More Sanic 25th Anniversary Details

>>323519062
I almost believed you until sonic boom

>>323519062
>How will they fuck it up this time

More Sticks, everywhere, all the time, always.

Oh boy, I'm just hoping the latter 2 platformers won't be a mess. I think they'll do the 3D platformer alright but the 2D will be make or break depending on how much they choose to butcher Clas- I mean, Pixel Sonic.

>Classic Sonic is being referred to as "Pixel Sonic"
that fucking reading comprehension, it literally means they're using the old sprites on merch

>>323519062
oh my fucking hell. no fucking way. theyre seriously making boom sonic official? i thought that was just a spin off by sega america and nothing to do with sonic teams plans?

jesus fucking christ this is going to be a disaster

>>323519245
the show is doing well

>>323519062
>celebration through the whole year
calling it now, they'll just shit out merchandise
>up to four games
they never mention that. it's just boom, olympics, and anniversary game. sonic stadium just likes stirring up shit
>comic book sonic
>pixel sonic
this is just for dumbasses who don't know what a genesis and archie are

i can't say i have much faith, since they said the 15th anniversary would be the best thing ever. they are merely trying to cash in on the hype of casuals as usual that don't know sonic's shit history. all we can do now is wait and see everything crash down.

>>323519245
>>323519483
It's a poster used to sell the brand to merchandisers you idiots, not a game

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>>323519062
>The Classic Sonic licensing programme is a celebration of the brand's heritage as the most popular and most iconic video game character of all time

Wait what? Are they saying he's more popular than Mario?

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Sonic nendo rerelease W H E N?
I bought a bootleg one because scalpers.

>>323519726
>classic sonic proportions
>modern sonic features

???

>>323519649
Why the fuck is boom sonic there then?

>>323519820
Kind of like the SA1 model.

>>323519062
>Boom Sonic

Why must they keep acknowledging his existence?

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>>323520201
The unleashed model is still the best and cutest 3D sonic model.

>>323520374

Everything but the games did pretty well.

>new 2D Sonic
can't wait for them to fuck it up.

>>323520524
The show is pretty good for a chuckle, but it has this weird void-like atmosphere where everything seems stilted.

>>323520661
>tfw 2D sonic is shit

Cant wait to see the new 3D game though, lost world used way to much 2D. Generations was better but by default at least 50% of the game was 2D and then add the modern sonic 2D sections, so maybe 70% 2D total. Colors was literally almost all 2D, 3D was just used for cinematics and stunts and reminding you sonic goes fast. I feel like Unleashed was the last fully 3D game so Ive been waiting forever

>>323520035
Because other than the games it has been a success?

>>323520374
>>323519483

Sonic Boom was made for the show intentionally more priority

The game just exists as a tie in prequel to the show

>>323520918
Maybe because low budget?

Personally I want them to get better music in the show.

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>>323519062
they should just call classic sonic "retro" sonic

also holy fuck i miss old eggman

>>323519062
Well, SEGA already fucked up by acknowledging sonic boom as something worth celebrating

>>323521101
>Maybe because low budget?
It's definitely a budget thing. They've got some french animation team pumping out episodes in rapid fashion.

>Personally I want them to get better music in the show.
This along with more audio work overall would probably help alleviate some of the stiffness in scenes. It's amazing what good sound composition can do to make things seem more alive.

>>323519062
>sonic boom is getting recognition
Because of the show, not the games

>>323521151
Eggman is 6 feet tall? His roundness is really throwing me off

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I used to love Sonic so much. I used to play house with plushies of sonic characters with my siblings. I followed anything sonic related back then. I even enjoyed 06. Around the time of generations, I lost my love for him. I just want another good game. Fuck Sonic 4. Fuck Lost World. Fuck Boom.

>>323519062
I should feel excited for this, but I feel nothing. I don't think I can really say I'm a Sonic fan anymore.

>>323519062
Whatever it is, they should stay away from Nintendo

Super secret leak

It has Sonic
He collects rings
He goes Fast
Eggman has been confirmed
Repeat Eggman is confirmed

>>323522391
Don't forget plenty of new friends!

>>323520035
Because it's part of the Sonic franchise? Are you being serious?

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>4 Sonic games in a year

sega pls, what did i ever do to you

>>323522391

bullshit

I honestly like Boom's design, and glad that they're still using it./spoiler]

>>323522679
why

Havent played Sonic Generations. Should I give it a try?

>>323520961
Unleashed had plenty of 2D sections as well, anon.

>>323522913
Yes
It's pretty good

>>323522490
Anon, that hasn't been a thing in the sonic series for a decade.

>>323523030
Even if its on 360?

>>323520493

PC port of Unleashed when?

>>323522913
Stop listening to the "Sonic Generations is good" meme that's spouted on this board.

It's not good, even the demo sucks.

No modern Sonic is good.

>>323523153
ebin

>>323523119
You'll miss out on the Unleashed mod

>>323522913
Yes. Best 3D Sonic.

>>323519483
The Sonic Boom show is by far the best Sonic tv show.

>>323523281
I'd say Unleashed was much better if it weren't for all the filler.
And the majority of Generations is 2D anyway.

>>323523153
go to bed, arin

>>323523528
Unleashed Day stages are certainty much better and it is faster, but the controls are better in Generations. I actually didn't like colors much.

>>323523337
Nah cartoon was better

>>323523135
Technically, there's the Generations mod that includes all of the daytime Unleashed levels aside from Eggmanland and the night stages. I wouldn't mind an actual port of Unleashed if they changed the night stages to where the stage music always plays even during combat instead of being overridden by the battle/fight music.

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>yfw they'll all be mediocre

>>323522953
Yeah but it was still fairly balanced, especially compared to what came after. The werehog being a full 3D platformer really helped it feel like 3D was the predominant genre in Unleashed as well

I just want that feeling again of a primary 3D platformer. I miss when you stuck to the handheld games if you wanted 2D and console sonics if you wanted 3D

>>323522913
pirate it if you're getting it for pc, it's fun but its short as fuck and you'll never play it again afterwards.

Whatever happened to the Sonic movie that they were planning to do?

