Kissing in the Rain Edition
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Life is Strange is an episodic interactive drama from DONTNOD Entertainment. Set in the Pacific Northwest in the town of Arcadia Bay, the player follows the story of Maxine Caulfield and her seemingly newfound ability to turn back time. At the prestigious Blackwell Academy, Max must prepare with Chloe Price for the incoming storm of returning to her hometown after five years. Available on Steam, PSN and Xbox Live.
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>As Max and Chloe are leaving the ruins of Arcadia Bay behind, there's one more tragic story unfolding
>Alice and Lisa stuck in Max's room, Alice hasn't eaten anything in days, the dorms are destroyed and no one comes looking for them
>"No one's gonna come save us, this is the end, we'll starve to death..."
>Alice...you can survive this and go back to your owner. All you have to do is... all you have to do is eat me."
>"What? No, fuck that. Lisa, you're my number one priority, I'm not eating you!"
>"Alice, think about it... how many times this week did you try to nibble my leafs? I'm a plant, Alice, you're a bunny, maybe it's time I accept my destiny... OUR destiny."
>"Lisa, I can't make this choice!"
>"No Alice, you're the only one who can"
>eat your own foot
One of the better memes yet.
>ywn drink rain off Chloe's lips
>rescue team kicks in the door to Max's dorm room
>"No one here."
>"Wait, look, it's a bunny! Poor thing, it's half starved to death. Looks like it's alive though."
>Spanish Sahara starts playing
>close-up shot of Alice being carried out by a firefighter. What little remained of Lisa is seen as reflection in her big, dark eyes
Forget the horror here...
>Max hooking up with Victoria
Is that after the ending if she lets Chloe die?
Makes sense. She becomes just like Chloe did after losing William. Get involved with people that aren't good for her and start looking for different vices to try to escape. Alcohol, sex, drugs, all that stuff.
Except there'd be no helping Max because she can't tell anyone what was wrong.
Max, K8, and everyone getting
gang raped by guys, Jefferson 'n shit.
As am I. None of the major characters benefit from the Sacrifice Chloe ending.
I'd argue that even in the Sacrifice Arcadia Bay ending that certain characters are better off. Even if they die.
Aside from maybe Nathan and perhaps Joyce and David (considering the alternative) I can't say I agree. Assuming some or all of the students are dead then that's a pretty horrible loss considering they had full lives ahead of them. I don't think Frank's better off dead since he wouldn't have heard about Rachel's death from Max and would have received no closure.
I really like this person's renders (Saved a bunch), but they're kind of small and I don't think there's larger ones.
What happened to that anon that was going to write a Maximum Victory short fic?
>They won't even want to be hanging around each other
They were fucking in AU. Anything is possible with imagination. :)
Victoria is secretly a closeted geek and sub who is grossly insecure and craves validation. Prolonged exposure to Max will reduce her to a gooey, dependent mess.
Got consumed by the /lisg/ curse.
>she approaches Vicky for that.
Victoria is best girl.
Not really, she probably goes around deliberately acting even more arrogant in public, either to demonstrate her 'worth', or just in hopes that Max will discipline her behind closed doors for her transgression.
There's too much Victoria ITT so far. We need more Chloe. And Max.
If Max is with Chloe or Victoria does that mean that Kate will be all on her lonesome?
I don't think Kate would be down for being with a girl. She'd find a nice boy with similar beliefs.
I wonder how she would take the news about Max & Chloe though, I'm sure she'd accept them eventually but she may have some issue initially. And not because it's same sex, more because she doesn't know Chloe aside from whatever she's heard about her. Which probably isn't good things.
>Victoria .. No way!
>Good boy from Church
So Kate will never have a happy ending?
Victoria and Nathan were probably good together. Too bad that unless Max really changed things, to save everyone, that it will never happen.
She seemed to be the only person to actually care about Nathan and the only person Nathan wanted to protect.
It would be next to impossible to make a branching story. The two endings are so radically different from each other. One has Max continuing her studies at Blackwell without Chloe and the other has the two of them leave a destroyed Arcadia Bay with everyone else presumed dead. If the budget issues wouldn't let them tweak the endings then there's no way they'll have the resources to build two completely different stories per episode in the next season.
I agree with the brother/ sister dynamic they have. But they're not so if they wanted to go on dates and stuff like that there's nothing wrong with it. I really don't see who else they would go for. There's a lot more to a relationship than just sex, it's about caring and being there for someone.
They will never make two stories. No way. If they do, it will only branch out for one episode, then somehow it will all pierce together as one, cohesive plotline.
They will most likely just force one ending to be canon IMO.
>They will most likely just force one ending to be canon
I can't believe I'd ever actually want a new cast and story but I'd take that over something that canonises either of those godawful endings.
This anon >>127357637 put together a flowchart of music similar to LiS. It's fucking art.
short post edition, I am still going to make my own chart, but good job anon.
Thanks to photoshopgril for putting together the background image and the second chart,
polaroidgril for assembling the album covers/artist names/etc. onto the background image,
Dr. Zaius for helping in general.
I have a torrent of all the games music, Morali's OST, the Vortex Club party, all the licensed songs (most in lossless format), and all the albums they were taken from.
Alternative download on MEGA, if you get it from here, please add the files to your torrent folder to facilitate easier downloads for others.
Spotify playlist of the licensed music here:
I've already found something that helps me with that.
>Thanx dontnod, your inept attempt at writing tragedy has turned me into a cocktail drinking alchoholic.
Maybe as a side character but honestly I actually would like to try a new playable character. Preferably a more competent protagonist. The problem with Max is she might just be her own worst enemy since she almost never uses her common fucking sense. Her enabling of Chloe's stupidity nearly ended in both of their deaths and she wound up getting stuck in the Dark Room again because she didn't think things through when she focused into her contest photo.
It gets a little tiresome though. The final quarter of Episode 4 and the first two thirds of Episode 5 are completely pointless. Max and Chloe had won the moment they stepped foot into the Dark Room. The only logical move Jefferson could do next was flee the town and assume a new identity before the police figured out that Nathan was working for someone else. Instead he makes an idiotic gambit that relies on the two of them behaving in the most stupid manner imaginable....which they proceed to do. It's just annoying having the villain get such a miraculous reversal of fortunes due to the protagonists being stupid. It feels like an artificial way to drag out the conflict.
Can you let William die in Ep3?
I was getting so ready for some lesbo action and then the ending happens...dont know what to thing desu
>No option to just email the stuff on the dark room's computer to the FBI website's tip centre, along with the address of the rape bunker and maybe a few photos of it's interior and access code.
>No option to try to lie, cheat, beg, and otherwise convince the people of arcadia bay to just leave for the day on friday.
This what the retarded spirits get for entrusting future powers to a fucking art student.
>the only person Nathan wanted to protect
...was Max, apparently. Jefferson had plans regarding Victoria and Nathan didn't warn her when he did Max.
I think Nathan and Victoria had a close relationship, sibling-like if you will, but with a lot of unsaid stuff. The only reason I can see why Nathan wouldn't warn her if he truly cared about her is that he was afraid of revealing that side of him to her.
I find it more likely he was "in love", or rather "obsessed" in some way, with Rachel and later possibly started to develop similar feelings for Max too. But didn't want to repeat what happened with Rachel and so he warned Max. Maybe his hostility always was to scare her off and suppress his own feelings.
