>We already knew that things weren't so hot between Nintendo and its indie guy Dan Adelman, but now Adelman has confirmed that he has left the company after nine years.
>Adelman was banned from posting on Twitter by Nintendo last year, after he spoke ill of the company's region locking exploits. Now Adelman has told Kotaku that he left Nintendo last Friday.
>The industry veteran says that he was frustrated with Nintendo's acts to clamp down on actions that did not gel with its corporate message, such as the banning of his Twitter account.
>"I think people were kind of on pins and needles about anything untoward I might say," he noted. "And every once in a while, I'd give an answer that people didn't like, and some people would freak out, so they tried to scale things back. First they had me do interviews with someone from PR or marketing. Later they just decided that I shouldn't be in the press at all anymore."
>"I had been strongly encouraged to stay off of Twitter — or at least say only things that were clearly safe — so after the region-locking comment they just said I needed to stop completely," he added. "When people started complaining that I wasn't active on Twitter anymore, it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name. I thought that was about the worst idea I'd ever heard, so I left it as is and let the silence speak for itself."
The tweet(s) that caused NOA to revoke Adleman's Twitter account.
>get told about how unhealthy his tie with social media his
>first thing he does once "free" from nintendo is lashing on said social media, to get the approval of his followers.
Can't really clap for that, he put that shit over hiself. Get ready for the next phil fish project incoming.
His job was to get indie games on Nintendo platforms, similar to Shahid Ahmad for Sony, or Chris Charla for Microsoft.
I'm not saying he did. Just about everyone knows that Nintendo is a very anal company when it comes to protecting its image. The guy should have just been more careful about what he said.
Seeing all the good indie game Nintendo didn't have I'm quite happy he's leaving. I wouldn't be surprise half of his revelations are bullshit he made to hype his own departure and become a "martyr" to juice some people from their money later with a kickstarter or something.
>His job was to get indie games on Nintendo platforms
Fucking lel. Good. Hope no more of this shovelware is on the eShop anymore.
Look at this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWdF3b2pV9g
Even the casuals say it's shit. Thanks, Dan!!
>employed by nintendo to promote indie games on their platforms
>starts spouting his personal opinions on twitch to the public which happen to be against his employers policies
>/v/ is surprised
this is why people on /v/ will NEVER succeed in business, or hey, even in life.
>People bash Nintendo for wanting to keep employees from saying stupid shit that reflects on their company
>But make fun of Microsoft for what happened with Adam Orth
>can barely talk to indies in an open environment,
That's totally a reason why 3ds/wiiu got few indies - because they forbid him to use twitter.
And God help us all if he actually used email or phone calls.
The guy didn't even get fired. He was just banned using twitter since he showed many times he can't act professionaly enough on it. After a year he decided himselft to pack his bags and go indie.
Even more he wont even get a pr job for any company anymore, no company likes when their employes bitch on official twitter channel or any social media about them.
I hope he has some other qualifications or he will have to do minimum wage jobs
I hope the indie bubble bursts sometime, Sony is trying to get away with letting indie devs take over the Vita with as many shitty, poorly made budget games as possible so they can focus on porting Vita games to PS4.
I don't want the 3DS to suffer the same fate.
But what he said was helping him do his job.
To interact with indies you need a person, they need to know who you are.
Nobody knew who he was, so indies were not really seeing him as approachable.
Katsuhiro Harada (Tekken guy) said in some interview Japanese companies really don't like, or explicitly disallow, "known" employees using Twitter. He said he gets away with it because he started so early.
He didn't even talk shit about nintendo. He said he can relate to people who find the region lock inconvenient. Which it is.
Do you guys want honesty or do you want lies? Nothing shits me more than dipshit marketing guys who do nothing but lie.
>employee is unable to express a lighthearted opinion about the company without getting ostracized and silenced by incompetent management and PR
>/v/ defends Nintendo for having such godawful corporate practices
Oh wait, I forgot, I'm on Nintendogaf. Where Iwata is God, and Nintendo can do no wrong.
>because they forbid him to use twitter.
They didn't let him engage with indies on a personal level much at all.
There are articles talking about the problem going back months.
Twitter is where a lot of indies operate, its where some announce their games or look for partners.
Its one big networking event that never ends for them.For example the easiest way to get ahold of devolver digital if you are a noteworthy indie, and often even if you are not is their twitter.
>indie devolper fired from Nintendo
looks like Nintendo finally took out the trash
Looks bad on Nintendo. That this guy left and cited Nintendo douchery as his reason. Region Lock should not be on a system in this day and age. Nintendo are the jews off the video game industry.
>games that I like because they remind me of my childhood are games, and we should only talk about them :)
>games that I don't like aren't games and we shouldn't talk about them because they make me feel uncomfortable :(
twitter is nothing near being an efficient platform for anything. It's a mess, you can't follow complex conversation and you can't post medias, they are using it for eth same reason they make shitty sprite game : the belief that using shit ironically makes it good.
it's true though, in the past 5 years teh concept of indie game has been fused with "shovelware budget". They make the game look cheap on purpose to fit the self definition of "indie", it's just pathetic at this point, worse than the American "indie" cape comic scene who works on the same logic.
