/dfog/ - Dungeon Fighter Online General [Praise Your Goddess-Queen

First for gas f.mages.

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>>163809069
Good night, sweet apple eater

>>163809175
Good riddance, you long-necked dyke.

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>>163809319

Reminder that knight is a dead class, and will only become deader once her subclasses come out.

>>163809697
how?
>dragon knight turns dfo into a shmup
>paladin becomes the new f nen

>>163810191
Do we know what kind of skills are they supposed to have?

>>163810191
Dead class, anon. Please, accept it, I don't want you to get hurt.

>>163810379
DK is a mount class.

Which makes no sense considering that we have three of its skills already and it's clearly an aerial combo class.

>>163810191

I don't get how Paladin would work, wouldn't she overlap with Inquisitor, and/or both Crusaders?

>>163810432
nothing will hurt more than no f monk

>>163810635
>monk
>able to hurt anything
(lol

>>163810631
probably less focused on heals and more on doing damage/procs

like f nen

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>>163810635
>>163810635

>>163810631
They actually recently delayed her because they were having issues with that. Originally, she was a "battle sader" in the sense that she buffed people by attacking, but then they made F.Sader into that.

>>163810379
Dragon Knight buffs with her breasts like F. Nen buffs with her breath.

>>163811171
they could make her into an aura slave

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>>163810954
>midriff
>short shorts
>ZR

most underrated f fighter qt

>>163811171
>inb4 they scrap paladin and make a new sub

>>163810631
Paladin was supposed to be f.sader

but now f.sader is getting released to they're getting pushed back to summer

>>163811263
>most underrated f fighter qt

And look at her hair. Her bush must be amazing.

>>163811610
DON'T

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small ivory...

>>163809069
WHAT IN THE FUCK

MAAAAAINT


http://www.dfoneople.com/news/notices/view/Temporary-Maintenance-Dec-27,-2016

>>163813765
NOOOOOOOOOO I WAS LEVEL MUH NEN HEN.

>>163813765
>As mentioned last time, please be noticed, under Windows XP SP2 environment, DFO cannot be played anymore after this maintenance.

F

>>163813881
Good fucking riddance.

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Mawm...

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Rumor has it that anyone that rubbed Miridia's belly have their dreams come true

>>163813765

I just bought Cera for the first time to get some sweet avatars and now this, damn it nipple!

On that subject, are there any cera items that i absolutely should get? Or should i just burn all my money on avatars?

>>163817773
Skin avatars tend not to be given away. They're worth going for if emblem socket generators [skin] are being sold in the current package (like right now), because you can usually get those for gold pretty cheaply and the sockets they make will give you a decent chunk of m.crit / p.crit once you fill them with emblems.

The first couple levels of safe upgrade can be worth it, too (but beyond that you're better off waiting for an event and managing your inventory better, shit gets expensive fast). Don't upgrade your account safe with CERA until you can't upgrade it with Nihil Stones anymore.

>>163817991

Alrighty, thanks.

It's back up

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>>163809138
Gas~?

>>163819417
Yes as in wipe you degenerate fucks out of dfog forever. Then we move to cdnf, jdnf, and finally kdnf making DFO pure again.

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>>163818968
>log back in
>see this
9lol)

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We need a third mage class, we need more mages but we don't need f mage and male male having 10 classes each.

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>Egene
Eugene?
Egg-Gay-Knee?
Eвгéний?

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Witch is so cute

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>>163820684
>>163819417

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPHDXYTX954

>>163820649

EW! GENES!

>>163821048
gay

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>>163821048
I really really really really like this song.

>>163821945
you have cute eyebrow's

>>163821945
fuck off sacharin

>>163823027
DAMN, Saccharin looks like THAT?

>>163817773
Buy owl - she brings you your safe in dungeon if you ever need it.

Buy 2 inventory upgrades, you can wait for event that gives them but by that time you will develop brain tumor from trying to manage your bags.

Is Grandine slaving really going to get gutted soon?
How are us welfare niggas supposed to make enough gold for packages and shit when that happens?

>>163827203
Only thing that's being gutted is that its no longer optimal lvl dungeon (i think)

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Berserkers are fucking idiots holy shit. There's so many things wrong in that echo.

