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GOAT Edition
Previous Thread: >>128316718
>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://www.pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

>Daily Dose
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/games/goat/
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Rare Pepe heist
I'm calling it now
Screencap this
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>>128414891
>People are getting mad 4chan has shifted from sekrit club counter-culture to pop-culture
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>>128414891
Art gallery pepe mod when?
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4th for saleshitters
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>General dying 300 posts on the day that a DLC is announced.
Pack your bags.
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>>128415102
It and Jew Store are easy quick cards. What's the harm?
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>>128415207
A DLC that's idiotic reddit pandering, has 1 gun, and costs 7.99
No one is excited for this, at all.
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>>128415102
Problem is that unless somebody keeps it up during the ~6 hours that yuros and burgers are asleep, it will always die at the same time everyday.
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>>128415328
>He's not excited for a new shotgun that will surely have the damage of the predator 12G and the ammo pool of the judge.
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>>128415328
Yes but at the very least someone should be mad. No one even cares enough to YEAH anymore. ded game. ded thread.
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>>128415328
But anon, 2 new songs by Simon Viklund!
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>>128415328
>7,99,
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>>128415475
That will be added to the soundtrack in 2018
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>>128415328
>reddit pandering
Not even reddit eats this shit up
This is aimed at the underage pewdiepie and markiplier audience
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15th for vocal minority
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>go to the daily dose
>the premise of the heists is Vlad, who is already established as fucking insane has hid cocaine in live goats, a step up from his already established usage of other slaughter animals to transport things
This is what everyone is so worked up about?
Really?
Fucking really?!
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>>128415793
>Chains is horrified realizing he's in a shitty colab.
>Wolf is just trying to get it over with as soon as possible.
>Hoxton wants to kill the goat as revenge.
>Dallas has been playing since beta and just can't care about anything anymore.
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>25% more XP for everyone between 12-21 January for everyone,

I think the devs didn't precise enough it was for everyone.
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>>128416270
>Guys free EXP please don't burn our house down again free EXP FREE WE AREN'T EVEN MAKING YOU PAY FOR IT
>Courtesy of the Black Market update ;)
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>>128416104
Difference between extracting coke from live goats and stuffing stuff into a dead pig.
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>>128416726
>Responding to the troll and being too stupid to point out what people are actually mad about.
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>>128416794
It's 4am, I just woke up. I don't care.

Fuck off.
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>>128416794
How am I trolling? The premise of the heist fits the setting and "lore" of the game.
The price is something to be upset about, but other than that there isn't anything.
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>>128416926
>hurr I'm fucking retarded stop pointing it out.
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How is the playerbase ?
Is it dying ?
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>>128417120
Lively but autistic.
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>>128417120
Dead.
Dying.
Deceased.
Decrepit.
Deposed.
Dissolved.
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>tfw gambler techforcer
>tfw I'll never be appreciated for it.
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>>128417120
General is on its death bed but the devs keep swimming in money. At least we aren't the steam forums or facepunch.

I just wish to play Undercover or Green bridge before the devs escape on the Walking dead game.
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>mfw surviving a FWB game just because the host is lagging like crazy,
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>>128417530
>implying a techforcer without Muscle or Armorer is a real techforcer
Bet you don't even get Bulletproof because you wasted your shit on sentry upgrades.
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>>128417882
>not taking the support deck on the support build
>building sentries ever.
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>>128417978
>Techforcers
>support
I am getting sick of the "lol im a techie xD" meme.
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>>128417631
>steam forums
Steam forums hated Overkill until Trashley banned everyone during the Point Break lead up.
>or facepunch.
>Acting like Facepunch has ever mattered.
I bet you think SA is still relevant to anything.
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>>128418545
>implying techforcers aren't the best support objectivesbro with their c4, saw and many other "shortcut makers"
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>>128419372
>support
In this day everyone a tank-healer-damage dealer thanks to a miracle that is grinder.
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>>128419512
>implying that techforcer grinder isn't a good combo
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>>128419701
>implying implications
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>>128419743
No seriously, it's good. Promises.
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>threads don't even reach the bump limit anymore
Is this the end?
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>>128420127
Only for the rogue and armorfags communities.
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>Mud and shit effects,

Nice technology Ovk.
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>Fugitive will have a tier 5 skill that allocates Akimbos as Secondaries
y/n?
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>>128420907
>four deagles
who the fuck cares
meta is dead, do whatever the fuck you want
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This game officially dieded
rip in piece
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>>128420907
>needing to have 2 pistols that could do the job of one.

absolutely no.
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>mfw Goat Simulator, Payday, John Wick, Hotline Miami, Walking Dead and Point Break all take place in the same universe,
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>>128422494
>We'll never get No Mercy in PD2.
>But we'll get a cheap Walking Dead heist when the game comes out.
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>>128422635
>implying it won't be just another character pack with a mask, an useless melee weapon and another Assault Rifle just like with the Jacket one.
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Hey guys, what if the dlc end up being actually good ?
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>tfw it will be almost four years since the last ARG from the first game and still no retarded easter egg to chase after just like with BF4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuuzmOXL1bc

Guess there won't be any secrets in this game ever.
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>>128423032
>I'm not a shill I swear!
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>He was always on the vuvuzela, so my thanks,
>Come on you kaks.

