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Does Smash Bros. pose a legitimate threat to society, /v/?
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>>277283669
Who is this faggot and why does he hate fun?
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>>277283816
Anita's partner, and the guy who writes for her.
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>smash bros. spreads a message that violence solves confli
That's it I'm done. I'm fucking done. I don't want to be on this ride anymore, this is the straw that breaks the camel's back.

This has gone past the level of being a plain old "SJW," and has become the musings of a jen-yoo-eye'n sociopath with no grounding in the real world whatsoever. We are long past the point of ever listening to a word that this mongol blithers out of his disgusting maw, let alone taking him seriously.
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>>277283669
>twittershit

>>>/out/
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>>277283916
That explains everything.
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thanks, i needed the laugh
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>>277283669
Why is this guy anyways? Why are people giving a fuck about his tweets? Is he somehow important to anyone outside of /V/?
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>>277283669
>Does Smash Bros. pose a legitimate threat to society, /v/?
Considering the kind of people who play the games? It's a distinct possibility.
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>>277283669

That's because it does? I'm pretty sure all my conflicts with this faggot would be resolved if I could punch him in his face.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qjk2x/4chans_v_exposed_to_fullmcintosh_keep_showing/

Reminder that McIntosh threads are reddit raids
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Is McIntosh a Borat type character or just a really unfortunate human?
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>>277284369
Both
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In terms of memes he is right and no game or any other form of media is innocent of them
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I still don't understand why game sites take him seriously

Schafer appeared in his fucking video, for chrissakes
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>>277283669
Boxing promotes violence solving conflicts. Ban Boxing.
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I'm not a antiSJW-hypocrite, but I seriously hope this guy doesn't think he's asking some kind of original or relevant questions. 90's video game discussion, welcome back.
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He's not wrong. Their entire marketing campaign revolves around it
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Hahahaha oh wow. Anyone take this guy seriously any more (that matters, Anita doesn't count).

I remember that my habit of curling up into a ball and spindashing into others started with me playing Sonic 2 on the Sega.
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#fullmcintosh
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>>277284479
Because "game"sites have people from his cult.
Is probably the reason they are going away from videogames and into "social justice"
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Continuing in that thread, Ben Kuchera joins in. It just gets worse.
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>>277284341
If anything that proves plebbit hasn't been here. We've been laughing at his dumb bullshit for a long time.
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>>277284289

Writer for femfreq, fucks ear hoops
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I say yes, because I want to make Nintendogaf angry. Smash is a very problematic game.
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>>277284710
this fucking guy
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>>277284639
Why video games/comics/cartoons are filled with these radicals?
I mean, I would have understood literature or even fucking TV shows but video games and cartoons? What does a video game have anything to do with social, gender or race issues?
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ITT people who slept through MGR
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I love this guy.

He's like at the center of the SJW game movement, the creator of it all.

And he is absolutely fucking batshit crazy.

I love it. Hope he gets more publicity so that people realize who they are rooting for.
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>>277283928

You shouldnt be mad

lmao at being "done" with irrelevant mongoloids on twitter, why would you even start with them?
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You gave this guy power /v/
You made his anita puppet famous

well done
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>>277284901
You know very little if you think Jonathan McIntosh is irrelevant in any way
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A true paragon of free speech, that lad
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>>277284958

Being made fun of on image boards does not make one famous, you know.
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>>277284958
Except not really
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>>277284479
>Schafer
Mr. Shitface is part of their whole movement though.
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>>277284842
I'm convinced it all goes back to the fact that video games are not yet on the same 'level' as movies and books. To us, yes, but to the majority of the public, including the media, hell no.
Just look at The Interview. People were demanding for this film, which at the end of a day is a comedy about a plot to kill someone, to come out as a principle of free speech and not to be silenced. Just a month or so prior, GTA5 gets pulled from some shelves in Australia because of some bullshit reasoning and no one really cares.
This makes video games the PERFECT place for SJWs to plant their ideas and begin their little revolution. If they tried pulling shit like petitions against movies and books, they are either laughed out or completely ignored, because of how those media are treated. You try convincing everyone that adult human beings will develop violent tendencies because they watched The Raid or Transformers or something and everyone will think you're nuts. But because it's video games, they can get away with this shit. I know I was a bit circular with my argument, but I hope I got the point across.
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>>277284958
>You gave this guy power /v/
>You made his anita puppet famous
It was Twitter and Tumblr the ones who stirred shit with these two as their frontheads.
I didn't know making fun of somebody on 4chan actually made them famous worldwide.
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Your concern is just to bring discomfort, my friend~
And your policy is just a little red~
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>>277284710
>Why are mutants, zombies, robots, aliens and nazis so popular as game baddies? Because they can all be slaughtered en masse without empathy
>and nazis

Wait wait
He is actually saying we should have empathy of the nazis?
Because i find that pretty funny
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>there're
I hate this.
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>>277284479
Because most people in the industry agree with the idea of "maybe making the industry more welcoming to women isn't a bad idea" because they aren't fucking 12.
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>>277285226
work on your bait
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>>277285152
>This makes video games the PERFECT place for SJWs to plant their ideas

I thought this was about ethics in games journalism :^)
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That guy sounds like he's impossible to get along with. Like everyone fucking hates it when he decides to join in on a conversation at parties.
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>>277285179
He isn't wrong there.
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>>277285226
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Reminder that this guy is literally /pol/
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>violence solves conflict
Yes, in a fighting contest violence solves conflict.
Also, chess promotes the idea that moving stuff solves conflict. How fucked up is that?

