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I claim this thread for Queen Annalise and the Vilebloods.
>If you have the chikage tricked when the moon presence does his super frenzy ultra moonbeam you instantly die
This boss is more fun now
What if upgrading your weapons did more than just straight damage up and instead gave you new or better moves (for example maybe you get a 3 hit combo or a followup for a normal R2, etc.). Also, what if you could get gems that increased different aspects of your weapon i.e. gems that make your attacks faster, have better range, etc? Maybe this would have to be weapon specific since it would make some weapons way stronger than they already are.
I feel like this would going through the game and upgrading your weapon would actually feel like progression rather than just more damage.
What level and password?
>Saw is so fast it does damage before its animation even STARTS
This is horse shit
xth for the cutest huntress on /bbg/
What the fuck just happened?
I'm a worm now?
Did I end the nightmare?
No problem. I actually just beat him today myself, which is why I was wearing the cainhurst gear. In general though, it's pretty easy to just hit and run against him until he gets into his second phase
She's just taking a nap.
It's a tough job cleaning up the Dream what with all the messes you drag into it.
Leave her be for now, let her rest.
>Watch some lvl 40 dude fight Laurence
>when he gets hit 1/4th of his HP is gone
>he does +350dmg every hit
Meanwhile I'm lvl 98 so as much damage than him and get a third of my health removed everytime Laurence hits me.
How the hell is that possible?
Got this SRRC guy in FC yesterday. like what?
he opened the lever and everything.
Thanks micolash but I actually do want an explanation.
My guess is that the nightmare ended but I became an old one in the process basically taking the moon presences job as big tentacly asshole.
>Not those fatso roly-poly faglords in the Chalice Dungeons
>or the red spider hordes that'll aggro to you even when you're at the lamp
>or the hellhounds which hide behind walls and spawn in packs
>or the mad men with the poison bodies
but my quesiton is, why use adversial search and sinister bells if you dont pvp?
None of those are bad except for the spider mobs. They are arguably the most dangerous enemies in the game when a squad of them comes to fuck your shit up.
>farming while watching Watashi
the rollspam watchers are pretty rough considering how hard it is to react to their buttsplash, and the damage it does at lower levels
the hellhounds are kind of rough because they NEVER fucking stagger
>the hellhounds are kind of rough because they NEVER fucking stagger
>Laugh as they helplessly fly across the room
All dogs and spiders go flying when hit with blood damage, a potshot from a +0 pistol will launch them
>they NEVER fucking stagger
But I can stagger them without a strength weapon, they just can't get stunlocked. I think they're actually easier than regular hounds because they're wide open during their fire breath, and their lunges aren't nearly as fast.
People did this all the time back when DeS had just come out, actually did this myself and helped some people get to Tower Knight and Penetrator. Just another sign that the community is a lot better without the 'muh multiplatform slow & methodical balanced longevity' children around.
>spend a huge chunk of the game with Gascoigne's cap wishing it had a facemask
>mfw the Old Hunter Cap
So is the DLC worth 20 dollars?
I heard they also patched a new covenant in.
he's basically being a fanboy and saying that because Dark Souls 1 and 2 were on PC and 360 they were objectively worse communities, as if it's any better with Sony exclusives
>Half of dsg was shitposting about cheat engine for the entirety of DaS pc port and DaS2 while I was there
I'm not gonna say we're less toxic with all the bullshit going on here every once in a while but being console exclusive is already a huge cut on shitposting
Reminder that we will be a part of their general in four months.
What's a good ratio of SKL/ARC if i wanna use weapons like the rapier, bom, scythe etc?
I'f i'm planing on using Rakuyo or the Pick should i just dump in SKL and forget ARC?
Making second character, how bad is this? I was thinking about mainly using Reiterpallasch with something like Chikage as a side weapon.
Covenant is added in for free with the patch. The DLC is worth is for all the weapons alone. The new areas are just icing on the cake.
Forced co-op. Invade, and open shortcuts or boss gates while being immune to enemies.
DaS1 was fine when it was on Sony and Xbox. The community only went to shit when it came out on PC as well.
You need at least 1 insight if you want her up and talking. You can still channel echoes through her even if she isn't up and about. Usually, I'll just attack her before leveling to speed things up.