There is no way that the Locke character isn't ironic considering how much he's annoying and a cunt.
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>>128425958
Find those FUCKING bundles
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>hey guys, it's good and fun....I swear !
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>>128427231
>WHY YOU DON'T LIKE MY VINTAGE MAYMAYS??
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>>128427231
Sadly, ovk has blown their creative load on pdth. Heisting will never be like it used to be. Enjoy your reasonably priced random shit.
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>goat heist
MEMEDAY 2
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>>128428048
Been a long time since the game is a meme. Still blame the Car-4 for this.
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>>128427231
>and it's not even out yet!
>and we hope you'll enjoy the content too when you get to try it.
>create the tone we want to have in the forums
>If the forums are hostile, developers will shy away from engaging.
>you need to help us create the right setting
>We look forward seeing what you think when you've gotten to play them.
>Thanks again for all the initial feedback! Looking forward to hearing what all of oyu think when you've tried it out.
He is such a passive aggressive fucking faggot cunt that I sincerely hope he dies jesus titty fucking christ.
>>128427739
>reasonably priced
When your DLC catalog costs more than 3x the price of the game you're selling then you don't get to call it "reasonably priced".
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>only five achievements for a 2-day heist dlc,

Remember the times when we had like ten achievements difficult per dlc that needed lot of time to farm kills and mods ? I kinda missed it, especially the ones like doctor miserable or Entrapment.
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>>128429058
Making achievements that aren't just
>Complete the heist
>Complete the heist on Deathwish
>Complete the heist after finding the SECRET ITEM
>Complete the heist with no skills and XYZ loadout on Overkill or DW.
or
>You found the HIDDEN MEME BRO.
takes effort.
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>>128429225
>entrapment and twelve angry minutes or walk faster
>any effort
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Where's your Silent Killer/The professionnal gods now ?
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>>128430491
>88.2
lmao what a gay
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>>128430619
>what are breakpoints ?
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>>128430787
You mean the ones that are starting from 91? You're not an OVK babby, are you?
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Are you supposed to grab infamy as soon as possible or are there any benefits for sticking around?
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>>128431272
grab infamy as soon as possible. You'll always get the time to do DW heists and complicated challenges later.
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>>128430491
How is this better than the deagle?
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>>128431272
You should waste your money before infamy 1-5 though.
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>>128431479
Bigger ammo pool and it can go full-auto.
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Payday 2 is getting worse from those dlcs, it was fun at the begining when it was a team based hard game but then almir saw that having a money sandwich and a money shower is better so he decided to fuck up the game with his idiotic dlcs. We are all waiting something new but the whole community is pissed of from those dlcs. MAKE A NEW FLlCKlNG GAME GOD DAMMIT. Stop with payday 2 everyone hate it now. Do you remember GENERALMCBADASS? He was a true payday 2 player. EVERY Single day a new pd2 video. DLC after DLC he makes less pd2 videos and guess what. 1 week and no pd2 vids from him. YOU ARE RUNING PD2 SO JUST STOP THIS
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>>128432073
I get the feeling this is ripped from a russian thread on the steam hub.
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>>128425958
yeah
for sure
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>>128427231
>light hearted
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>>128430491
Right here buddy
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>>128432725
>That skin
I hope you're atleast using the unlocker.
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>>128432725
Just go farm those weapon mods with jewstore normal or side jobs already.
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>>128432235
FO SHO
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>>128429058
>To unlock this weapon mod, you need to complete the heist on DW difficulty while you and your crew wear the dlc meme masks using the dildo rifle and polkarov pistol
Gee, I sure loved them cheevos.
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>>128432725
>108 DMG
Useless. The next dmg breakpoint is 121 for the greys.
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Why is it we're the most civil of all the PD2 communities?
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>>128270503
>>128270778
>>128271238
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Caribbean Pirate (caribbean_pirate)
- Speedlock Holmes (slakt_1)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>128434523
Because we're dead.
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>>128434996
spooky
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New monthly when?
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>>128435709
Never
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>>128434689
You know, the concept of doing existing achievements and/or some kill grinding for petty cash and a mod isn't so bad. But the fact that it's only a super tiny subset of the achievements is what makes it disappointing.

We thought there would be things like doing extra tasks like the hockey poster from FS Day 3, or Vlad's pig.
We thought there would be things like spontaneously doing X thing during a heist.
We thought there would be a few dozen of these extra things because of how much we'd go through during Spring Break.
Maybe make them show up on every heist (e.g. like the hockey poster).
Maybe make them more like "hourly jobs" and "daily jobs" to make up for the fact that the rewards are minor.
Maybe let heisters try to randomly cycle through them instead of letting them be time-locked.
Maybe have Infamous quality items be spontaneous notifications at random times of the day/week that run out in 24 hours.
Maybe have more than three Infamous masks for weekly mask rewards ever.

Side Jobs are so disappointing because they're worse than Neopets dailies.
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>>128435709
Well they came out last month so I presume sometime this month.
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>>128435981
Maybe Weekly Jobs could have been 4-man achievements to give players a reason to get together often but not too often.
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>>128432998
I got the long barrel yesterday. I just didn't bother to take a new screenshot. So for all tense and purpose it is "perfect"
>>128434060
Other than the M308 there is no assault rifle that can
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>>128437069
Then stick to 80 and stop wasting points in meme skills, reddit.
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>>128437069
intents and purposes
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>>128437401
Whatever
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>>128437217
>memeskills
>m308 clears all break points in the game, but only if you're using Silent Killer Aced

>memeskills
>Breakpoints are the be all end all

Pick one and only one.
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>>128437569
I'm just saiyan
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>Cloaker
>Doesn't use a cloaking device
>>
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>>128440293
They clearly don't need one since pubs keep getting downed by the same Cloaker at the same spawn over and over and over and over again.
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>>128440373
Watching a single Cloaker down someone and then the multiple people that try to revive the first guy is art in its purest form
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>>128434060
Yeah, fucking right.
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>Overkill announces a totally optional heist, which doesn't affect previous heists nor the core gameplay whatsoever
>it's also free to join without buying the DLC
>steam, reddit, and /pdg/ starts bitching about "muh immersion" and jew devs
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>>128440776
> muh immersion
> lab rats exists
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>>128440867
>another optional heist
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>>128440372
Oh boy do I LOVE memes
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>>128440776
>Muh immersion
>Payday 2

No one actually thinks like that right?
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>>128440293
>Interact with the computer on FF day 3 loud,
>hear a clocker's charging sound,
>see him literally coming out of the floor, instantly kicking me,

Fuck you Overkill, i'm a good goy and a good player, i didn't deserved this.
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>>128440372
He needs to die.
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>>128440702
>implying it's worth investing 12 skill points,

Why not just use the M308 at that point ?
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>>128442870
>>128437903
Why not use those 12 points and meet them all
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>>128442870
I just posted the image to say that there are other breakpoints. Silencer skills are a fucking waste.
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So what does /pdg/ have against doing missions in stealth?
Legit question.

