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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, January 6th:
1205 – Philip of Swabia becomes King of the Romans.
1492 – The Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand and Isabella enter Granada, completing the Reconquista.
1900 – Second Boer War: Having already sieged the fortress at Ladysmith, Boer forces attack it, but are driven back by British defenders.
1912 – German geophysicist Alfred Wegener first presents his theory of continental drift.
1951 – Korean War: An estimated 200–1,300 South Korean communist sympathizers are slaughtered in what becomes the Ganghwa massacre.


>News
>Victoria 2 Patch 3.04 beta is out. Check the archive.

HOI4 DD38
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-38th-development-diary-18th-of-december-2015.898240/

CK2 DD11
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/dev-diary-11-stopping-the-snowball.896247/


>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/


# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[EU4] - BDSM
http://pastebin.com/vYbnKvK2

>>[CK2 - 2.4.3] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - 7 Days v0.1
http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.2.1 - 23/12/2015
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.5
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V6
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[HoI3] YAMDaM v0.54
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md4tzqe2gg6stfv/

Old thread >>127544061
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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Second for wondering if HPM saves can be converted to HOI 3
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>>127611793
No, the HRE won't even be a formable nation, the emperor can form Germany around 1880-1890

Here's how it will work:
The Emperor has a modifier for some bonuses, and a country_flag which is just to signify that they're the emperor. All the tiny German nations start in the emperors (Austria's) sphere. In 1840ish and around 1860-70 (depending on who's emperor) the emperor will die and the electors will vote for Austria or if Bavaria is a GP they will vote for either depending on relations and whoever gets 4 votes wins and gets all the spherelings. If neither Bavaria or Austria is a GP the crown goes to Prussia. If all 3 aren't GPs the empire is dismantled. Prussia can choose to dismantle instead of getting the crown too.
>>127612274
The Dutch Monarchy got kicked out of the Netherlands and now have a government in exile there, they also own only a fraction of indonesia since the various sultanates took advantage of the crisis.
>>127612405
Never
>>127611907
You're right, it should be a 'premium' haircut
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When will there be a new release of Legacy of Slovenia mod?
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>>127612887
what do the radical yugoslavians have to do with the legacy of slovenia?
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>>127613107
The founder is the one doing it
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>>127613183
proof?
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>>127612904
Why does Franz die? Does he get assassinated?
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The balkanized America mod is fuckig broken

not only does it require HPMeeme, but New Mexico is divided between California and Colorado, with New Mexico controlling only half of itself.

Oh and Texas has a slice of the Canadian northwest territories

Not to mention the three defunct decisions that clutter the game like Chernobyl cluttered Belarus
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>>127613183
I thought that was unHPM, or do you have your conspiracy theories confused?
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>>127613327
Clearly he is assassinated during the storming of the Vienna palace in 1848 by anarchists.
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>>127613256

>>126953720
>>126954015
>>126954214
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>>127613256
It's true.
t. Cobra AKA Legacy of Slovenia lad

>>127613058
An alpha release should be out be Friday, I'm just doing some final tweaking to make sure everything is playable. Primarily I want German Unification to be doable in this release.
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>>127612904
w-what about Poland, anon? Is Poland strong?
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>>127613521
based cobra
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>>127613521
Fuck off back to your steamgroup
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>>127613517
but he specifically said he separates meme discussions from his mod
plus he's one of the few contributers of original mods we have, so there's really no need to chase him off
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>>127613521
You are a true memer lad.

t. Kev
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>>127613738
>few
We're pretty over-saturated atm tbqphwyl
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>>127613738
>Implying you can scare me off
Been here for years me mate, not leaving anytime soon.

But yeah, I try to keep my memeing and my modding seperate, hence why I don't sign my Legacy of Slovenia posts t. Cobra unless someone is explicitly bringing that stuff up.
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>>127613738
>he used a converter to convert his game a long time ago
>this gives him a free pass to raid the thread and spam it
Once a shitpoter, always a shitposter

>original
>converting a game
>original
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>>127613521
ignore the 1-2 autists who can't stand to see any non-hpm content being posted like >>127614003
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>>127613327
Nah, Francis lives another 10 years and Ferdinand "rules" until the 70s. Franz takes over when he dies. The 80s is only there for if Bavaria somehow manages to become emperor on the 40s election, Maximilian has a chance of living to his later 70s.

>>127613548
Poland is not strong, but since I felt bad and I am a pole I let the 1831 uprising actually be somewhat successful. Now there is a tiny polish state called The County of Warsaw similar to Krakow that will get eaten by Prussia or Austria in the 50s.

Besides Warsaw 3rd partition borders are in effect
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What would cause vicky 2 to crash when selecting armies and navies? I tweaked some of the unit stats, did I do something wrong?
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Epic Magyar, thanks Russia, napoopan and Prussia, now my quest for glorious Yugoslavia has gotten a lot easier.
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>>127614101
>ten uczuć gdy jest nas dwóch
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>>127614101
>I am a pole

t.adus
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As Brandenburg should my first move be to vassalise The Teutonic Order or is there a better way of doing things?

In regards to EUIV, of course
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>>127614393
Also, the ottomemes got uterly destroyed after a war with France for Greece rip Mehmet.
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>>127614279
bump
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Is 7 Years War mod guy here? Greece doesn't get cores on Constantinople and Scutari when it enacts Megali Idea. (Greece should probably start with cores on Constantinople desu)
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>>127614946
You are probably running a mod that's incompatible with the latest patch (or a mod for the latest patch in the old version)
If it's HPM, there's a version for the beta and a version for 3.03
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Buy HOI4

BUY IT
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reminder to report and ignore shitposting
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>>127614815
which map mod are you using
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>>127612664
In the EU4 description for the eunuch advisors to the Ming, Paradox describes colonization as a short term endeavor with only immediate rewards. I can find no example in the game, much less historical precedent, that would corroborate this claim. Has there been any explanation for this?
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>>127615431
Cool map mod
>>127614815
Filthy nigers raped poor natalia to death rip Natal, an early Rhodesia.
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>>127615431
Oh and yeah it's on the archive.
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All this shitposter flood this thread because they are jealous of us
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>>127615673
And the game crashed on the decisions tab, too bad for muh yuguslavia, gonna downgrade the game and try again /blog
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>>127616318
t. rump
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>>127615212
You must be properly autistic to not get hired for retail, lad. WoW
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Someone should make this mod.
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>>127617384
Then do it faggot
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>>127617384
who designed this map? an alien?
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>>127617384
>greenland
>temperate steppe
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that's real fuckin' WU LAD
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>>127617690
>civilised china by 1880
>GREAT POWER CHINA BY 1880
what the fuck anon
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>>127617825
If I had to guess, he changed tag to Qing, changed the government with an event, enacted the 'Become China' decision and tagged back to Greece.
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>>127617961
I really didn't. Literally haven't changed tag all game. I don't think 7 Years War mod has railroad events to keep China down.
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>>127617961
That's real fuckin convoluted, why bother?

>>127617825
He's playing the 7 years mod, which isn't HPM and doesn't have as fucked to death a China.
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>>127617384
>desert in India
>Right next to major ocean
>No rain shadow desert the other side of Himalayas instead

What bullshit is this. Basic geography
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>>127618242
Not really, I did it once because I wanted an easy westernization and my aim in that game was to ethnically displace east africans only using colonial migration.

