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>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2
>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
>Perk Deck Guide:
>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
>Latest Updates Here:
>Mods and Lua:
>OVK rats for the daily
>Cloaker rushes through everyone at me
>Get inspired up
>cloaker instantly drop kicks me
>get inspired up
>cloaker instantly drop kicks me
>You were put into custody
>"wow, such fucking trash."
>-you were kicked from the game.
I did it, I found a community worse then League of Legends!
Oh sure, they can go wherever, but they can't go anywhere they'd want to. Way I see it they can either make something nonsensical and stupid, but fun, or somewhere that ties into the plot but is sort of boring when compared to Illuminati conspiracies and daylight jailbreaks.
Yeah I know. I can't do any DW heists or even OVK rats.
23th for the best heister of the gang
>tfw going on a Big Kahuna rampage with friends on Hoxtolicious Breakout Overkill,
Pump-action shotguns are still shit-tier but damn that was still fun.
>Cloakers in PD:TH
>Spawns away from heisters.
>Picks an ambush position and waits.
>Takes out a single heister.
>Cloakers in PD2
>Spawns right on your position or right next to you.
>Sprints directly towards where it last saw you.
>Chain kicks 4 people down.
>Chain kicks 4 shitters down.
ftfy ; Whenever you see someone getting cockered at the other end of the map, you're not supposed to rush like an idiot unless if you have inspire aced of course.
>PD:TH - Depending on where they are downed, reviving a teammate ranges from 'somewhat dicey' to 'fucking impossible'
>PD2 - Some shithead with Grinder, an LBV, and Inspire Ace runs around spamming F and the only real danger is that some maps are large enough that one can potentially be too far away to get at before they go into custody
>implying there is anything wrong with a Sniper/Smg Techforcer build,
Daily reminder that AA12 users are Assault Riflesfags in denial.
>tfw we will never get the full version of "Steal from the richs, give to myself"
>use smg specialist on the Micro-uzi,
>get instant-reload times,
SMG confirmed for being the most underrated weapon class of the game.
Apart from just doing more chill jobs and seeing Garnet going more and more extreme into fighting the payday gang, the scenario is a bit stuck so far. Wouldn't be surprising they expand on the Locke character, giving more heists where he acts like a snake.
Simon was recently commissioned by the devs for two others songs so there is at least one heist confirmed for very soon.
>mfw learning Bain failure's lines on Rats Lab with pubbies,
Rats Lab confirmed for being only playable with friends, it's that awful.
>tell pubbies to not touch the ingredients,
>see him throwing a Cs into the Hcl hole,
>mfw as i hear the "Well in the annals of criminal cock-ups, that ranks high. I can hear the cops laughing from here. Better luck next time" while i see the shitter quitting the game.
Feels a bit funny but still shit.
>be intrigued by this
>Point it at a black dozer's face
>pull the trigger
>with smg spec aced fires so fast he dies in 2 seconds and with the 100 stability there's 0 recoil
This is the tits.
Who /microsoftJacket/ here ?
the shitpost sure is strong in here
Every post I make is of the highest quality, anon.
>now we need....shitposting.
>wrong guess, by elimination, it was namefags, got any of that around ?
I’m new to Lobbystats
When I’m heisting, it shows "Bain’s Plan" but shit is too small, how do I fix this
>Doing the heist on stealth
>Muh deposit boxes
>Houston Bot goes through a fucking window alerting civs
>he doesn't fully control the map before emptying the vault on Bank Heist,
So... is this a noob trap weapon
Because I really like it and need to know if I should hate myself for it
>that fake wood effect,
No, it's more like a meta weapon. Using Silent Killer IS the noob trap.
It doesn't have the piercing an actual sniper rifle has and a beagle can match the same damage breakpoints while having a bigger mag and faster reload. It's pretty niche considering the superior primaries you could have.
>The wood skin turns several of the attachments into wood.
Car-4 for the 150 ammo AR category, AK 7.62 for the 80 damages ones.
All requires Enforcer's skills to be good but all are insanely fun apart from the M1014, Predator's 12G and Street Sweeper,
R93/Nagant are the most balanced.
Bernettis or Baby Deagles, Leo can be nice if you have gunslinger aced, dealing 80 damage and benefiting from a extended mag with no concealment loss.
