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>tfw no eredar lord of the burning legion edition

>What's new?
Zul'jin (the Warcraft version, not the WoW version) live right now.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/zuljin/

https://youtu.be/XUhMCNzcUb0
https://youtu.be/sYIpkktbm68

>Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20407269/weekly-sale-jan-3-10-2017-1-3-2017

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Where do I find you meme loving faggots?
/join /vg/

>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20459869/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-january-6-2016-mage-wars-1-5-2017

>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20462409/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-update-january-6-2017-1-6-2017

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE [Embed]

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

Previously on /hotsg/: >>164659383
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fuck I missed an embed
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1st for Medivh a best
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3rd for waifus
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Taz'dingo should not be on a 90 second cooldown!!!
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MENGSK!

WHEN!
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>already having games where neither team has Zul'jin

that was fast, still have Rag in every fucking game though
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>>164801629
next leak when ?
next hero announcement when ?
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>>164801663
They overnerf memedingo now he has shitty ulties.
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>>164801663
rag is a good hero

>>164801847
zuljin was a weak hero with shitty ultimates even before the nerf
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Futanari Sonya skin when?
Diablo 1 Warrior when?
Baron Rivendare when?
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>>164801663
>still have Rag in every fucking game though
Because he's good.
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what's the lowest league where i can find good players?
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>>164802208
Diablo Female skin when
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>>164802208
Never (sadly)
Never
Maybe
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>>164802386
masters
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>>164802386

Consistently? Diamond I or II, at least that's around where it was last season.

>>164801847

He already did.
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>>164802386
Gold, but it's very rare.
Plat: people have decent mechanics with their heroes, but can't draft for shit and no map-awareness.
Diamond: Same shit but people somewhat play together as a team.
Master: Somewhat decent players.
Grandmaster: Handfull of good players.
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>>164802771
Who would voice? That one lady who who voices every female that isn't human or brightwing?
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Is building Zul'jin around his Twin Cleave viable, or should you always go for AA bonuses?
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>>164803047
Literally do not care. Haven't played D3 in years, I just want the skin.
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>>164803131
always AA
but it's still shit
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>>164802386
Gold.

I've been fucking around playing HL with a QM mentality and noticed that there's some extreme mouthbreathers in silver. Past that there's plenty of bad players in gold but not super retard stronk-tier.
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>>164803131
W+Guillotine build is viable.
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>Stitches is bad

I wish he had better talents though. He has only one build that actually makes him effective and all the rest are trash
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>>164802198
>>164802967
You guys are right but at least it was available all the time.
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>>164803337
Whats the build, nerd.
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Thats some epic programming there Blizzard.
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>>164803337
What build is that? I haven't touched him in a few months but use to play him all the time as

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJZsU2kAkfE

build.

Can pretty much ignore him more then Johanna.
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>>164802386
I know one or two guys that should be in Diamond but were sent to gold 1 because of this trash matchmaking. They are plat 3 right now and going for diamond.
Same for me. This trash matchmaking put me in plat 5 and I manage to reach diamond 1. For some reason I was sent from Dia 3 to plat 4 for the season 3.
Platinum is annoying as hell, it's hard to reach diamond because of all the trash there is.
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>>164801779
Hopefully never, you'll have to find some other way to fish for upvotes, buddy.
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>>164803457
Dampen magic if the other team has burst assassins, heavy slam if not
Putrid ground
Tenderizer
Putrid bile is better than gorge because slowing their entire team for combos works better
Mega smash so that slam can hit everyone
Pulverize
Hardened shield
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Why are people so fucking shit at

1) Soaking correctly
2) Clearing/pushing correctly
3) Mercing... at all?
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How do I find people to play with
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>>164803649
>>164803883
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>>164804023
>Soaking
How does this?
I've seen the game commend me on "soaking" twice.
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>>164803337
>>164803883

Just walk around in the middle of their team and do stupid amounts of aoe damage, right?

He's still pretty shit as a tank, honestly. There's literally nothing you can do to stop a Kerrigan from fucking your Valla, Morales or Jaina.

>reliably hit hooks on killable targets
>have follow-up cc

That's about all he's good for. Seems like he's still a beefcake aoe bruiser.

>>164804023

Yeah, and people in Platinum and Diamond still randomly push waves, advance forward in an open lane with no nearby structures only to get ganked.

>sry i was soaking

Because apparently "freezing" and "not pushing the wave" are advanced fucking tactics in this game.
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>>164804023
>mercing

Literally noone know how to merc in this game.
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>>164803337
>stitches autist
Fucking vorefag.
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I want to fuck all of you.
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>>164804309
>There's literally nothing you can do to stop a Kerrigan from fucking your Valla, Morales or Jaina.

The slows from bile and slam causes idiots who blindly jump your carries to have no back up. The slows stack meaning you can root half an enemy team and force then to focus you or try and walk through literal shit while your team can focus down whoever tried to jump ahead
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>>164804106
FUCK IT TIME FOR HOT STICHES ON QM ACTION

PLACE YOUR BET NIGGIES
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>>164804826
medievh will carry blue
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>>164804826
Betting on the bigger pre-made unless you know how to land rescue hooks
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>>164804510
But fucking WHY, is what I'm wondering.
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>>164804109
Soaking is basically just the term for "being nearby when a minion dies to get the exp."
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>bot game takes 30 minutes because of Lava Wave AI Rag killing split-pushes and the fact my group of retards cannot win a single fight and refuse to take boss
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>>164805385
>30 minute bot game
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>>164803881
>implying I browse reddit
I just want to know if I should expect anything from this game this year.
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>>164802386
Anything above gold. The matchmaking is completely broken so good and bad players are spread all over the place and there is only so much you can carry as one player out of five
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>all my quests for the past week have literally been "play as a warrior hero"

what did blizz mean by this
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>>164805575

I wouldn't get your hopes up.

At least they're pumping out somewhat fresh new Heroes every few weeks. That's nice.

>>164805941

Funny, I've gotten either the 600 or 800 quest almost every day on my accounts.
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>>164805197
Because a lot of the heroes can't do mercs solo so people won't even try it when they play a hero that can. Also, nobody ever comes to help you even if you type it in chat and ping the merc camp
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>>164805385
>people unable to run away from a 10second telegraph
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>>164806235
It wasn't Lava Wave's damage that was the problem.
It was the stalling depush value.
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>>164804109
>make sure that heroes are well splitted on every lanes
>tank and healer should probably be together
>have someone that can solo lane in your team (zag, sylv, thrall, guldan...)
>if you roam, make sure you actually kill people or at least make as much xp as they do
>if no one is in a lane (because someone died or backed for mana), make sure people rotate to keep soaking xp
>if they have an extra talent soak till you catch up
>avoid fighting 4v5 unless you have an advantage (talent, they are low life, you are just poking the objective...)
>leave the objective, don't be afraid to have to def the boss / curse/ whatever in order to catch up the xp
>if lanes are pushed do a camp instead
>if all lanes are pushed & camps done prepare yourself for the objective
>if everything is done and objective won't appear before a long time, it means you got an extra talent and should gank / push


I have played on the account of a friend, and in silver / gold, the main problem is that people don't understand the soaking, and it's pretty hard to convince them that you shouldn't contest an objective and leave their team curse you to not feed more and catch up the xp, that you shouldn't fight 4v5, etc.

The worse is in the cursed hollow. Your team curse them, instead of pushing they want to do the boss. That's basically not using the curse and letting the enemies come back.

I probably forget one or two things, then there are map specific strategies
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>>164806008
>At least they're pumping out somewhat fresh new Heroes every few weeks.
yeah but as a huge diablo fan I was disappointed by this year. 3 diablo heroes isn't much, and I think no one cared about auriel, even if she can be good and useful in game. Same goes for Zarya. I would have prefered anyone else from overwatch.
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>>164806235

It's less that it kills players and more that it kills their means to push.

>>164806557
>silver and gold not soaking

Yeah, the people down there are, like, Bronze V players. They practically kill themselves.

>>164806820

Yeah, I don't even play Diablo but would like to see more Heroes from that universe.

>pls no overwatch for a while tho pls no d.va
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>Do Brawl
>Enemy gets 4 naz
>Lose
What the fuck was blizzard thinking
Hes not even a mage, all he does is summon shit
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Lost. We came back in the middle of the game, but Artanis and Nova wouldn't stop arguing the entire game.
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>>164805224
Oh. Thank you so much.
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>>164807976
>Artanis outdamaging Nova and Zul

Yeah, looks like you had the worst luck of teammates
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>play unranked
>HotS makes my grafx card shit itself
>get Leaver's queue

fuck off blizzard
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Taz'dingo needs to be able to be used while stunned. Shit is too easy to deal with.
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Dehaka: Good or Bad?
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>>164809523
Shit, he would've faded into obscurity long ago hadn't it been for his meme global.
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>>164809523
After playing both him and Stiches alot, I will say he played liks a better Stiches and definitely a better playmaker. However being a "better" stiches isn't saying much, as he can easily be ignored in the same manner unless he does spin2win build.

The level 20 nerf on his global travel also made him shittier for his supposive global presence.
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>>164808380
I severely doubt it's hots fault your graphics card is garbage or dying
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Maievfags, what happens when we do get Maiev? Who's gonna be your next _______ WHEN?
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>>164810784
WHENS MAHVEL?
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>>164810784
Yrel
with horse-dick futa skin
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This game is exceptionally bad around new hero releases.
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>Play Brawl
>Pick Naz
>Get Superstition at 13
>Proceed to sit in enemy ults throwing spiders at them

He's hilariously overpowered in this.
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>>164811151
Jaina stacking is pretty good too. The map is basically pick Nazeebo if you can, if you can't, take Jaina or Gul'dan

Anyone else and you are fucking up
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>>164809512
Taz'dingo needs it's 20 to be it's 10
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>Medivh is just able to fly around and never take damage because everyone's damage if tied to burst in the brawl
How could they make one so bad
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>>164810904
I like the way you think.
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>>164811738
>pick kt
>top hero, siege and xp contribution

Chromie is shit in this brawl
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Taz'dingo doesn't work against anyone of competence, and Guillotine needs a damage buff and maybe a shorter landing time. Even with the level 1 ability power talent, it still can't fucking finish people off. It's ridiculous. I keep regretting taking Guillotine, but then when I take Taz'dingo I just feel like I don't get to even do anything but just run SOMETIMES, assuming someone didn't save a long ranged ability for when I come out of it.

Zul'jin is aweosme, I just... I honestly think his ults suck ass.
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>>164813125
>tfw sniping tazdingod out zuljins all day long with chromie
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>>164813125
I don't think we are going to see zj in tournaments because of that.
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>decide to buy nova
>constantly tilting teammates and telling them to stfu when they ask me to do something

ebin
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>What did he mean by this
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>>164813783
Yeah, pretty much.

Taz'dingo: lol dude just stun him or walk away or blind lol ALTERNATIVELY lol dude just stun him and burst him itll be like he doesnt even have an ult

Guillotine: dude just like get healed lol

Because for real, by the time you're low and ready to throw out a heft ass Guillotine, the fight is pretty much over and your team got fucked, or you won the fight and you're just finishing someone off with it. Getting low to throw a Guillotine at the start of the fight is fine, but they'll just lol get healed, and now you're also low at the beginning of a fight, which more often than not is a big no-no.
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>>164814153
did he dead
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>>164814664
fuck yes! finally some warcraft assassins we didnt see one of those for a long time now
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>>164814664
link it fag
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>>164814664
>yet another WC ass
why am i not surprised
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>>164815276
>WC ass

In more than one sense.
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>>164814736
>Because for real, by the time you're low and ready to throw out a heft ass Guillotine, the fight is pretty much over and your team got fucked, or you won the fight and you're just finishing someone off with it. Getting low to throw a Guillotine at the start of the fight is fine, but they'll just lol get healed, and now you're also low at the beginning of a fight, which more often than not is a big no-no.

Not to mention they can just cc you when you try to do that HEY GUYS HERE I'M USING MY R animation and that fucking delay ffs is like Chromie's W but you do half damage.
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>>164815396
And it has 4x the cooldown.

Fucking sucks man. He's great otherwise, but fuck do these ults blow.
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>>164815332
Wonder if her ass will outshine Tyrande and Ming. I'm not a waifu faggot but they did put some details into asses in this game, especially emphasizing nova's. She is a blood elf though, but didn't stop that comic artist from drawing her with pornstar proportions.
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>>164815586
>She is a blood elf though
Belf have the biggest and roundest butts in wow.
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>>164814664
>its real
oh no

>>164815265
http://blizzard.gamespress.com/Heroes-of-the-Storm
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datamined tassadar rework info

TassadarDimensionalShiftPowerShiftTalent=[PH] When Dimensional Shift expires, all damage you deal is increased by [VALUE]% for [VALUE] seconds.

