/scg/edg/ Star Citizen/Elite: Dangerous General #119

>Kerbal Space Program is a sim

lmao

>>165068427
I take it this is your first open world pvp game

>>165069462
They're reeling in the damage and survivability of engineered ships a bit, but they'll still be way too powerful for any non-engineered ship to have a prayer of competing.

Also they'll never remove solo mode, no matter how much of a glaring problem it presents to developing the MMO side of the game. Dad would have a stroke. Forum dads already somehow unironically believe that FDev has a "pvp bias," because apparently combat balancing only applies to pvp.

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>>165070428
>redeemer

Isn't that the reclaimer??

>>165070692

It very much is.

Why don't we kick EDfags off our general?

>>165071689

EDfags are just SCfags who are impatient.

>>165071689
Because EDfags are SCfags

>>165071812
beat me to it

>>165071689
>>165071812
>>165072031

Both games and playerbases are equally shit for their own reason. These two turds deserve to be glued to each other.

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postan best pack

>buyback time bitches

>>165072069
we should rename it space cucks general

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>>165072163

>>165071497
>Scale all fucked up
>Aerodynmics hugely fucked up
>Magic reaction wheels

good joke

>get E:D bout a year ago for Xbone[/spoiler}
>like the aesthetics, comfy space sim feeling
>get Horizons a little later
>enjoy the cool feeling as approaching planets
>get other games, loose interest in E:D for a while
>hear the stuff about the aliens showing up, Colonia getting started
>want to get back into that space exploring feel

Is it a good time to come back? I've wanted to make the run to Colonia for a while, but wanted to get a bigger ship first

>>165072438

Whilst it has ease of use added, it's still a sim in comparison to ED, SC and others.

You should overlook some of its weaker points in that you do have a large building aspect added.

If you've only got a few craft to simulate, it's a lot easier.

what is Colonia

>>165072649
You realize space "sim" isn't something that is trying to replicate reality, right

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So what's /vg/'s opinion on the aliens in E:D? Do you think they're going to be adding onto it every month/year or do you think that was it and now we have to wait for the next Expansion/Update?
I'm hoping it's timed, like we've been probed by the Asari and now in a few days something more will happen, until the climax at some point.

>>165072768
It's really fucking stupid is what it is.

All it is, is that people found a AI controlled base near the center of the universe, the closes one to the center and then made Colonia. Now the Devs made it so that it's an event and if we want the Colonia Space Station to stay we need to send resources to it in a timed event. The people who get the most to Colonia can have their own, special snowflake, fan-fiction/RP base there for their own Clan/Guild

>>165072801
>star citizen official character creator.jpg

pls

>>165073043
>The people who get the most to Colonia can have their own, special snowflake, fan-fiction/RP base there for their own Clan/Guild

So they made it EVE?

>>165072801
>Opinion

It's nothing but a cutscene right now. It's exactly like Capital Ships. So to me it's cool for the first time they show up and never again. I strongly doubt Frontier is going to take it any further for fear of upsetting the dads.

>>165072801
This is FD we're talking about. If you think a feature might be cool, it won't be. I guarantee you the alien cutscene was the result of a switch they flipped, and nothing else will happen until they flip the next one. Players certainly won't be able to dynamically effect anything.

>>165073584
No. It's fake colonization that players can't control. Just like everything else "plot" related in the game, players can only superficially participate until FD decides it's time for the next step.

>>165073653
>upsetting the dads.
What?

People would get upset if there was more to do in the game outside Space Trucking and taking invisible, theoretical people inside your ship to look at planets and fly them to the next planet?

>>165073842
Yes. If Frontier make the thargoids too powerful and start killing players, there will be riots. Also I forgot to mention, Frontier already fucked up with the Thargoid Scout, pirate NPCs can attack you while you're in a cutscene so they need to get their shit together real fast if they want to introduce more of this shit.

>>165073958
So wait, people would get upset if a faction started to attack them in a game called Elite:DANGEROUS

I mean isn't that a risk? I mean, this is a open ended fucking space game with fucking aliens. If I don't feel threatened by Pirates, Pirate Players and now aliens I don't think id call the game Elite:DANGEROUS

>>165074513
I can see you're new to this general. Yes, Elite Dangerous has a staunch player base which abhors any type of combat, especially PvP. Basically, introducing anything that forces them to no longer play as they would like is a cardinal sin, which generally means that any combat forced on them is literally the devil and must be purged.

>>165074513
Listen you don't understand dad at all, you're clearly new here. Dad doesn't want challenge, risk, fun, or any kind of interaction with other players. Dad wants to fool himself into believing he is good at something by playing a game that rewards time invested over ability at playing. Dad wants FD to suck his crusty old british penis because his wife won't anymore.

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>>165074704
>>165074780
Holy fuck, are you serious? I mean, I'm a bad gamer, I'm really fucking bad but I love the thrill and challenge.

Jesus Christ, I mean I dont think I'd play Star Citizen but is SC going to be the same after its theoretically upgrade from a Tech Demo?

>>165075061
Roberts seems to love combat, so I don't think so.

>>165072801
Delete your picture.

>>165075061
My understanding is that there will be safe spaces for dad, mainly in the more central, heavily governed systems. Also apparently dad gets a slider that allows him to turn off pvp, for some reason. It has been said that the lawless, outer rim systems will feature free for all pvp, as well as higher payouts to compensate for the additional risk, so at least there will be some fun places in the game world.

>>165076213
>Turn off Pvp

Turning it off was never a thing.

>>165076213
>Also apparently dad gets a slider that allows him to turn off pvp, for some reason.

nope

>>165076213
I hope so, because its just silly if everything is going to be for carebears

>>165076420
I really hope this doesn't happen.
Don't like to play multiplayer ? Then don't play.
I've done the same with ED : Didn't like the devs forcing my hand to do trade grind. Uninstalled

what does sq42 vertical slice mean?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7RQC2W7C7Q&index=2&list=PLLcod52t0kpch_W3JG1ujZ5O7TVeyBLfy

>link related

>>165077940
Dad doesn't want to play with others. What if they shoot at him? What if he actually has to learn how to play? Better to pretend you have a big video game space dick than actually have a big video game space dick,

>>165079909
>Dad doesn't want to play with others
then they should do as I said and not even fucking launch the game

>>165077940
>Don't like multiplayer? Then don't play

There have been one or two anons trying to argue that this concept isn't fair. Usually their reasoning is rooted in a selfishness, that no matter what since they decided to buy this game (SC) they're allowed to experience all the content with no obstacles in their way, including players.

>>165079909
>>165080105

To play doubles advocate, Frontier promised a single player game that wasn't online only up until like a week before release.

Solo mode is pretty much the only remainder of that promise

>>165080258
>Doubles advocate

Anon please. Also they should be demanding Frontier include that offline solo experience then, instead of trying to ruin the game for other people.

>>165080387
>Also they should be demanding Frontier include that offline solo experience then, instead of trying to ruin the game for other people.


What do you think Solo mode is

>>165076213
>>165075061

I'm hoping dads will primarily stay with ED, rather than switch to SC.

