/domg/ - Dominions General

>>163339774
>Anime weebshit trash
Why are you such a fucking faggot?

>>163340029
I can't help it, plz no bully

>>163340029
OP's crime isn't posting anime but rather posting anime with bad art
I would have liked to see Vampy

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>>163340187
Here, have a vamp

>>163340187
>>163340129
fags

Someone want to trade?
I want to buy items.
DWARVES I'M LOOKING AT YOU

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>>163340826
n-no homo

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>>163339774
Heard you boys like graphs. Here is some from the rats.

>>163339774
nth for weebs should die

>>163341249
But what about everyone else?

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>>163341249
>>163341303
I dont have everyone elses

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>>163341292
pls no bully

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>>163341351

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>>163341437
And the last one.

>>163341386
eat shit and die tbqh faggot

what are the standard gameplay mods?
are there any mods that improve SP?

As EA tien chi what should I be striving for in the research department? Is heavenly rivers worth it?

>>163342493
Probably conj 1 first if you wanna git spooky. Otherwise thaum 1 for fear. Those are your fearst battle spells.

After that you can do more conj, ench for flaming arrows, some buffs in alt, the depends meme is strong with TC.

River Demons are rad with a big bless. Not garbage without it, but less impressive than, say, the green lions or water elementals that you get later in the game.

I was pretty spooked there for a second until I saw that half those attacks were from lone scouts.

>>163342224
Lately on /domg/, summod + worthy heroes. Sometimes BetterArena is thrown in to make arena rewards better.

Not really. There's a mod (AI No Rec) that makes it so AI doesn't recruit indies and particularly garbage national units so their armies will be less random trash, but I don't believe any make the AI better or any such thing. I've seen some people also suggest making indie strength 0 so the AI can expand more easily (and you should be expanding easily anyways).

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>>163342719
tfw you see someone suicide their scout network

>>163342703
TC? Are those ancestors things stronk? They seem really shitty

>>163342928
they're 1 hp ethereal things, but they're sacred. Their usefulness depends entirely on your bless. S9 = 2 hits to kill them. F9 = they can actually do damage. N9 or D9 = some sort of hp pool. This sort of thing makes them effective tar pits for holding up the enemy army.

>>163343157
Ah, so W9 woudn't be that usefull for them right?

>>163344213

Not particularly, although it will make them a bit harder to hit, so it'll improve their tarpityness a bit.

I've run S9W9 to some success with them before.

If anyone's around, can you give me a hand trying to reproduce bugs on blitzserver?

>>163343157
B9 it up. I found out recently that B9 has absolutely nothing to do with the damage dealt, so 9hp evosoaking sacks of shit are as good as 1hp when it comes to BV.

do your turns

>>163345042
Make me.

>>163342224
Magic Enhanced is pretty good.

>>163340826
>>163341292
>>163341751
>unironically using "nth for ___" like it's fucking d2g or some other shithole
>being so mad at japanese cartoons
Just saying, western cartoons haven't been relevant or good for years

>>163345328
Nobody cares about cartoon relevance. More precisely, nobody cares about what you think it's relevant.

>>163342719
So Ermor is going full invasion on your ass right now? Just to be sure of what the fuck is happening

>>163344713

You entirely sure about that? I know it's got nothing to do with the amount of HP lost. Having nothing to do with damage dealt seems odd though. If it were just some small amount of AN, it wouldn't shut down evospam like it does.

>>163345403
He attacked 5 provinces but 3 of them were with scouts.

>>163345328
kys weeb faggot

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>>163345374
Evidently you and that other guy care enough to post about it here

>>163341351
Rats only have three forts?

>>163346559
Seems that way. Probably spending all their cash on grey seers whose price got raised to 800.

Just a warning to everyone turns are back to 24 hours. If you want an extension for Christmas now is the time to ask for it.

>>163344531

Fire one at me, i'll try to reproduce it if I don't fall asleep first.

Send your 2hus

Any streamer/youtuber worth watching for this game? Considering picking it up for a myself and a couple of friends.

>>163350951
>watching how other people play a game with 30-minute turns
Maerlande had an AAR on youtube, I think, and it's pretty okay

>>163351051
Thanks. I'll check it out.

>>163350951
itsmu,Nuclearmonkee and Colonial are bretty good.

>>163350951
Sy has some videos out now on a game played here. I think they're pretty okay.

do turns

>playing MP

>not playing CoE4 and learning ALL the spells

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>>163356431

DING

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>right click on a unit
>it's a long ass lore text almost as bad as deviant art fan fic
why

>>163360421
Real world mythology is that bad, yeah. Fag.

>>163360421
What unit are you thinking of?

Drain scale only ever offers +1 MR, right? So going 3 drain doesn't give units +3 MR?

>>163360615
The small dicked, naked, man eating Babylonian giants

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>>163345602
You seem rather buttblasted, friend. Tell me, where is all this hostility toward Mongolian cooking enthusiasts on a Mongolian cooking forum coming from?

