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>>164655723

>>164802107
>dat idris
I have not seen dis.

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i've tried AB toggle like some anons suggested but it doesn't seem to work at all alot of the time

am I missing something?

Aurora is the best choice

>>164802486
But I like the Mustang...

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>>164802486
it really is. the LN seems to have slipped through Ben's sausage fingers to emerge as a competitive ship despite it's humble stature and reasonable price. I want to slap whoever is responsible for the mustang right now

>>164803242
WHY?

How are you actually expected to use gimbaled guns and fixed guns together?

>>164803632
You're not

Am I retarded or does the flight model in SC just feel a little... off somehow?

Also, maybe I'm just spoiled by the sound design in ED, but thrusters and weapons just feel weak in SC. Are they planning on rehashing the sound aspects at some point?

>>164803774

it's off because they literally ripped up the old IFCS and implemented a new one which isn't remotely finished

personally I dislike flying in 2.6 overall

>>164803774
TTK of SC is way, way lower.

Flight model is more space-like than E:D, which is a literal flight sim in space

>general is still up and suffering

good lads, all of you

last i played, FD were about to add ship transfers so that you could send ships around without having to constantly buy Haulers to ferry you around to your ships. did they ever add that in, and is it worth reinstalling?

>>164803632
separately. I rented a 325a once long ago and at the time it had a pair of mantises and another gun who's name I know not, but it was low ROF and high damage, they actually worked quite well together. it probably helped that the 300 series have a uniquely plane like flight model, so you spend most of your time lining shit up regardless, but it was handy to be able to pot shot guys who were dodging around while having the BRRRRRT on standby for when they didn't see you coming and you could line up a good volley.

>>164803951
>he doesn't know
you poor soul

>>164803951
>did they ever add that in
yes, but dad complained like always, and now there's a lengthy timer before your ship finishes transferring, rendering the feature essentially useless

>is it worth reinstalling?
the only thing it's good for is scratching the space itch while waiting for SC to become enough of a game to fully replace it

>>164803951
>>164804156
Let's play a game. How could they cock it up?
Try and guess it.

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lol

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Where the fuck is my buyback token

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>>164804757

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>>164803471
It looks cool, dude. I'm hoping to paint mine or upgrade, but I still like it.

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>>164805172
>looks cool
there's no looking at anything when you're in the pilot seat of this shitbox

>>164805386
It's still in development, so they might improve it.

>>164805386
That unending fucking glare pisses me off so much. And whenever you enter or exit the cockpit your head clips through the top.

>>164806042
>exit the cockpit
yeah good luck. I can count the number of times I've gotten an actual exit animation rather than an eternal entrance animation on one finger. normally I just have to clip out and hope for the best.

>>164803242
Me too in all honesty, but it's really bad right now and even if rebalanced to current standards, it doesn't have a role that isn't outclassed.

Aurora LN made out fine because despite its weaknesses as a cheap starter ship, it's actually pretty special as nothing else close to its size is going to hit that hard or carry cargo. When you upgrade from your Aurora to another ship, the new ship will be stronger overall but will be missing something. When you upgrade from Mustang, most likely you will have strictly gained and not lost anything.

>>164803632
Can joystick + mouse work together?

>>164805172
nice parking sensors

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https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/366968

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>>164806042
>>164805386

Same kind of thing happens on a lot of ships to varying degrees

>>164806042
the glare was what made me finally snap and melt a $5 skin so I could CCU to the LN

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>tfw can't even look at the ED launcher without feeling sick to my stomach anymore
>tfw SC is nowhere near enough of a game yet to keep me interested for more than a few days

3.0, please.

>>164806528
>all that shitty feedback about retarded aesthetics with no mention of all the bugs and shit balance

>>164806901
Comfy may be a meme, but I found the glow effect of that gun on the inside of the ship to be a pretty comfy and oddly relaxing.

>>164808219
3.0 will have enough features pushed out of it into the next release that it won't satisfy you either

>>164809515
if people can race dragonflies through planet surface canyons, and I can hunt them from atmosphere 3.0 will take a long time to get old.

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>>164809515
where did it all go so wrong for space games?

>>164811178
When they began caring about realism.

>>164808565
Yes I do find myself becoming increasingly comfy as I'm firing on someone trying to tear me a structurally superfluous new anus and having the pip be less and less visible

https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/

For my ED bros.

>>164811908
At this point I'm more interested in http://www.assistedsuicide.org/

>>164811908
My remote machine went offline just as I was farming my... 40th? 50th? run of Quince.
No more ED for the next 3 days.
Is this good?
Is this bad?
Is this just a meme?
Why am I up at 4 in the morning?

E:D Horizons has been out for over a year now, did they not promise more than barren planets?

>>164812146
Horizons is a "season pass" with a season lasting an indefinite amount of time. However that indefinite amount of time has not equated to more content.

>>164812098
I wonder if anyone takes benzos to keep playing this game

>>164812395
Game supplements that.

>>164812320
Well okay

Planetary landings has been out for more than a year. Same deal, didn't they promise more than the same shit in different colors

>>164812921
Planetary landings, rainbow weapons, and ship launched fighters has debut already. Still need to implement avatar creation, multi crew (which doesn't even fucking include the ability to fucking walk around) and some "secret" final thing. That's pretty much what they've promised for this "season".

>>164813138
So they're going to hide anything other than barren planets behind another "season" paywall?