The Opium War events don't occur to the China tag
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>>127618581
I think it starts out as The Chinese Empire and not Qing Empire, too.
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That's not what state atheism is, Johan...
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Why is this allowed?
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>>127618852

what? ive only gone as far as secularism because i didn't want to fedoracore my population, but if that's how johan's defining it i guess i should give it a go
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Prestige or 10% jingoism?
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>>127619749
Prestige, jingoism is only useful if you want to add wargoals
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the carolina islands sure do start a lot of great wars
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>paradox will never make a good converter
>paradox will never make a good game again
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is there any reason not to pass social reforms?

t. ameriga
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>>127620335
some of them can make your factories a bit less efficient or cost you a bit of money, but they're generally worth passing
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>>127620473

will it cause the socialists to gain or lose popularity?

t. 20% socialist voters in muh capitalist america
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Why is the AI so completely fucking incompetent?
>playing poland
>pommerania attacks brandenburg
>enforce peace so I can join the war to attack pommerania to take danzig without incurring the wrath of austria
>my vassal swarm comes in
>make sure to put their AI on attach
>they don't attach
>whatever
>fight their 20k stack with my 26k stack
>my vassals just fucking sit there watching this fight instead of joining
>get memed on by dice rolls and lose
>vassals still just sitting there in already occupied territory
>at this point all of pommerania is sieged except their fort and capital, and brandenburg has only lost their capital
>outnumber them 3 to 1
>brandenburg, who is the war leader, accepts their demands for me to release one of my vassals
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>Playing as France in vicky 2
>germany declares war on me and brings the UK + all of central europe against me
>barely hold them off but win
>5 years later repeat
>5 years later repeat
This has completely sapped my will to play this game. The AI gets to ally with all of fucking Europe but I can't ally with a single fucking great power. Amazing
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>>127620637
no clue, but i always pass reforms and have never seen the socialist party come to power in the USA
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>>127620708
You can dismantle germany to take their cores off A-L
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>>127620728

alright thanks. ive kept the democrats in power 1836-1900 but i havent passed any social reforms and the socialists are growing in power
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>>127620873
This time I'm not going to be able to win. They out number me so fucking bad and even though I was able to hold them off and fuck them up at the start and end up being at like 30 warscore only from battles, they wouldnt accept peace and theres no way I can win.
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>>127619749
Prestige of course

>>127619830
You can always add cores anyway
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is it worth it to invest in other countries?
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>>127621557
Its free industry points and lowers the influence of other nations. It only costs money, which you should have more than enough of to buy every railroad in the world if you are a decent GP.
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>>127621557
If you are Prussia in the german states yes, otherwise else is useless even italy
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Poll on a new name for Al-Rashid Emirate.

http://poal.me/x2uinh
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>>127622376
>http://poal.me/x2uinh
>no ISIS
just rename every shit hole muslim country to ISIS because that's what they all are, fuck the middle east and anyone who cares about it or lives there. Fuck your shitty mod for even indulging muslim "culture".
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>>127622365
the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals now
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>>127622561
this tbhfam
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>>127622573
but when did the switch occur, wasn't it other way around in the past

not an american
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>>127613375
>not only does it require hpmeme

maybe because it's a hpm sub-mod?
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>>127616318
Just suck those autismbux up and hasten the collapse of the welfare state
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>>127622573
>democrats
>socialists
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>>127614657
taking silesia from bohemia is the best thing to do at the start as bohemia can be a massive pain with becoming emperor/blobbing/hating you and declaring when you really don't want them to

as brandenburg you have prussia ideas wether you become prussia or not so taking konigsberg is best done from poland once you've got your OP ideas filled/a h.r.e power base
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>>127615684
You should have just done what I did and have rich parents with connections.
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>>127620284
>again
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>>127622658

yes. democrats were originally small-government and pro-slavery, republicans were big-government abolitionists. the flip flop in policy was a gradual change from after the civil war all the way to ww2.

democrats eventually tried to win over the western poor states being admitted into the union and so became pro-welfare, while the republicans opted to win over business, thus favoring limited intervention.

there was no real reason. it was gradual.
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>>127622982
yes
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>>127620284
they tried making a complex eu/ck style game in 2013 with tonnes of provinces, good choice of combat units and a much better supply system but nobody fucking bought it
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>>127623202

forgot to mention that republican party was literally formed out of the abolitionist movement.

i am speaking of the american civil war, if you're retarded.
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>>127620473
if i'm a nation not benefiting from immigration, e.g in europe is there any point passing the reforms that hurt factory stuff?
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>>127623401

preventing revolts and movements

if that's not a problem, no
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>>127622376
Ok, looks like Al-Rashid will be the name.

Anyways, was WWII Japan fascist? Deciding whether Empire of Japan should be for fascist dictatorships also.
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>>127621557
Of course. I am autistic and really like trains so I build railways in everywhere I can so other people can like trains too.
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>>127623215
>democrats
>socialist
lad, they're definitely left on the social platform, but they could hardly be called economically socialist
A better term would be some sort of combination of the terms "socially progressive" and "economically liberal"
Probably either "progressive liberal/liberal progressive" or "social liberal"
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>>127623613
>was WWII Japan fascist
i guess so, it wasn't a fascist dictatorship though
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So I've played the unite Ireland game in CK2 at the 1066 start. Was mostly uneventful. Gonna start a new game soon, who/when should I play and what should my goals be?
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>>127623613
if ww2 italy is 'fascist' then ww2 japan definitely is
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>>127623613
Military-Corporate Oligarchy? But like, more democratic in that the leaders change, and with a God-Emperor.
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>>127624085
ww2 italy was actually a dictatorship and ruled by the party that originated fascism
japan was militaristic, but it was still a constitutional monarchy of sorts
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>>127624175
>>127623613

They were para-fascists

>>127624085
Italy was a monarchy, not a fascist dictatorship, with a fascist ruling party
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>>127623896
what is the difference? of course they aren't communist
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>>127624083
old gods start as any viking, reform the pagan religion, form empire of scandinavia and become a merchant republic.

It's a bit 'memey' but is very different playthrough that as a 1066 feudal catholic
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it was a monarchy that favored policies fascists tend to favor, but i wouldn't call it fascist

fascists tend to have an actual written creed down, it's more an intellectual revolution/radicalism, japan just had an emperor that saw the necessity for far right-wing ideologies.
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>>127623931
>>127624085
>>127624175
>>127624205
>>127624274
>>127624343
From the answers I'll leave Empire of Japan as just the monarchy tag.
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>>127624276

socialists, like communists, also believe in seizing the means of production, just usually less violently/dont necessarily subscribe to marxism

the democratic party wants to increase the welfare state but retain private ownership of production, and thus are not socialist
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>>127623896
>democrats
>economically liberal
lad...
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>>127624459
Boring.
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>>127624459
less contentious tbf
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>>127624459
Good call
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>>127624482
Both parties are corporatist right.
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>>127624650
because he was a kawaii
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>>127624459

