Mass Effect Andromeda bait

I can't wait for the skinner box gameplay.

>>363336506
All videogames are skinner boxes. It's why they aren't art

>>363336506
why would a single player rpg besides a diablo clone have skinner box gameplay

This game will be good.

GAME

NOT

INCLUDED

>we made a shitty game in the past
>you are unreasonable to be pessimistic about our new game
Bioware can just go fuck itself. I'll always be mad.

>>363336417
I really doubt she said that

How many trillions of colors of endings will it have?

>>363337330
It'll be a rainbow or some shit.

Will I be able to play this game looking out for the interests of humanity and humanity alone?
I mean, I'm meant to be the Pathfinder for humamnity should I care for other species?

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>>363336417
>no pessimist ever did anything

>"show me a hero and I will write you a tragedy"
F Scott Fitzgerald author of "The Great Gatsby"

>"Life is divided into the horrible and the miserable"
Woody Allen

>"Happiness in inelegant people is the rarest thing I know"
Ernest Hemingway

>"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe"
Albert Einstein

Seems that pessimists did alright.

>>363336417
"bui aefoesdimset ebrb fhgsrkhgityh yrhjr seresu uuysf hdirieals wbeagimrglewuiotb iweriugrtuisdl eilgglr , d ghggb nwg drngegcfdvadfl" - Helen Keller

>>363337583
>Woody Allen fucked his adopted Asian loli and everybody still loves him
What is his secret fellas? Jew magic?

>>363337787
>Jew magic

Exactly this, that and being a pessimist means you can do anything.

>>363337583
>filename
Ekshually, that statue is Inusannon, not Prothean.

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"Now you can continue to build that legend through further gameplay and downloadable content."

- EA/Bioware

All my Mass Effect hype died the day after ME3 came out and I was sitting on the toilet when I came across an article about how bad the ending is. I went to the fucking midnight release. I bought an N7 t shirt! Fuck you, Bioware.

>>363337946
Easily one of the most disappointing ending screens in all of video games.

>>363337917
Protheans had their own method of Romanization, the Inusannon would have called themselves Prothean after a while.

>>363337917
They can try and retcon it as much as they like to justify their laziness but It'll always be Prothean to people who aren't ME3 shitters.

>>363337946
still mad

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>>363337961
>I went to the fucking midnight release. I bought an N7 t shirt!

>>363338175
Because I was hype for ME3, dipshit.

>>363338063
I think you mean THE most disappointing and aggravating ending screen period.

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>>363337946
ME3 DOES NOT EXIST, EVERYONE DIES IN THE SUICIDE MISSION

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>>363338286
>Because I was hype for ME3, dipshit.
Well I didn't do those things so maybe you're the real dipshit here.

>>363337961
>having hope for bioware after ME2 and DA2

Mass Effect is a flaming pile of shit and I'll have no more part of it, especially when they're hiring racists.

I won't even pirate Andromeda, because I feel 0 dollars is too much to ask for a game made by such a hateful person. Talk to me when they're gonna give me money to play the game and maybe I'll give it a shot.

It's such a shame because I really liked the first one.

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>>363336417

You're the ones that made my a pessimist Bioware.

>>363336417
If Bioware wants people to be optimistic about Bioware maybe they should try not fucking up everything they touch?

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>>363338441
Hiring racists you say?

>remember, EA hid behind a wall of tolerance for gays but happily lets this fucker shitpost white people as much as he likes

>>363336417
No optimist ever sailed out of their safe space either.

>>363337787
story?

>>363338095
They're from different cycles

>>363338441
I mean the racist programmer is annoying, sure.
I'm more concerned about the current writing staff.

Bioware games were at a certain standard of writing beforehand, but the really good talent has buggered off somewhere else and we're left with people that give lacklustre ideas a pass.

>>363339169
It's a well known fact that Bioware's PR department spends all their day staring at the latest batch of retardation they have to deal with, and slowly sobbing into their drinks.

>>363339241
>programmer
Gameplay designer, m80.

Do you know what a gameplay designer does? It's not a minor league job.

>>363339217
http://pagesix.com/2015/07/30/woody-allen-soon-yi-responded-to-me-because-i-was-paternal/

That's probably got a heavy liberal bias, not sure. I mean it's a weird story no matter what you think.

>>363339478
>Gameplay designer
Please tell me you're joking, right?
Please?

Anon, my heart can't take this.

>>363339478
see:
https://twitter.com/manveerheir

>>363339241
Yea most of the talent bled out overtime or got worse in their standards of writing. Both ME and DA:O had a few years of dev time to polish things if I remember right. I know the original DA team (who could pump out a perfectly decent and fun rpg) got replaced by the arrogant new kids that wrote DA 2 in like a third of the dev time of DA1.

EA doesnt manage their series for narrative polish. They care about numbers and efficiency. Old Bioware was never really efficient (their games typically had oblong dev times). It's two years or bust and development starts immediately after the release.

That's usually enough to kill creativity.

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>>363339241
>I'm more concerned about the current writing staff.

Don't be, the new writing staff will make sure to create a game free of concerns, a safe-space, if you will :^)

Will you discover the remnants of an ancient civilization in Andromeda, and maybe awaken the ancient evil that destroyed them?

>>363340108
Honestly? From the trailer's my money's on both here.

>>363337787
Have you seen her? She's not a looker, man. That's true love.

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>>363338161

>>363340275
She was a looker when she was a loli presumably.

>>363339926
Tbh its not the hair color
The personality she transmits through that message and books reek of sheltered naivette so ever present in tumblr

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>>363340108
Yes, the remnants of the ancient civilization are literally called "Remnants" and the villains are the "Kett".

>>363339883
It's a shame.
Old Bioware was worth the wait, managed to deliver on some decent plots and lore.
Even managed to make me care about my party enough to want to talk to them all at camp or where ever we were in between killing things.

>>363339926
But aren't narratives that are devoid of conflict, be it interpersonal, a conflict of ideology etc. incredibly boring?

So /v/ who else is going to buy the Deluxe Edition?

