- Cloud Strife from Final Fantasy VII is now available as a downloadable fighter.
- Corrin from Fire Emblem Fates is set to arrive as a downloadable fighter sometime in February.
- Bayonetta is set to arrive as a downloadable fighter sometime in February.
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Hey guys, Pearl here.
Sorry that the genesis stream wasn't in the synchtube. It's there now (here's the retarded paste bin link: http://pastebin.com/Qjf4ngfJ)
Hope you guys enjoy!
by the way you should all kill yourselves, especially the furfags.
I am never posting here AGAIN
So I just got SSBWU, including the Wii U, and I'm by no means a tourneyfag, I couldn't name a single pro player of any era. But my point here is, I've been playing a lot of Samus and I'm doing quite well. She feels very strong, not top 10 strong but pretty damn good. Then I decided to look online at what other people thought. She's in the bottom 5 of every list I could find. Nobody will elaborate why, all I can seem to get from people is "Dude lol she has HUGE problems...". Can anybody elaborate?
Oh boy a casual player trying to start a discussion about tiers, this will surely be a great and knowledgeable experience for everyone involved
reminder that sakurai claimed that samus was the best character in the game in the early builds
the only way to reliably kill someone as samus is to charge shot them, do it always
>down tilt turns into a down smash
>game freezes as the up tilt turns into GAME
It's okay Regi, it happens to all of us
Dash attack can kill from about 180%
I know from experience
To be as succinct as I can, she has terrible and weird hitboxes, far too many sourspots, and low kill potential
and I love playing her.
GnW in a vacuum is relatively strong, but he loses to Sonic and Rosa 30:70. GnW is a reactionary character with extremely few safe-on-shield buttons besides his slow U-smash, so he can neither get Sonic to sit down nor remove Luma safely. The Fox MU is similarly bad for the same reason, and altogether those three basically delete him from the character select screen.
jesus christ you have to have some fuckass dial-up to lag with Smash 4. I had a bunch of torrents running with a stream playing and theres never any lag for me, and my internet is mediocre.
Yeah, GW can upsmash to counter spindash but Komo is way too good and patient to go in without knowing he has a near guaranteed chance to get a hit. It's definitely no coincidence he picked up Cloud considering how optimized his defensive play is with Sonic.
>There's good reason to believe most if not all of it was done intentionally
I don't mean this as a jab at Nintendo, but dumb shit such as that seems exactly like something Nintendo would do. See: The sole purpose for blue shells in MK series is "so sometimes the weakest player can win randomly"
There's actually an in game tip that tells Samus's jab is garbage
>Foes can often put up their shields in between the first and second hits of this combo. It's safer to just hit with the first attack and then flee.
Ok fine, I actually forgot to consider him. But if I put him in my list, I'll have to get rid of Fox, and Fox is DEFINITELY top 10.
I'll consider him number 11 for now.
>mfw my favorite characters are never on anyone's tier list
Got 3 for dubs, need one more. Anyone interested? Room's up.
Casuals and Reddit are fully convinced Dark Pit is better cuz muh ZeRo and muh Nairo said so.
So? we've been over this, it's better than it was before, but Pit can still kill just as fine and has way better arrows.
Don't be fuccbois and fix your opinions already.
Sky Williams shoehorned himself in the Smash community by housing numerous people in his stupid ass weenie hut.
That way he expanded his "product" which is his flamboyant gay self onto another game. I want this League of Legends trash to leave.
Neat games Logan
Anyone else wanna play for like a half hour or so before I regret the rest of my life's choices?
Fuck you, guy I wanted one more game against Ryu. I have absolutely no idea how I'm supposed to get out of shield against your jab or elbow into collarbone breaker.
If you're shielding the utilt just drop shield and jab, collarbone breaker is slow as fuck
USA'S BEST VS JAPAN'S BEST
MY DICK CAN'T HANDLE THIS
LET'S FUCKING GO JAPAN
That's what I was thinking but clearly I was doing something wrong since it happened in that second to last game. Hopefully I don't run into a Ryu tomorrow because I am not ready.
Sky really does the whole "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME IM GAY IM GAY" thing, huh? How annoying.
Top 20 in order:
Pit/DPit (same shit)
What I've seen from Japan's play has moved Villager above Mario and Fox, and the Pits above Ike.
Melee players like creative crazy fast paced games with high potential skill ceilings
I hate to talk shit on any smash game fanbase (unlike a lot of other people here apparently) but Smash 4 fans seem like they only bought it because they already had the Wii U.
>Pit without gimps
>better than Pit with gimps
>Cloud comes out
>Actually have fun with the game again
>Actually put effort into playing
>Do some really local stuff and play a ton with friends
>Do really well actually
>Go online and my winrate is 40% higher than it was before he came out.