right choice, it would be ahistorical to call them fascists
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>>127624704
willy was kawaii too
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>>127624459
Probably the best thing.
desu it's kind of like England is/was. With a government that does most of the stuff by themselves, with a monarch in charge but that doesn't really do anything, and when the monarch says you should do this people generally do it.
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>>127624459
Also, what should be a fascist Spain name?
Nationalist Spain is just the civil war, but Francoist Spain wouldn;t work if Spain wen't fascist immediatly, as Franco would have been a teen
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>>127624650
macarthur needed a fuckboi
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>>127624650
nigger you literally posted this in /his/ earlier today
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>>127624834
>it's kind of like England is
"no"
hiro had, and used, constitutional power
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>>127624836
Iberian union in spainish
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what're your guys tax codes? (vicky)

i'm currently running 0% for rich, 20% for middle and poor

though the capitalists have already built a all the railroads and made a fuck ton of factories so im thinking of flat taxing 20%
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>>127625016
i have never been to /his/
is the thread still up?
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>>127625168
I usually tax all 3 the same, the amount depending on my money needs.
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>>127625168
0% rich/middle
50% poor
-10% tariffs
Is there any reason not to tax the poor as much as possible?
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>>127617384
get out reddit
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>>127625179
>>>/his/512037
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>>127625556
thanks
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why are anarcho-liberals so ornery?
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Banned from parajew forums, what DLC is compatible with geheimesnacht and what version of ck2? I have all of them pirated and I have version 2.4.5 of ck2, but I keep crashing on startup.
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>>127625301

the compassion for the working man
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>>127625653

the other groups think government can be reformed, they hate you no matter what you do.
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>>127625793
poor people honestly deserve their lot in life.
they deserve worse tbqh.
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>>127625937
ooh, i see clearly now. i guess there are republic type anarchos and dictatorship type anarchos?
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>>127624834
Nah the monarch of england doesn't 'say stuff and then people do it' do you know what a figurehead is?
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I love those little easter eggs in the files
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>>127626067

that's not very christian of you anon

>>127626076
it sounds contradictory, "state anarchism", but essentially yes. dictatorship anarchos just mean that the ruler favors their policies and hands away some of his power voluntarily while still maintaining rulership, vs. republics in which the anarcho state remains only as long as the people favor it.

so like any other ideology basically
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>>127624836
Will poll this tomorrow.

Night /gsg/
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>>127625779
Anyone halp
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>>127626529

"the ruler" in this case being theoretical, the actual mechanics are the same for as any other ideology. ie fascists seizing power in a republic does not automatically destroy the republic anarchos seizing power does not automatically destroy the dictatorship, although they might eventually push for it
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>>127623271
wait what anon
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Good anons of /gsg/, is there a way to establish peace with the Sunni or the Shiites as a crusader kingdom?
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>>127626261
so thats why the games are so big to install
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>>127626529
we have so many social programs today - if you're poor you probably earned your poverty.
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>>127626974
>not knowing that social programs are designed to keep the poor docile and poor
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>faction revolts and we win
>suddenly I get my liege's top title

Neat.
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Are we getting another dev diary this Friday for HoI4?
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>>127612664
How likely is it that Germany will form via the Crown from the Gutter event in HPM? I want to annex the Rhineland as France and I want to limit the infamy cost, which is easier when one country owns the Palatinate.
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r8
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>>127627290
everything is meant to suppress the poor in your mind
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>>127627636
>being this much of an epic memer
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>>127627636
You're running out of time to remake the Empire. Better get on it.
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>>127627636
>no Constantinople
>TUNIS
SHIT
IT'S SHIT
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Where are the "set_country_flag" modifiers in V2 folder?
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Is there another GSG similar to Victoria 2 out there? I've played over 800 hours of Vic 2, CK2, and even EU4. I'd really like to try something else.
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>>127625168
Flat taxes don't work, shitlord. What you need to do is raise taxes on the rich and on corporations.
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>>127628965
DW economy is the only thing that comes close, though it could have separated pops instead of just population
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>>127629105
DW has always seemed so impenetrable though, like with impossible amounts of complexity to me. Do I have to be autistic to have fun with it?
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>>127626914
Sign an accord of peace over their smoldering corpse.
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Why doesn't paradox care about making late game interesting? CK2 and EU both suffer from it.
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>>127629495
Nobody actually plays games that last long enough to get to the lategame. Everyone gets tired of playing after a while and starts a new game.
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>>127629594
I'd say that's because they do nothing to make late game interesting.
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>>127629385
>turks
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>>127629495
It's impossible to make late game balanced when there are so many variables and possibilities that can influence the outcomes of history. Each game is completely unique and different from everything else the developers are able to create when testing the game and it's impossible to balance each unique scenario independently.
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>>127629105
DW and V2's economy are both shit and not the focus of either game. Both games are entirely different and one is a 4x
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>>127629495
late game in ck2 it kinda makes sense since the world is recovering from the boubonic plague

as for eu4 it has no excuse
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>>127625168
I set taxes and tariffs to max and then reduce taxes as my TE increases to hold the effective tax below about 50% which is where I tend to notice tax effects on pop needs.
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Is it possible for me as Venice to form the Latin Empire or am I going to have to bear the title of the Byzantine Emperor if I want to restore the roman empire in CK2?
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>>127629495
Late game EU4 is chaotic as fuck right now.
>indian nations have westernized and are super strong
>colonial nations have all broken free and are starting wars in asia to gain colonies there
>tunis or spain has colonized all of north africa
>france/austria/poland/aragon is blobbing uncontrollably all over and beyond europe
It's disgusting.
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>>127617384
Antartica is supposed to be an archipelago if there's no ice.
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>>127630408
Isn't that just because the weight of the ice is pressing most of the landmass below sea level?
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Here's my shitty ebingroBFrancienblob. I had to changeowner some minor shit to make this work, and clean up the very worst borders around the world. Africa is a result of 3 genocides, the 4th of which would've happened in late 1936. If you're wondering about the US, they had some rebel troubles toward the end, but ended up fascist. All in all, there was a drastic lack of Great Wars in this game, with the only one that I know of happening because of a fluke where i had changeownered the other 3 provinces of Liberia to myself while competing with the UK, because realistically they wouldn't have gotten that land if the only thing they owned bordering it was Sierra Leone. After a few months it ended up triggering a great war for no reason, which happened to not be the kind that stops on day one.

Bug Report:

>Mexico reclaiming their cores misses the Gadsen Purchase (pic related)
>French Language Schooling appears to stop assimilating pops if you've saved and reloaded
>In the Italo-Turkish war, Italy can take states belonging to other people (pic related)
>Sudan rebelled because of rebel fuckery, and when I won the war against them it became clear the the wargoal wasn't "establish protectorate on Sudan" but "take the Sudan region". doesn't make much sense
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>>127625168

100% on everyone early, then down to 50% middle and 0% poor.

