scg/edg/ Star-eyed Citizens of Elite and Dangerous worlds General

>>163634173
Thats not the same as E:D/NMS though. There was no comb over.

Doing proc gen for the broad strokes and fine details by hand is entirely different

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Non-shitty Vanguard when?

besides performance, what are people's complaints with the vanguard? I dont really see any major differences between in game and concept art besides the front intakes.

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>>163634737
>I dont really see any major differences between in game and concept art
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhiaGAnOalA
The whole thing is different. Instead of a ship with its own character it's just a fat whale that consists entirely of Retaliator parts with a Sabre cockpit strapped to it.
>inb4 'manufacturer assets should be reused'
Yes, but not to the degree that a ship has no unique parts.

Plus, once people realized that it can't really kill bigger ships due to a lack of meaningful weapons and it can't kill smaller ships because it's slow as fuck and has a giant hitbox they somehow started defending it with "b-but it has long range", apparently without realizing that it will have to fight whatever short-range fighters your target has with it. But then again, that's performance. But also design, somewhat.

>>163635115
>that front profile
fugg
what happened
desu though, if they made it dual s3 on the top turret, once turrets are fixed I could see it having more viability, and the inlaid gun buff someone mentioned a few threads ago made it sound a bit more threatening.

6th for goon counter failing horribly with 2.6 release, will have gotten bored of star citizen in a month or two.

>>163635484
>the inlaid gun buff someone mentioned a few threads ago made it sound a bit more threatening.
The thing is, using a gimbaled S4 on the nose mount is stupid because the quad S2s are fixed and there's no S5 that has a projectile speed that allows you to have unified pips. Unless they adjust either some S5 gun or the nose guns to allow that you're kinda fucked. And even then there would only be that single viable loadout.

>>163634173

I don't understand why bring this up. We're talking about space sims, not elder scrolls.

>>163636035

>I dont understand why you would bring up the process of creating large worlds to play on within a discussion about creating large worlds to play on

Anon please. ED and NMS developers were completely incompetent and just used YOU CAN EXPLORE THE UNIVERSE as a way to sucker in idiots.

100-something worlds that are procedurally generated and then touched up by designers and artists is infinitely more manageable than shitting out millions of randomly generated clusterfucks.

>>163636035
>not elder scrolls.
this

and elderscrolls is pure generic garbage

>>163636984

Holy shit did this general get overrun by teenagers in the last 24 hours?

Do you guys have some kind of mental retardation that makes you incapable of understanding that game design is a process applicable to many games and not just one specific series?

Neck yourselves.

I have 140 hours into my latest X3:TC run, and cumulatively have around 600. Can anyone give me some advice and tell me if Elite: Dangerous is worth the 20 bucks it's going for on Steam?

I have avoided pretty much all the news about this game, all I know is that it has spaceships in it, and that it supports vr (not that I own such a device)

Some reviews on Steam say it lacks content and the missions suck (kinda like X3), but they also say they've managed to occupy themselves for 800 hours.

Should I not bother with it? If I should, is the DLC worth it and/or necessary, like CiV? Also, it says it can play as an MMO, how's that work?
I'll appreciate any info you guys can give me.

>>163638065
>Avoided all the news

Stop right now. Watch gameplay videos, read steam reviews, especially negative ones that are reasonable.

>>163638065
>>163638228
Oh also, the game is not an MMO. You can go single player mode at the touch of a button. They may as well have removed any player interaction, because what is there is mediocre. The people that have occupied themselves for 800 hours are either people like me who wanted to get a specific ship and it literally took that long to get it, or the autists who can tolerate flying in a straight line for 12 hours a day.

>>163636698
>100-something worlds that are procedurally generated and then touched up by designers and artists is infinitely more fun than shitting out millions of randomly generated clusterfucks.
ftfy

So... when are they seeing fit as a good time to mention their sudden, completely non-officially announced affiliation with amazon's lumberyard engine?

2.6 clearly isnt running on it, and hopefully 3.0 is, with all of amazons near infinite server hosting - but i mean they didnt see fit to mention this to anyone in some kind of video? it's kind of an important game dev topic when you move your project of 3 years over to another compatible engine

>>163638447
They've already announced it you dip. And they've already integrated it. 2.6 is running on it. Why do you think one of the splash screens says in big letters "Lumberyard"?

>>163634474
For people who don't understand just how shitty a bastardization of a concept design they made the Vanguard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhiaGAnOalA

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>>163638447
They probably kept it a secret until it was finished in order to keep people from thinking they're massively jumping the shark and that they were going through some sort of internal meltdown. If they'd announced this switch before it was finished, there likely would have been tons of hysteria within the community and detractors would have gone wild. Either way, the "story" has already been picked up and sensationalized by clickbait sites ("BREAKING: STAR CITIZEN MASSIVE ENGINE CHANGE 4 YEARS IN") so maybe their strategy already backfired.

I'm not saying it was a good thing they kept it a secret and I'm certainly not trying to be a CIG apologist but that's just my thinking behind their logic.

Plus it wasn't even a massive change in the first place.

>>163638447

You do realize they've been trading tech with other CryEngine forks for years right?

>>163639273
i know it's not a massive change but the fact that almost nobody cared about the sudden lumberyard logo on their launcher confused me. i already knew it was a positive thing that will make 3.0 a reality.

I expected alot more rumblings about what it means for the game, and at least some kind of word from chris roberts regarding the transition and what it means for potential MASSIVE network related improvements to the game

it seems like something they'd be eager to showcase and build hype for ahead of time

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>>163639772
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>>163639772

>it seems like something they'd be eager to showcase and build hype for ahead of time

Not when the media that covers videogames are desperate to make clickbait trash screeching STAR CITIZEN HAS CHANGED ENGINES HAHA LOOK WE TOLD YOU SO.

Gaming media is extremely hostile to SC because it doesn't pay for ads and it's not affiliated with major game publishers. The fact it even exists and might succeed is a threat to the game industry at large.

>>163638647
God they really shit on the concept

>>163639772
>it seems like something they'd be eager to showcase and build hype for ahead of time

I speculate like their whole talks about having potential for "1000 player instances" in that special RTV WAS in regards to AWS but at that point maybe they were still finalizing a deal with Amazon or even still in the process of porting over to Lumberyard.

>>163640154
THE ESCAPIST WAS RIGHT. APOLOGIZE!

>>163640037
thanks i somehow missed this letter.

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In hindsight I shouldn't have sold my F7A kit. I got $70 for it, but I really like the look of it.