>1) Dads like rewards for time invested/brand loyalty
Dads switching to SC will be giving up all of those thousands of hours worth of ED farming for their ultimate space truck.

>2) Dads hate social interactions with non-Dads
Can't just retreat into solo/co-op mode in SC.

>3) Dads hate combat/challenge/new things
and the biggest factor:
>4) Dads get extremely jealous and absolutely hate it when non-Dads can have fun/earn spacebucks in non-Dad sanctioned activities
The very notion that anything could be more profitable than mining/trucking in a Dad-approved safespace will infuriate them.

>>165080506
Not offline and not solo.

>>165080506

You need an internet connection to play solo-mode ED. That's not offline.

>>165080584
Its certainly not "ruining the game for other people"

>>165080564
this is actually a valid point, FD forum dads have been saying that they hope all the "entitled millenial literal psychopath fucking griefing pvpers" will switch to SC so they can show their wife's son screenshots of their asp in front of a black hole in peace

>>165080724
When you play solo, you still affect the game for others. You affect the economy, you can take part in community events as far as I'm aware. So yes, it is.

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>>165080258
I have no problem with that. Frontier has made clear in the past and now that they are focusing on pleasing that demographic.
What I don't want is these dads to just jog on in SC with their pair of crocs, thinking this is the new ED.
Even though I will too mostly play most of the time in secure space I understand that occasionally encountering a pirate or just some random noob who wants to try his hand at PvP is a risk and an inherent part of the game.
If those dad want to be all alone with their autism I suggest sending them to an asylum

>>165080856
>You affect the economy

>He thinks E:D's economy is dynamic

>>165080724
Solo actively harms the Open Play experience. You have an equal effect on the BGS, Powerplay, UA bombing, community goals, etc, rendering any attempt at meaningful opposition/blockading in Open completely useless

>>165080936
Oh of course it's not dynamic. The point is, a person playing in solo mode can change the experience for a person not playing in solo mode. Therefore solo mode is not actually solo, and it's definitely not offline. I don't see how this is something that can be fucking argued against.

I feel like the "solo capital ships are fine and not a balance problem" retard will be showing up any second.

>>165080856
>individual players having even the tiniest impact on the game economy/warfare

>>165081121
You just said you can affect the economy even solo.

You can't affect it online let alone solo. Its not dynamic.

>>165081221
Alright fag read >>165080979 and let's cut the bullshit.

>>165081357
>waa someone keeps bombing my exploit station its NOT FAIR

Newfag here, is it true you can control each thruster individually ?

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Do other people who like SC also like starsector?

I've been playing it while I wait for 3.0, which will never happen. It reminds me of cool space battles that might exist in the future.

If so, what mods do you like the best for it? I just got it and im doing vanilla, but i'd really like a better campaign overworld.

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>>165081152
>>165081221
>Huge number of people saying "I'll only play in solo mode"
It's hard to effect economy solo, but that's not what's fucking happening. Things like those community events have tons of players flocking to them, mostly in solo mode so they can't be stopped. That is actively effecting the people playing the game in open and there's no way you can ignore it.

>>165081569
No, why the fuck would you want to do that

>>165081535
If there were invisible enemies that could fuck with your faction and you wouldn't know until it was already too late in any other game, you wouldn't defend it

>>165081672
You shouldn't respond to the shitter. Soon as he made that comment I realized this.

>>165081672
>>165081748

>The universe isn't interesting or memorable enough, its all too bland
>WAIT STOP I NEED EVERYTHING TO BE UNDER MY CONTROL, NOTHING DYNAMIC MUST HAPPEN ROOOOO

>>165081664
For fun

>>165081603
Starsector is great--I hope it gets completed one day, I'm not dissatisfied with my purchase of the game but...once you have 2 battleships and their escorts running around killing pirates gets a little old.

That being said the random skirmish mode is fucking great. I think my favorite ship is the Wolf-class corvette series.

>>165081854
You misunderstand, it's not that we don't want the universe to be dynamic, it's that we don't want invisible people to be able to do whatever they want without us being able to stop them. The more dynamic, the better, but not if dads in solo can do whatever they want without fear of opposition. This is not hard to understand.

>>165082084
Whoops--meant frigate, not corvette.

>>165082205
>that we don't want invisible people to be able to do whatever they want without us being able to stop them

First off, you're not going to be able to "guard" a station.

Secondly, not everything is under your control, learn to accept that. Learn to get immersed, scrub.

>>165082205
Anon stop, he's just going to say some stupid shit to you like he did with the

>Wahh someone UA bombed my exploit station

>>165082415
If you genuinely don't understand why the ability to become invisible and do stuff to the game world and other players' factions is a problem, then you are literally a retarded person. Fuck off back to the FD forums where you came from, dad.

>>165082754
If you can't handle espionage, you're definately the problem.

>>165082834
Holy shit go be fucking stupid somewhere else

inb4 lol I trole u

>>165082938
Can't shoot it so its a bad mechanic huh, kid?

>>165082938
Why do you keep responding?

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>>165083050
People will respond seriously to this.

>>165083306
I've just had this argument on the early ED forums with so many dads that this shit triggers my vidyuh autism. There are tons of people who unironically believe what that anon was saying in the ED community. I'm done sperging about it now.

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>>165075061
Big difference from ED to SC :
SC is made with few interesting missions rather than 10 shit one, it will give you fun stuff to do while flying and cool place to visit even if you don't meet anyone.

Gather all the promise and we will all be playing like DAD(tm) simply because killing other players isn't the only thing to do. It's just something that might happen while we play for a much wider variety of reasons.
So rather than ganking players who prefer coop over PvP the game will make you interact with players who want PvP.

SC is meant to have everybody have their own kind of fun (PvE / Coop / PvP)
ED is still trying to force an unique VISION of fun on everybody.

Where's the latest place to skimmer farm? I wanna make a quick space dollar.

>>165084110
17 Draconis is down for now, pretty sure Naitis still works though. It's not as good, but it works until you 17D is back up.

>>165084358
Thanks fellow spacer!

Is there an ETA on when the space trucking aspect of SC comes out?

>>165083792
I know exactly what you mean.

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>>165084481
h-have fun commando

>>165084717
it's in 3.0 and no there is no date for it

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PvP slider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4SABcj4a8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-5FWftRwRQ

>>165082754
(another anon)
Do you realize you talk like a goon ?
Goonfleet gathered in Eve Online around the intent of never caring for others and taking everything that wasn't bolted down by the developers (and we know how well it worked)

Not a lot of pledger wish to see that sort of goonery happen in SC. That mean you will only have PvP with people and place that are acceptable for that. You won't see the difference the game is 90% and other PvPer will take you on
But no divine right to fuck someone who just wanted to play PVE with friends.

So don't worry you'll have your little safeplace where you can express your aggressivity without fear of being branded as griefer or some socially inapt person.
Just chill and accept that other people don't want to have to kill you in loop to have their own fun

>>165085670

Thank you

>>165085736
I can tell by the way you type that you're the "solo capital ships are fine" retard.

Your attitude is a huge part of the reason ED is and always will be shit, and now you're infecting our last hope for a good space MMO, too. Do us all a favor and just neck yourself, my man.