Prefer to just shoot?
Find it difficult to stealth due to broken mechanics?
Can't be bothered to get all the way to the end for someone to fuck it up?

I ask this because every time I try to find people to play Overkill stealth with all I get is the whole "go to Reddit" response.
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>>128443925
The only issue I've had playing stealth with someone is when there's a noticeable ping difference, it can mess things up easier than playing loud
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>>128443925
Depends on the heist, but stealth is boring and stupid once you played through the whole game.

Also only OVK stealth? There is zero reason to bother with sub-DW (except for certain achs on Normal and difficulty masks) because the difficulty is basically the same. Only changes that'd matter would be Titan Safes and cameras showing up but then that means you want to rush it, not do real stealth.
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>goat simulator crossover
Why do you still play this shit game?
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>>128443925
Considering how the difficulty is decent on Overkill, it's not worth to lose time stealthing apart if you're one of those guy who really want to get the gold on those elephant jobs,

On Dw, that's another subject.
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>>128443925
I used to be a career stealthfag.

Was a Techghost main all the way through I-100 before Infamy 2.0 came out. Did shit like loud DW Transports in a Flak Jacket and stupid shit like that. I stealthed everything that can be stealthed for the sake of stealthing it.

After I switched to loud builds, I never looked back. Because stealth is a lot of bullshit mechanics and if you fail, you have to restart because there is no partial credit, you have to start over from square one. On one hand, that makes sense, on the other, it's just tediously boring. And then there's the problem where stealthing with more than one person is a huge shitshow. Nobody ever listens to directions, always get caught, and even if you have seasoned competent stealthers, some bullshit always springs up last minute and it all goes to hell. And then you realise that you spent 1hr+ restarting the heist over a dozen times and the final successful run took 40+ minutes.

Why bother with unfun shit like that instead of shooting it up for 20 minutes? You get more exp total for doing it loud on any heist, other than the Elephant's two stealth heists, there is zero reward for stealthing compared to doing it loud.

And then there's the problem where 90% of the stealth heists can be ECM rushed except for the ones that were explicitly made to prevent that because devs were butthurt that 4-man ECM rushing is a thing.

You see video listings of people "speedrunning" stealth heists that take like 10-20 minutes but you ask yourself "Why don't they just ECM rush it? This is boring and inefficient anyway."

That and OVK's idea of stealth difficulty is adding more guards and more fetch quests. "Oh this heist is harder because you have to run back and forth 12 more times than the next hardest stealth heist ;)" It's not fun at all.
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>>128445867
>implying that the Golden Grin Casino isn't the best stealth heist with the most diverse and fun objectives ever,
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>>128447320
GGC is most definitely not a fun stealth heist.
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>>128445867
Why I stopped stealthing.

√ I'm not a robot
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>>128447320
>Golden Grin
>Best anything.
The music has a great assault lead in and then it's alright but everything else about that heist is a constant disappointment.
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>>128440776
people tend to have a hard time accepting the idea of seeing a Heat-crew like chasing goats. Even more than seeing Hoxton helping his other self escaping prison.
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>>128447320
Golden grin is the best heist at killing my framerate
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>>128448927
>mfw there was multiple updates trying to improve the optimization on this job.

Thanks again for all those months of hard work LGL.
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>>128445867
This. Stealth is still fun occasionally, and I have the same story about mostly stealthing to infamy 3 or 4. But going loud OVK is more profitable than stealthing DW because it takes far less time, is more fun, and faster. Not to mention you can't stealth the big payouts for xp/cash like rats/hoxout/HM. It can be fun, but it's not worth it
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>>128448927
I use a gtx610 on medium texture quality and don't have a problem with golden grin.

I spend most of the time gambling for 300k slots but my team picks up the slack on killing doods.
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>>128449765
Sorry for repeating myself, I should go back to bed... it's just sad that the payout is shit, especially with the whole 1 mess up equals a full restart no matter how much time you've sunk into this run
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>haven't played PD2 in a while, since all that crimefest shit went down
>minding my own business on Steam
>Get a popup for an event
>Click it
>Goat simulator shit

What in the actual 7 hells of fuck is going on
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DAY 2
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>>128414306
pffft, check the likes to dislikes ratio on the goat simulator version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxHNydGoTFc
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>As a part of this awesome collaboration, Coffee Stain Studios have made a PAYDAY-inspired DLC for Goat Simulator.
>awesome
>This is day 2.
Burn it DOWN
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>>128450721
2dank4me
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>>128450721
WTF FUCKING MEME GAME HAS BETTER GRAPHICS THAN PAYDAY 2
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>Wahh vlad is a meme now

Hasnt he pretty much always been fucking nuts

Like his drunk rambling and LIKE A FUCKING SPUTNIK
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>>128451468
>that trailer,
Guess the steam forums will go nuclear tonight.
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>>128450721
>Goat-Shotgun
d r o p p e d
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Hey guys, what if, i mean what if we're going akimbo street howitzers with this dlc ?
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>>128452112
They've been nuclear since october
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WTF, the payday dlc for goat simulator has like 3 times more content than payday itself.
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From Almir
Taken from the PD2 steam forum:

<Quote

Thanks for the initial feedback! Heisters!

There's been a TON of feedback on our latest DLC, the Goat Simulator >Heist - and it's not even out yet! The last DLC we did, the Point Break DLC, was about two really serious heists. This time, we wanted to do a >two-day heist that was more light hearted. Being able to collaborate with our friends at Coffee Stain Studios on doing this has been a joy for us, >and we hope you'll enjoy the content too when you get to try it.

We're happy you guys voice your opinions and that you say what you think. However, please remember to do so in a civilized manner adhering to the forum rules and etiquette.

Remember that you help us create the tone we want to have in the forums. Generally speaking, if the tone is polite and nice, developers will flock like sheep and talk more. If the forums are hostile, developers will shy away from engaging. This goes not only for our official forum (the Steamhub), but any other forum where players would like us to engage in. We want to take part and involve ourselves in your discussions, but you need to help us create the right setting to do so.

