/ddg/ - Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen General

Ya missed the pawn sheet. Oh well, next time.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/150pTBJ-IJ8ktH3mzObUI5pA4Rzsh88rfgFpwZf9wxe8/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

Has there been a better ENB/reshade posted than the two in the pastebin yet?

Can I go straight 10-200 ranger on my main pawn, or should I mix in fighter/warrior for more health and augments?

>>128623469
There was an ENB guide or something posted in the last thread. I didn't get to look it over though so I dunno what it's worth.

Would making a Steam group that makes announcements or events or whatever when the Ur Dragon's Grace Period is ongoing be useful?

>>128623639
Probably, GameFAQs has kept up the mantle for PS3 but I think they lapsed on 360 and I doubt they're too interested in starting up for PC.

I just checked my stash at the inn and I have an infinite ferry stone, how the fuck did that get in there?

>>128623469
>>128623606
Here, I found the guide:

http://pastebin.com/1e9vWFUU

>>128623639
Go for it, maybe some of the old guard of GameFAQs will join up.

>>128623759
everyone gets it

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>11 more hours

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Can you only make one pawn? And will amazon have steam codes on release? I have this gift card sitting around that I could use.

>>128623262
much better thread, thanks OP

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>Go to Temple of the Water God on my Ranger
>Takes all of my stamina to take a lizard to 3/4th life
>Jump on my equal level Sorceror
>One High Levin takes the same monster down to half health and consumes only a fourth or fifth or so of my stamina

>Enter underground cavern on my Ranger
>A bunch of spooky skeletals spawn, along with two skeleton sorcerers.
>Meticulously pick off sorcerers, arrow spam and kite for a while to kill the skeletons

>Enter same cavern as my equal level Sorcerer
>Clear the room with one High Miasma

So does this gap ever bridge itself? I feel like my Sorcerer is leagues beyond my Ranger in power. They're two different saves so they're roughly equal in level (17ish). I don't know whats causing such a huge rift in damage, but its incredibly disconcerting.

Oh and for fun:
>Enter either situation on my equal level warrior save. Fireball from offscreen wipes out half my health. Turn to face sorcerer and the second sorcerer's fireball smacks off the other half.

A mod that makes High Bolide shoot down 100 meteors

That's the only thing I need in my life

Recommend me a pawn for assassin.

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>>128623660
>Waste of money, cheaper cards can do the same
Not with mods I'd wager. DD isn't terrifically optimized when it comes to that sort of thing.

>>128623895
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/macahq9n0pm34/Reshade
http://imgur.com/a/8WJjE
Press the home key or open McFX.cfg to toggle AO in v2. For performance in v1/v2 you can disable the depthbuffercalc in Common.cfg for a few FPS if you don't want depth effects(AO/DOF). In v3 I think I have it turned off already.

Read v3's readme if you want to try that one, it's kind of what I'm using though I updated it a bit, I think I just made greens less green and added spherical tonemapping. v4 will include ENB but only if I can figure out how to isolate AO and get more performance, I'm sitting at a silky 53fps in combat which is unplayable.

>At Level 43
>Half way done with the main quest
>Bored as fuck

Godamn,I mean I don't know what to really do, I almost want to just start over but I'll have to do that shitty escort quest and hundred other quests that I hate.

Godamn

>>128623250
>>128623567
>>128623696
Oops, I didn't even check the thread before linking it, but it seems someone already posted a "Quick Spellcasting" cheat not too long ago.

nth for 6 skill warrior should be piss easy to mod in, just make longswords and warhammers have the same properties as staffs where they can have 6 skills

>>128624236
Finish the main quest, do some sidequests if you feel like it, and then move onto the expansion content.

>>128623581
>>128623581
>>128623581
Pls guys pls

>>128624429
You're going to have to start over anyway.

>>128624429
>the expansion content.

O-Oh wait there's more? But I'm sorta sick of my short haired gyaru warrior, I might just make a loli

>>128624541
I'm not experienced but I think warrior 10-50 or so would be nice for dat strengh + defensive augments

>>128624541
Ranger only gets what, 1 less physical attack than Warrior? Just level them Ranger.

>>128624597
>I might just make a loli

Finish the game then completely rehaul what your character looks like, that way you don't have to do the early quests over again

>>128624597
If you beat the main game, you can buy an item that lets you infinitely redo you and your pawn's appearance.

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what the fuck is it about into free that's so magical

>>128624597
Yes, there's the postgame that takes place after you finish a big event in the story, and then after that there's a new area you can travel to that was added with Dark Arisen. It's pretty difficult.


As >>128624548 said though, you might have to restart tomorrow if you want to use the online features.

>>128624774
It's barely coherent gibberish about a feeling of awesome. And being a bullet I think?

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>>128623262
get excite for the boat arc afterward

>>128624891
They got off the boat tho

Alright I pirated this but if I were to get this on Steam, what are the online features that would make the purchase worth it?

>>128624936
For now

>>128624936
>>128625013
>they realize it's the wrong place and get back on for another nine years

>>128624971
pawns that will no doubt already know how to play catch the deer

>>128624971
Pawn trading is worth it. Not needed surely, but it's worth it.

>'Tis weak to fire!
What did Rook mean by this?

>>128624971
You can hire other peoples pawns and Vice-versa

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>>128625057
>pawns that will no doubt already know how to play catch the deer

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>It's going to unlock at midnight anon, I promise

Whoever told me this earlier, go jump off a bridge

>>128625057
Is it bad that this might be the first thing I do?
Do I just keep throwing it at him until he throws it back?

Any way to rebind keys like 'ESC' and 'Return' on the PC?

>>128625246
but it is, just not midnight your time

Why do pawns say that Goblins are weak to fire and ice when they're equally weak to just about every other damage type? Why not "Goblins are Weak, Arisen, do whatever the fuck you want"?

