scg/edg/ Star Citizen/Elite:Dangerous general #112

So will the switch to Lumberyard improve performance?

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>>163789152
Pirate Cat best Cat.

Why the fuck is the game sending wings of mostly harmless eagles against me when I'm in an A-rated corvette?

>>163789336
I heard the inside was a different color. I like the natural green.

>>163789317
with networking, supposedly.

>>163789407
To make you feel like a big scary man

>>163789317

For 3.0 and beyond Lumberyard should remove lots of the server/network bottlenecks that currently hammer client performance.

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What ever happened to the Redeemer?

Is it getting scrapped and were getting refunds?

It's definitely in need of a serious redesign.

>>163789446
Yup. The puke-green is replaced with red as the accent colour. I like it a lot more than the Covalex Cat.

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>>163789545
I dunno man, it doesn't seem as comfy.

>Ok, so I can't fuck up and spend my actual UEC in any way except on Voyager Direct.

Yes and I highly recommend to holding on to your shekels.

>Any money I make or spend in the PU will be aUEC.

Yes and will be wiped between patches along with anything you have bought with it.

>REC is made in AC and spent on EA.
Yes

>Items purchased with REC are only available in AC.

No, items you rent will be also available in the PU (Crusader).

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>>163789534
It's going to be awesome. Remember that small backdoor on the upper floor between shitter and shower ? rover entrance!

>>163789534

Current Redeemer model is pretty much a 3D concept, it needs completely rebuilding to work with damage states and to be up to new CIG standards.

It's funny that it was the winning entry, but Paul is being given ships like the 85X after making the universally despised Vanguard. Elwin, another TNGS hire, was one of the main people making the motherfucking Caterpillar.

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>>163789712
The red struts frustrate me severely. The more earthen colors fit better.

>>163789712
Better than puke green. Besides, I'm not a corporate whore. Fuck Covalex.

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When SC gets to a state of something like 4.0 or 5.0 (very far from now), I wish to dedicate myself to destroying vanduul ships. It's my calling. I'll join an org determined to kill them constantly in the real PU

>>163790001
Which gunship was Elwin involved in?

Alright guys, let's talk 325A loadouts.

I've spent about 6 hours in AC with the stock load out now, and I'd like to start experimenting with different load-outs.

What's a good S2 to replace the stock fixed wing lasers with? I'd like something with a little higher ROF than the stock lasers.

Also, opinions on leaving a high damage per shot S2 weapon on a gimbal for the front as a sniping / finishing / opportunistic weapons versus just stripping the gimbal off and putting a fixed S3 with similar muzzle velocity to my 2 x S2 mounts to maximize alpha?

>>163789780

I have a stick, but I've always been shit with it so I generally only use it in single player games. So, I'll probably be using mouse control.

I've been doing most of my fighting with the fixed lasers which has been easy enough with the mouse (coming from War Thunder). I'll switch over to the gimbal'd mass driver for long range sniping, punching additional holes when shields down, or to squeeze a shot or two in when I can't quite get the fixed lasers on target.

>>163790161
Seems autistic. Why?

>>163790019

I was so fucking hyped for the Buccaneer before they revealed the concept.

It looks cool, but I was hoping for the Drake equivalent of the 300i or Avenger. Something with a cramped interior space for long range loitering.

>>163790259
I don't remember the team name, but I'm quite sure he was the dude who was working alone, but still managed to deliver higher quality than the other teams.

Actually now that I think about it, he was team Skyguard iirc.

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>there are people who wouldn't want to be in an organized effort to take this son of a bitch down

Why even play this game at all

>>163790320
I love the challenge they pose

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>>163790161
Sounds like Pitchfork is right up your alley: their goal is to take back and hold former UEE systems that the Vanduul have occupied.

>>163790324
I was looking forward to a replacement for the bloated Cutlass, which also didn't happen. Buccaneer turned into a pure fighter, which it will probably be pretty good at. It's geared up to be a decent short ranger, though.

>>163790259

I can't remember what it was called but it was a bit like a futuristic AC-130, with a turret on top. Concept was cool but very space-plane-y.

The model was very high quality but he couldn't keep up with the others because he was on his own. I don't think that the interior was finished.

Ultimate TNGS would have been Boomslang exterior with Redeemer-like interior, modelled by Elwin plus Shimapan guys.

>>163790506
stop promoting reddit here

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If only CIG would give us this level of FOV as default the game would stop feeling like a console shit-tier shooter.

>>163790324

Honestly that seems like the kind of ship that should be most common. Single crew ships with small, comfy interiors and a little bit of cargo space that are well suited to solo adventurers.

Oddly enough, it's also the most neglected ship category out there with pretty much only the 300 series and Avenger having the right mix of capabilities.

I don't want a pure fighter, I don't want a ship that requires a second crew member to be 100% utilized, and I don't want a specialist ship.

>>163790409
>>163790620
Looks alright, Brutus was my favorite though.

Is this mostly an ED or SC general? Not sure what to invest in

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>>163790720
Holy fuck look at this shit in game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlGed0BpAfw

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>>163790105
I dunno, man, the exterior of the COVALEX Caterpillar fucking sucks due to the advertisement for an in-game shipping company, but the interior green feels better to me. Opinions, though.

>>163790506

>Buccaneer turned into a pure fighter, which it will probably be pretty good at.

It reeks of NPC fodder to me, for Super Hornet pilots to mow through while they stroke their micropenis.

It's got a very odd mix of guns and if the Herald is any indication it will have zero flexibility on missiles. Cockpit view looks good and I'm sure it will be fast, but I think that between the Hornet, Gladius and Sabre this niche is already covered.

>>163790883
>>163790720

Been playing for months like this, m8.

>>163790912
Fair enough. The red accent colour made me a lot more aware of the interior though for some reason.

Just got SC, the download apparently has 0.27KB left, and it won't finish. Any ideas what might be wrong?

>>163790829
SC. ED is RIP beyond fixing. SC still has hope. See OP for details on either: note that SC has plenty more in the way of updates and videos. That's not coincidence.

>>163790430
I want to solo that thing. Maybe there is a moment of vulnerability when it is parked, or you can cheese it with Stealth and EMP, but I want to take it down by myself with nothing but a pistol, a knife, and what I take from the dead.

>>163791107

It's a bug.

DO NOT restart your launcher.

Use a VPN to finish the download, the free one that CIG recommends is tunnelbear.

Are there any large ships coming in 3.0? I'm a size queen.

>>163790506
I know about pitchfork, but that's at the end of the beta. I plan to do it as a full time career if possible.

