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Old >>128792456

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Character Planners, MP Range/Weapon AR Calculator, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans(Base Game & DLC) and Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems/Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer and Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art and Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101, Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info and DLC Guide Scans
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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kosm
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Just fuck my shit up kos
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gasm
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Fight club should be a higher level or gems should be banned
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Does the beast cutter have bleed on hit?
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Shit, I'm missing fight club
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Reminder that if you don't use a skill build you are literally a hipster (or just a scrub held back by attachment to personal preferences)
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>>128819778
Why?

>>128819779
nah
has serrated edge tho
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What are the best weapons to use with Arcane?
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>>128819835
Because getting 2 or 3 shotted sucks.
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>>128819834
SKL is boring as fuck, its name is an oxymoron
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>>128819912
Saw cleaver with shield.
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>>128819924
but when everyone can 2-3 shot people it evens out
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If I don't have Chalice gems or a lost chikage and 45 vit am I gonna get shit on in fight club? Normally never lose in mensis
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>>128819912
Kos Parasite for pure Arc damage, Saw Spear with Fire gems, Saif with Bolt gems.
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>>128819984
Who cares if it's boring? It's what wins, and if you don't use it you don't win.
Do you hate winning?
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>>128820014
Nah it just makes fights short as fuck. The most fun fights are ones that take at least 5 hits to put down another player.
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Is there a password I'm supposed to be using in this FC?

Also hurray, I wrecked some shitter who attacked when I was bowing and healed up.
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>you will never get help
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>>128820049
>every milkweed shitter only ever uses the kos parasite dashing R1
Way to make a fun build completely trivial, guys.
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>>128820019
>45 VIT
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>>128820125
sounds like you have shit gems and want everyone to have shit gems
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>>128820165
why would you use shitty moves if you can just keep spamming your best move?
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>>128819548
Artist?
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>>128820134
If it doesn't say it then you don't have to.

>>128820283
Because it doesn't work.
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>Lady Maria
>Whirligig
>Augur

Wait what
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>>128820262
Well thats part of the reason. Its also because I enjoy invading random players around my level and having long drawn out fights.
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>>128820337
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=54710416
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>>128820262
I agree with him, the fights literally last 3-4 hits. I have chalice gems and fights last not long at all
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>>128820014
I'm 135BL with 60VIT and disagree. Only MLG, blunt kirk, pizza and bloodletter can 3 shot me
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>>128820283
Because then I'll use my Wheel/BoM/Bloodletter and we dash attack until everyone loses.
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>>128820423
Already had a skill build, wanted to try strength.

And Augur is my spellfu.
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I was not expecting Defiled Amygdala to be this hard. I should have known but I didn't listen
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Anyone wanna try a gemless match?
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>>128820439
>>128820475
burst damage life, long fights are for slow DaS goobers
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post best strength weapons
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>Wheel and saw
Disgusting.
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>all that gunspam
Enjoy your victory.
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>>128820673
Everyone should save scum and up vit to 90-99 for the FC
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>>128820673
Long fights aren't necessarily slow. Its like fighting a npc hunter but only more dynamic and less predictable.
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>>128820581
Oh

Why not go for Valtr then, at least the weapon would fit
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>>128820954
Because I already have this one at 98. I might make it dual strength/skill and bring her to 120.
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>>128820471
Thanks
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>magic pixel

Fug
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Before you say anything, Clint, joke build as fuck.

Cannon + HMLS + Doll
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Wow you bullied me hard at the beginning there Lady Maria.
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Why is the camera for Loran Darkbeast such shit? I'm not even locking on
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Sorry Amygdala anon, forgot to take off the rune after fight clubbing. Be right back with you.
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Vicar Amelia with shit stats and no numbing mist is harder than fucking Orphan I swear to god.
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>>128821007
Fair enough, ggs tho
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>>128821401
Likewise.
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>first fc I lost every fight
>next fc my record was 4:4
>now I'm doing really well
Its like DMC3 in real life
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Got him down to 40% then he smacked my shit, can someone please help me end my suffering?
Pass is bb1, ringing outside the fog gate
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>>128820634
But, it's not hard . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uYl5afN2cI&feature=youtu.be&t=20s
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Burn in hell Killian.
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>Sunset
>L2
>JUST
Hayai
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>>128821605
:^J
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>>128821394
She has broken me, I need to take a few days off.
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>>128821506
>Looks like an old man, but acts like a baby
>Lives with his mom
>Spends entire fight screeching at you because he wants you to leave his hamlet

Orphan of Kos is /r9k/
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So my character is BL 120
30/20/50/35/10/25

How bad did I fuck up?
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>>128821394
I was able to kill her with just a cane but if you mean SL4 then yeah. I'd never do that to myself after trying a few level 1 builds. It wasn't challenging so much as tedious as fuck. I just couldn't deal with how long shit takes to kill.
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>>128820734
Whirlygig is my default weapon weapon now. I know, I know, I'm a memeing fuck, but the mace hits fast and hard and saw is stronk with the sexual L2.
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>>128821831
>walk to Kos' corpse
>cutscene starts
>oh fuck
>what
>is that wojak?
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>when you get combo'd hard by someone
I want to stomp on my balls.
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>>128821903
Start over. Delete your save data, uninstall the game, probably just set your PS4 on fire and buy a new one.
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>>128821903
35 vit isn't great
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What if mergo isn't actually formless, but his cradle is just empty because it's supposed to symbolize the fact that he was stillborn?
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>>128821903
you can always go to 140 with the rest of the retarded builds
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If I progress the night by touching Amelia's skull can I still coop in Cathedral Ward with people who haven't?
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>>128822056
>140
>retarded builds
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>enter large pitch black room
>2 spider summoning cunts
>2 projectile ayyy lmaos
>werewolves all over the place
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>>128822019
That's SKL not VIT
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gg Renault

That was fun as fuck.
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>>128822169
:^) that's what I said
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>>128821956
Are there no other good ones?
What do you want anyway other than the obvious 50 vit and 50 str?
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>>128822169
>being a shitter
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>>128821903
not good

put 20 more levels in vit
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>>128822216
Aye, nice to have some fistfights

I didn't even know Gratia could be parried lmao
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>>128822258
Could always go wheel
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>saif L1 mambo jambo
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>>128822258
there aren't many strength weapons but there are lots of really great str leaning quality weapons

go 50/25 str/skl
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>>128822187
Well 30 vit is downright awful and 35 skill is kinda pointless either stay at 25 or go to 50
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>>128821506
I wish I could help, anon, but all I can do is provide pointers.

Dodge to your right, his left, and stay behind him and when he jumps away, IMMEDIATELY close that distance. Stay close to him as much as you can. When he throws that shit into the ground, dodge the fuck away. He's parryable in BOTH forms, too.

You can do it, anon, I believe in you. I beat him just today. He's tough, he's fucking tough, but he's possible.

Don't remember to attack the black smoke on the Kos corpse at the end, too.
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>>128822391
>Evelyn L2 mambo jumbo
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>>128821903
There is no saving that, bro.
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>bloodletter
pls just let me spam eg in peace
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>>128822241
>>128822278
>vit builds
>quality builds
98BL is shitter SKL meta
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>>128822391
>saif
>L1
shiggy diggy
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What are some important things to do before going to NG+?
I already got the Blood Rock and beat all the optional bosses.
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>>128822521
anything is better than going above 120
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>>128822442
Any recommendations on what to use then?
I got really bored of ludwigs memeblade already
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>>128822472
>parry is not allowed
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>>128822470
Let them get blood drunk and suffer in the nightmare forever.
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>>128822521
you can get quality at 98, and the one vit build is 98
lmao 140 meta retards always bring this shit up but even the MLGS takes a max of 117 to get 50/25/25
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>>128822258
Plenty, anon. The Axe's tricked form has a very nice L2 with a wide swing and the charged R2 will knocked whole groups down, and single larger ones.

I mained it the whole game, along with Saw Cleaver for speedier hits. Any weapon is viable with the right stats, upgrades and gems.
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>>128822442
If you don't mind farming Heavy gems, most weapons that were previously Q-Str now work best as pure Strength.

>>128822632
Hunter Axe, Saw Cleaver, Kirkhammer, Whirligig, Beast Cutter.
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>>128822521
>I need more levels to compensate my shittiness
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tfw it's raining and night, and I'm talking to these weird blobs and they're asking me if I can hear the sound of water
Why is blood borne so comfy?
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I know it sucks but I want to do a Stake driver build. How should I spec up?
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>>128822521
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fc dead?
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>>128822579
get the DLC blood rock
get the three pvp covenant runes
get the coop covenant rune
get the 2 weapon related runes
get the living string

etc

>>128822632
church pick
beast cutter
claws
hunter axe
saw spear/cleaver
pizza cutter
any pure str weapon like kirk or amy arm

all are great on a 50/25
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>>128822763
That place was like one of the least comfy places I've ever been in a video game.
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>>128822751
Not that guy but something tells me you farm for gems, which, if you do, sort of completely invalidates your point.
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>>128822579
Stock the fuck up on items my guy

Make sure you eat the three third umbilical cords for the real last boss
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>>128822858
Still going.
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>>128822178
Don't forget
>Hemwick cunts summoning gangly shotel-wielding fuckers
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how do you salvage the poophammer
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>>128822921
I know it's fucking terrifying but the rain is making it a bit better
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>>128822839
>49 str

hurts my autism
fuck repeater, it's not worth an uneven stat like that
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>>128822883
>get the 2 weapon related runes
>get the living string

I completely forgot about these things, thanks m8.
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>>128823057
Its less terrifying and more horrifying and sad.
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Why can't they just be friends
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That's better. Saif can give you AIDS. Church Pick give you success, prosperity and respect
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beast claws with beast embrace or without?

what are the pros/cons of each?
which is objectively better?
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>buffing in the FC
I mean, it's not against the rules, but really?
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>>128823142
It's both, to be honest.
If your character were not a fast, strong hunter with melee weapons and firearms that place would be top notch survival horror material.
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>>128823113
The minmaxer in me is too strong to deny.
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>>128823285
people who use bma/papers are ridiculous tbqh
at least lead elixer is funny
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>>128823262
saif is love

church pick is just okay
the bonuses are all nice, but saif's moveset is just too good to pass up on
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>controller died
Welp, Clint out. Got my ass kicked enough today anyways. Time to make a couple webms
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>>128822673
>vit build
>98
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STOP CLAPPING AFTER YOU KILL ME
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>>128823252
one is a filthy vileblood
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>>128823285
Buffing adds negligible damage increases in BB. You can't even can't compare it to the souls games.

>>128823380
You can defend top tier gems + no healing then bitch about BMA and LE in the same breath.

>>128823442
Wheel
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>>128823354
on a 50/25, I'd spend too much time raping people to death with gatling gun to care about repeater in the slightest

>>128823442
C.F 84/12/20/12/-/15 BL98
wheel + flat gems
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>>128823442
yep he had 80vit and a flat arc wheel
probably the most effective level for the build too since a 50/50 ludwigs won't still 3/4 shot you
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>>128823442
not him, have you not seen that one image some anon post here with 80 or so vit with the wheel at 98
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>>128823252
Adella is crazy, possessive and jealous.
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how do you build for the bloodletter
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>>128823441
I hope i'm in one, i'm never in them, i only fought you once though, and i think i won.
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>>128823046
You don't.
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I'm sorry for this bloodtinge build doll cosplayer.
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>>128823516
the vileblood is kind, albeit slutty

the other is a psycho cunt
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>>128819548
Holy shit is the Milkweed/Parasite moveset and quickstep supposed to be this comical?