>>127625301

Untaxed poor people buy stuff from your factories, stay happy and don't starve.
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What's the best way to clean up borders in CK2?
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>>127633779
cheat
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>>127633918
is there a change owner thing like vicky 2?
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>>127634020

give_title c_place char#
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https://poal.me/41p9cd
https://poal.me/41p9cd
https://poal.me/41p9cd
https://poal.me/41p9cd
https://poal.me/41p9cd

VOTE
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HPM would you ever consider giving the cossack hetmamate some flavour?
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>>127634806
>HPM
>not reactionary
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>East Vs West will never be made
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>>127634806
>no write in option
shit poll
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>>127635513
>banned here for doing so
last time*
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>>127635513
GX killed /luso/
rip.
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How did they do it by theirselves?
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>>127612664
Best GSG to play England/GBR/UK in?
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>>127637159
CK2
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>>127637159
victoria 2
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>>127637159
East vs West
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>>127637159
HOI 4
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>>127637159
EUIV
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>>127637159
Stellaris
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>>127636241
imagine all the refugees from Ionia if it were Greece today
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>>127637159
Hearts of Iron 4 East vs West DLC
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>>127612664
In CK2 I'd like to try to go for a Byzantine playthrough, either in 1066, or 1081. What's the best way to go about rebuilding Rome and preventing 1000 years of Arab tyranny? Who should my first targets be? Anything I need to do ASAP?
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>>127637159
HoI3
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>>127637159
England is completely OP in every gsg game. You really can't lose.

CK2 would be most interesting though I guess.
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Brazil or Uruguay?
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>>127637823
Brazil
t. macaco
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>>127637823
Uruguay with Rio Grande and Santa Catarina
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>>127637159
EU: Rome
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>>127634806
reminder to vote Radical Yugoslavia
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>>127637609
There wouldn't be a lot of people living there by theirselves end of the cold war if it was a Greek territory.
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Has anyone here played a game as a merchant family in a republic in CK2? I've never seen anyone here post it and I'm currently writing some background stuff on the patricians for my D&D game and I was wondering if anyone has pulled some shit with the influence you can gain in land that ain't even yours.
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>playing SuperPower 2
>want to achieve the greatest HDI of the world as Namibia-Botswana
>2047
>HDI is a fucking bar and ends with me, half of Latin America, all of Europe but some of the Balkans, Moldova and the Holy See, Japan, South Korea, USA, Canada, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, South Africa, most of Oceania, Malaysia and fucking Mauritania with the "full bar" (1.0 HDI?)
>population growth is nearly non-existent
>stuck with 3.7m people and the only developed provinces I can take are from ally South Africa
>taking ages to get a good amount of money to invest in domestic production to become self-sufficient
>China declares war at Serbia-Montenegro
>both NATO and Russia side with the Serbs
>WW3 for literally no reason
>China nukes the US and proceeds to attack mainland Russia
>US declares martial law
>Algeria invades mainland China
>look at the Algerian stats and they now appear to be one of the greatest powers of the world
>a fucking billion and a half of surplus monthly while everyone else involved sinks money
>shitload of trade income and unit upkeep, they may have the largest military behind China and India now
>political stability at 99.9%
>corruption at 0.2%
>approval at 99.7%
>political rating at 10
>military rating at 10
>economical rating at 10
>probably the highest HDI in the world with 0% below the poverty line, infrastructrure at 99% and telecom at 98%, as well as 2% income tax overall
>close SuperPower 2
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>>127640125
>you'll never live in such Algeria
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>>127640125
>not playing east vs west
LOL
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>>127625552
What?
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>>127640125
Forgot to add, the war "ended" with a temporary ceasefire signed between Serbia-Montenegro and the PRC. Apparently no one got anything from this clusterfuck, or will.
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>>127639567
>I'm currently writing some background stuff on the patricians

look up Fugger family
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perfect yurop
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>>127641531
No way that's natural.
>that one independent county in Ireland
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>>127620706
if your vassals are not loyal they wont do shit
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HRE religious war

>ALL electors are protestants/reformed
>they would elect the catholic french than amongst eachother
>frogs immediately leave protestant alliance, joins catholic
>milan starts a war with switzerland with conquest CB
>austria joins milan, french join switzerland
>they are both in the catholic league
>bohemia starts the big league war
>france bleeds out completely

i dont think this is tested
why would a catholic country join a league that will ban him from becoming emperor

why are protestant electors backing up catholics

why is there a hidden hostile relation variable between different league members
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what do ?
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>>127641531
too early
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I have a question - are there any grand strategy browser games? - so I could play in the meantime in job.
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>>127644560
Genghis Khan on Kongregate kind of
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>>127612664
While playing as Brazil in v2, is it better to outlaw slavery or grant political rights to the immigrants to get more immigrants?
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>>127640648
Why oh why couldn't paradox release east vs west as the "public beta" they told us about a month before cancelation? If they had, the game would have been in perfect shape right now after two years worth of patches and micro-dlc's and possibly major dlc's. The game could have made back the money they lost and given us an modern day political grand strategy game. Then we wouldn't be stuck with mediocre games that have events like the China declaring war somewhere else outside of the Asian continent, who programs this shit, the AI of most game are so damm broken.
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>>127644560

Aurora, that way people around you will believe that you are working like you should.
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>>127645017
Even the guys working on the mod/cleaned up EvW have admitted the game is fundamentally broken and to have a proper game you'd pretty much have to start from scratch, that's why pdx gave up on it.
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>>127642052
in real life the lague wasn't a straight up catholic vs. protestant affair. There were a lot more rivalries and complexity to it, like the ottomans and french involvement on the protestant side.
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>>127644693
outlaw slavery is top priority
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>>127645469
i know
but it makes no sense in the game

>get elected emperor because of good protestant points
>you switch sides the moment you are elected
>get into a war against another catholic country
>lose
>get absolutely demolished by those who elected you emperor
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>>127645841
are on on the protestant side? is it possibly they just fucking hate you so much?
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>pirate Paradox games for years
>get some bucks from selling free Christmas Steam trading cards, thanks Gaben
>buy HoI3 for $2.49
Am I a good goy yet, Johan?
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>>127642174
learn from the past and conquer the future
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Wait, in Vicky 2 when you're influencing a country you have 100 influence with, other countries lose influence?
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>>127645778
How badly having slavery discourage immigration?
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>>127647219
Not all that much, but it slows down POP promotion so you're going to be left with almost no literacy and administrative efficiency for a long while.
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ded thred
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>>127649430
WHY DID YOU SAVE IT FAGGOT, I WAS ALMOST FREE
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>>127649594
No, we were at page 9 and it's only 1am, the thread would have been up for like half an hour extra without anyone posting.
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>>127649594
There is no freedom from this horror.
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>>127646449
literally did the same thing and with the same game, got hoi3 and dlc for £5.99
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>>127617384
>central queensland
>temperate forest

yeah righto mate
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>>127645891
i am on neither side
hungary, catholic country without joining either side
all that is important to me is austria to let me be, so i watch very closely whats happening

preparing for another push in the balkans/anatolia

the electors are favouring france (till it switched sides)
castile (catholic)
commonwealth (catholic)

winning a vote with -50 is exceptional
electors just fucked eachother up for really long

>brandenburg hates bohemia
>bohemia hates saxony
>mainz hates palatinate

etc etc
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reminder that this is johan's fiancee
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>>127650807
yep thats a man
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Is it true that Johan made stellaris to make us take distant worlds out of the infopic?
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>>127651003
To be honest we should just make another infopic with 2 extra spaces for Stellaris and Aurora.
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>>127629402
Its actually really simple once you play it.
Its like Vic 2 in that from the outside it looks complicated as fuck. But after a couple games to learn shit it makes total sense and is easy as fuck to understand.
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How many of you do this?
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>>127652083

I enjoy comfy productive countries a lot, but I don't understand skipping out on GP status. since you can make your people even more comfy by controlling the markets they have first access.
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>austria blobs the entire southern German and north Italian states, integrates Hungary and blobs the balkans
>they share an entire border with France
>for some reason blueblob and whiteblob are still allied
>their combined force could probably conquer the remainder of europe
>not even my commonwealth, swede, bohemian alliance could stand against them if they declared.