>>323524174
>you'll never play it again afterwards
What?
Do you not enjoy trying to beat your best time?
Do you not enjoy finding different paths and shit?
Most good Sonic games are designed almost primarily with replay value in mind, and Generations is no exception.
Are you really playing it like some linear story-focused AAA game?

>>323523890
Thats nothing a quick mod cant fix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoLN6uVtb_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftyDZouqJ1Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQxaI50HLzE

Man Unleashed is really a work of art. The way it so lovingly celebrates major cultures in a style that inspires childish wonder is something else. The night stages are very under rated because of the constant battles and battle music. A mod to make the werehog 1 hit kill everything and disable the battle music would show that there was a great puzzle platformer buried in there all these years that everyone unfairly shat on

>>323524252
No news since the announced it. Writer said they are aiming for a PG-13 rating, though.

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>>323519062
>All this shit

Laffo. What a joke.

Sonic will always be dead.

>>323524727
>them balls

>>323519062
OMFG Why the fuck would they put Uncharted Sonic in there?

>>323524990
Because his show is a runaway success?

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>>323519062
>possibly up to four new sonic games this year
K
>celebration will be throughout the ENTIRE year, not just in summer or fall
If they put out 3-4 games, of course it'll be all year.
>sonic boom is getting recognition
Not surprising
>Archie Sonic is now called "comic book Sonic"
>Classic Sonic is being referred to as "Pixel Sonic"
Those are just how they are described. Pixel just refers to Classic Sonic as a sprite, and comic book Sonic is self-explanatory. Hell, they say Classic Sonic in the pic in the article.
>they are claiming 2016 to be Sonic's best year yet
Yeah, and they claimed pic related too.

>>323519062
> sonic boom a smashing success
> no TV station has ever played it

I don't think people know the meaning of success. Sonic cartoons were on more

I'm sick of all the stupid fucking teases.

Just do it so we can get on with our lives.

What the fuck is up with Boom? So you've got this video game franchise that's lost 95% of its audience due to poor quality games. Then you've got this same franchise made into a modestly successful children's television show. And to tie in with the show, you've got games that Sega knows are terrible beyond redemption in either quality or infamy and they just keep releasing them. It's like a snake eating itself to survive. Where the fuck is this going in the longrun and who is making this stuff up?

>>323519062
I hope we get some Knuckles stages in the supposed new 3d game.

>>323525860
If they would be like the stages from Adventure 1/2, then no thanks.

>>323520493
Can't say I agree. Modern Sonic looks like a goofy idiot.

>>323523980
Im assuming the 2d sonic is just going to be sonic 4 episode 3

>>323526036
Knuckles would be perfect for a character action segment, if only Sonic Team could do it without fucking it up.

>>323526154
Unless they change the style, that wouldn't happen. If we were to get a 2D game, it'd be something Classic Sonic related.

It annoys me that Sonic Boom is there as if it's something significant at all.

>>323526192
Perhaps I'm just being stupid but maybe Unleashed would have been better if the nigger animal stages were just knuckles instead and not at night.

>>323525860
There is no way people enjoyed knuckles levels. They slowed the game down to a halt and how many times can knuckles loose the emeralds because he was asleep

>>323519062

will we FINALLY get a sonic game that doesn't introduce a new character?

>>323526192
>>323525860
>sonic unleashed 2
>as ambitious and complete as the first one
>knuckles replaces werehog, same general style and design of werehog stages remain; combat, platforming, light puzzles and exploration
>sonic is hunting for the chaos emeralds in the day
>dark gaia fucked with the master emerald, so knuckles has to look for the pieces at night
>tails replaces chip
>amy has her same role as cute doting sonic fan

y/n

>>323526409
Do you count the little alien things in Sonic Colors as characters? I don't.

>>323526409

There hasn't been a new, mainstay character since 06, Sticks aside.

>>323526549
n

I'm still mad Sonic Boom didn't at least have good music.

It's really sad to think that one day Sega will die and be bought out by EA.

>>323525254
I remember hoping the reveal would just pan out to show the gang making shadow puppets and making fun of drastic redesigns.

I read the post in OP and I saw literally nothing worth note aside from the "throughout the year" bit.

I'll care about sonic's anniversary when I actually see something new from sega.

>>323526669
Blame Richard Jacques

>>323526579
I had to look up who Sticks was.
I watched someone play through Sonic Boom, and I don't remember her.

>>323520493
Yuck

>>323526845

She's not in the Wii U version.

>>323526968
>>323526845
Sticks was non-noteworthy NPC in Boom for Wii U. Kinda like she was never meant to be in the role she is in the show and other game.

I didn't even know there was more than one Sonic Boom game till this thread.
I remember the first one came out and was a huge disappointment. They kept making them anyways? Doesn't seem like anyone paid attention after the first ether.

>>323526409
Will people FINALLY realize this hasn't been an issue for the past decade, or recognize that the issue was the different gameplay types and not the characters themselves as no one seemed to mind every game adding at least one character until Adventure came along?

>>323527165

knuckles was the last worthwhile new character

>>323526401
I know, but there must be some way they can implement him effectively without resorting to a snoozefest treasure hunt.

>>323524481
>Man Unleashed is really a work of art
I fucking cringed

>>323527134
There was the Wii U and 3DS game that came out around the same time.

A new 3DS game coming up called Fire & Ice.

And a mobile endless runner that is a sequel to Sonic's other endless runner.

>>323527243
E-102 Gamma was fun and interesting.
Too bad they just fucked up his gameplay format immediately with SA 2.

>>323526549
n
Unleashed sucked

>>323527165
That was the fanbase. The very shitty fanbase.

SA2 and Sonic Battle were fine, but Rush and '06 CROSSED THE FUCKING LINE.

But nooooo, /v/ had to drool all over Blaze, and the turbo autists latched directly onto Silver's ass and never let go, and now it's just fucked.

>>323526779
Richard Jacques worked on the 3DS Version not the Wii U one

>>323527540
>SA2
>fine
SA2 was ass.

>>323527540

shoulda just put Sally in the games. make her a techno nerd ala Coco Bandicoot or the like

>>323527540
Rush was an okay game. I'd hardly put it in league with 06. Blaze didn't even play differently from Sonic.

>>323527584
Jacques worked on both versions.

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>>323527298
Come on now, the game is beautiful.