I love dodging towards an enemy with an alien dick thrust
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>>128823579
>>128823597
>wheel + flat gems
Never. It's cancerous weapon
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>>128823719
I only got 2 clips that I thought were worthwhile. One is a pretty cool combo and one is a fight that was over in 10 seconds.
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>tfw you can't knock up Arianna before Oedon does
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>>128823893
I was the guy in the Graveguard set. I've never been in a FC video, kind of want to be in one.
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>>128822839
fuck 98
just go 105 and get everything you want

48/18/50/25/08/06

>>128823886
that doesn't stop it from existing and being completely viable with base requirements
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>>128823886
it's a vit build sorry you don't like it
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>>128823985
It's flat wheel build.
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>>128824064
it's a vitgouge build
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If I die to this screaming cunt one more time I'll jump off a bridge
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>>128823978
As the creator of the 98 meta, I can not abandon her, my poor accursed child.
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>>128824240
140BL give youy more freedom for builds. And less damage
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>>128824342
but the most effective is 50/50 ludwigs which is impossible at 98 and deals more than the 5% defense increase
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>>128824289
Do a flip
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>>128824340
>As the creator of the 98 meta
>Luci
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YES
YES
I FINNALY WON A FC MATCH
YEES
WHEEL
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>>128822163
>>128822163
>>128822163
bls helb shidder :-D
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>>128824340
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>>128824342
At level 140 you can have 40 in 3 scaling stats and the game only has 4 scaling stats. That's just ridiculous.

>>128824571
She was an accidental creation, but it was still by my had that she was brought into this world.
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Is it possible to do well in PvP without farming for gems with retarded low drop chances?
I want to do some PvP but I already took my character up to BL 120 and I imagine most people in that range have really good gems.
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>>128824497
And my last webm of tonight. Thought this charge attack and then headshot was a cool combo.
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>>128824860
you can just get 27 percent gems quickly and you'll be fine.

You farm for 31/32 percent gems or those 65 str scaling gems.
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>>128820125
I swear to god reddit.

Word for word, reddit.

80-120, come equipped or fuck off.
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So I heard that you guys don't like Ludwig's Holy Blade because it makes the game easy or something?
But I've only have one completion and I really like the way it looks and feels so I wanted to try a build for it. What should I focus on to complement that weapon?
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Why are people coming to this fight club with less than 1000hp? I literally three shot someone with suboptimal gems. It's no fun if people can't stand up to a hit.
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>>128824860
I'm 120, working my way to the CRF dungeons and I have 3 gems that are 18, 18 and 19.5 but two are cursed with durability down
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>>128824467
>ludwig
Come on. I never see any mlg_pro who use Ludwig in FC . It's weak as fuck in pvp
And Pizza, MLG and bloodletter are literally 98BL 50/50 ludwigs
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>>128824885
I forgot the fucking webm
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>>128824778
>At level 140 you can have 40 in 3 scaling stats and the game only has 4 scaling stats. That's just ridiculous.
Just try. It's boogieman. 40 in 3 scaling stats = zero vit
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>>128825068
>cursed with durability down

That and depleting health are the only ones I would refuse to use; I fucking hate it when I get an otherwise good gem with either of those.
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Cosmo, why did you allow that to happen?
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>>128825090
because no one wants to use the shitter weapon on bbg
a good ludwigs use will drop you in a single l1>r1 r1
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Haven't played the music box in a while. Is it time?
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Cruel put the cainhurst rune on, i just realized i had execs on
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>>128825049
Most of the sub1ks you fight will be SRRC shitters. It can't be helped, they have no idea what they're invading into.
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>>128824860
Yeah, the DLC gems are plenty. I just wouldn't take them into a serious business FC.

>>128824758
. . . and this . . . is to autism . . . even further beyond!

>>128825049
Some people just have unfinished builds, but feel like playing.

>>128825249
You were saying?
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DOHRU FIGHTING YOU IS LAGGY AS SHIT WHERE DO YOU LIVE IN AFRICA STOP CLAPPING YOU FUCK
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>>128824778
typo and also reported fuckstick
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>enemy has 1 HP left after fully charged R2

Kill me.
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>>128825249
hurr

god you 140 fags are retards
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>>128825621
b-b-but where's your end?
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>>128822816
Since you didn't specify, I'm assuming BL98 end level.

>Option #1: 49/15/45/25/8/6 BL98 Military Veteran

Put 1x 65/15 Heavy Abyssal in it, and the rest 27.2%s. A 24.8/15 tempering is optional and increases its AR by a little bit. Also optional, decreasing Endurance to increase Skill for extra damage. Replacing the +15 flat secondaries with +%vs. Open Foes also optional.

Pros: best damage:survivability ratio of all the builds listed here.
Cons: requires lots of stats, resulting in low Endurance. Heavy gem is recommended.

Overall: Recommended if you don't mind farming BLB and prefer high AR over high viscerals.

>Option #2: 49/15/25/45/8/6 BL98 Military Veteran

Get full 27.2s. Optionally, replace the radials with 24.8/15 temperings.

Pros: Best visceral damage of all the builds listed here. Doesn't require Heavy gem farming.
Cons: also requires lots of stats. Compared to build #1 with a Heavy gem, loses ~25 AR, or without a Heavy gem, loses ~5 AR.

Overall: Recommended if you don't want to farm BLB. The extra visceral damage is worth losing 5 AR on a full 27.2% set-up.

>Option #3: 50/21/50/13/8/6 BL98 Military Veteran

You can drop stamina to get 15 Arcane if you'd like, or vit-gouge a bit. Requires 1x Heavy Abyssal

Pros: More available stat points to spend how you like. Heavy gems make the Strength scaling for Stake Driver favorable enough that you can go pure Strength on it.
Cons: Less damage. ~30 less AR than build #1. If you choose to vit-gouge, you still get a worse damage:survivability ratio than build #1. Absolutely must farm a Heavy gems in order to be worth using.

Overall: I only recommend this if you really want 15 Arcane (drop Stamina to 12) or feel that 15 Stamina from the other builds is too low.
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>>128825249
'Scuse me?
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gg fags. It's was bad FC today thanks to the servers. Do I use BoM in right way or not?
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>>128825675
Have you not been here long? People usually put barely anything into END.
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>>128825151
you've halted the walt
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>>128825265
Gems were a mistake
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>>128825716
>>128825621
But I have 80VIT 20END
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FUCK YOU DOHRU IM TIRED OF THE AND THE CLAPPING YOUR NOT AMERICAN SINCE YOUR INTERNETS SO SHIT SO STOP CLAPPING
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>>128825793
The more I think about it, the more I hate gems. Getting upgrade materials is already hard enough once you get to chunks
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>>128825765
That's why no one expected thousand swings with 25end
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>get echoes
>upgrade items
>refill consumables
>level up
>spend remaining echoes on pebbles and coins to throw at people
I love pebbles and pebble culture!
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OH MAN, thanks FC for the 20 insight
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>>128826139
>only 20 insight
lmao
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>>128825356
>ludwigs use will drop you in a single l1>r1 r1
Like pizza, bloodletter and mlg :^
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>>128826212
>mlg
>dropping you in one transform attack and then r1
lmao
only a 3x31% bloodletter can do that shit at 98
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>>128825986
I'm hoping Dark Souls 3 doesn't take inspiration from BB as far as weapon upgrades go. I much rather my weapons hit as hard as my stats say they should and not whatever bullshit I have to farm from the godawful Chalice Dungeons>>128825986
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>fighting Orphan of Kos on NG+
>don't really want to put up with his shit today
>stack some HP Up runes to get a shitload of HP and make the fight a lot easier
>this happens

alright then
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>>128826375
I hope they make scaling relevant again rather than arbitrary boost items.

In dark souls 2 you needed rings to do damage and in bloodborne you need gems. I liked it better in dark souls 1 where you can get a +15 weapon but the only thing that mattered was your stats.
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>>128825793
Just ban +damage gems.
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>>128826370
non trick R2. And Str Pizza 3 shot you.
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>>128826375
I don't like gems but fuck Trick weapons are the fucking best.
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>>128826375
I wouldn't mind if it just went back to DaS 1 in terms of weapon upgrading.
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>>128826448
Counter hit
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>>128826631
Doing a slow walk into a fight and tricking your weapon is cool as fuck
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>>128826563
It was also cool because elemental didn't really scale but did decent enough damage
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I'm going to bed, maybe I'll beat him tomorrow, r-right?
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>>128826702
It would be best is they stuck with BB style upgrades, only, give every weapon on gem slot and instead of it increasing scaling, just have it change it. So you can slot a quality gem into it to make scale from str and dex, or a magic gem to make is scale from int.
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>>128827014
I had to do that with Defiled Hot Dog
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>>128826906
Non-scaling weapons were a mistake.
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>>128822054
Mergo's not formless and he's not stillborn, either. He was literally cut out of Yharnam's womb before he was due.
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Gregor are you rocking the dial-up brah?
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>>128827140
You are damn right. Any weapon for a specific skill that doesn't start at B and go to A when upgraded sucks dick.
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>>128826737

I see.

In other news, how common is WebM related happening? No matter what direction I pushed the control stick in, I could only move in a straight line.
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>>128827239
Not as far as I know. I'm guessing you're the guy with the Bloodletter?

If you're asking because of phantom range, Wheel just kind of does that.
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>>128826139
>only 20

*plays music box*
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>>128827413
I've had stuff like this happen occasionally, where the AI just shuts off mid-fight. It usually comes back after I attack it a couple times. Can't remember which bosses it happened with, though.
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>>128827549
I had it happen with Ludwig and Laurence
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post yfw BLT exists.
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>2 Blood Rocks on 1 evening

Bless you /bbg/ and bless the Vileblood covenant.
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Question for those who follow the 98 meta, since most people put 50 into their damage stat and 50 into their vigor for PVP, which do you guys sacrifice? A few points of health, or a few of weapon stat?
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>>128827687
8^)
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>>128827786
kill yourself shitter
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Thanks for the pebble meta, Renault.

I always seem to get you when I do gimmicks.
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>>128827717
>98 meta
>There are 53 posters in this thread.
>meta as fuck
Standart /bbg/ build has 15END and 48VIT.
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I'm looking for help do fucking bad. Long story short, I haven't played Bloodborne since October but still bought the DLC in November but never played it.

I got a new modem Friday and hooked it up thus returning the Time Warner Cable modem. Since then EVERY FUCKING TIME I try to fucking play Online the second the game starts up I lost connection to server. If I plug the PS4 to modem it works so it's clearly the fucking router. I somehow got it to run for 5 hours today then watched Netflix for 2 hours then going back to Bloodborne the network won't connect again.

I'm getting real fucking salty over here, can ANYONE please help or have any idea what to do. I don't want to keep having to move cable from router to modem just to play Bloodborne.

Corrected for errors.
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>>128827717
You don't need to sacrifice either at 98, unless you're using a quality weapon, in which most people here (incorrectly) reduce vitality, but you should usually reduce damage stat. Depends on the weapon and how you have it gemmed, but reducing damage stat is almost always the way to go. 49 vit is OK, though.
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>>128827951
Actual meta is 80-120.
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>>128828027
Nobody fucking plays at 80.
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>>128828027
80-130. A lot people play 130. Even in jap 2ch threads.
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>>128828027
this. 50ish people who play BB out of the millions kick and scream when people don't use 98 meta and pretend its the only way to play.
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>>128827880
blt is fun
>>128828105
buscemi has several 78 builds
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>>128828105
A lot of people do actually. I use my 80 waifu for Nightmare frontier shenanigans.