TassadarExecutorsControlTalent=[PH] Lower the Cooldown of your Heroic Ability by 50%.

TassadarMysticPursuitTalent=Quest: Regeneration Globes grant Tassadar an additional 100% Mana. Reward: After collecting [VALUE] Regeneration Globes, increase your Basic Attack range by [VALUE]%.
TassadarMysticPursuitTalentTokenComplete=Reduces Oracle cooldown


TassadarOracleTemplarsWillTalent=[PH] Your passive Mana regeneration is doubled when you have an active Plasma Shield.

TassadarPlasmaShieldGenerator=Activate to give all nearby allied Heroes a base version Plasma Shield.

TassadarPlasmaShieldKhalasCradleTalent=[PH] Increase the Life Leech of Plasma Shield by [VALUE]%.
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>>164802208
Next hero
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>>164814664
Diablokids btfo.
Yet another hero memed into existence.
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>>164815710

TassadarPlasmaShieldKhalasTouchTalent=[PH] When Plasma Shield expires the target gains, [VALUE]% Move Speed and [VALUE]% Damage Resistance for [VALUE] seconds.

TassadarPlasmaShieldKineticReachTalent=Increase the duration of Plasma Shield by [VALUE] seconds.

TassadarPsionicStormPsiInfusionTalentTokenComplete=Psionic Storm returns Mana per target hit

TassadarPsionicStormPsiInfusionTalentTokenComplete=QUEST COMPLETE! Mana gained: [VALUE]/[MAX] Psionic Storm Range Increase: 50%

TassadarPsionicStormPsionicIntensityTalent=[PH] You can now cast a second Psionic Storm within 3 seconds of casting the first. Each subsequent damage tick of Psionic Storm deals [VALUE]% more damage.

TassadrMentalAcuityOracleTalentToken= Heroes killed: [VALUE]/[VALUE] Cooldown reduction: [VALUE]
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Holy shit, so we really aren't getting a D1 or even D2 hero for Diablo's anniversary.

They... they really don't give a fuck about Diablo anymore... Jesus christ this is sad.
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BELIAL FUCKING WHEN
>make one of his Rs that one attack all the shitters died to in vanilla d3
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>>164817142
Anon... warcraft is much, much more popular than diablo...
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>>164817219
Just saying, Diablo III outsold WoW.
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>>164817324
I don't think diablo 3 outsold a single wow expansion.
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>Fixed an issue that caused Dehaka to deal bonus damage to monsters

Monsters?
They usually refer to things as minions or mercenaries, what is the monster category?
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>>164817369
Combining all platforms Diablo III sold more than 30 million.

WoW has sold about 14 million.

The WoW expansions sold better than Diablo III's, but barely, and it outsold Pandaria.
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>>164817520
Also the subs and all the other transactions like faction changes, mounts, race chances and such.
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>>164817479
Monsters are objective enemies, like the skeletons on infernal shrines or the big spiders on tomb.
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>>164817479
Zerg waves on Braxis and skeletons on Punisher map
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>>164817684
>>164817727
Oh, I see.
Fuck me, I'm stupid
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>tfw you're stomping the other team so bad that you don't ult once
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>>164817639
That only means Warcraft has a loyal fanbase willing to spend money.

It does not mean that Warcraft is
>much, much more popular than diablo...
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>so bored of hots ur thinking of buying d3 on ps3
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>>164818163
fuck off with the mutt-girl posting /pol/
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frog
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>>164818950
momiji is /jp/ you cur
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>>164820109
Then why is posted all over /pol/, especially the trump threads with "awooo" at the front of every one.
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>>164800448
Healthy young Greymane goes to Zul'jin, gets him down to 1% life, doesn't do well and dies - TAZ'DINGO! Many such cases!
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>>164820292
The better question, is why do you go to /pol/?
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>>164820292
they appropriated the "awoo" meme from elsewhere
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>>164820494
>Greymane
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>>164817142
I don't care too much about the "Heroes of the WoW" meme, but I'm mostly annoyed that we're getting a third fucking assassin in a row.
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>>164820494
I understand that reference.jpg
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Why all Butcher players are cancer? They are all "hurr sure I'm gonna get some kills" edgelords. They should go back to playing DOTA
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>>164821861
I have trouble understanding that this post means. Only thing I managed to get is "I dislike Butcher players"
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>>164821861
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>>164821861
>hurr durr edgelords go back to dota
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>No spidertits
At least valeera is also fappable
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>>164806820
You guys have two more maps than Warcraft.
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>brawl
>5 chromies
>waiting for people to step on the traps
>fucking NUKE whoever steps on it
boy i'm having FUN
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>>164806820
I actually cared about Auriel, Auriel is LOVE, Auriel is HOPE!
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>>164825516
Back off, she is mine.
I'm going to marry Auriel and impregnate her
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>another wc assassin

DIABLOKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>164820494
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>>164820494
>>164821252
>>164826132
Explain?
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>>164804052
I can play with you anon
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>>164826394
It's about Trump, don't bother
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>>164826394
Something about vaccines and Donald trump twitter posting
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>>164826558
Wot?
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>>164826394
Dont worry anon, your mother will be allright, i post this just as reference
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>>164826787
(you)
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>daily is play 3 games as warrior
>ignore it and play other roles
>look later and see 1/3
This also happened a couple days ago when I had a specialist daily. Has this happened to anyone else cause that's twice this week?
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>>164827049
Draft games count as every role and universe because they didn't want people fucking up draft games because of quests.
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>>164827049
HL matches give quest regardless of what you pick
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>>164826934
I TOLD YOU DONT WORRY YOU FUCK
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>play aba
>nova suicides trying to find me 7 times during the game
>seven

the fuck is wrong with some people
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>Valeera is unironically the next hero
Another warcraft assassin wtf is blizzmemes doing
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>>164827179
>>164827208


Oh shit didn't know that. My bad. I'm retarded.
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>>164827279
Plot twist, she will be healer with healbots from hearthstone to mock rogue players in hearthstone
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>>164827268
I'd probably be the same way if it was my first time, especially since not playing nova like ever.
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>>164828610
He was level 40 and gold league.
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>>164800448
So I have had this game for ages, but only started playing it like the night before that Genji skin promotion thing finished. The menus were all glitchy as fuck and it kept readying and unreadying us when we got a team together but other than that it was pretty good. But now that I go to play on my own, even in AI teamates and AI opponents, it just sits there saying something about waiting for the game mode to download and the ready button is gone. Then if by some miracle the ready button DOES appear, after I hit it it still looks for a game even when everyone but me is meant to be AI and then nothing happens and I can't even cancel it. Tried google but couldn't really find anything. Does anyone here know what the flaming fuck is going on? I did a repair on it and that came back fine so I'm out of ideas.
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>Jaina
>Deep Chill
>25% slow increased to 30%
>2017
I thought we were done with horrible why would you ever pick this talents
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>>164827279
What if shes a multiclass Assassin/Specialist
If they arent gonna make Maive that then Valeera could maybe fill the role
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>>164828873
How could she be an specialist? Spamming fok? Sound like a good idea but hard to execute properly.
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>>164828873
>multiclass

pls no varian was a mistake
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Does anyone think we'll see people like Sargeras or Amon in this game ever?
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>>164828989
varian is a high tier tank.
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>>164827225
>>164827208
>>164827179
>>164827049
>game crashes
>all my quests are gone
>receive all the gold anyway without having to do anything
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>>164828873
Wouldn't work, Rogues have 3 specs, all of which are damage. I HOPE she kicks off the start of a Rogue trio in the same way Rehgar started the Shaman trio, in that we are missing an Elemental Shaman and we'll have all three specs represented.

VOTE MOROES 4 SUBTLETY ROGUE REP.
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>>164815781
>D.Va gets put into the game
>shit talks Raynor/Tychus/Hammer every time she kills them
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>>164829527
In wow valeera is a subt rogue.
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>>164829610
Fuck, was she? I thought she was Assassination. I benched her on my Rogue and haven't used her.

Well, shit. I still hope she's Assassination, so I can hope for Moroes and Edwin for Outlaw.
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>>164829773
No wait you're right she is assassination http://www.wowhead.com/champion=891/valeera-sanguinar

I benched her fat ass too becuase of that awful leeching poison trait.
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>Playing chen
>all this damage
>little to no Hard CC
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I really don't get how Jaina's winrate is so high. Pretty sure mine is 0%. Fuckin always get dove by some mongo retard but my team never even pays attention.
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>>164829535
That would be pretty funny, but she probably use Zergs.
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>meme lists are have butcher in shit tier
I mean I guess that proves only noobs make meme lists
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If this "you were dropped shit" doesn't stop soon, I might legit quit this game. This is so miserable.

It didn't used to happen. It NEVER happened. Sure, disconnects would happen where you'd have to wait, but never did I have a thing pop up that straight up forces me to exit the client and start again.
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>>164830672
The amount of disconnects I've been getting in my games this last 3 months is absolutely fucking insane. I have NO idea what happened, but people drop like flies.
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>>164830141
If they try and dive you they get slowed almost 40% and then you backpedal while fireing off 400 damage icicles every 2 seconds.
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>>164831658
my bad.
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post yfw you get the team that gives up right at the start of the first bad fight, but you keep them together as your team starts stomping to victory
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>>164831810
jaina is pure

cm is a slut
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So why did they let rag have two ults at once?
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>>164828798
It used to be OP, but they nerfed it. It was that or remove it. Probably should have gone with remove it though, because it is indeed just uselessly taking up a slot.
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>>164831810
>>164831658
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Ever since the patch, I can barely muster a win. I've played maybe 30 games, and won like 8. What the fuck is going on? And the people I'm getting matched with are so fucking mouthy and never do fucking anything correctly, yet shit talk everyone around them.
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>>164832815
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>haven't seen rexxar in over 50 matches
>decide to dust him off and give him a play
>it's a mirror match
every fucking time
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>>164833242
only

constand

:^D
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>>164834610
fug!!!!!!!!! :-D
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>>164833242
Possibly your attitude with a good mix of just getting unlucky. Can't remember if this game forces 50/50 but it happens in Overwatch. Mouthy memers who play like dumpster
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>>164801964
Sweet, was wondering why this game had so little porn
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>>164834610
>>164834973
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>>164835272
because is a dead game.
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>>164835384
>>164835301
Actually, it has more to do with the models being crappy. You can't really rig them properly without breaking them.
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I haven't played WoW.

What is the staple WoW rogue playstyle? Can we predict Valeera's kit from the fact that she'll most likely be a WoW rogue stand-in in style of Varian being WoW warrior? Something something combo points, something poisons, dunno.
Educate me.
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>>164802386
of legends
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you guys suck.. so much for being a gaming community
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>>164835664
combat rogue
of course combat isn't in the game anymore because it got replaced with outlaw - and we're not getting an outlaw hero because greymane
maybe ass or subtlety
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>>164831810
can you main CM and win every doto game??
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>>164835664
it depends greatly on whether or not they give her an active stealth ability
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>>164835664
>invis trait + bonus damage from behind
>q sinister strike
>w add poison to weapon (maybe cycle through different poisons)
>e teleport behind enemy
>r either cheap shot or backstab or sap or something
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>>164835664

Assassination Rogue, right?

We might see a whole second set of Q, W and E abilities if they give her a "Stealth" on her D.

>Garrote, a single-target silence coming out of stealth
>Cheap Shot, a single-target stun coming out of stealth
>Sap, an incapacitate that breaks on damage but doesn't cause you to drop out of stealth
>Distract, cause nearby enemies to immediately face specified location

I hope they do, but I doubt it. The above are just the classic rogue stealth tools.

>Stab move, generate combo points
>Harder stab move to consume combo points to deal damage
>Kidney shoot move to consume points to stun target

I don't know if they'll do combo points AND stealth, though. Or either, lmao.

>>164836073

Eh? What's up?
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>>164836109
Wait, they're removed the bland shit that was combat rogue and replaced it with a sabre and pistol swashbuckler? I might have to try it.
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>>164836523

Yeah. Revealing Strike is now Pistol Shot, and Kidney shot is now a ranged "Between the eyes".

Something something pirate fantasy.

We even have a grappling hook that's like Heroic Leap except it can (sometimes) go up walls.
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>>164836109
>>164836606
Pirate captain Greybeard skin when?
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>>164836606
Absolute best ability they added to the game was Roll The Bones.

It's the centerpiece of the Outlaw Rogue rotation, where you roll these dice and get a random (Out of like 6 possibilities, I think it's 6) buff(s). And if you roll all 6 buffs, you're overpowered as FUCK.