Victoria I can't see ever having had a romantical relationship. She probably had her fair share of "fun" with boys from parties and get-togethers but ultimately never felt satisfied with how they treated her. Maybe she had hoped to have more with Nathan than what they did have, but always also knew that it wasn't really going to work that way with them. Too much distance.
Like Nathan I can see her having developed feelings for Rachel and later Max. Unlike the rich or athlete type boys she used to get with, these girls not only have some facet to them that Victoria feels attracted to (Rachel as a photo subject, Max as a photographer), but they also don't treat her like a girl in the sense that guys especially with the background of her social clique sometimes do. On top of that they just caused strong feelings in her to begin with with the attention they got from Jefferson (and possibly Nathan) and with how they never seemed to want to take her up on any challenge, instead being kind. So they were on her mind and had an effect on her, she found herself increasingly more interested and eventually drawn to them and she hated that. Being a "lesbo" is "improper" and how could she possibly like these girls that she "hated"? And so there's hostility there too.
Those have long since stopped being spoilers, no need for the tags. And no, you have no choice but to save William.
You shouldn't really be in this thread if you've only just finished Episode 3. Be wary about Episode 5 though. It's by far the worst episode in the game and one of the biggest disappointments of the year.
So Fare Gone updated. With two new chapters.
They were just hoping she'd have the intelligence to go into the alt timeline, find a polariod on the day of her crash and ring Chloe to prevent it.
Then she'd have GPA 4.0 Alt Chloe and GPA 3.9 submissive alt Victoria to advise her. The Prescotts and Jefferson would be screwed.
To be fair Chloe is a bit quick to temper. She pretty much flared up at Nathan's SMS. And they pretty much didn't really expect Nathan to be a clever scheming guy. And they certainly did not suspect Mr art teacher.
If Jefferson knew Chloe from her time at Blackwell, or ever read her file after seeing her with Max, then it's somewhat reasonable to assume he would know how to play her.
He would know she was impulsive and had one hell of a temper. So if he had cameras in the Dark Room, and saw that Max and Chloe were going to the Junkyard, and then learned that they found Rachel- Jefferson would know what to do.
Eliminate Nathan to cover his own tracks, and use Nathan's phone to set bait that Max (And especially Chloe) would take.
Even if they didn't know about Jefferson the text was still a painfully obvious trap. For all they knew Nathan could have had a group of henchmen ready to ambush them. I suppose they could have been concerned about losing Rachel's body as evidence. But that would never have been a problem if they'd simply snatched Rachel and Kate's folders as well as Victoria's empty one. It's just amazing how many logical steps they overlooked after they spent the entire investigation snatching important pieces of evidence from Nathan, Wells and Frank.
Well you have a 19 year old girl who hates the world and is prone to temper outrage, and a 18 year old country pumpkin who cuck a boy for science homework help. Add on to the tension in the dark room, they probably weren't thinking straight
The text really isn't out of character for Nathan. He sent threatening texts in the past and even broke into Max's room to paint on her wall.
The one thing that should have stood out was that the grammar was different than Nathan's usual messages. But they never thought about that and were just concerned with getting to the Junkyard before something happened to Rachel's body.
And even if they called the Police, they may have thought that the Police were corrupted by the Prescotts and that they would get there after Nathan had already removed the body and any evidence.
While they should have absolutely taken a binder from the Dark Room. Their minds were not clear in that moment and Chloe was holding onto some shred of hope that she would find Rachel alive and Max just followed along because she was equally shocked and not thinking. Then she was concerned with staying near Chloe to make sure she didn't turn the Party into a bloodbath.
They were in a bit of a rush to get to the junkyard but it would have taken no effort whatsoever to take some evidence for the Dark Room. It's not like it was hidden in a locker or behind a password. The folders were on the table directly in front of them. Making matters even more annoying is that you briefly take control of Max again and can hang around for as long as you want in the Dark Room, examining every object. It's literally the plot forcing them to be as incompetent as humanly possible to force a situation where Jefferson almost wins.
Go for it. The more stories means the more stuff we have to read/ discuss. And a bunch of writers have been writing in English, even if it's not their native language.
Just share it here if and when you write it.
Maybe road trip back to Seattle then? To go sponge of Max's parents for a while. And become mega famous for taking that photo you just know Max took of the town being killed by the tornado.
Basically something like this. >>127409741
Yeah basically touch on their journey back to Seattle. I'm not in the states though, so I don't know how far do you have to drive to get from Oregon to Seattle.
They would probably stay in motels throughout the journey, maybe do something to earn some side cash..
Please include some hot gay lesbian action, it's what I desperately need now. Also you can make them like prostitute themselves for pennies on their trip and end up getting raped, drugged and etc in the process. That would be so hot.
My thoughts about Max and Chloe are this:
They leave a day after the storm.
That night they spend in the building next to the lighthouse. Inside all Max can do is cry and shake, Chloe just holds her close and tries to comfort her by talking about when they were kids.
In the morning they try to drive into Arcadia Bay but everything is blocked off that way by debris. Max and Chloe continue on foot and see the devastation. There is destroyed buildings, fires, and bodies in the street (None of which they recognize) Max is horrified but Chloe steels herself and pulls Max towards Two Whales. They both have to know for better or worse what happened, but when they get there they find nothing. Nobody is inside.
They sit outside on the steps, when Chloe hears someone call her name, she looks up and it's David. He runs over and hugs her, which Chloe surprisingly returns briefly before asking where her mother is.
David leads them to his car and they drive off towards a familiar barn. David explains that after helping the Police bust Jefferson, he saw the storm forming on the coast and rushed to the Diner. They descend the stairs and find Joyce, Frank, Pompidou, and Warren safe (But all of them are slightly injured).
Chloe is ecstatic to see her mom, and even glad to see Frank and Warren. They spend the night in the bunker using the supplies.
Chloe decides that she's going to take Max back to Seattle to see her parents. They, along with David and Joyce, get in David's car and they begin driving towards Arcadia Bay. As they drive by Blackwell, Max watches out the window, David pulls over. He gets out and says he has a job, and says goodbye to the three women in the car. Joyce continues driving and they eventually get to Chloe's truck.
By now the fires have been extinguished and the roads cleared mostly, so Max and Chloe say bye to Joyce and get in the truck to drive off.
This is where you get to the scene you see in the ending.
Come to think about it the Chloe ending scene is stupid as fuck.
Don't they at least take some time to walk on foot to anaylse the destruction? Do they simply assume everyone just died.
>there's no story where Max and Chloe rescue Victoria and Kate from the rubble of Arcadia Bay, turn them into sex slaves and go around pimping them out to everyone, while on a road trip back to seattle which accidentally went entirely the wrong way and ended up in las vegas
It would be more fun to have them be sold into sex slavery. They are separated and then months or years later they meet again after lots of torture and abuse and then >>127411413 can have his happy ending.
That's why that ending is so damn infuriating. It gives no closure. It's stupid and even with the budget issues Dontnod claims they should have been able to think of something. But instead they said to use your imagination.
Which is why my brain filled in the gaps.
I mean he wants to write a story without any characters having sex or forcing themselves on one another, how do you make that interesting? Are Max and Chloe just gonna be friends? That is something a beta would only write.
