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Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
>kudzu still ain't nothin to fuck with
>deff fixan
>clown wants his theater tho

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/u40ABfJz
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First for Orange Insulated Gloves.
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first for wigglin
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>>164724965
*was
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Free:
2hotdogs
Kingston
Morena
TheyCallMeSid
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New thread already?
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Chickens a Cute, CUTE!
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>>164760760
arise chicken
chicken, arise.
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>>164760717
We were on the ass end of page 10, anon
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>>164760638
That's all? Are you sure?
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1st for remember that non-human heads deserve zero respect and you dont have to listen to them
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whats a good bomb recipe for tg code?
non-zas if that matters
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>>164762283
you have to go back
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>>164762283
Max caps are achieved via bluespace beaker grenades, max water and max potassium one.

No, I am not joking.
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>>164760638
>kingston
kingston was a gigantic shitter with no respect for the rules who went out of his way to start shit and rightfully got banned for it
>morena
ERPing dramawhore who couldn't bear not having the spotlight on them at all times, good fucking riddance
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We need to seriously consider changing a few things back to the way they used to be (2013, 2014, 2015). It's increasingly becoming HugBox station.

>Leave IC issues as IC issues. Chaplain keeps beating you with his bible? Clown shocking doors? Anyone spilling the cryo mix? Someone breaking into high-security areas? Someone with lethal guns? Someone picks a real fight with you? Chef poisoning food? Valid.
>LOOC or OOC whining? Valid.
>Assistants running for insulated gloves, only to hack into the same places every round and start their very own greytide powergame attempt (they're usually not very good)? Valid catbeast.
>Get rid of Mr Bonesy Bones Sawbones as an admin or tell him to get his act together. Lazy, childish, power-hungry. Usually not very good.
>Give Pain some chill pills.
>Get Celt back.
>Get Ragnasal back.
>Praise be Eliminator.
>Praise be Serwind.
>Praise be Aurx.
>Praise be Cluck.
>Praise be Soca.
>Velard can stay away until age mellows him.
>Raise the time it takes until you can become silicon and head.
>Don't warn silicons. Immediately give temporary role bans whenever they blatantly ignore their laws. Now, every silicon shitter gets away with everything, because admins don't even formally warn them and don't keep notes on them.
>Be strict, but fair. New players mess up in the usual way (IC in OOC, rule 0, opening canisters)? Treat it as an IC issue if possible (see: valid) and after they're sliced up, give those who seem like asses a 3 day ban.

Right now, you so much as kill someone who absolutely deserves it, but turns out isn't an antag, you get banned. If you get yourself into a bigger situation because of it (say, security hunting you down because of that), and you appropriately respond by not being a bad player and surviving no matter what, you get a perma ban. Self-antagging is unfortunate, but it happens and as long as it doesn't follow from usual greytide behaviour, and not every round, it's fine.
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fuck off beard you let yourself bleed out in front of engineering just to escalate things with the CE
>REEEEEEEE BIRD REEEEEEEEE
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>>164762849
We are literally rebasing to tg right now.

https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/13270

You reap what you sow. Good job encouraging the purges, we are now fucking Hippie with over 50+ players.
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>>164762849
>waaaaah i wanna griff and kill people but pain banned me waaaaah

Fuck off Hippie faggot.
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>>164762849
I'm considering playing security lately just to start brigging greytider shitters for their constant B&E.

JUST GIVE ME A REASON TO HARM BATON YOU, PUNK
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>>164762849
>Get Celt back.
stopped reading there
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>>164763018
>implyign theres anything wrong with using /tg/code

Fuck off back to bay autist
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>>164763152
Go back to bay you fuck
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>>164763152
>Not wanting to be even slightly related to attack animations, lizards and retarded casuals means you want to play in artistically high rp servers where you can't even play Dionae without making a essay on how good you would rp it

Ebin, what next, pizza bombs?
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>>164762849
>Don't warn silicons. Immediately give temporary role bans whenever they blatantly ignore their laws. Now, every silicon shitter gets away with everything, because admins don't even formally warn them and don't keep notes on them.
Do you have a single fact to back that up
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How can I remove ooc hotkey from O?
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>>164763026

There's nothing in there about hallway meat-grinder slipjobs with some lube.
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>>164762676
morena was fucking horrendous in the past but they most kept to themselves the last month or so they played
you niggas want people to change and when they actually do you ban them, makes no sense
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Who is the best waifu and why is it borer (308)
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>>164763018
>we're actually unironically becoming TG now

Fuck.
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>>164763819
>kept to themselves
I'm sorry did you mean 'post any time someone mentioned their name'?
Because that's what they did.
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>>164763867
Do not act like we haven't warned you before, we have constantly said how bad purges were and how the server can change with new players from different codebases migrating here.

Can't say we didn't warn you.
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>>164763960
Ailsa, Avada, and Rina do that shit now and none of your faggots care about that.
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>>164763960
because the thread is the game, right? I don't see the rest of the people that always reply when they get mentioned banned.
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>>164763819

That's a selective description at best and at least equally deceptive.

I'm fine with Morena coming back, as long as he doesn't staticname, play as a girl or post in the thread or on the forums. Bill has a serious attention deficit that can only be sated by being a little, cutesy, digital waifu and stirring up drama left and right.

As a player, Morena was just shit. We're not missing much, but it's really the waifu shit + forums + thread shitlery that make him veegee's most hated.

We really dodged a bullet that Bill was banned for ERP before he could apply for an admin role, which was what he was after.
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w-waifus?
a-a-are they gone?
is it safe?
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>>164764145

No Chase, they're still here. You wouldn't survive.
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>>164764145
never.
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>>164764086
you call me selective and then spread straight lies, nice dude
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>>164763867
>>164764045
>Rebasing means all their features come to our code

You two aren't actually this retarded are you?
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>>164764402
Not now, but soon.
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>>164764521
>le slippery slope argument
ok.
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>>164764581
>Slippery slopes aren't real
Sure thing anon, keep thinking that a influx of differently minded people slowly changing mentalities is a completely foreign and impossible idea.
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>>164764972
Literally doesn't matter as long as the admin team, coding team, and the cluck isn't replaced.
Stop fearmongering you dramawhore.
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>>164765025
>>164764581
>sl-slippery slope!
>SL-SLIPPERY SLOPE!

No matter how much you shout 'muh fallacy', it's not a fallacy. More TG features, people, and code means we will eventually become like TG.
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>>164765025
>admin team isn't replaced
>a headmin just got replaced with a discord metaclub shtter
>coding team
>almost all of the collabs have fucked off to jerk off over another SS13 remake
>the cluck
>gets his opinion overridden by inTGracy self merges
Hmm
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>>164765025
Cluck is depressed and far away from the community, not to mention permabanned from 4chan, coders already showed they wanted tg stuff like attack animations, and we just lost dragon. Rest of the admin team are good, but the slope is real, especially when coders who change the code and can make us into tg have showed they do like tg stuff.

Keep saying it won't happen though, Im sure it won't, despite everything pointing to it and nothing stopping it.
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>>164765354
All other bait aside, Pomf isn't banned from 4chan I don't know why people keep saying that.
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I warned you about the c*ders but you didn't listen
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>>164765354
>rest of the admin team are good

sawbones
yred
kolith
kammerjunk
doobie
shapka
apologyman
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>>164765605
Literally nothing wrong with Yred or Kammer.
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>>164765406
If he isn't banned, why hasn't he posted in here for so long, and how did he manage to appeal a advertisement permaban?
>>164765605
Yred and apology are fine, kammerjunk is good, sawbones isn't as bad as people say, rest are okay.
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>>164763018
>Upgrading our MC is becoming TG
fuck off
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>>164765605
Kolith and doobie aren't even admins anymore
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>>164766038
You'd have to ask him cause I dunno. He was posting on /g/ last week.
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>>164762849
Honeatly, I lose a lot of my interest in an issue if the guy starts LOOCing to tell sec to stop. I tell them to quit it but they rarely do.
Worse is looc "im calling admins on you"
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>>164766095
Let me shitpost anon, its fun
>>164766332
Tell him to post here more then, he is already depressed, getting some love from the thread would make his mood better.
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>>164766473
>Worse is looc "im calling admins on you"
If you're thinking of the same guy we perma'd him.

>>164766598
ok
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>>164766332
He got week banned for posting on /pol/ or whatever to help get a guy a job, was providing him with a link to Pomf's place of work
No permaban
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>>164766742
Bunker when Probe

Bunker
When
>>164766756
It was a perma, Cluck showed it in the discord.
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>>164766598
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>>164767242
Hey pomf, how you doing?
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>>164767242
Hey pomf, how you doing? ;)
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>>164767242
Server wouldn't be so heavy if you didn't let it fill with shit
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>>164767415
>>164767497
I am doing ok, just finished work for the week way later than usual
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>>164767242
I miss you, pomf
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>>164764058
Do what now?
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>>164767648
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>>164767842
I want to cum inside Pomf
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>>164768551
ok
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>>164768551
Feed him your seed?
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>>164768609
Pumf, when are we going to purge TG and Hippie from our bureaucracy?
What I'm saying is, ban PJB, Intigracy, Sonix, and any other TG sympathizer when?
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>>164768758
good question i have no answer to
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>>164768861
all it'd take is a few button presses to save the server
You can't really say it's not tempting right? Sometimes a little tyranny can go a long way for the greater good.
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>>164768551
>>164768609
I want to make Pomf cum in me
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>>164769069
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>>164769161
unban 2hotdogs when?

He dindu nuffin wrong
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>>164769161
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>>164762849
t. elim
the IC issues thing would be very nice but the kind of people who would be okay with and emotionally capable of handling that sort of thing have slowly filtered out over the past six years. the paradigm has shifted from "hellmoo in space" to "garry's mod for toasters" and the people who aren't too complacent or retarded to realize that seem to be alright with going in that direction.
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>>164764581
>code decisions have no effect on the game or community stop being so paranoid~

>switches to bay code
>adds vox
>lets sparkledogs code for us
>>164512197
>>164512562
>>164513968
Yeah it's just a funny coincidence right? Those guys are just flukes it's not like the overwhelming majority of our staff and players also do shit like this privately and let it leak into the game
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>>164771284
>Allowing ERP would save /vg/
Retard. All your ideas are shit.
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>>164771284
>allow erp
whew
keep it out of the fucking game or don't do it at all
this is not a cybersex client
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>>164771284
erp is allready allowed on the server, public quicktime face sitting happens a fuckton.
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>>164771284
>Remove all current admins and ale everybody reapply fairly

Who would they be applying to?

>Ban discords and steam groups
Literally impossible to police

>make coders need a majority of the playerbase in favour for new features/gameplay features
>Remove all non human races

What if these are contradictory

>allow erp but make it void admin protection

I'll give you a 2/10 since I responded but this is some weak fucking bait desu
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>>164771284
Ignore this it's a psyop
>all those good ideas
>bundled with accepting erp in order to discredit them through association

You can't trick me TG plant.
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>>164771284
Replace
>allow erp but make it void admin protection
with
>unban everyone and re-enable bunker
And we are good
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I have an idea
remove non-antag vox
remove skeletons
this will make sure that people who don't play humans can only play greys, who are "okay" since shitters don't usually play them, or plasmamen, who are cool
I have yet to see a single good vox or skeleton
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>>164771284
nice false flag bud
blowing the server up would be nice but it wouldn't solve any of the underlying problems
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>>164771841
How do you feel about skeletal vox?
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>>164760717
>what are you doing?
>BOOM
>dying
Greytide once again btfo sec
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Vq47y_RlE
Literally a condensed video of everything currently wrong with the game.
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>>164772040
FUCKING NO
STOP DOING THIS
WE DON'T NEED MORE RACES
SKELETONS SHOULD BE FROM GENETICS, VIRO OR BUS ONLY
LIKEWISE FOR SKELETONS AND CATBEASTS
FUCK
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>>164771284
t. probe
sorry for naming the proverbial jew I'll go back to being an embittered cunt and keep my Wrong Opinionsâ„¢ to myself
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>>164772040
SKELETAL GREYS
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>>164772497
The only way to save /vg/ is if pomf stops hosting and kills the server, this is the way it's always been and the way it always will be
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>>164772697
Could you imagine if we got another /vg/ server hosted by someone else? wouldn't that be fun ha ha
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>>164772497
okay dude no cut the shit
you want to be little miss kingshit I get it
none of those stances are objectionable
this is a community project whether you and your fuckboys like it or not
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>>164772807
>>164772697
yeah because that worked out so great with badclown
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The only way to save/vg/ is a complete reshuffle
>Enforce Polaris rules
>Enforce Polaris code
>Enforce Polaris map
>Enforce Polaris players
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>>164771841
Vox are fine, I see plenty of good/decent vox.
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>>164772947
Yeah it did
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>>164773028
That's becaues current vox are no different to humans playing a retarded child. They'd still be the same if they were human.
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>>164773028
like fuck you have
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>>164772947
badclown was a false flag
having a regular changing of the guard did us some good
it's too late to go back and the power-grubbing faggots would continue to be power-grubbing faggots. I don't think being as firmly established as the other shitty pub servers has done us much good but we've come a long way in terms of creating our own identity and unique content. we just need people to be more willing to participate in the server and air their grievances.
let's solve our problems the democratic way and try to steer ourselves back in the right direction instead of just throwing years of hard work out the window.
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Let's play a game.