>>163640037
Meh, this is Roberts basically saying that they couldn't figure out how to reasonably turn their version of cryengine into what he wanted within his timeframe but someone else did it for him.

It's not necessarily bad and could ultimately be a good move, but in the end it's starting to look like a bad case of DukeNukem forever syndrome, where they jumped engines every time a new one came out.

>>163643831
Duke Nukem was developed like the town bike.

Haven't played ED for ages, it used to be fun for a bit then got extremely samey and felt like there was nothing to work towards or do. Has this changed?

>>163643953
It's a story that can be easily repeated with the creative types like Roberts in charge. At least the change is within the "same family". I'd only have reason to worry if he suddenly switched to Unreal engine or Unity.

Can I fly my carrack yet?

Can I get in and out of my ship in EVA yet?

>>163646047
yes
yes

>>163646235
Uh that's a no yes

>>163647045
>>163646235
i've been rused

there's still no lean in FPS?

>>163647945
No, which is odd because it's listed in keybinds

>>163647945
q and e

avenger cockpit is still retarded

why did I pay more for this gay penguin spaceship

>>163648170
Penguin fetish I hope, that's the only acceptable reason for buying an Avenger

FPS needs a stamina bar desu

>>163648435
Actually, since that one anon brought up leaning, I wonder if that will drastically change the way the game is played

>>163648435
it also needs some way of seeing grenades and medkits

After watching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdCFTF8j7yI

It's pretty evident this is just Arma 3 in space.
Why not save the time and just play Arma?

>Same quests
>Same looting system
>Same wobbly animations in 3rd person
>Same first person animations incl combat gameplay
>Wast areas with nothing
>Waypoint simulator
>Same flying system
>Same driving system
>Same mount system
>Same squad system (possibly)

Unless there's actual a common enemy, a la Reapers from Mass Effect, to keep you occupied there won't be much to do.

Hell, my friends will prob just develop some network based cheat and unlock everything within 1 week after release and then quit. That's how Arma 3 servers die, people hoard stuff after long quests/missions and then quit as there's nothing much to do with it except do some social raiding.

Has Roberts actually commented on the end goal or did he just say "Build your empire!"

>>163648676
You already said it.

>a common enemy

I think the Tev in Squadron 42, the single player campaign, and the Vanduul + Pirates will be the main factions you will contend with. They'll probably add in missions that involve different groups and they'll randomly become the enemies/ Allies as the story dictates.

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Also, please note that Star Citizen seems perfect for Star Fox Assault type campaigns.

It's easy enough to make some CG scenes involving some Aliumz/ Monsters attacking a planet, tasking players with gathering resources for the fight because the UEE can't, thhen fighting for some objective.

A simple, repeatable campaign would consist of:

1. Fight in space ship toward planet
2. Fight in ship on planet
3. Maybe some vehicle/train fight
4. On foot battle
5. Repeat in reverse order.

It seems possible that you could have a mission that ends with you inside an open Caterpillar launching rockets at the Space Bug Queen.

>>163649692

isn't that game for furries tho

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I was hoping something in 2.6 would fix this, but it didn't. Anyone have experience with this?

>>163649980
Yes, I had that issue. It just went away after some time.

>>163648676
>>163649692
>autism

>>163650129
>inhabits a dead general for years
>calls others autists
k

>>163648676
I don't get why people bitch about arma 3 so much. The FPS controls are great. It has leaning and headlook. Can't say that about SC so far.

of course you have to find a server group to play actual missions on

>>163651286
Not bitching about Arma but considering how Arma has no goal and is primarily a milsim for military tutors, Star citizen should not follow the same path for gods sake.

Unless there's some BIG threat and goal, don't expect much of the playerbase staying.

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Any fix for the game refusing to launch?
It has the splash screen with the new image (with Lumberyard) then crashes.
Is this a common thing at the moment?

>>163651423
it's an MMO buddy. There's going to be procedural missions and pirates and bad dudes to kill forever. Plus world events and player guilds.

I wish the combat were more like arma desu. Star Marine feels more casual than halo with a huge radar and giant icons whenever someone is on your screen. I didn't like the ez mode quest markers in the demo either

>>163651423
>being a nigger
why do you keep cominh to these threads?
kys

>>163651423
>Unless there's some BIG threat and goal

Are you purposely ignoring >>163649320?

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got a rift yesterday
i can finally live out my dream of being a cute girl in a space ship
the female pilot has big boobs btw lads

Class 3 Multi-cannons are so sexy.

>>163652313
bind freelook to alt
same effect, no shit rift and empty wallet

>>163652348
Hello, Erectile: Dysfunction refugee!

>>163652404
freelook doesn't let you look down as far
the rift is nice anyway, its not something i'm going to use constantly but elite with a rift is slightly less mediocre

>>163652348
>not railguns
richard gatling is calling from 1861 and he wants his technology back

@163651947
keep samefagging
loving every (You)

>>163652629
retard detected

>>163652060
>WE WUZ PIRATES N SHIET
How original, ArmA 3 dummy tier.

>>163652313
damn that's kinda cool. I've looked at boobs in VR but never been a big boobed girl before

@163652662
keep crying nigger

>Arma 3 dummy tier

Oh just a shitposter. Kek, I took you seriously for a moment.

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>>163648624
Grenades just need to not be black/grey. It doesn't need an indicator, just make them orange or yellow or something so they stand out a bit from the environment.

Also Star Marine needs a "Free FPS" mode like Free Flight in Arena Commander that lets you jump into the level and fuck around...

does your movement affect the grenade trajectory at all?

the animation feels really slow or I can't see it properly

@163652856
keep crying bitch nigger

>>163652629
>fails to accomplish anything in life
>makes retarded assumptions
>blurts out "samefagger" to everyone explaining rationally why he has to kill himself.

oh boy

@163653261
you wanna fight?

That's what I thought, don't come back pussy

>>163653001
The grenade trajectory is beholden to space wizardry and nothing else, I can never anticipate where my grenade will land from one throw to the next. I'm surprised it hasn't ever just gone straight up my ass

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So what's the verdict on HOTAS for Star Citizen?

I'm considering putting a little money towards one, but my concern is gimbal weapons. A stick would obviously be better for maneuvering, but is there any device which gives me the same precision for accurate gimbal shooting as a mouse does?

>>163653001
the net code fucks up grenade throws sometimes and it comes out late. Also i think have wounded arms gimps you ability to throw.