>Platonic love that can be mistaken for romance?
Do you jack off to cuckold porn, im serious?
>Platonic love that can be mistaken for romance?
Highly underrated topic.
>Where's the tragedy
What happened to Rachel, Kate, and Nathan.
Chloe's life after her father died and Max left.
Max seeing her friends dying repeatedly.
Max having to see what happens if she saves William and then having to knowingly send him to his death to undo the changes.
Max's idol turning out to be a psycho.
Chloe digging up the girl she loved in the same junkyard the two of them hungout at.
This game has plenty of tragedy without the bullshit storm. But since they just had to the tornado, they could have at least been competent with it.
Yup. It should just had Michel Koch after the credits saying "Well, that's it for Max's story. Chloe's dead... or alive depending on your choice. We hope you enjoyed our game. Oh, and make sure to keep an eye out for any future projects we have on the way. Goodnight everybody." *waves*
>I find it more likely he was "in love", or rather "obsessed" in some way, with Rachel and later possibly started to develop similar feelings for Max too. But didn't want to repeat what happened with Rachel and so he warned Max. Maybe his hostility always was to scare her off and suppress his own feelings.
I definitely think he became obsessed with Max and was trying in his own probably unconscious way to scare her away from danger, and getting pissed off that she wouldn't take the hint and kept coming after him, but I can't see him having feelings for her. They don't really interact on any level where something like that could develop, and Nathan has so much other shit on his mind. I can see him easily becoming infatuated with someone like Rachel, because she makes it so easy, but Max is just a dopey nobody. Even if a lot of people secretly respect her and find her cute, she's not the sort of person that commands such infatuation that it'd break through to someone in Nathan's position. If he had any feelings for her other than anger and fear, I think it would have just been projecting what he remembered of Rachel, rather than perceiving who Max really was and being attracted to that.
I feel like the reason he warned her is because he felt guilt for what he had done, and since he perceived her as having it out for him, he was resigned to his guilt and vindicating her suspicion. She already knew the score, and he was just finally giving in to her pursuit of answers.
With Vic, he'd be dumping information on her that she didn't ask for and wouldn't know what to do with, and as you said revealing a really ugly side of himself to the one person who still gives a shit. Even if it would save her, it'd hurt her, and he can't face that even if it's necessary.
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe
After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!) (thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't doe,or butterfly,bluejay or even shit.
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's Chloe just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it.
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget
Either endings (conslucion of the story) stupid as fuck.
But they gave us those endings already, so we can't do anything about it. Even they couldn't make an effort to whole episode; either endings for example in Bay ending
just like 'tragic' spanish soap opera endingsthey completely used old locations.Was it emotional? *Max smiles with death eyes* sorry but no.
In Bae ending ; buildings are still up, roads are well even after 'magic' tornado hit the town, we can't say that 'holy shit everybody's ded'.
Don't forget that the consensus here seems to be that Max would go back even if she let Chloe die and save her at some point after the funeral.
And there's no reason to assume she doesn't have her power still, and won't cause another storm by doing something she could only do because she learned it with the rewind. Now if they showed a scene of her testing them and realizing that they were gone, that would solidify her choice that Chloe is dead and Max will have to move on with that.
But since she still has them, she will go back.
This story seems to be going that route.
Starts off pretty depressing, and the author says it will get more so, but maybe everything will be alright in the end.
Honestly , if we compare her smiles in Bae and Bay ending, she seems more happier in Bae. I dunno if it's shitty animation or something but it seems really creepy in Bay and actually i found it kind of strange. I mean when she saw the butterfly she suddenly smiled; but looks like forced herself to smile, i know that butterfly symbolizes Chloe but still, is it normal? If you ask to me, it looks like ''ur gon die like a bitch in there, all of you''
>After Episode 5
>Co-Game Director and Art Director Michel Koch trapped in the Dark Room by his fandom
>According to statements, he's still happy and sings
Jefferson's Girlsall day long.
Any update Nova on the new chapter or are we back to the 10th and 25th?
DON'T DIE /LESG/!!!!!
WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sup nerds, long time no see.
I've been watching Twin Peaks over the last few weeks because everyone talking about LiS would also drop a line about TP at some point.
well, turns out all those people
have shit taste.
>the only thing LiS and TP have in common is the mere fact that they take place in a small town
>there's not even a missing girl mystery in TP because she's dead in episode 1
>LiS has mysteries, TP has weirdness for the sake of weirdness (Cooper's dreams)
>all that time wasted with the stupid and boring subplots in TP (good thing I started skipping forward 5 minutes everytime one of the side characters showed up)
Twin Peaks should have ended after the father died and even then I'd only it a 5/10 because it's slow, boring and unimaginative and aged horribly. with all the extra bullshit in the second half of season 2 I give it a 4/10 "not worth watching".
in case you you liked TP and think my rating system is off, here's my rating for LiS for comparison:
Episode 1: 7/10 Solid start and world-building, a bit short in retrospect.
Episode 2: 6/10 Yunkyard was okay although there could have been more experimentation with the rewind. Game couldn't make me care too much about Kate's subplot, it became just a simple checklist of things you had to say to save her.
Episode 3: 8/10 Spending time with Chloe was great. Ending of the episode was a bit ham-fisted.
Episode 4: 9/10 Finally starting the real investigation which came to a surprisingly quick finish after only 1-2 days (should have maybe kicked off more in episode 3 already to make it last longer).
Episode 5: 5/10 Jumping through multiple photos was nice (I expected only 1 really) and the nightmare sequence was interesting albeit a bit long and not very challenging at the labyrinth part. Telegraphed ending that should go on the "list of things that didn't happen".
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>Jumping through multiple photos was nice (I expected only 1 really)
yeah, the theory back then was that David would kick the door in right at the start, Max is free and jumps through the photo Warren took to, iunno, warn people about the storm.
regarding the locations spoiler that was out back then, the plane and san francisco gallery sections could've (and looking back should've) been one of the endings.
>tdw we were waiting for Episode 5
>tdw Scott was teasing us with shitty teasers
>tdw we were worrying about endings
>tdw we were analyzing everything about this game, even stupid devs's interviews and shit
>tdw we didn't believe' that they'll really fuck up everything
>tdw we were throwing our shits to when someone says 'episode 5 going to be a shit'
we were so naive
>I expected only 1 really
Really? Everything was very ''predictable'' from leaks mate.
Funny thing is they didn't change anything and they showed us to their wounded butts (budget), while we were showing our middle finger
I'm here! Good morning ^^
EMOJI YES!I'll work on it today! I promise! I wrote down the suggestions anyway. I think I liked one of them very much, but I don't remember which one it was. I'll check later. Working on Photoshop right now, so totally busy.
Victoria is best girl, yes, but she is the best girl as much as Chandler is the best boy in Friends. He's awesome and so is she, but she's not at her full potential without Maxine; kinda like Chandler doesn't work the same without Joey.
>the theory back then was that David would kick the door in right at the start,
most people realised that we would use the contest photo to escape (although thought that Jefferson would still be free to accompany Max, and she'd have to eas cape from the contest for that reason)
Looking back we were still kind of dumb though, we thought we'd go from to contest to the photo wall focus to the middle of the Storm in Chloe's truck with Chloe alive (never thinking Max might drive), completely forgetting that reused locations don't show up on the early sub leaks.