1 Scythe on memevenger?
2 Meme on female memelaucher?
3 Bayo on blood mage?
4 Handjob broom on Dumention mage?
5 Meme automatic on mmech?
6 Meme autistomatic on fmech?
7 Whatever that small sword for light damage is for graciasura
8 I got 2 mana uses from hells, game is telling me to make fstriker and give her third one.
9 Metric shaft for battle mage
0 You fucking choose please?, maybe knukel violet for mnen(i don't have mnen)

>>163828268
enjoy your shit early game experience

>>163828374
I have mech assists...

>>163828404
i did too

why do people feel the need to blog about their epic roads and hells every single fucking day? is it just a normie thing?

>>163828268
Bayonet on Blood Mage if you really plan on gearing him.

Why does epic road hate me

>>163829305
Well i do, i just wonder what would be the best choice...

How long does it usually take to finish a 9 piece chronicle 3 set?

>>163829968
If you diss every other piece, run dark elf and don't get unlucky with drops then i'd say about two weeks of master, less if you decide to grind ov with resent (for frags).

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"Casting skills has a 15% chance of increasing Physical/Magical/Independent Atk. by 12% for 30 seconds for you and party members"

How much of a damage increase is this in reality?
Since the max is 3 stacks I highly doubt it's actually a 12% increase in total damage because giving your entire party up to 36% extra damage would be fucking broken.

>>163829827
Arges is the best choice out of those. It just comes down to what you want the play the most.

>>163830074
I must be missing something then, none of the pieces I've tried to diss so far have dropped any interdimensional fragments, which ones am I supposed to diss?

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>>163830589
set items for your class diss into 20 frag

>>163830164
Well you can't stack more than 1 without any wooyo's items.

>>163828886
I leveled sader and base classes without any trouble...

>>163830642
Time to update it to "dark elf dungeon"...or "20 ov resets"

>>163830810
I see, so you DO increase the party's total damage by 12% but you need multiple Wooyo's users to get max stacks.
12% to everyone on top of 20% elenore and 30 elemental damage seems pretty fucking good either way, are wooyo weapons considered good in kDNF now?

>>163831152
Well, on their own those weapons look pretty meh so you need to have 3 of them and even then im not sure if damage will be better if everyone just had their "best" 85 epic...and in dnf they just use 90 epics.

Can someone tell me" what the heck do witches do in raids\dungeons? I remember they were wanted as holders but no longer needed as such, and they are more dps class rather than burst, right? So if witches were to actually exist, what gear\what role do they even fill in raid (not counting full dg epic damage dealer)

>>163831486

The only thing they are capable of filling is the trash can.

>>163831563
Im gonna fucking launch Pluto at you.

>>163831486
>not counting the one viable setup

they probably just function as mediocre holders/debuffers and potentially subdealers with the furnace set

>>163831632
>dg
>one viable setup
Come on man...it's not like all fmages need full epics to be good.
...right?

Noob here, I've been doing some searching about attack speed and from what I understand it can increase attack speed and shorten the animation of special move such as Machine Gun Jab from monk, is this correct? And is it worth the investment to increase attack speed? So far I can only find few enchantment that increase attack speed

>>163832018
You generally want to stack pure damage\damage stats\crit, if there is any slots that don't have any other enchant and cards are cheap you might try but i think bonus is still unnoticeable. Just stalk fnens and violate one untill she becomes your personal buff slave.

>Aegisrick triggered by f priest redesign

Lol what a fag

>>163834969
All the more reason to like the super cutie F. Priest patootie.

>>163831390
On their own they still have 20% elenore and that chunk of elemental damage in addition to that 12% patk/matk/ind. atk proc (which is up most of the time). The weapons themselves are pretty good if your class can get away with using them.

>>163835526
I mean, they are good if you don't have anything else that's a no brainer, but if you have woyo knuckle and berzerk there is no way you're going to use woyoo.

>>163834969
Typical of knightfags

>>163835606
I love Chaos and I love the new f priest.
AegisRick is a faggot.

>>163834969
>>163835112
>>163835606
>>163836005
heeeyyo what is up fags

Im gonna main mistress and not even fat gook of terrible class design will stop me!

>>163834969
>>163835112
>>163835606
>>163836005
umm........... let's not hate on our boy.

>>163836802
Death to the blasphemers!

>>163836802
I'm not hating on him. I kinda like him.
But that doesn't make his opinions less uneducated.

