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A DLC that's idiotic reddit pandering, has 1 gun, and costs 7.99
No one is excited for this, at all.
>He's not excited for a new shotgun that will surely have the damage of the predator 12G and the ammo pool of the judge.
>go to the daily dose
>the premise of the heists is Vlad, who is already established as fucking insane has hid cocaine in live goats, a step up from his already established usage of other slaughter animals to transport things
This is what everyone is so worked up about?
>Chains is horrified realizing he's in a shitty colab.
>Wolf is just trying to get it over with as soon as possible.
>Hoxton wants to kill the goat as revenge.
>Dallas has been playing since beta and just can't care about anything anymore.
>25% more XP for everyone between 12-21 January for everyone,
I think the devs didn't precise enough it was for everyone.
>tfw gambler techforcer
>tfw I'll never be appreciated for it.
General is on its death bed but the devs keep swimming in money. At least we aren't the steam forums or facepunch.
I just wish to play Undercover or Green bridge before the devs escape on the Walking dead game.
>mfw surviving a FWB game just because the host is lagging like crazy,
Steam forums hated Overkill until Trashley banned everyone during the Point Break lead up.
>Acting like Facepunch has ever mattered.
I bet you think SA is still relevant to anything.
>implying that techforcer grinder isn't a good combo
>Mud and shit effects,
Nice technology Ovk.
>needing to have 2 pistols that could do the job of one.
>mfw Goat Simulator, Payday, John Wick, Hotline Miami, Walking Dead and Point Break all take place in the same universe,
Hey guys, what if the dlc end up being actually good ?
>tfw it will be almost four years since the last ARG from the first game and still no retarded easter egg to chase after just like with BF4.
Guess there won't be any secrets in this game ever.
>He was always on the vuvuzela, so my thanks,
>Come on you kaks.
There is no way that the Locke character isn't ironic considering how much he's annoying and a cunt.
Been a long time since the game is a meme. Still blame the Car-4 for this.
>and it's not even out yet!
>and we hope you'll enjoy the content too when you get to try it.
>create the tone we want to have in the forums
>If the forums are hostile, developers will shy away from engaging.
>you need to help us create the right setting
>We look forward seeing what you think when you've gotten to play them.
>Thanks again for all the initial feedback! Looking forward to hearing what all of oyu think when you've tried it out.
He is such a passive aggressive fucking faggot cunt that I sincerely hope he dies jesus titty fucking christ.
When your DLC catalog costs more than 3x the price of the game you're selling then you don't get to call it "reasonably priced".
>only five achievements for a 2-day heist dlc,
Remember the times when we had like ten achievements difficult per dlc that needed lot of time to farm kills and mods ? I kinda missed it, especially the ones like doctor miserable or Entrapment.
Making achievements that aren't just
>Complete the heist
>Complete the heist on Deathwish
>Complete the heist after finding the SECRET ITEM
>Complete the heist with no skills and XYZ loadout on Overkill or DW.
>You found the HIDDEN MEME BRO.
Where's your Silent Killer/The professionnal gods now ?
Bigger ammo pool and it can go full-auto.
Payday 2 is getting worse from those dlcs, it was fun at the begining when it was a team based hard game but then almir saw that having a money sandwich and a money shower is better so he decided to fuck up the game with his idiotic dlcs. We are all waiting something new but the whole community is pissed of from those dlcs. MAKE A NEW FLlCKlNG GAME GOD DAMMIT. Stop with payday 2 everyone hate it now. Do you remember GENERALMCBADASS? He was a true payday 2 player. EVERY Single day a new pd2 video. DLC after DLC he makes less pd2 videos and guess what. 1 week and no pd2 vids from him. YOU ARE RUNING PD2 SO JUST STOP THIS
>To unlock this weapon mod, you need to complete the heist on DW difficulty while you and your crew wear the dlc meme masks using the dildo rifle and polkarov pistol
Gee, I sure loved them cheevos.
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You know, the concept of doing existing achievements and/or some kill grinding for petty cash and a mod isn't so bad. But the fact that it's only a super tiny subset of the achievements is what makes it disappointing.
We thought there would be things like doing extra tasks like the hockey poster from FS Day 3, or Vlad's pig.
We thought there would be things like spontaneously doing X thing during a heist.
We thought there would be a few dozen of these extra things because of how much we'd go through during Spring Break.
