/gdg/ - Grim Dawn General

>primal strike
>thunderous strikes
>hueg ass 2hander
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYjlisHj6EM

>>127787574
second for Witchblade master race

Third for Phantasmal Blades OP

>The Harbinger was an expert in ranged combat, preferring the use of a rifle to take out his foes at range. Requires a two-handed ranged weapon.
>Set item weapon is a Crossbow
This rustles my autism far more than I thought it would.

>>127787935
Isn't OP. People only now starting to realise how important LLeech is.

Is there a worse class combination than DemoNightblade?

fifth for you're an idiot, your build sucks, you're wrong, this is how I'm right, and bags of salt

>>127787935
I want to make a witch hunter face fucker with chaos blade spam but not sure how well does it work with blades of wrath active and witchfire

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>>127787061
Thanks, was leaning toward nightblade or demolitionist myself. The dagger I have gives a point to a nightblade skill; do I need to invest a point in that skill to get the +1 to it or will speccing into Nightblade be enough?

>>127787129
>>127787204
Didn't know I could respec things. I guess that'll be introduced later down the line, but it's good to know I'm not locked in. I have tons of ideas for characters and the ability to respec is going to be great.

>>127787153
Thanks, was thinking of using the blood curse DoT with the Curse of Weakness to layer up a lot of blood damage and further boost the dot while maybe setting up a killing field with traps or AoEs, but it doesn't look like the Demolitionist has any decent traps like I was hoping. DoTs for trash and heavy hitting specials for bosses. I was hoping a plaguesmith type build would have been viable/ possible though.

>>127787345
One of the character builds I want to try on a different build is a Shaman/ Occultist zookeeper. How many pets can you have active at one time?

>>127787526
It does make it a bit tough. The eldar fire titian thing I found was easy enough, just kite him around and keep the DoT up. The monsters that have auto heal kick in that outdoes my DoT is a pain though, but now that I know I can get refunds for points spent I can experiment and try things freely.

>>127788383
>Didn't know I could respec things. I guess that'll be introduced later down the line
Spirit guide is right there in Devil's crossing, you can speak to her right after completing your first quest after they open the gates.

>>127788615
Guess I missed her. I'll look around town next chance I get

Fuck Loghorrean.

>>127788383
>how many pets

At least 8 with items and devotions. There is a point when you reach too many pets though.

>>127788956
And the Storm Crow is the best one anyway.

>>127788383
>do I need to invest a point in that skill to get the +1 to it
Yes, you cannot +1 a skill with no points in it.

>How many pets can you have active at one time?
I don't believe there's a cap so you're only limited by how many pets you have access to.
My friend's conjurer had three variety of hellhound, the crow, briarthorn, black scourge, a skeleton, and primal spirit. I might be forgetting some summons from granted item skills. Point is, you can roll deep.

>>127788956
My Conjurer has up to 9 pets. 10 if I swap out an item. But 9 is far more than enough. They block eachother all the time.

>>127789269

More like 4 is too much many of the times. One of them will always be wandering around waiting for his turn to hit the boss .

>>127789269
They don't have clipping, what's happening is only 3 can attack one target at a time.

>>127788956
>>127789269
>>127789462
Noted. Thanks guys, I'll log that and keep it saved up for the next character.

>>127789250
Thanks; figured as much but wanted to make sure. Was hoping that this crawler would be different in that regard seeing as how the skill is one I'd have to sink 20 points into mastery to even be able to access.

YES, ANOTHER SACRIFICE

Do you think they'll change those enemies' "female" voices? And what about voice acting?

>>127789781
just to make sure I'm not crazy.
are you implying that the female voices are just pitch shifted males?

GD has shitty pet AI, the same enemy can't be attacked by more than 3 pets iirc
even if they are in range and don't block each other, they just won't target it

>>127789993
>>127789781
also
>voice acting
HATE AETHERIALS

Can you still get legendaries from Elite BoC, even at level 85? I'm getting empowered epics, but no legendaries yet, am I just unlucky?

>>127790201
hold on, there's a level cap to when legendary equips drop per difficulty?

Anyone else have problems with random areas of ground sparking like items or there or get sounds/ animations and even models of loot dropping, but your unable to pick it up?

Just started noticing that last night.

>>127789993
Indeed.
Also I think putting the character face next to the dialogue box isn't the best choice, they're all generic crap, artworks would be better especially for main characters like ulgrim and creed.
And for the love of god I want a bigger 3d model of my character when I open up the inventory.

>>127790536
I don't think so since I'm getting empowered epics, but after 4 BoC runs without a single legendary, I'm really starting to wonder

>>127790704
just grind nemesis spawns
there's no better way to get legendaries

>>127790704
You clearly didn't sacrifice a lamb to RNGesus this morning when you got up.

Anyone know if cast speed affects storm totem? Does it increase their cast rate or can I just ignore cast speed?

