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>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final announced
http://megaten4f.jp/

>More information about Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final
http://pastebin.com/Kj5FyHCY

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/Np1ng1kx

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>Previous Thread
>>126721524
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first for smt is gay
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What makes SMT girls so tasty?
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Why is there an actual studying function in P3. What the hell.
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>>126946142
Why wouldn't there be? You gotta be real smart if you want to eat burgers with Mitsuru.
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I remember a lot of people complaining back a year ago that they kept getting lost in SMT IV.

It's actually pretty simple and I only got lost once looking for some domain before I realized half of them are random. Are people just dumb?
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>>126945827

OP why you gotta start the last thread of 2015 with such an abomination? You dick.
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>>126946660
People got lost while searching for the Heavenly Kings.
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>>126946786
I feed on your suffering.

>>126946660
>Are people just dumb?
Do you have to ask?
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>>126946849
>implying
There are retards on /v/ who got lost as soon as they exited the Tower
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>>126946660
To be fair who the fuck would think to go back to Fujiwara to progress the neutral route?
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>>126947078
Well I got lost while searching for Jikokuten.
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>>126946142
You need academics for some social links
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>>126946142
For getting good grades, duh.
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>>126946142
You go to school.

It's not nearly as stupid as drinking coffee at night to charm people with.
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For the sake of future generations that get to play a patched SMT IF... I'd like to offer this advice.

There will be a time in this game where you'll be thinking, it can't be that bad, right?
This game should be getting better, not worse, right?
There's no way the developers would do this to us, right?

I'll just spend hours in fusion trying every combination in order to get Estoma, and turbo mode through this, right?

Adorable.

The Atlus' programmers, in 1994, foresaw the invention of emulators with turbo functionality, and programmed their step/moon phase counter to not track steps taken in turbo mode.

Yes, you'll have to pace those mines in real time. For six months. In a dungeon designed to teach you to stop procrastinating and work hard.

I legitimately hate this game.
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>>126948858
>For the sake of future generations that get to play a patched SMT IF...
So, for no one?
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>>126948858
>and programmed their step/moon phase counter to not track steps taken in turbo mode
How is that even possible?
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>>126949156
Upon further experimentation, I have discovered that the route I was sprinting up and down in turbo contained an NPC, as most do. The area is littered with them to force you to skip through repetitive dialogue as you pace.

And some reset the counter on your current moon phase. They're densely packed enough on some pacing routes to indefinitely reset your current moon phase.

Sorry, gave Atlus too much credit. Game is more broken than I thought.
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>>126948858
>>126949648
If...is shaping up like a clusterfuck of a game.
Can't you just use some sort of cheat to bypass that part or something? Like a 2x Moon phase speed?
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>>126950324
Sadly, a clusterfuck would be preferable because things would actually be happening. Every dungeon has been extremely short, sparse on detail, and designed to waste as much time as possible through mob/boss/gimmick difficulty.

I already dug through a Japanese site listing PAR codes, but I don't know that anything like a moon code exists. I've used PAR codes on SMT 1 before when I was ripping background assets for a phone theme and disastrous, game breaking results followed. I think the coding is just too convoluted.
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>>126950908
I still wanna play it though. At least to see how bad it is.
Is the story anything noteworthy?
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>>126951152
The story is Megami Tensei I tier. That might be unfair, because I at least found MT1's world to be interesting (dungeon layout, a flyable city, sea of flames, etc).

>Evil student sends school to the abyss
>Warp to tiny, compartmentalized dungeons to fight a monster and get key to next dungeon
>Repeat

This isn't someone saying "oh in Strange Journey all you do is fight a monster to get key to next dungeon repeat hurr durr". That's omitting a lot of details and character moments.

I'm actually being totally descriptive here. I really hope something happens soon, maybe some huge twist will come along but it's not looking good. If I get through this without murdering a single friend I will lose my goddamn mind.
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>>126952217
Oh don't worry anon. Soon there will be murder.
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>>126952217
Why is he thinking about Pascal the dog?
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>>126953117
Because Pascal the dog is not there.
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Should I get Soul Hackers digitally or the physical copy w/ CD.

That digital sale is tempting.
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>>126953362
>physical copy w/ CD.
Why would you want a CD with a pair of musics? Just get the digital version or buy a normal physical edition.
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>>126952460
Good. The students are just starting to finish their shafts and I killed a fat guy so I think I'm finally about ready to move on in one more cycle.

Last 2-3 dungeons better be pretty stellar to make up for this shit.
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What did they mean by this?
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>>126955385
>the one on the left
You're welcome Anon.
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>>126955914
Why is Seraph art so bad?
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>>126955385
I want this meme to fucking die so badly.
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>>126955975
Not sure if bad or they wanted to draw a dick
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>>126956395
I mean that the face never actually looks anything like Seraph's face.
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is DeSu OC supposed to be grindy? or am i just shit at 1337 strategy
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>>126957352
use free battles
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>>126957724
that's what i do... alot. that's why im wondering if it's meant to be grindy
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>SMT IV Final
>Endings are determined by your relationship with your partners
>most of your partners are cute girls

Where were you when the age of waifus came upon us?

Also Dagda's design is cool as fuck. Not convinced about the protags though. I think the punk hairstyle is a little over the top.
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>>126958292
I hope they can make the endings satisfying. I've never really cared for the alignment system, largely because of how biased the series is towards Neutral. Nocturne's system has always seemed better to me on a conceptual level, but none of its endings/routes had enough variance/their own identity, they were all very samey compared to the games that used the alignment system.
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>>126958292
>Implying I would ever use anyone except Isabeau, Nozomi, or Hareruya/Hallelujah
Most of them are about 15, strangely. It's like everyone's either almost-20 or in their 40s.
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>>126958487

According the developers, ever single ending is a different form of Neutral. Your actions and your relationship with your partners determine which ending you get.
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>>126958618

That's not really weird. I mean, the foundation rose 20 years ago, and it would be the people in their 20's who'd have the best chance of survival. Whereas most of the first generation born after the Foundation would be around 15-20.