Hey guys. I'm going to be able to do this upcoming turn for Lucky13 before I leave, but I might not be able to do the subsequent turns within a day as I will be travelling. I will have internet and should have time to do my turns daily while vacationing, so I shouldn't need any extensions after this coming turn.

>>163362602
Should be subsequent turn* as in singular.

Depending on how long I spend waiting at the airport, it might be a nonissue entirely, but if I can't get the time to do my turn, then I also won't be able to ask for an extension, so I figure I should let y'all know now.

>>163362602
Where are you travelling exactly?

Asking for a friend.

>>163362863
Jokes on you, I've already got a skeleton inside of me.

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All the sprites are finally done. The pretenders both have two forms and the arisen are wearing roughly what my own Arisen wore when I played the game.

>>163361341
Well, in that case you can blame the authors of Book of Enoch

Can you give a character identical item boosters (assuming they can hold two of those items) in order to get +2 in a path?

>>163363294
no

>>163363294
no

>>163363294
Bonuses from same items generally don't stack, but there are a few exceptions like 2 water bottles summoning 2 water elementals, or 3 spirit helmet casting 3 lightning bolts per turn.

>when you forget to script some mages out in the open and suffer pointless losses

Can we not have weebshit as OP image? It's supposed to represent the game, not your shitty hobby.

>>163364219
=)

>>163365070
bring back the politicans

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>>163365070
This is a weeb imageboard, feel free to leave if you don't like it.

>>163362602
I'll switch it to 48 hour hosting for the holidays.
normies reee etc.

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>>163365070

>>163367243
No plz. He just needs one day and the game just started. Don't do this to us

>>163365070
R'lyeh is relevant to the game, Der Gotter proved that. And so did Stalewarriors

>>163367413
Don't forget KingOfBullies!

>>163367243
In that case I will be going AI. This is simply unacceptable and badminning.

>>163367823
Where are you so I can take your cap?

>>163367974
I'm putting 100 PD in all of my provinces first.

>>163368014
In that case I'll be going AI as well. Thanks badmin, you just lost a customer.

Admin guide when?

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Am I doing the scales right?

>>163369765
Yes thats perfect.

>>163369765
The scales are fine, but the magic paths are bad. (but you know this)

>>163366786
Do we have weeb politicians we can use?

I'm pretty sure Trump is a waifufag, at least.

>>163370003
https://vndb.org/v2622

>>163370003
Sorry, Trump is not a Democrat and therefore disqualified.

>>163369904
What magic paths would you recommend actually? I'm fairly new so I read in the forums and the wiki and saw fire and astral as top priority

>>163369765
I'd take dom 4 or 5 and change the magic to blood or air for diversity

>>163370313
S1 is generally about as much as you need desu. More is just overkill.

>>163370313
Your national magi already have astral and fire. Blood items are good and being able to break into blood is useful for late game.
Air gives a good minor bless for Flamen or if you put Shrouds on your Augur Elders and allows you to craft air boosters.

>>163370313
>fire top priority
Remember that man's name and never take his advice again.

In general if you take a rainbow chassis, you want it to be able to do stuff to extend your national path access.

Ermor has widespread access to astral, but it's relatively shallow and they lack the E/S crosspath, which is needed for crystal gear. Crystal Matrices are mandatory for putting your non-astral mages into communions. Ermor can use E2S2+ for crystal coins and shields. E2 also provides boots and subsequently hammers.

You native get only one point in water, earth, air, and nature on your national mages. This means that you can search for a wide variety paths, even if you lack deep access. Air is the hardest to build up from, and you don't have plentiful A2 mages, so I wouldn't bother with the A boosters (A4 required) unless you wanted to get staffs of elemental mastery which which are expensive. Nature is nice to boost if you have astral already, since N2+ opens up two boosters, letting you get up to n4 and then arbitrarily high with ivy kings to treelords.

Personally, the only paths I consider essential on your pretender are E/S because of the aforementioned crystal gear and, later, golems for magic phase moving thugs. If you want to take other paths, first decide which spells you want to cast or the items you want to forge, then use the magic booster guide to figure out the minimum paths needed to effectively boost to that level.

>>163370403
Don't mislead noobs plz.
S1 makes you vulnerable to Magic Duel. 2 or 3 is safer.

Asked this last thread but I don't think anyone replied
Is Fires From Afar worth anything? Or waste of gems?

>>163370937
>2 or 3 is safer.
A little bit safer. If you want magic duel immunity, you need S7

>>163371380
Are you casting it twice on a small raiding party comprised of non-stealthy mages? Then it's good. Are you casting it on an army where it will injure 10 wolves? Waste of gems.

>>163363117
WOLOLOLOLOLOLO

>>163371490
Sorry, take off the non-stealthy thing. Fires hits stealthy units.

>>163371490
I'm not sure what you mean, should I only use it when there are only valuable targets to hit in a province? So if I just shoot it on some army it's wasted because it will probably hit some worthless unit?

