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H-Games General #678

New Year edition

Welcome, this general is for the discussion of 2D/3D H-Games/ Eroge/ Nukige/ Hentai RPG/ Hentai Action Games. Some popular games like Corruption of Champions (CoC), Rance/Alicesoft, Monster Girl Quest, the Klub17 (search on /t/), and Artificial Academy 2 (/aa2g/) have their own generals already, so please post about them there instead!

Due to the demise of /vhg/, Violated Heroine is welcome to be discussed here.

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Previous thread:
>>126911864
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Games pending release:

>[KISS] カスタムメイド3D2+ (Custom Maid 3D 2+) - 2016/01/29
http://kisskiss.tv/cm3d2/plus/
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=881177
Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/beUHhu3i

>[裸足少女] らぶ撮りハレーション - 2016/01/29
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=861010
http://hadashi.product.co.jp/lovedori/

>[ninetail] GEARS of DRAGOON 2 ~黎明のフラグメンツ~ (GEARS of DRAGOON 2 -Reimei no Fragment-) - 2016/01/29
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=865112
http://ninetailDOTtk/tn05/GEARSofDRAGOON2.html

>[BISHOP] 放課後3 ~狙われた純潔~ - 2016/02/26
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=878751
http://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/hkg3/index.html

Games recently released:

>[B-LUSTER] 褐色団地へようこそ - 2015/10/30
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=873016
http://b-luster.com/brown/

>[DWARFSOFT] 貞操観念ZERO ~ヤリマン家族とハメ狂い夏休み~ (Teisou Kannen ZERO ~Yariman Kazoku to Hame Kurui Natsuyasumi~) - 2015/11/13
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=876618
http://www.orcsoft.jp/drf002/
Download: https://mega.nz/#!9U4xAABR!p0--y9E9a0MFG1-e0oHpsHOHS6Jgxlc9eYGHSIfgEDg
Launcher: https://mega.nz/#!QUog3IgA!GCSpj193mMoCmXTR_9CtnA-wSJVCk8pS702N8-r2WmU

>[CLOCKUP] Maggot baits (マゴット ベイツ) - 2015/11/27
http://clockup.net/maggotbaits/index.html
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=867581
Download: https://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=1876791
Launcher: https://mega.nz/#!3YYw2TIA!JBJkGnQwYlOr9Grh7ukHNrTw9E4fvWz4_fWgufMlXNc
Serial: DC1GFY8533

>[WAFFLE] 巨乳ファンタジー3 (Kyonyuu Fantasy 3) - 2015/12/11
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=873203
http://www.waffle1999.com/game/61kyonyu3/
Download: http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=1889860

>[Softhouse Chara] その古城に勇者砲あり! (Sono kojō ni yūsha-hō ari!) - 2015/12/18
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=872037
http://shchara.co.jp/04develop/yuusha/0top.html
Download: https://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=1891916
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Happy new year and all that
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New year. new games.
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I cant fucking believe there are people on 4chan that talk fucking hentai games (which aren't even good) in a serious manner. Most Hentai games are awful and are worthless only if you are horny, which is why I dislike them so much. Seriously, regular ass hentai is forty times better than hentai games. Why make yourself suffer through a shitty, soulless game just to get quick sexual gratification. Its pointless
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>>127099726
3rd for more h-games this 2016.
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>>127098146
Sneak in Desperada. It's pretty entertaining if you liked games like Asagi
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It seems a lot of otherwise straight h-games include a single trap in them. Of course due their nature, the trap paired with the main character is pretty much always male/male.

But I'm curious, do other variants exist?

I'm wondering if an Otome game (Female protagonist, male targets) with a reverse trap/yuri scene exists.

Or a straight scene with a reverse trap in an otherwise yaoi game.
Or a straight scene with a regular trap in an otherwise yuri game (Closest I can think of is Maria Holic, and that's not hentai, or games where the main character is a trap.)

I've seen reverse traps in games before, but those were still in mostly/completely straight games.
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>>127099824
>wonder what awaits us
Rune's Pharmacy, Otome Function, dnp, a finished vh
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>>127099943
Because it's not for instant gratification but a challenge to overcome. And let's be honest here. Hgames have far better gameplay than real sex.
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>>127099943
This is some great pasta, okawari please.
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>>127100439
we must wait for more.
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>>127100418
>I've seen reverse traps in games before, but those were still in mostly/completely straight games.
Yeah because fucking a woman wearing trousers is still straight. Why would you put them in a gay game?
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Organizing 50 some h-games into that DL site manager is a pain but it's all going to be worth it.
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>>127100697
By that logic, there should never be traps in straight games.
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>>127100821
Do you actually play those 50 games? I was once a hoarder like you having hundreds of games on my hdd but then I realized that I only replay a very small part of them so I'm only keeping the ones that are actually being used and deleted the rest.
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>>127100418
I was going to say that there are definitely stuff like that, but I can't actually think of any examples. Seems like you've got a hard to find fetish anon, I'm glad I prefer futaxtrap/trapxtrap/malextrap. I wish trapxtrap wasn't so rare.

Speaking of which, らぶきゅばす! ~おんなのこあくまおとこのこあくま~ upload when?
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>>127101018
I haven't played most of them yet in the first place. I will delete games I finish and don't intend to go back to.
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Any idea why RJ149188 was taken down from DL site?
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>>127100830
No because most straight otakus and weebshits are sexually disturbed individuals. There's a reason why the "n-no homo" meme exist but no "n-no hetero" meme in gay forums.
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>>127101245
Even from anime sharing?
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>>127097706
where'd you get that info
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>>127101157
Good
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>>127101505
No, from DL site
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>>127101245
Who knows. Maybe the dev just removed it itself?
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>lurk around h-game devs and related boards
>almost everyone wants more rpgs or sims with consensual sex
why does no one want good, old-fashioned RoR anymore?
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>>127101564
From anons. Really though it's just a cheap onahole with connection to the pc so your hip movement equals that of the player character. It's a stupid gimmick and nothing more.
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>>127101620
Yeah I misunderstand your original post.
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>>127101802
>almost everyone wants consensual sex
I heavily doubt that. RoR is too stressful for me though.
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>>127101245
either they got a c&d from a compamy or they used assets from another game
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>New, blind run of CoC
>Go Exploring
>High level encouter
>Casually click "Leave"
It's so nonchalant it's comedic

Anyway I'm new here and I don't want to blog post, do you guys just jerk off in here or are there some actually pretty fun RPGs dedicated to porn and shit? CoC is actually fairly enjoyable so far, aside from the shit luck on some consumables
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Took 1 hour to organize all H games, mainly because I had extracted 1/4 of the games and wasn't sure if I had deleted the original archives so I had to individually go through each game, check RJ number, etc etc. Ultimately, super glad I did though, this thing is hella convenient, since I can actually tell which games are the ones I was really interested in, as opposed to just a wall of RJ#### archives.
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>>127102259
Some are really fun. Like maidensnow eve is a really enjoyable roguelike.
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>>127102259
i only really come here every now and then when other generals are slow or dead. not really a fan of any of the h-rpgs
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>>127102680
Not even kamidori?
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>>127102259
NAEDOKO
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>>127100439
You forgot noika
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>>127102861
dont know what that is
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>>127017089
>this one was comissioned
Didn't know m1zuki does accept comissions.
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>>127103194
>mfw kyrieru delays it till 2017 or abandons it
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>>127103354
>Not knowing kamidori
Okay. It's a fire emblem like srpg. The porn kicks in really late but otherwise pretty good.
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>>127102259
There is surprisingly little jerking off here sadly, considering the topic and what type of people enjoy/discuss it. It's pretty dead usually except for when a few people get in a discussion.