Fucking love Outlaw Rogue. Edwin VanCleef when?
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Anyone wanna play? I'm grandmaster
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I envision Valeera as a "what if Lunara was a Zeratul?" ability kit.

Strong single target poison (as opposed to Lunara's idea of spreading the damage on as many enemies as possible) that somehow stacks during fight (combo points?), some CC - also based on combo points, dancing around the focused enemy stabbing him in the back or other weak spots (think LoL Fiora) and maybe some activatable stealth a'la Samuro.
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Please, share with me your Uther pics, /hotsg/
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>>164837642
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>>164837642
>>164837959
Uther rework when?

He needs a visual one too. He's got the blizzard fat midget-itis.
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>>164837420

Yeah, I figured she'd either have Fiora's minigame or Shaco's backstab minicrits, or whatever.

>Valeera is Assassination
>Edwin VanCleef is Combat/Outlaw

Who might the Subtlety Rogue be? Taoshi?

>>164836828
>roll the bones
>best ability added to the game

u wot
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Valeera might have a Hearthstone-influenced kit since thats what most people know her for.

>yfw one of her ults just summons a Gadgetzan Auctioneer
>Every time a nearby ally casts a spell a random effect happens
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im lonely
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>>164838516
its ur fate desu
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>>164838308
I love the sound effect and the graphic. The sound especially though, it's incredibly satisfying to hear, and I enjoy having to keep rolling dice until I get what I want, that added flavor for the spec made it for me.
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>>164838068
He does need a rework.
The only thing I'd really insist on would Devotion Aura at level 16 that reduces the damage allies take by 15%. It would be perfectly fine since Tyrande has her Trueshot Aura.
Hell, you could run Uther+Tyrande for 15% damage output and 15% damage synergy.
>He needs a visual one too. He's got the blizzard fat midget-itis.
He does, but I just stick to his Judgement skin.
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Why don't my Medivh portals cast as far as they should?
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>>164839991
did you talent it
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>>164838462
>Gadgetzan Auctioneer
>every time you cast an ability, a random ability resets its cooldown

Actually, I kinda like it.
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>>164841038
>smash keyboard
>win
too spastic for a moba-like 5v5 competitive all-stars brawler desu
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>>164840620

I just tested it and I guess I'm just overestimating how far they can go, or overestimating how far away my mouse is when I cast it. They can cast as far as range says.

During a fight I just swung my mouse to as far away as possible, cast portal, and it showed up like 2 feet away. Maybe I just cast too fast or something.
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Speccing all into Twin Cleave is so fucking fun, and it's satisfying to hear those things cut through the air.
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>diablo cucks on suicide watch after latest leak

HAHAHA
GET FUCKED
GET FUCKED
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>>164815668
>>164814664
explain
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>>164842012
I saw it, it really had the Valeera thing on there, it was fixed within like an hour.
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>>164842334
and nobody bothered to click it to check inside.
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I've seen crazier shit. I remember when hearthstone was leaked, people said LOL YA FUKIN RITE Y WUD BLIZZ DO A SHITTY CARD GAME DEY ALREADY HAVE A TCG

and look what happened
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>>164801629
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>>164836405
If Sap makes it in I will cry.
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>>164837642
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>>164841860
But I don't want to play as D.va.
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>>164842625
>Illidindu has a bunch of random cards
>is still winning
I laffed
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>>164837642
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>>164842730
you're going to play as Valeera cuz she's gonna be OP as shit for 4 weeks just like a hero from the best franchise deserves

GET FUCKED
GET FUCKED
GET FUCKED
I PISS ON DIABLO
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>>164842793
But I don't want to play as Valeera either.
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>>164842925
TOO
FUCKING
BAD
KID
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>diablo anniversary
>release 4 warcraft heroes in a row
>all of them are assassins
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>>164837642
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>>164843059
>anniversary of some shit tier beat em up nobody remembers
>"HURR WHY WE GIT NONE OF MUH FAVORITE OH CEES ;_;"

GET F U C K E D
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>>164810784
Valeera when?
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>>164843030
Fuck this can't be happening
>>164843059
At this point Diablo is that relative nobody likes and only invites to Christmas (Blizzcon) because they're obliged to. Like some relatives get along with him like HS but the rest just sorta want him to leave.
Rather sad desu senpai.
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>>164843189
>defending warcraft
>defending assassins
kys nigger
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>>164842432
It was empty. Notice how it says 0kbs, file size? It was just there, you clicked on it and it just brought up "Valeera screenshots" with nothing underneath.
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>>164843350
>best franchise with most interesting and well liked characters
>most diverse class in terms of gameplay (mages, ranged AA, bruisers, burst hard engage, trappers, stealths)

shit son why you gotta be stupid and mad at the same time
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>>164836109
>we're not getting an outlaw hero because greymane

=

>we're not getting an axe thrower because ReXXaR
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>>164830672
>>164830997
If you are using wifi, get cable internet. Also try to dont quit the Battle.net client while playing. You can also try to change the game to run in 32 bit version.
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i hope valeera talents will be mostly poisons/combo abilities that you select and assign to 1-2-3 and so on

also shadow dance ulti would be pretty cool

(cloak doesn't break)
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I wonder if they ever add Hearthstone-exclusive characters (i.e. Reno Jackson, Rafaam) if Blizzard would bother categorizing them as Hearthstone characters or if they'd bundle them into Warcraft characters.
I'm assuming the latter, but you never know with Blizzard "Varian is Multiclass but Kharazim is not" Entertainment.
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>>164843931
>reno jackson in hots
Please fucking no.
>heroic is Soraka/Chen's ult but it scales with how low your team's HP is
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>>164843931
Valeera is essentially a HS character.
Yes, she was in a comic that nobody read and posed as generic blood elf on some old BC art but her popularity comes from HS and it's the only reason as to why she'll be in HotS.
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>>164844412
HS doesn't have its own lore, fag
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>>164844605
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Sometimes beautiful things happen in HL.
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>>164844824
>engaging 3-on-5
>Falstad fucking up his gust
>Zarya nowhere to be found until after the end
Those shitters deserved what they got
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I'm hoping for:

Trait: Stealth
Q: Mutilate / Ambush when used from Stealth
W: Kidney Shot / Cheap Shot when used from Stealth
E: Envenom / Crimson Vial when used from Stealth

Then you change what poison you want to apply to your weapon by using 1-3 for Deadly, Mind-numbing or Leeching, and Envenom has a different finishing effect depending on your poison of choice.
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>>164843931
Rafaam could be interesting.

>Arch-Thief Rafaam
>Specialist

>Trait: Staff of Origination
Every 3 spell casts, shield yourself and nearby allies by X amount

>Q: Curse of Rafaam
Curses an enemy hero to take damage over time until they cast a spell, at which point they take an additional burst of damage.

>W: Timepiece of Horror
Can't really think of a way to do this without aping Blizzard/Magic Missiles/Rain of Destruction.

>E: Mirror of Doom
Can't think of a way to do this (as a basic ability at least) without creeping on Zag or Zeebo's territory.

>R1: Spell Steal
Mimics the last spell the target enemy hero cast, adding it to the additional skills bar(or maybe it's activatable via trait?) to be usable for X seconds.

>R2: Lantern of Power
Gives target ally X% additional max health, ability power, and attack power for Y seconds.

Maybe his talents could support a sort of piano build with various player artifacts from his boss encounter?
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>mfw HS a warcraft card game did a better job at celebrating Diablo's anniversary than the game that is all about the heroes from Warcraft, Starcraft, Overwatch and Diablo
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>>164845262
Falstad gusted so we would get hit by boss damage and couldn't follow up on the maw. It didn't really work because elune's grace, but it was about as good as he could have done once he saw the maw go down.

Zarya was late, yeah, but they couldn't really afford to wait any longer to engage because the boss was like 90% dead.
>>
>Auriel literally withholds healing me to make a point
>I die and we lose the match
>"hurr falstad so bad"

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Level 1 quest caps at 500
That's hitting heroes 2500 times.

If you got a 50 minute game, Zul'jin is your man.
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>>164845806
Maybe try not being bad next time?
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>>164845967
this is plat, everyone is bad.
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>>164845526
>Yfw HS a WarCraft card game did a better job at celebrating Diablo's anniversary than the third installment of said Diablo franchise.
>>
Zul'jin:

Did shit at AA build, so I tried Q build.
Did better than AA build, so I figured I'd try W build.
MUCH better than Q build.

Well fuck. I'm okay with this. W build is fun.
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>>164845806
People are retards.

I was playing ETC last night, and after feeding 3 times in the first few minutes trying to save my retard teammates on Eternal Battlefield, I decided to stop and just solo soak on a separate lane until I had ult because I can't do shit when Lt. Morales keeps healing the Zul'Jin and Valla and nobody bothers to help me stop any of the three from plinking the towers or team.

Pings and bitching all game about how I'm the reason we lost when our Anub'arak didn't land a single stun all game and our Falstad was so tunnel visioned on tower diving to fail to kill a Zarya, he let three 1 HP enemy heroes walk off long enough to reach their Morales who respawned and was walking back.

I'm the only one who push both lanes to the enemy core as fucking ETC while the enemy team fucked around the immortals all game because they were just as bad. We lost because teammate decided to gg push 3v5 without me or our healer and wiped at their core. Our core went 100-0 before they respawned. "it can't be helped, sometimes you get bad games cuz of etc like that.
I'm still mad.
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>>164846125
I don't believe there has been a more fitting moment to use this image than now.
>>
Isn't Diablo basically edgy Warcraft anyway?
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FUCK I JUST REALIZED THAT VALEERA WILL BE ANOTHER STEALTH HERO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>164845896
I lied
The icon below your health bar with still continue to count both stacks and damage increase but your attacks cap out at 771 when unboosted by health or trait.
Which is around 320-330 stacks.
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>>164846423
>Warcraft
>not edgy
The whole basis of the "plot" is that everyone is fighting everything all the time.
People die in droves in EVERY quest line.

Blizzard hasn't made a game that isn't edgy since Rock n' Roll Racing.
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>>164846241
The most fitting time is any time you get RNG'd to death.
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>be Thrall
>reach 10 before enemy
>watch them run away because BHURRRR ERTHQUAKE SCARY DUDURRRR
>pick 2 of them off with Sundering

hue hue
>>
Does Zul'jin talk to Nazeebo about his troll head? Only reason I will buy him
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>>164849572
When you kill Nazeebo he says "Maybe I'll carry around your head for a while now?" or something like that
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>>164849738
Good enough for me
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>>164831810
Why is Valve so bad at visual design?
>>
>>164850308
Valve just isn't good at making games.
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Hello guys, I've been out of the game for quite a few months (just before samuro's release) and I saw a pretty weird thing on Hotslogs.

There was no trace of Cho or Gall, but they are still in the game. Why? Are they reworking them?
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>>164850308
Because they don't make their own games anymore. Everything with dota 2 is made by some random studio and they use whatever fan content that wins polls
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>>164851754
Maybe it's something to do with the fact that Cho and Gall had different number of games played and different winrates
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>>164852082
That would make sense.
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>>164839903
>visual rework

he just looks lika a wow character
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>>164843565
sc1 characters were better
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>playing rag
>tyrande/diablo on enemy team
>take stun resistance
>diablo keeps focusing me anyway since I'm dealing 30% of my team's damage.
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>>164852871
>playing rag
>enemy sylvannis got all camps and pushing top while entire team is team fighting down below
>lava lane sylvannis lane thus deleting all her hard work to push a lane while I aid my team in the team fight
>>
We made it /hotsg/, she's coming!!

Now imagine D.Va being next, this game would be best waifus compilation.

The future looks bright, /hotsg/, very bright
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I won my last 2 games, but I'm up for demotion. Can someone explain this?
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>>164853706
>d.va
how can anyone like this gross disgusting piece of shit

For real waifus we need Ysera, Azshara and Cyadea.
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>>164852671
GTFO grandpa
I love SC2 characters, I remember playing Tychus and Raynor on a mission when I was a child.
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>>164853706
We're not going to get any tanks or supports for at least three more months. Especially not a gimmicky one like D.Va
It's all because of "The Armor Change"; they're rebalancing whole core of tanks-supports balance and they just now started with Arthas and Anub. So they won't release more until they are finished with existing ones.
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>>164853851
>gross disgusting piece of shit
What kind of monster says that about Hana?