>, you can't follow complex conversation
Which isn't what it is really used for anyway.
You also cannot use it to file your tax return, but thats about as relevant.
>you can't post medias
You mean like videos and such? No, there is youtube for that which you can link with twitter, no single site offers everything but you can connect sites that fill in the black here.
>they are using it for eth same reason they make shitty sprite game : the belief that using shit ironically makes it good.
But thats not why these people tend to choose sprite art, nor is twitter used ironically.
For that they would have to agree with you, and they way they use it shows they don't.
The fact it is effective shows that you're incorrect in that assessment.
He's going anecdotal for the sake of controversy. When he say "suggested" he literally means "suggested" as in "some nigga told that and got shut down instantly but he still asked it".
Why say it at all? It's obvious that if you say something "against" the company that you work on you'll be punished in some way, you don't need to lie, just don't say anything, but he's a faggot and wants attention so he can't stay quiet even if it's for his job.
It's standard corporate practices - it douchey, but nintendo isn't being any more douchey than any other corporation.
the key point is probably his agreeing with someone whose name is 'Endregionlock'
My friend who works in PR for a a restaurant chain for example is not advised to make any reference to diseases or poor hygiene practices in any of his written online statements because they don't want their official channel to show up in search results for such subjects. And that's just one of the many, many inane things he has to worry about before making a single goddamn tweet.
Boo hoo. A faggot who works for a company and speaks badly about the company publicly is told he can't speak on the company's behalf anymore.
What a fucking surprise. So unreasonable.
This right here is called entitlement. That faggot didn't have the unabashed right to publicly speak badly of the corporation he worked for.
>But you said it was good for being your public discussion place.
Given how terrible this is written I think you honestly don't understand.
Not all conversations are complex, no start of a conversation is. The start is the most important part, getting the foot in the door so to speak, it needs to be easy and casual.
Like a networking event, sure, more serious talks might continue elsewhere but you still go to the event and you still start many things there.
Our friend Ebola will get Nintendo of America soon.
>It's standard corporate practices
Not for the other indie reps.
They get given freedom on their twitter.
> but nintendo isn't being any more douchey than any other corporation.
That isn't how most indies see it, and that is why nintendo's actions were entirely counterproductive.
This seems like something a petulant child would do lashing out against their parent and not some professional employee who worked at their job for years and had respect enough not to burn bridges or look unprofessional.
Of course it's standard practice. What isn't standard practice is having a legion of fandrones defend it.
This is the sort of thing that everyone who isn't corporate should be against.
Now this is shillposting
>Work at store
>anon wants to buy a X
>Employee tells anon that they shouldnt buy X because X is shit
>anon doesnt buy X so company loses profit
Sure Nintendo is shit when it comes to region locking and shit but when you work for them you dont go flaunting your opinions like an autist
>Not all conversations are complex, no start of a conversation is.
So the point stand and you agree, it's a shitty platform if you are an indie group that wants to share ideas with potential fans and investors.
Given they hired him to interact with people exactly as he was doing, to the degree they wanted to put a fake PR version of him in there yeah it is.
This is like hiring a new sports player and demanding they never play the game in public.
>Of course it's standard practice. What isn't standard practice is having a legion of fandrones defend it.
But starting to shitpost over things that's, by your own words, nothing out of the ordinary is perfectly normal?
/v/ - double standards
I like how your greentext scenario is entirely fabircated and isn't analogous to what actually happened. Since you know, he didn't actually tell anyone not to buy Nintendo products
He still can't say that dipshit. If someone got a cavity from eating Mc'Flurries or whatever the hell, a Mc'Donalds worker can't tweet "I know your pain there's too much sugar in them I never have them" without getting into trouble.
Meanwhile on the NOA twitter.
Nintendo of America is full of shit and everyone knows this.
>guy ciritcises nintendo over jewish business practices
>side with nintendo
this place is fucking infested with nintendo manchildren
yes anon. If you're working for a company, specially as a PR guy, you do not want to associate any sort of bad image with them at all.
Not saying it isn't stupid, but it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone
>Microsoft practically did the same thing
>/v/ laughs at the guy that got fired
>Literally every company on Earth with any common sense cracks down on employees doing stupid shit on social media
>Nintendo does it
>they're somehow in the wrong
never change /v/
>voice shit over their own system
You think saying you were not a fan of region locking some 20 years ago is talking shit?
But the fact you are asking this says something to me.
Do you even know who you're asking about?
who gives a shit about your strawman taxe, you told it's a good platform for advertising their indie projects, and it's not by any means you even agreed with that, that you can't neither have conversation nor post media on it. So what exactly does it offer to them except the gratification of "being on twitter" that is about the same as your grandma feeling young for "using facebook"?
ITT posts, faggots who have never held any kind of authoritative position where their decisions actually mattered.
This is standard corporate practice in any industry. The guy is paid to do his job. He decided that publicly shitting on Nintendo as a corporate representative was a good idea and he got rekt for it.
They were actually nicer than most corporations because most corporations would have just fired his dumbass.