France gets chummy with Austria way too much. Its not even a problem of being friends early game, but that they stay friends throughout the entire game. The only time I've seen them fight since cossacks came out is when allies happen to call them against each other.
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>>127612792
One would assume, with the same issues you'd have otherwise where HOI3 doesnt have some tags that Vic 2 has so you'll have to manually set that shit
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Why is it so much easier to get Brits everywhere in alt-hist where they lose than in the historical start? Poopmod does it too, with Canada.
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>>127652978
Probably because the mods mess with cores so there's nothing to stop assimilation from happening.
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>>127612792
No, HPM uses a different map, and all the converters I know of can only handle converting the default map over as far as I know. Mods which use the vanilla map can be used without problem.
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>>127653124

And Poopmod lets you kill the other immigrant magnets and absorb a ridiculous amount of yuros.

It just seems funny that the worse the defeat, the more they stand to gain, like some kind of unstoppable monster.
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>>127653383
Oh yeah, I forgot that UK had a capital in the new world in Napoopan. Those cultures make much more sense now.
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>>127652353
frenchies always stick their nose into italy and thats austrian sphere of influence as far as i see in my games so they never ally, rivals at worst, waging proxy wars and fighting eachother at best
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>>127653553

That first screenshot is the 7 years war beta. It's not HPM, so you get assimilation even with a London capital, and if you don't force the slavery issue before 1875 there are no CSA cores and the Dixies return to the fold.

Unfortunately, Seppos are determined to stay American.
Really though, the issue is that the Indian states aren't actually all that useful, so swapping the subcontinent for a million Dixies, angry Yanks and some land opportunities is a fair deal.
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Did anyone even think Sengoku was going to be a good game? lmao
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Am I cool yet, /gsg/?
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>>127654724
Reviving dead thread with paintable maps!
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What does GW capitulation do if the GW is made without its GW chain (i.e. just 2v2 GP countries)?
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>>127655328
It's called a base map, pleb.
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>>127654724
It looked nice. But admittedly nobody cared about the setting. All that work for a game and, nothing.
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>playing soviets in darkest hour
>Germany fails to invade Norway
>maybe they're not so tough after all
>months later
>Germany captures Norway in the middle of operation barbarossa
allies pls
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kek
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>>127655373
l-lads?
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Why does paradox insist on making Venice a huge blob island
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>>127656247
Because realism is not a meaningful argument.
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Rate my beta cuck?

>son is King of Italy
>will inherit all of my titles via Elective
EMPRAH SOON
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>>127656308

But paradox sells their games on being historically realistic
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>>127656445
And only redditors buy their games so I don't see a problem there.
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>>127656247
Because they don't want clicking on it to be a hassle.
tfw province size doesn't scale with development
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>>127656610
>t. Johan
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Why does Austria start with military-industrial complex tech school in HPM?
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>>127656610

CK2's city sprawl is pretty neat in clustered small provinces.
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>>127656776
And what should they start with? Avantgarde Intelligentsia?
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>>127657084

Sea Power and the Merchant Marine.
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>>127657301
Why?
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>>127657301
nice meme
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>>127657084
No school?

I'm just wondering why the decision was made to use that tech school, Austria was hardly a militarised, industrially developed nation in 1836
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>>127657301
>>127657497
the habsburg empire was a nation that was only held together by an army
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>>127657497
Then ask HPM that.
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>>127657574
>hapsburg empire
>nation
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>>127657574
It was held together by the hungarians
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>>127657574
That doesn't imply its economy and academia was geared towards making war

Austria avoided all offensive conflict for fear of internal rebellion and tactics against mobs in that time were different than those on battlefield proper

I do not think military industrial complex makes sense in light of Austrian state in that time
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>>127656376
Big campaign continues with a big WTF moment.

Also, it looks like I'm going to have to wait, as the lords of my realm won't support my kingly son for the throne (in favor of my 24dip strong second-eldest, which I'm cool with).
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>>127657890
What
In ww1 they we're definitely running a military industrial conplex
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I know I'm going to sound like a total newfag here, but how the hell do you form the Netherlands as Burgundy in EU IV?

Other than the Low Lands territories you already have a PU with, you need to conquer two OPMs (and Liège). I always start out in a shitty position though: either France allies Austria or France rivals me, which means I will have to deal with both France and Austria at the same time. Considering they're both the biggest therats to Burugndy and Austria (being the emperor) is guaranteed to join any war I declare on imperials, I would like to at least have France on my good side. But even when we aren't rivals, they ally Austria.
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>>127656376
>blobbing in Mega Campaigns

That brings bad luck, bruv. The Egypt lad took Levant and all of Africa and he had to quit

Also, where the fuck his chin?
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>>127658254
ww1 is 80 years after the start date
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>>127658421
So when did they flip?
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ive done it
ive found the worst map

there is literally nothing RIGHT with this game
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>>127658450
When they got over 100 military score and a conservative party in power.
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>>127658462
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>>127658462
CK2 tier borders, fahm
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>>127658450
Wikipedia research tells me that they underwent modernisation under Montecuccoli and Franz Ferdinand around the start of 1900
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>>127658462
APAGE SATANAS
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>>127658462

Morocco is okay.

Jesus fuck.
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>>127658081
>>127658405
He's ethnically Pictish so that might explain it? My heir is far less goofy-looking at least, just needs a haircut.

I'm trying to form HRE and then switching to someone else, or breaking free as independent KleinAquitainiums (like how I 'released' Aragon). My only goal is to spread Nibelung seed far and wide.
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>>127658643
morocco isnt okay because SPAIN STILL OWNS MELLILA
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>>127658625
>In spite of their size and distinction in individual engagements, Habsburg armies of the nineteenth century had mostly known defeat in encounters with European major powers. They were often handicapped by uninspired or timid battlefield leaders. The principal cause of their failure was the that Austria allocated the lowest proportion of its revenue to its military. Various political groups continuously blocked adequate expenditures on the army. For example, the Prussian infantry, using breech-loading rifles in 1866, had four to five times the effective firepower of the Austrian infantry. The constant economizing was also reflected in the poor training of conscripts and in the quality of the notoriously underpaid company-grade officers. Tactics, based on frontal assault with fixed bayonets, were outdated. The quartermaster corps had a reputation for inefficiency and corruption.

