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Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/.
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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Found: >>165316261
is the Dragoncraft prebuilt deck any good for a ramp deck?
>>165336334
No.
>>165335831
pls help
>>165336207
>pic rel
>>165336334
The dragon prebuiilt is pretty bad in general.
>>165335714
>>165336339
hoo
lee
shiet bros
i'm in the same situation, I built sun satan and its fucking sucks
Even elana haven is much more consistent
>>165336442
>>165336403
what prebuilts are even worth it then?
>>165336435
well fuck, didn't attach it
Help me fill the last three slots, shadowbros
>>165336520
Forest for Ancient Elf.
Shadow for Cerbs.
Everything else is just if you want the alt art. Those two are the only "good" buys. Forest being like 10x better than Shadow too.
>>165336520
Forest and Blood. Sword is technically good, but you'll still miss Albert and Tsubaki plus Sword is not even close to T1.
Begone roach scum.
>>165336448
Works nice for me at this hour of the day is when the americans play.
And they are metacucks at finest.
>>165336334
It is if you need Forte and Genesis Dragon. Don't remember if it has Wyvern Cavalier, who you'll also want.
>>165336520
Forest, Shadow and Blood are the good ones imo. All have legos that are either meta or at least usable if not meta.
Sword is okay. Would have been great in DE but now it's just okay.
Dragon, Rune and Haven are must dodges. Seriously, Mythril Golem, Fafnir and Jeanne D Arc, fuck that noise.
>>165336520
>asking /svg/ for advice
Oh boy, you'll learn one day.
>>165336647
post deck or give me the code
may be i'm missing something
>>165336725
Read this post >>165336251
I explain everything
>>165336448
In theory ward should counter the meta, but in my experience from the last 10 games it doesnt work since there is so much removal in the game. I even tried tech Mainyu & Shine Maiden so they cant use spell removal but its too slow against most decks and also too slow against other control decks.
>>165336676
where else do i ask
Why does Urias need an army of sluts when he's supposed to be all powerful?
>>165336237
Question is Eidolon of Madness used in anything?
>>165336549
Dark Conjurer
Demonic StrikeKeen EnchantmentGourmet Emperor Khaiza
I'm getting rid of my Golds. Are any of these worth saving?
>Forest
Maahes
Elf of the Gemstones
Robin Hood
>Sword
Castle in the Sky
>Rune
Anne
>Dragon
Shapeshifting Mage
Phoenix Roost
Grea
>Shadow
Shadow Reaper
Spirit Cycle
Balor
Midnight Haunt
Deathly Tyrant
>Blood
Sadistic Night
Righteous Devil
Erinyes
Mastema
>Haven
Valhallan General
Luxhorn Sarissa
Incandescent Dragon
>Neutal
Goblinbreaker Teena
Uriel
>>165336851
Are you gay?
fuck this meta I'm getting back to a1 and not playing ranked until dimension shift is good again
>>165336827
Not here.
>>165336520
Forest for ancient elf
Shadow for Cerb
Dragon for Forte
The rest is w/e
>>165336891
Tyrant, Mastema and Uriel are worth keeping.
>play /tier3/ deck
>slow, steady and fun climb
>try a daria deck to see what all the hype is about
>win or lose overwhelmingly based on what feels like a dice roll
>drop nearly 1000 points trying to make it work
I don't think I'm cut out for the tier 1 life.
>vampy-chan brings herself to lethal with a demonic storm
>>165336957
>play Aggro Blood
>smash my way up into A before hitting the wall
>even still, win 6 lose 4 steadily so still climbing but grind is slower
Mehh.
Not going to switch until losing 6 and winning 4.
>>165336898
Are you me?
>A2
>Love DShift but does bad agaist A2 aggro hell
Stop impersonating me
>>165336948
Thanks
the only streamer worth watching is online
get in here you weeb fucks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEH_kz69_Dc
>>165336891
Don't dust
Robin hood
Deatlhy Tyrant
Master
Erinyes
Righteous Devil
Sadistic Night
Valhallan General
Sarisa
Tenna
Uriel
Post a print of everything you really have good golds.
>>165336891
Sadistic Night, Erinyes, Balor, Shadow Reaper, Valhalla General, Grea, Uriel, and Teena are all good or decent right now.
>>165336851
why do lions force lionesses hunt for them?
>>165337149
The best streamer.
But only because i understand 70% of what he talks.I hate whinners in streams
>>165336957
Welcome to face decks, you smash your head agaist a wall until you get to master
>>165337162
isn't robin hood a poor card?
>>165337149
Is he going to Atomeme on people today?
>>165337286
Robin Hood still sucks and so does Deathly Tyrant.
>>165337286
It's a meme killer of Aggro, literally a superior Yurius but it's not time yet for Control Foredt
>>165337286
He is good for memes
>>165337149
it's time for ODIN-CHAN
>magic missile
>magic missile
>magic missile
>angelic snipe
>dorothy
>witchette
>witchette
>all on turn 7
why is this allowed?
What killed Elana from Haven decks?
That card's strong as fuck
>>165337339
Except Yurius hurts the opponent directly for playing things and Robin Hood does nothing until you attack, costs way more, and has no evasion properties.
He's always going to be a meme.
>>165337149
Why the first game is sword against dragon if the ladder is 90% of daria and aggro bat?
>>165336851
Because he's a man with good taste.
>>165337458
Nothing. I still see people use it.
>>165337458
Better question, there are Haven decks not running Beastcall Aria. Someone explain THAT
my god, lantham animations are so ridiculous
>tfw started playing too late to get Ding Dong sleeves
>>165337645
>tfw played at the right time but didn't realize sleeves were a thing
At least I got the emblem
>>165337645
Is there a site which records what previous monthly score rewards were? I want to torment myself with what I've missed out on
>>165337534
he always plays first game against viewers
does anybody know where on the site they state the card drop rates?
>summon ice golem because I'm at 2 and he hasn't played any wolf faggots yet
>dance of death
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>165336957
Such is Aggro here i lost because he topdecked mini soul and he healed to 6 going off of the range Imp
Amazing and skillful outplaying :^)))))
I fucking hate Aggro decks, i fucking hate blood and i fucking hate mirror blood the most
>>165337581
Too slow
>>165337713
Din Dong
Urd
Snowman
Otohimeme guard
Elana
Liza
Kamura
Lilly
That's all that's been so farI think
>>165337149
>play control sword
>lose like a little bitch
Glad I didn't fell for this meme.
>>165337769
Buy cards->whatever pack you want to see->Details->opens in browser.
>>165337797
i don't remember that streamer ever winning
>>165337645
>tfw got rin gon but missed on Urd
>literally the only Sleeve I like out of all the sleeves so far except for maybe Liza
At least we are finally getting Charon in the next month or two.
>>165337847
he is master
>>165337789
So I missed out on 3 good ones. I wonder how long it'll take them to recycle them. Probably years.
>>165337840
i see, ty
what shadowverse streamers dowelike?
>>165337847
He wins enough even withDragon
need 2 more
I've gotten by just fine with pompous princess in there, but I feel like it barely ever does anything
I've tried replacing it with princess vanguard but that also barely gets any value unless you start with it and a 1 drop
should I just throw in another fencer and white general? or 2 more demonic strikes?
min-maxing these 2 spots is driving me insane, pls help
>>165337896
krippO
>>165336823
>>165336251
>>165336779
sun anything is trash
just lost 3 unranked in a row to daria,aggro shadow and aggro blood
Elana is much much better.
oh, angel of the word in aggro bats
it seems japs netdeck just like we do:3
>>165337896
I'm fine with anyone advertising the game. Might not watch them, but I appreciate it.
What kind of dragon deck should I aim for with this stuff?
>>165337956
Why do you always do that? Is it like a signature or something?
>play aggro blood
>don't go first
>don't get a perfect curve
>lose
>>165338041
aliquifiedone
>>165338059
>play Blood
>get 2 Yurias
>win just from the opponent playing his stuff
>don't
>lose
>>165338059
>playing Blood
Blood is trash
>>165338057
sorry, it's was a common way to use smileys in some of the generals that i visited, so it's just a habit
supposedly it annoys emoticon-hating people less
>>165336898
but dshift is still good...Tempo Rune is just better.
>>165338136
>play blood
>get 2 yurius
>but you went 2nd and the opponent has all his removal in his hand
I thought you said this was an auto win matchup
83254
pls concede
how many good matchups does control sword even have? at least control blood is carrying around half a deck of healing so they can survive dirty man fireballs
>>165338326
You obviously bricked. Get better draws next time.
>>165338191
How is cblood?
>>165338395
Bats and that's it
I am actually pulling the plug every match now, hopefully i get banned from this shit of game
Post a deck that will drag my ass to Masters
>>165338326
>not running petify
Your fault.
>the american time is the worst
Don't know how you guys live crying like this everyday.
>>165338519
TempoRune
Not having Daria and don't want to craft shit?
Wait next expansion
>>165338521
>petify
aww
Which ones here can I actually liquefy? I prefer the ones that actually haven't seen play at all since SV's inception.
Checked are those I won't liquefy.
