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>What is Grim Dawn
Grim Dawn is an ARPG made by a few left over developers from Iron Lore Entertainment who also made Titan Quest along with a few other devs including one D1/D2 designer. Currently you can't really pirate it because it breaks NPCS and quests (custom DRM I'm guessing) but there is a DRM free version planned for launch.

>What are some features
Dual Class System
Faction-Based Questing
Refined Loot Drops
300+ Hero Monsters
Destructible Environments
Dynamic Weather
Recipe-Based Crafting
Modding Tools (Future)
DRM Free Version (At launch in February 2016)
Survival Mode (think endless dungeon) (for all backers)
More here http://www.grimdawn.com/guide/about/featurelist.php

>FAQ
http://www.grimdawn.com/guide/about/faq.php

>Game Guide
http://www.grimdawn.com/game.php

>Wiki
http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Grim_Dawn_Wiki

>Advanced mechanics
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23720

>Build Planner
http://grimcalc.com/
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23967

>Item Database
http://gracefuldusk.appspot.com/items

>Store Page
http://store.steampowered.com/app/219990/

>Why is this game taking so long to make?
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?p=257065#post257065

>Trade
Post in the thread, in the forums or in the ledit.

>Story summery by aniki:
https://imgur.com/SJIlwBX


>Previous quest:
>>127787574
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>>127991126
>doesn't post build
>doesn't post skill build
>doesn't post resists
GUISE WAT I DO RON
gee I don't even know where to begin
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kILL THE NON BELIEVER
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>>127990865
Fighting Spirit procs all the time, try checking your hp bar, you'll see the buff. The other two you need to check the animation.
Markovian's is a slow downward slash/strike, the other one is a horizontal sweep.
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>>127991382
>Markovian's is a slow downward slash/strike, the other one is a horizontal sweep

Even on dual wield pistols?
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nothin' personnel
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>>127991627
>somehow read commando as blademaster

I dunno, they might be only to melee.
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is there any way to tell how damage reduction works on mobs?
for instance, it says x% reduced enemy damage but we know that they can use items with +y% to damage and shit, therefore making it 100+y-x% total
unless I am mistaken and crate just made it a multiplier
IF ONLY THERE WAS A RESOURCE IN GAME TO TELL US HOW THINGS WORK HOLY SHIT

>>127991690
nameless soldier devotion or whatever it's called on the lower right is better

>>127991779
it works with all weapons
zolhan's AoE only works on melee, kinda like cadence
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Is there a way to change my attributes and class?
I remember TQ having something like this, but I guess it still takes time for GD mods?
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>>127991690

Does nightblade even have any +% pet abilities?
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>>127992384
It says right there it scales with player damage bonuses.
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>>127992693

Ohhh

There are a lot of cool abilities from items some are even better than standard abilities, kinda wish there was a database ingame so you can build your character accordingly to item abilities
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>>127991690
>mfw the Nemesis summon is exactly the same pet as the Shaman manticore

Fucking Crate get your shit together. I can't stand how fucking lazy they are with these pet summons.
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>>127992931

Do you have a screenshot?
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Do I miss something here? It says "inspire your allies", yet, the movement speed bonus applies to me aswell, BUT the 45% total damage does not or not entirely, I get like 7 phys damage more ... or do I misinterpret total damage?
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>>127992931
what the fuck do you expect? there are like SIX dogs and several pets that are just mob recolors
any time you tell people about that on reddit/GD forums they go apeshit defensive about it
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>>127992976
No, it was a video I saw my friend post. I thought it was a Nightblade + Shaman because the Nemesis summon even had the same icon as the Shaman Conjure Primal Spirit did, but the character was a Blademaster iirc. I can try digging up the video if I can find it.
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>>127992931
Yeah, lots of shit is just lazy.

I really hope that people will actually do shit that's on the same level as Soulvizier when the modding tools get released.
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>>127993093
>>127993264

Not to mention their component system is just as garbage as the TQ one, takes ages to go through the components and find the right ones for specific armor parts.
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>>127993093
GD forums are full of cucks who get their panties in a twist if you so much as even begin to suggest that everything Crate shits out isn't necessarily golden. That place disgusts me.
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Is there anything actually thiefy a character can do or are you basically just a ninja (like most "thieves" in ARPGs)?
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>>127992850
this fucking guy

reminder that 90% of /gdg/ are just as retarded if not more
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>>127993424

You're not going to find stealth in hack n slash
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>>127993424
Nope, it's Ninja all the way. Nightblade isn't supposed to be a thief, the flavor lore for it is that they are assassins/agents for the old Empire.
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>>127993479
One thread later and you're still butthurt cuz I BTFO you the fuck out
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>>127993079

Check your damage tab, see if % increases when you put points in the ability
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>>127993636

>Blown the fuck out you the fuck out
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>>127993636
go on a pvp server and screencap someone who has full resists under the SF debuff, newfriend
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>>127993816
>30% Reduced target's Resistance For 1 Second
>For One Second

The debuff works essentially only for the damage caused by the spell itself you congoloid.
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>>127994054
see
>>127993816

I bet you think it applies chaos damage once
ROFL
kill la kill urself my man
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>>127994224
>For One Second
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>>127994320
>for one second
>8 times
>which results in 9 seconds of debuff total
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>>127994482
>1
>second
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>>127994718
>still no screenshot
is this what kids think bait is?
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>>127994482
>>127994845
M8 you're wrong. The eight second duration is for the lingering chaos damage over time, it applies the one second debuff on cast to the enemy.
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>>127994894
>>127994845
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>>127994894
>>127995023
I'm a different anon, but you're still wrong.
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>>127993646
Yeah, but Im not sure I understand the math correctly here ...
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>>127995152
why can't you post proof?
you both are fucking retarded
>it's a 8 second debuff
>actually 1 second
>why?
>animegrill.jpg
I haven't seen such low effort argument in a long time
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>>127995286
dude read the fucking description of the ability.

>cast your flames on enemy
>eight second duration
>chaos damage xxx-xxx
>reduces enemies resistances for one second
If anyone is retarded, it's you for not being able to read.

It clearly states that reduces enemies Resistance for a single second, on top of the eight second duration of the chaos damage.

THE DEBUFF IS SEPARATE FROM THE EIGHT SECOND DURATION.

STOP
BEING
FUCKING
DUMB
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>>127993490
Well you can do things like how FFX-2 did thieves, with stealing items from enemies that they won't normally drop as well as stealing abstract things such as their mind (makes them berserk) or their time (slows or stops them) for example.
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>>127995626
here's your reply
your theorycrafting doesn't apply to anything though because I've been using SF for months and know how it works
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>>127995226
How can you not understand, is this bait?
Look at your picture, every single modifier has +45% when you activate your skill, that's total damage.
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>>127995725
If you knew how it'd work then you wouldn't be here making an ass out of yourself
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>Get to level 10
>Dual class

I'm running through at nightblade for my first run. I want to go with Soldier or Demolitionist for my 2nd class, is there any reason why I shouldn't choose one or the other (or both and go with something else?)

If there's any guides that'll help me that would be great.
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>>127995626
Not the same guy but i'd agree with you unless the skill would be on the floor, I see that it has a radius so if the skill is not a debuff but is instead a real skill on the floor that enemies need to walk away from then the 8 seconds duration is separate from the rest and every other line is what happens when a monster stays on the skill for a tick.
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>>127996701
Nightblade is incredibly strong as a solo class, I waited to like level 30 before I finally choose something. You can keep playing and make your choice when you really know what playstyle you want to aim for.
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>>127996829
Sounds like a good plan to me.

Thanks anon.
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>>127996178
Because the numbers are fucked, thats why.
I activate it to get another 45% to 90%, but only get 8 phys min damage more.
How do the first 45% work on the 25 min damage?
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>>127996619
>still no proof
why are you trying so hard?
if I was wrong you'd have proven me so long ago
instead you keep going for ad hom which makes you look like an attention whore clown
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Anyone got searing light maxed out on demo? Is it worth it on higher difficulties?