>>363340559
it will turn out that they are distant cousins of the collectors, both branched off from a "main race" of superevil beings with great power/technology who will become the primary villains in a later game

>My prediction

Much like DA:I it will release to critical praise and end up somewhere on a game of the year list. Bioware is a critical darling who has a very 'hip' view of things and was seen as the underdog for the longest time compared to jrpgs. I dont expect to see any major critques of Bioware's story telling or design, especially not from mainstream critics. On /v/ there will be endless shitposting and jokes made during the release week. After the hype dies down people will ready for the next big game. Fans of the ME series will say it's "good" like they said for the last three games. On /v/ you'll have the apologists show up at the end of the month talking about how it's a better game than Inquisition or ME3. The ME general (which is at it's like 10k thread) will have new waifu material to endless post.

I think we'll need another six bioware games because popular opinion turns against it and it becomes the Square-Enix of the future.

>>363340384
Google it. She was not.

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>>363340705
i think we're all agreed that anyone who buys this game is an idiot

What if it's good?

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>>363337946
you just have to slap them a little bit

>>363340657
A story without conflict is not a story.

If you write a story without a conflict, I call that "wasting the audience's time".

>>363340804
>end up somewhere on a game of the year list.

I doubt it, DA:I only managed to get GOTY because 2014 was a terrible year for gaming.

Now 2017 Andromeda will be against heavy hitters like Red Dead Redemption 2 and the new Zelda, if it is as mediocre as Inquisition it will get wiped off the floor.

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>>363341098
fool me once, shame on you
fool me twice, shame on me

>>363341098
If it's good, and there is a lot going against it here, the gunplay might still be fun but I am not gonna hold my breath.
If it is good, somebody at Bioware woke up from their drug coma, saw all the shit going wrong and punched everybody in the cunt, made them clean up their act and went right into working on unfucking the major aspects of the game before being hit with another heroin dart.

>>363341098
it's made and led by inexperienced team with an agenda and no real love for old sci fi

But then again, multiplayer people are the same team that made MP in ME3, but I doubt that MP DLCs will free this time around

>>363341306
Right out of the game Andromeda is up against shit like Gravity Rush 2 and Nioh, as well a Nier and Resident Evil 7.

That's just in the first half of the year.

>>363341451
>fool me twice, shame on me
Nah, still shame on them for being cunts and shitting over your good will.
They're unworthy of your trust at that point.

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>>363336417
>Ancient SJW Helen Keller
Made my brain work

>>363341119
>Halo Reach
>Bungi's last Halo game
>credits roll after a satisfying conclusion
>thank you fans for supporting us all this time

>ME 3
>Bioware's masterpiece conclusion to the acclaimed ME series
>credits roll after a logically dumb ending that really falls apart with the most basic questions. That none of these questions are considered. That gives the feeling that this game was written by a high-schooler (there are other examples of dumb writing too)
>HEY GUYS THANKS, WE HAVE MORE DLC IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU TO BUY

I know people talk about gaylo and dude-bro culture being the death of gaming, but just... wow.

Did Helen Keller write that in her journal when she was hiding from the nazis?

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>MASS EFFECT IS BAD BECAUSE ONE SHITSKIN TRIGGERED ME I NEED MY WHITE SAFESPACE NOW

>>>/pol/

>>363339926
Why do I feel pressure from this picture? The girl is alright but everything else reeks of well hidden hatred.

>>363340384
And if it was just that, he would have dumped her when she stopped being a looker and found another loli. He's a successful jew in hollywood. He would have been able to get a dozen lolis a day if that's all he wanted.

Now Roman Polanski on the other hand...

Not gonna buy a game that has an avowed racist gameplay developer. And EA actually lets him get away with it.

https://twitter.com/manveerheir

>>363341891
/thread

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>>363341850
That wasn't Hellen Keller, that was Anne Frank.
I've never read her diary if that's what you were getting at anon, so my autism could be shining through.

>>363341898
You can sense the killing intent, congratulations you're an anime protagonist.

>>363336417
>game not included

i preordered it because i want to suffer

even after Mass Effect 3 i am still so much in love with the franchise that i cant help it. my life sucks and mass effect helped me get through some though times. none of the sjw can be excused nor should it be supported but i have literally nothing going on in my life

hopefully this game will be so bad that my love will turn into pure hatred and i can finally move on

>>363341306
If you're right than it'd be a pretty landmark thing for a Mass Effect or Dragon Age game to not receive a nomination. I believe even DA2 was on a game of the year nominee list on several big name Gaming mags of the time (PcGamer, Gamespot, and Game informer)

my purchase of the game relies solely on if there are any quarian waifus.

if there are, when it gets to 10 dollars I'll buy it.

>>363342317
you are weak, i was like you but i already moved on
not gonna buy andromeda unless it's the next coming of christ

>>363342509
>quarian waifus

Given the crappy premise of the arks i seriously doubt that there are any Quarians on board

>>363342317
You need to read through more Andromeda threads. It would help to brainwash you into not buying it (quite justifiable in this case). Save your 60 bucks, anon. Buy yourself something nice instead.

>>363342549
i just hope you're immune to hype, because believe me, the hype train is going to come into the station at full fucking speed with no brakes

>>363342317
Show him all the webms, quick!

>>363340430
It's also the hair colour. Image is important, and retarded hair colour speaks volumes about a person.

>>363341898
because there's something called unprofessional friendliness combined with some warning signs thay indicate sentimental writing (I cry in video game scenes).

Also dyed hair and big glasses nowadays is like the fedora, it's tainted. It's like seeing such a thing makes you think of blogpost rants about mansplaining and binary gender. Even if she doesn't do such a thing, your brain is going to be concerned

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Are there people who are born Deaf and Blind?
I literally couldn't imagine a worse existence than being born Death and Blind.

>>363343021
>Also dyed hair and big glasses nowadays is like the fedora, it's tainted.
The power of real life memes.

>>363342810
Trust me, andromeda hype will not phase me. Unless, like i said, it's the next coming of christ of video games, i won't buy it.

>>363343114
There are techniques used specifically for those that have these conditions.
Assisted living is more or less essential for it.

Brail was a godsend.