>>163654142
>falling for the space steering wheel meme

just use mouse and keyboard, don't get tricked into buying extraneous peripherals

>>163654749
this desu familia

>>163654142
>>163654749
i really wish they'd add war thunder's mouse aim so i can be a true crutch ace

>>163655394
If you're not doing well with the current mouse aiming you need to actually play the fucking game instead of shoving the mouse up your asshole and squeezing to turn.

So aimbots already in SM eh?

I like seeing people able to effortlessly bypass the 6 second TTK with near instant kills. I also enjoy the 20 FPS on a 4690 and Fury

>>163655873
>So aimbots already in SM eh?

Maybe you just suck?

>>163655770
>actually undocking
lol fag, I bet you fly an unpolished aurora

>>163656164
>5 seconds of constant fire hitting only their upper chest doesnt kill them
>but this random retard can effortlessly kill everyone in the server in just 2 seconds tops

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>>163654142
Yeah, they can be fun but when you evidently have to get out of the cockpit they just get in the way and complicate things.

I spent ~150 on a hotas, it was uncomfortable to use on the desk. So I spent ~250 on a new chair and mounting hardware so I could attach them to the chair at wrist level.
It works great but now when they are attached to the chair I cant skoot the chair far enough forward to use my mouse and keyboard comfortably. So my option are; keep a shit tier game pad in my lap for first person, take the hotas off and on every time I go between ship and first person, or just leave then off and fly with the mouse, which is what I do most of the time.
So now I am considering more hardware so I can attach desk like wing surfaces to the chair and spend more money on another mouse and one of those things in the pic all attached to the god damn hotas chair.
It sucks but I am already in too deep, its only a mater of time until I take the next plunge. So yeah don't do what I did.

>>163656329
>>5 seconds of constant fire hitting only their upper chest doesnt kill them

Like I said. Maybe you just suck.

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>idiots are already complaining about leet haxxors 360noscoping them

Wow, it's almost like this is a real game.

>>163656456
>>163656568
I normally dont miss as long as my FPS doesnt decide to tank into the mid teens.

But i refuse to believe 3 days playing at max of 30 FPS was enough for someone to develop near aimbot levels of legit skill

>>163656828
>max of 30 FPS
I've been sitting at 50-70, what are you fucking on about mate? Sounds like you're just a salty dad who's shit at FPS games :/

>>163656828
>max of 30 FPS

Wot?

>>163657290
>>163656918
Well 30 FPS is apparently all a 4690k a Fury Nitro and 16 GB of 2133mhz ram is good for in SM.

>>163657473
T O A S T E R
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>>163657473
>AyyMD
ahhhhh

>>163657751
>>163657732
>that amd meme about their GPUs being unusable

2008 was 9 years ago. Please don't tell me you lit your last braincells on fire with your 1070s

>>163657473
970, 4770k, 16GB and I get 70 fps. Maybe get rid of that adware caused by all your gay porn torrenting?

>>163658420
this desu
8350+290, struggles to drop below 30

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> Making space game
> After years Arena Commander is still shit
> Release first version of FPS
> Its better than the spaceships.

anyone got a link to atv/rtv where they discuss lods

>>163658701
>being a DSnigger
>comparing 100m to 1,5 km long space ships with fps mode
>assuming AC is shit because nigger
>nigger

>>163652585
>railguns
>class 3

>>163639273
>>163640154

It's still fucking CryEngine anyway.

It there anyway to turn off the bloom and oppressive muzzle flash?

>>163652409
Chasing that V I S I O N

>>163652585
>Railguns
>for small ships
Why? MCs tear through literally anything and have way more ammo. Plus my aim isn't that good because I constantly over-correct and second guess myself, so 2 gimballed Class 3 MCs work better on a Python.

>>163658131
It's more alive than ever before
>hype up the RX 480
>can't even beat its own predecessor

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For the nigger retard in the last thread thinking the transition was so hard

>>163639273

You should see the something awful main thread, it's hilarious how many goons are illiterate and assumed they were starting the migration, or how it was a 'bad' thing.

>>163651423

>milsim for military tutors

do people actually believe this?

> Have not played the game since Crusader initially came out
> Loaded up today, played some star marine, neat.
> Loaded Crusader and spawned Caterpillar.
> Exploring it and someone else boards and starts flying.
> Just sitting in the front section with the cargo doors open as he flies around.

Shit dudes that is pretty neat.

>>163662486

I really hope that CIG goes into detail on this.

No way an entire code base merges that easily with the changes they had done.

Also Lumberyard doesn't really change much with netcode, it just integrates with AWS services better which is great for hosting but not the magic bullet that some retards seem to insist was used.

>>163661553
>480 doesnt beat 380
you wot?

>>163662705
If anything this is just proof that goons will tear anything to shreds before even understanding what they're tearing to shreds in the first place. It's worse than the sourceless liberal fake news causing social media shitstorms but at least these guys are contained in their shitty echo chambers.

I guarantee you that when 3.0 comes out, they'll find the few inevitable flaws and shortcomings to rip apart without acknowledging the rest of the patch CIG will have released.

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UPDATE: CR new comment on Lumberyard switch

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/364217

>>163662879
>Load up Crusader to test out my Avenger Titan
>End up doing the cartographer mission
>beat pirates and move in to scan the light
>There's another player in EVA just sitting there with no other ship nearby
>He begs for a ride back to port
>Says his Catepillar bugged out and made love to the asteroid
>Have him climb in the back and take him home
>He spawns a new Caterpillar and we do a few patrols together
Shit that will never happen in Elite

>>163664705
B-but at least Elite is an actually RELEASED game!!1

haha, t-take that, Shitizen VISION INTENSIFIES

>>163663026
What is there to even go into?

They ran a DIFF on LumberYard, Star Engine, and CryEngine, and integrated the appropriate bits of code into Star Engine from LumberYard.

Worked out any bugs that may have appeared, and ran with it. It probably didn't even take that long, but they don't release every little change as soon as it's done.

You're right though, too many people don't understand that this change doesn't even involve the actual multiplayer network code, just server instancing really.

>>163664705
>Boy, this moldy glass of piss sure is better than that shit sandwich!

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>>163665840
Shit

>>163654142
I love using my ch throttle since it has a thumbstick for throttle + strafe up/down/left/right. And plenty of buttons for targeting.

fyi There's a branded elite dangerous throttle that has one too and also one coming out for star citizen but I haven't tried either one

the joystick part is more immersive I guess but not really necessary. Mouse is fine for aiming and flying in SC but it's nice to have a twist for roll

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>>163635115
>parts interchangability is bad!
>removing wanton wasteless visual fucking clusterfuck is bad!

am I interpreting this right? that's what they're complaining about?

everything about star citizen and it's community is giving me aneurysms holy fuck I need to just stop

>>163667747
They'd probably shit their pants if you turned them loose a car lot too.