>>163837584
he's really ugly in that creepy gross nerd kind of way
the kind that masturbates under the table at a restaurant or something
and fuck your e-celeb worship anyway, nerds
i'm gonna go back to posting my lucky epics in megas

>>163835592
what makes berserk so much better? i'm genuinely curious.
berserk gives 60% damage which is pretty nuts but if we assume that wooyo's 30 ele damage equals about 10% damage then it gives you about 42% damage (20% elenore + 10% from ele damage + 12% from buff proc) and it also buffs 2 allies' damage by 12% each (assuming you party with a sader who doesn't benefit from it much).
do correct me if i'm wrong, i'm a shitter without raid experience.

>>163838197
fuck you and your lucky chink ass

>tfw raid day tomorrow
>Have to raid on every char
>have to find raid on every char
>have to endure getting 60 epics on every char
Why are we here, just to suffer?

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What.

>>163841885
Are you using mods?
Enable NpkIndex again.

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Why are thief's tits so big

>>163849615
because big is perfect

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>>163849615
dark elven magic

>>163841460
>Have to raid on every character

You brought your suffering on yourself.

>>163838341
That guy undersells it. I can't speak for fighters but for Priests, Wooyo's rosary is easily usable by two classes (+ battle sader if you want to go that far) and competitive with other 85 options.

>>163847170
The only thing out of the ordinary I have is the Daisuke Ono voice.

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Is the epic road worth doing or am I being tricked

>>163852092
It's not worth blowing FP on it this next weekend when you can do half-price 100% insane hells with the FP instead. But during the week for sure do it.

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Whom to purchase next, only 12500 pls

I've no experience with shields but blitz looks kinda fun. Is the hitbox thing really that bad?

Should I use egene minds while levelling or save them for higher levels?

>>163852943
Best to use it at 1-39. If you're past that, use them when you're close to starting the next epic questline.

>>163852943
I'd say avenger, people meme on him but he is still alright.

>>163853616
>>163853208

>>163853208
They give fixed amount depending on your level range so either use at the start of this level range or just level normally untill ghent cancer starts or express.

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>>163853732
>>163853731
>>163853616
Thank you senpais

>>163852943
here

>>163853208
>>163853616
>>163853626
>>163853731
I understood not a word

>>163855873
Cozy wozy fucking ebin goozy, everyone around me gets double ebin drops and complains "uh i keep getting orbs and shitty epics but all i want is my last epic for 5\5" and im sitting here with 5 epics total across several characters farming for 2 days.

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How do I thief

Should I be spamming hit end always

Any guesses as to which avatar package is coming after Olympus?

>>163856940
i don't know about any new dnf avatars...maybe some china or jap? Mecha or Medieval avatars would be ok.

>>163856435
>"uh i keep getting orbs and shitty epics but all i want is my last epic for 5\5"
you wouldn't even understand what it feels like to be 4/5 on multiple sets and only find athena's wisdom grappler (m)

>>163856435
Same

>>163859428
Fuck you, it feels exactly the same as having 1/5 and finding athena's wisdom physical exorcist

>>163859428
>>163859754
>they're still running 85 hells

(lol)

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Hot damn Lenny is cute.

Will I get to see her again later in the story?

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>>163861463
maybe

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>>163861463
Enjoy her while you can

>>163861463
yeah, when you find the storybook items

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>>163861731
That doesn't look healthy, anon.

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>>163861923
maybe

If I overlevel to a new epic quest, should I just autoclear and move on, or stay and get the xp?

>>163862139
Depends on how many areas you've cleared in your current area and the color of the quest. Auto-clear too early, too many times and you'll run out of quests early

PAAAARTY CAAAAAALL

>>163863401
Hello, my name is Rod and I like to party.

>>163861903
>those super short-shorts and leggings

Hot damn Lenny was hot for her age

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>Grubek just bouncing around on his giant goblin ballsack

>>163864239
she died a virgin

>>163865592
>all those tentacles

Not likely

>>163865727
nothing more than glorified dildos

>>163838341
berserks effect is unique and stacks with smash

>>163865941
Not if they implant/fertilize babbys

>>163865941
dildos tear hymens just fine

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Do not bully Lenny or her butt!
You have been warned!

>>163867051
toO LATE

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>>163864239
She was too pure for this world

Is there anything more satisfying than blizzard storm?