>>363341451
That Gamestop ad is most likely intentional in order to have similar imagery to the Walking Dead ad, so I wouldn't label it and incompetence or laziness.

>>363336564
Technically anything created can be art since there's no limit/criteria on "expression" unless specified.

Producers/publishers just don't give a fuck unless money is behind it (or attention if Indie). Even for books, photography and paintings too.

>>363343170
They really are.

It's like a guy walking around nowadays with a mullet, a wifebeater shirt and a thick pedo moustache. He could be a famous novelist, but he's probably gonna look like white trash to you.

>>363341451
Once was DA2, or ME 2 depending on your perspective
Twice was the TORtanic
Thrice was ME3
The fourth was DA:I

Anyone that gets fooled a fifth time needs to be removed from the gene pool for the good of mankind

>>363342317

I know exactly how you feel.

Bioware pissed me off so badly with what they did to this series but I can't stop loving it. I just have too many good memories from the series that are the only beacons of life in my shitty, dark life. I remember playing ME2 on my 26th birthday and feeling depressed about being a friendless, jobless virgin but cheering up instantly when I finished Tali's romance. I remember the hype of ME3 being the only thing keeping me going on some of my darkest days. I remember spending hundreds of hours making the PERFECT Shepard and making the PERFECT choices in ME1 and ME2 in preparation. I remember the horrible disappointment of ME3 and literally shedding tears when I saw what they did with Tali and the stock photo. I remember the pain being somewhat eased with the later DLC they released, which gave me hope for the future of the series. This series is the only thing that's kept me from just ending it all during the darkest moments of my life, and that hope that the series can once again be as good as it once was is the only thing that keeps me going even today because shit hasn't gotten better.

This probably sounds pathetic but I don't care. Mass Effect pretty much saved my life and I'm hoping Bioware can prove everyone wrong with Andromeda.

>>363343626
Would it kill people to show a little professionalism?

>>363343371
>Hey there's this pretty cool mysterious add for this super popular series
>We should reuse it to milk some of imagery.
>Hey let's add orange and blue to our cover and have it be a gruff military person looking at the camera, statistics say that's good enough to attract attention.

ME 3 was slapped together on a tight budget with limited time and limited creativity on hand. It is the epitome of shortcuts in artistic and story design.

>>363343741
It sounds very sad. Can you search for a writer of ME1 and tell him how he made you feel, maybe it will make you feel better?

>>363343652
but I liked ME2

>>363343741
Is this what they call stockholm syndrome? I never could be bothered to look up its exact nuances.

I am sort of in the same boat, I loved Halo. Then 343 got their hands on it. I had intense buyer's remorse, but went back for the MC collection. Don't do it, trust me, it is never worth it. Just pretend it's an entirely new dev team, get yourself into that mindset. You're currently thinking it's the lovable faceless dev team of Bioware, when you should be thinking of them as a bunch of interns masquerading around in bioware's flesh that EA stitched together when they cleared out anyone that knew anything about making good games. Don't support the skinwalker puppet, it's not what you think it is. It's not Mass Effect you're going to be playing, it's skinwalker trash wearing the corpse of Mass Effect.

The premise is bullshit and everything that made franchise is stuck in the Milky Way.

They should have just declared destruction canon and produced a sequel set in a post reaper war milky way. Give it a small time skip and put it in the time frame when the relay network is about to be fixed.

There is tons of shit to do from reconnecting with council races to potential conflicts with levithans/reaper survivors that could lead us to their spot in dark space and maybe expand on their actual purpose (lets just write off the starchild as a last attempt to trick shepard)

>>363344148
I hated every single game play change and it was a pretty big red flag with how dumbed down everything was compared to 1. I didn't touch a single Bioware game after ME2 and they haven't proven me wrong once.

This is coming from someone who still has the collector's edition for the ME1 strategy guide, so I was a pretty big fan at first.

>>363343353
how the fuck could you even teach someone who cant see, or cant hear brail? Seems pretty impossible, i think the story is bullshit

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>>363343741
You're like a battered housewife, going to sleep every day with an ever larger bruise hoping for your beloved to "come back to his senses".

Honestly you deserve everything that's coming to you come March 21st.

>>363342090
I was referencing Clerks II but good on you for being a genuine soul.

>>363343959
Video games are an emerging medium and the hipster circle got really popular for a time. It was all about sticking to the man and showing that games can be unique and could be artistic.

Most of this is done by showing up to work looking like you came from hot-tropic. It's just a fashion fad, eventually it'll be regard as kinda douchey- especially when some new hype fad shows up to piss off to fedoras and dyed hair folks.

>>363344201
>You're currently thinking it's the lovable faceless dev team of Bioware, when you should be thinking of them as a bunch of interns masquerading around in bioware's flesh
Exactly. Nowadays Bioware is just a bloated corpse filled with shit and nesting maggots (new devs) feeding off it, drifting down the river until it falls off the waterfall spectacularly or quietly sinks and let all the shit out in the water.

>>363343741
mass effect truly was something special that will get its entry in the book of "what could have been"

>>363343741
>I'm hoping Bioware can prove everyone wrong with Andromeda
Doesn't look like that's the case judging by the gameplay that's been released.

>>363344446
It's not through, never underestimate the dedication of some people.
Never ever underestime the lengths some people will go to find another way to improve another's life.

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>>363344742
>judging by the gameplay that's been released

Gameplay looks good. The racist poo in loo seems to have culturally appropriated japan by ripping of vanquish a bit

>>363343741
sounds like your life is just uneventful and you latch on to things and make them more grand than they really are. Try doing stuff instead of sitting at home jerking off playing vidya

>>363343114
People who are deaf and/or blind aren't usually 100% deaf/blind and can use those senses to some extent, albeit very poorly. Even so, they have braile at their disposal.

The true MVPs are quadriplegics.

>>363344773
>Helen Keller was born with the ability to see and hear. At 19 months old, she contracted an illness described by doctors as "an acute congestion of the stomach and the brain", which might have been scarlet fever or meningitis. The illness left her both deaf and blind.

Yeah so she had a concept of language before she went blind and deaf. If she was blind and deaf from the get-go, no way could she ever comprehend what language is.