Also

>not going with based Toki
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>>126958654
>ever single ending is a different form of Neutral
And Reasons were supposed to be different from the LNC system. I'm seriously wondering how they're going to make Peace and Anarchy different from Law and Chaos on an appreciable level.
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>>126958968

They'll probably go the Devil Survivor overclocked route.
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>>126959082
Overclocked had law and chaos.
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>>126959829

But they were both heavily tinged with Neutrality, what with Abel actively defying both demons and angels to get a better ending for humanity.
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>>126960404
They were pretty clear cut m8
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>>126960593

Compare them to basically any other Law/Chaos ending in mainline and tell me they aren't much more Neutral in nature.
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>Autism demands I map the whole dungeon
>Trap floor tiles god damn everywhere
How soon until I get I sub app that at least reduces damage? Or float balls or something.
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>>126961352
Nurse, medic are those. You get them around erindanus. and status-protecting rings help against status traps(don't get inflicted)
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>>126963062
Looks like I'm just gonna suck it up and map. I hope this doesn't fuck me over.
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Bufula or Ice Breath? I can only keep one. I know Bufula does more damage but Ice Breath is multi-hit even if it's only 1 target.
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>>126965219
Bufula.
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>>126965265
thanks, thought so
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>>126961352
Just control your autism anon. Tell it to fuck off and ignore mapping the dungeons.
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>>126964375
Wait til erindanus, there's also a side quest to map floors, and getting Macca in general for mapping, wait then.
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>>126948858
Stop being so slothy
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I see SMT Devil Survivor Overclocked is on sale on the eShop, should I go for it?
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>>126971102
Sure. There are cute girls.
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Finally got neutral path on SMT IV, now to do every single thing I didn't and get the 2 fiends I need to fuse my favorite whore.
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>>126971523
who might you be referring to anon?
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>>126972153
only the best whore
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GUYS HOLY SHIT

I was looking around an old shelf and realized I'd left some Dreamcast games on that shelf behind some stuff years ago and I just fucking found this

I don't even remember owning this game, I must have gotten it when I was four years old and completely forgotten

I was talking to a friend about this game like two days ago and here it is
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>>126972529
neato
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>>126972529
>when I was four years old and completely forgotten
>anon is actually an SMT protagonist
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>>126972153

This anon gets it >>126972396 .

Thanks second anon, I did not have that illustration.

>>126972529

Talk about luck.
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>>126972741
>"actually an SMT protagonist"
>friend I was talking to looks exactly like chaos hero

FUCK
That's not even an exaggeration, it makes him angry how accurate the comparison is
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>>126973137
What's the name of your dog?
Do you have enough coffee at home?
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>>126973137
better start stocking up on revival beads now m8

>tfw in America and don't have to worry about Thor nuking you, only the sun turning everyone into stone
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ONE
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FUTA
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PENIS
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REJECTED
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>>126973893
>>126973982
>>126974004
>>126974019
>>126974050
We did it guys.
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>>126974249
Looks like DDS3 is cancelled.
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>>126973893
>>126973982
>>126974004
>>126974019
>>126974050
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SO, I GOTTA USE THESE DEMONS EH?
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>>126974462
What am I, an egg?
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What should I play next? Soul Hackers or Overclocked?
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>>126974785
Overclocked without a doubt. DeSu is the best spin off series.
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>>126974785
Both.
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>>126974853
>not DDS

It's like you don't even like girly dicks.
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>>126974937
>digital doodoo saga
No thanks.
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>>126975109
It's not the characters' fault they can't poo in loo. Their game is based on that mythology.
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>>126964375
Do it.

Its worth it.
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Does /smtg/ like the demons featured in the SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI games and spinoffs?
https://strawpoll.me/6409271
https://strawpoll.me/6409271
https://strawpoll.me/6409271
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>>126964375
>>126975914
Wait, aren't you supposed to map every dungeon in SMT games? So you don't become underleveled.
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>>126976118
>Wait, aren't you supposed to map every dungeon in SMT games?
No but i always do aniways.
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>>126975914
But the only right way to play it is to get all the medals.
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>>126975969
Demons aren't that different from humans in SMT. Some are nice, some are jerks trying to fuck you up, and others want to fuck you just like real life.
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>>126976264
>mfw i'm mapping every dungeon in SMT1.

No wonder SMT1 is so easy.
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>>126976549
Same. It was really easy for me because of that and going neutral.
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>>126976323
You have been playing too much of these shitty WRPGs, demons are just tools, the ones you have shall be used and the ones you don't have shall be destroyed. Except Pixie, Pixie is special.
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Does smt4 take place after strange journey? Continuity doesn't matter but with the whole amala network going on, where do you anons think it should be placed?
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>>126981349
I feel like we would've gotten some sort of callback to what happened during SJ in CDF logs. I think it's just a parallel with a few similar things, like the Demonica.
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if i dont merge monster am i fine?
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>>126960839
what about SMT2's Chaos ending, which is just a better version of Neutral
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>>126981349
My idea was always that SMT IV takes place after SJ, since it's made clear in SJ that the Schwarzwelt will inevitably reappear. Makes sense to me that it would eventually come back, and without Doomguy around to shut it down again, the CDF became a thing but eventually failed anyway. It would explain why they use Demonicas, considering they'd been useful in the past.
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>>126981349
I recently came upon this image. Is this even plausible?
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>>126982773
It's bullshit.
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>>126982773
But that timeline doesn't have any of the cell phone games

Or SMT Nine
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>>126982773

I'm about to sleep, will look harder into that in the morning, but it is pretty close.

The only thing that I see that I would correct is Raidou. He would be in the center, kicking off a bunch of universes.
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>>126982773
The lineup of SMT1/if... to Persona/Devil Summoner, SMT1-SMT2, and DDS1-DDS2 are the only ones significantly supported by in-game material. The rest are fairly speculative but not entirely without basis. For example, the claim that SMT3 follows from the SMT1 Chaos ending is based on a quote from Kaneko that said something like "the artistic and moral sensibilities of the world in SMT3: Nocturne essentially draws more from the SMT1 Chaos route than any other source". But that's not the same as saying it's a sequel of that, of course.
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>>126982773
It's nonsense. Just look at the bullshit it has to pull to integrate Nocturne into the chart. This is what happens when fans take references and easter eggs more seriously than the developers.

The simplest and most consistent explanation is that there is a megaten multiverse and occurrences in these universes can bleed into each other through supernatural entities, but there is not a strictly linear time relationship between universes
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>>126983447

A lot of speculation are confirmed on Raidou 1, but people did not give attention ( or fucks for that matter ). Game was too cluncky for most people's taste.