Most SJW sound like they're grasping at straws in their critiques, but McIntosh is just way beyond that. Everything he says is nothing short of bananas, and I'm pretty sure that if he read this he'd point out how I made use of a figure of speech that features a phallic shape. "Very telling indeed".
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>>277285275
He probably hates everybody too.
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>>277285087
Yeah, and I can't get over it. Shit's frustrating.

San Francisco is fucking brain poison.
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>>277285347
>Also, chess promotes the idea that moving stuff solves conflict. How fucked up is that?

One of the pilars of the patriarchy is control!
And patriarchy is the reason the King piece is the important one, not the Queen!
Chees is a patriarchy brainwashing tool
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>>277285347
>play Smash Run
>get Climb
>learn that jumping solves conflict
>am now ableist

You can't win.
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>>277285181
That's not what he's saying at all man, he's saying those are what we put in games so we can have an excuse to murder things without feeling guilty.
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>>277285357
What is it about San Francisco and to a lesser extent Portland? I mean New York and Boston are liberal bastions and yet you never see the Social Justice BS come from there.
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Wasn't this the guy who threatened violence against "nerds" or something himself? Sage for not really video games.
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>>277284710
Oh no those poor zombies
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Why do you keep posting this guy's tweets?

Maybe go play video games instead.
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>>277285476
Which is true. I might disagree with the conclusions he draws from the evidence but most of what he says is perfectly sane on its own
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>>277285573

Remember, if something like a zombie outbreak does occur, they need to be met with social support, not violence! Violence doesn't solve anything.
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>>277284842
Lowest hanging fruit and all that

Also, dead-end game "journos" who are desperate to prove their line of work isn't pathetic. They want to show it as "adult" and as such they start grasping for any straw available.
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>>277283669
he's gotta be trolling at this point. this is just too ridiculous.
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>>277285590
>murdering THESE specific things en masse is OK but murdering THESE specific things en masse is horrible!
Either don't put any limits on what you can frag in video games or go all the way you fucking idiot.
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>>277285448

>Current rules of chess
>"The king is the most important piece despite the queen being clearly being the most capable unit in the game, this is clearly the view of male pigs who want to be in control"

>If the roles were reversed
>"How come the queen is seen as a figure to be protected by every unit while the king can freely go and display his skills as a warrior? The queen is just as capable of doing the same, this is the most disgusting example of the patriarchy I have ever seen!"
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>>277285590
Yeah it's obviously true in itself but there being anything wrong with it is idiotic. Actual real world violence isn't going to go away if violent video games are banned.
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>>277283669
>Smash bros
>Conflicts

Smash bros has a conflict?
Violence never solves conflicts? Never has and never will and never should?
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>>277285590
>most of what he says is perfectly sane on its own

Yes, that's the problem. He posts the most trivial, inane shit, then incorporates a batshit conclusion.

>why is it that we think the goal of Pong is to get the ball past the other player rather than work together to keep the ball moving forever
>in case you couldn't tell, the ball is the welfare of the proletariat
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>>277285490
Because we didn't follow fools gold.
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>>277285627
>implying this entire thing isn't just because chucklefucks on the internet think it's funny to go around attacking/harassing/whateverthefuckyouwannacallit people because they can and no one can do anything about it so there is more solidarity amongst friends of people who are on the receiving end of that.

I guarantee you that's all it fucking is.

>trolls go around being inflammatory
>people get upset
>people get mad that people act that way
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>>277284710
>Why are mutants, zombies, robots, aliens, and nazis so popular as game baddies? Because they can all be slaughtered en masse without empathy.
Well, he has a point there. I mean the same people who love games like Call of Duty and GTA thought Hatred was horrible and immoral because the enemies were ordinary people and not cartoonish terrorists or nazis or some shit like that.
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>>277285590
>most of what he says is perfectly sane on its own
Like fucking what
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>>277285476
>>277285590
Except "zombies, mutants, aliens and nazis" in videogames are the same 0 and 1 that "humans" and nobody gives a shit about running over people in GTA, nor do they give a shit about running over zombies in the censored version of Carmaggedon. Because they aren't real you dipshit

Plus you can kill Hitler in videogames, and Hitler was a nazi, so he is basically saying you should feel guilty for killing Hitler, you monster
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>>277285759
>Smash bros has a conflict?