>>363344914
>Try doing stuff instead of sitting at home jerking off playing vidya

Not him but what are you supposed to do these days? Seems like everyone always gives that token advice but cant tell you what to do.

>>363342121
Underrated.

I have absolutely no faith in nu-BioWare either from a gameplay or a story perspective. Maybe the OST will have some bangers but that's it.

>>363344890
>good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESUFJm_g42c

>>363336417
That's really deep and all but it essentially amounts to "fuck you for critiquing our game. Be a risk taker and just buy it you fuck" in context.

Game probably won't be that bad, will probably be passable and contain that bioware "charm" (glitches, odd animations, etc.). I just can't imagine how unappealing returning to the ME universe will be for many considering the ME3 debacle.

>>363345162
Not him, but I took up photography.

>>363339638
>23-year relationship with Soon-Yi Previn
fuck, in that pic i would never give her less than 35~40
does living with jews include premature aging? and i'm pretty sure jews drink youngsters blood in attempts to keep themselves from dying

"No woman has ever contributed anything of value to society." - Melissa McCarthy

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>>363344252
STOP IT! IT JUST HURTS MORE

>>363336605
>why would a single player rpg besides a diablo clone have skinner box gameplay
Everything with xp/levels/resources/quest rewards has skinner box gameplay after a fashion.

If you're rewarded for doing things then it's literally Skinner Box gameplay. That's what Skinner Boxes model.

So yes, >>363336506's comment is kind of retarded and >>363336564 is at least half right. We can debate the art part of their post.

>>363343741
you and me both dude. maybe we should meet up in biodrones anonymous

>>363344890
>Gameplay looks good in an rpg

That's nice. But what about the story and presentation, is that stellar?

>>363345081
>The true MVPs are quadriplegics.
Let's play a game - would you rather lose both your legs or one of your arms?

Penis still works, and you get to pick the arm.

>>363345239
please tell me whats wrong with it

>>363344890
>>363345239
What the gameplay really suffers from is a lack of good sound and visual effects. Every weapon fired and ability utilized lacks any real punch to it. The explosions that occur don't have any real dimension to them either. They just kind of peter out and wisp away. It's fucking infuriating that BioWare would come this far and neglect that.

Andromeda getting pushed to Q4 this year or Q1 of next year so they can polish it would be the best possible thing. As it stands it's going to suck a crooked mile of dick on release and, on the whole, be a solid 6/10. I just know it is. Hopefully the multiplayer will redeem it.

>>363336417
A pessimist is what an optimist calls a realist.

A character in your own fucking game said it once.

>>363345462
>story
We know nothing about it except for the premise which is total bullshit and doesnt work with the established lore

>presentation
Looks pretty good

>>363345162
I took up woodworking and toy making and I've started learning how to draw. Not good at any of them yet, but still.

Want to go out more? Take up shooting or hunting or just camping. Biking, urban exploring, farming... Or just try and make real friends.

>>363345257
>Game won't be that bad.
Not from a gameplay standpoint at least, the guns will fire correctly and the biotic powers seem alright.
But it won't be anything ground breaking.

Everything else will be toloerable if it doesn't try to be preachy.

>>363345680
Ashley aka crator on virmire said it

>>363345521
Both my legs. If the cock still works then you have nothing to really fear save for assholes giving you shit unnecessarily. If you lose your arms then you lose the ability to care for yourself and actually be a contribution to your family/society/friends.

Wait, shit, you said one of your arms. I'd rather lose one of something to then two of something else so, yeah, one arm. The left one. It may be stronger but it's not my dominant.

>>363345332
you know that its bad when average joes on internet forums can think of better sequel ideas than the actual writers

>>363345845
Ea probably pretends mass effect 1 never happened, because we all know the last part of something is the best one to start on.

>>363345521

Left arm. Hopefully technology advances in my lifetime to the point where I can get a Venom Snake bionic arm.

as long as you're still mad, I'm winning

>>363345364
>If you're rewarded for doing things then it's literally Skinner Box gameplay.
That is the vaguest and most general statement I've ever heard including this one :^) I am rewarded for reading a book - I guess books are just skinner boxes now? I'm rewarded for writing one, I'm rewarded for learning a new language, I'm rewarded for eating and breathing for goodness sake.

>>363345239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F9_whgp2E0
13:00 and onward, they tried to copy ME1 a little bit
but only ME1 felt as whole game thematically, art style and all, others game (probably MA too) feel like a mix of everything good and bad
does anybody else feel like it

>>363344148
In retrospect, ME 2 was the harbinger of everything bad bioware would represent, but it's not exactly a sin to still enjoy t for what it is.

>>363345162
anything that's busywork for your hands or involves the outdoors is great.

Some kind of craft hobby, fishing, hiking, gardening. Be more open and talk to strangers maybe you'll make some new friends, then you can share their interests

>>363345162
>Read the classic novels (like try reading Ulysses, its a strange and fun experience)
>Go through the catalogue of the Old Masters (you know artists who make marble look like flesh)
>Explore music and introduce yourself to folk music from a cultural you've never seen
>reas about mythology from some horse lord culture
>Listen to podcasts about political history or the history of a country that always interested you
>Learn a trade like some carpentary
>learn how to draw or write better so you can make sick fetish shit to masturbate to.
>take one of those free MIT lecture courses on some obscure subject
>Take up a new tv series or watch an old one (HBO Rome)
>Play some classic game series with some updates (FO2 with hd mods or Open-Xcom)
>spend some time exercising to build some body mass and reduce fat
>Go dating
>Read any of a thousand decent novels

There has never been a time in history when the average person has everything available to become a true polymath. I made it a life goal to know a little something about every nation's history so I'm never lost when geography is brought up.

What's your excuse, anon?

>>363336506
What's wrong with skinner boxes? If nothing else, at least they're rewarding.

>>363342206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4aYhdwJpj0

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>>363345162

have you considered exploring shooting as a hobby

>>363345526
>changing classes on the fly
>cover system made useless
>shitty feedback
>everything sounds and looks the same
>

>>363345714
>Presentation
>looks pretty good

A bioware game with good facial, lip-sync and character animations AND good graphics? Color me impressed.