Raidou 2 confirmed a few others, literally joined a bunch of stuff, and solidified Raidou the 14th as one of the biggest, strongest characters in the multiverse ( which people usually don't accept ).

Worth to note that Raidou is literally Kaneko's favorite child, by far. Both Raidou games were passion projects, stuff that he did how he wanted, hands on and etc.

> tfw when would give up SMT IV for Raidou 3, because it means Kaneko is on the house
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Before I go, here it is a fairly recent Kaneko picture.
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>>126984446
I would give up SMT4 for Raidou 3 just because we never got a full on kill your friends mode for the raidou games and Radiou 3 was shaping up to be just that.
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Reminder that SMTcucks parrot the opinions of the amazing banana fucker, Rasen, and Thunderf00t
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>>126985962
Who?
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>>126985129
>we never got a full on kill your friends mode for the raidou games
You get to kill waifu Akane in the law route and friend Dahn in R2 though.
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>>126985962
I don't get this meme. What opinions? Who are these people?
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>>126984821
Which one is he in it? I can't tell desu senpai.
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>>126984821
That man's in a better place. There's no shitposting or tumblr agendas in the field of flowers
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80%
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I got SMTIV for Chrimbo, do I go law or chaos. Can I romance Walter? Is there any way to warp out of fucking Naraku or do i have to keep doing back and forth? Pls help, I've never played an SMT game before in my entire life. but I have played P3FES for 100+ hours.
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>>126987363
There's no tumblr agendas in Japan, in general.
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>>126987531
Try for neutral unless you have a hard-on for one alignments already, if you don't you'll just be disappointed. You cannot romance Walter but he's the Chaos hero if it makes a difference.
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>>126987531
>law or chaos
Answer questions honestly and see what happens, especially since this is your first SMT.
>can I romance Walter
No.
>is there any way to warp
There are locations you can warp to and from, but they don't become abundant until you're almost out of Naraku.
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>>126987645
Besides the ones the UN is trying to force over there.
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>>126987531
do a blind run or nuetral no you can't romance walter.
kinda early spoilers follow
you don't stay in Naraku for long, you move on to more interesting places. teleports to get between far and distant places are found tho
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>>126987531
>do I go law or chaos
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>>126987890
please
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>>126988164
>my hoys are a little different
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>>126985962
forced me.me
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>>126971102
Buy physical.
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>Jungo's voice

That is not what I expected. At least it's not as bad as Ronaldo's.
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>>126976118
I did this in MT1 and ran out of MAG, the game became almost impossible, since I was in the Sea of flames and almost all enemies don't give MAG, so I remember I managed to solo the dungeon with only the two heroes. At least in MT2 I could grind for MAG and have healing points nearby.
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>>126988557
you don't even have hard copies of SMT1, SMT2, and if...
NO PASS
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>>126988557
This makes me so jealous.
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>>126987824
>>126987838
>>126987976
>>126987976
>>126987838
>>126987824
Okay, what do I play after that? soul hackers? devil survivor? strange journey? why do cu chulainn and setanta look so fucking ugly
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>>126988968
depends on your likes and dislikes but devil survivor is the most similar to persona
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>>126988968
>why do cu chulainn and setanta look so fucking ugly
You play the game called suicide, faggot. Nocturne if you really like it. DeSu: OC if you want something more character focused like Persona.
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>>126989057
>>126989153

I don't mind if it's character focused or not. Just which is easiest for me to obtain. Does Nocturne have a digital ps3 copy?

Also, I just remembered I have a copy of Raidou vs The Soulless Army as well, so maybe that should be next.

Which one is longest?
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>>126988557
>No boxed copies of SMT1/2
>No PS1 games
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>>126988557
>persona
>no SMT 1-2
>no MT

leave
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>>126990202
>Tfw no New Famicom to get Megaten 1 and 2 for
feels bad man
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>>126945827

can someone recap why this was so bad?
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>>126990361
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Kyūyaku_Megami_Tensei
>not getting the remake
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>>126990523
>being new
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>>126990576
But anon-sama I already have 2 copies of Kyuuyaku! I just have no box for it yet. I do have boxed MajiTen and IF... though
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>>126990523
Read the last damn thread.
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Anon, are you hungry at all? I know this isn't exactly the time, but it might be nice to enjoy a quiet French dinner with you.
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>>126991078
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>>126991078
I vaguely remember this quote but i can't recall where from.
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>>126991768
the homo from p2
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>>126988701
I don't even know what MAG does in SMT1 because i have so much of it.
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>>126978403
When i wrote that i had Pixie,Nekomata and Lilith in mind.

Fuck Nekomata.
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>>126991768
Thank you for giving me an excuse to post Jun.
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>Daleth tries to kill me, kills Beth instead
>run into him later, wacky anime love potion hijinks happen
>after it's done and over with that's it, can't even really interact with them

I thought these games were meant to be taken seriously? This is bullshit.
Do I not get to kill this guy? Does he even show up again? I thought him killing Beth would actually mean something rather than just being ignored.
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>>126982773
>no Jack Bros.
it's shit
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>>126993769
>I thought these games were meant to be taken seriously?

>Taking any mainline SMT game seriously
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>>126993769
>I thought these games were meant to be taken seriously?
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>>126995860
>>126995993
I don't know, you guys just seem to take offense to having SMT compared to less-serious games like Persona.
The general mood in this game until this point was relatively serious as well.
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>For a woman to be a succesful on screen personality in japan she must be unrealistically manic and childish while the men act normal and laugh how much of a stupid woman she is.

Why is this ok?
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>>126997708
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>Literally no porn of Sera

Why is this allowed?
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>>126999831
Because by the end of DDS2 you give basically no fucks about her or any of the other characters anymore
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>>127000250
I do not comprehend.
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So with the Nintendo exclusivity deal now finished and the last Atlus game on a Nintendo platform, SMT F being made what does this mean for SMT?

Will it return to being a Sony series? PlayStation/Xbox multiplat? Sony/PC?