>>164854132
It wouldn't surprise me if they already had that mind before they started designing new tanks.
It'ss gonna be about 2 months before the hero after Valeera gets released, so I'm sure it will be fine
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>thrall dying more often than me
>still complaining about me throwing
Shit man, just walk away from the computer
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>>164841860
Wait what leak. Whos the next hero?
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Well shit didn't think of that... makes a lot of sense
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>>164855335
Read the fucking thread. Or any thread since before Blizzcon...
It's Valeera, if still didn't figure it out
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>>164855335
>>164856186
Yeah this Bitch
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>>164856186
>>164856404
>latest leak
Give me a link.
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>>164856763
there is a tassadar rework leak explained in this thread
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>>164856763

didn't try reading the fucking thread then?
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>>164856892
>>164856974
With no source, which is what I'm looking for.
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>>164857542
google tassadar rework datamined
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>>164845486
>another sand nigger
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>>164857542

go read reddit if you just want it regurgitated for you
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>>164857542
jesus fucking christ

http://is.4chan.org/vg/1483745122111.png
http://is.4chan.org/vg/1483759651432.png

Guy leaked Varian, Rag, Zul'jin, Valeera and a bunch of other stuff 2 days before Blizzcon.
Literally everything gets released exactly in order guy wrote, next think should be Valeera
Yesterday someone catches Blizz putting a "Valeera screenshots" folder in their media press kit
Valeera confirmed next hero!
I hope you never reproduce those idiot genes of yours.
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>>164858001
>race made of pure magical energy that uses wrappings to bind them into shape
>sand nigger
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>>164838462
Valeera is going to be the first Hearthstone rep in Hots, with her abilities and talents based around rogue cards and more popular normal cards

you heard it here first
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>>164858345
>that second image
You people honestly believe that shit?
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>>164858414
Or, you know, WoW rogue abilities, like poisons, eviscerate, maybe ambush, vanish, etc.

Still no swirly ball, though.
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>>164842793
>OP as shit for 4 weeks just like a hero from the best franchise deserves

how come nobody is playing Zul'jin anymore then?
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>Valeera Trailer
>cutesy HS shenanigans
>sneaking
>disjointed drum beats start popping up
>video buffers
>and buffers
>freezes
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>yfw it was Belial taking everyone on a ruse cruise
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>>164858737
what?
>>
>release new gimmicky warcraft hero
>it instantly falls out of the meta and is played by literally no one

how bout they start making heroes that are relevant to the game they're gonna be IN
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>quit for 5 months because the matchmaking sucks cock
>start playing again
>matchmaking still sucks
huh
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>another literally who from warcraft
Gee thanks blizz!
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>>164858547
>getting cheap shot stunlocked and oneshotted with eviscerate
sounds really awesome...
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>>164859261
>poison selection for level 1 talents (crippling / wound / deadly)
>Stealth Trait
>Stealth Q - Garrote
>Stealth W - Ambush
>Stealth E - Cheap Shot
>Q - Kick
>W - Mutilate
>E - Eviscerate
>R1 - Kidney Shot
>R2 - Vanish

And a combo point system.
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>>164858737
>a new hero trailer
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>>164859029
Zul'jin is actually balanced on release, it's not a surprise people aren't flocking to him.
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did they actually get rid of the central US server too? Playing with a native 120 ping that randomly spikes to 400 is really fucking fun
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>>164860664
That sounds normal for their Ohio servers.
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>>164856892
>tassadar rework
>tfw his archon form is going to become as good as depicted in the LotV trailer
POWER
OVERWHELMING
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>>164861573
nah, they're connecting me to the western US servers despite the fact that I live in eastern Canada
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Why doesnt Valeera wear pants?
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>>164863118
Because she looks better without them
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>Another Warcraft hero.
>Another assassin.
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>>164863901
>most popular franchise
>most versatile class

lmao eat shit dumbass diablo pissbaby
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>>164859248
Look at the bright side anon, is not a diablo literally who like the last one.
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>>164863990
>Same three tanks and healers in every game.

Yeah that isn't boring at all.
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>>164863990
>most versatile class
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Stukov and Imperius next heroes after Valeera.

You heard it here first.
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>>164863901
nice reddit meme sir, updooted
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>>164864224
won't matter to me, I'm dropping this game when they release cardstone meme slut
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>>164864814
lmao diablo kids are sad.
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>>164863118
because she wants Varian to deep dick her

all high elves want to get HUMANED
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>people constantly leaving lanes empty
>people thinking Abathur can lane against an enemy hero
When will these idiots get filtered out of my games?
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>>164864924
>no starcraft hero during or after the supposed starcraft event
>just some more warcraft pandering with flavor of the month trash releases like blademaster

call me when they start making good heroes again
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>>164865196
You shouldn't come back because they are going to do more wc heroes eventually and you're going to bitch and quit again.
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>>164865009
I would like a nice female blood elf to use my dick
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The only Starcraft hero worth putting out is Firebat.

Nobody gives a shit about Diablo.
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>>164865427
>letting your titanforged seed get stolen by filthy mutant trolls
>>
is blizzard ever gonna stop balancing heroes around quickmatch shitters and reddit?
JESUS FUCK look at samuro right now
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>>164866665
>bwuuhu uuuhhh muh warcraft assassins
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>>164865536
>wanting firebat
>not hellbat
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>>164866938
>not wanting based Gui Montag
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>>164864124
Hello Paladia
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>>164866990
Starcraft units have names? wtf
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>>164866806
Like honestly unless you're autistic who gives a fuck about universe the heroes are from as long they are fun and relevant.
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>>164866806
enough with this shitty meme faggot
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>>164867186
some of them do, most of which are references to other things, because Blizzard
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>>164867308
what, do ASSASSINS from WARCRAFT rustle your jimmies?
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>>164866938
Well, firebat armor is cult classic
Oh wait, except it isn't because it looked completely diffferent in SC1. It looked like shit. Like most of SC1. Hellbat has the whole transformation gimmick while still being pretty much same thing. Could be fun in HotS
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>People are mad that a female blood elf is being added to the game.
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>>164867881
Yrel when
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>>164867881
should have been based Liadrin
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>>164867881
Is the gays obviously they are rampaging because of zj.
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>>164858737
That would take a level of self-awareness and cleverness that doesn't exist in the games industry these days.
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>>164867881
Because everyone wants this sexy xkeleton
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>>164868197
>that stupid shit
>self awarness and cleverness

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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>>164867946
>>164867910
There still needs to be another Paladin hero and it will be either Yrel or Liadrin.

Tirion can go fuck himself.
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>>164867881
It has more to due with the fact that there's at least four better suited rogues in Warcraft, those being Garona, the only truly important rogue in the entire series, Edwin VanCleef, a fanfavorite, Master Mathias Shaw, and Lord Jorach Ravenholdt.
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>>164867802
You know what's ACTUALLY fun and interesting? Warcraft, the only blizzard franchise that managed to both not be shit AND be an actual literal masterpiece of multi-media narrative and gameplay, with well fleshed-out characters and deep lore that isn't just "what if rednecks were in spess????" or "what if Conan the barbarian punched satan really hard????". It's only natural for Blizzard to acknowledge the failings of SC and Diablo by slowly phasing them out of their other games.
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>>164868390
>what if lord of the rings but with huge shoulderpads?
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>>164868293
KT is FUN and CUTE
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>>164868337
nah, it should be
>support Uther
>warrior Liadrin
>assassin Tirion
>specialist Yrel
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>>164868390
>Warcraft, the only blizzard franchise that managed to both not be shit AND be an actual literal masterpiece of multi-media narrative and gameplay, with well fleshed-out characters and deep lore

Why did you start out by talking about WoW, then move on to talking about something completely unrelated without naming it?
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>>164868492
>diablo babbus STILL this ass blasted
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>>164868565
and he's already in the game too
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>>164867426
fuck me i thought the shiposters now actually read the posts they reply to
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>>164868657
>Warcraft is only WoW
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>>164868870
for most people and most fans it is
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>>164868579
Not enough iconic spells are there?

Think even seperate melee assassin + prot is stretching it.

Spells I'm thinking of are consecration, wings and divine storm
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>>164868293
Lucia when?
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>>164867881
I personally don't care about another blood elf/another WoW character, since I've basically accepted that HotS is "Heroes of WoW and a few cameos."

I'm more annoyed we're getting a third assassin in a row, more depending if you count Varian or not.

Rag is good, but Zul'Jin has only been out for less than a week and his playrate has already hit "I forgot this champion even existed" levels, and I expect something similar to happen to Valeera unless she's busted on release.
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>>164868984
Starcraft and Diablo don't even HAVE fans so stfu
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>>164869052
Why is Lucia crying?
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>>164869130
because she realized she's a one-dimensional sexualised female character in a chinese moba knockoff
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>>164869093
they have fans but

diablo 3 is so shit they rather play D2, but it has nothing to offer after sooooo many years

Both SC and SC2 are RTS which is a niche genre nowdays
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>>164868995
Yrel should be based all around buffing, give her a generic AoE and a bunch of shields and buffs like Kings and Might
Liadrin could get consec, an altered version of Johanna's shield ult, and some sort of vision extension
then you just give Tirion all of ret's burst and that smashy stun thing as an ult
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is starcraft universe fun?
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>>164869447
That might work. Really I hope Yrel and Liadrin will be in, don't care about Tirion too much.

I want a female Draenei and Yrel seems to be the only one around.
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>>164870042
if you like shitty writing, bland non-characters and stale gameplay
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>>164856404
Can't wait, it's been a while since we got a waifu with her ass sticking out
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>>164870197
I don't really care about Tirion either, but I want a paladin assassin, and Tirion fits best. Yrel is hot sure, but she does basically nothing except get Maraad to die for her and then break rocks
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>>164870732
Yeah she isn't a big character but as I said I can't think of any other female Draeneis. Hell even male Draenei are hard to come by but at least there's Velen.
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>>164871238
there are a lot of "not big characters" in Hots
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>tfw master with 1500 points and still getting +33 personal adjustment

I seriously hope the game thinks you'd god's gift to hots too
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>>164870732
>but I want a paladin assassin, and Tirion fits best.
What about LEEROOOOOOY
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>>164872318
he was a healer m8, that's why he needed the Devout shoulders
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>>164872318
If they ever include this shitty meme hero I'll drop this game.
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>>164872420
I'm still not sure why Leroy Jenkins caught on the way it did considering the whole thing was fake.
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>>164872420
Valeera is already coming m8
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>>164872586
because it was one of the first entertaining machinimas?
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>>164872586
It was early days of the "modern internet".
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>>164872586
It was from a time when people weren't as cynical and picky about memes.
A more fun time.
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>>164843059
You guys got two maps last year.
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>>164869227
She's obviously two-dimensional though.
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>>164803131
When I face good DOT heroes like lunar or guldan, I go for W build.

Also, idiots don't know yet that those things go over walls and through buildings and shit. It's got a huge range so you can score super easy kills against people that run back to Well early game, and think they're safe because behind wall.
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>>164818163
Is this pokemon or digimon idk
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>>164821861
Kek I've probably played against you before then.

Lots of times I'll pick a backing hero, and only focus them for the rest of the game. All my abilities... my lamb.. all of it. No matter what.

Once killed a Nova 24 times just because she's a fucking faggot that plays Nova. I think I did 10+ times myself, but it was totally worthy the whispers she sent me after the game. And this was ranked HL

Instead of whining like a bitch, maybe learn how to counter pick and counter play? That should AT LEAST get you from bronze 5 to 4
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>>164871485
Diablo is a pretty big guy.
>>
>Gazlowe asks why you take Guillotine when he's Gazlowe
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>>164874015
Is funny because gaz is better than zj.
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>>164821861
Every dedicated Butcher player in high mmr hl is a salty fuck. More times than not I see them silenced.

Still like playing with them because based Tyrael works so well with Butcher.
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>>164874362
Based Tyrael also works well AGAINST Butcher.
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Is there a hero that feels less impactful than Tyrael? Other than meme heroes like Abathur.
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>>164874742
Johanna
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>tfw sitting on 34k gold
>want to buy more waifus
>but can't spend anything until the 2014 mount comes out
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>>164843665
I am using cable internet.
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>>164874608
Yeah, he counters him superhard.

Butcher charging into a santification just dies and Tyrael can peel Butcher real well from his teammates.
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>>164875004
Don't buy the 30k mount.
It's a scam to try and get people to spend their gold reserves before they announce something big.
Blizzard has done this with Hearthstone and they'll do it here.
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>>164875342
Don't forget Holy Ground being a No Butcher Zone.
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>>164875386
What was in HS?
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>>164875507
Based Tyrael.
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>>164875563
A Brawl that was pay 1000 gold (or $10) to try and win 12 standard meta games. Lose 3 times and you have to pay again and restart.
Note that unlike in HotS, 1000 gold is a steep cost. It was also in one of the worst metas the game has ever seen.