>>323527674
No he didn't
Wikipedia fucked that up

>>323527591
Shadow and Rouge were fine additions. Although I wish Shadow hadn't gone full edgelord, was more of a "perfect warrior" type.

We're not talking gameplay.

>>323527591
a fine ass game

>>323527716
Too bad that and the music is all it's got going for it
The game is terrible

Can Boom just fuck off, please?

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>>323527298
You dont think so? Suit yourself

Nothing has yet to surpass unleashed in graphics or art style and design. And that was in 2008

>>323527814
>We're not talking gameplay.
see
>>323527165
>recognize that the issue was the different gameplay types and not the characters themselves

>>323527619
Ehhhh, if the comics hadn't become such drama, I'd agree.

>>323527653
Rush is playable.
'06 is just UGH

>>323527936
The gameplay types were fine.

The characters were what was shit.

Fucking alternate dimensions. Same shit wrecked Kirby.

>>323526779
>>323527584
>>323527674
>>323527805
Richard Jaques is shit regardless of whether he worked on Boom or not.

>>323527887
kek

>>323527619
>shoulda just put Sally in the games.
How about no?

>>323527895
Sorry anon. The TV show did good, so that means we have to deal with it until it gets canned.

>>323527895
I wasn't bothered by Boom initially, even though I knew it was a sub par game. But the way they are continuing to force it is making me hate it a bit more every time I see it.

And no, I don't care about the cartoon any more than I care about the comics. Sonic is a video game series to me. The characters and setting works well for colorful platformers, but as their own entity they fail to interest me at all.

>>323527887
Nah.
Any content that isn't a daytime level is generally pretty poor, but those daytime levels are fucking great, and Colors and Generations mostly just took steps back from it aside from removing the QTEs.

>>323527903
Colors had better art design.

>>323528072
>Fucking alternate dimensions. Same shit wrecked Kirby.
What are you talking about now?
Kirby has never been wrecked. There's like maybe two bad games in the whole series.

>>323528286
Not a chance in hell buddy

>>323528238
The 2D sections in the daytime stages were terrible, and played worse than Sonic 4. 3D parts were nice though. Too bad they only made up like 40% of the game.

>>323528112
>Richard Jacques
>The man who composed the legendary Sonic R soundtrack
>The man who composed the legendary Sonic 3D Blast Saturn Soundtrack
>The man who composed shit like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMTi5b1ca4U
>Shit

Fuck off

>>323528072
Uh what Kirby game had alternate dimensions besides Amazing Mirror?

>>323528112
What's wrong with him? The Saturn OST for 3D Blast has some damn good tracks here and there and he contributed to Jet Set Radio Future.

>>323527887
I never got why people thought Unleashed was terrible. The speed stages looked and felt great and the night stages where wild and fun. My score was better on the night stages than the day stages.

>>323528429
>played worse than Sonic 4
Stopped reading here.

>>323528440
>>The man who composed the legendary Sonic 3D Blast Saturn Soundtrack
Sonic R had catchy music, but Saturn 3D Blast just sounded like stock music they borrowed from some unrelated library.

>>323528306
I'm talking about
>Shadow Kirby
>Dark Metaknight
>Dark Mind
>Dark King Dedede
>Star Rod came from Halcandra instead of being something novel
>Magolor
>Dark Crafter

It still makes me fume.

>>323528238
The daytime levels are terrible
And Generations kind of improved on them by making the level design more multi-tiered but it was still shit because Sonic still controls like a car

>>323528475
>>323528440
3D blast genesis had better music than the saturn version

>>323528490
Liking the Werehog stages is a minority opinion anon.

>>323528440
Sonic R soundtrack was legendary for being cheesy as fuck and not fitting the game. It was still enjoyable though. Saturn 3D Blast soundtrack was mediocre as fuck and pales in comparison to the Genesis one.

>>323525254
The shadows look a lot better than the actual designs

>>323519062

Can't be worse than 06 right?

>>323528614
That's true, but both soundtracks are great.

>>323528453
Amazing Mirror, RtDL, TD. Was the wizard from MA from another dimension? What about Dark Nebula?

>>323528614
Overall yes, but don't tell me Rusty Ruin, Gene Gadget, and Panic Puppet on the Saturn aren't great too.

Also don't forget how superior the Special Stage was to the Genesis one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlAaAlnSBVA

>>323528490
>I never got why people thought Unleashed was terrible.
Because it's not a good game
And the "speed stages" consisted of running on a linear hallways most of the time
Werehog was a shovelware beat 'em up at best

I don't think it's that bad...it's an average game that I wouldn't mind playing again but it's not a good game

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>>323528589

you can't be serious

>>323528698
Its really not. The only good songs in 3d blast saturn are the special stage and panic puppet act 1. Everything else sounds bizarre and doesnt fit at all. Genesis has a more arcadey classic feel to it which perfectly fits the game

>>323528535
Stay in denial I guess. The boost games all have terrible 2D stuff, but Unleashed was the worst offender.

>>323528541
>Saturn 3D Blast just sounded like stock music they borrowed from some unrelated library.
I don't want to even talk to you anymore anon

>>323528812
>The boost games all have terrible 2D stuff
I agree, but they are still better than Sonic 4.

Also Colors' 2D was worse because it was the entire game.

>>323528614
no

>>323528678
>Sonic R soundtrack was legendary for being cheesy as fuck and not fitting the game
How exactly did it not fit the game?
The songs described the stages(kind of) and were fitting

There's also the Instrumental Soundtrack(where you can turn off the vocals) which imo is better than the one with the vocals but that's just me

>>323528932
Level designs were better than Sonic 4 but I'm talking about the controls and physics. As shitty as Sonic 4's were he at least handled okay unlike the boost games.

And yes I forgot about how much 2D shit was in Colors. I retract my statement about Unleashed being the worst offender.

>>323522391
going fast would be an improvement over boom

>>323522913
generations is the best game to come out since SA2. the 2d and 3d sections both control great and if the throwbacks don't give you an erection you aren;t a real sonic fan

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>>323528589
I'm confused.
A lot of those were awesome boss fights.
Are you seriously flipping out about Kirby canon? Something that hardly exists?
Not that it matters if it exists or not, since Kirby belongs to such a fluid, dynamic universe.