Wanna help me through ng+ shaded woods? I'm autistic so I need to collect all of the items no matter how shit they are, unlock all of the shortcuts, and kill all of the enemies.
You don't need a lot of end on a reiter character because your bullets don't cost stamina and you can't combo in pvp regardless.
25 blt won't be enough for the chikage to be a viable secondary. Stick to skl weapons.
Thanks, Beast Roar is pretty fun so i might just bump it to 15.
>confederate moves to the side and lets me murder the host
Since she doesn't just keep talking in the background as you level, and you have to mash X to get through her dialog, it's just faster to just attack her. She'll just moan, crumple at your feet, then you can still channel echoes without needing to mash through the dialog before and after you do what you need.
It's just faster and more efficient. She'll be up and talking the next time you come back anyway.
Not sure what's wrong amigo, but I'm sitting right here waiting.
What level are people doing Living Failures/Maria?
Can anyone help me kill the two fish fuckers in the well? I've wasted like 8 insight on shaman bones and they don't fucking do anything. I confuse on and they just attack eachother for no damage in a corner.
I can only parry them back to back so many times before they both just fuck me with simultaneous combos.
I beat him by doing enough damage before his final phase started, so we just fought in the hallway and his spell couldn't hit me behind a corner. If you follow him right on his ass before a drops down, you might be able to trigger the final phase with a plunging attack.
In other words
I never figured it out.
I think it's doable 70ish-100 if you're good at parrying and keep running living failures aren't too much of a hassle. Maria too if you can time those dodges and have decent VIT
It's true. I am not just trying to get people to fuck up their games by attacking/killing an important NPC. Just back up your save before trying it yourself if you don't believe me.
Dodge through one and start beating on his face then try to stay relatively close to him.
We already knew you were autistic and don't feel bad hurting others with your autism
Senpai you do realize only Confederates get Vermin, right? Unless you can be a Cooperator with the rune unequipped to get Vermin.
Level 48 trying to rush through Living Failures/Maria, normally wouldn't be so hard if my build right now wasn't so shit, if you wanna help I'm ringing in front of Living Failures door and pass is bbg48
What bosses don't give them to the host and non-confederate co-opers?
Why not just make real friends that can actually care about you instead of 1s and 0s that can't even comprehend that you exist. If you honestly have feelings for her then you are sick and desperately in need of professional help.
>hitting someone in pvp for 430 damage with 99 ARC blacksky
>they visibly panic and start running away to enemies
>mfw can 2hko most ng+ enemies with blacksky as well
It's probably more to pretend she were real.
In any case, a pleasant person would shy away from attacking such an NPC for the sake of convenience.
>implying real friends will ever be as kind to you as the plain doll
It's all good, I'm honestly being shite with my damage output, I'm trying to do a full BLT/ARC build and all I've got right now is the Saw Cleaver with the single waning fire gem.
Outside of a few like the church sets and henryks, which nobody wears, nothing offers decent bolt defense. It's generally everybody's lowest defense type in pvp, which means it's the best damage type to have.
I find my arcane bolt saif/fire spear deal more damage than my quality build saif/spear even though the AR number doesn't represent it. My guess is probably the resist. Only good bolt gear is henryks i think.
I got this message months ago and I still haven't figured out what the fuck he was trying to say.
>mfw trying church pick on 99 ARC with like 675 pure lighting AR + 6% counter damage
>it deals like 430 damage per non-tricked non-counter r1 poke to most opponents
whos fucking bright idea was it to give bloodletter a long range dodge stab
If you've beaten Blood-Starved Beast, go back to the Cathedral Ward lamp. A passage has opened up on the right side.
And don't come back here until you've finished the game, to avoid spoilers.
So if im going pure STR, should I even bother upgrading LHB or should I ust stick with saw cleaver until i get my weapon?
Also would beast cutter be on par with cleaver? I heard its awful
DS1 on PC was far worse. I had people messaging me in foreign languages. Also half the friends I made were either Mexican, Portuguese or Japanese.
The Mexican bitched at me about blackouts in his area all the time. It was educational in a very weird way
micolash is so fucking gay. his bossfight is fucking retarded. im on NG+4, have full choir gear, damage reduction runes, +10% max health with 60 vit and if i get hit ONCE by his fucking call beyond im dead. 100%, 2000 damage from one hit. the second phase of his boss fight is fucking pure luck if you win or not based on if he feels like forcing you to lose or not.
