Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

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>tfw d.va never be in this game

makes me sad

WE WUZ KANGS IN ZUL'AMAN

>>164133028
>Hey lets make Odin even more obsolete
No

>>164133120
What's Zul'jins voice gonna be like?

More "I SPIT ON DA HORDE" or "WHOJA WAN ME KILL?"?

>>164133317

probably a mix of both

>Tier 1
Rag, Thrall, Dehaka, Malf, Tychus

>Tier 2
Li Ming, Zera, BW, Valla, Chen, Zarya, Falstad, Alarak, Rehgar, Raynor, Muradin, Johanna, Artanis, ETC

>Tier 3
Morales, Kerrigan, Tyrael, Jaina, Chromie, Monk, Hammer, Sylv, TLV, Zeebo, KT, Auriel, Prot Warrior

>Tier 4
Tracer, Illidan, Tyrande, Xul, Fury Warrior, Lunara, Zag, Li Li, Sonya, Leoric, Uther, Tassadar, Arthas, Rexxar, Arms Warrior, Samuro

>Autism Tier
Azmodan, Abathur, Medivh

>Tier 5 (AKA memes, shit, trash)
Butcher, Nova, Greymane, Murky, Cho, Gall, Gazlowe

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>the team engages 3v5
>talent down
>healer dead
>objective not up

why dis always haben?

>>164133584
Where's Diablo?

>>164133584
>Brightwing anywhere near Rehgar.
>Prot Varian that low.
>Kerrigan that high.
>Uther not in tier 5 with Li Li.
>Samuro, Illidan, Lunara that low.
>Forgetting about one of the strongest characters in the game right now, Diablo.

If you don't know how to play you probably shouldn't be making tier lists.

>>164133584
>Tier lists

>>164133584
>Tier 1
Rag, Thrall, Dehaka, Malf, Tychus, Diablo

>Tier 2
Li Ming, Zera, BW, Valla, Chen, Zarya, Falstad, Alarak, Rehgar, Raynor, Muradin, Johanna, Artanis, ETC, Prot Warrior

>Tier 3
Morales, Kerrigan, Tyrael, Jaina, Chromie, Monk, Hammer, Sylv, TLV, Zeebo, KT, Auriel, Gul'dan, Lunara

>Tier 4
Tracer, Illidan, Tyrande, Xul, Fury Warrior, Zag, Li Li, Sonya, Leoric, Uther, Tassadar, Arthas, Rexxar, Arms Warrior, Samuro, Kael'thas, Anub, Tyrande

>Autism Tier
Azmodan, Abathur, Medivh

>Tier 5 (AKA memes, shit, trash)
Butcher, Nova, Greymane, Murky, Cho, Gall, Gazlowe, Stitches

Fixed the shit list.

>>164134258
>>164133584
>Making tier lists when on certain maps characters go from non factors to being the best characters in the game.

>>164134258
>Gul'dan tier 3
>same tier as lunara
>outclasses her in every aspect making her obsolete
>etc not tier 1
>falling for the dehaka meme
>still rating diablo this high after his survivability nerf
there are a dozen more mistakes since nobody really plays and tests anything that isnt fotm including you guys.

>>164134643
Tier 3 is full of characters like those.

>>164133584
>my boy zeeb in t3

you my friend are a pleb

>>164134643
a proper tier list simply lists hero which are so garbage that there is never ever a reason you should pick them.

Chromie, Gall, Nova, Butcher, Anub, Cho, Sonya, Stitches, Li Li, Tyrande, Uther, Abathur, Gazlowe, Murky, Vikings, Zagara.
Picking any of these and you are shitting on your team.
Hard.

I'm new to this game. What heroes can jungle the mercenary camps easily and early?

>>164135145
>Samuro
>Thrall
>Gazlowe
>Rexxar
>The Butcher
>Chen
>Varian (Twin Blades)

There are a couple others, but these are the first to come to mind.

>>164135017
Chromie might not be a complete memepick anymore, we'll have to see when we move to a meta where mages aren't the worst role in the game.

Sonya's still viable on PvE maps.

Tyrande, Uther, and even Li Li are all viable supports situationally.

TLV still holds a TREMENDOUS winrate on Garden.

Abathur is still pretty good on Cursed Hollow I believe? I don't play Abathur, maybe an autist can assist. He is at his worst though.

Zagara is actually still fairly strong as a solo on Braxis iirc.

The rest I agree as being pretty awful.

>Rag
>Tier 1
Is this what the silvers and golds at /plebbit/ still think?

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>brawl
>team is me as Abathur, TLV, Kael, Azmodan and someone who never played Tassadar
>enemy team is ETC, Arthas, Brightwing, Xul and some other ass

mfw we somehow won it
Never again

>>164135975
It's not like Tassa is a hard hero, anon.

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>>164136038
Not really hard but when the odds are stacked against you with this dumbass team, thats the last thing you want to hear

Why is everyone putting Samuro so low down in these tier lists? I thought he was really good?

>>164136141

He falls off the higher you go, not unlike a few other Heroes.

Still curious as to why there hasn't been a tier list by MMR yet.

>>164136141
He was on release.
He's Illidan-tier now.

>>164136278
>tier list by MMR
That's simple
Anywhere below Diamond:

>God tier
Azmodan, Abathur, Zagara, any hero that autismpushes and soaks really well. (except TLV)

>>164136304
Did they even nerf him that much though?

>>164136278
that's kind of dumb, I thought he'd be one of the few really high skill-cap heroes that you can make insane plays with.

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>recently get into this game
>play some brawl today
>every other player is level 40
>2 of the players on my team for the entirety of the brawl match constantly die thinking they can 1v5
>of course we lose

I know player level doesn't equal skill BUT,
how is it possible to play the time it requires to get account level 40 and not know you cannot 1v5.
it's basic game knowledge.