>>127790592
do you mean Broken Items?
sometimes monsters drop what they were wearing/using but you can't pick it up unless I'm mistaken.

>>127790620
Now that you mention it, I can hear it.
also Agreed, portraits should be digitally painted.
I want dyes/the ability to change armor appearance, maybe do something where you can break down an item and get one of its bonuses and then for a one-time deal apply it to another piece of equipment.
I feel like that's been done before, who's done that before?

>>127790806
But then I have to grind reputation first.
...What's a good route to run for maximum chance of running into nemesis spawns?

>>127790956
Steps of Torment seems to do the trick for me. Undead rep is easy to lose, and the steps always has the same nemesis in the same spot early into the dungeon.

>>127791067
>>127790956
Steps, Ikon, Bastion
don't forget to do bounties, they also give negative rep with stuff like undead or death's vigil for example.

Died 60 times to the final boss.

Might as well kill myself.

is it worth using a shield if you don't go into soldier?

The only thing I'd really want from soldier is the +physique and health, and the +shield block chance.

>>127791247

How badly do you have to fuck up your build to die to ANY boss 60 times?

>>127791621
iirc augments/components in shields only "activate" if the shield is used. Off-hands stack directly with main hand
>>127791701
final boss is hard as dicks

>>127791621
there's no point in getting a shield if you don't have 100% block
you can use bulwark for an easy walkthrough and 50 mastery is a shitload of stats

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>>127790952
>maybe do something where you can break down an item and get one of its bonuses and then for a one-time deal apply it to another piece of equipment

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>>127791982

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Oh hey, this guy has an epic MI. Too bad it's apparently for 2-handed Elementalists.

>>127791982
seriously who did that before?
Was it WoW?
Fuck me

>>127792179
also it would have to be randomized which stat you could extract to prevent complete bullshit and encourage more farming.
It's really bugging me that I feel like this has been a thing and it was really unpopular but I think it would work with this genre.

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>>127792139

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>>127792423

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>>127792519

We are gonna need some sort of really random dungeons or map system to keep this game fresh after awhile, think we will get anything like that?

>>127792169
thats not an MI though

>>127792610
nope

>>127792519
>>127792423
>>127792594
Guys pls
I'm sleep deprived and can't make the connection
why am I being smug bullied?

>>127792610
There was talking of a survival mode/endless dungeon separate from the main game a while back.

>>127792649
it is though
just like salazar's blade

>>127792610
modswillfixit.png

seriously though, mods are what kept me playing titan quest for hundreds of hours

>do depraved sanctuary on several level 20 characters with 1k health or some shit
>lol dont even give a fuk these niggas die 2fast

>try it as melee at the same level with 2,5k health
>nigga you wanna tank these bitches?
>too bad fuck you die

>>127792757
ok I'm just going to assume it was a really dumb idea ;~; only thing I can find similar is Crisis Core's materia fusion and that's still pretty far from what I had in mind.

>>127792610
Would be interesting to see a randomly generated multi level dungeon, but I don't think we'll see it though.
Nature of story driven games like this.

>>127794148
we really need a tower of purgatory in GD that you can only visit after reking Log
make it scale to your stats and add riddles and traps to encourage multiplayer

>>127794148
The Bastion of Chaos is pretty randomized and multi level.

>>127794375
I'd be down with that. If we get anything it'll probably be DLC at best though.

Come to think of it, the only dungeon crawler I recall playing multiple times other than this one was the first Torchlight.

>>127789462
>>127789771
>>127789506
And on some bosses (like log, hive queen) only 1 can hit the boss at a time. And reportedly (I've noticed this and there are complaints about it on the forums) that if you use the pet-attack skill and the pets can not target the primary target you selected, they'll walk around aimlessly even if there are other targets right next to them to hit.

Pretty buggy. Also starting to get tired of my Conjurer @ ~72. Gearing is terrible for it. Impossible to get good resists since every pet item had god-awful useless stats other than the pet stuff.

>>127789996
I thought more than 3 can attack a target if there's no obstruction (ie 4 around the boss in a circle) I could be wrong though.

>>127795167
Oddly enough TL bored the hell out of me and so did TQ. I haven't been able to put GD down though and I liked TL2

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>>127795167
Valhalla Knights was bretty gud for a JRPG, same with Rengoku
I wish GD was more than just 'go there kill that' and had players thinking
you know, Crate promised player choices and shit but so far it only affects 1 merchant, faction status and your relation to outcast
why can't we side with aetherials? seize control over the cult of chton and turn it into witch god party with catgirls and shit?
if I can wreck avatar of motherfucking Mogdrog then I can beat aetherials and take the capital for good measure
good thing Ulgrim cucked the Emprah already

>>127795628
no I'm fairly sure than when Ravna was getting attacked by 3 doges my raven straight up ignored it
same with my m8s acid lobster

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On the note of random dungeons, i think we're getting a survival mode eventually which is supposed to be just that.

