Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

That feel you don't want to play ranked because you fear sucking ass and causing your team to lose.

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

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>>164968750

>>164969215
Stop ripping on poor people, master skins aren't that bad once you get to know them.

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>>164969419
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/

Alarak nerf when?

>>164971381
when you git gud

Reminder that I'm going to Marry Auriel

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In your opinion, who is the toughest character to learn?

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Vikings buffs when?

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>>164971620
Good luck with that anon!

>>164971803
Probably Vikings, Zeratul, Alarak, Kerrigan, Tracer and Rexxar.

No particular order, although Vikings is probably the most difficult.


>>164971381
>difficult
>bad in meta
>low win rate

?

>>164972950
>>164971468
Fuck I meant Artanis.

Reminder that Alarak can outsustain Thrall in lane.

>>164973421
not if thrall realises all of his ablities heal instead of just spamming CL on alarak

theyre a 50-50 kinda matchup

Reminder that most "heroes" in this game are irrelevant nobodies

>Hey what if we made the brawl just quick match.

I just want my 1000 gold you assholes.

>>164973705
Like Valla, Sonya, Xul, Johanna, yes?

>>164974650
>he doesnt bot 3 brawls a week for that 1k

>>164974935
I usually just skip them. Like that shitty Christmas brawl. I thought this one would be brawling a little more but it's just tomb of the spider queen.

>>164975028
its actually tomb of the spider king nazeebo

>>164975081
Not for me because every Naz I've gotten goes toad build including the resilience on toads at 13.

Whats the current single best hero right now for climbing the ranks?

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>Hop in after months
>Mexicans and Portugese everywhere
>Can't even talk in games without knowing Spanish

So much for this game ever making a comeback.

>>164975028
Christmas brawl was fun as fuck. I got an all-Kerrigan match too, real cool

>>164975996
the one you are best familiar with from these:
>diablo
>dehaka
>artanis
>malf
>rehg
>thrall
>ragnaros
>valla
>tychus

low and mid level hero league is about the player, not the hero

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GNOMES

WHEN

real gnomes chromie doesn't count

>>164976167
maybe if your autistic ass would change your server settings to your region you'd get some englando.

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>>164971620
I'm going to corrupt auriel

>>164976770
Wilfred Fizzlebang would be pretty fun. He could have some pretty sweet summon abilities. Maybe Jaraxus as an ult.

Is massive lag common in this game? I turned down all the graphics and sound quality and it worked fine but when I played a game of Towers of Doom the game shit the bed and I lagged into oblivion. My internet had nothing to do with it and I've played on Towers of Doom before

>>164973705
i swear this general makes me lose brain cells every time i enter it

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>>164976770
Never, hopefully. The real question is more Goblins when?

>>164978479
fel chromie kinda looks like a goblin

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>>164978358
Go to the Overwatch general. Now that is real hell
>>164978479
Gallywix would be cool too

>>164978479
I mean maybe we'll get Gallywix.

>>164976805
>Switch to Western US
>Mexicans

>Switch to Central US
>Brazilians because they want you to carry them

No win scenario.

>>164978358
what are you talking about, they are.
Heck, brightwing didnt even exist before Hots

>>164977353
>>164976770
I would love Wilfred as a gnome representative, but you know it'll be Geblin Mekkatorque and his boring genericness.

I also would like Thermaplugg, because an evil gnome would add some variety.

>>164978479
I literally can't name a single female goblin. But I want to hear that awful voice.

"SSSTOP DISSSTRACTING ME!"

>>164979348
sure there are a few examples but to say "most" is a total overstatement

>>164979076
>NA
>carry
pick one

>>164979076
>playing on weekends
only got yourself to blame

>it's another "let's fight and try to fight them for no reason"

Why people do this?

>>164979462
>I literally can't name a single female goblin. But I want to hear that awful voice.

I swear there was some rumor going around back in beta that they were gonna put Sappers in as female goblins, if only it were true

>>164978956
>>164978973
do you think Gallywix would be his own hero, or would they use his spider tank as some sort of shredder expy?

>>164980293
who cares bro the game is over

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feels good

>>164981257
Aw, that's sweet.

>>164978479
God I hope they pull a Lunara and give us like an original Goblin Girl.

I mean there are tons of Goblin archetypes they could use for heroes, Shredders, Ogre-Riding Alchemists, Zeppelins, Sappers, give us SOMETHING here.

Should I buy Artanis to jump on the bandwagon?
Also how to Artanis?

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guess what happened ?
>look at who's alive and the minimap
>read messages

>>164982923
>insight
>ally of life

kek

>>164982923
Oh yeah it's not replay you can't see who's dead and alive.