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>>164136452

Yeah, something like that.

>smurf placements
>oh what low silver
>everybody flips their shit over my Gazlowe and Azmodan hovers
>completely fine with the 39% win rate Auriel and 41% Li-Ming

>>164136469

Mhm. Sort of thought that's what he might be, but on release he could just E up to somebody then mash Q and W to blow them the fuck up.

He has been reduced to a jungler or clone bot now, I think. Haven't seen him in a while. We turbo meta now.

>>164136634
HotS has possibly the lowest average intelligence of any ASSFAGGOTS because a lot of the playerbase simply doesn't care.

Basic mechanics will take you far in ranked.

>>164136634
>play some brawl
brawls are for money, and fun if you come from reddit. there is also, as far as i know, no mmr calculation for brawl, so everything goes. do it for the money and never come back

>draft already fucked
>dodge
>four brawls or quick matches

Oh, drat. I had hoped the counter would reset with seasons.

Hope they just fix Raynor and don't break him, desu.

>>164136731
Well that's good and bad news.
I can probably rank up quickly without too much time spent learning the specifics of this game but at the cost of slogging through all those low rank matches playing with absolute retards.

I started playing because rag looked fun but how strong a pick is he in ranked play?

>>164137148
Rag is fairly strong right now.

How the fuck does it make sense for Earthquake to only be on a 60 second cooldown? You basically root the entire enemy team three times over the course of a teamfight, while also healing (and shielding at 20) for a fuckton.

Why is this allowed when shit like Wailing Arrow, March of the Black King, and Bladestorm are 90, 80, and 110 respectively?

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>>164137321
>Falstad's Final Spark is, like, a two minute CD.
>Cancerquake (omg its viable ty blizzard i hated missing my sunder) is on a 60 sec CD

>>164137321
Because you niggers and reddit insisted that EQ was a dogshit ult for fucking FOREVER.
It's always been sleeper, the Sunder nerf and the trait procs put it over the line.

>>164133028
makes me happy tbqhfamalama

>>164137148
He gets banned almost every match.

>an ARAM where nobody can dodge if I won't trade them Kael'thas

Feels comfy.

>>164137148

Probably still being banned over the actually busted Heroes, lmao.

>>164138278
Doesn't mean he's OP. New-hero syndrome is huge in this game.

>>164136731
>Basic mechanics will take you far in ranked.
Only if you play thousands of games to even out the RNG of getting retards in your teams who belong in bronze

>>164139896

This is bullshit, desu.

Unless you somehow manage to lose 60% of your first hundred or so matches, then go 0-10 in placements.

Benis

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>>164141201
Gimme

>>164136731
>HotS has possibly the lowest average intelligence of any ASSFAGGOTS

No. That title goes to the EUNE LeL server.

>Towers of Doom
>Sylvanas insists on doing camps and capturing towers
>ignores all teamfights and altars
>doesn't even want to listen when the entire team tells him to do something else

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>>164142517
>afk leveling account on lel in Vs. AI
>swain bot has over 40 kills and 0 deaths
>two mastery level 7 players in the game

I'd believe it, desu.

>>164142651

Pure PvE works for a surprising while, actually. Stopping your split to quickly show up to win/lose the objective before immediately splitting is usually better, though.

>>164142967
Pure PvE works in all maps except Towers of Doom.

>>164133317
Will he have a "I Will bury you here" kill quote?

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>>164143059

Yeah, that's the thing. Plenty of people get up to Platinum or Diamond strictly split-pushing, even if it nets them a 30-40% win rate on Battlefield, Towers and that other one.

Also makes me wonder if/when we'll get a map rotation, or ban/blacklists, or something.

Wait are there really no WoW themed maps? With all the great areas that Blizzard has cooked up over the years? Fuck, they could style a map literally after Dota because they own the Defense of the Ancients map. They could make the map boss a red Granite Golem. Not sure what the objective could be though.

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>>164144580

Yeah, no Warcraft maps, unless I'm mistaken. Surprised we haven't gotten Arathi Basin or Warsong Gulch at this point.

Wouldn't mind the League/Dota map, though.

>>164144815
>(You)s are gone
y tho
Has Japanese Moot cracked down on the shitposting?

>>164145038

I haven't a clue, actually. 'Heard something about the mod team, but don't really follow that.

Should I buy Chen or Xul?

>>164144815
Why is Cydea such a popular character? She had less than 5 minutes of screen time in D3.

>>164145950
It's just a samefag, anon.

>>164145726

Neither

>>164145726
Chen if you're good with him. Xul isn't nearly as fun if you play against intelligent people.

>>164146591
Chen's worse against "intelligent people" You're pretty useless as a Chen.

>>164145950
MAIDEN OF LUST

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>>164145950

She isn't. I just like spiders.

>>164145726

Probably Chen.

Xul for PvE split-push freelo until somewhere in Platinum, or Diamond. He feels to have fallen off recently, though.

>leaver queue is just as fast as normal QM queue
How often do people disconnect from games?

>tfw got so good at banning and counterpicking i cant even find an UD game without going through 5 drafts dodged by the enemy team

Daily reminder that this is a game for moba rejects and hyper casuals and it will never have a competitive scene.

The only people any good at Heroes are from other mobas, and you'll never get as good as them by playing Heroes because it holds your hand and never teaches you anything. You will forever be the HotSbab that goes to the objective because it lit up on your map instead of walking in their base and ending the game.

The Diamond+ in HotS is low-mid in DotA and LoL.

If you play for any reason other than to mess around with Blizzard characters in a hero brawler you've chosen the wrong game.

>>164146201
Not a samefag, I think we are only 3 anons who want her.

>>164136634
HotS does not teach you a single thing about how to play. It's a case study in what happens if you shelter your child and hold their hand through everything.