>>127796392
getting stormed by random adds isn't the same as exploring a fuckhueg labyrinth full of treasures and even more traps

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>>127795871
>acid lobster

im bored IM BORED gds got a bunch of extra stuff to do but the builds are all so BORING

>>127787574
>RIP in peace edition
>implying everyone isn't just restoring their character from a backup-save
Is it where we deluded ourselves into thinking this game has a real hardcore mode?

>>127796576
we are dirty roleplayers, minmaxing is far from being the top priority
plus he didn't really have an alternative to that amulet

>>127796773
Nah I genuinely thought it was funny but couldn't find my chen folder and panicked. Callin' acid lobsters from here on out, used to call them "Fucking bugs"

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>>127796716
>Cheating

>>127796716
>playing hardcore if you're just going to cheat
for what purpose, who are you impressing?
I suppose I can understand being pulled from the PC at a critical time and getting killed for reasons beyond your control and doing it but I can't understand any other reasoning.

>>127796961
what else would you call it?
caustic crustacean? toxic trilobite?

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Commandos report for duty!

>>127797520
sulfurous shrimp?

What's a good shield build, and how many points should I actually be putting into the bullshit ability that is cadence?

Why the fuck they made so many of the soldier's skills so point heavy is beyond me. 12 on cadence at least would have been fine.

>>127797520
septic shellfish?

>>127798021
shields are gay dumbfr*ck

>>127792762
salazars blade is green and has affixes
are you sure youre not retarded?

>>127798161
>tfw use shields in every game
>they are OP in GD now
>still use them and have a collection in my stash but feel like a casual all the time

Is it easier to raise survivability or damage, assuming i focus on the other in my build?

>>127798021

You will have to use Cadence if you do not have another autoattack class with it. You can safely neglect it later in the game when you craft Shard of Beronath weapon component which gives you a really good autoattack ability on it.

>>127797520
Chemical crayfish

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>>127798349
I am sure you're making assumptions
MI is not bound to be rare
MI by definition is an item that drops from certain enemies
you can run that chtonic hellhole multiple times and get incinerators quite often if not always
that makes it a MI unlike some other items

>>127792179
That other ARPG has a system like that. You know the one. The ARPG we don't talk about around here.

>>127797840
>>127798091
>>127798690
poisonous prawn

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>>127797790

What buffs you want fàm?

>>127798751
>am I reading?
>What the fuck

>>127798964
Diablo 3 ? Never even touched it.
I thought they just had visual transmog

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>>127799006

My back profile is better when I'm not on fire

>>127799180
which, by the way, Activision-Blizzard/WoW did not pioneer

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Where should I dump points in at this point? Pretty much unkillable in hardcore elite.

>>127799006
Just buff my shit up

>>127799000
Acerbic anostraca

>>127799180
Nope, you can break down legendaries and transfer their unique mods to other items.

It is extremely silly.

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>>127798021

Soldier/Arcanist or Soldier Occultist (Soldier/Demo but you really have to build up Fire % to be really good)

For Cadence you should put 0 when you get Mistborn Talisman or Shard of Beronath

Early on you'll want to get Targo's Hammer devotion skill ASAP and max out Shield Training, then Overguard. I also have Bull Rush linked to Troll Rage and Trample (for those pesky archers/gunmen). Buff phys and internal trauma dmg for better killspeed

>>127799625
Well shit, now I feel dirty.

>>127798751
you can get them from anywhere else

>>127799707
so? if it drops from certain mobs reliably then it's a MI
you go to cronley's place for pauldrons and they are considered MI despite not always being rare

>>127799462
vitriolic langouste

>>127799625
You can't transfer the mods to other items, they're passive buffs you can choose for your character. You can have one accessory, weapon, and armor effect I believe.

>>127799462
Deleterious decapod

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>>127797790
Pew pew Commando reporting.

>>127800130
Ah. Effectively the same thing, though.

Still very silly.

>>127799380
wait how do you kill shit?
Don't tell me you just Fire Strike bosses for 1 hour.

>>127800091
they dont drop from certain mobs
if anything, they are limited to an act which still doesnt make them an MI
please know what terms mean instead of giving them your own warped definitions

>>127800410
I don't know, I feel like the implementation I had in mind wouldn't be that silly.
>break down item, destroying it
>RNGesus serves you one of the bonuses
>Receive some kind of special consumable with said bonus that you apply as you would an augment or component
>One time onry per equip
I think it would encourage more playing/farming and give the player even more customization. RNG would make creating a bullshit item more difficult, and the one-shot aspect would make you want to hold out for the good bonus.
You could make the augment soulbound but not the item it's applied to to encourage trading.

Okay, it's dumb.

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>>127800982
>monster infrequent
>chtonian cunt = monster
>isn't frequent
>your autistic

>>127801301
do you gain anything from being an idiot on an anonymous imageboard?