>>163667747
Still trying to justify that Vanguard concept purchase, yeah?

Admit it, Anon. You got jewed.

>>163635115
>same weapon rack
oh no, how do CIG sleep at night?
fuck off

>>163667991
You got me wrong anon, I sold my LTE founder's pledge a long time ago when I realised how thoroughly shit the design team was going to remain

I find myself consistenly coming back to check the progress, in some vain hope that something good will stand out from the sea of wanna-be-like-every-other-generic-uninspired-western-scifi-since-star-wars garbage

>>163668396
>>163667747
I'm all for parts interchangeability if it doesn't threaten the sanctity of the concept too much. The (((Vanguard))) is quite frankly an abomination of what could have been a very sleek and sexy ship.

>>163664187
Goons ain't gonna bother reading it bro

>>163668690
>implying goons are literate
wew

>>163668202
>same weapon rack
Yeah, this one triggered me a little.
Do they really expect every weapon rack in the game to be unique? It's a fucking weapon rack for fuck's sake.

>>163668872
I think it's just to illustrate the point that pretty much nothing was made bespoke for the Vanguard. The real points would be the copy-pasted engines, body, fins, cockpit, etc--things that define the individuality of a ship are literally just lifted assets instead of new assets following a "style guide".

>>163669014
perhaps, and it certainly needs some reworking and balancing, seeing as it's not a very good ship to run, but I think getting too fixated on how many parts were used from other ships is a bit silly. The individuality of the ship isn't the parts, it's the sum of the parts, and the Vanguard is a pretty unique ship. You're not going to mistake it's silhouette with that of a Tali, Sabre, or any of the things it has parts from.

>>163669146
It's still ugly as fucking sin

>>163669014
Even the Sabre has a ton of original parts despite being supposedly fast-tracked by using existing assets. Who knows, maybe they'll make some changes to it when implementing the variants. But then again, the only CIG employee who's actually interacting with the community in ship feedback threads is the QA lead. Nobody else seems to care.

Is there an explanation of the new missiles/missile rack system?

Can the gladiator go balls out with a missile load out now?

>>163669282
Single missile requires a hardpoint of the same size, +1 hardpoint size or -1 missile size doubles the amount of missiles.

Also not really, since the wing hardpoints are the same as on a Gladius and the bay hardpoints can't be swapped for other racks.

>>163669282
A pylon mount has a size, It can carry a rack for

>one missiles its own size
>two missiles 1 size lower
>four missiles 2 sizes lower
>eight missiles 3 sizes lower

So the gladiator has 2 Size 6 mounts in the bay, equipped by default with(so far unswappable) a pair of S5 Dual mounts and 4x S3 mounts on the wings with defaults 2xS2 mounts on all four mounts.
However, each of those S3 mounts can also be equipped with 1xS3 or 4xS1 racks instead.

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>>163669427
>>163669501

>Also not really, since the wing hardpoints are the same as on a Gladius and the bay hardpoints can't be swapped for other racks.

Well that's disappointing.
Good to see they have finally implemented that rack thing though.

Have you used any of the new missiles? Some are 'proximity' so I assume it means they don't have to hit but rather juts get close (like missiles in real life)

>>163669501
>>163669427
I suspect they have no intention to let us customize the bay, considering that it still has the legacy rack in 2.6 and not one of the new 625 ones.

>>163669596
Whatever they are, the s3 ones on the gladius are real good at fucking ships up

Rocket pods in VD when

>>163669925
Probably never. The new missile hardpoint system doesn't really allow it unless they make an exception from the sizing and the only missile pods so gar (Delta) are technically guns that fire missiles as ammo, except they don't have to accelerate, and replacing guns with those is really not ideal.

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>>163669925
When indeed

>>163670358
Wish they'd do something about the turret. At least bump the guns to S2. Also no idea why it's so unreasonably slow in 2.6. It was...10 m/s (?) slower than tha Hornet in previous patches, now it's 120 m/s vs 150.

yeah I really want rocket pods too. Like actually shooting multiple at once

at least the gatling guns sort of act different from other guns now

>>163654142
Stick and keyboard is objectively better than HOTAS for SC. You can also still have the mouse attached to switch to for E.V.A.and on foot.

>>163663994
For a lot of goons you're right they are just selectively absorbing information. For the core agitators though its just spinning the truth to fabricate a rousing lie to spoonfeed the masses on SA. Sometimes they come into this general and every /v/ thread to do it, just to see how much more dissatisfaction can be stirred up for their agenda.

>>163670462
>at least the gatling guns sort of act different from other guns now
Gatling spinup time is one of the worst things in existence.

>>163670630
Not even sure where it comes from, either. Not like it exists in real life.

>>163670826
It's been used too often as a hollywood "shit is about to go down" moment like racking a shotgun.

>>163670113
I'd replace the turret guns with rocket pods desu.

Hi guys, thinking about buying Elite dangerous. Is mouse and keyboard or xbox controller ok to start? I don't have a joystick but I'm getting one soon anyways.
Also was there some kind of a sector/star system or something that was /edg/ "base/home". Excuse my shitty terms

>>163670461
It's fast enough on burner, which is how you should always be flying it, it's a bomber not a fighter. If you're getting into to short range turning gunfights as a gladiator you are doing it very very wrong.

I am in favor of some kind of buff to the turret, Imo like the retaliator they should consider giving the turret more hard points rather than upping the size of the hardpoints, 4x s1 would be a turret worth manning. Also I hope they add a turret mounted designator to lock and launch missiles from the wings, that would make carrying a shitload of S1s actually worth it.


Does anyone know why my mouse is going away when I launch SC this morning?

>>163670113
>>163671258
Make rockets into "size .5 or .25 unguided missiles, then let you carry a shitload of them. The Delta already does that, I think it has like 18 per pod. Though actually I think those are classified as guns. That distinction cant last though because unguided missiles with increased payload are going to be a thing.

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Saw this guy getting attacked by cultists earlier and wanted to add to the discussion.

I was in Star Marine several times over the last few days in an area with no other players, i.e. heading down some stairs after a 90 degree turn, and have been shot from somewhere through a wall, I looked down and my head on my HUD display was yellow, i.e. I'd been hit with a bullet to the head by an aimbot user.