Micro-uzi, Para or Krinkov are all good, balanced choices. Can't go wrong with them.
It's been two years and it does shit. Just stay away from them, odds are high they speak russian too.
>mfw the Eagle Heavy can't even hit max stability,
At least the damage are fine now. Fuck the old days when it could only hit 68 damage max.
>implying the Fal can't be meta on the Overkill difficulty.
How can anyone find this shit funny or good.
>jacket get released in march,
>it's been months since any voices updates,
>you get a mod that add a bit of novelty into the character,
Also bit of trivia: the creator fucked off after the release of the black market update, saying microtransactions killed his creativity and all will to update his mod.
Why is the smg reload skill in the ghost tree? Pistols are stronger and more concealable. It makes more sense to put it in the tech tree since they hardly have any weapon improvement skills and are more likely to have a special category weapon or a sniper as a primary, making an smg a good higher RoF counterpart
>micro-transactions ruined this game.
I can't wrap my head around people believing +4 stability/accuracy or +1 conceal is anyway game breaking.
These are the same kind of people who used SAM for every mod because because fuck trying for progression, give me my instant gratification, like that doesn't fuck with the balance at all.
>need silencers to do a proper stealth
>they lower your conceal.
Logically, yes it makes sense but really, that so counter productive. Weapon cases that let you store your primary/secondary until shit hits the fan when?
>Why is the smg reload skill in the ghost tree?
To just feel the void. It was clear some logic was put originally into the skill-trees like the MM using pistols, Enforcers shotguns, Technicians the M308 but for the Smg, it was just because the devs, aka the same guy who considered the "moving target" skill didn't deserve to get changed or buffed, felt like it.
>I can't wrap my head around people believing +4 stability/accuracy or +1 conceal is anyway game breaking.
A +1 or +3 concealment bonus can really meant something if someone is into SB/LB builds but they would never give a real advantage over other players, even if it made crits hits easier for the flamethrower or minigun users.
People were confused about the rebalance and the new meta anyway, the lack of explanation of the logic from the devs and the new stat bonuses appearing from nowhere didn't help the situation.
>needing guides to cook
So you played for like 15 hours? You just have to wait for his second line if he doesn't say that he made a mistake he'll be always right no matter what
>okay now acid uhhh i think
>you guys have that around?
>uhhh i think its soda now
>no wait that its actually hydrogen cloride sorry
Don't bother explaining.
Even with the old system, people would argue for days here about how Bain can "be wrong" and how you can't guarantee a voice line matched to an ingredient so you'd have to listen to it a few times just to make sure even though that was objectively wrong.
You just tell them they're retarded and end the conversation.
>join a random RATS
>everyone is on infamy, so I guess it should be fine
>all 3 corners in the second floor
>not even 1 bag of meth and the cops are inside the house
What gives? Is it some kind of new fabled tactic?
I had to carry an Overdrill yesterday at the beginning because they wanted to corner near the safe, good thing I always carry a grenade launcher.
Infamous CTV players are more common than you can think. Just because they've got the sunglasses doesn't mean they're aware of the rogue or muscle perk deck.
I often thought about using rogue but I am too afraid of going out without some health regen.
Sure there would be hostake take but that is still not viable everywhere and it takes many points
Hey, not everyone is rich and has the grinder perk
>mfw i see PP as less outrageous as this mod,
How 2 balance payday 2
REMOVE GHOST TREE
>Trying to explain low infamies how to find the right computer in the Big Bank
Holy shit, I spent at least ten minutes trying to explain them and they were still activating random computer. One of the guy even got a keycard at the very begining of the the heist and didn't use it.
Fuck these people.
>There's no way we can move a whole body out
>Sorry Jiro, we're gunna have to cremate him, its this or nothing
>Shit, the mortician must have the keycard to start the incinerator, grab it from him.
FUCKING GRINDER NORMIES, GET OUT OF MY LOBBY.
Actually the damage bonus is useless since you can already get the same amount via adding weapon mods, getting countless accuracy and stability bonuses on the way.
The concealment boost, on the other hand, is excellent if you're using a fugitive or stealth build.
played at least 8 games normally and even was kicked for laughing at a masterfug using a flamethrower. Everything is fine.
Here's a fun build that goes with Rogue I just made.
Rogue means great dodge and with hostage taker you got your health too.
what's wrong with the flamethrower in that case?