Feels so cool

>>163867051
why is a retard allowed to have an ass that fat?

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>>163867721
Don't...


...bully...

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>>163867721
It all went to her ass instead of her head

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I feel like this game would do really well on a pad. Any chance of nogames/xbone release?

>>163868250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsYFe26E4iE

>>163868250
You can play with a pad on PC....wtf.

>>163868482
Well I want it to have more players, too.

So I noticed that the snowman avatar looks cutest on F mage, and now i need to make an f mage, problem is I don't know whichcsubclass i should make?

I played ele till nexon shutdown, and she was pretty OP.

Also I can use this epic event box to give to my new mage, which subclass gains the most benefit form this epic road event, which is most fun?

>>163869515
>most fun

Witch, no contest

>stronkest

Ele

>easymodo

Summoner

>please mercy kill me it hurts I don't want to live just let it end oh god please

Bug bug

TAO event when

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>>163869515
>most fun
Battlemage
>strongest
Witch
>easymodo
Elementalist
>laggy
Summoner

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>>163870049
>witch
>stronger than ele

>>163870314
arent they all equal strength when geared?

>>163870538
A geared bm is still shit

A geared summoner is probably stronger than a witch but none of them top a geared ele

>>163869691
>>163870049
Which class requires the least funding?

Which class needs only chronicle gear?

Which class benefits the most from getting a 70-80 epics, form this epic road event?

As a witch while wearing the snowman avatar, will I look the cutest flying in the air with a broom and doing spinning dive bombs?

Can I just broom stick spin my way through everything?

As a witch, do I only need chronicle gear and little funding to be good?

If I choose to make a witch, which epic from lv.70 - 80 will benefit her the most?

What epic from 70-80 does each subclass benefit the most from?

>>163865949
but wooyo's 12% damage increase also seems to stack with smash and the bonus damage is elenore.

>>163870779
Woah there anon, that's stuff you'd be better suited to research yourself.

Broom spin is stronk but witch's machines are what you'll need to spam through everything.

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What will happen if I play and main Elementalist?

Can I perform well in endgame? I am willing to spend and invest for it.

>>163870049
The only one worth touching at all anymore is Battlemage, maybe Summoner. Witch REQUIRES dark gothic to do damage, otherwise you have to beg a raid leader to stick you on boat or something. Elementalist is just omg (lol).

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>>163872483
>Elementalist is just omg (lol).

???????????????????

>>163872676
I have yet to see a single Elementalist in the group I raid with.

>>163872237
No you really aren't. Ele is a meme class for shitty meme players.

>>163872789
what happened to these spoiled bitches?

I thought their population is higher than witches?

>>163872926
Witches are cuter

I've started a witch though and it's flashy with nice damage

>>163872896
What? Am I reading it wrong?

Isn't Elementalist a top notch magic dealer in raid and everything.

>>163873178
If you have thousands of dollars to spend and enjoy gear swapping 20 pieces like an autist, but theirs a reason Ele's are no where to be seen. The amount you'd need to invest you could invest into another class and get better returns now.

>>163873178
no

>>163873178
He's just telling you to stay away from his class, anon.

And he's right. Get out of fmage town.

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>there are still people here wants an ele gf

>>163873178
The popular tier lists are old af. The top teir is asura, sword master, Demon Slayer, Battle Mage (soon), Crusader (buff bitch), Dark Templar, Female Nen Master, and Chaos.

Flancer when

I want to be a pole dancing slut not a pole dancing fag

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>tfw no bugbug gf

Ele is for _________?

>>163873761
[being tentacle raped by Lenny]

>>163873761
Breeding.

is bugmage even good? I'm currently at lvl 51 and having regrets that I should have picked witch

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>>163873761
garbage

witch > ele

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fw base mage getting 3/5 ele dropper and 85 broom in the first half hell weekend
fw wanted to go swift

>>163872676
elementalist is a flawed terrible class that uses snapshot swaps as a crutch to deal any kind of damage

they're god awful

neople knows tho so they're getting rework

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>>163874003
Roan from NEET...

>>163873912
She's trash till rework, stop believing meme f.mage posters on here who circle jerk korean tier lists as if we are on the exact same schedule as them.

>>163874003
forgot his left ear, don't look at DW

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>>163873761
marrying

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>>163873817

>>163874306
wew

Soon /dfog/ will stop talking about shitty fmages because F.Priest the true queen will arrive.