Basic game knowledge isn't a thing here.

>>164147919
>hurr durr my vidya gaem has hiugher skillcap than urs XDD cesuel XDDD

>>164148207

He's sort of right, though.

>>164148184

It really isn't. I do think things do start to look up after you've gotten to Diamond I-II, though.

>>164147919
There's a lot of filler in those games though, such as last hitting. Denying is better but still masked as "m-muh last hit!"

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It's almost 2017 /hotsg and we still can't have this fight on the nexus... Come on blizz, it's time.

>>164148445

Yes, and Heroes of the Storm showcases nicely what's left when all the "filler" and is removed.

>>164136634

the brawls let you see what the average player actually plays like because it doesn't use rankings. and the average player is pretty damn ugly.

i had the exact same thing happent today, guy tried to 1v5 as medivh, he was 0-2 by 1:30. i asked him what he was doing and he got extremely defense, going "IVE NEVER PLAYED THIS HERO!". i told him i had never played my hero before either, he said "but yours is a tank and im squishy". so i said "then why the fuck do you think you can 1v5"

>>164148549
Wrong.

There's more to non-hots than filler. And hots is not those games -filler.

>>164148470

literally who? no one gives a shit about WoW faggotry senpai.

>>164148207
No, it's more like the skill cap is unreachable for people that only play HotS because they won't learn anything.

I said the only people any good at Heroes are from other mobas, as in, there's a skill cap but the only people even close come from DotA or LoL because you have to learn how to actually play those games to get to high ranks.

Anyway, believe what you want.

>>164148816
>>164148431
>He's sort of right, though.

Yeah, but how is that relevant to anything? I couldn't care less that there are other ASSFAGGOTS in the market which are more complex. Why would I play lel or doto of this is the game I'm enjoying the most?

The difference in difficulty is irrelevant to anything but dick-wagging circlejerks.

>>164148925
No one told you to care if it's the game you enjoy.

You just objectively chose the wrong game if you are competitive in any way about it.

>>164149286
Can't argue with that.

>>164148470
Why would Valeera fight Jaina? If anything they'd be friendly towards each other.

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>>164148816
>comparing [[[skill]]] in assfaggots
>when quake, cs and sc exist

>>164148721
She'll come, anon, and you'll love her more than I already do...

You see anon, we hots players are all part of the same WoW faggotry, wasn't this game called "Heroes of Warcraft... And Friends" anyway?

>>164132808
>a new "where do I find you" text
God's work

>>164149989
Because they get drafted in opposite teams obv

>>164148721
>WoW faggotry
That's a weird way to spell cardstone.

>>164150016
>CS
LOL

whats the speedrunning strat to get the GEnji skin

i have a friend with me

>>164150540
cs 1.6 takes a whole childhood of rigorous playing to master.

>>164151819
noob

>>164151819

Sgt. Hammer and/or Sylvanas.

Push the boss lane to core, recall and do boss at 3:00

On Towers of Doom just leave 1-2 people to defend, preventing the bots from instantly recapturing it. Hold all six points to end quickly.

>>164149989
One is blue team, the other is red team...

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

>>164133317
Technically he shouldn't hate the Horde yet, as losing his arm is a part of the long chain of events which led to him despising the Horde, and this version of him is clearly decently well before.

>>164136634
I am about 80% sure I played a Brawl a few days back that had at least two to three bots.

I'm talking solo-walking into towers and shooting skillshots at Bird Medivh levels of suspicious

>>164135017
>Chromie
>Bad

Haha.

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Looking back on 2016, what were your personal highlights?

For heroes, it was Greymane, Xul, Dehaka, and Varian.

Skins: Striker Li-Ming, Scarecrow Xul, and Lil' Rag.

And the two Starcraft maps.

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>>164151819

Oh, and make sure the AI difficulty is set to Beginner, of course.

>>164153000

Yeah, because you don't have to win. People just want to get it over with for the free gold.


>also no post-game report screen

>>164153201
Personal highlights for me were the buffing of lane minion damage with the slightly slower mount speed.

I enjoy Specialists and generally anything that can waveclear efficiently the most.

>>164153032
>reskinned nova
>good

Haha

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>>164153471

Yeah, same. I was pretty happy to see they didn't revert the mount change after all the backlash either.

>Dehaka
>Xul
>Greymane (rip)
>Gul'dan

It's been sort of fun. Honorable mentions to Chromie and Li-Ming, I just can't and therefore don't play them.


>tfw lunara came out in 2015

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>>164153963
>tfw this game has made me attracted to deer and short people

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>Deathwing is a good ide-

>>164155152
>deathwing comes out
>it's just his humanoid form
>alternatively he requires five players to pilot

>>164155152
>Giant character that climbs around on unpathable terrain
Probably way too much work, but it could be cool

>>164155152
Incredibly likely it will be his humanoid form, with his true form being either an ult or trait like Ragnaros.

Honestly, Rag probably set the stage for other gigantic raid boss type heroes.

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>>164154360
>not being attracted to short people beforehand

>hero league
>some retard start saying he can't play heal or whatever
>tell us he will pick chromie whatever
>oh_god_another_retard.tiff
>pick kharazim
>all my team tell me I was a nice kharazim
>put some nice palms, and made a nice heal
>chromie 6 death, 30k hero damages
>I made sure to not heal her during team fight
>heal her when she back with her bye bye talent to make her mad
>we still win


Why retards that buy skins just play whatever they want to show off some stupid overpriced stuff ?

>>164155152
Isnt Diablo also huge? Also they will probably use his human form like Chromie

>>164141745
SOURCE

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>>164157457
No. Yes.

>>164145950
no one ever knows, but because of this shit we might get her before Baal, Mephisto, Cain, Andariel or any other relevant demon from Diablo.