Not a bad idea, but any build without the basic enforcer skills can't be viable.
You should just go with the fak desu.
You can't trust pubs not to kill or convert your cops desu
ah right no transporter, well it is something done just for fun like that, I mean I could for instance take out akimbo and go like this
And meanwhile, as soon as I find another concealment boost I can finally try a Crit flamethrower build on this
I just wish I could find another 30 concealment secondary other than the Gruben Kurz
Would you hate me for this?
Wouldnt that help if say, there is a dozer and you shoot him with your bronco/deagle/babbeagle/watever 357?
>He tries to pub DW
Dont do that to yourself anon I care about you
Trigger Happy is a crutch. Die Hard Aced is a superior pick (especially over Underdog Aced).
What does Trigger Happy have anything to do with shooting a dozer with the pistol? Don't let the dozer shoot you while you shoot him. Not so hard.
Meant to get this to you sooner...
I pub'ed Overdrill yesterday, I had a friend with me but, I did have to carry it to a certain extent and 3/4 had Inspire, it was mostly about people not taking enough initiative, they wanted to remain in the guards room.
That is DW viable? Can I see your build?
You can save two points and get basic endurance if you really want it, but you never really need it.
Grinder isn't as strong in DW, but it still does the job and allows you to bring something actually useful for your crew instead of 14 fak, you also won't have to run around the map like a moron to pick up ammo drops. You can skip Nine Lives aced if you don't like it (it's actually secret OP, I swear) and get dominator instead.
I use flechettes on the mosco. First because they allow you to actually shoot thing past 10 meters but you can also pierce tans. When you proc overkill, you can oneshot DW tans with a bodyshot.
I can't try it out right now, so I'm hoping that someone has some experience with this. Would the micro uzi work well with lb? I usually use the macaroni and deagle/beagle/bronco, depending on the situation. Considering the ammo pool, fire rate, great handling, and crit chance it should result in a lot of dead cops in a short amount of time, right? It would also save me some points that would normally go into gunslinger.
>that black hideous dildo grip,
Sometimes, you really have to suffer to be good.
It would but some extra securities would be really nice like putting its damage to 40 so it kill tans units on two headshot for Overkill and buffing its concealment to the limits so you can maybe take another melee weapon or mods for your primary if you decide to replace your Moscovici.
Well I was about to remove nine lives but, what the hell I never tried it aced (because 30% seems shit and Inspire gives me already enough problems with a 75%) so I will.
I just wonder, why the mosconi with flechettes?
>being able to give to the Deagle Akimbos the ammo pool of the AK 7.62 with on top a 75% ammo pick up bonus,
Fugforcer builds truly were a mistake.
>27 concealment without any stat boost
>nearly 200 damage with flechettes + shotgun damage skill bonus
And that's without procing Overkill or crits. The reloading time is short enough to keep it proc'd indefinitely. With Overkill proc'd, a single headshot is enough to kill DW tazers and cloakers. Its only downside is the shit range once modded.
Still, the mosconi is by far the strongest weapon in the game right now. People bitching about make me laugh.
Just pony up a few cents like a good goy. ;)
You can go right to hell overkill
I bought keys to crates for TF2 years ago, never again
>everyone forgot about the 63 damage-18 accuracy-25 stability of the AK 7.62,
Having studied on the meta for months only to see everything disappear in a single update is really suffering.
Why is the 30% damage boost from silent killer considered such a noob trap?
Nothing about it seems terrible even if it just the 15% basic to close out a full build
The key into playing DW is staying in cover and not acting dumb, what you can handle on Ovk will fuck you up instantly on this difficulty.
You can also take the fugitive and ghost dodge skills to buff your defense, just in case. It can make a difference sometimes, especially when meeting a black dozer or a sniper.
The game is basically sitting in one big-ass nested zip file.
The updater has to unpack the whole thing, put in the updated files, then repack the whole thing.
If your hard drive has slow throughput and your CPU is shit, it will take fucking forever.
Because you're wasting 12 points into the Ghost tree (aka. at least 30 total) to make your shit suppressors viable instead of putting them into real useful skills in other trees.
Because people will believe the damage buff can make an extreme difference while it doesn't help to reach new breakpoints sometimes, making your heavy investment quite useless in some cases.
