/edg/ - Elite Dangerous General

>>128463558
FIRST :DDD xDD

Second for V I S I O N

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=223142

>>128463703
Zozzle :^)

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>you will never snort onionhead from the butt of your cute slave bitch

>visionroute.jpg

How is this trade conda for the visionroute?

http://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda/07D6D6A5D7D8D5C-1e1e1e------------0605050504040403324553.AwRj4ys5Uo==.IzAMddOnb8SKA===?bn=ButtSex

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>>128465360

Excellent, but you probably won't need those guns but I suppose it's okay to have in case faggots want to force you to join kerwhy princess, and you probably can skip out on the fuel scoop too.

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>>128466664
distance from starting systems?

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SERVER DOWN SERVER DOWN

>>128466664
Thanks anon, I'll finish this robigo run I'm invested in, outfit my conda and head out.

>guns to fuck up SJWs

exactly why I kept them

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>>128467314

are the vision servers down or what

I just picked up a bunch of missions and they're all gonna fail now

so got back from wageslaving

whats the new dank doshmaking scheme?

>>128467314
But... My 15 mil

>>128467314
FUGG

>>128467556
the visionroute:
>>128466664

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What the hell

>>128467314
ROLLBACK IMMINENT
PANIC

>>128466664
How long does it take to do a full A-B-A run?

Even the forum servers are down, what the hell

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>>128467771
I guess "only" making 20 million out of that scheme wasn't so bad after all. IDGAF if they take the CR back. Just don't put me in a sidey on eravate

B R A V O BRABEN
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>>128467901
only 24 LY, so 4 jumps max on any respectable trade ship

>>128467901

In my Anaconda with 17ly laden, it's a 2 jump route, and both stations are less than 50ls from their respective suns.

So not long at all. Once the servers unshit themselves, I'm going to time a full ABA run and calculate credit profit.

I managed one full run of it though. I think I got 902,000 for the slaves with 452 cargo, and 532,000 for the berylium.

>>128468156
any unstupid anon to do the math on this vs robigo?

>>128468156
so that would be approx 1.5 mill every 20 minutes

thats crazy

>>128468301
Robigo always wins.

>>128468352
>>128463886
>>128467457
wdhjncf

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>>128468301
450 cargo, 10 mins per run, 3200cr per ton per run, that's about 8-12 mil per hour in a tradeconda in a very optimum situation. Note that I'm stupid for trading so I don't know how long it takes to make 2 jumps plus docking and selling the cargo. So it's mostly guesstimating
Pretty close to Rodrigo if you ask me, but still no 20+ mil an hour. Less infuriating, if that counts

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>mfw about to undertake my L A S T Robigo run before buying a conda and A-rating that fat bitch.

Why Braben, why....

>>128468301

>>128468301

Considering with Robigo you can get 50 million worth of missions in one go, Robigo will probably win without much contest, but you don't have to deal with shitty, broken mechanics with regular trading. Plus, Vision Route will always be there in case they nerf Robigo even further.

>>128468352
If it's only two jumps with stations that close, it should be like 10 minutes. My 3 station, 7 jump route was 20 minutes at its fastest. Looks like the profits on this one edge it out by a big enough margin.

In my Cutter it looks like I could make about 14 million an hour on this one.

>>128468678
In my A-rated Asp with 72t fuel and 72t cargo I make 30-40mil in 1,4 time.

I (sadly) never found anything near as profitable as that.

>>128468678
thanks anon

robigo is no fun at all once you git gud at it, so I'll try this with a 432t trade conda just to do something different

>>128468775
gonna have to see this for myself later

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mfw when servers return and the visionroute.png gets VISIONed

the dads might have to watch Corrie or EastEnders with the mrs at this rate

save them Braben!

>>128468885
Best I did so far was around 23 mil in an hour and a half, counting 3 process kills. Restarting my game takes around 10 minutes due to the shitty shader generation in Horizons so yeah... I'll have to start stacking more missions

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>>128468965
I extrapolated based on >>128468156

>>128469319
is the route worth it with an >Asp?

are the servers back up yet

So is anyone planning on sabotaging that huge 700 member flight across the galaxy event?

>>128469498
Assuming a class 3 shield, 120T of cargo
Out 239,469
Back 141,239
Total 380,708
Per Hour (if 10 min) 2,284,248

You really need at least a Type-7 I think.

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>>128469319
>10 min 8.6kk
>20 min 7.7kk
>twice the time, not twice the dosh

Am I missing something here?

>>128469953
>Old route if 20 min

>>128469953
old route yields more per run but takes more time

new route is less profitable but much shorter

over the same period of time, you make more money with the new route

>>128469803
Tempted to try and pick people off once they're more than 500 out, a lot of people won't be running shields or weapons since they're outfitted for exploring.

>>128469953
My old route made almost twice the money overall, but took twice as long. So you'd be making 1.4 million every 10 minutes vs 2.6 million ever 20 minutes (aka 1.3 million every 10 minutes).