>>128828152
It's a very vocal minority.
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>>128827549
>>128827619

But also being unable to move around yourself, except only in a straight line?
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>>128828181
>blt is fun
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>>128827970
My level 98 PvP build is 50/22/11/50/08/07. I don't feel like I am sacrificing anything.
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>>128828105
80 is best meta frick off
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>>128827441
If you're laggy those ''wrathful spirits'' won't do any dmg but they'll still stagger you even if you dodge them.
weird shit
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>>128827687
>mfw BLT
I still wanna try a BLT build one day, along with an ARC build.
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>>128827957
It could be something to do with leaving the PS4 in sleep mode, but that does sound weird, I have to say. I'm not sure what else to say, I'm afraid.
>>
Question for people from FC. I'm Mozart. Can you see difference in damage against me and other 98BL anons? Or survivability feels same?
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Ok disregarding Rakuyo R1 spammers and Ayy/Bloodlatter dash spammers that was fun today. Jeanne over and out.
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>>128828760
I think I played you a couple of weeks back. No offense but I feel like I can do riskier moves against you. Your AR may be a bit low I think.
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>>128828842
You obliterated me every single time we fought. I hardly got a scratch in on you.
>>
why won't this faggot leave me alone?
>>
/bbg/ what are some non-conventional or specialized builds you enjoy?
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>>128829207
>praise the dark
Holy FUCK how is he so based
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>>128828842
PSN? I switched over the display in case DeathStalker invaded
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>>128829207
>going smoke. Praise the Dark
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>>128829072
His anus is still bleeding from all that bloodlettering
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>>128829207
this dude is a fucking champion
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>>128829216
Jack of all Trades, fuck da haters

40/20/30/20/20/40
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>>128829207
>praise the dark

I have never seen anyone get so blown the fuck out in my life, you can't take that lying down
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>>128829474
>transface

never fails.
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He even sent me a fucking screen shot of his builds...
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>>128829216
Uh

Well in Dark Souls I had a Dragon Greatbow build.
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>>128828975
Probably because of normal Burial Blade without waning gem. I use 135BL 59VIT + 7% damage reduction rune now, so I interested about damage against me.
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>>128829651
oh my fucking lmao
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>>128829207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvkkuzj7-YY

he has a youtube btw. I dont think he remembers me
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>>128829651
>Mareza

Oh fuck so that WAS him. I killed him like twice
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>>128829651
>hitting the time cap
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>>128829728
>Mareza
got a mouthful of giant snake
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God damn Buscemi, that was intense as fuck

Are you running HP depletes?
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>>128829207
Actually, If he doesn't dupe - he is real champion and vileblood number one. And
>999hours
>8000k dregs
looks like he's really number one
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>>128829894
Yeah, saif's got a -4 HP gem.
I was outta bullets so I couldn't hold L2 correctly
Nice game, valve
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>>128829983
yeah he spent literally forever in mensis on his formerly level 100 bt dude with a regular form chikage and an evelyn just beating down retards
if you played pre-dlc you'd have found him in mensis eventually
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>>128829207
He actually number 7.
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>>128829651
>999 hours

I'd understand Demon Souls or Dark Souls but holy fuck, not bloodborne. It's not even because it's not good, I rate it #1 out of all the games, it's just that there's only so much you can experiment with before you get bored.
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>>128829727
He's better than I expected.
>>128830109
Dupers
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>>128830226
he didn't experiment
he literally sat in the same fucking spot next to the elevator to micolash/the shortcut in mensis and invaded 24/7
>>
DORHU YOU FUCK USE BLOOD BULLET BEFORE THE FIGHT ASSHOLE STOP CLAPPING
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>>128830271
he doesn't have any style or grace but he has timing and he can press r1
>>
are pure str builds/pure skill builds worth it

i got almost 5 builds fully complete and am just wondering if i should push it so i have a build that can utilize every weapon.
>>
Just killed Rai again, that's a pretty good way to end the night. Good fights mates, see you guys next week. Renault out.
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>>128830312
Kek, that's definitely something.

>>128830492
I get a 30 in another stat of anything I'm not maxing, so if I was going Berserk, I'd go 50/30 str skl
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One more point till lv 98. Should I go for 46 Vit or 47 Skill?
>>
>when work makes you miss fight club

Suffering
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>>128830634
46vit
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>>128830570
what the hell I can never get him
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>>128830570
you kinda lagged like a motherfucker but a beastcutter is always fun to fight
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>>128830634
>46 Vit
How? You should have 48VIT 50Skl. Spent two points for 18str?
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>>128830570
He found about about 6cb?
>>
Is BoM worth getting gud at or should I try church pick or saif?
>>
Can I coop Amelia after touching her skull myself?
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>>128830837
kobra invited him
the madman
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>>128830837
Kobra
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>>128830896
Yes, stop asking.
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>>128830816
If everyone's lagging against you then you're the one lagging Dris :J

>>128830932
>>128830945
I thought he never came back from playing baseball, the shitter.
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Can any brave soul accompany me through Maria and on into the well to get the Rakuyo right now? I'm level 70.

Want to grab it asap and two or three people will make it easy. I didn't bother last playthrough because it wasn't a skill build.
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>>128831073
I refuse to believe I could ever be the problem
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>>128831106
I'll help, what's the pass?
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>>128830889
Saif is easy mode for ladies. No Skill: The Weapon.
BoM (without dash spam) and Chruch Pick are for real man who wanna fight
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FUCK YOU whoever had the hunter axe in fc
You fucking hit me while I was getting my.Blood bullets and killed me
Follow the rules asshole
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>>128830819
28 Str for Gatling Gun
>>128830680
46 Vit it is
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>>128829651
bloodborne is truly the most replayable game
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>>128830889
Saif then Rakuyo
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>>128831073
also kobra only came back to invite him as an ebin troll I'm pretty sure, didn't show his face in fc
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Can anyone recommend me a good USB so that i can take away all my BB recordings from my ps4?
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>>128831407
Your phone
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>>128831370
It'd would mean something if le 999 hours man was actually good, but oh well.
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>>128831407
literally buy the first USB you see and you're fine
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>>128831148

"Dingus" is the pw. Standing right next to Simon in the research lab area.

Anyone else?
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>>128831483
he had a positive record pham, as sad as that is
probably still does
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>>128831407
I wasn't even aware there were USB standards.

They're all literally the same
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dohru you are the laggiest niggerfaggot of all time and if I have to fight you again I will l2 forever just like the first time
wew what kinda third world country do you live in lad
>>
Finally got the DLC and haven't had any problems until Orphan of Kos. Most of his attacks are easy to dodge but the motherfucker has so much HP
>>
Why do I even bother playing strength builds in these games anymore. Fucking Rakuyo can break the hyper armor of a HMS and Wheel, with fucking Chicago out damaging my 800+ ar weapons is fucking insane.

I really hope strength weapons are given their proper due in ds3.
>>
>>128830932
>>128830945
Actually I invited him, look in the comments of this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-fxuEUQ6nU
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>>128831548
Well, nightmare of mensis is a walk in the park.

>>128831673
Looks like you need to improve your connection if everyone's lagging to you :^J
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>>128831407
>recommend a usb

What century is this
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>>128831769
stop using my smirk at me senpai I invented it so its smug douche factor is just a constant reminder of how amazing I am at meming
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>>128831745
the boomhammers R2 can poise through the rakuyos L2. All the weapons you mentioned can poise through rakuyos R1 and R2
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>>128831673
Not him, but do you understand how net works? If you have 1000mb connection that doesn't mean you will have 70ms with China, Japan and Russia.
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>>128831768
>Top "when I speak, nobody gets to speak at all" Burger

The absolute madman.

>>128831856
*tips music box*
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>>128831768
You was Katana XDDDD today?
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>Using DLC weapons last couple months because they're the new hot shit
>Getting blown up because I keep switching which ones I'm using, gemming up, never practicing any single weapon for long
>Most of them don't really mesh with my playstyle
>mfw I see my trusty Threaded Cane while scrolling through inventory

post yfw you switch to your main
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>>128831745
use the strength weapon with the best phantom range.

You are always too slow to trade, so you have to predict where he's going to be and hope your swing catches him.
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>>128830570
and as a bonus, here's a webm of him getting parried
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>>128831846
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>>128832042
i'd literally be posting your pic but i if i had to pic something else
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>>128831768
>TheRaikoh


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AAAAA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

FUCKING

W
O
W

I knew this guy back in DeS 4-1 days. He was a laughingstock of the community. Nobody fucking liked him, and this DeathStalkerRai act is exactly what I'd expect from him.
>>
About to fight living failures, anyone want to join me?

Pass will be bbg, let me know if you want in
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>>128832041
yes, also its only 3 D's FYI

>>128832192
noice
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>>128831148

I can't put down my sign for maria hrm. Is there a trick?
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>>128831770
I want to send my recordings to my computer so that i don't erased my first moments of bloodborne. Seriously retards these days that don't use commun sense.
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>>128832042
I had to dust off my old cleaver.

>mfw
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>>128832192
You parried me earlier in the FC.

I was really salty because I did an R1 when I meant to do a running attack, and if I'd done the running attack, I wouldn't have been parried.

That was like four hours ago and I'm still mad, actually.
>>
>TFW there are only two good weapons for BLT plus the evelyn
>Can't blt any weapon like you can with arcane
This kind of sucks.
>>
>>128832045
it's not even about hitting them, it's the fact they can out damage me in almost all occasions. Why the fuck does a spin to win l2 of a fucking sabre and dagger do more damage then a charged r2 of a wheel or hms?

Maybe I'm the faggot in this FC but I'v fought too many pure skill Rakuyo Shitters tonight for my taste.
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>>128831768
nothing personnel
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>>128832387

I just did it but I could use some help on maria
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>>128832342
Source
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>>128832042
Cane and Axe are too good for me whenever I make new str/skill builds. Can carry you thru the whole game by themselves or when you have to use that new weapon for your build. Really love how starting weapons in this are viable You guys may not be the hot new shit but I know I can depend on you motherfuckers
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>>128832449
Jeez man, Any USB Stick will do. You can also use your phone as a storage device.
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r8 my Hastur
Eyes are yellow now
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How soon after the Living Failures is Maria? And how soon after her is the Rakuya? Just bought the DLC tonight and I'm trying to grab it quick for my skill character.
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>>128832685
my korra folder :^) http://imgur.com/ZZoIjuH
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I am at maria with the password Dingus of anyone is willing to help.

Level 70. Can't get breathing room to heal. Cpuld die 19 more times to learn it again and win but that's sup slow.
>>
>>128831768
wow that was me. First time I fought him.
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>>128832829
Ludwig>living memes> maria>Orphan
You get the rakuyoyo in the area where the orphan of kos is, or the fishing hamlet
>>
I swear you're the only person I have trouble closing out games against, Buscemi. I think I panic too much and make myself too obvious. ggs, dude.
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>>128832829

Doing same thing. Maria is instantly after failures and Rakuyo is a bit after that. No bosses between though I think.
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''Arcane build'' lil nigg you need better gems and more hp for pvping
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>>128832741
Okay thanks anon i will try to be careful then
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>>128832856
Fight her one more time alone. You won't die, partner.
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>>128832829
>How soon after the Living Failures is Maria?
She's in the next room.