Violated Heroine has spoiled all other RPG games for me, but there are lots of other types of good games depending on fetishes.

Any posts about anything hgames should be fine, hell people were comparing dicks last thread.
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>>127103581
>abandons it
Makes sense considering his weekly animation thing makes him probably more money.
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>>127103625
>fire emblem
dont know what that is
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>>127103728
what are you doing here, grandpa
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>>127103728
Do you even play games to begin with? Go grab yourself an emulator and try it.
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>>127103634
>There is surprisingly little jerking off here
I imagine we're all furiously masturbating, we just aren't really talking about it
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>>127103718
and yet he couldnt do that on schedule either due to "feature creep"
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>>127103581
That line would be perfect if the actor was Charlie Sheen.
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>that feel when CG but no upload
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>>127103825
didnt realize 27 was old

>>127103829
yes i do. what system was fire emblem on?
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Any games that does a good job of striking your favorite fetish, anons?
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>>127104325
Everything Bishop. They're literally 1:1 to my fetishes and it's incredible.
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>>127104325
Parasite in City
zombies
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>>127104375
Bishop games are pretty nice, true.

For me it has to be this game by Silky's Sakura, mostly because the girl look so happy being impregnated and enslaved to the protagonist. Happy sex slaves (that aren't mind broken to uselessness) is my favorite fetish.
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Here's a question: What are some good games that punish you with NTR/Heroine Rape for doing poorly (and you play as a male character). It's kind of more enjoyable to be able to let it happen rather than it always occuring no matter what you do.

Some games that I enjoyed that fall under this are
Oyako Rankan - https://vndb.org/v10732
Makenshi Leane - https://vndb.org/v12101
Make Me Lover Darkness (kinda) - https://vndb.org/v13060

I've been using VNDB to look for other titles but if anyone knows some of some games from other places like dlsite that would be cool. Not sure if there are any games with female protagonists that achieve the same effect but I wouldn't be opposed to it. The more gameplay the better.
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>>127103825
>forgetting that fire emblem was a famicom game
fucking newbie
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>>127103875
>Most anons replying to posts here are pants-down and fapping
Lewd. 2-3 hours in edging to sunrise here while playing random games in my folder.

>>127104325
Asa kara Zusshiri Milkpot SPECIAL ~ Machijuu de Kakure Senzuri ni Muchuu ni Nacchau Futanarikko Sneaking Action Game ~

Fun little stealth-masturbation game, jerking off in public places is one of my favorite fetishes.
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>>127104938
is that a ninja desu.
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hey anon that wanted to buy shit in the past thread if you're still with us can you buy and upload
RJ144379?
http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ144379.html
thanks in advance anon
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>>127105113
I cant remember 95% of my childhood. This includes most of the vidya.
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>>127105089
Dont recommend Make me Lover (Or the Darkness expansion) to anyone. The whole thing is just god awful.
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>>127100439
>Otome Function
I wish. Wonder if it'll live up to the hype. I mean, it's going to be a fucking flash game released in 2016.
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>>127105509
I know it's super repetitive and the customizable heroine's VA is super annoying and low quality for some reason.
I used a full save after a while because there a shitload of scenes which are okay but I can't imagine playing through that game for that long to get them all. also you can give your waifu armpit hair
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What games have delicious brown elves
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>>127105681
>spoiler box

I had no interest in that before, but now you went and piqued my interest.
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>>127099726
>NY Ingrid

I didn't know someone ripped her already.
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>>127105931
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>>127105993
If you decide to bother with it, you may just want to get a full save because the rest of the game isn't that interesting. You get to make your own waifu character and the rest of the game is switching off between building a town and defending that town when it gets raided.

There's another route where you corrupt your waifu as the bad guys and you send people off to raid stuff instead. It's all pretty repetitive and none of it is really interesting to keep you engaged, so I would recommend getting a full save and viewing the scenes with the custom girl you make.

Also you get to choose between a loli, regular, and milf bodytype so that's kinda neat too (except they all have the same VA which I don't really like that much).
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>>127100087
>That battle-sex looks interesting
>Only has CG up on nyaa
>ULMF Mega keeps stalling at 99%
I can never get too far into RPGs without just going to the cgs anyway.
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>>127104325
CoC so far
ANYTHING Transformation gets me rock solid
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>>127104325
Bondage being a gameplay effecting status, so Asagi and now Sneak in Desperada.

Although that one part in Dungeons and Prisoners did it best, with the blindfold and all. Maybe this will be the year that it will be released?
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>>127102259
There's a porn game of Command and Conquer?
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Does Super 117 include the girls from 101?
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Any decent games where you play the rapist? Getting a bit tired of the MC getting raped.
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>Thread goes quiet all of a sudden
Did everyone already get done? Hope the thread doesn't die during the drought for the next couple of days.

>>127108096
Game that came out recently, ChronosGate, lets you stop time and whip out your futa dick to fuck girls and then resume time to make them ahegao as they geyser out semen. Movement sucks ass though, but its worth it.
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>>127108313
nah, i'm still here. just busy practicing low poly modeling
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>>127107748
No
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>>127108313
Just woke up anon, have a best girl
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CM3D2 cumulative DLC install
https://mega.nz/#!SY8khDqL!6ZbsygqkQqzgEirYvPPx8U6xLsSnEEvRZ6OoYZ_gGCU

>what's inside
・Shop order bonus 01: Ordinary Maid
・Shop order bonus 02: Gothic Lace Dress
・Shop order bonus 04: Military One Piece
・Shop order bonus 05: Teacher Uniform
・Shop order bonus 06: Exotic Dancer
・Shop order bonus 07: Garter Stocking
・Shop order bonus 08: Captivating Bustier
・Shop order bonus 09: Front Zip Swimsuit
・Shop order bonus 10: Bare Ribbon
・Tokyo Big Sight Bonus (Medal Necklace)
・Sixteen Bonus (Nao T-Shirt + Drill accessory)
・DL Site original mascot Set
・Custom Maid 3D 2 Visual Pack #01
・Yandere launch set
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>>127108313
It's precisely when so many games get released that the thread slows down thanks to everyone being too busy to fap

>Hope the thread doesn't die during the drought for the next couple of days
I hope there will be no draught because I want that one trap sidesctoller by the depravia dev to be released in the next days.
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Happy new year to everyone here too
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>>127109302
What are the chances that dual tail's new game comes out this year.
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>>127109302
>No monkey illustration

Mildly disappointed.
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>>127109368
Pretty high. Unless they're going for consecutive Ninetail's release, which is unlikely.
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>>127099930
Hopefully also one by may-be soft.
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>>127108685
>Masturbating while others practice useful skills
Have fun anon

>>127109094
Good Morning, brown girls are made for inseminating

>>127109220
Aw yes, the main character is so damn cute. I've been waiting to play it for so long, I think I'm going to try holding out until it releases.
>Inb4 another month delay
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>>127109719
lol maybe in three years
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>>127109368
Well Gears of Dragoon 2 is out this month, and Onikage has been working on something and has teased quite bit about it, so that will be most likely released somewhere this year, although it might not be Dual-tail title. With luck we might get new VB near the christmass or early next year.

>>127109480
There's usually few years between the nine-tail releases, unles the oni-project is nine-tail title.
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>>127107310
Dude, most of the cast were porn actors. It would actually be plausable. And Yuri's mind control abilities could be used for some nice ntr.
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>>127109830
>porn actors
Wait what? For real?
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Ne, Anon-kun, you won't be lewd this year right?
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Are there any games like real life, where you toil and toil away for an endless amount of time and never get any pay off?