>>164813260
That's what everyone is assuming, yes.

Fucking Ayooo's won't touch me. I'm tryin' to have a Close Encounter and they're hidin' behind some corner like Whitley Streiber's Communion.

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Are they including new atmospheric flight models with 3.0?

Or at the very least, revising flying around on planets so it isn't fucking ridiculous?

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>>164813383

>>164814278
I strongly doubt CR's autism would allow anything less. they've already shown us the atmo flight changes that are dependent on the individual ships' actual aerodynamics and I wouldn't put it past him to delay it until it's working properly at least for the majority of ships.

>>164814278
atmospheric flight models are totally new. only developers know what revision of it will put in 3.0

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S H O T S F I R E D

What's the money making method in E:D right now?

I kinda stopped collecting money to engineer my stuff and now that I need it again, Sothis is ded.

>>164815558
does elite actually have any more depth to it than nms?

>>164815728
Passenger missions actually pay worth a fuck.
Trade is still a thing.
I think you can still do the skimmer missions.

>>164815558
Article link? Elite has quite a few negative reviews, "actually good" may be a bit of an overstatement.

>>164815897
Where the fuck do you buy passenger cabins?

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>>164815804
no lol

>>164816068
eddb.io

>>164815897
30m short of a Blooger and Sothis looks like it gives jack shit. Will try the skimmers, thanks.

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>>164815558
I dont own Elite: Dangerous because I only play good games.

>>164816635
Sorry pal, this general only caters to bad games.

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>>164815558

Because losing control of my character and sitting through a 5 minute scripted event where a starfish does the same thing to my ship as its little turdburgler friend is "fun".

>>164816068
Huge High Tech and Industrial systems tend to have most everything.

>>164816256
>30m short of a Blooger
You can do passenger missions in any ship, provided you have cabins.
Type 6 is a good place to start. The Beluga is just for show, and fighter bays.

>>164815987
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/01/06/the-elite-dangerous-alien-discovery-is-one-of-the-coolest-gaming-events-ive-ever-seen/#66b8fba101be

>>164817765
I've got a tradeconda lying around. Will try it out, thanks.

>>164815558
>"0 Things to Do", otherwise known as the "0 Things to Do at 0 FPS" that’s actually good, or the "0 FPS" that’s actually out...

What do i do with basic conductors and unidentified scan archives? its filling my tiny 4/4 cargo bay

>>164815897
Is 17 Draconis still going? I thought the war was over.

>>164819863
The two factions you need to be at civil war with each other aren't right now. The main faction (Jet Bridge) is at civil war, but with another faction that doesn't have a base you can go kill skimmers at. The faction you need them to be at Civil War with (New 17 Draconis) is at Civil Unrest right now, so it could go back to Civil War, but it's pending states are Boom and Lockdown, so it'll probably be a few days at least, if at all.

So, not at this moment, but it could start working again if the BGS changes the factions' states. It has not actually been patched out, yet.

That being said, there are a ton of high-paying massacre missions being handed out, but you'll have to complete them the intended way by going to a CZ as the target faction doesn't have a base.

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I got out of E:D before the abyss stared back, so I never got past a Vulture.

Can someone explain how situations like Draconis 17 happen? Is this a situation that develops on it's own or is it set up intentionally and then yanked away? Has this happened before?

>>164819615
Pick that up on a planet surface? Never found anything useful for the cargo hold in the SRV.

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78th for best cap

>>164822502
I think it happens on its own. In that particular situation, I think it was mainly just that skimmers were counting as ships, which I imagine FDev will change ASAP.

>>164821269
Well, wouldn't it be possible to push the factions right back into that situation by supporting New 17D and keeping Jet Bridge temporarily in check?

>>164817895
>>164815558
>I have not played Elite Dangerous.
Article in a nutshell.

>>164815558
Is it really that impressive to people? I mean, it's just a short fucking cutscene.

>>164826859
The "gaming community" at large are impressed with any amount of cinematics. I'm not trying to rag on ED when I say this, but from some of the shit I hear from people, it doesn't take much at all to impress them.

>>164826859
While I don't love E:D, regret buying it, detest FDev, hate its playerbase, and only pop into the game after updates/happenings, I still think the game has potential. It's probably a pipe-dream, but the alien appearance makes me feel like the game is finally getting ready to get its ass in gear and become something worth playing.

I don't like the game, but I don't WANT it to be bad. I want a good, entertaining and fun space game and the pieces are all there with Elite: Dangerous. They're just scrambled and fucked up by Frontier's incompetence and their fans' straight-up fucking weirdness.

>>164806505
Yep. Still wouldn't mix gimbal and fixed.

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>>164802486
>>164803242

>tfw aurora LX and Mustang omega

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>and yes, if you're getting your fun at the misery of another player .. you are indeed a troll and a griefer, the only difference is in certain games they give a name and content for it "pirate" you can try and doctor it up any way you want, or claim its a "legitimate" profession, but in the end "pirates" are nothing more than griefers trolls and bullies.


Well guys? Is he right? A lot of dads put their retirement fund into this, wouldn't want to bullies to come and eat it up!

>>164814340
literally seconds in google

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communion_(book)

>>164833097
why you gotta egg on the piratedads like that? Their tisms are going to flare up when you point out how much of an insufferable child they are.