We completely understand the "WTF"-reaction from you guys regarding this collaboration. This is a WEIRD and an unexpected collaboration! But we had a lot of fun creating these heists. We hope you'll have fun playing them. We look forward seeing what you think when you've gotten to play them.

Thanks again for all the initial feedback! Looking forward to hearing what all of you think when you've tried it out. end Quote.
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>>128450836
>Snatch
eyy
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>>128452747
Ashley why are you trying to quote mid sentence.
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>>128452967
I'm not Ashely, pulled it from the forums though
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>>128452747
Literally from the forums http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/458606248616408446/
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jesus
fucking
christ
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I give up on videogames.
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>>128452747
You're late
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what
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>>128444548
Yeah I meant DW instead of OK, my bad got confused which was round they were...
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>>128453363
>All these spergs dropping spaghetti about this dlc and who take the game and themselves entirely too seriously
Lighten up assclowns.
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>>128453234
He couldn't be any more full of shit if he was a sewage pipe. I feel like we should be allowed to take money from him for that post.
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PALMS ARE SWEATY
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>Price went down to $5
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>>128454245
No, no, no, my dear sweet summer child.
That's for Coffee Stain's DLC for Goat Sim, not for Payday.
Completely separate DLCs, btw
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>>128454101
I just want my lighthearted but serious heist game back, not this wacky shit.
>>128454245
Goat sim payday dlc = $5
Payday goat sim dlc = 6.99
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>>128453805
>Central Intelligence Agency logo in the background
Bane heister when?
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>>128454245
>he doesn't know
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>>128454414
>Vlad is insane
>Was using dead animals to move product
>If people can shove coke up their ass, why can't goats?!
There's nothing overtly "too whacky" in this DLC. You and the rest of the community need to get that stick out of your asses.
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>>128454769
>dead animals
They look very much alive to me.
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>>128454860
>Doesn't know what past tense is
>Don't realize I'm referring to slaughterhous
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>>128454769
We went from infiltrating a police department in the middle of the night to steal a server holding precious leads to a bank, to chasing farm animals so that we can pull coke out of their asses. There is an obvious difference in tone between the two and if you can't see it, I don't know what to tell you.
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>>128447320
This anon gets it. People just dislike it because shitty payout but its a great heist.
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>>128454967
>vlad missions have always been serious
No.
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>>128454967
We also escorted a completely oblivious to gunfire drunk fuck who was shot down by aliens. Robbed banks while wearing wacky masks. Beat people up with swords and hockey sticks.
I'm on your side as I still want my heisting game but let's be honest, the tone of the game has been out of control for a long time.
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>>128454860
>>128454967
>taking the bait.
Stop posting.
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>>128455439
>people called me out for being an autistic sperg
>B-bait.
No, grow up.
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So what was actually revealed today?
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>>128457103
Goat simulator now includes Payday. And GTA. Mostly GTA actually.
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>>128457103
Nothing.
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>>128457485
So nothing in payday?
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>>128457845
wow not owning goat simulator and being hyped for this what a fun hating fruit cake stop being so serious
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>>128457845
Nothing, the real talk about the weapon, masks and stuff will be tomorrow.

Also pic very related about the state of your computer when the time will come.
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>>128458089
>letting it update
>not uninstalling and downloading already updated game in 10 minutes
What's it like to have shit internet?
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>>128454769
Only whacky part are the "lol so random" goats models that come straight from the other game. The mix between the two games end up being a bit too weird, although we still don't know about the results about the gameplay.
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>FS day 3
>Look for packages because host wanted to stealth so its boring
>One guy wants to do "It's getting hot in here"
>Suggest that we do it if he finds the last package
>He found it 30 seconds before the drill finished
Thar was the last interesting game I had in pubs
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>>128454967
The only thing that tried to make Payday even remotely serious was the live action series

You dont like the goat sim crossover, or its price, or both I get that and thats pretty understandable, but dont try to pretend like this heist ruined muh serious dark souls of heist games
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>>128458573
>that feel when a saleshitter i tried to help weeks ago NTR'ed me by preferring some XXV-100 PPshitter, using hacks to stealth Big Oil DW.

Guess that having grinder or a saw is just not enough for the young generations.
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>>128430857
>underdog
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>>128453363
>enforcer's on a wheelchairs

Don't act dumb
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>>128430491
>>128432725
As long as it only carries 100 ammo, this gun will always be shit.
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>>128461434
>implying that 100 ammo pool isn't good enough considering the 80 damage,

just set it to single-fire if you have this much problems with the ammo pool.
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truly epic update
i like memes
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But seriously though, what did Day 2 reveal?

New character pack?
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>>128463185
goatpayday.com
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>>128463185
It revealed that Overkill does not care about us one bit anymore, not even as goyim, and they got their money so now they are just seeing what else they can get away with.
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>Day 2 isn't the shotgun
>Is just shilling the new DLC of Goat Simulator being about Payday
>Their DLC is cheaper
GODDAMMIT YOU FUCKING RETARDS
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>>128463185
It revealed only the other side of the collaboration.

If there was any character packs planned, they wouldn't hide it like that.
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Does anyone know how much amount of damage you have to inflict on the cars at the beginning of Slaughterhouse in order to reduce the spawn of the murkies ?

Not sure if it's damage or just a number of bullets.
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>>128467751
Can you do that? I know that you can shot the the truck that carries the gold but that's all

Anyways, aim at the WINDSHIELD always
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>you can actually delay the alert of the police on Hotline miami day one by not moving from the spawn point, giving you a minute to shoot the russians before the police is alerted.