>>165338519
Daria, Bats, Seraph, OTK Elf
>>165338550
Daria started bricking, 9 matches without a W with her
>>165338521
I petrified his turn 8 seraph. that was his turn 11 seraph.
>>165336609
Rarely see PTP Rune in ranked. What's your decklist?
>>165338606
Only Daria can drag ass to masters
Seraph gets overaggroed
Bats are shit
OTK Roaches are a gimmick
>>165338626
Keep playing that deck
It works and will net you master
>>165338041
Breath, Wyvern, Forte, Fafnir, Genesis, Neptune, and Bahamut can start you towards a ramp dragon deck but you'll need more of all of them.
how much?
>>165338597
I would liquify Beast Dominator, Pluto, Dragoon and Erasmus.
FUCK OFF URIEL I HAVE SIX OF YOU NOW AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>165338641
>not petrifying 3 seraphs as soon as they come in
>>165338654
>bats are shit
What happened, weren't you fags bitching about this T1 deck just a week ago? Is it because some site told you to hate it now so you do?
>>165338743
Reasons?
>>165338597
>>165338597
Erasmus, Pluto, Beast Dominator will never be used. Liquefy one Alexander because you'll never use 3.
>>165338597
Beast Dom, Zirnitra, Erasmus and Pluto. Don't Liquefy Dragoon. I'm pretty sure they gonna release more discard dragon supports next expansion.
>>165338769
Beast Dominator and Pluto suck hard, Erasmus doesnt work well and discard dragon is terrible.
All according to keikaku
>>165338758
Bats are a tier 1 deck but they are being teched against even harder than daria so they are unreliable
Which of these should I liquefy?
>Dragonsong Flute
>Fairy Princess
>Sahaquiel
>Bloodhungry Matriarch
>Rose Queen
>Mythril Golem
>>165338913
How exactly do you tech against Yurias and burn damage? Don't play followers?
How do you tech against Daria? Get Themis with each class?
>>165338965
Mythril Dogshit
Also Dragonsong Flute.
It's such a meme.
>But it's good seriously
Until you draw shit you need and they get turned into dragons.
>>165338965
golem
>>165339009
>how do you tech against Yurius
Running a control deck.
>against Daria
Just ward bro.
>>165339020
>>165339073
Is Golem really that bad? Will no Rune deck ever run it in the foreseeable future?
Which do I liquefy?
>>165339009
You should learn it yourself.
The last time that i spoonfeed someone here the guy just throw the games and say how shit the deck was look >>165337953
>>165339139
Sun Satan is actually a very good answer to both.
>>165339139
your deck losses to aggro and tempo
therefore it's shit in this meta
>>165339009
Entire decks are being run that exist solely to shitstomp aggro blood and Daria. The most notable is control blood which gives up almost every other match up in the game because they don't matter when 2/3 of the playerbase is playing their two good matchups
They are tierwhore hunters
>>165339196
Daily reminder that Sun Satan is the anti-meta deck, shits out wards against OTK roach, crushes daria and aggro blood, and is a strong control deck.
Reminder to bully havenfags
>>165339131
A nine mana board wipe on a body is OKAY, but in order for him to be boosted properly, he's got to be in your hand for a while, or comboboosted to hell, but comboboost has other more viable win cons.
It's just really awkward, especially by TURN NINE. Most games don't last that long.
>don't give a shit about heal spamming faggots anymore because based roach can take them out from 20 hp
man cygames doesn't get enough credit
Which deck is the most reliable?
>>165339225
>deck losses to aggro and tempo
Nah is good against both.
The only bad thing is the pilot.
You should just play aggro since is easy to use and all.
>>165339229
This, but they hunts Bats more than Daria sadly
The deck right now should be demoted to tier2
>>165339256
>>165339264
I've literally never seen him played, but I don't want to liquefy anything that has a chance of being useful in the future.
>>165339131
There's no reason to ever use it. If you're using a bunch of spells already you're probably using it for removal already and DS. If you draw it late in any other deck it's total shit and bricks your hand if you get it early. At least it looks cool coming in though.
>>165338041
DisCuck Dragon.
>>165338819
>>165338838
>>165338872
>>165338887
Goddamn you guys really hate Erasmus huh. Is he too slow for Forest?
Last. The Gold Cards.
I'm kinda asking this stuff because I'm quite near to OTK Roach and Seraph Haven so I really want to liquefy unnecessary cards for now.
>>165339229
I'm running into more Haven, Shadow and Roach than Daria and Blood in early AA0 desu.
Roach will be even more popular soon too and control blood doesn't have any wards outside of Queen.
>>165339280
relying on amulet instead of just running fucking wards is stupid
How many more expansions until this game also starts rotating
>>165339258
Na dirtrune PtP is better than sun satan.
>>165339262
im playing dshift so thats a given
>>165339275
In a vacuum, Aggro Blood.
With high IQ, Control Blood.
In the current setting, Daria.
>play seraph
>run into dirt shit three times straight
Fucking cygames, literally rigged matches.
>>165339269
all they need to do is tech in that warding amulet to cuck roaches forever.
>never ever lose dragon mirrors
>lose to discard dragon
T0 confirmed
>>165339358
>Roach will be even more popular soon too and control blood doesn't have any wards outside of Queen.
they also run veight and yulius i believe
>>165337149
THEMISU
NICE THEMISU
>>165338758
For me the worst part of Aggro Blood are the very common mirrors.
Really, Aggro Blood mirrors are the most stressful and rage inducing matches to play.
I would love to see Bats get trashed to tier 3, the deck is fun but it's too much popular for his own good
>>165339394
Way, way too slow desu unless you're running snowmen and altered fate. You're better off running Satan instead.
>>165339471
You need to be running the Medusa Gaze version bruh.
Gobu is trash.
I always win my Aggro Blood mirrors.
>>165339471
Put in Angelic Barrage and win all your mirrors.
>>165339401
>Daria
>reliable
Literally RNG how do you call that reliable
https://my.mixtape.moe/xipsza.webm
>tfw your last altered fate is at the bottom of your deck
It's going to take some time to unclench my ass.
>Sadistic Night is just Beast Dominator with a good panic spell attached
>So Beast Dominator is just pointless
Hmm.
>>165339359
The deck have tons of removals and some heals to deal with aggro.
I even won matches without Sun.
>>165339132
pic
>>165339526
>i always win my mirrors
I can't believe you
>>165339543
>draw no darias
>still win
Seems reliable to me.
>>165339543
Just because there's some randomness to it doesn't make it "lol RNG coinflip deck". There's only 40 fucking cards in the deck, and most of the deck is streamlined into getting the combo online, so by the time she's going to trigger and start boosting your hand, it's going to be the stuff that you want. It's retardedly reliable for "RNG", which is why so many people are disgusted.
>>165339543
Every deck is literally RNG.
>>165339543
>RNG that's a hand shuffle regardless
Whoa, I may win at turn 8 instead of 6.I'm making a Daria deck myself though.
Should I let my wife's son play this game?
>>165339570
show rank and match history and i'll believe you
>>165339563
A bunch of classes got exactly the same thing.
Except erasmus they decided his spell should make him cost 1 more mana than just playing him normally and not even give him the spells effect
>>165339353
the dislexy painter
Is dragoncraft really that shit?
>>165339258
Got a list you'd recommend?
>>165339657
>Hearthstone
>not a scam
Hahahaha what a cuck.
>>165339595
>go 1st
>lose
>don't get Levi/piercing
>lose
>draw more than 1 Daria at a time
>lose
>don't draw Daria
>lose
>opponent wards
>lose
>get spell boosted followers without spells
>lose
>get spells without followers
>lose
Just looking at the massive 10%+ swing between going 1st and 2nd should tell you how much this deck relies on good draws, aka rng.
>>165339686
They have one good deck that costs 30k. They aren't shit but they aren't worth the investment unless you really want to hold hands with forte
>>165339495
Its not really slow since levi can clear the mob from turn 4 and you dont have to run odin at all since you have petify for seraph and calamity curse for nepnep. Also running at least 2 alter fate is good since you need to push shadow from 20 to 30 around turn 8 or 9. But if sun satan work for you then go ahead, but it has too much high cost cards and bricks since you need to rely on satan as a wincon.
>>165339659
I'm A2bb.
But this deck was recomended by a master player in this thread the guy was 750.
>>165339686
Is in a bad position but can have a good deck if you have 60k of vials.
>>165339686
With Bahamut and lol discard, it can definitely survive.
It's not completely fucked in the anus like Control Sword without 3 Alberts.
>>165339665
Even at 9 cost 10 random damage across the board with a body would be kinda ridiculous though.
>>165339740
Wow anon, with all those scenarios you listed for losing, the deck must be at like a 20% winrate.
Let's look at the winrate.
Oh wait.
It's not 20%?
It's not even 30%?
Wait, it's actually over 50%?
Shit, you must have some crazy bad RNG.
Everyone else must have "good" RNG.
>>165339665
>and not even give him the spells effect
If the spell version gave the spell effect AND summoned erasmus I wouldn't even mind if it cost 10pp since thats practically a full board clear in most cases. But since it only does 1 or the other its pretty lame.