>>165085736
Wrong

>>165081616

Community events are designed to bring players to the same area and create that kind of effect. Players following incentives created by the devs in order to behave a certain way does not really demonstrate player impact on the game... as since the behaviour was engineered by the devs, if they were competent you wouldn't even know if the "player impact" was actually due to players or just devs adjusting things.

We were talking more about players making the decisions on what to do in the game, and their actions making an impact on the game... not players doing what the devs want the players to do, and the only impact they have on the game was the one that the devs designed them to have.

>game advertised as having pvp
>pvp is openly stated to enable a piracy mechanic
>buy game despite not liking pvp
>see solo mode option
>see private server option
>decide to play open
>carry valuable cargo
>get mad when you're attacked by someone playing the game as it was intended

You have to admit, it's your own fucking fault.

>>165085736
>>165086056
dads

>>165086778
hypocritically blind dad

>>165086778
>E:D
>Piracy

good joke

>>165086907
You must be new here, only >>165085736 is saying dad things

>>165087163
>I'm not the dad, he's the dad
>t. dad

>>165087287
>not knowing what dads are
lurk more

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>>165085736
Don't forget daddy-o, the first trade and piracy missions are going to be internal to the Crusader system. Once you are pinned as a poi for being a cargo captain, your precious slider means nothing, and you are on borrowed time. You have to pick up your missions and handle cargo at some point.

For now though, I need you to work under the assumption that you will just casually truck cargo around Crusader without any interference.

>>165084358
>Naitis
The target outpost on the planet is guarded by an already flying ship and what I'm guessing are 3 AA turrets. Not very quick.

>>165088281
There should only be one of the 4 possible ground bases that has any turrets, and they aren't AA turrets. Just ignore the ship. Put 4 pips to SYS, bomb the skimmers, and relog. If you turn off your sensors then the enemy ship won't trigger the 15 second relog timer.

>>165070249
I ended up with 15$ in store credits somehow. Should I use it to ccu the LTI Herald to a Cutlass or upgrade package Mustang to an Avenger?

I like the Herald but I feel like I'm wasting my LTI on a 85$ ship, plus I can't do anything with it until 3.3 at best.

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Hey goyim

>>165086948
What is a hatch limpet breaker?

why does the fuel scoop have a similar sound effect to interdiction
ffs

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>>165089298
>everything is rendered by the server
>mfw I wonder why I bought a $500 video card if everything is rendered on the server.

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>>165087968
>daddy-o
>American Psycho
>Not pic related

>>165088697
Nope. Checked.
Naitis Values Party would be the one to side with as opposed to Naitis Alliance Bridge because of the two factions, NAB has an outpost on a planet. However, Naitis Alliance Bridge's only planetside outpost has AA and two ships guarding it. The only other outpost is an actual Keep which would be suicide to attack. Also, cutting sensors reduced the 15 second timer to 8 seconds.

I'd like to think I'm just doing something wrong, but as far as I can see, Naitis has no quick shekels.

>>165091087
When I did it there were 4 possible target bases, 3 in Cupinook, and 1 in Wolf 406. 3 of those bases were small undefended outposts, and 1 was slightly larger but had no AA turrets. This was less than a month ago, so unless they changed it very recently without saying anything, it should work.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLcod52t0kpch_W3JG1ujZ5O7TVeyBLfy

Squadron 42 soundtrack samples. Quite dope, if you ask me. Ranges from tacticool to atmospheric to cryeverytiem

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is the thumbs up supposed to look this dumb? he does it normally while prone

>>165094627
is this a leak or what, where are these coming from? they are all labeled Vertical Slice, I thought they had abandoned/completed that and the first ep was supposed to be pretty much done but for polish

>>165095056
They were hidden in couple of 2.6 PTU builds. Somebody datamined them.

>>165094627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWHC0Qz3qTU

Really wanna hear how this will sound with real orchestra

>>165070249
If my hangar consist of ships that are not flight ready, will they provide me with stand-in ships for 2.6 PU gameplay?

>>165096652
Yes, depending on the ship. I believe there's a list of what you get for what on the forum. Let me check and get back to you. Or you can check yourself.

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Sol

>>165097135
Do all those statistics and words actually mean or influence anything in the game?

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Erin looks kind of shopped in

>>165097280
Depends on what words you are talking about and if you actually give a shit about Powerplay

>>165097716
any of them

>>165097135

TWENTY TWO BILLION NIGGAWATTS

>>165097369
was this released today?

>>165098717
https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/818575546497929216

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>when you driveby some fag and he doesn't notice he's mortally wounded

Can you still get 15$ more in store credits through some shenanigans or did they already fix it?

>>165097135
home

I can finally upgrade my alpha to an avenger titan. I am so happy to never see that piece of shit again.

CR says SQ42 is "Probably" coming out in 2017. Huehue.

>>165097834
IIRC They all affect something besides population and controlling faction, but it doesn't really do much other than change buy/sell prices and what your map looks like

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>>165097135
bizarro sol

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>>165097834
Everything there means something for gameplay, actually.

>Controlled by, fortification, undermining
Powerplay information for those who still play it

>Controlling faction
Determines the superpower allegiance of the system as well as what's legal and what isn't, and whether or not certain services exist, like black markets

>Government
Influences what kinds of missions that faction is likely to give out

>State
Also influences mission types as well as what's "going on" in the system, for instance the Federal Congress is in a Boom state, meaning all trade profits are increased in this system, and trading has a greater impact on faction influence, and that there are likely to be trade convoys looking to buy goods at a significant markup (different states have different effects, obviously)

>Allegiance
Superpower affiliation of the faction, if you do missions for a Federation faction, for instance, you'll gain reputation (increases the rate at which you gain rep with that superpower's minor factions), and navy rank (unlocks system permits and ships locked to that faction)

>Population
Larger population systems tend to have more services, ships, and outfitting available in their stations, also ships and signal sources spawn with greater frequency

>Security
Determines the speed and degree of the local space cops' response to criminal activity

>Influence
The level of control a faction has over the system

>Relationship
The player's current reputation level with that faction, if you're hostile they'll shoot you on sight and won't let you dock in their stations, if you're have positive reputation they'll offer you higher paying missions

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objective ways to improve Star Marine:
-remove the stupid underhand grenade lob
-drop TTk for bodyshots to 1.5x that of headshots.
-free lean anywhere
-make the chat window visible by default or remove it entirely

niggers

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/citizens/15667-This-Week-In-Star-Citizen

>What this means right off the bat is an evolution of the “Community Manager’s Log and Schedule” that went up at the beginning of the week into a front-page post, “This Week in Star Citizen.” As always, it’ll be a chance to give you some of the highlights to look out for in the week ahead, but we’ll also use it to highlight specific content you may have missed out on in the past, as well as bring a much deserved spotlight to the work our Citizens do to enhance the overall Star Citizen experience.

>>165101375
?

Has there been a minor patch to SC changing the handling? Racing for the first time in a week or thereabouts and handling feels different (to the start of 2.6). Boost carries much less momentum especially (on the M50). In fact it just feels less drifty on the whole.