I'm still bad and half of what I said doesn't even matter, but, I'm happy right now with how things are turning out. Ever since Snack was removed, I've felt no urge to really play it. I have to admit, he's my favorite addition to the roster easily, and I hope he comes back for 5.
He'll be the first one gone I'm sure. Also link me some resources, I want to learn more.
>only having fun with a game because you start winning by using a crutch character
>Putting Pit before Dark Pit
Good job anon, This is a tierlist i can get behind.
But Robin should be a little higher, and Ness should be at the top of B tier
They all look the same to me. I notice everyone uses the Red Cloud online though. It doesn't really matter though, I usually just cycle through them.
Miss Cloud never
I'd be having fun regardless of if I was winning or not.Winning is just a nice bonus to the situation. I literally had no fun with Smash 4 when it came out and dropped it like a potato for the longest time. Cloud is just
funfor me to use.
Man, japan played so fucking good, they deserved the win more than anyone else, their matches were super entretaining to watch, i'm so glad so many japanese people came to play at this tourney
Luigi is still a pretty good character despite the nerfs.
DK's ding dong is just that good.
Shulk got buffs, hence why he isn't lower than he already is.
I always thought BJ and DDD are a bit underrated to me. BJ has a great projectile game while D3 has great edgeguarding tools.
Palu is bottom tier because she sucks.
There are rank modes and ways to organize squad battles, online can be very competetive. For offline tournaments just connect them all to the same network with a LAN adapter, thats what Bill said how the treehouse tourney was run
GGs dubs, too tired to continue. It's been fun.
she has messed up hitboxes. she has no kill confirms. she has atrocious endlag on that grab with minimal relative reward for landing one. she has no kill throw. she has high endlag on most of her moves. the few moves she has that some people would say are good (like upb, charge shot, and others) have their own serious drawbacks
ggs dubs. I'm starting to feel it with shittier play each game.
>anyone but his emo gayboi lover Vincent's homie
>not a hardass
>mega"caring and pacifist personality" man
Reminder that Cloudfags are this dillusional and have no knowledge of anything that doesn't hoist a overcompensating sword around.
>There are rank modes and ways to organize squad battles, online can be very competetive.
For online matches, it's a TEAM game and it doesn't even offer voice chat. This is a game that was made to be competitive you say?
>For offline tournaments just connect them all to the same network with a LAN adapter, thats what Bill said how the treehouse tourney was run
You can't do this because even with a LAN adapter you STILL need to go online.
>fully customizable waifu
i honestly can't blame you anon, who wouldn't?
I know. Just saying people who think Splatoon was made to be competitive is full of shit. You'd think the developer saying that he didn't add voice chat because people online hurt his feelings would be proof enough.
Two the other two or three people in this thread doing this shit, how is it going so far?
>tfw I'm starting to regret not picking up a Jap player
At least my whole roster made it past the first round.
I will forever find this cringy.
he's worse then the chink.
>Wasting money on keitaro
Which players were un the Florida Crew
How many stocks did México had when they beat them
How was Japan vs Mex
How was Ranai vs Zero
Who killed Zero with how many stocks?
How was Japan vs Zero's Crew?
>tfw everyone figures out that Meta Knight isn't shit and you're considered a tier whore AGAIN after Brawl
>Replying at all
You possibly fell for his trap.
Just look at hoody
People who rage and make genuinely salty posts ALWAYS get at least 10+ posts of stupid meme reaction images, the fuck are you talking about
If you're talking about actual cancer like panshito and cha-"i hate my mom"-zo then yeah i dunno, they circlejerk enough with others
I really want to try and git gud at Sm4sh. I looked through the pastebin, and read the Peach Primer, I think I want to give her a shot. I'm still sort of new though. Is there any good videos, or something for the general basics of the game? So I can start gitting gud. I can't find a good general tutorial and all that. I have a lot of time off, and so I'm thinking of just dedicating it to being better at this game. I might want to play Bayo or Corrin next month too.
This can help you get started, as for the peach stuff you can try watching players like EOE, Slayerz and umeki.
those are heavily outdated, there's probably a peach guide on smashboards.com
there's actually a bunch of guides there, also check out the forums, there's some good posts there
also start following some youtube channels and watching competitive gameplay
some channels that post guides and stuff sometimes are mysmashcorner, beefysmashdoods, and tourney locator
also start playing good players and asking for advice, smashladder.com is a good place to start
Thanks, I'll watch those videos now and then look for a peach guide on smashboards.
I was watching some competitive play, and then EOEs combo video. I figured I should stop practicing those though, and try and get a firmer grasp on the overall basics. I was also considering Kirby, I don't see either character as much and they seemed fun.