It's not hard to spot cheaters when they have like 36-8 on the leaderboard every single round. Especially when you use these weapons yourself and your gun bounces everywhere with way too much recoil making it hard to aim and the stupidly long TTK.

Ever shot someone 8 times with a sniper rifle without them dying and then get killed in less than a second by them? I have.

Cryengine is notoriously bad for anti-cheat, and there is literally nothing stopping people from cheating in the alpha. They can't even fix basic animation bugs after 4 years so there's absolutely no way anti-cheat measures are anywhere close on the horizon. I'm surprised AA [Artificial Aiming, basically the biggest aimbot rental site online] doesn't have an aimbot for SC yet but there's probably not enough demand for it at the moment.

Inb4 "you are just shit". If you don't concede these arguments then you are a cultist plain and simple.

>>163671447
>vanishing mouse
sometimes happened in the PTU, clicking everywhere usually solved it

>>163671329
>/edg/ home system
it's called the bin

Am I the only one that likes 2.6's new flight model?

Far more skill-based than what came before it; you can tell that by all the whiny shits that cry about running out of AB every fight because they don't know how to do anything other than max SCM or max AB.

I'm probably retarded for asking this, but is there some way to bind an Xbone controller to simulate a basic dual stick setup? I'm fine having to press my keyboard for non-immediately essential controls (eg targeting, landing gear, etc).

Suggestions?

>>163671598
I like it but the rotation speed limits are way too low. It makes way more sense to oversteer when you have a big main engine

>>163671662
So far i'm thinking left stick Pitch/Yaw, Right stick strafe up/down/left/right, Left stick in for strafe forwards (right stick in for strafe back) and bumpers for rolling.

I'm not sure about what to do with the D-pad/XYAB yet though, thoughts?

>>163671839
on my old gamepad (an old ps3 one) I used the XYAB equivalent for things like flares, targeting (only the enemy by crosshairs), missiles and all that jazz

>>163671572
>Coming soon
>"Bullet Drop" correction when there isn't any

looks legit m8 I'd give it a download

>>163671590
It's not working, it flickers back for a split second and then is gone again.

I just wanted to drift through space in my caterpillars tractor control/stargazing room.

i wish they would stop braking the Delta every patch. I probably won't be able to play PU until 3.0.

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>>163671572
I can't believe there's a market for these sort of things.

It's so ridiculous to pay money to kill your own feeling of achievement that now I'll feel like winning even if a cheater kill me in loop.

>>163672840
Even if the alpha a mess, I bet SC will have very aggressive anti cheating polices. We might even see hardware bans.

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Ok so the one thing I don't get from all of this:
Why is Crytek allowing Amazon to commercially license a fork Cryengine under a different name?

I assume Amazon pays Crytek continually, but why wouldn't they instead introduce it as "Cryengine with advanced networking by amazon" or whatever?

Also the logo is terrible

>>163673628
Probably offered them total rights, rather than a renewed license. They're so poor they've basically shut down most of their company after all.

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but muh caterpillar!

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>>163673745
What about it?

>>163673698
Lumberyeard is over a year old. Also they shut down some small subsidiaries not "most of their company", no matter how you count it

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So how do you go about buying ships? I just got a starter package and really want a Sabre.

It seems like there is so many ships that are flight ready but not available? How do I see people with all these ships but are unavailable on the store?

>>163672840
>I can't believe there's a market for these sort of things.

You don't believe there's a market for selling 'Rocks to keep wild animals away' to other human beings?

>>163673965
>Lumberyeard is over a year old

They've been in financial trouble for over a year.

They weren't giving paychecks back in 2014

>>163674040
Most ships are not sold all the time.
Boxing day sale will start tomorrow and most will be available or purchase then.

If you don't want to pay real money you can buy ships in-game from the EA store with REC

>>163674040
They're only for sale at particular times, limited edition sales.

Rental is a better idea first though

Why is the Sabre faster than the Gladius?

Gladius used to be faster damnit, and the Gladius can't even equip half the shit a Sabre can.

I feel jewed.

>>163674161
sure, but it's still not really clear that licencing under a different name than Cryengine would give them more money, both short and long term.
Considering you think that they "shut down most of their company" you don't seem too knowledgeable about the buissnes side of things

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>>163674381
Far be it from me to know the inner workings of a deal between a giant like Amazon and financially starving Crytek, or that they've shut down most of their studios and divisions.

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>Pyrobursts insanely good on PS singleplayer, take out larger ships with ease if you can get up close and have them take the entire shot
>Don't work at all in multiplayer

>>163675604
Well, they do work but the hit detection is completely broken. I tried it with a friend in freeflight and if you shoot in front of your target it actually deals damage, despite none of the pellets hitting visually.

>>163674160
Good point, there's a market for testing first jpeg concept ship after all

>>163673628
my uneducated guess is that amazon took a shitload of cash in their hand and basically bought out the engine source with the ultimate goal to rake in cash through their aws services (tos make this aws exclusive)

why cryengine? devs are broke, its basically top 3 game engine everyone is curious about but choses unreal\unity most of the time. with added networking integration it offers advantages for certain gametypes that rely on global multiplayer support.

>>163677267
>testing first jpeg concept ship

Wat

>>163673628
Remember when Amazon gave Crytek 50-70 million last year?

Yeah.

>>163673628

Crytek are literally fucking broke, they are probably only kept operational by their deal with Amazon.

It sucks when a developer goes under, or worse, turns into a mobile/F2P shovelware house. I hope CIG can take advantage of this and expand the Frankfurt studio, and keep these talented developers making an interesting game.

>>163671981
>looks legit m8
Yeah the screenshot must be fake, commando o7

>>163678804
Never said it was.

Just I've only experienced "6 second TTK" from the front.

Shoot someone from the back and its near instant. Kill someone with the sniper rifle and its instant. Image honestly sounds like someone that needs to git gud

>>163655873
Fix your affinity bug. You probably have a core at 100% which is why you are getting shitty frames.

>>163679235
Is this a meme?

>>163679005
>shoot someone from the back
Yeah I guess if you had some feature to teleport behind someone. Nothing personnel, kid.

Player teleportation exists in top-tier aimbots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKNrd9vIXms

Telling someone to get good by killing people from behind is kind of silly, since you will never really be able to control this without cheating, or camping. You're not a shitter are you?