Haven't played since kikefest 2, is weapon balance still fucked with railgun pistols and BB-gun assault rifles? Are the snipers still seperated into 3 shitty tiers
I miss my rape tier WA2000
I'm not sure if I can go back if akimbo bernettis are steal dealing way more than a locomotive and I was a fucking pistolfag
Well obviously people need to do the math to see if it worth it, but with harder hitting primary like AR's and snipers (even some shotties)it seems like the best way to get the most, bang ( or lack there of) for your buck.
There are 30 points worth of useful things in the ghost tree. Seems hyperbolic rhetoric to write the entire tree completely off
Shotgun's damage were buffed so they're quite decent and fun with the enforcer's skills and most AR got a +8 accuracy. You'll still need to apply a shotload of weapon mods to make their accuracy/stability decent but things are okay now.
Also the stats boosts from the weapons skins are now free and drop like regular weapon mods so that offers new possibilities for modding.
>playing Nightclub without c4 or lockpicking skills,
Do you like to hurt yourselves ?
>tfw 1 mod away from perfection
>it doesn't even have a boost on it
>patterns on silencers,
This shouldn't that cool.
For the Mosconi, I've been running inspire, enforcer up to the 50% reload speed, and basic low blow/sneaky bastard. Five points in ghost, of course.
Works pretty well on overkill, but for moving into deathwish, do I need to give up one of the trees? Don't know if Mosconi without the Overkill skill hits deathwish breakpoints. Any recommendations on what to give up?
It's hard to mix all the shotgun's skills on a Masterfug build. You have two main choices: either you go full fugforcer and take Overkill basic so you don't have to worry about the damage you're dealing or you go full Masterforcer and take the ICTV with the Muscle Perk deck and Hostage taker aced in order to keep a good defense and Overkill basic.
In any case, you should spent at least 9 points in ghost: 4 for sprinter aced, 4 for Fast Hands aced and one for shinobi basic.
I got the Heart Breaker skin in a Completely OVERSHILL Pack safe and have been using it ever since. I find it to be pretty good, but that's because I have no one to do Death Wish with so I've resigned to a life of doing OVK heists with Silent Killer on.
You know looking at a payday general is like watching someone fuck a dead cow. You cant help but stop and watch the shit all while asking yourself why are they fucking that dead cow? It has been dead for years and is half decomposed already. There is not even any blood left to use as lube but there they are back sticking their dick in it all dry the whole while screaming about how shitty this dead cow that they are fucking is every day. Is this some sort of performance art thing where they literally torture themselves each day because they fucked the cow once and are forever now known as "Cow Fucker" or maybe they are fucking the cow over and over again because of some distant pleasant memory they maybe once had maybe? Or maybe they are fucking the cow because someone told them to not fuck the cow or they had only $5 and a decent whore is $20. Still it is all fascinating to watch for a completely depressing point of view.
You know looking at that one lonely autistic payday general shitposter is like watching someone fuck a dead cow. You cant help but stop and watch the shit all while asking yourself why are they fucking that dead cow? It has been dead for years and is half decomposed already. There is not even any blood left to use as lube but there they are back sticking their dick in it all dry the whole while screaming about how shitty this dead cow that they are fucking is every day. Is this some sort of performance art thing where they literally torture themselves each day because they fucked the cow once and are forever now known as "Cow Fucker" or maybe they are fucking the cow over and over again because of some distant pleasant memory they maybe once had maybe? Or maybe they are fucking the cow because someone told them to not fuck the cow or they had only $5 and a decent whore is $20. Still it is all fascinating to watch for a completely depressing point of view.
You know looking at that one lonely autistic payday general shitposter posting post poster posting post post posts posty post is like watching someone fuck a dead cow. You cant help but stop and watch the shit all while asking yourself why are they fucking that dead cow? It has been dead for years and is half decomposed already. There is not even any blood left to use as lube but there they are back sticking their dick in it all dry the whole while screaming about how shitty this dead cow that they are fucking is every day. Is this some sort of performance art thing where they literally torture themselves each day because they fucked the cow once and are forever now known as "Cow Fucker" or maybe they are fucking the cow over and over again because of some distant pleasant memory they maybe once had maybe? Or maybe they are fucking the cow because someone told them to not fuck the cow or they had only $5 and a decent whore is $20. Still it is all fascinating to watch for a completely depressing point of view.