>>163790720
too bad the displays are microscopic if you do this

>>163791240
>>163791107
If that doesn't work, just open up installdirectory\Cloud Imperium Games\Star Citizen\Public\Bin64 and run StarCitizen.exe manually.

>>163789876
where's this image from?

>>163791265
I think the constellation aquila? I'm not sure, but the largest ships we currently have are the Caterpillar, Starfarer, Retaliator, and consellation andromeda.

>>163791223
And I thought I was autistic in thinking that a dedicated group of orgmates would be able to take it down. Then I found you.

>>163790935
They removed FOV options in 2.6, m8

>>163791265
Scroll down, each patch adds a few more

http://imgur.com/gallery/MV2PM

>>163791351
Look at >>163790883, there's definitely a happy middle-ground

>>163791453
For the plebs they did, yes

>>163791447
I'm not dumb enough to do it, I just want to try.

>>163791721
What do you mean

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>>163791860
I mean there is still a way to change it

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>>163791912
Will trade anime ships for FOV secrets

What are some good weapons to slap on a freelancer? I got some REC and I'm not sure what to spend it on.

>>163792127
Sorry but I can't risk my #842 leaderboard ranking by sharing trade secrets

>>163792254
>caring about a mediocre leaderboard ranking in an alpha game

>>163792129
Tarantulas.

>>163792254
I call shenanigans

>>163792313
literally top 1% of citizens. Feels good being elite.

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>>163792127
>literal flab folds
>fucking man face

Is this the "40 year old motel hooker" look?

>>163791912
make a user.cfg file and add cl_fov = 75 (or whatever number you like)

>>163792737
Thats the pleb method that got locked out

>>163789712
This would be fine if they'd swapped out all the greens for reds but it seems like every surface that's not red or yellow has a green tint still. Maybe it's just my eyes.

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>>163792254
I will find you.

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>>163792830
I'm a careful man, I didn't mention what mode

>>163792830

SS and timestamp your post. When PU goes gold in 5 years or however long it's going to take, I'll help you track down and serial murder him if he doesn't share his secret.

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>>163792957
We'll get every single 842 in every mode if that's what it takes. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words.

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>>163793220
Luckily, I can see you coming thanks to my >90 degree FoV

>>163793220

Write down all their names. I'll need something to do once the universe goes live anyway, and having a kill list and partner sounds like a fun way to get started. It'll be our personal quest. You for perceived slights against you, me for profit.

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>>163793292
>360° FOV
>I SEE EVERYTHING
>MY EYES ARE UNBLINKING
>I WANT TO LOOK AWAY BUT I MUST WATCH

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>>163792127
>M50
>not a cute loli
Dropped

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>>163792957
>>163793220
You better prepare for the storm, maggot.

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God damn it

>>163790720
what is this, the canopy and hud are completely different from what we have now, is that in the most recent german mag?

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>>163793715
here you go familia

>>163793985
Now find me some delicious Caterpillar Onee-sama.

>>163791275
Well there is that vanduul scrap hanger decoration which loosely implies that there might be a good market for vanduul trophies.

>>163793879
No this was a render by one of those CryEngine fags on plebbit. Probably using a really old Gladius model or some shit but not anything relevant. It just shows how cool the game would look with a decent fucking FOV.

>Found out that your trick to change FoV also got hit between 2.6 builds without knowing
>Enouraged some anons to kill some shitters with leaderboard positions hundreds of places below you

mixed bag of a day

>tfw too intelligent to believe ruses without proofs

>>163793862
Is this in spectrum?

>>163794665
No.

How do I access spectrum?

>>163794803
https://ptu.cloudimperiumgames.com/spectrum

>>163794481
nice blog

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>>163794120
I was kind of hoping CIG would create some kind of "guns for hire" system. Obviously the UEE needs whatever help they can get fighting back the vanduul, so maybe they'd pay people certain amounts of UEC for killing certain amounts of vanduul, with escalating amounts for larger targets (a single soldier is pennies, and a capital ship is a boatload of money,at the price of them being hard to kill). Through being an autist and reading the lore, apparently there's a place on Selene (Vega II) in Vega called the children of Orion who do just that: go into vanduul space, kill some, then come back for pay.

I don't really expect some ultra complicated system for it. I just want to hunt large vanduul ships like their bombers, whatever frigate they might get, etc with some kind of return.

If not that, I'd gladly take up missions to destroy rebel groups on planets or something.

>>163792324
What makes a tarantula better than a Mantis GT-220? Any advice on missiles?

>>163795249

>tl;dr Mercenary System

>>163795530

>What makes a tarantula better than a Mantis GT-220?

Better accuracy, no windup time, high damage per shot. More efficient overall.

Right now laser cannons are pretty good, so maybe try the M5A's.

>Any advice on missiles?

No idea what the Freelancer gets but S1 missiles are garbage, might as well use Marksman. Best S2 missiles are Tempest and Dominator. Not tried all of the S3 missiles but the Arresters are very, very good.

>>163794803
I don't think spectrum is available to you unless you had access to PTU

>>163795813
Yeah, but for Vanduul.

>>163795530
It's a skill cannon. A few volleys will kill an SH. The mantises are fine, but they run out of ammo fairly quickly, and you're likely to miss most shots. If not the Tarantulas, get the C - 227 repeaters. Never run out of ammo. Overall energy weapons are your best bet, but for AC Tarantulas are bomb

>>163792254
>my #842 leaderboard ranking
Aimbots are being used in Star Marine, and exploiters are at the top of Arena Commander.

Stop caring.

is it just me or is the shotgun total shit? maybe it's a lag thing but I get 3 good hits on people and they turn around and headshot me with their AR.

>>163797050
Lag. I've had shotgun users blast me in one shot.

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Lasers > Ballistics

>>163797195
figures, shotguns often have that problem in online games.

>>163796380
The PTU is completely open to all backers now. I think the 2.6 PTU testers had a client version of Spectrum to test out or something, but the version right now is just the web-version on the PTU site which any backer can copy his account to to try it out.

>>163797050
No it's not just you.

1) Energy shotguns 900 years in the future still require a pump action mechanic, because TACTICOOL SHOTGUN.

2) Point blank missing with shotgun is not bullshit 'because reasons'.

3) Aimbot shitters bypass the 5-6 second TTK and simply go for head shots.

4) Bypass armor all together by shooting people from behind, because armor 900 years in the future doesn't apply to your back, only chest and legs because MUH SPACE MARINE.

Poor design decisions, and hardly any weapon balance has been tweaked since they basically released it a few days ago over Christmas.

>>163797328
Odd. I had to copy the PTU password I was given to keep accessing spectrum.

>>163797335
>>163796571

Hey there shitter anon, didn't get enough ridicule yesterday?