>>165339732
This JP streamer is playing Sun Satan right now.
>>165337149
here is a video where he shows his list
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCpUw5f-LrY
>>165339754
I WANT TO HOLD HANDS WITH FORTE
>>165339740
>>165339543
You should stop playing card games...they are about you know cards
here a game for people like you http://na.leagueoflegends.com/
>>165339740
Muh statistics
How many times do you need to be told that all data sites are lying to you due to lack of data
>>165339657
>my wife's son
>plays mtg yet doesn't know SV was made by former magic players
>my favorite e-person said so it's gotta be legit
How can you be more of a cuck than that?
Does storm haven even exist these days? The current speed just puts it to shame.
>>165339867
Not even former players, one of the devs won a tourney last month.
>>165339657
>seen commerial of it
What? I never ever seen a commercial of shadowverse.
Does aggro shadow really have any bad matchups? They seem to be so average that they don't have any big flaws to abuse which is how they have over 50% win rate going first and second
>>165339859
>everyone is lying but not me
Just try winning a game where you go 1st and Levi doesn't show up for your first evolves.
>>165339878
You need more tools to survive the early and themis to stomp darias.
But everyone is going to control meta or aggro meta now days.
>>165339657
This is just a well crafted troll, the weeb name gives it away.
>>165339906
I bet he saw it on hulu or netflix.
>>165339906
you don't live in Japan I assume
>>165339917
Never mind
>Hundreds
But going by vaguely defined popularity is just the opposite fallacy man.
>>165339930
I do all the time, because I draw Clarke.
Levi is a bonus, not a necessity.
>>165339912
Haven, in general. But you can still beat them.
>>165339917
>>165339930
You guys should stop playing card games desu.
>>165339987
Obviously i dont but if the guy who posted that does live in japan that would make no sense at all.
I'm playing Aggro Bat and mastema only bricks, who should I add instead? I'm thinking about making 2 Queen Vampire
>>165336957
It was the same for me with forest in darkness evolved, it was so bad i even changed forest dailies a few weeks before baha.
What's the cheapest/quickest to put together T1 deck for a new player? Willing to do some rerolls but are there any that don't need a ton of specific legendaries?
>>165340164
Mini Goblins, more one drops, demonic strike, or DoD.
Ah, beating someone with a fancy rank and flair always feels good. Shoulda switched to roaches, fellow elf. Ptp is so last year.
LAST 15 PACKS WERE ALL LIKE THIS
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>165340239
Aggro Bat is the only cheap deck, judging by the number of packs you get when you join the game you can get it in hours, it's the only cheap t1 deck, if not you can get banner sword, while it's not t1 it gets easy wins early on
>play aggro blood
>only face other aggro bloods and daria
>switch to Control Blood
>face 5 Havencraft in a row
Epic Joke really epic ftw
>>165340239
Reroll for daria then just craft the remaining. While waiting for your darias, play in the mean time using aggro blood. It's very cheap and doesn't need leggos.
>tfw can't rank up from this shithole.
>>165340147
well he claims to live there
>>165340354
>if not you can get banner sword
elana
>Meet a 20k B3
Should I concede for him?
>>165340312
better start liquefying then
>>165340239
Aggrobat is cheap and effective.
You don't need legendaries just 4 legos and the deck is good.
As a new player aim for a roll with the best legendaries possible.
criticize my elana deck
too scared to do ranked with it
>>165340395
Just tech in 3 Odins silly. And control blood against elana is really fun since it's just two people with full health having a stared own for 13 turns
>>165340470
Seems good but 3 ODIN-CHAN is too much.
And healing prayer is not that good without a lot of countdown amulets
>>165340529
There is no room for 3 Odins.
>>165340420
Nah. B3 is not that difficult. But the most gentlemanly way of doing it is fighting with all you've got then concede if you have lethal.
that's the most adorable curse ever
he went face with the 5/5 instead of trading with the lich. guess he forgot.
Eidolon should work with ward.
>>165340420
>>165340618
>wasting other people's time is gentlemanly
Just concede or beat him and move on man.
What the fuck is his problem?
>>165340420
Concede when you are about to win.
Make someone happy
>tfw you steal the win with literally the last 2 cards in your deck
>>165340843
he still has 1 hp left though
>storm haven is dead
then what the fuck is this?
>>165340958
9+4
>>165340796
he never scored
>>165341005
Is not ded the japs just need to upgrade the netdecks to /svg/ babys copy and start to bitch about.
If you play a heal follower when Yurius is up will you heal or take damage first?
Is the Sterling Archer pre-built deck good?
I think it's good? From a newbie's perspective. I mean the I think everything is used there for Roach right?
>>165341005
stray storm deck preying on one of the few decks it's not too slow to beat
>>165341113
Heal then damage. So if you played healing rabbit at 18 HP you would end up with 19.
>>165341113
The fanfares go before you play the follower.
Same thing if you play bahamut with tribunal in the field.
>>165341138
Forest is without the doubt the best pre-build deck
90% of Blood match is decided by lol lethal topdeck or not
Tell me again whats so good about it?
>>165341236
they often do topdeck lethal.
>>165341093
The japs say it's tier3
The average Garudafag jumped instantly on Daria/Vampy depending if they had or not 3x Daria
HA I was dead but he quit anyway. thanks fucktard.
So if control blood plays Mary when aggro blood has Yurius out they punch themselves in the face?
>>165341005
In my experience against rune with that board I get hit with a 13+ fire chain the next turn.
>>165340796
he got cucked
>>165341315
yes. i've gotten like 3 lethals thanks to the opponent's yuri
>>165341265
So you agree on it depending purely on your luck?
Thanks to prove my point
>>165341236
>90% of Blood match is decided by lol lethal topdeck or not
Well the only deck that don't need to deal damage to win is Seraph.
>>165341291
Forest was tier 3 in the first week
>>165341293
Ahhhh I want to play DShift but I'm missing Merlins. Wanna have fun.
>>165341364
it's a cardgame bro. every deck is luck.
>>165341364
shadowverse is a card game where you draw random cards from your deck
>>165341380
put in spectral wizards and be a little less consistent.
>>165341364
Have you ever played a game with cards?
>>165341364
CARDGAMES
>>165341364
Card games are luck of the draw mate.
Hey guys i don't like card games because there is RNG in the draw part.
Should i try playing it?
>>165341562
Yeah, be sure to come back here and bitch about it too.
>>165341364
Here a good card game for you.
>tfw just got memed on by Hamsa DShift
I'm speechless
>>165341702
fucking rekt
>>165341702
The madman, absolute madman
More crazy madman than Flame Glass DShift
>>165341702
How shook were you.
Shadow work with this guy?
Guess whose waifu is better here.
What's with these fucking earth runes all over the ladder all of a sudden, holy shit this is annoying.
>>165341847
roaches
>>165341702
I got killed by a daria conjuring force meme. Also roach forest with Cynthia.
someone please help me. I've been playing for over 4 hours now and I keep losing. I just want to get back to a1 so I can go to bed but I'm losing 2 games for every one I win. I just need 6 wins but everything is shitting on me.
>>165341364
Wah. Drawing card is also RNG!
Can someone help me win a private match?
ID: 66669
>>165341847
You are lying the meta is only Daria and Aggro batsource:/svg/
>>165341975
>going first
thats what you're doing wrong
>>165341927
Roach with Cynthia isn't that bad since it basically gives you another way to win. The deck has a couple of flex slots anyway which people use for Will of the Forest or Tia usually.
>>165341835
Jesus those puppies.
>>165341698
>randomly positioned cards
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>165341975
>DShift in Aggroverse
Found your problem
>>165341975
D-shift is boring and unfun try to go to unranked.
Aggro will dominate the ladder because is fast as fuck .
>>165341702
You got nothing on me, bro.
What's the point of having 3 Darias? Rune can win without Daria but if you draw Darias consecutively you'll probably lose
I spent 140 games in A2 and now i am dropping to A1 again
I play Aggro Blood and Seraph, there is no hope for me right?
>>165342052
it doesn't matter if I go first or second. I'm losing to everything. bats, ramp dragon, storm haven, some random sword deck, literally everything.
>>165342196
Run 2 Darias
>>165342196
The same reason you use 3 of any card in any deck. Because you want to draw it more.
>>165342196
The deck is about shitting your hand onto the board and rearming for your next explosive bowel movement with daria.
>>165342131
>unranked
I just want a1 back. I got it earlier but then I lost 600 points and now I can't get them back.
>>165342204
You still in the average rate for A2.
don't play tilted anony this make you missplay and throw games.
Look to your collection and refine the decks.
Here a cute girl.
>>165341236
it's very boring, I agree, but it's good for quickly climbing ladder. I've transitioned into dirt rune, it's the first time I've actually had to think while playing this game since it takes more effort than just playing things on curve.
>>165342241
>DShift gets stomped by aggro in a ladder and rank with 90% aggro decks
Wew
You can't rank up with DShift, just accept it
>>165342105
>>165342131
I heard DShift Daria is making a splash though.