>>163371684
Yeah. It hits a fairly small number of units and doesn't necessarily even kill human sized units if they've got enough armor.

>>163371734
Maaan, fuck it then. I like the idea of the spell because it's cool but 10 gems is way too much for what it does

>>163371490
Going for total immunity is overkill, there will always be vulnerabilities. S2 is a lot better than S1 as it tips the scales in your favor vs scrubby S1 magi.

>>163372447
>>163371490
Also keep in mind, Magic Duel casters preferentially target lower S levels to begin with. If you have an S2 in with a bunch of S1s, the S2 isn't even going to be targeted until at least some of the S1s are already dead.

>>163372539
No it doesn't. This was the common belief, but it was tested and two S1s targeted an S10 debug sensei when there were S1s on the field

Is Adept Crossbreeder trait worth anything? I didn't even try crossbreeding yet but it sounds cool

>>163372693
Crossbreeding is trash and Adept Crossbreeder doesn't really help much.

>>163361306
Drain offers 0.5 MR per scale, rounded down.

So 0MR at drain 1, 1 MR at drain 2 and 3.

If it was possible to reach drain 4, it'd give 2 MR.

>>163368670
The PBEM guide in the OP has a short section on how to admin games

>>163373098
It's good for turning blood slaves into siegepower

>>163373098
I got Enhanced Magic, will that make it better? Or maybe some other mod for the spell specifically?

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Am I missing out on something If I don't research magic at all? I just make armies and shit.

>>163374057
A little, yeah.

>>163374057
Did you check how many spells there are in the game? You're missing that
I guess it would also put you at a disadvantage against anyone even AI

>>163373896
Until you get Horde from Hell, at least.

>>163374174
Improved X-breeding is still way better

>>163374057
Join a MP game and see where it will take you.

>>163374232
Probably in terms of raw siege strength, I haven't actually seen the numbers for that spell. But range 4, 3 flying mm squads have a ton of extra utility.

Should maybe still give Improved Crossbreeding a shot sometime.

>>163374552
>>163374135
The most I've ever done was summon some devils, never played online and I don't plan on embarrassing myself.

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Is there any reason to use an awoken pretender? It seems that early game you don't have the research to utilize his magic and the pretender is just like any other spell caster.

Am I missing something or do I just need to git gud?

>>163375168
You use awake pretenders to smash through indies so you can grab more land. This leads to more gold early on, which can create further advantages. They can then be useful later on depending on what chassis you have, serving as ways to easily cast globals or other things.

Is there a command to make a monster automatically cast a spell every turn or would it be simpler to make an item that does it and force them to have it?

>>163375168
Use a monster like a snake to take provinces

>>163375168
What's the meaning behind that meme?

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>>163339774
So how exactly do I play this dominos shit

>>163375168
Awake pretender that can easily kill indies gives you faster expansion, and there are some pretenders that can even rush a capital. Ever tried an awake E9 Devourer of Souls for C'tis? Try it sometime. The look on opponent's awake erf snek's face will be priceless.

>>163375302
shift + m = cast monthly ritual.
Unless you mean in combat then you gotta script the monster to do that.

>>163375462
You need an Illwinter™ gold account first.

What's the deal with the influx of noobs at holidays? Is the game on sale or something? Not that it's a bad thing.

Are spybombing people a legitimate strategy, or one that will ultimately not work?

>>163375805

You answered your own question. Combined with people having more time to play and they pick up that one weird game they bought last summer sale.

>>163375851
What do you mean by spybombing? Mass spies to increase unrest? That will work, and can be a pain in the ass early-mid-game if you're fighting on two fronts.

>>163367823
This, unironically. You're a huge faggot, admin.

>>163367243
FUCK

OFF

It's like turn 5, leave it at 24h.

>>163376464
>>163367823
Yeah I'm not in the game but it was started near the holidays. Some people have more free time, some less. Shouldn't punish those with more for the sake of those with less. Not like more games won't be played later.

>>163375168
That innocent looking frog is more sinister than you might think, in fact it has recently been acknowledged as a HATE symbol.
t. Hinnom Ministry of Public Information

>>163375750
That's just to unlock the tier 3 nations and a few spells. Technically not needed per say, but at only $7.99 a month why wouldn't you?

>11 mammoths beat 90 of my abysian humanbred infanstries
How the fuck is this fair in any way

>>163376563
Ill send out a strawpoll

>>163377051
that's what you get for being abysia

>>163377051
don't worry mammoths quickly become obsolete

>>163377051
Sounds fair to me. Mammoths and elephants are especially good against infantry in heavy armor.

It was 1320 gold of mammoths vs 1260 gold of humanbred, so they had more gold than you too.

>First Gate appears in one of my province right next to cap
What do? Open or not open?

>>163377445
Open it and stick your girldick inside

>>163377220
In what way?