>>127800982
What other mobs drop Shar'Zul's Incinerator?
Well, Outcast Hood is supposed to be unique to Anasteria, but that drops from random mobs too, so IDK

>>127801570
they drop from chests, already making them not an MI

>>127801429
going full ad hom won't make your argument any more valid
and I don't lose anything either so it's fine

>>127800256

What gear is that?

>>127801842
you just keep repeating the same wrong shit in three different ways, each time being equally wrong
thats not a way to argue either

>>127801912
Mostly Ulzuin's. The sexiest character I've ever made for sure. Helps that it's mostly lego/set stuff.

>>127800659
Yes but it doesn't take that long actually

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>>127802006
Another picture. Part of why I like it is because it reminds me a lot of an enemy (and I think armour you can use) from Sonny (I think Sonny 2)

>>127801975
>Monster Infrequents are Rare (green) items that can only drop from certain monster types, or in some cases only from one particular Boss or Hero creature.

>Some MI's are "unique" in the sense that they have no base item type, while others do; for example Murderer's Spaulders can drop as a normal, magic or rare item or as the Murderer's Epaulets Monster Infrequent item.
okay buddy

How can you tell if an enemy is a Nemesis? How rare are they?

>>127794148
>story driven game
>some drivel about the ancient evil awakening and stealing our bodies
>linear loot driven ARPG, with shallow character/world building
>story driven

Yeah, no

>>127802454
Not that anon but to be fair, the story, world and characters are some of the best, consistent and not plot-hole-ridden like all other ARPG.

>>127802385
if you died it 1 hit it's probably a nemesis
they also have a red name but more often than not you won't even have the time to check it

>>127802289
you are so FUCKING dumb
murderers spaulders is a white item that can have green affixes
murderers epaulets are a green MI that can have any affixes too
NO MENTION at all of blue/purple items you fuck

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>tfw hit a brickwall in game where I can't balance resistances, OA-DA, and damage % before jumping to elite..

>>127802817
good luck when you get to ultimate

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>get to 15
>start new character
>get to 25
>start new character
>get to 35
>start new character

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>aether formation
>engage it in melee
>miss

>>127802580
maybe in comparison to anything in the last 2-3 years. But then there isn't much to compare it to recently.

I was thinking about making a lightning oriented build and was wondering about stun jacks, anyone have any experience with how good/bad they are?

>>127802385

You can tell if there's a giant black/blue boney chest and some scary fuck tries to kill you for looking at it. Supposedly they'll spawn randomly in preset locations 100% of the time each game but not all locations are known.

>>127803584
go druid of you want a lightning build.

>>127799652
Thanks mate. Will work towards this.

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>>127803436
>enemy is knocked down and not moving at all
>melee
>miss

>>127803207
that's because you realize that any character combination you make is the same boring shit.. Keep trying to find an exciting and interesting build, anon. Let me know when you do.

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>Health regen bonuses on gear are complete shit
>retaliation doesn't work on ranged enemies
>must raise resistances
>must raise offensive and defensive ability
>must raise damage modifier(s)
>aether damage is liquid shit
>tainted brain matter and such crafting material are way too fucking rare
>no movement based skills whatsoever

>>127803880
>lob a fucking GRENADE an a zombie
>it hits him in the fucking HEAD
>M I S S
wew lads I am fucking done

>>127804108
Blitz
Pneumatic Burst
Shadow Strike

Tell me why I should play this game instead of waiting for 2.4

>>127804356
>Just be one of two out of the six classes anon!
>Games perfectly fine!

>>127804757
what the fuck is 2.4?

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>>127804356
>Rush to enemy and generic speed increase are movement based skills
Are you fucking shitting me nigger? No dash, no jumps, no hopping back, no teleport
Is it this engine that can't do it at all,or just a design choice?

>>127805216
first of all, engine is shit and can't handle teleportation, which is why all blink strikes are coded as +500% movement speed
second of all, GD isn't DMC so there's no need for *teleporting behind you*
more often than not you won't even kite because you will get slowed and have to fight for your life or use one of the many oh shit buttons

>>127805015
That wasn't implied at all.

>no movement based skills wahtsoever
>here are a handful of them
>b-b-but not every class has them!
>also stop saying saying things you didn't say or imply at all

People like you should not even be posting. Huge goal post shift and putting words into other people's posts.

>>127805216
They affect movement so yes they would be. Just because they aren't what you want doesn't invalidate them of being such.

so i joined kymon's chosen as a spellbreaker
did i dun goofed?

>>127803727
That's nice, but what about the stun jacks?

>>127805864
They're trash for stun. Not sure about damage. Probably mediocre as well.

is there any good ranged caster build at all

>>127806041
AAR. DEE.

Not sure what else.

>>127805960
Well, that sucks.
Hopefully i can get it to work anyway. Druid does look really good but i'd like to try something different.

>>127805825
Just choose the necrofags after getting to the next difficulty.