After this warcraft shitter we're gonna have some Diablo heroes : Aidan (that was made up to justify the D3 bullshit scenario), Malthael (a useless guy on a useless act (the act itself is cool, the story behind it is retarded and I still don't get why they made it). And that's it because blizzard don't give a fuck about Diablo.

I'm still waiting for the D2 sorc with multi elemental skills, paladin with smith zeal and hammer and a nice aura for his buddies, an actual barbarian that can take some damages (bonus point if ancients), an assassin with traps and dragon flight.

What the hell are they waiting ?

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>>164158281
>posting spiders on anonymous image boards influences what they release

If only.

I don't have fun anymore with this games... Losses make me salty and wins don't feel rewarding. Should I quit this shit?

>>164158818
Yeah, take a break. That's what helped me, anyways.

>>164157327
d3 dibbles skin when

>>164158603
I memed a hero into existence, but my meme was actually good.

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>>164159216
Oh, neat. Which one?

Also makes me wonder if we'll get spider before Maiev. I'd be so happy.

>>164159216
Stop gloating, Dustin.

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>>164159452
Muh husbando

>>164159604
Ah, that fellow.
It was inevitible he would be added, but I had been hoping for a Darius-like Grom/Garrosh.

>varian is our first multiclass hero!

Shitty gimmick, this.

>>164158603
if some guys talk about her here, I wouldn't be surprised those same guys post on reddit or on the forums requesting her.

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glad to see they're using garry's mod to pose their characters

>>164158946
I actually took all of season 1 off because overwatch came out, only to come back on season 2 and find hots to be fantastic, but it has started to feel like a job again "having" to do the dailies and now the brawls to keep up with the gold.

I might just skip season 3 entirely

>>164159891
That's simply false, most autists here are light years away from what redditplebs request.

>>164159891

I don't know about the official forums, but she doesn't really pop up on rebbit.

>cain
>baal
>mephisto
>duriel

Are the names I *think* I see popping up the most. Not sure. Diablo isn't really my thing. This isn't including all the frequently-requested non-Diablo Heroes, of course.

>>164160045

Yeah, I've just been logging on every three days to clear out dailies, occasionally doing the brawl.

>>164157327
Azmo' is far larger (lore-wise)

>yesterday
>awesome games, coordinated teammates, deserved victories
>today
>WIN 3 GAMES quest
>the most retarded teams ever, hammers that do no damage, guldans using rain of fire, everyone trickling in

FUCKING WIN GAMES QUEST

>Chromie on the ARAM Brawl
>Butcher on my team
>W Build

Holy shit, this shouldn't be legal

>>164162339
>Win 3 games
>Get 2 of the wins done
>8 LOSS STREAK FOR 2 DAYS
That quest is cursed

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>>164162339
>>164163316
>Read these
>Laugh
>Think "Poor guys. I should log in, I wonder what my daily is."

Go fuck yourselves, this shit isn't funny assholes.

>>164163073
>Chromie on the ARAM Brawl
>pick the aoe slow ulti
>slap it on enemy gate
>the enemy now can't retreat and once they are behind their gate they can't get out
Chromie is pretty gud at ARAM

>>164163316
>>164162339
>>164163756
>log in
>see 3 win daily
>queue vs AI and burrow into bush near fort/keep on abathur
>afk for 5-15 minutes
>repeat 3 times

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Why is Rexxar so ugly now
Its like they took his 50% orc 50% ogre thing and then amped it up to 75% ogre over the years to make him not look like a strong-jawed bear-man.

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>>164165492
But that's Mag Bearmaul, not Rexxar??

>>164163756
That's what beginners AI is for

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>>164165743
Fine then you lil fluffy shit here's your Rexxar. And for some reason they dulled his tusks, and then dulled Misha's tusks too. They used to be tusk buddies.

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>>164167237
Just look at this. They used to look so happy. And his hat took it the worst. Its just a fucking leathery cloth now, what happened to his cool wolf hat? Warcraft 3 was so good about cool wolf hide hats.

>>164167893

>it looks the same but better

is this what having autism is like?

>>164168071
You have terrible taste in hats

>>164168149
You have autism.

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>>164167893
I made a funny meme

>>164167893
His hat is made from the pelt of his old wolf companion that gave it's life to save him from a Warlock. It makes sense that it looks more leathery, it's skin from an animal that had everything under it's skin disintegrated.

>>164169267
When did that happen?

>>164145950
She is as close to elise as we will get

>>164170046
Not sure of which book it is, but it happened in one of the novels.

>>164169267
>wolf

I believe it, but it looks like a mangled bat

>less than two weeks to earn 10,000 gold
Does Ranked give more than quick match?

>>164170046
Around the end of Ner'zhul's era, and obviously before WC3.

In fact, it was all of Gul'dan and Ner'zhul's bullshit along with all the senseless fighting and failure to make peace, along with the loss of his wolf at the hands of an Orc Warlock, that made him say "Okay, fuck this world." and be a lone wanderer who can only truly care for animals.

Until he tries to save that Orc messenger and fails. Then his side-story in WarCraft 3 happens.

>>164172170
What do you even need 10k for?

>>164172170
>grinding gold

Get a stim then smash out bots games in 3-4 minutes.

>SMITE's ARAM mode will always make sure that a team that has a healer if the other one rolls one
>Queue for QM
>Their team has Kharazim, Brightwing and Medivh
>We have Owl Build Tryande

J U S T

>>164172762
>bots
Gross. Fun before rewards, senpai.

You have to buy a master skin after you unlock it? That's fucking gay.

>>164174020

Best of luck in your gold farm then, I guess?

>>164174236

Yeah, just another gold sink. Still, infinitely better than having to spend IP on runes or rune pages.

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This Rexxar looks solid.