Anyway. Zagara was in a 2v1 bot lane, and diablo went bot to pay / help zagara a little bit since we were doing five top
Zagara went afk all the game and went into the nydus ranting all the game how diablo lost the game because he didn't let her solo push her lane while being 1v2. Diablo just played normally, went to do camps with thrall etc. but yeah he just stayed afk all the game.
And nothing will ever happen to this kind of people, they'll just keep playing and trolling people.

>>164983229
get your whole team to report him for non participation.
getting a dozen votes in a short time frame will get you flagged.
blizzard stopped being as lenient as before a few months ago when all that hate speech stuff went through media and politics.

>>164982998
>pick insight
>never runs out of mana during fights
>lower cd so you heal more often
What's wrong with insight ?

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>>164978479
>Less than a quarter of the cast are women

Keep dreaming guys. There will never be non-Human/non-Elf women in this game.

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>>164983763
>Zagara
>Chromie

>>164983763
>Lunara

>>164983763
>Diablo

warcraft assassin

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>>164985187

>>164985187
How dare you

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>>164978479
goblinfu hero when

heroes i want

Fenix or maybe talandar
mephisto
baal
a nathrezim
archimonde/jaeden
maar hybrid
stukov
karax so we have a protoss specialist

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>>164968750

>>164981257
Holy shit, you can choose to not accept whispers from people who aren't on their friends list? Immediately turning this on.


I'll miss the rare shit talking, I just don't want people wanting to be friends with me just because I did good in a single game.

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>>164989410
>no obligation to communicate in draft
>no obligation to communicate in game
>can mute allied chat
>can mute all incoming whispers
>we can't have all chat because it'd be too toxic

>>164989694
When the fuck are we just going to evolve into telepathy?

... So I can learn to shift my brain power around to block telekinetic messages from people who want to be my friend as well?

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>>164989108
junkrat in hots when

>>164990648
too gay even for hots

>>164989915
I just want to telepathically stroke my cock's ego when he's feeling moody, damn.

Is Alarak good?

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when you need to heal and your bronze 5. There is only one option. Is she broken? She feels broken

>>164988538
>starshit
>diablow

LOL FAT CHANCE

>>164993998
no

>>164993998

Very difficult. Only seems good against vulnerable/squish heroes.

He isn't really a tank shredder.

>>164993998
yes but only if you're a good player/good at playing him
in the hands of a retard he's worthless

>>164994690
She can't do shit if you nuke her

>>164995134
>>164995328
Who would you say is harder? Kerrigan or Alarak? I feel like Kerrigan mostly because her ults are shitty, whereas both of Alarak's have use.

>>164996062
Alarak, definitely.

>>164994690
>i <3 austria
what did she mean by this

>>164994690
focus morales guys!!!

>>164994690
I dont think a lot of people realize that stunning her interrupts her beam

>>164983763
That artist spent 99% of his time studying sexual features of the body and 1% of his time on limbs.

>>164988538
You have great taste, i want those too, plus the other evils from diablo

>>164983763
Murky

>>164998275
women dont need limbs to function

>>164979076
What, brazilians play on the brazilian server

>>164998275
only gays care about limbs

>>164979076
>Switch to EU
>Ruki veer cyka blyat

>>164999004
>>164998686
I'm not complaining I'm just saying her arms look right fucked

>>164999231
the only parts of her getting fucked are drawn right. stop your autismo

>>164999390
she isn't getting fucked at all in that drawing

>>164999592
invisible dicks, anon

>>164983763
Zarya

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>>164972950

>kerrigan
>zeratul
>tracer

>tough

>>165001341
diving with blink and using recall is too hard for the average gold player in this sub

You know who a good literally who to add would be? Akama. What does he even do?

>>165001341
Kerrigan is pretty tough, but mostly only because she's fucking terrible

>>165001602
Makes you wait fucking forever to open that fucking door, holy shit I hate him with a passion

>>165001797
>Passive: The game starts 2 minutes later. All walls have 4x the health.

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>game crashes
>make everyone wait forever
>every now and then someone on the other side loses their patience and we get a 5 v 4 match

>>165001602
>What does he even do?
Q: be shit at everything
W: whine about it
E: blame your problems on Illidan
R1: betray your allies for no reason
R2: sit around doing nothing for 8 years

>>165001341
>playing kerrigan, zeratul and tracer to their full potential against competent players isn't difficult

Just speaking from personal experience. I didn't bump into a worthwhile Zera, Kerri or Tracer until Masters.

Difficult relative to the rest of the roster, anyways.

Which are the most annoying heroes to go up against?

>>165003115
Medivh.