Name 3 good humans
Name 3 good vox
Name 3 good skeletons
Name 3 good plasmamen
Name 3 good grays

If you cannot even name 3, we remove the race.
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>>164773704
so you're saying we should just erase the game from history or... ?
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>>164773603
Too bad the coders don't care and will either ignore votes/rulings on things or just keep holding votes until they get the outcome they want.
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>>164773704
Me
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>>164773193
>>164773205
Any examples? What makes them so bad? Are they not RPing the way you want them to?
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>>164773704
Me, Robert Greymond and Steve Blum
Pie/baker vox and whoever the two other vox traders that get disks are
none
none
Mao, Yahir and Milhouse
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>>164773981
Shid we got a winer here
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This AAC shit is going to be worse than singuloose.
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>>164773882
they don't even bother with that
if it's important enough to one of them they've got access to a bunch of sock puppet ckeys and github accounts to skew results their way. many such cases!
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What's objectively better for the SME: xxxx?
>active cooling
>passive cooling
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Let's play a game.

Name 3 good males
Name 3 good females

If you cannot even name 3, we remove the gender.
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>>164774454
Me
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>>164774454
Asexual space station
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>>164774454
Him
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>>164772497
Come on codester. We were both new and the game was filled with limitless possibilities and was nothing but sunshine to us. Now we're old. Old as dirt except to the oldest of oldfags (to whom we'll forever be new). We see where the game doesn't shine as bright as we originally thought.

But you've lost the view of what makes the game great while focusing on the negatives and think a lot of impossible can happen or detrimental ones that drive us down to dorf stations level of dead will help anything or anyone.

From Pomf to me to half the players, we're all in discord now. It was impossible to enforce a prohibition against it. I said no to discord and in time I saw that it was a disastrous idea. People will use discord and if we make it bannable they'll use it without telling us. It's demonstrably improved our coder-player communication and made it easier for players to become coders and spriters. Our admins are all in discord and can be contacted which is an improvement over sending a byond message and hoping they check it.

Removing all admins is just silly power play. Who would apply? The former admins. Who would be accepted? The former admins. If one is bad then report them and we'll straighten them out or cut them loose.

The codebase can't actually operate in a fevered dream of total democracy. Players just don't give a shit and I'm not waiting to merge every minor PR till I get the consent of people that don't care. If it's controversial then I painfully make sure everyone is aware of it and start a discussion.

>remove races I don't like because I don't like them.
We removed Skeletons because others and myself disliked them. Then we re-added them. The people that wanted them matter too.

>Bunker
I appreciate 4chan elitism and not wanting to deal with redditors. But we wouldn't even be /vg/. We'd just be a tiny pomf server with hardly any players that has isolated itself from everyone for no gain.
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>>164774320
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>>164774454
Ernest Corningsound
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>>164774320
The AAC has always been that way. Those willing to understand it can cause great harm or save stations.
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>>164774320
I enjoyed using the script, too bad I didn't get any gases flowing
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>>164774717
I would argue it's far too disruptive and powergamey. Importing scripts should be limited to some number of characters. If you want to plasmaflood the whole station in seconds, it should take some legwork (such as multitooling the vents.)
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>>164773704
>humans
ginger, coolio, yred
>vox
kayahi, that one trader who uses fuck in place of words, rail
>skeletons
N/A
>plasmamen
shark, bob, that one creepy chick one
>ayys
yahir, that scientist one, millhouse
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>>164774454
Males (Male)
>Pomf
>Pomf
>Pomf

Females (Male)
>Pomf
>Pomf
>Pomf
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>>164774649
Didn't you say yesterday that you never vouched for removing the bunker?
And now you're saying you do want us to not have the bunker?
HMmmmmm
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>>164774717
Probe do you play any more?

Probe do any coders play any more?
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>>164775195
It's been in the game for 3 years man. Every time someone re-discovers what it is someone says nerf now.

We've survived this long and we'll survive again.
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>>164775430
I played yesterday and was going to play last round but by the time I made a cup of tea and got comfy the round ended.

Only a few collaborators are active players but most of the coders are indeed active players. That's how they know what they want to add.
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>>164774649
>We'd just be a tiny pomf server with hardly any players that has isolated itself from everyone for no gain.
Probe, you keep saying this, but we are not made to have 50 or even 40+ people, it becomes chaos.

This mentality that more players is inherently good is shit, and it is filled with shit. 35 players is more than enough, and when I get to enjoy a round with my spare time, id rather not have it be filled with tiders, a completely full sec team of incompetent morons and I enjoyed comfy 30 pop. It isn't too much, it isn't too little, just right enough for fun gimmicks and populated enough for traitors to not just murderbone, yet sparse enough that the crew usually isn't worse than the actual round antags. Even if nukeops or blob pop isn't in every single match, it doesn't mean its bad, it means we have a good base population to keep and that keeps playing here a lot, that is what we want, not a huge server pop, but a decently sized, loyal and for the most part, decent playerbase. Reddit or not, most players that inflate the count are bad, and having people be chaotic encourages others to be, mob mentality, we all know this.
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>>164775773
this

30-35 is literally perfect pop
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>>164775773
>>164775880
this
but I think 40-30 is best, no more, no less
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>>164774109
see every trader that gets arrested
every other round with a trader I have to deport one out an airlock, if you just give them a normal sentence their faggot bird friends (both the other traders and any vox on the station) instantly come and break them out
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>>164762849
I agree with the IC issues and greytiders
T. Sec main
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>>164776025
Hey, as a security main who is your favourite detective?
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>>164775430
I play

t. contributor
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>>164774649
it actually could if you didn't drive people away or act like arrogant pricks who wave their one yard of influence around in people's faces BUT HEY I know that's asking the world from someone like you
getting pozzed up with subreddit users who want disabler beams and lizard people isn't doing us any good. it's not isolationism if we're just trying to keep people from actively and deliberately fucking the server up. if the admins don't want to administrate and the players don't want to do their footwork for them, why demand more pubbies and tards who can't follow simple English-language instructions
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>>164775430
>do any coders play any more?
A round or two a day, such is the life of a wageslave
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>>164776135
I am his favorite
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>>164776135
the ones that actually give sec regular updates during their investigation
you know, the nonexistant ones
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>>164776135
Megurine Luka! Best detective
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>>164776553
>random detective
>trying to play some gimmick, not even doing detective work
>acting like a regular officer
>gets in a shit fight with the silicons for shooting some petty criminal with his revolver
>ends up getting beaten up and his ID stolen by some greyshit
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>>164774649

Skeletons should be back to what they were two years ago, they should have the same speed as humans
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>>164776553
I do that though.
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>>164776553
>tfw somebody calls you a good detective
>tfw people assume it's self shilling
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Just how bad or good this game affected your life, spessmen?
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>>164777714
Sometimes while playing other games I'll subconsciously try to type say to use chat.
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>>164778121

>Not using F3 to talk quickly
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>>164777035
>detective loots a sec locker at roundstart
>steals the HoS jumpsuit for muh protection
>goes out on their own to answer distress calls and whatever the HoS is asking the officers to do
>never actually tells anyone this
>uses their revolver with normal bullets, not rubber, to take down petty criminals
>when they have a taser
>gets assblasted when people take the side of the criminal because excessive force is a major fucking crime
it sure is fun when everyone in sec is a retard except yourself
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>>164778350

T
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>>164776553
>get waifu-posted
>can't defend myself anymore for exact;y this reason.
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How do I fix this?
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>>164779409
:)
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>>164779409
Works on MY machines
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>revsquad
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that was a nice and comfy round at Cargo
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>>164779409
change the file type to a jpg
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>>164779409
Buy the game legally, pirate. Next time, search google.
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>>164779598
th-thanks
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Are emagged silicons still bound to their master if his name changes?
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>>164779813
They are bound to their laws.
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>Small_Boss is already a fullmin
>Kolith and Kuranon not admins despite being troalmins for longer.

Talk about metaclubs...
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>>164780110
Kolith got put on indefinite probation for being a fag before he gave up his trialmin status.
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>>164780110
Kolith is a gigantic shitter who was never admin material in the first place.

No idea what's up with Kuranon.
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Does singulo need a full crystal to go super? I know I've seen it happen with just a shard at least once.
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>>164780386
A shard upgrades a singularity to stage 5 if it's smaller then that, and to SUPER if it's already at stage 5
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>>164779409
try updating internet explorer
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>>164760962
whatchu want senpai
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>>164780995
>Internet Explorer
I thought you were smart, pomfie
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>>164770679
You are incorrect
I would never let it leak into the game and never have
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>>164781253
BYOND uses internet explorer for all ingame windows that pop up
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>>164781000
Can you check Fruktlimpa please? I want to know mine.
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>>164781253
That's the browser BYOND uses, numbnuts. You can't change it.
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>>164781253
faget
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>12% chance of deff
>wins
>salty boxbabies
>WIZWARS!
I'd say round ruined but it would have been nuke ops anyways. Deff is cursed.
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>>164781335
later
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>>164781000
And me as Hachi
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>borg shows up with lasers and tries to hit me
>hide in a locker, it comes near and I jump out with a flash
>destroy it
>BWOINK banned for attacking a borg for just following it's laws of killing me
Really gets my noggin jogging mates.
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>wizwars
>blink to get away from the madness and end up finding two monkeyed wizards
>turn them into borgs instead of participating.
>make it to the shuttle and survive while blowing someone's butt off
It was fun.
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>>164781616

So you got banned for self-preservation?>
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>>164781484
Thank you
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>>164781291
okay
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Refresh issue hasn't gone away entirely but it won''t bother you now if you're just looking to scoop the dosh.
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>>164782690
Looks good mate, thanks.
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>Try paradise
>Having fun being mentored by a chemist, making bunches of chems, people are actually walking up to the desk and asking nicely rather than breaking in
>Their chem is a bit more robust, have to have bottles of spare chemicals rather than cooking everything in the beaker
>Suddenly weird cult
>Badly sprited bright orange constructs float by, emit a dark red gas that knocks you out instantly
>Get helped back up by a vox, escape is cut off by these weird tiles and the constructs
>Try to walk to escape
>The weird tiles instantly gib you into one of the constructs
>Their 'new god' is upscaled by a factor of 4, so mixels like crazy

The constructs were coal golems by name, but bright orange by sprite. Weirdest thing.
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>fat captain dies
>doctor puts him in morgue
>doesn't even bother trying to defib or clone

WOW
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Flamethrower does nothing against blob, nothing!
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>>164783669
Coal Cult.
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>crew won

what
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>>164782690
So much better than it bouncing to the top endlessly.
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>>164774320
There's a character limit last time I tried this. Didn't allow me to insta flood the station
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>>164784174
EMITTERS
M
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T
T
E
R
S
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Fat spacesuits when?

only available in the Atmos and SME room, can get more from ordering RUST parts
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>>164781616
didn't happen
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why is deadpoo permad?
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>>164781616
Shit attempt at making a point
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>>164783591
>>164784214
Right I'll put that before the council of code-memes and it should be merged in no time.
Changing priorities will still be a fucking nightmare but oh well it will do for now, perhaps a proper overhaul later.
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>play sec fairly regularly
>still don't know how flashes work

is it the use button facing someone else or point and click

how long do they stun
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>>164784478
Meta-hate/grudge
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>>164784648
Click in hand for an AOE blind thing that doesn't stun, click on adjacent dude for blind and stun. Stuns long enough, perhaps 6-10 seconds.
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>>164784648
Click someone in their sprite, using it inhand just makes the blind effect from them trigger, not actually stun them, and the stun duration is the same as your baton, give or take a second.
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>>164784648
When used in hand it blinds people adjacent to you for about one second

When used point and click it blinds and stuns about as long as a baton

Useless against any sort of eye protection (welding helmets/goggles, sunglasses, some hardsuit helmets) which half the crew will have, so it's better to stick with your baton unless the borgs are killing everyone
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>>164782690
the options on top are good, but i think that the "available recipes" section could be also changed; for example, when you need some plasteel you need to stop the ore refiner, put plasteel on higher priority than metal and plasma, refiner on, refiner off again, pray that you didn't refine too much stuff to plasteel.

let's call as "advanced materials" the ones made by mixing 2-3 materials (plasteel = plasma + iron; reinforced glass = iron + sand; plasma glass = sand + plasma; reinforced plasma glass = sand + plasma + iron) and "simple materials" all the rest, made by just 1 material; you could be able to choose how many of these advanced material you should obtain, leaving them to 0 will let all the ores be worked as simple material sheets, no need for priority.

example in pic:
A- to set how many sheets you need
B- recipe + spare materials stored
C- clicking the x, all spare materials stored will be released as simple material sheets and quantity will be set back to 0

what do you people think?
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>>164760402
FREE KANGSTON
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>>164787576
Sounds great by me anon.
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Revsquad no longer recalls.