Any time you work for someone, things you say and do reflect on the company. Just because you faggots are too used to saying whatever the fuck you want on 4chan, doesn't mean that's how the real world has ever worked or ever will work.
Sorry you fedora tipping faggots don't understand what it means to uphold a public image.
>He decided that publicly shitting on Nintendo
That's not a double standard at all. Just because it's a standard corporate practice doesn't mean I don't have the right to bitch about it. Corporations, especially Japanese corporations, do a lot of morally reprehensible things. It's our duty as consumers to call out corporations when they pull bullshit like this.
You're no better than an unpaid shill if you defend this.
>who gives a shit about your strawman taxe,
That is exactly my point.
>you told it's a good platform for advertising their indie projects,
No I didnt.
Stop making up what I said.
>that you can't neither have conversation nor post media on it.
You can do both of those things.
>Microsoft practically did the same thing
Microsoft did nothing like this, the employee was being a general douchebag and talking shit on people with bad internet while defending the xbone like mad
this was just a casual comment, they're nothing alike you retard
>Common corporate practice
>Everyone in the thread says it's douchey but nothing new
It makes me happy to know that people not over reacting upsets you.
Do you really not understand twitter?
> you can't neither have conversation nor post media on it.
You can't neither? Fuck you sould old, being so fucking ignorant isn't helping.
Yes because defending always online DRM and arguing everyone should have 24/7 internet to play games is the exact same thing as sympathising with someone who's against region lock. Totally the same.
Stay retarded anon.
Its less about him personally as much as its about how this scenario reflects on Nintendo as a company. Is it unique to Nintendo? Probably not, but just saying "Oh but EVERY company does it" does not make it necessarily acceptable. Fanboys like to believe Nintendo is some goody-two-shoes when it comes to their attitude but its events like this that remind us all theyre just as much of a cunt as anyone else.
>His job was to get indie games on Nintendo platforms
>only Few good indie titles get in
WOW, ITs fucking nothing.
Hes basically like Reggie, except Reggie is a NoA president who actuallys gets all the big named games localized. Pretty sure Nintendo will replace him with someone who is better.
yes anon. Saying something negative about the company you work for is grounds for being let go as a PR guy. Guy was lucky he just got a twitter restriction.
This is NoA by the way. Those two don't work there
Not as long as nobody knows you are censoring them.
Most contracts even include that kind of stuff, PR and people who out themselves as company representatives are'nt allowed to criticise the company, no matter what they thing.
Holy shit this is hilarious. NeoFAGs need to fuck off.
Adam Orth did stupid shit on Twitter, this Nintendo guy did stupid shit on Twitter. Nintendo is almost Disney-tier when it comes to shit like this, the guy should have known that shit since he was employed there. Even saying something as innocuous as >>256325447 what that anon said can get you reprimanded on a job. When you speak on social media, especially in a PR position, YOU represent the company. He was saying shit that went against what Nintendo's policies and got rightfully canned for it. I'm not defending region locking, but I'm also not going to be retarded and sit here trying to defend an idiot that went against basic protocol.
>except Reggie is a NoA president who actuallys gets all the big named games localized
>and got rightfully canned for it.
Except he didn't get canned.
And by shutting him up, nintendo closed themselves off to indies in a big way, they became seen as unhelpful and unapproachable.
>I think actively keeping employees from saying what they want about your company is a worse image than letting your employee criticize you openly.
You do realize almost every company will fire people for criticizing them publicly?
I understand its a rule-- its been said constantly in this thread.
Its just a shitty rule, is all.
Especially when this happens and people find out about it anyway, now everyone looks like shit.
>Reggie is a NoA president who actuallys gets all the big named games localized
You're retarded, the "stupid shit" are on almost completely different levels
One is repeatedly talking shit on consumers, the other is empathizing with one in a casual conversation
How delusional can you get?
>Guy a: region lock is bad it should be ended
>PR:yeah i understand you and you are right.
If he agrees with someone bitching about reegion lock it also implies that he is also bitching about it and leads to him cirticising his own companies policies
> You Nintenniggers will defend Iwata and Miyamoto to the grave.
Not only is this Nintendo of America we're speaking about, I'm sure those two don't have a hand in every decision ever made in the company. There are thousands of decisionmakers. I'm pretty sure Iwata and Miyamoto don't even know who the guy is.
Not that I really give a fuck, just stop pretending a multi million dollar company company is run by two people.
>He decided that publicly shitting on Nintendo as a corporate representative was a good idea
>Droning so hard that takes a comment out of proportion
Oh look someone pretending to know about authority without actual evidence of he himself being on an authoritative position. Well at least you're not going to use a buzzword in your argument.
Oh there it is the mark of someone who is every word he is complaining about.
The comment was nothing but the truth, trying to censor it by not letting the guy communicate to the public again was a dumb move and will bite them in the ass now that the guy is allowed to speak. I am sure if you worked with nintendo your nose would be brown and you would speak wonders of region lock but too bad in the "real wold" you're just another drone.
>Its just a shitty rule, is all.
The reason it exists is so employers don't publicly humiliate and damage the company they work for.
It might have been used to striktly in this case, but he wasn't even let go, just told not to use twitter.