What do you think?
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>>127002876
i'd like to see consoles die after this generation and i think it might be possible

>integrated GPU becoming more powerful and the standardization amongst PCs that brings
>current gen consoles have x86 processors anyway and are basically locked down PCs
>#FE was a flop
>Sony bankrupt
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>>127004358
If that happens they move to phones, not PCs.
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When do you guys think SMT IV, DeSu 1 and 2 and Persona Q will be ported to PS VITA?
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>>126993769
He never wanted to kill Beth, she sacrificed herself to protect you. Daleth thought that Beth was being manipulated. He's really not a bad guy, just ended up on the wrong side of fate.
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>>126982773
Here's the official Atlus approved one.
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>>127002876
Chances are they're gonna milk the shit out of P5 first and then reuse the assets. Hopefully.

>>127004358
SMT games in my Steam store? Unthinkable!

>>127004803
Probably never. I don't dislike the idea but I'd rather they use the time/budget for new mainline/spinoff games.
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>>127005032
come to think of it, SMT2 is still the farthest into the future that they've gone, isn't it
maybe DDS is farther
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>>126993769
When playing through the full story (SMT1-2), you are presented with a nonstop stream of death and despair. The stupid Infidelity Sap arc is the one bit of comic relief you get for the whole ride. Enjoy it while it lasts. Or don't and take it out on Puck.

And yeah, Daleth shows up later, at least on the Chaos route.
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>>127005309
there's some funny stuff in the third act, like Crowley and the ghosts
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SMT x Final Fantasy
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SMT x Persona
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SMT x Shovel Knight
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SMT x Nintendo Badge Arcade
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Can someone post the link to the demi fiend artbook?
On mobile so pastebin is gay.

Or you could just post demi fiend sleeping on the ground
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>>127005204
DDS is 2025.
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>>126953117
>this party's too loud
>all my friends are dead
>i wish i was at home petting my dog
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>>127006752
>You want to try the arcade machine?
>Fufufufufu....
>Give me $1.30
>This is not enough. Give me $1.30.
>Hmm...
>[Baito-kun is thinking.]
>Answer my question. Have you heard of [Nintendo game that came out recently]?
>>Yes
>Then I'll tell you about something you don't know; your sudden demise!
>Baito-kun attacked!
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>>127004358
So you want SMT on smart phone?

>>127005102
I could see it. SMT V exclusively for PS4.
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>>127010960
i want a HD nocturne for PC
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>>127011476
Probably for the PS4
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>>127010960
You know, I can see Nintendo moneyhatting Atlus so SMTV stayed exclusive to ninty platforms.
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>>127013767
>Nintendo wasting anymore money on Atlus after #FE
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>>127013767
Final is the last Atlus game on a Nintendo platform though...
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I was worried I wasn't going to be able to spend New Year's Eve with you fags.
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Should I bother maxing my demons loyalty in Soul Hackers?
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>>126988557
QDS VOLUME 2
FUCKING
WHEN?
I even started re-reading volume 1.

Also, happy new year SMTG. Have an honorary hoy.
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What are your hopes and goals for the new year /smtg/? Try and keep it Megaten related.

Personally, I hope I can finish all mainline games before 2017.
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>>127016659

Get off my lazy ass and beat DeSu Lucifer and DDS2 Satan.
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>KOWASHITAI idol group sings the Fire Emblem theme before the final battle
YEAH I GET IT. No need to rub the salt into the wound, Atlus.
Honestly I might buy this game when it comes to the States because it could potentially flop here and it'll be a nice rare game to keep wrapped up. I don't even own a Wii U, nor do I have the intention of buying one ever.
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>>127016856
Why would you wanna waste your cash like that? It'd have very little collector's value, you know.
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>>127016856
Physical games still have value down the line when people can just buy digital copies or pirate the shit out of everything?
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>>127016659
100% SMTIV, Overclocked and Record Breaker. Still got plenty of routes to tackle.
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>>127016969
Same reason why I bought SMT NINE. I can't play it technically, but it holds meaning to me. I like to own things that failed when the makers had ambition for it. Who am I kidding. This game will probably sell more in America than it did in Japan because the Wii U is starved of JRPGs.
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>>127016659
Finding at least one more Fiend in SMTIV.

I still haven't beat Law because I'm on my Neutral save trying to find the damn things.
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>>127017140
Nah, NINE at least has value value as an SMT game. Kowashitai has none.

Don't think it'll sell just because of a lack of Wii U JRPGs.
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>>127017213
You're probably right. Seeing as how not even FE and SMT fans want nothing to do with this game, the only demographic is a different one and it'll be difficult convincing those weebs to buy it, I think.
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>>127017365
I've said it a few times - it's the game nobody wanted in the guise of the game a lot of people wanted. I mean, the game was practically destined to fail as soon as it dropped off the radar entirely for as long as it did. It's a real shame, too. I get sad thinking of what could've been.
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>>127017678
It will be fun if they release some concept art of their previous ideas in inevitable artbook.
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>>127018408
If you enjoy feeling bad over what could have been maybe.
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>>127018408
There's...literally nothing good that can come of this game, man. Hurts, but it's true.
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>>127017678
I'm not so sure that a lot of SMT players would have liked the original idea anyway, since it was meant to be a fantasy SRPG.
I mean I'm sure you guys would have liked it more than this game, but it would have mostly appealed to FE fans or SRPG nuts like me, most likely.
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I'll spend the night with friends eating a lot and watching anime instead of shitposting with you guys like during Christmas, so happy new year a bit early!
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>>126988830
>>126989591
>>126990202
I was looking at some English patched physical copies of KMT, SMT, and SMTII. Apparently they're sold on eBay, but they won't answer which translation they're using (Orden fix, for example) or if the auto mapping patch for SMT1 was included.
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>>127018848
>literally nothing good that can come of this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwnuC_4dtk4
Boss theme is pretty good. What a waste.
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I can tell you if Final was announced at the same time as SMT x FE was reintroduced, the reaction would have been very different. There is a good reason why FE fans were less angry: FE If was on the horizon and got a new trailer during the same direct. If new FE wasn't coming there would have been twice as much butthurt.
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Anyone have a hard time remembering chingchongy names
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>>127020743
Depends. There are some common names that are easier to remember.
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>>127020743
I remember a name pretty easily if I see it enough, but the ones that are hardest for me to remember are the ones with really weird names like the Aztec demons.
Japanese ones aren't really THAT hard to remember, if I do forget some of them it's probably because so fucking many of them are in the game.
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>>127020743
It's pretty easy when you have some Japanese knowledge. I doubt I could memorize Kasumigaseki or Chirijiraden or Kikuichimonji if I didn't knew the kanas.
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>>127020743
During my run of SMTIV, I kept mixing up Shinjuku and Shibuya and always went to the wrong one whenever prompted. So yeah, I'm pretty bad at it.
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>>127020743
Nah, but I've been a weeb since middle school so I'm used to them.
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Well, SMT If... was shit. Vague, minor spoilers below.