>>163797209
Nice bullshot. The game doesn't look so nice while you are playing it.

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>aimbot anon from last thread still mad

>>163797335
>Bypass armor all together by shooting people from behind
Wait, is this really a thing?

What the fuck, CIG

>>163797469
Not sure if it's just proper hit detection, but people drop pretty quickly if you shoot them in the back.

>>163797469
Yeah that's the cultist response to aimbots. Telling people it's their own fault for not being good enough to kill people from behind.

>>163797465
Mad? No.

>>163797428
But ridicule isn't an argument, and doesn't suppress the truth. You can ridicule anyone as much as you like, it's probably just going to make you look like a childish idiot.

>>163797447

>I game with a potato powered toaster

>>163797623
30 goto 10
>>163797428

>>163797675
>look at this high-resolution marketing screenshot from of 2 outlaws hiding behind a wall while 2 marines run down a corridor in to an ambush
>it's legit that you will see in real gameplay

>>163797852
>look at this high-resolution
>1920x803
>high-resolution

So he was right, potato-PC.

>>163797967
>803 pixel height resolution
>not cropped
At least be honest that you're a shill. Put on a tripcode.

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There's nothing even that special about the shot. Here's one I just took real quick of some video I recorded

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>>163798124
1920x1080 wouldn't be a high resolution either.

Just standard HD. The fact you would comment on it being so high speaks to the fact you PC is in fact, a potato.

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@163798356
>1920x1080 wouldn't be a high resolution
It's literally called HD, High Definition.

Just to remind you how good this game can look with better camera angles

https://youtu.be/LrTut3lAFs0

I still think the colors are too muted to look like that PR screenshot but the game will only look better and better once they add proper post-processing effects.

>No ED posts

feels bad man

So how're things going for Star Citizen? I've been gone for a week or two but there seems to have been quite a few happenings in that time.

>>163798478
Make them. I can't post about what I don't play any longer

>>163798478
What's there to talk about?

>>163798417
see
>>163705256

At least get new images, goonie!

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>>163798485
STAR CITIZEN MASSIVE ENGINE CHANGE 4 YEARS IN

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>>163798629

>>163796405
Forgive me, but I don't understand. If energy weapons are overall better, why are you telling me to use a ballistic weapon ?

>>163798584
retarded post

>>163798584

No more shield tanks. Plasma bypasses resistance and shield strength maxes out at two modded boosters.

The shield changes are supposedly "experimental and only going to be implemented in live if if there is overwhelming support" but we've heard exactly that same bullshit before with the ship transfers.

>>163798629
http://wccftech.com/star-citizen-switches-engines/
>As a consequence, we do not have to change the fundamental core engine at all which is why this change has had absolutely no effect on our development of Star Citizen.
really, why did CR had to word the newsletter that way? I feel like it's almost intentional or something

>>163798830
The ballistic guns like the Tarantula, if used properly, will kill targets a lot faster than energy weapons of equivalent size, but you run into the issue of ammo. Energy weapons do not run out of ammo, but they don't so as much damage. In AC, a mode where you will probably die a few times, ballistics would probably be preferred. In the PU, where ammo may not be available, energy weapons may be preferred.

>>163798548
Want to but I just got back into the game so theres not much for me to tell or post.

Still got my Vulture and quickly found out even though its almost fully upgraded without engineering i got fucking assraped by ships just a single size bigger, not even 20 seconds into a fight with a Python or dropship and I'm down to 50% hull, nigger what the fuck

I thought the vulture was supposed to be the best fighter

>>163799086
They had to make RNGingeers worth it somehow to justify a full game's asking price. So grind or die, I guess.

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>>163799010
Gotcha! Thanks, anon.

>>163798485
2.6 released, Vanduul hero capital ship unveiled, Crytek RIP in RIP, switch to Amazon Lumberyard (cryengine with different networking), and the lumberyard changes have already been made and are in 2.6, Caterpillar flight ready, Herald flight ready, and OP for shit I missed.

SM summed up:

Don't use shotgun
Don't use energy weapons at all

Remember to use your generic tacticool assault rifle which uses 1000 year old ballistic technology.

>>163799372
The energy AR/DMR would be decent if engagements weren't so clustered and people didn't move so fast and/or the damage falloff was greater.

>>163799372
Hot lead doesn't care what year it is. Hot lead will gladly pass through your squishy body any millennium. Hot lead will gladly slice through any armor you can think up. And if hot lead isn't enough, electrify it and it will probably pass through your shields too. You don't fuck with hot lead.

>>163798975
CIG is terrible at public relations. Or they're master trolls, who can really say?

>>163799372
>1000 year old ballistic technology
it'd be nice if it's at least caseless or something but CIG has no idea what guns are so we're using a G36C
at least the P8 series looks more original

>>163799704
Caseless would be fucking garbage for space.

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>>163800000
CHECKED

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>>163800127
whoops

>>163798689
Thank you!

The people that go apeshit over the so called "engine switch" seems to have no idea what StarEngine, CryEngine or Lumberyard is, or what a game engine is at all.

It's like they think it's just 1 specific thing.

>>163800000
wew, nice digits lad.

>>163800000
Heat sensitivity? Yeah, that seems like it would cause some major fucking problems.

Any way to earn REC from space marine, or is it just for fun?

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>>163800000

The fouling wouldn't be much of an issue. Caseless would make the heat issue in space worse, but I can imagine space-rifles having cooling systems or just heat sinks.

Cased Telescoping would be the best of both worlds. Image is a bunch of 40mm cannon rounds so not really applicable to rifles, but this layout has a ton of advantages and I expect we'll see it in about 100 years when NATO gets tired of 5.56.

>>163798975
because he would know people ejaculate at the thought of them screwing up

>>163800000
I thought space debris would be a problem though we should have solved that along with heat issues if it's 900 years in the future

>>163800670
Just for fun. Haven't earned a damn thing.

>>163800793
At least it's fairly good fun.

>>163800670
just fun

What ship/loadout and activity is the best for earning REC?

>>163800684

Related:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/textron-systems-light-armaments-team-to-develop-lightweight-cased-telescoped-small-arms-for-us-army-2014-05-14?reflink=MW_news_stmp

>>163799372
or, why the humans won both Tevarin wars.

>>163800839
Yeah, I can't say that I haven't enjoyed it. Though I would enjoy it more if it was slower paced, bit more tactical and less running around like a headless cock.

>>163798975
At this point I think we have to accept the fact that everyone at CIG is tone deaf when it comes to PR and marketing.

They THINK they're really good at selling ships when in reality, it's just the massive SC dads and whales who keep buying the ships no matter how CIG markets them.