Also from Wikipedia

I'm sure proper sources on this can be found, but if Cucks did underinvest in their army like that I don't see a reason for a military-industrial complex tech school
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>>127658462
Tell me how did you form glorious Yugoslavia?
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>>127658838
>sHRxDRt.jpg
Learn to recognize reddit, lad.
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>>127652083
You have to accept the fact,that that pécs is rad as fuck.
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>>127658709
You need to grow a beard to hide that pathetic chin, or fuck fat bitches because you know (0 chins + 2 chins) / 2 = means 1 chin

>then switching to someone else.
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>>127658937
its imgur desu
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>>127658256
P-please respond.
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HPM with RSD, Culture minimod and names mod crashes upon opening decisions screen

Pls halp
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>>127659078
Imgur is where leddit pictures are stored senpai
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>>127659078
Yeah, and pretty much only reddit uses imgur. To be honest I have no idea why they didn't find a new image hosting website yet, imgur has those annoying as fuck problems with connection due to shitty servers.
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>>127659205
>>127659207
what i meant is that i was taken to imgur from a google search rather than me actually going to reddit

http://imgur.com/a/RrSdN
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>>127658462
Go back to reddit faggot.
https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/3zmp30/dismantle_them_dismantle_them_allhow_the_earth/
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>>127659314
Fuck off redditfag. We know you didn't just stumble upon this on google lol, you found it in this thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/3zmp30/dismantle_them_dismantle_them_allhow_the_earth/
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>>127659314
But that imgur album was created only to show those pictures on reddit. And why hte fuck would you google that when you can clearly see that picture was taken from imgur just by looking at the filename?
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>>127659412
>>127659430
i was googling the fucking normandy mod because i'm tired of HPM?
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>>127659495
why the fuck are you still here go back to reddit
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>>127659495
>playing any Vic mod that is not HPM or VisegradMod
Hello Reddit!
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I think I need a custom tooltip for this Earthquake. This isn't even all the things that happen.
>O the morning
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>>127659495
GO BACK 2 REDDIT
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>>127659595
I see you're really fond of your earthquakes, lad. Why earthquakes of all things?
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>>127659571
i wanted to do a thing with china but HPM cucks the shit out of china and, despite that making sense, i just wanted a little variety

i was looking at the archive and saw the normandy mod, i wanted to see its map so i googled it, and saw the leddit imgur album

it looked bad enough for me to post so i did
>>127659635
will it help your autism if i post the newest willy waggle pasta anon
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>>127659713
I started by adding new postcolonial nations just because. Then I decided natural events for flavor. I just thought of what had big effects in history. Earthquakes, volcanoes, famines. I just took the one which there were most of, and started with that. I'm about halfway done with all the earthquakes now. After that it's on to something else.
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>>127658709
My new gambit is to enact Primogeniture in both kingdoms, securing the succession for my eldest, the King of Italy (who just conquered Tunis away from the Abbasids). It's going to tank relations with my vassals, but hopefully not so much that they'll all try and rebel at once. If anything, I hope I die before then just so my higher-martial heir can put the fear of God into them.

>>127659070
I grew a beard. And MCG switched all the time, are you saying I shouldn't?
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>>127659874
GET THE FUCK BACK TO REDDIT LEAVE NOW
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>>127659595
What's the fucking point of this mod lad? not conquering areas that are seismically active?

Also do those territories NEED to be owned by Ming? So you just need to be a nation that never had an earthquake?
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>>127659412
>>127659321

lmao doesn't you recognizing it mean that you were on reddit too?
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>>127659874
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>>127659931
The beard really does help

>are you saying I shouldn't?

Well, that was kind of like MCG's shit, we never had a 1 nation grand/mega campaign.

But you are likely too gross for it now
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>>127659874
Okay, maybe I was little too harsh on you, lad. But still, Normandy Mod is just an alt history mod, all it's mechanics are the same as in vanilla, you can't really compare it to HPM or even NNM. Oh and speaking of NNM you should try that if you want to play China.
>>127659928
Sounds fun, would use it if I played EU4.
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>>127658081

It actually happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaver_Synod
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This is the piece of shit we used to call one of us LOL
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>>127660432
look at this faggot, whoring himself to reddit.
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I know you can shift + click to expand all factories near their employee limit but is there a way to expand all factories without having to indivudually click?
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>>127659980
They're province bound, so if you were to conquer China as Korea in time for the earthquake, you'd still get it. And sometimes, reconstruction can come from an earthquake, or temporarily beneficial effects (1663 Charlevoix Earthquake, increased tolerance of true faith).
They're also not guaranteed to hit. They have a chance to happen in a roughly 2 year timeframe with a MTTH of 20 months. (So slightly more likely to happen than not, but still).

And it's also to balance out some "dynamic" development I have planned out, where random provinces will just "develop" a bit every now and then.
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>>127623271
You mean the absolute shit that was March of the Eagles? Because it was one of the most shitty game they ever released.
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>>127660119
i know it's an alt history mod, i just wanted a screenshot of it because there isn't on the archive
>>127660074
>>127659635
but anon, check out the le funny collage of our epic funny /gees gee/ memes desu!!! xDDD
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Back on track.
Money is plenty,and our army is big.
Were the ottomans made to be Overpowered?
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>>127660568
someone tell him the hoi3 wiki is fucking shit
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>>127660568
holy shit meneth's really gone down the deep end since he abandoned us for reddit
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>>127660701
Nah it's a good game you bender
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>>127660786
I'm hoping that the ottards will lose a few provinces
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>>127660832
>we used to trust this faggot
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>>127660786
>>127660926
what version of eu3 is this?
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>>127660964
he used to be one of us now hes a pinko piece of shit
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>>127660432
>>127660568
>>127660832
>>127660964
>>127661104
holy fuck what happened to this faggot
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>>127659931
Finally got High CA passed in Middle Francia, but can't get Primo yet because EVERYONE has to like me first. Might just let the kingdom go to my next-eldest and take it from him later. Alternately, I could just give it to the Nibelung Duke of Burgundy. That way it's still in the family (but won't be part of the HRE when I form it).
>What do?
http://poal.me/qc8o09
http://poal.me/qc8o09
http://poal.me/qc8o09

>>127660271
Sick.

>>127660082
What if I got less gross? My thought again was 1) form HRE as Nibelung Duke of Toulouse (original goal); 2) play as different Nibelung somewhere else; 3) repeat until Nibelungs are everywhere.
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>>127659103
You don't want to form the Netherlands as Burgundy, you lose all your French lands to France.
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>>127660968
In Nomine
>>127660926
Ottomans lost controll of the situation.
Hungary went to war.
Possibly to retake Banat.
My encouragement for revolts have worked
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>>127661104
meneth went full sjw
he once posted a screenshot of his irc client on irc
and he was hanging out on /r/gamerghazi irc iirc
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>>127661358
I have almost managed to get religious unity.
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Why is there no option for primogeniture in HIP anymore?
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>>127661584
No because that would be sexist and Memeth does not stand for that :^)
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>>127661338
Gonna leave this up for a little while. If people want me to destroy it, I will (and just grant those de jure dukes independence). I can still form HRE with only one kingdom, so I don't really need to hold onto it.

>>127661401
This. He realized the way to get the most internet points is to be a loud and proud sjw.
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>>127661338
>repeat until Nibelungs are everywhere.
I'm sure that will make a disgusting alliance chain in EU4

>form HRE as Nibelung Duke of Toulouse (original goal)
Does the world need a >Holy >Roman Empire?
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>>127661584
I meant ultimogeniture.
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>>127660432
>>127660568

He might have a point, if niggers and camelfuckers and spics weren't even worse in the countries where they're the majority. These people seem incapable of even considering the possibility that the disparities between whites and problematic nonwhites is due to deficiencies in the nonwhites.
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>>127661338
>What if I got less gross?