>>127806209
They might be decent if you spec for them (lightning damage) it's just most people who use them only try them for stunning. I can't say about their damage or if you spec for them.

>>127806041
demo with flash freeze
thermite shitters are ridiculous if you place them right

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>Devotion path plan has nothing but chance on critical effects
>Fight a hero mob, check my crit chance
>0.0%
Does this shit get better at higher level or is crit fucked in this game?

>>127806560
high crit is only viable for nightblades/arcanists or very specific builds, so dont bother

>>127806560
get OA devotion and use shit like COF or FB to lower enemy DA
it's totally possible to crit shit without putting pts in cunning due to retarded OA% on items and constellations

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>>127806560
You have to sacrifice better fitting bonuses in favor of offensive AND defensive ability

Made demo man, went rank 1 firestrike, maxed the aoe, electricity and brimstone thing for it.

What secondary class should i take? Nightblade to dual wield pistols? Atm running with 2h crossbow.

>>127805139
Diablo 3 RoS, patch 2.4

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>nightblade for DW pistols
should we tell him?

>>127808387
nightblade doesnt let you dual wield pistols, but its probably the best idea
the other idea is arcanist, for straight fire damage and damage resists and thats it
eventually soldier if you dont like dying

>>127808795
>NB for twin pistol
No. Why would you?

For twin pistols you pick between these 3; Soldier Arcanist Demo.

>>127808506
top fucking kek

Please tell me dual wield nightblade is viable later on because I'm having so much fucking fun at level 15

How do I stop being so damn squishy though?

>>127810096
yes, its one of the most reliable and powerful masteries in the late game
pick soldier/arcanist as second mastery

>>127804108
you can swap rare materials at horrus, the spooky blacksmith at the necropolis

>>127810278
>soldier/arc
only if you are a babby casual

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Recommend me a devotion for a Demolitionist.

>>127810821
here we go. hsg going to adopt the "good builds are for shitters" meme as well.

>>127810938
any build can be good
picking soldier or arcanist is the same as choosing normal difficulty compared to elite

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>>127811151
yea sure thing buddy.

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>>127811346
I bet you use healing potions too you fucking shitter :^)

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>>127811508
I bet you attack enemies too you fucking shitter :^)

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>>127811569
I bet you use anything but a trackpad to play GD you fucking shitter :^)

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>>127811704
>>127811569
>>127811508
>>127811346

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>>127812153
go back to casualstone, Kripp
this game isn't any good

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>Thread quality plummets when US kids are home from school

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>>127812756
>US kids
>going to school

>>127811704
OKARIN TOO TOO ROOOOO~

>>127812756
>6pm

they must really like school

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>>127812837
Mayushii desu

>>127809062
>tfw I will never have competitive leader boards in GD
>tfw the patches will stop flowing before D3 and the game will die
>tfw it will never have even close to the player base size

Why live?

Veil of Shadow - yay or nay?

>tfw will never have the whole perdition set at the right level

>>127814154
yay with curse
nay if you are ranged and not witch hunter

>>127814249

This

Fuck having it at lvl 60 nigga

>>127814249
>>127814358
>Got the full set on main character and wanted to make a sword and boarder next
Felt pretty great

>>127814769
retaliation isn't viable on ultimate

>>127814923
Really? Why?

>>127812756
You mean
>thread quality plummets after 5 generals because the game is vapid reskinned TQ

Meh, I'll wait until the expansion releases and see if this is any better.

>>127816778
>no scaling with mastery
>only works against melee
>can't crit
>loses effectiveness if enemy misses a lot/gets disabled
I wonder why

>>127816871

Nope, this alwyas happens at this hour, thread is fine until then

>>127805216
the game is shit. the engine is shit. You thought it would be new, but its TQ reskinned with lmao ayy liens. Sorry, anon

>>127818469
And yet here you are.

>>127817134

>Can't crit

There are crit builds?

>>127818719
Waiting on the new PoE patch, desu senpai

>>127819205
Then go to poeg.

>>127819292
how about you suck my dick. I want to talk about this piece of shit game

>>127819604
I'm sure you have a great life with that awesome attitude and perspective, anon.

Why are people so threatened they come here to shitpost?

>>127819693
Go back to crate forum if you want unabashed positivity

>>127819906

Probably the fact they realized they got scammed by playing and supporting the literal cancer of gaming their always online f2p garbage is

>>127818469

TQ is the best ARPG ever made tho so more of it was a good thing

>>127819953
>if you don't like one extreme you must like the other!
Fantastic attitude, perspective and logic. Never cease to amaze.

>>127820182
what about my statement is extreme? The game is quite LITERALLY a reskin of the predecessor. All they did was flip the skill trees sideways, recycle some assets and make up some bullshit about spooky spirits invading from the netherworld and call it a day

>>127820354

Nah you called it shit, you're just moving goal posts to not look stupid now.