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>>164835357

But anon! He makes such agreeable points! Look at this one made just a few moments ago:

>so far everyone that has claimed to be a "pirate" has turned out to be nothing more than a bully, hiding behind game mechanics to get their way.

>>164835487
>pirate turned out to be a pirate!

So, what's the problem here?

>>164835487
He's not wrong

>>164835807
Well, they were a pirate for starts!

>>164833097
>there will be no pirates in the future of space travel and exploration
Immersion murdered right there, lads. I thought people wanted realism, not just a reason to get a hotas and sit in front of a computer while they wait for death.

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>Start playing E:D
>First attempt at a space sim vidya
>Lose 100 credits for weapon discharge
>Lose another 400 for blocking dock

I j-just want to p-play the game

>fuck realistic physics for flight model and dogfight action, we want FUN!
>BUT we have to make ultra-sure to fully simulate the effect of physics on your character's fucking EYEBALLS, we don't want to be unrealistic even if it means reducing fun!

Fucking what goes through these peoples' heads

>>164838371
How do reflections on your eyeballs reduce fun?

>>164838473
Kills framerate

>>164838371
This is not the first time I have seen this post. Is this some goonery?

>>164838660
Graphical settings can theoretically be tweaked from one user to another, whereas the flight model must be the same for everyone.

>>164838707
First time I've made it

>>164838473
I'm talking about G-force shit, that DOES reduce fun

>>164838863
Are they really accurately simulating g-force? It seems like they've been tweaking it for gameplay purposes.

>>164814278

If(inAtmo){
Rigidbody.drag ="1.0";
}else{
Rigidbody.drag = "0.5";
}

so what's the UEE equivalent of SPQR?

>>164837552
>ED
>game

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Concept for Daymar, third moon of Crusader.

sc noob here.

when you buy guns from voyager direct they dont have lti right?

it is better to buy guns with rec and test in arena commander right?

>>164838371
>Not wanting to see someones eyeballs explode in 4k as they try to avoid you with a high-G turn

gb2animalcrossing

2.6.1 when?

>>164839960
Yes

WHERE IS MY GOD DAMN BUYBACK TOKEN YOU TURBULENT PIECE OF SHIT?

>>164840536
thanks. i am guessing you cant use guns bought with rec in pu right?

>>164802107
Is it worth to buy Elite: Dangerous now that there are aliens to fight against? I need to play something until 3.0 comes around at Summer 2017 (hopefully)

>>164840765
you can

>>164843802
the fuck?

>using weapons bought in a game inside the game in the actual game

how does that make sense?

>>164843034
So far the ayys only come around to probe your anus and leave, there's no fighting going on.

That said, I would recommend getting it in the next sales along with the season pass, there's enough content to last you a few days but it's not worth full price.

>>164839121
Not what I was talking about, autismo

>>164843034

Just play Freelancer if you want to play an actual fun game

X3 if you want a boring truck sim

ED looks good, but it's not fun and the truck sim aspect is even more boring than X3

>>164844854
>X3
>boring

Fuck off, codbabby

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>>164815558

>>164845126
>codbabby
That's the extent of wittiness I'd expect from X3 fans

>>164844678
If my psuedo-code joke makes me an autismo I daren't even think about where you are on ////the spectrum////

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>>164813138
>multi crew (which doesn't even fucking include the ability to fucking walk around)
>In Elite:Dangerous
Get ready for the dads arguing that you shouldn't have npc-crew or the VISION will be ruined
I wonder how you even got to launch npc fighter.

>CMDR DadToTheBones
I work a grueling 80h week as an expendable worker, so when I get home, I like to sit down with a cold beer and pretend that I'm an expendable crew member in space in the little time off I get

>>164845126

Boring insofar as compared to Freelancer.

>>164845126
X3 is exceedingly boring

>>164845126
Let's look at the average X3 (or X2 or Xtension) starter guide:
>go to nearest shipyard
>sell all your upgrades and your ship
>buy a slow ass freighter
>go trade shit at a 2000cr profit per run
>repeat until you can afford (actually worthwhile thing that costs 3 million cr)
Man, sounds like some really exciting gameplay!

(alternatively you can either go and do the campaign which just gifts you a fully equipped ship for doing nothing, or download a list of extremely expensive abandoned ships strewn about the universe and go get them which just proves that the devs know how fucking boring their game is)

Does 2.6 include the vision stabilization tech they showed off a while back?

>>164845536
>Get ready for the dads arguing that you shouldn't have npc-crew or the VISION will be ruined
But you can already have NPCs pilot your ship solo.

>>164846365
yes

>>164845804
>not knowing how to play X3 this hard
MH_sinking_feeling.jpg

>>164846641
>no arguments

>>164846447
Yeah I know, you can take control of the fighter or the carrier as you wish.
But I don't get why dads didn't kill it, did the new npc AI made fighter more useful?

Post memes

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>>164849785

>>164849785
Elite Dangerous is a fun experience

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>>164849785

>>164845804

And ED is even more boring.

I thought it couldn't be possible, but they did it.

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>>164851480

>>164851848
That bottom limb, fully triggers me, it would send the bolt upwards on release, absolutely nonsensical.
They better redesign or game will be literally unplayable.

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>>164849785

aiming gimbals with a joystick is so shitty. Why don't they make the gimbal pips converge with the fixed pip

>>164851848

I haven't played SC, so I wouldn't know.

I'll buy it when they finally release the space trucking universe part.