In the CK2 era no one gave a shit about pretty borders and blobbing wasn't a faux pas, so don't let these autists in this thread pick on you.
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>>127662032
No lad, this guy is making a mega campaign.

Going gross just ruins rest of the games
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>>127659154
Update your game or using the corresponding patch/version
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>>127661514
Got lucky and could annex corfu.
I'm still at war with ferrara and their allies,but they don't have the manpower cause serious damages.
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>>127612664
there should be more colored pics in the newspaper and events in hpm it makes it look pretty :3
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>starting a new game
>removed old HPM and installed new one
>purged cache
>let's go
>select a unit
>game crashes
Why? The only other mod I have is a square frame mod.
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Guys, after seeing that autistic Hungary guy, I want to do a super prosperous state in CK2.

And to do this, I'm never going to upgrade my title above count and due to this, will own every single province I rule. Any good places to form this heaven? Also, bonus points if the county has a funny name or a good flag
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>>127641531
>Norge
I fucking love it. Too bad playing Norway in Vicky 2 is a fucking drag.
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>>127663178
To what are you referring? Also you'll have a hard time making progress if you're not at least a duke (to get tech, etc)
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>>127663178
don't do it
it's not worth it

also constantinople/rome just to make it EVEN HARDER
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so I work at a major casino as IT. just learned that the surveillance team watches me game through the cameras and reports me to my boss whenever I play a game they don't like or whenever they're in a shit mood.

7 reports so far. I don't think they like cs:go or flash games. they don't seem to mind gs's though because I've been playing for months
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>>127663291
he is talking about this:>>127652083
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>>127650807
>Those calves
She probably does more exercise daily than that cuck Johan has done in his life.
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>>127663291
Oh yeah, I will have to become a duke since to make money, you HAVE TO be a merchant republic, I realized I can't play as count level republic.

Well, what's a good titular duchy title? I'm doing vanilla because converter issues

Wish I could do CK2+ because the world needs gross-Dan Mariniums
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>>127663390
>7 reports
Are you the owner's kid or something? Why the fuck have you not been fired?

Also, I highly recommend being the owner's kid. I'm at work -right now- and playing gs. Gotta be discreet of course but I do it every day when I'm not actively doing something.
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>>127661823
pls respond
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>>127650807
would raise family with/10
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>>127662343
Revolutionary France in 1443
I wonder what could be behind this.
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>>127664804
You playing crusty version of a crusty game?
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>>127664067
I'm closely related, but not kid
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>>127663390
>casino
t. stiff log
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>>127661338
>>127661668
I have a three-way tie from the poll, so I'm resolving to wait until I can enact Primogeniture in Middle Francia and then hand it off to the Nibelung Duke of Burgundy, whom I will support and make sure his line stays in power.

>>127661687
Yeah, we'll see about that when we get there.
>questioning Imperial authority
>being this big of a heretic scum
PURGE
I'm going to rename it the Imperium for shits n gigs.

>>127662032
>>127662196
Not a sensitive cuck, just open to audience feedback (like MCG was, and I was a big fan of his). I will stay Nibelung, but not necessarily always in the same place. For instance, part of me wants to take over Aragon and conquer Iberia, or, alternately, put a Nibelung on the Asturian throne and go from there.

My plan wasn't to get groß as fuck, just to spread Nibelung seed as far and wide as possible.

Fucking french fry captcha.
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>>127663390
>charts and maps are games
they think youre working
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This is a map of all the current countries that are in AHMod
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>>127665426
i dont even wanna know what meme that is lad
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>>127665426
Needs more memes lad
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Let's try to attempt a comfy CK2 game, nothing but building trade ports and fucking bitches.

And warring for trade ports.

I'm going to make a gem of a nation sitting in the Baltic shores
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>>127665581
>>127665629
its a historicaly accurate unHPM without any memes
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>>127664804
I have allied Austria.
I can't possibly take on the Ottomans,even with them.
I need divine intervention.
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>>127665842
>without any memes
Good one, lad, I actually laughed.
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>>127665842
>that
>not a meme
you need to learn more about memes [email protected] s.m.h

t. meme expert
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>>127665935>>127665941
what wrong with it?
All these nations existed during history and their unions on paper, as a idea.
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>>127665778
Gotta get married, especially with a woman good with the stewardship
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>>127665906
The K.u.K gang is together.
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>>127666068
>1836
>All those meme alt his nations
LOL its probably the biggest meme i`ve seen on this general and i`ve been here 6 years now
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>>127666068
You forgot the anglo-french union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-British_Union
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>>127665240
Got a big ol' border mess in Middle Francia, attempting to sort who owns what. Have not honestly paid any attention to this part of my realm thus far.
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>>127666165
this starting map is vanilla
all the nations need to be released/formed
this is just a screenshot i made with changeownering
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>>127666068
>Romania-Hungary
>Poland-Hungary
>Teutonic Empire
Just because some nutjob thought of them a few hundred years ago doesn't mean they are not memes. If I write a book about an Australo-Hungarian Empire would that mean that country would stop being a complete joke?
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>>127666085
Time to quickly kick out pagans
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>>127666336
>If I write a book about an Australo-Hungarian Empire would that mean that country would stop being a complete joke?
you missed my point, but i get you
>>127666191
Angevin Empire maybe
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>>127665294
>casino
>working with maps

you what?
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>>127666484
and the pagan vassals
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>>127666487
Well, maybe I have indeed missed it, but that doesn't change the fact that you're trying to apply earlier unions and empires to the age of nationalism.
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>>127666487
Don't call it that, it sounds terrible. Anglo-France or Anglofranco Union or something. Why not a United States of Europe, only formable if the USA exists?
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>>127666654
Time to take advantage of our ships and found the Merchant Republic of the Victual Brothers
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>>127666863
Pagans getting mad
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>>127665426
AHMod adds the following nations that can be released/formed:
Germania
Slavia
Celtic Congress
Theodoro
Szekelyland
Gotland
Poland-Hungary
Romania-Hungary
Burgenland
Poglizza
Venice-Lombardy
Naples
Bayreuth
Breisgau
Cologne
Liege
Lingen
Mainz
Muenster
Munster
Pfalz
Salzburg
Tier
Wurzburg
Cleve
Juelich
Osnabruck
Ostfriesland
Padenborn
Ulm
Genoa
>>127666706
>earlier unions and empires to the age of nationalism
these are unions never formaly existed on the world map, only as a idea, as a pan-nationalist movement.
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>>127667054
nice meme faggot now kill yourself
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>>127667054
It'd need a US of Europe.