>Tiny, linear dungeons with high difficulty + new Guardian mechanic to encourage heavy grinding. The final secret dungeon in the "true" route is seriously just one floor. Clearly designed to minimize developer effort while maximizing user play time.

>A dungeon entirely dedicated to making you pace up and down some corridors for 8 in-game months. It's not a puzzle, an NPC flat out tells you what you need to do. Really. Just pace for hours on end in an area with an encounter rate that puts SMT 1 to shame. Good luck fusing a specific demon with Estoma using the SNES-era fusion system!

>Garbage plot. The villain is a (somehow) less competent and more obnoxious Nakajima. The true manifestation of /r9k/. He's super powerful though and sends you and the school to the abyss by way of... uh... never really explained, and then makes you fight a boss to get a key to fight more bosses and so on. Generic Persona 4 dungeon-tier events happen on the "true" ending. I think Akira's route is slightly more SMT in nature, but hell if I'm playing that again to find out for sure.

>NO FRIEND KILLING. Unless you somehow consider Charley's attempt to cure Stone status which you have the choice to partake in.

Things SMT If... did right:
>Some character routes have exclusive dungeons, encouraging replay. However, you have to go through that horrible fucking pacing dungeon every time, so just look up the endings online instead.

>A few nice dungeon tile sets, specifically World of Wrath.

>Saxophone Unicorn boss

I loved Kyuuyaku and SMT 1+2 so I'm pretty gutted by this. Don't let me discourage you though, if you have more tolerance for sheer tedium or crippling autism you might almost enjoy this game.
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>>127026105
>>A dungeon entirely dedicated to making you pace up and down some corridors for 8 in-game months.
STOP BEING SO SLOTHY
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>>127026105
I can't wait for this game to be patched.
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>>127016659
Defeat Demi-Fiend in DDS1, I fucked it up last cycle by giving Cielo 99 of Luck.
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>>127026105
>Saxophone Unicorn boss
who?

also what version of Chefei did you fight?
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>>127028849
>he doesn't know
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>>127028849
That's the fox that changes depending on how much you took right? Never got the chance since I picked Charley. I just read the translation for the girls' routes, not going through again for that boss, even though it sounded like a neat mechanic.
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>>127004358
Never ever.

The casual market will always prefer to plug in and play, even if that means moving to mobile. But that as well is very unlikely, because mobiles don't allow you to have proper multiplayers or online play.

Even if consoles need to change, they are going to stay relevant.
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>>127031386
Not being able to sit in front of the computer all day doesn't make someone a casual.
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SMT x Kamigami no Asobi
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Wake up desu.
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>tfw don't own a single physical copy
I don't even know where to begin
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>>127035531
Easier to find ones like SMT IV aren't bad starting points.
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>>127035771
Checked gaming stores and general pawn shops with gaming sections, haven't seen any mention of any SMT games except Persona Q
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>>127036112
Amazon or Craigslist.
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>>127036218
>SMT:IV Currently Unavailable
>No image
>No information

I.. don't think they sell it.
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>>127036393
Where do you even live?
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Smt tv
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>>127036691
England :(
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>>127036913
If you want physical copies I think you'll have to import, and then there's region locking to deal with too. I should've figured you were a Yuropoor from the start.
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>Only physical copies are P4G and Record Breaker because I pirated everything else
....Oh YHVH I am the highest form of pleb.
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DON'T OPEN IT
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>>127037183
I pray Persona 5 is released in Europe.
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>>127031539
And that is my point.

The people who can go out of their way to build a PC is lower in comparison to the people who just want to plug-in and play with their friends.

PC gaming may be "superior", but I don't see consoles dying anytime soon.
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>>127037447
There are services that build you a PC based on the parts you request. If sellers can avoid ripping off consumers, prebuilt PCs will keep getting more popular too.
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3D print games
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>>127037414
I still think he looks like a lesbian in cosplay
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>>127037414
To this day I don't understand what people see in Yasuda's art.
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>>127037805
I think Atlus' exact words to Yasuda were: "design an otome game character".
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>>127037880
He panders to fetishes, that's about it.
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>>127038004
He looks sort of similar to Shizuru from Phantasy Star Portable 2.
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>>127038004
Makes sense.
He acts like one, too.
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>>127037414
Thanks for the gift.
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>>127038450
who is the artist?
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>>127039092
i'm hesitant to ask what's happening in this image.
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Is Soul Hackers supposed to be oddly easy?
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>>127039889

it's not too difficulty
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More translations.
http://dijeh.tumblr.com/post/136002503353/im-suspiciously-productive-this-month-so-have
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>>127039941
>not too difficulty
It's easy. Only the last boss will give you trouble.
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huy
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>>127044286
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What day is hoy?
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>>127044962
Hoy no, mañana.
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What's the success rate of Fundraise?
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>>127016659
Get off my lazy ass, and finish SJ, and start emulating Raidou 1 and Raidou 2 sometime.
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>>127044962
THE CURRENT YEAR
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>>127016659
Finishing SMT1 and fighting David again.
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>>127016659
Get a 3DS and hack it to play SMT IV, PQ,Final and SHs.