>>165091087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwZvagdUJPI

Not nearly as quick as 17D, but still faster than anything else.

>>165101775
You would have noticed that there was a patch since you'd have to click the Update button, dumbo

>That brings us to Friday. The end of the
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no real rtv = shitty atv talks
rip

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>I'm ready for 3.0, citizens!

>>165101889
Granted. I wonder why it feels different.

>>165101252
>remove the chat window
Hello nu-gamer.

>>165102001
I think you're ready for the treadmill, pal.

>>165102395
My mom says you guys just make fun of me because you're jealous of how handsome I am.

>>165102381
I said fix it or get rid of it. it's half assed and is purely a detriment right now. if they can't do it right then get rid of it. every match I open it 75% of the window is filled with wwwdsasdasddww because people tried to open it while dead or between rounds and it doesn't visually appear, but is still open, so when they spawn they can't move and don't know why. sometimes it takes several button presses to open it, I actually didn't believe it was in SM for a while because pressing F12 didn't do anything but fuck my controls.

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>>165102001
this guy is 100x gayer than me, but he has someone to take his picture for an internet forum. feels bad man.

>>165102627
Removing the chat window in an MMO is not an option. How else are you going to call people shitters and rent-a-cheat scrubs, if you can't chat with other people?

I agree with you 100% how retarded it and broken it is, though.

>>165098983
anyone has an answer for his?

>>165102832
>in an mmo
we're talking about starmarine here chub

http://web.archive.org/web/20170110012742/http://www.pcgamer.com/star-citizen-cheaters-face-permaban-with-no-refund-but-cig-needs-video-evidence/

>>165103089
The fact that you'd be willing to play a 2017 multiplayer PC game without a chat interface demonstrates how you're the chub, not me.

What does boost do exactly? Some youtubers talking about it being important in racing, but I can't figure out what it does.

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>>165102001

>>165103360
I'm a little confused about this myself. I've seen indications that boost is now a separate thing from afterburner. what boost used to so was overpower all thrusters, including maneuvering ones, so that you could use it to speed up down a straightaway or cancel a drift with the press of a button. now? who the fuck knows. AB fulfills only the former role, but I'm not sure if there's another function for the latter.

>>165103360
Boost is supposed to supercharge your thrusters for a greater expenditure of fuel. You can turn faster, accelerate faster, and slow down faster, but it's easier to knock yourself out with the g-forces you'll pull doing it.

>>165103457
Don't be silly anon, that's just the angel award my mommy bought me for being such a well-behaved and handsome young man.

>>165103193
>but-cig-needs-video-evidence/
This is what pisses me off about retarded devs.

Literally all you need to fix online games from cheaters is devs who care, a few thousand dollars, and a few lines of code.

Step 1) Put a killcam in the game.

Step 2) Put a "Submit kill for review" button on the spectator screen.

Step 3) Have a program on the devs computer that takes the 2-3 second killcam video that are submitted by players, in a direct feed from the main server, and have an experienced dev vet them.

Step 4) Put a "ban player" button in the dev's review program that automatically hardware ID bans any shitter using cheats.

Step 5) Partner with every single publisher in video games to promote anti-cheat measures and create a global black list of all player hardware IDs that have been banned from online gaming, and disallow them to play any of their games.

Battlefield could have done this. Call of Duty has had it for years. Yet Battlefield has retarded kill spectator where some orange model runs away in the distance and you can't tell if they are aimbotting or not.

Kill cam or kill yourself tbqh. It's the current year, why is this not a thing?

>>165103816
Killcams are cawadoody children shit you fucking teenager

>>165103987
I'd rather watch my enemy's screen for a few seconds to see how they killed me, than to be put in a generic spectate screen for 15 seconds, trying to open the chat box and call them out on renting hacks. I'd rather the devs dealt with these no-skill plebs than have my video games ruined by them.

There's no reason to be against killcams unless you're a cheater or contrarian shitposter.

>>165104170
Killcams show where the enemy came from and possibly how many friends he has and allows the killed to alert his own friends to these facts
of course that's irrelevant in Cawadoody which has no teamplay anyway and claustrophobic maps, but games where such things matter have no room for that killcam shit

>>165103626
>>165103660
Okay that makes sense, boost seems to stabilise you, and to take you around corners at a fairly constant speed.

Who knows how gsafe works now though, it's as if they've made it half comstab.

>>165084058
Other big difference :
You can play ED right now and this has been the case for months. It keeps being updated with new features and shit even though it's pretty boring and i haven't played in a while

SC is just a barely playable tech demo and will be like that for years.

I think it's a big difference right now.

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>>165105010
>Barely playable

This desperation, kek

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>>165105010
>SC is just a barely playable tech demo and will be like that for years
I don't think this is an honest representation. 3.0, coming probably in 6 months, perhaps a bit more, will offer netcode changes that will hopefully make crusader much more playable. AC and SM are pretty playable as-is. 3.0 will give us a full system to play around in with planets and the surface-level content of professions. If SC's devs were similar to ED's, SC would be "nearing release".

>>165105316
SC is barely playable.

There's nothing new in the PU except maybe some new ship or two and couple of new missions in a chain.

Racing courses need redesigning.

Pirate Swarm and Vanduul Swarm are fun a couple of times I guess.

>>165105620
>coming probably in 6 months, perhaps a bit more
That's a long time considering how long it's been in development already.

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>>165105651
>Barely playable

>>165103816
>Step 5) Partner with every single publisher in video games to promote anti-cheat measures and create a global black list of all player hardware IDs
and that's where you lost me. you're already looking at mountains of false positives with that system, but tehn you have to vet the devs, of you get shitters like the GunZ guy that banned people for 'hacks' that were actually just his own shitty causing weapons that weren't supposed to be available to be lying around for the taking, or his garbage autoban system that nailed people for 'aimbotting' because they were actually just good.

>>165105915
Regardless, it's a far cry from "years". With all of the features promised, if it is delivered as-advertised, I wouldn't blame them at all for taking that long.

>>165105651
>Racing courses need redesigning.
???
>maybe some new ship or two
I think there was four with 2.6, and usually a couple with every 2.x before it.

>>165103005
My last bump. I can swear I saw a picture describing how to get 90$ in store credit while only spending 75$ in actual money. Was that ever true?

>>165105976
>false positives
I mean cases where the dev can see their guns tracking people through walls, or where they seem to be always in the right place at the right time and pop up to shoot people when they are in weapon range.

I don't mean 'close calls', but reviewing really suspicious kills, especially where they just hold down the button and fire, and their gun flicks around from target to target getting headshots.

Those are really easy to spot, and should be just blacklisted.

>>165106273
might have included things like that mustang/aurora starter packs, they are (or were, dunno if this is still true) the same price, but the mustang is worth $5 more in store credit.

>>165106324
well it's nice that devs in your world are always cool headed and never in a bad mood, nor impatient from wading through hundreds of thousands of killcam videos from salty tards that don't know how to use the radar or live in australia and think lag is haxxors, but in reality the easier you make it to report and ban the more false positives you will see, period.