>>128469219
Process kills are unnecessary. Submit to any interdiction and just boost away. Scanner range is just 3km and you easy outboost that.
And, learn to drop out of SC right in front of the mail slot.

I run windowed so I can kill task just in case, though I almost never have to

>>128469886
is this ok? http://coriolis.io/outfit/type_7_transport/04D5D5A4D3A3D1C----00000202050504040345012f.Iw18aQ==.Aw18aQ==

>>128470761
>unnecessary
Too often I find myself in a situation when a rogue security guy millions of Ls away finds out that I'm smuggling and when I drop down to the station I find him right beside me already scanning me. No way I'm outboosting that

>>128470961
That brings you up to just over four million per hour. The route is 19035.4 per ton per hour.

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Are we finally free?

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I can just feel my Robigobux being ripped away from me as I post this.

with the server down, what are guys playing right now?

>>128472554
waiting for it to come back up

>>128472554
kf 2

>>128472340
>Barely made 10 million
If they take a penny more than that I'll disguise myself as a dad and start shittig on them in the gulag. That will teach them!

ISSUES DETECTED

>>128472554
SC2

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>>128472554

Cumraider Kikes 2

WARNING, BRABEN VISION AT MAX CAPACITY

>>128472554
>implying I've bothered to play this garbage in the last month.

ROLLBACK
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>>128470370
How would you deal with their obviously superior jump range?
It could be wise to estabilish a blockade of the major systems through which the expedition is more likely to travel from now on, rather than trying to chase exploration vessels.
However, given the lack of outposts to repair and restock, the blockade would work only if a continous stream of reinforcements could replace the casualties and the damaged vessels.
We all know /edg/ lacks any coordination to perform this task but there's also to blame the instancing of the game and solo mode, if such things will never be really effective.

Just managed to get on, my credit balance is untouched. Anyone else?

>>128473659
Wrong reference, i meant to answer to >>128470316

>>128473860
Can't connect for me.

>>128473860
Got 30 millions reverted, i don't know of this has to do with Robigo trick, because i made much more than that sum.

>>128473860
still cant log in

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>>128474576
F U C K D A D S
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>>128474576
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>128473860
i've just connected and lost over 100 million

>>128475163
>>128474576
I JUST LOGGED IN AND IM IN A COBRA FULL OF BOBBLEHEADS AND FAMILY PHOTOS HOLY SHIT

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>>128475163

Is it just me or are jumps taking twice as long now?

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>>128475163
I lost 250 million
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>128474576
>>128475163

Don't fall for these, it's all like before and no credit was touched.
It was just a server stability check from what i gathered from the forums.

>>128475716
thats the same thing the ss said at the jewish getto

>>128475716
Because they don't want to raise panic, and none of the dads EXPLOITED.

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>>128475716
Nothing was reverted on my end
In my fitted out python :^)

Frontier even tweeted that it was just a server stability issue, stop being babies

>>128476118
same thing here. then again I only got 20 million robigobux

someone explain to me how come when I go afk other ships always fucking crash into me as I am goddamn stationary

>>128473659
I think I'd just trail behind and look for the people in the back. There's always going to be stragglers scooping and such, just picking people off when they're isolated is enough for me.

>>128476118
Can you post your RGB thing for that color

also guess I'm not logging in right now because RIP wallet

>>128477283
<MatrixRed> 0.3, 0.3, 1 </MatrixRed> <MatrixGreen> 1, 0, 0 </MatrixGreen> <MatrixBlue> 1, 0, 0 </MatrixBlue>

>>128478040
ily senpai

>>128466664
I think I may outfit a Python to make this trip. Anaconda is too much when I want to get a Corvette.

>>128479273
I think a corvette looks cooler than an anaconda but it's not as good of a multipurpose ship apparently?

>>128479273

Market is being flooded right now, prices are falling fast.

>>128479803
There's still Robigo, friendo.

>>128479715
its supposed to be a dedicated combat ship

but its really not that much better then an Anaconda

>>128479803
so what your trying to say is that the market adapts to player action?

that doesn't sound like the vision

>>128480484
It does, but the prices only shift so much. It will make the trade route only be as good as every other decent one.

>>128480305
Yeah that's what I gathered. Figured I'd stick with the Conda for the jump range. I have one now but it's not very well-equipped but I don't feel like grinding for hours and am debating on just sticking with this and slowly making money doing whatever.

>>128480639
so what, does that mean i shouldn't waste my time with this now?

>>128480862
No, waste all your time you can now before it 'goes cold'.

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>all this activity around kamocan/corin
>most of it is solo
>only see an occasional anaconda or type-6 around them
>tfw because of instancing and solo/group, Elite will never have a hub like Jita

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>>128481102
COZ IT'S TOO GAMEY

Is this game good and/or fun?

>>128480941
I'm not going to bother. I'll do another robigo run for 30 mill in roughly 2h.

>>128481758
No
NO!