Also finish KMT 1&2 on my psp.
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I bet Chaos Hero wears diapers.
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>>127053453
An astute summation, Son of Man.
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Happy almost new year, you bunch of easily butthurt assholes. To another year of the best thread on /vg/.
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I WILL NOT CRACK
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>>127046613
CURRENT TIME
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>>127056253
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
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>>127015836
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>>127057378
HAHAHA
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Playing Nocturne for the first time. Why the fuck can't I get negotitions with that one demon with the scimitars in Ikebukuro tower to go right?
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>>127060984
no
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Hey /smtg/ i have a favor to ask:
I was forced to reformat my PS3 so i lost all of my saves. I was wondering if any of you had any saves for DDS2 with characters above level 70 or a NG+ save.
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>>127063630
Because Nocturne negotiation is shit. Shame because it's my favourite in almost every other area.
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>>127064649
I put two demons with negotiation skills (flatter and seduce) in my party and still no luck. Do I just have to get lucky?
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>>127065905
How are you negotiating with them? Are you giving them everything they want? It's generally better to refuse a handful of requests.
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>>127066160
Yes unless they ask for >300 Macca or Revival Beads/Chakra Drops/other hard-to-come-by shit.
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Happy New Year /smtg/, I'm afraid I might not be able to funpost with you all tonight.
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>>127066717
Don't worry. We're surely due for a conception this time.
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Happy new year my favorite autists. I wonder if I will be the only one here ?
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I'm not going out.
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Are you all ready for the end of the world?
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>>127067269
I'm not even celebrating.
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Can someone here tell me if the Shock attack, and other 1-4 hit type attacks hit rates are affected by the luck stat?
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How do I cure frog status in SMT 1? I went to a healer and he couldn't do anything and me patra doesn't cure it either. Does it just wear off after a while?
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>>127067532
Is eating junk food celebrating?
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>>127068206
If you are with someone.
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>>127068632
Only you guys.

>used to spend NYE playing video games and snacking with friends
>we're all old and don't live in the same city/province/country now
>doing it alone out of old habits/memories
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>>127067656
Can one of you guys take a break from the self pity and answer my question?
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>>127067269
>2015
>going out on new years

only a cliche fag does that
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>>127071058
>2015
>Not having friends to kill
>Not going out and playing vidya with them to usher in another terrible year

>>127071057
I want to say no, but I don't know for sure. Also you might get a response from someone who actually knows if you say what game you're playing.
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>>127071375
4, none of the wiki's seem to have any stat:skill ratios of any sort.
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>>127071057
I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. But even if I did, I wouldn't answer you now.
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>>127072090
I didn't really have any hope of getting an answer when I posted. All generals are full of stingy little assholes who don't even know shit about the game, and wouldn't tell you if they did.
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>>127072090
He's asking if the amount of hits multihit skills do are linked to how much luck the caster has.
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I need this.
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can i fug Chiaki or Yuko by siding with them
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>>127073101

Pixie only.
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Is P4D good?
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>>127073330
So no?
fuck them then
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>>127073330
>Wanting to fuck Pixie
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>>127073486

There's no good reason to pick it up when the Project Diva games exist.
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>>127073729
I want to be Pixie
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>>127072242
I only know about old games, sorry.
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Hey guys, happy new year!
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>>127075631
get the fuck out Europe
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HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS!!!
Oh wait, is still 6:25pm here, not new year for me yet.
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Happy new year

Demon armaggedon soon.
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>>127063630
You probably aren't high enough level
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>>127073729
>Tfw Pixie porn sucks
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Happy new year, I can't still get out of the casino.
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lol dudes it's 2016
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Playing Conception 2 here and I was thinking that this game could be a lot better if it was a megaten spin-off.

>classmating to give birth to demons in the church
>not holding hands, but doing satanic rituals to summon demons from your waifu's womb
>just change the dusk monsters into demons too

The plot/gameplay is fine, don't need to fix anything.
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>>127083753
what the fuck is this meme
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>>127083753
not for another hour and 32 minutes it's not
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Happy new year, /smtg/
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Welp; both dl for the DeSu OST are death.

Now I'm starting to consider creating a mega account to store and share all these things. Although my internet is shit, I don't have all the megaten related OSTs yet, and I think anyone outside of 5 or 8 newfag guys would care about this.
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>>127083753
ITS 2016 I MEAN COME ON
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>>127083815
That's a pretty good idea.
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>>126945827
You need to try harder, OP. Need something a little risqué.
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QUICK /SMTG/

YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY LORD KANBARI

GOOD POOPS AND NICE DIGESTION WILL COME TO YOU BUT ONLY IF YOU POST IN THIS THREAD THE FOLLOWING:

"Kanbari Nyudo hototogisu, Arigatou Kabari-Sama"
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>>127084941
I am going to murder you.
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>>127084941
**Kanbari-Sama

WHAT HAVE I DONE
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>>127084941
Kanbari Nyudo hototogisu, Arigatou Kabari-Sama
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>>127084941
>Kanbari Nyudo hototogisu, Arigatou Kanbari-Sama

I really hope this works.
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>>127084941
Kanbari Nyudo hototogisu, Arigatou Kanbari-Sama
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>>127085029
FUCK YOU, YOU WONT GWT BETWEEN ME AND MY POOPIES!!!

>>127085370
>>127085174
>>127085413
Yessss
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>>127084941
Kanbari-Sama Nyudo hototogisu, Arigatou Kanbari-Sama
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>cock-on-a-log smirks
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happy near year guys I love you all

>>127084941
Kanbari nyudo hotogisu, arigatou kanbari-sama
I had the nastiest poopies yesterday, this comes in handy
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>>127085995
>Fighting this guy in Raidou 1
>Demons keep getting charmed and healing him to full even if I whip out status recovery items a split second after it happens

So this is what Nyx Avatar was like for all those people
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>>127063725
Just found that PS2 saves don't work on the PS3 digital PS2 games.
I lost everything, this year is going to be hell.
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>>127085995
What the FUCK is that demon
I have never seen it

Why the fuck is Kaneko so fond of dicks?
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>>127086536
Dicks are love. Dicks are life.
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>>127086536
Mishaguji
In a fair few megaten games
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>>127086536
>Why the fuck is Kaneko so fond of dicks?
Japanese culture.
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>>127085995
It didn't look like a cock in raidou.
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>>127086536
Dicks improve everything. Proof right here.
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>>127086536
humanity and society is full of fondness for dicks and the power of dick whether you consciously realize it or not
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Happy New Year from losers in EST, /smtg/!
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Merry Christmas, fags.
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So, I heard that SMTxFE I mean, True Reincarnation of Idolshit Persona flopped horribly in Japan. Is it true? Is it a Christmas miracle?
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>>127091891
Yes, it sold almost nothing outside of presale.
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>>127092056
In a way I'm sad, because it seemed like a big project for Atlus and they probably lost a lot of money on it that they could have used on better games. But also, I'm glad that people had the sense not to buy the game.
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#FE has no potential audience on the wii U. Its potential audience isn't going to go out and buy a wii u just for it.
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>>127084941
Kanbari Nyudo hototogisu, Arigatou Kabari-Sam

I know these things are just memes, but you cannot fuck around when it comes to digestion and poop
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>>127092230
Why would atlus have lost money when Nintendo published and funded it?
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>>127093093
Shiiit, I fucked up.