Except that dodge stab is also incredibly fast. You keep pace with churck picks easily, and out-damage them in a trade.
Face it, the bloodletter has no real weaknesses. Against the very few weapons in the game with a better dodge attack, it can just use its R1s, which do have hyperarmor, to outtrade them.
Anyone with beast claws wan't to coop with me?
I want to get them ASAP for my new build. Im at Gascoine right now password is: "space"
Can I get some tips to help me kill the Orphan of Kos? I'm in NG+ and using the Whirligig saw and Kirkhammer, both at +10.
I can easily do his first phase, but his second phase wipes me out.
Some weapons have swings that are harder to interrupt, mostly big weapons
Think momentum, it's harder to interrupt a giant wheel coming at you which has high hyperarmor than a tiny dagger which has none
Some attacks have a period where they are resistant to stagger, meaning getting hit won't interrupt you.
There's several tiers of it, so a reiter R1 might not be able to interrupt a beastcutter R2, but a church pick L2 definitely will.
>summoning ng+ NPCs in Byrgenwerth to gank twinks
Wheeldash against a stream of blacksky eyes faggots.
The Rakuyo is best in PvP.
It means that you can tank a hit without being stagger while in the middle of an attack.
>im on NG+4
That was your first mistake.
Dodge behind him and poke him, then land a second and maybe 3rd r1 if you can keep him staggered.
Also fight the second phase in the water. Use the PC L2 on him when he call lightning.
This video might help you learn him moveset too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TJrw5gwx-o&feature=youtu.be
I really hate when enemies don't have to play by the same rules.
still need a cold abyssal with atk up vs open foes though
That's a little obvious anon.
But he moves around too much to constantly Lawnmower him.
Alright, I'll give it another shot with this method aswell.
Maybe I just suck at this game. Is there an easy way to Visceral his second phase?
Stay on him, be mindful of how narrowly you're trying to slip behind him otherwise you'll get caught. when he jumps roll in the opposite direction he was facing at the last second, don't roll or run away, roll under him. if he's spazzing out and you get hit your best bet is to dodge towards him on your recover. dunno what to tell you for the lightening move, the pizza cutter can stagger him alright so tanking the hit and hitting him with the saw for regain and stagger to give time for a vial was my method.
Good luck hunter
>drop my bell to help people with ludwig
>doing ok mostly, want to get used to having no fucking health
>2nd form still piss easy
>try him solo
>fucking up every dodge and eating piles of shit
Why am i so bad at accursed form
It's slow in both forms, consumes a lot of stamina and does really poor damage. The moveset is also pretty poor, particularly the dodge R1s and the transform attacks.
It has serration, which means it eventually does decent damage against beasts, but it's probably the worst serrated weapon in the game both in terms of dps, damage/staminacost/speed ratio and pvp viability
You don't need to constantly do anything. The pizza cutter nearly maxes out the beast meter with a simple 3 hit combo, all you need to do at that point is just poke him when he comes down and you'll pull 800-1000 AR with one hit.
Try to build the meter right before he enters kosms given: 0 mode if you want to play more cautiously.
Whirligig is only really good on STR build thanks to beast blood pellets. You will miss like 100 AR on arcane version compared to simple 50STR from what i remember as well. LHB only goes to like 800 AR on arcane builds compared to 1000 on physical ones.
Church pick is very good for arc build, but you still need to dump like 5 levels to get it.
Just R1 spam her.
Good, I don't know what I would do if /bbg/ two-timed me and started hating someone else on the side.
>Thanks anon. I find running to the entrance is a good enough way to avoid the lightning, although you miss out on free hits.
Just fight him in the water, genius. The lightning always starts at the body of Kos. If you fight in the water and look at the body, you can just casually walk around the lightning waves because of how spread out they are by the time they get out there.
Hello, /bbg/, I need some advice. I'm right before the Blood-Starved Beast fight, and I'm standing in front of Alfred's summon. If he dies during this fight, is he permanently dead?
Thanks again anon, you horrible little hunter.