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In case you were wondering how bad Bi-Weaves are for anything other than bounty hunting just change the appropriate values to see how long you have to recharge and how much damage you take before Bi-Weaves become worth it:

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=line%2C+slope%3D1.6%2C+y-intercept%3D552%2C+line%2C+slope%3D2.4%2C+y-intercept%3D441

>>128481758
No game in the history of /vg/has ever been good or fun. Those words may as well not even exist. Everything is shit. You're shit too.

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>hauling shit
>get interdicted by two faggot NPCs
>open fire on them
>bounty gained in blah blah blah for assault of dindunuffin

fuck this game

>>128482175
Don't BiWeaves draw more power?

>>128481758
If you want to pilot spaceships and don't care if every space station looks the same, or that the game eventually becomes a grind for money, then yeah, it's fun I guess.

>>128482597
They actually draw significantly less than regular or prismatic A because they're capped at C.

>>128482941
Oh fuck this is great news

>>128481375

I still do not understand what that means.

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FUCK FUCK FUCK HOW THE FUCKING FUCK SHOULD I RANK UP IN MY FUCKING EMPIRE IF BRABO "FIXED" FUCKING FEHU? FUCKI U AND UR SHIT FUCK U FUCK

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>buy FDL
>outfit it for good ol' BHing
>flies like a goddamn brick attached to a paralyzed pigeon
>sell it and get my vulture back

>>128483236
Pledge to aisling :^)

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you have got to be shitting me

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>>128483385
>nigger faced sex slave bitch

>>128483427
enjoy being interdicked 7-8 times before you reach it ;^)

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>>128483385
FUCK YOU FUCKING FAGGOT GIVE ME MY FEHU BACK YOU FUCKING SHITLORD

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>>128483524
UUUUUUUUUUGH

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>>128466664
>3,228Cr is vision route
please step up your vision

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>get random fines all the time for literally no reason
>can't really trade in an eagle
>99.99% passenger missions that you can't afford the module for without trading first
>any non-fed system has you facing 10+ enemies on the way to base
>high likelihood of dying to any encounter due to shitty controls, ramming AI and no shield

I honestly don't know what people saw in this shit over the 1984 version

>>128483947

>43.98ly

>>128483973
git gud scrub

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I made a 500 ly trip for this.

>>128484294
bad luck at the RNG draw? Try toggling between solo/open a few times and please report back

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fuck me with the business end of a rake, I'm gonna fail my other missions because of this

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>>128484675

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fucking finally

never again

Anyone using this? https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=223056

>>128485107
I was rooting for you

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>>128484447
It's better now, but i want imperial missions

>>128485350
Is it good?

>>128485473
thanks anon, sorry about the VISIONed imperial missions

>>128485350

this is intresting

>>128485107
Hey at least it wasn't fucking Hutton orbital

Holy fucking shit

>>128485350
how does that works?

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Dad pls

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When did you most want to kill another player?

Is there a way to set up a consistent route between systems in your navigation without having to reset it each time? Specifically for trading between two systems.

>>128487125
>remotely effective way of making money
CHEATER
that's game-breaking son

>>128487125
I'd just kill for an ingame log.

Having to use NotePad/Excel for when you want to trade is slightly inconvenient

>>128487096
>fuel dad
>pledged to that slut


dammit

>>128487497
>>128487125

Here we go with the whiny gamerboys again. "Waaah waah waah!" Can't do anything but complain can't you? Maybe you should go play EVE if all you want is to stare at spreadsheets and get as many credits as possible no matter what.

>>128488315
nice blog dad

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>can't even play the fucking game now.

Am I free from the vision?

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>>128484675
I'm going

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>>128488315
>want a simple log or history of systems you've entered
>FUCKING WHINY GAMERBOYS

dad?

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>first time landing on a >1G planet

I wasn't ready for this

>>128488858
Get out while you can

pssst, all the dads are in pallaeni now.
murder

FOUR FUCKING INTERDICTIONS AFTER JUMPING TO STAR

>>128489954
whats happening in there?

c'mon anon, post that fotla jpg again. the route is already public

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Fuck nevermind I just noticed my gold was wrong so I deleted it. My old route is still the most profitable, compared to >>128466664 and
>>128484675

Prices and times are from my Cutter with no interdictions, the rest is extrapolated.

The "Old Route" is Marrallang (Stromgren) Imperial Slaves -> HR 571 (Shavyrin) Gold -> Shapsugabus (Abe) Berrylium -> Marrallang.

If you can get to 15.75 Ly laden, you can cut off about a minute by jumping directly to Shapsugabus from HR 571.

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this might just be the most progressive game of all time

>>128491271
thanks anon

>>128491271
Also, if you happen to run Marrallang out of slaves, which I've done in the past, you can switch to Alfven from Stromgren and trade as normal.

>>128485350
>inb4 keylogger
>inb4 it actually takes your best routes and sends them to the creator
>ctrl+f "sou" *ding* *ding* *ding*
>0/0 for "source"
Dropped

>>128492095
That's the download link and troubleshoot thread

This is the manual https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=119873

so Robigo runs are shit now?