>>165341990
Why did you forfeit? I stopped hurting you at 1 HP for memes.
>>165342349
I had it for like 5 minutes before. I just want to get it back and I'll give up on ranked for this month.
>>165341990
Thanks, Zanven.
>>165342374
Daria bricks DShift and if it doesn't it was because you had a very unsavageble hand and it that case you would probably lose anyways
>tfw you share a thread with people who try to justify Levi existing
>>165342427
I didn't forfeit? You did. I achieved my mission too.
>tfw you beat 2 dirt runes in a row as forest
>play aggro blood
>not a single haven opponent
>switch to aggro shadow
>suddenly 3 havens in the first 3 games all prepped with banish
>>165342131
It's boring and unfun for you
But i can't rank up at all with it, 90% of my DShift games are in unranked where i can have free fun with it
>>165342525
Weird. I didn't on my end. As long as you achieved your mission, that's all that matters.
>play aggro sword against daria
>perfect starting game
>reduce her hp to 10
>she makes it back by spamming dozen of followers in the board and controlling it completely
Is there no hope for sword against Daria?
And no, I don't care about memetrol sword.
>>165342529
Best feeling
I know I'm missing some cards here. I just wanna know if there are some here that should be changed as well? Yes I know it's 37/40. I just haven't crafted them yet.
>>165342585
Alright, thanks mate.
What's your excuse for not playing T1 neutral forest?
>>165342604
There was an Aggro Sword list using 3 Albert 2-3 Aurelia and 2 Tsubaki
Thats the state of sword right now
>>165342621
>no Liza
>no Dance of Death
Shit list.
>>165342621
I would probably drop a goblin or water fairy and a sylvan justice to put in 2 death's dances.
>>165341770
Visibly shaken
>>165342604
Where's your evolved albert x2 for 10 damage?
>>165342336
>550 games
>average A2
There are lots of shitters in AA1 with 500-520 games
>>165342681
People literally concede when they realize that you are playing neutral forest
>>165342786
>surviving daria until turn 9
can't do that
Possible to make a viable totally neutral deck?
>>165342826
I mean topdecking 2 albert on turn 5 and 6.
>>165342735
>liza in roach otk
Based Odin actually showing up in matches hes actually needed and not only against aggro.
Fucked had 2 seraphs on hand so he literally made me wreck him after I banished them.
>>165342564
What is your favorite deck of HS? if is freeze mage or OTK warrior fuck you.
>>165342806
So there are people that play this game hardcare with metadecks all day ?
Is easy to get a lot of wins with Daria bby.
>>165342681
Post deck? I tried neutral dragon but it doesnt work.
>>165342604
Nobody can do anything if they play evolved Levi with Runes, Gazers, and a Dorothy soon after, or in the same turn just because you're Sword.
anyone tried this deck?
ARIGATOU SERAPH-SAMA!!
>>165342764
So basically I'll make x1 roach, x1 ancient elf then add x2 dance of death correct?
>>165342918
Not him but freeze mage is the most fun deck in HS because it doesn't play like HS.
>>165342621
-3 tia
+1 feena
Fill in the rest with either selwyn's command, wotf or DoD
>>165342621
Take out Wings because you don't need them.
>>165342954
Plays and feels like a watered down aggro deck compared to rune and blood.
>>165343000
Handlock was pretty unique as well, 4 turns of doing nothing then drop all the big guys.
>>165342964
Oh I didn't even see you were missing a roach too, but yeah maybe drop a tia and a goblin or water fairy when you get an AE and another roach. All those 1 drops are nice until you are drawing a bunch in a row, so I would say cut a goblin and water fairy to make it fit. The 2 tias would be the flex slot, I usually run will of the forest, but that is because I run into aggro blood most of the time.
>>165342923
The card that you can't see is bahamut x2
sorry anon but it's only a meme deck that i use for forest daily since i hate that class
>>165342918
Fuck off back to /hsg/.
>>165341698
where are pp, attack, defence?
HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO WIN WHEN LITERALLY EVERY DECK CAN WIN JUST BY ATTACKING YOU LIKE 4 TIMES WITH RANDOM STORM FOLLOWERS???????????
>play against blood
>they have the perfect curve from the first turn
>play blood
>end up skipping a turn cause kek card draw
>>165341975
don't play on tilt
>>165343425
You storm them first.
>>165343425
>play wards
>aggro decks concede on turn 5
now you just need to deal with daria's balance levi + piercing rune combo
>>165343425
t. bad haven deck
>>165342954
Might try it out since it seems interesting with Cyclone. I still feel like regular Aggro is better though.
>tfw all draws and mulligans are shit
>>165343494
>pick a deck full of wards
>win against daria and blood
>lose against everything else
Nah, it sucks.
>>165343586
But the ladder is only about Daria and Bloodsource:/svg/ thinking men
>>165343586
>win against roughly 50% of ladder
sounds pretty good senpai desu
>>165343494
>play ice golem
>dance of death I take even more damage now
Why people say face dragon is tier 3? It so strong since almost no one is running strong ward. Only possible bad match up is control sword or dirtrune.
>>165343639
It's true
>>165341562
Alteil is like the only CCG I know that has no random card draw but no one plays it so whatever.
>>165343661
the solution for you is to stop playing rune
>>165343661
Aurelia
>>165343738
Because no one in /svg/ actually play ranked.
We just whinner all day like retards.
btw show your dick
>>165343738
Post deck, i don't give a fuck anymore about my rank
>>165343639
>>165343654
The way this game works if you pick a counterpick it counterpicks your pick.
>>165343781
This is only 66% of the ladder.
Can someone provide me a great OTK deck code. I wanna try that deck.
>have to go first
>don't draw your 1 drops
WORST FEELING FUCK YOU
>the enemy gets an extra evolution point to make up for their 'disadvantage'
>>165343854
>Playing Bats
>nothing but Control
>Booting DShift right after
>agggggggrrrrrrrrdrrrroooooooooo
My SV
>>165343854
>tfw no cute as a button, pure, loli, short-haired, joyful, happy, loyal, devoted, neko wife
Just waiting for that rope to arrive any day now, should be there tomorrow. Post cutest girls of the new expansion until then.
>>165343738
How did you deal with rune's removal? Face dragon has no way to spam multiple followers and run out of steam by turn 6.
>>165343885
I mean OTK Roach
>>165343798
>>165343818
Swap the gilamesh for another forte and its 10% better. Im just too cheap to craft another one.
>>165342604
Dunno, I do fine against them with CSword unless they get the nuts turn 4/5.
>>165343781
Aggro blood is what I face most of the time, I was surprised when I ran into a dragon
>Opponent drops 4 wards expecting roaches
>Mfw I'm wolfbolt
>>165343991
This is fake Csword is dedsource> /svg/ master players with iq of 800
>>165343971
No Eyfa?
>>165344008
Post Wolf dick, i need to use my 2 doggus
>>165343961
Well i only play one daria so far with this deck. You just have to use siegfield fanfare and get them to around 10-14 hp by turn 6 and its gg usually.
>>165343971
One Master nip was playing with a deck like that.
>1st game dshit daria
>2nd game shadow nep
>3rd game aggro shadow
>4th game daria
What is it with all these rune and neps in the ladder today. Not salty Ive won 3 lost 1 but its the same deck all games. Im running Cblood.
>>165343165
>tfw will
>>165343961
> Face dragon has no way to spam multiple followers and run out of steam by turn 6.
This is the problem of the players here...
is there anywhere i can hear arisa's eng gasp?
heard its hilarious but i dont wanna swap language
>>165344173
/svg/ source says that ladder is 90% of Daria and Blood.
But actually there are more than 8 decks running in ranked desu.
fuck sleeping I'm just going to kms
>>165344057
I tried eyfa but you need card draw so i swap it with goblin mage. Using goblin mage is more important since you are less likely to run out of fellower/cards. 1 forte is usually enough to end the game around turn 7.
What do you think is the best and worst alternate leader?
>>165344453
>best
Forte
>worst
jap Vampy/screeching machine
>>165344375
pls don't tell me you lost against sword with daria
>tfw 21 minute game against Seraph
>Fucker had 2 Odins
>Fucker had 2 Bahamuts
>We went on for 22 turns
I live for this shit
>>165344375
It's hard sometimes to stop playing when you are really tilted, but taking a break is really the best thing.
>>165344375
This is fake /svg/ top players said that ladder is only about Daria.
>>165344453
>best
Vampy
>worst
Latham
I'm going to fuck the gobu
in the vagina
>>165344453
Best is Forte, worst is that alt sword guy
>>165344495
>talking shit about Kugyu
>>165344338
All my games are just rune and shadow. I have already done 8 matches and only those 2 classes.
>>165344536
>Statistics show that Rune and Blood are far and away the most played classes in the game
>Shitpost every thread about cherrypicked screenshots that don't have Rune or Blood in them
Can you stay banned this time? Thanks.
>the current state of sword
This is suffering.