>Looking back we were still kind of dumb though
s-stop it anon. you're gonna make me cry
The Returned season 2 has finally started in Aus and it hit me that it has a few overlaps with LiS and Twin Peaks and might be something people are interested in moving on to. Not huge parallels, but still.
It's French, Mogwai did the entire soundtrack, it has some casual lesbians, brilliant atmosphere, beautiful visuals, fairly intriguing characters and setup, and the story is completely incomprehensible but in a more tolerable 'fuck it, just go with it, don't even try to figure it out' way rather than a horrific 'try and solve our mystery - haha just kidding, fuck it, the butler did it. btw you weren't enjoying these characters were you? Too bad, they're dead. Maybe:)' kinda way.
Hey guys, Life Is Strange has links to social workers you can call if you've been effected by issues/themes of the game.
Has anyone called these numbers and told them ho much they were effected by Life Is Strange?
>we thought we'd go from to contest to the photo wall focus to the middle of the Storm in Chloe's truck with Chloe alive
Some of us also thought about that storm in Chloe is truck with Chloe alive location , 'we probably would help people and say goodbye to Joyce'
They replaced somethings with Episode 4. JeffersonCar: Originally probably we'd go to junkyard(?) with Jefferson or just investigate his car. But they cut it. (also cut anon tried to run this scene, but he couldn't manage it)
In Episode 5 Jefferson probably'd hide Chloe's truck in the farm and Max'd drive it instead of Jefferson's car. That's it.
This is like a scene from Aliens, they just need a welded-shut door and pulse rifles for maximum comfy!
I almost did after the finale But after typing in the URL, I was overwhelmed by disgust at the devs and refused to let it be them who got me through it Thanks for being there, /lisg/
It's already 2016
TFW a loner
TFW still digesting dontnod epic character rape
>call one of numbers
>but wait Michel Koch answers it!!!!
>you can't talk because you're confused
>but he starts talking anyway
>whispers ''imaginationonononimaginationonononbuylimitededitiononon'' with his seductive voice
>you get hypnotized
>he starts to control your body
>everything went blank
>you finally wake up but you don't remember anything
>you look at ur computer screen immediately
>Thank you for Pre-Ordering Limited Edition!!!
See universeor rachaeel? if you gave some serious powers to some autistic but also adorable,cute teenager, this'll happen.
has been a while since I watched s1, the story was kinda slow...
Sounds like the US remake
Pic related is from the original
>so uh.. what exactly causes the tornado?
>spirit animals? also who the fuck is that doe?
>what about prescotts?
>but wait fuck all of that.real question is: what's the lesson of the story?
Michel : It was with you all along :)
in other words: ''budget kicked in, we fucked. but hey! just use your imaginations and make your own ending!!!
Kate is best girl.
Chloe is irredeemable shit. Sacrificing her was the easiest decision I made in that game.
Also, I was very disappointed when in the end nothing I did actually mattered and it all went towards one fucking choice.
> Sacrificing her was the easiest decision I made in that game.
>Chloe is irredeemable shit.
Chloe was never my favourite character, but come the fuck on anon! I don't think even Warren deserves a label like "irredeemable shit". That's something you reserve for truly heinous characters like The Catalyst.
>I don't think even Warren deserves a label like "irredeemable shit"
No anon. he deserves worse
>Also, I never rp'd.
>then agreeing with Max isn't a RPG character
oh you baitcuck...
>girl turns her back to camera
>takes a photo accidentally
>enters a contest and wins
>goes to san francisco
>everybody likes that shitty photo
>but gives up from her biggest dream 'Everyday's hero contest' to save her true love
that shit doesn't happen in real life
>Said to his crush ''Sensitive means: ''won't be having sex with you''
>Beaten up by Nathan before 3 days ago
>Suddenly he became street fighter(!) in 3 days (well lucky bitch, obviously Nathan was drunk or took pills)
> Thinks sodium and potassium have different chemical reactions when they're both in the same chemical group
>And then became a science major, devs gave him extra scene to explain(!) Max's powers, ''HOLY SHIETT MAX IT'S CHAOS THEORY (which isn't even related with story), and says ''going back into the time (wants to say saving Chloe) is what causing the storrmm''
>Whinning about ''i know you didn't come for me :( '' during the goddamn storm when Max came for the photo.
>why is Warren shit
Honestly i tried so hard to love this kid but i couldn't. I don't hate him but i don't like him either.
Sounds to me like your typical 18 year old nerd. Maybe I see too much of myself in him to hate him. Maybe I understand why he acted that way, and maybe I have hopes for him to get his shit together like me.
I never expected the game to be scientifically accurate in the least, though, so I didn't care about the chemical reactions. Still crazy to throw an alkali metal in water and put your head over it.
Also, I always had the impression he was a /b/tard.
Eh, you can't change the past anyways, so why be embarassed? I suppose the people who hate him for that are the ones who are that or just above his age. If I look ten years back, I remember the stupid shit I did, but it was a part of making me into the man I am today and I am pretty content with him.
The end credits theme is even better.
And you're a Bumbling-whore
Going out to watch the most recent Star Wars.
Hopefully it doesn't feel like as much as a kick in the dick as Polarized did. But after some of the stuff in the prequels, I suppose it can't get any worse.
I heard it's pretty much a re-write of A New Hope
It is but honestly I think it was a pretty fun movie. It probably won't go down in history as a classic like the originals but it was more or less what everyone was hoping to see. And after a year of disappointments like Polarized it really did feel kind of refreshing to watch a good Star Wars movie after all these years.
well there's the memecore Telltale games, or even the memier Gone Home
I agree for the most part. In any case it wouldn't yet be a particularly strong feeling, nor would he necessarily be all too aware of what it really is. But I do think there's reason to believe he started to take some form of infatuation with her. Precisely because he has so much other shit on his mind: Why would he then go and deal with Max so much? As Max says herself, he has no reason to be scared of her, really. And he still pursues her, works on that photo montage, wrecks her room, steals her selife, sends her texts... The willingness to talk to her at all in the diner also always striked me as strange. It's like he talks despite not wanting to talk, which is obvious when he blurts out things like the blood oath. What drives him to talk? Max was certainly not using superpowers to systematically puzzle those things out of him, so it must just be the effect she has on him?
But that's just a way I can see him having or starting to have feelings for her. I wouldn't go as far as to say it was definitely intended here or that it couldn't be interpreted in a very different way.
And yeah, as for not warning Victoria, it must be that he was just too ashamed of himself and apparently that shame was bigger than anything he felt for her, bigger than his fear of death and fear for her...
Every night when I try to sleep, I daydream a bit about Max. And she's always depressed in them, either she's gone loco because she killed Chloe, or she feels intense guilt for killing the whole town.
I often picture Max, either waking up in the middle of the night, from a nightmare, crying about how she missed Chloe. Or sitting in the bench by the lighthouse, tears flowing down her cheeks. Or just talking to Chloe's gravestone, on the verge of crying.
Either that or, waking up in the middle of the night with Chloe by her side, frantically hugging her and whimpering "I killed them Chloe, I killed them..", or just staring outside the motel room, looking at the vast sandy town and the rundown shophouses, thoughtfully.
Man its so depressing.