Although I've seen mentions of Peach being very technical
Alright thanks, I'll give them all a watch, and take things kind of slow. If she's too technical, are there any characters you might recommend that may be a little easier to adjust into to start? One of the February characters is my end goal probably Bayo
You mean like beginner easy to play characters? There's Mario, Pit, Kirby, Falcon, Villager to name a few. While they are easy to pick up characters they can be kind of hard to master.
>zero only plays top tier broken characters
>played MK in brawl
>played Diddy Kong in sm4sh
>now plays Sheik
>people still thinks he's good
He knows the character/matchup more. He goes to a shit ton of games so of course he would.
Doesn't make him good, else anyone who knows their character or matchup more would be the best.
Anybody ever been labbing with a character and have it just devolve into trying to find the least useful but most over the top setups for no real reason? Shit's fun yo.
Who said this was specifically to pique your sense of humor? I'm just posting these because there's hardly any activity currently.
Also I just found these on Twitter, can't take credit for these
/sssbg/ what's your most ironic kill?
>Kirby who would short-hop and air-dodge instantly
>kill him and finish the game with uair
Look tightwad, I don't have anything to discuss at the time. It's 9 AM and I'm up before I usually am. Genesis isn't on yet. The only conversation stimulator I have right now are these pictures, and if you're so keen on being against them why not contribute a better topic instead of shooting this down?
Has your internet connection gotten any better?
Don't mind me, just invading this conversation.
Step away from my man.
No idea what you are talking about, but you sound pretty gay senpai.
Cool stuff, I'm sure you will.
You had a hard time beating my link though, how'll you manage anyone else
I'm busy showing my ex-bitch who's boss.
What was supposed to show me, the 1st or the 31st volleyball?
What was supposed to hit me, the 1st or the 31st arrow?
>pretending I was throwing out arrows
>when i was letting myself die from your 62nd sun salutation
Just give up, you can't even handle a rusty Pac-Man.
>you lose a stock
>it starts lagging
You actually beat my Ganondorf with Cloud.
By the way, nice lag switch.
>going for the reverse warlock punch
>and then getting spiked
>gets the finishing touch into taunt true combo
>proceeds to SD
By the way, nice job almost walking into a Falcon Punch.
>SD because of the lag
>Decide "Nah, I can take this whore."
>Proceed to win with one stock
>Sluts goes in the thread and says I'm lag switching
In conclusion you're so free I switched to meme characters and I still kicked your fat ass.
>win with one stock
You only won because we were resting each other and I missed because the hitbox is shit.
ggs, fuck you, I'm not free.
Wait till Corrin is out, I'll be two stocking you.
Well maybe a little but you're a bigger one
s-stop, this isn't smashbros talk
I'd smash you, bro.
...Which is what makes him better.
Your argument is retarded.
If everyone played broken characters, it would be completely random who wins because not one of them is good, since they're all relying on the broken character, yet every one of them is as broken as each other
>we're on prism tower again
I DIDN'T KNOW
I COULDN'T HAVE KNOWN
anywho next is last for me bb. need some coffee and shit
ya, because you're relying on the character to win, if they were good they could play any other character and win.
knowing how ot play a broken character doesn't make you good, it makes you a faggot
>TFW no grudge matches between /ssbg/ were the loser changes his tag to "____'s bitch" or loses money
So why does Zero consistently beat other people who play the same character as him? If they're both simply relying on how good the character is, both of them should be just as likely to win, since they're both as broken as each other
ggs, it was a ton of fun. woke me right the fuck up
we need a competition of all the lucas players in ssbg, there are like 5 or 6 i think
I don't think you know how Brawl Meta Knight worked
If everyone played broken characters (let's say Brawl Meta Knight), it would NOT be completely random who wins. It'd be up to the best Meta Knight to win, seeing as they're using the same character.
That's what I'm trying to say. Zero is good because both of the character he plays, and because he's better at using her. The other guy is who you should be saying this to, because he believes Zero is bad and only relies on Sheik's brokenness to win
>using broken characters doesn't makes you good
That's true. However, playing a bad character can hold good players back. What makes a character good is (usually) having multiple good options in most situations.
I'm just saying this for people to see, not to argue with you because there is obviously no way to make you change your mind.
I literally copy pasted my Youtube folder.
Fuck logging into Youtube
Anyone? Play video games with me please.
>watching crew battles
>that Rosalina from SoCal that lost 3-0 with against Villager
Even just one stock would've been enough for ZeRo to clutch a victory, how do you fuck up so badly.
but i work every saturday after today
Olimar, M2, Marth
MK, Kirby, Samus
Every time I play somebody they leave.
Regardless of whether win or not.