>>165344558
Careful, she's hiding roachesor Wolf / Duke guy
or Vampy
>>165344497
it's dimension shift. I was 300 points away at 10:00 last night, 100 over at midnight, and now I'm at -900. this is literally fucking bullshit. I can't win against anything. no matter how good my draws are or whatever I do I just get rolled over. I have 20% win rate in my last 10 games.
>>165344630
>Haven
>>165344674
STOP
PLAYING
DSHIFT
IN A LADDER FILLED BY AGGRO
>>165344674
Stop playing Dshift if you want to climb you tard, the meta for it is garbage right now unless you queue into the rare control deck
>>165344502
What is your wincon? What did he odin? Juno?
>>165344621
Statistics say that rune and blood are 46% of the ladder and inside of this d-shift and control blood are largely played.
>>165344703
Play elana seraph made me reach A rank in a week back in the old DE days.
>>165344743
>>165344773
but I only play this deck for ranked. I got to a1 somehow so I should be able to get back to it. I don't understand why I can't win anymore. all I did was replace 4 cards that weren't even useful.
>>165344674
Serves you right, faggot.
I'd rather face a thousand aggrofags than a single shitter like you.
>>165343925
What's most insulting is when you brick going first, while opponent curves perfectly because they got the extra card draw. And then they play their 4 drop evo to "regain" tempo.
It's just way too easy to brick when you start out with 4 cards in any non-aggro deck.
>>165344831
1st Odin was on Olivia, that should've been a tell that he has another one
2nd Odin was on PtP, even if I had baited it out, he would've Bahamuted it.
>>165344832
Err, yes, that's what I said. The guy I replied to just cherrypicks screenshots that don't have Rune or Blood players in them and makes passive aggressive comments.
>>165344858
You can't reliable beat Aggro decks, no matter what shit you change
DShift was and always will be garbage to rank up but absolute cancer at master
>>165344832
surprised shadow is being played so much overall
>>165344858
>Comparing D to B meta to A and above
Well there's your problem
>>165343971
It doesn't work :^)
>>165343925
>>165344920
THIS FUCKING SHIT RIGHT HERE
Going first is meaningless if you don't get a perfect draw from the first turn.
>>165344630
At least you can fap to Otohime's armpits.
>>165345045
I literally got a1 last night and then immediately lost 6 games in a row. I just want to get it back before I ragequit ranked until the next expansion.
>>165345083
But you have a mana advantage until turn 10 :^)
>>165345105
Please don't post lewd things about my wife.
>>165345118
Sure, just keep playing with a deck you can't win consistently with. You'll climb eventually.
Can someone provide me a tutorial for OTK Roach? I don't understand how to play the deck.
@165345083
@165345134
Don't want to enter in this shitter talk.
>>165343971
>>165345059
Nope
Hopefully Forte will be useful next expansion
>>165345228
but how? I ranked up doing the 6 win mission and had 60% win rate. now I have 10% and it's literally impossible to gain points.
>>165345279
>Newfags not knowing how to quote
>>165345083
>>165345134
>>165345316
Gee, it's almost like ranking up puts you up against tougher opponents?
:thinking:
>>165345274
Learn math.
>>165344616
Post your replay screen as a proof.
>>165345301
78110
Just no forfeit; I don't care if you win or try to bully me.
Also it's Zanven in case we've played before; I'm only at like 7/20 for the quest.
Hey guys what's the best Control Blood decklist out there atm? Should I be adding Odin(s) for Seraph/Morde?
>>165345379
He did it intentionally to deny people their (You)s
>>165345390
Math isn't my problem. My problem is how to do the beginning.
>>165345385
I ranked back down to below where I started dumbass
>>165345482
Autism
>>165345379
>actual newfag exposed
Most of my dirt mirrors end like this because my opponents insist on playing Stan even though he's shit.
>>165345481
There's no consensus everyone have the own deck.
But yeah if you encounter too much neptits and seraph is good to add 2 or 3 odin.
Hearthstone player here. What's the best class if I want to go face all the time?
>win
>100
>lose
>100
I swear. Stop matching me with low rankies.
>>165345634
Aggrobat or any sworddeckbut sword is weak nowdays
>>165345634
>IP didn't rise
Stop trying to start shit because you're board, go outside.
>>165345690
Sorry I'm clueless about what you're trying to say
This was one of the most retarded matches i ever had
2 Seraph and Tribunal from the mulligan and he had nothing but spell removal until i caught up
That poor Defender in my hand was my second follower drafted in the whole match, i don't even know where the fuck he farmed the shadows
>>165345539
>bahamut
I, too, love destroying all my sigils. I can't even imagine how top-heavy your deck must be
>>165345469
Thanks Cata, but we played before so no golds for me.
>>165345641
>losing to low rankies
>>165345634
aggro blood, blood is literally warlock
>>165345279
>being at a disadvantage cause you lost your only advantage by skipping your first turn means you're a shitter
>>165345385
Different guy but
>over 10 winstreak one day
>next day lose streak with the exact same deck playing the exact same opponents at the exact same rank
Any tips on piloting OTK Roach deck? I'm having a good bit of trouble closing games out especially against stuff like Daria or wards
I am not good
Need someone to face race with.
24770
Let's talk about children's card games while we wait.
>>165345780
>low rank shitters with fotm
Yeah, fuck you.
>>165345745
Go outside and get hit by a car.
>>165345495
You play cards, and chip them and/or stall until your combo. What's there so hard to understand?
>>165345567
I always have trouble deciding on a final decklist. Also I don't even have an Odin, but I have enough vials to craft 2 legendaries, so just wondering if it's worth it.
I think this is also why i drop in ranks, with hands like this everytime
>>165345527
Nah, you are just retarded.
>>165345895
Make a deck without it and if you ifnd a lot of seraph and mordecais craft.
>>165345791
Just be yourself desu
>>165345746
Using a spell gives you a shadow.
>>165345910
Lion in the first hand against daria is good desu.
you can throw one cudgel for bait too.
>>165345518
where do you think you are nigger
>>165344093
I wouldn't recommend copying this it's extremely suboptimal
>>165345928
t. Retarded animeposter
>>165346080It was DShift
>try to build deck
>lose
>adjust deck according to gameAi
>win
i guess i'm a shitter after all
>>165346115
>animated with unanimated cards
i'd say it's unoptimal, yeah.
>>165345750
Your field isn't always loaded with sigils, my dude. They all get consumed toward the end of the game, and sometimes they even get knocked out by an opposing Bahamut. He's a fallback and a wincon against everything that's not Daria or Shadowcraft, and a fairly reliable one at that.
But for the record, my curve is 3-14-5-6-5 (3 of which are Fate's Hand)-2-2-1-1-1.
>>165345910
>havenbab bitching
>>165345969
>>165346080
>desu
Stop posting anytime.
>>165346204
baka desu senpai
>>165345878
How do you stall when they always try to trade with your card so you can't chip them and the cards that you need just won't come out
>>165346201
Considering i have like30% winrate with deck
>>165346265
You have to be at least 18 years old to post here, newfag. Go back to /hsg/.
>>165346158
I'd gladly make a fully animated deck if the pack Gods would allow it
>>165346115
If you're playing defensively consider Pegasus Knights, since they can easily 2for1 on turn 5 and you should already have some.
>>165346204
I'm using ''desu'' normaly
>>165345910
Ancient Lion Spirit is a bad card.
Yes, I am smarter than the Japanese.
81891
can I get a concede pls
I want to be free
>>165346115
Where are your board clears?
>Ungas in charge or reading
>>165346359
>that infinite train of identical girls in the back
>>165346364
No it's the whole deck hating me
I am considering to pack in 3 Uriels because i feel prism priestess aren't enough to fishing any of the 3 Seraphs i have
Most games i never draw it
>>165346506
I could bet my ass you still lost that game.
>People that take incredibly long amounts of time on easy, obvioys plays
>daria
>spams removal on all your followers while vomiting her entire hand
Even if she doesn't draw daria, how the fuck do you deal with this shit without an aoe?
>>165346514
Just realized it
>>165345274
You hit face. In case there are wards, concede.
>>165346615
you don't.
>>165346304
May and sylvian.
>>165346615
Daria is not op the magic man with rune is.
They have free burn without drawback.
Elf porn
https://exhentai.org/g/1016470/654ed0f7fb/
>>165346463
I haven't crafted any yet I'm low on vials at the momentmy main craft is Haven
Is anyone else a little concerned that the past few expansions have increased the speed of the game?
>>165346739
>Vore
Thanks but no thanks.
Can you do roach with only 3 ancient elf and no other forest legos?
>>165346752
In the end it was a mobile game first, they will always push fast aggro and combo over slow control.
>>165346583
I guess I'll take your ass then.
>>165343949
>being a furfag
>>165346951
Yes. Roach could use tia but it does better without her I think
>>165346951
Yes, many lists are dropping the Tias at this point.
>>165346991
How many times did he attack face before realizing he needed to clear the witches?
>>165346514
alien invasion!
>>165347157
I think he quickly realised that he fucked up, but based Taboo dude meant that he had to clear him or lose his Aurelia.
>>165346728
Turn 4-5 Daria is pretty OP just because it's a 5/5 on the board with potentially other stuff. The deck has other ways to win other than just Daria either way.