Ugh so true. I've known so many niceguys™. They're annoying as fuck and Warryn reminded me of them wayy to much. Especially the texting part.
The most unsettling part is that the way he went evilwarren in the nightmare?
Ive had niceguys™ do that in real life. Charming bunch
Mate do it and post it here, you can never have too many alternate endings. Someone'll like it, even if its badly written.
If you want proof of that, just look at the way some people like the game's actual endings
Hmm before I write one, I need to know something.
Is it even possible to drive from "Arcadia Bay", which is set around Oregon, to Seattle? I live in a pretty small city so I have no idea how week long road trips work.
I cringe so hard at my past self for that same reason. Trust me, you could've been worse. I wasn't just a clingy creep but I would also whine to our common friends how she was a slut just because she would flirt with me while having a boyfriend (although it was just that, playful flirting, and I never really was "one of her options" as I so wanted to believe).
It was fun and I love Rei and BB-8, but it's pretty much
A New Hope beat to beat. I laughed so hard when George Lucas called Disney white slaver because of it.
At least you're aware of it. Girls don't like that shit. There was this guy from my group project last semester that wouldn't stop texting me or asking me 20 questions. So annoying.
Look at google maps son.. Some people were saying ages back that Coos Bay in Oregon might be the closest one could get to Arcadia. It also has a school called Marshfield, and another called Price Elementary IIRc, so its pretty fitting.
It's only a six hour drive from Coos Bay (with is about midway up Oregon's coast) up to Seattle.
Pretty easy trip desu, its kinda funny what a big deal it is to Chloe and Max.
Did anyone ever tell you "Please leave me alone. I don't like you like that." and you still kept clinging?
Because I don't get how otherwise bitching about people being interested in you makes you anything but an idiot at best. "Can't this guy take a hint?!" - Well, if he hasn't for the 100th time, I'd wager, no, he cannot. So just tell him. Max didn't tell Warren either. Leading people on because you are too much of a wussy to tell them what's up makes you as much a "goodguy" as obliviously pursuing you does them.
That is cool, I don't have to come up with a whole road trip story.
I might have to replay the game dozen of times to really understand Max's personality.. Should I use "I" or "Max"? Hmmm
>As Max says herself, he has no reason to be scared of her, really.
He has every reason to be scared of her. He's generally a very anxious, defensive person, and she saw him flip out on Chloe. Even if she can't bust him immediately, she still persists. It's quite striking too how different his demeanour is depending on how much you've shown a willingness to be a threat.
>What drives him to talk?
This is an interesting point. I think on some level, Nathan understands that Max is a good person and cares about people, and we know that despite his destructive behaviour, he doesn't want to hurt anyone. He just unfortunately wants the sense of personal safety and Jefferson-approval that come from hurting people.
He doesn't trust Max enough to say what's going on, but he trusts and respects her enough to not just shut her down completely (except when she gets too close for comfort, to a point where he'd have to become vulnerable or state something outright, like probing about his father or the blood oath). And for a kid who's been burned by his father, let down by every adult who failed to step in including police, abandoned by his therapist, and groomed by a criminal, the level of unthinking comfort he shows with Max is probably nothing to sneeze at.
He's not letting this shit slip because he thinks she's benign, and it's not being dragged out of him either.
I think he trusts Max's intentions, and is scared knowing they're not in his favour, believing they could never be. He doesn't see his actions as redeemable and doesn't see the world as willing or able to help him, and in the end it kills him.
If he'd given himself a little more credit from the beginning, this whole thing could have resolved peacefully, without a confession costing his or Chloe's life. Funny, because that's exactly what Max is learning to do for herself throughout the week. These two really are great foils.
Ben Soloreminds me of Dandy from AHS Freak Show with his "I hate you!!" tantrums.
He didn't pursue Chloe at all after the bathroom incident. And she's the one he actually pulled a gun on. The one actually threatening to reveal what he did to her.
When Max tells on Nathan to Wells, Nathan is immediately called into his office. And that's that. That's all Max can do and when she did, nothing happened. He has no reason to believe Max is looking to bust him, or that she'd have any real possibility to, either. Just a random girl that happened to be there for an uncomfortable confrontation. And yet he keeps pressing.
I guess at the end of Episode 2, where Max in the potential presence of a police officer accuses Nathan of drugging Kate he has reason to be on her ass more, but it's still not like she really has anything on him nor that he can know that she is trying to actively investigate all that stuff. For all he knows she is completely uninvolved and just talked to Kate. Which, at that point, is essentially true. She didn't even watch the video as he rightly points out. I can't see what he has to be so afraid of with Max that he actually goes and trashes her room and everything. But I guess the video does support the idea that a lot of it is meant to be intimidation rather than infatuation.
As for your thoughts on the diner conversation, I can certainly see most of that holding true to some degree. Especially the "I think he trusts Max's intentions, and is scared knowing they're not in his favour, believing they could never be." part.
So what you are saying is that he kind of wants to turn her in his favour? Something along the lines of a slight hope that she can actually help him, like she says?
Failed suicide attempts are usually a desperate cry for help more than anything. Men are statistically probably too ingrained with "gotta be a MAN" for showing that kind of vulnerability, gotta just get outta here.
Hey! I started writing with the intention of Max having the flu, but I ended up writing something totally else.
S-Sorry.Thanks for the pic though! It's wowser adorable.
> Max didn't tell Warren either
Max didn't bother to tell him, she's aware of everything but also doesn't want to hurt his feelings either. she just choose to ignore it.
Well she doesn't even care about anybody except Chloe, even she ignored the giant tornado until episode 5.But this kid still doesn't take the fucking hint, although people considers him as smart.
Considering buying the season, never tried the demo, never seen gameplay, BUT I've heard Mass Effect 3-levels of polarization about the wrap up.
My question: Do you feel like the experience, including the end, is worth it? Simple yes or no.
You just repeated exactly what I said would make Max, and other people that act like her in her position, guilty of the same thing they hate a "goodguy" for, themselves.
Yes. Although, playing the game in its entirety now? That will be an entirely different experience from the one people had that were there for the wait between episodes. Still worthwhile I reckon, but your experience won't be comparable to that.
do you like story focused games with comfy indie music and qt hipster grills and lesbian romantic tension?
if yes, play it
do you enjoy shitty illogical 'magical' science and a sudden forced moral choice being dropped on the player at the end that punishes you for getting emotionally involved in the game at all?
then yes, definitely play it
>He didn't pursue Chloe at all after the bathroom incident. And she's the one he actually pulled a gun on. The one actually threatening to reveal what he did to her.
Max is in much closer quarters and can actually follow through with dobbing him in though. I'm not sure how he'd even get to Chloe. Plus, he sees in episode 1 that they're in cahoots.
>When Max tells on Nathan to Wells, Nathan is immediately called into his office. And that's that. That's all Max can do and when she did, nothing happened.
But she still did it, and he still got called in. That's a lot of balls on her part, and dangerous for him - Nathan can afford to be dragged in to Wells' office, but Jefferson's not going to like that kind of attention. And it's unclear if Jefferson ever knows about Nathan and Chloe's altercation, so it might also be dangerous for Nathan that he might find out.
And the extent of Nathan's pressing is the parking lot "don't fuck with me," and optionally going on to trash her room and intimidate her in class ONLY if she did continue pressing (he's still in class if she didn't report him, but his attitude is very neutral). For lack of a better phrase, I wouldn't say he's going overboard.