>>165106391
no, it was something about buying SQ42 and then adding a ship for 15$ during confirmation, and then melting something after 24 hours. Maybe it was something related to buyback token and that's why you were able to only doing it once

>>165106784
if you have to melt anything I doubt you're actually saving money, unless you're trying to sell shit on the grey market in which case it sounds like a pyramid scheme. it's probably bull and/or not worth the effort and would put you in a precarious position down the line when one or the other saw final release and you didn't have one on your account due to shenanigans, or some customer service person notices 'irregularities' and just removes shit they don't think you should have, which has happened before.

it might have also had to do with the warbond packages that I think are done now.

>>165103193
>As PCGamesN points out, the problem is that not everyone has access to video capture setups, and those who do won't necessarily have them running when they fall victim to cheaters. It's not like you can ask them to smile and hold a pose while you capture your evidence, right?

fucking poorfags. I run shadowplay 24/7 on an absolutely derelict card with no real performance hits, there is no excuse. this is the same level of argument as the anti voter ID garbage. if your system can't handle running capture software, or you can't figure out how to use it, there's no reason your opinion on what is and isn't hacking should hold any weight.

>>165107168
yeah that is the most sensible thing to do. I have 145$ in Store Credits and I thought I could make my way to Freelancer Dur without spending more money but I'll just buy the Freelancer package+SQ42 and make my way to DUR from there. Its only 10 dollars more really

Is there any way to get out of infinite spins when racing? There's no way to respawn manually now is there?

>>165108314
hold right alt + backspace

>>165108471
Fuck me. I kept on just pressing it and wondering why it didn't work.

Thanks anon!

>>165103816
>loves killcams
>praises Call of Duty
>has the naive world view of a 12yo
Good job anon. Hey, let's have a dev with 20 years of industry experience sift through hours of 3 second long MLG 1337 kills that look sorta cheat-y, instead of, you know, actual developing. Good thinking. Not just that but aimbots to my knowledge already try to seem natural so a few seconds won't be enough to judge anyway, aside from dumbasses who just jump from head to head. I know that I've had thousands of situations where I jumped out of a corner and managed to immediately aim at a guy's head. Am I banned now, from all multiplayer games, forever? Even worse when you have actual skill - I knew someone who had insane reflexes, could predict chokepoints and determine enemy positions by hearing their footsteps. Add to that CoD's penetrable walls and you get lots of kills that looked aimbot and wallhack as fuck. Is he banned from the entire internet now, too?

>>165108963
>praises Call of Duty
Stop replying to me. I said it has one, not that I play Call of Duty. It's like a 15 year old franchise.

Not having a killcam in Star Marine is like CIG is trying to reinvent the wheel and coming up with a square. Instead of looking to the industry leaders' standard practice.

Also nice strawman you have there, implying that I want CIG to stop working on the game to watch MLG youtube videos.

Don't reply to me, I won't be reading it.

>>165109352
>Also nice strawman you have there, implying that I want CIG to stop working on the game to watch MLG youtube videos.
What? You literally said you want an "experienced dev" to look at fucking kill cams all day.
>industry leaders
Call of Duty is industry leader in bad game design made for braindead casuals, nothing more.

Perhaps you should try reading your own bullshit, dumbass.

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>>165109352
>babby's first disagreement on the internet

>>165109352
>thinks the point was stopping all work on Star Marine and not the fact that you literally cannot put a human being in front of a screen watching kill cams the entire day without going insane

>>165110723
not him, but don't people do that anyways?

>>165109352
>Don't reply to me, I won't be reading it.
but how will you know if it's him replying, or someone else?

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Does anyone have a link to the post on Reddit or the forums with the E:D Dads complaining about the aliens and being pulled outta warp and how it disrupts them from Space Trucking?

I think the post on Reddit was deleted

>>165101252
>-remove the stupid underhand grenade lob

The only thing stupid about it is that first person view doesn't move and thus it makes it look like the arm is not connected to the body, otherwise it's fine. Other than the awkward as fuck body-arm thing, and the fact that it's a FPS grenade (so it's more rule of cool and game balance than being realistic) it looks pretty much how I was trained to throw grenades

>>165112635

>Does anyone have a link to the post on Reddit or the forums with the E:D Dads complaining about the aliens and being pulled outta warp and how it disrupts them from Space Trucking?

Wait what? I just came back to this thread after forgetting about Elite for like 4 months, did they actually do this? Are ayyliums actually implemented and as ridiculous as we thought they would be?

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>>165113324
Nah, all it is, is a cutscene that takes you outta warp (rare occurrence in certain sectors; you can find them on Reddit) and you see them, they scan you, and fly away. Before they do you need to scan the ship and the warp wake they leave behind for some info.

Apparently people are getting upset for two reasons. The major reason is, if you're being chased by Pirates, they can still attack your vessel during the alien cutscene when all your systems go dead when it scans your ship. Then the second reason is for the sheer fact it pulls you outta warp and does the process all over again when you've seen it once; however, the occurrence itself is very very VERY rare and only in a certain area.

Besides this, it's the fear of what's to come when dealing with these aliens. They assume that they're going to be pulled from warp regularly and attacked by aliens in later updates/expansions that they don't want. They don't want anything to bother them while they space trucking or taxing theoretical passengers to certain planets on their Cruise Ship

>>165113324
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doYvtexrr-s
Skip to 5:15

But that's all they've done so far. It happens randomly, in a certain area of the galaxy, and generally only if you meet certain criteria.

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>>165113753
>They assume that they're going to be pulled from warp regularly and attacked by aliens in later updates/expansions that they don't want.

DSP tier of wanting the game to play itself. That's why I never bought into Elite: Dads-r-us they don't want it to be a game; they want it to be a character building experience. They want it to be a second job.

How much of Freelancer's quality can be attributed to Roberts' original vision versus the developers who ultimately shipped it?

>>165114458
I've read people complaining that it was very obviously rushed/gutted

>>165101252
Remove enemy IFF triangles unless they get spotted by yourself or a team mate

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>>165112801
no it's shit and it needs to go. I have drawn you an awful diagram. you can see here a single screen halved by an invisible line delineating where the change from long distance pitch to halfhearted plop occurs. I have exaggerated to show my point. the problem is a few pixels' difference between them, with no indication of which you will be doing beforehand. the problem is that you cannot hit that center zone without changing your position, and unless you aim very high or very low you don't know if you're throwing 15 yards or five feet. it achieves the opposite of what it's supposed to do because you have less control than you would if the arc was consistent.

>>165113753
You kids just don't understand. I'ma hard working adult, I work 60 hours a week at minimum and when I come home, I want to relax the way I want to relax. Space trucking is something I always dreamed about as a kid, it's a dream job, quite literally. To haul the space lanes, seeing planets and stars swish past while I take my good time and listen to the radio or read all while keeping the economy afloat through civic duty and hard work. Kids these days don't understand that, they want action all the time, danger and nonstop explosions. That's not the game I paid for. I backed Elite's kickstarter, I put in hundreds of MY OWN money and this, this alien war is just not what I paid for! I can escape the sociopathic murderers in solo mode but not these fucking aliens! This is your fault, all you fucking "xtream" craving millennials, you just can't leave things be as they are, you need more action so now I have to fucking deal with aliens when I haul cargo. Fuck your generation.