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>>323526353
Unleashed on PC can help fix that.

>>323529075
>I'm talking about the controls and physics
I know. That's why you're wrong.
At least in the sometimes 3D boost games you kept moving forward in the air when you let go of left or right and couldn't casually stroll up walls and shit.

Sonic Boom Shattered Crystal had such great music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cc7laSFYyc

>>323529219
>boom knuckles
>boom anything

NO

Can you guys stop talking about the past and start talking about the future?!

>>323529172
>generations is the best game to come out since SA2
I'm assuming you're ignoring handhelds.

>>323528798
It's crap! This is Kirby, for FUCK'S SAKE! None of this shit fits!

Galacta Knight is okay, except his backstory could have been better,

And the dragons, which were Halcandra's Kirby, should have made it to Dream Land or been more of a single, marketable unit, or something.

>>323529341
As shitty as that was I still prefer 4's controls to Sonic slipping and sliding all over the place in the boost 2D stuff.

>>323528418
Colors definitely fucking had way better art design than Sonic Unleashed's boring ass Real World shit

Too bad that it was stuck on the Wii so it doesn't look as good as it could have looked

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>>323529441
There is no Future for you SONIC

>>323529503
You just seem upset that the fictional world of Kirby didn't elaborate in a way that matched your personal vision.
But why does it matter anyways? Kirby is not a story heavy series. Everything that happens in the games happens to service the game mechanics or make something cute/creepy appear on screen.

>>323529631
I agree Colors had the better art design but I wouldn't day Unleashed's was boring.

>>323529441
The future looks bleak

Why has the music for sonic always been great where as the games have not been on par?

>>323529631
Not to say that colors wasnt creative but I thought it was amazing how well modeled yet stylized the real world was in unleashed. Being in a small chinese or south east asia village, or a town in europe, or the big city new york in the united states was an incredible feeling since it looked so real but kept it surreal by having those pixar like humans.

If it looked bland like 06 i would agree but Unleashed has a really great engine and style powering it all which makes it win in the end

>>323529808
Sega has always been god tier at music, it's not just Sonic.

>>323529808
Outside of Generations, Sonic music has been forgettable since 06.

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>>323529427
https://youtu.be/2SETACyNGjU

But it works perfectly man without having to redo every animation.

Plus you'd love everything knuckles would have to say.

>>323529794
It was boring for Sonic
You get what I'm sayin'...it looks good but it's too realistic/not fantastical enough for Sonic

>>323529808
Sonic Chronicles and Sonic Boom are here to ruin your wonderful theory.

Best Sonic song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vv6BSDJ8aw

>>323529808
Because Sega always has fantastic composers.

>>323529973
Sounds like PSO2 music. Same composer maybe?

>>323529843
The art style was done well...it just doesn't fit Sonic

And I didn't like how the NPC's looked...they looked like Mii's
Give me anime-ish NPC's from SA1 anyday(not that I want NPC's in a Sonic game in the first place)

>>323528589
>>323529503
Kirby villains have almost always been some personification of darkness. Even Meta Knight is to some extent supposed to be a darker Kirby.

Like, what about Nightmare or Dark Matter? That's about as classic as you can get with Kirby villains.

>>323520661
Sonic 4 episode 2 was actually good, but everyone overlooked it because episode 1 was so shit.

>>323530076
You think Unleashed's NPC's looked like Mii's. You must be high. Every one of them are pretty distinguishable too.

I don't want 06 Shit tier npc's again.

>>323530076
I would want the humans to look like Eggman and the Billy Hatcher characters, actually in the style of the main cast.

>>323529787
So it didn't turn out to look like Kirby's Adventure or Dream Land 1. That's fine, I guess. Although KA was pretty fucking sweet.

But all these edgy characters? Why? Can't it just be Dedede and Metaknight?

Can we have something different than "Evil Sorcerer For The Fifth Time In A Row" and "Not-Dark Matter"?

>>323529914
Secret Rings, Colors, Unleashed, and Rush Adventure all have pretty good music.

>>323530064
Yes actually, 2/3 of the PSO2 composers worked on zero gravity

>>323530064
Same Sound Team works on both series
With Hideaki Kobayashi and Kenichi Tokoi working on both

Fumie Kumatani also worked on the original PSO

>>323530236
The NPC's should look more Bioshockish.

>>323530236
>I don't want 06 Shit tier npc's again
How about no NPC's...EVER

>>323530197
It was definitely better than episode 1. I would stop short of calling it good but it was probably the best they could do with that busted ass physics engine.

>>323530158
Yes, but Nightmare bit the dust, and Metaknight's no longer a recurring villain. Or even a villain.
Dark Matter was a good antithesis to Kirby.

Now, it's like, OH WELL, NO SENSE PLAYING THE NEXT KIRBY, BECAUSE THE FINAL BOSS IS JUST GONNA BE THE EVIL SORCERER FROM THE INTRO. AGAIN.

>>323530076
Nah man youre nuts. They didnt look like miis. They looked like typical cartoony characters youd see in maybe a pixar movie or whatever.

It was great how the npcs actually had side stories, missions, and interesting dialogue etc in Unleashed. It was the first time the hub and npcs felt useful in a sonic game.

>>323530374
Never speak again.

>>323530440
Why?

>>323530537
Whatever...
They looked ugly as shit...like they came from a Dreamworks Movie and I hate that style

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>>323530275
Dark Matter and it's various incarnations are often considered a fan favorite when it comes to Kirby antagonists, are still some of the more visually disturbing things in the series.

And Nightmare existed as early as Adventure. The only game with just Dedede is Dreamland. That's a very small portion of the series history.

>>323530440
No human NPCs at least. I wouldn't mind finding Knuckles or somebody hanging out in a level (or hub or whatever) but no humans.

>>323530696
Because they literally serve no purpose in a Sonic Game

>>323530627
I'm sorry you are against decent ideas.

>>323530783
Yeah that wouldn't be bad I guess
Any maybe Sonic's little animal friends(the ones he frees from the Badniks) could be NPC's too

>>323530802
Do you want hub worlds with no life in them?

I didn't mind the Unleashed NPCs at all. It was Chip that annoyed me.

>>323530783
Fuck that. We don't need Sonic living in Furryvile. If the Loony Tunes can live with Humans with no problems, so can Sonic.