Maybe make them show up on every heist (e.g. like the hockey poster).
Maybe make them more like "hourly jobs" and "daily jobs" to make up for the fact that the rewards are minor.
Maybe let heisters try to randomly cycle through them instead of letting them be time-locked.
Maybe have Infamous quality items be spontaneous notifications at random times of the day/week that run out in 24 hours.
Maybe have more than three Infamous masks for weekly mask rewards ever.
Side Jobs are so disappointing because they're worse than Neopets dailies.
I got the long barrel yesterday. I just didn't bother to take a new screenshot. So for all tense and purpose it is "perfect"
Other than the M308 there is no assault rifle that can
>Overkill announces a totally optional heist, which doesn't affect previous heists nor the core gameplay whatsoever
>it's also free to join without buying the DLC
>steam, reddit, and /pdg/ starts bitching about "muh immersion" and jew devs
>Interact with the computer on FF day 3 loud,
>hear a clocker's charging sound,
>see him literally coming out of the floor, instantly kicking me,
Fuck you Overkill, i'm a good goy and a good player, i didn't deserved this.
>implying it's worth investing 12 skill points,
Why not just use the M308 at that point ?
So what does /pdg/ have against doing missions in stealth?
Prefer to just shoot?
Find it difficult to stealth due to broken mechanics?
Can't be bothered to get all the way to the end for someone to fuck it up?
I ask this because every time I try to find people to play Overkill stealth with all I get is the whole "go to Reddit" response.
Depends on the heist, but stealth is boring and stupid once you played through the whole game.
Also only OVK stealth? There is zero reason to bother with sub-DW (except for certain achs on Normal and difficulty masks) because the difficulty is basically the same. Only changes that'd matter would be Titan Safes and cameras showing up but then that means you want to rush it, not do real stealth.
Considering how the difficulty is decent on Overkill, it's not worth to lose time stealthing apart if you're one of those guy who really want to get the gold on those elephant jobs,
On Dw, that's another subject.
I used to be a career stealthfag.
Was a Techghost main all the way through I-100 before Infamy 2.0 came out. Did shit like loud DW Transports in a Flak Jacket and stupid shit like that. I stealthed everything that can be stealthed for the sake of stealthing it.
After I switched to loud builds, I never looked back. Because stealth is a lot of bullshit mechanics and if you fail, you have to restart because there is no partial credit, you have to start over from square one. On one hand, that makes sense, on the other, it's just tediously boring. And then there's the problem where stealthing with more than one person is a huge shitshow. Nobody ever listens to directions, always get caught, and even if you have seasoned competent stealthers, some bullshit always springs up last minute and it all goes to hell. And then you realise that you spent 1hr+ restarting the heist over a dozen times and the final successful run took 40+ minutes.
Why bother with unfun shit like that instead of shooting it up for 20 minutes? You get more exp total for doing it loud on any heist, other than the Elephant's two stealth heists, there is zero reward for stealthing compared to doing it loud.
And then there's the problem where 90% of the stealth heists can be ECM rushed except for the ones that were explicitly made to prevent that because devs were butthurt that 4-man ECM rushing is a thing.
You see video listings of people "speedrunning" stealth heists that take like 10-20 minutes but you ask yourself "Why don't they just ECM rush it? This is boring and inefficient anyway."
That and OVK's idea of stealth difficulty is adding more guards and more fetch quests. "Oh this heist is harder because you have to run back and forth 12 more times than the next hardest stealth heist ;)" It's not fun at all.
>implying that the Golden Grin Casino isn't the best stealth heist with the most diverse and fun objectives ever,
Why I stopped stealthing.
√ I'm not a robot
>mfw there was multiple updates trying to improve the optimization on this job.
Thanks again for all those months of hard work LGL.
This. Stealth is still fun occasionally, and I have the same story about mostly stealthing to infamy 3 or 4. But going loud OVK is more profitable than stealthing DW because it takes far less time, is more fun, and faster. Not to mention you can't stealth the big payouts for xp/cash like rats/hoxout/HM. It can be fun, but it's not worth it
I use a gtx610 on medium texture quality and don't have a problem with golden grin.
I spend most of the time gambling for 300k slots but my team picks up the slack on killing doods.