And in Markovian's Advantage and other skills that give bonus damage. Is that a general increase or do you only get that bonus damage from when the passive procs and only for that shot?
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I want to play a Battlemage that uses both magic and melee but so many of the Arcanist skills are lackluster. Callidor's seems to be doing garbo damage
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>>127996928
You forgot about your bonus physical damage from cunning, which is not a modifier but does affect your base 25.
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>>127997648
>garbo
Get a load of this cunt.
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>>127996937
Unfortunately (for you) the burden of proof lies on the person making the claim, i.e you.
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>>127997648
Cadence can do Elemental damage with the Transmuter
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>>127998310
you're the one making the claim that it doesn't work like I say it does
if you're not going to back that up with any screenshots then we might as well both be wrong
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>>127997926
garbo is a fun word to use 2bh cos
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>>127998605
No, it's you. You came here and said that it does this thing. Everyone said that you are wrong but then you just go "oh but you need to prove that it doesn't do thing". So, yeah, the burden of proof is on you. You said you're an expert on it anyway so it shouldn't be a big deal for a hot shot like you.
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>>127998839
that's not how it works, m8
even if we consider that I am wrong for a moment you are still not right
you can put your anecdotal evidence to >>>/reddit/atheism
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>>127999283
You have that the wrong way around, it would be religious people that are ignoring burden of proof, not atheists.
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>Autism
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>>128000471
only fedora tippers use insults when asked to explain why do they think otherwise
you belong right there
OP could provide evidence the moment I asked him to
the fact that he didn't only shows that he got the same result I did and thus left in shame
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hot slith action @ twitch tv/miraqlnip
come watch this shitter die to grey spawns at normal difficulty
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Okay there's something that's been bothering me for a while now, im level 42 and up to now i've been looting every yellow to sell it but honestly im tired of doing it, what do you guys do?
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>Throwing meteors that do half my health and freezing projectiles
Fuck my ass if I ever encounter multiple heroes of this mob type
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Just ask Zantai on the forums for fuck's sake.
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>>128003474
he won't stop shitposting even if it turns out to reduce resists for the whole duration
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>>128003384
cheat engine
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>>128003384
Just leave them. The only yellow stuff I continue to pick up are rings and amulets.
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>>128001208
why none of bigger twitch boys stream this game??
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>>128004362
because it is early access and is only fun in MP
they have no friends hence the unpopularity
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>>128003384
What exactly is the problem? Just click them and move on.

Although if you're running the BoC or the skeleton crypt dungeons where you can't teleport out you can just pick every green/blue/leg and leave the yellows on the ground since you'll run out of space.
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>>128003384
Just filter them.
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Currently level 12 with the following build thus far:
http://grimcalc.com/build/Kz3OH2

Thinking of going Occultist/Nightblade and focusing on mainly poison and bleed damage.

I'm sort of considering a melee focused build where I curse/ bleed everything, set down a sigil and some other shit and brute force it with the help of DoTs and debuffs.

I also have some nice gear that caters to blood and poison damage.

On the other hand, DoT damage is fucking worthless against bosses and monsters that can heal themselves so until I can afford Doom Bolt or something I may just be fucked and need to completely respec.
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>>128008521
>DoT damage is worthless
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>>128008521
>On the other hand, DoT damage is fucking worthless against bosses and monsters that can heal themselves
It's not. It's called max bloody pox tree.
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>>128008521
>DoT damage is fucking worthless against bosses

You're so wrong m8. If anything that's who they're best against since normal enemies tend to die from the Acid/Vitality damage before the Poison gets to even do anything.
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>>128009339
Seems that way in my current position when it comes to bosses. Then again the debuff and DoT I have aren't exactly super high level right now.
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>>128010476
>>128010525
I'm clearly doing something wrong then since anything that can heal itself is currently a nightmare to deal with.
I'll revisit the tree and come back with another more complete build based on what I'm thinking on.
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Is anyone here playing on ultimate with a poison build? How is it?
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>>128010752
Dude listen, take my advice (I literally only play Occultist), one point into curse of frailty, and max the first ability in bloody pox. After that, level until you can get the trait that also HAPPENS to buff enemies. After that, lrn2kite and let ebola plague do the work. I recommend ranged with this kind of build, helps you kite.
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What build(s) offer the fastest progression? I suppose this would mean which builds are the strongest but in terms of killing mobs the quickest and progressing through maps and that sort of stuff. I full-clear every area on every character; can't stop.
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>>128011052
Wind devil/totem druid fucks shit up pretty quickly, can get some good gear pretty early from rep.
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>>128011397
Ah yeah are you the Druid anon? I'm staying away from additional lightning-based builds for now as my main does that and my Shaman alt has some lightning shit too.

Curious question though: Do you need the rep to actually WEAR the gear? For example: buying gear on my 'main' then giving it to an alt.
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>>128011567
They are soulbound
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>>128011642
Gotcha. I could have probably checked myself but I don't currently have the game open. Ah well. Gear starts around 35 anyhow so it would be a while before I ever got that far.
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>>128010956
I've actually been doing the Frailty Pox kiting thing since I started playing a day or so ago.
Haven't found any good ranged weapons yet though.
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>>127992931
>it takes manticore eyes to make it.

Well the final update is going to be polish anyways who knows whats gonna happen with all that.
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Are tomes even worth it for Occultist? I mean is it worth doing Sword and Tome versus Musket/Shotgun/Rifle, etc.
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What are some of your weirdest/ most experimental builds?
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>>128011052
Any more ideas?
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>>128013509
I hope it's just a placeholder.
Dread skulls too are fucking impossible to get.
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>>128017441
I know that suffering you on hardcore? I can give you one.
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>>128017441

You can buy them sometimes from the hidden merchant in Blood Grove. He has like a 50% chance of stocking 1 rare component piece. That is where I got my Dread Skull.
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>>128017671
sorry I'm not enough of a sadic to play hardcore, but thanks anyway. I needed three pieces for the savage relic, it fucking took me from respected to revered with the rovers and nemesis to the undead.

>>128017848
>the hidden merchant in Blood Grove
HOL UP
I missed that, where is it?
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>have more fun farming Veteran BoC than trying to progress through Elite with awful resists
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Aether Ray sucks up my energy too fucking quick. It kills enemies so fast but a large mob will completely drain my bar. I don't wanna keep using potions after every fucken fight.
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>>128019661
that is the cost of power
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>trying to farm good gear in BoC
>get to level 65 or so
Normal and veteran should be level capped at 60
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>>128004362
>why don't they ditch their shitty mobas and MMOs with tons of viewers for a game literally no one has heard about
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>>128020284
>level 65
>on veteran

What the fuck?
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>>128020284
Why?
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>>128018306

From the Grove riftgate, head west across the bridge then hug the left side and you'll shortly be able to go into the river bank and go under the bridge to the vendor.
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How does this build look?
http://grimcalc.com/build/0X7Qth
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These pants are fucking amazing
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>>128021175

>Bloody pox

m8.
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>>128020874
Thanks anon.
>mfw this nigger sells troll bonecrushers
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>>128011052
>>128016165

A pet Conjurer build has the fastest clear time, and it's not really gear dependent. Just use every pet damage/attack speed/ offensive ability item you find.
It is a less active then other builds though, you're more of a support character, debuffing the occasional enemy. Build is amazing for farming.