>>164838991
>Are they really accurately simulating g-force?

No. The fact that you can sustain almost any lateral G is the reason we have the 2.6 flight model. In 2.5, the meta was to side strafe at cruise speed to be much harder to hit. There is still no penalty for changing direction laterally, you just can't get up to neck snapping speeds anymore.

>>164852868
right alt + j will do exactly that.

>>164852868
>Using gimbals with a stick

s t o p

>>164845536
Dads are going to have a heart attack because anyone with money is going to have direct advantages over them with this shit.

>Captcha failed again

Fuckin gook pushing his passes

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>>164849785

I really wish the only rank up opportunities in Quince weren't 400 LY smuggling missions.
>>164843034
>Is it worth to buy Elite: Dangerous
No and it never will.

How's this for a budget transport vessel? Guns and stuff are there strictly as a last resort, cargo racks in case I find something neat along the way. Kinda wanna see what happens if you find some ayys while carrying UAs.

https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/orca?code=1pftkFflpdksff50v0s0s01020300mnmmmh4a032t2f1y.Iw18SQ%3D%3D.Aw18SQ%3D%3D.

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>>164852016
They did redesign it in game, ages ago becasue everyone knew it was retarded

>need to rank up
>in quince
>400 LY outside bubble
>take 360 LY smuggling missions
>first jump
>"sorry commander, we need you to deliver to a different destination"
>it's the second quince starport
I think this is my amount of weekly luck done for.

>>164857034

cut the life support and sensors down to D rank. You don't need them to be A rank and it's costing you extra money and lowering your jump range

>>164857292
The jump range and cost differences are negligible, plus it's a luxury cruise ship, gotta have all the bells and whistles.

>>164857156
It's still pretty retarded. They should have just ripped off Star Wars.

>>164857786
well it makes more sense that a bowcaster which is both huge and silly in terms of operation.

>>164845536
Dads WANT npc crew. I was on the steam forum and asked in a thread what it was that npc multicrew would actually DO, as the ships are designed to be flown by a single person, and the answer i got was "sit in the seats on the bridge".

>>164857034
>>164857659
>budget vessel
>bells and whistles

Pick one.

>>164859990
It's budget because it's not a beluga.

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>>164859556
Have you seen the AI in this game? Give them what they want, with a smile.

I want to watch the forums burn once the realization sets in that flying solo in a cap ship with a NPC crew is possible, but not practical, in any way.

>>164861637
>I want to watch the forums burn once the realization sets in that flying solo in a cap ship with a NPC crew is possible, but not practical, in any way.


I don't see why not.

All the ships in E:D are controlled the same way, solo, so..

>>164861941
What's the justification for having a crew anyway? If ONE person can operate a Federal Corvette just fine, why would I pay other people to sit on the bridge? What would they even do?

>>164862605
"So my friends who don't have a corvette can play in one!" is the usual answer.
But since mission-sharing doesn't exist it's gonna be bounty hunting only.

>>164861941
>I don't see why not.
Not him, but the current AI for your hired co pilots is abysmal. Don't ever leave them piloting your mains ship in RES.

If not piloting what else will they do what YOU can't do yourself right now? Manage pips or plot routes? How are you going to order them without the whole thing getting more complicated than your solo experience of managing everything by yourself?

I just want a cute space waifu by my side making sassy comments.

>>164862792
Well that's retarded.
Didn't they say there'd be a problem with group missions?

>>164862930
They circled around mission sharing since wings were first implemented. They are just too dumb to implement them.

>>164862927
>I just want a cute space waifu by my side making sassy comments.
>Wanting a fleshbag
>Not wanting a virtual waifu ship computer
>Not waifuing your ship
Pleb

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>>164862792
>>164862930
>>164863030
Don't you understand, sharing a mission with a payout would ruin the VISION because it's completely unrealistic that one Commander could pick up a mission and then just share it with other people while in progress and then the now multiple people who completed it are like "Yo, pay us" now to the guy who only agreed to contract one Commander. It would be totally unfair to the guy posting the mission. You're supposed to complete the mission as a group and then split the agreed upon reward however you all decide. Now I understand that this would seem less profitable than just doing the mission alone or having everyone do the mission themselves in their own ships, but it serves the VISION and your real profit from this is immersion and the deeper multi-crew gameplay of having several people on board the same piece of cheese in a 1:1 accurate milkyway galaxy with milions of copy paste stars, hundreds of millions of empty planets, repetitive gameplay in which anything fun or profitable is swiftly removed and an ayylmao cutscene

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>>164863972
Is this from the Frontier forums?

>>164864152
No I just made it up, because E:D sucks balls, and its only redeeming quality is as a containment game to keep the dads from ruining Star Citizen.

>>164864479
I'm really worried about Star Citizen too. Will it be as grindy as ED? Will it have the same empty void? Will it have "totally not supercruise"? Will it have a bajillion samey progenned missions?
I haven't followed development.

>>164864479
I doubt dad can ruin Star Citizen, Chris is way too hands-on with every aspect of development and has his own ideas. I honestly don't think he gives a flying fuck about dads.

>>164864628
Nothing can be as grindy as E:D.

>Will it have "totally not supercruise"?

QD is point-to-point and doesn't take too long.

>Will it have a bajillion samey progenned missions?