I have learned that anub arak is actually pretty good at pubstomping

>tfw you web someone for full duration and their team doesn't help

>>164172219
>Around the end of Ner'zhul's era
I can understand if orcs, ogres, and orcres live longer than usual, but just how old is Rexxar then? He has to be older than Thrall if he was out and about making enemies of warlocks when Thrall wasnt even conceived.

>>164174763
He does, but
>A bow

>>164175648
>Hunter has a bow
Surprising.

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>>164175714
>he didn't go two weapon spec with the free feat
>_>

>>164175928
That picture isn't from Blizzard, right?

Someone should post that on the Overmeme on rebbit asking about where it is, all innocently. Then we all upboat it and comment on it agreeing.

>>164176124
>muh legion
This post is worst than that image. As well as having to ask if that image isn't from Blizzard.

>>164176291
I am surprised he thinks it could be real but come on, don't be that neo /pol/ not ur personal army fag.

>>164176412
>>164176291
Easiest replies tbqh family. Doubly-so by making it pretty obvious, but not obvious enough for new friends.

>>164175648
Thrall was a child slave by this point. 7 years between the First and Second wars, yeah? So we'll say, Rexxar is at least like 15 years older than Thrall. I can't imagine anyone under the age of like 19 being worth much considering how fucking huge Orcs are, and Rexxar has the benefit of being Orc and Ogre.

Rexxar was also stationed with Grom Hellscream at the Blasted Lands side of the Dark Portal during Ner'zhul's war, so he's if nothing else, the same age as Grom I guess.

>>164176637
Thanks for the lore anon. I always wondered where Rexxar came from but never really looked into it.
Howd Rexxar make it to Kalimdor from the Dark Portal though? Ride on the back of some Dragon Turtles? Tie some Wyverns to strings and have them carry him across the ocean?

>>164177331
Not sure. Likely, at one point, just took an Orcish ship over once the Horde settled in and got some ships up and working. He didn't completely vow to stay away from people, he just didn't want to be involved with their personal shit. So he likely just hitched a ride over. If not an Orcish ship, then possibly a Goblin one, as it's plausible Rexxar would gather some supplies and shit in exchange for a ride over.

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How is my wife Lunara these days?

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>>164176412
>don't be that neo /pol/ not ur personal army fag

>>164178250
I for one enjoyed when people were civil here and only cared about the lulz. Now it's all hardcore taking your depression out on other people through bullying

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>>164154360
Glad you could make it Arthas.

>>164178615
>Glad I could make it, Arthas
fixed

>Artanis still 10k
>ZERATUL STILL 10k
What the fuck? Why are my Protoss bros still 10k? Especially Zera, he's ancient as fuck.

>>164178338
...wut the fuck is this guy on about?

>>164178732
>zeratul 10k
keep shitters away from him, not unlike abathur/tlv
or maybe not idk
>artanis
no idea just reduce him to 2k

Curious as to who'll be reduced in price next.

>>164178874
But Zera isn't even hard. But sadly most people pick the wrong talents on him.

Art' should be 4-7k already. We're due for price reductions though.

>>164178615
>>164178701
>Chef Arthas and Uther skins never

>>164178732
If they reduce the gold prices, how will they make you pay real money for them?
I'm fully expecting them to start leaving new heroes at 15k gold price for longer or only drop them down to like 12k

>>164179046
>zera isn't hard
what
>wrong talents
oh okay

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>>164179383
>blinking into enemy team and wormholing out is haaaaard
Any fucking moron could play him back when Zera/Nova were actually popular.
Now that he doesn't have focused attack it actually takes "skill" to not blow with him.

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Why the fuck is he so useless? You can't even fucking play him in QM anymore.

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>>164179068
>tfw no Uther Arthas skin
>tfw no Arthas Uther skin

why has earthquake not been removed yet

>>164181540
Because is meh tier

>>164181540

Because "taking turns" is their preferred method of balancing.


>bloodlust
>earthquake
>hyperion
>+200

>>164181540
Because blizzard is on vacation

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>Taking Untouchable, getting it to 15 stacks and not losing it the entire game

>>164181540
What if they replaced it with Spirit Wolves

>>164181540
>>164183112
Wait I just realized his root is a spirit wolf
What if they replaced it with Far Sight
What if he got Far Sight as a trait

>>164183221
Rehgar already has Farsight. Unless they removed it.

They should just replace fucking Earthquake with Lightning Crash and save the Earthquake mechanic for a fucking Tauren Chieftain hero or something, Thrall's ults are so fucking Warrior-like in nature, it's just one of many reasons why he's just so fucking good.

>>164184934
After looking, yes Rehgar does have Far Sight as a talent.
What kind of Shaman is Thrall anyways? Spirit Wolves and Windfury is for Enhancement, but Earthquake, Chain Lightning, and probably Sundering would be for Elementalist. I get hes loosely made after his WC3 variant, which is why he has Earthquake, but maybe they should just solidify him as a Enhancement Shaman. What would Lightning Crash do anyways?
>Enhance your attacks with lightning for 10 seconds, causing all attacks to do additional AoE damage in front of Thrall.
Itd at least make his auto attack based assassination stronger instead of having him largely be based on blowing stuff up with Sunder.

>>164184934
>>164185348
Oh wait, Sundering is actually an Enhancement talent. So he's 60% Enhancement and 40% Elementalist.

Why do people get the chain lightning talent in thrall's second tier? Chain lightning is shitty poke that ooms you and tickles the enemy. I understand the first talent cuz mana but why the second?

>>164185348
The fact that he isn't even a full on Enhancement Shaman has been a huge complaint of mine for a while. I could easily see Lightning Crash being just like Earthquake, but a damage-oriented AoE as opposed to a big slow, wherein it's basically like a large DoT on the ground.