Yeah, you're smashing toys together and pretending they're fighting, and some toys want to be the more smashier.
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>>277285283
Fuck off commie
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>>277285765
Aw shit man, I could actually see him saying that
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>>277285816
>implying you shouldn't feel guilty for executing the only man enlightened enough to show us The Truth
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>>277283669
Who the fuck is this guy and why is /v/ obsessed with him?
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>>277285814
McIntosh is a master of doublethinking, he may as well claim /v/ is the worst for defending Hitler and then he will go ahead to defend Hitler because muh videogame violence
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>>277285908
Who the fuck is this retard and why does he post in threads he hasn't read?
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>>277284958
Why do /v/irgins still think they're the ones who made Anita known?
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>>277285957
why are you still in denial
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>>277285957
Massive delusions.
See also: every case of a game /v/ hates flopping making /v/ think they caused it by making angry threads.
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>>277285935

What you have to understand is that when he kills Hitler in a video game, he's killing Hitler, but when "gamers" kill Hitler in a video game, they're killing the guy who killed Hitler.
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>>277285853
if you don't like america then you can just git out
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>>277285951
>reading 85 posts of people going back and forth agreeing that what he said is stupid

Helpful as fuck.
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>>277285765
The problem is that they presume a deeper message, then manipulate and misrepresent the evidence to support that conclusion.
I mean this guy tried to find a message in baneposting and bateman. It's not just because we find it funny and funny things catch on, we must agree with them on a certain deeper level
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>>277285957
No one but retards think that
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>>277285181
>not having empathy for the good guys
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>>277284710
>Muh zombies, mutants, robots and niggers did nuthing wrong

Germany here.
We get games censored to that because Games are children toys.
I wonder how much bitching McIntosh will have if he discovers that.
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>>277285957
Humor me, how did Anita get known?
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>>277286049

Literally the first reply asked the same question as you and got an answer.
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>>277283669
So how do we must solve boxing conflicts from now on?
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>>277286065
>this guy tried to find a message in baneposting and bateman

Source?
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>>277285782
>I guarantee you that's all it fucking is.
The only thing you can guarantee is your complete idiocy and ignorance. Beat it mangina.
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>>277283669
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>>277284710
I like how he says mutants, zombies, robots, aliens and nazis. But doesn't mention japs, russians or towelheads.
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>>277286001
/v/ caused zero escape to flop, I hope you're happy
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Can you please stop paying this retarded asshole attention?
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>>277286118
>having empathy for people who killed 6 million jews in an attempt to systematically exterminate their entire race
Oh wow.
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>>277286349
>6Million

Lel
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>>277284581
>anti-sjw hypocrite
how long have you been here, son?
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>>277286349
>6 million


I'm not even /pol/
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>>277286349
>having empathy for people who cripple nations and enslave people via usury
Oh wow.
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>>277286437
>>277286490
this is my favorite meme :)
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>>277286001
/V/ also cancelled Fez 2.
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>>277285181
Dude, the average Wehrmacht soldier was just a Joe like you or me. They just happened to be born in the wrong country.
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>>277286118
I do, but sadly McIntosh apparently doesn't have empathy for Italians and Japs
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>>277286349
>m-muh holohoax!
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Sometimes, a fun game is just that.
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>>277286229
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So according to Mcintosh, /pol/ was right?
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>>277286627
>having empathy for japs
Remember Nanking. All the Axis did horrible war crimes. Thank god they lost.
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>>277283816
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>>277286765
He's still not wrong
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>>277286824
Don't make me post the wiki detailing how britbongs bombed German towns so hard the streets were running with human soup
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>>277286765
>4chan has used Bateman as a mascot for years

I hope his rulers doubled his salary for this scoop.
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>>277286824
>Not having empathy for the Axis
>But having empathy for the Soviet rape and British and Americans civilian bombing

YOU SHITLORD
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>>277286832
This is true but I feel no remorse
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But there is no "conflict" in SSB, it's like saying there's "conflict" in boxing and fencing.

And if you believe that violence is bad, then I suggest fucking off to a different universe, when violent absorption of other systems and reproduction aren't the two main goals of life.
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>>277286832
this sounds like a tweet someone would make right after losing a match in mario kart because of a blue shell
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>>277286832
>wanting people to feel powerless

Has anything ever been more obviously leading up to FEMA camps?
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>>277287014
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>>277286832
I don't know, I really enjoyed Monster Truck Madness 2 back in the day and that wasn't violent at all.
Or more recently The Long Dark.
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>>277286765
I'm pretty sure this is 4chan's mascot.
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Thank God Ben is here to stop those communist propagandists
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>>277287014

Blue shells don't make the game fair. All they do is reinforce the fact that there has to be a winner. I hope one day Nintendo will see the light and make a Mario Kart game where you just cruise freely around the tracks - following the speed limit and traffic laws, of course.
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>>277286832
That's not true you retard. "Usually" this, "most" that. Provide some fucking proof for your insane statements.
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>>277286832
and feeling powerful is bad because...?