I am a faggot incapable of playing and enjoying multiple games

>>127820354
>Reputation
>Bounties
>Devotions
>Decent crafting

Pretty sure none of these were in TQ, senpai.
It's the same engine, and it's an ARPG, just like TQ, yes. And a fuckton of the skills are very close to what we had in TQ as well, although there are plenty of other ones too.
But hey, why don't you go play Titan Quest if Grim Dawn is so shit?

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>POE shitposters are so bored of their shit game they have to come here

>>127817134
>>127818839

Please respond, the guy claiming retalation isn't viable smells of bullshit, what do you think?

>>127821156
There's no way retaliation will be viable in Ultimate. I mean, sure, you can probably make it work somewhat on regular mobs and melee heroes, but it would take years to kill anything.
Also, what would you do with ranged mobs?

>>127821156
getting hit seems like a bad plan for ultimate

>>127820973
Same as D3 faggots.

>>127821332
Then why does everyone say soldier is one of the only viable class in ultimate?

>>127821617
because you can't not get hit at all and soldier has unrivaled survivability

>>127821292
>>127821332

Your reasoning is dumb, retalation are melee hits that don't rely on your swing and use other dmg modifiers, saying things like "it doesn't work on ranged" is like saying that melee hits are not ranged.

Saying "it relies on enemies hitting you" is like saying your melee relies on you hitting the enemy, if you have low OA you will not hit, if you have high DA you will not get hit so you do the same you would do for melee, you build around it.

Retalation is simply extra melee attacks that rely on the enemy to activate, and you're gonna get hit when you're melee, regardless if you built around retalation or not.

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>>127821998
top b8

>>127821998
I'm probably falling for some bait here, but I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt:
Yes, but retaliation damage does not trigger on ranged attackers.
I'm actually not sure of whether or not it relies on OA either, but if it does, you're probably gonna run into problems hitting enemies in Ultimate, and if it doesn't, it can't crit (You can get pretty ridiculous numbers of retaliation, though)
What I'm saying is, you can't rely on retaliation only. You need something else as well, to deal with ranged attackers and situations where you get mobbed by 4+ heroes at the same time, and can't tank them for extended periods of time.

>>127821908
is there anyway to build a soldier that doesn't involve spamming the default attack? Like can I run shield tank and have good survivability while dual classes to something else that's not shit?

>>127822803
bulwark+ST witchblade with 1 point in OG for regen and stun reduction works wonders
too bad there are no lategame caster shields, Crate really fucked that up

>>127822803
You could go with warder and spam wind devils and storm totems. But it's more fun with a 2 hander.

Is there a site I can look up where to find certain components? If not, where do I find severed claws?

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>>127822963
>too bad there are no lategame caster shields, Crate really fucked that up
>Witchblade
So... Something like this?

>>127823108

You make them from chipped claws with a blueprint

>>127822963

Empowered elementium?

>>127822803
I'm playing a Forcewave build while stacking trauma. Gives you ability to kite hard bosses and thin out dangerous packs before you just melee them.

Most likely not ultimate viable build. Farming BoC veteran atm.

>>127823465
trauma can stack on itself? How many times?

>>127823325
now compare this to legendaries
you don't really use epics, do you? lmao

>>127823349
not on a witchblade

>>127823550
I meant stacking it on gear and skills. It doesn't stack on mobs I'm pretty sure.

>>127822963
what would my attack be as a witchblade? I don't see any synergy there at all

I still don't like how Mornay sees Elsa as a daughter but Elsa says he sees her as his dead wife. I want to say his dialogue was a bit different in previous builds but I don't remember.
Either it's an error and they flat-out forgot to update/change text, or one of the two is outright lying.

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>>127824024
retaliation and procs on block for trash mobs, sigil and blood for sustain, pox with modifier low level heroes, doom bolt and possession for bosses
dying god constellation works wonders
play with a totem conjurer to see some serious shit

>>127824496
I have a totem conjurer right now and he's being trashed in elite right now... Gets one shot in ACt 1 by stupid shit....

>>127825226
you probably don't have enough vit damage or max vile eruption

>>127824335
What's wrong with having your daughter as wife?

>>127825393
im using totems. Not vile eruption. There aren't enough points to max wendigo, storm, saleals, sigil, AND DEE

This game is almost as bad as D3 at launch.

>>127826215
That's not even what I implied.

Anyone know when that awesome games done fast run of D2 is happening? This seems like the best place to ask since only faggot wow babies play D3.

>>127826846
You said it's either an error or one of the two is lying, but im showing you that there exists another alternative. If Mornay was married to his daughter then it would make sense without any of them lying

>>127826224
what? you will have 8 points left after maxing swarm, vulnerability, sigils, second rite, both totems and vile eruption with 1 point in gaze for CC

>>127827003
https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule

diablo's are tomorrow at 10am east

>>127827804
Thanks anon.

do I just need caster weapons, off hands and +whatever damage for phantasmal blades

>>127828212
>using ez mode fag blades
why not go for maximum cooldown reduction shadow strike instead?