>>164186186
heals

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Hey Limeme is actually fun

>>164187376
well duh, a mobile mage with massive burst

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gravekeepercucks are all failures living in their mom's basement who never shower and probably also masturbate to Stitches

>>164189534
Does anyone actually like the Gravekeeper? Never heard of it.

>On the absolute shittiest map in the game, a map so shitty it had to be removed
>Brought back
>Still absolute garbage
>Is clearly incompetent, judging by all of his interactions with the raven lord

>>164189715
t. ravenlord

>>164187376
Who's the artist of this?

Nova or Lunara?

>>164189957
Nova for love and long-term relationship.
Lunara for a fun night and quick fuck.

t. not even a novafag

>>164189957

For something specific, or just in general?

Regardless, probably Lunara.

>>164132808

What are heroes you'd want to see added but never expect to actually see?

I'd want to see an Old Gold and/or Overmind.

>Core Replacement
>Global presence
>Enhance/control minions
>Actively control/reinforce defenses
>Creep/Saronite Spread for vision
>U GONNA RIKE TENTACRE

>>164185636


Even WoD Drek'thar told his dumb green ass to rely less on the hammer and more on the mind.

Thrall's younger-version mentor thinks he's a dumbfuck.

>>164145950
Because nobody at nu blizzard played Diablo before 3.

Seriously Azmodan before Baal? NIgger was the lamest boss in an already lame game.

>>164189715
I liked the old haunted mines
Dont care for the new one

>>164171109
Beyond the dark portal. If I'm remembering it correctly. Happens near the end of the book around when the dark portal closes stranding Rexxar along with the warsong clan on Azeroth.

Master assassin or in the rhythm?

>>164192518
In The DINGDINGDINGDINGDING

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>>164191213

>>164192908
Who is that anal amazon?

>>164190553
relevant heroes from Diablo.
I don't expect them cause only baal and cain were on the axolotl list

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>>164190553

>>164145038
Just use 4chanX and get all the (You)s you can handle.

>>164189715
fuck off raven lord
more like craven lord am i right

>>164195895
more like ravin' turd

HAHA aced that faggot

>>164192518

in the rhythm cuz that with the healing thingy is neato burrito

Why the fuck do people queue QM as Abathur? He's fucking useless without a team built around him. Go play vs AI if you want to play le ebin RTS slug man.

Yes I mad.

>>164197998
Because I ain't gonna get XP for doing AI, nigga.

Also it's fun to make the best of what you have

>Evolving a Samuro
>Cho'gall walks onto the Braxis point
>6 angry orcs pop up out of nowhere

Is Maiev in the game yet?

>>164198650
not yer anon

>>164198740
How can blizzard fuck up so badly and get away with it?

>>164198868
they gave out a free skin for genji in overwatch, free heroes and a free month long stimpak to distract people from the fact that she wasnt announced at blizzcon

>>164198868
Hearthstone player's money.

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>>164198868
>Wanting Maiev before Fenix

Nazeebo's E is the worst fucking skill in the game.
You CANNOT refute this.

>>164200003
What about like

Azmodan's W

>>164200276
azmodan W is pretty useful to stop creeps from coming and having more space on a lane, forcing the enemy to not back. After lvl 13 is can take tower munitions instead of the minions and make a better push.
Not the best skill but not useless.

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>>164200003
E hurts like a truck at point blank
also gets your dot on a wave to get trait stacks
Raynors E is the worst fucking skill in the game.
It should replace his current trait and they should come up with a real third ability for him.

>>164200276
hey
dont u shittalk my goons

>>164200003
Stitches W

>>164200003
Psi storm is worse.
An aoe damage ability on a support character that causes mild damage to minion waves, structures, or anyone lazy enough not to walk out of it.

>>164203889
It's Beta version was strong. And when Tass got his double-tap talent, it would wreck anyone's day if you could land two on the same target.
Of course, those were the days when Archon could 1v5 the enemy team and still win.
Now, Archon can barely 1v2 against bronzies.

>>164165492
At least it's beter than his wow model, that thing is an abomination

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>>164204530

>>164204703
What in the absolute fuck?

>>164178249
She's your wife? Wow man, you must be the biggest cuck in human history

>>164204703
>a brown orc with a wolf hat
top kek

>>164204750
Vanilla WoW. Was cheap like a high school drama department.

Is the game fun and alive guys? Im thinking of playing a bit, want to know if its even worth a shot

>>164207893
Nope, dead as fuck, takes half an hour to find a game

>>164190553
yeah, I'd love to see something like Yogg-Saron replace your core

>>164208145
>half an hour

I found the leaver! Longest i had to wait on the EU servers is like 5min.

>>164209426
>EU

>>164209426
Leaver queues are just as long as normal queues

>>164200003
Yeah its the fucking worst, sometimes it can win a game but usually everyone just escapes from it.

>>164207893
>fun
It's easy to get into the game so you should give it a try and figure out by yourself.

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waiting on that fucking chromie skin

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>>164204703
What's interesting is that they didn't just use his model from Warcraft 3 originally considering the bear model from WoW is literally just Misha from the Bonus Campaign menu screen.

I think about stupid shit like this too much.

>>164179971
>wormholing
its the current year senpai

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Since we're in an autoattack meta, does that mean Tassadar has risen out of "shit tier" to "not quite shit tier"?

>all these desperate pubs throwing away their newbie gold on Sylvanas and Hammer to grind the Genji skin

It's kind of sad.

They don't even bother to even learn the basics or buy/play something they might like.

Best part is they don't know you only need one friend so they all clump up for 5-man parties for maximum exp for me.

>tfw they keep wandering down "mid" in 2-lane maps like Eternal Battlefield and keep asking where the bots are
>tfw they get mad I don't go down mid with them in maps like Dragon Shire or Towers of Doom
>tfw they take so long it's faster for me to solo farm 30+ coins in Blackheart's Bay to destroy all three lanes before winning
>tfw they take so long it's faster for me to collect the shambler seeds or miners skulls to finish
>tfw they still get mad at me and kick me a quarter of the time afterwards even though I explain why some maps it's faster to do objectives

>>164217517
Isn't Sylvanas given away for free through some kind of newbie promotion? I seem to remember getting her for free.