it makes you see yourself as an independent entity that does not need peer group affirmation and support to think thoughts?
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>>277285490
http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2q89fy/meta_ever_wonder_whats_up_with_san_francisco/
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>>277287081
Yep.
Remeber when Shindol released the doujin with Yotsuba? So much mad on every board.
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>>277286929
The brits and americans bombed in retaliation from the horrible blitz by the cruel aggressor nation of nazi germany. The soviets raped in revenge over having been stabbed in the back by the nazis. Both are justifiable.
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>>277287104
>profiting off the simulated death of 6 million trillion pixels

Is Gabe officially worse than Hitler?
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>>277287057
What's FEMA?
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If there's one thing that thousands of years of recorded history has taught us it's that violence does solve conflicts.
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I get the hate for this but I do think it's interesting that videogames (heck, games in general) most often rely on conflict in order to be enjoyable.

I'm not saying as a general rule of thumb it's not true (freely admit that all the games I enjoy most involve conflict). I'm not even saying this is a bad thing. It just means that it's slightly refreshing to play a game that doesn't rely on having to shoot/beat the shit out of someone I guess.

pic related, I know it's not vidya but I like card games and we played this with a bunch of us the other week, it was bizarre to have a group game where the goal is just to help each other.
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>>277287118
Bravo Ben!
Bravo!

Having grow up with my parent's being from a former communist country, bravo!
Thank you for standing up to those horrible Russian folk song writers!
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>>277287316
It solved the Nazi problem quite effectively.
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>>277287118
Isn't it just a folk song? Thats like saying that a game having the melody of Yankee Doodle is making a political statement.
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>>277287104
>we shouldn't allow hate speech
Are these people insane? Don't they realize that they're suggesting removing THE fundamental building block of western civilization, free speech?
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Fuck off, Josh.
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>>277286832
>Other living things

Are we still talking about video games? Did this reject just allude to the notion that he considers pixels and game characters to be alive?
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>>277287413
According to McIntosh we should have done nothing and let them go the merryway
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>>277287374
They're video games
Games are just a competition (often against the computer/ designer)
Competition is just friendly conflict.
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>>277287374
>I get the hate for this but I do think it's interesting that videogames (heck, games in general) most often rely on conflict in order to be enjoyable.
What games don't? The entire point of a game is conflict. Sports, board games, hide and seek, whatever you want. A game is a contest.
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>>277287374
all fiction and stories employ some form of conflict to be actually interesting.
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>>277285152
>and no one really cares.
probably because moral-hags in straya are slightly less interesting than North Korean terror attacks
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>>277287276
Federal Emergency Management Agency

There's a popular conspiracy theory that they'll round up Americans in camps in response to a false-flag "epidemic" or something like that.
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>Inb4 SJWs storm the thread and talk about GamerGate
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These people are insane. Certified loons.
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Have you ever just hated someone?

Like, you haven't even met them and barely know who they are but you despise them?

This guy makes me feel that hate.
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>>277284289
He writes every word that comes out of Anita S.'s mouth and thanks to you guys she has a very large audience and a good bit of influence here and there
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>>277286242
>muh conspiracy
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>>277287374
Lots of vidya doesn't revolve around conflict either

Most casual\puzzle games, raising sims...
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What youtubers or tweeters are on our side /v/? I know TotalBiscuit and Sargon of Akkad.
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>>277287118
>a game created in a communist dicatorship looks and sounds like a game created in a communist dictatorship
>hurrr I'm a cultural critic of new media, recklessly analyzing hidden biases in political messages in artistic interactive digital works
good fucking lord
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I don't think this one has been posted yet, hot off the presses
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>>277287417
An 80s Soviet game using a folk tune from Imperial Russia

What an outrageous political statement!!!
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>>277285152
> You try convincing everyone that adult human beings will develop violent tendencies because they watched The Raid or Transformers or something and everyone will think you're nuts.

Although passed uncut for UK cinemas in December 1971, British authorities considered the sexual violence in the film to be extreme. In March 1972, during the trial of a fourteen-year-old male accused of the manslaughter of a classmate, the prosecutor referred to A Clockwork Orange, suggesting that the film had a macabre relevance to the case.[40] The film was also linked to the murder of an elderly vagrant by a 16-year-old boy in Bletchley, Buckinghamshire, who pleaded guilty after telling police that friends had told him of the film "and the beating up of an old boy like this one." Roger Gray QC, for the defence, told the court that "the link between this crime and sensational literature, particularly A Clockwork Orange, is established beyond reasonable doubt".[41] The press also blamed the film for a rape in which the attackers sang "Singin' in the Rain" as "Singin' in the Rape".[42] Christiane Kubrick, the director's wife, has said that the family received threats and had protesters outside their home.[43]

Subsequently, Kubrick asked Warner Brothers to withdraw the film from British distribution. In response to allegations that the film was responsible for copycat violence Kubrick stated: "To try and fasten any responsibility on art as the cause of life seems to me to put the case the wrong way around. Art consists of reshaping life, but it does not create life, nor cause life. Furthermore, to attribute powerful suggestive qualities to a film is at odds with the scientifically accepted view that, even after deep hypnosis in a posthypnotic state, people cannot be made to do things which are at odds with their natures."[44]
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>>277287374