Yes, I realize this, that's why I didn't specifically target Nintendo with that statement. I don't think its a good policy, and every other company doing it is guilty as well.
You flame in every thread even remotely related to consoles about how Nintendo is shit and LE SONY ALWAYS WINS XD, shill shitty movies, and piss all over video games that aren't on the Playstation.
I talk about video games.
I can tell who is more apt to be on the board about video games very clearly.
>B-but you're just a Nintendrone!
>S-sony always wins!
You obviously haven't had a proper job yet.
Even small companies have a social media policy.
The guy signed it when he started, or when the policy was adopted, if he was there before it started, and refused to sign it, he'd be out of a job.
It's petty, but it stops the xbox "deal with it" shitstorm from happening.
Saying something as innocent as "I agree with you about region locking" to a guy whose handle is Endregionlocking is "stupid shit" in Nintendo's eyes. Read the entire post before spouting how delusional someone is.
INDIE LOCALIZE GUY IS NEOGAF SCUM
INDIE LOCALIZE GUY IS NEOGAF SCUM
INDIE LOCALIZE GUY IS NEOGAF SCUM
WARNING! THIS THREAD HAS GONE MAXIMUM BAIT!
WARNING! THIS THREAD HAS GONE MAXIMUM BAIT!
Do you not know what a NDA is?
>MUH SOCIAL MEDIA
>Oh no, I can't talk shit about someone who pays me!
What a fucking retard. If he REALLY wanted to stand up against Nintendo he should have left day 1.
What a fucking goon.
>Its just a shitty rule, is all. Especially when this happens and people find out about it anyway, now everyone looks like shit.
Even if it wasn't a rule it wouldn't be ideal. Even good companies that would alllow tweets like his would look like total crap because everytime something negative happens their employees would be criticizing them.
Whereas scummy companies would keep their employees silent and would appear better.
>Can your employers seriously control your twitter?
Have you never worked in a big company? Those fuckers have their eyes on your Twitter and Facebook, they probably came to an agreement to close his Twitter account before firing him, at least until now that he HAS been fired.
>Can your employers seriously control your twitter?
yes, if its the profile linking it to you. they are also allowed to check your facebook and other blogs to be sure you aren't shitting on them in their back too.On a legal point of view, it's really legal and he could have faced way more than being fired if he insisted and disobeyed.
Perfectly legal. They didn't fire him for it but if they did, he probably had a contract that said you can be fired for saying stuff against the company. Wouldn't be the first time or last that this happens
lots of people butthurt by this post but this is common practice. its sort of like going and adding your boss on facebook and talking shit about him and suddenly being buttmad that you got fired
I'm aware of what that is. A contract to stop someone from releasing confidential information to another party. But does valid criticism of a company's practices really count as "confidential?" I don't think anyone learned what region locking was through that guy's tweets.
Whether or not it's legal is not the question I guess, since it's happened before. I still think it's bullshit. Nothing I or anyone can do about it though.
You'd have to wait for something truly egregious though to voice your complaints, because otherwise it just looks like standard whining.I mean the gaming community already has the reputation bitching loudly but buying it anyway, so it's not like this really accomplishes anything.
I understand the negativity bit, I really do; companies want their employees to keep the company looking good.
But I don't like lies. If the people you are paying have to lie about you publicly to keep your image then I think something is wrong.
I'm probably being naive but I don't really care, I think I'm within my rights to not like being lied to.
>Whether or not it's legal is not the question I guess, since it's happened before. I still think it's bullshit. Nothing I or anyone can do about it though.
If it didn't exist, employees would do much worse things. It might have been a little strikt, but it was only not allowing him to use twitter.
>He can't even link to other boards!
You have to be fucking kidding me. This is how bad the video game industry has gotten - empathizing with fans is now unacceptable and grounds for termination.
I thought Ninty was actually one of the cooler companies too.
>I saw my role as essentially having two parts. On the one hand, I was working for Nintendo inside the indie development community. On the other, I was working for the indie community inside Nintendo. So yeah, I absolutely did try to fight internally to change whatever I could. There were a ton of policies that have been updated and improved. I already mentioned about that office requirement. It was crazy. There were people whose job it was to look up addresses in Google maps to see if the business address was a home or an office building. And if it looked a little residential, they'd ask for photos. There would be e-mail threads with literally a few dozen back and forth exchanges about whether the couch in someone's office was really used for business purposes or did someone really live there? That policy, thankfully, is gone.
Honestly more companies should just blanket ban the vidya industry from posting stupid shit on Twitter.
I'm tired of the manchildren making my games being immature fuckwads and making the industry look bad.
If you're in the industry, and if you're reading this, don't shitpost on a twitter account linked to your identity.
Shitpost on a different twitter account, or on fucking 4chan, or reddit, or wherever.
Just don't fucking do it with your real god damn name. You look like a fucking toolbag.
I hope Phil Fish never has a job again.
>all these dumb assniggers itt
why is /v/ so fucking dumb?
>hurr durr they fired a brotha 4 a tweet! what the fuck man
This negro was obviously not fired for a fucking tweet, that shit is just an excuse to get rid of him.