Happy New Years everyone.
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>>127109891
too late
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>>127109891
Already started
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>>127109879
Yes. Don't ask me in which ones though.
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Are there any other games on the level of Starless? Its hard to find good femdom like this
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>>127109719
who knows.
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>>127110356
>level of Starless
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>>127110543
Come on son, don't do this.
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>>127110356
>good femdom
Oxymoron if I've ever seen one
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>>127110356
DominancE.
It's literally just Starless in space.
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>>127110356
Bible Black and and Discipline? Though they aren't as femdomy.
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>>127110035
Oh fuck that guy
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>>127110579
監獄女王 ~ドS女看守達によるM男化調教~
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>>127110356
Empress has some more games with femdom like Dominance and Lewdness but I don't think they are translated. The dieselmine Yusha games are all femdom and a few are translated I think.
>Game-over rape game
>Lose to Werewolf first time on purpose
>Laughs and lets you through the gate
>Actually have to beat her in the fight to recieve the hot wolf dickings
Surprised me.
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>>127110878
>femdom
>Lewdness
Anon
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>>127110897
Haven't actually played it, just saw that it had a femdom tag. I assume most Empress stuff at least has a little femdom though
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>>127111074
>just saw that it had a femdom tag
It doesn't. Lewdness is maledom, with a female protagonist.
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Can you not modify lip color in CM3D2?
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I want to play a lewd girl who enjoys sex. Futa is a plus. English isn't necessary. What's there besides VH and pic related?
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>>127111201
There's a lipstick option, but that's it.
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>>127104325
Almost fucking nothing. I just want loli mindbreaking rape with good art, but it's so difficult to find. Only VH and Dark Lord have gotten it right for me.
I'm hoping loli Mikami will save me.
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>>127111361
I can't believe I made 22 maids and played for 500 days without realizing there was no lip color changer.
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>>127104325
Quite a few, but they're really degenerate fetishes.
Mostly stuff from Tinkerbell, Empress, and Sano Toshihide.
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Fucking not-rat.
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>>127111445
It's almost non-noticeable, anon.
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>>127111154
Whoops my mistake, I've been up browsing porn for near 24 hours now, everything is starting to blur together.

>>127111340
I'd high-five you for your good taste right now if I could, Dragon Bride and Erotic Eater are both great games with girls who have dicks. Also ChronosGate said up earlier, which is timestop futa.

I wish Mikami had the option of keeping her dick the whole game.
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List of nukige to add to catalog list when I get the chance.

Amakano ~ Season Two
Kasshoku Danchi e Youkoso
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>>127111549
Who?
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>>127110645
>>127110878
DominancE makes me so fucking hard just like Starless its a shame there isn't more like this
Yuusha looks like good stuff as well, any safe link to a game?
>>127110801
Can't find too much on this :(
>>127110686
I know ;_;
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Is there any complete guide for RePure Aria?
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>>127112002
Very cute, but no one important.
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>>127112002
forced meme.
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>>127112034
Usually I don't spoonfeed all the way, but if it makes your dick that hard I suppose I can help you out just a little anon. Here's the first Yuusha/Violated Hero game and the translation blog you can go for english patches.
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=363442

https://dargothtranslations.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/violated-hero-1/

You should be able to easily find the rest with that.
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>>127112037
There is a partial guide and some translated text guides which you may or may not still need that I saved from ULMF posters. Good luck on backtrack hell.

https://mega.nz/#!rE8lRQRD!DcUEZFq8L285va4k83WoOwgoNbio8DFL-eHMXMa6HHo
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>>127112037
Only in japanese and you are better off playing it without even if you know japanese.
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>>127112778
Thank you based anon, happy new year!
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>>127113136
Happy New Year to you too anon, hope the faps are nice for you. I have to finish the third and fourth game myself.
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>>127113013
Thanks. I haven't been to an ice stage yet and I've already passed the water one and fought Marriane. Will I screw up any content?

>>127113026
I just want to know how to trigger sex with all or most enemies.
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>>127113406
You can't screw up anything out of order that I'm aware. I do remember some ice place or some area around there that made me get lost for an eternity. Just kind of poke around and backtrack until you advance, and pray once you get to bookloli.

Most of the h-content is easy to activate, just stand around enemies until heart maxes out as the boy, some small amount of enemies do have yuri content with the girls though.

And of course there's the one item that lets you fap, and there are a few random scenes like with the shop keep girl if you jerk it to her.
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>>127113631
Does the scene with the shop keeper involves sex? I tried fapping to her and got some dialogue but after that nothing else happened can't even cum on her.
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>>127113909
Eventually she lets you fap to a doll of herself or something, but she cockblocks you from any sex I'm pretty sure unless an update changed something.
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>>127113386
I'll have t b h with you anon, I just saved your comment, I plan on watching no kind of porn starting with this year and nofap, but I got your stuff in case I lose control.
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>>127112778
I remember playing those games and just quitting because they were so dull. such a shame to miss monster girls content like that.

I guess I really, really don'T find femdom arousing
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>>127099726
Why is she so perfect?
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>>127105324
Funny that you are bringing it up now because I just realized yesterday that this actually exists.
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>>127114317
Because she's a good rape bait.
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>>127114317
She's no Oboro though.
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Murasaki is a good girl.
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>>127114317
>>127115202
tfw they won't be in Zero
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Please tell me there's a way to increase resolution in rondo duo
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>>127110035
What game is that?
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>>127115319
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>>127115543
>french
where does this come from?
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>>127114151
Nofap sounds awful, you should really consider losing control and jerking off as soon as possible anon. I can help out personally if you can't quite get off alone. I'd like to know how it went when you give in shortly after starting.

>>127114463
The cum-stains on your screen were a great effect.
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>>127115960
Just a TA3 Background
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>>127115431
Join the waiting club.
http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/announce/=/product_id/RJ156210.html
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>>127104325
Sansha Mendan.
Mindbreak, Oyakodon, Shimaidon, pregnant sex, and a lot of focus on group scenes.
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>>127109146
holy shit this is exactly what i wanted - thanks m8
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>>127116014
Yes..please help me
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>>127114216
iktf
I love monstergirls, but femdom bores me. Such an awful combination of tastes.
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>>127117018
Sorry to disappoint you anon, I'd love to get into it and hear the fap details because I'm a pervert, but I'm actually a boy. I can't really get into the whole ERP role well. I've had a lot of fun discussing porn and helping people out during the lewd new year though. I am flattered though.
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>>127115202
Who is Oboro?
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>>127117947
My personal belonging.
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>>127117947
My waifu.
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Anybody think of any games they want bought from dlsite that have been out for a while with no purchases?

Got about 1,000yen for dlsite can add more to that if needed.
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>>127118738
>>127118930
She seems to be popular. What's so good about her?
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>>127119086
I want to protect her smile!
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Is Kimochi safe/good?
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>>127118972
see
>>127105391

Though I only realize how fucking expensive it is so only if you want to play it too. Otherwise I'd feel bad.
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Is there a download link for RJ144379 yet?
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>>127119356
No. That's why the above poster begs for it.
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>>127105391
>>127119327

https://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=1868663

This game has been up for a while.
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>>127118972
I've been searching for this in a while. http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ121244.html

I think it was purchased and uploaded years ago but the few links I found are all dead.
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>>127119581

NewDragon uploaded it too.

https://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=1019279

I'll leave a comment on his torrent to see if he can upload the latest edition.
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>>127119086
Nothing, She's a needy shit, who'll gets sympathy fucks when she begs drooling on the shaft of anon's dick.
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>>127119581
>>127119656
It's not the most recent version that's been uploaded. I take that as non interest in it? Then let it be.