Rejoice thread, the shittiest fucking gamemode after blob single wizard has been slightly fixed so it isn't absolutely awful, just awfull.
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>log in
>who
>kavlax
>play because I know it's a no bullshit round
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>>164781483
>xD we have to play on the worst map in out rotation SUCK IT!!!

Until something gets fixed or a new map added, box and meta are the only two stations worth playing.
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What are the major problems with deff and how can we fix it to make it as good as metaclub and box?
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>>164789809
permaban anyone who votes for it
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Has /vg/ gone to shit? Look at these fucking rounds.
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>>164789809
prob this is completely unrelated, but i wanted to run it by before i posted it on git for a further issue, but, do you think making it so pAIs slowly gain ram instead of having a set amount would be good or too strong?
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I wished we had a metric shit load of maps and a metric shit load of game modes so playing ss13 would be new every time.

>you'll never play ss13 again for the first time
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>>164790154
>I will never experience again that 5 hour Christopher Dorner terror extravaganza with him fully armoured, riding the Pussy Wagon with an e-bow in hand as the survivors huddle in maintenance trying to get an ID console going all the while we recieve ERTs, deathsquads, aliens and blobs only to fail to corner the Dorner.

I don't know how to feel about this.
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>>164789809
Make maintenance be decent and reasonable, remove memes and stupid reference shit, make ghetto botany smaller and better, sunglasses in maint, better loot overall so use some spawners, reduce its maint size by atleast 40% and remove hostile mobs in it, I don't care if assistant mcgee managed to shove a corpse of some fallen faggot in the maint morgue, I want to visit that place and not die from a fucking spider.

Your bar pr was a great start, but you also need to clean up the assistants den, we do not need a toner in there, its just lazy and made to seem like its filled with useful stuff when realistically, nobody uses printers but to print ass shots. Sec is fine, but science could be more spacious, it feels too compressed. Nerf the miner suit amount unless Im mistaking it for meta, they are both mediocre. Remove sec vendor recharge pack and the red lighter and replace it with a costume pack and a green lighter, more corners like the smoking one would be good, and give the cap something unique.
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NEW SEASON NEW BUGFIX MILESTONE I'm not late shut up
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FREE KINGSTON
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>>164789809
Probe keep the dimmly lit bar backroom on deff, with the tiny window and smartvend to botany, its comfy, I made a bed back there one time, even better add a bed
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>>164789809
also don't remove that ghetto diner near kitchen, its rarely used but its cool, and can be a good fort
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>>164789809
don't listen to that guy telling you to shrink down maint, and clean up assistants den, it being messy adds character.
If anything make maint bigger, fuck add supermaint, and make the entrance in a random place in deff maint
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>>164790080
> borer 2.0
no, keep it, we want to make the differences between borers and pAI matter
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>>164791708
lmao, we shouldn't allow any '''''coder''''' who doesn't knows git to touch our code
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>>164791843
There are plenty of one line bugfixes, stylistic updates, full pathing, grunt work, mapping, etc. changes that someone could make without being detrimented by their inability to use git.
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The good officer
>uses space law to the max to fuck over grey tiding zero RP faggots as much as possible
>knows the law
>knows a good RP opportunity and lets minor crimes go if the person is entertaining to play with

NEVER beat prisoners, instead if there is someone you hate, think of creative ways of wasting their time and removing them from the round. A few of my favorites are
>leave lots of opportunity for them to escape and thus add time
>antagonize them in subtle ways to make them hate you and want to escape even more
>let perma prisoners escape so you have an excuse to kill them or force borg them
>make fun of them and call them unrobust, while intentionally fucking up and using cheese tactics to arrest them. The more they hate you, the more they will want to act out and prove they are better then you

If you notice a person getting angry, push them and once they crack and try to fight you, thats when you unzip borgs/backup and fuck them up, the last thing you want to do is be robust. If they think they can win future rounds against sec if they are just given the right circumstances you have done your job. Think of it as investing in the future, you might not get a personal valid right now. But you let that bitterness grow in the grey shit and that valid will multiple into the future.

Sec is not about beatings, the true test is making valids even when there are no antagonists left to fight.
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>>164792038
I'm a greyshit and I'm happy you do this, it gives me excuses to fight security without getting baned so that I get more robust and better than u
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>>164791843
First of all, most of our current coders didn't know how to use Git until they learned it to code here
Second, spriting and mapping also require using Git
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>>164791843
>exclusive experienced git users only coderclub
>>>/tg/
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>>164792504
>tfw i used to merge when i should have rebased
In my defense, they should have slapped my shit for that but no, they still merged it.
Never again though, rebase all day everyday.
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>>164792038
>put guy in perma
>purposely leave both doors open
>he runs out and tries to yakety sax me
>tase him and take him directly to exeuction chamber
>mfw
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>>164792652
Not even. Wet perma lobby airlocks out of sight of him with your pepper spray after you pass them.
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>dragonbro will have to trialmin to get admin back

at least small boss is a fullmin now. shame to see dragon bro fall though
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>>164792038
>play sec fairly often now
>nice to nearly everyone and then they still meme on me
>still fairly unrobust and fuck up tase-ing and regularly lose criminals to maint

im helping the long game r-right guys
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>>164793051
the long game is the most important game friend, as long as you report the escape and punish them to the fullest extent of the law you are doing good sec work
>>
What would you say the most iconic image of SS13 is?
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>>164793051
Use flashbangs nigga.
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>>164793546
MOVE, BITCH, GET OUT DA WAY
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You guys remember when we removed traitor wheelchairs because they were clearly crazy broken

yeah, why did we forget that
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>>164793498
there's a lot that I like more, but this is the one I see used the most
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>>164793674
sir, whats the point of using knifes when we are going into a taser fight?
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>>164793546
fucking wonderful
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>>164793546
pai merges are the best thing we've ever gotten
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>>164760402
I want to cum inside Zoey Walker
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>>164793664
just

use tables
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Fuck me, fixing engi+atmos sabotage is hell.
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>>164793546
YOU DIDN'T FINISH THE JOB ON THE BOTANIST
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What is this, a medium RP server

I want less of that newspaper nonsense and lawyering and more valid hunting
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It was alright.
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God bless hydroponics, those seeds were great
slip
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>giving people the succ in medbay and cloning them
>some assistant is probably tipped off by the AI and catches me
>hide in maintenance, people think I left
>Chap comes and I spray space lube at the door and give him the slip
>he tells me I don't need to succumb to being a vamp as I'm about to kill him
>agree with him, let him go
>come to him begging for help when the chase is on
He never managed to save me, oh well. Wew second time as vamp got only three succs in.
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>>164793546
That was bullshit how revs were bussed in when we were in the middle of leaving, we took down those vamps fair and square.
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>>164793726
*scream
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>>164793883
I heard you biting the guy in surgery through the wall
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>>164793828
That Cow is Comfy!
C O M F Y
O
M
F
Y
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>>164793762
AI THE CLOWN IS ROGUE
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Who gives better succ?

Vamps or changelings?
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>>164794023
Me__
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>>164793967
Oh really? Didn't realize that actually went through walls.
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>>164793937
revs were bussed in before the escape shuttle got called
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>mulebot kills EVERYONE

So was it just given vague orders or did it just not give a shit?
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>>164760402
How the fuck do you toggle OOC?
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>>164794065
Well now you know, had to hack in because it felt a bit scummy to just call it out on hearing alone, but once I saw the blood and the bite it was ogre
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>>164794023
>pic
Reminder that Hippie now has Robbie Rotten's outfit
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>>164794118
Preferences tab
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>>164793546
DRIVING IN THE 10:00's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCiDuy4mrWU
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how did sec fare that round, I had to go
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>>164794501
Got fucked by revs.
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>>164794101
Doesn't matter, we were focusing on vamps. Summoning revs out of no where to ambush sec is foul play, we got no warning, nothing and we were having a perfect game.
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>>164794742
When has spess ever been FAIR

that said I loathe revs too, gay shite that.
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>>164794118
(((they))) moved it from a verb under a flag to something under the settings tab in the top left of the screen for some reason
I don't see the logic behind having to open up your character setup window in-game to change minor settings but apparently in cl*ster's diseased primate brain it's some sort of positive thing
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>>164794501
Massacred the vampires with perfect teamwork and cooperation with the crew.
Than the admins thought it was funny to bus in full revs on the station, which due to lack of warning wiped sec out.
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>>164794825
The nain motivator is that verbs are apparently Satan in drag so they've gotten tid of a bunch and moved it to General Settings
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>>164794820
But it was the equivalent of dropping a singu on us out of no where. If we had some sort of warning we would've done something but no we got ran over by a pai mule who was originally our ally against the vampire threat.
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>>164776714
Wait, wat?
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>>164794928
Yeah, we had a good team. Kinda glad I killed myself before rev buss because that would have made me salty
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>>164780995
Thanks, that did the trick!
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>>164794118
Talk about IC shit until the badmins rage and turn it off
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>>164794825
You know how you rightclick something and it takes eight fucking glacial ages for the rightclick menu to pop up?
The delay is directly proportional to how many verbs the serb has
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>>164795080
Sounds like you're overinvested my dude. I get wanting to win, but the game is designed around disaster scenarios. It's the small victories that matter.
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>>164796812
That said, there's something to be said for NOT going from modes where you can have a hope to do your jerb into do-or-die, with-us-or-against us shite for no particular reason.
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>>164796720
Nobody fucking right clicks anyway
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>>164796096
who is this semen demon?
>>
So what else could we stick PAIs into?
Bots? Mining Drones?
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>>164797743
Canary cages.
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>>164797743
i like the mining drones idea. bots could be really funny also. pAI controlled EDs just spamming *law
>>
pAI beepsky WHEN?
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>>164797743
My bet is that hardsuits are the endgame here.
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>>164797743
>Stuff them into hacked APCs to give them control over that rooms power and functions
>Cram them an air alarm to give them control over all vents and airflow in that area
>J-j-jam them into an emagged AI card to give them all the powers of a mobile AI, able to interact with everything in sight
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>mfw i don't get any complaints playing head roles

T-that's a good thing, right?
>>
>pAI's are becoming emags that speak to you


not mad/10
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>>164798421
But what would they do?
Take control of the suit if the operator becomes disabled like the Trauma Harness things from Old World Blues?
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>>164796720
>let's pander to the three primates from south america / indonesia that don't understand / can't afford alt keys

how about you guys make stacks of footprints not nuke my fucking client
that seems like a more pressing performance issue
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>>164798915
50/50 if they walk you to medbay or out an airlock when you pass out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoV9Hs5Z3rQ

EXACTLY like this.
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>>164799185
you can't altclick floors not directly adjacent to you retard
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>>164798915
fuck I was 2 seconds from posting the exact same thing
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>>164799283
So?
>>
I'm sorry I was a garbage cultist. My fuck, is this game complicated.
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>>164799780
ick
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>>164799780
https://youtu.be/EBNZnNPnfUs
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I'm sorry I was a garbage nuke op. My fuck, is this game complicated.
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>>164800346
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I'm sorry I was a garbage waifu. My fuck, is this forum complicated.
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I'm sorry I was a garbage admin. My fuck, is this game complicated
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>>164797743
pAIs are suddenly becoming extremely dangerous.
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>>164789809
you seem to imply metaclub is good
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>pais are now able to freely kill anyone
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>put some unstable mutange on a plant
>it mutates into litteraly everything and fucks up the room with another kuzdu plant
Fancy shit.
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>>164801612
>that thumbnail
surprisingly relevant
thanks hiroshima
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>>164801612
Whoever removes their safeties is responsible for the killings
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr6E7Z9-NCo
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Who keeps merging those pAI changes and how can we lynch them?
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>>164801708
>It is a highly specialized hematophage that will only draw nutrients from blood.
>It is carnivorous
>It possesses a cover of sharp thorns
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>>164802005
It is being added as a race next patch.
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Uninvolved people have been posting their views on ban requests, appeals for so long on the forums. Now that there's a case of part of the community not agreeing with the admins, Pain says he's 'going to start doubling down on the ban forum rules' ( http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=3417 ) and is actually going to enforce the 'you have to be involved to post' requirement.