>And how soon after her is the Rakuya?
It's in the area right after Maria. You'll reach an area with a well. Go down the well, it's in there.
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>>128832543
Huh. Sure that was me? Chr name?
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>>128832990
Wanna help eachother out? Im on living failures now
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>>128832981
If you use Saif, ye can be butt friends
>>
>>128833129
It was somebody with a Blunderbuss and Beast Cutter, so I assume it was you.

Character was Axe Crazy Juli.
>>
>>128832981
You'll get it soon. Glad to see more people staying in tricked chicago.
>>
>Bloodborne title music
Man this is so fucking pleasant. Why even play the game?
>>
>>128833216
That wasn't me, I never fought anyone with a Hunters Axe

Topburger had a similar load out when I fought him though
>>
>>128833203
I'd tip my music box and my Saif, NightFangx2003 to you but I'm going to sleep, it's 4am.
>>
>>128833145

Sure. What's the pw. I'll put my shit down at failures.
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>>128832856
Comin senpai.
>>
>>128833312
bbg
>>
You're now imagining Crowsteel cumming a gallon of blood in Annalise.
>>
>>128833303
Maybe I fought him, then.
>>
>>128833356
If anyone else wants to join that'd be great. Trying to grab the rakuyo before i have to go to bed, which sadly, is relatively soon since i've gotta start getting ready to wake up early for uni.
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>>128832042
>try rakuyo
>really not feeling the weapon and how it flows with its attacks as opposed to the BoM
>switch back to my trusty daggers
I'll never leave you, best daggers in the souls games
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>>128833365

I don't think that's how the dregs get in.

Although how do they get in? Does Annalise just pull up her dress and you just kinda slide them in like coins into a vending machine?
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>>128833365
you mean in femhunter
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>>128833347

Help in that other anon on failures then I'll summon ya with Dingus at maria? Is that cool?

Buddy on failures...not getting connected.
>>
>>128833365
>The reason eileen was on the steps is because she was trying to drain/digest all the blood-cum packed into each of her holes, making her look pregnant
>And Crowsteel didn't believe in cuddling after
>she didn't die, he just made her ahegao so hard, the aftershocks sent her back into the hunter's dream.
>>
>>128833551
think you are now, just got a popup saying someone was joining
>>
>Want to try new builds
>Don't want to grind through the game again

I'd kill for a respec item
>>
So what's the deal with mensis and the cage?
>>
>>128833678
It's an antenna.
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>get waning offshape on 2nd try farming watcher
>31.5% blood attack
>ATK down 7.9%
>>
>>128833678
Shut the fuck up
>>
>>128833678

They're crazy people who think a big metal cage will help them make contact with eldritch horrors.
>>
Thinking of making a new character so I can play Kratos and main the Beast Cutter whip
>>
>>128833551
based faygitron. lemme go level up and we can help eachother with maria. you said you were still on her right?
>>
>>128833607

I just restarted the ring.

bbg no caps right in front of living failures door? I'm level 70.
>>
>>128833678
They think it lets them talk to space fish, but it actually does nothing.
>>
>>128833678
[AWOOS CLEARLY]
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>>128833518
You mean in Maria.

They're my OTP.
>>
>>128833853
cute!
>>
>>128833804
That was someone else needing help with Maria, actually. I'm just here to help out.
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>>128833821
oh, someone else must have helped me. I just killed them with a wheelbro.
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>>128832042
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Anyone wonder what'll be like to fight Odeon if he wans't formless? If so what kind of level stage and final stage would be like? Pic related i imagine something like this to enter the great one world
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>>128833890
Bloodborne is for cute.
>>
>>128833551
>>128833804
So we're good for Maria?
Dingus or bug for pw?
>>
>>128833552
>first line

Fuck yeah. There was a fuckin good set I read a couple days ago by kawahagitei
>>
>Try for constable leggings
>Cleared the ticks under the bridge with ease thanks to my giant flaming hammer
>Decide to do much the same and just run in and smash like an idiot
>Stunlocked for a whole five seconds while all four of them spit at me
Holyshit. Spit OP, pls nerf
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>>128833982
agreed! ^~^
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>>128834016
just use bbg, it makes it easier for other people from the thread to just join on accident. do you wanna host first or should i?
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>>128833845
I get that but did they all go into a dream and then physically die? I don't really get the process behind it.
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>>128834016

I'm Dingus guy. Outside of maria woth Dingus as pw. I'll still help bbg guy too though
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So who wants to have a super fun time dying together to Ludwig, the rape horse, with me?
Ringing at the fog, BL 115, pass bbg
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>>128834093
I was the guy told to wait earlier.
You host, I'll jump in then he will.
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>>128834119
hold up, bbg guy here, im ringing now
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>>128834119

Ok. bbg it is. We can do maria for you first
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>>128834129
I'll be there in a bit, sure.
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>Defiled Amy

I'm done wiping on this. Can I get some help anons?

pw: wma2
lvl: 113
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>>128834279
Kk got it. Wheelbro is here, we're waiting on you
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Does anyone happen to know the exact numbers to make your character the same shade of blue as the milkweed transformation? It bothers me so much that it just stops at the arms and head
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lol, proper gangbang mariabros. Who are we joining now?
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I don't have the DLC, what makes the Saif so good? Doesn't look like anything special
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>>128834379

Yea. I'm not sure what the deal is. I have bbg level 70 right outside of maria. I'm ringing my small bell to help bros but nothing
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>>128834236
Dingus now, right?
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Aahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas OR KOSM OR SHOME SUY KOSMOS DU YU HIER UR PLAYERSS????? PlEASE GIVE ME YOU YOU YOU TOUO
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>>128834648
you have to ask >>128834589

Did you change the password bro?
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Is 40/11/14/11/42/7 a good build for bloodletter?

I already made it and i'm level 75, not sure if I should go to 98 and what to improve
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>>128834648

I'm Dingus guy but my network pw is bbg currently. I'll seek help now then.
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>>128834790
ok, coming
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>>128834863
standing right outside maria with bbg, rung my small bell. Do you have your regional settings set to local or worldwide?
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>>128834790
Sorry, I mentioned I would come earlier, but I realized I hadn't gotten through the DLC, since I just went to NG+, I'm at Ludwig now.
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>>128834863

Ok. Now...getting to the well where rakuyo is I'm not entire sure how to get there. Do you know specifics?
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>>128834129
Still at it?
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>Ludwig the Rapehorse
>Can get him to next form with my 45 ARC and +8 Fire Saw Spear with maybe 5 or less Vials.
>He gets that sword
>Always combos my 20 VIT from full to zero.

Should I just start my character over or do I just need more eyes?
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>Died five times to the beast shitter behind Nightmare chapel and counting
FUCK
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>>128835289
Yeah. Ringing near the fog
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>>128834721

Capping out tinge is the only thing I can think of, but you probably don't want to go higher if you're looking to invade.
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>>128835306
Summon Valtr.
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>>128835306

Do you really need to solo him?
If not,i did it with 40 arc and 17 vit with a +6 fire cleaver and both summons for him
If you need to solo him, then my advice is git gud
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>>128835284
Just run into town and you'll see the well. The problem is killing the two fish giants in it... Anyone wanna help? these guys are assholes.
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>>128834129
Also ringing.
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>>128835719

I can send out my help at the well. I'm Dingus guy. If you can help me too. bbg. Sitting on the well.
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>>128835719
>Anyone wanna help? these guys are assholes.
Just drop down, aggro the one, run back up the ladder an run around to the two winerlanterns, kill them and if you have bowblade or some kind of ranged damage, take shots at them rom the ledge.
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>>128835860
cool. Should be easy to 2 man. have you rung small or beckoning?

>>128835906
I dont have any ranged
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this is like that thing in anime where two guys do their katana slice thing and only one of them gets out
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>>128832042
I fell for the Rakuyo, but I can't abandon my true love, the Reiterpallasch.
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>just began
>killed cleric beast 3rd try after getting him within a sliver of life first try
>currently mildly stuck on father gazza, again nearly killing him the first time

I really hope this doesn't become a pattern.
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>>128835957

Ringing small resonant at the spawn place right outside of town.
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alright, I'm out
there's no way I don't need sleep after literally standing still and eating three (tres, 3, III) tricked meme cutter R1
glad I came back to spank dris and get some practice with what was presumably the fabled strayan korean bloodletter
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For those who still use BoM, what gems do you guys use for pvp? The standard 27.2 physicals or 9.8 phy w/ 72.5 flat for arc?
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>>128836051
k hang on one second
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Ludwig anon here. Thanks for your help bro! Fortunately I didn't deliver what I promised, which is dying to him.
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>>128835995
>I did the exact same thing.
It's still cainhurst, I said, it still works, I said.
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>>128836094

It's a skill weapon so 27.2s.
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>>128836037
Just run up the stairs past gazza, the fight becomes uch easier when you aren't bcking oyur ass up into tombstones.
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Man, chalice dungeons would be so much fun if it wasn't so much fucking work getting the stuff to make them.
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>>128836147
The Rakuyo is still a valiant sidearm, some times L2 spam is better than surprise parries.
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>>128836094
27.2 is what you want. Flat arcs give you a higher number on your stat sheet, but less overall damage.
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>>128836051
Awesome. I'm ringing my small bell now.
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>>128836307
>27.2 is what you want. Flat arcs give you a higher number on your stat sheet, but less overall damage.
Thanks, that was the whole reason I asked since I used that weapon AR calculator shown me that the latter had higher AR
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>>128836274
WOW I'M AN IDIOT, EVERY DEATH SO FAR HAS BEEN BACKPEDALING INTO TOMBSTONES AND TAKING THE RED EYE TO STUNLOCK CITY

THANK YOU BROTHER
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>>128836501
It's not a nice round circle, but it's wide and long enough to dodge past around and back from him.
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>>128836393

I did Rakuyo for someone. Ringing beckoning now? Was that not you?
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>>128836606
Plus if he's riding your ass too hard you can drop down to sneak in a heal or two then run back up.
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>>128836051

might wanna wait for two next time
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>>128836726
That was probably me. There was another guy that wanted help that I was talking to
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>>128836501
If that doesn't work try and keep the group of tombstones closest to the gate between you and him. You should be able to hit him without taking damage for the first two phases.
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>Cooping in Forbidden Woods
>invaded by "g"
>lags like fuck
>immediately turns around and runs into enemies when he sees my summon
>summon dies to snekballs
>invader continues to hound my ass in a pile of enemies
>escape
>15 minute fight ensues where neither of us can hit one another because of his McDonald's wifi connection
>land a hit
>he heals
>land a combo
>he heals
>cant parry his laggy R1 spam
>close game out of frustration
why the fuck can invaders heal again?
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>>128835567
Yeah, I mainly invade and co-op, so I should stay at 75?
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>>128837098
lol
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Man, i hate ATK down gems so much.
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getting a fucking million servings of srrcfags so I'm done
dris/alexis/killian/agonist outie remember to get gems and level vit kids
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>Get to the end of the game
>Now my shack is permanently on fire and there's a really angry old dude next door

Not too comfy right now
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>>128836985
I pulled that trick once or twice just to get some heal time. Should be all right duelling on the stairs though.
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>>128837343
why can't we move to a closed dungeon?
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>Just fucking boomhammer charged ludwig down to his second phase in under a minute
I love this thing. I love it so much.
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>>128837527
I tried to push for that but everyone forgot about the poll and junk
maybe next week
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>>128835670
Both summons? What summons?
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>>128837239

I'd say so. It's a good level for late NG online and your bloodletter is very strong at that level.
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>>128837626
Talk to the NPC in the Forbidden Woods in the hut near the first lantern and he'll give you an Oath Rune. Equip it and you'll be able to summon him and another guy, but the other guy will probably try and fight the two Void giants.
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>Just beat Maria first try without using a single fucking parry

Take your blood weebshit katana and shove it up your cavernous cunt you uppity gigawhore. Based Hunter > Shitty anime protag maria
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>>128837567
>Just beat ludwig in under 4 minutes, gattling spammed him to 25% and hammered him to 0%
I mean, I summoned valtr and the other cannon fodder, who died like he always does, but I've never had this fight so easy before, and I've never done it first go on a character. Holy shit.
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>>128837613
the one that ended up with isz?
garbo

the best is hizz room in loran
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>>128837296
Agreed, it's the worst fucking shit, shouldn't even be a curse
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>>128837961
I agree but these plebs have no taste
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>>128832042
i was trying to use Saif on my main for a while, it was never as fun or effective as Burial blade for me, i still have it gemmed and equipped because i want to believe it's good, but the scythe just works better for me
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>>128837963
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>>128837626
Younger Madras and Valtr
Both can be summoned as theyre both confederates
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101 me please.