So there is a lot of jewish shitposting regarding videogame companies
But who IS the true mastermind behind the media control?
Guys, guys. Shut the fuck up for just a second.
Why do we care?
So what if a company tells an employee to stop using Twitter? So what if some asshat who didn't do anything wrong got fired?
It wasn't us.
Now go play video games, you crazy kids.
>the people who defend Nintendo (not in this case here because that was just a misunderstanding) are maximum drones
>the people who hate them are normalfag NEOGAFfags who want 4chan to be Facebook 2.0
Can't we kill both sides?
>That policy, thankfully, is gone.
Not especially a good thing, most indie "projects" are scams so having an actual physical location when you claim to be on a big project seems like the minimum requirement to be respected. Indie games are still made by companies, they should be accountable just like any other companies, if only to make the possible contracts legal.
You don't need to agree with every decision your employers makes but you don't need to talk about this too, you can just stay out of the topic.
The reason is simple, journalists, they can use shit like that to make click bait articles and damage the company's name. If he can't think for a second about it he can't have freedom to speak in name of the company.
>it douchey, but nintendo isn't being any more douchey than any other corporation.
Dear lord, when EA/Sony/MS does this /v/ is up in arms like the retards they are but if its done by its precious Nintendo, it is industry standard.
Fact of the matter is, a) guy on Nintendo made a post that was against Region locking in a indirect way. b) Nintendo overreacted towards that proclaim and now are firing said employed.
Nintendo are being dicks, that is the end of it.
haha what the fuck
is nintendo autistic?
you seem to misunderstand
there is no nintendo defense force on /v/, there never has been. neither has there been an xbox defense force.
there is the valve df and sony df and the sony df is responsible for about 95% of shitposting threads and false flags
neogaf is our enemy
Stuff like that snowballs faster than you could imagine. Companies are normally better off killing it before it even starts.
Look at the Assasins Creed lack of female protagonist thing. It started with one small article and then grew into a fucking PR nightmare.
It's like people thought nintendo was their best friend and they're so surprised that they're actually a corporation that only cares about your wallet and has horrible policies like every other corporation. Protip, Reggie is a marketer, not your bro.
Of course not, and there are a fuckton of indie games that don't have pixelart or "flash tweens", you are a moron.
Sure the indie scene releases more shovelware than the big teams do, simply because there are more people working on said showelware. Most of it is free as well.
"indie games are terrible because pixel art" is a fucking retarded statement. So my original point stands: You are a retard.
I think it has to do with the fact that you aren't allow to admit and issue that the company doesn't publicly admits. For example the fact that Apple use to say that "There are no Viruses for macs" and when you got one on your MAC customer support was explicitly told not to recognize any issues related with a Virus on any MAC.
He admitting or even understanding the issue that a customer has against region locking, is admitting and issue that NCL hasn't admitted in any way or form.
I only read one actually well written review of this game, and that was in a german nintendo magazine. They even had a small section calling the controversy bullshit. The reviewer even asked his sjw collegues when they turned into stupid americans.
People start their legitimate businesses out of their homes all the time. Apple started out in a fucking garage.
Japanese corporations are notorious for being anal about stupid shit like that.
>and now are firing said employed.
Not especially linked to the former event though. He even said he left, so 50% he jsut got a job in a startup from one of his twitter "friend".
I expect a kickstarter using his name soon.
>neither has there been an xbox defense force
>late 7th gen
>ps3 has outsold the 360 by millions of units
>has like 200 more exclusives
>PS3 NO GAMEZ LELELELE threads up on /v/ 24/7
>Nintendo lost somebody great
Does fucking NOBODY remember these shitty Indie Sizzle Reels from every E3? They're easily the worst part of EVERY Nintendo presentation and Dan's departure is a GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE.
No, here it was obviously easier to damage control if they just let him tweet that
Again, like I mentioned before, if journalists would make a story about that they would have to post the actual tweet and many would likely be inclined to say that it was just a minor comment
Actually censoring someone gives journalists the proof they want
The right thing to do would be to cut him off if he was actually talking shit on nintendo, then people could look at that and say "well he was talking shit on nintendo so no wonder"
but here it makes no sense
>talk shit on internet
>forget that talking shit about people you know internet will have consequences
>throw a tantrum on shitaku how life in unfair
Twatting complains is not how you solve your workplace issues. Congrats on losing your job you moron.
I love these /pol/ & /x/ hybrid images
Real talk, Zionist Jews are an Illuminati pawn used to deflect attention from the big players
Your exemple is literally 50 years old. You don't start a business in a garage anymore, it's mostly illegal at this point considering all the legal authorisations needed to enter the market at all.
None of them are - any corporation massive enough to go multinational would have done egregious things pretty regularly - whether it's gouging customers or using child miners in africa or poor treatment of employees. And honestly, they kind of have to choose between some form of those acts in order to turn a profit. In the case of some companies like Apple, it's all three.
They get to look like the good guy and the word of mouth spreads. I didn't say it was effective. If nintendo did things that were effective they wouldn't be in the position they are now, would they?
Time to lay down some truth.
All of the big vidya execs on twitter are just PR guys pretending to be them. They follow specific guidelines and plan out jokes etc.