>>163377250
From a game balance point of view I guess but from a "is this nigga real" point of view it's ridiculous

>>163374057
fuck's sake the armet is the only bit that's well done on that piece
>unarticulated gauntlets
>single piece cuirass
>ungodly hybrid pauldron/spaulders
>no gorget, just mail
>mail is the wrong grain
>what the fuck are his vambraces
>what the fuck are his couters
>why the fuck does he have an arming sword with a two handed grip, unless the perspective is fucking me and that's meant to be a longsword

>>163377747
They are easily countered with lots of different magic due to low mr and too expensive.
Really good expanders though

>>163375302
if you meant modding, yes, there is, it is in the manual

Is the Debugger dead? Been noticing all desura links being dead.

>>163350951
Check reddit. That's where you tubers announce shit.

>>163377893
I aint seeing it. I just made an item instead.

>>163367823
>>163368474
>New Turn File: Lucky_13
HOLY SHIT HE ACTUALLY WENT AI THE SALTY FAGGOT. ADMIN CAN YOU DO A ROLLBACK AND SUB HIM PLEASE?

>>163378256
r u sure

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>>163378256
No he didn't, you blind fuck.

>>163378392
Made you look ;3

>>163371490

Seven makes you immune to S1 spam. Certain nations do have massable S2. But yeah, much less of a concern.

Is there really no petrification but area petrification? That blows.

Mictlan, Jotunheim, Helheim.

If you want to join, please at least say something here.

I can change to a larger map if you want in, but I'm just going to remove your pretenders if you keep submitting them without saying anything.

>not extending the turn from 24th until 26th
Well, in that case I'll be chainstaling.

>>163376659
>it was started near the holidays
Yeah, after recruiting for like two weeks.

>>163379368
Sorry, Mictlan here.

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RELEASE WHEN
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2927&st=255&#last

>>163379878
Very funny.

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>>163380331
>mfw I see people with good sprite art

>>163381071
I always forget I saved it so small.

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If these turns come in quick enough, I might start our break on Turn 31 instead of whenever.

No pressure though.

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>tfw no fluffy cloud godlike power possessing gf

>>163383743
She's ethereal. You'd need an enchanted dick to fuck her.

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Evening everyone, here is the Yuri image for turn 5 of Pure Skill

>>163383928
That just makes her MORE PURE and unable to get pregnant

>>163384076
Makes you wonder why the previous pantokrator didn't fuck elemental royalty. He did fuck 90% of female pretender chassis after all.

>>163383940
Thank you.

>>163383940
nice

>>163383940
Yes I sent your bloodlaves this turn.

>>163384076
could you use queens of elemental water and air as blood slaves?

>>163383940
Nice. Mind if I use this as the thread OP next time?

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>>163375805
Not to forget the recent genius masterstroke of using the mascot character of some other game in the OP, bringing dozens of new people in for a visit.

>>163384478
yes. dozens.

>>163384386
They aint got no blood senpai.

>>163377142
What's wrong with Abysia?
>tfw humanbreds canonically fuck(ed?) like rabbits
>tfw no red skinned gf to keep you warm just by being near her

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>>163384552

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>>163384404
I have no objections

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>>163384478
Well diplo'd /domg/

>>163384404
I'm okay with this only under the condition that you edit the image to show a nature boosted Tlahuelpuchi summoning Huli Jing or Kitsunes

>>163383940
Do cat and mouse next (or cat's adorable singing outfit)

>looking for nekoyama
>find arabic subtitles
Confirmed for hallal yuri

>>163381993
I really, really hate to be the bearer of bad news but my backup computer is showing some worrying signs. I'm doing troubleshooting/quick fix stuff right now but it's possible I might need an early extension. I'll let you know if it goes bad

>>163384152
Becoming the pantokrator sounds pretty boring. No wonder 'chief' gods like Zeus did nothing but fuck weird shit all day, when you are able to do anything effortlessly everything must become so boring and pointless. Besides you have no rivals or friends too, only ants that either serve you or hate you.
I'd rather just be a powerful mage really

>>163387251
At least you dont have to worry about some nigger on the other side of the world casting astral corruption when you are the pantokrator.

>>163384691
Red skin is ugly desu

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>>163387251
>become a powerful mage
>become immortal
>"...being immortal, there is nothing left to acquire but godhood."

Does ethereal and invulnerable stack?

>>163387663
Of course.

Why did you think they wouldn't?

>>163387505
t. blueskin
I'm not saying it's the best for anything, but red skin is top sexy, also because red is the color of passion.

>>163387663
Yes, but both of them are mediocre forms of defence.

>>163387786
I just wanted to make sure. Prot and invaluable doesnt stack does it? something odd like that.

>>163345403
He wiped one of my chaff armies from Nazca's cap with an unprovoked surprise attack, so I attacked a few of his provinces as compensation.
Turns out indie scouts don't beat 1 PD :(

I'd really rather not do full invasion right now as I am really behind on research and mage recruitment, but gotta keep my options open when I'm bordering the kind of guy who will sit an army on your border for ten turns, then attack the turn after you storm the fort and lose to get the quick win. Dangerously pro moves for a noob game!