I want to use the Holy Moonlight Sword. I just did a low-level run through Ludwig to acquire it. As I'm wanting to make use to both sides it's going to be kind of a STR/ARC build, and it seems Nourishing Gems are the best for this.

In the pastebin in the OPs, it says Lost weapons are good for split-damage weapons that need nourishing gems, so I am going to get me one of those, but my question is, being kind of dumb when it comes to the chalice system...

The trade is a Radial for a Waning slot. Why is this better for the nourishing?
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>>128832042
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>>128838146
Nourishings drop more often in radial form?
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>>128837848
Okay, well, in case I'm gutter trash and eventually run out, how would I go get insight to use these summon things? I'd rather not pop my madmen items.
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>>128838146

Because you'll be getting abyssal nourishing from layer 3 Amy for your waning and triangle slots. Your radial nourishing just won't ever be as good.

Worth noting, though, is that nourishing radials are easier to get because you can farm regular-ass gargoyles for them. But they're worse.
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>>128837963
>>128837296
I honestly hope they remove this shit.
i farmed top tier gems on 4 characters BLT and ARC were fucking cancer and I don't see myself doing it again in DS3.
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>>128838146
Waning and Triangle have a higher ATK UP than Radial. The less Radials you have the better.
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>>128838286
Speedrun depth 1 chalice dungeons, use the souls to but the ritual blood(1) to do it all again.
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>>128838146
Amy's drop like 21.5% nourishing abyssals. Roms go up to 19.5%, white gargoyle radials go up to 19.3%.

I will never ever farm Rom.
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>>128832042
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>>128838326
>>128838363
>>128838408
Appreciate the quick lesson. Thanks.
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Is this alright?
If I want to go to 120 what should I do?
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>>128838286
Also, if you get low on blood vials the corpse pounding on the gate in front of Ludwig's arena always drops 5.
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>MP can do another insta frenzy ultra beam right after the first that doesn't stop your health at 1

Sasuga final boss
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>>12883877
I-I fucked up.

Is this any good for an arcane build?
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Can't kill orphan of Kos for the life of me.

pass is bbg if anyone can help a scrub out.
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>>128838954
I'd be putting that extra 2 points into STR so you can use the Loch Shield and Beast Cutter if you feel like it.
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Question: I want to get the burial blade, but I don't want to go into NG+ yet. Can I eat 3 umbilical cords, kill gehrman, then die/bold hunter's mark out of the moon presence and still have access to his gear?
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>>128839070

Yup. All you gotta do is kill Gehrman to get his badge.
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>Create chalice dungeon
>First floor boss is Bloodletting Beast
>Second floor boss is headless Bloodletting Beast
Gettin' real tired of your shit, beast
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>>128838776
It's fine.

50 vit 19 end.
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>>128839110
Tasty. Thanks friend.
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>>128839070
Yes, that's the best way, you can also get to the lower loran chalice dungeon and get the uncanny version, it's a bitch though.
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>Lameass gank squads all over Hunter's Nightmare

Do these people think they're clever? I know I can't invade them unless they have a buddy, if I see them alone I'm just going to be looking out for him.
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>>128839187
Thanks, I'll probably just BHM, I know literally nothing about chalice dungeons
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>>128832042
I keep upgrading different weapons and gemming them up, but I always finding myself goin' back to ol' faithful
>tricks boomhammer
Nothin' personal, beast.
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>>"Lost connection to server. Returning to main menu"

So, I figured out the problem and honestly it makes zero sense. So you know on the PS4 menu when your highlighted Bloodborne icon, below is is the manual, Online Gear etc. Those are blacked out and empty but if I wait 2 minutes they fill in. Once they are filled in I can play the game no problem.

Why the fuck is this the only PS4 game doing this?
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>the Clock Tower is actually the doll's nightmare, which you free her from by killing Maria
>Maria didn't actually exist
>she's just the doll's idea of what being a hunter is like, and her idea of how Gehrman wants her to be
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>>128839403

I think that's a personal issue, mine always light right up.

Also, you should never click ok on that message. Quite often you will get the invasion/summon ten seconds after that message pops up, and clicking okay doesn't boot you once you're in someone else's world.
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>>128839302
Do you mean actual gankers or people just trying to finish the level? I was thinking of invading there but don't want to run into the cancer that purposely ganks.
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>>128839424

Maria as doll fanfiction seems somewhat plausible. We all read her as a fanfictiony type character already, and given how she feels about the good hunter, she might think that's exactly as badass as the player is.
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>beat the game twice
>just learned how to do the leap attack
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Whats a good offhand for Rakuyo in a pretty much pure skill build? Saif, burial blade, or maybe bowblade? I don't really have any BT though.
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How'd the fight club go?
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>>128839607

Well, you can never know for sure whether it's an assembly line or if they just retreated and setup an ambush as soon as the message popped up, but when you're invading at BL100 and a host lures you back to the first lantern while his summon tries to stand inconspicuously in the skeptical man's alcove, it's hard not to think it's a gank.
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>>128839757

Both Saif and BB work. I'd say BB so you have something with reach and hyperarmor to even out your quick, spammy Rakuyo.
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>>128839842
lmao, yeah that sounds like a gank
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>>128839701
Also Gehrman doesn't even mention Maria when he's mumbling to himself.
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Thanks Gregor you beautiful bastard
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>>128839532
It's just Bloodborne, all my other games don't do this. That's why it's so fucking odd.
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Has anyone here played the game with the voices in a language other than English?
Spanish speaking Doll is cute.
CUTE!

Basically everyone else sounds dull as fuck though
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>>128839607
When people here say "gankers" they 100% of the time, without fail, mean "some random fuck who is trying to beat the level and summoned help."
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>>128840096
color me curious. are the voice files on youtube? I do really like her slight russian accent though.
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>>128840096
French Doll is also CUTE. French dub is great.
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>>128834370
Just cheese him anon

It's probably easier solo

For phase 1-2 stand at the tip of his tail and he'll jump. Stay still and charge r2 and hit his head when he lands

For phase 3 face his crotch and hammer away at his legs and when he jumps roll through his legs once and continue
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>>128840096

I did a playthrough or two in French. It was kind of neat. French Doll's voice isn't great but French itself is sexy enough to make up for it.

>>128840168

You can just change your game to any of the dub languages at any time. It's on the menu after Play Online or Play Offline.
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Anyone wanna kill Mergo's Wet Nurse with me before I go to bed?
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>>128833678
It helps them contact Kos. Or as some would say, Kosm
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>>128840317
Hey come on the way she says "Je suis une poupée." is fucking adorable.
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>>128840028
You know, that would explain Maria's whole moveset. Maybe the doll thinks it's cool.
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>>128839841
Pretty shit. PSN shat itself near the beginning and basically shut the club down for a few hours. By the time things were back on track most of the participants had already fucked off.
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>>128840168
Youtube has some Bloodborne let's play videos in Spanish, but it's European Spanish as opposed to Latin American Spanish. I've never liked how Europeans speak Spanish despite the fact that it's obviously the way it's meant to be spoken.

Anyway, like >>128840317 said, you can just check it out for yourself.
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>>128840108
True, but i'm just saying. If they have time to wait with messengers gift, set up ambushes and maybe have all the enemies killed already then I don't think beating the boss is their top priority.
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tfw getting ass handled by the 2 church hunters after ludwig
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What's the deal with this asshole's jump attack? It's an one-shot and there's no way to predict where he will land and it's driving me up the fucking wall
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>>128840567
As soon as he preps for the jump, stop moving.
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>>128840512
Cool but also gruesome. I mean, the good hunter always comes back completely covered in blood and half-dead. And Gehrman used to be fucking awesome with his edgy scythe.
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>Doing mensis on my second character
>Didn't beat the game but he's at 98 and I've done every chalice and dlc except for the one that requires me to kill big brain
>Get invaded
I feel bad.
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>>128840096
I have the Japanese voices

They're so out of place it's really jarring. I kind of like Japanese Micolash though and the way he says Kos and Kosm
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>>128840326
Fuck it, sure. Set a pass and I'll be there.
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>>128840540
You don't just run past them?

You can also try the stairs cheese. The one with the sword will always follow you down but the other just kind of stays back on the top half of the stairs chilling while you kill the sword hunter.
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>>128840681
Heh, actually I just ran in and fucked him up. +10 rakuyo is stronk. I'm down to do Gerhman though if you wanna fight him with me. Pass will be bbg
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>>128840789
>guys help me on this boss
>okay pass is x
>nvm i beat him lol
Everytime
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>>128840096
How do you change the voice options? I thought you needed the Japanese re-release.
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>>128840673
Do you have any youtube links? I'd love to hear this.
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>>128840879
you will note i never said i needed help.
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>>128840538

Theoretically, waiting for an invader with an ambush is a great way to take care of an invader and then move on with the level without worry. Ambush is the best form of warfare after all. It's really just on the invader to either not walk into it, or walk into it with the upper hand.

The problem is that, unless you're on voice chat, it's really difficult to coordinate a good ambush on the fly, so it's more likely they were waiting for invaders specifically (maybe planning to make a "trolling" video for youtube) than that they just figured their shit out while you were zoning in.

In my case, which I related at the beginning of this reply string, they felt much more like lame attempts at ganks than desperation maneuvers because of the level of planning.
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>>128840879
Most of the time people ask for help on bbg it's less that they need help and more that they want to co-op for fun.

>>128840903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi14VJ_5cmc
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>>128840789
Ringadingin' in the dream, then.
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>>128839841
not too hot, didn't fillm either because the fights were laggy as nuts or ez frags
psn was sorta down for a while
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>>128840567
He always lands the opposite way of what he's facing.