If you want a more "active" builds, a Dreeg's Evil Eye Warlock or dual wielding handgun Sorcerer will reach some insane damage levels. But they are both kind of gear dependent.
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>>128019661
Let's be honest, the skill is shit :
- There is no way to enlarge the beam
- It costs a hell lot of mana
- Two damage types 50/50 mean harder to scale
- You can't even use it as a boss killer since you will be interrupted and then need to wait 3 fucking seconds to be able to cast it again
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>>128021442
>procs wendigo
full heal, coming right up
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>>128021567
And spectral swords.
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>>128021175
>>128021442
>>128021778
>lol thanx 4 th pox bae
>imma heal now ;D
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>>128021589
Figured Summoner builds would be up there. I'll have to get around to making a new one of those sometime soon.
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>>128021743
>There is no way to enlarge the beam
This. this is just shameful, think about the amazing customization you can do on the same skill in PoE (Incinerate, which is to be honest mechanically 10 times better and more smartly designed that this green turd).
Also, cast speed doesn't affect the dmg/s of the ray it seems? come on.
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>>128022232
>Also, cast speed doesn't affect the dmg/s of the ray it seems?
It does
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>>128022232
>more smartly
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>two Spined Cove runs
>no Ectoplasm
Okay.
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Just did the Elite Logo fight on my commando. I was pretty much invincible thanks to all my maxed out resistances but the fight took fucking forever. The loot was complete poop though just like it was in Veteran.
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>>128022319
no it doesn't
only cooldown reduction does now that it got reworked
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viper constellation is fucking GOAT

passive 25% reduction to target's elemental resistances.
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twitch tv/miraqlnip
now with 2hu music
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>want to make a vitality/bleeding conjurer
>all the good shit requires lots of points in each mastery
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>>128024367
Just spec for something different in the low levels and respec later
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>>128024576
>respeccing
might as well delete your character because it's desecrated forever
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>>128024576
I was thinking of going full briarthorn and hellound up until Krieg
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>>128021743
>>128019749
What should I use in place of it? My build's basically going to be built around it.
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>>128024879
I bet you still have devotion points in the crossroads
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So I've put devotion points into Vulture incorrectly assuming I'm gonna get massive HP leech with my gunslinger Commando.

What should I invest those points into instead?
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is there a 2H ranged build that doesn't blow? double pistols is 2 edgy for me
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>>128029731
google harbinger set
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>43% damage absorption
>99% block chance
>88% shield recovery rate
>2200 block damage
>111% armor absorption
>88/88/77/63/88/83/81/70/80/70 resists
>20% phys resist
>25% deflect

And I still feel the pain in HC Ult that I get scared to engaged more than 1-2 heroes at once in ACT ONE.

For people getting near the end of Elite, be warned that Ult is a whole different league. I could literally face tank Log and BoC mobs forever without dipping below 99% health but even 1 hero here makes big chunks of my health disappear at times.
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>throw canister bomb
>game explodes
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>>128030026
this is why you max dodge and resists, not armor
fucking bladebabbies
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>hardcore

for what purpose
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>>128030550

Not even a nightblade. Why the fuck would a nightblade use a shield?
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>>128031030
bragging rights
because finishing ultimate without a single death isn't the same :^)

>>128031127
>not knowing about shieldblades
you have much to learn, young grasshoppa
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>>128031272
>tfw died on veteran at final boss

REEEEEEEEEE
R
E
E
E

Also, whats the best relic for a summoner, I cant choose
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>>128031630
domination
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Commando or Sorcerer for Firestrike?
Or does the build suck for ultimate anyway?
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>start a new character
>i have to hunt down every devotion shrine in all the shitty little caves and tunnels across the map
absolute worst part of every new char
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>>128031759
What's that?
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>>128032208
A relic.
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>>128031630
>>128031759

I'm not sure about Domination. It's uptime is horseshit but Ancestor is always good and easier to make. Total speed is amazing for pets especially when you put Devotion procs on them.
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>>128032374
>around 35% uptime with CD items
>15% OA permanently
ancestor pales in comparison
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When does the game pick up? After you beat the game on vet? It's been fun but I have rather weak gear, I wanna get all that empowered shit desu familia
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where to farm Bindings of Bysmiel
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>>128032665
empowered shit and legendaries all start dropping at around 50+
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>>128032665
stay on normal and grind steps of torment til 85
at least that's what I did
also remember to back your HC characters up
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Where's best to farm blood of chthon? I'm 49 so the fucks in depraved sanctuary are blue and won't drop what i need.

Anywhere chthonic?
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>>128032967
>also remember to back your HC characters up

Pathetic. Don't forget to alt f4 when you're dying as well.
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>>128032967
ebin
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>>128032967
nice meme :)
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>>128033038
I always get a lot in the end of act 3
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Help me /gdg/
I'm trying to explain a friend the appeal of playing in HC but I can't find the words.
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>>128033045
>>128033056
>>128033141
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>>128034236
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Are any of hellhounds abilities worth? I can't decide
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>>128034670
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>>128034672
breath wipes trash all the way until ultimate
then the burn kicks in
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Is there a save editor for the steam version?
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what are the +aspd/total spd components? i can't find any but i'm sure ive found one before
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>>128030526

couldn't handle the HEAT
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New to the game, does markovian advantage proc on fire strike?
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>>128036982

Will proc on any default attack replacers
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>>128036982
yes, because it states "when used as your default attack"
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>>128036086
pls respond guys
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>>128032180
NO. The worst part is that you have to grind rep for Rhowari to get that one fucking quest to repair Mogdrogens shrine. Running after all the other shrines isn't as bad as getting this one (3 across all difficulties) shrine.
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>>128038148
i hated that part. i don't understand the rep grind in general. at 55 i'm like 10% of the way to unlocking nemeses for every single faction. i have no idea how people get so much rep.
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>>128038518
You get like doubel the amount of rep from bosses in elite and even more in ultimate.
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>>128023659
>not manticore
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>>128030026
do you bore the mobs to death or what?
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>>128039117

I have enough procs to AoE things down. I don't mind taking longer to kill things when I never have to retreat or kite or be scared a random crit will obliterate me and ruin my HC run.
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>>128039327
warders and spellbreakers are playing the game on easy mode
it's not hardcore when you have 3 times more EHP than others
if you're going to play melee, build lifesteal and CC reduction instead of wearing a barrel
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>c++ error when entering last part of BoC
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What's the build closest to D2 zealot (literally melee shit with 1 button)

bonus points for proccing a whole lot of aoe shit on hits
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>>128039696
do you get kicked out of the dungeon and lose your key if your game closes for any reason?

that seems like a pretty dumb thing for the devs to do in a game where shit heads can just use trainers and back up their chars anyways
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>>128040260
>do you get kicked out of the dungeon and lose your key if your game closes for any reason?

Yes.
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>>128039589

I'm neither a warder or spellbreaker. I'm sorry your characters are dying. I do have some lifesteal with my Crimson Spike and reasonable CC resist. In fact, there isn't really anything that my character doesn't have a respectable amount of. I've seen those lifesteal builds you speak of and when the going gets tough, they have to resort to bottlenecking mobs in some choke point so they don't get analbasted because even if you do life steal all your life back in a cleave or what not, you're still susceptible to going from 100 to 0 when multiple enemies punch you in the dick.
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>>128038148
>>128038518
Luckily mods will fix it. It's the one mod I'm looking forward the most to see, the one that will make the Mogdrogen shrine quest available even without rep shit. I like the rep stuff for gear, but gating important quests behind it is really fucked up on Crates end.
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>had 2 1 h level 50 epic fire guns
>do shrine in the black sepulcher
>put devotion point in
>swamped my mobs
>GAME HAS CHANGED BOTH GUNS TO A SINGLE FUCKING BRIMSTONE REPEATER

WHAT THE FUCK GUYS

WHAT THE FUCK

It even has the fucking devil touched ammo slotted in it. I can't find my other two weapons anywhere.

FUCK.
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HC sorcerer here, I reached Darkvale Gate and some bosses, mostly Bolvar the blood drinker and Zaria the carver were huge threats to my hp so I'm gonna start farming some stuff here and there.
Where are the best farm spots?
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>>128041678
you switched the weapons, retard
switch them back with a button in the inventory window
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How good is this compared to games like the Adventures of Van Helsing? It looks more or less identical to me but then again so do most all Diablo clones.
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>>128042775
Both combat and build customization is a whole lot better in GD than van helsing.
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>>128042267
Jesus christ i'm a fucking retard.