>>163387886
They stack for non-magical attacks, but protection>20 doesn't stack linearly. Read the manual.

>>163387914
>1 PD
Try 5 Jack Skellington. And while I was waiting for you to wear down the fort I was mostly waiting for the rest of my army to catch up. There were only like 15 guys there until 3 or 4 turns ago.

>>163388132
Unless you raised it that very turn, it was 1 according to the scout report (unless those lie about PD)

>>163387660
Immortality is also really dumb on multiple levels
In general, because nothing is meant to last forever except maybe some forces of the universe, certainly not men. Second, because you essentially say "my ego and lust for power are so massive, i will leave behind humanity, friends, emotions and my body just to become as powerful as I can".

>>163388235
They can be pretty unreliable. Spies show you the actual PD level.

>>163385194
you will have to wait till next turn
>>163385342
http://dynasty-scans.com/series/inugami_san_and_nekoyama_san

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>>163388303
>my ego and lust for power are so massive, i will leave behind humanity, friends, emotions and my body just to become as powerful as I can
>dumb
Christians shouldn't play pagan videogames, you know.

>>163388303
>caring about pleb tier things like your humanity, friends, emotions and your body

>>163388303
When you are the Pankoman you can just make your friends all immortal as well.

>>163388303
>i will leave behind humanity, friends, emotions and my body just to become as powerful as I can".
Sign me up.

>>163388303
>Immortality is also really dumb
Spotted a puny blood slave.

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>>163388303
>men are not meant to last forever
>become something completely else and live forever with a completely different kind of sense of perception
Your points kind of counter-act each other
Do you even ascend?

>>163388235
Even if there was only 1 PD do you really think a shitty scout could take out an Abysian Warlord?

>>163387914
Honestly I fear the squids will come out and rek everyone. I don't know the point of view of you guys but they seem to have been silent and left unchecked since the start.

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>attacking your enemy when he is at his weakest, the most basic strategy
>real pro move guys!
Not even abysia

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>>163388303
All spooks tbqh f@m

>>163388235
if you see along the lines of "a guy and a few henchmen" that's anywhere from 1-5 PD. 6pd is when you get "organized group"

>>163388647
Usually it's the simplest things that lead to victory

>>163388431
>>163388456
>>163388532
>>163388576
S T O P NO UNDEADS OR DEMON LOVERS ARE ALLOWED HERE, ONLY MEN OF FAITH AND JUSTICE

>>163388614
But it doesn't matter how strong or big or alien you are. Eventually you WILL lose to entropy. Even the Pantokrator at some point fucks off for reasons unknow. Nothing lasts forever

>>163388303
That's some nice high-school level philosophy there, friendo.

Just because you don't have the will to power, doesn't mean that it is wrong.

>>163388969
>Nothing lasts forever
Citation needed.

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>>163388670
Which nation would saint Max play?

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>>163388969
יְהִי אוֹר, the short incantation for reversing entropy as told by Isaac Asimov.

Does anyone know where the command to make things lifeless is? Is it #inanimate or is that just for statues and stuff?

>>163389057
Tell me of ONE thing you know for sure will last forever

>>163388989
It's not wrong if it only affects you and you alone but things like Lichdom are fucked up and you become a monster. Your choice but don't be surprised someone will go inquisition on your ass some day

>>163389353
black holes and taxes

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>>163389073
All right, Stirnerbro. I feel camaraderie with you because I want my point of view to be supported by other persons in this social context.

>>163389219
Never mind it is.

>>163389353
You're using a ton of words to say nothing

'Monster' is a meaningless label. Morality is a spook.

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>>163388670
>>163389073
>>163389215

>>163387886
Invulnerability acts as basic protection when you're not hit with a magical attack.

Basic protection will stack with armor, though it has decreasing returns (e.g. 20 basic protection plus 20 armor protection gives an overall protection of only 30, whereas 5 basic protection and 5 armor protection gives an overall protection of 10)

So invulnerability will stack with protection from armor, but not with basic protection.

>>163388043
>protection>20 doesn't stack linearly
It's occurs at all protection values, it just gets most noticeable when you have high protection.

>>163389353
>Tell me of ONE thing you know for sure will last forever
The astral void ;^)

The fact that I can't prove that something lasts forever because of my finite perception doesn't mean that nothing lasts forever, so you invalidate your own argument. Perhaps the creature that lasts forever (like pantokrator) would name a few things. Like hangovers or something.

>>163388640
Squids has attacked me for the past two turns. There are still indie provinces around him but he's trying for my 0 pop 0 income lands, I have no idea what he's thinking.

>>163388758
Thanks, learned something.

>>163389057
Well, think about it. The only way to verify whether something indeed does last forever is to monitor it forever. Good luck with that. And at no point in your observation can you say with total certainty that it'll last forever, because there's always the off chance something unforeseen will happen regardless of what you think you know.