Obviously, but hopefully with more difference and interest between them

>>164865008
Honestly I'd be okay with a few dozen handcrafted missions (think the way WoW started doing quests from Cataclysm onwards) which pay a good amount per play session, and don't require you to stack or grind forever.
I want missions I can totally focus on, which can't be stacked and actually take my attention.

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>>164863786
>Not downloading your ship's computer into a robot body built to resemble hatsune miku so she can sit next to you and nag you to be careful of her paintwork when you bump into the mail slot

>>164865371
I'm still mad about ME3.

>>164864628
>Grindy as ED
No. There will be grind but nothing like that.
>Eppty Void
It already has huge empty void with a single planet and four moons, you can point your nose in any direction and QD off, when you drop out of QD the only things you will be able to see with your eyes is the planet Crusader and the star Stanton, once the entire stanton system is added it will be big enough to blind jump and see nothing but a dim star 10 to 70 million KM away depending on what system you're in.

>>164864628
It'll have a mix of genned and handcrafted missions, with a heavy emphasis on developers taking generated stuff and customizing it a to make it less uniform. One of the perks of having a smaller(~100 star systems, ~400 planets ~1000 moons and a shitload of POIs) is that everything can actually get some direct human attention as its being made. Most places will have something to do besides mine it for minerals most places will have some level of inhabitation, and anywhere uninhabited is going to eventually be a target for player colonization.

>>164864705
They are trying, but yeah I have some faith that chris knows what they want and knows it will ruin the "game" part of star citizen. Also I have faith in chris's certifiable and visible autism regarding stuff like immersion and rule of cool. "Realism" is less of a rule and more of a guideline. The real rule is "Fidelity" in the sense of making it look good and giving it a slightly more practical and probable "Star Wars" feel.

SC is Semi-Realistic Space Opera, but not Hard Sci-Fi or actual Space Opera.

>>164865830
>SC is Semi-Realistic Space Opera, but not Hard Sci-Fi or actual Space Opera.

It's more like Starship Troopers than anything else

>>164866294
Starship Troopers takes a pretty hardcore approach to time dilation while travelling faster than light though.

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>>164866294
>>164866663
Kinda but also kinda not, Starship Troopers had a lot of spacemagic type stuff in it and also some metaphysical bits.

Got some cash, and a fully upgraded Sidewinder. Looking to sell for a new ship. Thoughts?

Heard Cobra is good.

>>164839804
oh my fuck that's pretty.

Is Daymar already live?

>>164837552
the only way to play E:D
is not to play at all

>>164868451
Eagle's king until you can get a vulture. A rate it, get a shield cell battery and pew things in low intensity combat zones or resource extraction zones. Around 20 mils you can A rate a vulture as an upgrade.

>>164867589
H I T C H I N G

delete this webm and make it again

>>164868451
Buy an adder. Best ship in the game.

So uh...I locked this guys sabre up in PU with my tali and as soon as i launched a missile my ship disappeared and i was greeted with a view of cat engines getting shoved together while 8 people in sitting positions were clumped together. Then some voice lines ive never heard started playing. Was this the fidelity trying to reach out and speak to me?

>>164869123
Eagle is like 50k right? How much is a stock Vulture?

>>164870421
How much? And what are the perks?

>>164869123
>Vulture

Some anons are claiming the vulture is shit now thanks to engineers.

Haven't logged into SC since 2.1, is the control configuration still ass? Does CR still think that joystick axis editing needs to be don in a config file? Are we allowed to have frames yet?

>>164871170
For pvp, sure. You want a FDL with shield boosters engineered out the ass.
But for pve it's fine. Grinding engineers is a pain anyway.
>>164871057
Around 5 mil. Put 2x large multicannons on it and have fun.
The a rated eagle comes up to around 2 mil fully fitted.

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how am I supposed to know when this gun is overcharged

>>164871618
Set amount of time after the little FX around the barrel?

>>164871545
>Shield boosters out the ass

Christ. Frontier may as well drop online, they're never going to get that shit balanced.

>>164871618
I recall reading that there is no way to know right now.

>>164871740
actually that effect means you held it too long; it's venting and you can't fire and have to charge again.

>>164871752
They are actually trying to, new beta has a "very experimental" change to shield boosters which makes any more than 2 engineered ones useless, and they are increasing module and hull durability.

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>grenades are fine, git gud

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>>164871057
>How much?
90,000
>And what are the perks?
Does everything. Costs nothing. Maximum comfy. Space transit van.

>>164872291
What was this webm meant to show?

That you got punished for completely ignoring an enemy to your left that had an extremely obvious marker on their head?

wowee

>>164872291
It's only one autist that things grenades are fine.

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>>164872486
desu I didn't even notice him, focusing on the other guy

>>164872803
..and what was the point of THIS one?

If you're going to post webms at least have something interesting or unusual happen, christ

>>164872884
have you never heard the term hail mary?

>>164872996
a "last ditch" effort?

Against an enemy that you couldn't see, wasn't shooting at you, and you're not injured at all?

do you have brain damage?

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>>164872884
are you gonna be that guy that whines about any /scg/ content posted until everyone leaves but the whiners? we've had enough of your shit, fuck off.
>>164873143
a hail mary generally refers to a completely hopeless toss in basketball, a 'fuck it might as well try the clock's about to run out'. I think we know who the retard is here anon.

>>164874047
This is worth posting.

The rest of them aren't.

What's the best advice you can give to a beginner in /edg/?

>>164876116
Refund.