If you insist on running your own company twitter you better be damn careful what you write because you have literally just taken on the responsibilities of a paid PR guy.
>If nintendo did things that were effective they wouldn't be in the position they are now, would they?
You mean the most succesful video games company for multiple decades straight?
If nintendo was literally using fresh puppy souls for the newest nintendogs, AND YOU WORK FOR NINTENDO, you can't go on twitter and say shit. You could say "Gee I sure luv killing puppies all day for Reggie #endlessslaughter" but you can't say "The eggs in the nintendo cafeteria are dry :(" That's how business works. If you don't work for the you can say whatever the hell you want but if an employee is undermining the company with complaints about what they do then they should be fired then and there.
This Dan guy is an idiot who should have known this
>Getting yourself fired over not being allowed to post on fucking TWITTER
Absolutely fucking retarded. I am just upset that I'm going to have to be supporting his activist ass through government safety net programs because he decided he needed 'the right' to post on social media.
You know what's funny?
When it was revealed that FF Type 0 wouldn't be coming out on the Vita but only on the Next Gen consoles (I know all of you remember the fiasco), that Arab dude who works in a similar position but for Sony wrote multiple tweets stating his disappointment such as "The dream is dead" and "You can't do this to us Square".
Did Sony fire him? Fuck no.
This just proves that Nintendo is much more sinister than they let on.
Heck, when Sony and M$ have better employee relations than Nintendo, you know this isn't the Ninty we grew up with.
Iwata needs to get the boot.
"Suggesting" that a a PR person take over your twitter because you are a potty mouth? Get the fuck out.
What happened to Nintendo, man?
Nah, the Rothschild are an illuminati family with close ties to the royal family
Israel is nothing more than a pawn, there's a reason they live in Europe, they're gonna false flag Israel in order to kickstart revelations
You might be right about the aliens though, I assumed everyone was clever enough to realise the aliens are a result of brainwashing
>Come into your room at night
>Held down on a table
Nintendo has lost money overall for a few years straight. They're nowhere near sony levels but they're not doing well either. They have time to turn it around. Even Miyamoto said that the numbers have never been as bad as they currently are or something to that effect.
>it's mostly illegal at this point considering all the legal authorisations needed to enter the market at all.
Please don't make shit up when you obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>Tons of big companies have policies like that, it's just you don't hear about them because they fire unprofessional shitbags like this guy
People in this thread don't get that this kind of stuff is exactly why companies are so anal about their social media policies.
People often don't get why stuff is done the way it is and start mocking companies that are doing nothing wrong, damaging their reputation.
>nintendokiddies are defending this
They are beyond brainwashed.
Nintendo sure is a fun and quirky company, huh guys? Especially when they remove someone who sympathies with fans over an anti-consumer policy and try to get a PR person to post in their name.
Of course. Reggie totally plays dragon quest and uses memes so they must love us. Seriously I enjoy their games and my wii u but I have zero loyalty to the people that work there, or even to the company itself. I won't buy a product that I know I wouldn't enjoy.
Nintendo are jews, wow sure is news.
News flash, all corporations are jews, that's how they operate.
Brand loyalism is the dumbest shit ever and every single one of you fucks loyal to a brand and not particular product based on it's quality are massive retards. You also shouldn't suck corporation's dick if you love their product, and certainly shouldn't blindly buy their other products without proper research.
>go into the NeoGAF thread
Look at all this Nintenshilling. Not even Sony central can be rid of the plague that is Nintendrones. They actually like "Reggie memes"?
Man, things just haven't been the same since Nintendo got decimated at E3 by Sony and Microsoft.
And yes, they got decimated:
There you go. Facts all on the table.
Objectively, Sony had the most games AND most exclusives out of any company.
Nintendo had 3 times less games than any other company.
Objectively, Sony "won" E3. Objectively, Nintendo "lost" E3.
This is comete bullshit but not different than any other large company ever.
You say bad things about your employer on social media, bad things happen. Welcome to having a job.
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Read the interview. The guy mentions that there are people at Nintendo whose entire job is look at Indie conpanies addresses on google maps to find out of they are residential or commercial addresses.
I suppose Nintendo can do that kind of thing if it wants.
The real problem here isn't telling guys that essentially do marketing/relations work for you what to say. It's that region locking is anti-consumer garbage and shouldn't need to be sympathized with to begin with.
>SONY PR putting all the blame on a separate company
>N PR guy shitting on his own company
Also 99% of the guys on Sony twitter are PR guys pretending to be them. It's the nature of things.
Come at me faggots
I'll open my third eye and korosu a baka
Looks like another example of "Nintendo can do no wrong."
>other company bans someone from using twitter due to personal opinion
>the company is evil and should be blacklisted, except if it's Nintendo
>region locking is bad!
>but when Nintendo does it, they're doin it for the customer
>movie games with zero gameplay are bad!
>but when Nintendo does it, it's the best thing ever!
Shouldn't you be here nigger?
Is this guy even important at all for nintendo? Indie is hardly a main selling point for consoles.