Constipation, here I come!
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#FE tanking is nice and all, but this isn't really the place to talk about it, is it?
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>>127093151
I thought Atlus spent money developing it but I know nothing about making games so I guess I was wrong on this one
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LIVE THIS BALL AND MANLY
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Animal Crossing New Years events gives me the illusion that I have friends and a life
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For a new year.
For a world of STR!
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Happy New Years!
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>>127094151
Don't be sad anon, having friends sucks. You have to actually pay attention to them on a somewhat regular basis and you can't kill them because it's illegal or some shit.
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>>127086419
>mfw i just figured out how to convert the PS2 files into VME's.
>mfw it worked

Never give up /smtg/.
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>>127094151
I'll be your friend man

But first you've gotta' tell me
Demon girls or human girls?
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>>127096378
good job
did you do that you yourself or found it online somewhere?
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>>127096504
Not him, but demons obviously
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>>127096831
I spent the last 5 hours trying to figure out some guides and tutorials, that overcomplicated stuff. I nearly gave up until the guy in some portuguese tutorial mentioned the SaveBuilder app and everything just clicked on my head.
I'm stupid and terrible with machines but at least i'll get to enjoy Nocturne with the DC completed and Raidou 2 NG+ Chaos ending.

The only thing that i'm really sad to have lost was my character in Dark Souls. I had giant amounts of VIT,STR,INT,FAITH and Stamina.
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When did /smtg/ start using the kanji in the OP?

It's pretty cool
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>>127099971
A few threads ago.
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Does Strange Journey emulate well on PC?
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>>127101878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOzpCPFkEaU
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>>127102046
cool
I skipped ahead to the first dungeon and it seemed fine but I wanted to make sure before I bought it
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>>127093316
No way Atlus would have risked their own money making that garbage.
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>>127101878
Emulates very well if you set it up correctly.

Download the one from this thread I apologize for it being Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/22jlld/desmume_x432r_high_resolution/

Then be sure to set your 3D settings to OpenGL if the text doesn't render correctly.
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>>127104042
You know it was atlus the one that made that garbage, right?
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Happy New Year, have a New Hoy
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>>127105281
WHADDAYA HOYIN?
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>>127104761
Yes, and it was Nintendo who funded it. My point is #FE wouldn't have happened if they had to fund the game themselves.
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>>127084941
Kanbari Nyudo hototogisu, Arigatou Kanbari-Sama

I just love how random the Japanese are. Even in their feudal times they were crazy.
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>>127104761
Being the developer doesn't mean that they were the ones with the money in the project. Nintendo hired Atlus to make the game, and they received an X money for their work. Much like Neverland was usually hired to make the Rune Factory games for Marvelous. Hired developers usually only receive a set money for their work, it doesn't matter if the game flops hard or sells lie cupcakes, they won't be affected by that.
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Any news on Devil Summoner translation patch?
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>>127111997
It's dead, just like the thread
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>>127111997
Stuck on limbo, like the if.. translation and this thread.
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>>127104065
There's a bunch of OpenGL's
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Post all your cool Hacker pics, /smtg/.
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>>127114698
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>>127114698
Does he even have a canon name?
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>>127115809
zer0c00l
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>>127084941
Kanbari Nyudo hototogisu, Arigatou Kanbari-Sama

This better work because I've had coffee shits all night.
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>>127116301
...coffee shit?
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>>127116346
Drinking coffee gives me the nastiest shits. They smell bad, are painful, and have disgusting consistency. Probably because I almost never drink it. I don't know what possesses me to do so every once in a blue moon because I wind up bitching about this every time.
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>>127116448
I don't think it's a matter of drinking regularly or not, it's just that you're sensitive to caffeine.
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>>127116847
It's not caffeine because I can drink tea or energy drinks without getting shits. The problem is tea isn't strong enough and energy drinks make me nauseous.

I'm gonna stop blogging now. Happy 3rd Impact guys.
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ded
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>>127119397
Samarecarm
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>>127119619
As'salamu alaykum to you too my Muslim brother
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>>127120898
Recarmloss? Magidyne, bufu zio. Recarm pulinpa.
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>>127116949

Coke zero has more caffeine than a normal man needs, try it but careful because you can become addicted so easy. They pump a shit ton of caffeine on that thing so it can taste better.

Slow BBQ some good meat today goddamn I wish family was never here. What a good NYE, now if only that mofo Red Rider decides to pop up on that fucking room it would be perfect .
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>>127114698
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1-3 ~ keep up with Naoya's path in DeSu OC
4-5 ~ start Ys Chronicles
6-9 ~ play Soul Hackers
O ~ have some coffee and read a book
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>>127125928
>Ys Chronicles
Literally the only good Ys. you can wrap up them up (I+II) in less than 15 or maybe even 10 hours anon. Just pick that one and go for it.
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1-3 Raidou 1.
4-6 DDS1.
7-9 Rewatch EoE.
0 Nothing.
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>>127125928
>>127114698
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>>127126030
IT ALL RETURNS TO NOTHING...
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Since everyone's rolling, I'll roll too.

1~3 - Nuclear Throne
4~6 - Rune Factory 4
7~9 - Go for the last route on DeSu OC
0 - Shitpost on /v/
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>>127126028
I was told that the series was pretty good.

Your words fill me with disappointment.
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>>127126339
I'll rephrase my earlier reply.
Ys I and II are the only ones with good story.
After those, just play Ys Origin (PC), III (Oath in Felghana) and maybe Seven and consider the series done.
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>>127126461
Nice; I had those in mind.
I'm currently Once my donwload, finishes I'm gonna give them a go.
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>>127126576
Go for it. You can also play Ys V on a SNES emulator but that ones is just plain horrible.
Origins and Oath in Felghana have godly gameplay.
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>>127126701
>Ys V on a SNES emulator but that ones is just plain horrible.
>Gideon wasted time translating Ys IV and V even though not even the fanbase wanted them instead of working on if...
Fuck this shit.
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>>127084941
>Kanbari Nyudo hototogisu, Arigatou Kabari-Sama

I can feel a shit coming on, hope this works since I had bad one yesterday.
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Fine, I'll do it
0~3 - DoDonPachi
4~6 - Play an SMT I've never played before
7~9 - Axiom Verge
0 - Super Mario Maker
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>>127114698
I got a few.
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>>127114698
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>>127114698
Afraid I only have official art.