Still sucks you can't stealth the mobster part of the heist.
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>>128468332
Yeah, after shooting them enough, some are having accidents while other simply have their engine smoking. It was more useful in the first game anyway since you couldn't rush that easily unlike the second game with dodge or grinder.
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>>128467751
Why does it matter? Murkie spawns are finite and only at the start of the heist.
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>>128465731
>Nothing to give us hype or something to talk about
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>>128462292
Then just use the 170 damage m308 then. Jesus fuck.
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>BUWING
What did the Korean mean by this?
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>>128463483
>let's try and do something fun for our community!
>apparently they hate fun.
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>>128472416
Hi Almir
>>
>people still play this game

explain yourselves
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>>128472795
You could tell them your perfect DLC down to the letter, and they could make it exactly like that.
You'd still bitch and moan.
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>>128455436
not aliens you sperg he crashed against santa why would vlad care abouts some shitty bobbleheads and plushies
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>>128473249
Crashing into "Santa" is as "whacky" as aliens
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>>128472902
I have DLC unlocker and Skin unlocker running. Everything they put out is 100% free, and I have the satisfaction of knowing that if Overkill believes in the piracy=theft notion that I'm passively stealing from crooks.
>>128473249
>Excuse me as I bite down on this hook.
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>>128473559
i am not saying it isnt wacky just that santa makes some sense when you are talking about a xmas heist
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>>128473637
there are much better games you can waste your time on
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>>128473637
That's really fucking NEETo
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>>128474412
What like Killing Floor 2?
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>>128473637
Gimme a link to the DLC unlocker familia, I've been meaning to get one for a while.
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>>128475674
Literally PP
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>>128475674
www.google.com
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Just hopped on again after a brief hiatus to see where weapons are, what the fuck happened to the Loco.
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>>128476529
What about it? Didn't think the Loco suffered much from the Fuckkening.
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>>128476891
I was playing a few heists between Very Hard/OVK and seemed like it didn't pack as much punch before, Judge seems like a straight upgrade preference-wise.

Don't know if it's the spread or what, Judge seemed to one-hit everything while Loco needed a follow-up shot a third of the time. Could be my aiming since I have been playing other games previously but fuck.
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>>128477864
You got to have Overkill if you want full power Loco back. It's on the same damage level of the Reinfeld now but still faster. Use the Macaroni or Joceline if you don't want to spend the 4 points.
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>>128477864
What's the build on the Loco? Maybe the stats dropped below a breakpoint you were used to.
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>>128478083
Also forgot to mention if you want a secondary shotty that you don't want to spend the Overkill points on then go Judge, it wasn't really nerfed.
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How does oppressor works
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>>128478851
It increases the chance of enemies moving and trying to dodge your shots. Threat is shit like that.
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Remember that guy was saying bodhi always spawning in his game? I play HM DW and bodhi spawn in both days
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>>128479112
So, what is the skill that makes them cower in fear?
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>>128479219
It's in perk decks exclusively I think.
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>>128479219
Disturbing the Peace in the muscle perk derk
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>>128479380
>>128479395
Well that sucks, thanks anyways
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>>128479219
Muscle perk deck.
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>>128472135
It's just an onomatopoeia. Young korean ladies often say it to pretend to be cute.
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>tfw everyone makes fun of you doing sniper/lmg + smg techforcer
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hhohoho
i haven't posted here in a while but goddamn

goat simulator collaboration?
aahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha
>$6.99

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpIB50VzYGs
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>>128419701
>>128419743
This, niggers.
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mda:eqSpkLHIeFDa:tOpmhIJFGCda:ghECda:feGCa:ibcdea:pN8::w76::a1
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>>128485949
Grinder works with everything, because grinder is overtuned op bullshit.
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Why haven't you sold your safes /pdg/?
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>>128488581
Because I'm waiting to open them like a good goy on pay day.
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>>128489198
>Buy common skin instead of the drill
>Save 4 dollarydoos
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>128489870
I'm a gambler by nature. I'll be spending some on my money on scratchers, powerball, and some at the craps table.
>>
baaaaa
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>>128493265
A sheep?
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Is the new shotgun being to be shit or OP?
What do you guys think
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>>128490334
With full knowledge that your chances of getting any sort of profitable item is essentially slim to none?
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>>128495163
90% chance to be shit. 9% chance to be mediocre. 1% chance to be broken.
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I've been out of the loop since point break, anything good happen?
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>>128495520
That 1% being the only reason the DLC is worth

>>128496126
No, everything is horrible
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>>128496181
It's not worth anything. It's DLC unlocker fodder.
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>>128496181
So they never fixed weapons but continue to churn out shitty diarrhoea from their rotting prolapsed anuses?
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>>128496809
it's premium* content

*premium meaning independent** content
independent meaning made by a company worth hundreds of millions of dollars
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>>128495225
I know the odds.
Some people get a rush from running, other drugs.
The spin of the wheel does it for me, even if its just something like safes or crates
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>>128497719
saved
>>
Maybe next month will be okay
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>>128434689
>>128435981
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Doctor Fantastic (doctor_fantastic)
- Target Practice: Pistol (pistol_100_kills)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
>>
YEAH
>>
I wonder how much whining we'll get that it's another loud-only heist.
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Don't die on me /pdg/. It's only a couple more hours until the yuros wake up.
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>>128474412
Like?
>>
Be honest, /pdg/

who's gonna buy the new DLC tomorrow?
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>>128506654
Wait for sale until it's at less than 2 dollarydoos as always
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>>128506654
>Implying I haven't got the dlc unlocker
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>>128506654
Ill join someone elses lobby and try it for myself
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>>128506654
DLC unlocker.
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>>128506654
Not me. DLC Unlocker (TM).
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ye__
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>>128488581
Because you can't sold a christmas safe or drill, only the skin.