>Playing without any ENB or Reshader
>CPU is working it's ass off, capping out at 100%
>Have to drop to 30FPS to cool my processor off
>Load up the latest ENB
>GPU takes a load off the CPUs back
>Back up to 60FPS

Fucking sweet.

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>pirate leak
>play for many hours with warrior
>decide to get strider because what the hell, let's see what it's like
>mfw sprint

Jesus Christ, I already know what I'm rolling on launch.

>>128625319
>having a shitty CPU cooler

>>128625246
You know you can check on the store's page, right?

>>128625294
If goblins are weak to everything they're not wrong

So I never played DA on consoles, if I wanted to get the Ring of Perseverance as soon as possible, could I just head right to it relatively early on, grab it, then come back to Gran Soren and go about the normal story or are you stuck on BBI until you finish it? Is this even a feasible thing to do relatively early in the game?

>>128625324
>2016
>rolling as strider


Just pick assassin, literally the superior version.

>Character appearance can be changed later on.

When and where?

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>>128625319
This gives my i3/780 setup hope.

>>128625380
Yeah, I know. Jammed some decent hardware into a case that was a bit too small for the job so everything gets a bit hot.

Oh well, point is it's working great.

>>128625319
You forgot to mention the part where you waited 15 seconds for a new area to load

>>128625469
Barber shop in gran mind you, you can't change like body shape and what not.
hair, brows, facial hair, skin color and somethin else but thats it.

Is Mitigator or Challenger preferred for Fighter pawns?

Will pure physical assassins do shit damage against online Ur dragon? Should I do hybrid for the holy damage?

>>128624307
fuck yeah

>>128625515
Loading the game itself definitely takes longer, everything else seemed okay though.

>>128625469
Hairstyle, hair colour, makeup, and skin at Grand Soren.

If you go back to the encampment a guy will sell you secret of metamorphosis, which opens the character creator again, full customization.
(I can't remember if you can change name/gender though)

What did I need Kept Sour Ambrosial Meat for again? I remember it being important on the console version.

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>>128625543

Someone here knows if its possible to change Assigned skills with Cheat Engine?
I imagine that you could change skills on the fly then with Autohotkey thus having more skills avaialbe, I already have it so that every skill is just 1 button press instead of modifer+key. Now if we could make that
>"ChangeAdreessStuffinCE"+modiferdown+attack+modifierup
then we could have every skills there is for a weapon in combat.

>>128625423
I may be wrong so if someone else knows better, please correct me but I believe the Duskmoon Tower where the Ring is located is very very early into BBI. You may be able to get there at a low level to grab the ring.

>>128625760
Don't forget about moonbeam gems.

Does this game unlock at a set global time or local? Like if I set my VPN to new Zealand can I unlock early?

>>128625578

Wasn't there a recommended assassin skill that does Holy damage?

I can't remember its name,

>>128625442
If I get Mad Dash on Strider, can I use it on Assassin?
If so, I sure will.

>>128625860
universal 1pm est

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>buying Ferrystones the entire time
>rummage around in storage
>Eternal Ferrystone

>>128625423
You can go back to Gransys, but do you know where is the ring? If you never played the expansion you probably will have bad time getting it

>>128625971
[head temperature rises]

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>started NG+
>3 hours in
>nothing new has happened
Whoever said NG+ was different is a liar

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So i found the salvation robes and put em on thinking just maybe Elysion wouldn't notice me but, i guess i was hoping too much when i had 3 pawns not wearing the robes with me.

Then having to kill some defenseless shit otherwise mason would throw a fit.
Lucky i put up with your shit mason.

>>128625971
how many ks have you spent by now?

About to turn in Trials and Tribulations, are there any quests besides Conspirators that I need to do first?

already finished griffins bane so I assume this starts a new stage

>>128625656
>(I can't remember if you can change name/gender though)
Yes to both

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just messin round with webms

>>128626078
sir theres a spacemuhreen in your game

i was so desperate to kill time i played Pony Island

don't do that. it was a bad idea

>>128625712
>I already have it so that every skill is just 1 button press instead of modifer+key
Huh, dunno why I didn't think of this. I went back to controller because using modifiers for skills was pissing me off but with AHK I could use my TERA keybinds for everything. That'd be nifty.

Not sure about your original question, but thanks for the idea anon.

>>128626184
nice

>try the "last date modified" button on the spreadsheet
>it asks me for permission while mumbling something about "8ch's DDDA pawn list"
>even after accepting, it still does nothing
I'll just put today date manually.

>>128626234
hi vinny

Any benefits from putting this on a SSD? Running out of space on there

>>128626184
God damn my PS3 playthrough was mostly as a fighter and I wanted to try something different for the PC release but I forgot just how much fucking fun this was.

>>128626317
whose vinny

>>128626383
no, load times are already nearly instant

>>128625423
A'ight, so here's the deal. You need to do three things:

>Get to Duskmoon Tower
>Get the key for the next area with the Warrior's Respite zone
>Get to Warrior's Respite and grab the Moonbeam Gem

First and last parts are easy peasy. It's getting the key that's rough.

So enter the first room of BBI, go ahead and run past everything and down into the courtyard. Death shows up. Run off to the right and follow the path to a door. Now you're in Duskmoon Tower.

Now the hard part. Somewhere down and to the right is another door, you'll be going in here to get the key. Enter, follow the path around and around sprinting past now much harder enemies until you get to the next door. Enter the gorecyclops room

You will want to enter the main chamber then run forward and start climbing up. At the very top is the key next to a chest. If you've been looting you may have found a wakestone, if so drop all the way down to your death, revive, and sprint out. Otherwise good luck climbing back down. Either way this part will likely take multiple tried.