Thanks.
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>>128042196
Bolivr and Zaria are both complete bullshit fights that are in many ways harder than the Act 3 boss, especially for pistol builds.

You're probably fine to keep pressing forward. Shouldn't have any issues until the last boss, desu.
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>>128041678
>>128043101
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>>128040205
Outside of DW pistol builds soldier is probably the best proccer in the game, and is certainly the best for melee.

Put points in cadence, then get points in zolhans, markovians and fighting spirit. That's 3 proc abilities right there, not including shit that procs on hit or procs when you block.

procs procs proccy procs
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>>128044737
occultist gets more benefits from devotion though
>all these chaos/vit constellations
>proc on death bound to doom bolt
>basically a proc on demand
>proc on attack bound to pox
>you get a proc and you get a proc
don't even get me started on sigil
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http://grimcalc.com/build/gKUpS8

Any tips for the rest of this build? I plan on playing with a couple friends who are generally shit at these games so I'll have to be the riftslut for them if when they die.

I'm thinking extra points in arcane will might be good, or more points into Mog's pact for better energy regen
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>>128045127
For melee tho, but you're right. I just never play occultist.
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anybody need 9 maivens hoods or 4 farmstead liberators?
it sure would be neat if there were more than 2 blues in my item pool
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>>128046142
I have two full stash tabs of level 10-40 epics with no duplicates

It's going to be horrible having to make space
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How do you think it will play out?
>85
>as if
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Anybody know of a good Witch Hunter build?
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>>128046680
forgot link http://grimcalc.com/build/eOyKro
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>>128046736
max curse and veil, daggers and witchfire
get around 60% energy absorption, never die because dagger lifesteal is absurd
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Anyone know when b30 will roughly be out?
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>>128047041
who cares, heres the patch notes

meme bugfix number 596966960605969485938534333

there
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Is there something better than deviltouched ammo for a commando firestrike pistols?
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>>128047041
~1 month
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I'll miss you faggots from January 15th onwards
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>>128046987
Thanks mate, I'll check it out
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>>128047494
Drag queens dog, ma?
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>>128047317
A friend of mine doesn't want to play until the game is officially released.

>>128047357
thanks
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where the fuck do i find a Black Grimoire of Og'Napesh

I've been farming for 5903485094358094358 years
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>>128047494
I'll probably play both desu
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>>128047736
It's released, your friend is dumb


If it makes you feel better, my friend said the same thing and I said he's a retard ;~)
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>>128047956
I have one.
not empowered though
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>>128048258
I want the lessor one, I'm lvl 41. I kinda wanna find it myself though, I'm that autistic, where'd you find yours?
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>>128048112
I know but I don't want to be rude and don't think I can convince him.
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>>128048405
No clue, random drop around act 3 ... ?
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>>128048678

convince me ;)
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act 3 > act 2 > act 1 > act 4

prove me wrong
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>>128047706
Yes
It's been so long
I wanna love fournival again
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So if im a lightning shaman should i choose Kymon's Chosen?
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>>128049090
>act 2 above anything
>You can't even tell when it actually ends
>Cronley's lair is laughable
wew
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4 > 3 > 2 > 1
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>>128049337
>not liking the undead parts

meme
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I want to make a summoner, but would love to Rp it as a knight with divine help. Is Soldier/Shaman Or soldier Occultist viable?

Not pure summoner but would most likely use one or two summons at a time and melee.
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>>128050227
soldier occulist
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>>128050227
Anything hybrid isn't really viable
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3 > 1 > 4 > 2
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>>128051270

3 was the best act imo
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>>128050227
It would take you eons to get proper equipment with bot resistances, damage modifiers and pet bonuses, although summoner's call gives well over 100% damage bonus to pets...
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>>128051270
actually it's 4 > 3 > 2 > 1
>american education
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Is it just me or are the miniscule debuffs in DA and OA that some spells and skills do, like -45 DA with maxed out Vulnerability, incredibly useless? What is -45 DA going to serve? Maybe in Act 1 if you max it out you might see a difference, but beyond that it's nothing. In Elite and Ultimate it'll probably give you something like a 0.03% better chance to hit. This shit is useless. It should be a percentage that they reduce, not a flat number, and certainly not such a low flat number at that.
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>>128049437
>two areas that look exactly the same and have exactly the same mobs

Crate struck gold when they roped in all the cucks who don't mind their lazy copy and pasting.
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>>128052362
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>>128051965

I don't think the enemy has your stats
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>>128053008
I'm pretty sure they operate by the same rules.
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>tfw purging xenos

ah this is much better than random gang bangers
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>>128047494
>>128047706


It already leaked, fampais
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>>128045274
Anyone? I'm shit at building characters
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>>128054835
Meh, already bought it. Witcher 3, galciv 3, Mad Max, and multiplayer shit will keep me busy enough for another week anyone
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>>128049126
Yes they are mainly more lighting dmg than fire, sadly.
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>>128047329
No i dont think so.
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>>128059216

>I plant on playing with 2 friends

Anything will do.
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>>128059216
It's weird as hell senpai. What do you want to focus on? Arcanist/Shaman sounds like a good combination for lightning damage.
I play a warder myself, so I can't really tell you anything about arcanist tree, but my shaman one looks like this. Also Mogdroden's is worthless by itself, you only take it for the 10% extra health on the heart of the wild. Just level spirit focus in your arcanist tree and chug a spirit potion if you run out of mana.
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>>128046142
Empowered Liberators?
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>>128046736
Go full on acid/poision retalliation build with bloddy pox and curse.

Take blade arc and cruse for max bleed dmg. Get Sigil of Consumption for life steal and a little bit of vita dmg.
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Oh hey sweet an exalted chest

no
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>>128060420
Well it's mainly supposed to be a tanky 2h build. Sphere and primal bond give roughly 40% damage absorption. Savagery line for damage, primal strike line for aoe trash clear, everything else is mainly for survibility. I don't recall anything in soldier that gives percentage based damage absorb without requiring a shield.
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>>128061884
Primal strike isn't worth it for AOE, just stick a tsunami or a tempest onto your savagery and you'll be fine. Also wind devils and storm totems are pretty great, since they scale with your damage. Defence is nice, but I really don't see how you'll be able to kill tanky enemies. Maybe that won't matter since you'll play with friends.
Soldier tree is mainly for the +15% physique and +25% hp and increases to offensive and defensive ability. On higher difficulties it becomes a problem to even hit an enemy, since going for tankiness leaves your offensive ability in the dumpster.
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>want to use sword and tome for occultist
>occultist is a squishy class
>pistols are useless wihtout dual wielding and heavy proc builds
>there is no hand-held crossbows
>only good setup for occultist is ranged and kiting
:^(
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>>128061862
They should really decrease its drop rate.
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I have 4/5 of empowered Bloodreaper's set, anyone want to trade?
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>>128065587

You wanted the 5th piece or something? I might have it, are you on HC?
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>>128045127
is pox any good? I thought they nerfed it into uselessness?
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How do i talk to father kymon? the guy says to go talk to him but the gate wont open.
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>>128071397
open your map, Kymon is not behind the closet gate, he's in another room inside the fort
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I just found this out. A little bit of an oversight, even as minor as it is. Still kind of cool none the less.
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hol up
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So whats the dealio with this shrine?
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>>128072301
think about this carefully anon, children have a tendency to cause trouble
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>need a zeal relic to make my mythical relic
>can literally not find the recipe no matter what I do
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>>128072313
it's a nigger shrine
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>>128073218
forgot mf
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>>128072313

Part of the Honored Rover quest, need some stuff to restore it.
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>>128021175
anyone?
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On a scale of Hambeast to Literal Whale, how fat do you guys think this character's voice actress is?
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>>128075081
Grim Dawn Boar level
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why does my game drop fps randomly after playing for a while? is this a known bug? also crashes sometimes when tping
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>>128075081
the audio sounds like it was recorded through a $5 mic in a living room, so annoying
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>steps of torment shrine on elite
Just root my shit up senpai
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>>128071157
I think he's saying since it spreads amongst enemies on its own it's a perfect vessel for some nasty Devotion-based shit.
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>>128071157
>is pox any good?
LMAO. That's like asking if animals shit in the woods.
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>>128072301
>>
possibly dumb question regarding displayed damage.

white = normal hit
gold = crit
orange = ???