>>127119603
Fair warning. The nips are normally pretty accurate with their yellow smiley. Haven't played any game with one that was actually good.
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>>127119762
Don't talk about my waifu like this, homo.
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>>127119229
It's decent I guess. Acceptle dl speeds and easy to you. To security the maker says
>Security, we do not store any personal information whatsoever, so if our servers are ever compromised, your email, username, password, credit card number, etc. are all safe.
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>>127119883
You can't have an account without them saving something
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>>127119968
I am tech iliterate. I'm just saying what they said.
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>>127109146
Thanks. That makes things easier in the future.
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>>127120360
And I tell you it's bulLshit
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https://kat.cr/action-%E4%B8%83%E8%8D%89%E5%A0%82-super-117-%E5%B8%B0%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E3%81%8D%E3%81%9F%E5%A4%A9%E6%B0%97%E4%BA%88%E5%A0%B1-seven-herbs-temple-the-weather-forecast-that-super-117-came-back-ver-1-03-jap-t9934497.html
Is this one legit?
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>>127120469
Okay, then forget it. It's the only thing I know about their security.
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>>127120687
That's ver 1.03. We are waiting for ver 1.05. It's probably legit but for that you can also grab the nyaa links.
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>>127120840
What's the change in 1.05? New characters?
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>>127120687

Read the thread you bwaka. We already got that.
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>>127120879
Yes, it adds Konata and some doujin character none knows named beta.
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>>127119772
Yeah, it's probably shit. Still caters to some of my fetishes so I don't really care. I have played bad games before and still enjoyed it.
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>>127117151
Isn't ROBF pretty low on the femdom side?
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>>127121125
Oh shit, I downloaded the translated version a few days ago and then forgot about it now that you mention it.
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>>127115425
Don't think so
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So, taba's event is special tickets that allow you to get random cards from previous events.
Maybe I'll get wedding Aina.
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Is there any way to customize the customers in CM3D2 like you can yourself? I absolutely require them to all be fat middle age ojisans. I think you could do it back when xmlify was actually updated, but I don't know if any save editors still let you do that.
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>>127110878
Which one is that image from?
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>>127123702
2nd, Okasare Yuusha Ⅱ ~Yuusha na no ni, Chinchin wo Pikupiku Sarete Bakari no Boku...~

It's kind of disappointing you never actually see her penis, wonder if it's like some weird barbed thing.
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>>127123973
she's a wolf, no? Dog dicks aren't barbed, you're thinking of cats.
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Is CM3D2+ out again?
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>>127124285
First post of the thread. Read it
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>>127124285
not yet
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>>127123019
I don't know with mods but at least eithout I can tell you you can't.
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>>127124119
Oh yea, animals dicks aren't my thing I guess, I just prefer normal dicks. I still googled it anyway, curiosity at work.
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>>127124364
>>127124387
Sorry, thanks.
CM3D2 was the only good game last year for me, I don't have much hope for 2016
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>CM3D2 translation never
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>>127124524
There's always VQ2 for 2016 winter
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>>127110262

Even Micheal Ironside?
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>>127124845
It's New Years, anon. Time to learn Japanese already.
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>>127124845
>>127125836
This

It's actually not that hard, just takes a fuckload of time
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>>127126145
>just takes a fuckload of time
If you want to play custom maid 3d2, not really. I could understand stupid hentai games within a few months.

The thing that I thing puts people off is that they think studying Japanese is literally putting your nose in a textbook and studying for hours like it's fuckin' Calculus. It's not; you can do a lot of the same shit you usually do and study from those. Get a dictionary, and go read something you want to read.
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>>127126357
>Get a dictionary, and go read something you want to read.

While that might allow you to understand things, it's not fun at all
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>>127115319
I like her special ability. Really fits having a futa cock good.
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>>127126903
Life's full of not fun things. Like working.
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>>127124864
I seriously hope it doesn't take that long.
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Super 117 v1.05

https://mega.nz/#!ZlEkCLza!huvB4xTz6kdZ3jkJUmWpP4Ob1_Be5trL4mwTu0hF4Zo
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>>127128195
Thanks mate
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>>127123019
>>127124461
I got this to work, in case anyone is wondering.

Use this save editor: http://mainvirtualizer.github.io/CM3D2Editor/

use "save json", then look for the first 3 instances of "Hara", change the "value" to the level of fat you want (I used 193).

There should also be a way to change their hair / color, but that'll take me a little more time to figure out because the males use the exact same settings as the maids, the values are just assigned to different things. Lazy bastards.
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>>127116326
Group as in multiple males on a female or multiple females for the mc? Was thinking about playing this one next without actually looking at the cg prehand
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>>127128195
Works fine. Yay
Seems there will be another update in the future.
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>>127128195
thx
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>>127104325
Still no good Forced Feminization game. Trap Quest is shit.
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>>127130045
>Forced Feminization game.
Those who don't want feminization wouldn't play it, and those who would play it wouldn't have to be forced.
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>>127129182
Multiple females for the mc.
From threesomes to the whole 6 heroine group at the same time.
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Is there a link to the TABA scene viewer anywhere?
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>>127131352
Nyaa
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>>127130230
CoC is mostly played by straight people and it has feminization so you are wrong.
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>>127131568
It also has practically open-source writing (i.e. if you're ok at writing you can write scenes to be added) so that's fairly different from commercial one-off works made by 1-2 people
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>>127131568
CoC players want their character to be transformed.
Unless they try to avoid it, which is also possible.
Where's the forced transformation in CoC?
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>>127131660
> open source writing
Couple of years ago content added by vote from donators aside from content that went in because authors were chummy with Fen.
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>>127115379
>mfw no loose hair Murasaki
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>>127131568
>CoC is mostly played by straight people

I just want to play a futa who has a masturbation and ejaculation addiction but such content is terribly lacking.
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>>127132201
why are pouting/sulking ninjas so cute?
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>>127104325
Orcsoft for slut, Autobahn for MILF, Bishop for rape/mindbreak with pregnancy and VENUS for netorare.
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>>127132136
Now that he's earning money by making shittier CoC in space, he pretty much cut off all new and incomplete content from the final game.

If you're arguing that you can make your own CoC from base CoC game, then good luck. From what was gathered, Fen's coding skills are less than optimal. One person who tried build a branch of CoC gave up after reading it. It could be better now but I doubt it.
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>>127099726
Hey Hgg I'm just wondering where you can freely download vns because I was wanting to play "Silicon Magic ~Umareru Mae Kara Anata Senyou?!~ " but I don't know where to get it.
Can you please help a poor anon out, to get into h games?
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>>127132546
This should really be in the newcomers guide pastebin
And it actually is.
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>>127132546
Newcomer guide has a few links. Basically for vns you check lewd nyaa.
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>>127132517
>Orcsoft for slut
Good taste. I still find myself thinking of pic related, all this time later.
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Is there something good coming in the next few months? Or at least being translated at a good pace?
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>>127132546
I'll just cut the middle man because I'm lazy.

http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=126303

Tamiyasu Tomoe, Misono Mei, and Ogura Yui are in this one.
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>>127132907
Rune pharmacy will be good if it ever comes out.
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>>127132907
This one>>127116238
Also Gears of Dragoon 2

>transation
RJ132365 was translated yestersday if you haven't noticed.
Lilitales translation is at a good pace going.
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>>127132907
>>127133758
Oh, and I forget there's a new ROBF coming out next month.