Let's forget all the times badmins have ignored this rule, because it served them. ( take your pick here http://ss13.moe/forum/search.php?author_id=1360&sr=posts )

They should be glad that this happened with an inconsequential ban by an admin already known as a shitter. Pain is hypocritical. The rule itself cuts both ways. Usually allowing everyone to have their say helps admins (hate is endemic here), but the moment it doesn't they start 'doubling down'.

It's pathetic but so many things here have been pathetic and it still somehow mostly works.
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>>164802096
Who cares
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>>164802284

anyone who ever gets bwoinked ever
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>>164802337
So, the dregs of our server? Good to know.
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>>164802070
>tfw your potted plant actually is a vampire
Also wish there was a trait on a plant to be able to shoot stingers or fruit at people. Imagin trying to fight an blue space tomate kuzdu!
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>mfw playing as a mulebot memeing medbay into pure autistic rage
The Eurobeat kept me going, I had to deliver the gas.
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>>164802096
>unironically defending morena

Fuck off and die Hippie scum
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>>164781495
http://a.pomf.cat/zwwhfd.txt
ur rating: "nanobot duping needs to be fixed"/10
>>164781335
http://a.pomf.cat/papqzr.txt
ur rating: "play medbay more please"/10
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>>164798915
>get succed
>pAI suit stands up
>ling gets chased down and killed by a corpse puppeted by sentient suits and sentient lasers
>sad borer hookshoot dragging it's dead host around wishing it was that cool
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>>164802096
The irony is Pain has a say in everything. He has tweaked notes left by other admins on a dozen different occasions to make them sound better or worse based on his opinion of the player.

t. former admin
Watch your backs
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>>164802608
>t. former admin
hi deadpoo
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>>164802494
>mfw getting run over by a mule twice in the same round https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRbhLtjOiRc
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Day of the rope for coderbus when?
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Seriously, what fucking retard decided MrPain "Literally as in fucking LITERALLY a bay admin" 666 should be headmin?

I have nothing against bay, but their admins all have telephone polls lodged up their asses and Pain's adminning style leaves something to be desired. "I am the headmin and what I say goes" doesn't work here, and I'm surprised he doesn't understand that.
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The OP image is extremely relevant now.
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>>164802445

Anyone who isn't Arthur Dentist and spends his rounds making soft beverages for soft people only.

>>164802506

I wasn't defending Morena at all. I'm glad Bill is gone because he was a busybody. I just can't stand hypocrisy without a tinge of self-awareness. Pain is sometimes a fucking idiot. He will probably never have even the semblance of authority in real life (lucky him), so he sways the sceptre in the 2d spessmen realm while complaining about sitting in the peanut gallery. It's a farcical thing that annoys me especially when he shows some measure of idiocy.
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>>164802515
Thanks buddy, really appreciate it!
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>>164802515
>All pills made by ckey soose
>By name:
>8 - 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87H6m2v4zNs
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>>164801730
Maybe in-game, but whoever their master is that orders them to start killing is the one really responsible and if they just start doing it without an order that should be a ban.
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>make a typo over the radio
>feel like suicide succumbing and playing on a brand new account

Who else?
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>>164803435
yeah pretty much
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>>164802608
[09:25:57]ADMIN: MrPain12/(MrPain12) has edited MY CKEY's notes.
>There's three of these in logs I've seen
>Too scared to ask what he changes
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>>164801983
If you don't like them, say so on the Github.
Not a single one of the pAI buff PRs has received even one negative vote so far.
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>>164803781
Just ask a different admin.
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>>164803781
Just ask in ahelp, who the fuck cares
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>>164803781
"has edited anon's notes" is what it says when you add a new note. Even with +PERMISSIONS, I don't believe you can edit an existing note, you'd need to delete it and add your own.
But yeah, just ask. I really couldn't give a heck who wants their notes.
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>>164801708
Oh, your the brain dead non antag botanist that fucks up the Research Station every round arn't you?
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>>164802096

Curver here.

I fear they have half a mind to rule 0 me, because I killed and in turn upset Dragonbro. DragonBro lost his admin privileges over his response. I still think I was justified in killing him. The only thing I regret is DragonBro losing his privileges. However, his response was out of my control.

If they're going to rule 0 me, the last thing admins will need in the near future is a thread with one of the reasons to rule 0 me being invalidated by people agreeing with my actions. It's also why I appealed a 3-day ban.

At the very least, Sawbones clearly hates my guts (http://game.ss13.moe/logs/2017/01-January/04-Wednesday%20admin%20only.log):

PM: Zealotron/(Sawbones)->Curver: (...) And considering your past history of poor escalation and murdering people as part of your poor escalation it looks bad on you right now
PM: Curver->Zealotron: What previous history, exactly? One incident? Two?
PM: Curver->Zealotron: What's my ckey age?
PM: Zealotron->Curver: It's my personal experience in dealing with you
PM: Curver->Zealotron: Which incident(s)?
PM: Zealotron->Curver: a few where you've done things and ultimately killed someone for poor escalation
PM: Zealotron->Curver: this situation is more, hehe, clear cut however
PM: DragonBro: Jesus christ, Zealotron
PM: Curver->Zealotron: I reacted to someone, in my view, killing me

I do dislike Sawbones not giving a final word. I'd have liked to see what he has to say. I've stirred up this shit, and therefore I'm assuming he wants me to go away for it. I think it was proper escalation, and despite me asking for clarification (in the thread) on what is allowed and not, Pain just shut the thread and threw away the key.
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>>164803435
>make a typo that in audible form sounds exactly like the word you meant to say
>like accidentally saying your instead of you're
>someone goes out of the way to criticize and correct you in character.
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>>164803781
>Find out I have a note
>Ask the Admins
>I'm a Friend to All Bee Kind
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>>164805148
No-one is rule 0ing you, come on. I'll actively and strongly oppose anything of the sort, but there hasn't been talk of anything of the sort. Why would there be?
I know the admin channel on the Discord is called #metaclub, but that's a play on the idea, fucking hell.
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>tfw there will never be a toxins crab mommi skin
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>>164805148
>because I killed and in turn upset Dragonbro. DragonBro lost his admin privileges over his response. I still think I was justified in killing him. The only thing I regret is DragonBro losing his privileges.
No one is going to ban you because of DragonBro.

He's one of my best friends on this server and I'm not going to pay any more attention to you than anyone else. I didn't even look closely at what happened.

I've warned (many admins but also) Dragonbro not to play while adminned and to keep it totally separate regardless of whether it's a job we require you to deadmin for or not. It caught up to him. He opted to quit.

His issues are not caused by you. You were just the time he didn't conduct himself as expected. What transpired between you two in game is a ban matter for admins to deal with. How he responded to it by using admin tools and messaging you after he died was an admin matter and separate from any other aspect of what occurred.

Please keep that in mind. No ones thonking wow fuck curver that guy sucks he got my friend deadminned. They're thinking wow I wish my friend would avoid fucking up while adminned.
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fuck wiz, even the "good" rounds are still fucking trash
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>>164781000
Can you figure out who has made and drank the most milk? I want to figure out who has the strongest bones.
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>>164805432
>>164805684

Oh, okay. Well, that's good to hear.

I do feel bad about DragonBro not being an admin any more. He was pretty good, actually. I've also said so over the forums and do think he should come back, because him PM'ing me was of little consequence.
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Is the chemist log guy still around?
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>>164805148
zealotron is a fucking horrible admin so don't be surprised

Guy has the reading comprehension of a retard.
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>>164805743
>>164805148

METEOR ROUNDS AND SHIT FORT ARE FINALLY DEAD.

CARVER YOU ARE A HERO
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>Start as bartender
>Wizards
>Get staff of changed into a changeling horror
>Fucked up by fire
>Find a guy to change me into a grue
>Get changed again into an ayyy
>Get changed one last time as a monkey on the shuttle
>Barely manage to survive until shuttle arrives

good round desu
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>>164805743
This is far from the first time dragonbro has ragequit

He'll be back again, I wouldn't feel bad about it
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>>164805961
I was the assistant that helped you out in ghetto bar.

>was walking to the shuttle and another freak comes up to me and asks me to change them into something cool
>Why not and start spamming
>End up changing that person into Krampus
>He disarms me, steals my staff and runs off

That's the last time I help any of you niggers when I get the staff of change.
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>>164806149
RULES OF NATURE
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return !density

What is this returning exactly? I assume it's a flag setting to false?
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Who was pal 1000 and Lothl?

U guys were good mules, just suprised I'm still fine.
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>>164806316
is the turf dense i.e. a wall
or is the object dense i.e. a girder
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>>164802096
Pain has been an arrogant, hypocritical cunt since he first got admin. Him becoming a headmin after all the shit he's done is really confusing to me.

>"I-it's because he actually enforces the rules!"

Nuke and a majority of the other admins do that just fine and without throwing a tantrum every time they receive criticism.
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>>164806469
Oh neat. I'm trying to mod the treadmill to not have a wall on the end, that way I can make my Edison Engine and power the station by putting treadmills in high traffic areas.
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>>164805825
whatchu want senpai
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>>164804162
>you'd need to delete it and add your own
Yeah, no shit. That's what I'm talking about
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>>164806603
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>>164805204
>my only note is a quote of me being surprised that I had no notes
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>>164802674
Sup

>>164784478
Don't stand up against the headmins. Ever. Do as your told and keep your head down.
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>>164804162
>>164806603
Admins can add notes and remove their own.
Admins with permissions can add notes and remove others notes.

Honestly this would be best taken up on the forums if you think there is foul play afoot (which is a stretch) so we can have a look.

>>164806486
Bring this stuff to the feedback forum if you want him to improve in your eyes as an admin and headmin.

>>164807034
I'll do what I want

>>164806821
I can't even remember the ckey but there's a guy out there that has at least 15 notes of us meming on him because he kept asking to see his notes, so we added more and more every time about him wanting to see his notes. His entire note history, which was multiple pages, was about him asking to see his notes.
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>>164776714
He is the worst everything
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>>164806592
amikawaii
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>>164805961
Oh by the way, don't try to read a spellbook if you're a changeling horror, it fucks you up for whatever reason
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>>164774386
Passive cooling duh.
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>>164806592
WHO DRANK THE MOST MILK 1~1!!~``~!!!!
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Vox Raiders is a fun mode.
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>>164806603
write your ckey right, faggot
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>>164807628
said no one ever

Seriously fuck Pomf for being a lazy fag and leaving it in
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What is SS13's equivalent of LMAO2CAT!!??
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40k round when?
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>>164807628
>>164807720
It's fun for sillycons. Finally get to fight an antag.
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another person thought deep space was a normal location on the vox ship computer and ended the round by accident i think, good riddance anyway vox is cancer
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>>164807784
hand that person a medal desu
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>>164807737
9AI
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>>164806603
Why did you edit this picture?
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>>164808664

Especially since anyone can just retrieve all logs since 2013 in about 5 minutes (less if you have it all set-up in the first place) and can just search them for the strings that aren't filtered out and are unique to the log.
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>>164808925
I don't mean it that way.
He literally made up the logs of Pain editing his notes.
No results.
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I still don't understand bynod syntax, can someone tell me on a scale of 1-10 how hard it'd be to remove the wall from the treadmill? I want to fuck around with it locally
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>>164812362
Spawn a treadmill.
Right click the treadmill.
Click View Variables
Type Density in the top bar so density comes up (or scroll to it)
Click E for Edit.
Type in 0 instead of 1.

If you wanted to do it code wise find the treadmill and make a child obj called /whatever and set its density to 0. literally just this:

obj/machinery/whatever/treadmill/Anons
(PRESS TAB)density = 0

Then type in spawn anons and you''ll have it.
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I think we should just undo all Rule 0 bans desu.
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>that whole fucking round
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>entire round of sec chasing around a monkey.