>>163873919
I want to smell Vyolets!

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>>163874648
dumb waifufags

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>>163874648
Fpriest ain't a loli, though. She won't be able to dethrone the fmage.

>>163874763
an fmage ruined my life

>>163874875
pretty sure you did that yourself

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>(cute)damage(to my heart)
bm>summoner>witch>elementalist
>fun
witch>summoner=bm>elementalist
>waifu
all of them are equal
good luck proving me wrong

>>163874971
omg lol

>>163875057
>hide post

>>163875318
you can't hide the truth, stupid asura main

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>>163874971
maybe you are right

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I need a witch gf to step on me

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Angelina or Nicholas, /dfog/

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R8 bug before I purchase.

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>fpreist will never be this cute

Aegisrick, Axtea or Miridia

>>163876965
Retarded/10

>>163877026
Does anyone have the video this is from?

>>163876965
Not cute/10

>>163876965
wife/10 :3

>>163876965
>exposed midriff
>ZR
slutty

>>163877261

I only wish there were actual spats I could use...

>>163877027
axtea

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>>163876965
You suck at makin' mages senpai

>>163877337
same...

>>163877412

>Battle Mage
>Highly physical
>wants to wear robes and have long hair

Get taste.

>>163877412
they're both totes cuties in their own way

>>163877412
*barf*

>>163877027
so is that guy that names all his characters Sir___ really Aegisrick?

because he was in one of my guilds and was a HUGE asshole. also, confirmed he is some dort of brown halfsie


he also recently scammed/betrayed the KK whales of Signify recently then, too (lmao)

>>163877654
>he also recently scammed/betrayed the KK whales of Signify
is he, dare i say, /our guy/?

>>163877412
>le generic pee pee longstockings hair
yeah. ok.

>>163877654
>>163877779
literally our boy now. not that there was any doubt.

>>163877779
>>163877812
does he even post on the fore chins?
does he even lurk /dfog/?

>that ele with 3 mateka enchants

why???

>>163877501
>highly physical
>literally just explodes shit with magic balls

HEEEEEEEYOOO WHAT IS UP KNIGHTS ITS YA BOY AEGISRICK HERE

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>>163878236
i heard that aegisrick had an affair with Tessa...
is it true?


Tessa...

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All y'all suck at making cute mages

>>163878437
>literally a garbage can

>>163877791
Fuck you that is grade A squid hair

>>163878236
you mean E-JIZZ RICK
>americans in charge of pronouncing aegis

>>163878437
mages have the worst dressup

>>163878783
gay-jizz rick is canadian eh

>>163878813
>
>>163878813
except snowman avatar

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>>163879039
>canada isn't in america

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fmages get out

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>>163874003
draw a busty fpriest

>>163879161
When people say Americans, they're usually referring to the U S of A.

>>163879047
even then duck suit is cuter

>>163879161
canada is only america's hat
nothing more

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>>163878813
t. dumb loser

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>>163879561
DUMB NENE POSTER

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>>163879246
>says fmages get out
>plays a fmage

>>163878813
>I've never seen the fgunner/fslayer avatars: the post

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>>163879683
I'm glad Red Witch replaced Lorraine. Now she no longer has her bitchy personality or her shit-tier outfit.
She's essentially a QT now.

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>>163879683
>>163880545
D E A D T O M E

E

A

D


T

O


M

E

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>>163879702
but f gunner and f slayer has some of the best avatars

>>163880703
Image not related, right

>>163880694
but you can talk to her any time in mirror arad so shes not dead

>>163880545
cute

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>>163880784
But now see it through the power of visualization

>>163880889
>no bulge
no thanks i prefer futa launcher

>>163881015
kys EMPhomo

why do you want fmage gf?

dream for you

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>>163881064
i'm not her though

>>163878813
>>163879702

I'm pretty sure the worst outfits belong to F.Fighter.

>>163880545
She's a massive cutie. I want to violate her.

>>163881228
her face looks like she does the violating

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W H E N
H
E
N

>>163881303
No way. She's a sweetheart.

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>>163881168
>her

everyone here is a rude girl

fuck this place

why are all male mage players either "sonic the hedgehog" autistic or gay?

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>>163883372
omg (lol)

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>>163883372

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Dana...