>>164876403
It was a gift

>>164876787
Okay. Well it's a really boring game most of us play only because of sunken cost fallacy.
I'd suggest not starting it.

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an interesting thing happened, I was chilling at the starfarer wrecks with some other folks, and when I wandered back into my caterpillar, the gravity was off. the ship wasn't dead or anything, but I could float anywhere and slip through a lot of the walls, but the doors still opened for me and I could still sit down and fly it.

>>164877832
This isn't very interesting to /scg/, why not report the bug to the devs instead?

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>>164878657
I disagree with you. floating through a ship feels way different, and completely cinematic compared to walking it. this shit was like a scene out of Space Odyssey for me.

>>164825952
Yes, and they're mostly handing out donation missions right now which would help them gain the influence needed to start a civil war.

See
elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Influence
under the civil war section.

Jet Bridge is the major faction, so ignore what it says about two minor factions going to war.

planet landings yet?

>>164882036
Not quite

>>164839960

Yes to both questions.

can we kidnap retarded life-forms and beat them and molest them while saying negative things about their matriarch and their sub-species?

>>164883469
Subtle.

>>164876116
>>164876787
Play in a wing with friends, even if they're new also. Having a 2nd ship in combat easily quadruples your effectiveness, no matter what the ship is.

Is REC broken?

I just rented a pair of Talon Seeker IXs for 7k REC, when i only had 2.8k REC.

>>164883469
I bet those aliens wouldn't do anything back either :^)

>>164884230
>mfw you realize you spent real money on it

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Anyone else noticed the S4/S5 guns seem to phase through people rather than ever actually landing hits?

The only thing I can ever seem to hit anyone with is the Gatling, and even then it must be half or less actually register because the damage is fucking pitiful

I can't find any info on what commodities I should stock for transport missions.
Is there a semi-fixed list of stuff I should always stock or am I fucked if I take a long-range mission without being able to see the future?

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Be saved. It is not your time yet.

aaahhhhhhhhhh KWOOOOOOOSCH
aaaaahhhhhhh KWOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
wowowowowowow ptoooooo BOOOOOM

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>>164890083

Sounds like me in the loo.

>>164873143

You obviously dont know what a hail mary is. Maybe you should step outside and get off the Chins for awhile. You're the retard here, matey mate.

>>164890719
He is probably from somewhere that doesn't have apehoop

>>164890719
>>>/sp/

>>164890719
"Hail Mary" is often used in countries that don't idolize tall black people as a move that has a low chance of working but is your last choice.

Dear diary. I'm up to Count. Wish I had a dirty drive.

>>164891564
>"Hail Mary" is often used in countries that
Please name someone that uses that except Catholics.

Someone who doesn't enjoy basketball.

>>164853937
wrong

>>164892528
He just said
countries that don't idolize tall black people

>E:Ds first ever alien contact gets its mood ruined by retarded enemy ai behavior

cannot fabricate

>>164893405
If it's a sports term used by basketball Americans, how is it going to be any more popular outside of America where they have few basketball Americans?

That's like saying /scg/ memes are popular outside /scg/.

>>164893901
>being illiterate

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>>164893956
Only America idolizes basketball Americans. Countries that don't idolize them don't use the term "Hail Mary" except in a religious context.

>>164894114
>Countries that don't idolize them don't use the term "Hail Mary" except in a religious context.

I've lived in two that do.

>>164893665
I really wonder what FD were thinking when that video popped up, if they were embarrassed or not. Then again, people are sucking their dicks for it.

>>164894208
Convenient that you don't name them. If you like just go back and delete all the posts that embarrass you, you don't have to continue the charade.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the lord is with thee, blessed art though among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary mother of god, pray for us sinners now, and at the our of our death, amen.

It's a fucking call for divine intervention irregardless of activity, american's adopted it as a sporting term because it is a literal- NO CHANCE OF WINNING, TRY SOMETHING THAT HAS NO RATIONAL CHANCE OF WINNING (PRAY), OH SHIT WE WON.

Fucking monkeys.

>>164894623

I'm only a very occasional player, but I felt kinda sad that it was ruined like that. Then it was funny.

Perhaps this'll make them reconsider ai following you everywhere?

>people are sucking their dicks for it

wait nvm

>>164894745
UK and Aus, but at this point you're just shitposting

>>164894114
>Countries that don't idolize them don't use the term "Hail Mary" except in a religious context.

Seriously no, it has spread as that other Anon said as a "last ditch effort" with no relation to basketball.
Blame Hollywood if you don't like that.

People actually watch basketball ?

>>164894812
I live in the UK and I've never heard anyone use basketball American terminology. No one except Catholics have said "Hail Mary".

What kind of situation are you putting yourself in where you're hanging around people who say "Hail Mary" outside of a sporting context?

>>164894993
God damn you're fucking stupid.

Its not "basketball american terminology"

Now fuck off, kid.

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>arguing over what people interpret a phrase as
>"No you don't interpret that phrase as that stop saying you do"

>>164894773
>Sad

I'm no longer sad about their fuckups. I can only hope that their fuckups bite them in the ass enough that they start fixing their game.

>>164895230
Get out, weeb.
This is a Christian image board for honest god faring scum.

Kid goes to 4chan. Uses basketball phrases outside of America, looks retarded! Many such posts! Sad!

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>Its not even a Basketball term anyway

what a RUSE CRUISE

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hello thread

>>164895694
see
>>164895230

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2.6.1 when?