>>163389704
probable wants your D gems, free D1 site is pretty useful espically when you can only gives them 1 PD max

>>163389518
Oh you're the Maxfag huh
whatever you say buddy. I hope your philosophy does you a whole lot of good

>>163389554
What the h*ck does "is a spook" even mean? Is that the joke?

>>163389839
>doesn't know the basics of spooks

please read up on your steiners

>>163389839
>Implying I'm going to spoonfeed a spook

>>163389839
Just, like, google the wikipedia article or something

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>>163389839
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-the-ego-and-his-own

Enjoy.

>>163390086
>>163390173
Oh so he was the original edgelord. Truly a meme given flesh

>>163389779
You're just thinking in terms of 20-ish century pre-school philosophy. If we accept the logic of Dom4 world, there ARE creatures with different perceptions of time, and even existing outside of time itself like Horrors and some gods with blink/teleport.

Even on 21st century Earth your argument is wrong. First of all, the fact that out pereption and measurement devices are flawed doesn't necessarily mean that NOTHING lasts forever. You just proved that it's impossible to verify, so we're talking about epistemological side of the story, not ontological. The objective fact of something lasting/not lasting forever has nothing to do with our silly human thoughts about it. If we can't know it for sure, then any claim about something existing/not existing is pointless (which it is). I only asked about proofs of your own claim ("nothing lasts forever"), which you instantly invalidated on epistemological grounds.

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>>163390360

>>163389779
define forever. Reminder "time" is a human invention and not a worthy measurement of deciding what lasts "forever"

>>163389812
I believe a lot of Stirner's philosophy has merit but wouldn't actually recommend anybody use it as a basis for their own development.

But in this case, it's absolutely applicable and correct.

>>163390625
Is this the sort of thing grown men philosophers really discuss? This is "am I a butterfly dreaming I'm a man" tier nonsense

>>163390859
>grown men philosophers
Good thing there are only 20-something undergrad middle-class white boys in this thread. Otherwise it would've been pretty embarassing.

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>>163390859
>men
>philosophy
WHAT IS A MAN?

WHAT IS A RIVER

>>163390859
you are like a baby, Time isn't even a philosophers, even basic quantum physics stuff laughs at the concept of time being a solid measurable variable. Not even a major student in any of these fields just someone with pass reference.

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>>163390678
So there are cases where morality is a spook and some where it's not?

>>163391096
When morality works for your advantage, yes.

>>163389353
Monster is a pretty subjective concept. Look at humanity for instance, cunning beings driven by hunger and greed, we raise weaker beings to be slaughtered and eaten, we subjugate each other for personal gain, and we delusionally self justify all of our actions.
A vampire or lich is just the next step up in the food chain.

>>163391048
I have two degrees in physics. Time is real. Your "pass reference" is a spook.

>>163391274
And the lich doesn't even need to eat. Cheackmate, fucking hippies.

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>>163391281

>>163391281
I have 37 degrees in freemasonry. You are completely right, cattle-being.

SO, where did the Pantokrator go? After beating Dominions for the first time I witnessed the ending in which my god goes someplace to fuck off (Which I guess is what the previous Pantokrator did) . Am I supposed to be this confused or am I just a fucking idiot?

I have infinite degrees in turnbullying, so you should do your fucking turns instead of embarassing yourself.

>>163391660
it's fucking nothing

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>>163391660
Some of the unit desripctions and the earlier games in the series offer rather discomforting interpretations.

>>163374057

Am I missing out on something if I don't use my back row at all? I just use the pawns and shit.

>>163392158
Remember that white gets to move first for 30 turns and enslaves every unit it captures.

>>163391660
Dominions has a "time is cyclical" motif. The ending ties into the two events you get on Turn 1.

>>163391660

Where do you think Doom Horrors come from?

>>163388390
Oh, I know it's in English. I was just surprised that it got an arabic translation too.

>>163390360

Maxie is just the obvious conclusion to moral/ethical relativism. He doesn't have shit on 'Normies get out' Schopenhauer.

>>163393003
What ARE Doom Horrors? I didn't meet them in the games I played.

>>163385387
Well, I either got it fixed or it's going to fail horribly when I least expect it.

>>163393003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzPpWInAiOg

Sorry gents, but I'm going to need an additional 12 hours before I can get to a computer with Dom4 on it.

>>163388303
>meant
fukken dropped

>Load all of your past turns, mods, and maps onto a flash drive from my desktop
>Almost 2 gigs, better let it run while I pack
>Leave that motherfucker in the computer when I leave

S-surely all the turns I've submitted are fine, right?

>>163393850
At the very least, you still have all the emails.

Right?

>>163393903
Yeah, but I can't look at the turns that I submitted before heading out, so I either have to trust that EVERYTHING IS OKAY or redo them from scratch.

>>163393983
Ah well yes, they're totally fine.

No need to worry about those two provinces you forgot to put PD in.

Is there a table for the spell effects for modding? The manual only tells you to add values together to get new effects but it doesnt tell you what the values are.