Really puts things into perspective
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>>164760402
>HOS Sec and Warden are chasing around a fucking monkey
>ITS A LING ITS A LING ITS A LING
>LETHALS BEING SHOT EVERYWHERE
>How do you know its not just a monkey?
>Shut the fuck up Quentin its a ling.

I was this close to fucking snapping that round after every otheir sec officer stunned me and fed me lipozine every five minutes.
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Monkeypower is real
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>>164814438
MONKEY TREADMILL GENERATORS ON VOX SHUTTLE WHEN
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So, what are some cool mixes the bartender can make that have multiple benificial effects? I kinda just realized this is a thing they can do, and Lifeline + Wake up call + Joe is comfy
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>>164814529
TG has a drink that makes your max health 105
We need to steal that
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>>164814529
Anti-freeze for memethermia
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>>164814382
O I N K
I
N
K
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>>164814382
Fuck you Quentin Powers you fat fuck.

If you question the HoS's authority again I will personally rip your head off and shove it down disposals.
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>>164814382
I dont know about anyone else but I only used taser and baton, and there isnt much to argue with when everyone is screaming its a ling including the AI. But I dont know why anyone cared enough to constantly follow you with lipozine though the fat gimmick is pretty funny to me
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>>164814827
>Drug some one
>its not a crime because im da hos
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>>164814827
>sec ways behind you
>draws stun baton and whacks your shit

psssh, nuthin personal kiddo
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>>164814382
>Warden
fuck you I was the only one vouching for your obese ass.
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>>164814268
Dunston Checks In round when
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free kingston
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>be clown
>standing still with my shield
>officer comes, batons my ass, steals the shield and fuck off
>ask for it
>no
>okay
>slip officer
>a hacked mule almosts kills him
>take pda
>space
>minutes laters im in the brig
>escape
>borg cuts my head off
>hides it in the server room
>bolt it
>extended
I know i wasn't completely in the right, but that was stressing
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>>164760402
KAMMERJUNK YOU FUCKING NIGGER

THIS WASN'T FUNNY
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>a total of 3 notes over 2 years of playing
>paranoid about getting banned
>that broadcast at the end
my heart fluttered, not going to lie
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>>164815028
Then why can't I stop laughing.
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>>164815002
oh god damn Im so happy im in this screenshot top right, fucking 4 men and 2 borg stomping a monkey to death and it wont die. Definitely a highlight of my ss13 career
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>>164814960
>Vouch
>Let the HOS go without even asking questions each time I arrest him for drugging.

>Drugging others
>Forcefully or stealthily drugging other crew members without their consent.
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>>164815134
Mine is this.
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>>164815134
top left I meant fuck
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okay i think i'm sick of trying to make bigger bombs, is there something i can do as a scientist that engages the crew other than upgrading machines?
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>>164815224
>forcing my officers to not be fat useless pieces of shit
>a crime

i could just demote your ass, but forcing you to be healthy is more fun
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>>164815227
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>>164815269
Build new machines that do things.
Hand out stuff you can print.

Print 1235256 assault rifles and squaddie armors and start a militia to overthrow the heads.

Build a fortress with teleporters and conveyor belts.
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>>164815368
one of those things will probably get me banned even though it sounds pretty fun, but thanks for the ideas
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>>164815224
you are making it more dramatic than it actually is. It was just HoS giving an officer lipozine because of his fat fuck gimmick
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>>164815337
>He doesn't know about bulking and cutting..

>Useless

>T. man who chased around a monkey for half an hour
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>>164815269
>scientist
>engaging the crew
Why do that when you have literally everything you need

REAL TALK though, print posis/pAIs, deliver weapons to sec rather than just nigging them open for yourself, floral somas for botany MEDBAY TOOLS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
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>>164815354
Fun round, you were a cool guy saigon. Shame im banned
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free kingston
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>>164815269
You could teach them how to make bigger bombs
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>TEEGEE nerfed doctor's delight into uselessness
Why?
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>>164815506
Won't get you banned as long as you don't break the rules.
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>entire security force, borg, and captain spend thirty minutes chasing around an instant regen monkey

>ITS LINGS, ITS GOTTA BE

You guys gotta calm down and enjoy the game, it's not always GET THAT ANTAG
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>>164815561
its either chase a monkey or do nothing, plus it was good practice, i realized it was immortal after the first time it didnt go down to all the laser shots
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FREE kingston

>>164815775
if you could rig up some way of getting a bunch of it in your blood at all times you'd end up being pretty hard to put down
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>>164815775
they nerf anything that could be potentially powergamed (chems, borgs, engineering) as oppose to us we just leave it in (chloral autoinjectors, cargo not being bullshit, R&D not being a unfinishable mess)
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>>164815775
>VEEGEE nerfed clowns into uselessness
Why?
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I'm sorry I was so bad at blob, only get like one chance in a year to play it too...
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>>164815882
A fucking fork outdamages all the healing chemicals you can make at a chemdispenser put together.
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>>164816084
i mean most of the balance changes in this game happen because some coder who plays the game once a month gets robusted by someone doing "thing" and then decides "thing" must need a nerf
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>>164816009
You can't genuinely believe that.
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can one of you guys post that image of the science chick with her shoulder straps to her sides. I need it for reasons.
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>>164816276
provide examples
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kingston reporting in, since dragonbro has been deadminned for being shit (what a surprise) its time to free me for real

>>164816332
mouth knockouts, passive tabling, and quickgrab come to mind
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>>164816332
cargo shuttles smashing crates
the entire lockbox mess
floortiles
toolboxes doing as much damage as a improvised sword
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Cutest officer: helicaster handy
best officer: fred or tom
worst officer: rin
Best warden: trinity
best HOS: nick weller
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>>164816847
>trinity
>best anything
Opinion discarded
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Can anyone outline the actual differences between the /tg/ and /vg/ stations?

It seems just from a glance at their codebase and wiki that they're much more polished and put more thought into everything.
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>>164816847
>trinity best something
that's where you're wrong
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>>164816276
>>164816650
Lockboxes have had issues for years and like half a dozen people have tried reasonable nerfs.

Toolboxes should do 15 force and if you disagree you're a fucking spy from that station we hate.
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>>164817049
who is the best warden then, no one statics warden because its either stressful or boring 90% of the time
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>>164816986
You're not going to get a real answer here, just try both out.
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>>164817113
Quentin
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>>164817125
What makes you play on /vg/ instead of /tg/ (or the other way around)?
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>>164817113
Yred
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>>164816986
/tg/: Combat focused rounds usually end by 13:00
/vg/: Interaction focused rounds usually end by 14:00.

We're both action servers but on /vg/ we try to be a little less valid hungry.

They also have a lot of former /vg/ coders we kicked out so take that as you will.
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>>164817103
there is literally no reason floortiles shouldn't be robust when toolboxes are
you can say both should be robust or both shouldn't be robust
this retarded inversion is illogical
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>>164816329
Oh and I can't find it anywhere. If you point me in the right direction I'd be grateful.
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>>164815224
>Space Drugs, Mindbreaker Toxin, Psicobylin and all types of Ambrosia fall under this.
Fucking weight loss pills with zero effect other than making you less of a fat fuck does not count as 'drugging'.
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>>164817163
hmm id agree with that i guess, he does his job which is more then i can say for some of those fucks
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>tfw want to be The People's Admin
>tfw too busy

I have to face, and I want my spess back.
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>>164816847
gonna add most useless officer: augustus gloop
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>>164817389
Who are you
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>>164817103
I meant the recent lockbox thing a few months ago when both sides when full force autism and pomf had to step it to end it all.
and your telling me someone hitting you with pic related would be about the same as being hit by a metal box
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>>164817476
WeinerMaster69
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>>164817103
lockboxes should be IEDable plain and simple. if every single scientist can strap up before security notices then security deserves to be sub-gunned in the maint tunnels like the redshirted dogs they are. if you really wanted to nerf them i'd suggest making them only open for explosions so that it's a little more apparent they're being blasted open. i dont know the exact force numbers but imo, blue toolboxes should be a little weaker than a screwdriver to the eyes
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What do brewers do, and how do you make them?
When you disassemble a vending machine, does its current recharge pack disappear or is there another way of replacing it with another pack?
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Whats all this about lockboxes now?
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>>164817752
for vendors if you dismantle it then the contents disappear BUT if you use a stack of cardboard (atleast 3) on a vendor with a empty maintenance panel it store the contents into a recharge pack
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>>164817680
>>164817575
Yeah I wasn't there for it thankfully. Lockboxes and cargo crates suck to talk about because no one wants to concede anything. Scientists think that they have a god given right to graytide and security thinks that no one should be allowed no matter the effort.

>>164817752
Order the circuit board from cargo. They brew brews.
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>>164817959
What kind of brews?
Coffee, tea, etc?
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free kingston

>>164817251
i honestly agree with the floortile nerf because back when they were robust every fucker on the station had 40 in his pack and it made a lot of other styles of fighting useless

>>164817575
have you ever seen a toolbox in real life? they're like 8 pounds of steel
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>>164818026
Theres three machines that cover 3 kinds of things. Sodas, liquors, and cafe drinks.
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>>164817959
>Anti Beneficial Egg Antibodies
There are only a few dozen people on the entire world that can understand this sentence.
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>>164818139
Look if someones mad that they're shitting eggs they don't care about the wording and I don't care about them I just don't want them to kill me.
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>>164818047
bree bingsten xxd
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>>164812809
probe

If I made an edit on github how likely would this be pushed? I feel like having a treadmill without walls could be amazing

>treadsmills in high traffic areas
>treadmill engine possibilities
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>>164818518
It depends on what you're doing.

It depends on if you can make a compelling case about treadmills.

But first may I ask you if you have any strong feelings about belts?
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>>164818518
>>164818640
while you're at it add tying people to conveyors back in
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>>164818640
belts are just there to keep people moving on the treadmill for monkey engines

If I shot people across these treadmills with lets say a field generator, it could be a whole new meme engine bro
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free kingston

>>164816332
just remembered one of my all time favorites that some shitstain coder ruined for no reason, the chloral hypo into present wrap gimmick. one time i trapped like 10 people in one room using it, and then someone goes and completely ruins it by making anyone able to break out of the wrapping instantly
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>>164817575
Smashing someone in the head with a toolbox would be very lethal seeing as the brain doesn't handle heavy force that well.
You would most certainly lose consciousness pretty fast if someone is wailing at you with a toolbox.

A sword will naturally have a much higher chance of lethally wounding you because of blood loss but a toolbox will easily kill a human if given a few well placed swings to the skull.
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>>164816986

The biggest difference between /vg/ and /tg/ is that /vg/ has both a jukebox and the ability to build sound systems to listen the dj station music while doing your shit. This is why a lot of people prefers to play on the server just for the sake of creating party areas and just having a good time. It's perfect if you just want to build shit.

/tg/'s coders are for the most part people that used to code here for /vg/ until they got kicked out for trying to shove in bad shit nobody wanted. They have a say on everything, and don't care much about what people want. /vg/ on the other side have people asking the userbase what they want and if they're alright with it.