Now back to Duskmoon, ahead and to the right should be a locked door. Open it and enter. From here walk straight forward and climb the stairs up towards the Warrior's Respite. Search around the Respite, it's a safe area, until you come across the Moonbeam Gem (I think it was near a desk among some clutter©]. Now head back to Duskmoon.

Go to your left until you reach another door that leads to two sealed doors. Open the one on your right, enjoy your ring.

>>128625712
Request it in the CE thread anon.

>>128626246
For bow users I have a setup that uese their melee skills with 1 button and If I hold thumbbutton it switches to SecondaryBow mode, makeing Leftmouse shoot and those the same skill button from before into the secondary skills. I think this works well for shields too

Basicly removed 1 modifer

For mages I have 6 keybinds for every spell without releasing the modifer and then thumbutton is there to release it or change into aim mode when I hold it and then cast upon button release.

makes it much more fun cause I can aim everything with mouse and don't have this weird controller combinations I have to press.


I think Bow/Staff could be weird though, havnt tested that yet with either.

>>128626554
if you've found a lifstone you can also use that to nope out of the goreclops room

>>128626037
A lot of people have been calling "NG+" what should be known instead as "post-game".

Post-game is when everything gets crazy, for lack of a better vague term. It isn't an actual restart of the game and the genuine NG+ is just the same ol' thing.

>>128626418
Same, I was thinking about trying a sorcerer this time but I'll probably just end up as an assassin, fighter or strider again.

The huge spells are amazing but it just doesn't compare to the gameplay of the faster classes.

>>128625423
this is a standard thing that experienced players do, in fact you can get 2 or more ring by restarting on hard mode if you plan to play on hard mode. but you will probably be pretty lost if you don't know the layout of BBI

>>128560263

>kill first cyclops
>cyclops

>drops 3 misshapen eyes

cyclops

>>128626861
cuck

>>128626863
maybe they were some weird serial killer

>>128626554
Oh man, thanks a bunch. I was trying to figure out how I needed to get there through the maps on the wiki and I didn't even know about the key I'd need to pick up.
>>128626839
Yeah, the maps help but I'm having a hard time visualizing where I'll need to go since I've obviously never seen it. So we'll see how well this goes.

I only have a lenovo y580 laptop with me right now. To all piratebros, how well does this game run? If you have, say, a ~5 year old desktop, does it run well for you?

>>128627043

there is a video on youtube with some neet getting the ring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evon6YpUcMA

>>128625880
mad dash is strider only

also don't listen to that guy, strider is better than assassin

Good morning good morning, /ddg/.

How are you going to spend the next 11 hours?

>>128627096
>MT Framework
>implying it's somehow not capable of running on everything

Some anon ran it on a Surface Pro getting consistent 30FPS at 720p, and yet another ran it in wine on a Celeron with 2GB of RAM a couple threads back. It ran like shit, but it ran

You're fine

>>128627368
sleeping you non amerifat.

So I read that you're able to add augments from other vocations. My question is, when is the best time to gain ranks on other vocation?

For example, I plan on going with a fighter build, even though I'll only use my dp for fighter skills or other class augments, when I level up, I still inherit the level up stats of that particular vocation I'm currently on, right? So it would be useless to gain any levels as a mage or sorcerer due to their low stat growths and such.

Do I just have to wait until I'm max level?

>>128627190
buying a lifstone from barroch is a good idea that will save a lot of trouble

>>128627403
cheers, m8

>>128623262
Anyone got solid info on the Berserk DLC? I read that the Cheat engine guys can't find the item ID's and are saying it was removed from the game completely.

>>128627368
Playing pirated version and eating

>>128627405
for maximum minmax wait until lvl 200
if you arent a faggot though you can get them whenever because equipment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stats

>>128627405
Whenever you feel like it. Don't worry about the stats so much, it's not going to make any real difference. Minmaxing is for people who've played the game to death already and have nothing better to do.

>>128627485
Last I read the item IDs were found but they'd been corrupted and crashed the game upon equip.

>>128627405
If you want to meme-max, you'll either want to keep the augment grinding until you're level 200, or if you're truly aughtistic you can switch vocations every time you're about to level up, so the vocations still get XP but you only get the stat gainst from the "right" vocation.

Or, if you're not retarded, you can just grab your desired augments ASAP so you don't have to spend all game playing a class other than the one you want to play. The only "downside" to this is that your stats will probably end up a bit more balanced.

>>128627485
The item IDs and descriptions are still in the game, but they're not equippable items and as far as anyone knows the models and textures were removed, so you can't actually use them.

>>128627594
>Minmaxing is for people who've played the game to death already and have nothing better to do.
>Played the game to death on console
>Building for balanced Def/MDef
>Mix in Warrior for that sweet HP
>Stack Sanctuary on top of that
>Fuck offense it'll be fine enough

I WILL BE INVINCIBLE!

Minmaxing really is just for veterans who want to fuck around, it's truly unnecessary.

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>pick pawn voice
>literally no way to tell what he actually sounds like in dialogue
>sounds like that huge Cloud District faggot from Skyrim

Shoot me in the god damn face

>>128627890
Next time cycle through the expressions, they'll talk when you do with whatever voice you've selected.

>>128627539
>>128627663
>>128627594
Ah alright, I wont think about too much then.

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What outfit is this? Need it for my amazon.

>>128627890
>choose a voice
>go to edit details
>choose makeup option or anything that switches to close up of face
>hit the facial expressions button a few times and your character will speak

>>128626861
http://imgur.com/a/fzQOF

I'm not going to miss these shitty ps3 quality screenshots

>>128627812
are you me? i've been spreadsheeting DEF builds for the last two days

honestly people are asking the wrong question. if you want to "succeed" in the game at launch, you should ask >HOW DO I MINMAX MY PAWN<, and now how do i minmax my character that no one will ever see

>>128628041
I suddenly regret spending 30 Euros on this

Are those armor types common

I was told that armor in this game is legit authentic western armor

>>128627594
Anything worth doing, is worth doing right.