>>165116676
So its an alpha and things are always work in progress. How about we see where this goes before we cry for blood?

>>165116676
It's shit like this which makes me believe that CIG's designers are incompetent degenerates. Why the fuck not just copy CS:GO's grenade system? Why make it unnecessarily clunky and shit?

will i get ayylmaosss without horizons?

>>165117162
B D S S E

>>165117014
>cry for blood
I am making recommendation on how to improve the system while it is in alpha, so I'm not sitting here in 25 years with a shitty finished product and a wider market saying "why are these mechanics so bad?"

>>165098842
>Star-Citizen Co-founder

heh

>>165081152
Well, I caused a boom and ended a civil war and regularly deplete my local areas palladium resources so you do have an effect, it's just a very very small one.

>>165082834
>can't handle counter-espionage
>calls other people the problem

First of all, you are the cancer. Second, I'm gonna dick your faction and fuck their economy up.

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>>165101252
forgot something else I meant to have on this list: the huge fucking spasms you go into when shot, throwing your gun all over the god damned place and guaranteeing whoever shoots first the victory in any straight 1v1 firefight. eliminate that and lower TTK, and you'll have the same results without the tedium of standing there emptying clips at each other. you'll also increase tension and make it actually tactical because you can't just run from firefights, so people would actually corner peek rather than run and gun.

>>165072148

I was looking through the ships list the other day. Terrapin seems pretty cool. Doesn't seem like it will be overly popular either which is nice.

>>165080258

So play and of the million X titles if you want single-player space sims.

>>165080258
so they basically got the worst of both worlds?
>whoops looks like you'll be playing always online after all
>we'll still give you this solo mode though that cucks the shit out of anyone that was hoping for a well balanced online with consequences and risk/reward gameplay
>not that this is of any benefit to you since you're still stuck with what is essentially always-online DRM and likely janky as fuck teleporting NPCs if you live somewhere rural

>>165097369
you can tell this is a photo op, the cans of pepsi aren't even open

>>165119948
I don't like her at all but she's one of 4-5 people who started the project.

Founder is pretty spot on.

>>165124269
I thought the same thing

maybe mr hoodie is just an unhealthy typical young programmer though, and is cutting back on red bull by having 2x pepsis

is there any way to launch a missile without going into the 360yoloscope camera?

>>165126421
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>>165126783
no, I don't want the faggy camera at all. the missile doesn't launch until you're in it. this is time I could be using to land distracting hits

Do you guys know how the asteroid exploit? Something about leaving a fighter by the asteroid with painite or something?

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>tali pilot thought he was hot shit for locking me up with torps while i was on someone else
>come back in my own tali with the EM torps that lock in half the time the normal ones do
>send two at him before they have a clue
>endless salt about how i got my locks so much faster then him and that i didnt do anything special
>mfw

>>165127394

>he doesnt know about the painite exploit

>>165113753
>get pulled out of hyperspace partway between systems by unknown alien technology
>hyperspacing to anywhere except a system primary is a feat impossible by any human means, let alone hyperspace disruption mid-jump
>AI bounty hunter manages to get to you anyway, even before the ayy that pulled you out, in order to collect that juicy 20k bounty

I haven't look at ED since 2.1

Did they make it more fun and less of a grind in 2.2?

>>165129116
citizenfag here, my understanding of interdiction is that you can follow a ship's hyperspace 'wake' and catch them that way. if a player's wake ended abruptly it's not beyond reason anyone following it would be dumped as well. in fact the video I saw of the AI pirate showed them dropping out in a tumble before correcting and turning to the player.

Should I upgrade my 300i to an Avenger Stalker? Is it more fun in Arena Commander?

>>165132517
Go for Avenger Warlock when you can, otherwise no.

What should I upgrade to if I just want lots of dakka in a smallish package. Just machine guns on machine guns.

>>165130408

Following a hyperspace wake doesn't take you straight to the ship you're following, it takes you to the primary body of the system they jumped to. If someone follows your wake and you get pulled out enroute for some probing they'd just end up at your destination system without you.

You can drop in on someone's supercruise wake or perform a supercruise interdiction to enter realspace in firing range of the other guy but that's not the same thing as hyperspace. It's like quantum vs jump points.

> the video I saw of the AI pirate showed them dropping out in a tumble before correcting and turning to the player.

That wasn't a tumble, it was a perfectly normal supercruise drop and turn to face the player. Tumbling is much more turbulent, though AIs don't tumble anyway because they're only spawned in based on random triggers, without any sort of simulation to explain how they got there.

Also that was a bounty hunter and not a pirate.

>>165120809
>>165123245
>>165123602
>Go to bed
>Wake up to more (you)s

Morning :3

>>165133040
Super Hornet with 3 fixed GT-220's and a flashfire mount with a Revenant on top.

Enjoy spending $70 in the Voyager Direct store.

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>>165102001
???

> Massacre Conflict missions will only accept conflict zone targets
Skimmer missions still going strong boiz. This is their 17D fix, missions are still stackable and one kill still counts across the board.

>>165140249
kek

>>165122196
>spasms
Sounds like this game has the exact same problem Planetside 2 had to eventualy fix

>>165122196
>>165143754
Aimpunch has been around forever

I assume they'll align it more to what armor your wearing, with heavies barely flinching at all

>>165122949
Because it's very expensive for it's size.

Are fixed cannons better than multicannons now?

Someone give me a tl;dr of what the Colonia shit in Elite is

>>165146606
Boring dad stuff.

>>165146130
with the new patch, fixed will be better than gimballed in terms of raw stats. In terms of ToT, depends on what ship you fly, what weapons you use and if you git gud.

Long range will get the damage penalty removed from the blueprint, with the added bonus of having no damage drop-off, and keeping the bonus of higher projectile velocity. Add high yield to take full advantage of that armor piercing and your C3/C4 cannons will be fucking beastly.

idk if these cannons will actually be better than OC incendiary MCs but it seems that the gap in performance will definitely close.

Let's not forget about plasma accelerators either, especially with overcharge/thermal conduit combo for like, 500 damage a shot

Personally I prefer cannons because I'm more into big damage, bursty weapons than constant DPS. Mixing cannons with railguns and missiles is pretty great

>>165146606
"""Colonial expansion""" near the galactic core. Dads deluding themselves that they have an impact on the game world when all it is is a scripted narrative 100% controlled by the (((devs)))

>>165146871
Flying a Python, using the three large slots for turreted pulse lasers to deal with pesky ships flying circles around me, thinking of switching the medium ones to cannons. Or maybe railguns

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some dad wrote a 400 pages long book about ingame adventures

the FUCK

>>165147152
Link?

>>165147432
waa(dot)ai(slash)j1RE

god have mercy on your soul

>>165147068
>python
>turrets

alright, unless you're running a trade build with shit thrusters, all you should have are fixed hitscan weaps and gimballed projectiles if you're not that good with fixed Other wise, go fixed. Also, frag cannons make MUCH MUCH better turrets because they literally can't miss, you'd be flying in a literal cloud of flak if you fill all your hardpoints, that's what I do in my tradeconda + huge MC. At close range, it literally MELTS NPCs and even players if they're dumb enough to get close of a flakaconda.