The Holiday stream shows to me that CIG just doesn't understand that showing progress is really what gets new backers invested.

>>163800959
CIG is a small family start-up company who hires hundreds of employees, with the goal of making CR's dream game. It's not a company like Activizion-Blizzard with the goal of establishing a handful of highly popular franchises to make the most money possible.

>>163800867

Do races.

As long as you are on the last lap when the race ends you will get decent REC.

Get an M50 and then actually start winning races. One of the tracks will net you about 2.5k REC in 10 minutes if you win.

>>163801175
>CIG doesn't care about the money
wew
Let me just go buy another one of these concept ships then.

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So what has people bought or plan to buy on the Boxing Sale?

>People want to play SC for its combination of spaceship combat and infantry warfare
>Proceed to release a spaceship only arena and a infantry only arena
Which ingenious fucktard thought this was a good idea.

When are they going to release what people want which is a combined arms arena. Also, where the fuck are the anti vehicle infantry weapons already. They can model and release a shitton of new ships to jew people with but cant make a single missile launcher?

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>>163801407
>When are they going to release what people want which is a combined arms arena.

Are you actually this fucking braindead or are you just a troll?

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>>163801407
>Not going into Crusader and doing what you're bitching about not being able to do
>Being the fucktard.
Lord, I'm takin' the bait.

>>163801407
>I just got into the general today
>I have no clue about anything SC

Wait til 3.0 and you'll get both in the same universe.

AC and SM (the parts you are referring to) are just stand alone modules.

>>163801316
CIG's value will mature over the years, since they've already got like 4 global offices and are shipping the largest crowd-funded games in history.

They had nothing, now they have 2 games (almost) and a bunch of offices. These office assets are worth a lot of money and will increase in value.

CIG will also get more efficient at creating games, as long as they keep their talent on board, who are familiar with their production pipeline, and can make plenty of sequels. If SQ42 has good reception, they will have an easy time maintaining the franchise. That's how AB did well with Starcraft and WoW, etc.

They should really go easy on the nickel & dime bullshit, though. And remove Ben from decision-making. A nice cosmetic cash shop would be inoffensive.

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So when can we expect some semblance of an autonomous world to actually do shit in with actual NPCs and randomized/procedural missions? I haven't looked at anything for a year.

>>163801505
>>163801563
>PU
Is the same sound you make as the quality of that experience. Shit.

>>163801596
Yes and there should be a standalone module that combines both that isnt that god fucking awful persistent one.

>>163801627
>So when can we expect some semblance of an autonomous world to actually do shit in with actual NPCs and randomized/procedural missions? I haven't looked at anything for a year.
Definitely sometime in the future, around a point of time beyond this immediate situation over current events and past what we have already.

>>163800923
This

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>>163801602
I may have not gotten why the hate towards Ben, so can anyone care to elaborate?

What kind of shit specifcaly has Ben done?

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>>163801338
BUCC

>>163800923
>bit more tactical and less running around like a headless cock.
This will never happen, the only game alive today thats actually tactical and justifiably so is Squad and there is no way SC can capture that.

>>163801709
>Is the same sound you make as the quality of that experience. Shit.
So what you're asking is that they improve on the game and develop it further? Wow. What a novel and revolutionary idea. CIG should totally hire you before you get yourself killed out of sheer retardation, you donut.

>>163801602
I honestly don't understand why CIG is so inept at hiring people. They have all the resources necessary to hire a world-class PR team yet they keep the same old buffoons on for the sake of "community connection" or just sheer nepotism/favoritism.

>>163801709
One of the plans is to let people host their own servers if you dont want to join the persistent one if that's what you want?

But you'll have to wait, they are still early in the development. You can't expect all stretchgoals to be in the game within the next 2 years.

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>>163801231
Appreciate the tip.
Any tips for racing?

>>163801898
>buying an early game ship
Nigga why

Get a Gladiator, at least it will always be useful as a missile/torp boat. You'll stop using the Bucc the moment you get some cash. Or a cutlass, at least that can do more than 1 thing.

In fact we really need a buyers guide for ships you should waste money on to stop people buying these ingame cheap but irl expensive ships.

>>163801859
Ben decided it was a good idea to put limited availability on certain digital items, i.e. Vanduul scythes and was the one who decided to price them at like $300.

I'm pretty sure he was the one behind the decision to take away LTI except for concept sales.

He's since been promoted to "director of ships" which pretty much mean he's the one behind pricing and probably a bunch of other shit and dictating their value. Just take a look at their shitty webstore and the obscene prices to understand why I'm salty about it.

Say what you want about /v/ but at least they are right when they laugh at $15,000 DLC prices.

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>>163801602
>>163801950
Ben is the largest obstacle.

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>>163801859
Here, have this.

>>163801950
Funny enough, I think they spend all that money that would be spent on marketing and PR on people to actually make the game.

>>163801950
>So what you're asking is that they improve on the game and develop it further?
No im asking for a arena with ships and infantry combat so we can actually test it and see it work which we absolutely can fucking not in the PU because its such a mess

Please stop being such a total fucking idiot who cant even read

>>163801898
Tried it on the free fly weekend.

Manouvered like shit.

Was it just supposed to be fast in the forward direction compared to it's size?
The pitch and yaw was terrible, but I guess that's how the ship was ment to be.

>>163802047
>But at least they are right

They use those retarded prices to misinfo, they make it seem like you NEED to pay 15 grand just to play the game. No, those vermin are not right because whenever they bring it up, it's not for the right reasons.

>>163802051
Ben himself treated a lot of WC fans like trash, especially if they were women. The reason he didn't see many were because he's a fat fucking asshole.

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>>163802146

>>163802047
Also, Ben was apparently the one mulling over how much to make the Polaris worth in UEC in-game, and allegedly told this other guy who admitted it; '30 million UEC is a fair price'.

So essentially 40x the dollar price.

Ben was also quoted saying he has no problem with the concept of selling hacks to players who would pay for it. I'm sure someone on here has the screenshot somewhere.

>>163802051
>Everyone pretends to be men
>There is no difference in gender
>No one gets attacked for being different
>"this is a bad thing we need everyone to oust their gender, home address, sexual orientation, social security number and their favorite pet so everyone attacks everyone else for shit not relevant to games"
I will never take these faggots seriously. How can you argue for something that is counter productive to the objective you are trying to achieve.

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>>163802051

>>163802146
Teach me your ways, time traveler. Tell me of the future and things that never fucking happened.

>>163801992
Go slow enough to make the corners and finish laps. More important to learn the tracks than worry about position. You don't know which track you will get, so work up to it slowly.