I see it sometimes and I can't figure out what it is
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>running well
>all ready up to level fifteen in a short time
>didnt wathc my hp and die
>hc
epic.
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>>128073218
>>128073404

I'll give you one, start a game and post info.

>>128075768
The game has a memory leak, and teleporting seems to increase the ram usage a big chunk each time. When the game reaches 3.5~3.7 giga ram, it will crash.
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>>128082170
will they fix it
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>>128082170
Eh, I dont know if I wanna go down that road. I dont know, it just sort of feels like cheating, and seems like it'd be a slippery slope where suddenly I'm making trades left and right for legendaries I want once I've stopped being self found
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>>128082393
I hope so, playing with 2 friends and the game crashes contently.

>>128082505
Well, start farming bastion of chaos\steps of torment, maybe the merchants there will have it.
You can also farm nemesis bosses, that is, if you can. They see to drop this relic non stop on veteran.
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>>128082505

Unless you hunt Nemesis mobs, recipes are such a fucking crap shoot. For weapons, you can find stuff that could be decent placeholders until you get BiS or what not but for relics, there are HUGE differences between what is optimal for you and what isn't. Many times players will have to use level 25 relics well into the end of elite or as in the case of my friend, into Ult because the recipe/loot needed to make a good one just never dropped.
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>>128083264
The skele merchants sell relic recipes? I stopped checking them since they only ever had crap

>>128083319
>Many times players will have to use level 25 relics well into the end of elite or as in the case of my friend, into Ult because the recipe/loot needed to make a good one just never dropped.

sounds like me
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>>128083546
Yep, but always shitty useless ones. I never found anything I didn't already have.
>>
how common do legendaries become in the end of elite/ultimate? Because I'm looking and there's only like 1-2 of each type of armor I would even consider wearing for my guy..and out of 10+ legendaries for each slot the percentage I'd get one I could use seems awfully awfully low

I know grinding is typical in these types of games but I dont know, especially with the whole ambiguity of legendary drop rates once you outlevel stuff
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>>128085978

Not very common at all. You can't outlevel things in Ult though so if you can farm that fairly well it is the best option for you with Nemesis and Heroes. Games like this promote trading though since you can't realistically find EVERYTHING you want for a character yourself without ridiculous grind time.
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Alright, been trying to make a melee based Witchhunter around poison.

Trying to get up to Execute now, but starting to put points into my poison skills finally.

However, I really have no idea what to do for devotions. Right now I have Scorpions sting, working toward Manticore Sting and Tainted Eruption. Is there anything else that I should really go for?
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>>128085978
Ultimate droprates for Legendaries being buffed next patch.
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what is the best leveling set in elite and why is it praetorians?

>lvl 52 facetanking packs of boars
>mfw
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When did Grim Dawn get a general thread here?

I'd assume recently since the vast majority of what I'm seeing is people being absolute garbage-tier at the game.

>>128091117
> Using Praetorian's
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>>128091308

look at all that vendor pudu
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>>128091420
> Vendoring this

Learn to dismantle.
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>>128091485
then why haven't you?
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>>128091646
Who's to say I didn't.
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>>128091824
why are you even bothering posting garbo images of an outdated build, shitposter-sama?
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Anyone else having issues connecting to servers right now?
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>>128092075
Looks like the matchmaker is down.

>>128092031
Feeling nostalgic.
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We ultimate now
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>>128093002
Post pics of you getting rekt by riftspawn outside DC.
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>>128093002
Oh look it's the same build again ;^)
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>>128093002

You wanna party? I'm in Ult HC too. Maybe we can trade stuff.
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>>128093335
Nah sorry, I play solo only
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>have to invest 102 points in Replication Missiles to make them somewhat okay for Elite (52 in missiles, 50 in Arcanist)
>it still cannot compete with a random granted skill on a standard rarity component

Is there even a point to play this game at this stage or do we have to wait for them to recruit an actual game designer?
>>
In hardcore, can you just copy certain files out of the folder as you play so you can restore them later and not be dead?
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>>128093471
yes but why even play hc then
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>>128093471
Of course. Everyone does that.
You can even automate the backup every 5 minutes or so, so that you don't lose that much progress.

>hardcore.
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>>128093468
> He thinks PRM is bad.

>>128093471
If you're a scrub.
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>>128093557
To show off to you guys.
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>>128093565
This is why D3's is the only HC that means anything.
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>>128093582
i dont blame you because this game is frustrating having no escape moves really. but i just play non-hc to save time.
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>>128093752
> no escape moves
> Shadow Strike
> Blitz
> Chaos Strike
> -of Survival suffix
> Mirror
> Any form of crowd control.

Nice.
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>>128093839
oh please

compare that to any other arpg where you can teleport and shit
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>>128093990
You didn't ask for an easy escape. What would be the fun in a one-button no-worry escape?

git gud
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>>128094062
>git gud
Yeah I'm thinking about a writing script that would automatically backup my save folder on every modification, then would automatically restore it on death.
how about that for gitting gud?
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>>128094376
If you can figure out how to bypass the fact that your save file is modified when you die in an encrypted manner, I'd say you're pretty good at cracking encryption.

Still shite at the game for dying though.
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>>128094472
Nah you're right, it's too complicated.
the script with automated backup is running though, I just made an AutoScript macro that restores the backup file on demand.
So each time I die I just hit F9 and keep on going and posting cool hardcore screenshot in /gdg/.
More coming through!
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do i just place the trainer in the game folder?
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>>128022830
I'm 13 hours late but you're a fucking mongoloid if you think Cooldown Reduction has any effect on Aether Ray.

It scales with Casting Speed retard.
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>>128096752
>>128022830

Which one is it
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>>128097106
casting speed

>>128022830
is a moron
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>>128097106
Alright actually I samefagged between these two posts to answer you, but now I'm bringing in proof.

>>128096752
>>128097162
Are me.

Pic related is handgear giving me +~30% casting speed. Removing it and only it makes the DPS of Aether Ray drop significantly.
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>>128097668
(Still samefagging)

Which makes perfect fucking sense given the fact that Aether Ray has NO COOLDOWN TO REDUCE WITH COOLDOWN REDUCTION.

Christ, how is this even a question?
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Is there a good/up-to-date trainer I can use to add an item to my stash? I'm missing one item for a complete set and farming for a specific thing just doesn't work (RNG) Getting suicidal. The build will probably be shit anyway but I'm still maddening.
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>>128098000
Nice trips.

Stash editoring got borked now that pre-B25 stashes are no longer accepted by the game (meaning only encrypted stashes are recognized).

What item do you need anon?
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>>128098065
Mask of the Harbinger

Ever since I've hit high level (got 72 and 78) and finding set lego items, I've become a little fixated on making new characters that specifically uses a set. Like one of my characters uses mostly Ulzuin's (all but the pistols) and it looks nice. Then I go to my other high level and it's all messy (non-set) shit. Rustles my autism.

I haven't even planned the character tree build at all yet I'm all fixated on set gear now.

So trainers are a no go? Probably a good thing. Feeling I might add more and more shit and be a filthy jew.
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>>128098236
> So trainers are a no go?

Trainers work, stash editors not so much. Although in theory you could inject items into the game through memory manipulation, but I don't think anyone's accomplished that yet.

I do not have a Mask of the Harbinger, sorry mate. :/ I've found about 70% of the Legendaries and that's still on my list.