>So what you are saying is that he kind of wants to turn her in his favour? Something along the lines of a slight hope that she can actually help him, like she says?
Kind of the opposite, I think Nathan believes himself to be beyond or undeserving of help by the time Max rolls around. When he called her in episode 5, he could have finally asked for help, but instead he phrased it as an apologetic goodbye, like he's just a piece of shit and doing her a favour by getting out of her hair. Like he doesn't even see the desire to warn her as 'points' in his favour, just an admission of guilt before accepting his 'punishment'.
I think he has hope that she'll do the right thing, and believes that the right thing is for him to go down, which he's scared to allow.
But isn't that an unWARRENted generalization?
You sound like Chloe, too.
>Max didn't tell Warren either.
Yeah, this irritates me. In episode 2, Warren actually has the balls to directly ask her to dinner in a text, and Max simply doesn't respond until he takes it back.
It's really sad, because this could have been a really cool story of unrequited love from the other side, and two kids learning how to get the balls to both face rejection and do some rejecting. But they tossed that out entirely in favour of pursuing a bullshit romance rout encapsulated by a 2 second awkward kiss. People who don't romance Warren don't even get the chance to cement a friend rout by rejecting him proper, in those runs he's just a completely pointless character.
>He doesn't know about that deleted tweet
It's not really a generalization. When someone constantly acts nicely to butter someone up and then doesn't get the result they want, they will eventually show their true colours.
It's not just a 'nice guy' thing. Look at Victoria, and how suddenly she turned to blackmailing Jefferson.
Begrudging yes. But (yeah, but, faggot. 'Simple yes or no' my dick) only because I'm very interested in storytelling; what works, what doesn't, why, potentials and limitations in different mediums, etc.
If I was just looking for entertainment, I would 100% regret the shit out of ever picking this game up.
Oh, then we had some people who needed to type more than one word, and then...
... Yeah. No. I'm out. $13.39 is not enough of a discount to make up for the Nos I saw AND this. I enjoy good story telling (hell, I bought To the Moon during this sale and I heard that's pretty much just a novel where you can move), but... Yeah. Maybe next winter. Or the one after that. Or never.
Again, thanks guys. The honesty is appreciated.
Because he's an avatar for the writers, they're not going to create a character based off a sympathetic version of their teenage selves and then have him turn nasty if the player doesn't pick his 'route'. He has to be a perfect angel through and through to convey the plight of the beta nerd.
>Max is in much closer quarters and can actually follow through with dobbing him in though. I'm not sure how he'd even get to Chloe. Plus, he sees in episode 1 that they're in cahoots.
Those are not very strong arguments though you have to admit, especially not when the premise is that fear is the main drive of his actions.
> That's a lot of balls on her part, and dangerous for him
But how? Again, she did everything she can realistically do and ends being a threat at that point. If anything he should be more intimidating if she didn't already report the incident.
But you are right that not only is his pressing dependent to some degree on whether Max shows herself to be willing to oppose him, but that he'd maybe have reason to be afraid because of Jefferson. I think this is supported in the blame scene at the end of Episode 2 where Nathan seems more concerned with what Jefferson makes of the stuff Max says than both Wells and David and potnetially even the police officer. We know Jefferson let him know how disappointed he is in him after what happened to Rachel. And that Jefferson avoided Nathan, while Nathan was probably trying to reconcile. Max could represent his fear of that relationship completely falling out, and worse.
>Kind of the opposite
Oh, fair enough. But then back to the question I had problems seeing how you answered it there. What drives him to speak? I put that down to some effect Max has on him, i. e. developing feelings, but that's of course just one way to explain it. If he isn't trying to "get her on his side", why be so comparably open with her, why is he so comfortable that he actually lets stuff slip?
That's the thing, you DO see that side of him in the nightmare.
Sure, it's Max's nightmare and not actually Warren, but for real, we've all fucking met a guy who turns EXACTLY like that if he feels friendzoned.
> But they tossed that out entirely in favour of pursuing a bullshit romance rout encapsulated by a 2 second awkward kiss.
Honestly, there's no romance route for this kid whatever you do. Because main character doesn't show him any affection canonically. Even if you kissed (way too ooc desu) him it will not have meaning or importance for Max afterwards unlike Chloe's kiss(if you did it) . It wasn't ''OMG OMG I LOVE HIM I'M IN LOVE WITH HIM'' moment; just ''i feel sorry for him and he's gonna die anyway'' moment. So you can't see love between them.
In the other hand Leave/ Hug( if you want to nice to him) is what canon Max would do tho; they put 2 friendzone option. I mean her feelings towards him very obvious from the start. (we even have no unoptional reactions towards him even hug,which's strange)
Hug feels like the most true to Max's character. She appreciates him for how much he tried to help her (ulterior motive or not), is exceptionally thankful that he kept that photograph with him which will allow her to save Chloe, and (thanks to Warren) now knows that all the death and destruction around them is entirely her fault(!). So she feels like she owes him some small gesture to make things up to him.
Leave is funnier though, so fucking salty.
>Those are not very strong arguments though you have to admit, especially not when the premise is that fear is the main drive of his actions.
I don't see why.
And his fear is reactive. Max reports him, Nathan responds by trashing her room, done. She doesn't, he doesn't.
What's he supposed to do, drive out to Chloe's house and key her car? If she makes no move, he has no reason to.
>and ends being a threat at that point. If anything he should be more intimidating if she didn't already report the incident.
I don't get this at all. She STARTS being a threat once she shows the strength to disregard his status. It doesn't matter if it pans out, what matters is she's willing to try, and that needs to be discouraged. The only reason Wells can't do anything is a lack of evidence, so what happens when there IS evidence? What happens is Nathan gets suspended. So he was right to be worried.
>What drives him to speak?
Trust in Max's morals, and a buried desire for 'good to prevail' (for desperate want of a less cheesy phrase). Which could include feelings for Max, I say reader's choice.
Ultimately, he has a certain amount of trust and respect for her, and a certain level of belief that the dark room should go down. But that last bit comes with a belief that he'll have to go down with it, so a self-preservation instinct holds him back from being more open.
If he thought he could get her on his side, he'd probably do more to endear himself to her and actively help her out. Instead he can only let things Freudianly slip because he's torn between the right thing and self preservation, as a result of his self-loathing that tells him he's not getting out of this. If he thought he was redeemable, things would probably be a lot easier.
That's not him though, that's Max's fear of a potential. Just because those guys exist, doesn't automatically make him one of them. He's written off, we never see what comes of it.
I never said he was like that.
No one did, in fact.
The person you were originally arguing with didn like Warren because he;s in the niceguy™ stage and reminded anon of their ex.
Because guys like that go shitty on you.
Sure, Warren doesnt (outisde the nightmare) but he stll has all the hallmarks of a niceguy™ who is gonna snap and start calling you a selfish bitch becuase you wont sleep with him.
>It's not just a 'nice guy' thing. Look at Victoria, and how suddenly she turned to blackmailing Jefferson.
That was the point where it became obvious she's a sociopath (aka "snake in suit". That kid is trouble.
she looks like some sort of tree in this
>implying we don't all want to die
Why are you in the general of a game that we've all been bitching about for 2 months like you don't know the score? This is not a happy place.