>>163801950
>They have all the resources necessary to hire a world-class PR team yet they keep the same old buffoons on for the sake of "community connection" or just sheer nepotism/favoritism.
I agree except if they went for top-tier marketers we don't know how aggressively they'd push their cash shop or pay2win.

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>>163802414

>>163802302
The more I read about Ben the more I hate the fat fuck.

>>163802437
>>163802259
He might have mistaken the sabre for the bucc.

>>163802146
Bucc isn't out yet, newfriend. Maybe you thought of another ship?

>>163802494
I don't hate Ben, I just get annoyed thinking about his input in to the project.

I didn't want to end up with hundreds of dollars sunk in to this game all for the sake of avoiding grind. It's made me quite bitter, on the whole.

People keep saying that LTI is not important or that there won't be grind, but these people are idiots. Gold sinks and tedious grind are like cancer and CIG are no different than other devs; they want people to be buying currency. Having cheap items is the polar opposite of their business model of selling UEC. Guess which one they'll go with.

>>163802105
Yet they still pay inept PR people to do a shitty job at it and pay for comparably extravagant custom space doors.

I'm not saying that "muh expensive space door" is a bad thing, I'm just saying that it looks silly when they show off all their "disposable" income like that when they still employ a shitty PR team--something that's way more integral to the project than a fancy door to an expensive-looking office.

>>163802489
I didn't know a whale could attract a satellite.

>>163801709
>there should be a standalone module that combines both that isnt that god fucking awful persistent one.
crusader. you can spawn your ship for free as many times as you want. or how about freeflight?

Panther or M5A? Which one overheats faster?

>>163802302
>Ben was also quoted saying he has no problem with the concept of selling hacks to players who would pay for it. I'm sure someone on here has the screenshot somewhere.
Requesting the screencap of this. Don't fail me, /scg/.

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>>163802574
>>163802437
>>163802259

Fuck, you're right.
I was so tired that day that It may be the Freelancer I was testing.
Or maybe I have dreamt it...

I have found the component point for the cooler and both power plants on the Freelancer. Where is the shield point(s)?

>>163802904
>Why dont you just play in one of these game modes that doesnt offer what you're asking for
Boy anon i dunno

Call me when you have 29 other people available for a balanced fight with combined arms and ill come join

>>163803018
>That horn

Is that an oni? Shit, guess I gotta look for this one.

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>>163802904
He literally just wants CIG to make Battlefield in Star Citizen. This same kind of guy will probably then complain that CIG is focusing too much on modules than actually making the fucking persistent universe.

Honestly I do actually think that it would be a pretty cool mode to see but with 3.0 and SQ42 on CIG's plate, I doubt we'll see a combined arms module anytime soon.

>>163802765
>inept
star citizen is the donald trump of videogames the shit rags just can't help talking about it for free while they spend no money on advertising. they've really proven that 'no publicity is bad publicity' still holds true. besides, pr probably just sets up event paperwork and german magazine exclusives.

>>163803282
>a balanced fight
lol you fag. is AC balanced? no. you wont find balance any place there is ships.

>>163803442
>hes complaining about something I also think is a pretty good idea
You're a moron

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>>163802473
Prince among men.

>>163803581
>only one guy sort of on your side
>calls him a moron
wew, who's the moron now

>>163790281
>>163790281

Anyone care to chime in on this?

>>163802920

Not sure about heat but the M5A is the better gun overall. The longer range is nice but the main thing is the accuracy: Badgers and Panthers got nerfed to shit on that front. They lose accuracy as they fire, and the spread gets pretty bad pretty fast.

>>163802302

Other than the basic PTU missions we have no idea what kind of rate for UEC is realistic. Remember that the Polaris is supposed to be shared by 10+ people, it's the type of ship that is owned by an org.

If a 30 person org wants to run a Polaris plus escorts then that's only 1 million UEC each, the equivalent of four Vanguards.

Personally I think that these big ships should be out of the reach of the average player acting alone. Not everyone should have one.

>>163803440
Got a tl;dr?

>>163802920
Panthers are well worth it, ROF is important

>>163803581
I'm afraid you are the moron. they've talked plenty about capture the idris, if it's not in dev it's because they have more important goals right now.

>>163803572
>PU is more balanced than either arena
>its easier to get into a fight in PU than either arena
>>>/out/

>>163803442
>Im going to throw together a bunch of claims of what I think he wants that sounds bad to undermine the argument!
Yeah fuck me for wanting to actually be able to test the core gameplay which is in situations where there are both ships and infantry fighting instead of being forced to arrange people to get together in the PU which never works.

The thing is they could literally do this in the star marine module right fucking now and it would work. Have the defenders spawn on a station with a few ships and have the attackers spawn on a dropship with a few escorts. I dont know why you hate wanting to play SC so much but this isnt just a giant pit of remorse for you to wallow in as you waste money on the cash shop.

>>163803805
Listen to the video time index for like 20 seconds
See >>163802940

>>163803682
Not him fucknugget, I just think its amusing you hate on someone for posting an idea that you also like. Typical /scg/ retardation.

>>163803867
>They've talked about something so it exists
/scg/ retardation 2.0

>>163803772
>>163803862
nvm my shit is out of date if they got nerfed

>>163803282

>still bitching about "combined arms" combat

Listen here you dribbling retard, a shoebox arena where spaceplanes crash into the map trying to shoot infantry is not fun for anyone.

The whole thing will come together in the PTU with 3.0, when there are planet surfaces and things to kill on those surfaces.

>>163803975
>a shoebox arena where spaceplanes crash into the map trying to shoot infantry is not fun for anyone.
>SC is shit and I dont like it
So why are you in this general? Because what you described as shit is exactly what SC is.

>shooting on a planet is different from shooting on a space station in a game where there is no difference
Boy anon you really want to prove you're a moron today dont you.

>>163803259
No Lance bros got the answer on this?

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Not sure on which 300 series ship to pledge on.
I'm torn between the 315p and 325a - Most reviews mention that it's usually better to go for the cheaper ships because you can fit them out to be just as good.

So my question is - is the targeting system on the 325a worth the extra $5 USD? Or is the scanner / jump engine more valuable overall?

>>163803880
Oh, should have quoted the anon requesting Ben saying that.

>I think of going back to the original privateer; back in the day 1993, I could download a trainer program, I could give myself a million credits and be done with the game. Which lots of people did. If the group of people, wants that to be their game experience, and can subsidize the server costs for everybody else who actually wants to have fun with it, that's fantastic, let's let them.

>>163803961
you seriously are fucking stupid. obviously it doesn't exist and I said as much, and the reason is they are in eternal crunch for sq42, and it's just not that much of a priority right now.