Games are an interactive medium. You need an incentive to interact with it and put up with its shit for hours and hours. Some games get by purely by offering enjoyable aesthetic experiences, but you can only have so much of that, so most games are based on winning (beating the game, winning matches, etc.). Winning requires some form of conflict, even if it's not violent.
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>>277287413
>nazis
>problem
Peaceful deportations of subversive Jews, reclaiming rightful clay, and halting Soviet aggression can hardly be called a problem.
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>>277287692
isnt the new sci fi Anno game something like that?
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>>277287543

Conflict is literally the basis for every story ever. You cannot have a story without having conflict (well, not an interesting story anyway).
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>>277287640
>Thanks to you guys

Bullshit. See >>277285070
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>>277287648
Go to bed Zoe.
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>>277287692
Ugh. Are there any fighting games which DON'T encourage you to treat your opponent as something that must be destroyed?
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>>277287692
If he hates civilization so much, why doesn't he fuck off and live in a forest?
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>>277287661
>our side
Who gives a shit? This isn't about us vs. them. This is about Jonathan McIntosh and, by extension, the people he associates with being fucking wackjobs. You don't need someone famous to vouch for you to recognize when someone is completely insane.
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>>277286832
>doing violence
ahahaha.
AHAHAHAHA.
He's a writer? Good fucking god.
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>>277287712
To say that a game is childish because it has a silly or stylized aesthetic is just plain insulting. Okami is a beautiful game. And Wind Waker still looks good today.
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>>277287712
>hurr this challenging platformer should be grimdark and edgy
can't this faggot kill himself already?
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>>277284710
>Dad's home in the San Juan islands
>Plays Diablo 3
>despite preaching about antiviolence and social justice

This single image tells you all you need to know about him
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>>277287572
These sorts of threads have definitely had less if that these past few days.
Pretty much proves it's casual normalfags perpetrating it.
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>"Games have been an influential part of my life since I was about 8 years old. My dad would always have a few machines loaded with games for me. When I was about 10, I remember I campaigned for months to convince my parents that the Game Boy was not in fact just for boys. I’ve always been enthusiastic about games." - Anita Sarkeesian, 2013 (http://www.feministfrequency.com/2013/06/full-ign-interview-with-anita-sarkeesian/)

>"I'm not a fan of video games, I had to actually learn a lot about videogames in the process of making this. I would love to play video games, but I don't want to go around shooting people and ripping off their heads, it's just gross." - Anita Sarkeesian, 2010 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afgtd8ZsXzI)
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>>277287692
Jesus fucking christ this guy

i mean
whta

what is he even suggesting

this is all lining up with his ideas about "indigenous science"
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>every single video game has to be 2deep4u bullshit
>think that he'll claim tetris has a deeper meaning
>read the follow up tweets and he actually fucking does

I want off the ride.

https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/548977301539418112
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>>277287692
The very basis of strategy games. Especially Civilization games is to build, expand and prosper. A lot of the time prospering takes up resources.
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>>277283669
>play a fighting game
>complain that the core gameplay revolves around fighting

McIntosh, ladies in gentlemen.

Seriously though, Anon. Stop giving this nutjob any attention. There's a lot of vocal, stupid people in the world.
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>>277287712
Games are child toys by law in Germany
Nazis = 1
McIntosh = tears
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>>277287692

I know Tropico has limited resources, soil degradation, environmental happiness, pollution, etc. which punish excessive exploitation. So yeah, of course you build farms and mine and so on, but you also invest in reforestation, water treatment plants, etc.
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>>277286765
Bateman only represents that it's hip to be square.
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>>277287849
Yeah it is about is and them. It's SJW retards voicing off of Twitter and YouTube, against people also on that social media telling them they're insane retards. Just as we want to know who the bad guys are, we should want to know who the guys on our side are.
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>>277287830

UGH!! Like, NO! They're all the same! it's so creepy and like gross???
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>>277287572
>>277287927
Some are already here dingus, read the thread.
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>>277287692
I can't think of a single game that does this. In no civilization game is there anything to suggest you're exploiting the environment, quite the contrary actually since you have the same tiles for thousands of years so if you didn't utilize them correctly you wouldn't keep getting the resources, and i've never seen a game where you can frack, or strip mine, or do something actually harmful to the environment.

Unless the very act of using resources is exploitation, in which case eating, drinking, and having a roof above your head all make you a terrible person.
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>>277283669
But violence is one of the components that solves conflicts

Let fools be fools
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>>277286158
tumblr and Twitter
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>dumb fuck says shit on twitter
>almost nobody reads it
How is this shitter any different than the other thousands of people with shit opinions?
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>>277286765
>supposed cultural critic doesnt understand the difference between a meme and a mascot

lol what a hack
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>>277288093
He's behind anita
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>>277287927
>it's casual normalfags perpetrating it

No, it's SJWs who flocked to 4chan after moot removed GG.