>>165003115
Samuro

>>165003115
>>165003198

>>165003115
a good Medivh on a good team

>>165003115
>Medivh
>Samuro
>Tracer
>Chromie if you're tired, bad and/or squishy
>Ragnaros if you're trying to split-push your way out of the depths
>Old Murky
>Old Zagara
>Chen
>Abathur Toxic Nests
>Tracer

>>165003521
>>Abathur Toxic Nests
Atleast they are useless

>>165003115
are we going to have this exact same post with the exact same replies every thread

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>>165004018

Are we?

>>165003904
still fucking obnoxious when there's somehow one in every bush on the map, especially if you're playing a character without a spammable skillshot

>>165003904
>playing hero that's squish af
>can't check bushes because no aoe
>neat i'll just avoid them
>jk global teemo shroom
>get revealed, slowed by 90% and lose a chunk of my health
>somebody rotates over and puts me stupid ass down

abathur is cancer I'm glad he's shit desu

>price reduction to 2,000 when

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>>165003521
>>Ragnaros if you're trying to split-push your way out of the depths
>tfw AI Rag singlehandedly drags out a vs AI game for 30+ minutes

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>>165003115

>>165004106
that's Thaddeus though

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>Play chen
>Have no idea what to get lvl 4 and 7

>>165005652
there is only one choice for 7
BREW
MASTER
BALANCE

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>tfw you're the scapegoat for your team's loss and everyone talks shit about you in the post-game screen
>can't say anything to defend yourself or they'll just think you're mad

>"we would've won that if it weren't for anon"
>"yeah anon didn't really do anything'
>"uninstall anon, you're really bad"

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>>165005713
I'm gonna sound a complete idiot here. I always thought the one that gives instant shields was better. I'm a shitter so my opinion means nothing

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>>165005787
>lmao u suck retards

>>165005818
BMB is really, really good.

I think I'm turning around on Guillotine, it isn't as bad as I thought, however I do think it falls a bit too slow still.

Why are Starcraps and Diablotards all losing their shit over Valeera?

>>165006298
My literal who>Your literal who

>>165006423
Valeera isn't a literal who though shes a good friend of Varian and she sucked Rehgars orc cock one time.

>>165006423
>>165006298
its not valeerabut 4 warcraft heroes in a row during diablo anyversary

>>165005652
Keg toss if you're going W build, ring of fire or deadly kick otherwise.

>>165005818
Both are good, but I personally vastly prefer BB.

>>165006563
>comic lore

She was a literal who till HS.

>>165005787
Were they right, though? Might as well try to take something away from that game.

>>165006298
Because the next Hero isn't from "their" game/universe.

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>>165005787
>ask if the team is done wasting time when we are losing all team fights and objectives and are 3 levels behind
>suddenly everything that ever went wrong in the game is my fault
>point out all the obvious mistakes they have done
>they get mad and ask everyone to report me
>ask what they are reporting me for
>silence

>>165006612
Not only just that, but an assassin! At least make a Warcraft warrior/support/specialist

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I'm leveling up an account with a friend who is new to the game but pretty good with auriel, anyone want to join? (EU)
Already lvl 25 at around 3K5 mmr in qm if anyone want to come, drop your ID

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Is there any reason ever to take the Banshees instead of Hyperion on Reynad?

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>tfw the climb begins

OFFICIAL WARRIOR TIER LIST

>husbando tier
Anub'arak
Tyrael

>waifu tier
Sonya

>top tier
Cho
Arthas
Rexxar
Dehaka

>average tier
Zarya
Diablo
Leoric
Muradin
E.T.C.
Chen

>kill yourself tier
Johanna
Artanis
Stitches
Varian

>>165008592

Is this a tier list of dick length or viability?

>>165008550
>place d3 500p
>lose will to queue

>>165008507
nope

>>165008507

Chasing stealthies

Abusing Medic

Vision

That's about it

>>165008680
>dick length
If you turn it upside down save for Sonya, maybe.

>>165008964

I dunno anon, Varian's microdick does rank below Artanis and Stitches complete lack of genitals as well as Johanna's clit length.

Seems legit.

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>>165008592
>no Gall
anon?
also leoric should be higher tier
you also forgot about zul'jin

>>165009380
>Warrior tier list

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>>165009489
oh no

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Vikings rework when?

>>164998874
Is there anything redeeming about Brazilians other than their BJJ??

>>165007796
>New, good with auriel
Yes I highly doubt that. She's the hardest healer in the game, all her shit is skill shots l, maximizing hope by crowning diff targets and timing ULT properly.

>>165011976
You don't know what a hard game is you shitter

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>>165011976
>Yes I highly doubt that
Post your auriel stats you fucking bitch or even better come see for yourself if you're EU

>>165011976
The only really hard thing about Auriel is maximizing hope efficiency and proper positioning to land stun whips without getting dicked.

Zul'jin is literally the most balanced hero they've ever released.