>>163803975
>a shoebox arena where spaceplanes crash into the map trying to shoot infantry is not fun for anyone
You mean "not fun for me".

I'm not even the guy you're replying to but what you just described sounds fun.

>>163803975
>a shoebox arena where spaceplanes crash into the map trying to shoot infantry is not fun for anyone.
Why are you even playing SC if you dont like SC. You do realize SC is selling because its combined arms right? There is literally hundreds of games for space combat that do it better and hundreds for space infantry games that do it better. SC is does both which hardly any games do.

>>163803879
>instead of being forced to arrange people to get together in the PU which never works
If this gameplay never happens in the PU to the point where you have to arrange people to make it happen, maybe it's not the most important thing to need to test.

I only supported you idea because I thought it would be fun, not because it was a good idea.

>>163804167
Oh so now you realize that something not existing is not the same as something existing, well done you gained a brain cell! Now if you can just figure out why not being able to test a fundamental part of the game is a problem then you will figure out why you're a moron.

>>163803862
>>163803969

The repeaters are still good if you get right up on your enemy, as in under 500m, and they are not moving too fast.

With perfect accuracy the DPS is a fraction higher than the M-series cannons, but the M-series have a much easier time hitting the target.

The size 1 repeaters, the CF-007 Bulldogs, are still really accurate and they match OK with the size 2 cannons.

>>163804234
>we shouldn't test a situation thats going to happen because it might not happen even when it is going tohappen because thats the whole game
You're trolling. Well done I actually thought you were being serious for a bit there.

Please go kill yourself.

>>163804131
This doesn't answer your specific question, but I think address your overall concern:

6 months (or however long) into the full release of the game. What's gonna be more useful. A 1 man quick ship with decent speed and operating range (that has potentially better sensors)? Or a slightly less shitty 1 man fighter?

>>163804303
>responding to your own greentext strawman as if it's what I actually said
disgusting. go talk to real people some time and discover that your behaviour is not acceptable

>>163803975
>a shoebox arena where spaceplanes crash into the map trying to shoot infantry is not fun for anyone.
So you dont like SC

>>163804194
Well, speaking for myself here, but I bought the game on the promise of it being a great space combat game, which was the main selling point at the beginning. I don't give a shit about the mediocre fps, and smooshing two shitty games together into one shitty combined ops game isn't exactly tantalizing.

>>163804439
>talk to real people
I agree, you're too stupid to be considered a person.

Ill take your complete lack of addressing the point as evidence you woke up to the fact you're a moron and realized how stupid you are trying to claim that because they talked about something one time it therefore exists and satisfies what people are asking for.

>>163804123
I know where the shield is supposed to be, but it's inaccessible currently, I guess.

>>163804574
>promise of it being a great space combat game
>the arena is forever going to be an unbalanced mess and the PU will forever be a laggy mess
Well you got fleeced

do most hardpoints now allow missile racks or what?

>ship ranges drastically reduced, missile lockon range even shorter for some damn reason.
>Gladius now slower than sabre, and only slightly more agile than a hornet while being super easy to target in new flight model
>Flight model slower and more dull than ever while ttk increased.
>Dogfighting consists of spending 5-8 minutes slowly plinking away at super armored pirate ships at 500 m range while both of you fly around at 80m/s or less.
>The one good change of the fm, large ships finally having speeds that reflect their huge thrust to mass ratios, is removed juat days before the pushed to live with little to no chance of feedback because god forbid large ship ever exist as anything beside slow moving targets or escort missions for Hornet and Sabre pilots who bitched and cried that their bulky gunships couldn't function as interceptors.
>Fov settings locked at 60 and consile command broken because of poorly implemented helmet overlay. CIG is starting to toss around words like vision direction and cinematic hinting at possibly leaving fov locked at console setting permanently.

I'm having a hard time remembering when I had less faith in the game.

>>163804574
>smooshing two shitty games together into one shitty combined ops game isn't exactly tantalizing.
>hating what SC was advertised as from day 1 as being the primary gameplay
You're playing the wrong game

>>163804758
>Vision direction and cinematic

Citation

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>>163804658
well, fuck a duck

>>163804813
The primary gameplay was advertised as "the best space sim ever" with a side helping of basic FPS. It was only later that CIG fucked the pooch with feature creep, promising all sorts of shit that we ended up the current "first person universe everything simulator"

>>163804429
Probably the 315p then.Thanks anon

Is there a way to set my guns to alternating fire instead of simultaneous fire?

>>163805382
You could set half your guns to group 2 and alternate mouse clicks. Admittedly, not a great option, but its there.

>>163803712

To maximise damage on target you want to use all of your guns, which means picking guns with similar projectile velocities.

Damage and speed stats are here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11B81QpGLgc2GeFsfLnVQLxGrqIfhKDKW1BiZ44E2HV8/edit#gid=2125521889

Worth bearing a few things in mind:

1) DPS given here assumes 100% accuracy and no spin time for miniguns. In-game the automatic weapons are substantially less accurate, and have much shorter range, than the slower-firing weapons.

2) Size 3 weapons are, with a couple of exceptions, punching well below their weight in terms of damage especially once accuracy is considered. It may be better to use gimballed S2 guns if you are more accurate with them.

3) Considering all of the above the GT-220 Mantis guns are fun as fuck.

Personally for a 325A I would go for Tarantulas: S3 on the nose and S2 on the wings. Good DPS and as good as perfect velocity matching.

If you want an energy loadout then the M4A and M5A cannons are very good in this patch: the new speeds and combat ranges suit them perfectly. DPS drops to basically nothing once they overheat however, making them shitty against Cutlasses and Vanguards unless you can mount 800-1000+ DPS worth of gun.

>>163804407
CIG should also make a dedicated farming module since farming is a situation that could possibly happen in the PU.

When will people understand that modules were only supposed to be a thing until they got everything together in one place--hence 3.0.

the FOV looks like 90 degrees. Why would anyone want any higher than that?

I set battlefront to 66 degrees since that's what I calculated my viewing angle to be. It would be cool if it distorted the image correctly to match a flat monitor

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>>163805929
Are you trolling or just blind?

>>163806193
no I stood at a right angle in the hangar and I could see both edges

>>163805929
>I don't want it therefore no one wants it

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I really don't like this new flight model

It's slow as shit and missiles are arguably at the worst they've ever been due to being easy as fuck to hit and missile pickups now being a thing

Is Crusader crashing for anyone else? I can do AC and SM, but Crusader hangs on loading until it crashes.

Back from around a year break. How do I see my weapons status? When I last played you had this floating ui pane which showed all of your weapons. Now in Vanduul swarm they just seem to stop working, with no obvious way to get an explanation as to why. Also missiles are replenished less frequently now?