What you want for your python are two medium railguns, 1 large beam under the nose. Bind the 3 to the same fire button, use the beam to aim while the rails are spooling up, shoot the rails, let go of fire, rinse repeat. Ideally your rails would be high cap feedback cascade for PVP, sturdy plasma slug for PVE and practice. I'd advise to wait for the patch to hit beacause then beams will have access to overcharge and efficiency blueprints. In the meantime, sturdy is a good option. Either way you should be putting thermal vent on that beam.

Then put 2 large cannons in the two top slots, gimballed because the python to large HPs are quite far apart IIRC. Apply long range on those and go for high yield to literally kill your enemies from the inside out, dispersal field or force shell if you're a PVP troll

Enjoy unloading huge loads of damage all at once on your enemies instead of dribbling it little by little.

I use exactly the same loadout on my corvette except with 2 small rails and 2 medium pack hounds on top (high cap emissive/drag) for them hull tanker/silent runner dunks. With 2 medium rails you'll probably need your beam to be efficient for the lower heat generation but the python has plenty of power to spare so overcharge can be an option. I'll definitely overcharge the beam on my corvette.

>>165147152
>stop having fun that I don't approve of

Spoken like a true dad

>>165147880
Dude, thanks a bunch. Will def give a shot.

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>>165147565
>That writing tense.
>Calling this high school level is an insult to high school students everywhere.
>Far beyond any level of cringe I have ever experienced.
>Reading causes physical pain.

This is weapons grade, fully automatic, assault cringe.

>>165148374
you'll also get addicted to pack hounds if you get your hands on them

>Massacre Conflict missions will only accept conflict zone targets

RIP 17 Draconis

>>165148182
found the nigger dad
if you even read one page of that pdf
you'd see that its turboautism

>>165148458
>"I look towards the entrance and sure enough, striding powerfully towards me is Kree'Gna, my friend and sometimes partner."

>I had tried to bounty hunt my way across the sector without thinking about the difference between collecting bounties and repairing equipment shot up while trying to bag the folks those bounties were for.

just kill me senpai

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>>165148539
>system at war/civil war
>spawn massacre missions
>no conflict zones to be seen
>"""fixing""" massacre missions before conflict zones not spawning

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>>165149418
>I had tried to bounty hunt my way across the sector without thinking

should I even bother equipping the viper i currently have or save up for better shit, i only have like 7kk so far started playing a couple days ago

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>>165122196

How do I find a gf so I can become a forumdad?

>>165150198
You don't need a gf, just a soulless boring job that you try to emulate in your gaming.

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So I'm an above average FPS player but by no means competitive. I just sat down to seriously play star marine for a few hours with a friend and was the #1 player in every single match, I would become an ace almost every life.
I just would win every single engagement, didn't matter how many of them there were. Almost all my deaths were from grenades I never saw. So, serious question, am I just lucky or are players in Star Marine seriously this fucking awful?

Also the servers shit out really often. Otherwise it felt really fun.

>>165151129

Some players are awful, some are yuros playing with 300 ping

>>165151129
Varies. Most players are awful. Occasionally you get into matches with good players, which would be a lot of fun if pings were similar.

>>165151129
If you are close to the Virginia data center for Amazon, you would have a significant ping advantage while playing against yuros during the time you describe.

You are literally shooting around corners, unintentionally.

>was gifted ED+all DLC for Christmas
>try playing it
>connection too shit to even play solo mode

Thanks, I guess.

>>165140249
get off of reddit nigger

>>165152079
As an aside, the SC reddit is really bad. In fact the whole SC community seems to be awful, this being the best place. There isn't even a home for completely factual QA style conversation. But that reddit is useless beyond belief.

>>165149324
I don't have to personally derive enjoyment from something to accept that it has merit for those that do, dad.

>>165151306
>>165151375
>>165151383
I live in Tennessee so yeah, I guess ping advantage could have been a large contributing factor. Feels shitty for the people I'd kill over and over. I also feel like hardly anybody in Star Marine aims for the head. Most of the time I wound up shot in limbs and body.

Going for the head I dropped people as fast as any other FPS. TTK honestly felt good to me.

>>165152079
Reddit is far better than this place, but why are you so triggered someone might visit two places on the internet?

>>165152927
>reddit is far better than this place

Nah, it really isn't. When it comes to getting information, and discussing details, this place is much better. Reddit is just meta and circlejerk.

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>>165152927
cuz 4chan is le masterrace xD^^
reddit is sometimes faster than 4chan in terms of new info
>inb4 people fagging at me cuz I dont look up news by myself
sorry I am not putting my life into this that much.

>>165153169
>hen it comes to getting information, and discussing details, this place is much better.

Is that a fucking joke

All the XML spreadsheets are collated and posted on reddit.

Only thing here is shitposting 90% of the time

>>165148182
Seriously, what is with all the people in this thread cringing over some people who enjoy roleplay or writing shit?

Maybe I'm broken, but I don't understand what makes things "cringey."

Are people really so easily shaken out of their narrow comfort zones?

>>165153321
The spreadsheets are useful, but I'm referring to the discussion of information therein. Subreddits tend to do a good job of information collation irrespective of the game, but specific conversations are far poorer. Just look at the SC reddit now, most of the hot threads are memes/circlejerk, and the rest are 'news'. There's no discussion about the game proper.

At least if I make a post here about the game (loadouts, manoeuvring, racing lines, whatever) I can expect a number of responses fairly quickly - of which a few will be intentionally misleading, and the others concise and informative.

>>165153367
Writing a 400 page fanfiction as tribute to a game that has not even neared completion is autistic levels of obsession.

>>165153605
Sure, but where's the fascination in mocking it? His wasted time, his garbage output, why spend attention on it?

>>165153672
its like we're on 4chan or something
get the fuck outta here

>>165153672
For entertainment. I just opened the link, saw that it was actually 400 pages long, and chuckled to myself and moved on. Nobody's obsessing over it.

>>165153672
the most attention it's got so far is
>this shit is cringe as fuck
>autism.jpg
>lol dads in a nutshell

next thread nobody will care anymore, nobody's obsessing over it, damn

>>165153367
>>165153605
>>165153672
>>165153832
>>165153852
>>165153907
quit dading out

>>165153605
I'm not talking about just that particular bit of fan fiction. I'm talking about the overall appearance of disgust at anything vaguely roleplayish.

Is it just because people are roleplaying? Is it the quality of it? Why are people on 4chan of all places so disapproving of things outside the norm?

I miss when 4chan wasn't mainstream.

>>165153972
I don't think that meme means what you think it means.

>>165154175
The "meaning" of a meme is what a community attributes to it and nothing more.

>>165155114
apparently youre some autistic screeching nigger not belonging to the community then if you dont know what dad means

>>165155114
and thats not its meaning, dipshit

How do we fix Elite Dangerous™, lads

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>>165148182
>>165153367

>>165155438
E:D is the perfect dad containment "game", so I don't think anything should be done.