>>163679005
>Kill someone with the sniper rifle and its instant
I hit someone around 8 times with my sniper rifle, they didn't even shoot back at me, after the 3rd or 4th hit he just proned and I shot him about 5 more times, then he aimed at me and killed me in less than a second.

Other times using the sniper rifle it took at least 3 shots, and actually I don't remember killing anyone with it. I think I just get assist points.

The weapons, netcode and maps themselves are broken. The game is unplayable if you have any sort of competitive nature about you. But you can just play to laugh at the bugs if you are a chill person, I guess. But this game just frustrates me, my avatar just slides around with lag, and I get severe FPS drops arbitrarily, shot through walls, killed before I can shoot back at people and miss at point blank range with the shotgun, and then there's the shit feature where you can't see the text box to type in while in the spectator view for like 10 seconds after dying, and the stupidly long spawn times.

Basically it's very early WIP and if it doesn't get any better I don't have any hope of it ever being fun.

>>163657473
A F F I N I T Y
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>>163679269
He's shitposting in order to get someone who made a legit statement to be mad.

Next he'll probably try "works on my machine".

>>163679402
Samefag.

>>163679373
Why did you quote me twice?

Extra triggered?

>>163679507
No, it's easier to quote someone by highlighting text and clicking their post number.

Are you new or something? Go back to RSI or leddit.

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MUCH NEEDED DIVERSITY

>>163679235
>your affinity bug
>your bug
>fix YOUR bug
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>>163669596
Afaik, there are missiles that represent each combo of direct impact/proximity and heat/radar guidance. Rattler II is a stand out favorite of mine. Heat guidance and pretty nasty warhead (I think it's prox, but I'm not sure.)

>Lumberyard took a day to switch to
>All that shitposting and media shitflinging that spawned from it


WEW. Not to get political, but I can understand why president elect isn't happy with the media, and this is an example why

>>163670826
>>163671051
Here is a real mini gun. There is a tiny spin up, but nothing ridiculous like what we have 900 years in the future.

https://youtu.be/d84r8gMGxFQ?t=37s

>>163680271
Vehicle-mounted ones aren't that piddly. They have no spin up.

>>163679960
Rattles fire of "Venom" missiles.

They'e strike-type.

>>163674040
Rent, don't buy unless you are really, really sure. You can try everything out in single player free fly first to see what you like.

>>163662810
That's where Bohemia's profits come from.
They have government contracts, that's why ArmA 2 and 3 are heavily underoptimized since they get money from the government which runs on cloud hardware.

The real "Arma" has more functions, scenarios, weapons, vehicles, realistic functions.
What you see in Arma 2/3 is just some things cut from it and then balanced/streamlined for normal gameplay.

>>163666027
Oh, so it seems most people don't realize Lumberyard is actually Cryengine, just modified by Amazon.

>>163680532
>>163662810
I can back him up because I had some interest in this a year or so back. There is certainly a more fleshed out version of Arma that is meant to be for military training. I recall trying to find out how to download it, but no idea what my results were.

>>163677728
Worst part is how light years ahead CryEngine is however most of the tech can't be used unless you want your players to sit on 5-10 fps.

Watch any of the 2006-2017 tech show off videos, it has tons of functions that would blow your mind and if you were to woke up in a virtual reality setting, cryengine would be the engine running it.

Unfortunately devs avoid it as it alienates most of the consumers and unless you find a way to optimize the code, nothing can be expected.

The tech demo shown by roberts prob had some monster PC and it dipped to constant 50-60 FPS from 120, most players will prob play on low and have the game they waited for look like absolute shite and demotivate them from playing as without the added visuals the game will look like some bad prototype.

Star Marine medium armor looks awfully like Halo armor. Hopefully CIG don't get sued.

>>163681174
>The tech demo shown by roberts

Which one are you referring to

>>163679269
>>163679451
>>163679703
>Open Task Manager
>Performance tab, change graph to logical cores. Find core 2 at 100% http://imgur.com/1NnDDoX
>Details tab, find starcitizen.exe
>Right click, Set Affinity
>Clear and select the core at 100%
>Performance tab, core 2 no longer at 100% http://imgur.com/0iBI0ZC
>Massive performance increase
>Remove wet nappy.
>Install new nappy. Not too tight, don't want babby to be uncomfortable.

Seriously, this is old shit. Pay attention to your fucking computer. SC has been binding affinity to core 2 since 2.0. This works on AMD as well.

>>163681174
Someone I know bought a used 760 or 770 and was playing the game just fine.

>>163681232
Planet Prototype v2 or something

Is there any downside to the Super Hornet?

>RIO/WO/Passenger seat.
>Central module for turret, radar, cargo or stealth.
>Up to five gimballed S2 guns, or three fixed S3 plus an S4.
>Same missile capacity as Sabre.
>Best armour values in the game.
>Better shield than Sabre.
>Coolers >20% better than base Hornet.
>Same powerplant as Cutlass, 6x better than base Hornet.

This is seriously bullshit compared to every other fighter in the game. It looks fucking hideous, which is the main thing stopping me, but I'm pretty sure it will get a MK2 skin or just a general update.

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>>163681279
Super Hornet will be receiving and update just like the regular hornet has recently.

>>163681279
>Central module for turret, radar, cargo or stealth.
No such thing as a "stealth" module.

>Best armour values in the game.
Largely unimplemented, but its a tradeoff. Makes you 30% easier to track.

>Better shield than Sabre.
>Coolers >20% better than base Hornet.
>Same powerplant as Cutlass, 6x better than base Hornet.

Component sizes haven't been true for a while now, so direct comparison is impossible. the "Size 3 Powerplant" junk is going away with Item 2.0

But yes, its strong in a tight arena dogfighting game because thats its niche.

>>163680271
If the bullet cost 1$ I wonder how much he just spent firing it like that

>>163680353
Cutlass comes with 4 Rattler II and 4 Dominator II. I would much rather have 8 Rattler II. The Dominators are too easy to evade at the missile's max range.

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>>163680532
Funny question : Do they have government contract to make "Take on Mars" ?

>>163681746
Idk for real, but he is my favorite youtuber, by far. I just hope his family will upload the eventual video of him killing himself in some epic as fuck way.

So, will SC support AMD Vulkan?

>>163682152

IIRC they have commented that they are excited about it and will be supporting it eventually, but like VR it is very much an extension thing that will wait until much further down the line.

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Good to see our merge thread survived this long. The comfy we achieved from threads 2 - 45 may be a little out of reach, but I still think the merge was a success for ED leftovers and SC waiting groups. (Space, Rock and love edition was my fav). I'd say seeing this thread survive for this long without significant turmoil like the old SCG we all unanimously hated is a fairly decent gift from 4chan.