>30 dollars

Haha nah

>>128627937
>>128628069
Thanks pals

>>128628137
they are not common. that is meme armor

>>128625324
>>mfw sprint
is that an extra button or does it replace dash?

>>128628192
poorfag spotted

>"Sharply increases the cumulative damage wrought by your poison attacks." (increases chance of inflicting poison, not damage)

Do only assassins have poison attacks?

>>128628153
Playing how you want is doing it right. I guess if you want to autismally minmax then go for it, but I feel like some people are getting the impression that they have to when that's really not the case at all.

>>128628192
Being this poor
Haha nah

>>128628153
fwiw minmaxing pawn AI takes like a game's worth of training and good examples

if you play a bunch of shit classes that you don't intend to while ignoring your pawn's AI you will fail to minmax the only thing that is actually seen by other people

I really like playing warrior but I can't stand the retarded looking designs of all the swords.

Like everything except the standard two handed sword looks like absolute overdesigned garbage. I'd have loved to use Guts' sword but since they removed that it's not longer an option.

>>128628245
phew

thanks anon

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>>128628103
>all those artifacts

God damn, how did you consolefags deal with it when this general was active back in the day?

>>128628137
Those are not common. Waifufags will go out of their way to get them, but pretty much every set looks stylish and practical

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>playing for first time as Strider
>climb on ogres back to stab it
>

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>>128628442
>every set looks stylish and practical

>>128628532
Your mom is stylish and practical

>>128628110
>are you me? i've been spreadsheeting DEF builds for the last two days
Ha! I usually like to build more for defense in games anyhow, but when I found out character defenses count for double versus armor defenses I knew it was meant to be.

It's not perfect, but I came up with a simple L100 build that let me play a variety of classes I enjoy while providing juicy defensive stats:

http://stackoverflow.github.io/dragons-dogma-stat-planner/#am0a0000230014190000000000000000000000

>1-10 Mage
>10 in Fighter
>20 in Sorcerer
>25 in Mystic Knight
>35 in Warrior

>3448 HP and 327 Def/MDef

I'm sure it could be optimized, this was just kind of slapped together.

>if you want to "succeed" in the game at launch, you should ask >HOW DO I MINMAX MY PAWN<
Agreed, and even that has more to do with incliniations training and skill selection than stats.

>>128628137
Some people really do get offended by nothing.

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>>128628137
>I was told that armor in this game is legit authentic western armor

haha what

>>128628110

Now to find how to minmax my ranger pawn.

>tfw starting as a Fighter with means of ending up at Warrior
>tfw deciding to go Assassin when getting to Gran Soren because why not
>tfw Assassin is crazy fun

Fuck I don't know if I want to switch to Warrior now

>>128628442
>God damn, how did you consolefags deal with it when this general was active back in the day?

We hated it.

Worst part was the game itself looked better, the screenshots were auto-compressed and you had to have a Facebook account to retrieve them.

Taking our own screenshots is the best unintended feature of the PC release.

im using a ps4 controller and whenever i accept the setting to turn on xbox360 controls, it reverts back to keyboard. does anyone know how to fix this?

How can I see if my level is high enough for some items?

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>>128628442
We had to use bow tricks to make the photos not look like it was taken using a calculator.

>>128628835
>Fuck I don't know if I want to switch to Warrior now
You will definitely want Clout if you stick to physical, so you'll be leveling Warrior one way or another.

>>128628791
Is this game actually fun? Or is it Vindictus with Dragon's Dogma mechanics? The mechanics look pretty solid and the graphics are nice but it looks like every other chink MMO with the endless grind

>>128628674
Nice Daedric armor. :^)

>>128628940
>>128628840
>We hated it.

I used to post here and I liked everything I saw but god damn why bother after a certain point

>>128628972
It plays just like dragons dogma apart from a pretty gay enrage mechanic for bosses

There is grind but if you're having fun killing shit it doesn't really matter.

Unlike Vindictus there's a massive overworld too, it's instanced to your party. You can still travel all over it though.

>>128629053
The parts that were hated were Facebook and the fact that the picture never looked as good as what you saw on screen.

>why bother after a certain point?
Personally I tended to take pictures of other people's pawns in action both as part of my own pawn shilling campaign and because it's kinda nifty when someone else takes a picture of your pawn.

I got tired of screenshotting my own characters pretty damn quick.

>>128628972
>Vindictus with Dragon's Dogma mechanics

I'd give my left nut for a game with Vindictus' fully unlocked character customizer and Dragon's Dogma mechanics.

>>128626554
you start the game with 3 lift stones. you also get at least one in a chest in duskmoon. also you can repeat this methos by switching to hard mode and back to normal mode again.

but as anon said the only hard part ia surviving midnight helix.

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Why the fuck is this guy even here. what the fuck.
This isn't my beloved you dumbass dragon.

>>128629257
The 360's photos were clearer than PS3, the only upside is we get to use a thumbdrive to transfer photos.

>>128627096
I been "accidentally" running thr game using my Intel HD instead of nvidya card for awhile, the game run fine on 30fps but shit hot as fuck.

Does the PC release have non-player owned pawns of all vocations? I need to summon male mages for how I want to play through the game. I can't have my main pawn be my mage because I make my pawn female so she can be Ogre bait, since losing my pawn in combat isn't a big deal.

>>128629349
>Julien as beloved
You lucky sonuvabitch.

Anybody know if you can still trick Steam into unlocking a game early? Got 11 hours left but last time I tried it was a long time ago.