FUCK

>>128492414
lol no, get your >asp

>>128492414
S H A D O W
D E L I V E R Y

>>128492414
robigo runs are still good

>>128484675
I just made the A > B > A trip with a 452t TradeConda.

Earned 1.326.168 CR in 11 to 12 minutes. I'm a bounty hunter by trade, so maybe an experienced trader could make it in less than 10 minutes easily.

>>128493587
How much it cost to outfit a trade conda?

>>128493948
http://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda/04D6D6A5D7D8D5C----------------0605050504040403034501.AwRj4ys5Uo==.IzAMddOnb8QSA===?bn=TradeConda

I think this would be the bare minimum. You could put a fuel tank and/or fuel scoop to increase the range, and a few hardpoints to deal with the eventual pirates.

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>>128490081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEehdlU4_Ys

Where were you when 17 Draconis is kill?

>>128494350
I can't decide whether this is pathetic or kind of cool

>>128494743
in my cutter

https://youtu.be/3U4UlijW-0o
what the fuck is wron with these ice planets?

>>128495137
i still wonder how do you get that arrow in the hud

how many slaves i have to sacrifice to the vision?

>>128495137
fuck wrong video

>>128494350
So many memes concentrated in one video, i'm having a heart attack

>>128494348
Saw that build earlier, was just curious about yours though. Thanks anon.

>>128495241
isn't that something you get by using mouse piloting?

>>128494350
It just had to be a rotating cobra, didn't it?

>>128495297
https://youtu.be/XnP---KgDgg
the right one. These ice planets are pretty shit. All moons and mars-like planets have nice textures, but this shit kills my eyes

>>128495241
It was by default I think.

>>128495720
>oh hey bright blue
>I wonder whats that all about lets go and visit
>it's the same shit as everywhere else

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>>128496146
V I S I O N
>>128495241
Try this

>>128495348
I'm the one who posted it earlier. My own conda was fit like this for trading:

http://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda/08B7C6A5D8B8D5C1e1e1e1e27272424000204040404040m0605050504040403034501.AwRj4ys5Uo==.IzAMddOnb8SKA===?bn=

Basically I stuff my BattleConda full of cargo racks, I don't bother downsizing powerplant and etc. for lighter stuff.

>>128469803
When is it and can you fill your cargo hold with explosives so when you die it takes a large chunk of players with you?

>>128495348
BTW I'm about to make a few upgrades... This is what it's going to look like:

http://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda/08B7A6A5D8A8D5C2c1e1e1e7j7j1313000204040404040n4l5o5of6f52b2d2b2b326b.AwRj4yo5ao==.IzAMddOnb8SKA===?bn=

Still not fully A-Spec, but getting close.

>>128496965
What is the point to getting A thrusters? I thought there was negligible performance gains compared to say 8D?

http://coriolis.io/outfit/fer_de_lance/06A5A4E4D6A4A3C1e1b1b2727000002020j0f4a5d6l2725.Iw18aQ==.Aw18aQ==
RATE

>>128498039
shit/10

>>128498146
WHY?

>>128498236
You just wasted a HUGE hardpoint

>>128498039
http://coriolis.io/outfit/fer_de_lance/16A5A4A4D6A4B3C2c1g1g26260l04040404044a2b2b2725.Iw18aQ==.MwRgDMZeW30kUA==?bn=FDL%203xPA%202xMC%252FF

>>128498307
http://coriolis.io/outfit/fer_de_lance/06A5A4D4D6A4A3C2c1b1b2727000002020j0f4a5d6l2725.AwRj4zNEg===.Aw18aQ== What about this NOW?

>>128498236
>not one but 2 chaff launchers
>no shield boosters
>FSD wake scanner
>A rank FSD interdictor
>E rank FSD
>fucking large pulse on Huge hardpoint

what the fuck are you doing

>>128498457
An No killwarant scabber. What is this? A conflict zone destroyer? No shield cells. What is this shit?

why the fuck is the python so sluggish it has totally overkill thrusters for its weight

>>128498578
>>128498039
The FDL is an interceptor, not a tank. Fuck at least one of those HRPs off and throw some SCB in instead. Much better to rely on shields than hull in this ship.

Also, replace at least one of those Chaffs with either ECM or Point Defence, probably point with your power situation and overall look of inexperience.

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>>128498578
>A rank KWS
>B rank FSD wake scanner

do you hate your power plant or what, jesus

D rank is all you need for KWS and E rank for wake scanner

fucking hell

>>128499815
when will they learn that people stopped giving a shit about rollercoaster sims after rct2?

>>128498578
>>128498735
>>128499869
there, unfucked it for you

http://coriolis.io/outfit/fer_de_lance/26A5A4A4D6A4D3C2c0s0s2727040402020m044a5d6o012h.Iw18aQ==.CwBhGYyhGXoJkUk9QiA=

why you are trying to outfit a FDL when you clearly have never outfitted a combat ship, I don't know

also a C4 Cannon is a legit, cheaper alternative to a plasma accelerator

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>>128500331
>cargo rack
>Basic Discovery Scanner

Ok anons, how do I get federation rank for a 'Vette? missions in 17Draconis/Tamar are still relevant?