>>363337583
You got your Hemingway quote so wrong it changed it's meaning completely.
>inelegant
should be
"Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know"

>>363346406
Ok, wise guy, tell me about the Oirat.
>inb4 first result from google

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It's shit.
It's always been shit.
It will never be anything BUT shit.

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>tfw Drew Karpyshyn works for Bioware again but will have no input on MA or any other Mass Effect universe related thing

>>363347457
Alien had a hard life.

>>363341817
>IWW member
kek I only though she was a meme because her name sounded funny. I didn't realize she was a radical communist meme

>>363337787
>fucked his adopted Asian loli and everybody still loves him
>What is his secret fellas?
He wrote funny movies/plays and the family situation is too messy for outsiders to judge. That's literally it.

It's arguably a form of cognitive dissonance, people want to laugh at his movie, they'd feel guilty because he's immoral. So they deny that he's immoral. I know, I agree with you anon, his writing shouldn't have anything to do with who he's fucking but that's people for you, they don't like to credit artists who are terrible people.

You see /pol/ do something similar with Trump, being unable to admit a flaw in the man because it would question their judgement in supporting him, so they end up denying really obvious stuff and descending into ad hominems.

The loli (Soon-Yi Previn) was in her teens, supposedly 'late teens' but who knows. Her adopted mother found nude polaroids that Woody Allen had taken. Woody Allen and Mia Farrow never got married, they were a de facto couple.

Woody and Soon-Yi are basically unrelated, she was adopted by Mia Farrow and her ex-husband. Woody Allen formally adopted some of Mia's children but only a couple. They adopted two more together. She adopted 10 children and gave birth to four, one might be Allen's or might be Sinatra's, she said that she 'never really broke up with him'. She was a bit of a head case. Some of her children said that she made them make false accusations against Woody Allen too.

So shit is really, really complicated in that whole family and it's best just not to get involved because who the fuck knows what is going on.

>>363347784
Fun fact, the guy who played Alien in the first movie killed himself after shooting

>>363347036
I'm still getting through the European revolutionary period.

I'm off on a spin in south America to end the Spanish Empire.

I've been through American history in the revolutionary and gilded age into the modern era (glided age is scary). I'm still looking for good sources on Native American histories, since that's my next zone of interest after the Turks.

I've already gone through Roman, Byzantine (they are two different, but similiar cultures to me). For Asia I followed the Khans and ended up following Japan for a while.

In Europe I'm still putting together the Medieval picture in my head, honestly it's kind of a clusterfuck.

I've been at it as a side project for five years and only got this far. That's why I feel like it's going to be a life goal. I still havent touched much Islamic history, and that looks like a sea to dive through.

This would be my second time seeing the word Oirat, and I still havent gone done that hole yet.

>>363348120
I don't know why I chuckled as I was met with that information. Something about that fact combined with the image. Fuck me.

>>363348120

Wasn't it sickle cell?

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>>363348106
Soon-Yi was 19-21 when she and Woody consummated their love so it's not like he was tapping ripe yellow jailbait. Looking at her here I don't blame him for pursuing, though. She may have aged like milk but she was kinda cute in her youth.

>>363336417
Neither did a blind deaf and dumb woman

>>363336417
>that quote
bullshit, they're the one who keep the dreamer alive while they prance around dangerous shit.

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>>363348618
Correction. The leggy asian is Woody's daughter, not Soon-Yi.

What is the most essential Mass Effect kino?

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>>363340292
>>363338161

>>363348886
is that bernie sanders?

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>>363336417
If Andromeda allows my FemRyder (Male) to get bullied by a smelly krogan man, I'll pay Bioware any amount they want. Just plz let me have it, I need it

>>363340275
>Have you seen her? She's not a looker, man. That's true love.
She's ok. At least a 6/10, there's really nothing wrong with her.

>>363341945
>Roman Polanski
That pedo is a whole other story.

>>363342810
>the hype train is going to come into the station at full fucking speed with no brakes
Not in /v/ it's not. /v/ will be a daily redpill on ME:A. There will be such constant hate threads that it will be like they were stickied. If I feel tempted by ME:A in any way, I only need to open the catalog.

>>363341891
>/pol/ needs a safe space
kek, not entirely wrong either. Not the whole thread though.

>>363343114
>Are there people who are born Deaf and Blind?
Yes, more common than you'd think though it's not so surprising if you consider the developmental pathways of sight and sound. It's basically why she was so famous, she did a lot of stuff despite that.

>>363349128
look up the Von Neumann probe, find better SF stories than mass effect

>>363336605
>What is any Bethesda game

I loved the series. I didn't even mind the extended cut ending (with destroy of course). But I refuse to buy this solely on account of that racist developer.

>>363343652
But Inquisition was fun. FUN.

>>363349286
More likely they give you Ryder incest than that anon.

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>>363340559
>take a collector
>paint it grey
>'It's a new race!'
Great job Bioware, quality work as always.

>>363349879
The incest is the only thing keeping me slightly excited for Andromeda. DA2 was shit but the incest shit was nice.

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>>363349850

>>363350085
Hey, Bioware is now progressive and there is nothing as progressive as forbidden love.

Try saying that with a straight face, fucking hell.

>>363350085
Shame we couldn't actually hook up with Bethany despite her being Best Girl.

>>363349996
Glad I'm not the only one that could see that. Cut the big cockhead off and, yeah, you essentially have a gray Collector.

>>363337094
HUUUUUUUU NU NU UNNNNNNNN HUUUUUUUUUUN UN UN ~ Helen Keller

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>>363340559
The head looks pretty much the fucking same as the collector/protheans. They really lost me at ME2, glad I ended up pirating ME3.

>>363344002
>>Hey there's this pretty cool mysterious add for this super popular series
>>We should reuse it to milk some of imagery.
I hate bioware as much as you but that probably wasn't their fault.

Both ads are for Gamestop, some inhouse marketing team at Gamestop just ripped of their own previous ad to save time and money.