also pls fix typo
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>>127667054
Do I really have to repeat the fact that pan-nationalism is a complete joke? And you do have pre-national states existing: Byzantium (which was taken out in HPM) and Theodoro.
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>>127666163
I must unite the greek people under one flag
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>>127667054
>romania-hungary
I don't accpet this
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>>127667195
its a old screenshot
>>127667262
>Do I really have to repeat the fact that pan-nationalism is a complete joke?
So, old unions are jokes, new unions are also a joke?
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>>127667441
CRETE IS ITALIAN HOMO HELEN BARBAR TURKS LEAVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>127667541
still tho

us of europe
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>>127667541
>So, old unions are jokes, new unions are also a joke?
Exactly, nation states are the way to go, every empire falls.
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>>127667441
What should I do with Armenia?
A:Blob into them
B:Vassalize them
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>>127667656
but panationalism is what united germany, Italy and the US.
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>>127667748
Vassalize, don't blob
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>>127667748
Depends, are you going to recreate the Byzantine Empire? If so, annex, if not then vassalize
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>>127667656
Pan-nationalism is a form of nationalism distinguished by being associated with a claimed national territory which does not correspond to existing political boundaries. It often defines the nation as a ‘‘cluster’’ of closely related ethnic or cultural groups. It shares the general nationalist premises that the nation is a fundamental unit of human social life, and that it is the only legitimate basis for the state.
Thats basicly what you said.
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>>127668001
Non autist version: Pan nationalism is when east ukraine or belarus wants to be part of russia.
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>>127667748
>>127667947
>>127667975
I'd really want to see if you'd create Greece, before uniting all other small states around you in an union of vassals to fight against mudslimes.
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>>127668123
>>127667748
Too bad there is no greek unification in EUIII.
But there is a greece tag for some reason.
It has cores on Kaffa,
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>>127660832
Does he even understand what bigotry means?
It looks like he is the bigot
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>>127667054
it also changes the loading screens, adds decision based assimilation to europe, similar to HPMs genocide, and every nation has decisions/events
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>>127667054
if you don't wanna become the next rob you might as well leave
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>>127668792
why would i become the next rob?
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>>127668841
Your mod is a meme
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>mememods made by braindead retards
>mega reddit campaign shitter #17
>another shitty alt history mod #1000000
>radical 'I'm so irrelevant please pay attention to me :'(' memebloc v2.0
>I would go gay for HPM xDD fanboys from reddit
Welcome to neo/gsg/, ladies and gentlemen
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Whatever happened to Vickymod?
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>>127667441
'the greek people'

lad isn't athens a frankish crusader state?
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>>127666293
And so it continues.
>son dies
>Italy goes to his daughter
>she dies
>goes to her infant, non-Nibelung son
Stupid heir didn't even have the sense to matrilineally marry his daughter? Fuck.
Good thing is my heir, now guaranteed to inherit both kingdoms (based Primo), has a claim, albeit weak, to Italy so I can push that hopefully and form HRE.

Setting up more dynastic duchies, but going to try and focus on absorbing the French kingdoms to my north first, after I form HRE.
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>>127668925
This is not neo, /gsg/ has always been shit, only memeing retards like me stick around this trainwreck that was one since the begining
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>>127668792
whatever happened to rob?
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>>127667054
>>127665426
thats unHPM
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>>127669220
got mad when he realized people didn't like his mod and rage quitted /gsg/
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>>127665426
>CELTIC SICILY
>NO GALICIAN EMPIRE OF ISLAM-CLEANSING

psh, nuthin personnell, kid
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>>127669049
A guy called rob carried on working on it but everyone hates him/it and called it 'robmod' now
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>>127669381
>CELTIC SICILY
thats sicilian sicily
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>>127669220
Paradox hired him, now he's the fluffer for wiz.
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>>127668417
Gained core on Larissa.
In another 10 years,makedonia will be cored too.
I can also finaly get rid of this debt
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>>127665426
had a good laugh when i saw fucking 'poland-hungary' lmao
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>>127669395
wat
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>>127669938
its also in Liangmod
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary%E2%80%93Poland_relations
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>>127669145
Taking a break to get some work done.
Goals:
>secure succession via primogeniture ( X )
>inherit or otherwise gain Italy ( )
>form HRE ( )
>spread Nibelung seed far and wide ( X ) (in progress)

>>127668925
>>mega reddit campaign shitter #17
>implying reddit
Ouch bro. That cuts deep.

>>127668417
>>127669880
In Nomine is proof that Paradox used to understand games. DW was almost completely unplayable for several years, vanilla is still absolute garbage. EU4 isn't much better---will say that it is objectively better than EU3 DW 5.2, but not by much.

Based Athens bro, you're doing God's work. Keep it up.
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>>127667005
Hold up how did you play as a mercenary group
Even with one landed if i switch to one i get a game over
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Help I can't deploy ships to the Mediterranean. I took over all these ports and I can't make deployments to them.
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>>127670032
Downgrade the game, fahm
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>>127669938
Then prepare to laugh even more because that green thing south of it is Hungary-Romania.
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>>127667054
When it will be released? It actually seems polished.
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>>127669991
the guy who currently updates vickymod is called rob, since he took over HPM became the dominant mod and rob isn't too popular so vickymod is now disparagingly called robmod
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>>127670089
How do i do that?
I dont have a steam version
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>>127670146
I made it, and its already released
in a few threads ago i joked about killing this mod like the originalvicky mod and a new rob was born today
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>>127670084
>cropping
It's disconnected from your capital you cucklord.
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>>127670084
you can only deploy troops with a land connection to your capital and you can only deploy ships to a port with a land connection to your capital.
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>>127670095
haha fucking hell now that is a quality meme.
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>>127670297
So how can I get units to North Africa to help Italy? I have transport planes but can't deploy units to them.
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>>127670146
https://mega.nz/#!QFJkkKQJ!hzjDHt9GQfiOxmFb2iHGDq4D0T_oLE3XXsOXTqrunLc
here is the latest version, you need the latest version of HPM but not the beta patch for V2
just tick both HPM and unHPM when running the game
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>>127670483
deploy the ships to your capital or a port with a land connection to your capital, then you can rebase them to the other ports

I think transport planes can only transport a stack of pure paratroopers.
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>>127670287
>>127670586
I'm the Slavia Austistic Flagpack guy, unHPM.

Nice ruse though.
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>>127658462
Ireland is united
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>>127670729
The Mediterranean is blocked off by the British at Gibraltar and Suez
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D-did I fuck up?
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>>127670870
That's a bad thing, lad.
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>>127670991
build some paratroopers, they are pretty useful and using them is the best way to take gibraltar. Gibraltar is a victory condition and you need to occupy it for nationalist spain and portugal to join the axis so it's pretty useful

In vanilla UK normally only puts one low tech garrison brigade in gibraltar anyway so you won't need many
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>>127671084
The fuck did you do son.
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>>127671084
how is it possible to fuck up so bad in 6 years as one of the 7 major countries and starting as the HREmperor
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>>127671084
>barely 6 years into game
I don't play MEME4 but yes you did.
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SU mod when...
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Whoever posts the biggest meme will get the HOI4 beta leaked to their email.
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>>127671084
Jesus, I also noticed that France is your ally. This has to be on purpose... Right?
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>>127671481
my life
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>>127671481
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>>127671529
what? How did you even do this?
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>>127671481
did you play hoi3/DH/hoi2 before the beta and is the game as bad as everyone thinks it will be?
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Hey /gsg/. looked through the pastebin but couldn't find anything on the topic. Can CKII's DLC be unlocked in some way on the steam version, or am I stuck buying all gorillion of them?
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Carthage must be destroyed.
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>>127671706
I played DH and HOI3, i can confirm that HOI4 is basically EU4 railroaded with a WWII skin.
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