>Think about going past infamy 10
>Realize theres no real benefit other than some masks which arent great
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Still very much a work in progress but feel free to mock away
why would you ace the profesional? also if you remove the professional you can get overkill and aced ammobags http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mhijGbcDa:eqkLHIjEFgcDa:tegbDa:gKMHIEfgCda:fEbDa:pg0N8::w19-29-20-36-14-38-2-35:s49-19-2-6-26:a3
I stopped playing for a few months and since I started again I havent bothered to get past X-100
this is usually what im running on DW for shotgun builds, its not perfect nor great but i find myself doing pretty decently with it because of muscle and without hostage taker
>Only uses shotguns
>B-but I can RUN AND RELOAD at the same time
Yeah, definitely worth the 12 points investment.
>This is the kind of people who shits on Nine Lives aced
It was more for the accuracy than the armor pen.
As stated in my original post. Without it aced I won't make 100 (granted I'm not there anyway because I still, unfortunately, haven't unlocked the long barrel)
What is a decent build/decent way to spend your dosh as a new player, a friend of mine started playing
nodlcand I haven't played for a while either.
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out.
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Will Take With Impunity (kosugi_3)
- Painting Yourself Into A Corner (pink_panther)
Reminder that tonight's the last chance to finish the Big Deal Weekly Side Job for an Infamous quality The Grin mask!
You can get it and the daily job at the same time!
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
DW is guaranteed 10% res HP.
Combat Medic Aced does give the +30% but it's +30% of the 10%.
10% * (1 + 30%) = 13%
>For reference, a player without any health boosts has 230 hitpoints, whereas a player with the Muscle perk deck has 414.
Extra 3% difference of 230 HP is 6.9 HP
Extra 3% difference of 414 HP is 12.42 HP
aka. Nothing. Again.
Tans do 10 damage a shot at max range. 30 damage at close range.
So your wasted 3 points don't even give your teammates enough HP to survive one extra bullet.
This is why Combat Medic Aced is the hallmark of a clueless shitter or an OVKbabby.
To this day, I still can't fucking stealth Framing Frame.
>Doing Framing Frame day 3 because I hate myself.
>Vault is is the 2nd floor hallway.
>There's a camera at the opposite end of the hallway watching it.
>Literally can not open it without it without the camera detecting it.
>Speced out of camera loop aced for aced ECM overdrive for day one so I didn't have to buy a keycard.
What does the thing at the top of the main menu say if you have all available DLC?
It just disappears and so the devs now they have your money.
>implying its a bad thing considering how it's more fun loud,
>tfw there will never be any heisters saying "what a flat" while looking at Clover.
>That Dallas head on the bernetti's grip skin.
I chuckled a little.
>implying there is anything wrong with Control Freak aced,
Enjoy those 5 minutes escape sequences after finishing Bank:Heist.
>Day one is only hard if you don't know what your doing.
>Day two is piss easy if you stealthed day one.
>Day 3, call the dentist, I'm going to pull out all of my teeth on this one.
The only time anyone who do stealth of framing frame is for the gold and that's it.
>that 5% of getting an ambush on day 2 DW even if you stealthed day one.
Truly the dark souls of the heisting games, nice one Goldfarb.
It's gone to shit since it hit big. They're too focused on being
professionalthat there's little to no fun there any more. And I don't get why they chose one of the most boring games to watch a speed run of as the finale. The tiny asian announcer was cute though.
>Ruski broski joins
>he lockpicks the other door in the camera room
>ask him why, he says (Prost) which should mean "easy"
>he says that he does not know english (what a surprise)
>he breaks the window for no reason
>of course a guy is alerted and then he leaves
>decide to help some saleshitters on a HM hard job,
>one of the pubbies stay below the gas station, getting down and begging to be saved,
>other pubbie accidentally blow the lab like a retard,
>first pubbies put a wrong barcodes despite having multiples warning about the right ones,
>we actually get a XXV cheater after kicking the two precedents shitters,
>mfw as we get another hacker to harass on day two, kicking him after telling him a speech about football,
Pick one and only one.
hm, maybe not, I'vejust been playing framing frame, had to reboot 3 times and every time it's bodhi, but I have a lot of ai disabled and I can't disable bodhi without crashing.