Not that that's a bad thing.
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>>127132190
>>127132391
>>127132757
Every Hacker is welcome. Thanks!
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>>127114698
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>>127114698
And another.
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>>127135246
kek
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why is the board so fast today
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>>127138825
I think a better question is why is this thread so ded today.
>inb4 first day of the year
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I can't tell if SMTIVF is going to be super character-driven or not. But this time they definitely want players to care about their in-game friends more than usual.
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>>127140102
So just like IV?
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>>127140102
I can't help but feel like DonteFiend is gonna be lonelier than Flynn.
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>>127140102
I hope we still get to kill them.
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>>127127215
I don't wanna break the bubble for you, but judging by the posts from the anons who have played if... the game seems to be rather shitty.
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>>126945827
>Walter just bitched out to find whatever Lilith was talking about after clashing swords with Jonathan
How far into the game am I?

I want to try Nocturne before the semester break's over.
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>>127140468
Would it be a mainline game if we couldn't?
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>>127140663
Like about 70% if you go chaos or law, 60% if you go neutral, and 80% if you go White.
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>>127140663
around 50% I'd say
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>>127140945
That's really useful to know, thanks.
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>>127140287
They did a pretty bad job. That's why I don't expect them to do well in that department again.
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>>127141402
I'll just warn you that the White ending sucks balls.
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>>127141782
I liked it if only from the "What the fuck" reaction it gave me.
It was more interesting than the Neutral ending, honestly. That was really sudden and abrupt and it kinda annoyed me.
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>>127140468
They're going to make you adore Asahi and then force you to kill her in one of the routes. I say one instead of all because it's pretty obvious she's supposed to be the Heroine in this game
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>>127142470
I hope she dies in every route but one.
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>>127142882
I hope she dies in every route.
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>>127140531
Yeah, I saw his posts here. Still wanna see how bad it is though.
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>>127127215
From what i hear of If... i understand why Gideon choose to do something else.
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How is MT2 compared to MT1? I'm playing KMT right now and I'm almost finished with MT1. It's pretty cool for a game as old as it is but it's not very exciting. I hear MT2 is more like the SMT I know?
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>>127142470
I hope not. I find her voice, face, and story implications to be pretty annoying.

Give me Toki or give me death.
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Is Black Frost any good in DeSu OC?

Iwant to have him in my party, but it seems like Marie and Naoya outrank him in every single way.
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>>127143274
She won't, even Isabeau survives in one route.
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>>127144639
I do hope everyone but Toki die in her route or whatever stuff we get.
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>>127144437
It's proto-SMT and arguably more fun to play than SMT1 and 2 for SNES.
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>>127145218

Black Frost's main advantage is his elemental resistances.
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>>127142470
>They're going to make you
And that's going to backfire.
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>>127142470
>They're going to make you adore Asahi
I don't give a rat's ass about her. I do like her design, though.
Nozomi/Toki or bust.
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I play Persona 4 for the visual novel elements. I only want to feel good with virtual friends in a comfortable atmosphere. Shin Megami Tensei and Persona 1 2 are unappealing to me as they are too hardcore, with their RPG dungeon-crawling. Plus, my beloved waifu Chie only exists within the Persona universe. You are free to enjoy SMT - but I think I'lll stick to Persona.
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>>127149703
Shut the fuck up Isamu and get good at videogames
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>>127149703
Persona 2 is easier than P4 desu.
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>>127149703
Shut-up Tyrone.
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>>127149703
>Persona 1 2 are unappealing to me as they are too hardcore
>feel good with virtual friends
>Has Chie for waifu
Toppest of shit taste.
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>>127149703
Why don't you play a real Shin Megoomy Tensay game, like Nocturne or Strange Journey? Persona is a casualized dating sim that appeals to lonely waifufags.
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>>127149849
>Persona 2 is easier than P4 desu.
But P2 has shit gameplay. Not that P4 is much better due to the limited number of elements and shitty enemy AI.
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Stream
Fucking
When?
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>>127150616
This, i rather play P4 again than having to go through Xibalba again.
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>>127151425
>those awful, confusing and downright shitty dungeon designs
I'm not a big fan of the random dungeons in P3 and P4 but those are infinitely better than P2's dungeons.
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Is SMT1 supposed to be retarded easy and annoying?

>Fight Boss whose's level is 40 times yours.
>Heroine uses Zionga
>Boss is shocked
>Punch him
>Repeat

>Take one step
>Fight a crowd of 5 enemies
>Auto
>Another crowd appears
>Auto
>Another crowd appears
>Auto
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>>127151741
I wouldn't mind the dungeons if the combat was fun and didn't happen every 5 steps.

>Nyarls dungeon
I started savescumming just so i wouldn't have to fight.
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>>127152040
I used Estoma.
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>>127149703
That's cool, but nobody cares about your shit taste.
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>>127151857
Yes. Get estoma as soon as you can.
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>>127152110
The main personas don't have Estoma, i think.
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>>127152348
Just get other personas. Not him but I got the estoma card in Caracol I think and used it on Abe no Seimei and it helped me a lot.
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>>127151857
Don't get used to the easiness of 1 if you are playing 2 nex2 though.
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>>127149703
>all these newfags who reply unironically
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I really hope none of you trusted this guy.
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>>127157184
>Trusting anyone with a smug face

You just don't do that.
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>>127157448
Huh, you're right. Everyone who had a smug face in SMT betrays you in some way.
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>>127157448
Sometimes it can't be helped.
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>>127157448
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>>127157448
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>>127157448
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>>127157448
Well lads
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>>127157448
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>>127144437
MT2 is the rough draft SMT2's plot. It's retarded, but in a charming way. I felt that the game design and balance weren't quite as good as MT1, but it was still reasonably fun. If nothing else, at least for the brain damaged protagonist is pretty funny.
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