Calm down mates I don't PvP I'm just a harmless old demons souls veteran who can't figure out these new cool kids PvP mechanics
Figured, thank god everything drops like 10k souls, I'll have 50 in no time.
>He didn't use the duping glitch back when the game was first released
Truly 1.00 to 1.01 were the glory days.
A google search confirms it did get patched along with the fix to getting into the dlc without purchase
>Vaguely remember some guy arguing that the claw glitch was intentional and not just a reoccurring multiplier glitch because it was in DaS too
Well atleast there's finally closure on that being wrong
Basically this. Don't try for a 2nd stat unless you;re willing to go up to 120, and don't bother with blt at all unless you're willing to go the full 50 with it.
90-100 is pure stat territory. You don't have the points for hybridity unless you're willing to seriously compromise your build's viability in the process.
Fc video is rendering as we speak, it ended up almost 20 fucking minutes but I think the fights are of lesser quality than some of the fcs in the past due to a lower attendance rate so rev up those builds next week familias
Oh, wow, thanks, that really clears it up. Wow, why don't I try to solo her for the fiftieth fucking time today? Don't be a cunt you fucking halfwit. Jesus, what do people not understand about some people just having trouble with some bosses, or areas in the game? Jesus fucking christ, thanks for taking time out of your day to tell me I'm not good.
I didn't use every fight with every person but the same people still pop up more often than any other fc just because they were popping up more often
also I played kinda iffy at some points but I kept the interesting losses to balance the scale, tho my winrate in the video is pretty accurate
>If he dies during this fight, is he permanently dead?
It's because I use a trip, and I am pretty arrogant. I am also a bit of an asshole when I get into PvP because I get super competitive. The only reason I am not like that now is because I don't really PvP much in BB. The people that hate me remember me from DaS1.
I would but 27 blood vials is a godsend and I need the +20% stamina to do 5 hits with the chikage
It's alright though, until I get more health it's hypermode time. Everything dies super quick but I do too, fun stuff.
I'm excited. FC was a lot of fun - can't wait to see the other cool fights that went on.
What are the damage numbers on a 50/50/50 HMS? Getting bored with my 117 triple quality build
When people tell you to git gud, they're not fucking with you. It'll help you in the long run to just nut up and learn the boss, instead of having to beg for help next time you come across a difficult situation.
>Don't be a cunt you fucking halfwit, I'm over here not understanding the meaning of irony
What weapon are you using? If you have the DLC, grab the Blacksky eye and plink away at its head until it breaks, then you will do triple damage to it. I can help with my ARC twink if you like.
Guys, how was my first invasion?
I felt a bit degenerate for having the NPC kill him but I didn't do it intentionally
Sure. Is it your first time? trying to go for all the items?
>tell someone not to be a cunt while being a cunt himself, whining and moaning and feeling entitled to not just beating a boss, but getting help to do so
Favorite line/set of dialogue?
Have you got a screw loose? Or is it just your, animal intuition
Oh the sweet blood.. etc.
also AWOOOO doesnt count
>Brainsucker as a boss
Don't tell me it shows up again.
Is an arcane playthrough any fun?
How different does it feel from a typical playthrough? I;m tempted to give it a shot because I want to try out hunter tools but if I'm just going to be blowing things up with saw cleaver R1 spam for half of the game again it's probably not worth the effort.
So how the fuck are you supposed to solo maria? I hit her, and she backs off. I can't deal enough damage to outlast her. When she hits me, it's usually a one shot. What the fuck am I supposed to do? When I go to parry, she attacks through it and kills me. When I try to shoot her non-parry, she dodges.
Saw spear has a better moveset tricked and deal serated damage while cleaver does not.
No, but they count as a root chalice and are usually right infront of the annoying boss guarding the actual root chalice like Loran Darkbeast and Ebi in the story dungeons.
Master, look! I've done it, I've done it! I smashed and pounded and grounded this rotten siren into fleshy pink pulp! There, you filthy monstrosity! What good's your immortality now! Try stirring up trouble in this sorry state! All mangled and twisted, with every inside on the outside, for all the world to see! He heh hah hah Hah! He heh heh ha ha haah!
31 is fine. He is just a crappily designed boss in general.
Yeah, unless you are playing an Arc character.