>>128501721
small cargo rack is always useful and what the fuck else would you put in a C1 slot than a discovery scanner, a fucking docking computer?

>>128502278

HULL REINFORCEMENT PACKAGE

Hey guys rate my explorer

http://edshipyard.com/#/L=70Y,7Oi7Oi7Oi7NI7NI3Qw3gY3wA0_g,339iBG3w889i6a22,7nC7le7k47iW7gy7gy4ws2jw2Uc

>>128502862
I want to cut you

Why do you people constantly whine and bitch and moan about this game while continuing to play it?

>>128502741
a whopping 300 hull that does not protect modules

it works I guess

>>128503182
/edg/ is like an overly proud girl being fucked in the ass for the first time, lots of complaining and moaning and telling braben to stop grinding, but in reality they are feeling good.

>>128502862
I actually laughed

well played

>>128503340
That is so ass backwards. If you're genuinely not having fun you stop playing. Not this autism.

>>128503182

Same can be said about the military armor, only the HRPs cost 1000x less and weigh 1/5th as much or lighter.

>>128503818
meant for >>128503219

>>128502278
Is there a big difference between the range of the various FSDi modules?

>>128504217

Yes, though it's hard to gauge because your range depends heavily on your SC throttle range at the time.

Also better FSDi causes the target's escape vector to pull away from them harder.

I'm doing a mission to hold some information for X amount of time. Do I just sit in the system til it tells me where to go?

>>128502082
So nothing? I heard 17Draconis was nerfed, would like some confirmation before heading there.

>>128503182
Because people want the game to be better. You see the potential of the title and hope it can be better.

>>128505648
Yeah it's been VISION'D

>>128505370
yup

you'll have a NPC drop in to tell you

>>128505851
fuck. whats the alternative? do shadow deliveries from sothis increase the federation rank?

>>128506110
Not sure if soothis is fine either. I know Robigo is still okay.

http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Harold_Duval

Is his mental illness inheritable?

>>128507003
Yes, and considering her arch nemesis is a crazy cat lady, I'm going to say yes, Aisling inherited her fathers retardation.

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>>128507563
A fight she can't even win, too

How long will space chinaman's discount last? Or is it permanent because of powerplay or something? Thinking about going full penguin, but would like to buy an Anaconda before that if it's set to expire within the next month or two.

>>128508173
It's a faction trait and lasts forever.

Delicious Anacondas at 122m.

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>>128508315

>tfw

Only got 18m left, gonna do a day or two of Robigo runs to get some breathing space, then I'm fucking going to Sag A.

>tfw no corvette

what are the best systems to hunt aisling pilots? I'm bored as shit with the game. 6billion assests nd no end game

>>128509685
Anaconda is better

>>128509816
Animelings fly Imperial Tippers and Imperial Cutfags, so basically anything fast with chaff, probably FDL or FAS

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Aisling the anime

>>128510191
I guess he asked about where to hunt the animefags

>>128510409
Just call for a fueldad

what is better asp explorer or scout

>>128510896

t-9 heavy

>>128510896
What do you want to do with it? For exploring an AspE, or a DBE if you can't afford it. For Robigo also an AspE. AspS is shit tier, just released so FDev can say they made another ship.

I ranked up Fed ranking just for the corvette, but i'm realizing how shitty the other Fed ships seem compared to Empire ships.

is this a game yet? is it more of a game than Star Citizen?

or is it still a demo?

>>128514280
Its definitely a game and as much as we seem like we hate it, its pretty fun. Its just that the V I S I O N makes it lack so much. At the moment its a lot of wasted potential.

>>128514280
>is this a game yet?

As shallow as it would be if sold as a physical copy, but yes, still a game.

>is it more of a game than Star Citizen?

My dick is more of a game than Star Citizen at this point.

>or is it still a demo?

Parts of it are fleshed out, others not so much. If you're skeptical, get it on sale so you won't waste too much money if you end up disliking it.

>Be honest space trucker
>Never smuggle illegal shit or do cartel missions
>Guy follow me to stations
>YOU'VE BEEN A HARD ONE TO FIND
>Fire to lasers that bounce of my shields
>Ship proceeds to get fucked up by a swarm of federal ships

why does this keep happening

I just want to be space trucker who keeps to himself

For a game that likes to wave it's realistic space credentials around you'd think FD could make space (black holes, neutron stars all that shit) a bit less boring.

Even based Space Engine slav got accretion disks into his project, and he's one guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yerx-hZod_M

>>128517016
>Can't lure ships into Sagittarius A and watch them drift into darkness
>dude heat damage lmao

>>128517557
Heat damage would be fine if it had a big fuck off accretion disk around it. Shit like that would be great, disks, pulsar beams, solar weather to watch out for. Might help keep the explorers awake.