>>127133623
That is still announced for april so not raelly in close proximity.
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>>127132862
Aniki no yomesan, classic.
I remember the first blowjob scene of Shizuka and it was awesome as expected from Sakaki Haruno she's great.
Chinbotsu art is really good too and it's a shame that he worked on only one eroge.
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>>127111370
> enjoyed fucking a STD ridden guard, rape trained by the prisoners in Medieval Jail, fucked by a Zombie
> Non canon but gets off from exploding babies in her womb
> Mindbroken

You should look at something else
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>>127134819
Is she a witch?
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>>127132862
Does she start out as a slut?
That game has been sitting on my hard drive for a while and I will play it soon, but I was under the impression it more fo a moral degeneration/mindbreak kind of game.
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>>127134819
The whole STD thing would be more of an issue if she was human. But since she's an elf and literally anti-STD's it's actually not only okay to fuck her but good to because she'd cure you too.
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>>127135548
It's pretty hot. She's unsatisfied with her husband in bed, so she joins a website for cheating. She gets a match, they chat, he convinces her to fuck him and cheat on her husband (logic is like, if you let yourself be sexually unsatisfied, it'll hurt your marriage). They meet up at a love hotel... and surprise, by chance, she matches up with MC, her nephew in law. Slutiness exposed.

That's the opening to the game. What happens next should be obvious. I don't think spoiler tags are necessary but I used them just ni case.
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>>127135926
I see, thanks.
Sounds pretty good indeed.
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so I finally got around to playing the naedoko's demon ground, how long does it take to reach futa content? I'd be ok with monsex too, but this circle draws monsters way too cartoony, they just look silly
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Stupid hypothetical: Would a mix of CoC and Dark Souls be fun?
>Instead of corruption it's the loss of humanity
>Fap to the depressing, dying world you're in
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>>127136921
>Giant 3D world full of grotescue monsters
>If you lose to a boss you get raped by it and become more monster yourself
If there was a giant tentacle boss i dont think i would be able to get past that point because reasons.
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>>127136921
What would be the fun in getting raped on death? I wouldn't play such a game out of fear for my ass.
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Considering this thread was huge on violated hero today the 6th entry was announced tosday.
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>>127136921
if it has monster grills yes
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>CMD32+ will introduce a new VIP event called "bride play"

I bet it's fucking NTR. I hate KISS.
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>>127136847
There should be a scene fairly early on but this game is kinda weak on the futa. It's really more focused on tentacles and other monster stuff.
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>>127138346
Of course it will be, gotta get all the money of the cucks.
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>>127138346
Why are the Japanese so fascinated with cock holding lately? It's such a horrible trend.

Is Op's card ripped yet?
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>>127138232
RIP dargoth
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What games have good, heavy gameplay with light amounts of H? Or the H is a bonus to good gameplay or story.

I enjoy playing games like this.
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>>127138346
you really wanna end up like your uncle?
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>>127138524
>>127138545
>wedding dress costume
>wedding band
>no event to marry you maid

But I know that those fuckers will add a NTR event.
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>>127138576
Eushully games like Ikusa Megami. Or Baldr games.
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>>127138545
Why do you care what other people like? Go play something else if you're that bothered with it.
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>>127138757
I have no idea how he managed to almost bankrupt the club. It's piss easy to make money in the game and the maids apparently work for free.
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>>127138991
Maybe he had enough of the NTR shit and just said fuck it
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>>127138346
So? KISS is a NTR-focused company. You're playing an NTR/prostitution game and bitch about NTR and prostitution content.
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>>127138576
>>127138881
RPGs - Brave Soul, Bunny Black, Kamidori, Utawarerumono, Words Worth, Raidy
Strategies - Sengoku Rance, Daibanchou, Koihime Musou

And if you know japanese, look for stuff by Alicesoft and Eushully.
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>>127139132
There's plenty of material to satisfy everyone, just let me marry one maid and then let me decide if I want to get cucked or not.
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>>127139475

Why would you play a game where the objective is to whore women out and then get mad and "cucked" that women in the game are whores out?
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>>127139475
and thats how they will implement it, most likely
And then you'll be NTRing your wife by fucking other maids. Double standards
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>>127139726
>women in the game are whores
man I wish
There's still no content where they would degrade completely and admit they like fucking strangers for money
Its all complaints and hopes that it ends quick
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>>127139726
It gives me the chance to create sluts and personal maids, so why not?
>>127139774
I hope so
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>>127138576
ボクの奴隷娼館

>>127139348
>Koihime Musou
I otherwise agree but this one isn't particulary gameplay heavy.
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>>127138346
>>127138545
>>127139132
>>127139774
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And now NTR killed the thread.
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>>127141198
I used to hate NTR as well but with time the psychological barrier of repulsion wore down and I became neutral to it. I'll probably grow to like it within a few years.
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>>127143735
Congratulations
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I don't think anyone knows what NTR really means. The key word is "torare".
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>>127110035
what game?
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>>127144526
I sure hope you feel like a piece of shit.
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>>127143837
There's still that small voice inside screaming about the importance of dignity and self respect but it's getting weaker with every new acquired fetish.
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>tfw /hgg2d/ died
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>>127144736
Cool
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>>127144736
Unsurprising.
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>>127144594
pls dont cry anon~kun. i swear i just play games :~~
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>>127144526
You just have to read the reply stupid
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Give me your favorite game no one talks about, mine is http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ141649.html
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>>127145491
That's been talked about when it was new
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>>127145491
Human Pig Breeder! by ORCSOFT
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>>127145604
But sadly there is nothing to talk about any more, because the developer is dead..
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>>127145761
Literally?
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>>127145491
That one was huge business when it came out. Too bad they haven't announced something else.

For me it's all titles by https://vndb.org/p1202
Also RJ093966 I found enjoyable but no one talks about it ever.
You can probbaly use a lot of older games.
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>>127145993
Who knows, but they stopped making shit a long time ago
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>>127145993
We are all going to die someday so what's the difference?
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>>127146058
Which of the magical girl games do you recommend the most? Why do no one seem to play them?
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>>127128195
Thanks Anon.
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>>127146058
Some of them are a bitch to find now, being on megaupload and other now dead webhosts.
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>>127144736
>There's nowhere to discuss h-games because /hgg2d/ keeps dying
>mfw
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>>127146401
The four 純聖天使 titles I guess.

>Why do no one seem to play them?
Actually really don't know. Maybe that weird board gameplay is too much gameplay for the vn faction but not enough for the non vn faction?
And as another anon said finding links is difficult as fuck nowadays. Makes me mad that I didn't hoard them when I had them.
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>>127145723
Does that exist?
I don't see it.
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>>127147554
Just talk about them here
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>>127147554
How can it die when there´s a discussion going on?
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>>127147698
I just made that up.
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>>127147878
That explains why noone is talking about it.
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>>127147968
I bet you thought it was just too obscure and you haven't heard of it.
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>>127147727
A general that consists of VN circlejerks and constant meme posting doesn't really give off the vibe to try and discuss games.

>>127147798
It can halt. Same as what happens here from time to time.
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>>127147678
I like the character design og https://vndb.org/v4864
Is the game decent?
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>>127145723
>>127147878
tfw Orcsoft will never do a game similar to https://vndb.org/v18289
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>>127132862
how did I not instantly recognize that was by Chinbotsu, fucking hell.
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>>127148620
>I want to discuss games but I'll just complain instead.