Daily reminder it's not an advertisement, goys
The Christmas, The First World and The Slaughter safe and drill will only be obtainable through the game up until Thursday, Jan 14th. Get heisting and looting, grab the last ones while you still can!
>10 mil for your offshore account from this job
>500k for you to spend :^)
such bullshit fuck this game
If you're stealthing it You don't need anything really. The guard patterns are easy enough to memorize so spycams are worthless
like usualand atleast one a you should be able to deploy a body bag case. I would kill for a "disable cameras on X floor" asset though. Or a "just make sure the cameras aren't aligned in a perfect formation so that they're all pointed to the vault bookcase.
> Started 2nd savefile with new progress just because (you can backup and replace the files on your computer in case you wonder)
> Join Birth Of Sky OVK as lvl 78
> Infamy 24,23 and 15 are the other guys
> They play like shit, don't do objectives, don't get many kills, go down a lot
> I carry the game
What intrigues me the most is that I have pdstats mod and it didn't even give me the "Too few heists for infamy...." warning, so it is likely they got the infamy levels legitly.
Yes you can.
Exp is shit though because OVK devs got buttblasted at how many people were ECM rushing it to grind infamies. It's why the exp-per-bag system was implemented, and why Shadow Raid got a shit exp-per-bag value.
>those xp and money rewards for Art Gallery,
Best Crimefest 2014 reward Overkill, totally worth the work to reach that point.
>buy the expert pilot on Go Bank,
>still got the street pick up,
>pilot misses two times,
>mfw as the host swear if he will fuck himself of the plane crash,
Surprised we didn't get a drill at the end for being this unlucky.
>Host Houxout DW
>A XXV 100, a low infamy and a non infamy join
>When we get to the parking lot, I have ~90 kills, XXV has ~110, low infamy has ~30 kills, 8 downs and is in custody, non infamy has 16 kills and is in custody
>We didn't even manage to finish day 1
Why couldn't you finish day 1? 200 kills between the two of you and the XXV-100 mean that you guys clearly held out for a long while and were capable of shooting more cops than usual for a DW Day 1. Couldn't you hold out in one of the empty rooms?
Buying the asset only reduce the risks to a very minimal level (1% and shit) but the threat is still here. It doesn't give you any real garanties although things usually are a lot smoother.
Long Guide says that plane can't be shot down if you bought the Ace Pilot asset though.
I think it's about how the cops could respond faster or slower depending on the host.
You forgot to mention that a lot of them are witch hunts.
>omg that cop at 36:17 responded a bit too slowly
>you are cheating or using a delay script
>nobody can solo loud DWs, you are clearly cheating
>you can't do that with that perk deck / skill / weapon, you have to be cheating
>what a lucker, you just got lucky
>join a game of rats DW
>2 non-infamy players and
>ask to wear heavy gear
>tell them about Grinder
>I say it's a perk deck
>I ask them what perk deck they have
>"ghost and tech"
Love them sale babbies
In PA, unlike DC and most of the country, you can't buy booze outside of special state government sanctioned special zones.
So no buying beer at the Wal-Mart or the 7-11 across the street like a normal person.
I have the FOV slider mod but I can't remember where it is exactly
Apologies for the tripcode but yeh people won't believe me otherwise! Ashley here and i'm writing a document up about some old bugs that need some attention.
Things such as snipers being able to shoot before they get into position. Spotter aced working in loud at all and the notification of new item not disappearing.
If you have anything that is a bug and has been around for a while, let me know and i'll pass it on. I want to see if we can get Almir to focus on fixing some of the older issues such as bugs and the skill trees being extremely old and many skills are useless. That sort of thing.
>playing payday at 10-9 FPS
>only host a few times
>mfw running on the street on HM DW with armor and lmg
So you are telling me i wasn't a good player and i got an advantage over everyone else on this game? i tough DW was fucking easy as fuck but at least i can truly see.
Bring back old bulletproof basic, leave the snipers being able to shoot before they get on position.
add LMG skills on enforcer.
Move saw to tech skills, buff turrets.
FUCKING UNBAN ME FROM THE STEAM FORUMS.
If the cops take a couple seconds after you start loudly shooting at them to notice you and stop standing around (e.g. crouch, barrel roll, etc.) then it could be delay introduced by toaster. Or they just didn't notice you because they were looking somewhere else.