What's this pirate swarm thing, better REC or just to be avoided?

When racing is any part of the atmospheric model in (such that orientation would have an effect on lift etc.) or is it still a free-flight model?

>>163807391
>How do I see my weapons status? When I last played you had this floating ui pane which showed all of your weapons.

you're supposed to look at the tiny monitor in your cockpit that's outside your view

>Also missiles are replenished less frequently now?

enemies drop pickups now including missiles

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GIVE ME 3.0

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>bulletproof glass in an FPS map

also the grenades are so fucked. Sometimes they don't even leave my hand and just explode on me a few seconds later

how much of this is networking that will get fixed in 3.0? also randomly guns stop working, or guns don't appear, or the radar doesn't appear

>>163807391
>Back from around a year break.
Stay away for maybe six more months and you'll come back to a game that's maybe actually worth playing.

Has Star Citizen stopped being vaporware yet?

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>>163809110
How can something stop being what it never once was?

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>>163800000
>>163800000
>>163800000
>>163800000

>>163808812
Just a year away anon.

PowerShell256

If you are here, I feel your pain.

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>>163802016
Nigga, Drake master race.
>mfw I already got a Cutlass
>mfw I already got a Dragonfly
>mfw I already got a 350r
>mfw I buy a Buccaneer and realize half my ships don't exist yet, the other half need to be reworked, and SC is the third most expensive thing I own.

>>163805592

So, always a better idea to use similar weapons it sounds like and fire them all together.

That being said, M4A/M5A for energy, and Tarantulas for ballistic. What in S2 size would pair well with a GT-220 for funs sake?

>>163810868

the only weapons with similar velocity are the Sawbuck with 1222 m/s (S2) and Longsword with 1410 m/s (S1)

neither are what i would consider high dps options.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE6ZzhyblCo&feature=youtu.be

>>163811548
>All them space ships
Can't wait to customize them so I can use them as props for my PnP group.

So i quit elite about a month after its release since it was crap. Now, a couple years later, i decided to go check it out, surely it would be better now since it apparently didnt die in this time span, right?
Yes! It is now about about what i would have considered acceptable right at release. Soon the avatar generator will be a thing and it will have waifus, and as you know games with waifus are futureproof thanks to autists. Unfortunately you all hopped on the SC bandwagon. You have no right to criticize elite for taking 2 years to become remotely acceptable if you support the SC feature bloat constant delay give more money scam.

>>163813349
Will I be able to shoot aliumz with a shotgun in Elite?

Will I be able to be the aliumz and shoot 'Umies with shotguns in Elite?

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>>163813565

>tfw really, really loving the Vanguard Warden

What the fuck, everyone says this ship sucks ass. I don't get it. The four nose lasers molest ships, and the chaingun is absolutely satisfying to shoot.

>make single post about actual aimbotter last thread
>suddenly 60 different autist screeching autisticly about aimbot

>>163813565
>Will I be able to shoot aliumz with a shotgun in Elite?
Yes, but only with big shotguns you can put on your ship. And considering walking around in your ships and stations is a long term goal maybe, but that would just be stupid, what kind of a peasant fights with out their ship?

>Will I be able to be the aliumz
You disgusting heretical scumbag. Human a best forever i bet scs aliens are a bunch of furries or scaleys or edgelords or something disgusting

>>163814104
Give the shitposters an inch they'll take a mile.

>>163798629

>MASSIVE ENGINE CHANGE

And just like swapping out the blown engine in my car with a forged racing version of that same engine, it took 2 days to take a worthless heap of aluminum and made it a kamikaze death trap.

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>>163813705
Pic related.

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I must say, the reliant's canopy is surprisingly heat resistant.

Can the 2946 pirate swarm & Vanduul swarm titles be earned in a private match? If so does anyone here want to group up and try to get 'em?

The fucking lag on SM tonight is making it fucking unplayable

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>>163813705
>>163814173
They plan on making Alium ships available, right? I do like the look of the Vanduul ships.

>>163815036
Get Amazon Prime. Jeff Bezos will put you on the good servers.

>>163815179
>Amazon Prime
>good servers

I hope to god this does not become a thing.

>>163806710
>missiles to easy to hit
>mfw retaliator pilot FEASTING on these OHK torp hits.

>>163815356
They'll integrate their little drones in there somehow.

Don't forget Amazon owns Twitch. Maybe you'll get UEC and other prizes if you use their services.

>>163817898
>This month's Twitch™© Prime® rewards include a SC Twitch™ Heavy Armor skin and an E-Sports paint job for your ship.

Anyone have a good reference for default Mouse and Keyboard keybinds that isnt the magnifying glass bullshit in game?

Also how do I toggle look-ahead targeting and also toggle gimbals?

All the googling I am doing brings up old results pls halp.

>>163815179
>>163815356
>>163817898
>>163818293
Amazon's online retail business and Amazon's cloud computing services only really share a name.

I'm not sure what you guys are memeing about.

>>163818586
It's the only thing they have left to whine about after all those hours we spent trying to get them to understand StarEngine and Lumberyard is the same engine where they each have modifications on certain parts.

>>163818586
How is it "memeing" to not want to have to buy an Amazon Prime account to be able to play on a decent server?

>>163819030
Pls stop. It's too early for baiting.

eyy ya, new to this gen jw if star cit is worth picking up in its current state? does it flow/easy to follow? i got ED when it came out, liked it a fair bit but got bored after 100 hours. havent read anything/much at all about star cit. should i get it? thanks guys

>>163819197
Check some for the videos linked above. If you lik what you see, pick up the starter package that includes Squadron 42.

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>>163819197
Not if you have something else to play

>>163819083
So, you want to pay for Amazon Prime?

>>163819261
yeah the videos it all looks really promising. is it easy enough to get into or will i have to autism out and scour reddit and read guides etc is my main question

>>163819378

Not really. They're working for the whole audience rather than DCS'ing it up

>>163819030
>Amazon Prime account to be able to play on a decent server

That makes no sense at all.

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>>163819378

>>163819378
Just wait like 6 months and check back.

>>163819653
cool thanks. guess i will

>>163819569
I completely agree. Which is why I expressed dismay at the anon who initially suggested it.

Are you guys fucking mentally deficient or have you just meme'd and trolled so hard you can't see the forest for the trees?

>>163820196
Yes.

I'm pretty sure no one here actually believes that having Amazon© Prime® or signing up with your Twitch™ account will do ANYTHING. No one is actually going to take it seriously until stuff like this >>163818293 happens, and for the moment, you should just be trying to parody it.

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>mfw Amazon buys CIG for less than $M100

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>>163820646
Well, if we are gonna go that route.