And you don't know why your general keeps dying.
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just tried to play super 117

what the fuck is going on

Is there a pastebin?
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How do I get school events in
http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ153925.html
I keep walking around but never find anything
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>>127149752
The face?
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>>127149828
>complain
Ah, yeah, I guess I should just join the VN circlejerk in which I have no interest. The OP alone is a good indication.
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Give bad advice for whatever game you're currently playing

>CoC
If you get the option to talk to something, always attack it instead
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>>127150067
Just discuss a game you're playing or like or describe it or what it entails. It's not that hard. You might even generate interest for it!
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Anyone got a good vn with fun gameplay that contains in depth female knight(s)?
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>>127150067
Had you actually read these threads you'd know people talk about non-VN games pretty often.
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>>127150446
>in depth female knight(s)
?
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>>127150002
Not lewd enough? I'm sure talking to the rteacher should start something otherwise.
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>>127150498
Female knights that have som sort of story or in depth characterization storywise or via gameplay.
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>>127150498
What's wrong with exploring the depths of female knights?
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>>127149996
Press x and z to run and jump. Beat the girls to proceed to fuck them.
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>>127150679
not deep enough
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>>127150446
Lilipalace/ Lilitales?
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>>127151071

He said VN you fucking retarded jackass
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Finished ROBF, what should I play next?
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what is that machine translation working well with wolfrpg games?
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>>127151257
vndb lists it as vn so deal with it.

>>127151339
ROBFS4U
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>>127150446
>fun gameplay
I feel like this is asking too much.
It's hard for actual games to have fun gameplay, much less hgames. It's best to recognize you're playing these games just for porn. The best gameplay you'll find in h-games are the RPGs of Alice Soft. Everything else is a boring platformer or a awful rpg. Which are good mediums to convey porn, of course.
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>>127150446
Ikusa Megami Memoria, Himegari, Venus Blood Gaia&Abyss, Gears of Dragoon. Those are some that come to mind that kinda fit the criteria.
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>>127151427
vnr and ithvnr should all be working with wolfrpg games nowadays. No need for a specific version just for wolfrpg.
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>>127151636
Fuck the gameplay then, i'm ok with a normal VN
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>>127151636
>The best gameplay you'll find in h-games are the RPGs of Alice Soft
Baldr Sky >*
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>>127151636
Alicesfog fag go home, Eushully, Nine/Dual-tail, Softhouse-chara, Debonosu and Eternal all make worthwhile and fun gameplay eroges too besides Alicesoft.
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>>127151936
Baldr Sky is good too.
>>127152021
>Eushully
Not any more.
I realize now that my post reads like I'm saying Alice Soft is the only good gameplay VN developer, but no, I just thought of them as the best and so I wrote that. There are many good RPG developers.

Can't think of any non-RPG developers right now.
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>>127152021
You listing those developers reminds me how disappointed I was with KISS when "Make me Lover" came out.
When they said "RTS" I was so hyped to play an Age of Empires, or Star/Warcraft for an eroge.
Instead I just got an "AFK, defend the gate"
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>>127152274
Euhsully has been on downhill for while now but they are still far from bad still. Its mainly when they try something new that the tend to blunder, IM series is still damn good JRPGs and prefer them over Alicesoft stuff. Although evanicle was cool, and Alicesoft also makes hit and miss titles a lot due to them releasing several per year while Eushully is only 1 title per year which makes them seem more bad due to needing longer timespan for comparison. Also as far as eroge RPGs go by mechanics I probably prefer the Gears of Dragoon/Felshis system most, probably mainly due to challenge and fun mechanics.
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>>127151828
does the new chiitrans work with it?
> just checked the pastebin on machine translation
mfw: thought general opinion around was that people hated on VNR and now is the most recommended...
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>>127151636
>fun gameplay is hard to do
then i guess all those hgames with decent gameplay are fucking diamonds then
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>>127154042
Like what?
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>>127152021
>softhouse chara
Haha, no
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>>127153503
MT always sucked if you don't even know basics and Chii stopped getting updated.
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>>127154397
>MT always sucked if you don't even know basics
MT always sucks*
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>>127153503
chiitrans is pretty much kill.
vnr has a lot of bloat but it 's still the easiest to use and for those that don't like vnr there's ithvnr.
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>>127154104
Fairy Fighting
Parasite in City
Lab Still Alive
Kurovadis
Eroico
Toffisama's games
Powerful Sister
Nanocrisis
Hounds of the Blade
Demon's Sperm
Koooonsoft's Girl series
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>>127154683
None of those games have good or fun enough gameplay (except maybe Demon's Sperm) that I'd play them outside of a H context
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>>127151636
Bitches don't know shit about game design

How to make a simple RPG/Hgame good, t. Nodev:
>Base the actual gameplay it on a different genre
HuniePop is a good example of this. It could be anything from a casual-type game like Peggle, Bejeweled or whatever, or even a platformer, like Catherine.
Anything is fine, as long as it 1: Adds to the game and doesn't distract, and 2: Makes sense to have in the game.

>Do turnbased combat
Fucking simple right here, the only thing is that it takes actual game development to make this fun.
Basically, 1: Don't just make it basic attacks, give them some Pokemon like things, even if they're just melee, 2: Make progression meaningful, and 3: Variety is the spice of life, use dice rolls

>Use/Steal an actual RPG
Do the Fallout approach and base it on GURPS
The only downside to this is that you'll probably have to pay the owners of the system. Don't use D&D.

Like seriously, if I had a writer and an artist, I could make a Hgame, and I'm just a sweaty nodev faggot
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>>127150129
That's good advice though. Talking makes purple futa dicks penetrate your every orifice.
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>>127154683
forgot Unholy Sanctuary
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>>127150028
I suppose it was the whiteness and the lack of a visible dick.
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>>127155079
Sounds good
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>>127155079
>Talk to Drider
>Get webbed and raped
>Attack Drider
>Get webbed and poisoned, then raped
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>>127155009
>HuniePop is a good example
Stopped reading right there. Huniepop didn't even do the bejeweled mechanic right.
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>>127155986
I meant it as an example that everyone knows of
Blending Genres is an easy way to make a game both addictive and seemingly good, and falsely original
t. Nodev and person who hasn't actually played HuniePop
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>>127154682
so sane way is to use VNR alone...
how about which service, still the Atlas translator from pastenbin applies?

I used some webservices normally but its crappy
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>>127154683
I think you are the first person that praises Parasite in City for its outstanding gameplay. Koooonsoft's stuff belongs in a similar category. And toffisama just makes cheap games for yuri/futa lover and I respect him for that but his games aren't particulary great either. At least put something like Repure Aria, Barrage or Seinaru Monohe which had problems on its own but at least fairly playable. Heck, even bullet requiem plays better than a lot of the titles and damn did that one have problems itself.

Also fuck you for including powerful sister. Made me check dlsite when it comes out and it's put on undefined release date.
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>>127156380
The only reason Huniepop really got popular was for the whole concept, it itself is really literally just a bland newgrounds dating sim with gameplay that people paid for. The dev himself has no idea what he's doing, as evidenced with the sequel.
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>>127156614
ATLAS is okay
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>>127156720
>sequel
kek
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>>127156614
>>127156872
feuk...
Atlas is no longer available
> till december 2015
one day late, better way to get this -or- alternative?
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>>127150446
Holy Knight Olyana.

>>127155009
Bitch I'll write for you, my only condition is that there has to be at least one futa on male scene.
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>>127157262
there's a way around atlas in one of the vnr pastebins i'm pretty sure
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>>127157262
Just change your clock manually into something earlier to deceive atlas.
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cheer up nerds that one muchi school trip guy is releasing another game this month
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>>127157514
>>127157467
no actual download from site is unavailable:
>The ATLAS trial version is currently not available because it expires at the end of December 2015.
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>>127157716
https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=89984
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>>127157379
I'd probably have to write most of the non-porn shit cause if I did make an Hgame it'd be a fan game based on Warcraft, but having a trip to a Leigon-controlled world would be a good fucking setting for all kinds of debauchery
It'd probably be shit anyway, and I'm certain I wouldn't get any usable experience or money from it, unless those weird F-list people are into that
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>>127128195
what a way to start 2016
thanks based anon
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>>127156717
>Parasite in City
IMHO, i respect it moreso for it being clunky like an old resident evil game

>those other games
haven't played them so i cant comment

>fuck you for mentioning Powerful Sister
nigga if you checked his blog you would've known he started a new game
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>>127157576
Oh, it comes out this month alread? That's good to heart.