Shortly after, they announced their new card expansion. What a coincidence the card expansion was announced after the gold-depleting event.
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>>164875854
But expansions releases at cycle, everyone knowed about it. It was agro-sham meta?
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>>164875994
Midrange Shaman meta.
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>>164874742
Tyrael is a great hero and especially great in this meta as one of the few hard counters to EQ/BL/Apo shenanigans.
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>>164876051
Oh, 7/7 for 3 and evolution on cheap cards? I liked it because played shaman and warlock from beta
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>>164876113
I'm not denying Tyrael is a good hero.
He just doesn't feel like he does things.

KT isn't a good hero but everything he does feels like it does things.
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>>164874742
>Tyrael
>unimpactful
Great bodyblocking, better support for his team than half the supports, good dmg, amazing cc after 13 and especially 16. Insane teamfightwinning isolation in his q and one of the best playmaking and ass-saving ults there is in sancti.
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>>164876279
KT is a good hero and does things.
Tyrael has one of if not the best zoning skill in the game and an absolute match winning ult. If that feels like nothing to you, I dunno that's on you.
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>>164875386
But I don't have it so I don't have a choice for my autism.

I really regret not buying the Blackheart Dubloon mount a few weeks back. I forgot it wasn't permanent and then poof, it was gone forever.

Besides, other than the occasional random mount like this, what else can be bought with gold in HotS? I'm not spending 15k on new heroes, and all the master skins aren't time-limited.
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>>164876370
>>164876392
Visually/aurally Tyrael does not impactful.
The only thing that feels impactful is his shitty stun ult.

Tyrael does many impactful things but he doesn't FEEL like he does many impactful things.
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>>164876740
No, you're just an idiot with dumb, wrong feelings.
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>>164876537
>what else can be bought with gold in HotS?
Currently, not much.
But we did see that Loot tab a while back in a promo video so that might be breathing down our necks.
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>>164877274
Ehh.

If I can afford anything after I buy the 30k mount, I doubt 30k would've been enough to buy any new shit anyway.

We'll see.
This is all also assuming the 30k mount is actually happening.
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>>164876113
>one of the few hard counters to EQ/BL/Apo shenanigans.
BL and EQ outlast Sanct.

Gust is a far better counter since it actually facilitates a disengage. Sanct forces you to try and win a fight in 3-4 seconds.
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>>164877645
>sancti an eq
>thrall comes out dead because he doesn't get healing from anything and is standing in an enemy team
>sancti an apoc
>tyrael wins because he just traded the shorte cd against the longer
>sancti a bl
>rehgar team forced to disengage
>sancti all three
>you just win the teamfight because 1 ulti countered 3 and before sancti is gone you won decisively
Falstad makes you not lose, Tyrael makes you win.
I mean you still win with Fal because they just wasted cds but wiht Tyrael you just outright win.
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>>164877637
*Can't

I base this assumption off of how Blizzard does Overwatch pricing for event shit.

Triple the normal value in credits, and every event is like 36k total worth of gold in stuff. In comparison, you only get like 10-20 credits per loot box. That shit is the reason I stopped trying to grind Overwatch loot boxes.

HotS is more relaxed and casual and has no RNG outside of which quest you're getting, I like it. Less stress.
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>>164877645
>BL and EQ outlast Sanct.
Yeah and sanct also makes your team invulnerable
>Sanct forces you to try and win a fight in 3-4 seconds.
not exactly hard to get one or two pickoffs while youre invulnerable
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>>164877124
He's right though.
Almost everything Tyrael does is a lot more subtle and nuanced than most other heroes in the game.
To the untrained eye Tyrael just kinda floats around slapping people for measly damage with his stick (unless you go assassin Tyrael), makes some lights appear, and oops now I'm dealing no damage.

It's both a good thing and a bad thing.
It means that people disrespect Tyrael more until they learn exactly what he does, but it also means that he'll feel VERY underwhelming to people playing him until they learn the same.
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>>164878770
there is nothing subtle about a big fucking wall or aoe invulnerability
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>>164868565
do NOT lewd my husbando
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>>164878770
>when you chase some fuck down and he does the biggest mistake of his life that is throwing a spell at you
Based imposing on w
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On the subject of le angel man of no face:
Whats the best level 1 talent?
They all seem good.
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>>164879060
casting while dead
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>>164879060
Solo tank regen master
Bruiser better e
They have the most dive heavy team you ever seen you take shield on death
Casting while dead I have no fucking idea, I don't like that talent but probably when you double frontline and you're at risk of dying or can't go in liberally to hunt backline with your better e
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>>164879438
regen master doesnt do shit in burst meta
better e is poor value as you dont have the mana to spam it
shield on death never gets value

casting while dead means you actually hit your trait (which does significant damage but people forgot about that because it never hits without casting while dead)
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>>164880037
Regen master is good because it lets you soak dmg more liberally, kinda like a poor man's Muradin and it makes you a lot more tanky. In lategame fights where you trade evenly and survive for quite a bit it gets a lot of value.

Better E is good dmg, makes your laning better and lategame you don't have any mana issues anyways. Makes hunting down backline so much easier.

Shield on death I'd been with you but I've seen this talent work real well in a game of mine. I'd only pick it in the most extreme of cases, say against a melee only team but it can win not only fights but games.

All his talents have a place.
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>>164880349
yeah and for three of them that place is the dumpster
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>>164880528
GM rather.
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What would Kel'Thuzad's skillset be? What would his unique playstyle be? Considering Sylvanas has Mind Control
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>>164880871
KT never had mind controlling abilities, not sure why you bring that up.
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>>164878871
Tyrael does not have a big fucking wall.
Holy Ground makes his little dinky sword have a ring around it.
There's no super flashy effects or meaty sound effects.
Just circles on the ground.

This is what is meant by "feeling non-impactful". There's little auditory/visual feedback to the things Tyrael does which both leads to people disrespecting the things he can do and makes him feel underwhelming to new players.

He's a good hero, he just lacks "oomph" on his skills. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just makes him feel underwhelming and non-impactful to people playing him for the first few times.

It's probably also why his stun ult is much more popular in lower skill areas, because it FEELS like it does things. You get a great crashing sound effect, people get thrown away, there's an explosion. It feels good and fun to use, even if it's not actually good.

That's also why The Hunt is a more popular ult for Illidan down there too. You get a voice line, you go flying across the map at the speed of sound, there's a loud crash, your target is left at your mercy.

Of course the EPIC PICK-OFF PLAYZZZ aspect to both ults also contribute to their popularity but it's also about the feedback you get from using the skills. They feel good to use.

>inb4 hurr only autists care about flashy lights and powerful sound effects
Visual/Sound Design is a very important thing that gets taken for granted by the consumer.
Hell, Visual/Sound Design is a major factor in Hearthstone's continued success, digital card games were an already a fairly small market but Hearthstone has the combined force of brand loyalty, Sunk Cost fallacy, and a level of design quality that competitors have failed to match.


tl;dr Tyrael's skills have little visual/auditory flair (moreso auditory than visual) which isn't necessarily a bad thing but it does make it seem like he doesn't do much for new/low-skill players.
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>Come back after a year
>Every single person in my games speaks in Spanish

So when did this community die?
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>>164881005
Because his WC3 skillset is shitty and at most they will keep frost armor and sacrifice, and he only ever had one ultimate so they'd need another one. Stop being a faggot contrarian and make friends
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>>164880871
Well he'd definitely have Frost Armor and Death and Decay.
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>>164880871
Specialist probably. Good assassin dmg with some support abilities and a good sieging ult in Death and Decay

Maybe have him kill his own minions for mana.
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Is Rag still worth getting after the nerf?
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>>164881181
>and he only ever had one ultimate so they'd need another one
Detonate Mana from WoW. Basically mana burn that deals aoe damage around the target.
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>>164881242
So you do play something other than gaz

QM so who cares
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>>164881379
Hasn't Blizzard said they hate the idea of mana burn in HotS?
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>>164881536
I don't know.
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>>164881373
Yes.
He's still a better Xul in most scenarios, has really strong poke with W build, can 1v5 teams that don't respect him with Q build, and can singlehandedly close EXP gaps with Lava Wave.
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>>164869052
After Shade.
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Heartstone waifu when?
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>>164881397
Got assreamed :(
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Why are people so bad at this game? And, you try to lead them, you try to teach them kindly, and they just retaliate like "stop typing, nobody cares". I will never understand this about MOBAs. You tell somebody they suck dick and need to sit in a corner in a modern FPS (NOT overwatch) and they will actually do it. In a MOBA, you say "EXcuse me friend, but would you kindly, if you want, it's okay if you dont, please refrain from being so aggressive? You are dying a lot and it is hurting our chances" and the entire team goes REEEEEE STOP STOP STOP STAAAAAAAAAAHP TYPING REPORTED FUCK YOU
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>>164884208
>Someone does something incredibly retarded
>Ask them to start grouping up, or ask them why they did that, or generally tell them they have to be more safe because XYZ
>"lol like it matters we already lost anyway im just having fun"
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>>164884208
I would be like them too but I don't know how to report people.

Still can't find any in-game menu that lets me report someone.
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>guy playing like an absolute asshat
>try to get them to group up like the enemy team always is
>"you are literally trash"
>ask him his rank
>stfu fucking idiot
>I'm way better than you
>ask his rank
>S T F U
>check his rank
>never been ranked before in his life
>this happens
This is why this community is so fucked.
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>>164885662
see the cog icon on the right? >>164883462

click that
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>>164883354
At earliest January 31st. But I'd bet Feb 7th
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>>164881015
I honest to god like The Hunt better even if it's worse in teamfights simply because of the global aspect on level 20.
Hearthing and being back in action real fast is absolutely invaluable, and the low cooldown means you can use it liberally.
It works great if your enemy team has that one autistic splitpusher, or tends to roam in smaller groups, as long as full blown 5vs5 teamfights are rare, The Hunt is just too good to pass up on.
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>>164886070
>going to the trouble of shit talking someone after the match has ended
Ive never understood why people do this
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>>164887365
Snackisfaction of getting the finalitastic last word in.
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>the one time i encounter an enemy chogall in QM
>it's on braxis so chogall's soak weakness is null
>it's when we have no cc so chogall's cc weakness is null
>and it's when we have no fucking damage so chogall is literally unkillable
>>
on the topic of paladins in hots

if they plan on adding more

then they should be

maraad, tirion. thats all. liadrin is shit and we already have too many elves, and she's a hearthstone unlock hero so even less likely. yrel is 1 expansion character and of the worst expac. :)

oh and also pre frostmourne arthas. would make a really good bruiser :)
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>>164889212
SUNWALKER DEZCO WHEN
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>>164887365
Are you fucking blind? He was the one shit talking.
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>>164889430
hopefully never. and i hope your whole family dies from cancer because of your post. tauren in plate armour are so fucking ugly and untraditional, esp sunwalker dezco in his tirion-looking gear.

tauren heroes that should be allowed for hots

cairne
magatha
spirit walker or w/e from wc3
maybe some guy from legion

thats all
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>>164890336
enjoy your ban
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>it's another let's just fight all game till we loose it

WHY Just someone explain me WHY retards just keep fighting. Just want to fight. All the game they stay and try to fight
My game was basically :


>get kills
>we have an extra level
>I call for retreat and ping for camps so they have to clean lanes when the nukes appears
>I go to do the camps
>my team didn't moved, just stayed there fighting despite guldan isn't here
>4 death on my team
>enemies go top to do the boss
>they do it
>I ping for defense
>I defend so we don't loose a keep
>my team go behind the boss to chase them instead of defending
>we still have a keep
>my team dies because they went too far


Why people always wants to fight ?
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>2017
>top1 orc in all works of fiction
>best blizzard character
>still not in the game

why am i still playing this SHIT? i started it in alpha hoping to see him !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC-ol6xY5zQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo0xebL7JdY (wotlk... thats the expac when you realize garrosh is the orc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz3d3_4ij-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1xN5FWwlAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klB6IAfNKmw (really cool intro in this music, you can just hear the nobility of garrosh's ways, even though they will be his end, he keeps doing the right thing with all odds against him...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXVtpOHQqvY


epic moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slzQOyS5TqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AlnE16-2NI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULaFQwfEy2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEylX2LJ8c4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i070qRYq0tQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUeGeAqU-Rc (rlly cool soldier of the true horde)

???

time to hit the gym for the true horde
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>>164891615
>be ahead
>try to force hard
>enemy take the fight
>lose because some fuck is off doing mercs instead of solidifying our advantage
>he defends boss when we can fucking wipe them and get so far ahead a dead keep won't matter
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>>164891615
>>164892493
because people are stupid and are only capable of thinking 2 seconds ahead of them
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>>164891914
Reported for Nazi
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>lag
>frame rate drops to 0 for about 10
>disconnect for a minute
>take five to get back in
>bot picked talents for me
>they're shit

>>164886264
Brilliant. I'll check back next month.
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>>164892902
But you playing Gaz, so get 9 reports from load screen
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>last diablo hero was auriel few months ago
>only 3 diablo heroes in 2016
>4 warcraft heroes in a row
>Diablo 20th anniversary
>we got another warcraft hero

At this point they are admitting Diablo 3 was just some world of warcraft tier shit right ?
>>
Boy, is having an ability that basically consigns instant, undodgeable death to someone is sure fair and balanced.
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>>164892902
they should permit to re-roll a talent on the next 5 seconds in case you miss clicked.
And we should be permitted to define a build that bots will pick while we're disconnected. Alternatively he looks for our latest build or most frequent build
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>>164893171
And what are you talking about?
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>>164893057
He's actually pretty okay, especially at low MMR.