Eg, if you look at the pic you posted, if you're standing near his legs and he jumps, he'll land facing the building.
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>>128840096
>Get excited
>Check
>Only britbong, surrenders, pasta krouts and spains
What the fuck is this shit, and why is it allowed? Where is my superior nihongo?
>>
>>128841141
I did notice that, but I didn't notice this
>>128840643
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>>128841014
Ahh Gos, arewa Gosm

Pretty funny, and the howl is hilarious. I don't understand why the recorder would lave the music on though, it drowns out half his lines.
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>>128841092
rip

I'll ring again, heh
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>>128841158
>Where is my superior nihongo?
TOH edition
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>>128841014
>that AWOO

I dunno man... I'm not feeling it.
KOSUM sounds kinda neat though.
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Why am I so bad at this? I want to beat this game so bad but I keep either getting lost or get stuck on a boss. Love this game but man it's driving my patience
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Need help with Defiled Amy. My asshole is at its limit, I fear I can't git gud enough.

BL 120, PW bbgbbw

Send help!
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>want to cheese Hunter's Nightmare to pick up Beast Cutter
>get summoned to learn the layout of the area
>hunters
>fucking
>everywhere
>and my shitty axe does no damage to them
oh god I'm not ready
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>>128841014
>>128840960
It's less the help part I was focusing on, more the fact that people go and fight the boss straight after posting on /bbg/. Too many times I've gone and rang at the area, posted a reply, waited 10 minutes then got "lol nvm beat him".

Rude.
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>>128841534
Be there shortly anon.
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>>128841579
Dashing through is effective

no seriously, just suicide run it, it's not too far from the start.
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Thanks gerhmanbros. I shut my game off because I don't want to go to NG+ just yet, wanted the burial blade though.
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Anyone wanna help with NG+ Ludwig? I can get him down pretty good, but he keeps killing me. Ringing at fog, pass is bbg.
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>>128841579
you're not ready to fight, sure, but beast cutter is so early on that running through and getting it is no problem whatsoever.
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>>128841715
Could've at least died gracefully. I was whacking an offline MP for like a minute.
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>>128837263
Everytime.
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>>128841579
Just bolt to it. It's literally the first DLC weapon you find so it's not too far away. Just be lucky it isn't behind a boss fight like most other weapons.
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>>128841738

Sure, be there in a jiffy.
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>>128841764
Couldn't have you thinking I'd do something as shitter-tier as die to moon presence. I thought it would disconnect you faster though, sorry for the wasted time.
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>>128841738
I'll lend a hand after helping out with Amygdala here, if you still need help once we're done.
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>>128841896
Thanks. He keeps fucking me on one of his combos.
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>>128841917
Nah it's fine I'm just taking the piss.

Also don't underestimate the MP man, I beat gehrman in two tries on my first playthrough but died 5 to MP. Guy is tougher than he looks.
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>>128841625
Thanks, I'll be at the lantern
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>>128842020
Comin in via SRRC.
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>>128841983

the temptation to kill was overwhelming

going to take off my rune, brb
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>>128842367
Okay.

Beg for Life is the best guilt trip.
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>>128842137
Thanks a ton bros
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>>128842367
Wow, I actually got hit by that.
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Just got the 3rd and final Moon rune. I've heard Mergo's Loft Middle is a good place to farm blood echoes. What's the strategy? Just kill everything or is there a specific enemy I should run for and then BHM to reset them.
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FC dead?
I've fought two people total
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>>128842735
The general idea for echo farming Middle Loft is to equip tier 2 and 3 Heir and tier 3 Moon and backstab pigs over and over, if I'm not mistaken.
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>>128842735
Kill the pigs.
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>>128842735
Just kill them all then jump into the elevator shaft.

Grants you like 100k in NG in one sweep of everything excluding the shadows near the bell woman.
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Thanks, Gregor and Clare!
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Should I give up? I can't beat this stupid orphan. I always run out of vials and he always gets me with the flying blood bombs attach in the second phase.
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What are good levels to stop at for low-level pvp?
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You know, it's a shame the game just abruptly ends when your mission is done. I'd love to see some of the aftermath of the game's events

For the record
Most of Yharnam's blood-using population went completely mad or became beasts
The city streets are overrun with a veritable army of independent and unaffiliated foreign hunters, all who flocked to the city to take part on the night of the hunt. Nobody commands them, nobody holds authority over them and, most importantly, nobody can really make them leave.
The Choir, the highest authority of the church ruling Yharnam has lost its pet Great One -the entire reason for their cabal to exist.
The School of Mensis, the other ruling authority of the church, has been completely destroyed
The Vicar of the church is dead.
The undead queen of the vilebloods has been freed and once again rules Cainhurst Castle with a force of oathsworn of hunter-knights to do her bidding
An old, fanatic order of violent, martyr-worshipping church zealots has been revived by a new wheel-bearing martyr
Some beast-eating, bucket-wearing loon has come out of the woodwork and organized a group of delusional hunters into an organized fighting force with the eternal mandate to kill anything and everything "impure" that they can find, perpetuating the night of the hunt eternally in their quest for imaginary bugs to squish.
And, of course, the Pthumerian shadow-government manipulating the city has lost its immortal queen, and is now a headless snake of surreptitious superbeings. coiled around the embattled Yharnam.

The city's government has all-but collapsed. There's no authority, there's no rule of law, there's just a half dozen factions with armies of psychotic, blood-crazed hunters occupying the city, and now with no more beasts to hunt. The city's about to become a warzone.
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>>128843095

np, I love fighting Ludwig.

Gregor and I have teamed up twice tonight for whatever reason.
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>>128843146
>The city streets are overrun with a veritable army of independent and unaffiliated foreign hunters

Eh, I think in the canon of the game there's only one Good Hunter, and he's taken care of by the end of the game. You're either not a hunter anymore, you're trapped in the Dream, or you're beyond human understanding.
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>>128843167
Should've asked for your help sooner, then!

If you're wondering what I got stuck on, it was the close sweep combo with the Moonlight Sword.
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>>128843112
Don't give up, skeleton!
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Damn. Just capped off an almost perfect run, except for the fact that Eileen died during one of her dumbass fights. Really wanted that hunter rune too. Oh well.
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>>128843167
I've teamed with Beast Skinner like two or three times tonight and fuck knows how many times over this last week. Then there's Hibiki, /bbg/'s stealth confederate, and I've run into them a bunch of times too.

Such is life for the late night cooperator.
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>>128843276
All of the NPC hunters in the game that aren't church-affiliated are foreigners that've come to join the hunt, and we certainly don't meet every one of them that's come to the city

That's the handwave used to explain co-op, just like Dark souls 1, where there's countless "Chosen Undead" because every undead is just responding to a prophecy and thinks they're the one it's talking about. Yharnam is flooded with hunters across various worlds, all come to join the hunt, or find paleblood,
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>>128843428
I've actually added Beast Skinner, that's how many times I get him when I ask for help.

Thanks for all your help over all the time, Beast Mang.
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>>128843301

Oh, the trick with that is to delay your dodges. So often the urge to get out makes you mash, but with Ludwig's second phase you really need to pause for half a second, watch the weapon, and dodge accordingly. Especially the vertical slams. Not easy, but necessary. Demands a bit of nerve, or recklessness.

>>128843428
>Character named Beast Skinner
>Wears a pelt
>Spends all his time hunting down beasts

I appreciate the dedication to the character concept.
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>>128843313
Oh you
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How the fuck is Kos a secret

The mensis knew about her

The church had statues of great ones fucking everywhere

How the FUCK is it a secret that the healing church got their fucked up blood from a great one when they actively fellate the fucking things 24/7
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>>128844026
You are thinking on the basest of planes, anon.
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>>128843146
>group of delusional hunters into an organized fighting force with the eternal mandate to kill anything and everything "impure" that they can find, perpetuating the night of the hunt eternally in their quest for imaginary bugs to squish.

Spotted the vermin.
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>>128844026
Wasn't Brygenwyrth violating the hamlet supposed to be the secret?
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>>128844026
Kos wasn't the secret you mong.
The secret was that the Burgers came and fucked the Hamlet people up.
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>>128844026
That wasn't the secret

>>128844227
This was the secret.
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Why does the harrowed set have SUCH GOOD FUCKING STATS. I know it doesnt matter because FashionBorne but still!
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>>128844414
So that minimaxers would look like idiots wearing literal rags for the sake of muh stats
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>>128844414
Harrowed hood is badass

Makes me feel like daredevil
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You bitch niggas wanna say something? Say it to my hunter's face.
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>>128844414

Might be a story element. Harrowed hunters were supposed to look like beggars but were in the end agents of the church and came equipped like them.
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>>128844494
Pretty much

>>128844414
It has like no frenzy resistance though, if you're at high insight and wear harrowed set it's pretty much insta frenzy.
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Anyone know if a breakdown (similar to the ones in the official prima guide) exists for the DLC weapons, particularly the Rakuya? The guide goes into a suprising amount of detail regarding animation frames and damage multipliers, I'd like to see that information for the new weapons as well.
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Research Hall and Fishing Hamlet are supposed to be real, right? As in, they physically exist.
How the fuck do they make sense geographically?
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>>128844904
They aren't next to each other in the real world.
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>These large retard patients
Holy fuck, how were beasts ever a problem? Give these windowlickers a fucking axe and tell them to go ham on all furries.
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>>128844904
Research hall WAS "real". It got sucked into a nightmare.
The hunters nightmare is an adaptation of what is real, the fishing hamlet in the real world is most likely a ghost town.
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>>128844874
look at the OP man
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>>128845041
>the fishing hamlet in the real world is most likely a ghost town.
The fishing hamlet in the real world is the unseen village, dude.
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>>128844904
They're in different, geologically consistent places in the real world, they just are both a part of the Hunter's Nightmare, which doesn't have to make logical sense.
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Question about lost/uncanny version of the base game weapons, do I actually need to own the normal versions or just have their badge in the regular shop to get the uncanny/lost versions?
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>>128844874
Here you go anon http://imgur.com/a/Ir87u
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>>128845076
Oh excellent, thanks
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Posting refined criticism of Bloodborne:
>trophies kill immersion
>have to travel back to the dream to fast travel, doubles loading screen time
>being unable to rest at the lantern to reset the enemies in the area for farming
>R2s are less practical in most situations than they were in previous Souls games, combat becomes a bit simpler
>bosses getting stronger at the end of the fight can be poorly executed, such that they aren't even a threat until they've lost two thirds of their health
>health regeneration for retaliating after taking a single hit means you mash on R1 whenever a weak opponent manages to hit you, and cleanly killing minor opponents is no longer encouraged
>fewer ambushes and beginner's traps, walking around in unfamiliar territory feels less scary than in Souls games
>parrying with firearms that cause stagger is absurdly low risk
>blood vials heal extremely quickly, disastrous for PVP and trivializing a lot of bosses who fail to aggro appropriately when you step back to heal
>weapon viability in PVE varies wildly
>quick stepping makes it more advantageous to play locked on which is less fun
>many bosses are large enough that it's hard to see exactly what moves they're telegraphing, leading you to wail on them and use blood vials when you get hit
>chalice grinding in shitty, samey areas to make weapons PVP viable is sheer bloat to compensate for a fairly short game
I haven't played the DLC by the way.
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>>128844904
There's nothing wrong with those areas.
Transitions between areas in nightmare != same transitions in real world.
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>>128845041
>was
You can see it in yharnam., upper cathedral ward in the main game. In fact, you can't miss it. It wasn't "sucked into the nightmare," it still exists in real yharnam, albeit probably a bit different in reality.

If you look at it from the correct angles, you can see that the '2nd cathedral' in the nightmare is just the tower. It's embedded into a massive mountain face and it has that instead of a lower half.