Mask of the Harbinger is actually a blueprint drop, though: http://gracefuldusk.appspot.com/items/8312-Blueprint%3a-Mask-of-the-Harbinger
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>>128098371
I meant the BP, but yeah. My mistake. My BP luck is awful. I mostly get dupes. Most of Elite isn't even good for my 78 anymore. I need to suck it up on Ultimate but damn frequently get anally-raped in Ultimate--still in Act 1. Imbalanced resists too.
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>>128098000
Just use GDSidekick.
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24896
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>>128097986
>NO COOLDOWN TO REDUCE WITH COOLDOWN REDUCTION.
COULD YOU PLEASE MOUVEOVER YOUR MAIN SKILL MAYBE AND READ THE FUCKING DESCRIPTION
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>>128098609
Whoa that's crazy. Even a blank 75 character? Temptation is insane. I'll give it a further looking and test my patience. Thanks, anons.
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I find out that this game is now complete just as I'm halfway through a BG playthrough. Such bad timing.
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>>128098661
> He thinks the 0.3 seconds skill recharge is referring to the damage rate of the skill.

Hahahaha, holy shit, you're either a troll or one of the most hilariously stupid people I've ever met.

That is the tick rate at which the game checks how much damage you should have done and is hard-coded in. Scaling cast speed makes you do more damage/second regardless of the tick check. Basically at 100% cast speed, you'll hit every 0.5 seconds, meaning that the tick check will actually apply the damage you've done at 0.6 seconds. At 200% cast speed, you'll hit every 0.25 seconds, meaning you'll have hit by the first tick-check at 0.3 seconds.

Even if that wasn't obvious, which it isn't, you're still hilariously stupid because getting more or less cooldown does not affect your damage output on the ray in any capacity.
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>>128098950
(Samefagging)

Another way of looking at it is thus: that 0.3 seconds is actually the incremental duration of the skill, meaning that if you use the skill beyond 0.3 seconds, you cannot cancel it until you reach the next 0.3 second mark - 0.6 seconds (upon which time the game checks the damage you've done).

In the gamefiles, it's actually 0.25 seconds and not 0.3, but the text just rounds up.

> Class = Skill_AttackSpellBeam,
> FileDescription = beam of fire and aether dmg,
> Offhand = 1,
> beamName = records/fx/skillclass03/aetherray1_beam_fx01.dbr,
> distanceProfile = Long,
duration = 0.250000,
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>>128098609
>>128098747

I'd say just start from lvl 60 and elite since normal is too easy anyway

Although, you don't really get a sense for what works and doesn't this way, it's different when you go through different zones and realize what your character lacks.
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>>128098950
>>128099149
how do you deal with hero and bosses when everything they do interrupt your beam and it takes long as fuck to restart it?
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>>128099734
Oh, hell if I know.

I hate playing Aether Ray characters. I just know it scales with cast speed.

For reference (not a reply to you but a general thing to note), the following skills scale with Cast Speed:

Tremor
Callidor's Tempest
Dreeg's Evil Eye
Fevered Rage
Albrecht's Aether Ray
Quick Jacks
Phantasmal Blades
Devouring Swarm
Shadow Strike (windup animation)
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>>128081190
3 tiers of crit dmg or something like that
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>>128099998
nice info. what about Replicating missiles, no influence of cast speed? that's surprising.
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>>128093575
>he thinks it's good

It's just another lazy spell in Crate's repertoire of copy pasting shit from other masteries so that they don't need to do any actual work. Not only is it lazy, it fucking sucks compared to DEE.
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>>128100171
Oh, sorry, yeah, PRM does scale with cast speed.

All of the non-melee component skills also do too.

>>128100213
PRM vastly outclasses DEE in Ultimate difficulty. Learn to play.
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>>128100289
>PRM vastly outclasses DEE in Ultimate difficulty. Learn to play.
Not him and not sure what you are refering to, but I've got a PRM Arcanist in Elite lvl60, with all his skills / devotion / equipment devoted to it, and the problem is not the clear speed but the HUGE energy cost (amplified by all the +cast speed% you get), high skill points investment required and the lacking single target damage (you'll need another skill, let's be honest because replicating missiles don't replicate anymore when all the adds are dead).
What is the secret to make this skill good then?
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>be me
>play grim dawn for first time
>roll conjurer
>play vet non-hardcore
>don't die at all
>WHY DIDN'T I ROLL HC
>enter final bosses lair
>die entering

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAWHAWHWJKHAWJW???

How am I suppose to kill it, I almost died like 5 times on the miniboss before him too
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>>128101297
>what are resists
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>>128101365
He does what dmg though
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>>128101297
He's a pure gearcheck, gives you a taste of Elite.
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>>128101395
Chaos and vitality are the most important for him
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>>128101297
He's broken for petfags though, anon. It's impossible to do him solo if you're not horribly overlevelled/overgeared in Vet.
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>>128101446
K, what components give that resis? I am squishy but my pets literally never die
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>>128101567
>pets

You are fucked
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>>128101564
I'm level 46 atm
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>>128101639
That's pretty low, most of my characters are 50-52 when I face him.
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>>128101402
>He's a pure gearcheck, gives you a taste of Elite.
Yeah, just a taste then, because I'm pretty sure I rolfstomped him and the final BoC entropy boss, went to Elite and got killed by the first random hero I met in Devil's crossing.
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>>128101583
he could technically do suicide runs with his hellhound and win after an hour of doing so :^)


(It's how I did it)
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Discord worth it if I play a Warder?
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>>128100289
>PRM vastly outclasses DEE in Ultimate difficulty. Learn to play.

Play a DEE Occultist and a PRM Arcanist to Ultimate and then come back. PRM is garbage and the only thing going on for it is the Elemental damage and even then everyone who knows something about the damage types knows that Acid is the strongest one in the game at the moment.
PRM is garbage at clearing masses and it's garbage at single targets. DEE does everything better.
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>>128101730
I got fucked by Normal loggy but walked all over Elite like it was no problem at all. People who say that Loghorean is a taste of what the next difficulty is are full of shit.
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>>128102740
>Acid is the strongest
Interestin. Is the DEE aids the only good acid build?
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>>128102870
what are the most fun builds in the game
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So can I for example activate Zolhans technique with the Shamans Savagery?
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When will the first balance patch be that makes all our builds completely shit?
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>>128103926

yeah
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>trying to craft a ring with the right prefix and suffix

This is fucking impossible 2k scrap so far
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Im too lazy to look for myself so I ask here; are there any more devotion with flying shit around me like Guardians Gaze and Targos Hammer and would it be viable to take them all?
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>Got lvl 61 on my toon
>Still need shit loads of levels to max out my remaining skills.

Meh.

How high can you grind bastion of chaos for levels? At what point does it become useless?
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What damage type do the skeleton warlocks in Steps of Torment use? The curse ring they put on the ground seems to do a billion damage.
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>>128106852
It does vitality damage

http://grimcalc.com/monster?f=skeleton_b04_warlock
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>>128106852

Probably vitality
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>>128106360

64
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>>128076515
I noticed this too, and I'm definitely not an audiofag at all.
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Are summoning builds comfy to level up with?

Should I invest in occultist or shaman summons first?
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>>128025250
+5% HP for one point ain't bad
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>>128108041
Not comfy like in D2 because some mobs just ignore your pets.

Max hellhound first and you will probably have no problems until log on veteran.
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>>128105756
they already are
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>>128106360
>>128107087

Did a bastion of chaos run, went from 0% to 20% level 62, not bad. Got a leg also, unfortunately not one that my toon can use
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>>128108376
>toon
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>>128108041
Max hellhound, then max briarthorn. You can go either way now, but I prefer maxing CoA and Vulnerability and finishing the Occultist path.

>>128106360
>>128108376

You're both better off starting in epic by now, only thing that might be worthwhile in normal is fast nemesis runs.
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>>128108625
>normal is fast nemesis runs.

I don't have any nemesis spawns yet, and I need tens of thousands of faction points to get there. How am I supposed to get that many? Is there some trick to this?
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>>128108713
Yea it's called going to the next difficulty level
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Anyone here defeated the avatar of mogdrogen in the current build?