>>323530480

I don't remember Sectonia being in the intro of Triple Deluxe.

>>323530783
If the humans are mixed up with the anthropomorphic animals, and are also in the Sonic style, what's the problem?

>>323530918
>Do you want hub worlds
No

>>323530979
There shouldn't be a bunch of NPCs to begin with. If any show up they should be rare, and they should be one of the established characters. The only human should be Robotnik/Eggman.

>>323530945
I blame the voice

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are we ever going to get a good super sonic ending battle again?

the last good one that felt like it properly ended the game was unleashed, where you fucked up eggman followed by destroying a dark god UNDER THE CRUST AND AT THE CORE OF THE EARTH

fucking hell the budget for unleashed mustve been insane

>>323530480
Who gives a shit, they are almost always interesting fights.

>>323531149
fuck super sonic ending battles, I just want super sonic to be a bonus for playing through regular stages

>>323530480
Which Kirby game recently has even done that? Besides /maybe/ Rainbow Curse?

And if anything, Kirby villains have gotten less dark as time has gone on. Most of the recent examples you gave are colorful characters that don't even come off as dark or edgy (but more like final bosses which tend to look sort of villainous sometimes)

>>323531102
You people just want Sonic games to have nothing. It's no wonder that the games are shit if you are what Sega listens to.

>>323531102
Hub worlds =/= Sonic '06 hub worlds

>>323530197
Episode II is the shinning example of a game being so painfully average in every way that I can't even muster up a fuck to give about it and barely remember anything of note beyond that one song no doubt created by someone stomping on ducks.
It is THE 5/10 game for me.

Episode I was at least so fucking terrible on all fronts that I felt an identifiable emotion playing it.
At least I can say that for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAM4px0sTu4

>>323531071
See >>323531128
I'm against having a bunch of NPCs. Also I agree with >>323531102
No hub worlds. All of that shit is a waste of resources and the hub worlds have never done anything but bog Sonic games down.

>>323530918
I dunno about that guy, but I don't want hub worlds. Worst party about Sonic Adventure and Sonic Unleashed, games that had a lot of strong points otherwise.
And if you gotta have them, have something small and simple like the early Crash Bandicoot Games or Wario World.

>>323531149
>are we ever going to get a good super sonic ending battle again?the last good one that felt like it properly ended the game was unleashed, where you fucked up eggman followed by destroying a dark god UNDER THE CRUST AND AT THE CORE OF THE EARTH


Are you fucking kidding me?
That shit was done to death for years and years

>>323531149
Not as long as those Happy Tree Friends writers are on the games

>>323531128
>he only human should be Robotnik/Eggman.
Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFW2CHGTlH8

I'd rather know what big the cat is up to.

>>323519062
I hope bestiality comes back this year in some form or another!! Sonic 06 part 2 maybe?

>>323531206
>>323531297
Do you want another Egg-Nega Wisp copypasta battle like they've been doing with every game so far?

>>323531206
Super Sonic just broke physics, replaced great stage music with repetitive and annoying invincibility music, made precision platforming retarded, and made already too easy games even easier.

It's shit as a bonus.

It also doesn't make much sense as a reward for getting emeralds or whatever in a modern game with saves and shit.

>>323531337
Eggman should have a romantic relationship with Cream's mother.

>>323531239
You're a fucking faggot
The games are shit because Sonic Team is shit
>>323531252
SA1's Station Square was fine but that's about it(hated Mystic Ruins...it was creepy and the forest part was confusing as fuck)

Either way it's unnecessary padding that serves no real purpose

>>323531293
The hub in sonic adventure is useless but the ones in unleashed are very small and have useful npcs and side missions and stuff. They range from tiny (empire city, adabat, holoska, chun nan) to small (spagonia, shamar, apotos) and really helped you get into the world traveling theme of the game.

>>323531319
When will those fuckers die as horrible a death as a happy tree friend?
The series needs this.

>>323531206
I'd be okay with an ending battle if it was how Sonic 3 & Knuckles did it: Super (or in this case Hyper) Sonic is still playable normally but if you have him unlocked you get an additional "true" final boss.

>>323531239
I don't want the games to have superfluous bullshit. They need to focus on nailing the core gameplay and making sure the levels are well designed. We don't need some shitty hub world full of NPCs who contribute nothing to the game. It's not a fucking RPG.

>>323531263
>>323531293
The hub worlds in SA1 are relatively small, filled with easily-recognizable landmarks so you never get lost, add to the game by having atmosphere and making the levels feel connected with an actual world, and are great for doing random spindashes off ramps and hills to get some extremely satisfying air.

>>323531239
>WOW, YOU DON'T WANT FISHING OR HOT AND COLD TREASURE HUNTING? YOU BASICALLY WANT NOTHING IN SONIC AT ALL!

>>323531406
Whatever they do it doesn't concern me
If the game isn't good in the first place(which it never is and will never be) I don't give a shit

If you ask me what I want for a Final Boss I would want a Classic Giant Death Egg Robot fight with no Wisp/Godzilla bullshit

>>323522913
>>323523030
>>323523153
>>323523281
>>323524174
>>323529172
it's good but it's not as good as everybody says, especially iif you don't like one of the two play styles, and double especially if it's 2d, because the 3d levels have 2d sections for some fucking reason.

>>323531728
I'm not that guy, but what the flying fuck do hub worlds have to do with shitty and gimped gameplay-styles?

>>323531856
I'm criticizing the argument.
The "if you don't want stuff that doesn't have any place in Sonic, you must want absolutely nothing" bullshit.

>>323531526
yeah I loved the world travelling theme of Sonic Unleashed. I'd be up for another game like that, imitating real world places. Strangely Sonic's never been to a Japanese type city yet, in any game I can think of.

>>323520493
wtf is that on his chest?

>>323531962
Define "doesn't have a place in Sonic".

>>323532072
messed up shadow.

>>323531962
But hub worlds in Sonic games are fine if they're done correctly like in SA1 and Unleashed.

>>323532007
Speed Highway has some Japanese-looking neon signs.