>>127827249
who the fuck is level 85 by the time they enter elite, anon?

this is my build so far http://grimcalc.com/build/16nbQ2

what exactly would i change to make DEE worth the point investment?

Also where do you suggest I farm for better gear? My resists are shit, that's for sure

>>127828541
why not suck my dick?

how do I get homestead to give devil's crossing food?

>>127828769
Get reputation with them to honoured.

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>>127797520
virgin vanquisher?

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>finally get an upgrade you've been looking for
>see lvl requirement

Thanks I guess

>>127828212
seeing as you're not going to be attacking, just go for whatever gives the best effects i guess

>>127828738
you need vile eruption more than levels in curse since you only benefit from vulnerability part
get 1 eye, 1 gaze and dump the rest into vile eruption
also remove shaman aura and blood, you will be getting all the health from wendigo

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>mfw found an empowered shield with 96% vitality resist

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would anyone want to watch me die in the steps of torment hardcore vet?

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>>127829587
yes but only if you post feet

>>127829168
>http://grimcalc.com/build/16nbQ2

i put levels in curse just for the radius, since at level 1 it targets a pitiful number of mobs

>>127829587
Yes.

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>>127829671
>>127829842

hitbox( dot) tv/waifumaterial

>>127831372
cute pussy

Witch Hunter or Warlock for DEE?

Elite is fun. I like the way this game handles difficulty. It's not a gearcheck, more of a check on your ability to adapt to damage types. It's a fancy way of saying "stack resist or get killed by shrimps", but it's better than D3's "farm legendary sets to be viable".

>>127834879
exactly how is this different? If you don't have the resist you obviously have to go farming. Its the exact problem I'm facing now, with trivial white mobs chunking at my health due to low resists.

Haven't found an upgrade yet that would let me play competently in about 5-10 hrs of farming

>>127834879
>Get gear with resists or you're fucked
>Not a gearcheck

>>127835372
it took me awhile to upgrade my gear as well but you can also craft or buy some good items. Sometimes I just start a game, check the vendors, exit game, and repeat till I find something worth buying.

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>about to wreck log in hc vet
>fighting thalonius
>kiting a bit while the DoTs do their magic
>SS in
>he decides to use chaos barrage at that exact moment
>his CB doesn't have a windup like bolivar's
>eat every projectile at melee range
>die

well that was fucking bullshit at least now i know to wait until after he's shat his chaos turds all over the room before warping into melee range

>>127833756
nightblade has a shit load of ways to increase poison damage so i'd go with witch hunter

>>127835779

That fucking blows. My friend died to Bolivar's shotgun. Shotgun skills in general are kinda bullshit. Not as bullshit as Mr. Imma remove your buffs and 1 shot blink strike you though.

>>127835372
I solved the problem by revamping my devotions and putting right components on my gear, I never felt like I gotta go farm for a particular item in order to not get blown the fuck out. Maybe things will change on Ultimate.

>>127834879
>It's not a gearcheck
>stack resist or get killed

>>127838795
You don't really need to grind to get those resists though. Just playing through the game gives you more than enough to get whatever resists you need to a suitable level.
I never feel like I need to go grind until I get a particular drop in this game.

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>>127829587
>>127829671
>>127829842
>>127831372

ez

>>127839290
Does UI scale affect item names on the ground too?

I see plenty of people whining that the game is just a left-click fest but as a nightblade/soldier I find that I have too many good skills and too little fingers for them, it's terrible

>>127839290
>never did the Slith necklace quest

>>127840227
Like I'm going to pay some asshole 100 bits for anything.

>>127840342
He gives you a pretty good ring with loads of poison resist.

>>127840342
>100 bits
>anything

best melee build so far ?

I'm not gonna copy it, I just want to know what it is so I can make something better.

>>127841738
also I played soldier / nightblade dual wield in previous versions of the game and it seemed to be the easiest.

I just specced into Phantasmal Blades, how does this work with Dual Wielding? Should I just play sword and board rogue instead? I'm not sure how dual weapon DPS factors into this.

>>127788206
>great damage
>great utility
>decent sustain

u fucking w0t m8

nothing with NB in it will be the worst class combo anyway

>>127840342
Roleplaying as a jew? I can respect that.

>can't get anyone to play cause the meme early access shit on steam

why are my friends such niggers

So if I'm currently halfway through elite, do you guys think I should stop and try to grind a faction to nemesis? It seems like theres a number of level 60-65 legendaries but by the time I would get nemesis through the regular game, I'd probably be level 70 and the better ones would be dropping and those old ones would sort of be "lost" forever

Im assuming this is how it works or am I wrong and you still get level 58-65 legendaries from nemesis chests when you're a high level in ultimate?

can you respec everything ?
skilltree, devotion tree and character stats ?

>>127843783
u can respec ur attitude mister

>>127843783
no, not everything

>>127843976

I laughed.