>>164971803
illusion master samuro, kerrigan, zeratul, li-ming

>>165014028
He's low tier as fuck.

>>164971803
Hardest characters to master with the highest skill floors
Chromie, Li-Ming
Power gap
Zeratul Nova
Power gap
The rest

Why does HOTS Rexxar look like he has a skinned bat on his head rather than a wolf pelt?

>>165015397
He's secretly batman, don't tell anyone

>>165015103
alarak should be up there

>>165015397
An anon here said once that his wolf companion got disintegrated by a warlock in a book, so now he wears its hide to remember it.
Even though it doesnt look like that in any other depiction of him...

LOL GG these faggots saying this game is alive?

im playing brawl right now and guess how many players there are?

2. me and guy on enemy team. the rest are all bots.

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>>165015758
>other depiction of him

>>165015864
lmao really that's priceless

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>>165015864
>>165015926
i feed during the brawls so im glad i have 4 bots on team i can just make them follow me and we all feed, i just hope the enemy guy is not dumb

>>165014802
50% winrate. He's not meta, but he's completely playable and a few QoL tweaks will solve all of his problems.

This is what every hero should shoot for.

>urge to tyrael
>want to reinstall hots afrer uninstalling it last year

>>165016126
They started doing this shit in this patch, so if you don't play brawl in the first days the chance of it happening is higher. Stupid feature desu, they should remove it

>>165016563
still wanna reinstall when you get SHIT LIKE THIS? >>165016126
and you'd expect the matchmaker to work at least in a 1v1 game, but nope. still got matched vs a dumb low rank monkey on my diamond account.

>>165009616
Did you think ot wad a husbando tier list lmao

>>165016126
Are you guys like euroshits or something?

20 second queue and I got a full team for the brawl

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>still no word on Dr. Boom

>>165016126
can you upvote my peddit post?

r/heroesofthestorm/comments/5mves3/2_players_8_bots_brawl_of_the_week/?st=ixpjmpsn&sh=60100158

>>165007627
This is mostly it for me. While I do want Megnsk just tos ee how they'll pull it off, I'm more annoyed that we're getting a 3rd assassin in a row, more depending on whether you count Varian or not.

At least LoL tends to rotate their champ releases so you can estimate about how long until another x type of champ is coming.

>>165017539
My estimated queues were 48 seconds and played 3 games with full human player teams

This was on EU a couple of days ago

Where can I see the tier list of this game?

>>165020735
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hots+tier+list

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>>165020735

Tier lists will vary based on skill level.

Grubby's list is the most accurate in my opinion. Zul'jin not listed because he's new enough to still be subject to surprise balance changes, but current he's viable.

http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist

is this a dead game? be honest.

>>165021119

No. It's not dead, but it's not League levels of saturation either.

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Will Valeera be released on her own Like Zul’Jin? Or will it be a two heroes announcement like most of the time?

>>164968454
Does this game track stats like w/l in an easy to access location?

Can you view others stats via 3rd party program or otherwise?

>>165022303
I sure fucking hope not.

>>165022491
Hotslogs after uploading your replays.

They occasionally mention an interest in adding more stats in-game, but they aren't particularly quick about such things.

>>165022303
>they haven't even announced Valeera and already keen for next teaser

>>165021119
Dead enough they had to add bots to brawl

>>165023106
I actually haven't encountered that yet. It might be only for certain MMRs.

>>165023106
I have no idea why they did that in the first place. I always got like 2-3 minute queues max for brawls, even in the middle of the week.

>>165023398

People want to bitch about having to wait 16 minutes for a queue when there's 2 hours left in the week's brawl, so Blizzard fixes the problem for those shitstains and here we are complaining that the solution isn't good enough.

Can't have it all.

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Who is the cutest /hotsg/?

Are there any guides for what type of teams, enemy or ally, work for specific heroes?
For example if I want to play Chromie, what should my team look like and any enemy heroes that would make Chromie a bad pick

>>165021096
>tfw all the heroes you like to play are in tier 2

>>165024217

That's not a bad thing.

Tier 2 is playable but they have clear and definitive counters. If you get counterpicked, it's going to be a tough game for you (probably, not always).

>>165024217
Eh most of the tier 2 are still good if you know how to play them they just have known couterplays.
Like I doubt anyone would say naz and Az are bad, just they take fineness and people can minimize your impact.

How do you talent Li-Ming these days? Haven't played her for like half a year

>>165024526

The same way you talent every hero in the game?

If you pick one talent build every game you won't get far.

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>>165023896
Auriel!

>>165021096
>listening to that shitter
>fal in tier s
>medivh in tier 1
>alarak and mura in tier 2, not 1
>abathur and illidan in t2 not 3
>arthas, anub, gm and tyrande t3
>sonya t3 when its the same shitty niche pick for jungling like samuro and illidan but beats those two on bhb and rexxar on top
Grubby is a massive shitter and whenever I watch him I get mad that shitters everywhere think he's good.