Anyway, I agree that Nintendo was way too asshurt over that innocent comment, I know they need to protect theyr image now but fuck, they're LITERALLY the joke of the industry after the Wii U fiasco, they're just fucking him over nothing.
Made Nintendo more profit than the entire Prime Trilogy combined, and is now recognized as more canon than any other Metroid.
>>other company bans someone from using twitter due to personal opinion
>>the company is evil and should be blacklisted, except if it's Nintendo
Your bear macro should be blue and wear a fedora, for you are now on Preston level of strawmaning.
now recognized as more canon than any other Metroid.
So why do they do not talk about it and when they did talk about metroid they said they wanted to do another metroid prime or one like the classical 2D metroid? Go fuck yourself motherfaggot
>"I don't really care"
And yet when any other company does it, you're sure to attack them like they were Satan if he was a pedophile. That sure doesn't seem like you don't care.
It's the CO called Grit.
it's a business practice meant to keep a product from competing with itself on the international market, is it scummy? yep, but it's meant to maximize profits
also this guy said something minute, and he left nintendo of his own free will instead of trying to negotiate with them about getting his account back
meanwhile the guy from microsoft was actively shitting on people with the "always online isn't a big deal" thing and was FIRED BY MICROSOFT after backlash
you can see why people may be a bit more apathetic towards a guy who left on his own free will because he lost his twitter versus a loud retard who was fired by the company he works for so they could save face
>other m was more expensive to make than the prime games
>prime games sold more altogether
>somehow made less profit
yeah sure buddy
It was a PS2 game ported to the Wii. That didn't cost a penny.
So its canon because it fucks with everything else? Did you hit your head or something?
> made more profit than the entire Prime trilogy
But that's wrong, it's the 4th worst selling Metroid, and didn't even sell half as much as Prime 1.
But who am I kidding, you're just gonna deflect and shit "FUCKING NINTENYEAROLDS!" instead of making any logical argument.
>somehow working alone and being your boss is not starting a business
ok kid, too much internet for you today. I'm literally my own company, and subject to the same laws as your local AAA devs. I'm just the smallest possible version of it.
Yes, it is canon. Nintendo never retconned it, and Smash Brothers further supports it.
I would've said gamecube quality, but gamecube games looked nice at least. Other M didn't even have that luxury.
You retarded or something Nintendo has been posting profits since they been created. Even the failure virtual boy was profitable. They just recently start posting losses with the wiiu. You think the Wii u is going to make them lose all that money they stacked up for years? They aren't even in the fucking red.
Let's study his list of accomplishments
>Helped implement the worse online stores of any company
>Was terrible at securing games throughout the wii's life and was just starting to get stuff now.
>Despite apparently pro-consumer ideas didn't help the cause at all
such a lose
You are still exploring and collecting stuff while the character talk, and actually the conversations are really well done and contextual, so immersion is even better.
I'd rather have this than being literally interrupted by cutscenes with long winded text or handholding every 20 minutes in modern Zelda games. It's not like the story isn't shit or the characters have anything interesting to say anyway in Zelda.
Just like people at sony magazine reviews say DmC was the perfect game right? When it was a abomination, c'mon dude
So you're just a shitty troll that uses a fighting game as proof of canon
That would be Reggie. From the 3ds's release he said he wasn't interested in "garage developers". This guy was fighting an uphill battle from the start.
It's just ACfag, who takes every opportunity to shitpost and samefag about Other M and/or Nintendo.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna hide the thread before I start a never ending argument with a mentally retarded manchild. I suggest you do the same.
Then how about this in Smash Brothers?
If they didn't support Other M, they'd stop using the Zero Suit.
>Just like people at sony magazine reviews say DmC was the perfect game right?
Didn't you call for the people at Sony to be murdered for that article? Why is it okay for Nintendo to do it now?
Because the Zero Suit didn't exist before right?
With a company like Nintendo it's a miracle he was allowed to do anything at all. People like imagine Nintendo is some perfect, open minded company but it really isn't. Some of their policies and practices are so outdated and retarded.
But look at the actual article you're posting. He says they do want indies, but not the level of shit that iOS is getting.
>"I would separate out the true independent developer vs. the hobbyist," says Fils-Aime. "We are absolutely reaching out to the independent developer."
>"Where we've drawn the line is we are not looking to do business today with the garage developer. In our view, that’s not a business we want to pursue."
>"When we talk about the value of software, it could be a great $1 piece of content or a $50 piece of content," he says. "The point is: Does it maintain its value over time or is it such disposable content that the value quickly goes to zero? … We want consumers to see value in the software, whatever that appropriate value is. And we want to see that value maintained over time."
Nigger where the fuck is anyone saying its cool for nintendo to do it? Why do you think Sakamoto is the most hated person on nintendo by the fans? Why do you think people call for bloody murder any time he is mentioned in a metroid thread?
Samus in her Zero Suit and/or Bikini should've never been part of the series in the first place. People who like it are supporting cancerous movie games whose sole focus is the Zero Suit.
Fanservice is for losers who hate gameplay.
Your retarded by the time metroid prime trilogy came out everyone had Bought or played Metroid prime 1,2, and play Metroid prime 3. Hell the Wii is backwards compatible with GameCube so it was even a less of a reason to buy the trilogy.