Sincerely,
OP from most of the first threads

Anyway, has their been any word on multiple sizes of rocket pods for ships yet? Missiles aren't as bad as they once were, but I feel more in control with rockets and would gladly replace all of the missiles on my Gladius to rockets.

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Little bit like Starfarer?

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>>163683249
What merge are you talking about? This is a self sufficient Star Citizen general with zero to none ED discussion.

Braben cucks can fuck off anytime.

>>163683249
What's ED?

Have they removed the ability to lock gimbals to static in the new keybinds? I can't find it

How do I control gimbal independent of steering?

>>163683932
ralt+j

>>163683665
Erectile dysfunction

>>163683932
You might have to rebind it, but it works for me

>>163684108
There's a keybind for it. I think the default now is Right Shift.

>>163685224
>>163685230
>ralt+j
>Possibly rebind

Cool, thanks

Will system requirements for SC likely go up or down upon release? I can run the hangar well, AC and SM barely and Crusader awfully with my current setup. I hope I don't have to dump a ton of money into new hardware to be able to play this game reasonably.

>>163681712
SPACE SUPERIORITY

>>163686074
Ignore crusader performance, it's limited by their netcode now.
AC and SM are what matter, and if you can't run those then you'll need to upgrade. Probably will go up in the future.

I can't believe my original shitpost about some shady SM player really did all that.

>>163686636
Jeez, if I go by recommended hardware instead of required hardware, this'll be an expensive upgrade. Yaaay.

>>163686074
If you can run Crysis 3 well then you'll probably be able to run SC well.

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>There are people IN THIS THREAD who didn't get the optimal ending/reward for the private investigator quest

>>163687842
I did the third time I did the quest

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What's the best weapon loadout for a Freelancer? Ideally all guns being the same and having high damage per shot (so ballistic I guess).

>>163683665
It's short for "Edward", Eddie may also be used.

>>163687234
Fuck the tree, I want tiny spaceships dogfighting in my living room.

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Merry Christmas, /scg/!

I'm sorry for calling you a cultist earlier.

You're still a cultist, though. Sorry.

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>>163689835
>weeaboo calling people cultists

The irony is lost upon you.

>>163690024
I like anime. I don't shill for it, attack people who don't like it, or take criticism of it as an insult against myself.

Anime enjoyers > cultists. Anyway, no need to argue about it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me, bro.

Can anyone tell me where half of the supposed 2.6 content is? Did they delay it to 3.0? Where is spectrum? Where is the new patcher? Why aren't there any new clothing items to buy?

Also it's pretty shitty of them to do a currency wipe.

>>163690238
>Where is spectrum?
https://ptu.cloudimperiumgames.com/spectrum/community/SC
Definitely we are all cultists and you are the single person still able to think clearly, o enlightened master.

>>163690238
>I don't shill for it, attack people who don't like it, or take criticism of it as an insult against myself.
>Anime enjoyers > cultists

you were doing so well, weeb

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>>163683249
Things changed when ED left us.
May he rip in heaven in piece..

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>>163690373
I don't trust that link. I guess until it gets moved to RSI.com I won't be using it.

Anyway, just don't take criticism of Star Citizen or CIG as a personal insult, it's something that you enjoy, it's NOT you or part of you. Separate the things you enjoy from yourself. You are allowed to enjoy things that other people don't like or that other people find sub-standard. You will mature as a person and find discussion and interaction with others more enjoyable.

Also filename meme, I just thought of it. What do you think?

>>163690238
>I like anime. I don't shill for it, attack people who don't like it, or take criticism of it as an insult against myself.

don't hang out much on /a/ do you?

>>163690752
>>Anyway, just don't take criticism of Star Citizen or CIG as a personal insult
But I don't. I think you're confused, 4chan is an internet community, not a single person. I just dislike people being proud of being misinformed, as it's clearly your case. You can dislike things, but if your reasons are entirely misguided and proven wrong with 10s of googling, you're wasting everybody's time.

>>163690752
>You are allowed to enjoy things that other people don't like or that other people find sub-standard.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Get out normie

>>163690752
I dislike anime because it's full of violence for pedophiles.

>>163691013
This.

Watching anime, especially its use in image macros is essentially a sure fire sign of being a pedophile.

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Merry Christmas, /scg/. I love you despite the shitposting. Reply to this post with a throwaway mail. First post ending in 0 will get a little present.

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To be honest I think they've made improvements to the PU but may have sacrificed visual fidelity for it. I can't see Star Marine being fun until they fix their netcode in 3.0 or later. Haven't tried Arena Commander yet but I killed some free fly player in the PU last night in an avenger and it took ages, the TTK is way too long. I was using panthers and bulldogs on my sabre. Still nothing worth going back to Arc Corp for, until they add new armors.

>>163690849
>don't hang out much on /a/ do you
No.

>>163690965
I score higher than average on the autism spectrum but I'm not autistic.

>>163691013
>violence for pedophiles
Tsundere is best dere.

>>163691381
Rolling once.

Thanks anon good luck to everyone.

[email protected]

>>163691381
Merry christmas. I'm getting signed up for all sorts of gay porn, aren't I?

until.the.end.of.the.universe AT gmail.com

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>>163691474
>I score higher than average on the autism spectrum but I'm not autistic

>>163691503
>>163691381
Forgot to mention. How fitting to use Yui and Yukino

>>163691474
>Haven't tried Arena Commander yet but I killed some free fly player in the PU last night in an avenger and it took ages, the TTK is way too long. I was using panthers and bulldogs on my sabre.


Then you're bad. TTK is fine, familio.

>>163691474
>hihg speed

Fucking redditards can't even meme properly.

Seriously, get out. Don't come back.

>>163691716
>>163691716
>TTK is fine
No it's not. Just blue impact effects on the guy's shield for like 30 seconds.

High TTK is like training wheels for scrubs.

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>>163681174
>light years ahead CryEngine is
>most of the tech can't be used unless you want your players to sit on 5-10 fps
Then it's not light years ahead retard. Anyone can put in overkill features ripped from movie CGI and make your engine look awesome on 4 Titan X.

Also, purely from a visual standpoint i think UE4 looks better since all the ligthing and shadows and stuff just comes together nicely. in CE it kinda looks like they've just been stacking effects on top of eachother ever since Crysis 1

>>163691906
I'm talking about physics and logistics though which is needed in real virtual reality.