>>165346506
jesus christ, the unga meme is real
keep in mind some of the pack promos ended
rate this garbage
>tfw on steam
>>165346138
i also test decks vs practice elite erika, her deck isn't that great but it seems it's rigged a bit because she almost always has a nice curve and is very aggressive, bad/questionable decks don't withstand her and it quickly highlights how prone your deck is to breaking
>>165347058
>>165347059
Have a good one without her? Game-ai doesn't have one without her that I can find
playing elana makes me paranoid people will destroy my amulet
this game has turned into hearthstone with all the cancerous decks
>>165347560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRIjBd8p5sE
>>165347493
I'd keep it you have a lot of good cards, Daria and Aurelia are top tier, Vania is god tier, Selwyn's is god tier, lots of other stuff is playable
>>165347493
I recommend rerolling, but I started with worse back in DE.
>tfw had to craft all my shadow golds and cerberus
>>165347493
good enough to keep
>>165347539
just found out this guy is pretty good in elana decks
Seraph isn't as comfy as DShift, in fact it makes me nervous and feel like running agaist time to find both the Seraph and countdown reduction from my deck
I want my vials back
>>165347663
Thanks, all I'd need to build are the ancient elfs for that one
Why can Alexander attack 14 times in a turn? Such a fucking meme. There can only be 5 things on the board anyways. And he can't hit face. It might as well say "attack 5 times in a turn" and be less cringey.
>>165347781
There is no such thing as a bad enhance card in this game.
>>165347720
thanks for the vania and selwyn comments ill go see in what they are strong etc
>>165347739
>>165347764
ok nice
thanks guys
>>165347839
Play the hybrid elana build then. If all else fails you just hit them in the face with a juiced up unica.
53881
16/20 plz hlp
>>165347881
because it used to be infinite times but if he attacked 15 times the game crashed. you can do it against a mordecai if you have that one minion that makes your dudes immune to damage
So I have been trying banner sword again. After a couple of matches I can say that againts Daria if both players draw well Banner>Daria. If banner draws badly and Daria draws badly Daria>banner.
>>165348035
I left because we already played earlier and it won't help your quest; sorry.
>>165348021
Selwyn deck is expensive, focus on a Vania deck (aggro blood) for a cheap start
>>165347493
how much packs do you get now?
>>165347881
>There can only be 5 things on the board anyways.
except when he kills something that spawns more followers
Oh, tell me why...
do we build vials in the sky.
Oh, tell me why...
all the vials way up high.
>>165348061
I wonder why it crashed
>>165347881
suppose it is 3 bone chimeras, its 3 chims 6 skeletons... i wonder if he can have enough defence though. what units also spawn other units on death... 5 bone chims are 15 units but you cant have 5
i think they aim at future cards
>First turn player can now mulligan their first actual draw
Is shadowverse saved?
>Elana's prayer still not nerfed
>>165348154
Maybe because I haven't seen anyone playing this and winning, but I don't get the decks that use this card. It seems to slow and the benefits are not that good when it procs.
>>165348246
is that even a T1 deck anymore?
I thought pure seraph is better now
>>165347881
also actually 15 chims it is 14 units because one skeleton puffs because the board will be full
>>165348097
ill look into that, i was trying runecraft because of the legendaries and only recently found out goldens are very important too
when i was trying to think about what id want to play yesterday aggro blood is definitely interesting to me
>>165348120
cant say for sure i think 40 from tickets?
>>165348291
its still OP people just dont use it because they want the shiny new decks
>>165348246
The slow as fuck T2 deck?
Nerfed?
>>165348336
*5 chims
grrrr
>>165347315
>start out with Clarke and multiple spellboostable followers
>flood the board on turn 4
>start out with Craig and Dorothy
>flood the board with a 5/5 and multiple 3/4s on turn 5
>start out with Levi and Piercing Rune
>completely take over the board on turn 4 while setting up to flood the board next turn because you got 2 free spellboosts
Kinda silly that people claim the deck is only OP when they get lucky enough to pull of an inconsistent combo, when there's so fucking many combos they can pull off to make things start spiraling out of control. There's no single card that they absolutely need to do their shit.
How do you mulligan properly Pure Seraph?
I lose lost of matches because my poorly mulligan decisions and not only with Seraph but with other decks too
57331
Could I have a concede please?
(if you need the completed matches achievement just let me beat you up)
>>165348571
post deck, I have (some) experience in Elana seraph.
>>165347493
Good amount of legos, but most of them are either meh or shit. I guess it's worth keeping just because you can make aggro bats dirt cheap thanks to starting out with two Vampies.
78512
Concede to me and win the fabulous price of three half naked lolis.
IM JUST AN MAGE
WHO IS OLD AS DIRT
>>165347908
That 1 cost tentacle vine card for Elf is pretty shit. I've never seen anyone use that axe card for Vampire either.
>>165347881
I think it's supposed to be equivalent to the number of modern countries he conquered.
>>165348735
15 year olds are not lolis
>>165348592
Thanks, Dad.
>>165348738
MAYBE, JUST MAYBE THIS MAGIC WILL HELP!
>>165348773
Tell that to the judge
>>165348687
Bring back Cynthia
>want to play anything that isn't control blood
>daria fucking everywhere
FUCKING GUT LEVI ALREADY
>>165348484
>pull out spells and 0 things you can spellboost
happens a lot
>>165348828
Jokes on you. Legal age here is 15.
>>165348337
golds are often more importand than leggos like elana, dshift, otk roach have golds more important than leggos, for aggro blood leggos are rather detrimental
>>165348773
that's JC range so still a filthy ãƒãƒªã‚³ãƒ³ in Japan
>>165348870
But he is just a mage, who is as old as dirt
>>165348735
Thank you my dude.
>>165348773
Fuck off.
I'm new to the game and can't get out of fucking D1 because I keep losing to Darias
>>165348484
Even if you recover from all that and remove everything you basically have to heal somehow because you've taken so much damage or you'll just die to more Levi evolves, more Piercing Runes, Demonic Strikes, DoD, their only Storm follower, or even Magic Missiles.
>>165348945
how old is dirt exactly?
>>165349013
As old as my love for you, anon
>>165348268
You'd be right.
https://youtu.be/Ms57D8QJoaE
It counts down a little faster than you'd think, and you get some good burst if you trigger it with Otohime or a Floral Fencer evolve, but it's still not good enough to justify how much you invest into making it work. I've actually won more games where I failed to trigger it than I've won games because of it.
>>165348337
Honestly you should enjoy the game in unranked for as long as you can. Your unranked matchmaking is tied to your ranked matchmaking so if you rank up you'll have fun winning with any deck but suddenly you'll hit a wall of nothing but meta decks, which is fine you should be able to make a meta aggro blood but it'll be the only thing you can play "well" from then on.
If you just hang about doing unranked and dailies for awhile you can have a lot more fun starting out, when you have 2~ meta decks you can consider playing more ranked for fun.
To start out with do all the campaigns with all classes, beat each expert AI (not expert 2) and do some achievements and things, you'll end up with a ton more gold to buy more packs with as well as arena tickets.
Think wisely before you spend your vials too.
>>165348836
Keep Plea obviously. Against aggro you want Scripture and Temple Defender, against other decks you can work more towards building board/amulets. Honestly not sure how much value you're getting out of Guardian Sun.
>>165349035
gay
>30k point elf trying to kill Flood Behemoth with roach
Nice 1hp lmaoShe gave me the *gasp* and conceded
>>165348836
You don't really have good 2 drops. Also consider getting more healing/drawpower maybe?
>>165348291
Elana's still good.
>>165348968
What deck are you using?
Can you post a pic of your golds and legends?
>>165349106
Fine, I take it back faggot
>>165349186
It is poverty Elana, I'll post it after I am done fighting this discard dragon
>>165347881
They had planned to make it unlimited, but there is possibility for an infinite loop. So they chose a historical reference and went with 14
>ramp dragon spends his entire turn ramping up against my aggro deck
>disconnects when I rape his face in
Really now what were you expecting?
I WANT DARIA SLEEVES
>>165349248
historical reference?
>>165349202
that's another anon
>>165349316
how?
>>165349316
200 bucks and its all yours.
>>165349316
>>165349386
~$500 on the Japanese google play store
>>165349386
200$ in google play cards, nips only
>>165349386
be a jap willing to buy a lot of googleplay cards in the past
my wife is happy! that makes me happy!
>>165349386
>>165349434
>>165349475
>>165349489
Yeah I know how to get it, we just need them to give the west a similar deal.
>>165348887
I can see that happen, but it's not as bad as actually fully bricking. You can still draw cards and hold back opponent with sniping. You'll have a bad time against aggro, but it speaks volumes that the most popular "counter" to Dorothy is playing aggro and praying that their initial draw is shit.
>>165348061
Immune to damage minion???
It's still not consistent, but I love a crazy aggro shadow pull.