>>128518396
>jump to pulsar
>instantly reduced to molecular soup as the beam sweeps across your ship

>>128518668
That's why it's called Elite DANGEROUS!
/forumdadmodeoff

As long as there were ways to avoid it. Like show the death zone on the galaxy map and you have to jump in from the right angle to avoid molecular souping.

Anybody who used the switch open-solo, ABANDON MISSION, Sell IN ROBIGO mechanic got its credits rolled back yet?

>http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/116617-Top-5-Best-and-Worst-Games-of-2015
>yahtzee named elite dangerous second favorite game of the year after tumblrtale

I guess we were all wrong guys

>>128518668
>ship computer warns you of the safe and unsafe systems to jump from
Having environmental hazards that cover a big section of a system would add flavor if done right. Not sure if it would change much practically but it would still be welcome variety. Of course knowing FD it would break a bunch of mission and NPC shit that goes unpatched.

>>128519637

I logged in to find I'd lost around 60 million after the server restart around 7-8 hours ago.

I'm not sure how much I made that way because I wasn't keeping track so I can only assume it was that much.

Glad I made most of my dosh with legit shadow deliveries.

>>128520319

You may get an email soon.

anybody else affected by the rollback? only the method in >>128519637
apply

>>128520580
>go to top
>search for reverted

>>128520580
>not being able to laundry your credits
1 B here still intact

>>128520267

Wish they had that for close binaries already. There are a number of systems right inside the bubble that are dangerous if you approach from the wrong angle at the wrong time.

Panopi is deadly for around a day every month and change when approached from above or below.

>end cycle with 10,000 merits last week
>start with 4842 this week

Did I just get VISION'd

>>128522553
The merits you earn each week are counted for 4 weeks. The week you earn them, they're worth 100%, the next week they're worth 50%, the week after that is 25%, and the week after that they're worth 12.5%. You need to earn 5334 every week to stabilize it at 10000.

>>128523901
That would explain it. Everywhere I read said it was total merits carried over.

>>128524030
So I read up on it, and apparently I'm wrong because it does count the total each time, so you only need 1250 to stabilize it. This VISION sure is fucking intuitive.

Shadow deliveries have gotten so God damn hard, tips to not get scanned? I heard Chaff works and so does shooting the security forces, is that true?

>>128524490
If you shoot them then they stop scanning and switch to combat AI, this much is true. Chaff apparently only affects other players who are scanning you.

>>128524489
https://support.frontier.co.uk/kb/faq.php?id=156

I dug through the FAQ and found this. It is earned merits.

>>128524815
no, use heat sinks as they make your signature completely dissappear

>>128524490

Chaff does jack shit about AI scans. It's not even supposed to affect players either but because a player-controlled scanner is handled like a hardpoint by their own game client for aiming purposes it gets thrown off too.

Silent running reduces the radius at which you can be locked on to and therefore scanned, but since AIs try to reach and maintain a distance of 1KM for scanning they're either already close enough even if you're in SR, or they barely have to move at all to close in. Once the scan is started they can maintain it up to 2KM. All AI scanners are E-graded.

There are only three ways to shake a scan after the AI has already gotten to you:
1. Trigger a combat response by hitting them with weapon fire, or in the cause of authority any crime worthy of a bounty within view will work.
2. Boost clear out of their 2KM range. Many police Viper loadouts can reach speeds of around 410m/s so you aren't reliably getting clear in anything slower than a Cobra.
3. Task kill

>>128524841
>To earn enough to stay at rank 5 you have to either pay 106% of your weekly bonus in fast tracking, spend 53.5 hours twiddling your thumbs without fast tracking stuff, or undermine interdiction grind.
Powerplay is fucking awful. Join the power, get their bonus item, then never participate again, I guess.

>>128525978
I'll pay the money because the 100% bounty hunting bonus from ALD, but any other power is not worth it.

>>128525978
I just hunt NPC's with friends and afk gather the rest I need every thirty minutes since you get more free stuff at rank 5.

Easiest way to make money with the least amount of effort.

>>128526512
>Having Friends

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For all these people saying their robigobux got rolled back, that's bullshit. They didn't roll back any creds. The only place some people are spewing that shit is on /edg/. The gulag, facebook groups and a lot of edgelords I know that exploited the shit out of it still have all their creds.

>>128526945

well I got 1 billion that got rolled back, a beautiful email by frontier, so nope.

>>128527986
So this is why I got a random 1 billion even though I'm still in a cobra

>>128528032
yeah, sure.

I'm seriously looking for other people who exploited as shit to see if the same happened to them

>>128527986
Pics or it didn't happen. Post a screencap of that email.

>>128528157

I don't want to take pics because I want to make a reclamation. If i'm the only one in that case then I WILL ask them to give my creds back.

>>128528259
You're the only one

>>128528259
Just crop it, we don't need to see details, just the email title and something of a timestap like the time/date of the email.

Recommended trucking song?

>>128528298

I'm so pissed right now.