>>323532007
Yeah i thought it was weird how china and south east asia got represented before japan...but i guess there was a small bias since its 2 asian countries. An Unleashed 2 with new continents or locations in established places (like a different major city in the united states, or germany or spain instead of italy for europe, have japan now etc) would be fucking perfect

>>323523153
Nah. That game was great

>>323532115
Things that make the game worse. Like, say, every hub world in the series. Yes even the shitty Unleashed ones.

>>323532265
At the very least Unleashed had semblance of layout design for them compared to Adventure and 06. Some people just don't like it.

>>323524481
are you 18 years old and grew up playing it or something? unleashed is trash, the good parts of it were ported into generations entirely

>>323532212
I'm of the opinion that the hubs in Adventure were mediocre, the hubs in Unleashed were pretty good, and the hubs in both added absolutely nothing to the experience of playing a Sonic game.

By the same token, I wouldn't have enjoyed Big even if he had the most masterful, finely crafted fishing mechanics of any fishing game ever made.
The point isn't the quality of the content, but whether it belongs at all.

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>>323532265
But there is seriously nothing inoffensive about the unleashed hubs. Anyone who played it remember how tiny but dense and comfy they were. This is empire citys hub, its literally this big. A fountain in the middle in a park area with some food stands and tables on the side. Small things like this helped the atmosphere intensely and it wasnt just random open world garbage spewed out like in adventure and 06.

>>323526859
describes adults playing video games

>>323532367
I'll take Station Square over any of the Hub Worlds from Unleashed
That hub world was very comfy at least and it was more sonic-y in the sense that Sonic was vacationing there

Fuck Mystic Ruins though...that place gives me the creeps

>>323530076
>>323530716
Same person every thread with the shit taste.

Sonic Colors is the worst Sonic game of the games I played, I couldn't even finish it as I was too bored, but I did finish Sonic 06. Colors is junk.

>>323532382
>>323524481
I'm 22 and I don't think Unleashed isn't terrible but its the best complete Sonic game we've gotten in years.

Sure its not Sonic 2 or 3 bullshit. But yeah its going to be 8 years since Unleashed and 10 since Sonic 06 ( I feel sorry for the people who liked that game) . So some people are gonna like that game.

>>323532595
Station Square the area with the worst cameras ever. Yeah alright.

>>323532536
I agree with this here. small and have you do something simple to reach the level and no bullshit fetching.

>>323532673
As a matter of fact, it's the ONLY sonic game I ever returned to the store.

>>323532673
BUT DOESN'T THE COLORS FEEL SO RIGHT?

>>323532669
piss off

>>323532787
No! They don't.

>>323532673
I can't disagree with this.
Shame too, because the presentation was fucking masterful.

>>323532732
>Station Square the area with the worst cameras ever. Yeah alright.

>Good camera
>In a Sonic Game
>Ever

Station Square had awesome music and it had some funny ass NPC's at least
And you could talk to fucking Beach Babes in the pool...that's maximum comfy

"The train to Mystic Ruins will be departing soon"

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>>323532732
This guy gets it, no bullshit like fetching stone keys to unlock a level. Just small but deliberately crafted hubs that only enhanced the experience and gave you a taste of the different locations of the world. And if you wanted? you can just jump > homing attack spam to get the level teleporter in 3 seconds.

>>323529808
That's what makes Sonic 4 all the more depressing. Sonic games always have music going for them if nothing else, yet for Sonic 4 of all fucking games, they did a horribly shit job. I swear to christ it was all on purpose for some reason.

>>323532732
>>323532942
The camera wasn't even that bad.

>>323533083
>This guy gets it, no bullshit like fetching stone keys to unlock a level
>Instead you have to collect a lot of Sun/Moon Medals

Oh the fucking irony
Unleashedfags are retarded

>>323519062
>16-Bit Sonic the Hedgehog 5 & Knuckles
>Sonic Adventure 3

It's MegaMan 9 all over again.

>>323531406
>with every game so far?
Lost World is the only one that copied it so far.

>>323532241
>Sonic Unleashed 2
>Mexico/Brazil country
>German country with cozy-ass Gothic German architecture
>Japanese country, set in a Tokyo-inspired city
>Hawaiian country
>American country set in the west
>Egyptian country set around the pyramids where they're doing some kind of archaeology expedition
>Spagonia is still there

>>323533192
Medals were super easy to get and encouraged replaying and exploration. Were talking about purely about the inclusion of hubs in a sonic game. Theres nothing wrong with medals unless you want to rush to the end and drop the game

>>323532536
>>323532732
>>323533083
The Unleashed hubs were so tiny that they were pointless. The only purpose they served was to waste resources that would have been better spent making the 2D and werehog portions less shit.

>>323533271
Sonic Generations did it. The only difference is you can fly.

>>323532942
You have poor taste in music then that grates my ears hearing it for too long.

Unleashed is the only Sonic game in recent that has a controllable camera. Colors and Generations and Lost World ditched it. And the boost trilogy games didn't have that bad of a camera since it was scripted out for where cameras should be showing you stuff anyways.

Literally they made those games to not have as much camera fuckups . Only time it would fuck up if you went into a corner of a level.

>>323533192
>Wow backtracking in a sonic level sure is hard.

Most of them are right there unless you wanted to get that B rank so badly cause you know you weren't at max stats when starting the game.

>>323533262
You'd fucking wish nigger
What you'll get is Sonic 5:It's the same shit Sonic 4 was but now with a few rehashed from Knuckles Chaotix and Sonic 3D Blast

>>323533083
are you baiting? unleashed had day/moon medals that were garbage, obviously made me to prolong the game

unleashed is fucking terrible

>>323533373
>nigger
Let's not use that word here.

>>323533361
You have poor taste in games, so I guess you guys are even.

>>323533338
I fail to see how scrapping them would suddenly vastly improve everything else. I would say that without hubs, Unleashed wouldnt be the same since its the type of game that really benefits from more visual cues

>>323528749
Implying any of those games had a problem because of alternate dimensions,

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>>323532942
>talk to some nerd in the pool area
>he warns you the camera may be shit
>don't worry though

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>>323532673
>Finished 06
>Didn't finish Colors

What the fuck? What does a game have to do for you to finish it?

>>323533361
>the medals aren't so bad!
>talking to npc's is cool guys!
>hubs!
cmon, are you fucking kidding me. kill yourself

>>323533295
Great ideas actually familia. does australia have any interesting sights? Maybe that could get swapped for hawaii since we got that with adabat.