Seems pretty insane right now
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Two questions.
1. Does this game have online play?
2. If it does, is it just direct connect like Torch Light 2, or it is a central persistent server like Diablo 2?
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>>128109162
Yes.

Are you basically asking if it has a lobby?
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So I'm doing an occultist build focused on Acid/Poison damage but I don't really know what to pick for my second class. Do you guys have any recommendations?
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>>128109373
Not exactly. More just wondering if the online play is like D2. Character stored on the server, being able to start games and name them with others being able to see those games in a list and join them.

TL2's online was extremely minimal since it was just direct connecting to someone's IP address, and since there was no anti-cheat mechanism, half the people you'd connect to were just using Cheat Engine. Killed the game for me.
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>>128109595
I haven't actually tried online yet. I'm just opening the game now to check for you. Maybe someone else will answer in the meantime.
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>>128109595
>>128109685
Okay, I went to "Join Internet game" (there was also a LAN option) and I've got a big empty list of current games, the kind you'd get in an online FPS. On the left are my Steam friends. The emptiness of the list is a bit worrying, not sure if it's just for Steam friends but the size of the game list looks like it's meant to be for general games, not just from your friends.
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>>128110225
You need to refresh the list.
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>>128110225
I'm an idiot. I had to refresh the list - I'd have assumed it would auto generate, but there we go.

So yeah, this is how it looks. You can see the other guys' characters on the right.

>>128110302
Yep, just realised that.
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arpgs are fun and all but theres always a few gripes about the genre that NEVER go away
>having multiple playthroughs, the character peaks at 50+
>harder difficulties are just cheese as fuck
>the best builds require specific build items that are basically rng drops
>skills on specific build items dont have analogy in the skill tree
the first two i can deal with, the second two is just shitty grind based design
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>>128109554
witch hunter is your only real option afaik

on another note,
what are some fun builds to play?
I've got a poison mage and a vitality mage atm
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>>128110537
define fun.
for me arpgs fun is literally kill shit fast and go sanic
running a phantasmal blade build right now, its good so far
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>>128110731
something that has more than 1-2 active skills and doesn't blow chunks
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>>128110537
Poison mage is pretty fun for me, except I don't play spamming DEE.
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>>128111197
how do you play poison mage that doesn't DEE spam?
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>>128111343
Seconded. Tempted to go a poison/acid build but not that DEE crap.
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>>128111573
you can go melee poison witch hunter but if there's another way to go poison mage without dee I'd be interested to hear it.
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>>128111343
Noxious poison bomb, NJE, transmuted DEE, Dreeg's Infinite Gaze, Devotion skills. You can stack poison effects if they're not from one skill.
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>>128111573
http://grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24839
This is a general idea. Gameplay is fun and damage is quite satisfying.
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>>128111910
I've been using a very similar build and can second this, both fun to play and has great damage.
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>>128112420
Well, actually I'm playing as a caster for alchemist vibes. NJE is my only melee attack.
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>>128112632
Same, sorta. I dropped dual wielding in favor of a shield. Dropping in and out of packs with shadow strike and dropping eyes/infinite gaze is great.

Saw that the Black Death skill gave BP poison damage/chance to confuse targets which seems attractive but i haven't gotten around to trying it yet. Hearing that it was apparently nerfed a lot was a bit disheartening too.
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how are you supposed to make a 2hand shaman melee class?
everything just kills me

tl;dr im a noob pls help
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>>128113337
http://grimcalc.com/build/zbyFEC
here is my build so far
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do pets only scale from things that say "bonus to all pets" ?
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>>128113694
Yes. There are some pet-like abilities which scales with your damage bonuses.
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>>128113337
I'm horrible at this game so there's a good chance my build is garbage but I have points in Feral Hunger. If you pour all your points into boosting damage you're doing so much damage per hit that hitting multiple enemies with a FH proc is basically a full heal.
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Anyone have a extra desolation and/or zeal blueprint they could toss my way? Im getting really tired of this shitty relic
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>>128114326
If you play on hardcore yes
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>>128113337
http://grimcalc.com/build/SwYMbV
I'd say something like this. Maybe maxing exchange would be better.
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>>128114418
rip
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Does bleed damage scale with anything other than direct % modifiers on items?
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>>128111108
wrong game friend. Even with multiple skills there's no real impact to any of the abilities in this game. Combat is pretty bland, most skills are auto-attack modifiers or built around procs.

There's a few good spells but they get pretty boring after a while
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>>128115193
% total damage
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>Herald of the flame with a poison/tank melee character
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>>128116680
>Herald of flame with anyone

There's basically only a few kind of characters who can kill it fast.
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>mfw you actually can't wear pants in Path of exile
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My Templar tank build with a focus on fire & lightning damage/retaliation and 80%+ in all resistances face tanked Log on elite with only a few potions.

When I tried ultimate, I was getting my anus stretched by 5 rift roach heroes.

I didn't die, but was chugging potions and on the verge of death the entire time.

The difficulty jump from Elite to Ultimate is insane.
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>be caster
>5 epic 2handers in a row
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>>128119061
>be anyone
>crossbow
Does anyone even use rifles unironically?
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>>128119110
what's wrong with rifles?
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>>128119110
Shamans could no?
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>>128075081

same level of hambeast as killing floor's nightmarish 'lovely big guhhnnnssszzz' lady. also poor audio recording.

odd, a lot of the characters you talk to once sound fine, the one you talk to a billion times sounds like shit.
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>>128120128
Im also wondering, is it normal the sigil of ch'ton had the same music as the warden? That seems really lazy.
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>>128120128
>a lot of the characters you talk to once sound fine
maybe because they don't sound at all, literally only merchants, respec lady, stash keepers talk, others are enemies.
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i think sigil of consumption should have some way to increase it's AOE
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anyone got haunted steel or hollowed fangs, or the blueprints? non-hardcore

i have bindings of bysmiel and some other shit i can trade
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>>128121269
Ill give you 5 hollowed fangs for a desolation blueprint :^)
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>>128114326

I have both.
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>>128121269
>bindings of bysmiel
That shit is painfully rare, is there a blueprint for that, mark of dreeg and dread skulls?
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>>128122112
I really only need desolation

Is there something you want for it? I'll be honest, I don't have much outside of some empowered epics
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>>128121269

Post info and I'll trade you

>>128121751

I'll trade with you too.

>>128123676

I'm flexible, I'd even take iron.
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>Having to get revered status with the black legion to access dead man's gulch mine
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>>128123776

Just wait until you reach it and enter.
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Why doesn't shadow strike give phasing? I know the engine doesn't support teleport skills but it being able to be body blocked is pretty retarded.
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>>128123749
How much iron?

I have a decent chunk of scrap too if you want to name a number of that

(I really dont know the price of things)
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>>128123932

12 scrap is good for me. Post info.
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What do you guys think Crate should do, nerf soldier/arcanist or put all the other classes on their level?
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>>128124184
Improve the other classes.
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>>128124060
Just hosted a game called deso trade

password - gdg
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>>128124184
Unless they tone down Ultimate difficulty, they should buff other classes. Blast shield is too fucking situational for example.
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>>128124184
>nerfs in solo game
Just make everyone strong and give everyone good challenge.
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>>128123749
game name haunted steel
pw: gdg
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Doesn't the shrine in Elite Asterkarn Valley give a devotion point?
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>>128124948
Quest is bugged. Says to "kill the Ch'Tonian infesting the shrine" yet I've killed them all already. Hopefully will fix itself on relog.
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Nothing personnel

Favourite build so far.
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How much OA do you need to reliable crit bosses on ultimate?
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>>128099734
>letting people touch you as an Aether Ray caster

This is why Warlock is my favorite class combo for AAR. One point in Curse of Frailty cuts mobs' movement speed in half. Then you just have to run around like a coward and spam the magic laser.
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>>128125983
around 3k+
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>>128124903