Sorry for repeating myself, I should go back to bed... it's just sad that the payout is shit, especially with the whole 1 mess up equals a full restart no matter how much time you've sunk into this run
>haven't played PD2 in a while, since all that crimefest shit went down
>minding my own business on Steam
>Get a popup for an event
>Goat simulator shit
What in the actual 7 hells of fuck is going on
Guess the steam forums will go nuclear tonight.
Taken from the PD2 steam forum:
Thanks for the initial feedback! Heisters!
There's been a TON of feedback on our latest DLC, the Goat Simulator >Heist - and it's not even out yet! The last DLC we did, the Point Break DLC, was about two really serious heists. This time, we wanted to do a >two-day heist that was more light hearted. Being able to collaborate with our friends at Coffee Stain Studios on doing this has been a joy for us, >and we hope you'll enjoy the content too when you get to try it.
We're happy you guys voice your opinions and that you say what you think. However, please remember to do so in a civilized manner adhering to the forum rules and etiquette.
Remember that you help us create the tone we want to have in the forums. Generally speaking, if the tone is polite and nice, developers will flock like sheep and talk more. If the forums are hostile, developers will shy away from engaging. This goes not only for our official forum (the Steamhub), but any other forum where players would like us to engage in. We want to take part and involve ourselves in your discussions, but you need to help us create the right setting to do so.
We completely understand the "WTF"-reaction from you guys regarding this collaboration. This is a WEIRD and an unexpected collaboration! But we had a lot of fun creating these heists. We hope you'll have fun playing them. We look forward seeing what you think when you've gotten to play them.
Thanks again for all the initial feedback! Looking forward to hearing what all of you think when you've tried it out. end Quote.
>All these spergs dropping spaghetti about this dlc and who take the game and themselves entirely too seriously
Lighten up assclowns.
>Central Intelligence Agency logo in the background
Bane heister when?
>Vlad is insane
>Was using dead animals to move product
>If people can shove coke up their ass, why can't goats?!
There's nothing overtly "too whacky" in this DLC. You and the rest of the community need to get that stick out of your asses.
We went from infiltrating a police department in the middle of the night to steal a server holding precious leads to a bank, to chasing farm animals so that we can pull coke out of their asses. There is an obvious difference in tone between the two and if you can't see it, I don't know what to tell you.
We also escorted a completely oblivious to gunfire drunk fuck who was shot down by aliens. Robbed banks while wearing wacky masks. Beat people up with swords and hockey sticks.
I'm on your side as I still want my heisting game but let's be honest, the tone of the game has been out of control for a long time.
Nothing, the real talk about the weapon, masks and stuff will be tomorrow.
Also pic very related about the state of your computer when the time will come.
Only whacky part are the "lol so random" goats models that come straight from the other game. The mix between the two games end up being a bit too weird, although we still don't know about the results about the gameplay.
>FS day 3
>Look for packages because host wanted to stealth so its boring
>One guy wants to do "It's getting hot in here"
>Suggest that we do it if he finds the last package
>He found it 30 seconds before the drill finished
Thar was the last interesting game I had in pubs
The only thing that tried to make Payday even remotely serious was the live action series
You dont like the goat sim crossover, or its price, or both I get that and thats pretty understandable, but dont try to pretend like this heist ruined muh serious dark souls of heist games
>that feel when a saleshitter i tried to help weeks ago NTR'ed me by preferring some XXV-100 PPshitter, using hacks to stealth Big Oil DW.
Guess that having grinder or a saw is just not enough for the young generations.
>enforcer's on a wheelchairs
Don't act dumb
>implying that 100 ammo pool isn't good enough considering the 80 damage,
just set it to single-fire if you have this much problems with the ammo pool.
Does anyone know how much amount of damage you have to inflict on the cars at the beginning of Slaughterhouse in order to reduce the spawn of the murkies ?
Not sure if it's damage or just a number of bullets.
>you can actually delay the alert of the police on Hotline miami day one by not moving from the spawn point, giving you a minute to shoot the russians before the police is alerted.
Still sucks you can't stealth the mobster part of the heist.
Yeah, after shooting them enough, some are having accidents while other simply have their engine smoking. It was more useful in the first game anyway since you couldn't rush that easily unlike the second game with dodge or grinder.
What did the Korean mean by this?
>people still play this game
I have DLC unlocker and Skin unlocker running. Everything they put out is 100% free, and I have the satisfaction of knowing that if Overkill believes in the piracy=theft notion that I'm passively stealing from crooks.