>>363344201
>Is this what they call stockholm syndrome? I never could be bothered to look up its exact nuances.
No, it's just gratitude and hope I think. Maybe a touch of cognitive dissonance but mostly just hope. You could define hope as mental illness if you want but I think that it's kind of depressing to do so.

Stockholm Syndrome doesn't apply because ME was essentially a good period followed by a bad period, or if you prefer, one or two good game followed by one or two good games with bad endings. Whatever you think of them, they were relatively consistent.

The key criteria in Stockholm Syndrome is randomness. There is consistent cruelty over a period with brief random acts of kindness, it leaves the victim always hoping for more kindness and they focus on the kindness more than the cruelty because of the contrast and it being more notable.

Cognitive dissonance is different and a bit complicated but essentially involves someone wanting to believe something despite evidence against it so they become increasingly irrational when confronted with evidence contradicting their belief, and so treat the evidence as a test of faith and increase their belief in the thing instead of decreasing their belief as a rational person would do.

>>363350804
Mafia 3 was basically the Punisher.
Didn't mind it.

>>363336605
Why did Inquisition?

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>>363350085
>DA2
>incest

>>363345162
>Not him but what are you supposed to do these days? Seems like everyone always gives that token advice but cant tell you what to do.

If you don't know what else to do with your life, go to college. If you're coasting for a few years, you may as well coast and learn something. Get some qualifications, get out into a job later.

>>363351203
We're talking rule 34 here underageb&

>>363350560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyPhsFxnc_c

>>363351203
There was a lot of porn of Hawke fucking Bethany.
Like a metric shit ton.

>>363351274
Nah, this is terrible advice, if you're coasting, you'll end up barely making it through college or maybe even failing if you don't care enough, anything you might learn will be in one ear and out the other or be gone before you can apply it professionally.

Instead, learn a trade. That way, even if you do nothing with it, you're still handy and can fix your plumbing/wiring/car/etc. yourself instead of getting ripped off by some jackass that will only do half a job so you have to call again.

>>363336417
Of course there's a quote by some literally irrelevant female "author". Jesus fucking Christ, can they stop?

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>>363339926

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>>363351356
>>363350560
Both you. Top marks.

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>>363350560

I love how triggered you little manchildren are about all this

>>363351680
yaaaay yaaaaay yaaaay

>>363344201
I understand you, ME got me into sci-fi, I started reading Asimov, Clark and Heinlein after finishing the series
But anon, please move on, there are a lot of fun mediums so to explore

>>363336417
There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his.
- Helen Keller

>>363345257
>Be a risk taker and just buy it you fuck
That's it in one.

It's no different to real-estate scammers telling people that their doubts are stopping them from becoming millionaires. Con artists always want people to not listen to their gut and to take risks and ignore their better judgement and their experience.

>>363346128
>I am rewarded for reading a book
The reward isn't contained in the book. Finding games rewarding isn't the Skinnerism, it's the rewards INSIDE the game that make you feel good and keep you playing it. Every DING, every 'YOU AM WINNER" etc.

Games give you those rewards to activate reward centres in your brain that provide feel-good neurotransmitters. It becomes mildly addictive.

MMOs are a weaponised form of it but almost all video games work on this principle and the ones that don't feel uninspiring because we're not getting a fix from them.

>>363346212
>In retrospect, ME 2 was the harbinger of everything bad bioware would represent, but it's not exactly a sin to still enjoy t for what it is.
I thought that it was actually really, really good except for maybe three things.
The ammo mechanic was shit, I much preferred the heat model from ME1
The final boss fight was retarded and brought down an otherwise perfectly written final mission.
The lazarus project was pointless. Why kill someone off just to resurrect them? Shitty writing IMO

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>"Andromeda's ending, however, will be "complex," and a "big, bold ending, much like Mass Effect 1 was. But it's got a bit more variation, more akin to Mass Effect 2 in it, based on how you play."

Take guesses on what it's going to be

>>363352146
ME was never sci-fi.
It was science fantasy, Biotics are basically wizards.

Dead Space was Sci-fi, albiet horror.

>>363352268
Red, green or blue hair

>>363352215
All hail the conqueror worm.
- Helen Keller

Do you still get all your side missions by listening in on conversations while your walking around. Other then the ending that was the stupidest part of ME3.

>>363349286
I'm probably going to pirate it for the tranny VA, though. The game will be shit but at least I'll get some enjoyment out of it.

>>363352009
It's more making fun of Andromeda, than being triggered.

>>363352268
Time-wimey nonsense.

>>363352146
>there are a lot of fun mediums so to explore
such as?

>>363352459
>tranny VA

What

>>363352620
Yeah look it up, she's actually pretty cute.

>>363352296
That's like saying Star Wars isn't sci-fi because of the Jedi.

>>363352268
Neither of those things because they're just pandering to fans of the series and they know they can't mention ME3.

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>>363352705
Pretty much, but more confined.

It's so much more noticeable in ME through, replace Krogans with Orcs, Asari with Elves and Salarians with Gnomes and you more or less have the exact same thing.

>>363350932
>we wuz punisher n shieeettttt

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>>363352009
>game looks like shit
>make fun of it
>Y-YOU GUYS ARE J-JUST TRIGGERED!!

Come on now, there's much better RPGs out there, such as Skyrim Remastered.

>>363352268
One ending, ONE! and nothing you do matters.

>>363352705
Star Wars isn't sci-fi. It's science fantasy. Science fiction is exploring the possibilities of future science in a realistic way as possible, having the science as the primary goal.

Star Wars is medieval fantasy with mystical religious power, swords and huge warships.

>>363352560
nah. there are kids on here truly bothered by some of the people involved in production an actually think the new femshep was designed after Anita

>>363353035
That's not being ''''''triggered''''' but okay.

>>363336417
“A pessimist is a man who thinks everybody is as nasty as himself, and hates them for it.”
-George Bernard Shaw
>heck they can't even do quotation marks right

>>363353348
I did know pessimist meant a man.
How surprising.
Hu.

>>363346406
most of that sounds like a boring chore at best

>>363353236
coming on a message board and complaining about something that bothers you, especially regarding this subject matter, is exactly what being triggered is

>>363336417
>UGH LIKE OUR GAME UNCONDITIONALLY YOU SHITLORDS

jesus mary and joseph

>>363346483
>What's wrong with skinner boxes? If nothing else, at least they're rewarding.
I see what you did there.