>I don't see why.
Because the arguments you listed would have him tactically gauge how likely it is to silence someone or how likely it is they are able to bust him. Who should he be more afraid of: Chloe, the girl he drugged and dragged back to her room, that is threatening to tell everyone about it and that he pulled a gun on - or Max, an as far as he knows completely unrelated, shy and quite girl that potentially saw a confrontation? He doesn't even send Chloe threatening texts, the absolute least he could do and would if fear was his primary drive behind pressing onto Max.
>I don't get this at all.
At all? I'm not saying your reasoning doesn't apply that she starts being a threat once she shows herself willing to oppose him, but the logic of this reasoning is pretty straight-forward too: He thinks she saw him. If she didn't tell on him he'd have reason to intimidate her into not doing it ever. If she does and he gets called in, he realises she has no photo evidence or otherwise and he gets to walk right out. Why then go after her more? What does he have to fear now, that this shy geek girl suddenly goes all sherlock on his ass with time travel powers? He doesn't know that. If anything by confronting her further he is risking revealing that her allegations are true.
>If he thought he could get her on his side, he'd probably do more to endear himself to her and actively help her out.
I meant the subliminal hope thing that she does see his good side or maybe can help. Which, "he can only let things Freudianly slip because he's torn between the right thing and self preservation" goes in that direction, doesn't it?
And "a certain amount of trust and respect for her" could be argued to be feelings starting to develop. He acts like he absolutely despises her and we think he has reason to be aggressive too, but apparently he also is somehow fond of her, or so stuff like him being able to talk to her like that have me believe.
I am not the same person who hated him for that.
I hate him because hes a niceguy™ before turning into a cunt.
They're awful enough in the nice guy stage becuase they refuse to fucking take the hint.
At least when they go nuclear on you and try to upset you into touching their peepees, you can easily just go "Man what a jerk" and brush him off.
Before that you've a high chance of being castigated by people because "but he's such a nice guy ;-;".
Remove niceguys™. Remove Warren.
Get over yourself.
Yes Ep5 is bad, yes there are a lot of plot holes and issues with the story telling and it's plain that DONTNOD are incompetent and maybe probably got a bit lucky with how good this game ended up being despite it all. Does that mean the experience was not compelling? No. I love this game, which is why I care enough to stick around and pick it apart months after it's concluded. I'd assumed this was a shared sentiment but I guess I was wrong, which is deeply disappointing.
I'm just so disgusted that you would put off someone who might enjoy it as we all did, at one point at the very least, because of what really are nitpicks.
>Because the arguments you listed would have him tactically gauge how likely it is to silence someone or how likely it is they are able to bust him.
Quite the opposite. Yes, Chloe's probably a bigger threat but he doesn't do anything because she's not right in her face like Max is. If he was being tactical, he'd probably go for Chloe. He's being reactive, so he goes for Max because she's right in front of him. 'Not as big a threat as Chloe' doesn't mean she's not a threat.
>If she didn't tell on him he'd have reason to intimidate her into not doing it ever.
Which he does by confronting her in the parking lot, and giving her a chill stare-down in the classroom.
>If she does and he gets called in, he realises she has no photo evidence or otherwise and he gets to walk right out.
THAT'S being tactical, though. Which isn't what he's doing.
All he sees is that she's brave, and he's not, so he has to puff his chest out and make her go away. That she is brave is what makes her threatening, not anything she could actually accomplish. She's not scared of him, so he feels like he has to make her scared. Like he scared Chloe by pointing a gun in her face.
>I meant the subliminal hope thing that she does see his good side or maybe can help. Which, "he can only let things Freudianly slip because he's torn between the right thing and self preservation" goes in that direction, doesn't it?
>And "a certain amount of trust and respect for her" could be argued to be feelings starting to develop. He acts like he absolutely despises her and we think he has reason to be aggressive too, but apparently he also is somehow fond of her, or so stuff like him being able to talk to her like that have me believe.
I think these are just a matter of equally valid interpretation.
Sorry but this really ticked me off. Like, regardless of what you think of the ending, do you want to see a season 2? Then what do you gain by putting people off the game? Just ugh.
>I hate him because hes a niceguy™ before turning into a cunt.
But he never got a chance to turn into a cunt.
You're still hating him for the actions of completely different people.
I think I have to leap out of this discussion before I sound like a Warrencuck. Your hatred is too strong, I feel inadequate.
>I'd assumed this was a shared sentiment but I guess I was wrong, which is deeply disappointing.
Tough shit. Go find another community instead of acting like a bossy boots just because this one isn't moulded to your preference. You apparently haven't been here the last two months or you would have known what the score was - and if you had, maybe you'd have better shaped it into a positive atmosphere.
But again, tough shit.
>I'm just so disgusted that you would put off someone who might enjoy it as we all did, at one point at the very least, because of what really are nitpicks.
Sorry for having an opinion.
No really, read what I just said
I hate niceguy behaviour before they turn into cunts.
When they're being cunts its easy to deal with.
Warren is a niceguy.
I do not like niceguy behaviour. I do not like Warren.
>Yes, Chloe's probably a bigger threat
Which means fear would dictate him being on her ass. What you are arguing for him makes it tactically out to be more reasonable to be on Max's ass.
>Which he does by confronting her in the parking lot, and giving her a chill stare-down in the classroom.
Yes. Remember my argument was that his pressing is not entirely dependent on her showing herself to be dangerous to him, but could have other reasons, like slight or developing feelings. Of course the idea with the parking lot is definitely not that. "You are Max Caulfield, right?" - here his motivations definitely are not personal yet, he's made out to hardly know her at this point.
>She's not scared of him, so he feels like he has to make her scared.
Yeah, like I said, this interpretation is perfectly reasonable. We went from generally wondering why he presses onto her as much to this specific incident, where I actually agree the reasons why he does here in both cases of her reporting him or not can definitely not be that he already holds feelings for her of any kind.
>I think these are just a matter of equally valid interpretation.
Yeah, ultimately there's a lot of questionable stuff with Nathan still and no interpretation will ever cover all of it in a consistent manner I'm afraid. Either because dontnod didn't think too hard about all of this (likely) or because Nathan is a mystery to himself and the story (unlikely-ier). I just find the idea interesting that he does develop feelings for Max and the parallel of that to Victoria I outlined there, but of course I would never insist on the interpretation of all his actions to support that, or even that the idea itself is particularly meaningful for the story. Nathan can certainly be interpreted and understood without ever going there. I just threw that out there because it can be and does epxlain some stuff about him that otherwise needs at least equally as much headcanon-assumptions.
I explained my reasons earlier, idk if it's linked to this post chain but whatever it's really not your business. People are allowed to recommend or not recommend anything if they feel that way.
>Which means fear would dictate him being on her ass. What you are arguing for him makes it tactically out to be more reasonable to be on Max's ass.
How does it make tactical sense to be on the lesser threat's ass? Chloe is out of sight out of mind.
>Yes. Remember my argument was that his pressing is not entirely dependent on her showing herself to be dangerous to him, but could have other reasons, like slight or developing feelings. Of course the idea with the parking lot is definitely not that. "You are Max Caulfield, right?" - here his motivations definitely are not personal yet, he's made out to hardly know her at this point.