Also I hate literal translations of the title of a game. They sound nonsensical as fuck. Stop that.
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>>127138545

I agree. Just... why... and why is there so much of it? Why does anyone on the planet waste their time on this? Does it have something to do with youbrainonporn?

This ruins most hentai games for me.
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>>127158317
im on my phone and was too lazy to google the jap name and shit
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>>127158279
>nigga if you checked his blog you would've known he started a new game
No no no no! I was waiting nearly 3 years for it. He can't just fucking start a new project without finishing it.
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>>127158406
Currently Japan is having a breeding crisis
Young women are bitchy, and all the Young men are too beta to actually deal with women, and basically all Japanese people from 16-24 are hikikomori or betas. That's why there's a huge amount of dating sims, VN's, and fanservice anime/manga from Japan. Corporations are banking on pandering, and for anime, the animators are all otaku, so the producers can't make anything else.

As for the NTR shit, I honestly have no insight to this, maybe it has something to do with self-loathing or fantasy? I wouldn't know. Fucking hikikomori, man
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>>127158759
sadly, he can do whatever he wants. nobody is paying him to make the game.
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Ok, playing Netorare Imouto Misaki
VNR.... acting up not updating on several lines....
Atlas unavailable...
I'm fucked hgg...
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>>127159994
use ith and chiitrans
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>>127159994
If only you had learned japanese this wouldn't have happened.
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>>127160295
>Learning a soon to be dead language.
But why?
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>>127130403
thanks m8
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>>127160774
So you don't have to fuck with vnr.
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>>127160295
if only, mate, if only....
>>127160774
why?
>>127160159
using chitrans lite, going to install atlas fellow anon recommended >>127157931

install with pastebin steps, anything else?
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>>127159994
atlas is kill
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>>127161037
At least we still have world map
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>>127159961
>First he changes the clothes of the nun
>Then he just scrape the whole game and one can't do anything against it
I hate the free market.
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>>127159143
>Currently Japan is having a breeding crisis
True mate, I can attest to this...
several bitch girls waiting to be fucked but instead lots of betas...
when a alpha goes there he can plunder lots of spoils!
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>>127161437
Nice projection mate, Japan isn't like the eroge you keep playing.

Bitches are much more likely to ignore you
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>>127161975
I've been there and while I didn't score that much I had my share of good times..
However any guy with game will score well, as he will anywhere in the world...
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>>127161437
>>127162369
Stop with the ellipses.
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What's the difference between a VN and ADV on sukebei.nyaa ?
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>>127162553
...
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>>127162553
What....do...you.........mean........?
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>>127162553
>Stop with the ellipses.
just fucking why?
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>>127163184
>>127163182
>>127163115
...It... can't...be...helped...
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>>127162670
And 2.D.GF and SLG
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okay...
got chiitrans light to work,
installed atlas v14 cracked and etc...
hook seems to be working really well(fucking better than vnr)
however translation still errors: "remote server returned error (503) server unavailable"
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>>127163634
ops scrap that... had to select atlas from google...
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>>127162670
They're basically the same thing.
>>127163298
2dgf, and also girlcelly, is the release. SLG, ACT, ADV, RPG etc. are dlsite terms. Try reading the information on the page instead of just clicking the download button.
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>>127160774
It won't be dead during your lifespan, so whatever.
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okay chiitrans is really nice and you can even select what to translate and ask it again...
but fucking thing freezes all the time, anyone knows this issue?
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Is there a 100% save for Love Raper Maki?
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Chinpo!
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>>127161975
Yeah well I fucked your mother.
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>>127167914
My mother is dead.
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>>127168060
That's my fetish.
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>>127167671
Omae wa mo shindeiru.
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>>127165434
http://sagaoz.net/savedata/dojin/loverapermaki_masa.zip
Alwayscheck sagaoz first
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>There isn't a tomboy heroine that even remotely comes close to as perfect waifu material as monkey does in nukige.

Sadness.
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I'm having issues with chiitrans and wolfrpg game
seems to start off pretty good but from time to time chiitrans hangs for a long period, there are several streams it reads from,
there seems to be common issues with the combination, including: http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?p=602027#post602027

Anyone knows about a workaround this? some setting maybe?
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>>127168647
You use ithvnr as a a hooker?
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>>127163925
They aren't dlsite specific terms. Getchu uses all of them too for example.
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What sort of DRM does denpasoft's release of fruit of grisaia uncut have?
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>>127169229
dunno, so probably not
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>>127169229
got it, so how do I work this? open ithvnr and what?
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>>127168341
Thanks.
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on super 117, how do I unlock the last girl ?
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Ok, got it working ithvnr with the chiitrans thingy...
pretty complicated and still hard to read...
;_; that feeling when I know will not enjoy game this way
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What are the advantages of VNR over old Translation Aggregator+Atlas? Translation quality wise; I'm happy with the display options with TA.
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>>127172440
>Translation quality wise
? It's all shit, you should know that by now
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>>127172593
Well I got the impression that VNR was the best thing since sliced bread. I didn't think it would be because it had fancier display options.
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Anyone got the latest TiTS build?
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>>127168605
Please stop uploading trash.
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Is there a guide or similar to Saki Quest?

Also, why don't you include the pastebins from hgg2d?
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>>127173951
He uploaded the one last like last week. Is there a newer one?
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>>127175362
Yeah. Came out the 29th.
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Does anyone have Babylon City 365?
Apparently it's good but I can't find a working link.
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Did anyone ever figure out how to run Princess Sacrifice on Windows 10? It's the only H game that doesn't work for me but with new bits of translation coming out I really want to play it.
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im trying to find a game, i dont if if its hentai or just a dating sim but im pretty sure the main character was a trap and it was an all girls school or some shit. source anyone?
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>>127177517
https://vndb.org/v17391
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>>127177517
Use tag search on vndb.
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>>127177639
no i dont think so, this guy was half forced into his role, the other half was him being a pussy.
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>>127134035

How many games are from this series?

The second one was poorly tanslated
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>>127177786
i got nothing out of it why do you think im here.
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>>127177517
pretty sure the guy has blue hair as well.
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>>127178904
then go to /hgg2d/
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>>127178904
Keep trying, someone will bite eventually.
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>>127178904
go make the thread, i'll post in it.
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>>127171037
i think that silhoutte is just a tease for another update
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>>127178861
Tsuriotsu?
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>>127177517
fucking found it. its highschool romance.
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>>127180507
Why would I want to die when technology like that exists?
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>>127180507
why not. because then some devs would make sketchy games that i would have to buy physical copies of in allies so i can stick my dick in a loli.
10/10 would go to jail
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>>127180507
I'd actually make something of my life and have a steady income if that day were to finally come.
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>>127180507
>>Anything that happens in-game happens to you
>>Losing to a monster boss has you raped with the tech you're wearing
But I don't have girl-parts.
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>>127181370
You are gonna have some after he is done with you
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>>127180962
>>127180769
Advanced VR tech is legitimately coming soon my friends
Oculus Rift is shipping Q1 of this year

>>127181370
>>127181539
Nice
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Where can i find old rpg games?

I remember, like 12 years ago, we went to a friend house to shill and he showed us his latest finds in Kazaa. It was this porn game im looking for that looked like shinning force where, after a short introduction of the protag, you were to leave the town but encountered some guys raping a girl, then you had a fight with them and she joined your party. It looked something like the shitty paint picture i made.