>>164893338
Agreed. A "refund" or "Whoops" period would be appreciated.

>>164893562
Talents. Picking the wrong one can easily fuck your match.
Also disconnecting and leveling up causes the bot to pick talents for you, which can be even worse.
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I wonder if Blizz is gonna add a character made famous by Hearthstone like Dr. Boom or Aya Blackpaw
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>>164893562
>>164893757
One of Kael's Rs. Then again I'm salty because I just don't know how the fuck to play any Specialists other than Gazebo so playing anyone else is just spelling doom for me.
I only started playing again a few days ago, and I don't know how the fuck to play Sylvanas
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>>164893757
But we cant deny memes and say "gaz is good pick" even if he is
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>>164893338
>>164893757
Refund period sucks and wont come because it would mean you could be in the middle of a fight, pick one talent thats good for this very fight, and then switch after you got value from it.

>well just disable talents until after the refund period
sucks because instant talents are important
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>>164893757
I'm referring to "instant, undodgeable death"
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>>164893886
Hearthstone lore is better than WoW lore as far as I'm concerned.

Rafaam, The League of Explorers as a kind of Lost Vikings hero, Kazakus, and Aya Blackpaw would all be dope.
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>>164893886
>Aya Blackpaw
another li li?
how about your whole family gets euthanized instead?
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>>164893991
in 5 seconds you would be able to benefit from a talent on a fight and switch to another one within those 5 seconds ?
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>>164893991

Yeah, that's the problem. It seems like there would be a lot of spaghetti flying around with passives, actives, whatever.

>>164894010

Whoops, thought you responded to the other thinger.

>be kael
>press pyro
>squishy without immunity dies
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>>164894010
>>164893898
>>164894215
What that guy said.
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>>164894051
Hey shes not Li Li shes an older Li Li
At any rate I was just naming a few off the top of my head. There are other characters made famous by Hearthstone like Jaraxxus, Reno Jackson or Kazakus
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>>164894215
>>164893898
As a frequent kael player I will agree, pyroblast is stupid and I frequently cast it on a squishy with no immunity as soon as they hit 90% or less hp to guarantee their death.
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>>164891914
Garrosh did nothing wrong
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>>164894327
Like, it has tons of counters. Plenty of people misuse them, though.

>wait for counter to get used
>pyro squishy
>squishy dead for sixty seconds

Sort of like Butcher and blinds. Just wait for Johanna and Li-Li to press E before branding or going in.

Do keep in mind that both of these become more difficult to pull off as you climb in rank/mmr, but there's usually a window.
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>>164892493
>he defends boss when we can fucking wipe them and get so far ahead a dead keep won't matter
let's see...
>all defend boss
>our keep stay intact
>no catapult constantly pushing our core
>we are all full life and mana, can take both of our camp and be ready for a tf during the warhead event.

vs

>chase
>boss take the keep
>somehow we manage to take 2 or 3 kills, 4 max and probably loose 1 guy of our team
>we can't do anything since we don't have nukes, sylvanas and are all low life/mana
>we spend the rest of the game having to clear top lane


I wonder what's the best idea!
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>>164893886
>>164894037

>>164845486
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>>164895517
>chase
>get either a level advantage that makes you stay ahead for a long while, possibly winning the game
or
>deathtimer so long you can get a keep and/or maybe core right then and there
What I'm saying is there's no right or wrong. Your team does something as 4 you should stick with them.
>>
>reno jackson in hots
>6 health
>autos do 4 damage
>occasionally shits waves of healing if there aren't multiples of a character in game (rip abathur)

seems like a bad character desu
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>>164868351
alright, I'd 100% prefer VC over valeera even though i love valeera as a character
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>still no shotgun hero

Feels unsatisfying.
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>>164896928
Please for the love of god don't put in any shitty fucking memestone meme heroes
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>>164897170
meme
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>>164897170
too late they're already adding valeera :^)
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>>164896969
>Ultimate: Lapdogs, all of you!
>spawns a bunch of Defias Pillagers
>HUH
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>>164894494
>>164894636
I just don't know what the fuck to do.
Or how the fuck to play literally any Specialist.
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>>164897504
Play people with invulns or cleanses like Medivh / Nazeebo / Auriel / Samuro / Tracer

The only other option is to run the fuck out of the cast radius before does it
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>>164897504
What, against Pyroblast?

How often are you bumping into people taking it, and what have you been playing?
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Opinions on kinkybug changes?

shit feels sweet yo
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>>164897827
Meh.

Pushes him further into his anti-ap role, which is sort of fine, I guess.

Still wish he could be played as the "main tank", but he just seems useless against any form of right-click.
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>>164897170
Not even this cool motherfucker?
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You guys weren't kidding about Tyrael being fun.

>diving into the enemy team for JUSTICE
>whacking them non-stop while they can't hurt me
>slashing the ground 24/7 for infinite teammate move speed boosts
>if teammates are good at following up from all my slows and isolation, the enemy team is always low HP or dead
>keep whacking and they eventually stop fighting back because they're scared of the holy nuke going off in their face, especially the Chromie that I keep focusing because she's the one actually dealing damage to us
>Abathur: "I have ult gogogo"
>double-teaming with the clone all day like it's a buddy cop movie
>enemy Chen keeps getting fatter but eventually we start outlasting him
>nuke their tanks even though they're at half HP
>in the end they keep getting the Punisher but Abathur keeps taking their towers
>repeat for 30 minutes because even with a Punisher they can barely take a tower before it dies
>end with 44% of team's teamfight damage
>Abathur ends with 220k siege damage
Would've liked having a healer but oh well.

Holy shit that was fun.
First time noticing an Abathur having an impact on the game too.
>>
>5 minutes just to get in a ranked game
>ban/picks take 5 minutes
>10 minutes just to play
>lose or win really badly

no wonder nobody plays ranked
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>>164890336
OMG magatha yes PLEASE. holy shit. would she be a specialist?
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>>164898415
Based Tyrael
Based El'druin
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>>164897662
I'm freshly-returning and didn't play much the first go. I only own ETC, Arthas, Diablo, Azmodan, Nazeebo, and Jaina.
I didn't even know Nazeebo had a cleanse. And I can never even spot him casting the thing in a fight.
>>164897819
Almost every game I'm in there's a Kael on at least one of our teams, and they pick Pyroblast 9 times out of 10.
And at the moment, just whoever, but I only seem to have a particular problem with the skill when I play squishies. Which I have to since I have a quest for Specialists.
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>>164898968
>I didn't even know Nazeebo had a cleanse.
He has Ice Block.
But Superstition is just as good for shrugging off Pyroblasts.
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Where he @?
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>>164891914
Heh, greetings
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>want to buy abathur on smurf
>he's still 10,000 gold

frig
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>>164898415
I wish I could pick Judgement more often. Shit if fun as fuck
Sanct better ult though
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Looking through my HL games I won every game that Diablo was on my team and lost 7 out of 9 he was on the enemy team, since last week

Tips on how to play against him?
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>>164900358
ban him
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>Faye lives in a literal closet

feels bad man, I kinda wanna buy her a nice flat now
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>post a character
>next poster makes fast hero concept of it (even if they are unfamiliar with the char), posts next character
>continue

i make concept for >>164899272 since no1 b4 me
next poster = my picrelated

>imperius
assassin

Q - short range cone. telekinetic pull enemies to himself. reactivate to strike with spear for dmg
W - crash down onto enemies, big dmg. long range and cooldown
E - target enemy is silenced for short-medium duration. they can break the silence but then they take damage
D - CC durations against him lower with less health he has, passive burning rage
R - expose evil... who knows what it does?
R2 - purge... who knows what it does?
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>>164800448

>New Brawl
>5 li-ming enemy team
>5 guldan enemy team
>4 li-ming and medivh enemy team

Welp I remember why I quit this game, and it's because even in the fun mode, this shit isn't getting any more fun.

Can't win, can't enjoy myself, so it's just disguised koreagrind
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Headhunter is going to be one of those talents that no one ever picks but is actually the best one on that tier because it isn't glamorous
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>>164901703
>brawl
>fun mode
Only fun modes are TL and HL

Brawl is QM level shit
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>>164902390
>HL
>fun
>>
>>164902458
>HL
>not fun
Maybe if you're NA. High level EU is tons of fun and so are Korea and China probably
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>>164902390
>hots solo queue
>fun

lmao
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>>164902578
>thinks he's high level korea
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>>164902651
I spelled it out for you anon, I'm EU.

>>164902593
It's tons of fun.
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>>164902593
better than anything else this piece of shit game offers anyway
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>>164903006
true i suppose

surprised they added solo queue desu this game seems like such a mess without proper coordination

how is team league is it a shitstorm of gms getting matched against silver players
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>>164826787
kujnt
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why is it that every FUCKING VARIAN I GET ON MY TEAM GOES FAGGOT MEMEBLADES EVERY FUCKING TIME FUCKING ESPECIALLY WHEN OUR TEAM HAS 0 WARRIORS JESUS FUCK
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>>164903783
My self proclaimed Varian-Main best friend is convinced that fury is his best build and only goes tank when I pressure him to. I haven't ever seen him use CS in a real game either. Oh, and he almost never takes warbringer.
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>>164902359
its a shame, cause you want meme? is just so much better. headhunter is cool and unique
>>
Just got Rexxar, pretty fun but how should I build him ideally? His talents seem mostly focused on the bear, do I just take all the bear stuff?
>>
How good is Zarya? She seems like a lot of fun, even if her grenades are just...eh.
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>>164904043
for the sake of science what's his rank

>>164904307
she's still excellent, i think. just play her like an off-tank and off-support
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>>164902845
>thinks he's high level EU
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>>164904531
I literally am.
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>>164904562
>still thinks he's high level EU
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>>164904307
Bad solo tank, amazing off-tank.
Pretty underrated right now.
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>>164904307
oh forgot to mention make sure you're eating damage with your W and E

because you don't really do any otherwise
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>>164904467
He's unranked.
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>>164904294
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/57-rexxar#MUTURULU7TEUPU5AA

talents that should never be picked unless u are low rank

boars is shit but u can pick it, but then u lose

level 1: flare
level 4: everything else
level 7: q
level 13: if stun misses
level 16: aspect, feign death
level 20: everything is good

rexxar is a niche hero that is about winning the solo lane, thats his only role. doing camps is wasting time on him, there are better heroes for that
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>>164904294
He has amazing talent viability.
>1
Regen Master, block if misha solo tank.
>4
Hungry bear if Braxis or Dragonshire sololane.
Easy prey on most maps if you do a reasonable amount of mercing.
Crippling talons for teamfights if neither of those first two applies. Normal on Tomb.
>7
Blood if you need a REAL tanky bear, that's some solotank shit were they actually go for your bear or you need big sustain on her to stick her on backline.
Aspect for teamfighting. It's the normal choice if you don't need Bird.
Bird of Prey for mercing and really strong push. Standard on most maps.
>10
Hell I don't know, I always do it seeing the enemy comp. You can probably stick with either and do fine. They're both good.
>13
Wildfire except if your bear is solotank and needs real strong sustain, then pick Barkskin.
>16
Primal if they have autoattackers and you don't need feign. Feign if you get collapsed on or need it to evade some heavy-hitting shit. Have to say against Tracer I still usually pick primal.
Aspect if you need neither.
>20
Usually hardened, if you don't need sustain get frenzy or if you picked boars then the boar upgrade.
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>>164905307
>>164905378
Thanks, these are both pretty helpful! I figured he would be niche but I really like "pet" characters and figured I should try to pick him up.
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>>164905553
He's very fun. On Braxis he's amazing, fp material and on Dragon Shire he's very good too.