>>165024740
Well what would be some situations where I would pick differently and what would I pick?

>>165025149

Heavily enemy comp, map, and skill level dependent.

Look for guides on Ming or watch high level players play her. Builds will do you fine in QM for a little bit, but if you really want to grow as a hero you need to understand what your hero does, what your abilities can do, and how each individual talent will benefit your team in any given game.

>>165025090

Oh sorry, I forgot we were talking to Anonymous Grandmaster #1 EU over here.

Grubby isn't a god, but the fucker can draft with the best.

>>165025432
>but the fucker can draft with the best.
rofl

>>165025638

epic post friend, got me good

>>165017840
We need him asap because I need to bomb some motherfuckers

I'm so fucking pissed about masters and diamonds that are ranked gold in TL in every match on the opposite team. Fuck you niggers, you ruined 2 promotion games to plat.

>>165025090

>Falstad will always be good so long as he has fly and gust
>Medivh is in tier 1 and not S solely because of the skill floor required to play him and having a team competent enough to play with him
>Alarak down a tier because he's basically worse Kerrigan
>Muradin not as good since Tychus is in the meta
>Abathur and Abathur require a team comp built for them to be good, but they are very good in that circumstance
>Arthas, Anub, Greymane, Tyrande are really super situational heroes because they specifically designed for very small niches
>sonya is shit because she's been left in balance for 11 months

Get over it you don't know fuck all about this game.

Also notice how the list does not say "bad" or "good". It says "not optimal". The situations where those t3 heroes can be great still exist and they can excel, but those chances are few and far between.

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>play the last two games before leaving for university
>first game I am tychus and get matched against a cho'gall
>second game I steal a boss and kill 4 people as nova
Goodbye hots I will be back

Is Auriel worth playing? Shes the only support i actually enjoy.

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>spell armor
>physical armor

What is this?

>>165028261
spells are abilities
physical are autoattack

>>165027726

Good in the right hands/comps

>>165028261
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20459872

>>165028261
Same thing as resistance and vulnerability, just renamed.

spell armor = %damage reduction for purple numbers
physical armor = %damage reduction for orange numbers
armor = %damage reduction for everything

%health damage is no longer affected by damage mitigation/amplification.

>>165029002
>%health damage is no longer affected by damage mitigation/amplification.
It was? What the fuck Blizzard

>>165029002
I didn't know the last one
Does this mean cho'gall is even shittier now?

>>165031434
Did Cho'gall even get physical armor in the first place? Seems like a marginal loss in either case

>play some fun single player games
>boot up hots after a while
>they made the forced 50 worse on qm
what the fuck, it's not even fun. either we're completely steamrolling the enemy team or my team doesn't know how to teamfight or position themselves for the objectives. is hero league any better? diamond 3 in hl, so it's not mmr hell.

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Literally perfect

How long do you fags wait for a HL game? Just started, i'm waiting 10-15 minutes. This is stupid and not worth it

>>165032563
Placement games tend to take a while longer ffor some reason.

I rarely ever get queues like that and I'm in masters.

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>>165032563

Yep, placements can be 10-15. It'll get quicker after you finish the ten matches. Hopefully.

>>165033009
>>165032902
Finally get a game and somebody disconnects. Now I wait another 10-15 minutes? What a great game!

reaper fucking when

>>165033064
Yep.

Enjoy your stay, and the reconnect system. :^) I'm sure we'll take off as a game eventually.

>>165033195
Got another one, disconnected. Is this for real?

>>165033429
I wouldn't know.

Decided to take a break until we're out of beta. :3c

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>>165033429
Wow. This makes me not want to queue again for fear of being on the other team.

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>>165035401

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>>165035698
gets me every time

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>>165017271
yes
i'll blame the husbando tier

>>165033429
you can disconnect in placement drafts without fear of repercussions.
it might force you to play qm but you wont lose points.

placement matches are only quick at the beginning of the season.

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BEST HUSBANDO

>>165037279
>tfw other bug dudes never ever

>>165008592
>my nigga Leoric in average
>Diablo the king of swag in average
>Cho in Top tier with Arthas

Lol

I've got it. So if they never add the option to opt for a Warrior and Support game in QM, then just give it the HL treatment at the very least.

Solo queue only, and team queue. Groups of 4 have to play Unranked, or give solo queuers a checkbox to make them eligible for being grouped with a group of 4, and in the event that happens, they get an exp and gold bonus for helping out the 4-stack queues.

I legitimately like this idea.