>>165349525
>marrying a dwarf with a thing about blacks
>>165349619
athena
>>165349619
Athena
SOMEONE STOP THIS MADMAN
33518
I need a concede for a mission
>>165348836
Keep Plea all the time obviously. Cudgel if you go 2nd, and Scripture and Temple Defender if you play against aggro. I would honestly change this deck a little though since you have too many Ancient Lions and countdown cards. Guardian Sun seems pretty useless too.
>>165349525
>marrying a slut who will fuck big black dragons behind your back
>>165349703
wtf are those decks
ghostly grasp, huh
40452
Gib concede
>>165349707
Thanks tiny elf!
>>165349847
i was testing whether the +13 shadows amulet would be good when not combo'd with tyrant exclusively. it is not.
water fairy leader when
>>165349636
>>165349825
>not being a big black dragon
>>165349864
thanks luna!
Tell me all the things you like about you favorite character
For example I love the idea of tying up Erika and making her wetter than a Russian prostitute
>>165350005
i didn't have enough creation points ><
>>165350050
t. the Princess
>get bahamuted into genesis dragon in arena
Should I reroll?
>>165349636
>>165349825
I am black though
You know it's time to take a break when even a ptp elf gets a god hand against you and drops ptp on turn 5 with 30 shadows. Fuck me.
>>165349186
>>165349232
I just threw this together with help of a guide, spending most of my vials and replacement I could come up with
>>165350174
Is your name Jamal?
Why did this guy just leave mid game like a coward? Where is his nippon honor?
>>165350225
certainly need also 2 themis, 1 elana
>letting Reaper get big
>>165350152
Yes
>>165350050
I want to do pic related to Erika.
I'm so fucking retarded.
I got used too much on thinking on Forestcraft that play 2 cards to get the buff for a certain card, that I thought Ancient Elf is the same. Fuck. Didn't read. Sometimes I'm pretty sure I should have dropped it in turn3 just to stave off some aggro.
>>165350410
what did you think it would do if you didn't play 2 cards beforehand?
>>165348484
Ye. feels kinda bullshit when they can fill the board spam lots of spells and draw lots of cards for literally no costs.
>>165350401
>breaking up with erika
Good choice anon. Bitch is terrible in this meta and went by everyones hands on the last one.
convince me of not using my t2 ticket to enter, spam left and immediately quit for welfare packs
>>165350225
you need 2 more themis and 1 more elana
then drop that forbidden ritual for 1 more monastic water or rabbit healer
>>165350225
remove aria for a third unica, rabbit, and frog
playing it vs aggro is an auto loss
>>165350379
>>165350524
Kill yourself moeshitter
>>165350524
You could get more welfare packs by playing well.
>>165350524
Spamming right is better desu senpai. Left a shit
>>165350524
They're shitty standard packs, either save your take two tickets for when there's an event that changes take 2 rewards or go all in for the gold rewards.
>>165350468
I thought she wouldn't get the +1/+1 and just return the cards on the board and ward up. I'm new to Forestcraft so I really didn't think about it. Like I said I got used to seeing. Play 2 cards - get buff on this card.
Could have optimized my play better on turn 3 especially when I get 2 1/1 drops.
>>165349810
My concern is fighting Blood
I literally can't win with Seraph agaist it if they are pure aggro, it's too fast
>>165350524
You're throwing away a free 100 gold on average for about 30 minutes of your time, which would buy you another pack.
>>165350570
imagine if ancient elf belonged to bloodcraft
>>165350225
For a povery deck it's alright. You have too many 4 cost cards though. I would just take out the Sledgehammers though because Cudgel seems better right now. Put Radiance Angel up to 3 and put in a couple of Ancient Lion Spirits. Veteran Tamer doesn't do much for this deck so I'd get rid of her. You should put Rabbit Healer, Holy Water, and Frog Cleric at 3 too, and take out dogs. Just try to get more Elana and Themis.
>>165349519
>campaign is already over
>if you didn't whale like crazy during that 2 week period, your chance is gone forever
This is probably the F2P friendly freemium game I've ever played, but they still pull shit that makes me never want to give money to a Japanese company ever again.
I mean, it's just a fucking drawing. That they recycled from an existing card, which itself is recycled from from another game. They just had to add the frame to it, 10 second job since it's the same frame as the other sleeves. And then write one line of code specifying that this image can be used as a sleeve. It's like they take it as a challenge to create as little value as possible and still make money on it.
I just hope they never get the idea of pulling this kinda shit with more important things, like new leaders.
how the fuck do i deal with otk elf
>>165350351
>>165350526
>>165350570
>>165350696
More gold cards have to wait for more vial, but it seems true that the amulet cards are kinda awkward
People have so big boards so fast and waiting for those turns feels bad
>>165350792
kill them before they kill you
wards
>>165350792
death's breath
>>165350152
Bahamut is CUHHRAAAZY however only one Moon and one Albert won't give you much. Also Sahaquiel is currently a meme so...
Most likely a reroll.
>>165350524
I'm shit at this game and can still win 2-3. Just concede when you have to go 1st if you're really that bad a draft.
>>165350792
knock over their abacus
>>165349316
>>165349434
Oh shit it's $200? I just fought someone in the ladder in C2 with that. Yes I'm new I just started rank a few days ago.
Holy shit $200??
I AM ABOUT TO DROP 13K VIALS ON DISCARD DRAGON. SOMEONE STOP ME.
>>165350792
play control sword
>>165350894
i dusted a daria to play atomy tyrant memes. you go ahead.
>>165350792
Play Shadow, drop empowered Death's Breath and spam emotes. Rage DC when they manage to win anyways.
>>165350894
don't do it
keep your memes as dreams
>>165350767
it is not a bad deal, they didn't sell sleeves for 200$, they gave them as a bonus for buying pay cards which people can use for a few other games. they likely were paid by google
>>165350894
DO IT
>>165350894
Stop
>your opponent plays no minions for your beast dominator to suicide on
>beast dominator drops to zero attack and puts you in lethal range
aaaa
AAAA
>>165350894
hopefully you're doing this for fun and already have a good deck to climb ladder with, or you're already in masters
if either of those check out, then go for it
>>165350792
Trade to deny them the early face damage they need to finish you off with their combo.
>>165350894
dont fucking do it anon
>>165351008
>>165350894
I always beat them with aggrobat.
Our meta is aggrobat.
Think about what you are about to do.
>>165350616
I usually go 0-5.
>>165350630
There's no guarantee an event like that will go up anytime soon and I'm bored of ladder.
>>165350683
I usually go 0-5 and on the off chance I get a win that's 20 gold for an hour of my time.
>>165351008
>playing beast dom without vengeance
>HE CRAFTED 3X OTOHIME, 3X AURELIA AND TSUBAKI PRE BAHAMUT
>>165351096
Man, I love tits
>>165350673
Make room for Healing Angel by taking out Prism Priestess' or Sister's then. Exchange an Ancient Lion for Radiance Angel too so you can delay their lethal more.
>>165350805
Aria is still the easiest way to get a dominant board on turns 5-7 with Elana. It's more important to keep healing back damage and removing their board in early turns than to put down Elana against aggro though. They'll eventually run out of steam which will then give you room to put it down.
>>165350894
You have have meta decks for every other class meme it up, if not stop.
>tfw you will never have a faillen angel girlfriend to play shadowverse with
Life is suffering.
>>165351008
This is why everyone dusted the legend version.
>>165351174
>>165351305
I come here to escape feels like these
>>165351096
>tfw dropped that show at episode 10
Kyoani a shit now.
>>165351096
How about you stop going 0-5?
>>165351174
Aurelia is still good though, and Tsubkai is still a decent 1-2 of.
>>165351305
Literally a worse Umaru
Atleast the hamster is good at games, Gabriel is just a whale and would probably whine on /svg/ all day
>>165351105
sadistic night gives me no choice unless I want to risk overextending in those long grinder games
Wight should be a 1/3.
>>165351442
There's no escape anon.
>>165351174
>tfw didn't craft any and got 2x aurelia otohime and 1x tsubaki from packs
>>165351463
How?
I always pick Sword/Shadow/Dragon, make favorable trades, etc. but the opponent always pulls out some absurd constructed shit like 3x master of canopies with titania/pixie paradise.
can this card be used in aggro shadow?
>>165351446
>now
>>165351596
>Literally a worse Umaru
>Thinking Gabu-chan is worse than UMR
Are you on drugs or just retarded?
>>165351674
only barely useful in atomy decks
>go first vs forest
>lose
nice game desu
>>165350994
Calling it free doesn't change anything, it still pushes people into spending more than they otherwise would. You might justify it to yourself thinking you'll get your value out of those google credits eventually, but just sitting on all those google credits will make you more prone to spend them, instead of trying to maximize the value.
>>165351674
I don't think there are enough necromancy effects for it to be useful.
>>165351780
>>165351305
anime?
>Someone manages to be worse than you
Honestly, I'm shocked
>>165351902
it's right there on the image you dum dum
gabriel dropout
>>165351902
I'll tell you if you lick my feet.Learn moon runes you fuck, both images have the title.
>>165351248
There is no helping though
I have literally 10% win rate agaist Blood
Just got demoted again, make it stop
What does evolved Tsubaki say?
It sounds like "Vanish! Like the Jews"
>>165352184
Bats doing God's work indeed.