>mfw making 2,5$ out of a akimbo bernetti skin,
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>>128514063
get on my level, son
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Would you a Patchett on Overkill ?
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>>128515513
what a piece of junk
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>>128515513
no
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>>128515513
Hell I would

Would you an IZMHA 12G?
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>>128515823
>shotguns
>ever
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>>128515823
>constant reload:the shotgun,

Maybe on a techforcer build with magplus aced.
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>>128515919
>>128515938
Black dozers get you down with that, why so rude guys
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>>128516095
Our IZMHA doesn't deal 400 damage per shot, unfortunately.
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>>128516229
>FULL vanilla
>12 x 33 = 396

>Just with 000 and King’s Crown / And perk deck
>12 x 48 = 588 / x 51.45 = 653.40
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>>128516570
fucking sale babies
is this the neo-/pdg/?
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>>128516570
u wot m8
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>>128516570
>King's crown,
>caring about threat stats ever,
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>>128516229
>2016,
>Gage or Bain still didn't find the secret of the cops' s high damage Ihzma and JP36 with perfect accuracy,
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>>128516679
Yes. They all think they're hot shit. Some faggots been coming here and swearing up and down aced silent killer and aced professional are good on shitty ARs.
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>>128517682
I’m not that faggot, but >>128516570
Having on mind that the shotgun actually fires all the fucking bullets, thanks OVK coding, and that they hit all the same fucking target

Silent Killer and the professional are literally meta baits
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>>128517682
>can get the CAR-4 and the M308 to clear all break points with those skills.
I don't get how they're meme if you can do that.
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>>128516679
>implying that 500 hours XXV-100 players pretending to be experts aren't the true danger,
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>>128516679
>stop trying to have fun
>no fun allowed
>conform to the meta damn it!
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>There are people who will defend the balance in this game although everyone is using the grinder perk deck, the Mosconi and the Baby Deagle,

Just face it, everything went wrong with the Sokol character pack.
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>>128518721
That isn't true, I use .40 and Joceline For fun Mosco and Joce are the same fucking shit
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>>128518771
Joceline can get a much superior ammo pool while the Mosconi can get a very high concealment stat (27 or 28) making it perfect for stealth or fugitive builds.
Even if the differences are small, you can still pretend they have their uses.
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>Join pub FOR FUN
>FWB on normal
>2 bitches below 50 and the other below 60
>Buy ALL the assets even when everyone is going loud
>Using skins in both weapons
>DLC character
>One sperg says "the fuck with this dumbass"
>Reply "what are you, poor?"
>Get kicked
Not even mad

Post pub stories
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>>128518721
Everything else is fine, really. Grinder is what's really bullshit.
You can make silent killer LMG builds work simply by the virtue of grinder.
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Is the Crook perk deck any good ?
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>>128519008
>join an over kill bank heist
>everyone but me isn't even infamy 1
>go techforcer to open all the deposit boxes
>one gets downed, then another, then another.
>leave the vault to see what the fuck happened
>they're all in tear gas
>go back into the vault and wait for the assault to end and get them all out of custody
>the host starts bitching about me being useless for not getting them up in the first place
>kicks me.
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>>128519008
>join pub FOR FUN
>nightclub on ovk
>everyone below lvl 50
>bring rpg
>all 3 fixing the drill
>fire rpg
>everyone downed
>"YOU JUST GOT MEMED LOL XD"
>mfw i ran around at the speed of sound
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>>128519303
I use it with aced Berserker and it's pretty tight. The increased damage makes up for having very little durability.
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>>128519303
>is [perk deck that ain't muscle/grinder] any good?
no.
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>>128520152
That deck guide in the op says otherwise.
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>>128519008
>Join a Beneath the Mountain DW game,
>host ask us to use the preplanning feature, claiming he doesn't know shit about where to put them,
>mfw as i just slap as much medic pack as possible on the end of the level since it's really the part where everything usually go wrong,

Locke a qt.
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>>128520314
>trusting a guide that tells you gambler, infiltrator and rogue are top tier
>trusting a guide that tells something without health regen is top tier

Are we talking seriously or do you want to stick to overkill?
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>>128520792
Quit being a shitter, dude.
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>>128520792
>implying they're not
>literally being a shitter that needs to be carried by grinder or muscle
Git gud faggot.
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>>128520889
You asked something, I answered correctly. Not my fault if the op is wrong.
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>>128521026
>the general is one person
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>>128519008
>want to play payday
>remember the game is fucked
>no longer want to play payday
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>>128520792
>infiltrator,
>not god-tier,

So you're saying that a 20% health regen for every 10 secs, a 40% melee damage bonus max and a damage reduction being as good as the armorer perk deck is not enough ?
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>>128521548
>want to play payday,
>remember autists are still triggered by MT, even months after this,
>still enjoy the game,
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Friendly reminder that the best gun in the game requires no DLC.
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Started playing about a week ago and having a blast.

Why is everyone saying the game is in shambles? Is it just the standard attitude with every game on /vg/ or are there legit complaints?
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>>128522725
Powercreep and the game losing its identity.
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>>128522725
>Why is everyone saying the game is in shambles?

The Black Market update and the incoming goat simulator dlc kinda shook the community but ignore those complains, game is still fun and all.

Maybe a difficulty spike would make everyone happy again.
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>>128523376
GAGE Heist DLC when
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The four masks we will get today will be the heads of the four protagonists of that payday goat simulator game, fucking called it.
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>New heist
>Goats are just a reskin for bags
>Everyone still going nuts

At least it's a fucking new heist.
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Daily dose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCeBoH3zdl4
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R.I.P. The Vocal Minority group
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>>128527042
Why
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>>128527767
The creator of the group thought the group went to shit and was not salvageable. He kicked 800-900 people until realizing that creating a new one was less complicated. Now, people are giving him the Almir's treatment.
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>>128528963
Why it went to shit, related to Max and Payday 2?
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R8 my anime Rasmus
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>>128529108
No that's another issue. Max was just a nobody claiming he was banned for talking about unreleased content while the forum mods claims he was banned multiple times because he was spamming anyone about it for no reasons.
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>next payday tournament will be in eight days,

inb4 it will about the incoming Goat heist on DW and it's gonna be grinderfags who will get the first prize.
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>>128529243
a cute
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>>128526851
LE DONAC DUMB XD
Nice meme track faggots.
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>>128529651
Next? How the last one went?
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holy shit, the thread made it through the night...
Yeah!
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>>128532741
it was cancelled
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>>128524296
>>New heist
>>Goats are just a reskin for bags

that'll be $7
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>>128516570
>>128517805
You guys must be new here.

Multiple pellets hitting the same target don't do more damage.

One 33 dmg pellet = 33 dmg
Two 33 dmg pellets = 33 dmg
A million 33 dmg pellets = 33 dmg

Only time multiple pellets might matter is if one pellet is a bodyshot and another is a headshot. Then you deal headshot damage.