>>163883424
same reason all fmage players are either "speech impediment" autistic or pedophiles

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>>163884787
Dana, I...

Will the new mage (male) classes be more fun than elebomber or GM?

GM is pretty darn fun

How do you get the avatar set for your character class? I really want the one for my vanguard but I have no idea how to get it.

>>163885756
Wait for an event that will never come back

Play cdnf(?)

>>163885823

That's disappointing I guess. Lancers don't really have any good cosmetics right now so it would have been nice to have.

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>>163885239
do not bully the bug bug

>>163885239
DELETE THIS

>>163886172
>>163886232
Your class is shit and will always be shit

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I need a bug bug gf to hug and be stepped on by.

>>163885681
blood is fun, swift is alright, DW is boring

>>163885681
they're new so obviously. you will get bored of something eventually though. if you enjoy gm, you will probably like swift.

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>log back onto my GM
>have 1.5k extra sp

>log onto witch
>all my sp was reset

The fuck is this

>>163881228
it must be difficult to live life as this much of a 1 inch virgin

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Stop making alts.

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>>163888913
Fuck you you're not my real mom

>>163889019
Can you please stop posting those pictures.

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>>163889019
Mawm...

>>163888913
Would if I could, but the chairwoman of the Itty Bitty Titty Committee is calling me.

>>163889019
Calm your nips, mom.

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>fmage dressup/discussion upthread made me try out ele

>it's fucking FUN

>>163890038
idiot

dude

fucking arad got 85 epic weapon transfer stone in their lost treasure

http://arad.nexon.co.jp/news/notice_view.aspx?no=7840

fucking what

>>163890071
I'm sure I'll hit the part where it's not fun soon

I'm only 35

>>163890172
all ebins, chrons and legs should be transferrable desu

sellable even

>>163890172
that's so two threads ago
>>163333647

>>163890172
glorious Nihon

>>163890038
can you be my gf at level 86?

>>163890709
Are you a cute girl?

>>163890709
Are you a cute boy?

>>163890709
Are you a cute attack helicopter?

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>>163890842
>>163890961
>>163891294

>>163890842
>>163890961
>>163891294
I'm a future Dimension Walker

>>163892285
So, all three at the same time?

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>>163892348
>>163892285

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>163892636
I want to buy one of those live and try something now.

Can anybody explain how mirage stance works on skirmisher? I use the swirling skill spear and try to cancel it with mirage stance but nothing happens. On the flip side I'm able to cancel non-mirage skills with mirage skills.

Am I just retarded or what am I doing wrong?

>>163893487
yes

>>163888913
I stopped making and playing alts like seven months ago.

I am locked into Avenger and will ride this train until I die.

>>163893941
Stop playing Avenger.

>>163893992
I'm geared enough now that I can trick people into putting me in heroic anton parties.

No.

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>>163888913
It's too late, the damage is already done.

>>163887903
Anon please, I've already fapped today

>>163894305
Lightna!

>>163888913
What's this new meme of Varg telling people to stop having fun?

>>163894305
Hi Tessa

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why does it feel like its one goddamn chink behind the prices of all the +11/+12 tickets?

fucking CHINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>163894972
currency manipulation comes natural to the chinese

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>>163894305
Would you kill!

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>>163894305
>>163894752
>>163894949
I'm going to put it in her disassembler!

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>>163895857

>>163894752
>>163894949
retards

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>>163896010
Tessa...

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>>163896010
Why are you so mean, Tessa...?

>>163896115
>>163896227
tessa doesn't have an exorcist IDIOTS

>>163894752
>>163894949
>>163896115
>>163896227
>>163895646
>petit pet name
>title
>m.exo drop
definitely not Tessa, just some anonymous bug bug

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>it's another you have to level an alt through ghent episode

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>it's another random namedrop episode
geez louise go get a dfo bf gf already...

If you are reading this

Vyolets, pls become my dfo gf before new year

I just +12 my Balmung so please

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>>163896928
They... don't exist...
;-;

who the fuck is Vyolets

>>163897227
The next meme shitter the autists in this thread will post about.

>>163897227
>>163873919

Some rude NFA girl

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>>163897139
>he thinks we don't exist
omg (lol)

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>>163897227
Vyolets...

Who the fuck started that "omg lol" meme

I want to strangle whoever started that.

>>163897493
me on the bottom right

Trina aka v501...