Can't find it. you sure you didn't start it on lan?
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>>128126234
Also,
>not getting Chaos AAR
Literally just stop playing AAR if you're not taking the chaos passive.
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chek out my sikk build guys
>1 point in grenado for triggering devotion thingies, should probably use stun jacks instead but i dont like clicking all that much
>enough physique to use elementium
>+elemental damage components give resistances too
>occasionally press the not die button
is there a more braindead way to play this game?
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how do I get a vampiric ruby ring of attack?
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>>128127050
Are you playing with that? Looks awful in both damage and survivability.
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>>128127361
By joining the secret bloodsworn faction.
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What is this crap.
I'm scared to provoke him if it's gonna turn into another Mogdrogden.
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>>128127050
K, but you are using a trainer, so i really don't care about your shitty opinions

also you're still in normal / vet, which is fucking piss easy.
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>>128127495
Acid, chaos and aether damage are kind of a bitch but the rest are decent. Elemental resistances are ~74ish

the offensive ability debuff works sort of decently with the defensive ability buff i get from ulzuin's so I can sort of make up for having crap for armor because i have to use nighthunter's chestguard well into act 3

I can clear mobs relatively quickly but bosses do take a while. atm I only get like ~200 damage per tick from nightblade's aura
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>Use Energy Leech to solve all Energy problems without having tons of Energy Regen itemization
>Ult purple name mobs have like 100% resist to that


COMPLETEY FUCKED. There goes any hope of killing Ult Fabius.
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>>128127968
Nah, he doesn't . You can keep fucking with him.

Basically it's people following what they believe was a God but in secret Kymon made a deal with the Primordials. It's only significant because it means that they are serving a being that doesn't care if man lives or dies, instead of being someone who would lead them to salvation. More of a chaotic nuetral, instead of lawful good as they thought.
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>>128128242
Have you tried using an energy potion?
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>>128128454

I blow through my energy faster than the potion cooldown. I have little spirit and energy pots don't have regen like health pots. Fabius also has some kind of mana burn as well.
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>>128128571
Enchant some ectoplasm for 1, that helps a lot. otherwise generally speaking just speccing into the talent tree helps a lot. I have put 0 points into energy and at level 39, i have 1868 without trying. That's enough to sustain my ~82 energy per second ability spam with potions, as long as the fight doesn't last longer than 2cds, i seem to run out about 10 seconds before the 3rd pot is up, but that only happens on extreme bosses.
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Anyone have any interest in a no talking / no camera streamer? Witch hunter build, chaos strike / chaos phantom blades is the build.
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>78 commando in ultimate
>haven't found a single upgrade in 10 levels

Fuck this shit.
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>>128128324
I am really not sure if the Korvaak, the forgotten god, counts as a chaotic natural. He seems to be another evil fuck that just want to eliminate the competition right now, so he could fuck everyone up instead.

His shrine behind the messenger, and his secret tomb found in Gryver's Mill just scram evil to me.
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>>128129554
farm nemesis spawns for legendary nigga
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>>128129554
Try being 82 and still using a level 35 weapon
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>>128129052
Are you playing HC?

I'd watch either way
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>>128129706
Well true, but that's kind of my point. For the current crisis in grim dawn might be serving his purposes, they also serve humanities, to rid the more immediate threat. So it kind of settles on the neutral line, for now.
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>>128129737
What's the most efficient way for doing that? I'm nemesis with aetherials and the undead.
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>>128129861
No, because I think this game doesn't do hc very well desu. There is some things in this game that have killed me and after 200 hours i still don't 100% get it

>>128129936
i don't know actually, i just read on reddit that nemesis spawns drop legendaries alot
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>tfw able to face-tank everything but it takes a million years to kill shit

It's especially horrible on ultimate. I did Salazar a few minutes ago and the fight took about 10 minutes. I thought picking grenado and maxing that shit out would do something but even with the +230% dmg proc it does just as much as a cadence crit.

Best part about grenado though is
>throw grenade into enemies faces
>explodes
>MISS
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>>128129936

Go to do Arkovien Undercity and Steps of Torment, Moose has a pretty big chance in spawning in either of these 2 places. IF you could, try and get Fabius from Cronley's gang, he is even easier to find.

I have while I found every nemsis multiply times, I have yet to see the Aetherial one with any character. His spawn chance his so low, you might as well treat him like he doesn't exist.

>>128130014
It's a either chaos magic, aetherial corruption, vitality dots, posion/acid bugs or Loxmere Nightmage most of the time.
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>No Necromancer mastery
>No Nature mastery

The pain won't end.
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>>128130937
Mods will fix it anon. :^)

Please. ;_;
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>benny hill intensifies
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Any particular immune enemies to worry about with devouring swarm?
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>>128131878
I think insects take less from vit damage.

otherwise no
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>>128131035
Titan Quest had a mod called Paths with 9 different masteries. One of them was necromancy.

At first you're razzle dazzled with how in depth they all are, until you realize it's a very well polished turd.
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>>128132031
I don't know if they're immune, but leeches have a shitton of vit resistace. I have a melee vit build and they take fucking ages to kill in BoC.
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>>128132740
BUGS
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>>128132306
There was a bunch of Titan Quest mods that added masteries. I tried about 4 different ones including Pathes. You know what they all had in common? they were all fucking shit
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>>128133004
LEECHES ARE NOT BUGS YOU FUCKTARD THEY'RE ANNELIDS
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For that anon that wanted to watch,

twitch / draktok

i've got a mic muted, if you have a question, i will answer, probably.
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>>128129743
yeah right
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>crusing through normal veteran
>haven't died a single time so far, build is working incredibly well for me
>make it to the necropolis
>some fucking nobody champion/hero person instantly blow me the fuck out

who the fuck is loxmere nightmage and why did I just get fucked up in 1 second? I couldn't even react fast enough for a MoE, it was just an instant kill
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>>128133638
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>>128133742
he got another one boys
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>>128133742
loxmere nightmage uses shadowstrike which hits really hard. he also removes buffs
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>>128133460
You should turn veteran on

>>128133910
>inb4 someone says it's level 50

>>128133742

Welcome to the club. I think he has the most HC kills in the game.
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>>128133742

My guess is his attacks come with Energy Burn which damages you based on the the amount of energy it takes off your bar

That and 0 energy = turns off all your buffs like that anon said
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>>128133910

Lemme trade you something. That is just painful to look at.
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>>128133742
>>128134230

:^)
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>>128133742
Same thing happened to me.
Now i'm scared as shit of going back there on my current HC character.
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>>128134428
>>128134230
>>128134068
>>128134643
>>128134703

Jesus, he's not even a boss though. I thought I was just about ready to start my first HC character and now I'm second guessing everything

Losing a character on HC to this fucker has got to be pretty depressing
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>>128134643
Yeah, I read that on the forums.
He needs to tell that to my dead HC level 82 battlemage with good gear.

>Crate confirmed for not playing Ultimate

I do kind of like the idea of him lurking around though, he adds some good tension to the area. >_>

>>128134849
It only drives me to do it again, losing your HC characters is part of the fun.

>>128133910
I have some weapons I can trade. Would the weapons in the picture related be good for you? Probably the Temporal Tempest.
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>>128134643
>not well built (its a poison nightblade / occultist)
>that's what I'm playing as

Well it's nice that a dev confirmed that my char is shit.
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>>128135565
Thanks for the offer, but I like finding stuff on my own and I am not having that much trouble right now as my other gear is pretty good.
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>takes 8 years for me to kill any purple named mob and some heroes in Ult
>the loot is always hot garbage
>feel like I get better/more loot in elite and even normal nemesis runs

Why do I even wake up in the morning
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>farming Veteran BoC at L62 is more fun than Elite
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>>128136414
I know that feeling all too well, mate. I think I'll just farm Elite BoC.
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>>128135757

Yeah figured as much. How is your druid going so far? I want to try a Shaman build myself. Half my drops were for one, so if live gives you lemons....

I also screen capped two wrong items on my picture, I wanted to following weapon and offhand.

>>128136439
All the red gives me headache and I also prefer fighting skeletons to giant anus monsters.
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