>>163821012
How much is it with my Prime® discount?

>>163821204
999.99$

>>163820983
that's a cute girl

Got a question... new to the game, although been following for a while. Thought my system would handle it, but bought it with the Christmas sale and found my processor wasn't actually a quad core and it didn't. Have now rectified that...

However, it plays like a dog. Single-digit frames... 1 per second seems to be about right for what I'm seeing. Googling shows people with similar setups to mine getting around 40fps. What the hell am I doing wrong? What do I need to set?

AMD A10-7860K radeon r7 CPU
16gb ram
Radeon R9 270X

Not completely hardware literate but I think I tick all the boxes for better than minimum specs? But I could almost draw the frames faster than the PC does.

>>163820646
>>163820983
Welp, time to fap.

Anything new/good along these lines?

>>163821545
Do other games seem to work well? You're not accidentally using the onboard GPU instead of the 270 are you?

>>163821545
Which game? SC or ED?

>>163791391
>where's this image from?

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/7349216/#Comment_7349216

>>163821012
>Not Spice Superiority

>>163821656
Yeah, everything else seems to run fine. I've had some problems since the install of the new CPU with random bluescreens/restarts, but they're like... hours and hours apart. Can't figure what's causing them at the moment apart possibly from high idling on the cores (I'm generally doing nothing more strenuous than reading facebook when it happens).

Unsure how to check what the game is using... I've thought it might be using the onboard graphics but can't find a setting.

>>163821706
Star Citizen.

>>163798584
The players are too busy playing the game.

Is there an NPC at the security post where I get rid of my wanted level or is it just always some random person there killing people trying to get rid of their wanted level?

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>>>163788632
>Spoken like a true Dad-gamer. I want as much freedom as possible. Play the market, organize fleets and do other shit like that. What do you have against fun?
You are indeed speaking like a true Dad. With no idea of what is fun.
Elite Dangerous turned into the boring it is now from Dad's insistence to remove anything that threaten their illusion of a free universe, like scripted mission or market balanced to make trading fun rather than realistically boring.

You will play the market, but the Kessel run can only be lucrative if one Org isn't enough to kill the profit.
You will organize fleets, you'll just have to learn humility against bigger fish than you, no toppling the UEE.
You will blockade or pirates, but for that you need the devs to make it profitable, and give a you Pirate Havens.

Dads are like little child on the matter, they want their cake but not to pay for it.

>>163823314
You met someone who was probably trying to defend the place on a contract. Congrats. Destroy them.

>>163822712
Only suggestion I have then is to be careful comparing frame rates of the persistent universe to AC / SM. PU framerates will be terrible due to the size of the instance + network code. I've heard framerates in AC and SM are both fine though.

>>163802047
> acting like LTI isn't pure pay2grindless bullshit
They literally had to nerf it to death with other insurances, LTI is not ethical and the only reason they keep at it is because the word "Lifetime" sell jpeg like crazy even if they nerf it to oblivion.

>>163802051
To me Ben sound like the best game dev you can have.
It's thank to people like him that you have nice things, and it's when there isn't people like him that a forum become too toxic for anyone to play.
I do wish to bring a girlfriend in SC and not hear her tell me about hate-group badmouthing her if she dare be better than a man.

>>163802302
> Ben was also quoted saying he has no problem with the concept of selling hacks to players who would pay for it. I'm sure someone on here has the screenshot somewhere.
That however, sound pretty pretty bad. Need source

>>163824195
Is there an actual fps counter in the game? Wasn't able to find anything, I was just counting the slideshow I was playing.

As well, it was the PU portion, so kind of annoying. I wanted to buy a bigger ship... I might be better off designing my own game up for that though ;)

And I've seen mention on google of SC picking up the integrated graphics instead of the video card, but I can't find any way to see how the game has set that up. For nvidia apparently you can set that through the console app/program, but I've got no idea how to check with radeon.

>think of exploration
>imagine Prometheus
>know we're going to get E:D
Why is life so unfair

All I want is to plan a long adventure into the dark reaches of space needing to take supplies as well as a diverse crew of scientist, medical and military personal to tackle the unknown.

>>163826553
Star Trek: The Game.

Seriously. I'd love to make this. Boldly Going Where No Man Has Gone Before (usually green alien babes, but the occasional mobile doona).

>>163826796
>You will never explore an ancient temple with archeologists attempting to decipher an alien language when you suddenly get attacked by temple guards
>You will never investigate what happened to a facility and have one of your scientists become the Thing and start trying to kill you off one by one
>You will never discover a new rare resource and try to harvest it while being attacked by native aliens
>You will never lead a month long expedition to discover all the secrets of a planet

>What you will get is a quest giver with a giant yellow ! telling you to go to location XYZ to scan object J and 20,000 credits for doing so

>>163825978
Try PrintScreen and ~ while ingame, that might show FPS

Or just use an overlay program (FRAPS, Steam, AMD's new program thingo I forget the name of)

>>163825978
No built-in fps counter yes this is stupid as shit

>>163825978
>Is there an actual fps counter in the game?
You dont need it, your fps is somewhere between shit and unplayable

unless you have a 1080, in which case enjoy max settings

>>163827085
I am not that good at programming, but this is one of my eventual goals. To have a game where, yes, you might be given orders to go investigate stuff, but also where you'd have latitude as Captain to go and do stuff exactly like that.

Some of that would be easy enough. I've also considered the player being able to select other careers on the ship, so you're not just playing as the Captain, but maybe you're the Engineer, or the Scientist, or the Janitor/Chef?

But I'd want to include conversations and stuff, that would absolutely kill any forward momentum I had.

>>163826553
>>163826796
>>163827085
I think the perfect exploration would basically be the first several season of SG-1 with a landing site instead of a stargate.

>>163827283
Its too big of a game for someone to make, you need a large team and a big budget to actually make it worthwhile, and while SC has that it doesn't have the focus on exploration that it needs.

Plus it really should be doing exploration anyway, it should stick to what its going to be good at which is combat. Shit like mining/exploration shouldnt even be in SC.

>>163827085
If you look at the last Procedural Planet demo that's exactly what Star Citizen is gearing toward.

Unlike some he don't consider laser-guided objectives and scripted sequences to be unfun.

>>163827448
>If you look at the last Procedural Planet demo that's exactly what Star Citizen is gearing toward.
If by gearing towards you mean heavily scripted linear WoW tier quests sure.

The fact it was solo was also a pretty bad sign, exploration should be a group task without exception, solo exploration shouldnt simply not be a thing.

>>163827441
I know. But I can dream ;)

I'd seriously be happy if I could get the multicrewed starship working.