>>165155438
>How

Frontier would have to stop catering to the dads. Either drop the always online bullshit or step up their game and give people a valid excuse to always be online instead of piracy or their "background sim". They need to fix their garbage NPCs and AI. They need to fix their "foundation" of content, either by reworking it and extending it or axing it.

commodities are removed from engineer prints, rejoice!

>>165155213
>>165155228
I'm not the anon who is going hard on the "dad" train." I just thought the anon who was preaching about the meaning of memes was being a bit ridiculous when memes borderline have no meaning or are at best transient in their meaning. But sure, lash out at someone who smells of even the slightest whiff of dissent.

>some autistic screeching nigger not belonging to the community then if you dont know what dad means

Please do enlighten me. I simply must know the process behind this monument of reasoned thought.

>>165156418
dad isn't a "meme", autismo

Just plain slang, with a pretty much agreed upon definition.

>>165154175
>>165155114
>>165155213
>>165155228
>>165155719
>>165156418
>>165156490
all dads

>>165155614
wants to be the little girldad

>>165156490
I never claimed it was. You'd need to approach >>165154175 in that regard.

Just to clarify as I can see you're quite agitated by all of this. I am >>165155114 and >>165156418 and obviously now this one

Hopefully now you can direct your rant to where it is "properly" due.

>>165156418
stop replying to me.
If you aren't capable to understand the slang/meaning of "dad" after 119 chit chats on 4chan ON FUCKING /SCG/ you better kys.
I will not bother to enlighten you moron

I fucked up so bad, I bought Elite without horizons and only really found out how shallow it really is after hours of gameplay, now I can't even refund this.

>>165156701
Its "properly" directed at you, for not knowing the meaning of the term dad and getting incredibly pseudo-intellectual when someone calls you out on it.

A little tirade on memes also makes little sense if you're now saying you don't think it is.

p.s Kill yourself.

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>>165156549
dude who doesn't want to be the little girldad?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide

>>165156709
Ah, the clarion call of a man caught unarmed and unawares in a battle of wits. Always a breathtakingly stark reminder of nature's mysteries and eccentricities. Please, enjoy your day, anon.

>>165156869
>tipping so hard you measure on the richter scale

The shitposting is strong today

>>165156869
You have intellectually disarmed that man, plain for all to see! Perchance a finishing flourish, lest he press the matter further?

>>165156869
your comment truly proves that colleges/universities should abandon literature majors
all we get are jobless niggers on 4chan

>inb4 anon tries to look seemingly cool and relaxed to provoke
your wannabe fancy writing accomplishes nothing else than showing you off as a retard

why does this shit /scg/ become off topic everytime "dad" is posted
such low quality baits luring many anons into biting them

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Why can't we have a nice thread?

>>165157346
Because of dads. Dads everywhere.

>>165157346
It hasn't even begun.
Release will destroy this general.

>>165156701
>>165156709
>>165156830
>>165156869
>>165156987
>>165157217
>>165157220
>>165157396
>taking it all the way to the daddimension

>Long Range now removes damage falloff from range on the weapon
>Long Range no longer increases WEP draw
>Long Range no longer reduces raw damage

welp, time to go long range EVERYTHING especially on railguns and cannons

itt: dads

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>>165157642
t.dad

>>165157830
That's kinda sweet in a dad sorta way.

>>165158256
get out

this is a no dad zone

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>>165157642
>not being proud of having the ability to keep a woman for more than a few weeks, support a family on your income and have time to play games about space capitalism

>>165158935
A dad isn't about having a kid, a dad is a state of mind.

>>165159135
>a dad is a state of mind

Someone please make that the byline/subtitle for the next thread.

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>>165130087

>mfw "Did they make it more fun and less of a grind in 2.2?"

>>165085736

>you will only have PvP with people and place that are acceptable for that
>So don't worry you'll have your little safeplace

And you said that without even a tinge of irony. Impressive.

>>165159135
kek

is elite LITERALLY just
>go to conflict zone, kill shit
>go to resource extraction kill shit
>(((trading)))
>((((((exploring))))))

>>165159135
This is correct.
Most dads don't spend thousands on peripherals and play extremely slow paced simulations, unless they're also some kind of fucking dad.

>>165159836
Yes. But if you think SC won't be the same thing (with better multiplayer), you're fooling yourself.

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jesus christ the dads
>pic related

Everyone in this thread is a dad, except me. Get out.

>>165156709
whatever you say, dad

See >>164901826
Thank you.

These two games will never be free of dad mentality because both of their main lead devs are dads

>>165161558
Dads are people I don't like.

>>165161558
at least 2 posts next to the one you linked describe the term perfectly, nice job dad

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>That brings us to Friday. The end of the traditional work week, and if you’re anything like me, you like to kick back and relax a bit playing some video games, and that’s just what we’re gonna do, only we’re gonna Star Citizen with YOU. Join Community Managers Jared Huckaby and Tyler Witkin on Happy Hour Friday as they play Star Citizen with the fans LIVE on Twitch with a special guest streamer from the community,

The worst part of CIG streams is them playing the game we've all been playing for months with nothing new but cringey commentary.
Why the fuck do they think this is a good idea.

Fucking glad I never subbed to this shit, community team is clueless.

>>165105010
Your difference have nothing to do with the original topic >>165075061
Whether or not you can play a half-finished space game now or a possible AAA game once it's made, is another topic.

original question is wether or not the devs will allow you to play PvE and ignore goonfleet.

>>165109352
>Not having a killcam in Star Marine is like CIG is trying to reinvent the wheel and coming up with a square. Instead of looking to the industry leaders' standard practice.
Consider the following :
CIG didn't care bothering for a FPS-testbed demo because they are working on the game and eventually a system that will work better when playing the final persistent Spaceship+FPS game.

Maybe you are just acting entitled

>>165129116
I did wonder about that.
That's the problem when you script stuff that should be done with game mechanic

>>165162116
The community team is for the community (ie. the forums). In that regard, they do a fine job. The closest we ever had to a community team for "us" were the early to mid days of wingman's hanger.

>>165162116
It's easy and cheap and requires very little prep. They don't think it's great content, but it keeps the reddit and forum drones content.

>>165161558
>>165161672
>>165161743
seems like the edgelord was right
>>165155114

>>165162608
>Maybe you are just acting entitled
I think it's like going in to a restaurant and asking for a meal, and the waiter brings it out to you in a plastic bag.

"Where is the plate? 99% of all restaurants serve food on plates. The top restaurants in the world also serve on plates"
"Maybe you are just acting entitled" the waiter replies.

>>165162608
>entitled
this is where you know you can discard the opinion

>>165162996
>food analogies

/v/ confirmed

You have to go back

>>165159836

If you enjoy roleplaying, the game gets marginally better. I wouldn't recommend it though, I enjoy roleplaying in vidya that allow it but Elite is simply too shallow to roleplay in, unless you have absolutely no standards.

>>165163818
Not an argument.

>>165163961
Neither is "99% of games have a kill-cam" when they don't, nor do some of the most popular arena shooters