This is why accuracy on shotguns is undesirable. Only one pellet has to hit a cop, so you want the widest spread possible for maximum room clear.
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new shotgun better be good or atleast not shit
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>>128536996
Accuracy is still tied with the weapon range though.
Good luck hitting shit past 10 meters with 0 accuracy.
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>>128538123
Nothing will top the Macaroni in a long time.
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>>128539994
I usually don't bother shooting cops that are too far away for ammo pickups.

Same reason why I don't fire out the windows in Rats Day 1 and bitch that my akimbo deagles don't have enough ammo for 7 bags of meth.
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Reminder to finish Au Ticket, Pork Royale, and We Do It Live for the free safe+drills while you still can before OVK phases them out today.
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>>128540145
>Picking up ammo
>Not bringing two ammo bags with ammo spec aced and murdering every single cop you see on sight
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>>128540027
It's going to be a secondary I bet
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>No one joins my HM DW pro lobby
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>>128541215
post id fuccboi
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Guess who's me
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>>128544513
Only memers from here think the Krinkov is actually good.
Protip: stop using that shitty weapon and use the mosco like everyone else.
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>>128544870
It's really good actually been using it for a long time on DW
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I want to suck almir's cock
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>>128544513
The crossbowfag, nobody want to use them unironically
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>>128540480
New shottie already confirmed for 2ndary.
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>>128544513
>Grinder+Crossbow
>ICTV's
>m308's
>unaced doctor bag

the cancer is spreading
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>>128550050
What's wrong with crossbow
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Update soon?
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>760mb
fuck
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>>128552009
>being tricky this early.
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>>128552009
Who cares, fucking full reinstall is faster anyway.
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Damn time to cough up 7 schekels again
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>>128557320
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>On my way sensei, does that thread have afterburners ?
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>>128540427
Yeah, no.

If your weapons aren't self-sustaining, you have problems.
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update when?
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>>128559193
Now. I'm not joking.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/425840
h a p p e n i n g
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>2,2 gig
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>>128559193
>>128559248
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Predict the next cross promo
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http://www.metrojobb.se/jobb/384854-it-specialist-to-starbreeze

Anyone wanna work with the publisher Borks?
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>>128559432
What's the next big meme game, aside from the pizza robot one and the tumblr one?
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>>128559425
>10AM
what the fock
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>update is out
>still no announcement
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HAPPENING
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Came here because I saw a 2.3 gig update. What's in it?
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>>128559432
Tf2. Since they have their finger on the pluse
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>>128559887
Goats.
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>>128559887
nothing
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>>128559887
shit memes

reminder, 3 years since hitman got a buff.
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can't they do anything right
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DAY 3
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/games/goat
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>>128559887
Your life has all been leading up to this moment.
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>The Judas Shotgun - GSPS 12G
Oh fuck
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>>128561071
finally a new pump action
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>POUNCE - SIMON VIKLUND
This sounds oddly familiar
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>>128560668
>the heist is less than 5 minutes long
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>mfw goat heist
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>another pump action

nice
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>>128561214
>reading comprehension
Within 1 minute of escape truck arriving =/= escape car arrives within one minute of the heist starting.
Within 4 minutes from when the escape car is available =/= the escape car is available within 4 minutes of the heist starting.
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>Increased the performance of all heists by optimizing the textures of all in-game characters,

Been two years since i waited for this Overkill.
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>>128561071
>>128561176
>>128561708
>Vlad's pump action
>Not KS-23
You had one job overkill
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>first 2 day heist since hoxton breakout
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>>128561071
>>128561176
>>128561708

7 mag
42 total ammo
104 ROF
61.9 DMG
44 ACC
52 Stability
22 Concealment
35 threat

Nothing of value was gained that day...
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>>128562067
Before or after enforcer skills?
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>>128561993
Fuck I got a feeling this won't work nicely with my enb
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>>128562067
That's a direct upgrade from the Reinfeld, lol.
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Just like old times
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are fucking overkills update pages always supposed to run like ass i remember them being alot more smooth near launch
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Join the chat friends
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>Goat Sim DLC
Nice game retards
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So, is anyone actually gonna buy the dlc?
I know I'm not.
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Any gameplay out yet?
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>>128562971
Yea in 4 minutes
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>>128562931
>mfw bought it after listening to Simon's new tracks,
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Newsflash: new shotgun's got fuck all on loco
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>>128563129
Pounce is literally Locke and Load
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>>128562594
It's probably the 3d render of the weapons
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>>128562971
stream at /dorian_jay
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>>128563838
so it's basically a loco with smaller mag and lower rof? nice
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Hosting meme simulator in the chat
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>Increased the performance of all heists by optimizing the textures of all in-game characters

wew
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>tfw game is crashing when I start after putting the trainer on
wew laddies
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>>128564868
haha eat shit faggot
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it's just a shittier loco
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>>128559432

Undertale

Briefing;
>Alright, gang, we've just got word that a hole opened up in DC, i want you to go in and see what it's about, oh and wolf? don't fuck anymore goats.
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>>128565028
Hi, Almir!
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>>128561207
soundtrack was leaked a week or so before the DLC, you probably heard it already. I know I did.
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I-I guess no one wants to play
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>new shotgun is secondary

nice.
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>>128559432
Killing Floor 2
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the new shotgun sounds badass af

too bad it's only a loco reskin
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>seven bucks? We were hardly here!
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Goat Heist is pretty good actually

Basically a "recover the bags" type heist with reskinned bags, obviously.
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>>128566346
Its 6.99 Euros here
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>>128566560
it's also a forest tier sniperfest
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>You have to park the car in the truck to escape on day 1
fuck me
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>>128566664
loving
every
laugh
Still not going to buy the DLC but I just wanted to share the prices with you.
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>>128566706
that's my fetish
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>>128566346
cis scum
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>Day one is shit
>Day 2 is okay, you can dunk goats and the driving escape was somewhat unique
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Just finished the heist. It's pretty good.
Both days have pretty fuckhuge maps but without the terrible performance that usually comes with fuckhuge maps in the past.
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>Game crashed on day 2 when the guy arrived
Fuck now I wonder what mods causes that
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Is it worth getting back into Payday 2 at this point? How is the community nowadays like?
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>>128563838
Yeah, i've been trying the GSPS too and it's really inferior to the Loco. Shit is on the same tier as the Mateba in terms of disappointment.
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>mfw goat heist is better than point break heists
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>>128568031
how much better is it? I really liked the PB heists.
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>>128568231
Well it's better than Birth of sky atleast
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Are you kitten me?