>Excuse me as I bite down on this hook.
Just hopped on again after a brief hiatus to see where weapons are, what the fuck happened to the Loco.
I was playing a few heists between Very Hard/OVK and seemed like it didn't pack as much punch before, Judge seems like a straight upgrade preference-wise.
Don't know if it's the spread or what, Judge seemed to one-hit everything while Loco needed a follow-up shot a third of the time. Could be my aiming since I have been playing other games previously but fuck.
You got to have Overkill if you want full power Loco back. It's on the same damage level of the Reinfeld now but still faster. Use the Macaroni or Joceline if you don't want to spend the 4 points.
>tfw everyone makes fun of you doing sniper/lmg + smg techforcer
i haven't posted here in a while but goddamn
goat simulator collaboration?
it's premium* content
*premium meaning independent** content independent meaning made by a company worth hundreds of millions of dollars
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!
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- Doctor Fantastic (doctor_fantastic)
- Target Practice: Pistol (pistol_100_kills)
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Because you can't sold a christmas safe or drill, only the skin.
>mfw making 2,5$ out of a akimbo bernetti skin,
>caring about threat stats ever,
>Gage or Bain still didn't find the secret of the cops' s high damage Ihzma and JP36 with perfect accuracy,
I’m not that faggot, but >>128516570
Having on mind that the shotgun actually fires all the fucking bullets, thanks OVK coding, and that they hit all the same fucking target
Silent Killer and the professional are literally meta baits
>implying that 500 hours XXV-100 players pretending to be experts aren't the true danger,
>stop trying to have fun
>no fun allowed
>conform to the meta damn it!
>There are people who will defend the balance in this game although everyone is using the grinder perk deck, the Mosconi and the Baby Deagle,
Just face it, everything went wrong with the Sokol character pack.
Joceline can get a much superior ammo pool while the Mosconi can get a very high concealment stat (27 or 28) making it perfect for stealth or fugitive builds.
Even if the differences are small, you can still pretend they have their uses.
>Join pub FOR FUN
>FWB on normal
>2 bitches below 50 and the other below 60
>Buy ALL the assets even when everyone is going loud
>Using skins in both weapons
>One sperg says "the fuck with this dumbass"
>Reply "what are you, poor?"
Not even mad
Post pub stories
>join an over kill bank heist
>everyone but me isn't even infamy 1
>go techforcer to open all the deposit boxes
>one gets downed, then another, then another.
>leave the vault to see what the fuck happened
>they're all in tear gas
>go back into the vault and wait for the assault to end and get them all out of custody
>the host starts bitching about me being useless for not getting them up in the first place
>join pub FOR FUN
>nightclub on ovk
>everyone below lvl 50
>all 3 fixing the drill
>"YOU JUST GOT MEMED LOL XD"
>mfw i ran around at the speed of sound
>Join a Beneath the Mountain DW game,
>host ask us to use the preplanning feature, claiming he doesn't know shit about where to put them,
>mfw as i just slap as much medic pack as possible on the end of the level since it's really the part where everything usually go wrong,
Locke a qt.
>trusting a guide that tells you gambler, infiltrator and rogue are top tier
>trusting a guide that tells something without health regen is top tier
Are we talking seriously or do you want to stick to overkill?
So you're saying that a 20% health regen for every 10 secs, a 40% melee damage bonus max and a damage reduction being as good as the armorer perk deck is not enough ?
>want to play payday,
>remember autists are still triggered by MT, even months after this,
>still enjoy the game,
Friendly reminder that the best gun in the game requires no DLC.
Started playing about a week ago and having a blast.
Why is everyone saying the game is in shambles? Is it just the standard attitude with every game on /vg/ or are there legit complaints?
>Why is everyone saying the game is in shambles?
The Black Market update and the incoming goat simulator dlc kinda shook the community but ignore those complains, game is still fun and all.
Maybe a difficulty spike would make everyone happy again.
The four masks we will get today will be the heads of the four protagonists of that payday goat simulator game, fucking called it.
>Goats are just a reskin for bags
>Everyone still going nuts
At least it's a fucking new heist.
Daily dose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCeBoH3zdl4
The creator of the group thought the group went to shit and was not salvageable. He kicked 800-900 people until realizing that creating a new one was less complicated. Now, people are giving him the Almir's treatment.