>>127843783
skills and devotions, not stats though.

>>127843783
just skilltree and devotion tree

If I buy a writ for the chosen dudes will it give 2x faster negative gain with devils vigil as well?

>tfw bleeding build in steps of torments
god dammit skeletons

New here - whats the best way to get a relic recipe I need?

I need to make one to make the relic I actually want but I dont have the recipe. Its a level 50 one if that helps

Does any other noob wanna play with oppa?

just hit act 4, can anyone tell me when poe gets fun again?

is this the new arpg general

>>127846504
>poe
>fun

;)

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>>127846659
>>127846862
>mfw the Grim Dank habbening

I knew it. I fucking knew it and no one believed me.

>>127846248
With what

>>127845131
and yet they're effected by poison

>>127848340
>hes not a kpop fag

me

Dead game.

Am I retarded or is it not possible to Respec the points you've used to climb a mastery tree? I want to take some out of my secondary.

>>127851824
only because no one will play with me :(

>>127852794
It says right there ingame that you cant take away from Mastery points.

>>127853051
Fuck that's god damn annoying.

You're strong but now I will demonstrate my true poOOOOOWEEEERRRR

>>127850598
Kill yourself.

>>127853270
Yeah, I was stupid with my first character and respecced some points just into a mastery to meet attribute requirements.

>>127854036
omo

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309th for I hope this game goes even bigger on launch, all of you are pretty fun guys.

>>127856956
nice save nigger

steam group when

>>127857129
Didn't notice the thread was dying, neat.

>>127813609
Well, we can see some kind of the ladder based on character level... Expansion is already promised and sales going well i think, keeping in mind, that company is quite small yet. So patches wouldn't stop flowing any time soon. About player base, first it's pure single player game, so it's not that important.

fuck expansion
people were suggesting changes for several years and devs straight up ignore it
just wait until they release modding tools so we can have real classes, real enemies and real fun

>>127859932
Ok bye

>>127859932
go on

>>127859932
see you next week

>>127860181
but im still going to be here?
just dont give a fuck about devs the moment game fully comes out

>friend opens Gates of Anguish
>passes through
>I can't move through them
>google issue
>fixed August, 2014

This game is nowhere near ready for launch lmao.

>>127846193
Just luck, and some Ulzuin praising

Which one you need? I might be able to help.

somehow op pic and edition is accurate

>>127862163
>90 hours in game
>no bugs encountered

stop being a nigger

>>127862735
>he only plays alone
sad faggot

>>127862954

mix of both desu, stupid nigger

wikia main page looks fucked

>>127862735

I have a couple hundred hours, and I experienced a few.

>items drop through floor never to be seen again
>blitz an enemy only to get stuck midway, doing a running man non stop until I died.
>friend turning invisible
>trade button not working
>Ulgrim btfo the void and staying the whole fight with me
>finding a weapon with skill missing

looking at it now, game is not out yet, but has less bugs than 99.99% of the other games out.

>>127862954
>not playing at your own pace

Trying to do elite with a pure demo and the game refuses to drop anything with aether resist.

>>127864902
craft it

Threadly reminder to accept Dreeg as your lord and savior.

>>127865514
threadly reminder to stop forcing this meme

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>Been autismally farming mats for Badge of Mastery with 3 friends the past couple days
>We craft like 20 of them
>This one pops out
RNGesus loves me.

>>127866145
additional levels in maiven barely grant anything though

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Why don't they just make it so that Hardcore characters, when they die, can be brought back to life as Softcore characters?

That way you preserve the purity of HC runs, but people who die in HC and want to keep going with the same character can still do so.

>>127869130
because this is a game with little to no pussyfooting and no god damn fucking casuals god dammit hardcore is hardcore

I think it is silly though

Does Solael's Witchfire work with Aether Ray? I'm still not completely sure how skills like Solael's functions.

>>127788206
Im using that right now and doing just fine. Basically just using the retaliation abilities from demo though so its almost a pure nightblade build. But honestly, I'm kicking ass with it.

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is that area of the map supposed to be like that? it just uncovered itself

>>127871178
I got those in the snow mountains too but not Blood Grove. Must be a bug.

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>>127869130
Just don't play HC if you don't want to be locked out after one death.

>>127870491
>Does Solael's Witchfire work with Aether Ray? I'm still not completely sure how skills like Solael's functions.
AFAIK they count as a passive buff when they're active. So it should affect AAR.

It's easy to test though. Put AAR in your attack slot. Look at your DPS stat. Activate Witchfire. Look at your DPS stat again.

>>127870491

Yeah I'd try that but I'm deciding on whether or not to commit to Warlock or not, pure Arcanist at the moment.

>>127871435
>>127871508

Whoops

>>127866145

>Maiven sphere of casuals

>>127873515
More like Maiven's Sphere of not losing your HC Ultimate character.

>>127873960
>Maiven sphere of casuals