After seeing that part of the game we played some crazy taxi and watched south park and never spoke about that game again.
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>>127182050
Could it be this?
https://vndb.org/v723
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>>127105324
>>127114463
I can't find a download link for this anywhere. There's a couple listings on anime-sharing, but one has a bunch of dead links and the other is a torrent that has no seeds. Nyaa lists the anime but not the game.
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>>127175187
Why? Saki Quest is the most straight forward game there is. Just beat all the rooms with pentagramm plus the forest. Then go to the new dungeon in the secons city. Beat the orc guardians and go to the right most location in the door. Beat that one. Then at the place where the last dungeon was go north into the building and join the colosseum. Beat yui five times and after each victory visit a door in the south east house in the middle screen of the slave city to watch an event with yui. Go to the middle of the now opened room in the middle of the slave city. Kill every enemy in the new dungeon and then go back figthing yui.
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>>127182312
Will get it and check.
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>>127177246
It works fine for me. Have you installed the japanese language pack?
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>>127178026
2. One is coming out next month though.
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>>127182696
thanks, but was really just to check what H it had...
> my feeling when barely any H ;_;
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>>127182723
The only other game, that is this old, RPG and
in English is Mad Paradox

http://www.myabandonware.com/game/mad-paradox-31b
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>>127183403
from what >>127182050 said
it really doesn't need to be that old, 12 years ago was already 2003
RPG Maker 2000... even Vh could already be around really,
but probably something famous enough to be shared.
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>>127183290
Also easy. Loose to all bosses. Depending on morale you can unlock 3 different hscenes from.
Everything by the janitor.
Yui's stuff is forced. Just remember at the last bit where you fight together with yui lose and repeat that two times.
In the cafe as part time work and on the train you can unlock.
A random house in the second town lets you sleep in it and inlocks scenes.
When high enough lewd go to the north north right of the first town to get a new part time and work your debt there. Unlocks recpllection room of scenes.
Also first town when you can run around naked go to the toilet north east naked.
In the room where the white haired girl is in the school building talk to her while you are horny or how the state was called.
Remember most of those events have multiple ones based on your lewd.
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>>127183796
>12 years ago was already 2003
That hit harder, than I thought it would... I've grown old.
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>>127184518
>1990 was 50 years ago
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>>127184518
2003 was 13 years ago now
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>>127183290
>>127184289
And yes, sq needed some more scenes. I really wish the author would have finiahed the game instead of releasing the half finished mess it is now.
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>>127183796
Yeah, Rance already had 6 games out that point.
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>>127184604
>2016 was 0 years ago
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>>127184518
yup... I know the feeling...
I just this week got one of the Jedi games, I remember playing that old republic, and how it was awesome gameplay and graphics, went to check it, released in 2003.... block faces as fuck ;_;
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>>127182312
I really think this one is, the scene i described is almost as the one at the start of the game and the artwork is really hitting a "i've seen this before" feel.

I cant belive i remember that tongue from 12 years ago.
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>>127184604
>yfw 1995 was 58 years ago
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>>127179945
>>127171037
It is just a tease for yet another update.
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>>127180284
Eww. The other vn someone recommended you is better. Play that one instead.
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>>127185312
i wonder if the next girl is the oni-loli OC that the developer has
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>>127160774
That's not how populations work. What you're assuming is an extrapolation which if you've ever taken a statistics class you would now that's retarded. The native populations of many nations in Europe have similarly low birthrates which is perhaps the largest reason they keep importing foreign workers.
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>>127187190
But that's not related to my porn games.
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>>127187338
I just wanted to refute bullshit
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what are you teasing us with, clockup.

http://clockup.net/np_2016/
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>>127186029
I assume so. I actually thought she would also be released by now.
>>
a little wallpaper for the new year too.
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>>127183403
Toushin Toshi II is probably the first good H-RPG and that's from 1994.

Arguments could be mounted for Rance III (1991) and Rance IV (1993) as well I guess.

And Kichikuou is still the King of all Rance games and it's from 1996
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Is Darkness a stand-alone expansion? According to this dialog i dont need to have Make Me Lover installed.
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>>127188005

They're making a JTTW game? Muh dick.
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>>127188585
nah, it's the year of the saru after all. just a greetings card wallpaper.
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>>127188534
it's both, depending on if you have the original installed or not
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>>127188687

Fuck, that would've been great. Monkey looks like prime breeding material.
>>
Friendly remember to not be lewd, Its 2016!
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>>127189150
aye, sir!
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Will something eventually happen if I've never had sex with Sylvie?
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>>127189675
She'd probably leave you.
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>>127189675
you will break her
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How bad would a spoilerless/grindless run in Kamidori come back to bite me in the ass?

Played 50 hours on my last playthrough and obsessed too much about crafting materials and items. Clocked 50+ hours and got to the "Fleeting Happiness" chapter.

After beinf out of sync for so long I'd rather just start over with a clean save.
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>>127189150
k
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>>127190862
>>127191210
Eeh?
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>>127191320
Some parts or routes of the game are pretty broken in difficulty if you don't look up some stuff (Pink Haired Girl's quest/route in particular)
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>>127191564
you break her and turn her into a cock loving whore for you and because of that, the sylvie you love so much will be gone
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>>127191564
Sex is good for her, just don't rape her or anytthing anon. That's what we mean. She wants the sex after all
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>a year later
>still come back and fap to princess sacrifice
I wish there are more games like it, or a sequel, or the bard guy could erase my memories about the game so I could play it for the first time again.
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>>127159143
more the hatred of riajuu / realfags who get a job, a life, get married etc.
most otaku are forever alone and so shit like NTR gets right to them because they know they won't ever get the married life so they can fantasize about ruining it for someone else
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>>127105324
>that art looks pretty good
>wait she has a huge cock
>o-okay, I can still bear with funatari to a certain degree
>huge areola
No thanks
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Since someone mentioned Eushully, I took a look at their coming game and it's about pirates, refreshing (as a hgame) I guess. You collect resource by raiding and trading on the map and you can use the resource to upgrade your ships and crews. One of the more interesting aspect of the game is you get to choose the protagonist from six characters (generic teen, loli magician, angel, big tits majin, edge lord, and fat wealthy asshole) so the game is probably built around replayability this time. Not sure what to expect after their last game though. If anything I liked how they attempted to get rid of grinding in the last game.
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>>127099726
https://mega.nz/#!ZUhBDRaQ!JHWm22RnZuvuSsiEV1Sv__1yIffROoNUqKO5-pAJlpU
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>>127192321
Did you beat the black dragon?
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>>127193441
>Bear with futanari
I'm pretty sure that's the correct way to say it but it still made me laugh.
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>>127193752
Yeah I did, it's pretty easy when you're high level.
Now I'm looking for a set of clothes that would compliment well with prostitution and meat toilet class in combat because those classes are weak as hell.
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>>127193441
>huge areola
that got my dick hard though.
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>>127194759
creamed corn
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>>127193441
>dick is fine
>huge areola not
Anon.
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>>127193624
Sounds like Madou replayability. Which is good because Madou was a decent game even apart from the nice H-content.
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>>127195274
What's wrong with dick, you gay or something?
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>>127104325
I have a hard time finding good hgames featuring mainly futa, especially sprite animations.
Any recommendations?
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>>127194759
Good for you, I can't like large and/or dark areola at all.
>>127195274
Big dick isn't fine. If it's either huge areola or big dick I can look past it but 2 at the same time is over the line.
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>>127195378
chrono's gate it was a surprise for me
there's also guro so watch out
no dick ripping yet though so don't worry about that
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>>127195825
>yet
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>>127195437
>hating large areolas
I understand people may not like what I like, but I still don't accept it as a valid excuse.
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