to dig through them, with all those sharp shards raining all over you as you work.

It would probably look kinda neat once cleaned out and smoothed, though.

>>165762209
>some retard brings his pet along for the dump job, kicks his pet into the hole, and then the pet gets stoned to death by peach pits
has literally never happened to me.

Are you sure that you didn't have one bad coincidence?

>>165738330
Tarn Adams does not "rush". What's more, this is in fact a totally scrutable part of development, it's on the dev page for the current (artifact) release under "artifact quests and agents".

>>165763562
It wasn't one bad coincidence. It was a duckling, a kitten and a piglet before I banned pets and confined them all to a pasture.

>>165738008
The second will also affect fort mode, there's no reason to think you won't have goblin spies trying to get into your fort so they can hire npc adventurer groups to come raid you.

So how much do we know about NPC adventuring parties?