As for the players, /tg/ has people that will valid hunt you for the slightest thing while /vg/'s folks won't care as much and some will gladly help you out depending on what style of antagonist you are. People will love you if you emag the juke
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>>164815018
Psst
Clowns that slip are valid like salad
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I need something more fancy next time
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>>164818934
>wrap someone
>they can't ever break out
>this is fine bcuz muh gimmix
yes i'm sure it was some butthurt coder that was the only reason
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>>164816847
this better be ana or avada posting this so I can jerk off to it later
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>>164819194
How about 30 seconds to break out or something like that?
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>>164818736
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>>164819194
you could break out with wirecutters
also they were still fully functional inside, could use radio etc, one time i was doing it and wrapped a vampire and he misted out and murdered me. so it wasn't completely horrible for them.
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>acquire woop woop helm
>wear said helm because sec shit kept end of deal being slid under flaps
>Wear helmet for a while
>return janicart
>get blindsides by a shitcurity and hos
>raymond ray the faggiest sec guard
>Goes full autism to the point it makes the clown look smart
>get hit to shit n back with stuns left and right
>hos says good work
>mfw the fuckig guard gave it to me yet they claimed it was stolen
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>>164815768
I don't think I could teach anyone how to make bombs unless they are advanced to a certain point. I had to go a lot of steps to get where I am (dev 22) and learning all that stuff at once seems impossible. I don't mean this arrogantly, like I am smarter than other people. I just don't think I'm capable of teaching what I currently know about bomb making unless someone is already able to make above dev10 bombs.
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>>164819354
how the fuck do i make the jump from 8 dev to even breaking double digits? do i need to start cooling the O2 a fuck ton to get more O2 in my canisters?
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>>164819346
do not bully raymond ray, he is the resident retard and needs a job to not be a burden to the state
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>>164819346
Nice try, he said one woop and then to return it.
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>>164819354
TEACH BOMBS
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>>164819471
Overfilling past 1013kpa is the big leap.
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>>164819354
>guuuys the ideal gas law is SUPER HARD i'm an above intelligentz person and I couldn't even teeach youu
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>>164819346
All I knew was that my officer said you stole his helmet so I put a warrant out. I went to go see if the chef was actually doing HIS job and saw you.
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free kingston
>>164819354
since when was bomb making any more complicated than get lots of hot gas in one tank and lots of colder gas in another? like just share what your ratio, mix and temps are and everyone should be able to figure it out pretty easily.
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>>164819354
you have intelligence issues if you can't write a simple step-by-step guide on how to do it honestly
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>>164819501
He never specified the amount of wooping that I could do. He said that I could have the helmet on one condition, if I slid him under the flaps. so, I did and he threw me the helmet. End of story.
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>>164819563
is it really just that? if so, thanks for the motivation. once i'm done being burnt out maybe i'll try and make some big ones
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guys if Im security and someone says "hey" to me am I allowed to harm baton them to death?
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>>164819710
Oh, god that's a picture I wish I forgot about seeing back in the day. I met the artist once, she's bit of a twatwaffle.
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minions roundtype when
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>>164819579
how do i even apply the ideal gas law to bomb making? i'm pretty much just making cool o2 and hot plasma and seeing what sticks
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>asimov borg perfunctorily drags a dead wizard to medbay
>i actually clone them
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>>164819579
See, this is what I'm talking about. the ideal gas law has very little to do with it, the important stuff is the quirks with canisters, tanks, and what actually happens when you mix oxygen and plasma at different temperatures.
>>164819656
probably.
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>>164819667
You asked for at least one woop and he gave it to you for the one woop and you ran off with it.
I saw the whole thing as the borer inside his head.
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>>164820061
TEACH BOMBS
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>>164819354
>>164819471
>>164819520
>>164819627
>>164819656
>>164819943
>>164820061
Not the other toxins poster but I'm writing babby's first memebook on toxins going from the basic techniques, to eventually in depth to the autism shit.

Release in the library soon(tm).

>>164819707
>>164819563
Be careful with doing it on station, as it could cause a single tank explosion and a ding dong bannu if you fuck up majorly.
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>>164820061
>the ideal gas law has very little to do with it, the important stuff is how to use the ideal gas law to overfill tanks and the ideal gas law
hmm
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>>164820156
bombs are absurdly easy. i made 7 dev my first bomb with just the wiki instructions
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here you faggots go

>>164820061
There's some sort of bug with maxing cannisters out with atmos, you can fill like 12k PSA with super chilled/super hot whatever gases

just apply it with the standard 2:1 mix and bing super massive bombs bro
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>>164819707
Yes. Once you can overfill your tanks past 1013kpa and keep increasing the number of mols in your end mix, that's the last step.
I'm don't actually do bombs myself, just read a lot about other bomb-makers on /vg/.
If I wasn't banned I would probably do my tests again, I was always too lazy to do the math and I just winged it.
Legend has it, heaters and freezers on their own can reach 13 dev. In the current code working, 32 dev isn't possible due to slight weird things in the code and not just being able to reach the required things properly 100% legit. If a glitch to be able to REALLY overfill the tanks exists, you could go way over though, but I'm not sure one does.
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>>164820202
plasma is a magical substance that literally makes co2 out of nothing when it is combined with oxygen. the ideal gas law is not relevant at all for 2/3 of the bomb making because of this.
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>>164820201
whats the title gonna be so i can find it in the future?
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>>164820396
Title that's I'm going for right now is "The Mechanics of Bomb Making - Verbose Edition Vol I".

Most likely gonna come up with something better so search author Viktor Kedrov/Bobda in like a weeks time when it'll be done.
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>bomb making is hard
t. scientist

meet me in the atmos after school room fucker i'll show you who's the king of this playground
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>>164820373
so, obviously cool O2 is easy with a spaceloop, now, for hot plasma, currently i use a the burn chamber+heater mix and the person teaching me warned me to not heat past 1500. is that the true limit for plasma temp or can i get it any higher?
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>>164820380
You are aware that absolutely none of that is magical, right? It's literally just a fucking fuel gas.
When you see posts saying "BUT I COMBIENED THE SUPER HOT OXYGEN AND THE SUPER HOT PLASAM!!" you realize the ideal gas law is 90% of what people don't understand.
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>>164820061
you're missing the point, only a few autists actually care about the inner workings of ss13s gas simulation, most of us just want a step to step big bomb guide. it sounds like the secret is just forcing gas into shit with atmos pumps or mixing hot with cold to get higher pressures in single tanks though.
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>>164820608
>plasma and oxygen combine
>the oxygen turns into a larger molar mass of co2
>the molar mass of the plasma is unaffected
how is that not magic? are you retarded?
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free kingston
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>>164816329
Try the booru in the op, it might have it.
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Don't use the burn chamber. Your plasma only needs to be 100-110 C and this is easily obtainable with a heater (and in fact much easier).
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>>164820591
I heard once the best method is to do some math and mix both plasma and oxygen in one tank and make it very cold. Then have one very hot tank with a high SHC. You can fit a fucking tonne of mols at -270c, it's just reaching the right temperature of hot gas to bring your total temperature up to 100c (which was the ceiling I hit because I don't know how to heat past 8k.)
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Legitimate question, not trying to stir up shit, if notes can contribute to a permanent ban why are they allowed to be deleted freely at will?

It's actually a little concerning.
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>>164821048
this is one place where pv=nrt is important. when you make the hot tank a lot hotter while holding the volume a constant the molar mass decreases. so in effect, the hotter gas has a smaller molar mass (and therefore heat capacity) and you end up not really changing anything.
>>164820618
this is a fair point, but unless you understood up to the point i've understood the variations within a single degree celsius is enough to cause your bomb to fizzle unless you make the adjustments. the adjustments are hard to explain without understanding what's going on.
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>>164821181
Because you aren't part of the metacomms
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>>164821181
ss13 admin teams are just collections of friends, a lot of people tend to think of them as somehow being professional or accountable but just lol. notes exist so that players they dont like get them stacked up on their accounts and then one day whoops youve got 15 notes!!! permabanned shitter!!! meanwhile if you're their friend, ah that's just so and so, what a character.

i griefed goonstation for years because i was friends with a couple of the admins and whenever i went too far and got myself banned they just lifted it, at one point i (allegedly) had the most notes of any player on the server but nobody did anything about it because the admins didnt want to step on each others toes. t. kingston
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>>164820764
>combustible gas + fuel for combustion = successful combustion
HOLY SHIT IT'S MAGIC!!
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>>164821181
Admins are supposed to ignore old notes, apparently. But from what I've seen, they don't.
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where can i apply my bomb thinking in real life? terrorism?
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>>164821310
Thats why you need the overpressurization and glitches. Enough mols and temperature to heat you very cold bomb mix.
A lot of the time I'm disappointed in myself for not doing the math, but when you spend 75% of your time doing it as work, kind of want to take a break from everything for space.
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>>164821686
Make soda bottles go boom. Much safer than terrorism and cheaper too!
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>>164821509
>a smaller molar mass of oxygen creates a larger molar mass of carbon dioxide
>there's over twice as many oxygen atoms and the carbon was created from literally nothing
anon...
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>>164821917
can i use the ideal gas law for that?
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>>164821686
You can learn some basic physics and then study physics and learn.
Bomb making IRL is slightly different.
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>>164822173
you telling me real life bombs arent made of plasma and oxygen?
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>>164822336
No I'm telling you that bomb making IRL is more chemistry and not just gas and pressure.
What you said is common sense.
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>>164787576
Fucking please, yes

I want to bring all the mats to science but it's a chore to split metal and glass and plasteel and plasma glass and reinforced glasses don't even work.
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>>164822407
so i should start playing chem?
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>mrpain
>curver's ban appeal
>what has been said has been said and sawbones should lift it if he wants
>puts it in closed

dumbass
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>>164821048
well, I'm reaching 22 with a heat tank that's around 1000c and a cold tank that's around -150c (both after overpressurization). so if this is viktor then our production methods are actually apparently quite different and I wouldn't mind sharing notes some time.
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could you: cool plasma, overpressurize, THEN heat back up? or will that cause a rupture?
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>>164823382
That ain't me but it makes sense.

My main method of making bombs is the over-pressurisation one, while I was gonna test what that anon just said.
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>>164823637
tanks will blow if they go above like 4500(?) kpa
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>>164823932
that for all of them or just plasma or just oxygen?
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>>164823932
Tanks leak at 3040kpa~, rupture (get destroyed but not explode) at 4050kpa~ and explode at 5060kpa~.
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>>164823679
>>164823382
I hate it when bomb-makers just talk about temperature of their mix. End game it's just number of mols and breaking the ignition point. The temperatures you reach don't matter as long as you have that ratio and a high number.
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>>164823932
WUT

t. someone who gets 12ka -250c plasma all the time for engines
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>>164824050
>>164824003
>>164823994
all i know is that one time i got permabanned from a server because i accidentally ignited some hellfire in atmos fucking around with a plasma canister and some tanks

free kingston
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>>164824123
Well that server is a shit

>socket wrench the plasma miner
>make 3 layer manifolds, 12 thermal plates, 3 pipes and a volume pump connect to a port
>build a cannister from metal
>turn on volume pump
>literally space cold plasma pumps up to 12k kpa
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>>164823637
There's no actual way to heat the tank after it's been overpressurized. you're onto something though, i use some cooled plasma in the cool tank (I can't tell you the ideal ratio because I don't know). but, because plasma has a massively higher heat capacity than oxygen, you can overpressurize the cold tank by adding cold plasma that is still hotter than oxygen (for instance, oxygen cooled to -260c and plasma cooled to only -60c)
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>>164824026
beyond ignition, temperature matters precisely because temperature is a factor in how many mols you can squeeze into a tank with a constant volume and a maximum pressure. pv=nrt
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>>164824373
yes but saying 'my overpressurized tanks at -100c and 200c' tells anyone anything about the size of the bomb you're getting out.
Now if you tell me you're getting 25mol at 170c and 55mol at -120, I know you're hitting around an 8dev, and you can actually work with it to help improve what they're doing.
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Sometimes my game view freezes, all sounds and animations stop playing, and I can make it update if I change the view settings but only once per change

I restarted the client window and it was still the same when I rejoined the game.

I closed every part of BYOND and restarted it. I had sound but still no animation or updates to the screen.

The text window on the side is fine throughout. I can talk to people nearby, talk on OOC, interact with worn objects etc. Clicking on anything in the game view e.g. my backpack, nearby objects doesn't do anything.

Why does this happen, and how can I recover from it? Am I just fucked?
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bombtism is so much better than cryotism
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>>164815775
>dd
>not already useless as is
It's useless no matter what medical codebase you're using. I don't bother with the shit when I play med because it simply serves no purpose to a doctor.

My question is, how the fuck did they make DD somehow even MORE fucking useless?
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>>164824867

Don't use the beta client. V 510.1347 works for me.
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>>164825001
I'll do that, thanks
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>>164824620
I understand what you're saying, but on the other hand, if you are at or near max pressure, you know what the volume of the tanks are, and you know your temperature, you can easily solve for molar mass (it's the only variable left). another way to look at it is you can determine the size of the bomb exclusively with the temperature assuming the person is hitting the tank pressure caps.
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>>164824894
Bombtism has a fairly hard to reach end goal, anyone arguing that the base cryo shouldn't be 30 30 12-15 1-5 [filler] is just autistic and doesn't understand anything about the game.
A lot of players put time into min-maxing it with trials and code digging, if you go against that you're just fucking gay senpai.
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>>164825138
source: i can make huge fucking bombs and barely if ever record my molar masses
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>finally managed to escape from /vg/

screw you guys, i'm staying on Polaris
/vg/ a shit, filled with hippie faggots and TG retards, literally nothing redeeming about it or different from them
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>>164825285
The point of the game is to killing the antags you fucking retard. Not pretend to be some Islamic Chaplain on a holy crusade or some shit.
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>>164825285
ok
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>>164825285
okay
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>>164825285
Fantastic and wholesome bait there, friend.
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>>164825285
>polaris

Spot the Baybie

Enjoy getting banned for picking up a pair of insulated gloves.