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>>128628972
>Vindictus with Dragon's Dogma mechanics?
>implying a full DD playthrough with BATTLE PILLAR KAROK would not be the greatest video game experience of all time

>>128629349
>Julien not the best
He puts that brown whore in her place.

>>128629287
And character creation.

Vindictus never appealed to me because I couldn't make my own character. Still liked it.

>>128629349
Get a room you two.

>>128628335
The purpose of a game is to beat it, the better you beat it, the more you have won. The correct way to play a game therefore is in the way that results in the most absolutely conclusive beating of said game, where nothing could have possible been done any better, a 'perfect score'.

The goal of good game design is to ensure the kind of experience that playing the game in that way accomplishes is enjoyable. If a person has to sacrifice something to play the game optimally, the design is bad.

>>128629607
Yeah, that too.

I still remember the webms of the girl dancing with all the different underwears, my fucking dick.

Wish I had them.
hint hint

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>>128629287
DDO actually has an expanded character creator over the original

>>128629713
So whats the lore explanation as to why there are thousands of Arisen in the world in DDO?

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GIVE GAME NOW

FUUUUUUCK

>>128629632
Having imperfect stats is only a sacrifice if you're autistic. It doesn't impact your ability to play and enjoy the game in any meaningful sense.

>>128627812
But tank builds are best builds

>>128629761
>White dragon is protector of the realm
>Fights a gold dragon and wins, but is dying
>Makes a shit-ton of Arisen to keep monsters and shit under control

>>128629761
Dragon is dying because he fought an ancient evil dragon a long time ago, made a billion Arisen to help find a way to cure his decay.

>>128629713
Is it hard to setup DDO and get it going?

>>128629761
the white dragon said fuck the cycle and is making people arisen left and right

>>128629761
Maybe the same reason that there are multiple chosen undead in Dark Souls.Each dimension could have a different hero.

INFINITE TIMELINES

>>128624067
A few things determine how much damage you're dealing:

>How much attack or magic attack you have
>How well the move you're using scales with it
>How much defense the enemy you're fighting has towards the particular element or type of damage

Cutting off a suarian's tail will weaken it towards physical attacks as well.

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>>128629498
>not SPIN SPIN SPIN or blinkspam
That said I would fucking LOVE throwing spears in Dragon's Dogma.

>mfw I found out throwing spears could set off enemy grenades midflight in Vindictus if you happen to line up a perfect shot.
I mean...I'm impressed, very impressed, someone took the time to code such a minute once in 50 blue moons detail, but I mean FUCKING HELL there is actually such a thing as overdevelopment.

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>>128629761
you expect me to know that when most of the game is jap onry?

For what i understand of the opening cinematic:
>white dragon good
>gold dragon bad
>white dragon watches over humanity because ????
>dragons fight
>white dragon wins, but injured, crashes to ground and can't move
>bunch of humans gather to pray around the white dragon, thanking him/praying for his health
>white dragon says 'now it is your turn to protect me' and gives all humans there the mark of the arisen

you play a lot later but from what i gather you just get marked as an Arisen if you're considered worthy to protect the dragon.

>>128629870
not really, all the steps bar the download can be done in under an hour, i made a guide
http://pastebin.com/7T5WZf9d

>>128625324
Sprint is useless

>>128629713
DDO's character creator has great quality of life features too

>preview with different outfits
>preview in different lighting conditions
>multiple saveslots for designs
>undo/redo buttons

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>>128630006
>filename
You fucking beautiful bastard

>>128629795
Its all part of your score. You play a game to get the highest score. "score' has been abstracted out into many numerous different things these days, but its still there. You can take a snapshot of your current gamestate at any time, in any game, and analyze it, how good you are currently doing vs how good you could theoretically be doing is there, beneath the surface, maximizing this is the goal, it is the game itself, a game is something with rules to be beaten, a toy is something you just dick around with aimlessly for fun. Video games, not video toys anonymous.

>>128626761
There is no Post-game though, you can't explore or do anything after the game is finished

>>128629632
>The goal of good game design is to ensure the kind of experience that playing the game in that way accomplishes is enjoyable. If a person has to sacrifice something to play the game optimally, the design is bad.
you know there are game theoretic problems without well-defined optimums right

like in a purely mathematical sense

what you are talking about is not even well-defined for all "games"

>>128628972
It's a shitty grindfest with boring area design but not bad combat. It also requires you to have a full party, so say hello to randoms or make friends.

>>128630006
arrows can detonate ballista projectiles midair in dragon's dogma too iirc

>>128629632
At first I didn't agree with you, but your second point is correct. I don't particularly care for minmaxing unless I plan for it, but the average gamer today couldn't beat the first level of Galaga. When I play stuff like Guild Wars 2 or Planetside, my jaw drops at how awful some people are at videogames. I don't even consider myself that skilled, but some of these people have been playing games longer than I, and they're still mediocre.

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>>128630118
Okay, autismo.

>>128630134
there is always an optimum, there must be

>>128628897
bump

>>128630118
>You play a game to get the highest score. "score' has been abstracted out into many numerous different things these days, but its still there. You can take a snapshot of your current gamestate at any time, in any game, and analyze it, how good you are currently doing vs how good you could theoretically be doing is there, beneath the surface, maximizing this is the goal
optimization is a form of mathematical modeling. there is no guarantee that a problem can be represented by optimization. it is pants-on-head to think that optimization is somehow fundamental in the expression of problems

i blame widespread misinterpretation of the von-neumann morgenstern theorem, and more generally the sick mathematical colloquialism of utilitarian ethics. i also blame anyone who thinks a neural net is "like" a brain

why the shit is everything so hard to kill on hardmode as a warrior after killing the dragon

>>128630367
try equipping them faggot

>>128630194
Except you can play offline with pawns. I don't think you played the game anon.