>>165351664
If you're regularly going 0-5 then you're drafting or playing wrong. You can't say it's random if you're always the one doing badly.
How good are you in constructed? If you have the game fundamentals down, read or watch some guides on T2 to see what you might be doing wrong. I also find T2 a lot harder than constructed because I'm a bad deck builder. Watch this guy, he does tons of videos of T2 and it's helpful to learn from them.
https://www.youtube.com/user/eversor431
>20 damage from hand in a game where everyone has 20 hp max
>fun and interactive
>>165351664
Shitting out followers on curve and hitting face as often as possible should out-tempo whatever combo wombo people try to throw out in arena.
>>165352359
Yeah JO Satan's pretty brutal isn't it
>>165352359
dshift or roach
64349
I need a win, please don't concede I also haven't finished the friends quest
>>165352340
where's the drafting tutorial one? I don't want to watch all this shit
>>165352575
Channel?
>>165351174
>start during DE
>decide I want to make a midrange sword deck
>reroll for an account with tons of legos and vial everything to craft it
>have fun for a few days, but get depressed from not being able to do most dailies since I literally don't have any cards to make other decks with
>end up rerolling again, this time refusing to vial anything
Felt kinda shit to only be able to play budget decks after knowing what a T1 deck feels like, but damn, I really dodged a bullet there.
>>165352575
There is no drafting tutorial, he streams his entire T2 run from draft to finish. Though he usually explains his picks, so they're all like tutorials.
>>165352359
Games aren't supposed to be fun.
>>165352506
Thanks Rowen
>>165352806
>>165352710
OK
Since you actually bothered being helpful to me, I'll watch the videos.
I've never met a disco dragon that didn't kill himself without me doing anything
>>165352806
Yes they are.
Now whether they're also fun for your opponent is another matter entirely
Need help with daily
42458
>>165352806
Tell that to my 2k hours in xcom
If you're at B0 and you lose a bunch will you go back into C3 or are you capped per rank?
>>165353068
Stay in B0
>>165352359
Better than heals.
>>165350386
>>165350859
Is this any better? I keep getting Bahamuts for some reason.
>>165352981
thanks mate
High master player, Taker of two and Selector supreme doing free coach
MP
>Trying to do dailies in unranked with makeshift decks
>Getting matched against master player gobu roaches
>I'm A1
Name fucking game shadowbabs
>>165351883
what about if i'm going to use it with midnight haunt?
>>165352359
>5+ card turn 10 combo can deal 20 damage if there are no wards or timeless witches in play
wtf nerf it now
>>165353458
Then you might as well go all the way and play an Atomy+Deathly Tyrant deck.
wolfbolt is better than roach
>>165353132
It's pretty good senpai, Olivia and Bahamut especially are really good and neutral so you can use them with anything
>>165353348
Mini penis?
>>165353565
I tried it and is doing amazingly well in A3
We got
Alchemy, not just
Chemistry,
All night long,
I need your magic desperately
>tfw intelligent enough to win with control blood
>>165353685
post dick it looks fun
>>165353685
made it for the first time last night and tried a few games before bed. The deck is an absolute blast. I'd recommend it to anyone that hates roach otk
>>165353685
Deck?
It's one of those days.
>played all day
>farmed almost 3k points>lost one rank and stalled on the edge of demotion
How was your day?
>>165353132
No it's not sorry
>all my cards from 8-10 in first rounds
why is this allowed
>>165353132
keep rerolling until you get 2 animated legendaries to vial and turn into aggro shit
>>165353685
I literally can't survive past turn 6 against Daria.
They just draw all their piercing runes and oglers and I can't clear live long enough to turn 7 to drop homecoming.
>>165346506
The average sword player IQ
>>165353132
Show your golds.
Just one more to go anons
Shadowcraft girls
>>165354062
Remove elf
>>165354171
Best girls.
>>165354062
Are you playing OTK roach? Can you post your decklist?
>>165354001
literally nothing sord can do against that board
>>165354001
DELETE THIS, SWORD IS ONLY FOR THE ONES WITH HIGH INTELLECT
>>165353984
Daria still a problem but like this guy said >>165353849 is to counter Roach OTK
>Piercing Rune+Piercing Rune+Crimson Sorcery+Blade Mage+Blade Mage+Evo to kill me turn 5.
Why is this allowed?
>dumb roach cuck panics and trades a roach when he would've had lethal
>>165354265
It's the standard game-ai deck with 3AE, 3 roaches, 3 goblin mages, 3 feenas, 3 EPM and fill the rest with 1 drops and tech in Sylvan Justice / Pixie Mischief / Angelic Snipe if you want.
You just have to be smart enough to climb with the deck.
>>165354281
>play amelia
>evolve and clear a 1/3
>play the 3/2 ward.
>only take 4 damage to face
A bargain!
>>165354171
I love frilly dresses more than thongs and stockings. Necro girls the best!
If WolfBolt is so fun posty a list then
I am too retarded to make decks myself, proved by the fact i am very stucked with Bats,Roaches, Sword and Seraph in A
I haven't played Shadowverse in a while, were nep decks ever good ? What about now ?
>>165354702
No.
>>165354702
shit
>mulligan and get 2x piercing rune, 1 DoD
>draw and get another DoD
Kill me
>>165354171
Meanwhile in elf:
>loli (Water Fairy)
>loli (May)
>loli (Liza)
>loli (Tia)
>soccermom (AE)
The rest is litterly who
At least Cynthia best girl
>>165354702
>brand new card
>>165354171
Surprisingly low amount of flat girls.Not even their leader is flat.
>>165354171
Charon is best
Post yfw they will nerf Daria/tempo rune/d-shift until it become the worst craft of the game.
>>165354001
Intentionally suiciding while spamming emotes is my only way to cope when there's so many Yuriuses out that I'm fucked no matter what I do.
>>165354832
>>165354809
titcows best girls
>>165354832
Nah. Just like Elana they will just introduce even worse shit to deal with.
>>165354702
They are good if you use tools to survive the early Kawai will carry late game alone;
Why arnt you guys just gay ?? so many good little boys in this game
>It's a don't draw any of your win conditions and slowly bleed to death episode
>>165354171
Anon, I think you forgotGhostly Grasp
>>165354832
Never ever
Rune is eternal
>>165354935
Elana was always ok.
Sword and Forest was really better than this.
>>165354998
Liking little boys doesn't make you gay.
>>165353793
>70% winrate vs the most common decks in the game, which make up 60% of the ladder
>intelligent
>>165354692
I took out master of canopies and don't run homecoming because I don't like it. Added 3 verdant stewards, help fills your hand and is a beefy ward in the late turns
>>165354618
>smart control blood intellectual goes face instead of trading when it couldn't be more obvious that I have lethal
>>165355153
This, Cblood is very straightfoward like Csword wasJK
>>165354935
>tfw they make a card that really make discard dragon tier 1 and all the bandwagonner start playing dragon again
>>165353919
>fuckinshitdeck.jpg
>>165353919
At least you got stuff to play
>>165355234
what could make disco dragon tier 1 if not even malchezar's imp in amulet form can't do it?
>>165354171
>Necropolis Queen
>Necroelementist
>Deathchaser
Why is it always the cutest ones who never see any use?
>>165355127
Yes it does
>>165355513
innervate
>>165355513
Makchezar's like card (add more cards to you deck nothing random just something that double all the copies of your deck)
Aggro need to slowdown
>>165355513
2 pp 2/2 fanfare, discard 2, draw 2 and reduce their cost by 1
>>165355541
deathchaser was used in control shadow in DE
shadow's 3 drops are full of good stuff, even more now, so you sadly can't put in everything you want
>>165355541
I'm sure Necroele has some sort of use somewhere.
>win 4 games as blood or dragon
Hmmm
I did promise myself to never play aggro
How often Game Ai updates the tier list?
I am expecting to see Seraph promoted to tier 1 and Blood demoted on tier 2 desu
>>165354832
They could literally just remove rune altogether and instantly make the game more fun for everyone.
>>165355794
Play thinking man's control blood.
95133
need that private match
>>165355808
a-anon my only decks are Daria and DShift ;_;
>>165355182
Will give it a try later in unranked
>>165355859
But it is really expensive
>>165355808
They could destroy rune and give some cards to other crafts.
Like petrify to shadowand no d-shift is destroyed
>>165355794
Good fucking luck doing dailies without playing aggro. It happens to be both the cheapest, most viable, and quickest for doing dailies, in almost every class. For sword and blood, you'd be dropping 40k vials just to do your dailies slower.
>>165355883
Sorry but you would have more fun with the basic cards than those two shits
>>165355942
Give kaleidoscope to shadow too. Time to get back at those hags for all the bullying.
>>165356068
i guess aggrobat is cheap enoguh for me to craft it at least
>>165354809
D O
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>>165355513
soulfire and doomguard
obv
>>165349340
>historical reference?
He died on the 14th day after being hit with an arrow to the lungs. So he can only attack 14 times because he dies after that.
this is a fun deck
>>165361676
You were supposed to die after Baha came out you dumb hag.