>>323533321
>Medals were super easy to get
Bullshit,they were a pain in the ass to get and you fucking know it
Fetching a stone key to unlock the door to Windy Valley is nothing in comparison to that shit

>>323533361
>You have poor taste in music then that grates my ears hearing it for too long.
Nah you have poor taste in music...that music is comfy as fuck

>Wow backtracking in a sonic level sure is hard.

>Most of them are right there unless you wanted to get that B rank so badly cause you know you weren't at max stats when starting the game.

>actually defending bullshit padding

>>323533295
If they make the day stages better and removed the Warehog I'm all for this.

>>323533416
Back to reddit with you faggot

I don't care
Just make a good game.

>>323533607
Seeing a Trainwreck from beginning to end is more interesting than just watching Train drive by the station.

>>323533591
That was probably to get newcomers to 3D gaming accustomed to 3D but goddamn that's unintentionally funny nowadays

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>>323519062
>Classic Sonic is being referred to as "Pixel Sonic"

>>323533614
I was thinking of replacing the American Southwest with the West Coast, with a '60s surf theme, and replacing Spagonia with an India country. The Tokyo city would probably be the "home" area of the game.

>>323521151
*Robotnik

>>323533685
Why? You have people crying for more exploration and to slow down in sonic and they get the chance to do so by keeping an eye out for medals and playing carefully. And then they start crying again saying they actually dont want exploration? Need to make up their fucking mind. I only had to hunt for medals once in the game near the end because I was missing like 10. I wasnt even trying to hunt them down and yet I pretty much had enough. Later when i went to platinum the game I thought it was actually fun to play it different and explore more with both sonics to find medals.

>>323533823
Not if you're a fan of trains, which you dont seem to be. I bet you own a Wii u

>>323533465
I know I like a game that people hate.

Anyone who likes sonic games has poor taste.

Just Sonic 1-3 fags get annoyed when someone likes a 3d Sonic game.

>>323533609
Better than doing shit missions in a hub world to open up a level gate.

In Unleashed you didn't even have to talk to the NPC's to get further with the story Most of it was for achievement completion.

>>323533685
You just suck thats all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijp986PFB2o

This or the day time music is better then Station Squares shit.

>>323533928
Yeah only time I had trouble when I first played I didn't have enough to get into Adabats stage gate like most people probably did. If you got stuck earlier you just fucking suck at the game.

>>323533928
>You have people crying for more exploration
yea, you're baiting.

>>323533607
My hype carried me the entire way, I wasn't enjoying myself playing 06 but I had to complete it, I HAD to, I could only complete it with Sonic as that was the only character I give a shit about in that game..

>>323533928
>Need to make up their fucking mind
The game needs to make up it's mind.
You don't make the fastest and most linear Sonic yet, and then require you keep an eye out for medals and explore to progress. The design is schizophrenic.

you guys all suck we need sonic 3d blast style again.

>>323519062
>Archie Sonic is now called "comic book Sonic"
and if you think this has anything to do with the games you're a fool
sega likes the licensing $ but thats as far as they go with it, otherwise they really want nothing to do with it

>>323534116
good lord, no

>>323534116
3D Blast minus the flickies and actually 3D would be pretty cool.

>>323533881
Like a california beach? That would be an awesome location and surfboard gimmicks could potentially be great in the ocean. I would keep spagonia though, there is tons of countries in europe that could be swapped out with italy. Swap mazuri because who cares about africa. Id say mazuri and holoska could be free slots while theres enough differences in locations in the current countries to make it exciting

>>323533928
>Why? You have people crying for more exploration and to slow down in sonic and they get the chance to do so
Are you fucking kidding me?

First off
There's barely anything to explore in the Unleashed Hub Worlds
Medals are nothing but McGuffins

Second off
The exploration should be in the levels themselves like in the classic games not relegated to it's own section you retard

>>323533928
You clearly played this when you were age 15 and now you're forcing everyone in this topic to like this shitty ass game.

>>323534181
Why not? It was better than most people give it credit for. Certainly better than most of the 3D games.

>>323534031
>You just suck thats all.
>this or the day time music is better then Station Squares shit.
They're all great to me son
The music is awesome in both games

>>323534209
He was talking about the levels though....

>>323534190
isometric platforming with momentum would still be shit

So Sonic Generations 2 is pretty much confirmed sorta?

>>323534116
Gimme Richard Jacques music(and tell him to fucking lay off his Cinematic/Orchestral Style of music he enjoys using nowadays and go full on 90s Rave Music) and I'm there

I actually played the PS2 version of Unleashed 2 hours ago. Horrible, just horrible

>>323534268
No.

>>323534268
No, it's on the same level as ShtH, and only '06 is worse than it.

>>323534319
It worked fine in 3D Blast though. Although I was thinking something with a controllable camera when I said I wouldn't mind a similar game.

>>323534031
Yeah it was with adabat now that I remember since the spike was higher than usual, but it still was easy as fuck to find a couple medals to continue.

>>323534107
If its linear then shouldnt it be even easier to find medals since theres not that many places to hide them?

>>323534209
The exploring for medals is in the main gameplay levels. The hubs have a couple medals tossed in but theyre all majority in the levels.

>>323534267
Nice try, was 20 when Unleashed came out and still waiting for a Sonic game to come out as half as good as it and full of content, like unleashed.

>>323519062
http://www.destructoid.com/sega-teases-plans-for-sonic-s-25th-anniversary-with-big-the-cat-332942.phtml

>>323533994
I bet you own a dick your ass.

>>323534427
>It worked fine in 3D Blast though.
No it didn't.

>>323534301
Then that's even more funny considering that majority of the levels are linear hallways

Add to the fact that the game pushes you to go fast all the time there's no real reason to slow down for a tiny corridor here and there

Adventurefags disgust me. You can tell they played them on Gamecube too, probably their first Sonic. So what you have is Nintendo fans coming in to your Sonic threads and telling you that the Adventures are good games. Quite sad, some people actually buy it too

>>323521151
>Matpat could of done some research and found this
>instead he guessed it using shitty math and a canonically taller version of Sonic
Fucking hell.