>>128630430
Because it's when the game actually starts,also have fun in BBI.

>>128630104
It's funnier if you know anything about the scene.

Although it's still humorously evil without context.

>tfw when going to bed with some late night Berserk

>tfw when going to exact the injustices of the world tomorrow on some goblins

>>128630590
>that feel when when
hello redditor

>>128630226
>arrows can detonate ballista projectiles midair in dragon's dogma too iirc
yep, that's right.

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>>128630380
What you got against utilitarian ethics faggot

How come no one is making black characters

>>128630639
oh nooooooooo

>>128630617
>greentexting

Hey reddit.

>>128630736
Would you want to be a black guy in medieval times? Fuck, it sucks to be a black guy right now.

>>128630380
The problem here is that a game is nothing but a set of rules. The rules arent trying to describe something, they are the thing in its entirety.

>>128630514
>you can play an mmo offline
no

if you meant you can play by yourself with a team of pawns then yea

>>128630297
game-theoretic (competitive) problems have equillibriums, not optimums. there are multiple very different kinds of equillibriums depending on how you define it. whether or not a given equillibrium (e.g. nash) is "like" an optimum is an open epistemic question in game theory. more importantly, in many cases the intuitive definition of an equillibrium (again, nash) is not actually realizable (i.e. the game can never reach that equillibrum, see the work of eva tardos) a fucking rock paper scissors robot immediately calls into question what you're saying

optimums can also be unrealizable for more straightforward complexity reasons, or if your preference relation just isn't a fucking total order. a partial order on game states (i.e. there exist a pair of game states with no preference between them) IMMEDIATELY explodes the assumptions of VMN theory that allow for embedding in a utility calculus. all you need to break optimization is an economy with two non-fungible currencies

>This game will unlock in approximately 10 hours

tfw being cuck by japs.

Somebody please tell me that Guts is still one of the default character options. Also is the Berserk weapons/armour just model swapped to something generic with the same stats?

>>128630781
nice try reddit

>>128630645
8 years of watching PhD math and CS research tortured by fucking pop sci commentators and bloggers. yes, i'm mad. fuck the rationalists oh my god. YUDKOWSKY ISN'T TALENTED

>>128630796
idk, black people did alright in the Southern Mediterranean.
if you could compare DD to a medieval country, what would it be?

>>128630963
yes its still an option
no, the armor and weapons have been removed from the game

>>128630949
>tfw it's been the 15th for over 19hrs

>>128630985

But it was me you were responding to, you suck at this reddit detecting thing.

>tfw when getting called out by idiots

>>128630864
thats exactly what offline is you fucking mong

its not even an mmo, if it is then so is dark souls, or any party based game with multiplayer.

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Goodnight /ddg/, When I wake in the morrow fun will have finally arrived

>>128631032
>if you could compare DD to a medieval country, what would it be?
Generic Fantasy Europe.

I don't think it's directly influenced by any actual country or specific era, just a vague mishmash.

>>128631152
Goodnight cutie! hope to play with your pawn later today

>>128630863
I will give you a system of rules and I will tell you to optimize two distinct values. What do you do?

This example isn't as contrived as you think. Even if you give some kind of constraint relating the two bi-optimized values (e.g. minimize X while keeping Y within this range), such games are almost always in class NP or worse and so not actually optimizable by any physically realizable system for sufficiently large games.

>>128631141
>thats exactly what offline is
No, offline means not online. Like, playable without an actual internet connection.

Playing an MMO with pawns means you're playing solo, but it's still online.

>>128631032
Midland

>>128631085
What does that vendor sell instead after you clear the shortcut out of the three Ogres?

>>128631141
>that's exactly what offline is
but you have to be connected to the internet/game servers

are you rusing me here

>>128631092
>It's almost 6 PM now

>>128631335
He sells broken hopes and dreams.

>>128631381
That's one advantage of being a Europoor.

The game will be unlocked right after dinnertime, so I can go home, get some food, and then play all weekend long.

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Loading screens are still shit but it's not as bad. I tweaked ENB to only supply AO and lessened the FPS hit.

>>128631032
Well, going off the accents:
Gransys: England
Hearthstone: France
Voldoa: Germany

Though the land feels more Mediterranean.
All great places to be black in medieval times.

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>>128630736
I feel you.

>>128631546
Anyone compared ssd vs hdd loading times?

I know connecting to the server will be shit regardless

>>128631546
It seriously just looks like you turned up the brightness settings in the options or something

>>128624067
Yes, fight a golem

>>128631387
pretty much what this guy says, thats where you bought the beserk armour

>>128630736
my pawn was a 7 foot tall delicious brown skin amazon

but I could never get her face right

>>128631351
>what is cracking?

I'm kind of glad the game doesn't unlock until tomorrow. I would've just stayed up all night playing it.

>>128632151
delicious brown != black

>>128624067
you get to spam blast arrows in the very late game. killing the hardest bosses in hard mode in 5 seconds flat with zero risk involved.

>>128623443
Up to 3 pawns. We're on a role now.

>>128632185
what the fuck are you even talking about?

>>128631498
>tfw being a europoor who has to work the weekend at 05:30 in the morning.
Kill me now, I wish I was a neet again.

>>128624067
You're doing something wrong if a fireball does that much to your warrior. The main issue is that casters melt if anything that doesn't stagger easily gets close, or if they're low on stamina

>>128632269
He thinks Dragon's Dogma is the same thing as Dragon's Dogma Online.

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>>128631979
ENB just fucks with vram, it doesn't matter what kind of drive you have.

>>128632012
And AO. But yeah webms don't capture the appeal and my screenshots don't have enough AA to look good.

>>128631259
The lack of the ability to arive at a single solution just means there are multiple optimal solutions. As long as there is no answer that is more optimized, then all the most optimized attempts are equally optimal.