>>164217476
he still only belongs to `the x comps` where x is a certain other hero.

used to be almost exclusively illidan, now its illidan/tracer/valla. still a weak solo support

>>164217639
Oh I didn't know http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/game/recruit-a-friend/ was still a thing.

Damn, my friend who I started with never told me about this.

I could've gotten Sylvanas and Raynor by now.

>>164217517
honestly, if you have a hammer with a least bit of brain, on no map is it faster to do an objective

>>164217517
>wasting time doing objectives when you could end the game in under 3 minutes

>>164217517
There is no map where it's faster to do objective in grinding vs. AI games, with or without Sylv/Hammer.

>Alt + W with Alarak will shove you in the direction you're running automatically

Oh my god.

It took me 8 matches to learn this, 8 matches of pure misery.

>>164218052
>>164218080
>>164218843
>honestly, if you have a hammer with a least bit of brain, on no map is it faster to do an objective
I know, but this is a lv 4-5 newbie who keeps saying "ai farm ai rush" and can't do it properly.

They spend too much time fucking around the mid keep and core and take like 10+ minutes because they inevitably die and have to make multiple trips.

*I* don't mind, longer games mean more exp for me.

>>164218859
Is it JUST you? What if someone is as close to you as possible? Half the problem with shoving yourself as Alarak is that sometimes sticky people end up travelling with you.

>>164217476
Tass is godlike with any AA. I main her, and Valla is a thoroughly mediocre hero, but she's first pick ban because she's godlike with Tass and still pretty good with auriel or Rehgar. If you get auriel Tass or auriel reh, it's pretty much GG, even into EQ thrall Diablo Raynor and other broken things.

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>>164132808

FRIENDLY REMINDER:

You are the only constant. No, it isn't a meme, sorry. Git Gud.

Also: Maiev NEVER EVER.

>>164220565
>Valla
>first pick/ban anywhere
What the fuck am I reading?

>>164221947
maiev isn't the true never ever you twat

>>164222776

Yeah, she IS. MUH KT is just dork delusional garbage.

>>164222887
unlike KT, maiev's skillset is already in the game :^)

>>164222979

Yep! That's why is the true NEVER EVER. Zera-kun owned that bitch so hard.

ALSO, we have our dear Maiev-fag, that I love to see suffer. On the other hand, KT only have fatty idiots screaming left and right.

>>164223131
no
the fact that her skillset is already in the game means half of her is already in the game, whereas nothing of KT is in the game
as a result, he is clearly the true never ever

>>164223216
Xul mixed with Jaina is KT.

>two people get picked right before first objective
>oh guess we're giving it
>remaining two teammates suicide in
>get spam pinged
>we've still got two people dead

oh

>>164226831
>picked
stop

when will overfag players stop begging for genji skin?

>>164227119
?
>>164227164
Doesn't the promotion end in a few days?

>>164227249
and the begging won't stop until the challenge end? fuck that, does reporting them work?

>>164227501

Probably not.

And no, not really. Just ignore them and/or leave whatever channels they're begging in for the next few days.

>>164222979
Ragnaros, Zeratul, Kerrigan, Kael'thas, Arthas, Raynor, Uther, Alarak, Anub'arak, Malfurion, Illidan, Thrall, Sgt Hammer, Lt Morales, and more all have different kits in HotS than they did in their home games, in many cases WILDLY so

Zeratul closely resembling Maiev's WC3 kit means very little since she wouldn't have had that kit in HotS even if Zeratul didn't exist

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>US

>>164229037
Zeratul has moves from Starcraft 2. Same with Kerrigan. Raynor has a lot of the same shit as well. The ults are from cinematics in Wings of Liberty, Sgt Hammer is just a siege tank and what they do is siege and un siege. Morales is pretty much a medic from Starcraft with added abilities. Alarak has deadly charge, uses lightning during his one dual mission.

If you want a Rogue they are better ones than Maeiv.

what are some good youtube videos that could help me improve at shit game? tournament games especially

>>164229798
>tournament

Ehh, I'd suggest just trying to find a decent streamer that you like.
Found a few Korean players on Azubu a while back, not sure if any of them are still around, though.

Any characters you started to like in HOTS even though you don't give a shit about their home game?

Alarak is my boy now.

I never get to hear all the inter-character dialogue, is there a place to listen to all of it?

>>164229740

>rogue

Hey WoWfaggot, she isn't a rogue. also, tell me which of zeratul's abilities is supposed to be avatar of vengeance, her signature ability?

and even if all 4 of her abilities were copied, it's not like blizzard would make up new abilities for an old character right?

we would NEVER get something like a necromancer, because witch doctor has his abilities, right?

Choke on this dick faggot. you just embarassed yourself.

>>164231205
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/

>>164231213
>avatar of vengeance

explain

sounds like another "i spawn a shitty clone of myself" ability and that concerns me

>>164231205

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/

might be of interest

>>164231168
I always hated Pandaren, but man do I love playing Chen.

>>164229798

Watch Grubby. He may not be pro level but he knows what's good and how to draft, which is what newbies want to learn the most.

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summoning takada, or anyone else who's good at them, for advice on the vikings in the state the game is currently in

>>164231428
You plant an Avatar around corpses and from corpses clones of you rise. The clones are timed or go away if you destroy the avatar.

Not to sure how well it would work in this game considering they'd probably take away the spell immunity they had or save it for an upgrade.

It's the only ability that Zeratul doesn't have that Wardens have.