They've been pushing a "/v/ never cared about shitty journalism" narrative every time there's a Kotaku thread, despite /v/ having Kotaku hate threads years before GG was even a thing.
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>>277287946
>Feminism experts do not feel superior. However we are in a better position to judge the quality of games than most.

I have real trouble believing that anyone could say this seriously. This has to be tongue-in-cheek because it's so obviously contradictory, right?
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How on earth is twitter so good at bringing out the inner ugliness in people?
It's like broadcasting your thoughts onto the entire web.
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>>277286349

g8 b8 m8
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>>277288001
I want to sit on his face so bad.
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>>277288001
he also never actually killed anyone in that movie
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>>277288093

we've said it a million times already
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>>277288150
Anything's possible when you go full mcintosh
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>>277288180
It is a fast and easy way for you to post your inner musings with no filter. s
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>>277287692
>>277288056
>Exploit the world in Call to Power or Alpha Centauri
>Planet gets fucked which damages your civilization
>Sea level rises, fucking you over
>You could argue a point of the gameplay is to fit the balance between production and not getting fuck over by mindworms
>Nope. McIntosh isn't that smart too see the connection
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>>277288045
So I guess the Boss, Meryl and Olga mean nothing?

>There will never be a WW2 where you play as The Boss.
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>>277288056
Alpha Centauri.
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>>277288180

Sometimes it's not so bad

Twitter and facebook does prove that identity does not stop people from being assholes compared to anonymity, though
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>>277288315
But don't you get punished if you destroy the environment too much? Isn't the message actually the opposite of what he's claiming it to be?
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>>277285226
Too bad he opens the conversation with a decent, socially accepted idea, then goes off the deep end into ranting about how the entire world is out to get women.

Its a nice tactic to get people to join cults.
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It's just the typical cultural cringe that's expected from the radical left. They hate the idea of free people in democratic societies having fun and are falling over themselves to defend radical Islam.
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>>277288354
TB on Christmas told people to get offline and spend time with family and friends.
He then proceded to spend the whole day on twitter tweeting and replying to people.
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>>277288285

>Go away

My sides.
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>>277288429
Do as I say, not as I do.
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>>277287523
>>277287539
>>277287543
>>277287718

yep! I get you. I said "most games".

Games that are both enjoyable and don't involve conflict are still the exception to the rule, and it's cool to have stuff that breaks the mold.

>>277287651 i'd still say those games are maybe less well represented overall. sims, puzzles, more "experience-based" games, like Journey or something don't sell as well as the latewt CoD. these also happen to be the genres of gaming most often associated with female gamers who are kinda vilified for playing them by some folks

also if you genuinely think a game can't be fun and involve no actual conflict, i'd highly suggest trying Hanabi out *shilling intensifies*
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>>277288429
So?
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>>277288391

You can destroy parts of the environment for short-term gain and ultimately come out ahead.
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>>277288429

Yes, and?
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>>277288473
>yep! I get you. I said "most games".
And all the people you replied to said "no, all games." Get your shit straight before posting.
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>>277283669
Get the fuck out of here, goober grape, you're no longer welcome.
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>twitter drama
/v/ why are you so obsessed with this guy. I'm convinced he just spouts stupid shit on social media because he knows you'll just take screenshots and take it back here
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>>277288030
The mentality of us and them is what started this entire mess in the FIRST PLACE, you nut. That was what gave rise to GG, which allowed a central point for McIntosh, Sarkeesian, Alexander, etc. to attack relentlessly with rhetoric and propoganda. As soon as you attack feminists as a whole group without giving individual attention, you immediately make their point seem valid and they, in a sense, "win."
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>>277288473
>don't sell as well

Who give s afuck?

And have you seen shit like Flappy Bird or bejeweled or Solitaire? All non-conflict based games, they don't actually break any mold
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MICKIN-TOSH or MACKIN-TOSH?

?
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>>277288574
>goober grape

Makes me cringe everytime I see it.
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>>277288483
>>277288512
He is kinda a shithead.
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>>277288575
>v/ why are you so obsessed with this guy.
He's the person behind Anita. He enabled Anita to exist, and begin this whole thing.
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>>277288581
>As soon as you attack feminists as a whole group without giving individual attention,

No, they retaliated because of individual attention. Against one specific individual. They immediately attacked relentlessly with rhetoric and propaganda.
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>>277288574
>goober grape
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>>277288473
>more "experience-based" games, like Journey or something don't sell as well as the latewt CoD

>conceptual / aesthetic experiences don't sell as well as entertainment

Stop the presses! Sensation novels are selling more than Pope!
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>>277288581
idgaf, GG is for the best. About time somebody put their foot down and let these people know they're not welcome.
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>>277288591
>like Flappy Bird or bejeweled or Solitaire? All non-conflict based games
nigger what are you talking about? All of those games have conflict. It's you against a timer in flappy bird and bejeweled, and you against a deck in solitaire.
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>>277288731
But you are the ones not welcome, now mods, come and do your job and ban these shitposters.
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>>277288701

Games will never be art until Journeys sell more than COD!