There's only 2 cathedrals in the nighmare because it's a nightmare. It's all the same structure.
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>>128845309
>trophies kill immersion
honestly does any game come out without trophies now?

like how can that even be a criticism of a specific game
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>>128843428
>>128843594
>>128843786
T-thanks senpai.
You're all cool too.
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>>128844904

Only in the nightmare sense. They are physically related in that you can look down from the Hamlet and see Nightmare Yharnam below you, but of course there's no sense to an ocean being above an open-air town.
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>>128844975
>>128845041
>>128845148
>>128845335

I see, that makes sense.
Thanks for clarifying m80s, I've never been good at putting lore related things together in these games.
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>>128845416
>finally kill a boss
>PREY SLAUGHTERED
>trophy pops up in the corner of the screen
It reminds you that it's a just game. It delegitimizes the satisfaction of overcoming something.
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>>128845631
my question was is that even unique to this game, i dont remember the last time i played a console game and didnt have trophies come up at some point
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Anyone able/willing to help/carry me through orphan of kos? I need to get my punchparasite on. BL 54, pass is bbgkos. Ringing down by his fog
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>>128845774
Comin.
Gonna skin me an orphan.
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>>128845707

Yeah, I don't think devs really have the power to say no to trophies at this point.
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>>128845471
>but of course there's no sense to an ocean being above an open-air town.
It actually makes perfect sense by the game's logic.
The sky and the cosmos are one, the sea is a medium which separates our plane of reality from others and is the bottomless source of "all things that be." There being a realm of reality lying physically and metaphorically above the city, separated by a vast body of water is pretty much the culmination of all the themes the game had been building throughout. It's the game's entire cosmology in a nutshell.

It's worth noting that the entirety of the Hunter's nightmare is covered by this thick, gapless cloud cover that has a bluish tint in places.
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>>128845850
Thanks, really appreciate it
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>>128845707
>>128845861
If memory serves, I heard somewhere that trophies/achievements were less to reward players and more to track progress. For what reason is beyond me, but I'm sure there's some point to doing that.
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>>128845224
anyone?
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>>128845774

suuurreee
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>>128845309
You are too far down the kos(m)hole man, look at what you just posted, what are you doing.
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>>128845960
>trophy for winning 10 hands in poker mini game
>trophy for companion specific quest

if less then 5% of players are getting these achievements they will probably just cut those things from subsequent games
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>>128845906
Shit.
I hope you guys got him.
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>>128846204
Well I certainly didn't. Dunno how the host is doing. Hopefully well.

I like that it scales stats down if you're out of normal summon range, but man, that shit's harsh. My damage feels so poor.
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>>128845850
>>128846204
>>128846313
Nearly had him. Again?
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>>128846372
Ringing.
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>decide to follow arcane guide
>dong my bell for co-op to make hotdog quick
>summon a pizzacutter and a ludwig's blade
>ludwigs dies in lava, pizzacutter gets charged
>not even 75% dead
>standard pthumeru lab
Like... I've done hotdog once before so I managed to finish it but, are people just this bad at the game? Even rushing their meme weapons?
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>>128845631
>It reminds you that it's a just game
This is the most bullshit childish complaint of the millenium.
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>>128845631
>die in dark souls 2
>get a trophy

I mean, it could all be cheeky accomplishments. At least it's not like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5GoDAsYMUs
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>>128846627
I really liked that trophy in DS2, made me giggle.

My friend found out about it and watched a walkthrough to try to put off getting that achievement for as much as possible for hardcore cred.
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>>128846372
You ringing in the hut or at the fog?
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>>128845774

well that came pretty close
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>>128846737
Any true souls vet would've died in the tutorial and learned the hard way that they had suddenly changed the jump button without telling anyone.
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Got that dirty orphan that time. Thanks to everyone who helped, that was close. No vials, no bullets lol
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>>128845309
Warning, large zebra ahead.

>trophies kill immersion
Turn off their announcement in settings.
>have to travel back to the dream to fast travel, doubles loading screen time
This was a bother before load times were fixed.
>being unable to rest at the lantern to reset the enemies in the area for farming
Bold hunter's mark, hunter's mark, kill yourself.
>R2s are less practical in most situations than they were in previous Souls games, combat becomes a bit simpler
Stop spamming R1 constantly.
>bosses getting stronger at the end of the fight can be poorly executed, such that they aren't even a threat until they've lost two thirds of their health
>can be
Post examples. Do you really want no phases in boss fights or bosses getting weaker instead of angrier and stronger?
>health regeneration for retaliating after taking a single hit means ... cleanly killing minor opponents is no longer encouraged
There's no fun in cleanly and carefully killing 30+ samey weak mobs.
>fewer ambushes a ... less scary than in Souls games
No.
>parrying with firearms that cause stagger is absurdly low risk
Balanced by shit damage*, short reach and slower 'reload'.
*no need to post specific blunderbuss build twoshoting madman, specific build will have high damage, normal won't.
>blood vials heal extremely quickly, disastrous for PVP and trivializing a lot of bosses who fail to aggro appropriately when you step back to heal
>boss goes after you when you pop a vial - omg it reads game pad input so unfair
>boss doesn't - omg so trivial to spam vials
Damned if you do, damned if you don't
>disastrous for PVP
It will be daijobu once From fixes lag:^)
>weapon viability in PVE varies wildly
Pure bullshit.
>quick stepping less fun
If it's more fun for you to play unlocked then do it.
Post too long, part 2 if I get bored again.
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>>128846906
Yeah that's where I first died. I'd realised it was changed, it just hadn't converted into muscle memory yet.
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is there a community on ps4 for this game?

fucking ass we can't search for one
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>>128846906
>and learned the hard way that they had suddenly changed the jump button without telling anyone
I fell down the ladder while trying to slide down.
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>>128845309
>trophies kill immersion

It really depends, they only pop up for half a second or so, it can't be that bad. After suffering on a boss, you'd want at least some gratitude or reward for beating it.

>R2s are less practical in most situations than they were in previous Souls games, combat becomes a bit simpler.

R2s can be very practical if you have good timing, especially R2s with long reaching thrust attacks

>bosses getting stronger at the end of the fight can be poorly executed, such that they aren't even a threat until they've lost two thirds of their health

Most bosses will be a threat to people that don't know the moveset, it's to keep you on your toes, adds variety and doesn't make the fight boring.

>fewer ambushes and beginner's traps, walking around in unfamiliar territory feels less scary than in Souls games

Upper cathedral ward
Forbidden wood traps
Chalice Dungeons
Cainhurst

>weapon viability in PVE varies wildly

Almost every weapon is viable in PvE, it also varies in souls game, just look at all the shitty weapon in DaS2, do I really need to remind you of:

Sickles
Scythes
Whips
Most fist weapons
Axes
Great Axes

>quick stepping makes it more advantageous to play locked on which is less fun.

Locking onto enemies will almost always have an advantage, no matter what souls game. It does give an advantage but saying it's "less fun" is just silly since it varies for different players.

>many bosses are large enough that it's hard to see exactly what moves they're telegraphing, leading you to wail on them and use blood vials when you get hit

I can only think of 3 that are like this, i'm sure other souls games have this problem too. Maybe refer to your "quick stepping makes it more advantageous to play locked on which is less fun. "

>chalice grinding in shitty, samey areas to make weapons PVP viable is sheer bloat to compensate for a fairly short game

Agreed. Top tier gems were ruined by RNG.
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Living in UCW as a Choir member would have been so rad. You get to hit on all the religious chicks, read books and acquire eyes. PLus the plce is nice and high up and there's always a peaceful, strong breeze.
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>>128845631
you can turn them off you know. go to notifications
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>>128847153
But the garden is full of fucking aliens.
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>>128847153
Except half of your co-workers are gooey blobby things and the other half are brain-slurping insightivores with floppy feet.

Where would you even stick it in? Do you think you could fuck their brain-spout thing?
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>>128847245
not to mention the literal fucking cthuluspawn living like 500m away from you at any given time
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>>128847245
Good thing I never like gardening. I'd chill on the bridge at the beginning of the area to read, a leg hanging over the edge, swank as fuck white robes flapping in the breeze.
>>128847317
No, there were humans. Like Yurie, and Impostor-chan.
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>>128847153
>watering the lumenflower gardens
>visiting and paying respects to Bri
>brushing the pet scourge beasts
>having parties near the make contact guy every friday

>>128847317
>Except half of your co-workers are gooey blobby things
Don't make fun of harry and louise you cunt. I bet you make fun of Micolash's speech impediment too.
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>>128847245
>Living in the upper ward
>Long night up reading about the cosmos, finally getting to bed
>Fuck o'clock at night
>Right as you're about to get to sleep, you hear, quietly from outside your window
>ayyyyyyyyyyy lmao

God this thought makes my sides hurt so much.
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>>128845309
>>R2s are less practical in most situations than they were in previous Souls games
u wot, bruh have you seen ds1 R2s? Almost all of them are shit and just for show. The ones in bloodborne are 1000% more practical.

>blood vials heal extremely quickly
yet people still die to bosses like any other person. Also if youre facing someone who knows even a little bit about heal parrying youre getting punished hard, I have to run away almost every time to not get parried if I wanna heal which is how it was in other souls games except they backstabbed you.

Also youre not responding to all the other people
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>>128847489
I noticed for the first time the other day that the moon in the hunter's dream is in front of the clouds in the skybox. It's actually just this small thing hanging in the sky below cloud-level.

Pretty nice touch, just subtle enough that you;d never think to look until you already knew
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What is the optimal HMLGS build?
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Defiled amy isn't going to take as long as hotdog is it?
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>>128847491
>Living in Mensis
>can't get to sleep because of the light pollution
>Long night up reading about the cosmos
>Fuck o'clock at night
>Right as you're about to get to sleep, you hear, quietly from outside your window
>awoooooooooo
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>>128847846
That depends entirely on what you want out of it
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>>128847898
Yes.
No.
Maybe.
How the fuck do you expect random anons to answer that when everyone has trouble with different bosses?
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>>128847489
>Everyone always asks if he's made contact yet
>He never responds because he's dead but everyone always laughs and then injects more grey blood
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>>128847846
STR and ARC. Depends on what you're focusing on and what BL.
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I'm at Frontier Amygdala a few levels and upgrades early, someone want to lend me a hand at the boss door? Password is bbg711
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>>128847846

Completely optimal while still saving some points? 50/25/50 str/skl/arc. If you want to do 120 you pick either arc or strength to be 50.
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>>128848029
>>128848139
I was thinking 28/25/25 but I wanna see if my opinion is shit.
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>>128847993
I'd be out all night awooing with him tobehonest.