What pisses me of the most is the Nintendogs
Not Nintendo fans. NINTENDOGS.
>We want consumers to see value in the software, whatever that appropriate value is. And we want to see that value maintained over time."
>THE SAME MAN THAT PRAISED METROID: OTHER M
That's a laugh riot.
Also trilogy was a limited edition. An actual Limited edition, a Limited amount copies of it were produced.
They were producing standalone Prime 3 even after they produced Trilogy.
>Why do you think Sakamoto is the most hated person on nintendo by the fans?
I'll take "things that never happened" for 500 Alex.
Other M was allowed to be terrible because they wanted to make it nothing but fanservice. Sakamoto wanted to show off his waifu in every way possible, which is why he gutted the gameplay so we could see her out of her power suit in every cutscene.
Face it nerds, Nintendo is an evil corporation, they are not your childhood friend.
Gaben, on the other hand, is your bro for life. Have you installed Steam today?
Hell, even if I worked at McDonalds I couldn't agree with customers who criticized not being able to get breakfast after a certain time while wearing the uniform/representing the company. This just solidifies the majority of /v/ has never worked or had to represent anything at all.
Reggie was involved in both of those articles, was he not? Why would this man say "we value games that increase in value over time"? And then immediately afterward, he praises Other m?
>cry more bitch nigga
Enjoy your Nintendo releases, friend! Since that's the only thing you'll get :^)
Why are Other M fags the worst part of metroid, any thread that it gets mentioned goes downhill fast, jesus christ
Here's the thing: YOU NEVER DO THIS WITH OTHER COMPANIES. Nintendo is the only one who ever gets this defense.
If Sony ever fired someone for badmouthing their company, there would be hundreds of threads on the front page calling for Kaz Hirai's head on a pike. STOP BEING A HYPOCRITE.
Again, maybe, but what the fuck does that have anything to do with Other M's canonity
Why does Sakamoto wanting to show off his waifu make Other M more or less canon than the other Metroid games
The reality is that it's a shit thing to do, Nintendo or not. Sorry we're not discussing Walmart's twitter policy on /v/, sorry we're sticking to something relevant to videogames on /v/ of all places. Corporate behavior has always been shit and people are just picking apart another example of it. People will exaggerate in their attack and defense of such a thing and people are easily okay with corporate shittery as long as they can defend Nintendo, it works both ways because this is a board of obsessive idiots who rather scream than make sense of things.
>See this Thread
I bet Nintendrones will actually defend this.
>They actually do
Jesus fucking christ. This is like some sort of Parody by now.
Sony fired a shitload of people these past few years. Nobody gives a fuck.
A guy who brought us The Letter and Connect 4 on the eShop decided to leave Nintendo and it's NINTENDOOMED
Indeed, I'm incrreadibly sad that we will be getting games, hows is that No Man sky exclusive looking? Oh right, I will also be able to get that on pc without having to waste moneyon a useless console
>Why does Sakamoto wanting to show off his waifu make Other M more or less canon than the other Metroid games
In every other Metroid, Samus is actually allowed to fight monsters without needing authorization. That doesn't fit Sakky's vision of a submissive waifu. So they get thrown out the window.
Good for him. Now he will be able to work for a company that is not run by slit-eyed nazi jews.
What a shit company full of tools and dick sucking yes men, just like its entire fanbase.
They don't have Gundam Musou or as of now Zelda Musou, or W101, or many games that I like, thanks man but I'm happy having two consoles, a handheld and a pc
After all its not like I'm POOR
How is it not relevant? It points Reggie as a two-faced liar. Am I right or not?
>Sony fired a shitload of people these past few years. Nobody gives a fuck.
Except for the thousands of "SONY IS DYING" threads and "KAZ SHOULD BE PUT ON TRIAL FOR BEING SATAN!" topics. But whatever, you guys aren't hypocrites, right? :^)
Wait, you mean all the enemies of Nintendo aren't jobless losers and that /v/ is a cluster of extreme biases and fanboyism? B-b-but Nintendo! It's hilarious that there's actually someone here believing that in order for people to not like what Nintendo dd means they must not have a worked a day in their lives. Geez, the level of retardation and anger that is required to say shit like that.
Shitposting is shitposting. This is a common corporate practice and an adult man who worked for Nintendo for 9 years should know. When you graduate and get a position in which you'll be representing the people that employ you'll realize that reality isn't 4chan and you have to be very careful with what you put on your Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc.
>Oddly enough, you only see Nintendogs use logic
Yeah, they're as good as what the PS4 and Xbox can offer. Wonderful 101? On par with Knack. Mario 3d World? On par with Ryse or Killzone or Infamous.
And I don't like those consoles, so why would I support the Wii-U?
>Wonderful 101? On par with Knack. Mario 3d World? On par with Ryse or Killzone or Infamous.
>enemies of Nintendo
>If you didnt buy a ShitU or agree on Regionlock you are TEH ENEMIES OF NINTENDOS
>Despite having a SNES, N64 and Wii standing around in my cellar
Thats fucking it. The Nintendofanbase is fucking cancer.