That's why movies are art, look at how badly Transformers sell!
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>>277285179
Ths one isn't entirely wrong though.
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>>277288690
>>277288690
>>277288690
>>277288690
>>277288690
This, hot holy damn. GG focused on individuals.
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>>277288581
>As soon as you attack feminists as a whole group without giving individual attention

No one ever did that, they just claimed GG did, and people believed them for some weird reason.
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>>277288830
You seem a bit mad over nothing dude, care to explain why?
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>>277288669
1) In your opinion.
2) How? Because he doesn't meet some moral standard you have, that says a person encouraging others to do something should do that exact thing themselves?
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>>277288908
>John Walker

hhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>277288923
You shitlords are ruining the industry, now leave
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>>277288862
You've got that wrong its:

Games will never be art until they're as homogenous as clag!
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>>277288914
They control the media
They found 1984 and assumed it was a manual of how to run the world
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>>277287408
>>277287417
>>277287664

B-but it was cold war!
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>>277283669
This nigger is literally Jack Thompson 2.0.

Ignore him and he'll fuck off soon enough.
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>>277288908
>John Walker

I miss when RPS was good.
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>>277288979
How are people literally doing nothing ruining anything?
>Shitlord
Oh I see, you're from tumblr.
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Get out you GamerGate shitlords, or I'll dox you, and we both know who the media is gonna believe.
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>>277288982
>you can control units in an RTS
>That's promoting patriarchal masculinity
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>>277288982
Y'know, the guy might actually fit in around here.
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Why don't you accept the alternative, anons
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>>277288982
Hahahahahahaha
Oh god that is the richest one yet
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>>277286765
>hating american pycho
Shouldn't this dude be eating a bag of baby dicks right now?
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>>277288982

So does he want women to have control or no?
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>>277289050
>Soviet music
TOP KURWA
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>>277288982
>all of that sentence typed out with no errors and correct punctuation, showing control of grammar and the keyboard

what a fucking shitlord maxipatriarch
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>>277285226
>people STILL believe that we hate retards like Anita and McIntosh because we hate women
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>>277289065
The anon is joking, stop taking such obvious bait, it makes you look like an idiot.

>>277288982
The original.
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>>277289054
Oh yeah, how well did ignoring his schemes in the past go?
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>>277289054

But that's the problem, people actually take him seriously, unlike Thompson.

It's likely due to all the normalfags getting into vidya these days.
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>another Jonathan McIntosh thread
>another 250+ replies
>/v/ keeps falling for it
>/v/ will always keep falling for it
>he will never fade into obscurity because /v/ is too terrified of the boogeyman
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>>277289183
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Honestly I'm less mad about this tweet (at this point I just assume everything he says is bait) but the fact that people take him and his mouthpiece seriously is fucking ridiculous.
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>>277283928
relax. Lots of people have terrible opinions. Just because one asshole decides to make his terrible opinions public on Twitter doesn't mean anyone's going to take your video games away.
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This man is insane. Doesn't he realize that human existence relies on the struggle, relies on conflict to help us grow? In this universe, if we don't face conflict, if we don't challenge ourselves, if we don't overcome our struggles, we will never grow and become stronger, smarter, and better individuals for it. By removing obstacles and conflict from ones life, you weaken them and cause them stagnation.

Consider a child spoiled by their parents, never having to do chores, earn his/her keep or face the concept of rejection. When this person inevitably moves on to the real world, they will be woefully under prepared, weak, and more than likely set up for failure. A child who had to do chores, who had to earn their keep (allowance for example, or a job), who had to realize life does not revolve around them, would be ready to tackle life's challenges like a mature adult.

When it comes to SJWs, I agree with the fight to end institutional racism and sexism. But many, especially those vocal on the internet, take things to far. They seek to remove the obstacles from life that make us stronger as individuals. They are the spoiled children who don't realize that a certain amount of conflict and struggle is necessary for us to grow and mature and to ultimately survive in this world.
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>>277289050
But wasn't Tetris only released in the US in 1986? And wasn't the music in the US version made by Americans in the first place?
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>>277289163
>controlling and enabling hate speech with your "spelling" and "grammar" and "words"
Language is patriarchy.
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>>277288429
Protip: You can do both, and it's important to at least spend time with your family, that doesn't mean you can't also spend time online in between.
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>>277289210
>worrying about being an idiot on an anonymous image board
I could say Furries need to amend the constitution to gain their freedom if I fucking wanted to buddy.
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>>277289050
and yet how many of us have come out commie pinkos after playing tetris? if anything this only disproves their belief that 'games change our belief structures and we're not aware of it'
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>>277289302

He has a lot of power and influence with many publications, devs, and of course anita.
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>>277289294
misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy

wow.
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>>277289116
>I think we're in urgent need of games that aren't fun
Thanks, I haven't laughed this hard in a while
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>>277289302
>doesn't mean anyone's going to take your video games away.