Other maps not so much but still pickable. I like him on Tomb.
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>>164905765
>Rexxar is FP material
>ever
In low ranks maybe.
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>>164905843
70%+ winrate on both Braxis and 60%+ on DS firstpicking Rexxar at 3.4k mmr on EU last season.
>>
>1 level advantage
>half-health Artanis with everything on cooldown still 1v1s an Arthas with everything off cooldown from full
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>>164905843
>>164906113
Exact stats. 75% winrate with Rexxar between 3.3 and 3.4k-

79% on Braxis, 68% on DS picking Rexxar every chance I get on those two maps.

And if you're the anon earlier saying specific talents are bad.
Easy Prey, Bird of Prey, Unleash the Boars, Aspect of the Hawk and Feign Death. I have at least a 50% winrate with any of those.Hell 50% is Bird of Prey, everything else is 65% at least.
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>>164906608
>trading with Artanis
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>>164894464
She's actually not older. That's why she's a valley girl.
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>>164906675
>aspect of the hawk
How effective is that? And why do you pick it?
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>>164907116
It's ok. Pick it when there's nothing else I need so only in very niche situations.It does good dmg.
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>>164906731
Her age is ambiguous but she has some breasts so I'd say shes older. Like 14 or so idk how pandas age
>>
Top 10 Master Skins:
1) Cho'Gall
2) Chromie
3) Jaina
4) ETC
5) Auriel
6) Muradin
7) Kael'Thas
8) Greymane
9) Lunara
10) Xul

Worst of the Worst:
1) Tracer
2) Zarya
3) Kerrigan
4) Arthas
5) Illidan
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>>164909045
>tyrael and rexxar not among the best
>kerrigan is bad
>>
>>164909209
Kerrigan is the epitome of Blizzard's "Master Skin gives you a toilet for a helmet." design ethos
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>>164909045
>greymane is not 1

shit list tbqh (to be quite honest)
>>
Should I buy Butcher or Lunara?
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>>164909298
That's Illidan, Diablo, Leoric, Arthas and Chen
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>>164907474
Well shes also a crime lord so Id imagine she has to be an adult. Nobody respects kids. She'd get Arcanite Reaper'd before she ever rose to the top.
>>
>>164909045
>no vikings
speaking of which vikings rework when
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>>164909045
when will you DUMB FUCKS learn that it's Kael'thas, not Kael'Thas? Cho'gall, not Cho'Gall. Zul'jin, not Zul'Jin. fucking stupid pieces of useless subhuman shit, go back to league and peddit
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>>164910396
lmao u mad
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>>164909981
She didnt need age she has an army of jade golems. She got to her position of power by killing off her family
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Aya_Blackpaw
>Last predecessor was crushed to death
>Last heir of the wealthy Blackpaw family
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>>164897057
One of these days.
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>>164910396
Imagine living your life like this.
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>>164910396
>go back to rebbit
irony

>go back to league
what
>>
>>164911271
>Spontaneously summons a wall to duck behind, becoming completely invincible for as long as he wants until he comes out and blasts someone's face off
When
>>
>>164909981
She calls the other crimelords stuff like Kazzie. The brawl made it clear she's intended to be surprisingly young.
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>>164890336
plate is the only armor class that tauren don't look like garbage in though

get some taste and then kill yourself
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>>164876196
4 mana 7/7 overload 2.
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>>164911415
>league
Cho'Gath

>>164912017
die from cancer please ASAP
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>>164912919
so what you're saying is that you want a barechested minotaur to give you a solid deep-dicking? Sounds pretty gay dude
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>>164912919
>all tauren look like garbage

Thanks for clearing that up.
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>>164913205
Agreed. By far the most uninteresting race in every aspect. They could literally disappear as a whole and there'd be next to no difference. And it was honestly take me a while to realise.
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>>164913527
t. Dargrul
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Things to be fixed in Zul'jin:

Guillotine base damage or damage scaling buff, falls faster.

A little extra baseline range, or just make You Want Axe? much easier to complete, so you don't have to wait until 20 minutes in for the fucking thing.

Taz'dingo cooldown reverted and/or make it usable while stunned.

Headhunter able to get credit even after death, as long as you participated in the kill.

Make the hitbox slightly bigger on Twin Cleave, a lot of the times the outer edge of the blade cut the enemy hero but it doesn't register as a hit, seems kind of funky.

He honestly just needs a few QoL buffs, otherwise he's perfectly fine.
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>>164914123
Oh yeah, and increase his fucking mana pool or reduce costs because goddamn. Or at least build in reduced mana cost for W build.
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>>164913259
somebody pop this lad's cherry 'fore he pops an anyeursm
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>>164914123
>Headhunter able to get credit even after death, as long as you participated in the kill.
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>>164913259
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>>164915430
>be on the same screen as somebody dying
>get """assist"""

I do sort of wish it required you to either tag the player (damage or utility/cc) or provide healing/utility to allies in combat with them.
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>>164913259
is this what happens when a furry gets deprived of bull cock for too long?
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>>164915361
>>164915620
>>164915951
3 replies from the same guy at the same time woohoo wowweeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>164916142
are we gonna waggle our willies now?
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So regarding valeera, I have an important question.
On a scale from 1 to Li ming, how slutty is she?
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>>164916710
Tyrande
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>want to play leo

>know in the end ill do better and have more fun as diablo dekaka or muradin
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>>164915430
Yeah, when I do like 80% of some guy's health and then die because Zul'jin is pretty short ranged and easy to just dive, stun and burst, I want to actually be able to get progress towards the quest that promotes me going out and hurting people.
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>chink stream doesn;t work

kek
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How much longer is this game going to last, /hotsg/? They're slowly churning out those heroes who've been on the back burner for God knows how long.
Are they just going to finish and release these and then tell us they'll stop working on new content?
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>>164917302
I don't think it'll die any time soon, but it certainly isn't going anywhere.

>back burner heroes

At least there's a reasonably steady stream of "new" stuff to occasionally check back on.
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>>164917302
It isn't dying anytime soon for sure.
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>>164917302
HOTS isn't going to die you retards and the game has had consistent support with no interruptions since it launched.

Yeah, it's player base is minuscule compared to League and Overwatch. It still has a massive user base compared to 98% of other online games that see regular support.
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>>164919061

>esports teams pulling out
>pro players quitting
>less available streamers
>bots added to brawl
>QM and unranked draft takes a long time to find game
>HL is now soloq
>nobody plays team league
>varian, zuljin and now valeera - blizzard are adding characters that have bigger fanbases
>overwatch event
>took them one year to implement brawl mode
>half a year they said something about tassadar rework
>4+- months ago they said leoric rework soon
>they didnt do jack shit throughout christmas and new year, and the latest patch we got was small
>cant into balance so they implement "armor"
>look at how long it took them to fix raynor bug

just get cancer faggot
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>>164885924
Right after Valeera. Just for more lulz from diablo-fans
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>>164919458
I like how you immediately ran out of actual things to complain about by the 3rd green text, but don't let me interrupt your diap out.
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>>164858449
you're honestly that in denial?
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How can I be so bad at Malf? Why why why why.
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>>164894464
>made famous by hearthstone
>jaraxxus
wtf lol
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>getting a Tassadar solo support vs a real healer is still a guaranteed loss
>it's still allowed to happen
great game
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So what do you guys think Valeera's kit is going to look like?

Almost positive she's going to be an assassination rogue and stealth won't be apart of her kit outside of maybe like Vanish as a talent.

Trait: Poisons. Level 1 talents let you pick your poison, Crippling/Wound/Deadly.
Q: Mutilate: Instant melee attack that injects the poison you picked. Grants a combo point.
W: Rupture: Bleed that deals damage based on how many combo points you have.
E: Shadowstep: Instantly blink behind your opponent with an increased move speed.
R1: Cloak of Shadows: Immune to all ability damage and roots/slows for a few seconds.
R2: Vendetta: Makes a target of your choice immediately revealed and Vulnerable. Medium range.
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>>164921539

>Wait until somebody else lands CC to use E
>Zone with E, or place in choke points
>W to check bushes
>W to reveal Nova, Zeratul and Samuro
>W to clear minions with talent at 1, not sure if good post-nerf
>Q heal things
>Give the guy reliant on abilities the D

I don't know. Malfurion. Other than that just position probably and get in basic attacks whenever you can.

>>164921987

No, it isn't.

Depends somewhat heavily on picks/comp, though.

Usually the Tassadar doesn't fit, sucks and loses, to your credit.
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>>164922172
>>164921987
Amusingly enough, me losing as Malf vs. a solo Tass comp was what made me post my whiney post about being bad at Malf.
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>>164921759
I don’t really care that much if we are getting bombarded by Warcraft characters, but if jaraxxus gets in the game before Kil'jaeden or Archimonde… it will be a sad day for me
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>>164919458
>>esports teams pulling out
>pro players quitting

Holy shit, thank god. E-sports are fucking cancer. The rest is just a bunch of personal opinion/observation crap.

>just get cancer faggot
Oh okay, I know the kind of person you are. Opinions and personal observations discarded.
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>>164922545
they should add Thal'kiel before any of those bandwagoning cucks
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>>164922546
>Holy shit, thank god. E-sports are fucking cancer. The rest is just a bunch of personal opinion/observation crap.

The hots scene is far from dead I mean, Chu just came back from a huge reunion in the blizzard HQ in cali, literally all the players from the last tournament where there.
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>>164922545
I think I'd prefer Jaraxx purely because they will probably make him a gimmicky character with Wilfred.

I get that memey characters with gimmicks are most people's bag, but I love them. We have a buttload of demons that attack with fire and shit.
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>>164922598
>Thal'kiel
So he was the king of eredar and Archimonde killed him when he was good?
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>>164922772
he was the first eredar warlock, when he showed Kil'jaeden and Velen fel magic, they were horrified and had him stripped of all of his authority. So he vowed revenge, made a pact with Sargeras and started summoning demons to Argus. His apprentice Archimonde betrayed him to Kil'jaeden, who had him killed before he could unleash his army, then appointed Archimonde to sit as the third leader of Argus as a reward. Archimonde then took Thal'kiel's skull as a trophy and magical focus, which eventually drove him to join the Legion himself when Sargeras arrived
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>>164922772
Yeah, a powerful literally who that got gangbaged by the bandwagoning cucks
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>>164923039
What is it with the Legion and having apprentices kill betray their masters? And then having warlock skulls be focuses for power?
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>>164922683
This
They can add Dreadlords,Pit Lords and Ereder as much as they like but if they add Jaraxxus I hope it's some meme thing with Wilfred
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Post intro line you wanna hear eventually
>"I COME FROM THE DARKNESS OF THE PIT"
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>>164923382
Minions, servants, soldiers of the cold dark! Obey the call of Kel'Thuzad!
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What is the best website to veiw Li Li porn
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>>164923789
http://www.mps.gov.cn/
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>the forest does not need protection, but you do
what did she mean by this?
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>>164923227
that actually rarely happens, Gul'dan just told Ner'zhul to fuck off, and most people who try to usurp their master fail

and they use skulls because they look cool and usually get filled with magic

>>164924871
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>>164924871
source me bro
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Lewd Li Li where?
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>Play QM
?5 stack on the other team
>Tigerjk, iDream, K1pro and friends

>Two games later
>Another 5 stack circlejerk team that I know for a fact uses voice comms as well

Epic. Simply epic.
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>>164925350
In Hell where you belong, pedo furfag degenerate.
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>>164925390
uhhhhhhh, if you get matched against stacks you have a much higher MMR so you're actually guaranteed a win

>>164925350
right here
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>>164926449
>uhhhhhhh, if you get matched against stacks you have a much higher MMR so you're actually

You can have the highest mmr in the world and it will not fucking matter if your team is a bunc hof solo queuers with mismatched heroes vs. a 5 stack on voice comms, that planned out their whole comp. What the fuck is so hard to understand about how bullshit that is?
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>>164858737
They should do it with a hero released around aprils fools

>>164859015
Belial is the lord of lies in Diablo universe
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>>164927114
>You can have the highest mmr in the world and it will not fucking matter if your team is a bunc hof solo queuers with mismatched heroes vs. a 5 stack on voice comms, that planned out their whole comp. What the fuck is so hard to understand about how bullshit that is?
you're just bad lmao, you should have been able to carry them
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>>164927504
ebin
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>>164858737
>tfw still no Terokk
I bet the adherents are responsible for this
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>>164927628
That was one funny week.
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>>164927712
I'm still mad
fuck Dehaka
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>>164927504
>carrying
>communism: the moba

Good one.
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>>164924871
Cute deer!
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Why is it always the worst, lowest rank person on the team who bitches the most?
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>>164929238
because they're being held down by shitty team mates like you
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>>164929276
nobody wants to hold that person down

ohhhh shit
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>zul'jin has subpar winrate
>blizzard buffs twin axe talents because they are shit
>he becomes most balanced hero in the game

how does it feel
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>>164931227
bad that Greymane is still nerfed for no reason
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How do we fix Li Li?