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>>163385387
>>163393461
Let's hope it holds until Santa brings you some new parts.

>thread talks about time and other bullshit
>read the last 10 points
>vividly remember I had a dream 2 months ago where we were talking about these exact things
>even having the same steam conversation

The wheel must turn

>>163394369
fug

well, who wants to talk about pretender design?

>>163395028
It's a game for autists. There's regular fantasy novel discussion, philosophical bunk, and occasionally drunk mathematicians

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>>163393530
Gurantedu

>>163395224
>>163395224
WHAT THE FUCK

DELETE THIS

THIS IS A BLUE BOARD

It's just a magic trick anon, her thumb is fine

>>163395224
Keep that guro shit on /d/

>>163344213
W9 N9 might be pretty effective

>>163396117
How do I get two 9 paths? Pankoman's toilet seat as a pretender with no scales?

>>163396283
W9N9 is pretty economical for some nations. It isn't for TC, unfortunately, but an oracle makes W9S9 pretty effective.

>>163393983

Not have a Sent box with the 2hs?

>>163396691
Sent them from a local e-mail client, so I can't get them from the browser.

>>163393454

You should find out about them on your own, I think. Ideally during an Astral Corruption cast.

>>163393454
They're kawaii. Toppest tier Dominions waifus

>>163384478
I'll be honest, if it has a cute anime girl and isn't a mobile game I'm getting in that thread.

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>>163397684
I won't lie, I've opened Fighting Games General so many times because it has a hot anime broad for the OP 99 times in 100, and I haven't played a fighting game over a decade.

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>>163393454
These guys

>>163398171
This. I do it too.

Fighting game general lewdest general by far.

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>>163391660
My personal theory is that he essentially becomes another dimension's heat/magic source. You know how magic sites still give gems despite how fucked the world can get? That's all dead/ascended Pantokrators from other dimensions. The ascension wars are all a massive collaboration on part of the Horrors to ensure that grief and suffering still exists.

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>>163398520
Agon is pretty smalltime if you can pinpoint his components.

>>163394443
http://www.moddb.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/effects-and-their-attributes

>>163388303
Some people (heathens and atheists mostly) are just real scared of death.

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Is trying to loot this a good idea?
can I get fucked trying?

>>163389839
It's from a poor translation of Max Stirner shit. Basically means it doesn't exist, with the implication that the illusion of it induces you to improper action.

>>163406450
whats the worst that could happen?
Do it faggot

>>163406450
Don't send anything important in there, but a cheap indie commander can occasionally find useful stuff (and not die on the way back)

>>163406450
Witch Hunters best warband. Undead/Skaven are also pretty cool but Sisters suck dick.

What's a good faction for me to play in EA? I like to play Marignon MA and decided I Should probably experiment outside of that.

>>163373507
So go Drain2 or don't go drain at all?

If I'm going for the MR.

>>163407713
Nifelheim is fun, so is Tir Na Nog if you like elves

>>163408017
>Elves
Nifelheim it is.

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>>163407158
>Reddit Rats are also pretty cool

>>163389353
DEATH AND TAXES BABY

>>163407713
Vanheim is probably the easiest

Vanheres with a good bless are blenders
Everything but Serf Warriors and Fey Boars have Glamour so the 1st damaging hit against their usually hefty Protection/Defence skill misses
I'm just guessing here but I believe sneaking units with Glamour dont count towards # of units sneaking penalty
Fay Boars are expensive as hell but immortal

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>>163398520
>mfw I'm immortal and have a small legion of liches and vampires
Astrally corrupt me all you want, bitches. I don't give a fuck.
Why is Rarku so kawaii? Look at his big googly-eyes sticking out. He's just a goofy motherfucker stuck with a bunch of edgelords.

>>163398520
If you kill a specific doom horror, will it stay dead?

>>163407763
If the only thing you care about is the MR, yes.

Drain really isn't worth taking just for an extra MR (in your dominion only). The research penalty is a big deal, even if your researchers have high RP.

>>163410258
Generally drain should be reserved for quadbless meme builds and nations with researchers that ignore drain

>>163411637
Unless you or someone has a specific timing window for research benchmarks, I don't think research lead is as critical to victory as people claim.

>I need +3 to get enchant level 3 by year 4 so I can transition into-

>>163408659
t. tumblr birds

>>163411637
I agree, though nations which have high-RP researchers could probably get away with taking drain for a better bless or to let them have better income scales.

>>163411716
I think you're seriously underestimating research.

There are a lot of amazing spells at high research values, and getting those spells gives a large benefit over other nations.

Often just having better spells to cast can decide a battle.

>>163412149
>amazing spells at high research
Should be trying to win before it gets to that point, anon.

I feel like if people are reaching lvl5 in w/e, it better be a 9+ person game or some halfway diplo rp game.

Having that much upkeep chilling in forts for extended periods of time is silly. They could be casting shit on battlefields instead. So learn whatever you can to deal with the threats at hand, and let late game happen when it happens. Hopefully having more material to work with than your possibly higher research opponent can contend with.