Many games have unobtainable goals, the game is in getting the best result. You do this by trying to get the unobtainable goal even if you know you cant.

10 HOURS LEFT

>>128632258
is there really no better way?

I cannot wait for player-made pawns to hire.

i swear 99% of offline pawns are some "sorcerer with guardian/nexus" bullshit.

either that or its a 4" min weight warrior wearing no armor besides a cape with ladder blade and medicant/utalitarian.

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Oh man I completely forgot that escort quests from the quest board: A. Start automatically as soon as you accept them, B. Are awful because the person you're escorting sticks close to you even when you're fighting a fucking chimera, C. Aren't worth the meager reward and the headache

Just gonna skip these until I amass a ferrystone hoard.

>>128623443
Are people adding their pawns from the pirate version, or just what they're planning to make in the legit release?

>>128632637
>until I amass a ferrystone hoard.

or take your eternal ferrystone out of storage

>>128632650
Legit release.

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>mfw I have outdated 250gts

>Be having overheating problems with my CPU, assume it's my tight case
>Start doing stress tests on DDDA while monitoring temps
>60FPS keeps knocking the CPU to 74+ degrees C
>Settle for 30FPS, which puts it at around 68 degrees C
>Happen to glance at GPU temp; 92 degrees C
>WHATINTHEHOLYGODDAMNEDFUCK

>Dig through AMD settings
>New software I downloaded with the driver update has capped the fan speed at 30%
>Set that fucker to automatic
>Immediately speeds up to 55% on its own
>GPU now hangs out around 55 degrees C
>CPU now around 68 degrees C on 60FPS

Whew. Thanks AMD for trying to set my graphics card on fire. Glad I sorted that shit out.

>>128632753
anon thats the bitcoin miner

>>128632650
What were planning on release. At least that's what I'm doing.

>>128632650

Definitely new pawns.

Pirat savegame file is incompatible, since the pirate version uses the same fake steamID IIRC.

>use pirated pawn, it's a corrupted amalgamation of flesh from hundreds of pawns

How are the mouse and keyboard controls? Would I be better off just using my ps4 controller?

>>128632753
Which pirated version did you download?

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>>128632202
she was p black

>>128632778
Ah, of course.

Ruskies, why you gotta cookski my computerski? How will you mine your coins if my computerski explodes?

>>128632747
>buy a $80~ 750ti
>pop it in a pci-e, no PSU power needed
>play dogman at 1080p 60fps mostly maxxed settings

>>128632798
playable but I don't know why you wouldn't use a controller if you had the option

>>128632798
>How are the mouse and keyboard controls?
Silky smooth.

The difference is especially noticeable when using a bow. Aiming with a mouse is much more convenient.

>>128632827
>dark skin paired with white hair
talking about generic.

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>>128632721
are you japing me, anon?

>>128632823
The dolphin porn schoolproject. It really was just a stupid fan setting, I have a dedicated bare bones gaming partition so I'd have seen any new programs load up in the task manager.

>>128632887
how dare you

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>>128632893
Why don't you check and find out, friend?

Nice to see /ddg/ isn't dead as shit anymore. I miss the oldfags though, fuck all these pc only shitters.

Is Fighter pretty good ? I would like to play only Fighter but I'm afraid it is bad

>>128630864
>you can play an mmo offline
>no

Something is telling me you haven't hosted your own DayZ server yet. Too bad, because it's fun to play with your dedicated group of friends while having total control of the server side.

>>128632634
Same here bruh. I asked a few days ago here if we can do this with CheatEngine already but it seems like not. If you ask me, it's only a matter of time before we can tweak them.

>>128632753
>>128632778
Very unlikely. AMD recently completed their long-awaited switch from Catalyst to a fully new system called Radeon Software. It's one of the biggest upgrade they've ever done in that area, their could be issues like this. Maybe send a bug report.

I highly recommend to use their Clean Uninstall Utility to be able to clear every remains of the previous drivers and Catalyst before installing Radeon Software. Plus avoid using programs like CCleaner, they tend to delete registry entries that's needed for RS.

>>128633062
>I miss the oldfags though, fuck all these pc only shitters.
>Implying the oldfags aren't picking up the PC release

Plenty of us are here anon.

>>128632401
>vram
So 970 users are fucked?

>>128633062
>fuck all these pc only shitters.

98% of the people hyped for the pc release are oldfags

>>128633095
It's good.

You will probably want to pick up some augments from other classes though.

>>128633176
i have yet to play a game that uses the 3.5 gb that my meme card has

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>>128630118
score was a stopgap mechanic by devs from when devs couldn't think of a better way to make their games engaging enough to warrant replays
trying to talk about score in the context of modern gaming is meaningless
but you're obviously just trolling so i'm wasting my time

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>>128623262

>>128633062
>it's 90% returning console players, moron

>>128633218
I'd say it's more like 50%, but yeah.

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>>128633273

>>128633242
total war attila would do it, but its optimised like a turd asteroid

So Mystic Knights get better later down the line, right? I'm level 23 and it's ehhh. Part of it is that I need to get good at perfect blocks which I don't think I've pulled off even one yet. But the damage output of magic cannon and my mace is leaving a lot to be desired here.

I'm guessing it's a vocation that requires you to level lots of other vocations for their best augments.

>>128633115
>I highly recommend to use their Clean Uninstall Utility to be able to clear every remains of the previous drivers and Catalyst before installing Radeon Software.
The new Radeon Software I downloaded through the Catalyst auto-update, so hopefully it handled that for me since I can't find a trace of Catalyst anymore.

But definitely noted, I'll be keeping an eye on the new software in case of other new quirks. And maybe I will just head over to their site and let them know about the fan thing.