I like her aesthetics but she's so boring to play. They need to give her at least one skillshot or something.
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>>164931982

I'm fine with Li Li being the "no skill shot at all" positioning based hero, but she needs more numbers to cope with the fact that she can't control her heals without burying her face in whoever's ass she want's to heal/blind.

She's simply undertuned and her talents suck, she's only situationally good against heavy AA teams, and even then if they have one targeted stun on the enemy team it's almost not even worth it because she can be deleted in an instant and interrupted at all times.

She needs a rework along with Uther to just reinvent her talent choices, because right now they are shitass.
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convince me to not buy this skin during the next weekly sale
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>ywn have a gf as cute and fun as Lunara
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>>164931982

Ake her serpent heal baseline, make her jugs work on up to two people baseline, and make her winds effect all enemies in range.

Also make Water Dragon continuously slow that target for the duration, but not as much as the actual splash slows for.
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AI doesn't know how to deal with poly bomb
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>>164934919
Auriel is pure.

PURE!
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>tfw Lunara's E will always be a glorified 1
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>>164935426
pure slut maybe
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Is Guilltine just not worth it at all? Never feels like it. Then I try Taz'dingo, and it just feels like "Oh okay, so they have stuns, so this is useless as well."
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>>164939496
Guillotine is one of the shittiest heroics--purifier beam-tier.
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>>164841860
S-source plesee
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>>164939496
I bet that your playstyle should change if you take Guilltine. Most of trolls i've met used it just before they die like Taz'dingo.
Guilltine doesn't give you immortality, you should care about your health more.
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>>164939853
since when has purifier beam been bad?
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>>164940448
The only other way I've used it is purposefully getting low before a fight, throwing it in, and then healing up before getting into a fight. The problem with that is that it means my taems has to initiate or be initiated upon without me being present there, so there's loss of a 5th body at first, which can fuck things up a bit.

And even then, it's nothing a healer can't take care of within a second or two.
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>>164935283

The jug having the HoT baseline makes more sense, she heals for a lot when she has double jug + hot actually
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>3 brawls
>2 out of 3 had two allies pick medievh

but why
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>enemy team completely destroyed ours
>we've lost every single objective
>not a single lane pushed past 1st wall
>they have 4 levels of advantage
>already hitting our core
>"yeah we won't win this"
>immediately get the nonparticipation warning
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Klaxxi hero when
at least give them as a TLV skin please Blizzard
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So Khara is really strong right? Radiant dash is an amazing ability
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>>164942034
What is he even fighting?
I don't recall dinosaur people in warcraft.
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>>164943128
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Saurok
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i actually wish the flip change never happened to artanis, tired of seeing his ass everywhere now that everyone wants to be da sick ganking alien of never dying
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>>164944247
Oh fucking stop you bitch ass idiot cunt.
The change was great and you're one stupid motherfucker.
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>>164944673
He has the point. Artanis is too popular right now. School kids even almost forgot about Zul'J
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>>164944247
>>164945892
Reddit noticed he tops winrates on hotdogs.
It's over now, he's gonna get nerfed to shit tier and no one will play him again.
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>>164945956
You mean like before his rework?
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>>164927286
fuck off
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>>164946078
Yeah, that's why there's "again" at the end of the sentence idiot.
Which I don't want to happen. I liked Artanis since day one and want to play him without team raging.
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Why haven't you guys uninstall this game yet??
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>>164947617
I have nothing better to do with my life ; ^)
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>artanis is the new hotslog meme
>ours dies 14 times going 5 man deep in every fight
just nerf him to shit
please
people should only be allowed to play muradin, etc and joh
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>>164948665
pssh, nothing personel, inferior lifeform
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>>164947617
Why haven't you uninstall <insert game her> yet??
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>>164948665
>pick Muradin
>team thinks they can pick 3 mages now
>my health drops 50% in 2 seconds because I have 5 people hitting me and my backline refuses to get close enough to hit anything

>pick jo
>constantly blinding and ccing enemy team while taking tons of damage
>not dealing very much myself so still lose

>pick ETC
>take tons of damage while constantly ccing everything and boosting team around
>3 man moshs multiple times
>still lose because 3 stack refuses to split up and soak

>pick Artanis
>deal damage
>dash around
>heal yourself
>prism fun times
>blind the whole enemy team every 40 seconds
He's basically a better Sonya.
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Does QM even care about team composition?
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>>164949871
Why would it?
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>>164949871
Must've been a field day for their butcher.
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>people actually wanna nerf diablo aratnis and dehaka
sure i cant wait to play either etc or muradin or johanna again its been a long time
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>>164950201
Diablo could use a few minor nerfs.
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>>164949871
>>164949935
>>164949950
ANOTHER ONE
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>CTRL-F "Kazakus"
>2 results
>people are mentioned a kazzakus on peddit as well
>think it good old doomlord kazzak that everyone wants into hots
>google

hearthfags and their families need to get executed by firing squads
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>>164950572
they nerfed him twice
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>>164940503
since artanis release and until his recent buff, now its one of the best ults in the game lol
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>>164950838
why were you ctrl+f'ing a random misspelling of a character you want and then complaining that it's real?
>>
Haven't played in 6 months, which of the new heroes are worth buying? Already tried out Zarya, seems UP
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>>164934919
buy this skin, anon
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>>164949871
>enemy team has a second healer instead of a specialist

>>164950820
>1 healer on both sides
>1 specialist and 3 assasins on the enemy team to your 4 assasins

Seems like everything is as it always has been with the matchmaking
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>>164950970
During release Murky was both good and popular still.
Almost every game I played with him I managed to get off multiple Octo-grab and beam combos.
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>>164951490
if murky's octograb isn't cleansed then you know you're a low rank piece of shit
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Ragnaros free week when? I want my 500 gold
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>>164951712
Should be this week or next week. Varian's week was a bit after Rag's release
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>>164951458
>only roles matter
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so this fucking shit been stuck like this for 15 minutes now
is this normal?
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>>164952457
The game is trying to save you from this hell, run while you can
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>>164952054
That's how the matchmaker works
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>>164826787
uh
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How is Artanis not OP?
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>red master skin Varian
>takes fury
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>>164909045
tassadar master skin is pretty cool
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>>164944247
his inmortalness is not as bad as before
>>
>falstad with 5 coins running away from samuro
>hides in a bush and tries to B after he doesn't see samuro anymore
>right outside our base
>gets killed by the stealthed samuro
Why are people this stupid?
>>
>>164955617
how is he?
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>>164956597
Pretty much immortal.
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>>164957071
as it should be, lesser races can fuck off
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>tfw always lose against chogall because people don't know how to play against him or my team comp literally can't do shit to him
Chogall should be banned from QM
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Why do I suck so bad with him?

Specifically, why is my hero damage so low? Is he meant to just take camps and do a little bit of damage? Help please.
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>>164957727
Playing against a Cho'gall is rare as fuck, so who cares.
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>>164958078
You probably are getting stunned to shit. He's very niche, but he isn't for camp taking.

I'm trash at him too, but the general idea is to engage carefully and be good at avoiding anything that can stop you from AAing so don't rush into blind and stun city.
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>>164958078
you need to feel the hatred of TEN THOUSAND YEARS
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>>164958427
>>
Diablo and Artanis nerf when?
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>>164958078
Illidan is a hero with no poke that needs to go into fights very carefully.
He tends to have low hero damage as a result.
>>
How is pyroblast balanced?
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>>164958078
you shouldn't deal a lot of damages. On a game that last ~20 minutes where you reach lvl 20 - 21 you should have 40 - 50k damages maybe even less if there wasn't a lot of team fights during the game

It's basically a
>go in, scare them and back
during a big team fight for an objective, if you got the team for this shit
>go in, bully the caster, the healer and kill low life targets

don't focus the warrior
don't feed
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>>164958078
Hero damage on people with no AoE is usually low but is sometimes more effective than people with 3x as much as you. Killing an assassin's worth of hp doesnt really get you points, but you get points where it counts. If youre comparing yourself to a Li Ming or something, dont, its just not worth it. She can poke and aoe the frontliners all she wants, but it doesnt mean much if she can never really kill the enemy before they back up and heal.
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>>164959237
I wouldn't have to be careful if you cuntass teammates would follow up on my engage. Why are you shying away from a 3vs5? Fucking idiots.

>>164959365
It isn't.
>inb4 just use Stasis XD
Not every hero has access to it. You can't rely on teammates.
>inb4 just use any invulnerability XD
Not every hero has access to it. You can't rely on teammates.
>inb4 just stun/silence him XD
Not every hero has access to it, or is in range to do so.
>inb5 just walk away nigger XDDD
Fucking how if the menstruation slurping ASSHOLE has massive range on it, and Blizzard even buffed that.
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>>164959365
because it's easy as fuck to disjoint or shield off
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>>164959365
Can't you just hearth back most of the time?
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>>164959640
>You can't rely on teammates
If you go by that then must ults aren't balanced, this is a team game, relying on the team to shield or invul, or stun him is how it balances out.
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>>164959640
have you tried playing a hero that's not Gul'dan or Li-Ming?
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>>164959640
>You can't rely on teammates.
You can if you know how to communicate, though.
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>>164960196
I don't play that slut and Orcs fucking suck, I only play Illidan, Tracer and Butcher
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>>164960330
So 2 of 3 can dodge pyro and you retard don't know how to do it? kek
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>>164960330
>meta/spell armor on evasion
>rewind
>don't be at 30% health without your heal up
problem solved
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>>164960601
>>164960409
>HURR DURR RECALL AND EVASION ARE ALWAYS OF CD
I'm not playing against morons, my friend. I'm at the league where enemy K'Ts pay attention to your ability usage.
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>>164961013
>I'm not playing against morons, my friend
Not but you're a moron, good luck learning how to manage your cooldowns my friend.
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>>164961013
if you can't have Illidan's ult up every time KT is casting a pyroblast, that's your problem

I suggest either getting good or suicide
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>>164935283
Sounds good to me.
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>>164962082
delete this now
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>>164958078
to be a good illidan you need to have a certain enemy team.
enemy backline that relies on skill shots.
large map so people cant retreat quickly to their forts.
little to no cc & blind.

I still see no reason to pick him over zeratul who got the better burst or chen who deals less damage but got the better wave clear and survivability.
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so much fucking snow outside
I can't even play
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>>164931982
baseline the good stuff with slightly less heal over a shorter amount of time for her cups, something around 2 or 3 seconds
lower cd of serpent from 10s to 8s, make mending serpent baseline, raise its damage output slightly and increase the healing it provides
give her talents more strength, maybe add armour or weak aoe heals to her jugs which would only affect heroes because supports are no longer allowed to heal minions it seems like or allow her serpents to slow hit targets very slightly
there's definitely a bunch of small stuff they could tweak or add to keep her auto aim concept while allowing it to be more compatible with heroes in its current state
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>>164955825
>every varian on your team
>takes fury
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>>164962334
You're no fun uncle Chen.
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>retards picking cho'gall on dragonshire
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I feel like this is the best the meta has been a while, it's nice to not see the same three fucking tanks for once.
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I'm getting annoyed with the game and I want to boost my rts skills.
Should I pirate starcraft 1 and 2?
I only played half of the Terran campaign on 1 and WoL on 2
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>>164966096
yes
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>Tfw the only specialist I know how to play is Nazeebo

Send help
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>>164966180
i mean it takes like five minutes to learn the basics of a hero and another few for situational/niche talents
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Is Zarya viable/good buy?
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>>164966565
You just missed an opportunity to get her and 4 other heroes free, friendo. But yes I think she is good.
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>>164966565
Yes.
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>>164966565
If your team happens to have another tank, yes.
She's like Tassadar in that she can enable divers hard, except she deals a truckload of damage if you can shield properly.
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>>164966729
>implying I could get my lads to grind 30 games with me
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>>164967210
use the ingame channels
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>>164967210
>not asking heroes of the shitters generals for help
>not asking plebbit for help
>not joining the nexus challenge chat
your loss anon
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Guys I looked up my Hotslog and I'm diamond with a 52.6% win rate, should I start playing Hero league yet?
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>>164968125
That's up to you, friendo.

I don't see why people are so hesitant to get into Ranked.
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>>164968454
>>164968454
>>164968454
move anytime
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