Do you remember when Payday was a serious game?

Hospital heist was a mistake.
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>>128568527
>he doesn't like to search desperately for the last money bundle hidden around the map.
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>>128570182
>Do you remember when Payday was a serious game?
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>>128570182
>muh immersion

fuck off shit b8
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>>128559934
We already have Train.
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so how is the meme heist?
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Of all the indie games that they can make a crossover with, why Goat Simulator? Why not a crime related game like Monaco or Not a Hero? If it was for memes, then they're fucking 3 years late.
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>>128573085
Your typical "save the bags and bring them to X location" heist, but with loot bag reskins.

not bad tbqh
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Goat heist was okay; it would probably more fun if I didn't do it solo.

Man I'm glad I don't pay for any of this shit.
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new shotgun is goat
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>>128573085
heist is okay, but its just why the hell overkill had to work with goat simulator is annoying. The masks are shitty too, and the shotgun isn't much better than the loco.
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>Not using a dlc unlocker you don't get punished for using

??????????????????

The DLC is alright when I realized I didn't give these money hungry faggots any money.
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>>128574091
This.

Shotgun and heist was decent, concept and price tag was retarded.
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>>128574509
It's Coffee Stain Studios. The same guys who took a decent game concept (Sanctum) and just shat on it for the sake of consoles.

To be honest, both of them are probably at fault.
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>>128567494
the only ones left playing this game are cheaters and weekend memers

unless you have real friends there's no point playing it since Ai are better than pugs
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>>128575756
As a cheater why are cheaters a problem? I only use dlc unlocker so idk how others are. Also why not use auto kick cheaters?
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>>128575756
So much for wasting that there bandwidth. Thanks anyways!
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>>128576330
Pub cheaters usually go all the way in cheating.

They try to not get noticed but can't help themselves.

Giving themselves extra pistol messiah charges.
Boarding up all the windows at once.
Refilling their ammo.
Wearing the DW mask.
etc.

You don't want these shitters in your DW lobbies anyway because they're worse than dead weight.
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>>128576330
If you are so bad at the game you have to cheat why bother playing in the first place
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>>128577061
>Unlock all dlcs means I'm bad at the game

I think you took a wrong turn the jew games aren't in /vg/

>>128576930
Oh that sounds shitty af, I do see people telling me to spawn money. I don't understand why you'd even do that why play the game at all.
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I left after the safes were first introduced. I come back to...this. I am so sorry my friends. I hope you can find the strength to delete and move on.
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>>128577469
I need to 100% my achievements.

I am stuck for the remaining two years.

Bless your heart anon.
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>POINT BREAK 10%
>AGAIN
FUCK YOU OVERKILL
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>>128577269
>I like this game but I refuse to support it.
I see, you're just a NEET who's failed at life.
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>>128578396
>Supporting after crimefest

No thanks. Before that I actually paid for the dlcs.
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>>128578396
Different anon here, personally i buy all dlc on release (apart from soundtracks and COP), but that is because payday 2 is the only game i put money in, i pirate the shit out of EVERYTHING else.
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>>128578780
>they gave us micro transactions and rewarded those who bought them with meaninglessly small stats bonuses
This is a co-operative against AI team game. Someone else having +1 conceal more than you was negligible, and even if it wasn't, it doesn't do anything BUT help you when teamed with that person.

There's nothing worse than stamping your feet because a game added cosmetic items. Im sure there's no convincing people like you of that though.
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>>128574020
Because Goat Simulator devs are swedish. So's Dennaton. And Alesso. etc. etc.
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>>128580368
Damn I didn't know Overkill came here.
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>>128580642
Trashley comes here all the time. That's probably him shitposting without his trip.
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where were you when payday was kill?
i was at home snorting vlad coke
then phone ring
"payday is kill"
no
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>>128570395
What gay porn promo poster was this from again?
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>>128580910
>>/reddit/
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heist is p good
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>Goat Simulator includes PRO
>Wow its fucking nothing
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>Motherfucking goat gets me down
>GAME CRASHES
10/10 would buy
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i sure do hope you like wide open areas surrounded by snipers with objectives spread out all over the fucking place

i hope you like a secondary shotgun that's OBJECTIVELY WORSE THAN THE LOCO

god i'm so fucking happy i didn't spend money on this shit
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>>128582229
>ANOTHER FUCKING CRASH
GODDDAMMIT, WHO ELSE IS CRASHING ON THIS HEIST
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>>128582659
>i sure do hope you like wide open areas surrounded by snipers with objectives spread out all over the fucking place
So...it's like Forest or White Xmas.
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>>128582659
>i sure do hope you like wide open areas surrounded by snipers with objectives spread out all over the fucking place
>he doesn't watch his 6
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So I stopped playing not long before the Alesso Heists and picked it up again about a week ago, did they change weapon stats since I don't remember 70+ stability being a thing, also are the ideal stats still 42/18/36?
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>>128584531
Stability and Accuracy are now flat 0-100 stats. No multipliers, nothing.
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>>128584531

Stats are fucked now, anon.

- Accuracy and Stability now go from 0-100

- Enemy health didn't change, but most weapons had massive damage buffs. Most shotguns had their damage nerfed, leaving Mosconi / Jocelyn / Judge as the only ones still worth a damn

- Most Assault Rifles now have shit accuracy

- Most weapons now gain 2-3% of max ammo on pickup (it used to be 2-5%)

- Most mods now have a minimal effect on weapon stats, especially damage. Silent Killer is popular with shitters as it's one of the few ways to add enough damage to reach breakpoints
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>>128585236
>Silent Killer is popular with shitters as it's one of the few ways to add enough damage to reach breakpoints
How is it bad then?
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