>4-5 man in qm
>they abuse some hero combo
>look up their profile
>unranked in both HL & TL
how chicken can you be?

when the fuck is auriel getting a nerf so she isnt in every single game

Is there any fucking reason to not take Hyperion on Raynor? I feel like despite the AA boosts getting taken away, it's still what you want when most of your teamfights are 5v5 clashes around the fucking objective. e.g goddamn Blackbeard.

Our fucking lv 20 Raynor had 5 coins from the first chest because he took them uncontested while we all died trying to turn in the first 5 coins because 3 teammates decided to split the coins amongst themselves then all stand together by Blackbeard while I solo fed trying to keep them safe.
He hearthed back to base, and then pinged Blackbeard while everyone was dead.
>Me: "We're dead, Jim. It's unsafe."
He goes in solo, dies like a retard, and then gets mad while pinging like mad.
>"NOOB TEAM WTF HELP ME"
Then the rest of the game he kept feeding and feeding while out of position and then picking the stupid Banshees and basically never close enough to do shit with them because he was always either the first one charging in dead or too pussy to join a teamfight until after everybody died. Spent more time whining in team chat than shooting anything.

Then he started complaining about the teamcomp and talent choices. When I told him to fuck off when he's doing jackshit himself with his ult pick, he starts calling me kid and saying shit like "You clearly don't play Raynor".

I gave up and solo pushed top lane while the enemy team ignored me as they pummeled my team to bits as they kept streaming in one by one with 1-2 camp coins each and never grouping up for another proper teamfight ever again. I wasn't able to do shit in teamfights except feed like a retard, so why bother feeding. Enemy team never bothered to push, they just farmed coins off my teammates and let Blackbeard smash the core like we were playing Towers of Doom. Our Auriel kept marking Raynor as her energy source. She used her heal like 3-4 times all game because she never had energy.

God, I didn't think it was possible to be that shit or ineffective at Raynor.

>>165042343
Always Hyperion. Of course, the superior option is to git gud and play Valla.

so when are they making specialists like zagara viable in this turboslut meta
you can't cast a single spell without losing 60% hp

>>165042398
Valla has to be one of the most overrated heroes in the current meta.
Her health pool is too low and she got nerfed too hard yet she requires a dedicated shield bitch to truly shine.
there is a reason why isnt picked outside competitive.

>>165042343
There is no reason whatsoever to pick the Raiders over Hyperion. They're are pure, hot, unadulterated garbo, They do no damage and they die incredibly fast, has no range to speak of either.

Hyperion is just better in all aspects.

how zuljin?
i like trolls :s

>>165042398
>>165043843
Thank you, this has been bothering me all weekend as I've been trying to think of a good reason to have had that goddamn Raynor build ever. Only been playing a couple months so I've been doubting myself a lot. He was too retarded to be a smurf (well, not necessarily) and he kept saying stupid shit all game so he clearly didn't know what he was talking about but I kept doubting.

>"dude wtf you don't need to farm camps for 10 coins"
>"auriel, please heal me next time"
>"why are you over there Anon help the team"
>"u clearly dont play raynor"
>"lol ok kid"
>*pingpingpingping*
>"you have 4 deaths, I have 3 and did most damage, you fed more than me noob"
>"auriel next time you play pick res its better"
>"zarya is so op"
>"bg"

I'm not great, I'm still learning, but god fucking damnit, how is this game so hard to understand for some people.

>>165044756
>picks raiders
>wants ress instead of aegis

This guy HAS to be trolling hard, no one can be this amount of retarded.

>>165044330
Instantly a favorite. Most optimal way to play him is to pretty much forget about the increased attack speed on his trait, it barely matters except when in a 1v1 scenario.

Taz'dingo is (In my opinion) the big "noob trap". If they have any CC or Blinds at all, it's nearly useless, so that's to may pretty much always is it useless. It's more of an escape/life saver than anything else unless your comp is built around it to support it. Guillotine takes a lot of practice to get right not only in timing but usage, and where your health should be for it.

is Johanna any good?

>>165045276
ill get him soonish then, sounds fun

>>165045650
she's good, cute and fun

Kharazim viable as a solo support?

>>165047794
viable but not optimal

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>grubby is good i swear

l m a o
m
a
o

How do you build sylvanas now?

>>165048576
Pick ALL the Haunting Wave talents. Play like the faggot you always wanted to be but couldn't because of reasons.

>>165048298
>Samuro's VA is racist

>>165048298
>have friend who listens to grubby like he's the real Jesus
>get to hear every SINGLE thing he ever did on our voice comm

killme

>>165039993
that would make things worse since it's the only healer a lot of people own from the promotion.

>"x streamer is shit!"
>says the platinum leaguer

>>165051194
I'm playing TL with 2 grandmasters and they both say grubby is literal bronze.

>>165024938
Agreed.