>>164897672
Soon, fellow Citizen.

>>164897672
2 weeks

But who cares, really

Game isn't going to be playable until deep into 3.0, and even then its debatable

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Heya, I was thinking of picking up Elite: Dangerous as I think it'll be something enjoyable to fill out my free time. However, I was curious what people use to play it. Joysticks, Controllers, M+KB, which one is recommended? And if it's Joysticks, which model/setup is preferable?

Thanks in advance!

>>164898402
>I think it'll be something enjoyable to fill out my free time

ahahahahhaa

>>164898402
If you're absolutely going to get ED, mouse and keyboard. No reason to use anything else

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>>164898402
>ED
>enjoyable

also, MKB master race. Only dads use HOTAS and gamepad

>>164898402
>ED
>enjoyable
Pushing nails into your rectum is more enjoyable than ED.

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>>164898981
>>164898953
Okay, thank you!

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>>164898402
Heya, I was thinking of hitting myself in the face with a shovel as I think it'll be something enjoyable to make room for my rutabagas. However, I was curious what people use to plant with. Round point, square point, drain spade, clean out shovel, which one is recommended? And if it's round point what handle/material is preferable?

Thanks in advance!

The best definition of a dads I saw in those thread,

>>164859556 >>164863972
It's not so much dads wanting NPC (piratedad don't want them) than common sense kicking in for FDev, they know E:D will never have enough players available to fill seat (legs when?) anytime, the game is so slow and grindy that it would be a downgrade, only one player would be experiencing fu-VISION while the other would be wasting time not working on his ship.
Too soon to talk for SC (forever) but as long as CR is at the helm the game is made like a Freelancer free-roaming game (except FPS) with added seat & minigame to keep your friends busy until they help you do solo quests (it's player centric).
Both game will be stuck with npc-crew by necessity (and no one care)

>>164898402
>Joysticks, Controllers, M+KB, which one is recommended? And if it's Joysticks, which model/setup is preferable?
Depend of who you ask, on the SC forum some guys would like to kill what they call the "arcade gameplay" of MKB so they stop sucking with joystick.
For ED the double stick setup seem to work well enough

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>>164901464
>forgot pict

Please stop using the word "dad" as an insult. I've seen too many people use too many retarded definitions to fit their own limited understanding of gaming, and often are polar opposites.

>dads want grind!
>dads hate grind!

Until one of you comes up with a definition that everyone can agree on just stop cringeposting.

>>164901826
I've never seen anyone say that dads hate grind.
I've never seen a dad hate on the grind.

>>164901826
>dads hate grind

Literally nobody says this save for that one faggot that constantly false flags. Dads are made up up the following

>Hate PVP
>Love grind
>Love tedium and bullshit

That's fucking it.

>>164901953
I get called a dad for wanting no grind. The original term in here was used to describe the people in E:D who voted against convenient ship transfers, i.e. they wanted it to take longer and be tedious.

>>164902007
People use the term against different people for different reasons, and they have different meanings. It's all cringeposting to me.

Sage because cringepost.

>>164902176
Dunno what you are on about, here I've always seen it used and used it like >>164902007 says.

>>164902176
>People use the term against different people for different reasons

It's pretty much understood by this point who the dads are and what stupid shit they think is good game design. They actively dislike QOL features, they enjoy space trucking for hours a day, and they think ED being a second job is A-okay.

You probably got called a dad by our resident false-flagger. He called me one for being furious regarding ship transfers turning useless.

>>164902818
>they think ED being a second job is A-okay
Probably why I can't stand these threads most of the time, because there are many people who seem to think Star Citizen should be a second job.

>>164901464
>obsessing over the definition of something that literally means "people who play a game play, who I don't like"

>>164903095
>because there are many people who seem to think Star Citizen should be a second job.

Never seen that

>meta-dad-posting

dead game

>>164904126
"dad" is a meta term in itself

so its just dad posting achktually

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So 3.O and Squirrel 42 this year?

>>164803334
Mustang is the equivalent of a micro penis

>>164904631
Dog please, you can't fly a ship

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>>164903568
Saw it, there's the goon who want it to be Eve Online (which is a second job)
there's that ancap who want SC to have a real economy so his org can take control of trades
there's also multiple powertrip autist who want SC to let them kill players "for real" with no respawn or npc wall to stop them

and they are no better than the WoW kids who don't consider it a MMO if you don't grind forever to get endgame battleship

As long as SC isn't out you'll have armchair designer who believe they can make SC into something as serious business than the real world

>>164905403
>there's the goon who want it to be Eve Online (which is a second job)

vague

>here's that ancap who want SC to have a real economy so his org can take control of trades

confirmed to be in by Chris, so stop whining

>there's also multiple powertrip autist who want SC to let them kill players "for real" with no respawn or npc wall to stop them

what the fuck are you talking about

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>>164803334
The Mustang is slated for a rework though, right? I remember there was a reddit post a few days ago asking for Mustang feedback. If they buffed the guns' size and made them all boresighted or made all S1 hardpoints gimbaled the ship might be alright.

>>164872510
>codbabies can't handle the pineapples.

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>>164905908
>The autist responds!

It's ironic that you're calling me a COD baby, since you seem to love garbage game design.

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Why do dads have such a vehement hatred of PvP? Low test causing an aversion to competitive play?