Serration in both forms
>dodge behind her and hit r1
Any of those wreck her tight little ass
Despite how it looks, the vast majority of her attacks are actually very easy to dodge. Don't try to create distance, because her range is obscene during phase 2 and 3. Stick close, step through her attacks and punish them. Alternatively, learn parry timing.
Soon-to-be Executioner Iosefka wants YOU...
...to assist me through Cainhurst and killing the Martyr.
Man, fuck the SRRC. Is your beckoning message being displayed? If it is, I'm going to dig around for a character with the Defiled Chalice left so I can go into the dungeon directly.
>Receive a call beyond
>become touhou boss
I love this game
I will kill everyone with impossible danmaku
>doing SRRC co-op for the fuck of it
>summoned by Jen, help her kill a boss
>help a few other people
>Jen beckons again
>go up and emote
What the fuck? That caught me completely off-guard. What happened?
>tfw madara's whistle does 500 damage and daggerfags never see it coming
I haven't thought that much about it, I'm still technically on my first playthrough (on NG+2, just haven't discovered everything yet and don't want to look up guides on anything until I do), but I'd just like to be at a level where I can find as many people as possible. I just kind of assumed that making a PvP build would as simple as back in the good old days.
>eating yogurt with the separate fruit on top
>instantly think about "red jelly..."
Executioner. I've hit a vileblood before but it gave me a message about the PvP and turned me purple, this was different.
Huh. Why would someone have that shit equipped when summoning for co-op partners?
Nevermind, thought you said Unseen Village instead of Old Yharnam for some reason. I'm fucking retarded.
>ENB saying he doesn't have the urge to play BB anymore because his wife had a miscarriage
It was probably that exact item that did him in.
damn son, I'll probably never find all the dialogue in this fucking game
I'm on my third character and I still haven't found they for that fucking door in Cathedral Ward past the to brick enemies. I'm thinking about looking at a guide, but I don't want to give in.
10 more levels to go
Spend them on vit or strength?
Beast cutter build btw
There is no key and it can't ever be opened.
you're fucking with me right
Looks like my Phone screwed up her, sorry. Have some Micolash.
It seems to be a removed second way to get to the Cathedral Ward
I'd say at one point in time you could either kill Cleric Beast OR Gascoin to get there, but they removed it.
There is a key item that is very rare to be found in one of the chalices that is literally there just so you can get special dialouge with analise in cainhurst.
It's a ring that you use to propose marriage
Slow, mediocre moveset and unimpressive damage.
The game once again runs into that problem where fast weapons that take little stamina and slow weapons that take a lot of stamina do similar amounts of damage, while slow weapons are balanced around their damage output being a highlight. What's the point of tricking a boomhammer to do a 400 damage r1 when I can do 400 damage with a saif R1 and take 1/4 of the stamina while swinging twice as fast. What's the point in having hyperarmor on the beastcutter when it loses every trade anyways?
Don't get me wrong, you can have fun with it and pvp viability doesn't matter too much when you're invading people that can't even hurt you, but it's just plain not good. It's outclassed in pvp and pve by most of the weapons in the game.
Does the bow blade's arrows scale with skill and bloodtinge or just one of those? Which should I focus on for my build? I want those huge health chunks being taken off Ebrietas from the charged arrows
this PVP is fucking dogshit. i played probably 10 matches in a row and there wasn't a single fucking game where i wasn't taking damage from them hitting fucking air.
and of course half my attacks dont even fucking connect when they CLEARLY hit.
and everyone is a stun locking piece of fucking dogshit that will run and heal as soon as they are below 50%
this shit is so fucking cancer.
>I should also mention I'm ass at dodging his delayed jump
WUT? You literally, just turn around and sprint to the other side of the room. That's literally all you have to do.
just focus on tinge.
Is it me or does the Yahar'gul hood just go with everything?
So should I kill
Arriana's weird baby thing?
I already ate plenty of umbilical cord so idk, it makes kind of cute noises
>help rakuyo shitter host kill watchdog
>do the most damage by far
>he doesn't even gesture to me at all
>tfw closest I've gotten to matching hair color is 170/170/170
>Enter thread to check on the humble citizens of /bbg/
>Claimed by vileblood scum
taking out end lowers your mobility. It's not worth it for the 13 AR you would get by going to 50 BLT