>>165051691

I believe you Internet anonymous poster.

Who would lie on the internet?

What talents to pick on Medivh?

>>165052152
Stable Portal
Mage Armor/Bird's Eye
Master's Touch
Either ult, it's situational
Quickening/Astral Projection
Circle of Protection/Reabsorption
Ult upgrade/Arcane Brilliance

>>165026673
Falstad is good but he doesn't belong in tier s
>medivh tier s
>comparing Alarak and Kerrigan when Alarak is a strong sololaner while Kerrigan is a infernal shrine niche pick
Muradin has shitall to do with Tychus. He's one of the best tanks to go up against him.
>abathur is good because he's niche
>arthas, anub, gm and tyrande aren't good because they're niche
Again Sonya is good because she beats every other jungler on bhb, she's as good as them and if they're t2 so should she be

>grubby is my god, he's so good at the game and everyone doubting him is bad
Nice one

Does alarak have any other builds besides the one with the highest pick rate on hotslogs? Could I go full lightning and not be a shitter?

>>165042343
You pick Raiders against heavy dive with a lot of cc.

>>165051194
>diamond grubby/chu/mewn/horsepants/whatever other shit streamer there is fanboy thinks his idols are actually good and not glorified masters
You want good streamers watch Koreans Alex, Fan, Bakery or maybe Mcintyre.
Mene never streams rip

>>165053365
A lot of the lightning talents are pretty good. I see the lightning talent at 7 all the time in pro play because it's harder to stack Q there.

>>165053365
Full lightning is ok. It's the low lvl build.

If you can hit your combos go standard build. If you can't go lightning.

>>165052152
Stable portal
Mage armour if you're team will actually use your portals, birds eye otherwise
Master's touch if you know you will get it completed, other Q upgrade if you're learning him
Either, mass poly against shitters for sure though
Astral projection
Readsorption
Map dependant, all have their uses

>>165053673
That's not the reason it's picked. You take it because it gives you so much better sustain and safety.

It's a bitch to stack but most of the times e quest is better than q quest, no matter what build you go for.

>>165054265
>implying people above wood league stand close enough together to stack the E quest

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>be Kael'thas
>enemy team has a shitter vikings that always has the 3 grouped up

>>165022491
(Games played - AI wins) - Games won in QM = QM W/L ratio
And so forth.

>>165054661
I have no idea what you're saying.
You know you don't have to click e on a hero to stack it?

>>165054689

>Be Gul'dan
>3 grouped up Vikings
>9 stacks for the E quest on the first cast

Easiest game of my lyfe

>>165053727
Low lvl? As in shit tier?

>>165054925
I'd say everything below good diamond but then I have no idea how plat plays this game.

Bronze, silver and gold it's probably the best build.

>>165055047
>diamond
>good

Choose one.

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>>165027634
Don't go

>tfw you get a 4 man premade of russians
The second one of them said something in russian I knew we had already lost

>forced 50% win rate
>win 5 games
>lose about 15 in a row
>makes me angry
>start flaming cos this is fucking ridiculous just losing game after game after game
>went from platinum 2 to gold 5 in a day
>I consistently get MVP, most siege damage, hero damage, most exp contribution
>I'm the only one that tries to go for objectives
>get silenced
>this time it is 4 days as this is my 3rd time now

Time to drop this game? Anything with a 50% forced win rate is trash I guess.

>>165056865
>loses ranked game
>keeps playing
You deserve it.

>>165056953
My teams are fucking brain damaged trash, and I have to lose a few until my MMR gets normalised again. What else should I do?

I took breaks, but it is pretty much confirmed that I must lose a few games.

Maybe when I get a trash team I should just A move and minimise while doing something else.

>>165056865
>win 5
>lose 15

That's not 50%, anon.

In all seriousness, just take a break and relax. If you're really that upset with the game, put it down for a bit.

>>165057052
I seem to win more points than I lose per game though.

>>165056865

You will continue to lose if you get fucking assblasted and flame when things don't go your way.

Won three HL games yesterday that we were behind on kills, and one where we had a bottomless sylvannas the first 20 minutes of the game.

Flaming your team when bad shit happens leads to people giving up and losing on purpose, so better just to stay quiet or positive to avoid going into tilt and throwing.

If you can't handle that kind of responsibility turn ally chat off.

>>165057128
You would need to be getting 100+ more points per win than a loss for that to even out.

Another suggestion is to warm up with some more casual modes before or in between ranked games. Play QM or brawl with some friends, play the game in a way where you have fun whether you win or lose.

One more question: Is Pure Malice on Alarak a must have?

>>165057521
Definitely not a must-have, but certainly isn't a bad pick.