Yes that happened to me on Bay.
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>>164825285
>polaris

NO ONES GONNA MISS YOU, YA HRP SNOWFLAKE BABBY!
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>>164825138
That's the thing, it's assumptions.
I hate working on assumptions and estimates, because they're wrong. Gimmi the hard facts. Plus it involves me actually doing arithmatic instead of just memory recall and well, the willpower to do math comes at a price of my soul.
>>164825260
We just work different mentally I guess.
three years of learning chemistry changes a man
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>>164825285

You didn't escape from /vg/

You are only running away from yourself and your true wish for fun
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>>164825696
Here's another (you) for ya nigger.
Hope you choke on it you fat fuck.
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QUENTIN NO
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>on the edge of the pacid cloud
>survive without a scratch
>hear at least three layered screams as people get fucking melted
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>>164825830
please do not self shill
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>>164815623
im saigon, im not the one who posted that pick. rip u ;_;
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>>164825206
ayy
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>tfw quentin has become a fucking me
>tfw he was a ling sec last round
>tfw he cannibilised corpses
>tfw it all makes sense
>tfw my reaction image is quentin
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>>164831020
this post is so bad i can't parse it
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>>164831020
>>164825830
please stop.
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>>164831020
Do you and your sister get weighed in the shower?
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bretty gud sec crew/10
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>>164831386
Don't
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>>164831464
your monkey was a little asshole and didnt deserve a funeral
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>>164831464
I very much hope you fags listened to the music while the euology was being dealt, it made it much better.
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>>164760402
>be me
>unzip backpack
>all of my pAIs start firing lasers into everyone
>psst, nothing personnel kids
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>>164831463
Well now someone has to post it
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>>164831491
Link to music?

I have fucking DSL in 2017, so I didnt have the bandwidth to listen and play.
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>>164831464
When I was in space the casket came by and hit the west side of the station.
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>>164831543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uka8ykFDw2U
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>>164831543
I got an e-mail from my ISP informing me that I'm eligible to be upgraded from shitty copper to fibre yesterday

Soon, I will not know your pain
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>>164831878
>Land Lord Refuses to upgrade because to redo the lots they would have to dig up a road they didn't lay any conduit pipe under.
>Infastructure is so shit, its literally an insulated wire in the ground under concrete slabs
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So what is this server like compared to other servers like /tg/?

How different from baycode is it?
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>>164825830
>>164831020
>>164831318

I'm being false flagged and meta bullied.
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http://a.pomf.cat/ikwgqd.txt
http://a.pomf.cat/fcdvya.txt

marvel in the shittiness
http://a.pomf.cat/kryjoj.txt
https://a.pomf.cat/uxsyvo.txt
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>>164832352
FUCK OFF TG REFUGEE
NOT OUR FAULT YOUR SERVER IS GETTING TAKEN OVER BY SHITTY ADMINS
WE ALREADY HAVE TOO MANY OF YOU DAFT FUCKERS
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>>164832028
You have my sympathy, your only option is to eventually move places
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>>164818736
Yred shitposted telesci powergaming in his own notes. Aurx deleted them
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>>164832352
It's got bay medical, but there some major differences like cold and the thermal homeostasis regulator (the mancrowave which has an emag funtimes list of settings). Additionally, I'm not certain of this for other servers but on /vg/ if you collect alien body parts you can put them on spessmen for aesthetics, with a few bits that actually have function like Vox legs and catbeast eyes.

Also, catbeasts are valid at all times to everyone, and everyone will murder them on sight regardless of occupation
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>>164832352
>compared to other servers like /tg/
no liggers
no digitigrade legs
no gang
no retarded arguments about the captain's sabre
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>>164832692
Well Mr smartypants what IS the correct recipe for a cryomix?
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>>164833295
all cryomixes are wrong
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>>164833334
I understand now.
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>>164833295
If only we had a compilation of information telling people exactly how cryo functions and how to deal with that.
>>
What'd I miss
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>>164833926
Yeah but the concept of "right" is ever changing.
Two years ago right was adding dex plus and keloderma.
Now it is not right.
Right was once 1u of every chemical with a bunch of iron or water but now it isn't.
How long until what you think is right is the new wrong?
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>>164834053
Teenage romance
>>
>go hit up chemistry for some mutagen
>"One second please, my coworker is about to cut off his arm"
This game
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>>164834070
>Right was once 1u of every chemical with a bunch of iron or water
That was never right, it wad thread theorycrafting, never saw it happen in-game
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>>164834053
NEXIPOO
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>>164832692
>Avada has made leagues more chloral than any other Chen

Gee what a big surprise, the neon haired insufferable selfshilling waifu fucktard is a complete and utter shitter. Never saw it coming.

It takes a LOT to be the biggest moron on this player base, and yet they've scooped up the crown with ease.
>>
>>164835041
What other Chens are there?
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>>164832692
Hey chemanon, how do you get these results? I wanna know what my chems are without asking every few days
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>>164832692
>second most made chem after chloral is hyperzine
>IN 5U PILLS
How
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>>164835041
chen
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>>164832692
please do Nigglywiggly
I want to see just how little I touch chem stuff
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>>164835168
>>164835404
tomorrow I'm already in bed
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bretty gud round.

neener/10
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BLOOD
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>unique pink hair colour and a minor theft turned into both vampires getting caught
I fucking love the advanced security cameras
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>>164832542
Quentin kill yourself you FAT FUCK

I'm gonna metabully your fat ass ALL DAY
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>Clown is brigged with two guards
>Askes for double timed sentence
>Suddenly squeezes through the door(?)
>Dodges past both guards tazes
>Slips them and escapes
>Turns around in the hall way and runs back in "Hah just kidding"
>Helps them up
>Dodges their tazers as he runs back into his cell and shuts the door

What the FUCK did I just watch
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>>164836215
Actually...

I released him, I Francis, to fuck a bit with the other guard, I just run around while Handy just tried to tase him to shit and missed, I "accidentally" opened all the doors to the main hallway, once we returned, I opened the door again.

that other guard actually didn't know what happened.

Also he was cuffed.
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>>164834053
Are you back among us, eggman?
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>latejoin CE
>command engineering to setup singulos in bar
>captain "MORE POWER"
>about to be activated
>captain "CE IS ROGUE"

When can captains be lynched
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>>164836478
it was the AI who panicked.
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>>164836478
I didn't tell you to set up a singulo in the fucking bar you retard.

Is your name Liltiptop aka Nick Weller by any chance?
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>>164836307
Not tonight, but PJB's been nudging me to add a PR testing function to watchdog and I have to yell at Pomf to put his latest watchdog code on github. I might pop in tomorrow.
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>>164836681
no, It's Vince Mosser

and the AI was always panicking, I had to calm it's tits everytime until the CAPTAIN STARTED PANICING THEN THE HOS TASED ME
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>>164837165
Please we need a good coder/head coder, not people like Cluster who just merges shit without asking or doesn't allow shit to get merged because he doesn't like it
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>>164836215
>What the FUCK did I just watch

An indredible edible meme
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>>164836478
>AI
>NT Default
>Perfectly fine with you building things in the bar
>Not fine with letting you destroy the bar by turning on the singulo
I'm not sure what you were expecting
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>do some ultra retarded shit every round
>immediately check the ban page

kek
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unban 2hotbutts
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>>164837371
I've never heard of a clown named Sliced Bread.
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>>164838836
it was pomf's clown
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>>164838836
>>164838913
Deepest Lore
>>
Bound object is a blast as wizard. Way more fun than murderboning.
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>>164802096
I'm certain the "don't post if you're not involved rule" came purely because of morena and a few other people pain disliked because they often disagreed with him on the forums.
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>wizard brings the eye to the station.
>tells the crew about the eye and leaves it in the middle of the bar.
>no one uses it as they proceed to fuck up the entire station.
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>>164816847
Trinity doesn't and never did play warden

Nick is a shitty player that should be HoS banned and needs somebody to tell him to calm down every other round
Rin is not the worst officer on /vg/, they're in the top 3 but there's worse
Cutest officer should be Ailsa
>no detective
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>>164839915
>Ailsa
Your opinion is trash.
>>
Do good engineers just evolve into mommis? because there are very few engineers that know what the fuck they're doing, it seems only MoMMIs know how to setup all the engines.

and I now want to be a mommi to go full autismo and forget you flesh animals
>>
Killette ban appeal, he doesn't really say sorry. He basically says he acts like shit because he hates rpers. Which is a community choice to roleplay more, admins aren't enforcing it. So in the end he's going to continue being shit because he's not enjoying how others enjoy the game. Zealotron and Serwind of course said unban him, I like serwind as a player. Pain adresses rumours of Killete's ban evading, we all know the account kilozombie on github is killette.

http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3424
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>>164834375
I had seen it several times around 2014-2015 And each time I didn't trust my doctors to use it so I would redo it.
>>
I want to play sec sometimes but I've abandoned my humanity forever.

How good of an idea is it to play as a non-human security officer, and how often do you think I would get law 2 meme'd?
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>>164840108
mommis are also tards
I'm constantly fighting with people over fucking SMES settings because they always insist on turning them into power sinks
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>>164840624
Depends which kind of non-human

Sec borgs are usually bros to the sec team and the AI should let you into places because they want their proxy valids
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>>164805047
>braindead
>its le bad to mind my own business and not go to the main station to help at "trouble"
Whats your problem anon? No acces for shittery?
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>>164840316
>we all know the account kilozombie on github is killette.
The fact that Pain and others believe this meme actually has me worried I'm gonna get rule 0'd out of nowhere for being an alt of somebody I don't even know.
I've used kilozombie since like 2006, christ
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>>164840624
>how often do you think I would get law 2 meme'd?
Every time you arrest someone and there's a borg.

>Borg law 2 kill that non-human
>beep beep kill confirmed
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>>164841424
>deliberate inconvenience borgs
>bros
t. instalock sec borg
>>
All this meddling with the git is really making my client cry, I can't even push to my fork anymore.
Telling me some ~13k commits have gone missing, wew.
What the fuck have you been doing?
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>>164842725
I guess I've just played with nice borgs then, although I've only ever seen non sec borgs do a harm meltdown and bolt half of the brig
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>>164843074
Were you not here for the DMCA?
Pomf's repo got shut down temporarily and all existing forks got re-parented to some other repo that hadn't been touched in like two years.

The only fix is for you to re-fork Pomf's repo.
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>>164843257
I did that recently and everything was fine again.
I've been periodically pulling from pomfs repo it's just yesterday when i tried to push to a new branch on mine it has completely shit itself.

I may have to torch mine to the ground again.
Thank fuck i edited only a single file this time.
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>>164837346
>nexis
>good coder
laughingsilicons.exe
>>
60 MW out of 3 shards

Shame the AI didn't want to shock dudes
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>>164844517
that's pitiful, really, REALLY bad

you want to be aiming for 500MW to sit comfy, if not more
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>>164843257
>DMCA
Not him, but I only recently returned to spess, so I missed that.
What was that all about?
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>>164844610
I can get that out of a really lazy shard config and a single collector.
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>everytime I'm CE I make crazy requests
>I WANT 4 SINGULOS
>20 MW OF POWER MINIMUM
>MOVE THE TEG TO THE BAR

and the engineers do it, it's glorious
>>
>>164844670
After the Goonecode was leaked, Goon released an official version of their code for other servers to use. We took some code from that official version. Among the code we took was a single script about 100 lines long that served no purpose except to run some external program, I don't remember all the details.

Anyway, the guy who wrote it decided to be a memelord and issued DMCA claims to all codebases who happened to take that script from Goon's release. Github, in their infinite wisdom, instead of giving us a couple of days to remove the script (which we would've done because we didn't even need it and could've wrote our own if we did), decided to immediately take down every repo the guy made a claim against.