Sonic's a fucking manlet though. 3 foot 7 inches is tiny.

>>323534454
Anon, stop.

You are defending trinkets used only for gating that added literally nothing of value to the game.

Just stop.

>>323534427
Just stop. 3D Blast was shit. Nobody likes it for a reason.

Knuckle's Chaotix on the other hand was actually a great game.

>>323534482
oh ok

>>323534413
>>323534416
Let me guess, you guys are casuals who thought he was hard to control? The game played fine to anyone with an iota of skill. The level designs were solid and the bosses were great. It was much better than tripe like Heroes, 06, Unleashed, Secret Rings, and Lost World.

>>323534454
>The exploring for medals is in the main gameplay levels
It's collectathon bullshit in a game that isn't a collectathon

Don't mix up slowing down for collectables with exploration

>>323534579
Explain how SA1 is bad without resorting to "Big the Cat"

>>323534579
I love the Adventure games, played the Classics years before I knew anything about them, played them on the Dreamcast and never a Nintendo console, and like their gameplay, controls, and level-design.

>>323534281
Yeah I have no probs with the music just the experience when going back to that game that hurts my heart.

>>323534319
That's why we'll have 2d with no momentum at all.

>>323534402
Thank you here's hoping he does something good if he shows up.

>>323534541
In the early parts of the game you shouldn't even be boosting a lot unless you raised up your boosting the whole time to make yourself have a terrible time with the Werehog. Otherwise you aren't going that fast to miss those >narrow corridors

>>323534454
>Yeah it was with adabat now that I remember since the spike was higher than usual, but it still was easy as fuck to find a couple medals to continue.

Yeah I remember screwing up and having to check through levels and finding out I missed those side acts that had medals in them.

>>323534623
>Sonic's a fucking manlet
He's not even a man.

>>323534650
>Knuckle's Chaotix on the other hand was actually a great game.
No. Levels were way too samey and bland for the game to be enjoyable.
I liked the special stages though.

>>323534579
My first Sonic was the original on Genesis. I never owned a Gamecube, and played both Adventure games on Dreamcast. They're great games. Try not to project so hard next time you shitpost.

>>323534698
No, it's just that it's slow as shit and isometric platforming is fucking stupid. Also the game is just boring and ugly.

>>323534713
>>323534648

Its replayability and gives you something to look for in the levels (exploring) besides brute rushing to the end

>>323534753
>Levels were way too samey and bland for the game to be enjoyable

Oh, ok so you've never played it.

>>323534698
Anon, there's a reason it got mixed reviews, even in the '90s when people still knew how to play non-movies, but I guess every game has an audience.

>>323528541
Finally, fucking thank you.

3D Blast's good music is all in the Genesis version, fuck that shitty off-sounding Saturn OST.

>>323519651
>more popular and iconic than pacman
>more popular and iconic than mario
it dont add up

>>323534749
>Thank you here's hoping he does something good if he shows up.
He did Sonic Boom:Shattered Crystal
The stuff he did which was more electronic/techno-ish was great like these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfeVu6BFeJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq3_LWUDMPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUccNxhAxvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXfaoF_UtoA

It's just the atmospheric/cinematic shit that while good just isn't my shit(I also don't think it suits Sonic) and there were a lot of those 1611

>>323534919
It's not slow if you know what you're doing. Speed came from playing well, as it should. The platforming worked fine too. You either sucked at the game or your ADD didn't let you get through it. Sonic games shouldn't be about going fast all the time. You only get to go fast once you get good at them. That's what the boost games got wrong.

>>323534958
It's padding not replayability

>>323535313
Why is it padding

>>323535121
If you were saying this about the classics I'd agree
But...Sonic 3D Blast...nah fuck no

Sonic 3D Blast was a weird game with Sonic in it
Even based Hirokazu Yasuhara himself disapproved of it(and he worked on it too)

"I was opposed to [Sega's] decision to create games that use 'Sonic-something' so that they can sell it easily. I wanted to make good games, not any games that used the Sonic character in a haphazard way."
- Yasuhara on his work on the Traveller's Tales-developed Sonic titles

>>323534958
It would be replayability if it didn't block off the rest of the main content.

>>323535121
>It's not slow if you know what you're doing

Except it is. If you went to fast, you got hit from shit that came at you from an awkward angle. There are no straight or open areas where you can run and advance to the next part. 3D Blast is about exploring and collecting Flickey's, not going fast and getting to he end of the stage.

The game is incredibly easy and boring. Stop acting like it takes any skill to beat it.

maybe "Pixel Sonic" means the 2d sonic game will actually be a legit sprite game.

>>323535450
Because it's not fun
Nobody in their right mind enjoys collecting worthless bullshit
That's Shovelware mentality right there

>>323535450
>>323535313
>Anything that makes me have to go back to a level to get something is always padding if it doesn't make me progress.

Unleashed had a lot of shit. If you collected medals enough you'd unlock music and other artwork that you don't normally find in levels along with the CD's and the Books in the levels as well. Its not just the medals but searching for the medals often lead you to find the other things as well.

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>>323519062
Maybe this year will be Sally Acorn's year.

>>323535669
And that was in Generations too. But you didn't have to collect it to beat the main game. You do in Unleashed. It's padding. Dont try to hide it, even the devs acknowledged that "we need to make sonic games longer somehow" at the time

>>323535669
But it's not nearly as fun as playing Sonic 3K and after 20 years still finding secret areas in Marble Garden

>>323535647
But >>323535669

So what about all those "platformers" from the n64 that barely have any actual platforming and is just a randomly generated shitty giant world with shit scattered around for autists to collect? The n64 must be king of shovelware then if collecting things in a platformer is the new criteria to make it bad

>>323535861
>"we need to make sonic games longer somehow
Which is the dumbest shit ever

What they need to do is make the gameplay good

Sonic 1 is an hour long yet it never feels too short for a reason

>>323535950
I can't speak for others but except for Mario 64 I absolutely loathe N64 platformers
Fucking hate Rare's bullshit during that time period...they were the ones who invented this shovelware bullcrap with Banjo Kazooie

>>323535950
>The n64 must be king of shovelware
Right on the money actually

>>323535972
You cant charge sixty bucks for a 1hr game