>players in plat are STILL picking greymane into Thrall
>players in plat are STILL picking greymane at all

W H Y
H
Y

>>165057521
I prefer the tele' damage boost.

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dont forget to watch my stream anons!

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kek

Time to play Abathur with extra mines and start writing on the ground with mines

>>165038849

>We will never go back to prenerf Leoric.
>That unlimited mana and health.
>That unstopabable damage.

why is the worst player of the team always the loudest?

>Tyrael never gives anyone speed boosts
>Morales stims Butcher at random with nothing there for him to hit
>Johanna goes 1v5 at every chance

plat 4 is cancer town

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>>165058704
What did he mean by that?

>>165059763
Silenced players are the best then?

>>165060114
He still mad because Grubby and is good and popular and he is a goldie.

>>165060569
hi grubby

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>>165035401
>>165035698
>Lord Umami and The Chef King skins never

>>164976167
Haven't seen any non English in weeks fampai, maybe you should stop complaining about Mexicans if you live in Mexico

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>>165035698
>Glad you could make Aman'thul

>watch your tone with me boy, you may be our champion, but I'm still you're superior as the Allfather

>as if I could forget, look Aman'thul, there's something about the Old Gods you should know. Oh no, it's too late. These planets have all been infected. They may look fine now, but it's only a matter of time before they turn into a void titan

>what?

>this entire universe must be purged

>how can you even consider that? There's got to be some other way

>damn it Aman'thul, as your future highfather, I order us to purge this universe

>you are not my highfather yet, nor would I obey that command if you were

>then I must consider this an act of treason

>treason? have you lost your mind Sargeras?

>have I? Allfather Aman'thul, by my right of succession and the sovereignty of the Pantheon, I hereby relieve you of your command and suspend your titans from service

>Sargeras you can't just...

>it's done! Those you you who have the will to save this universe, follow me. The rest of you? get out of my sight

>you've just crossed a terrible threshold Sargeras

>Eonar?

>I'm sorry Sargeras, I can't watch you do this

>>164983763
Brightwing, lunara, zagara, chromie

>>165063376
But Chromie's a guy.

Arthas
Artanis
Thrall
Jaina
Uther

This is the new meta. This composition will win 100% times if the people know what they're doing.

>>164994690
>bronze
There's your problem

>>165064887
Why uther?

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>>165048298
he gets shat on by people from this general on the daily

>>165065058
>>makes me angry
People like to act as if Uther is bad, but he just requires skill. He's good great heals and his kit is amazing for ANY situation, see shrink ray/cleanse. On top of that, this comp is heavy on CC and Uther adds a lot to it.

>>165065290
That's a big webm.

>>165066001
For you.

>>165048298
>>165065290
https://www.twitch dot tv/followgrubby/v/108564020?t=03h31m48s

>>165065837
this fucking retard right here
>current meta has a ton of damage going out at all times
>fucking rehgar struggles for mana
>hey guys uther isn't bad
>no guys srsly the guy with huge cooldowns and high mana costs isn't a bad healer right now
>guys srsly he can outheal a bloodlusted team
>srsly you guys he can run a brightwing oom
>guys ffs he can win vs malfurion in an extended teamfight
god damn it you guys

>>165068465
>>srsly you guys he can run a brightwing oom
you say that like brightwing isnt shit now

>>165068775
and she is ten times better than uther

>>165068465
Just because meta doesn't fit him doesn't mean he's bad.

Some new heroes, meta shifts a bit and he'll be great again.

>>165068465
I think Uther's viable right now but he needs the right scenario.
Basically the same scenario he's always been good in: Supporting dives.
Probably not as a solo healer though.

>>165068775
she isn't

>>165072025
>best talent nerfed into being one of her worst

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>Valeera over Van Cleef
Lapdogs all of you!

>>165073119
It's okay, Van Queef will be our Outlaw Rogue representative.

>>165073292
>3 rogues one with each spec

my dick can't handle this

>>165073119
Van Cleef is a dumb idiot that bullied a bunch of farmers and got his head cut off for it

>>165073623
This, the only people who like him are /v/fags who refuse to let vanilla go.

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>>165073292
>outlaw

>>165073803
The new name for Combat Rogue.

>>165073742
>who refuse to let vanilla go
This game is based on the premise of not letting go of old beloved characters.

>>165074000
And that's why you pick popular characters instead of small wow characters.

>>164971803
Not Vikings. They require apm but their gameplay is very straightforward.

I'd say Medivh.

>>164972032
Why buff them when they have more than 50% winrate?

For all the talks of HOTS being Blizzard's big failure, there's absolutely no way that it doesn't have a way bigger active playerbase than D3 or Starcraft.

>>165075681
I honnestly believe that HOTS is the best Blizzard game right now. It's not perfect, but it's definitely better than all other MOBAs anyway.