>>128848067
>they all put christmas and easter decorations on him every year
>it's not even a thing in yharnam
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>>128847993
>have to keep toothpicks on you at all times to skewer the obnoxious eyeball spiders scurrying around everywhere
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>>128848160

it's indeed the night of co-op

what level you at brah i gots all kinds of builds
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>>128848160
Comin senpai
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Any advice for the Ihyll Descendant?
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>>128848264
36, I'm eager as shit to get the loran chalice and beast claws so I can finally have a weapon for my shitty gimmick character, that's why I'm here so low.
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>>128848220
>this nightmare sucks
>bet all these faggots don't even have eyes
>wish I'd stayed in the UCW
>my runes hurt
>should have gone to byrgenwerth with yurie
>adella is way cuter than any of these spiders
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So i'm doing pretty well with defiled amy, except I have no idea how his jump attack works. Am I supposed to run as far as i can from my original spot?
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>>128848160
>>128848264

how embarrassing

skinner will get you through
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So I have a japanese friend and I asked him about the ideal translation to this item's name. The japanase word is 3本目のへその緒, which US version translates to "One Third of Umbilical Corde", possibly an allusion that we have to get three of them. My friend says the best translation would be "Third Umbilical Cord", which doesn't make sense because you are born with only one cord, unless it refers that the mother had three children and this one its of the youngest. However some time later he came to me with another possible translation. He said that '目' is the word for 'eye' in japanese and '3本目' literally means third, so this very well could be a play with words to say "Umbilical Cord of the Third Eye".
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>>128848723

nope. you can either stand still as soon as he starts revving up his jump, or you can walk to wherever the tip of his tail was. both locations will leave you unharmed when he lands.
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>>128848723
You can either roll with timing or stand right at behind where his tail was before he jumps. The latter is much safer, though it needs you to be right up in his crotch to get there safely.
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>>128848739
I'm dead.
Host should clean up, only about 10% left.
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>>128848723
Just turn around and don't move, the jump attack never hits if you don't move, and now you'll be facing it's head. I like to charge R2 as it is about to land and get a free hit
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>>128848772

Puns? From Japanese people? Get outta here.
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>>128848739
Nah, embarrassing was me doing 6 damage to the thing while Skinner was chunking it left and right. Gonna ring for round two if you guys want to give it another go, otherwise I'll hope for randies
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>>128849114
Ringing bruh.
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>>128849114

in it to win it here brah
>>
>kidnappers carry a big bag around
>sometimes they hit you with it
>it hurts really fucking bad

Is... is there already a person in the bag?
Are they hitting you with the body of a captured person?
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>>128849217
Yes.
Yes.
They don't really need people alive, just parts for the ritual.
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>>128849217
No, it's full of boxes of protein powder and growth hormones
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>>128849172
>>128849173
A+
enjoy the pennies while I grind for chalice parts
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>mfw i have just been killing people while they were bowing for the past 4 hours
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Fight club video coming up, no copyright this time. This may take a while
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Is it better to use skill scaling gems or gems that just flat out increase the damage?

I can increase skill scaling on my rakuyo to S but the numbers in the stats are fairly lower, which I assume means just that, it isn't as effective?
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>>128849484
It was dead today. Enjoy your 4 views.
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>>128849643
my video will show you how not dead it was. And considering I have to split it into 2 parts I'd say there was a lot of people
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I like the Beast Cutter but after spending time with it it seems dumb how you can hit someone with a long range spaced R2 but it recovers so slow after a hit that they can get right next to you after it hits. It kinda defeats the purpose of having long range.
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Do people still use the hunters axe? is it viable in pvp and shit? I made a new character for str and I fucking love it. I want to do a father g character.
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>Get my first off shape bloodtinge gem and it's a low tier blood scaling gem
Sad days
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>>128849797
Being this delusional
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>>128819778
>>128820125
>implying 140+ fights get even longer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qmUZIYOppk
yes I know I shouldn't bother replying to an old post but wanted an excuse to post this
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Goodnight /bbg/.
I'll skin things with you tomorrow.
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>Sony sends out an email that says you get a free day to make up for interruptions today

oh that's nice

>You have to take this code to the PSN store and redeem it to get that free day

what the actual fuck

>>128850376

It's pretty good I think. A very simple, straightforward weapon, but good. About the only advanced tech is learning how to use the tricked charged R2 on anyone that isn't braindead.
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>>128847846
I'm at 55arc and 25str. With 19% nourishing gems the beams are goddamn amazing. By far the weapon's best utility for both PvP and PvE. Even then, the untransformed moveset is nice and the damage will be competent. The r2s have ridiculous multipliers and little recovery though so use those lots.

You could just go 50str/25skl and get great mileage out of the regular r1 and r2 chains, but the beam attacks will be pretty pathetic
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>>128848201
Well, a certain tripfag suggests 25/25/25 for HMS, so, it's probably shit.
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>>128850667
Can you explain why arc is worth getting above 50? Is it because the scaling works differently for spells or something?
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>>128850736
I mean, it seems like the most efficient spread for Nourishing gems.
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>>128850825
Yeah, ARC tools scale pretty well even above 50.
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>>128847846
50STR / 25SKL / 50ARC, choose one 50 if you're doing low-test meta shit.

The reason to use the sword though is for the beams, IMO, so get Nourishing Gems and pick 50ARC, and enjoy the other tools as well.
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>>128850825
I dun goofed and took a 40arc wheel build up to 55 because I just badly wanted to try out the Parasite and my 70arc character was sitting at defiled Amy. But basically, Hunter tools scale all the way up to 99. Some tools softcap at 70, and some like a call beyond or tiny Tonitrus actually get increased scaling bonuses past 70 up to 99. For weapons, it softcaps at 50 like the other damage stats but the extra tool utility is nice. The damage is ridiculous
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>>128850984

It's just as well used for the untricked version. But I think it shines most when all parts see use.
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>>128850984
How do people actually get this bloody? Do you go through most of the map killing everything?
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I'll never tire of wheel duels. So aggressive. Especially with ohb
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>>128851314
Yeah, or kill bloodsuckers
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>>128850825
Yeah, in fact the scaling is BETTER above 50.

Here's some reddit nerd's maths.
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>You can stop the memer prematurely by dropping on his ass and blocking the door, forcing him to fight you
Thank, whoever made and posted that webm!
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>tfw forgot to grab the red jelly before advancing into ng+
oh well, amelia isn't too far in.
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>>128846449
I can slightly understand some co-op people dying to the hotdog, because he uses some moves you don't really ever see him use compared to when you're solo'ing him. But he's still easy, and someone with a pizzacutter shouldn't be dying to him outside of defiled.
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>>128849484
Heres the FC vid, part 2 coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3bYipSuj-U
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>>128851471
>scaling is BETTER above 50
Not according to your graph

Tiny Tonitrus, is the only tool that increases at 50. A Call Beyond maintains its base scaling until 70.

For everything else the rates decrease post 50, only to even back out at around 80.

Also that graph makes absolutely no mention of the Moonlight Greatsword, which is what OP was asking about.
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>>128839424
Then who chopped Gehrman's leg off?
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Was loran silver beast meant to be that easy?
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>>128852250
Yes.
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Who actually says kosm?
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>>128852291
some
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>>128852239
I'd guess he probably cut it off himself. Maybe he got bit or maybe he was just being cautious, but since he was the first hunter, he was around during the superstitious times of beasthood creeping up the right leg and special metals warding off an infection that wasn't real.

Shit was fucked in the early hunts.
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>>128852390
Oh I haven't played the dlc, I thought Maria stated that she did it because Gerhman was a rapist.
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>>128852291
Kosm was probably the spelling Micolash's hipster students used.
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>>128852556
>I thought Maria stated that she did it because Gerhman was a rapist.
Why would she cut his leg and not the penis?
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Yo, if Kos died giving birth to the Orphan then why is Micolash praying to her and shit?
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>>128852170
I've got some footage too, about how long should the video be? 8-10 mins?
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>>128852645
Don't know, you guys have been memeing about that for some time.
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>>128852556

Gehrman and Maria never had sex. He never told her that he loved her and she never reacted to that revelation.
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>>128852684
just about
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>>128852660
Because he's a memer and an idiot.
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>>128852660
Lovecraftian monstrosities aren't limited to 3 dimensions and some can't even die.

>That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die
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>>128852170
>that ASGORE remix

sounds weird
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>>128852660
Kos story is interesting. She elevates Rom to a Great One and later tries to have a human child. We don't see this behavior from neither of the other Great Ones, she seemed obsessed with humanity.
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>>128852181
>Also that graph makes absolutely no mention of the Moonlight Greatsword
> Is it because the scaling works differently for spells or something?
Please read
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>can't just spin the gatling gun barrel when empty and no QS bullets

Bravo
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What's the drop chance for off shape gems?
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>>128853706
Ricefields/10
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psn shit itself?
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>>128853706
How many chickens are you willing to sacrifice?
1-2% is usually mentioned.
The really bad part is that RNG affect tier, curse, shape and in case you're mad and farm for other than BLT off shapes secondary stat too.
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>abhorrent beast goes into phase 3 at 70% health
>caught off guard by 4 hit combo
100/10
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>>128853825
>>128853904
Honestly just considering 2x 27.2% phys and a 31.5% blood, big waste of time :(
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>>128852916
She's the only Great One that has human like features, that shit certainly isn't coincidental
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>>128853706
Made this http://pastebin.com/dG6Ny5az

It probably serves no purpose since it's all random but still, might as well do something while farming offshapes.
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>>128854049
Are you refereeing to the Orphan of Kos?
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>>128832042
I went with the beastcutter for a while, but I can never stay away from my old wheel for long.
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>>128854110
Interesting.
Yeah I've done nearly 100 runs so far and got 1 radial
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>>128852170
Don't think I saw a single BoM, is that shit just useless in PvP now?
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>>128854238
Kos herself.
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Anyone up to help me with undead giant il lower pthumeru? BL 67, password is bbs. Ringing at the fog
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>durability down
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>>128854375
Yeah, that seems to be the average you'll get on a stack, I sometimes manage to get 2 or 3 per stack but most of the time they're warm and only increase scaling, making it even rarer to get a good one.
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For rushing Ludwig, is it better to just have Valtr, or should you summon the Madaras Twin as well?
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>>128854573
is that supposed to be bad? I haven't farm CD yet but I use all durability down from Mensis cursed gems.
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FUCK YOU YOU STUPID BASTARD HAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA

GO HOME TO YOUR DEAD MOTHER FUCKING ORPHAN SHIT
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new
>>128854740
>>128854740
>>128854740
>>128854740
>>128854740
new
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>>128854662
Valtr is pretty badass by himself, the first time I fought Ludwig I decided to send him home because he was trivializing the whole thing.
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Hey fucker you want some blood?
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>>128854459
No need anymore, got helped by someone.
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>>128854439
>human like features
you having a giggle m8?
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>>128854689
>is that supposed to be bad?
It is for weapons with shitty durability since it decreases much faster.
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>>128854812
Who is he?
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What weapon other than Ludwig's scales good with both STR and SKL?

I fucked up my first character by trying to focus on too many weapons, so I ended up with 42 SKL and 34 STR, which results in every bossfight going like this:
>use non-Ludwig weapon for 2 hours straight
>no damage
>fine, fuck it
>use Ludwig's
>finish bossfight on 2nd or 3rd try

I'm too far in and don't want to start a new character just for this.
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>mfw I thought he was Gherman in my first playthrough
>on NG+ I realize that he's the corpse that the first beast you fight is chewing on
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>>128855925
There are a shitton of Quality weapons, I'd recommend the MLGS or Church Pick.
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>>128854689
>Start boss fight
>Weapon breaks halfway through
I stay away from durability down hpdown and atk down like the plague.
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>Fucking twoshot by Living failure as he surprised me with a swing, but when I got behind him he got me again
wow
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>>128855991
I forgot to link the post:
>>128854812
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At what point do I stop with arcane on a BoM build?

I'm thinking 20, 25 seems like a waste but have access to TinyTon.

I've already got 50 in Skill, 30 in Vit and 25 in End.
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