>Stuck at platinum 5
>Always lose on the promotion match
Didn't want to play anymore anyway.

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>won 5 out of 5 of play placements so far
>anxiety kicking in makes me not want to queue again

>>164204703
The current wow model still looks very ugly and outdated

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>>164234797

>>164234673
play until you lose, then take a break
gotta make the most of it while it lasts

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Haven't played in a few months, how's Chromie?

Any important changes I should know?

>>164235881
see >>164132808

They should add the patch notes inside the game and let you pull up hero related patch notes and have the game remember when you last played the character so you can see what has changed

>>164133028
>Wanting another character from that shitty FPS

>>164133028
Why is she so fucking fat?

>>164235881
She gets her talents 2 levels before everyone now instead of 1 level.
Her mana regen quest and her level 1 vision got merged into one talent.

>>164232684
Personally I enjoyed the notion that Maiev's level one "talent" was to instead choose a single enemy hero, and half her kit only works if it's being actively used to pursue and disable her chosen target

It felt like it fits well with the single-minded hate-boner I remember her having.

Illidan is out there somewhere.

>>164236761
Artist projections. Gremlin culture ruins characters. "Oh they like videogames! MEMES MEMES MEMES MEMES DORITOS THEY MUST BE LIKE ME!"

>>164239152
Blizzard wouldn't do that or atleast it wouldn't be too strong of a buff. Would be too much backlash from people being "bullied" by Maiev

>quick AI wins
>everybody wants to go mid when we have zero sustain
>push to core then sit around for another seven minutes because we don't have the damage to dent the core without dying
>nobody pushes boss lanes

suffering

i just want the stupid gobber mount on smurfss

Anon, I need to know how is it possible that Blizzard can get away with this fucking regional restriction bullshit in 2017.

I mostly play Blizzard games anon, and when I'm visiting my family in another continent I can't play this shitty game because the ping is too high, and if I switch regions, guess what anon? there's nothing... Same shit happens with CardStone but ping doesn't matter there... Why are there even regions in a card game? it's fucking stupid and greedy on Bli$$ard.

When are we gonna do something about this shit 4chan? Overwatch works fine, and go play almost any other game on steam out there and this region bullshit doesn't exist (I'm looking at dota right now)

>>164241210
>how can blizzard get away with it

do they even need to comment on stuff like this I thought the blizzdrones usually did all the defending and explaining

>>164239865
>>164239152

they could have it on whoever is the current MVP for the enemy team. so it could change over the course of the game.

>>164241525
well they're just faggots who don't realize there's no technical or legal justification for region restrictions and we're basically being scammed

>>164241210
i actually bought 2 accounts to be able to play sc2 on eu and na
dont like it either its really stupid and for the few it affects seems quite restricting

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>queue HL
>instalock Chromie on my team
>the second the chat is available "IM JUST HERE TO GET MY LAST LOSING PLACEMENT"
>spends the entire game missing spells and shit talking
>try my hardest to stay positive and keep pushing the team stay in the game
>hammer on our team caught out because instead of following pings she stooped to throw mines giving away her position when she was previously in fog
>chromie was caught out by diablo like 9 times because she would stop to put and hourglass when being chased by 2 or more
>we lose because people keep stoping to chuck spells instead of just running to towers
>wwhen they were all on our core our Dehaka borrowed away at the very last second as a goof because loss was secured with dead hammer and chromie
>everyone blames him instead of the dead faggots
>right after we lose "SEE I TOLD YOU I GET MATCHED WITH RETARDS" and leaves


There's my lose 5-1 should have listened to my anxiety.

>>164244309

It was bound to happen eventually.
>>164243665

Mhm. Sort of curious as to why there isn't even a "Transfer region" service for x amount of dollars.

>tfw you find out killing Samuro's Mirror Images triggers A Card to Play

WHY IS THIS ALLOWED

>>164245360
>illusions count towards "hit hero" quests

I don't see why not, even if it is...sort of good?

Assist system is bullshit, though. Raynor doesn't even have to hit them, not unlike how Li-Ming doesn't need to do a single point of damage to get an "assist".

>>164244574
>Mhm. Sort of curious as to why there isn't even a "Transfer region" service for x amount of dollars.

It's because nobody cares, unless you're directly affected you don't think about these kind of things. A transfer region service would still be kinda shitty but I would take that over what we have right now anytime

>>164241210
Part of it is probably pricing of digital things. Pretty sure everything costs more in Europe than USA so people could buy all their shit on USA prices or where ever it is cheapest

>lose with plat 5s
>tell me i shouldnt even be in plat
>win the next 5 games and start playing diamonds again
heh

>>164244309
>not hitting your spells as chromie
You can just spam them at the direction of the enemy and get free hits, no aiming required
>dying as chromie
Oh he was just fucking bad

>>164245360
>playing chromie
>enemy team has samuro
>finish the W quest before level 10
I don't know why everyone bans Samuro in ranked

>>164245646
They are, but prices are determined by your Battle.net account region, not by the region you're logged in the game... Switch regions in your battle.net launcher and you'll see prices are exactly the same for you.

Also how come Blizzard is the only company affected by that?

happy new year /hotsg/

>>164246117
>Also how come Blizzard is the only company affected by that?
Because they set up their servers to be regional in the first place and changing it now would waste a lot of money and would cause problems for the first month or so

>>164246381
Then how come Overwatch isn't affected by this?

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>>164246325

what did they mean by this?

>>164246325
Happy new year faggot, I love you

>>164246438
Probably built the servers to not be region locked?
It's easier to do it for a new game rather than go back and change how for example the hots servers work.

It could mean they are planning on making everything regionless but it would cause some problems with people who own the same game in multiple regions

>>164246764
It's really hard for me to believe the technology for region switching (move your EU account to NA and viceversa, for example) is not there for hots and hearthstone at the very least