>>128528334

If i'm the one then it's another reason not to show. not until I haven't fought them back.

It is UNFAIR I ALONE have to lose all those credits.

>>128528478
I still don't fucking believe you. Though I do like you, anon.

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>>128528478
Chat shit even more m8
Post proof or stop pretend crying

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>>128528737
>>128528893
>>128528334
>>128528157

I do hope it will be enough because you guys are SO MUCH asking for it.

So yeah, i'm pissed off, it is not a joke, i feel alone and cheated, but also desesperate.

>>128525978
undermine grind and is fucking -fun- if you play with friendly dads

>ended up in a somewhat quiet system that was a pristine metallic ring 450 ls away from the station for mining and a BH spot 5 ls away.
>no trading really possible since apparently only a handful of systems allow trading in any L pad sized ship with a profit more than 1200 credits per run
>would have to give up BH and mining for space trucking

Why is this game so shitty with 99% of the systems so incredibly pointless that nobody cares?

>>128529084
>no time stamp

Do you think this is a motherfucking game?

>>128529172
He does it 4U

>>128529172

I am at work goddamit, I cannot take a picture of my screen with a fucking timestamp in my hand and then crop the hole fucking thing. but if I could, then yes I would do it....

>>128529084
Nice try, but i still dont believe you

>>128529265
You'll have to wait my return at home in 7 hours then, hopefuly camera being charged, hopefuly with the wires not lost, and hopefuly the whole thing being credible enough for you to believe my shit.

Until then, there is NO sign that I'm not alone,
Great, I wasn't just buttfucked, but also I'm alone in that shit. just great.

>>128529257
>>128529228
Hence why I like him. I feel his pain. Exploit or not, 1,000,000,000 is a lot to lose. You could buy a nice Conda from that and A-rate that shit and still be free of the grind. Alas, it's gone.

>>128529962

I just don't understand FD. they KNEW it was there WEEKS ago, they said NOTHING, buttfucked me silently, and i'm supposed to accept that.

accepting a mission is legit
not doing a mission is legit
selling a commodity is legit

Hence my billion was earned in legit way.

I can't even tell if i'm mad or sad. I did it for so many hours and even spend a sleepless night because i had FUN.

Despair is the word.

>>128530161
Yeah it's legit, it's their failure that they didn't think of it when they coded it. An exploit is not hacking, it's just smart gameplay. All it takes is someone to figure it out and use it.

>>128530161
>he didn't launder the money by buying discounted condas and selling them for the same price

>>128530964

no I didn't because what I did was legit goddamit

>>128531060
Dad didn't think so apparently

>>128531227

I know, but still, that makes me the ONLY one to pay for that shit. they took my shit back goddamit

>>128531465
Funny because i made around 1.5 billion but bought a bunch of A rated corvettes.
When i came back on i have 0 credits but sold 2 corvettes and have 1 billion now
Sucks for you

>>128532129

so your BALANCE credit got rolled back and FD only touched your balance. Right?

>>128532551
Yea i think so. I still have all my shit

Is switching to Open -> Solo -> Open considered an exploit??

>>128533586
Nope

>>128530161
>buttfucked me silently

Horrible.

So I think i'm going to go ahead with this build tonight: http://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda/07A7D6A5D8C8D5C2c1e1e1e1c1c1919000204040404040m4n5n5nf6382d2d2b2b2i2f.AwRj4ys0qA==.EwRgDOYVO3vlCZyg

Probably don't really have much more to spend with since I wanna keep insurance moneys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqsJplzDE5o
DAILY REMINDER
THIS GAME HAS VERY DEEP GAMEPLAY AND A LOT OF FUN. IF U DON'T SEE IT - U PLAY THIS GAEM WRONG

>>128534997
that was interesting

Good backing soundtrack, if i'm not listening to podcasts when flying i'll have 80s playlist on.

>>128534997
I don't have sound and i'm at my job

What happens in that video ?

>>128535367
Literally nothing.

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>>128535367
IF U DONT SEE IT - U ARE TOO YOUNG FOR THIS GAME
THIS WAS THREE MINUTES OF INTERESTING MATURE GAMEPLAY

>>128535607

I can't watch the video goddamit i'm undercover

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60 mil I made is still here.

>>128535692

you guys aren't big fish that's probably why.

I had one billion... :'(

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>>128535204
> listening to podcasts when flying
You can also try playing another gaem while flying.

>>128536264
I don't want to crash a 200mil ship into a sun though.

Sometimes i'd play Hearthstone on my phone/tablet.

http://coriolis.io/outfit/python/17B6D5A4D7A6A5C1e1e1e27270j0204044f5n2d2d2d2b29296b.Iw18eQ==.Aw18eQ==
what is wrong with this?

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Aw yisss.

We big shit now.

>>128535651
Looking at bulletin board

>>128537804
Vulture or FDL would be cheaper but more effective.

>>128537804
Fairly typical desu.

I'd go for one more rack of shield cells, maybe a fuel scoop too.