No that's another issue. Max was just a nobody claiming he was banned for talking about unreleased content while the forum mods claims he was banned multiple times because he was spamming anyone about it for no reasons.
>next payday tournament will be in eight days,
inb4 it will about the incoming Goat heist on DW and it's gonna be grinderfags who will get the first prize.
You guys must be new here.
Multiple pellets hitting the same target don't do more damage.
One 33 dmg pellet = 33 dmg
Two 33 dmg pellets = 33 dmg
A million 33 dmg pellets = 33 dmg
Only time multiple pellets might matter is if one pellet is a bodyshot and another is a headshot. Then you deal headshot damage.
This is why accuracy on shotguns is undesirable. Only one pellet has to hit a cop, so you want the widest spread possible for maximum room clear.
I usually don't bother shooting cops that are too far away for ammo pickups.
Same reason why I don't fire out the windows in Rats Day 1 and bitch that my akimbo deagles don't have enough ammo for 7 bags of meth.
The crossbowfag, nobody want to use them unironically
Anyone wanna work with the publisher Borks?
Your life has all been leading up to this moment.
Within 1 minute of escape truck arriving =/= escape car arrives within one minute of the heist starting.
Within 4 minutes from when the escape car is available =/= the escape car is available within 4 minutes of the heist starting.
>Increased the performance of all heists by optimizing the textures of all in-game characters,
Been two years since i waited for this Overkill.
>mfw bought it after listening to Simon's new tracks,
Yeah, i've been trying the GSPS too and it's really inferior to the Loco. Shit is on the same tier as the Mateba in terms of disappointment.
>mfw goat heist is better than point break heists
Are you kitten me?
Do you remember when Payday was a serious game?
Hospital heist was a mistake.
>he doesn't like to search desperately for the last money bundle hidden around the map.
>Do you remember when Payday was a serious game?
Of all the indie games that they can make a crossover with, why Goat Simulator? Why not a crime related game like Monaco or Not a Hero?
If it was for memes, then they're fucking 3 years late.
Goat heist was okay; it would probably more fun if I didn't do it solo.
Man I'm glad I don't pay for any of this shit.
It's Coffee Stain Studios. The same guys who took a decent game concept (Sanctum) and just shat on it for the sake of consoles.
To be honest, both of them are probably at fault.
the only ones left playing this game are cheaters and weekend memers
unless you have real friends there's no point playing it since Ai are better than pugs
Pub cheaters usually go all the way in cheating.
They try to not get noticed but can't help themselves.
Giving themselves extra pistol messiah charges.
Boarding up all the windows at once.
Refilling their ammo.
Wearing the DW mask.
You don't want these shitters in your DW lobbies anyway because they're worse than dead weight.
>Unlock all dlcs means I'm bad at the game
I think you took a wrong turn the jew games aren't in /vg/
Oh that sounds shitty af, I do see people telling me to spawn money. I don't understand why you'd even do that why play the game at all.
Different anon here, personally i buy all dlc on release (apart from soundtracks and COP), but that is because payday 2 is the only game i put money in, i pirate the shit out of EVERYTHING else.
>they gave us micro transactions and rewarded those who bought them with meaninglessly small stats bonuses
This is a co-operative against AI team game. Someone else having +1 conceal more than you was negligible, and even if it wasn't, it doesn't do anything BUT help you when teamed with that person.
There's nothing worse than stamping your feet because a game added cosmetic items. Im sure there's no convincing people like you of that though.
i sure do hope you like wide open areas surrounded by snipers with objectives spread out all over the fucking place
i hope you like a secondary shotgun that's OBJECTIVELY WORSE THAN THE LOCO
god i'm so fucking happy i didn't spend money on this shit
So I stopped playing not long before the Alesso Heists and picked it up again about a week ago, did they change weapon stats since I don't remember 70+ stability being a thing, also are the ideal stats still 42/18/36?
Stats are fucked now, anon.
- Accuracy and Stability now go from 0-100
- Enemy health didn't change, but most weapons had massive damage buffs. Most shotguns had their damage nerfed, leaving Mosconi / Jocelyn / Judge as the only ones still worth a damn
- Most Assault Rifles now have shit accuracy
- Most weapons now gain 2-3% of max ammo on pickup (it used to be 2-5%)
- Most mods now have a minimal effect on weapon stats, especially damage. Silent Killer is popular
with shittersas it's one of the few ways to add enough damage to reach breakpoints