That's just my view of strategy anyway. 5 provinces is better than 2 provinces and lvl5 enchantment. Not withstanding some very very specific national rituals.

>nazca (south west)
>ermor (centrally located and mostly surrounded by seas)
>mari (eastland butting against sceleria to the north and nazca to the southwest)
>sceleria (north)

Fairly balanced 'dangers of undeath' game? Would one one clearly dominate everyone else strategy aside? I like the feeling of a themed game.

>nazca venerate the dead
>sceleria command the dead
>emor are the dead
>mari rejects the dead

How come some character actions require them to have gems while other actions require the gems to be in the large pool?

>>163413071
If it's cast in battle, it requires them to be holding the material.

If it's cast in ritual, they need access to the treasury.

>>163412349
Most nations are literally worthless pre lv-5 research, and I'd argue it's literally impossible to win a game without reaching at least 5 in one school, outside of very small blitzes (even then, the winner of every blitz larger than 1v1 has ALWAYS hit at least one 5).

For PBEMs, I've only ever been in one where the winner (me) didn't have at least a single 7 (I instead had 6s in most things). And that was only a 6 player game.

Especially considering that it isn't too difficult to hit level 5 enchantment early year 2 . . . I'm assuming you haven't actually won a game against people who match favorably to the AIs.

>>163412349
My argument would be, again, that you're underestimating the effects of research.

There are a lot of higher-research strategies which can beat many, many times their cost in lower-research enemies.

SCs are the most apparent example (will beat a near infinite number of enemy troops until you research a counter), but spells like Rain of Stones, Firestorm, Fog Warriors, Army of Gold, Foul Vapors and such can allow an army to beat enemies which are many times more numerous than them.

Rain of Stones instantly kills most enemy mage support (and troops, if they're not armored enough). Fire storm kills everything without fire resist and armor, often quickly. Fog Warriors and/or Army of Gold make your troops nearly impossible to hurt, often letting them take dozens of hits each before being brought down.

There are counters to most of these, but those counters require high research (often higher than the spell you want to counter). If you don't have the research to use the counter, you basically need to avoid large fights, which lets your opponent take your land basically unopposed.

Another reason why you don't always want to deploy every mage is because sometimes they're not all needed. 50 skellyspammers has the same effect 100 has - either they get countered and lose or they drown the enemy in undead and win.

I think the strongest piece of evidence against your view is that games just don't happen like that. People just don't get to one research goal and then stop researching to move all their mages into the field.

If you think that's bad play, you're welcome to join games and stomp us with your innovative strategy.

>>163413121
>If it's cast in battle, it requires them to be holding the material.
Unless it's blood magic, then the slaves just need to be nearby.

>>163413810
>blood magic
They're allocated like gems. Though it's like a shared pool for all blood mages in the battle, I think.

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>>163412717
pls respond

>>163412717
Mechanically, Mari's the odd duck out, but summod helps with that a lot. Between its buffs and Ermor's nerfs they might even be balanced

>>163415861
>odd duck
Isn't Mari all about smiting the undead since they're a reformed ermor?

>>163416169
They smite all kinds of things. Ermor's high on their list, but if you're not whatever their not-catholic thing is, they're gonna smite you too

>>163416220
Oh. I got the impression from their flavor that Undeath was their primary go-fuck-yourself sin.

>>163413121
Blood sacrifices (to spread dominion) require the one doing the sacrifices to personally have the blood slaves though

>>163416308
Didn't know that. Never played mictlan.

>>163413768
>I'm assuming you haven't actually won a game against people who match favorably to the AIs.
Nice rejakoring, Nick.

>>163417875
To be fair, that dude's example was Ench 3 by Year 4 which is in the "something has gone horribly wrong" range of research benchmarks

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Vanheim OP pls nerf

>>163418426
>40 best EA sacreds against literal thrash
What did you expect?

>>163416269
I don't believe that's wrong considering they got national spells that are only good against undead.

Is there any good alternative to vine shield in summod?

Why can't shillwinter nerf this shit, or at least buff some other shields? It's boring that 90% of builds will look the same, and those 10% are for very specific countering purposes.

Game started, you should get your turns soon.

Good luck everyone.

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Hello domg!
Does BaldurGate map for dom exist?

>>163420469
make one

>>163418985
hirdmen deserve an honorable mention too
their high defence skill and good protection combined with glamour makes them strong as hell for supporting the vanhere blender

>>163420469
Does anything really exist? Makes you think, huh?

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>>163421338
What is your favorite seafood, funny guy?

I wish all weeb posters were put through blenders tbqh

I'm excited now that I have brought in turn 1 for NewYearNovices.

Ermor here wishes luck to everyone else.

>>163424159

What will Ermor be doing to beat back the birb and bat menace?

>>163402960
Much obliged.

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>>163423478

>>163402960
You would think this is exactly the sort of thing you would put in a modding manual.

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NewYearNovices has begun!

>Pretenders