It sounds like your point is entirely based on the classroom scene then, considering he only trashes her room if she reports him (which makes for a pretty implicit motivation) and doesn't do much else.
I don't necessarily dispute that he could have feelings for her, but I think the core of his willingness to speak to her in the diner is based on what kind of person she is (and what kind of person she is could influence however he feels, so it's not necessarily a contradiction), which I personally feel is a much more rich and character-centric basis for motivation.
She warns you in episode 4 that your choices won't matter, and then 'saves' you from something in episode 5 (which you were only in a position to be hit by because you have to save her dumb ass AGAIN).
Looks like some "people" here consider themselves juvenile tryhard faggots.
What a surprise
Having trouble expressing yourself, son?
Control your breathing.
>How does it make tactical sense to be on the lesser threat's ass?
That was your argument. That he has an easier time getting to her and that she is more "close quarters". Which would be a "tactical" reason to press her, whereas he should definitely be more afraid of Chloe and pursue her if solely fear was driving him onto Max. But I get now that you meant "close quarters" more in: Nathan sees Max and feels threatened; Chloe being "out of sight out of mind". Although how realistic it is that Nathan functions as simply as that is another question. Making a photo montage certainly doesn't feel like impulse.
>It sounds like your point is entirely based on the classroom scene then
Well, obviously this could also depend on your playthrough whether he develops feelings or notices them or whatever. Similarly to what I initially mentioned about Victoria. But mainly I was looking at the fact that he warned her (and not Victoria) and reverse-reasoning from there. I guess it would be better for this idea if his warning call would depend on your playthrough (and actually, it should), but I think it's still possible to go there.
>based on what kind of person she is [...] character-centric basis for motivation
It's just that to me it seems it's less that he consciously is this or that to her depending on what he thinks of her, but letting stuff slip is more indicative that he feels this or that way and in this case can't help but feel comfortable enough for this to happen. Which normally wouldn't be too much to go off of to assume feelings, but considering how he should feel (especially in a respective playthrough) about her and how he generally behaves it seems somewhat significant.
At least significant enough to play with this idea - again, I'm no trying to insist there's infatuation there. I just don't think you can definitely exclude that possibility, to me it certainly at least fits better and explains more than a variety of other interpretations I have seen.
So I've been wanting to write something LiS related for the past few days, from Max's perspective starting in the darkroom like in episode 5.
How long would it take for Max to convince Victoria to get her head strait, and then for Victoria to work her way over to the other side of the room and break that whiskey bottle and free them both?
Do you think Jefferson would come back before Victoria managed to free herself?
If so, do you think if Max and Vic toppled the chair that Max is in, and then Max rewound, would she be free from the straps or not?
I mean I know I can write whatever bullshit I want, but just humor me.
>Asking for writing ideas from 4chans
>Although how realistic it is that Nathan functions as simply as that is another question. Making a photo montage certainly doesn't feel like impulse.
It doesn't necessarily have to be on total impulse considering they're peers and live within like 50 feet of each other, very easy to stew on.
>I just don't think you can definitely exclude that possibility
Oh totally, and I don't exclude it. I don't particularly subscribe to it and (clearly lol) think it's debatable, but it's a reasonable possibility.
I think she said she couldn't even move her hands, so she was in a pretty bad spot.
And if Max toppled the chair and rewound, the chair would be pulled back up and she'd probably be forced up with it since she's sitting in it. But if she got the tape off and rewound, the tape would probably be 'inventory' and wouldn't be stuck back down.
>How long would it take for Max to convince Victoria to get her head strait, and then for Victoria to work her way over to the other side of the room and break that whiskey bottle and free them both?
It's not just 'getting her head straight', she says she can't feel her arms or legs. You'd have to wait for the drugs to wear off, which could take hours.
Or just ignore the canon and go for whatever. Whisky bottle, scissors in a draw, use her teeth. It's fanfic, do whatever you want.
>Do you think Jefferson would come back before Victoria managed to free herself?
>If so, do you think if Max and Vic toppled the chair that Max is in, and then Max rewound, would she be free from the straps or not?
No, things that she's touching stay consistently in place, hence why her rewind power doesn't remove her clothes when she uses it.
Though I'm sure Chloe would have had a field day if that was part of the deal.
>(thanks to Warren)
>So she feels like she owes him some small gesture to make things up to him.
actually we don't owe him an anything anon. especially after this shitty dialogue 'holy shet max it's chaos theory, i might be a pain in the ass but going back into the time is what causing the storm' oh really?
First day back at work after new years, no wonder everyone's on edge.
well what d'you know, me too
and it was a week late
>Does that mean the experience was not compelling? No. I love this game
Nobody said ''i don't love this game'' or shit. People asking ''Do you feel like the experience, including the end, is worth it?'' 'including the end'
And we're just saying ''they fucked up whole game with Episode 5 because they went with baby's first theory; everything was literally fine until the last episode'' Does it mean we don't love whole game? (Ep1,Ep2,Ep3,Ep4) no. But it doesn't change the fact that they fucked up in Episode 5.
>I'm just so disgusted that you would put off someone who might enjoy it as we all did, at one point at the very least, because of what really are nitpicks.
yeah we are nitpicks.
enjoy with ur limited edition
u fucking shiteater
We are in the lower double-figures here. Everything that you read here is a substantial part of the general. Sadly. It is obvious the majority of the thread content sucks. What you can do as long as not 100% all of it sucks and give yu something to come here for, is ignore all the shit that sucks. Completely.
And then really, what do you care about people putting that dude off? He was very obviously not overly interested to begin with when he based his decision purely on "Yes" or "No" and bitched about people elaborating beyond their "Yes". He doesn't deserve your rant.
Not sure how cute this really is, but it is cute enough.
Okay I just finished the game, am I genre-savvy enough (that is to say "seen one, seen them all") to have seen the ending from miles away or was it THAT uninspired
Everyone saw that ending coming from episode 1. It's probably the most over used time travel cliche there is.
>we changed thing
>oh no, time is too fragil, we have to go back and undo changing thing to save everything!
On top of that it doesn't even add up right. Why does the universe care about Chloe dying right then and there? We saved Chloe's dad in an alternate timeline, yet a tornado didn't appear a week after he was meant to die.
everyone saw it coming, even from the first episode.
and dontnod knew it, and didn't try to do any damage control, didn't sit there and think 'look, even if we want to still do this no matter how obvious it is, we should make sure these endings have enough content to feel somewhat satisfying'
This was the ending we spent 10 months vehemently believing they would never do because no way in hell is the plot culmination going to be a pathetic time travel cliche like this.
>Dontnod will never admit they had more planned to the story despite the countless dropped plot points, cut content, voice files, and people mad at the shitty endings
I would literally pay the entire seasons price to get a redone episode 5, with a real ending
I just hate this shit because they will never address the inconsistencys. Were they lying when they said there would be multiple endings? Or were they lying when they said they always intended to end the game like this?
Just trolling, sorry.
But you do generalize awfully generally.
> TFW all my friends have
disappeared into the haze of ambiguity
Oh man. I listened to the first minute or so of that credit's song soooo many times while making my epilogue animation ... so I was totally sick of it. But listening to the whole thing through just makes me feel super nostalgic.
Max and Chloe IRL when?!