>>128633242
He said dd was very vram heavy

I didn't ask about other games

9 HOURS

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>>128630118
This is either pasta or a desperate plea for help

>>128633373
I had zero problems running the leaked version

>>128633346
ABYSSAL ANGUISH

is the game worth getting just to have a loli companion
does it run well on linux

>>128633346
>I'm guessing it's a vocation that requires you to level lots of other vocations for their best augments.
Yeah, it's the slowest to pick up.

Shit, do I go with a big guy warrior pawn or a long haired noble magician pawn for the best bromance.

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>>128633449
>Linux

>>128633514
gays not welcome

So guys, I'm a total faggot. How's the whole romance system and waifufaggotry in this game?

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>>128633273
>>128633331
farmer must be the dream job for a lot of older mangaka.

>>128633373
yes very Vram heavy for a 4 year old game, so about 1.5GB of Vram, the 970 has 4GB of memeram.

>>128633604
3.5*

>>128633238
Which augments from other classes do you suggest me to pick up ?

>>128633551
You might end up with a big fat jew or gay inn keeper as your beloved soulmate.

>>128633346
You must be at max vocation level as well to get really juicy stuff.

But once it gets going - oh man

By the way, would my fighter pawn learn from me even if I use magic knight, but use the fighter skills?

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Soon™

>>128633558
>>128633331
>>128633273

Which is worse, Vagabond's farming, or Berserk's boat?

>>128633547
But I'm shit at making girl characters, plus I can't have some girl protecting my Ranger

>>128633346
try getting the rank 7 fighter vocation Prescience.
increases the frame window for perfect block which helps if you really struggle.

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>>128633676

>>128633517
>implying
arch has been the most enjoyable experience i've ever had

>>128633676
Should I just sleep now or what?

>>128633668
Theres not really anything to teach fighters

>>128633346
protip if you want to have actual fun as mystic knight: fuck shield spells

use your shield for enchants, use shit like burst strike/the air strike/ great cannon/

once you level up the vocation a bit and have on the fly access to abyssal anguish/stone forest/any enchant you want/staff spells for ranged it's a great class.

its main problem is that its stat progression is rather shite. I'd start strider 1-10 then go ranger or assassin for a while so you get a good foundation of stamina/strength

im not a min max autist but if you're playing a melee mystic knight you really need more strength. MK gets like 2/level, which is the same as fucking mage/sorcerer I think

>>128633659
Fighter has some of the best augments in the game imo (sinew is a must have for me every time)

you probably aught to do warrior for 3 vocation levels for 10% more damage on basic attacks, then strider for 5 levels for 30% more damage on jumping attacks (something that I personally use alot)

there's more, go check the wiki.

>>128632798
great as fuck, aside from tab navigation.

>>128633781
Well, something like tusk toss + skyward slash wombo combo for sicknasty finishers?

Are you fuckin' serious??? Nine more hours untill us Britbongs can play?

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>>128633698
Make it a super huge swole amazon to defend your ranger fuccboi ass

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>>128633636
4GB just becuese .5 runs at a lower clock doesn't mean it doesn't have 4GB.

>>128633835

>>128629012

>>128633872
>Implying I'm making my Ranger a fuccboi
Fuccboi's are a meme. My Ranger is gonna be buff as fuck.

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>>128625049
>9 years

Jesus christ, where has my life gone?

Oh, I spent it slaving away for a STEM degree I don't even want

>>128633659
Eminence, Ferocity, Clout, Proficiency, maybe Adamance.

>>128633551
Hilarious at best. Nonexistent otherwise.

Oh finally a steam group. Time to spam friend invites.

>mfw 30+ hours down the drain if we can't swap over saves

fug

i mean i'm fine with starting over, i fucked up alot of shit first go

>>128633931
>Daggers and a bow
You're an extra large fuccboi with a side of fries

Starting out with shit gear basically a jacket and a cape, thinking hey this is pretty guud low fantasy stuff > get to gran soren > my inventory now has a princess peach suit that is better than all my other gear and a bunch of flamboyant armors, geez i just started playing i dont want to look like a jester already

>>128630736
All my Arisens have been black guys, anon.

>>128632414
>The lack of the ability to arive at a single solution just means there are multiple optimal solutions.
no. this is clearly not true in the case of a bi-optimization problem. if i tell you "minimize X" and "minimize Y" (i.e. A,B is a solution if there exists no A',B' such that A' <= A and B' <= B), then there may exist 2 solutions A,B and C,D such that the X-values A,C and the Y-values B,D are unconstrained (i.e. the independent values of X and Y may vary arbitrarily across the solution space). this means the solutions form a true two-dimensional partial order, and this invalidates the completeness axiom of the VMN theorem, which means you formally cannot represent the problem by "scoring the game states and increasing your score." actually this is very direct and i'm pulling in more bells and whistles than is necessary

note that this is very distinct from e.g. a typical hill climbing system with multiple hills of equal height, or a plateau or whatever. that's an unrelated problem, and that's what people usually mean when they talk about "optimization with multiple solutions." bi-optimization literally cannot be visualized as a singular space in that manner, that's the entire point of having two commodity dimensions

optimization spaces and hill climbing and all that are an incredibly useful mathematical tool, the basis of all AI research, etc. and it's important to be able to think that way. but there unambiguously exist simple games and problems for which singular optimization of a utility value can't represent the problem

>>128633958
you just killed one of your pawn m8.

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>>128630736
I did

>PREORDER NOW TO GET Digital bullshit #1 and Digital bullshit #2

seriously? They couldn't come up with anything better?

>>128634089
Dont use the dlc bonus items
They'll ruin the game

>>128634072
>10 arrows at once
>Long bow user
Rangers are strong as fuck. Besides, the fuccbois in this game are sorcs and they are still cool.

>>128633797
>>128633991
Thanks men !