>>363346695
>Unemployed, miserable, dateless, jobless
>have you considered exploring shooting as a hobby?
What could go wrong?
Oh you.

>>363348787
>bullshit, they're the one who keep the dreamer alive while they prance around doinig dangerous shit.
Underrated.

>>363352296
>It was science fantasy, Biotics are basically wizards.
Biotics was basically the force
But Jedi are basically space monks

>>363353010
>Star Wars isn't sci-fi. It's science fantasy. Science fiction is exploring the possibilities of future science in a realistic way as possible, having the science as the primary goal.
>Star Wars is medieval fantasy with mystical religious power, swords and huge warships.
That's valid but the word you're looking for is Space Opera.

"no woman ever did it either" -helen keller

>>363353658
And Helen Keller.

>>363353637
Being triggered is literally freaking out about something, complaining is not being triggered.

>>363349360
>Yes, more common than you'd think though it's not so surprising if you consider the developmental pathways of sight and sound. It's basically why she was so famous, she did a lot of stuff despite that.
Yeah, like be a fucking parasite and advocate for communism, a system which would see people such as herself thrown into ovens for being a burden on the State.

Dumb liberal trash, though I suppose it demonstrates that the roots of groups demanding policies that would actually lead to their own deaths and torture goes back further than LGBT groups demanding unlimited muslim immigration to their neighborhoods.

>>363352268
NMS ending but with alternate colors.

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>>363349879
Fucking nu-bioware, just let me explore the galaxy as a femboy and get bullied by aggressive lizard men that have 4 balls. Is that really so much to fucking ask for?

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>>363339926
>dat fucking nose
Jesus

>>363338441
>It's such a shame because I really liked the first one.

Different era, different team.

>>363336417
>helen keller
Why do americans cling to that fictional story as if it's real, deep and meaningful?

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>those lip animations

>>363356083
What's wrong with fictional heroes?

>>363355390
Evidently, incest would be easier.

>>363336417
I laffed when I saw the quote because it is that quintessential "you can't even parody this because it's so obviously an obnoxious political decision to quote a crippled woman for privilege points" Bioware decision we've all come to know

>>363356417
How many more quotes like it do you think we'll get before the end of the pre-release period?

>>363356212
Don't quote them as if they're real. Quote the author. Also, wasn't the teacher the hero? For not giving up on a retard and all that.

>>363355674
Why did they put this in the trailer? It blows my mind that someone thought this was okay.

>>363357148
>teacher
Who? Helen Keller was self-taught.

>>363336564
That's only true of AAA games.

>>363356083
>Helen Keller is a fictional character
Yuropoor education, everyone

>>363338312
sauce

>>363357227
It's the best they had.

>>363355674
Why are all characters Mexicans?

>>363351680
Is that a screenshot from another game? The women look too beautiful to be from nu-Bioware.

>>363358278
Based on the armor, it looks like ME3.

>>363355674
Aren't you supposed to be in a new galaxy? Why are there human/turian/krogan settlements?

>>363358837
Apparently they launched the Andromeda initiative to launch ships full of species in order to colonize another galaxy.

>>363358837
Mass Relays

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Kett out.

>>363358837
The Arks were part of the Pathfinder program.
Basically you've been sent to find a place that's good for humanity to call home on Andromeda, and Earth 2.0.

The other species are much the same but for their own respective people, all council races have their own Ark.

Since I'm meant to be looking out for humanities interests I hope I can fuck-off all aliens.
Mission comes first.

>>363358837
Story Reason: 4 Council Races sent Arks over to Andromeda Galaxy and a Citadel-like Nexus staffed with a mix of all races (why you see Krogan)

The Nexus was sent first.

Real Reason: Because fans would want Turians, Krogans, Asari and Salarians to come along if Humans are in Andromeda

People are split on Quarians.

>>363359280
I'll say it again.

Instead of just Gray Rock, they should have made those parts Crystalline.

>>363359572
The real reason behind the real reason is that they went to Andromeda because Bioware didn't want to deal with continuing the story after the fuck up of the ME3 endings, so they are sidestepping them instead.

As part of that they had to give a reason for council races being present.

>be suspiciously silent about your game until only months before release
>only news about the game beforehand is about people leaving the game's development team
>fans you alienated with your previous game are resistant to any hype you try to generate for your new game
>dismiss your fans' concerns for being cautious despite you and the company that owns you demonstrating there's no reason for you to be trusted

This isn't a very good plan

>>363358837
Mass Effect: Andromeda is a soft-reboot, that's how bad ME was. That's why it's set in another galaxy. They're handwaving all of the logistical issues related to FTL drives with the ODSY drive system so suddenly species are capable of making the long trek to a different galaxy

>>363359572
Correction.
>Real Reason: We couldn't think up more origional races for a new galaxy, so we reused the old ones.

cant wait play this game maeby pre order

>>363359572
>Real Reason: Because fans would want Turians, Krogans, Asari and Salarians to come along if Humans are in Andromeda

No, the real reason is they are either too lazy or not creative enough ti come up with enough new races.

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>No Vorcha
>No Batarians
>No Quarians
>No Geth

>>363341891
>I have no problem supporting people who are openly and proudly racist

k

>>363360419
>No FUCKING WHITE MALES

>>363336670
dunno why this post made me laugh so hard

>>363360258
Come on man. You know fans would be upset if the Turians, Asari, and Krogans werent in the game. Im not saying Bioware isnt lazy, because they are, but likely the reason is to prevent obvious fan backlash

Even if the Krogran showing would be fucking retarded.

>>363359870
Literally no one would care about a Mass Effect game that didn't have the classic races. Especially when Mr. Rockhead is the best the current design team could come up with in terms of new species.

I thought the explanation was good enough, they thought we couldn't handle the reapers so they sent a Noah's ark into another galaxy.

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>>363360419
>No Quarians
>No Geth
Best parts of the original trilogy and Bioware tosses them out the door.