>>128537957
I don't think FDL woyld be cheaper. And also FDL has disgusting cockpit and ship model.

>>128537957
I don't know how you fags fit vulture. It has no fucking power.
http://coriolis.io/outfit/vulture/24A5A4A3D5A4A3C1e1e0j0200024a5d276625.Iw19kA==.Aw19kA==

>>128538727
>gimbal
git fucking gud

http://coriolis.io/outfit/vulture/24A5A4A3D5A4D3C1d1d0n02000n4a2b272525.AwRj4zyA.Aw19kA==

>>128538837
That last slot was meant 0A shield booster

Alternatively you can go pulse+PA with 0E shield booster

>>128538837
NO FUCKING WAY
I tried fixed shit on Imperial Courier, and it was fucking disgusting, i will never use that tryhard faggot shit.

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>>128538979
Git gud fgt

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>>128538837
If you d-dont use shield cells... m-maybe it would be better to use bi-wave shield generator instead of standart...

>>128538979
git gud

I don't use fixed either lol

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SO:

- PVP Combat is shit (combat log, carebears, people just disconnect when losing), that is of course, if you are able to find somebody else in the vast nothingness and if you are not shadowbanned.

- PVE Combat is shit, NPCs behavior is bugged, either they run away from you, or focus you when ganked by npcs

- Navigation is shit, cruise mode is boring and dull, you got nothing to do with minutes of nothingness.

- Exploring is shit, it's exacly the same shit all over, even with sound off. FSD=>scan=>system screen to see if there is something worth it, detail scan if lucky and not lazy, do it all over. 142 M benefit to elite ,neutron star is 40K benefit, that is 3 550 neutron star scan , if you were to encounter only that, with avergage 3 minute in between FSD with loading screens'n shit that is 177.5h MINIMUM of gameplay to explorer elite (which is more likely to be double). Insane, plain dull and boring shit

- Trading smuggling is shit, npc cheats to scan you interdiction is bugged crap when sometimes you can't do shit but lose, and chain interdiction. scan = fail, they pop out of nowhere. Currently the best to do of that mountain of shit. Seriously.

- Trading comodities normal is shit, mind numbing, shadow tweak and re-adjust price of market with each update : benefit average in commodity is 1K , max 3.5K. it is insane to see that in a hundred ly civilization prices do not change a bit.

- Mining is shit, make low bucks with it, that is if you are not getting attacked while doing it, and if your hot chance doesn't give you shit loot.

- Faction ranking is shit and bugged, charity mission nerfed to oblivion, combat missions sometimes bug and does not make you rank up, same for surface mission. A lot of what you do will not make you rank up despite being offered by the faction you are trying to rank up,

- CQC is shit, 50 people are really playing at max, afks everywhere, grind to elite is insane then because there are no matches

Did I forget something?

>>128528467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vK6TN8L9-U

>>128539389
If this game had a way to sort the map by player population size [across every instance] it might suck less dick.

>>128539389
You forgot abot a 10 YEAR PLAN™ :^)

>>128538979
But against anything you would bother fighting in a Vulture you can't miss. Clippers, Pythons, Condas. Even a retard could hit them with fixed guns.

>>128539389

I could detail even more but i got a character limit..

B A R N A C L E S

>>128539389
The game is made to cater casual dads without functional reflexes and understanding capability, but looks complex just enough to give them security of "Oh shit my game is so complex and deep" hence the name of Elite.

>U-use imagination, kid
Fuck you, fat old man. You use imagination when you play text based roguelike. Asking to imagine the context in void eye-candy game is an insult.
>Muh procedural generation and systems
Which is inch-deep and full of bullshits if you can actually analyze it. I bet any critics gave this shit over +80 score don't even know single detail of how the systems work. I'm looking at you, Yahtzee. Second best of 2015? Seriously?

>>128541190
Have you seen his review of Elite? He completely pans it and says everything you just did.

>>128541190
Elite Dang are pretty much a watered down original elite

Can't be helped because braben did nothing and ian bell did everything

>>128541376
braben designed the cobra on graph paper, and probably wrote the flavor text

>>128541431
cobra is a stolen idea from other game

>>128541463
which one?

>>128539389
- Fanbase is pure shit and provides a thick, swarming armor for FDev, allowing them to continue killing their own game

- Ship progression is a colossal cluster fuck where dirt cheap ships like the Vulture are ridiculously better than ships that cost over 3 times as much, meaning you've reached "end-game" combat within about 6 hours of play

How could anyone create this, step back, look at it and think "This is good"?

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>be alliance member
>flying inna alliance-controlled system
>doing hazRES
>every ship that has a bounty on them is part of a pro-alliance faction
>shooting these ships will lower your reputation with alliance
what the fug
how these faggots are alliance but have bounty on them placed by alliance?

>>128541526
I forgot

>>128541837
> >be alliance member
Burger pls

>>128541837
V I S I O N
I
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System Authority also start civil war if any ship accidentally hit the ally. kek