Well, it happened. After 2 days of farming the mission board is lagging behind me. So long fast empire ranks.

>>164906365
They're bad, and they want slow-paced gameplay to match their life.

MUH PVP SLIDER

>>>/v/363137725
>what ED could have been
Just. Fuck my dreams up.

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>mfw network culling is confirmed to be in 2.6.1
>mfw watching Crusader framerate go from 20-25 to 60-70

>>164907656
Source

>>164907656
What is network culling and why is it causing Crusader frames to suck?

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>>164907778

>>164907812
Its not, its the absence of it.

Right now in Crusader it sends you information of everyone on the server, not just the people you could possibly see.

>>164907559
Only 30,000 more dollars to go

Is most network optimization due for 2.6.1 or are we going to see most optimization at the drop of 3.0?

>>164908052
Wish he made more publicity.
There's a base of trust in his work at least.

>>164908206
Some included in both.

Network culling is a big one, 3.0 should make it more efficient.

>>164908249
Isn't he a Slav? I'm assuming he doesn't want publicity either because he doesn't want to gain unwanted attention in whatever Russian town he lives in, or because he doesn't want to compromise the quality of the program through some kickstarter.

>>164908437
He's russian, yeah. And I think works as an astronomer? Not sure.

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>>164908334
Sweet. Maybe we will see some idris action soon after 3.0, we know it's nearly done as-is.

Any news on 17 Draconis?

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>>164905340

Fuck off! I'm great at it!

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And they said I was only buying a digital ship.
Suck it up fags.

Does anyone have the 'what ship to buy' chart tier list thing for elite dangerous?

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>>164916134

I have many things anon

>>164916494
thanks a ton anon

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What am I 'posed to do until 3.0?

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>>164917045
wait for 2.6.1 and watch better television

>>164916626

note that the beluga is missing from the chart

though if you're thinking about buying the beluga you don't need the chart anymore

>>164918083
Oh thanks, I didn't know that was in the game, it's been quite some time since I've played

Last time I remember playing was when everyone was going crazy with Sothis smuggling.

Is it just me or are tali turrets literally broken, its like they fire way off to the side regardless where i aim it.

>>164885747
It was in the REC store.

>>164908045
>all this networking tweaking
why? I thought it was all going out the window in 3.0 anyway?

>>164920979
Preparations maybe?

>>164920979
All that is prep/needed for 3.0

Whats a good load out for Pirate swarm? Currently using a Sabre with 2x Panthers and 2x Scatters


I find Panthers are awesome for smaller craft but suck at killing bigger ships while I find the scatter cannons are great for larger ships but seem to only do damage around the cockpit area making them more difficult to use but still great.


Are there any ballistics that are good middle ground of powerful with a decent ROF.

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>>164917045

One possible thing I see some people do is play ED.

ED actually sucks out all of the fun you would expect from a game that it literally leaves you dried out and almost dead inside.

EVERYTHING is fun after you have played ED. It's like your body is malnurished on just unfun stuff.

Think of it, 1-1.5 years of ED playing and even if SC 3.0 just gives us a minor bug-fix, it will be super fun.

So in Elite, if you hire crew members, can you put them in a spare ship you own and have them act as a wing? Or are they only for multi-crew vessels atm?

If I bought into Star Citizen right now what could I do in game? I know they just added Star Marine so I could do TDM and shit like that but what else is there? Is there anything else in the universe or do you just wander aimlessly in a glorified tech demo?

>>164927323
Why don't you start it up and find out, faggot?

>>164927198
They are only for ship-launched fighters.

ED:H

I'm getting route plot failed 24/7 here. Literally everything that is more than like 3 or 4 jumps will not fucking work. What is wrong with this game?

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>>164930367
everything

>>164927906

Because I'm still not sure if I want to spend money on it.

>>164927198
>can you put them in a spare ship you own and have them act as a wing?

see, that would have been an interesting feature

but nooooo

>>164927323
There;s about 15 missions,three stations(2 working,one wrecked),an asteroid belt to explore,a city and hangar module aswell as dogfighthing arena mode(freefly,free-for-all,tdm,co-op)
check the youtube channel

>>164865830

so how will exploration work?

>>164934869
you spot the blinky lights

>>164869092

you mean:
E:D, a strange game. the only winning move is not to play.

>>164905497
>confirmed to be in by Chris, so stop whining
that guy wasn't satisfied by CR answer, calling it carebear economy because most of it is abstracted simulation and 90% will be npc. I did said it had ancap logic,

You tell me what is wrong with that,
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/13128-The-Star-Citizen-Economy

>>164935108
yeah that's it. Thanks anon.

I'm looking for a space autism simulator

I dropped 40 monies on Star Citizen like an idiot when it was first crowdfunding (Only one of two times I've ever crowdfunded. Thankfully Yooka-Laylee appears to be on track) so should I try to play with the pieces of an actual game that have come out? Or should I get one of the versions of Elite:Dangerous?

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Find a better combo.

>>164938397
Elite: Dangerous isn't the only other game on the planet, you know. Play the X series.

o7 cmdrs

>>164940974
o7

>>164940093
What is the Terrapin for?

Want a combo? In terms of overall firepower, a bunch of lined-up Aurora LNs are the most space efficient thing to put on a carrier. Any time you could put a Hornet on a big carrier vessel, you could instead put 3 Aurora LNs. Together they well outgun any other option.