Not some screenshot generator.

>>163691906
Mount Stupid : the post

>>163691381
roll
[email protected]

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>>163692118

>>163692080
Grats

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>>163692080
Congratulations, anon.

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>>163692118

>>163692248
>goonposting from a phone

I hope to god my life is never that empty.

>>163692118
Okay, read slowly if this is difficult for you :

A game engine is built up of several modular parts (game logic, networking, physics, rendering, input, audio, etc.)

Lumberyard is basically CryEngine with networking modules directly implementing AWS & Twitch stuff.

Star Citizen will use AWS but they have their own instance manager, not Lumberyard's Gamelift.

Read those statements until you understand it, I can rephrase in more basic English if you need.

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>>163691381
>>163692080
thx anon!!

I just realized, why is my pastebin no longer in the op for other space games?

>>163691879
Wow, yeah.

You really need to git gud.

>>163692402
wow nice

>>163692196
>>163692359
>>163692395
Sorry you got triggered.

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/812841293386829824

>>163692521
Your shitposts don't work on me, I know you're just being a cultist. 30 seconds of fire TTK is too long. Same as 5-6 seconds TTK in Star Marine.

>>163692001
How does that change anything m8? If it runs at 5-10 fps, then it's not light years ahead.

>>163692630
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>https://twitter.com/dsmart/
lol

>>163692630
30 seconds is fast as heck, hombre.

Don't think I've ever taken 5 seconds to kill someone in SM either. Sure you aren't just really bad?

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>>163692657
I'm glad you're in a good mood, Anon!

>It's Christmas and Goons still have nothing better to do than shitpost about SC

Sad!

>Goonposting intensifies

Sad really.

>>163692731
>Sure you aren't just really bad?

He is. It's this fella >>163671572

Maximum buttblasted and couldn't handle the bantz so he's going to call everyone a cultist and repost goon memes for like 3 weeks.

It's happened before and it'll happen again. Autism ya see.

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>>163692630
Avenger's shield has 900HP
Body has 1200HP

2 x Badger / 2 x Panther is 880/s

Essentially giving you a 3 second TTK, should you not be a shitter and actually hit things.

But lets say you have to take down his shield completely rather than one of his two faces, and your shots land all over his entire chassis.

That would be a ~7 second TTK.
i.e a "I've killed every single section of this ship (not just the one required to kill the ship) and demolished his shield TTK". Is 7 seconds.

>>163692974
I saw that earlier and got a kick out of

>I saw this other guy get attacked on 4chins so I'm going to jump in a defend him with an entire blog
>we're totally two different people

Orbiting Earth right now in ED and looking down upon it, wishing everyone a Merry Christmas

>>163693276
Sitting naked in a deskchair with a can of cider right now also wishing people a merry christmas

>>163693276
Too bad that game is shit, has always been shit, and will never NOT be shit.

>>163692643
THE TECHNOLOGY ISNT THERE YET LMAO QUANTUM COMPUTERS

>>163693462
That's pretty much a summary of the guy I'm talking to

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>>163692395
>A game engine is built up of several modular parts
Like Star Citizen is?

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>>163693452
Im glad we share the same thread

>>163694280
Star Citizen didn't invent modular programming. If you think large scale projects are made of a single file you compile, you don't know shit about programming.

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>>163694362
Did I claim to know anything about programming?

So let me get this straight. Years after splitting off from Crytek's build, CIG took 2 days max to merge all their existing 4 years of messy/junkyard/legacy code broken as fuck build on to Amazon's completely custom build based on the one that CIG has taken 4 years to get away from?

Something doesn't add up.

>>163694629
>>163666027

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Present for anyone using Corsair Strife RGB keyboardsAll 5 of you, will probably work with K70 also.
No super fancy effects, just grouped logically and multifunction keys highlight together with their modifier. Switch between profiles with right control when entering and exiting.

Both profiles included filedropper/starcitizen26profiles

>>163694629
>Something doesn't add up

Yeah, can't seem to add up the number of dicks that you're trying to shove in your mouth senpai

so why did my Constellation turn in to a Caterpillar?

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>>163694918
>This much autism

I like it

Sorry about the file drop in >>163694918

This one works https://dropfile.to/fqDSA75

>>163695189
Eh?

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>>163695283
T..Thank y..you.

>>163695468
nice thumbnail you have there

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>>163695468

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>>163695540
>>163695548
Fuck

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I got a good feeling about this, commando o7

>>163695698
You forgot the part where they announced the switch had been completed already, you can play it right now, they lost no fucking time at all.

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well i found my Constellation in the areoview hanger

>>163696358
2 days. Not bad. These guys can really code when they want to.

I don't know where this 3 month delay for 2.6 came from, and how they are going to release 3.0 within their promised 2-3 month time frame.

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>>163696576
>I don't know

You're absolutely correct

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>>163695468
save it correctly this time anon :^)

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>>163696393
Congratulations, you won Star Citizen.

>>163696712
Not an argument. Their engine is clearly a mess and 2.6 has game-breaking bugs. Moving their broken mess over to a different engine will probably male it even worse and cause even longer delays. 2.6 offers hardly any content from 2.5 and is just as broken.

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>mfw watching my S3 fuckyou missiles completely fuck over a hornet

boy the gladius is fun if only for that

missiles feel way too strong now though

>>163697637
>oving their broken mess over to a different engine will probably male it even worse and cause even longer delays.

It would have done, if thats what they were doing (and hadn't already done it)

>2.6 offers hardly any content from 2.5 and is just as broken.

k

>>163697637

Remember kids, anyone saying that Lumberyard is a different engine knows very little about SC and literally nothing about CryEngine.

is everyone else getting worse framerate in singleplayer AC? things generally look worse too

>>163697764
>missiles feel way too strong now though


They've been worse.

That patch where missiles were a 1HK every time and were unavoidable was a fun time.

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>>163692749
>still posting the outdated and wrong one

>>163698119

Missiles were never a OHK, but they never missed and you could lock as many as you had.

4x S2 missiles could kill anything in the game, and the Gladius could carry 8 of them. Good times. For the Gladius.

>>163692749
I like how you took their entire new FPS system that's a pillar of the gameplay on it's own, and just tacked it onto ship combat so you didn't have to give them another point.

Are we seeing the Idris in 3.0? I'm excited to see how the big ships go down in this game.

>>163698593
>Idris in 3.0
unlikely

>>163698783
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
;_;

>>163698593
We will see it after SQ42 launches