He rescinded the DMCA claims after someone on /vg/ memed him back by doxxing him and telling all his friends and family that he hosted a CP website.
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>>164840316
>Notes from 1+ year ago still affect you

That's a meme. As far as I can tell, admins can recognize when a player's grown vs being a shitter that tries to toe the line for a year.
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>>164844947
>20mw of power minimum
>crazy request
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>>164845072
bruh, I've been playing for years and RARELY see people break 1MW, one time I saw 10MW and 12MW.
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>>164845128
you're dumb
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>>164845128
you have no experience, or you've been playing for years and have learned nothing
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>>164845152
No you

>>164845193
SME is a meme engine
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>>164845232
american can't into units, what did I expect
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>>164845329
I don't speak units shit skin
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>>164845128
Are you sure you're not thinking of GW?
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>>164845004
Actually, the file the DMCA was over wasn't in the release. Legally, the DMCA was valid. Just a real dick move.
Also, he at least claimed to have submitted the retraction BEFORE the doxxing.
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>>164845004
I've come to expect this level of faggotry from github, in their defense their logo is a massive hint they're spineless, being an invertebrate and all.
Not to mention the free service but i suspect even being a premium user they would still blindly obey.

Can you even access your own repo after it's been destroyed by a dmca? I've never had the pleasure.
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>>164845521
Did we take it from the actual leak, then? I didn't know we took anything from the non-official release.
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>>164845576
Not sure whether Pomf himself could access it, but no one else could.

Unless you mean after the DMCA is lifted, in which case everyone could still access it, but it fucked over everyone's fork by re-parenting it which sucked.
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>>164845653
Yes, we did.
Don't remember if we took anything else that wasn't released, though. Probably not.
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>>164845232
>SME is a meme engine
>requests 4 singulos
carbons please
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>>164840316
??
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>>164845004
Remember when Celt threw a hissy on the forums and threatened to ban whomever doxxed the dmca kid?
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>>164845985
To be fair, doxxing people is pretty shit, even if 'we' are le ebin anonymoose
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>>164843789
At least he tried to add substantial new shit, unlike most other coders.
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I want to comeback to spess for fun as a player but couldn't because I'll code again and become inactive.

Is nexis gone again?

Hi pomf I see that you're still here!

IconLeap
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>>164846216
just bitch on github like everyone else, don't code and you'll live

nexis has been MIA for a long time, but showed up in this thread a bit ago

the chicken is still up and running

join us iconleap
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>>164846216
>because I'll code again and become inactive
You could ask Pomf to repo-ban you.

>Is nexis gone again?
Currently. But he posted in the thread earlier today so I imagine he'll come back soon.
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>>164846216
I too am back in the coder saddle, babysteps though.
I enjoy looking at my PR history, not a single bug report about my stuff, thats probably a bad sign.
>>
Whats the diffrince between splicing and purging with the plant machines?
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>>164846390
Splicing combines, purging replaces.
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>>164846295
>just bitch on github like everyone else, don't code and you'll live

Souds fun!

>>164846341
Typical nexis then haha

>>164846381
That's a good thing though.
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>>164846493
So you can pretty mutch just purge a gene and afterwards at another gene with splicing? Pretty mutch replaced the last gene with 2 diffrint genes?
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>>164846617
Yes? Read the guide to xenobotany.
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Post dank space memes
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>>164846216
I MISSED YOU ICONGAY
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>>164840316
That isn't what I said. I said I'm sorry and you can ctrl+F sorry to see, you did not read my appeal.

I do not hate RP, I disliked how people just put on an outfit then proceeded to do a ton of nothing. While that is a player choice, it felt more like people were just standing around waiting for a chance to validhunt more than actually RPing rather than doing fun things more often such as perform plays, magic shows, grand construction projects. Yes these things still happened but it became too seldom.
>>
How to reach those stable 350 degree inside SME?
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>>164847837
AAC scripts.
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>>164846617
Yes, you can completely purge a plants genes and give it new ones up to the amount you want. Is there any gene specifically you'd like to ask about? I am rusty but I still should be familiar
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>>164848104
ditch the trip killette
>>
>killette is back
Hide your waifus, the trashman is back.
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>>164848348
No, it is temporary. I do not use the thread with this one exception regarding my ban appeal.

I will only take the trip off regarding botany if that helps, as that is unneeded
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>>164849092
That is the whole dang reason for me to ask you to drop the trip, course you can keep it on for when its needed, but botany autism isn't a valid reason to use one.
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>>164847569
>it felt more like people were just standing around waiting for a chance to validhunt
While I'm sure there were people who did that, you should also keep in mind that reactive RPing is much easier than active RPing.
That is to say, RPing a reaction to something happening to you is easier than RPing an action that you have to take initiative and perform.

Some of those people were probably just waiting for something interesting to happen TO them, instead of making something interesting happen.
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>>164847569
A bit fucking ironic considering all i've ever seen you do is hide in botany with your fucking plants and never contribute to a round in any way.
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>>164849723
I mean, shit, anon is right. That is hypocritical as fuck.
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>>164849723
I stated maining botany after late 2015 and I stated my opinions on that year in my ban appeal. I used to play clown, chef, engi, sci, and atmos tech longer ago. No I did not contribute while doing botany but I did not validhunt either, I was neutral like an observer so it neither helped nor harmed and I was not vocal about my complaints as much then either

>>164849541
This is fine too, but validhunting to a degree made antags unwilling to do the more fun things because they feared the risk of being taken out of the round early on
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>>164834053
Over a year of people saying they miss you.
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>>164837165
Avert thine eyes from the issue counter for it is a horror not meant for thee.
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>>164834053
Save us
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This felt really good
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>>164851515
ICK
OCK
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>>164842370
>>164847569
Killete why respond twice to the same post. Also why use a trip, not even morena tripped.
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>>164851515
>Rin gets thrown into the singularity
Perfect.
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>>164850506
This is a good point.
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>>164851786
I don't know what morena did, but this is for my ban appeal since I was told it was posted in the thread. My trip shouldn't affect you because otherwise I neither post, not even read the thread ever
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>>164852038
It's worth the day ban lad
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>>164802515
Thanks man
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>>164851515
PINNED
>>
We spat in the face of God and paid a heavy price for it.

Never again should a singularity be built in a toilet.
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Wish plants could launch their fruit at you.
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>>164852925
What a shitty thing to do.
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>>164853020
>31 potency only
senpai, 100+ or go home
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>>164853148
Its still early development and experimentation anon-san.
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>>164853020
Me too
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues/8891
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It's like anudda shoah!
Remember the six gorillion feature requests!
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>>164850506
Well that's a little better.
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>>164853771
I stopped at Jan. 7th, 2016.

If your feature request is over a year old then I think we know the answer on whether it will be coded.
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>>164850148
You are so full of shit and I hope an admin with a brain sees that.
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>>164854462
Why not point out why in the ban appeal? You have nothing to hide but your identity
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>>164854634
And that's exactly what I'm hiding. I don't need to be added to a list of people Zealotron & his metaclub are going to try and get banned.
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>>164854809
Why not make a dummy account just for that thread?
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>>164854809
This is paranoia
>>
>>164854914
Because then Pain will forum ban it for posting in a thread I have no involvement in. And even if he doesn't, Zealotron would just shitpost to try and devalue anything I say.
>>164854958
Hardly, Killette is Zealotron's buttbuddy and he's been defending him ever since he got banned.
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>>164766742
Whats bad with progress bars?
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>>164855253
You don't need involvement in a ban request to provide a voice. Your claim you are scared of people devaluing your post so you don't put value in it in the first place for some reason. Nobody has ever been banned by a metaclub for being disliked. The only reason to not use your name is if you think people hate you more than the person in question you are trying to defame and you should ask why is that.
>>
>try game because looks good
>enter
>no idea what to do
help
>>
>>164855705
TermedClepe
now your entire post is devalued
>>
>>164855701
They were from /tg/, I thought they were ugly, and I called everyone that needed them a casual.

In retrospect nothing and a toggle was added so I'd shut up.

>>164855736
>>164760402
>>New player guide
>http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
>http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

Press F1 to ask admins a question if it's anything to do with the current round. Do not post anything about the current round in the thread, OOC, or outside of it until the round finishes. We're nofun about spoiling what's happening.
>>
>>164855736

The wiki has a newbie guide.

http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Guides

Follow it. Don't go through all of it - just the basics and rules. Then get the controls figured out as an assistant or something.
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>>164855798
You can appeal your ban just like I did
Honestly I don't remember what you did or if this is really you, but I remember seeing your name a decent amount of time
I also don't understand what specifically you have against me but I probably did something
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>>164856160
I'm not Termed, I'm using his name as an example of someone who was banned because people didn't like him. The admins severely nitpicked his behaviour and when they couldn't find a legit reason they banned him anyway.
I'm just someone who saw you around over the last year and saw through the bullshit that was your appeal.
>>
>>164855736
If you'd be willing to play with like minded individuals, we could give you a place in our club for this game. If you choose to become a valued member, we can offer you such services as:

- Live in game voice comms (using discord's web client - no installs needed!)
- Priority treatment in medbay, including cloning and surgery
- An unparrelled level of hints and information about the on going round as they happen, including antagonist activities, and the locations of the best gear on the station as it's found.
- Monthly allowance of forum posts to defend you from any injustice from all of our esteemed members
- Revenge service if someone in game wrongs you, which ranges from removal from the game to permanent lynching and banning

All we usually ask is that you're open about yourself, and willing to help every club member as best you can as well with observations and information in rounds you play.

The longer you stay and the more you can offer, the more benefits you'll find open up to you. It really changes the game from a 'you vs the station' to an 'us vs MrPain' and I can't imagine playing it any other way anymore.
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>>164856732
He was banned because he had a terrible attitude and repeatedly griefed the station as a non antag.
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>>164856823
Fresh pasta?
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>>164856732
Why are you so afraid of being banned? This is like living in Germany as a jew in ww2 if you also have the option of safely moving to and living somewhere else.
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>>164856823
ok
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Why are people posting in killette's ban appeal?

Pain said "not involved? Don't post."
Gef memeposts constantly on the forums and breaks this rule, nobody but killette and the admins should be posting.
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>>164857840
Where did pain post this? I am out of the loop
Unrelated post can be deleted when the subject is of a disciplinary nature to prevent things from getting crazy
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>>164858691

See >>164802096 and http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&p=17803#p17803

Pain shutting that thread down has all the hallmarks of 'yeah, people are disagreeing with admins. Let's go into damage control mode'.
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>>164802520
I think that instead of being able to take full control it should only be able to walk. And only attack if the person had a smart laser. This would however be useful for a novice miner. Since they often wind up being murdered and have noone to help them.
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>>164857840
I live to meme
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>>164859141

That picture is pretty good.
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t. man incapable of handling any disagreement
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>>164858993
I partially agree with the stance that is taken here. Admins and the non-admins involed need to be able to have a public platform where they can have a serious discussion on conflict. A peanut gallery results in the ban request/appeals being just like the thread.

However the thread is SHIT. There should be a separate area for public opinion, whether it be another forum/discord/ect, but it should not be a thread where shitposting is rampant. The thread is separated from the game because it is worse than a tabloid in the shit you can say or make up, hence why I never visited it.

If there is no decent outlet for the public opinion people will get angry and feel they are silenced.
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>>164859673

I think there's plenty of space for that on the forums. The guy can just make a forum post elsewhere if he feels slighted.
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>>164859673
>>164859783
The thread is perfect for talking about ban appeals though.

It's anonymous, you can't be grudged for anything you post here. The discord, forums and game all have your ckey attached and admins can delete your posts or stop conversation.

The thread is out of the hands of admins.
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I'll muzzle-load my two cents up your sigmoid colon you fat fuck
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I'll metagrudge quentin for being a fat fuck of a sec officer.
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>>164859879
That is true, but with no admins we also have to deal with fruitless or garbage post
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>>164859879
but they actively try to police it and hold thread users in contempt despite their claims that they ignore it entirely
really bangs your gong and gets it on doesn't it
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LAW TWO, NEW THREAD!
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Being a dullahan is pretty fun
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>>164860154
Worth it for completely honest posting without any censoring to appease people.

>>164860428
The admins love control, people like Pain have incredibly thin skin so he cannot take any criticism. The thread is his nightmare, he can't ban those that complain about him and they post their full complaints when he fucks up.

The thread is the best, you don't get hugboxes or circlejerks like you do in the forums or discord where it's pretty much only 20 people talking.
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>>164860894
t. man not designated as syndicate agent
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>>164860035

>metagrudging someone who roleplay in a game

ultimate retard right there
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>>164861167
>someone who roleplay in a game

ultra ultimate retard right there
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>>164861297
>who roleplay in a game

mega ultra ultimate retard right there
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new thread >>164861902
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>>164859436
It's the reason I downloaded it.
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Outplayed us pretty well there, Rin.
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Why do people like Asimov so much? Law two is the easiest to abuse on a server like this.
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