It's really obvious (that your computer's a toaster) if you join other people's games and for some reason, you feel like it's harder than usual and/or you seem to be getting shot at more often than usual. And the same goes for the other way around. You join another person's game and it feels easy as fuck but it doesn't seem like they're using PP.
>doing hoxton revenge death wish on my own
>have 8 bags of evidence and timelock on door in a minute, 3 pagers out
>friends ask if they could join
>tell them okay if they just sit on the bags and help me move them
>of course they start sneaking around
>both get seen by a guard respectively the moment they set foot out of the basement
Bug: Dual swords artifact on 1st floor are still unlootable.
>caring about 1 bag of loot worth around $200k-$300k
It's not about its value as a loot bag but more about consistency.
If you advertise it as lootable, then make it fucking lootable. Or don't advertise it as lootable. Not that hard.
>haven't played for like a year
>come back, doing alright but not great
>make a single, tiny mistake that inconveniences the host for 5 seconds
>all three guys start raging on the mic for like 30 seconds straight
>stay silent until they finish..
holy fuck the rage those two words can cause a bunch of sperging, taking a video game too seriously 20-somethings is hilarious. I got kicked midway through being called a "fucking faggot cunt"
I believe that is intentional, as C4 is easier to bring, the saw less so. With that said, saw isn't much of an issue anymore due to secondaries being better than primaries now.
Alright thank you, i'll pass it on. I had them check a few of those in the past, seems one slipped by.
What do you mean old bulletproof basic? As far as i'm aware bulletproof has always been 50% more armor.
Sorry i can't release information about future updates. All i can do is talk to staff and bring things up for what i believe is best for them to focus on.
This year i'm going to be seeing if i can get them to do a skill rebalance and fix a few older bugs. I'd personally suggest they do it one skill tree at a time so we don't have that gigantic shock like they did with the weapon rebalance. Bit by bit, one tree at a time with community feedback, hopefully but yeh we'll see.
I always remember it being 50% personally. I'd say any more would make techforcer OP but i just played grinder and yeh...to be honest the way armor regeneration works needs changing for armor to ever match dodge or grinder now.
Well some skills are a bit of joke and others don't even work!
CQC aced. 8 skill points to sight a little faster....
Spotter aced doesn't even work in loud missions.
Silent drilling makes little sense in the tech tree.
Sentries are generally broken and a waste.
Ect the list goes on. A lot of them are out dated with how the game has changed over the years.
As far as i'm aware, spotter aced doesn't actually work during loud though. It says that but no, it does not work.
Stockholme works but it's a pretty bad skill, ESPECIALLY aced.
but i always end up being the last one going on ccustody, either that or im not running around like a retard (only on White Christmas) i also use an LMG and they are useless on long range.
>As far as i'm aware bulletproof has always been 50% more armor.
Ashley confirmed for shitter, on the earlier payday game the bulletproof used to decrease damage instead of giving extra armor, fix it.
Assault rifles. Secondaries in PD2 effectively ask as primaries because of how good the loco/pistols have been since launch. So the primary slot is better suited towards special weapons like the GL-40, Flamethrower, or a shotgun if you don't mind the potential of shields forming a phalanx around a taser and fucking you over LIKE THEY DID IN THE SEWERS RIGHT AS I WAS ABOUT TO GET BLACK TIE EVENT THE FUCKING SHIT HEAD CUNTS I WILL KILL EVERYTHING THEY LOVE
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Caribbean Pirate (caribbean_pirate)
- Doctor Fantastic (doctor_fantastic)
This week's new Weekly Side Job is:
- Sewer Rats (charliesierra_1)
Do it and get an Infamous quality The Grin mask!
What luck, it seems like if you missed your chance at getting it last week, you can get it now this week! That's so like OVERKILL to look out for heisters' needs.
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
>Do both daily sides
>Don't get the long barrel for my Heavy Eagle to make it perfect.
I guess I'll try again tomorrow...
Farm Jew Stores.
You should really be at the point where you have 2 of every mod because of the sheer number of heists you played but if you're not, just pad them with Jew Stores.
>Dodgefag grinder is the objectively best way to play this game
Let me know when this garbage changes. I'll thinking about coming back.
I know that Ashley person isn't actually ever in this thread. If they were they'd know how much their community doesn't like this shit and fucking fix it.
I'm only infamy 3.
And I have terrible luck. I usually end up getting masks or designs only