Do you really need a reminder about GTA V and Hatred?
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>>277286832
>"people"

shitlord, I'm not binary.
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>>277289050
Is this guy retarded?
What's political about the country of origin of a certain piece of fucking music?
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>>277283669
I want to know how these people are able to live with themselves. Is it because they profit from it? Is it because there are strings being on their backs being tugged at by higher authority? How can somebody actually be like this? Just fucking how. This is absolutely unbelievable.
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>>277285275
He didn't have friends growing up, so that caused him to search for reasons why. The reasons he determined were that other people are all awful and he is the only one doing "the right thing", and he has now made it his mission in life to spread his "good deeds" around the internet.
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>>277289368
misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy photo misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy misoginy

Fixed that for you.
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>>277285643
this. its gotten beyond the point of trying to promote controversy. He and his puppet anita had their 15min.

>NOW ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS STOP FUCKING LINKING THEM AND TALKING ABOUT THEM
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>>277289302
All the remotely left wing media outlets jump on femfreq's dick. The guy isn't just yelling insane things to his twitter followers anymore.
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>>277287146
If you come first, it means you've gone over the speed limit. That's 6 points on your Mario Kart license, and you're banned from playing for a week.
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>>277289441

Developers?
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>>277289363
perceived power and influence. Just because he thinks he's important doesn't mean he can actually affect any change. Right now, SJW shit is a hot button issue, but in a year or so when people have moved on to a new threat, like... I don't know, springs, nothing this guy has said or done will matter in the slightest.
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>>277284710

To be fair, maybe he was semi-sane in 2012 and developed a brand new retarded opinion by 2014.
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>>277289312
its not a surprise that most of these SJWs are living off of either new media scams or endless university grants for non existent theses.
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>>277288674
No, /v/ started this shit. /v/ got her into the media spotlight, onto the Colbert show. You idiots can't just ignore these people.
>ignoring doesn't work
Because you haven't tried it yet. Proof being the several McIntosh treads on here daily, hourly even.
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>>277289510
If only...
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>>277289427
Fucking hell I dont even collect figurines and that image breaks my heart
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>>277289549
>/v/ got her into the media spotlight
Fuck you're retarded
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>>277289363
>anita
two people are not going to change the whole video game industry, and they certainly aren't going to go from house to house taking away all the evil video games.
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At leats only polygon is pure shit so far
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>>277289212
What schemes? Other than Anita who's completely unignored.
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>>277288893
If what he says is true, then it'd be a problem

But what he says is uninformed bullshit, capitalism does not ignore morals. However, it holds to a more enlightened truth of "if it's okay to love, then it's okay to hate" while still drawing the line at direct harm (hate is okay, harm is not) such as direct violence or discrimination.
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>>277288731
Psh, they're as stupid as SJWs.
Not like me, I shitpost all day on the internet and have no impact on anythig whatsoever.
That'll show them.
Heh.
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>>277289117
Already posted, and the one thing he's tweeted that isn't ENTIRELY insane.
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>>277289549
nope. These people have no problem inventing enemies to draw media attention, even if it involved lying

see>>277285070
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>>277289516
>Just because he thinks he's important doesn't mean he can actually affect any change
Australia, nigger. He and his ilk of SJWs and feminists got GTA 5 removed from some stores in Australia. They listened to these fanatics talk. We have to tell everyone we can that they're retards.
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So what games does he actually approve of? Gone Home?
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>>277289427
Some people just aren't happy unless they're offended by something. This is nothing new. There have always been people who seek out things they can feel offended by and then yell loudly about.
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>>277289610
There's a lot more than two fucking SJWs in the world. Try to keep up.
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>>277289294

He's kinda sounding like von Karma now

Only foolish fools can't realize their own foolishness
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>>277288312
>Thinking he's played any of the games

He's just working off the general themes of the games to spin into a negative message.
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>>277289656
the fuck does an economic system have to do with morality and "truth"?
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>>277289665
It's time to get the fuck out of here.
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>>277286349

Listen to this goy, goyim!
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>>277289640
Nah, they were probably scared to do that right at the peak of GG pulling sponsorships
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>>277289671
Many government departments in Australia have a lot of SJWs.
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>>277289610
Hi.
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Is it true an SJW got caught uploading CP to 4+4chan in an attempt to accuse GamerGate of defending child molesters?
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>>277289762
>Gamer dudes created "hugbox"
What?
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>>277289671
Australia has a ridiculous history with video games. A game like GTA is going to be a target of every group down there, not just SJWs. People were just looking for a reason to complain about violent video games, and these people just happened to be the loudest so people gravitated towards them.
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>>277287413

>nazi
>problem

???
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>>277289665
>b-but gaming journalism is fine and gamergate is completely wrong
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>>277289762
hugbox = echo chamber

The concept of an echo chamber has been around for a long fucking time.
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