>>363360546
The timeline means they left before or around the same time as ME2, the Reapers weren't considered a threat by anyone until after ME2 ended.

>>363360546
Fair enough but it feels cheap in a way.
Bearing in mind that everybody sleeps for 200+ years while they make the journey to Andromeda.

It just feels like a cop-out.

>>363358820
Too bad Mass Effect will never look that good again.

>>363360818
>the Reapers weren't considered a threat by anyone until after ME2 ended
That's wrong. The only people who didn't consider them a threat were just pretending so that the masses wouldn't panic.

>>363361013
The armor in 3 really did look great.

>>363359828
>They're not continuing the story after 3
Would you want to? I sure as fuck wouldn't.

Have fans bitch at me because I pick my choices as Canon and not their shitty choice, no thanks I'd rather sidestep.

And a Prequel would be even more limp than going into a seperate Galaxy and bringing the aliens from the Milky Way

>>363336417
>"kill all fucking white males and japs too"
-helen keller

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>>363361135
I like Andromeda's armor better because it's that vintage look that ME1 had. Only now it's actually high definition instead of blurry.

>>363361367
>Only now it's actually high definition
But there is not one hi res texture in that whole pic you posted.

>>363361192
>Would you want to? I sure as fuck wouldn't.
Exactly. The endings were so bad they entirely prevent any exploration of the series after that point in time without doing what they're doing in Andromeda by going 2.5 million LYs and 600 years away.

>>363361509
It's the video codec. The game looks better than any ME before because they finally got rid of the shit 15 year old engine.

>>363360419
>Vorcha
Probably show up in MP

>Geth
Wouldn't make sense

>Quarians
Don't expect a lot but I'd be surprised if there weren't at least 1 or 2. Also See Vorcha.

>Batarians
That wouldn't make much sense. Batarians hate everyone.

>Drell
See Quarians and Vorcha.

>>363360897
Oh it's a copout but considering the alternatives, I think this is the best possible option to make a new Mass Effect.

>>363361724
>It's the video codec.
Alright. I just hope it doesn't look like everything is covered in grease like DA:I.

You know there is going to be that one special snowflake quarian who somehow made it to the Andromeda, maybe she snuck up on the ship or something.

Also, she has a bootleg comic relief geth with her that she built, that's her gimmick.

>>363361724
I'm sorry, it doesn't look better than any other Mass Effect.
The art direction is awful, it just looks like shit. This is extremely saddening and I have no idea what the hell happened to destroy Bioware to that degree.

>>363360419
Batarians were pretty much extinct at the end of 3.

>>363337330
16 million

>>363362213
Yeah but this Andromeda thing kicks off During or Right After ME2 and way before ME3

I think its after ME2 Arrival

>>363342317
Please make sure to buy the deluxe collectors edition(TM)* too, I'm sure such a big fan of the franchise will love it!
*GAME NOT INCLUDED

>>363362194
From a technical point of view Andromeda is better (switch to Frostbite from UE3 and resulting improvements in shaders and shit), but I agree with you that the art style has turned into generic future that is totally divorced from the Syd Mead style the other games had.

>>363341821
Halo was a good trilogy that attracted dude-bro culture. It is a great and well made series in Bungies hands, hiccups here and there, but it's just the context of the time when they came out that hurts them.

It's like the popular kid on the block and everyone was pissing themselves trying to appease and one up him

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>>363337917
It was always a Prothean, but apparently the guy who designed the collectors didn't notice the massive fucking statues on Ilos and made them look like bugs. So when they made the Prothean for ME3, they had to design it off of the Collectors otherwise they would have to think of some reason to explain why the Protheans didn't look like the Collectors who are protheans. i.e. laziness

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>>363336670

>>363361958
Maybe but for a game about exploration and securing the future of humanity as the next bigger step through Darkspace, brining the old with us just feels awful.

But maybe I'm just blowing it out of proportion.

>>363339926
>>363355791
>>363351589
>>363340430
I'd still hit it

>>363363180
With a hammer I hipe.

>>363362993
Well that's just our mission

Salarians, Asari and Turians probably have the same mission we just can't play as them (which fucking blows)

>>363363268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_O0jNYOGTQ

>>363362507
>I think its after ME2 Arrival

But the Battarians end up pretty much going extinct during the events of Arrival so...

>>363363467
True.
I just hope finding a home for humanity is the mission of the overall game rather than just the initial plothook that brings us into fighting these hardlight assholes.

>>363363657
Huh.
Well alright.

>>363362569
I didn't know about Syd Mead. His work is fantastic.
Thank you.

>>363352705
Star Wars is not sci-fi. It's science-fantasy. And it's exactly because of the jedi.

>>363364960
you mean bitches with glowsticks

>>363364960
I thought it was because it has wizards, swordfighting and rescuing a princess from a dungeon?

>>363364960
Episode 1 made it sci-fi

>>363365740
Ep. 1-3 made it a political debate series set in space.

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>entire new galaxy
>lucky if we get 1 new recolored human, woops, I mean "Alien"
>don't even get a Solarian squad mate, he's our ships captain

I swear to god, if we don't get to fuck that female turian, I won't even pirate this shit.

>>363352009
Ok, enjoy getting fucked in the ass by EA.

>>363360523
I would only be annoyed if the new races were shit

>>363365946
You will be able to but she'll be a lesbian. Fucking Bioware.

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Will be a clone of Destiny with ME elements and Anita Sarkeesian woman empowerment slapped in your face at every turn.


This is going to be your default female character, no doubt.

>>363367118
You know, there is already porn.

>>363367118
That you can change the facial features of.

I don't think anyone actually used Default Femshep in ME3

>>363336506
>>363336564
>>363336605

skinner box?

>>363366998
Oh god, I can see this actually happening.

Like fucking hell I'll play their greased face potato monster of a female MC, just to fuck an alien.

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>>363367216
Really... interesting.

>>363359857
>This isn't a very good plan
Doesn't matter. They'll get loads of money, anyway. Publishers and devs have gotten spoiled and entitled, due to fanboys willing throw money at anything resembling their interest.

>>363338312

That's rape of women, man. Don't watch that.